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[ AGENDA MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road August 25, 2021 6:00 P.M. ]
TIME FOR THE 25TH AUGUST MEETING OF THE CUBA, HIGHEST MILITARY ENVIRONMENTS COMMISSIONED TO COME TO ORDER.LET'S HAVE THE PLEDGE OF LEGION
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION, MR. LAST NAME, HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO ASSEMBLE TODAY.
IT'S THE HUBER HEIGHTS, MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION.
WE ASKED THAT WE DO ALL THINGS THAT GLORIFY YOU AND MAGNIFY YOUR NAME.
WE ALSO SAY A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR THOSE TROOPS THAT ARE TROOPS AIRMEN, SEAMEN COAST GUARD, MARINES THAT ARE DEPLOYED OVERSEAS AND HERE LOCALLY IN THE US AND WHEREVER THEY MAY BE, THAT YOU WOULD KEEP YOUR ARMS OF PROTECTION AROUND THEM.
AND DEFINITELY A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR OUR SOLDIERS AND AMERICANS AND MILITARY MEMBERS THAT ARE TRAPPED IN AFGHANISTAN.
FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PEACEFULLY, BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN SO THAT YOU GET THE GLORY.
WE ALSO PRAY FOR THOSE COMRADES THAT PAID THE FINAL SACRIFICE OF GIVING THEIR LIFE IN SUPPORT OF THIS COUNTRY.
OUR STANDARDS, OUR FREEDOMS IN OUR VALUES SEND YOUR PRECIOUS NAME.
MR. ESTEBAN HERE, MR. LASLEY HERE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE THE ABSENCES OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT HERE.
I'LL SECOND THAT, OH, GO AHEAD AGAIN.
I'LL SECOND THAT, UH, LET'S HAVE A VOICE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
ALL THE POLLS SAID, NATE HERE.
LET'S START OFF WITH, LET ME MAKE A QUICK, UM, COUPLE QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, LOOKING AT OUR VOTING, UM, BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT ONE WAY OF VOTING EITHER WE CAN DO A VOICE VOTE OR WE DO, UH, UH, ABOUT AN EIGHT VOTE WHERE YOU CALLED IN, FIRSTLY GIVE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR VOTE.
UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO PUT IN IS A MOTION TO ASK, WHICH ONE OF THESE TYPES OF VOTES DO WE WANT TO DO? WHICHEVER ONE WE DECIDE WE WANT TO DO, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO ALL THE TIME.
I WON'T BE SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN VOICE VOTING AND, UH, AND THEY VOTED ROLL CALL VOTE BROTHER.
SO I LIKE TO PUT A MOTION OUT, UM, THAT, WELL, FIRST LET'S LOOK AT THE DISCUSSION.
MAYBE AS MUCH MAYBE AS EMOTION, EMOTION, UH, HOW MANY IRS AND DOING THE VOICE VOTE.
UM, CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION THOUGH? UM, SO WHAT IS THE MOTIVATION FOR CHANGING THE WAY THE SPEED? SO SPEED IT UP.
I WOULD JUST PUT OUT THERE THAT THE REASON THAT WE DO THE ROLL CALL IS SO THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF JUST THE HISTORY OF THE DIFFERENT VOTES AND POSITIONS.
IT PUTS A PERSON, UM, POSITION ON PAPER.
SO WE CAN CHOOSE THAT VOTE AND WE CAN DO IT EVERY TIME.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT WOULD JUST BE ALONG THE PROCESS, WHICHEVER ONE WE DO, WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET FROM A PROTOCOL PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF MANAGEMENT AT THE MEETINGS.
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE TIMELINESS OF IT, BUT FROM, UH, OUR BOOK, UM, I ROGERS, OKAY.
I MEAN, IS, IS THAT AN ALLOWED PROCEDURE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERY VOTE THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN CAN'T REALLY SAY YES, I KNOW, BUT, WELL, HERE'S WHAT WE'LL DO I TAKE ON THE CONSIDERATION AND I WILL RESEARCH THAT AND I'LL
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HAVE AN ANSWER WHEN WE MEET NEXT TIME.SO, UM, UNTIL THEN WE'LL SEE WHICH FOLK WE GO WITH AND WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE A SOLID ANSWER, WE'LL, WE'LL PRESS WORK.
HOW'S THAT IS THAT WORKED FOR EVERYONE.
THE NEXT THING IS, UM, SINCE WE ARE ADVISORS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT EVERY SO OFTEN TAKING A DISCUSSION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF WHERE WE ARE AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IN TOTAL IS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT.
UM, THE ONES THAT KNOW EXACTLY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE OUR FIRST APPROACH, BUT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT HAPPENING.
SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING.
AND PROBABLY WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT A WORKING SESSION, CITY COUNCIL WORKING SESSION, PERHAPS IN SEPTEMBER.
OH, WELL MAYBE LATEST WOULD BE OCTOBER.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I JUST WANTED TO MENTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I WILL LOOK AT IT PROVEN IN MINUTES, UH, WITH 28TH OF JULY, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE IT IN, UH, ELECTRONIC MEANS THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UH, I'D LIKE TO, UM, TAKE A VOICE VOTE AND SEE IF, UM, UH, AND APPROVE IT.
ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, HEARING NONE.
I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE DO A VOICE VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PASSING THE MINUTES, SAY, YAY, YAY.
AND THOSE WHO APPROACH AND NOT SAY, OKAY, HEARING THE MINUTES STANDS APPROVED.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE CITIZENS I WAS GOING TO GIVE PROJECT? YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW? OR? WELL, I'LL LET YOU DO IT WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE MEMORIAL.
WE'LL PUT THAT ON HOLD JUST A SECOND.
AND GUESS WHAT? WE ON THE VETERAN MAURA NOW BILL HAS AN UPDATE.
SO DID YOU WANT TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR AND YOUR UPDATE OR YOU WANT THE MAYOR TO SPEAK FIRST? I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT CAME FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH.
DO YOU HAVE PICTURES IF YOU HAVE THINGS? YES.
UH, I GOT A WHOLE PACKAGE OF ALL THE, ALL THE PICTURES.
UM, AND I GOT, I GOT THE STATEMENT, UH, THAT WAS MADE.
UM, SO, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR IT, WHATEVER, WELL, I TURNED IN ONE INTERRUPT OR TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT YOU WERE PLAYING.
I JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND SHARE MY EXPERIENCE IN MINNESOTA AS A PLAN.
JUST KIND OF PROCESS IF IT'S OKAY.
CAN I JUST READ THE STATEMENT AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
AND BY THE WAY, SCOTT SENT THIS, UH, UM, ARTIST'S RENDERING TODAY MAKES A GREAT SCREENSAVER, PUT IT ON MY COMPUTER AS A SCREENSAVER TODAY.
YOU GUYS WERE THE FIRST OUT OF OFFICES.
THE HUBER HEIGHTS VETERANS MEMORIAL UPDATE, THE HUBERT HEIGHTS VETERANS MEMORIAL AT THOMAS CLOUD PARK IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH AN ANTICIPATED OPENING TIME FOR VETERANS DAY, NOVEMBER 11TH, 2021, MAYOR JEFF GORE AND THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR ELLIS WC.
THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT DESIGNED THE MEMORIAL RECENTLY VISITED THE QUARRY AND COLD SPRINGS, MEN AND SODA WHERE THE GRANTED FOR THE HUBER HEIGHTS VETERANS MEMORIAL IS BEING MINED.
THE GRANITE FROM THIS CORY WILL BE USED IN THE 11 DIFFERENT MONUMENTS THAT ARE EIGHT FEET TALL, FOUR FEET AND 12 INCHES THICK.
THIS GRANITE IS THE SAME, MASABI BLACK GRANTED THAT WAS USED TO BUILD THE KOREAN WAR MEMORIAL IN WASHINGTON, DC, AND WILL BE MINED FROM THE SAME QUARRY IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA.
SO WE HAD, UM, I WAS TALKING WITH SCOTT, SO LWCC, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB DESIGNING.
I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS.
I MEAN, WE HAD ANTICIPATED, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THING, UH, THE MEMORIAL BEING OPEN LAST MEMORIAL DAY, AND THEN IT WENT TO LAST VETERAN'S DAY AND THEN WE COME UPON A MEMORIAL DAY AGAIN.
SO WHEN IT GOT TO THE POINT WHEN WE FINALLY GOT THEIR SCHEDULED TIMELINE, ONCE EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ISSUES WITH WHERE THE GRANT WAS GOING TO COME FROM.
WAS IT UNCOMFORTABLE FOR SEAS? WAS IT GOING TO COME LOCALLY? SO I TELL THEM ALL THIS STARTED GOING THROUGH AND THEN WE SAW THE PROJECT SCHEDULE LAID OUT.
THE TIMEFRAME FOR VETERAN'S DAY WAS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NARROW.
IT DID NOT LEAVE US HARDLY ANY ROOM FOR ERROR.
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AN OPENING DATE OR HAVING A COMPLETED SOMEWHERE AROUND LIKE THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS OF OCTOBER.SO THAT WAS SOMEWHAT CONCERNING TO SCOTT.
SCOTT BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION.
IT WAS CERTAINLY CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE ANYTHING HAPPENING FROM SHIPPING, YOU START, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SHIPPING 11, YOU KNOW, 4,000 POUND PIECES OF GRANTED, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR MINNESOTA TO SOME, TO, TO HUBER HEIGHTS AND JUST WHO KNOWS WHAT, WHAT COULD HAVE WENT WRONG.
SO TH THAT'S TIMELINE WAS WHAT REALLY CONCERNED US.
SO SCOTT HAD, UM, HAD TALKED ABOUT GOING TO, UH, MINNESOTA HIMSELF, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE, SCOTT IS A, IN A SITUATION AS INTERIM MANAGER.
I MEAN, THE GUY'S BUSIER THAN A ONE-ARMED PAPER HANGER.
AND, UH, SO HE HAD ASKED ME IF I WOULD GO IN, INSTEAD OF COURSE I SAID, YES, UH, SCHOOL HADN'T STARTED YET.
AND THE, THE ACTUAL GRANT ITSELF IS COMING FROM A PLANT CALLED, UH, IN ELY, MINNESOTA.
SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP, ELEY IS REALLY, IT'S ALMOST IT'S RIGHT ON THE CANADIAN BORDER.
SO COLDSPRING HAS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, THEIR, THEIR COMPANY HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT, UH, GRANITE QUARRIES IN EACH GRANITE QUARRY.
HA YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS DIFFERENT.
THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF GRANITE COLOR OF GRANITE THAT COMES OUT OF EACH ONE OF THOSE MINES.
AND SO THE ELEY, CORY IS THE ONE UP BY CANADA.
THAT'S WHERE, UH, WHERE OUR GRANTED IS COMING FROM.
IT'S, IT'S WHERE IT WAS MINED FROM.
THAT'S THE, THE, THE QUARRY WHERE THE KOREAN WAR MEMORIAL CAME FROM.
