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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD

[ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road September 16, 2021 6:30 P.M.]

EVENING, EVERYONE.

IT IS 6:30 PM.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THE MEETING STARTED.

ROLL CALL HERE.

BRIAN DADDY HERE.

ALEXANDER BLACK HERE.

CHRISTOPHER HALL HERE.

BLAKE HERSTEIN HERE.

GLENN POTTENGER SIDNEY SMITH, DENNIS SNYDER.

MATT TEAGUE, RON IFR HERE.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S AGENDA ITEM, OPENING REMARKS BY THE CHAIR.

SO GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE AGAIN.

UH, SO WE HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD AGENDA TODAY, SO WE JUST HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

UH, SO ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT DON'T DEAL WITH ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA TODAY? NO.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

OLD BUSINESS PET PARADE.

SO RIGHT NOW I AM TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH AND THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF GREATER DAYTON.

UM, I MADE TWO FLYERS FOR THE PET PARADE THAT I'LL BE SENDING TO Y'ALL THROUGH EMAIL, UM, TO CHOOSE BETWEEN, UM, AND I'VE ALSO, UH, LOOKED INTO PARTY CITY FOR POSSIBLE DECORATIONS AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

OH, AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR JUDGES IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR SYDNEY TO MY LEFT AND SOMEWHERE? RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, SO YOU JUST NEED HELP WITH, UM, JUDGES? YES.

OKAY.

DO YOU NEED ANYONE ELSE TO HELP YOU PUT THIS, UM, ANYONE ELSE TO HELP YOU AT ALL? I KNOW I STILL OWE YOU THAT NAME FOR THE OTHER PERSON AND I WILL INTRODUCE YOU TO THEM TODAY BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE RIGHT NOW.

SO ALL RIGHT, PRODUCER.

OKAY.

WHAT NAME DID WE? UM, IT WAS FOR OCTOBER 29TH.

THAT'S A FRIDAY.

OKAY.

WHAT TIME ARE WE LOOKING AT? FIVE O'CLOCK OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, SO I THINK WE HAD GLENN AND WE HAVE, UH, CHRIS THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ON JUDGE.

UM, SO, UM, JUST REACH OUT TO THEM TONIGHT OR TOMORROW.

JUST DIFFERENT FROM YOUR SCHEDULES.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM HERE.

THE DOWNPIPE DONALD PARK TOWN HALL.

UH, SO, UM, SO TODAY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY OFF OF, UH, THE CORNER OF DIAL AND LONGFORD.

UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TODAY WHO, UH, LIKELY PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK AND THEIR IDEAS.

UM, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE, UH, JOSH OPENED UP JUST TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR, UM, WITH THE SURVEYS AND, AND WHAT SOME OF THE IDEAS ARE WITH THE PARK.

UM, AND THEN, UM, FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TODAY, YOU'RE IN RECEIVE MODE, UH, WE'RE HERE TO COLLECT IDEAS AND THEN ONCE THE SURVEY IS COMPLETE, SEE WHAT THE FINAL RESULTS AS WELL.

SO, UH, BUT IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, UM, FEEL FREE TO MAKE COMMENTS, UH, BUT THERE WILL BE NO DECISIONS MADE TODAY IN REGARDS TO THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY.

WE'LL START OFF WITH, UH, JOSH.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO, UH, VINCE AND I, AND SARAH AS WELL, UH, SPENT A MAJORITY OF LAST WEEK AND, OR WAS THAT THIS WEEK, THIS WEEK, AND ONE DAY LAST WEEK, PASSING OUT THE POSTCARDS FOR THE SURVEY.

UH, WE PASSED OUT A THOUSAND OF THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THERE.

I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE THREE STREETS WE RAN OUT OF TIME TO GET TO.

AND THAT WAS THE THREE, RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF TAYLORSVILLE, KIRK VIEW BLUFF VIEW.

I THINK THAT WAS THE THREE THAT WERE LEFT THAT WE JUST RAN OUT OF TIME.

UM, THE SURVEY CARD DOES SAY THE 16TH, BUT, UH, WE PUSHED THAT TO THE 23RD BECAUSE IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET THE SURVEY CARDS TO US AFTER WE CREATED THAT.

SO, UM, IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE IT YET, PLEASE DO.

UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ON YOUR PHONE, I DO HAVE PAPER COPIES,

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UM, AND WE'VE HAD SOME PAPER COPIES TURNED IN TONIGHT AND I HAVE SOME IN SARAH'S BOX AS WELL ALREADY.

THOSE WILL GET MANUALLY INPUTTED.

UM, ONCE THE SURVEY CLOSES, UM, THE COMPANY WILL COLLECT ALL THE DATA FOR US AND DIVIDED INTO VARIOUS MEANS AND, YOU KNOW, BY STREET AND ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY DIVVY IT UP SO WE CAN TAKE THE DATA AND, UM, AND GET RESULTS FROM IT AND SEE KIND OF WHAT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE, HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE SURVEY UP ON THE BOARD, UP ON THE DIOCESE HERE? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SURVEY? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, UM, I GUESS AT THIS TIME, THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

SO WE DON'T PUT IT UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS, UM, REFERENCING THE DONALD PARK.

ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? THERE ARE, THERE IS A PAPER ON THING.

PLEASE SIGN YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, CONTACT INFO.

WHEN YOU STEP UP, PLEASE.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

ARE YOU WANTING LIKE PHONE NUMBER OR EMAIL OR WHATEVER WE'RE WILLING.

OKAY.

HI EVERYONE.

I'M JENNIFER BEARD.

UH, I AM DIRECTLY, UH, ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE DIAL PARK PROPERTY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, SOMEONE'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

UH, I'M GLAD THAT THE PUMP TRACK AND ALL THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE ANYMORE.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S THE, I, I THINK THE INTENT IS THE, THE TRAILS IN THE, UM, TREELINE AREA AND EVERYTHING AT ALL.

UH, I'M LESS AFFECTED BY THAT BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE HIDDEN BY THE TREES.

I THINK THAT THERE THERE'S ALREADY TRAILS THERE.

IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO CLEAN THEM UP, MAKE THEM MAYBE MORE POLICED IN TERMS OF THE PEOPLE ARE USING THEM.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

UM, THE OPEN GREEN SPACE I THINK IS STILL POTENTIALLY UP FOR DEBATE ON WHAT COULD GO THERE.

UM, KNOWING THAT AS MUCH AS I WOULDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO GO THERE, I WOULD RATHER HAVE A VOICE.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS DID THE SURVEY AND LET US AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO PUT THE SURVEY OR PUT OUR VOICES ON THE SURVEY.

I'M STILL CONCERNED WITH THE PARKING, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO COME AROUND SANITATION.

UM, AT ONE POINT IN TIME, IT WAS LIKE, HEY, LET'S HAVE A CORRAL OF PAR JOHN'S HANGING OUT.

NOPE, NOT COOL.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO SANITATION IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

UM, I'VE COME AROUND TO THE IDEA THAT IF THERE'S LIKE A WALKING PATH, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD BE ON BOARD WITH.

UM, CAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A LESS, UH, BREAKING MY VIEW FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PHRASE IT.

I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE WITH THE INTENT THAT THERE IS NO REAR NEIGHBORS.

IT'S QUIET.

I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE LIKE ALL THE KIDS RUNNING AROUND.

THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT IT.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA THAT THERE COULD BE KIDS THAT WOULD WANT TO USE THAT SPACE IN A WAY.

UM, SO I'M OKAY WITH HAVING LIKE A WALKING PATH, BUT STILL DON'T WANT A PARKING LOT HANGING OUT RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO I'M OPEN TO HEARING, YOU KNOW, IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS AND SEEING WHAT OPPORTUNITIES COULD BE THERE, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED 24 7 BY WHAT'S PUT IN SPACE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? I'M SHEILA DUNCAN AND I LIVE RIGHT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE WOODS.

SO I HAVE ALL THE WOODS TRAFFIC AND, UM, I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT.

AND I REALLY, I DIDN'T REALLY, UM, S IT DIDN'T REALLY TELL SO MUCH ON THE SURVEY.

I DIDN'T THINK, I GUESS THE MALL T UM, USE NATURAL SERVICE TRAILS THAT THREW ME OFF BECAUSE WHEN YOU GUYS PROPOSED ALL THIS, IT WAS GOING TO BE THE MOUNTAIN BIKES, OH, IS MULTI-SURFACE NAP OR MULTIUSE NATURAL SERVICE.