SO THE SAME COMPANY, UH, IN COLD SPRING MIND TO THAT, GRANTED THEY HAVE ALL THEIR OWN DESIGNERS, THEIR STEM SELLERS.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING YOU COULD IMAGINE, UH, THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO DESIGN SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SITE.
SO I THINK IN, IN WHATEVER PRO IN THE PROCESS WE USE TO IDENTIFY THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY, UH, KUDOS TO HOWEVER THAT PROCESS HAPPENED, BECAUSE I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN SEEING THEIR OPERATION OF CLUBS, THAT THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE NEED THEM TO DO.
SO WE GOT TO A POINT THEN WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY EXPECTING.
SO EVEN ON THE SCHEDULE, WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THE GRANITES EVEN TO BE SHIPPED UNTIL, OR I'M SORRY TO BE MINED UNTIL SOMETIME IN LATE AUGUST, THAT WAS KIND OF ON THEIR ORIGINAL SCHEDULE.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THIS, THESE MINES, HOW THEY CUT THIS GRANITE AND HOW THEY, HOW THEY GET IT, IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.
I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG PROCESS.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT.
LIKE TIMEFRAME, LIKE HOW IN THE WORLD, UH, HAVING THIS STUFF MINED BY AUGUST, IS IT GOING TO BE, IS IT GOING TO BE CUT? AND ORIGINALLY WE THOUGHT, WELL, WHEN THEY GET IT CUT, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO CUT IT.
AND IT'S GOING TO GO TO SOME COMPANY IN INDIANA TO BE ENGRAVED AND HAVE ALL THAT STUFF DONE.
WELL, HAD THE GRANITE COME FROM OVERSEAS, THAT WAS KIND OF THAT LOGISTICS PIPELINE.
IT WOULD HAVE GONE FROM CHINA TO INDIANA AND THEN TO HERE.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING REASONABLY WE'RE CONCERNED.
WELL, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH OF THAT LOGISTICS GET IN THE WAY AND THEN COST US NOT TO HAVE IT TO BE READY TO BE OPEN BY VETERAN'S DAY.
SO, AND YOU GUYS CAN, YOU CAN PUT THE PICTURES UP THERE AND START FLIPPING THROUGH OR, OR HOWEVER, UM, SO THOSE ARE, YEAH, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THOSE THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS, THREE DIFFERENT BLOCKS OF BRANDS THAT THEY MIND THAT ALL OF OUR SLABS, ALL OF OUR PIECES ARE GONNA COME FROM.
AND EACH ONE OF THOSE, I MEAN, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, 50,000 POUND BLOCKS OF, OF GRANT.
AND THEY, THE, THE, THE SAWS, THE MACHINES THAT THEY HAVE IT, THEY CUT EIGHT CENTIMETERS AN HOUR.
SO, I MEAN, TH THEY'RE DIAMOND BLADE SAWS.
THAT'S HOW THEY CUT THAT STUFF.
AND SO IT TAKES, IT TAKES A LONG TIME, BUT, UH, BUT OVERALL, SO WHEN WE GOT THERE, I WAS EXTREMELY SURPRISED AND HAPPY THAT THE BLOCKS ARE ALREADY THERE.
SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY KNEW THEY, THEY, THEY EXPEDITED IT AND GOT IT DONE BECAUSE THEY KNEW SEAN WHO'S, THE PROJECT MANAGER FROM LWCC WERE COMING BECAUSE WE WERE THERE EARLY AUGUST, FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS OF AUGUST, AND LIKE WHAT WE WERE ON THE THIRD OR THE FOURTH.
AND THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO EVEN MINE OUR GRANITE UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST, BUT WE GOT THERE AND THEY ALREADY HAD IT AT THE PLANT.
AND THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO US.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS FANTASTIC.
THESE WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
SO LET'S JUST, THAT'S KIND OF THE PICTURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT ONE OF THE MACHINES.
THAT'S HOW THEY POLISH THE GRANITE.
SO ONCE THEY GET IT CUT ON THE SLAB, THEN THEY POLISH IT.
UH, SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU DO A GRANITE COUNTERTOP, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
IT CAN LOOK, IT CAN BE A MATTE FINISH, A POLISHED FINISH.
THEY CAN RAISE SOME OF THE GRAIN AND ALL THAT.
SO THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE PROCESSES.
BUT SO WE WERE REALLY VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT WAS THERE.
THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED CUTTING.
SO WE WERE THERE ON, I THINK WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY, AND THERE ARE GRANTED WAS SCHEDULED TO GO INTO PRODUCTION AND BE CUT ON THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY.
SO THEY HAVE SENT, IT SAID, SOME PICTURES ARE, THE SLABS ARE CUT, THEY'RE DONE.
AND THEY'RE READY TO GO INTO THE NEXT PROCESS OF ACTUALLY FORMING AN ENGRAVING, ALL THE DIFFERENT CNC MACHINES THEY HAVE THERE, THAT, THAT, THAT CUT.
IT IS JUST A REALLY, REALLY CRAZY PROCESS.
AND, UH, IT'S ALL DONE RIGHT THERE IN THEIR PLANT.
WE MET THE LADIES WHO ARE GOING TO BE STENCILING THE ACTUAL AND ETCHING THE IMAGES FROM THE MACHINES TO GET ALL THE, THE ACTUAL IMAGES
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ONTO THE GRANITE, JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE THESE.SO THEY HAVE, UM, THEY HAVE KIND OF WHAT THEY CALL THE TWENTY-FIVE YEAR CLUB OR THE GREEN HAT CLUB.
SO EVERY PERSON THAT WORKS FOR COLDSPRING, WHO'S BEEN WITH THE COMPANY LONGER THAN 25 YEARS, WHEREAS THEIR HARD HATS ARE GREEN AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S IS WHITE.
AND YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE NUMBER OF GREEN HARD HATS IN THIS FACILITY.
IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY HAS A GREEN HARDHAT.
SO AS WE STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE, HOW LONG THEY WORKED THERE, THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 40, 42, 43 YEARS.
ONE OF THE MINES THAT WE VISITED, THE PLANT THAT, THAT MINE, THE QUARRY MANAGER HAD BEEN THERE FOR 43 YEARS WORKING THE EXACT SAME CORY DIGGING THE EXACT SAME GRANITE FOR THE LAST 43 YEARS.
I MEAN, SO W I'M WE ARE IN UNBELIEVABLY GOOD HANDS.
I BELIEVE WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING, GETTING OUR PROJECT FINISHED AND CLEAN ON TIME.
UH, THERE'S A GUY NAMED BOB WHO JUST EVERY LAST MINUTE DETAIL MET HIM.
EVERYTHING GETS, UH, THERE WAS ONE OF THE GREEN HELMETS THERE, GREEN AT GREEN HARD-ASS.
SO MOST OF THE, A LOT OF THE WORK THEY DO, THEY HAVE, SO THEY HAVE A MEMORIAL DIVISION AND THEY HAVE A COMMERCIAL DIVISION AND THE MORAL DIVISION, THEY CA I MEAN, THESE GUYS MAKE TOMBSTONES AND, YOU KNOW, UM, MAUSOLEUMS COLUMBARIUMS, I MEAN, THEY MAKE JUST EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE ON A GRANT.
AND THEY GOT CRASHING UP THERE THAT LITERALLY GET CHISELS AND HAMMERS.
I MEAN, AND THEY'RE CUTTING THIS STUFF BY HAND, THESE TOMBSTONES AND THE MONUMENTS THAT YOU WOULD GO SEE EVERY DAY WHEN YOU VISIT A CEMETERY.
I MEAN, THEY'RE CUTTING THIS STUFF BY HAND, BUT OVERALL, UH, WE'RE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ON TIME.
THE, THE, THE PIECES OF GRANT THEMSELVES WILL BE HERE.
THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO BE HERE MID SEPTEMBER.
SO THE, THE PROCESS OF THE PROJECT, THE GREEN THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN FIRST, BECAUSE IT'S, THEY'RE SO HEAVY, THEY'VE GOT TO GET THOSE BLOCKS SET.
IF WE DO ALL THE FLAT WORK CONCRETE WORK, PUT IN THE GRAVEL, PUT IN THE REST OF THE GRANITE, UM, KIND OF THE PAVERS, THE STONES, THE BRICKS THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, THAT STILL ARE AVAILABLE TO, UM, TO SELL, TO RAISE MONEY FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, MEMORIALIZE SOMEBODY THERE.
IF THAT STUFF WENT IN FIRST, THEN THE EQUIPMENT WE'D HAVE TO BRING IN TO BE ABLE TO LIFT AND MOVE THE GRANITE PIECES IN PLACE FOR THE ACTUAL MEMORIALS.
WE WOULD DESTROY EVERYTHING ON THE GROUND FIRST.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO IMPORTANT.
THOSE THAT THE GRANITE PIECES GET HERE FIRST.
CAUSE THOSE WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT GO UP.
THEN WE CAN COME IN WITH ALL THE, THAT EQUIPMENT THEN CAN LEAVE AND THEN ALL THE FINISHED WORK AND THE FLAT WORK AND CONCRETE AND ALL THAT STUFF CAN BE DONE, COULD BE DONE SEPARATELY.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE CORY THAT WE VISITED AND IT'S CALLED THE, THE CHARCOAL CORY, AND I'M SURE MANY OF YOU HAVE VISITED CEMETERIES IN THE PAST.
SO WHEN YOU SEE A TOMBSTONE THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT KIND OF GRAYISH SILVER ISH, CHARCOAL BLEND, I MEAN PROBABLY 70% OF THE TOMBSTONES YOU SEE IN THIS COUNTRY COME FROM, COME FROM THAT PLANT RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO YEAH, I, UH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS OR KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT, UM, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE.
I THINK LAB, WE'RE READY TO GO.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD, UM, ASK YOU GUYS, SO WE IS FOR WHAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD DETERMINE IS HOW DO WE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? HOW DO YOU WANT TO OPEN, UM, THE MEMORIAL? SO DO WE WANT TO DO A RIBBON CUTTING AHEAD OF TIME WHEN IT'S FINISHED AND THEN HAVE PEOPLE THERE FOR THE MEMORIAL, UM, FOR VETERANS DAY CELEBRATION OR VETERANS DAY CEREMONY, OR DO YOU WANT TO DO A RIBBON CUTTING AND THE CEREMONY ALL AT THE SAME AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE VETERAN'S DAY IS KIND OF A SOMBER.
SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A, IF IT'S A CELEBRATION OF RIBBON CUTTING AT THAT MADE SENSE TO BE AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE VETERANS CEREMONY WAS AT, OR IF WE WANTED TO DIVIDE THOSE TWO THINGS UP.
BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LEAVE TO THE COMMISSION TO KIND OF DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S COMING UP.
UH, AND ONE OF THE I'M ON THE, UH, I'LL JUST SAY I'M ON THE, UH, THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE DAYTON CONVENTION CENTERS, UH, FACILITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, THE GUMBY COUNTY OR CITY OF DAYTON HANDED OVER THE CONVENTION CENTER TO AN EXECUTIVE BOARD, UH, TO, TO MANAGE, TO BASICALLY REBUILD AND REDO THE CONVENTION CENTER AND, AND START HAVING CONVENTIONS AGAIN DOWNTOWN.
AND SO AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, UM, I MET, I MISSED THE MEETING THAT THEY, THE LAST MEETING THEY HAD, I MISSED IT BECAUSE I W THEY HAD IT WHILE I WAS IN MINNESOTA.
SO WHEN I CAME BACK, I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEY ALL KNEW WHERE I WAS AT AND WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND ALL OF THEM ASKED IF THEY COULD GET SPECIAL LIMITATIONS TO COME TO OUR, UH, TO THE CEREMONY WHEN WE OPENED IT UP.
SO I SAID, WELL, ONCE WE FIGURE OUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE ON VETERAN'S DAY, OR IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A RIBBON CUTTING SOMETIME BEFORE, AND THEN HAVE THE THURSDAY CELEBRATION, I'D CERTAINLY LET THEM ALL KNOW, BUT EVERYBODY ON THE, UH, CONVENTION CENTER AUTHORITY BOARD IS INTERESTED IN COMING AND THEY HAVE TIES WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DDC AND THE DAYTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND THEY HAVE MEMBERS THAT ARE VETERANS.
THEY REPRESENT LOTS OF DIFFERENT VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT.
SO THEY WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT TO ALL OF THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME TO OUR, UH, TO OUR OPENING.
SO THEY'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT SEEING IT.
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WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING IT ON A DIFFERENT DAY, SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT REASON AS WE KNOW HOW UNCOMFORT EVERYBODY GETS ON NOVEMBER 11TH.SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I THINK IN THE END, WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IT WAS BOB IS THE GUY THAT JUST EVERYTHING LAST MINUTE GETS THROWN TO, AND THIS GUY LOOKS AT ME AND HE SAYS, MR. GORE, YOUR STUFF WILL BE THERE WHEN YOU NEED IT.
OKAY, BOB, BOB'S BEEN THERE FOR HE'S, HE'S BEEN THERE LONGER THAN ANYBODY TALKED TO.
HE WAS LIKE 45 YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT.
THIS I'LL PUT THAT TOGETHER SO THAT I'VE GOT TO BE DONE BY JUNE.
THERE ARE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PROJECT MEETINGS EVERY FRIDAY MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK AT THE MEMORIAL SITE OF CLOUD PARK.
AND, UM, SEAN IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FROM LWCC SEAN HENSLEY.
SO SEAN AND SCOTT, AND THEN, UM, THE CREW, THE PROJECT MANAGERS FROM OUTDOOR ENTERPRISES CAUSE OUTDOOR ENTERPRISES OF THE COMPANY THAT WE HIRED TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE MORAL THEY'RE THE ONES DOING ALL THE WORK THERE NOW.
SO EVERY FRIDAY MORNING, NINE O'CLOCK, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PROJECT MEETING THAT HAPPENS AT THE SITE AND THEY CARRY THEIR LISTS.
IT'S JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO PROJECT MANAGEMENT, THEY'VE GOT THEIR GANTT CHART, THEY'VE GOT THEIR TIMELINE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY, I THINK ON THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE OUT THERE, THEY'RE THERE ABOUT TWO WEEKS OUT OF SCHEDULE NOW THAN WHAT EVEN THEY HAD PLANNED ON THE GANTT CHART.
SO ONCE THAT, ONCE THE GRANT IS HERE AND IT'S ONSITE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA START CLICKING.
WE JUST CAN'T DO ANY OTHER WORK UNTIL THOSE BIG SLABS ARE UP BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DAMAGE THE OTHER, THE OTHER WORK NOW.
SO I KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME TALK ABOUT KIND OF PUSHING AND TRYING TO GET THIS DONE.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING ON.
A LOT OF THAT, THAT, THAT WAS ON ME.
I'VE BEEN, I HAVE MY KIND OF FOOT ON THE THROAT OF ALL THIS HAPPENING BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS DONE IN TERMS OF VETERAN'S DAY.
IT WASN'T JUST AN ARBITRARY DATE.
WE WERE WORRIED WE WANTED TO GET DONE BY VETERAN'S DAY.
SO IT WASN'T WRAPPED AROUND AGAIN TO ANOTHER MEMORIAL DAY.
AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE PUSHING THIS, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE INTENTION TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAD OUR, WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING WITH THE BILL AND AL SO WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SELL MEMORIAL BRICKS AND, AND LARGER GRANITE STONES AND PAVERS.
NOW, IT WOULD'VE BEEN EASIER IF WE HAD ALL THIS STUFF DONE AHEAD OF TIME, BUT OUR TIMELINE, OUR SCHEDULE JUST KIND OF DIDN'T ALLOW FOR THAT TO BE THE EASIEST PROCESS, BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND YOU GUYS CAN STILL TALK ABOUT THAT AND GO TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SPONSORSHIP WOULD BE AND HOW MUCH FOR BRICK, HOW MUCH FOR A LARGER PAVER, HOW MUCH FOR AN ACTUAL PIECE OF GRANITE, AND THEN EVEN THERE'S ROOM ALONG THE, AROUND THE PATH FOR PEOPLE TO DONATE MONEY FOR A MEMORIAL BENCH.
UM, SO ALL THOSE THINGS, AND EVERY PIECE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, COLD SPRING CAN HANDLE, THEY CAN MANUFACTURE AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN CUT THAT, ENGRAVE IT AND GET THEM ALL SENT HERE.
SO THERE'S STILL LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO STILL DO THIS, THE WAY THAT THEY WANTED TO DO IT AND STILL GET US DOWN IN THE TIMEFRAME WHERE WE CAN CELEBRATE THIS VETERANS DAY.
I APPRECIATE YOU OFFERING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU AND, UH, STARTED TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
LET ME KNOW, CAUSE I'LL GET HOLD OF ME, EMAIL, CALL ME, TEXT ME, WHATEVER.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THE NIGHT'S OVER ABOUT THE TRIP OR ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES OR ANYTHING ELSE, I'LL BE HERE.
I WAS GOING TO COVER QUESTIONS, HEARING NONE.
THE NEXT TIME HE GIVES THE, UM, WHEN YOUR TOWNSHIP HISTORICAL SOCIETY, MILITARY VETERANS PARTNERING OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I'VE TALKED WITH PAT STEVENS.
UM, A COUPLE OF TIMES RIGHT NOW, UH, HER HUSBAND IS, UM, IS SICK AND, UM, SHE'S TAKING CARE OF HIM, BUT, UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE CIVIL WAR VETERAN THAT WE HAVE IN THE CEMETERY THERE OFF OF A FISHBURNE.
AND ALSO WE BELIEVE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON, THERE SEEMED TO BE A WORLD WAR, TWO SOLDIER ALSO, OR MILITARY MEMBER.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT A SOLDIER AIRMAN, UH, OR MARINE, BUT I'M A MILITARY TYPE FROM WAR, WORLD WAR TWO.
WE WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND SOMEHOW LINK THOSE PARTICULAR GRAVES TO, UH, OUR MEMORIAL.
UM, DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT YET, BUT IT'S IN A DISCUSSION.
I KNOW THAT AT ONE POINT I, I HAD SPOKEN WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT IT AND, UM, AND, UM, IT BEEN MENTIONED, MAYBE WE COULD PUT, UM, A PILLAR OR SOMETHING AT THE MEMORIAL, UH, HONORING THE CIVIL WAR SOLDIER.
WE KNOW HIM FOR SURE THAT HE'S THERE.
AND HE WAS, HE DIED AS A RESULT OF WOUNDS.
HE RECEIVED IN A BATTLE, UM, DURING THE CIVIL WAR, UH, THE OTHER GUY, I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON, BUT, UH,
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JUST A SECOND THING THAT WE REALLY THINK WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE, THE MEMORIAL FOR, UH, FOR OUR COMMISSION AND FOR THE CITY.IF WE RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO HAVE, HAVE GONE ON BEFORE US, UM, UH, VETERANS THAT ARE HERE IN THE CITY OF, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS.
SO I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID, SHE'S BUSY WITH RALPH, HER HUSBAND.
AND, UM, SHE WAS SAYING THAT, UH, UH, SHE ALMOST LOST THE MELODY.
SO I, UM, UH, I TOLD HER, YOU KNOW, TAKE YOUR TIME AND WE'LL GET BACK TOGETHER, UM, WHEN WE PULL THAT TOGETHER.
AND SINCE WE'RE MENTIONING SICK PEOPLE, UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON AND I MEANT TO MENTION THIS UPFRONT, UM, THE REASON THAT RAY IS NOT HERE TODAY IS HE SICK, VERY SICK AND, UM, HE'S A SEWING AND HE HAS COVID.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE PRAYING FOR HIM, UH, THAT HE RECOVERS FROM THAT WITHOUT ANY COMPLICATIONS AND GET BACK HERE AND BE WITH US, UH, UH, NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE HE'S REALLY MISSED, UM, ALSO JOHN BANQUETS, HE'S NOT HERE BECAUSE HE WAS WITH RAY FATTIES FOR RE UH, FOUND OUT HE HAD COVID.
SO JOHN IS QUARANTINED AT HOME UNTIL, UM, HE TOOK A TEST, BUT HAVEN'T GOTTEN RESULTS YET.
SO THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT HERE WITH US TONIGHT.
RAY CALLED ME AT EIGHT 15 THIS MORNING.
AND, UH, HE CALLED ME YESTERDAY ABOUT NINE O'CLOCK.
UH, HE SOUNDED A LOT BETTER TODAY THAN HE DID YESTERDAY.
UM, HE HAD BREAKFAST YESTERDAY, WHICH IS A GOOD SIGN, RIGHT.
UM, AND, UH, HE THOUGHT YESTERDAY THAT HE'D HAD A COUPLE MINOR HEART ATTACKS, BUT THAT PROVED IN NOT BE, UH, THEY HAD HIS MEDICATIONS MESSED UP WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR COVID AND HIS REGULAR MEDICATIONS.
AND THEY GOT THAT ALL BACK UNDER CONTROL LAST EVENING.
SO TODAY HE WAS A LOT BETTER AND HE SAID THAT THEY PROBABLY WERE GOING TO PUT HIM INTO THERAPY TODAY OR REHAB TODAY.
SO HE SOUNDED A LOT BETTER 24 HOURS AFTER I TALKED TO HIM YESTERDAY.
UM, UM, RAY'S A VERY BUSY MAN AND, YOU KNOW, RAY WAS FASCINATING, SO WE HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR THAT.
UM, AND, UM, UH, LOU THE BEST, WELL, I GUESS THE CITY'S GONE TAKE CARE OF THAT, SO WE'LL DO THAT.
SO WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO THE MEMORIAL DAY ACTIVITY, UM, UH, PLANNING ACTIVITIES AS, AS THE MAYOR JUST MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO START PLANNING TO START LOOKING AT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE MEMORIAL ON THAT DAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, ON VETERANS DAY OR AROUND VETERANS DAY.
UM, SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
UM, NANCY BERGE HAD MENTIONED TO ME THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK AT TRYING TO FIND A RETIRED GENERAL IN THE AREA TO BEAT A GUEST SPEAKER.