AND THAT'S ALWAYS WHAT THE TRAILS BEEN PLANNED FOR ME, FUCKING GOT LATCHED ON TO, AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE RAN WITH

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IT, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MULTI-USE BECAUSE WHEN YOU BROUGHT IN THE BIKE PEOPLE, I MEAN, THEY WERE REALLY PUSHING IT TO, UM, TIE INTO SANDO VIEW AND WILD VIEW.

THOSE ARE DEAD END STREETS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LIVED HERE ALL THESE YEARS, 38, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING ALL THIS TRAFFIC BEHIND HER HOUSES.

WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSES, WE WERE TOLD NOTHING WAS GOING TO BE PUT IN THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST GOING TO BE NATURAL.

AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THIS, SO I'M NOT A FAN OF IT AT ALL.

AND I REALLY, I FELT THAT IT WAS KIND OF MISLEADING BECAUSE THE MULTI-SURFACE NOTHING WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE MOUNTAIN BIKES.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS PROMOTED THE VERY FIRST NIGHT.

I MEAN, WE WERE JUST, YOU KNOW, THROWN WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE, TALKING ABOUT THE MOUNTAIN BIKES.

SO I THINK THAT WAS VERY MISLEADING.

SO THIS IS HOW I FEEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT BEHIND ME AND I JUST DON'T WANT IT.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, THERE WE GO.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE? I DON'T, I DON'T WANT IT.

I SEE ALL THE DEER UP THERE.

I SEE THE BABIES, THEY COME IN MY BACKYARD, SO I KNOW THIS CAN BE EFFECTED WHEN THEY SAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE DEER.

IT DOES.

CAUSE WE KNOW IF WE HEAR ANYBODY BACK THERE, WE DON'T SEE THE DEER UNTIL THEY LEAVE AND THEN THEY COME OUT.

SO IT DOES AFFECT THE WILDLIFE.

SO, NO, I'M NOT A FAN OF ANY OF IT.

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HI, MY NAME'S BECKY.

I LIVED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE GREEN SPACE AND I'M NOT FOR IT ALL.

UM, AT FIRST I THOUGHT, WELL, SOMETHING NICE FOR THE KIDS.

MAYBE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO, UH, THIS IS A QUIET ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERYBODY THAT LIVES JUST ABOUT IN THIS AREA HAS LIVED THERE A LONG TIME, MYSELF, ALMOST 40 YEARS.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO REASON.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WANT A PARK AND MORGAN ONE THAT THERE'S NOTHING FOR THE KIDS TO DO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S OTHER AREAS, THE WILDLIFE THAT'S BACK THERE WILL BE EFFECTED.

YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT IT WON'T THE GREEN SPACE, THE PARKING LOT.

I DON'T THINK ANYTHING SHOULD BE MESSED WITH.

I THINK YOU SHOULD FIND A DIFFERENT AREA.

IT'S JUST MY OPINION.

AND I KNOW TOO, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.

THERE'S A BIG PICTURE OF THE MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL GOING ALL THE WAY TO RIP RAP, AND THEN ON AND ON, IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO A LOT MORE TRAFFIC IN OUR AREA.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S AN ESTABLISHED AREA.

WE DON'T NEED IT IN THIS AREA.

THERE'S PLACES IN OTHER THINGS FOR KIDS TO DO.

I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT ACTIVITIES FOR KIDS.

I DO.

I JUST THINK YOU'VE PICKED THE WRONG PLACE.

THAT'S I GUESS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

WHAT ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS, SIR? I AM BRAD SMITH.

UM, I GUESS I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS PROCEDURALLY.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UH, ON THE COUNCIL THAT THIS LAND WAS LEFT TO, I GUESS, FIRST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEN TO THE CITY, BY THE HUBEROUS STATE WITH THE PROVISION, THAT'D BE USED FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS IF THE CITY HAS THIS LAND AND DOESN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT, WHAT'S THE POINT OF KEEPING THE LAND.

AND THEN IF THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, LIKE A PARK, DOES IT REVERT BACK TO THE HUBEROUS STATE? DO YOU GIVE IT BACK TO THE SCHOOLS? YOU KNOW, I, THERE ARE SOME LONG-TERM THINGS THAT AREN'T BEING MADE CLEAR.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT TO BE MADE A PARK, THEN WHAT, SO THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

AND WE WILL GET THAT ANSWER AND GET BACK WITH, YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T REALLY NEED TO KNOW, BUT

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I MEAN, NOBODY'S ADDRESSED THAT, CORRECT.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO, AND PERHAPS THE CITY JUST HANGS ONTO IT AND JUST LETS IT DO ITS THING FOR HOWEVER LONG, BUT IF THE C'S NOT GONNA USE IT AND THE SCHOOL'S NOT GOING TO USE IT AND THERE'S A DEED RESTRICTION, THEN, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT GOES BACK TO THE HUBER ESTATE AND THEN THEY COULD SELL IT THROUGH WHOMEVER THEY PLEASE.

SO THANKS JOSH.

DO YOU HAVE ANY BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THAT? ALL I KNOW IS THAT WHEN, UH, WAS IT FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO WHEN THE SCHOOLS BUILT ALL THE NEW SCHOOLS, UH, WE SWAPPED THAT LAND FOR THE CHARLES HUBER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LAND BY THE WATER TOWER.

UM, SO THAT'S WHEN IT BECAME THE CITY'S LAND AT THAT POINT.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO ADD TO THE QUESTION TO THAT IS, DOES ALL LAND HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED? WHY CAN'T WE LEAVE LAND ALONE? WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A NATURAL HABITAT? OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO.

ANYONE ON THE DIET HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OH, YES.

SORRY.

SO MY PICKING HIM OFF, UM, UH, BRAD, BUT I GUESS FROM HERE, I GUESS LETTING EVERYONE KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEPS? WHAT'S THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS ON FROM HERE? I KNOW WE HAVEN'T TOLD HER WHAT THE 23RD IS WHAT YOU SAID.

UM, KIND OF TALKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE PARKS AND RECS NEXT STEPS, JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

OKAY.

SO ONCE THE DATA IS COLLECTED AND GIVEN TO ME, IT WILL BE SENT TO THE BOARD AS WELL.

WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH AND SEE WHAT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF THOSE WHO TOOK THE SURVEY IS, AND THAT'LL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE WILL PUT TOGETHER A PLAN OF WHAT, IF ANYTHING WILL BE DONE.

OKAY.

SO JOSH, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

UM, CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE FILLED OUT THIS SURVEY TO NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.

WE SEND AN EMAIL TO THE COMPANY TO ASK.

WE DO KNOW AS OF WEDNESDAY, THE QR CODE HAD BEEN SCANNED OVER A HUNDRED TIMES, BUT AS FAR AS, UM, PHYSICALLY TAKING THE SURVEY, I HAVE, LET'S SEE HERE, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 PAPER SURVEYS.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, SIX PEOPLE HAD TAKEN THE SURVEY.

OKAY.

SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE PRESENT, IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COMPLETE IT.

WE HAVE IT HARD COPY.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE QR CODE HERE AS WELL.

AND THOSE ONLINE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ALSO, UM, COMPLETE THE SURVEY AS WELL, ESPECIALLY IF YOU LIVE IN, UM, WARD ONE AREA, ONE OF THE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT I WANT TO SEE IS, UM, WHAT SPECIFICALLY DOES THE FOLKS IN THAT AREA WENT TO SEE OR NOT WANT TO SEE? SO, UM, I THINK THAT INPUT IS, UM, IS IMPORTANT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SEE FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, UM, BECAUSE IT CURRENTLY IS CITY PROPERTY.

UM, WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC WANT TO SEE IN THAT SPACE AS WELL? SO WE'LL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT IDEAS, TWO DIFFERENT LOOKS THAT THEY WILL HAVE A NICE DISCUSSION ON THAT AS WELL.

SO, UH, SO I KNOW I SAW SOME HANDS UP HERE ON THE DIET.

SO I'LL START WITH GLEN, UH, MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE'S ON TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT DEER THIS MORNING.

WHEN I WENT TO WORK, I WORK ON AN 18 HOLE GOLF COURSE.

I WAS GREETED BY 10 DEER.

THOSE DEER HAVE BEEN ON THAT GOLF COURSE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

WE'VE SEEN THEM GROW AND DEVELOP THIS FAMILY.

DEAR DON'T LIKE WOODS DEER, LIKE OPEN PASTURE AREAS.

THE WOODED AREAS IS WHERE THEY BED DOWN.

THEY HIDE AND THEY PROTECT, BUT THEY'VE STILL GOT TO HAVE OPEN AREA OVER AT DIAL PARK.

WE DO HAVE THAT.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T, I GOT MIXED FEELINGS ON THE BIKE PATHS.

LIKE SOME OF YOU DO.

UM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT LAND BECOME HOUSES.

IF SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD, SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, THAT LAND'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR 15 YEARS.

WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE LAND.

SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK, LET ME FINISH.

I THINK WE HAVE A CHANCE HERE TO GUIDE HOW WE DEVELOP THAT LAND.

IF WE WANT TO LEAVE IT UP, OPEN NATURAL

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AREAS, WE CAN DO THAT.

IF WE WANT TO PUT SOME PATHS IN FOR HIKING, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT LET'S NOT, NOT LOSE CONTROL.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TRY AND SAY.

OKAY, OKAY.

WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS, I'VE SEEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE GRASSY AREA.

THERE'S A CLOVER AND EVERYTHING OUT THERE.

THEY COME OUT THERE IN THE MORNINGS AND THEY COME OUT IN THE DUST AND I'VE SEEN AS MANY OF NINE, 10 YEARS AT A TIME OUT THERE GRAZING.

THEY GRAZE IN THAT AREA.

THEY, DURING THE DAY THEY HIDE IN THE WOODS AND THEY COME OUT AND THEY GRAZE IN THAT AREA AT NIGHT, IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME AS A, IF WE HAD TO HAVE A PARK IN THAT AREA IN DEDICATED AS A PARK TO SAVE THE LAND FROM BEING DEVELOPED, I COULD LIVE WITH THAT TO SAY IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY A TRAILS, A NATURE PARK FOR TRAILS, FOR WALKING OR A PICNIC AREA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST SO THAT THE LAND ISN'T TAKEN FROM THEM TAKEN FROM NATURE AS MY CONCERN, WELL, I'VE WORKED WITH PARKS AND THAT FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS NOW.

AND IT'S THE CUTEST THING THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR WITH A DEER WAS THEIR MOTHER DEER AND TWO FONTS.

AND I'M MOWING GREENS.

AND THESE DEER TWO BABIES ARE CHASING ME AROUND ON THE MOWER.

HAVING A BALL DEER WILL DEVELOP WELL, THERE'S BEEN A MOTHER DEER OVER THERE ALL SUMMER WITH HER BABY AND THEY WERE RUNNING AROUND FRIDAY AND THE BABY WAS ROMPING AND PLAYING IN THAT GREENLAND IN THAT AREA.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING TO SEE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUBURBS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT JUST REALLY BOTHERS ME TO KNOW THAT THAT LAND WILL BE DEVELOPED AND POSITIVE.

THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO GO.

THEY'RE TRAPPED IN HUBER, THEY'VE GOT 70, 75 AND THEN DOWNTOWN HUBER OR DOWNTOWN DAYTON.

THAT'S WHAT'S AROUND THEM.

THERE'S NO PLACE ELSE FOR THEM TO GO IN THIS AREA.

IT'S JUST MAKES SENSE FOR IT TO LEAVE IT AS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN BE HAD.

OKAY.

SO MA'AM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T WANT ANYTHING THERE, NOT EVEN A PLAYGROUND, A SHELTER, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A PLAYGROUND, A NATURE SKATE PLAYGROUND.

I MEAN A PLAYGROUND I CAN GO WITH THAT.

OR LIKE I SAID, OR LIKE WALKING TRAILS, JUST NOT SOMETHING AGGRESSIVE OR EVASIVE TO THE AREA.

OKAY.

UM, I'M NOT A FAN OF COURSE, OF A PARKING POINT, YOU KNOW, PARKING AREA.

BUT IF THERE WAS SOME WAY WE WERE AT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THEY SAID THAT THEY COULD SET IT BACK OFF OF THE ROAD, CAUSE IT'S A DANGER PULLING OUT THERE ON THAT HILL.

ALSO THERE'S A BLIND SPOT.

AND SO THEY TALKED ABOUT MOVING IT TO A DIFFERENT AREA, CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S MY OTHER THING ABOUT A PARKING AREA, YOU KNOW? UM, BUT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IN THIS AREA, THAT'S WHY THEY BOUGHT THESE HOMES FOR THE, THEY DON'T HAVE NEIGHBORS BEHIND THEM OR WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE AND IT'S PRETTY PEACEFUL.

AND I THINK MOST OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

OKAY.

SO FOR THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY, YOU WOULD BE OPEN FOR, LET'S SAY A SHELTER OF WALKING PATH, WHICH IS JUST A WALKING PATH AROUND WITH THE NATURE WALKING TRAILS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOR THE KIDS IN THE AREA THAT FAMILIES COULD DO AND TAKE THEIR KIDS BACK IN THERE.

I JUST THINK THE BIKING THING IS TOO MUCH TRAFFIC TOO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU'RE NOT FOR THE, YOU'RE NOT FOR THE MULTI-USE TRAILS.

OKAY.

BUT THE PLAYGROUND, THE SHELTER, 1, 2, 3 BARS, THREE PLAYGROUND, THE SHELTER AND A WALKING PATH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE IN THAT THE BENCHES PEOPLE COULD SIT DOWN ON TAKING WALKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

MORE OF LIKE JUST A NATURE PARK.

OKAY.

AND INSTEAD OF BEING SO AGGRESSIVE WITH THE AREA.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS TO GET YOU ALL AS IDEAS, ESPECIALLY THOSE IDEAS THAT YOU, THAT ARE ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU.

UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE FOR A PLAYGROUND WALKING PATH.

UM, AND I'M BEING VERY SPECIFIC WITH MY WORD, SORRY, BUT PLAYGROUND WALKING PATH BENCHES AND A SHELTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMETHING THAT'S NATURAL.

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WE'RE LIKE WHAT WE ALWAYS KNEW AS A PARK THAT FAMILIES COULD GO TO AND ENJOY NATURE OR WHATEVER, NOT DOES BIKE PARK OR WHATEVER, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAD ALL THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT IN THERE IN THE GREEN AREA.

IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH.

AND IT'S NOT FITTING, I DON'T FEEL FOR THIS AREA.

THAT'S ONE REASON WHY I THINK THERE'S SO MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T ACCEPT IT.

IT WAS JUST TOO AGGRESSIVE.

OKAY.

SO REAL QUICK, JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE INFORMATION GETS SKEWED, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO DEVELOP AS FAR AS HOUSING AND STUFF BACK THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE LAND.

SO LET'S, LET'S PUT THAT ASIDE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT IN ANYBODY'S RADAR RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO LET'S, BEFORE THAT GETS CONFUSED AND, AND MISTRUTHS MISCONSTRUED.

UM, AND THEN ALSO AGAIN, WITH THE, ANY AMENITIES THAT WE PUT IN THERE, EVEN IF IT'S A PLAYGROUND SHELTER HOUSE, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE PARKING.

SO UNDERSTAND THAT ANYTHING THAT GOES IN THERE, PARKING GOES WITH IT.

WOW.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMPROMISE.

I GUESS I THINK THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO COMPROMISE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA AND, AND GIVE THEM MORE OF WHAT THEY WANT.

AND I GUESS MAYBE THE COMPROMISE MIGHT HAVE TO BE, CAUSE I KNOW IF YOU MAKE IT A PARK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY WITH A PARKING LOT.

SO I'M THINKING, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A COMPROMISE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA TO HAVE TO HAVE A PARKING LOT? ONCE AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC IT'S I JUST THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA, BUT I MEAN, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT IF THE HANDICAP AND EVERYTHING ELSE, ONCE IT'S OFFICIALLY APART, I GET IT.

I'D GIVE A GUESS.

I'M SAYING DO NOTHING.

OR MAYBE A COMPROMISE WOULD BE LOW GRADE, NOT THE BIG BITE THING, THE BIG BIKE THINGS GOING.

THAT'S ALL, NOT THE MOUNTAIN BIKE.

WELL, THAT'S JUST THE MULTI-TRACK THE TRAILS IN THE WOODS ARE FOR HIKING OR FOR WALKING.

THEY CAN, IF SOMEONE WANTS A MOUNTAIN BIKE ON THEM, I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE NOW, I MEAN, WE, AND YOU HAD THIS MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS WERE STILL AN OPTION BACK IN THERE.

THE MULTI-USE YES.

THEY'RE FROM THEY'RE MULTI-USE AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD STILL BE ON THE LIST.