WE'RE DOING IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET GENERAL COMBINER TO COME OUT.
HE WAS A SIX YEAR POW WAS IN THE CITY OF DAYTON.
HE WAS AMC COMING ON FOR A WHILE.
UM, I CAN SEE IF HE'S STOLEN AND IF HE'S CAPABLE.
UM, YEAH, IF YOU WOULD DO THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOW, CAN I, SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MEMORIAL DAY? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT VETERANS DAY? THE MEMORIAL, THE MEMORIAL OPENED UP MEMORIAL DAY IN MAY.
I GUESS I'M CONFUSED HERE AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHEN WE'RE ALL DAY ACTIVITIES PLANNING SESSION.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE ON VETERAN'S DAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
SO THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T SAY VETERAN'S DAY.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT ACTUALLY I'LL BE CLEAR ON DAYS IS COMING UP IN.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THEN THAT'S ALL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, HEY MIKE, LET ME CLEAR IT UP.
I WORKED ON A MEMORIAL DAY COMMITTEE AND I HAD MEMORIAL DAY ON MY BRAIN.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, SO I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT.
UH, BUT VETERANS, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SO VETERAN'S DAY, SO WE NEED IT.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GERALD MAKIN, MAKENA.
SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT A GENERAL, UM, IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? A RETIRED GENERAL SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
OFFICER OR SOME OTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO REPRESENTS KIND OF THE, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE SERGEANT MAJOR SCHNEIDER DOWN FROM THE VIETNAM.
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UH, SENIOR ENLISTED ALSO.UM, ALSO, UM, SO, BUT I THINK BEFORE YOU HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, IT'S WHAT DAY ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE IT ON? CAUSE THAT'S REALLY GOING TO DRIVE.
I THINK A LOT OF WHO CAN BE PRESENT.
ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE ARE OTHER VETERANS ACTIVITIES GOING ON.
UM, THE PROJECT HERE A LITTLE BIT MYSELF.
UM, I MEAN THE MARRIAGE POINT OF VIEW TOO, IS I THINK WE DO DECIDE THE MORE IMPORTANT THING IS, ARE WE HAVING IT, UH, AS AN OPENING DAY CEREMONY FOR IS, IS WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN TAKING CONCENTRATIVE.
CAUSE I THINK I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE ABOUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE ME I'M I LIKE TO BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AS FAR AS IF WE'RE GOING FOR AN OPENING DAY RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY, OR IF WE'RE GOING FOR A VETERAN'S DAY KIND OF THING.
I WAS UP IN MY MIND, I WAS THINKING COMBINED.
BUT, UH, UM, YOU'LL COMBINE DEDICATION AND VETERANS DAY CEREMONY.
IT MAKES IT GO A LITTLE LONGER, BUT IT'S ALL AT ONE TIME RATHER THAN HAVING IT TO GO A COUPLE OF TIMES.
SO WE CAN SAY, UM, VETERANS MEMORIAL, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACTLY ON VETERANS DAY.
THE VETERANS HOLIDAY WEEK IS THAT'S.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THAT THAT WORKED FOR, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET THE MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION.
AND IF YOU WAIT TO VETERANS DAY, UH, I'M CERTAIN THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE BUSY WITH OTHER ACTIVITIES AND MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND COMMENTS, HAVE TWO SEPARATE STATION, HAD THE RIVER OF SAY, OH NO, ONE DAY, ONE DAY COMBINED.
SAME DAY RIBBON CUTTING AND CEREMONY, WHATEVER DAY WOULD YOU SAY ON THE 6TH OF NOVEMBER THOUGH, THE SATURDAY, BEFORE WE OPEN UP, WE HAVE EVERYTHING GO ON AND JUST, WELL, AS OUR, AS OUR VETERAN'S DAY, UM, OBSERVANCE, AND THEN THERE'S COULD ALWAYS JUST BE A SMALL FLAG RAISING DONE ON THE ACTUAL DATE IS STILL DENOTE.
THE FACT IS IT IS VETERAN'S DAY.
SO IT WON'T JUST, WON'T BE THE LARGER
UH, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE I'M UP TO A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE BUSY WITH OTHER ACTIVITIES.
I KNOW LIKE RAY AND HIS YOUNG MARINES AND ALL THEM, THEY'RE ALL BUSY AT OTHER.
UM, YOU'RE DOING OTHER THINGS.
AND SO WAIT, SO PEOPLE AT THE BASE, CAUSE YOU TRY TO REACH PEOPLE ON A BASE TO GET THEM, UM, THE KERNELS AND THINGS.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND ON A THURSDAY MORNING.
UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S A THURSDAY MORNING NOW YOUR FEDERAL EMPLOYEES HELP, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF YOUR ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE OFF.
BUT A LOT OF YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, INCLUDING THE FAMILY MEMBERS, YOU'RE A VETERAN, NOTHING YOU, A REAL VETERAN, YOU WOULD WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON VETERANS DAY.
AND NOT SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT IS JUST MY PERSPECTIVE.
NOT SAYING TO NOT DO SOMETHING ON VETERAN'S DAY, BUT DOES THE RIBBON CUTTING HAVE TO BE ON VETERAN'S DAY? I THINK IS THE QUESTION, THE OPENING OF THE PARK.
WHAT WE'RE WE LOOKING FOR IS MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION, BUT WE WOULDN'T DO SOMETHING ON VETERANS DAY.
UM, SO THAT'S, UH, WE BRING THAT OUT TO DISCUSSION, LOOKING AT, UH, HAVING A RIBBON CUTTING ON THE SIX AND 11, UH, VETERAN'S DAY ACTIVITY ON VETERANS DAY.
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO EXPECT A SMALLER CROWD ON VETERAN'S DAY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DOING OTHER THINGS.
YOU PROBABLY GET MORE PEOPLE ON THAT RIBBON CUTTING DAY.
WELL CLIMATES, I AGREE THAT, YEAH, BUT UH, JUST NOT HAVING IT ON VETERAN'S DAY, IT'S KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE VETERANS.
AND, UH, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH COMPETITION FOR THAT PARTICULAR GRANT AND I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TOM, I'M NOT SAYING NOT HAVING ANYTHING ON VETERAN'S DAY, WE WILL HAVE AN ACTIVITY ON VETERANS DAY, BUT THE ACTUAL DEDICATION PROBABLY WILL DO BEFORE THE DAY BEFORE SO WE CAN GET THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE.
SO THEN THAT BRINGS INTO QUESTION.
WHEN WE DO HAVE VETERANS DAY THING, WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE OTHER THAN A GENERAL, WE HAD A GENERAL ON A DEDICATION DATE.
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE MAYBE A COLONEL OR SOMETHING, UH, ON DANA, THE 11TH BEING ON A THURSDAY, WE'VE ALSO GOT AFMCP
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FAMILY DAY ON FRIDAY, WHICH MEANS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A FOUR-DAY WEEKEND AS WELL.AND SO NOT ONLY IS THERE COMPETITION FOR SENIOR LEADERS TO BE OUT THERE.
I JUST, I KNOW DOING EVENTS ON THE BASE, HE'S BECOME CHALLENGING ON THOSE KINDS OF DYNAMICS.
AND I WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE SEE HOW GREAT THIS PARK IS.
I ALSO KNOW A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WOULD LOVE TO ATTEND CAMP BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITIES IN THEIR OWN AREAS.
AND SO I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH DROPLET AND, AND TOOK CITY.
AND I KNOW THAT THOSE, THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD LOVE TO BE HERE TO CELEBRATE THIS.
THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BECAUSE THEY'LL BE AT THEIR EVENTS.
AND SO I AGREE WITH YOU, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING ON VETERAN'S DAY.
I THINK I'M JUST A FAN OF HAVING A GRAND OPENING OR AN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR PARK DAY THAT IS SOLELY FOCUSED ON JUST AWARENESS AND CELEBRATING ITS COMPLETION AND THEN HAVING THE MORE SOLEMN ACTIVITY, THE TAPS WELL VETERAN'S DAY.
SO, SO, SO WE'RE SAYING IS THE SIX, MAYBE I'M, I'M NOT SURE IT'S SIX PER SIX, HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING DEDICATION, GUEST SPEAKERS AND YOU KNOW, ALL THAT BAND AND ALL THAT.
THEN ON THE 11TH, WE HAVE A VETERANS DAY OBSERVANCE WITH OUR COLOR GUARDS AND, YOU KNOW, FLAG RAISING AND, AND ALL THAT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF THE DAY TOO, BECAUSE MOST OF THE VENDORIZATION MERGER IN THE MORNING, WE ALWAYS DO THAT AS AN EVENING.
WE ALWAYS HAVE IS PROBABLY NOT GOOD.
UH, WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE AS AN EVENING, ESPECIALLY THAT ONE YEAR WHEN IT WAS LIKE 5,000 DEGREES BELOW ZERO WIND WAS BLOWING.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE PRESIDENT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
CAN WE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK LIKE, JUST THEIR THOUGHTS, IF THERE'S ANYTHING, ANY CEREMONIES HAPPENING ON, ON NOVEMBER 11TH? I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND UNLESS IT WAS AFTER, AFTER SCHOOL HOURS.
I MEAN, I WILL BE AT WORK AT SCHOOL.
SO, UM, IF IT'S AFTER, YOU KNOW, THREE 30 OR SOMETIME IN THE EVENING, I CAN BE THERE.
IF IT'S BEFORE THAT, I WON'T BE ABLE TO BE THERE IF IT WAS ON A SATURDAY, LIKE THE SIXTH BEFORE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE IT'S A SATURDAY.
SO I THINK PROBABLY SLOT PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT.
JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW CAUSE THE TYPICAL SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE 11TH DAY, 11TH MONTH, 11TH HOUR, RIGHT.
SO 11 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE AT THE ACTUAL TIME ARE GOING TO BE, AS DANA HAD MENTIONED, IF YOU'RE NOT A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE, LOTS OF PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO BE THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BE AT WORK.
BUT IF THE CEREMONY WAS ON THE 11TH LATER IN THE AFTERNOON OR AN EVENING, THEN CERTAINLY MORE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO COME IF IT WAS ON THE SIXTH, AT LEAST THE GRAND OPENING PRO YOU KNOW, THAT FOUR OR FIVE DAYS PRIOR TO LIKE, YOU'D HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE THAT WOULD WANT TO COME AND VISIT THE PARK AND SEE WHAT IT IS.
UM, BUT I JUST, I THINK THE WORK SCHEDULE, UM, ON THE 11TH IS GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE UNLESS IT'S AFTER, UNLESS IT'S AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK.
YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE HOURS IN THE EVENING.
UM, THE THREE TIMES WE'VE DONE IT WITH TWO IN ONE PLANNED.
UM, IT'S I THINK THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL DO IT IN THE EVENING, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ACTIVITY.
AND I THINK FROM NOW ON, WE'LL BE DOING AN EVENING BECAUSE SITUATIONS LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, UH, PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO BE THERE.
AND, UM, SHOULD WE GET THE MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION? I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IF, I MEAN, LET'S THINK IF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IN, UM, JULY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN JULY.
WE WOULD HAVE HAD A RIBBON CUTTING AND A GRAND OPENING AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE ALSO CELEBRATED IN NOVEMBER ON VETERAN'S DAY.
SO HAVING TWO SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, TWO SEPARATE EVENTS I THINK IS OKAY, BECAUSE AGAIN, IF IT OPENED IN JULY OR AUGUST, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST HAVE IT SET IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE'D WANT TO HAVE AN OFFICIAL DEDICATION AND AN OPENING, AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO DO IT AGAIN IN NOVEMBER.
SO I THINK TWO EVENTS ARE FINE.
THEY JUST HAPPENED TO BE REAL CLOSE.
NOW THE TIMELINE IS COMING BY.
SO THINKING, YOU KNOW, I STILL THINK TWO EVENTS ARE OKAY, BUT CERTAINLY I AGREE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ON VETERAN'S DAY.
AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT JUST BECAUSE OF MY SCHEDULE, BUT I THINK AFTER HOURS OR AFTER THE WORKDAY WOULD END, UM, WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR A LOT MORE PEOPLE TO BE AWARE.
I'D SAY WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE IT THAT WAY.
UM, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THERE, MISS DONNA, JUST GIVE YOU MY 2 CENTS.
I THINK THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE TO DO A RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY OPENING FOR THE, UH, FOR THE MEMORIAL, THE SATURDAY PRIOR.
UM, BUT I, I WOULD PROBABLY BE PRETTY STEADFAST IN SAYING, I THINK THAT OUR EVENT WOULD HAVE, WOULD NEED TO BE ON THAT DAY TIME.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SHELL COMMENTS RATHER,
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THANK YOU.IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, DUE TO, UH, SOME OTHER REGIONAL MEETINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING ME AND, UM, MY COMMENTS.
UM, I, I DO BELIEVE, UM, AS A MISSTATE ADHERENCE, I TRULY BELIEVE THE EVENT SHOULD BE ALL IN ONE DAY.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S, UH, TRULY ENCOMPASSING THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THIS BOARD AND COMMISSION HAS PUT INTO, UH, UH, INTO THIS MEMORIAL, THAT CITY AS A WHOLE, UM, AND THE MILITARY COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
UM, IF WE'RE TRULY GOING TO MAKE THIS MEMORIAL, ALL IT CAN BE WITHIN THE CITY AND THE REGION.
UM, I THINK WE SHOWCASE IT ALL IN ONE DAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS THEY STATED, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
UH, AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT, UM, WE START THAT PLANNING PROCESS.
NOW WE GET THE, SAVE THE DATE OUT THERE.
WE START LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE, THE BIGGEST, UH, AND THE BEST, UH, EVENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO PUT ON YOUR, YOUR CALENDAR TO BE AT.
UH, WE START GETTING SOME, UH, SOME VIP, SOME DIGNITARIES, UH, TO ATTEND.
UM, AND I THINK, UH, AGAIN WITH THOSE NAMES, UH, WITH THE, WITH THAT DATE AND TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE TO BE THERE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE A, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.
UM, AS YOU GET CLOSE TO VETERANS DAY, UM, UH, ANY TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK EVENTS, IT'S GOING TO, UH, IT'S GOING TO GET DARK SOONER.
UM, AND PLUS IT'S NOVEMBER, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE COLD OUT.
UM, SO AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PLANNING PROCESS, DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT AWARE.
UM, BUT NO, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOING BE HUGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I, I'M DEFINITELY ALL IN FAVOR OF HAVING IT ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY.
I KNOW IN TYPICAL VETERAN'S DAYS, UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM OF MAKING IT TO SEVERAL EVENTS IN THE REGION.
UM, AND I, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO THAT AS WELL.
UH, SO THAT, UH, THAT, UH, THE, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AND, AND, UH, AND FEELINGS ON THE MATTER.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR, UM, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MR. SHAW'S BACKGROUND, BUT FOUR OF THE FIVE IN OUR AUDIENCE TODAY ARE VETERANS.
I HAVE A VERY LONG FAMILY HISTORY.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE SHOULD BE MAKING A MOTION AND VOTING.
IS THAT ACCURATE? IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE THERE, IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, BUT THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT'S THE MOTION.
UM, MOTION IS I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE VOTE ON, WHETHER WE HAVE TWO EVENTS THE SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 6TH AND NOVEMBER 11TH, OR ONE EVENT ON NOVEMBER 11TH, THAT'S THE MOTION.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT A YEAR, YOUR NAME SO I CAN REPHRASE.
UM, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE EVENTS, ONE THAT CELEBRATES THE OPENING OF THE EVENT OR THE LOCATION, AND A SECOND ONE THAT REPRESENTS A SONG OF SOLOMON NYMITY OF THE DAY.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WHAT'D SHE SAY IS OKAY.
UM, SO IT'S BEEN MOTION AND SECOND, LET'S DO A QUICK, UM, VOICE VOTE ON, UM, APPROVAL.
WHAT DAY IS THE 6TH OF NOVEMBER? SATURDAY.
I THINK, UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH TWO DAYS.
THE SECTOR'S GOING TO BE DEDICATION DAY WHERE WE DEDICATED THE VIP'S AND SO FORTH, COME IN AND, UH, AND CELEBRATE WHAT IS, AND THEN ON VETERAN'S DAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ACTIVITY.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ON THE FLAG RAISING, UM, MAYBE WE GET THE HUBER HEIGHTS BAND OR SOMEONE TO PLAY FOR US.
UM, WE HAVE TO WORK ALL THAT OUT.
WE CAN HAVE A FEW DAYS, WE NEED THE BETA.
SO, SO, SO TWO DAYS, UM, I PERSONALLY WOULD'VE WENT, WE WENT ONE DAY, BUT, UM, I VOTED SO, UM, SO THAT'S THAT.
CAN WE MAKE A SUGGESTION THOUGH, BECAUSE I KNOW SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE DID TALK TO THEIR CONNECTIONS WITH LOCAL COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES THAT IF THEY CAN BUILD THAT VIP LIST YES, DEFINITELY HELP THIS AND THIS COUNCIL OR THIS COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DUPLICATE OUTREACH EFFORTS, BUT ALSO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE IT DOES REPRESENT THE LARGEST PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
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IT WAS ALLUDED TO, AND I, AND I WANTED TO COME IN AND ADDRESS THAT AS THE AT-LARGE MEMBER FOR THE DAYTON FIRST-YEAR SUBURBS.THAT'S THE 12 COMMUNITIES THAT SURROUND THE CITY OF DAYTON.
I HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY MANAGERS, UH, TOWNSHIP ADMINISTRATORS, UH, AND A LOT OF THE MAYORS, UH, WITHIN THE REGION.
UM, AS SOON AS THIS COMMISSION, UH, THROUGH A CITY ADMINISTRATION PUTS IT TOGETHER, SOME OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CIRCULATE THAT OUT, UH, THAT WILL GO OUT TO THOSE, UH, DIRECT INDIVIDUALS.
AND THEN THAT WILL SPIDER OUT, UH, THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
UM, I'M GOING TO BE HOSTING, UM, UH, JOINTLY WITH, UH, NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AND TIP STRATEGIES, A REGIONAL CONFERENCE, UH, WE'RE INDIVIDUALS FROM JOBS, OHIO, DAYTON DEVELOPMENT, COALITION, AND VRP, UM, PREMIER HEALTH, A LOT OF OTHER LARGE ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE ATTENDING.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO PUT THAT INFORMATION ON THE TABLES AND IN THE HANDS OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AT THE TIME.
UM, SO THAT, AGAIN, WE CAN GET THAT, SAVE THE DATE INFORMATION OUT THERE, PUT THAT ON THEIR CALENDARS AS WELL.
UM, AND MY PERSONAL OPINION, IT WOULD ALSO BE BENEFICIAL TO GET THIS ON OUR CITY APP, UM, AND OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AS, UH, AS I BELIEVE IT WAS STATED AS THE SOONER WE CAN GET THAT DATE OUT THERE, PEOPLE CAN PLUG THAT IN AND KNOW WHERE THE BEST EVENTS ARE GOING TO BE HELD THAT WEEK.
UM, I, UM, DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, MR. MAYOR, IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO START GETTING THE DATE TIMES AND SALARIES ON THE SIXTH, DO WE HAVE A PROPOSED TIME, FOUR TO SIX? ANYBODY SAY 11 O'CLOCK 10? I WAS GOING TO SAY 11 O'CLOCK
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SATURDAY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SATURDAY.
WE HAVE THE BAND AND YEAH, THAT MADE IT IN THE BAND BE THERE BY 11 O'CLOCK.
CAN YOU GIVE US, UM, JUST TO SEE PROBABLY MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LATER? YEAH.
IS IT THERE? WE'VE GOT TO BRING THE TEAMS HERE.
SO HOW FAR THEY GO LATE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAMES AND THEY WERE GETTING PROBABLY CLOSE TO PLAY OFF TIME AND THEY MIGHT STILL DO DIFFERENT FESTIVALS AROUND ON SATURDAY MORNINGS.
SO I'LL JUST HAVE TO CHECK THEIR SCHEDULE SOMETIME LATER, LATER ST.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN CAN'T OKAY.
WHAT ARE WE GOING IN FRONT OF? LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.
UM, WE LAID OUT A PROCEDURE THAT I NEEDED PEOPLE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THINGS, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYONE TO RELEASE IT.
I'LL TAKE THE LEAD ON THE INVITATIONS AND THE PROTOCOL LIST.
SO WE'VE GOT INVITATION PROTOCOL.
WHAT DO WE NEED NOW? UM, YOU NEED SOMEONE TO LOOK AT GETTING THE BAN, UH, OR, OR SOME TYPE OF MUSICAL SITUATION.
UM, DO I HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MARCHING FOR THE BAND FROM THE BASE OR THE BAND FROM HERE? UH, YES.
WHICH ONE WOULD ONE WE CAN GET
SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE ONLY PERSON I KNOW THAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE BATES, MR. GANG, DO YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE FLIGHT IN ANY CAPACITY IS DOING IN-PERSON PERFORMANCES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY DRIVE WHETHER THAT REQUEST CAN BE FULFILLED AS WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ACTUALLY EVEN FIDDLING, BUT THERE WAS A LADY THAT JEFF WAS WORKING WITH OUT AT THE BASE.
I HAVE HER INFORMATION, UM, BUT I'LL LET VINCE CHECK.
AND THEN, UM, YOU GET BACK WITH US AND IF I NEED I'LL TALK TO HER, BUT I WOULD SAY WE RECENTLY ATTENDED A, A
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY DISCONTINUED OR THE AIR FORCE MARATHON SINCE THEN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN
UM, I DIDN'T MEAN, I DIDN'T MEAN IF YOU GET UP.
SO, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE BAND OF FLIGHT, WHAT I WILL NEED TO KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, DO YOU, WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE BAND, THE BUGLER, A SINGER,
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UM, BECAUSE THAT WILL DEPEND ON THEIR AVAILABILITY AS WELL.CAUSE I CAN EASILY PUT THE REQUEST IN FOR IT AND IT'S BETTER TO PUT THE REQUEST IN NOW THAN IT IS TO WAIT A MONTH LATER.