OKAY.

I THINK, UH, UH, WALKING TRAILS, HIKING, WALKING, BECAUSE EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE FURTHER DOWN TOWARDS RUSTIC WOODS AND STUFF, THEY DON'T WANT ALL THAT AREA BACK IN THERE.

I MEAN, IT'S PEACEFUL THE WAY THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW.

I CAN SEE PEOPLE, LIKE I SAID, I WANT THE BIKES THINGS MAYBE OFF OF THE LIST AND JUST DO LIKE A WALKING TRAILS OR SOMETHING.

WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN PUT WALKING TRAILS IN, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA RIDE BIKES ON THEM.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING.

WELL, WHO'S GOING TO SUPERVISE THAT LEAVES IT UP TO THE NEIGHBORS, TO ALSO IN THE AREA TO BE THE SUPERVISOR FOR THE PARKS.

IF ANYTHING GOES ON OVER THERE OR SOMETHING HAPPENS, GUESS WHO HAS TO CALL 9 1 1 IF THERE'S FIGHTS OR WHATEVER MIGHT HAPPEN, WHICH HAPPEN IN PARKS? WELL, THAT'S HOW ALL OF OUR PARKS ARE NOW.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SURVEYING OUR PARKS.

I MEAN, I, WHEN I GET, WHEN I GET A SITUATION, I GET A PHONE CALL.

I GO, BUT I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY NOW PATROL IN THE PARK.

SO THEY'RE ALL THAT WAY.

WELL, OTHER THAN HAVING TO CALL POLICE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY, VERY SELDOM THE WAY THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW.

YUP.

SHELTER.

WHAT IS EVERYONE'S DEFINITION OF A SHELTER? SO WHEN I THINK OF A SHELTER, I'M THINKING OF SOMETHING.

UM, WHAT PARKS HAVE YOU BEEN TO HERE? HONESTLY, IN HUBER HEIGHTS? NOT MANY.

I CAME FROM, I LIVED IN FAIRBORN.

OKAY.

SO I'M THINKING OF, AND YEAH, JUST A CONCRETE PAD, UM, PICNIC TABLES AND A ROOF FOR POSTS, SHELTER.

YOU DRIVE TO THE BACK RIGHT BACK THAT WAY.

MOST OF OUR SHELTERS THAT OUR HEARTS LOOK LIKE, THE ONE BACK THERE IT'S BEEN RECTANGLE, CONCRETE PAD, METAL ROOF, AND BIG SOMEPLACE.

THEIR FAMILIES CAN COME HAVE A PICNIC, HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY.

I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE DONE, BUT HONESTLY IT, IT, UM, I'VE SEEN THAT I'VE SEEN PARTIES HAPPEN, UM, AT MOST OF THE PARKS.

UM, AND IT'S NOT

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AS BAD AS YOU THINK.

IT'S NOT ELECTRIC.

WOULDN'T BOUNCE HOUSES UP HERE OVER THERE, NOT ELECTRIC KIND OF STUFF.

USUALLY IT'S USUALLY, IT'S JUST, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER THE DECORATION.

WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR THING.

WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP.

ARE YOU GOING TO THEN HAVE IT WHERE THERE'S LIKE A GRILL THAT'S OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE CAN USE? I MEAN, LIKE, CAUSE NOW THAT'S ADDING MORE.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY THING.

I DON'T NECESSARILY, IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE THOSE THAT ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED MORE PEACEFUL.

YES.

HAVING THAT, WHERE THEY CAN KIND OF GO PLAY.

BUT IT'S NOT THAT CONGREGATION OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVING THAT SHELTER WHERE THEY COULD THEN RENT IT OUT FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY.

NOW YOU'RE BRINGING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

SO I GET THE IDEA OR WHY PEOPLE MIGHT WANT THE SHELTER.

ME PERSONALLY, NOT AS BIG OF A FAN, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, I'M FINE.

IF THERE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, BENCHES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.

CAUSE IF WE HAVE A WALKING PATH IN THE GREENSPACE, THEN I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE A COUPLE OF BENCHES JUST FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO SIT DOWN.

BUT THE SHELTER PIECE FOR ME IS SOMETHING I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ON BOARD WITH.

WHAT'D YOU BE OPEN TO A GREEN SPACE WITH A SUNSHADE SHADE, SHADE SALE.

NOT SURE IF I SEEN THAT.

SO IT WOULD STILL BE GRASS AT THE BOTTOM WITH THE BENCH UNDERNEATH IT.

AND IT WOULD PROVIDE A SHADE STRUCTURE THAT WE COULD REMOVE IN THE WINTER THAT I COULD PROBABLY BE ON BOARD WITH BECAUSE IT'S LESS LIKELY INVITING A BIG GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS AND IT'S MORE NATURAL.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'M JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS BY THE WAY.

NO, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S DEFINITION OF SHELTER WAS SIMILAR.

CAUSE I'M THINKING AT COMMUNITY PARK, EAST AND FAIRBORN, THEY HAVE THE BIG SHELTERS THAT THE CONCRETE PADS WHERE THERE'S, UM, ONE ON ONE HAS LIKE WHERE YOU COULD DO A FIRE, UM, WITH LIKE AN, A FIREPLACE, IF THAT ONE'S STILL THERE, YOU KNOW? AND THEN THEY HAVE LIKE THE GIRLS EVERYWHERE ON ALL THEIR PAVILIONS.

AND SO JUST MAKING SURE I WAS ON THE SAME PAGE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

YES.

MA'AM UM, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M NOT SEEING ANY KIDS, I DON'T SEE THE KIDS SERIOUSLY.

YOU WOULD SEE THEM ON THE SIDEWALKS AND STUFF.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO I CAN COMMENT ON THAT REAL FAST.

UM, WELL I LIVE, WE BACK ALL UP AROUND THERE.

THEY'RE ALL RETIRED.

THE ONES ON THE BACK IN THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WOODS BEHIND WE'RE RETIRED.

RIGHT? SO IT'S LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, BRINGING THE KIDS, IT'S LIKE, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

OKAY.

SO, UM, SO ON THAT STREET, YOU NOT HAVE KIDS, BUT WHEN I WALKED, UM, THE 500 HOUSES OR HOW MANY HOUSES THAT I DID WALK AND DROP OFF, I ENCOUNTERED SEVERAL YOUTH.

UM, AND THEIR PARENTS, THE, WHEN I SAY YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M THINKING, I'M NOT JUST THINKING DIAL IN LONGFORD.

I'M ALSO THINKING OF PINE VIEW, PINE VIEW, UM, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER AREAS AS WELL AND ANGELINA.

SO WHEN I SAY THAT AREA, THAT'S AN ESSAY COMMUNITY.

THAT'S AN I'M LOOKING AT, I'M NOT JUST LOOKING AT, UM, LONG VERDUN DIAL AND THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOMES BACKING UP TO OTHER HOMES.

WE DIDN'T BUY IT.

WE BOUGHT THE WOODS.

WE BOUGHT THE WOODS IS WHAT MAKES OUR HOMES.

AND ON THE SURVEY I NOTICED WE DIDN'T PUT OUR HOUSE NUMBERS.

WHY WAS THAT? WHY WAS THE HOUSE NUMBERS NOT ADDED? I ASKED FOR THE HOUSE NUMBERS, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO FILL OUT A SURVEY WITH THAT SPECIFIC OF INFORMATION BECAUSE THEN IT'S PUBLIC RECORD.

AND SO THE SURVEY COMPANY SAID DO NOT PUT SPECIFIC HOUSE NUMBERS BECAUSE WITH A STREET YOU CAN STILL TELL OTHER THAN LONGFORD AND TAYLORSVILLE, YOU CAN TELL IF THEY'RE IN THE AREA OR NOT.

BUT WITH SPECIFIC HOUSE NUMBERS, THEY SAID, SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT KEEN TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC RECORD.

THEY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO YOU GUYS REALLY WON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT SURROUNDING THE WOODS REALLY WANT.

THEN YOU COULD HAVE JOE OVER IN VANDALIA, FILL IT OUT.

YOU GUYS ARE NEVER GOING TO KNOW.

CAUSE THEY CAN USE JUST THE STREETS.

THE HOUSE NUMBER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.

DOES ASK FOR A STREET.

I JUST FILLED IT OUT.

YEAH.

IT ASKS FOR A STRIPE, BUT ANYBODY CAN DO THAT.

WELL THAT'S ANYBODY CAN DO THAT.