I WOULD LIKE ME PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE THE BAND TO PLAY, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL ANTHEMS AND OTHER MILITARY TYPE STUFF, MAYBE A, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT SONGS, UH, FOR ALL OF THE SERVICES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
JUST THE MUSIC THAT I'M INTERESTED IN RIGHT NOW.
OTHERS MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, ANY KIND OF GOOD IDEA.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT.
AND SO I'LL WORK WITH DANA TO WHAT I'M AFTER I CALLED THE OPERATIONS CHIEF.
AND LET HER KNOW, AND THEN, UM, I CAN FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK OR DANICA FILL IT OUT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
BECAUSE THEY DO BOOK OUT PRETTY FAR.
AND DANA WANTS YOU TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS.
SO WE GOT PROTOCOL, WE'VE GOT MUSIC NOW REACHING OUT TO THE PERSON, THE GUEST SPEAKER.
UM, I DO, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL THAT GENERAL, I HATE TO PUT THIS ON YOU.
NO, ACTUALLY I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO REACH OUT TO OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS AT THE COMMAND.
NOW I WILL TELL YOU MOST OF THE TIME THE COMMAND DOES NOT DO INSTALLATION OR DOESN'T DO LOCAL SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCATED HERE AND IT GIVES PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
AND SO I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO REACH OUT TO OUR TOP LEADERSHIP AND JUST SEE IF ANY OF THEM HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE COMMAND BUILDING AND START THERE AND MOVE BACKWARDS.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE SIXTH AND WE'RE NOT ON THE 11TH.
I THINK WE HAVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH GETTING PEOPLE INTERESTED IN OUT HERE, WHO WE HAVE, LIKE LIVING IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY THAT MAY REPRESENT LEADERSHIP.
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KNOW A COUPLE OF COLONELS, BUT UM, NO GENERALS THAT LIVE IN HUBER.
UM, MOST OF MY IN GREEN COUNTY BEAVER CREEK, THE LADY, A COUPLE OF THREE STARS OUT THERE, MARGARET, SHE LIVES IN TEXAS.
HE'S DOWN THERE TO STEP IN MORE.
UM, AND HE AND LESLIE OFTEN DOING COMMUNITY THINGS, GUYS YOU'LL END UP IN THE AREA.
DID HE MOVE GENERAL? ROSEO I BELIEVE HE HAS GONE.
SO I BELIEVE, YEAH, I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THE OTHER ONE.
WHAT, SO YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT OKAY.
DANA HAD TO PAY TO PUT OUT ON YOU.
SO WE HAVE A BAND PROTOCOL LEADER.
UM, WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED? UM, YEAH, AGENDA.
UM, I CAN THROW SOMETHING TOGETHER AND PASS IT OUT AND LET EVERYBODY SEE IT.
AND DANA, YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT IT MAKES SENSE ON THAT.
HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO RELY ON LIKE THE COMMUNITY TO PLAY THE DIFFERENT ROLES? DO WE WANT TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMISSION AS POSSIBLE TO KIND OF PLAY THOSE ROLES, UM, FOR THE DEDICATION FOR YOUR DEDICATION PROPERLY? WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? UM, YOU'RE GOING TO ENLIST THE HELP OF SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
I WAS GOING TO SEE WHO WE COULD GET INTO TO BE RPA.
WELL, YES, THERE'S A BIG THING.
SO YOU ONLY GET ONE TIME TO DO THIS, SO MAKE IT BIG AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WHAT, WHAT WERE YOU MISSING? UM, GETTING THE, UM, ONCE WE GET ALL THIS PACKAGED UP THE PROCESS TO GET IT TO SOCIAL MEDIA, REGULAR MEDIA, SO ON AND SO FORTH AND ALSO ON THE BACK END, THE END, THE MEDIA.
I, UM, MR. SHAW WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, ONCE HE PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING, IF YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO PASS OUT TO HIS CAR AND I THINK THE MIRROR IS GOING TO PASS SOME STUFF OUT.
SO WE NEED YOU TO DO IS JUST GET IT TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN, WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM AT THE CITY LEVEL WHO WILL DO THE PUSH, THE MEDIA RELEASE OUT AND FOLLOW UP ON IT AND HELP US COORDINATE.
SO WHAT WE NEED IS THE AGENDA.
AND, UM, SOME WORDS, LIKE I SAY, I CAN DO THE AGENDA AND MAYBE I TRY TO DO SOME WORDS AND, UM, GIVE ME A COUPLE OF DAYS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN TOMORROW.
BUT, UH, I SAID BY MONDAY I SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING, A ROUGH DRAFT OF SOMETHING I'LL PASS
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OUT EVERY MORNING ON MONDAY, I THINK, JUST TO START SAY WHAT'S OUR START TIME.CAUSE IT'LL BE NOVEMBER BEFORE YOU KNEW IT.
SO, UM, SO I DO AGENDA AND ALL THAT.
I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH FOR, TO START COMMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE STARTED TO GOING DOWN, WHEN YOU START, EVERYBODY STARTED PUTTING IN ON IT.
AND I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE IT BY MID SEPTEMBER, HAVE SOMETHING READY TO GO.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MID SEPTEMBER? I NEED A CALENDAR.
I JUST LIKE TO KIND OF LIKE MAKE LITTLE COMMENTS, JUST MAYBE IS I'M ALWAYS A PLAN, A PLAN B GUY.
UM, YOU CAN'T FIND A GENERAL, I'M SURE THERE MIGHT BE SOME DECORATED VETERANS HERE THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS LOCALLY SERVING LATELY.
YOU MIGHT BE NICE TO HEAR FROM SOME OF THEM, MYSELF.
THAT'S WHAT I, I KIND OF LIKE TO SEE.
SO, BUT YOUR DEAL, BUT I THINK GENERALS ARE GREAT, MAN, BUT THEY'RE NOT LIKE AROUND HERE.
AND ANOTHER IS LIKE THE BAND THING.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT.
IF EVENTS CAN DO IT, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A PLAN B WITH THAT RIGHT NOW THAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING.
W I'M GONNA LOOK AT THE MIRROR AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT, BUT IF THAT DOESN'T PAN OUT.
O'CLOCK WE DIDN'T, WE DECIDE ON 11.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE LOOK AT STARTING THE, UH, CELEBRATION ON THE STAKES AT 11:00 AM.
WHAT ABOUT 12, UM, 11 OR 12? UH, IS 11 BETTER? OR IS 12 BETTER? IT'S A SATURDAY.
SO I THINK 11 WORKS FINE TENTATIVELY, UM, GIVEN TIME TO GO CHECK THE ATHLETIC SCHEDULES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO CONFIRM BEFORE IT'S RELEASED.
SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, START TO CELEBRATION ON THE 6TH OF NOVEMBER AT 11:00 AM.
IT'S 11 O'CLOCK ON THE SIX MILLIGRAM BUILDING.
IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING SOLIDIFIED, ARE WE ABLE TO GET SOME MARKETING DONE? UH, SO THAT, UM, AT THE MARROW AS A WHOLE ON SEPTEMBER A MONTH THAT WE CAN GO IN AND SO WE COULD HAVE A POSTER PUT UP WITH THAT NICE GRAPHIC ON IT AND TALK ABOUT THE OPENING OF IT.
SO WE START SOCIALIZING THAT TO A LARGE GROUP THAT COMES IN.
AND CAN WE GET IT PUT ON LIKE THE, THE ELECTRONIC SLIDE AT THE, AT THE ROSE AND UP ON BRAND PIKE AND DATA CLOUD PARK, WHETHER IT'S THAT PARTICULAR FILE, BUT I'M SURE LWT GOES TO THE FILE PUT IN THE INDIVIDUAL FILE.
SO MARYGOLD FESTIVALS ON THE 11TH OF SEPTEMBER.
OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A FINISHED PRODUCT BY THE 11TH.
SO SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, THE FINISHED PRODUCT, PROBABLY BY THE SEVENTH TO GET TIME TO PREPARE MATERIALS, TO HAVE OUT, IF NOTHING ELSE JUST TO YOU'D HAVE TO BE APPROVED.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE FINISHED BEFORE THE 11 ANYBODY DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT AGENDA AND ALL THAT STUFF.
UM, I'LL BE AT THE VA ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND 12TH FORD AIR PATRIOT SALUTE.
SO THAT WILL BE A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO HAND OUT, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEMORIAL AS WELL.
SO FOR SEPTEMBER 11, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE MEAT, ABOUT THE SIX DEDICATION.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE ON THERE.
NOW WILL THERE BE A SECOND THING THAT LAYS OUT EVEN MORE DETAIL? OKAY.
SO ALL WE NEED IS THAT ONE, YOU JUST WANT BASICALLY A SAVE THE DATE FOR THEM SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING, WHY THEY'RE GOING AND SOME THINGS TO LOOK FOR.
BUT AN AGENDA, WE WILL HAVE AN AGENDA JUST FOR THE PASS AROUND AND FOR US UNTIL OKAY.
DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER? NO AGENDA STAYS FINAL UNTIL 10 MINUTES BEFORE YOU WALK ON THE STAGE AND THEN ISN'T THAT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO HAVE, WHILE YOU'RE OUT THERE, THAT'S A MILITARY.
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AND WINDY, SO IT'S LIKE A PLAN.SHE MAY MODIFY THE, THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S HURRY UP AND WAIT, THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
I, UH, AMI DOESN'T LIKE THAT, BUT OKAY.
WE'RE GONNA PASS OUT A LETTER.
I'M RESPONSIBLE TO GET US STARTED.
I, ANYTHING ELSE? FOUR TO SIX AND THE 11TH, NOT 11.
IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN A SIX BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE US TERMINAL CITY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ANOTHER SPEAKER, UM, A MILITARY TYPE.
MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THE SENIOR ENLISTED OR, UM, MAYBE WE GET JEFF TO COME SPEAK FOR US, OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND MOVE FORWARD.
BUT, UH, UM, START THINKING ABOUT THAT AND, AND I'LL MAYBE PASS OUT SOMETHING TOWARDS THAT WHEN I PASS OUT THE ONE TO SIX AND HERE'S, HERE'S MY OTHER THING.
AND THIS IS PROBABLY ME OVERTHINKING THINGS, GIVEN THE CURRENT CLIMATE AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I KNOW OUR VETERANS ARE HAVING BECAUSE OF ONGOING GEOPOLITICAL STUFF.
UM, I DO THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO BE SOLEMN ON THE 11TH AND, AND, UM, COGNIZANT OF HOW SOME INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BE FEELING ON THAT DAY.
AND I, AND I, AND SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I THINK CELEBRATING THE CELEBRATION FROM THAT OBSERVANCE IS IMPORTANT.
WE WILL MAKE THAT CELEBRATION OR THAT PARTICULAR ACTIVITY MORE SOLEMN.
AND, UM, WE WON'T NEED A BAND.