AND WHY CAN'T IT JUST STAY LIKE A GREEN SPACE? WHY DO WE HAVE TO DEVELOP IT? SO WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED? JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

SO I JUST SAY, OKAY, THINK I DID I SEE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE DIET? YES.

BRIAN, IT'S NOT

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REALLY MUCH OF A QUESTIONS.

MIGHT BE A LITTLE LONG-WINDED BUT I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS FIRST ACQUIRING THAT LAND.

I FIRST ENVISIONED SOMETHING LIKE CHARLESTON FALLS, YOU KNOW, HAVE WALKING PATHS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THEN YES, I WAS THINKING LIKE IS EBOLA OR SHELTER, YOU KNOW? BUT THEN I WAS ALSO THINKING, YOU KNOW, PLAYGROUND.

I KNOW THERE'S THERE'S PEOPLE COME TO HAS COME BEFORE WHEN HE, YOU KNOW, BASKETBALL COURTS, STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT I WAS, MY MAIN FOCUS WAS WITH CHARLESTON FALL TYPE THING WITH THE GAZEBO SHELTER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

JOSH BROUGHT UP WITH THE BOMBA, THE MOUNTAIN BIKE STUFF, AND THAT YOU HAD, UH, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT WAS WILLING TO VOLUNTEER AND LAY DOWN THE PAST, UPKEEP THE PAST AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT USING CITY TAXPAYER MONEY.

I'LL KEEP THAT.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA.

WASN'T SO MUCH KEEN ON THE WHOLE LITTLE BIKE THING AND PUMP TRACK AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT THE MOUNTAIN BIKE, THE WALKING TRAILS, THE MULTI-USE I WAS KEEN WITH, UH, I ALSO KNOW THAT IT WAS NOT EIGHT, NINE YEARS AGO THAT THE CITY ACQUIRED IT.

IT WAS THE SCHOOLS, NOT, NOT TOO LONG AGO.

UM, I'M ALSO LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, IF THE CITY DOESN'T DO SOMETHING WITH IT, DOES IT DOESN'T REVERT BACK TO THE SCHOOLS.

IF THE SCHOOL IS REALLY NEEDED BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE FUTURE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS HARVEST STIMULUS AND THE SOFT THING AND THIS AND THAT SOFT STIMULUS IS SAYING MANDATORY PRESCHOOLS THROUGH SCHOOL SYSTEM.

I KNOW WE GOT STUDEBAKER, BUT THAT PLACE IS CROWDED RIGHT NOW.

THE CITY IS GETTING READY TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS GETTING READY TO BUILD ON TO ALL THE SCHOOLS, RUSHMORE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUILDING ON THE RUSHMORE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING ON THE WANE.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING, BUT WHEN YOU ADDED A PRESCHOOL WHERE THOSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE MIXED IN WITH, YOU KNOW, UP TO SIXTH GRADERS.

SO THE REVERT BACK TO THE SCHOOL, I'M NOT SAYING THE WILL, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THAT POSSIBILITY.

UM, BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC USE.

I KNOW THAT WE LOOK AT PUBLIC WORKS, PROBABLY NEEDS A NEW, THE NEW PLACE FOR A SHELTER OR STORE STUFF.

NOT SAYING THAT'S WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO, BUT THAT'S A PUBLIC USE.

I MEAN, I GOT SO MANY IDEAS AND TANGENTS.

SO LIKE I KNOW ONE OF THE PARTS MASTER PLAN WAS HAPPENING.

I HAD A COUNCIL PERSON AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS SAYING THAT HUBER, MR. HUBER SAID A PARK IN EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.

AND I LIVE OVER THERE BY CLASSIC PIZZA.

AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IS HERE AND I POINTED OUT THERE'S OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DOES NOT HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.

AND ONE OF MY MAIN EXAMPLES WAS WHERE YOU GUYS LIVE AT RIGHT NOW.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE IS PEOPLE THAT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, I KNOW THAT LIVE ON ANGELINA THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA WITH KIDS THAT DO NOT HAVE A PARK ANYWHERE NEAR THEM.

AND NOT ONE THAT CAN WRITE A REALLY SAFELY RIDE, A BIKE TO, I MEAN, OR YOU KNOW, PARENTS, YOU KNOW, A MOM WALKING OR A DAD WALKING THEIR KIDS TO A NEARBY PARK THAT MAYBE WANT TO GO JUST A MILE DOWN THE ROAD.

THEY DON'T HAVE THAT THERE.

I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SO MANY IFS.

AND I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE, THEY WAS TOLD THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THERE, EAT, THEY THERE, THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU THE TRUTH.

AND YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

THAT WAS SCHOOL PROPERTY, NOT TOO LONG AGO.

AND THERE COULD HAVE BEEN THE SCHOOL BUILT THERE.

SO, I MEAN, YOU ALWAYS GOTTA DO YOUR RESEARCH THAT'S FOR ANYBODY LISTENING, WATCHING.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING SOMEWHERE, THERE'S HOPING LAND, SOMETHING'S GOING TO GO THERE.

LET'S DO IT QUICK, QUICK IF IT'S A SCHOOL AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BUSES GOING IN, YOU KNOW, FIVE DAYS A WEEK, PROBABLY SOME KIND OF SPORTS ACTIVITY ON THE WEEKEND.

UH, IF THERE'S A FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL FIELD, THAT'S INCLUDED WITH THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE LESSER OF THE EVILS, UM, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE POOR WORDS TO USE, BUT IS IT, AND IT MAY NOT HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIME.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM OR WHAT, OR WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN THERE, BUT YOU TAKE SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS IN THE NOW AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE 50, 60 HOMES THAT ARE DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THAT.

VERSUS IF YOU GO TWO AND THREE STREETS OVER NOW, IT'S A RESOURCE FOR ANOTHER 500 FAMILIES OR 400 FAMILIES, WHATEVER THAT IS.

SO I THINK NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, YOU'RE GOING TO UPSET SOME, BUT IT'S GOING TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE HAPPY.

AND THAT COULD BE IN REVERSE AS WELL.

IT'S GOING TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE VERY, VERY HAPPY.

AND THEN SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE UPSET AND WHATEVER PERCENTAGE THAT IS, UH, WHO KNOWS.

BUT, UM, I GUESS IF IT WAS ME AND I LIVE IN A VERY CONDENSED NEIGHBORHOOD, UM,

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I THINK I'D RATHER HAVE A PARK-LIKE SETTING THAN A SCHOOL POTENTIALLY.

UM, WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE ACTIVITY COMING AND GOING, UM, A LOT OF CARS, YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD A FEW CARS FOR, UH, FOR A PARK.

THIS WOULD BE EVERY DAY WITH IN THE NOISE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT AGAIN, BUT THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH.

YOU KNOW, IT IS A PARK-LIKE SETTING RIGHT NOW.

THEY CAN FLY THE PRICE LIKE THEY DO EVERY SPRING, WALK THEIR DOG IN THE GREEN SPACE THERE.

THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW.

THEY CAN COME RIGHT NOW AND WALK ALL DAY LONG.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEVELOP IT ANYMORE.

MY LEFT TO MY RIGHT.

YES.

UM, NANCY BERGE.

I GOT A QUESTION.

I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION.

UH, NUMBER ONE, IT MIGHT HELP PEOPLE IF W IF YOU COULD LIST ITEMS OF AMENITIES THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THAT LOCATION THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE PARKING.

WE KNOW THAT IF WE PUT IN A PARK, IT HAS TO BE ADA COMPLIANT.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE COMPLEX THAN I THINK THESE, UH, RESIDENTS HERE ARE SUGGESTING, BUT I THINK IT WOULD HELP IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO COLUMNS, THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE PARKING.

THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE.

IF IT'S JUST A SHELTER, MAYBE IT'S A GAZEBO.

IT IS.

UM, BUT I THINK IF WE PUT IN A PAVILION JUDGE JUDGING BY OUR OTHER PAVILIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PARKS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PARKING THERE BECAUSE WHEN FAMILIES COME IN TO DO PICNICS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PARKING.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE JOSH, I'M GOING TO ASK, WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT BECAUSE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM THE SCHOOL FOR A DOLLAR, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER A REVERSION CLAUSE THAT SAID, IF WE DON'T USE IT OR THEY NEED IT, IT GOES BACK TO THEM.

AND IF IT'S THERE, I'D SURE LIKE TO SEE IT.

UM, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE THAT WOULD PREVENT IT FROM BEING DECLARED A PRESERVATION ZONE OR A GREEN SPACE, THAT WOULD PROTECT IT INTO PERPETUITY.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE OPTIONS HERE.

AND I THINK IN, IN ORDER TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THEM, WE HAVE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CONTRACTUAL LIMITATIONS.

THANK YOU.

SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO MY LEFT TO MY FRONT? AGAIN, JUST A QUESTION.

SO I UNDERSTAND.

UM, SO IS THIS CURRENTLY LIKE AN OFFICIAL CITY PARK? LIKE IS THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PARK ME, EVERYONE'S CALLING IT DOWEL PARK, BUT IS IT OKAY? I GUESS SOME LIST THAT HAVEN'T LISTED THERE.

OKAY.

SO THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE IS ONCE THE CITY DESIGNATES IT A PARK, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO TO IT, DON'T, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARKING.

I WOULD THINK, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PLACE, BECAUSE PARKING ON THE STREET, ISN'T SAFE.

SO I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOT DISCUSSION SEEMS MOOT.

ONCE WE MAKE THIS APART.

NOW YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PARKING, WHERE AND HOW, AND CAN YOU SEE IT FROM SPACE? YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SPINNING OUR WHEELS ON SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT'S A BONAFIDE CITY PARK, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME CERTAIN LEVEL OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND NOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT EXTRAS.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS REGARDING THE TRAILS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M WAY TOO OLD TO BE RIDING BIKES BET ON THE TRAILS BACK THERE.

UM, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE SOME TRAILS THERE NOW, RIGHT? SO ONCE THE CITY TAKES US OVER AND SAYS, BINGO, YOU'RE A PARK.

THE CITY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THOSE TRAILS ARE SAFE.

RIGHT? SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE, IT'S KIND OF THE, WHAT DO WE DO THEM TO MAKE THEM SAFE? YOU CAN CALL THEM MULTI-USE, YOU CAN CALL THEM WHATEVER YOU WANT.

BUT IF THERE ARE TRAILS THERE, THE CITY HAS TO MAINTAIN OR DO SOMETHING WITH THEM.

SO I GUESS I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PLAN BECAUSE OF THAT.

THANKS.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL START TO MY RIGHT BACK TO MY FRIEND.

UM, WHEN THEY TALK, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE TALKING

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ABOUT TRAILS, I DON'T SEE, THEY'RE NOT ALL CONNECTED.

I MEAN, THE TREES ARE DOWN.

YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO GO IN DOWN THE SIDEWALK BOAT WHEN EVERYTHING WAS CLEARED OUT BEHIND US, THE BRUSH IS ALL RIGHT THERE, SO NOBODY CAN ENTER IT BACK THERE.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRAILS, YOU ARE CLIMBING OVER TREES THAT ARE DOWN THERE'S YOU CAN'T RIDE YOUR BIKE IN THERE.

OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT LITTLE, UH, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A SIGNBOARD IS THAT'S DILAPIDATED THERE IN THE CORNER.

SO IF YOU COME OUT FROM YOUR HOUSE AND HEAD TOWARDS LONGFORD, WHERE THAT MAKES A SHARP RIGHT TURN, THERE'S AN OPENING AND THEY'RE JUST GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES RIGHT HERE.

THEY CAN'T COME DOWN BY MY HOUSE.

THERE'S TRAILS THAT GO BACK IN THERE FOR A THOUSAND FEET.

THEY'VE GOT JUMPS AND STUFF BACK THERE, BUT YOU CAN'T, IT'S NOT A THROUGHWAY.

IT'S JUST UP IN THAT AREA THERE.

I MEAN, AND THE TREES, YOU KNOW, NOBODY CAN REALLY WALK IN THERE.

I SAW THIS LADY IN A DRESS COMING OUT BEHIND MY HOUSE AND SHE GOES, OH MY GOSH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TREE WAS DOWN.

SHE HAD TO CLIMB OVER A TREE THIS TALL.

AND I'M LIKE, OH MY GOODNESS.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TO REMOVE ALL THIS.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT USED TO BE WHERE THEY COME IN AND WENT IN AND OUT IT'S IN AND BACK OUT.

THE TORNADO REALLY DID A NUMBER ON IT, SO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.

SO, UM, SO JOSH, IF YOU CAN CLARIFY, UM, THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS IS, UM, THE SURVEY CLOSES ON THE 20TH, OR, UH, WE'LL INPUT ALL OF THIS INTO THIS, INTO THE SYSTEM.

WE'LL TAKE OUR NOTES, UM, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S SOMEWHAT INCLUDED AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THE QUESTIONS AND THEN MAYBE POST THEM SOMEWHERE THE ANSWERS AND THEN POST THEM SOMEWHERE.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO SEND THEM OUT TO POST THEM ON FACEBOOK OR TO SEND THEM OUT TO, UM, THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY SIGNED UP HERE, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET DONE.

UM, AND THEN WE WILL MEET AGAIN ONCE, UH, ONCE WE HAVE, UM, THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND EVERYONE'S HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT SO WE CAN COME UP WITH, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, COME UP WITH A CONSENSUS AND A FEW IDEAS AND THEN PRINTED THOSE TO COUNSEL.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? OKAY.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S AN I AND SARAH.

THE LIVER.

YEAH.

SO IT WAS PASSED OUT TO ALL BUT THREE STRAIGHTS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET THEM, GET THEM WHERE THEY'RE.

OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO AGAIN, ANYONE WHO HASN'T HAD, YES.

I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

YOU SAID IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WHEN I SAY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT, THAT, THAT WHOLE AREA FROM TAYLORSVILLE.

YEAH.

AND YOU PASSED OUT A THOUSAND OF THEM TO A THOUSAND HOMES, A THOUSAND FAMILIES, POTENTIALLY.

I'M JUST WANTING TO POINT THAT OUT.

THERE'S THAT AREA IS MORE THAN JUST THE FEW THAT ARE COMPLAINING RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW THEY LIVE RIGHT BEHIND IT, BUT YES, THERE IS A THOUSAND HOMES IN THAT AREA.

OKAY.

SO, UM, SO WE'LL DO THAT.

UM, SO AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH I'M HOPING WE'LL HAVE THE RESULTS THAT THAT'S WHEN WE SHOULD PLAN ON TALKING ABOUT IT.

UM, SO THAT'S ON OCTOBER 21ST.

UM, SO THAT'LL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY GET THE RESULTS BACK AND REVIEW IT.

NO, SAY IT AGAIN.

OKAY.

SO, UH, SO THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM HERE, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AND AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, JOSH? A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, SO, UM, WELL, YES, SOME BUSINESS THAT FROM THE PAST THAT HAS COME BACK AND IS NOW BEING MOVED FORWARD.

UM, SO, UH, MONITA, I TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR TODAY FROM ANITA FOR THAT THE WHOLE PROJECT OUT THERE, AND THEIR INSTALLER IS SUPPOSED TO BE REACHING OUT TO ME EARLY NEXT WEEK TO SCHEDULE A TIME TO COME AND START INSTALLING THE SKATE PARK RAMPS.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE AS OF RIGHT NOW, SECOND WEEK OF OCTOBER, THERE'LL BE ON SITE TO START BUILDING THE BMX TRACK AND THE BASE FOR THE PUMP TRACKS.

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UH, THE PERIMETER SKILLS LOOP WILL NOT BE DONE THIS YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF TIME.

UH, SO THEY WILL COME IN SPRING OF NEXT YEAR AND START WORKING ON THAT.

UM, THOSE TWO BASEBALL FIELDS THAT MANITA ALONG WITH FIELD ONE AND 7, 8, 9, AND 10 AT CLOUD PARK ARE NOW ALL GETTING A FACELIFT.

ALL THOSE FIELDS ARE GETTING RIDDEN.

UM, SOFTBALL, UH, HAS SPOKEN WITH JAN HENDRICKSON OF LITERALLY THEY ARE NOT HAVING A SEASON THIS YEAR.

SO SOFTBALL HAS NOW CHANGED.

I BELIEVE IT'S HUBER SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL ASSOCIATION.

SO, UM, THEY WILL BE RUNNING REC BASEBALL IN HUBER HEIGHTS NEXT SEASON.

UM, FINGERS CROSSED, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, THE, THE COMPANY WE WERE TALKING TO IS NOT ABLE TO DO THE FIELDS THIS FALL.

UM, BUT THEY'RE HOPING, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT SPRING LOOKS LIKE THEY CAN JUMP IN THERE.