WE JUST NEED A GOOD TRUMPETER, UH, WITH TAPS AND WE PUT THAT IN TOGETHER TOO.
UM, AND I'LL PASS IT AROUND TO EVERYONE AND WE CAN START WORKING AT, UM, OKAY.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE THAT PRETTY MUCH UNDER CONTROL.
UM, AND WHEN I GET MY INFORMATION OUT, THEN WE START MOVING STUFF AROUND AND, AND GETTING EVERYBODY TUNED UP AND MOVE FORWARD.
IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT, I'M READY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SUBJECT.
AND JUST LOOKING AT THOMAS CLOUD PARK AND YEAH.
ADDING VETERAN'S MEMORIAL TO IT.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS ARC CHANGED IT.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE WHERE WE ASK SOMEONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT, CAN WE READ, I WANT TO SAY EVERY NAME, BUT ADD VETERAN'S MEMORIAL TO THOMAS EIGHT CLOUD PARK AND MAKE IT THOMAS AID CLOUD, UH, VETERANS VETERANS IN MEMORIAL PARK, A VETERAN, LET ME READ MY LAP.
THOMAS CLOUD VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.
UM, NOW I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUE ABOUT IT HAD TO BE HIS NAME, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
BUT ADDING VETERAN'S MEMORIAL NOW, SOMEONE MENTIONED, UH, ASKED HIM IF HE WAS A VETERAN.
UM, BUT THEY WERE SAYING THAT MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT THOMAS A CLOUD AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, BUT TO ME THAT'S TOO MUCH.
UM, ANY COMMENTS I JUST HAD THE SAME THOUGHT ON WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS A VETERAN.
IS THAT GOING TO BE A BIT CONFUSING THE WAY THAT READS, IF HE'S NOT A VETERAN, I THINK, OR MAYBE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.
SO VINCE KING VETERAN, AS WELL AS THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD CHAIR.
SO HERE'S WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID AT, UH, KITTY HAWK PARK.
UM, THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS LOCATED INSIDE THOMAS CALLED PARK.
SO WHENEVER WE REFER TO IT, YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, THE BENDERS MEMORIAL PARK AT THOMAS COUNTY PARK, THOMAS CLOUD PARKS, OFFICIAL NAME IS THOMAS A CLOUD PARK MEMORIAL PARK.
SO IT'S ALREADY IN MEMORIAL PARK.
THERE'S A MEMORIAL AREA ON THE BACKSIDE OR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE.
SO IF YOU WERE TO CHANGE IT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE ENTIRE PARK IS NOW A VETERAN'S PARK, WHICH IS WHAT THE CASE IS.
NOW I WOULD RECOMMEND WE JUST KEEP IT AS IS, AND WE MAKE A SIGN.
WE CAN MAKE, BUILD A SIGN IN THE FRONT THAT SAID INDIRECTLY PEOPLE WHERE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS, BUT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND CHANGING THE NAME.
THAT NAME HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER WELL, I'M 43.
SO I THINK IT'S BEEN THERE LONGER THAN I HAVE.
UM, SO BECOMING, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE RECEIVED
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IT FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY.SO I WOULD LEAVE IT AS IS THE VETERAN MEMORIAL PARK AT THOMAS CLOUD PARK.
UM, YOU CAN GIVE THAT AREA A NAME, JUST LIKE WE DID, UM, KITTY HAWK PARK, WHICH WE HAVE FLIER FIELD AT KITTY HUNTING PARK AND FLATTER FIELD SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATE THE DOG PARK.
BUT THE REST OF THE AREA IS KITTY IN AN FLIER FIELD IS KITTY HAWK PARK.
SEARCH BASED ON WHAT HIS RATES.
AND THAT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO DO THAT, SO, OKAY.
WELL, MY POINT IS I WANT THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE AND STANDING UP FRONT, BUT SCENARIO I'M SEEING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE KEEP IT THOMAS CLOUD PARK, PUT A LITTLE SIGN IN VETERAN'S MEMORIAL.
DOES THAT GIVE IT THE DATE IT NEEDS OR, YEAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MORE.
I MEAN, I WOULD LOOK AT, UM, WHAT IS THAT PART? UM, DELPO YES.
UM, NO, THEY DIDN'T NAME THAT VETERANS PART.
DID THEY? I MEAN, WHEN I WOULD SAY SPECIFICALLY THAT WHEN I BUILT AN AMENITY AND ONCE THE WORD GETS OUT, THEN ABOUT THAT AMENITY, THEN IT BECOMES NO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUILD THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, I'M GONNA START A VETERANS MEMORIAL PEOPLE.
AREN'T GOING TO KNOW THAT IT'S THERE.
ONCE THE WORD GETS OUT, WE CAN PUT A SIGN IN THE FRONT THAT SAYS IT.
BUT I WOULD ALSO THINK ABOUT NAMING THAT AREA AS WELL, AND THEN PUTTING A SIGN UP FRONT, DIRECTING PEOPLE TO THE BACK.
SO THOMAS A CLOUD PARK, UH, BUT WE HAVE THE MEMORIAL INSIDE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE IT IN MY MIND HERE.
KITTY HAWK, AGAIN, YOU SAID IT'S KITTY HAWK AND THERE'S SOMETHING INSIDE KITTY HAWK.
SO CAN YOU HAVE PARK IS, UM, IT'S A LARGE AREA, RIGHT? SO IT'S GOT A WALKING PATH AND THEN IT'S GOT A DOG PARK.
THE DOG PARK ITSELF IS FLATTERING FIELD.
SO WHENEVER WE MENTIONED FLYER FIELD, WE SAY FLYER FIELD AT KITTY HAWK PARK RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WENT OUT TO PEOPLE, LET THEM KNOW THAT FLOWER FIELD WAS IN KITTY HAWK PARK? UH, SO ONCE, SO LET ME GO BACK HISTORY HERE.
UM, SO WHEN THE DOG PARK WAS FINISHED AND THEY HAD THE GRAND OPENING, THEY HAD A SIGN ALREADY INSTALLED AND THE SIGN SAID, UH, FLYER FIELD.
AND IT GAVE SOME OF INFORMATION AS WELL.
SO WHEN THE WORD STARTS GETTING OUT, ESPECIALLY THROUGH, UH, OUR GRAND OPENING, THE NEWS AND EVERYTHING, WE TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT FLYER FIELD AT KITTY HAWK PARK.
WE, WE TALKED, UM, I THINK WE HAVE NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO HAVE JERRY, I THINK KIND OF RESEARCHED.
AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, MONTGOMERY COUNTY DEEDED OVER THE PARK TO HEBER HEIGHTS YEARS AGO.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO DEED RESTRICTIONS OR ANYTHING INVOLVED ILLEGALLY THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CHANGE THE NAME, BUT GUMBY COUNTY MIGHT'VE SAID HERE, YOU CAN HAVE THIS PARK, YOU KNOW, FOR $10, IF THAT'S WHAT THE GAZE WAS, BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE NAME.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THOMAS A CLOUD MEMORIAL PARK.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT AND THAT TRANSACTION WHEN CLOUD PARK WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT LEGALLY BOUND BY JUST EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE THEN I THINK, UM, AND, AND TO SOLVE.
AND IF THAT IS AN ISSUE, CERTAINLY THE WAY TO SOLVE THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT VINCE ADMISSIONED, UH, SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, THE, HE RIDES THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AT TOM TODD PARK.
SO THERE'S WAYS TO GET AROUND THAT.
BUT, BUT IN TERMS OF EVEN THINKING ABOUT CHANGING THE WAY THAT, THAT PARK OFFICIAL NAME, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANY RESTRICTIONS.
AND, AND WHEN THAT PROPERTY THAT LANDED, THAT DEED WAS, WAS HANDED OVER TO THE CITY, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEARED UP FIRST.
AND I REMEMBER IT WAS WHEN WE TALKED, UM, TONY'S GOING TO GET JERRY, UH, YOU KNOW, LUCY ATTORNEY TO START DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, FIND THAT OUT.
UH, I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK IF THAT'S BEEN FOUND OUT YET OR NOT, AND I WILL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS EXPEDITED, UM, TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN EVEN LEGALLY DO SOMETHING.
SO, UM, SO WAITING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FROM THE ATTORNEY, UM, PERHAPS WE COULD TABLE THIS UNTIL, UH, YOU GET SOME FEEDBACK AND YEAH,
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I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD CAUSE WE JUST NEED TO KNOW.BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU'RE MAKING A DECISION WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO THEN THE NEXT STEP TO THAT, ONCE WE HAVE THAT ANSWER IS TO BRING YOUR SUGGESTION TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE PARK.
AND THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THAT UP TO COUNCIL AS THE NEXT FACE.
SO IF THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE PARK, YOU WOULD COME TO US WITH THE JUSTIFICATION.
AND I WOULD SAY BASED ON HOW WE WROTE EVERYTHING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD JUSTIFICATION WHY THE NAMES SHOULD BE CHANGED BECAUSE THOMAS CLOUD HAS DID A LOT OF THINGS FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND WE RESIDE IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
SO HIS NAME WOULD STILL BE THERE.
HIS NAME WOULD STILL BE THERE.
SO, BUT DO THE NAME CHANGE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU ALL ARE SUGGESTING MEMORIAL IS ALREADY THERE, SO I'LL ADD IN HIS VETERANS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS RENT AND VETERANS, RIGHT.
AND INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENTS, IF HE WASN'T A VETERAN, IT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE CONFUSING AND IT GOES BACK TO YEAH.
SO THERE'S A WAY WE CAN PHRASE THIS, THE RIGHT.
AND I WOULD ALSO NOT FORGET THAT THERE'S A MEMORIAL, A MEMORIAL AREA.
ARE WE ALREADY IN THE BACK AS WELL? SO, BUT I'M NOT SAYING NO.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE THE MAIN, ONCE WE KNOW THAT ANSWER, AND ONCE YOU ALL DECIDE, THEN YOU ALL WILL COME TO US AND BRING US THAT SUGGESTION.
THEN THIS BOARD WILL TALK ABOUT IT AS WELL.
PART OF THIS IS SO THAT WE CAN FIND IT SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT WE'LL KNOW THAT IT'S THERE.
IF I UNDERSTAND THIS, THERE ARE SIGNS THAT ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADS, THAT DIRECTIONAL SIGNS THAT TELL YOU WHAT'S COMING UP AND STUFF.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO HAVE THEM? CAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY IMPACTING THE CHANGING OF THE NAME OF THE PARK AND RESTRUCTURING THAT WHOLE THING, BUT IT STILL PROVIDES THAT, HEY, YOU'RE COMING UP ON THE HUBER HEIGHTS, VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK IT'S RIGHT.
AND THEN ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE TO GO IN THERE, WHICH I ALSO THINK IT WOULD HELP HIGHLIGHT IT, UM, AND, AND BRING ATTENTION TO IT.
I AGREE WITH HER THAT WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME OF ANYTHING.
ALL WE NEED IS SEPARATE SIGNAGE.