SO WE MAY HAVE TO, UH, DO A FEW THINGS TO THE FIELDS OURSELVES JUST TO GET THEM USABLE FOR THEM FOR NEXT YEAR.

UM, BUT THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I MET WITH MERCER GROUP YESTERDAY TO GET SOME ESTIMATES FOR THE OTHER FOUR FIELDS AND, UH, SOFTBALL WAS THERE AS WELL, UM, TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE TO THOSE FIELDS MEETS THE NEEDS OF WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO.

UM, SO THERE WILL BE BASEBALL IN HUBER NEXT YEAR.

JOSH, CAN YOU TALK IN FENCING AND LIGHTING AND NOPE, NO LIGHTING.

UM, ANY FENCING WILL BE MINIMAL, UH, PROBABLY JUST SOME SIDE FENCING COMING DOWN, NO OUTFIELD FENCES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY, I THINK THEY'RE 55 FOOT AND I THINK ALL OF THE FIELDS WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THE FIT THE SIDE FENCING ON WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH BASE OR WITH ANY SOCCER FIELDS.

SO THAT KIND OF WORKED OUT WELL IN ITSELF.

UM, BUT YEAH, LITTLE LEAGUE TURNED OVER THE KEYS TO ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT, TO ALL OF THEIR STORAGE PODS AND EVERYTHING, AND JUST TOLD THEM TO COME IN.

SO, AND THEN PART OF THAT CONVERSATION TOO, WHICH THE BOARD HAS DISCUSSED BEFORE WAS LONG-TERM FIELD LEASES.

UM, SO THAT WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, UH, FOR THEM TO, UM, LOOK AT THAT WE DO HAVE A LEASE AVAILABLE, UH, FORM THAT, UM, LEGAL HAS GONE THROUGH AND APPROVED OF AND SAID, YOU COULD USE THIS.

UH, SO IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO DO A FIVE-YEAR LEASE OR 10 YEAR LEASE, THEN, UH, WE WILL EXECUTE THAT.

AND, UH, OFF WE GO.

SO THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S A GREAT THING.

UM, I MEAN, I, MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE SOFTBALL FIELDS AT CLOUD PARK.

THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB OF KEEPING THOSE.

UM, I THINK JUST SINCE THEIR SEASON ENDED, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK, I WANT TO SAY 40 TONS OF A FIELD MIX.

THEY'VE ADDED TO THE FIELDS THAT WE BOUGHT AND HAD DUMPED UP FOR THEM.

AND, UH, THEY DID SOME SKIN INTO THE EDGES AND THEY'VE, I MEAN, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN SEASON, THEY'RE OUT THERE IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY KEEPING THE GROUND LOOSE.

UM, SO I, I THINK THIS WILL BE GREAT.

UM, ESPECIALLY WITH US PUTTING THE MONEY UP TO SORT OF REDO THE FIELDS THAT HAS NEEDED DONE FOR AWHILE ANYWAY, TO KNOW THAT THIS GROUP IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINING THEM.

UM, I THINK WE'LL BE GOOD FOR A LONG TIME.

SO, AND THEN, UM, WHAT ELSE WAS THERE EVENTS OR SOMETHING ELSE? I PROBABLY FORGOT TO TELL YOU SO YOU CAN REMIND ME PROBABLY WASN'T THAT IMPORTANT.

MAYBE IT, THE BASKETBALL COURTS OVER THERE NORTH ABOUT 70TH I'VE, UH, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO A COUPLE OF GROUPS TO GET SOME PRICING FOR THAT, ALEX.

SO, UM, IT IS ON MY LIST AND IT IS PART OF MY BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THEM THIS MUCH IN CHRIS'S WAY AT THE Y AS I CAN.

UM, SO I DON'T BRING UP PICKLEBALL.

THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT GROUP.

I WAS TRYING TO GET OUT OF HERE BEFORE EIGHT O'CLOCK.

UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.

UM, OH, I REMEMBER NOW AMPHITHEATER PLAYGROUND.

SO LOOKING AT THE DESIGNS, UH, THE TOP FOUR THAT YOU GUYS PICKED, I SENT TWO OF THOSE BACK TO THE DESIGNER AND SAID, HEY, I WANT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A FOOTPRINT, WHAT SPACE ARE THESE GOING TO TAKE UP? SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE THERE WITHIN, UM, YOU KNOW, 80 SQUARE FEET OF EACH OTHER.

SO THEY'RE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE.

UM, BOTH OF THEM WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT LAYOUT, BUT IF WE SQUARE IT OFF THERE'S ROOM TO PUT A GROUND PLAY PANELS IN THE CORNER, SO WE HAVE THAT INCLUSION.

SO WE HAVE THAT WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBILITY WHERE SOMEONE CAN COME AND, YOU KNOW, NOT LIKE POINT AT THE PICTURE ONES THAT WE'VE GOT IN THE PAST, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE GET WE'LL BE, UM, VERY HANDS-ON AND, AND INVOLVE.

SO THERE'S A LOT THERE.

UM, SO LOOKING AT THAT, I'M HOPING TO HAVE A FINALIZED PROPOSAL TO SEND THE COUNCIL HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH, UH, THAT HAS FULL PRICING.

SO WE CAN

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GET THAT ORDERED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND HAVE IT READY TO THROW IN NEXT SPRING MARIGOLD FESTIVAL THIS WEEKEND WENT PHENOMENALLY.

UH, WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BETTER, HAD THE BUCKEYES NOT BEEN PLAYING, UH, NEXT YEAR, WE'LL GET THE ESPN TRUCK AND SOME BIG TVS OUT THERE.

WE'LL LEARN THEM ALL TO OUR SPOT.

SO DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT.

CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I DID NOT.

CAUSE I WAS AT HOME TAKING A NAP.

WELL, THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD.

UM, SO THAT WAS A GREAT DAY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MADE IT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU.

AND I SAID, WHO WAS THERE? VINCE WAS THERE THE REST OF YOU, YOU GOT SOME CATCHING UP TO DO, BUT THAT WAS A GOOD DAY.

UH, OUR CONCERTS HAVE BEEN GOING WELL.

WE GOT TWO LEFT, UM, BITES IN THE HEIGHTS THIS YEAR.

THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE.

SO, UM, THIS YEAR OUR, UM, OCTOBER MOVIE WAS GOING TO BE COMBINED WITH THE CRUISE AND LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR, UM, BECAUSE THAT CRUISE IN WAS SUCH A HIT.

UM, BUT THEN THIS YEAR WE'RE ALSO COMBINING IT WITH BITES IN THE HEIGHTS.

SO WE WILL HAVE A FULL DAY AND POTENTIALLY ALSO MOVING THE FARMER'S MARKET.

UM, ONCE WE GET THE, OKAY, JUST BECAUSE I NEED VOLUNTEERS AT BITES IN THE HEIGHTS AND VINCE IS USUALLY AT THE FARMER'S MARKET.

SO THAT WAY I CAN ROPE HIM INTO DOING MORE FOR ME.

UM, BUT, UH, SO THAT'LL BE A FULL DAY OF LAB, UH, BITES AND HEIGHTS FROM, I THINK IT'S 11 TO SIX 30.

UH, THE CREWS IN FROM TWO TO SIX 30, THE MOVIE WILL START SEVEN ISH INSIDE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HOPING FOR A GOOD TURNOUT.

UH, COLE BOCKERS IS PASSED OUT A LITTLE OVER A 1700 FLYERS FOR THE CRUISING.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE PARKING THEM OUT ON EXECUTIVE IF WE HAVE TO.

UM, SO JOSH MENTIONED IT ALREADY SATURDAY FARMER'S MARKET, UM, SATURDAY KYLENE DOWNS AND YOU CAN FIND HER MUSIC ON YOUTUBE OR ON FACEBOOK CAUSE I POSTED THE OTHER DAY.

UM, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO COME OUT.

THESE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY GOOD EVENTS AND UH, SOME GREAT EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO ONE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT JUST TO GET, JUST TO GET THE EXPERIENCE.

UM, THE MOVIE LAST WEEK, UM, TROLLS WORLD TOUR WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.

UM, AND, UM, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO NEXT YEAR FOR THAT.

AND THE NEXT MOVIE IS CASPER 1995 CLASSIC.

YES.

SO WE'RE MAKING SURE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WHEN I SAID THAT INDIAN.

OKAY.