UPPER ROAD AND AT THE ENTRANCE AND MAYBE A SMALL SIGN WITH ARROWS OR SOMETHING, SHOWING PEOPLE THE WAY BACK THERE, THE, UH, CHANGING THE NAME OF THE WHOLE PARK THAT APPEARS TO BE, IT'S STILL GONNA BE, UH, A LONG PROCESS AND MAYBE NOT WORK AT ALL.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY OR REQUIRED.
I THINK ALL WE NEED IS OUR SEPARATE SIGNAGE OUT ON THE ROAD.
AND WITH SOME ARROWS, SOME SMALL SIGNS DIRECTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE PARK TO GET BACK TO IT.
WELL, IT, BUT THOSE SMALL SIGNS TO ME JUST DON'T CUT IT.
I MEAN, I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING, MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT A TOO BIG, MAYBE I NEED TO STEP BACK.
AND, UM, BECAUSE TO ME, LOS ANGELES, ARROWS POINTING TO IT, JUST TO JUSTIFY IT TO ME.
I MEAN, IT MAKES ME, IT DOES FOR ME YES.
IN ONCE THEY MAKE THAT LEFT-HAND TURN OR A RIGHT-HAND TURN, IT'S A FARMER'S CLOUD PARK.
THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THIS THING.
WELL, WHAT'S THE HECK IS THAT THING? THAT'S THE MEMORIAL, YOU KNOW, UH, VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, THE HEART OF THIS SHOCKED, WELL FIELDS IN THE HARDWARE THAT FED HER, HIS SELF.
SO YOU'RE SAYING TOM, THAT YOU AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE VETERANS SHOULD BE HEAD OF TED NATE.
I KNOW WHAT YOU STAY BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, YOU GOT TO CHECK TO SEE THERE'S A PROCESS.
SO EVEN IF WE ALL AGREE TONIGHT, WE WANT TO CHANGE THE NAME.
WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE PROPOSAL TO PARKS AND REC PARKS AND REC HAS PRESENTED THAT PROPOSAL TO CITY COMMISSION.
AND THEY MAY SAY, NO, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IF WE HAD OUR OWN SEPARATE ASSIGNMENT, I'M KINDA GETTING WITH THEM.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD FIX THE FALL.
BUT AS FAR AS TONIGHT GOES, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RESOLVED BECAUSE WE DON'T, NO WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT BECAUSE THE GUY GET THE INFORMATION THAT THE MAYOR IS LOOKING AT.
BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU I'M ON THIS, LIKE A PIT BULL.
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THE, UH, WHEN YOU TURN THIS DOWN, WHAT'S, WHAT'S MY AGREED COURSE WHEN YOU TURN IT, WHEN WE TURN IT DOWN, I ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.SO, AND, AND, AND LET ME TELL YOU FROM A, FROM A PARKS AND REC BOARD PERSPECTIVE, UM, WE'RE OPEN.
WE'RE COMPLETELY OPEN, BUT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT FROM A BIGGER PERSPECTIVE AND PART SYSTEM PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
SO, UM, SO ONCE WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION, WE MAY SAY, HEY, LET'S HAVE A, LET'S HAVE A GET TOGETHER WITH, YOU KNOW, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE HOW, SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A NUMBER OF, UM, ENGLISH, UH, CO UH, COURSE OF ACTIONS.
SO, UM, SO LET'S SEE, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ALL DECIDE OR, AND YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND AND SUGGEST I'M OPEN TO RECEIVING IT NOW, WILL IT BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO? I JUST DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT SAYING NO, BECAUSE I CAN, THE BOARD CAN ALWAYS GET OVERWRITTEN BY COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL.
SEE, WE MAKE, WE DO THE SAME THING THAT YOU DO.
WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARK.
SO YOU BRING IT TO US AND THEN I CAN GO RIGHT HERE AND HE CAN SAY, YEAH, NO VANS.
AND THEN, OKAY, THAT'S ABOVE MY HANDS, BUT I HAD TO TAKE IT FROM A, WE'VE GOT TO FOLLOW YOUR PROCESS AND NO PROBLEM ABOUT NOT, NOT TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE OTHER LANE.
WE'LL FOLLOW THE PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
START REALLY DOUBLE DOWN HERE FOR JUST A SEC.
I MEAN, WE HAVE KITTY, KITTY OUT PARK PARK, ANYBODY KNOW THE NAME OF THE DOG PARK.
IT'S A DOG PARK, RIGHT? I KNOW YOU DO.
I'VE HEARD THREE OTHER ONES A DAY.
ALL I'M SAYING IS IT'S THE DOG PARK.
SOONER OR LATER, IF THIS THING IS WHAT IT IS AND WOULD WANT IT TO BE, IT WILL BE THE MORAL VETERAN'S PARK.
AND AT CLOUD BAR, IT WILL BE THAT IT WILL BE WHAT IT IS.
AND IT BECOMES, WE BUILT CLOUD PARK AS IT'S BEEN A WHOLE BIG COMMUNITY AND WE'VE TAKEN IT OVER SO MANY YEARS AGO.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CLOUD PARK HAS BEEN A PLAYGROUND FOR ME.
IT'S BEEN SO MANY OTHER THINGS TORE THAT WHEN SAY WHAT THAT IS.
MODE OF KITTY HAWK PARK WAS NOTHING.
WHEN I WAS A KID THAT WAS A LITTLE PLAYGROUND.
I LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM IT.
TO ME, YOU CALL IT FLOWER PARKS, WHICH IS STILL THE DOG PARK.
I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY THAT, I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THINGS.
YOU CAN NAME THEM AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO.
IT'S GOING TO BE VETERANS MORAL FOR PEOPLE TO GO THERE AND WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT AS A COMMUNITY, AS A, AS A DESTINATION PLACE.
PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO YOU GOOGLE THINGS.
THESE DAYS IS LET'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGNS AND STUFF.
PEOPLE DON'T WORK THAT WAY AS WE GET EVEN MORE ADVANCED THAN BARS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING THIS ONE TOO, SINCE IT WAS ADVOCATED THAT WE CAN RENAME WHAT WE WANT, IT'S GOING TO BECOME WHAT IT IS.
AND THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO BE SO SORRY.
SO ONE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, SO ONE THING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADD SOME TECHNOLOGY TO OUR PARTS.
SO THAT WAY, IF YOU DRIVE INTO A PLACE LIKE, UM, THOMAS CLOUD PARK, ONCE YOU PASS A CERTAIN POINT, YOUR PHONE WILL GET A PING WITH A MAP OF SOME SORT, RIGHT? AND THEN IT WILL SAY, UM, THIS, THESE ARE THE AMENITIES WITHIN THAT PARK.
WE HAVE SIGNAGE THAT SHOWS WHERE THE SOFTBALL FIELDS ARE, UM, IN THE BACKFIELD, I THINK, UM, THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND THE SOCCER FIELDS, AND THEN ALSO POINTING TOWARDS THE CHAMBER AS WELL.
SO ADDING SIGNS OR UNIQUE SIGN, HEY, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND DESIGN THAT IF I WERE YOU AND GO THAT ROUTE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING, A METAL OR SOMETHING.
BUT, UM, I WOULD LOOK AT THE FLYER FIELD ONE, BUT I WON'T HAVE A SAY ON IT, YOU KNOW, ON THAT PIECE, THAT'LL BE UP TO YOU GUYS.
I'LL TAKE HER INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT IS A CITY PROBABLY MAYBE A YEAR AGO, KIND OF INTERESTING WHOLE NEW WAYFINDING SYSTEM AROUND THE CITY.
SO YOU SEE THOSE, A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES.
YOU GO TO WHERE YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF AMENITIES, IT'S SHOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET OFF OF THE HIGHWAY, THERE'S A SIGN THAT SHOWS YOU ON THE ROSE MUSEUMS GOING THIS WAY.
AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE CITY NOW IN DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.
I KNOW THIS KIND OF PUTS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME STUFF ON MIKE, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOK, I'M, I'M PULLING TO GET MORE PEOPLE FOR YOU OVER THERE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN SIGNED COPY.
WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN SIGN DIVISION WITHIN THE CITY, SO WE CAN MAKE SOME, SOME PRETTY GENERALIZED SIGNS.
BUT I THINK WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AS AN OVERALL WHOLE NEW WAYFINDING SYSTEM.
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WHEN YOU GET INTO HEBREW HEIGHTS, WE HAVE VERY IDENTIFIABLE SIGNS THAT ALL MATCH THAT LOOK THE, THAT ARE REALLY NICE, THAT LEADS PEOPLE TO WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO.THIS IS WHERE THE AQUATIC CENTERS AT THIS, WHERE THE YMCAS IS.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE CITY HALL IS AT.
THIS IS WHERE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS.
THIS IS WHERE THE ROSE IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNIFIED.
THAT LOOKS THE SAME, THE SAME TYPE OF DESIGN.
SO WHEN YOU GET IN HUBER HEIGHTS, IT'S VERY IDENTIFIABLE THAT YOU ARE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
SO THOSE SIGNS THAT, UH, SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE ON A FUTURE AGENDA VERY SOON.
UM, SO WE CAN ANY THAT DISCUSSION, THOSE SIGNS WILL BE ABLE TO BE MADE TO SHOW THAT.
SO I DON'T THINK THE SIGNAGE ISSUE OUTSIDE OF THE PARK, HOW YOU GET THERE, THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT PACKAGE, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW CALLED PARK AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS.
SO THE SIGNAGE CERTAINLY CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF AS PART OF THE OVERALL WAYFINDING SYSTEM THAT I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NOW TRYING TO DO, BUT THAT'S AGAIN, TOTALLY SEPARATE THAN THE WHOLE NAMING ISSUE, BUT SIGNAGE WILL, WILL CERTAINLY BE TAPED.
WE'LL CERTAINLY BE TAKEN CARE.
UM, AND UNTIL WE GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE MAYOR, THEN WE'LL, UH, I'LL SEND SOME STUFF OUT AND WE'LL PACKAGE IT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING IN OCTOBER, UH, SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER.
AND, UH, THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT TABLE.
IT WILL HAVE TO TAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT, OR, YEAH.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THAT, THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
I THINK WE HAD A REAL GOOD MEETING TONIGHT, A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION.
UM, I'M, I'M VERY THRILLED AND HAPPY BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY'S ENGAGED LIKE THAT.
WE MAY NOT AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE HAD OUR WORK AND THAT'S THE GOOD PART ABOUT IT.
SO DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING REAL QUICK IF YOU NEED HELP? HOWEVER I CAN CONTRIBUTE.
UM, SO ARE THERE ANY LAST WORDS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? YES.
DID EVERYBODY GET THE PACKAGE THAT HAD THE PICTURES OF EVERYTHING THAT WENT ON AT THE QUARRY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
IF ANY, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'M JUST GOING TO SEND IT TO MY MAIL GROUP.
SO YOU'LL GET ALL THE PICTURES.
I'LL SEND OUT ALL THE PICTURES FROM THE QUARRY TO THE WHOLE TEAM.
I THOUGHT MAYBE THEY WENT TO EVERYBODY, BUT IF NOT, I'LL GET THEM TO YOU GET HOME.
AND IF YOU DON'T TOM, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.