SO, UH, SO YOU HAD SOME FREE AND YOU NEED SOMETHING AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO OR YOU WANT TO COME OUT AND HELP VOLUNTEER, ESPECIALLY FOR THE, UH, ANY OF THOSE EVENTS, BUT ESPECIALLY THE OCTOBER 16TH EVENTS, PLEASE LET US, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL LET JOSH KNOW, UM, HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS WE HAVE, BUT IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT, GREAT DAY GREAT EVENT AND JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT ELSE WE HAVE FOR NEXT YEAR.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

OH, COMMENTS, GO AHEAD.

YES.

UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD AN UPDATE.

UM, THE LABOR DAY WAS THE END OF THE NINTH SEASON AT THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER.

SO THE AQUATIC CENTER WILL TURN 10 YEARS OLD NEXT YEAR.

UM, AN UPDATE ON, WE SOLD, UM, 26,149 DAILY PASSES THIS SUMMER.

UM, WE DID NOT OPEN MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.

UM, AND, UH, THERE WERE SOME DAYS IN JULY WHERE THE WEATHER WASN'T COOPERATING AS WELL.

UM, WE STILL, UH, 371 MEMBERSHIPS, UM, WHICH IS UP, UM, LOOKING BACK AT 2019, THAT'S UPFRONT 333.

UM, DON'T REALLY COUNT LAST YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAD TO OPERATE, UM, WHICH LISA'S WITH A LITTLE BIT OVER 8,000 MEMBERS SCANS.

UM, AND THOSE 371 MEMBERSHIPS.

UM, WE DID USE SUNDAY, MONDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS AS RESIDENT, AND PASSHOLDER ONLY DAYS WHICH, UM, WERE WELL RECEIVED, UM, BY OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY, I BELIEVE.

UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL YEAR.

I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF PLACES THAT STRUGGLED, UM, TO GET LIFEGUARDS.

UM, WE HAD, UM, TWO WEEK OR ONE WEEKEND, UH, RIGHT AFTER THE KIDS WENT BACK TO SCHOOL WHERE WE WERE OPEN FOR JUST FOUR HOURS BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER NUMBER OF LIFEGUARDS TO SAFELY GUARD THE BODY, THE WATER.

UM, WHEREAS LIKE IN KETTERING, THEY CLOSED EVERY DAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO GUARD THEIR POOLS.

UM, SO IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL SEASON.

UM, I KNOW JOSH AND I ARE GONNA MEET SOMETIME NEXT WEEK AND START LOOKING AT SOME CAPITAL STUFF THAT

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IS AROUND THE CORNER FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER, BUT IT CONTINUES TO BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, PROVIDES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE THEIR FIRST JOBS AS WELL.

SO, UM, WE'RE EXCITED.

WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND BREATHE, BUT WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE 10TH YEAR TO START NEXT TO THE WORLD DAY 2020.

OKAY.

IT'S ALSO THE AMPHITHEATERS THEN ANNIVERSARY NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

I'M NEARLY AS EXCITING AS THESE FLIGHTS, BUT DEDICATION, DEDICATION.

I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE, UH, A COMMENT OR TWO, UH, MAHLON WOULD PUT MY SOCCER HAT ON AND GIVE THINGS TO JOSH AND THE CITY, UH, THE SOCCER BALLS AT TOM'S CALLED PARK THERE'S NEW GOALS AND THE NETS WAS REAL NICE AND ESPECIALLY THE NEW LINES THAT GOT PUT DOWN FOR SOCCER FIELDS.

THOSE ARE REALLY, REALLY NICE.

AND THE OTHER COMMENT, IT WAS OCTOBER 16TH, THE BITE IN THE HEIGHTS AND ALL THAT.

YEAH.

I'M DEFINITELY GONNA BE BUSY THAT WEEKEND.

THAT'S THE, UH, THE WARRIOR TOURNAMENT.

SO THAT'S THE FALL CLASS OF THAT WEEKEND.

SO I'M GOING TO BE, I'M GOING TO BE, I'M MORE LIKELY I'LL BE AT TOM'S CALLED PARK FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, ALL DAY.

OKAY.

JUST REAL QUICK.

LAST WEEK, THE CITY DID DO A VERY NICE, UH, APPRECIATION DINNER.

UH, TO ME IT WAS WELL ATTENDED.

I KNOW THAT, UM, THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT, UH, OR HOSTED IN 2020, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS A NICE EVENT AND THEY DID IT UP AT THE I'M GOING TO GET THE NAME WRONG, THE BARN HERE AT NIGHT.

I THOUGHT YOU HAD SOME FAITH, THE BARN PRESENTED BY SO-AND-SO, BUT WHAT A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING UP THERE, IT'S A SHAME THAT THERE'LL BE SOME CHANGES THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE UP THERE FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, ALL IN ALL, IT WAS A NICE EVENING NICE EVENT.

AND, UH, IT'S AMAZING HOW, WHEN IT GETS DARK, SO FAST TO GET BACK TO YOUR VEHICLE.

OKAY.

SO AGAIN, UM, UH, LAST THING, UH, SO THE NEXT INSTALLATION OF OUR PARK CLEANUP PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE PLANNED FOR SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 20.

THAT'S NOT THIS SUNDAY, BUT THE FOLLOWING SUNDAY, UH, AT THE HIGH RISE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT BACK IN THE WOODS.

OKAY.

I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A GROUP GOING UP THE 25TH TO DO COMMUNITY PARK.

THE ROTC IS DOING COMMUNITY THE 25TH.

SO SOUNDS GOOD.

IT'LL BE NICE AND CLEAN AND YOU KNOW THAT, OKAY.

THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON PAL, CAN YOU POST SOMETHING, BE A 9:00 AM AND THEN LEAVE MY CHAIR ALONE.

THIS WAS A TIMEOUT CHAIR OUT IN THE BACK OF THE BILL.

AND I SIT IN IT LIKE ONCE.

OKAY.

SUNDAY.

OKAY.

AND JUST OVER, BUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS BEING USED.

WE'RE GETTING, UH, WE GOT SCULPTURES IN THERE AT LEAST TWO DAYS A WEEK, BUT AS FAR AS RENTALS GO, I SAY, COME ON NUMBER 15 FOR THE YEAR, I'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR MORE ALREADY.

UM, SO IT IS GETTING, UM, WELL RECEIVED.

PEOPLE LOVE THE SPACE.

UH, I KNOW CHRIS HAS USED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WILL START, THAT'LL BE AFTER THIS DIAL WAS AFTER THIS WHOLE THING IS DONE AND THAT'LL BE OUR NEXT, UH, BIG JUMP.

UH, WE WILL DO A SIMILAR, UH, CAMPAIGN AS FAR AS SURVEYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE DETAIL, I THINK, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE POTENTIAL THERE.

UM, SO WE REALLY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MUFFLE DOWN ALAN.

SO ANY IDEAS YOU HAVE NOW STARTED GETTING ON PAPER, WE'LL DISCUSS SOME THINGS, OURSELVES, UH, QUESTIONS WE WANT TO SEE AS FAR AS THE SURVEY.

UM, AND I MEAN, I, I REALLY THINK THIS COULD BE SOMETHING REALLY COOL TO HAVE, SO.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

SO MY LAST COMMENT, IF YOU KNOW ANYONE ON THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION BOARD, JERRY, JOSH, OR ANYONE ELSE WITH THE CITY WHO HELPED WITH THE MIRACLE FESTIVAL, PLEASE THANK THEM FACE TO FACE, GIVE THEM A, YOU KNOW, AN ELBOW BOND OR WHATEVER.

UM, A FIST BUMP.

UM, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB AND WE HAD SOME GREAT VOLUNTEERS.

SO IF YOU SEE ANYONE THAT'S ON THE BOARD OR ON THAT COMMISSION, PLEASE CONGRATULATE THEM, ESPECIALLY.

AND I THINK MOST OF THEM STAYED OR EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING UNTIL THE END OF THE MOVIE.

THEY HAD SIX OR SEVEN VOLUNTEERS THROUGHOUT THE DAY, BUT I THINK AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM STAYED FOR THE WHOLE 12, 14 HOUR DAY.

SO, OKAY.

SO, UM, IF,

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UH, NEXT AGENDA ITEM HERE, WE'LL GO ON TO NUMBER EIGHT APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 19TH, 2021, HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

NEXT AGENDA ITEM MEETING MINUTES FROM JULY 15TH, 2021.

HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES? OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE MEETING, THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 15TH, 2021 WILL BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.

ANY OBJECTIONS MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

UPCOMING MEETINGS, OCTOBER 21ST, 2021 AT SIX 30.

AND IT IS 7 36 AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.