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OKAY, WELL, OFFICIALLY CALL THE MEETING
[ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road July 1, 2021 7:00 P.M. ]
FOR THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION TO ORDER AT 7:04 PM.THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT, KATIE, CAN WE START WITH A ROLL CALL PLEASE? NOT CREGAN'S THAT'S NOT OCCURRED.
CORRECT? MS. NEWBIE PRESENT MS. PURVIS, MR. RAMIREZ, PRESIDENT RICHARDSON, MR. STEVENS, MS. STEVENS PRESENT MS. SIMON RESIDENCE AND MS. PURVIS HAS BEEN EXCUSED FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING.
WE MOVED TOWARD A APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? MADAM CHAIR? I DO HAVE ONE AMENDMENT PER SECTION TWO GUESTS PRESENT.
WE DID HAVE ONE GUEST WHO WAS PRESENT AT THE MEETING AND THAT WAS MRS. EVA NEWBIE.
SO WE HAVE ONE AMENDMENT TO ADD THE GUESTS OF NEPA DOOBIE TO THE MINUTES.
ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE AMENDMENTS AS STATED SO MOVED SECOND.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND, AND THAT THE, THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED, UM, AND REFLECTING THE AMENDMENTS TO BE MADE COMMITTEE REPORTS.
THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE, WE HAD OUR STANDING MEETING ON TUESDAY, JUNE 22ND, TO DISCUSS FURTHER DETAILS PERTAINING TO OUR FIRST QUARTERLY FORUM FOR THE YEAR, WHICH IS UNDER EXCUSE ME, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDING DIVERSITY TO CREATE AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY, WHICH WILL BE HELD NEXT SATURDAY.
I'M AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM FROM 2:00 PM UNTIL 4:00 PM.
ADVERTISEMENT HAS BEEN DONE AS FAR AS KEY ADS THAT'S BEEN POSTED.
ALSO FLYERS HAVE BEEN DISSEMINATED.
THERE'S BEEN ADVERTISEMENT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.
I ASKED THE COMMISSION TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL TO BE PRESENT.
HAS THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY GREAT DIALOGUE THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO.
I'M APPRECIATIVE TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND SUPPORT.
AND I PERSONALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. ERIC RICHARDSON AND MS. TARA PURVIS, WHO WILL BE VOLUNTEERING AS COAL MODERATORS AND ALSO TO RECORD THE EVENT TO BE POSTED ON FACEBOOK LIVE.
SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT.
ALL OF THE LOGISTICS HAVE BEEN PREPARED FOR THE EVENT, THE GUEST SPEAKERS, THEY DID SUBMIT THEIR FORMS IN TERMS OF THE FEES THAT WILL BE PAID TO THEM.
WE WILL BE ISSUING THEM CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION AND EVERYTHING.
AS FAR AS THE LAYOUT AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL HAS BEEN DONE THROUGH OUR FACILITIES COORDINATOR.
SO I BELIEVE THAT IS EVERYTHING.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS PRIOR TO THE EVENT, NO, THE COMMISSION CAN ALWAYS CONTACT EITHER MYSELF OR MS. MIA HONAKER OR, WELL, MR. AKINS, COULDN'T BE A LOVELY CANCUN, BUT WE'LL BE THINKING ABOUT, BUT YES, BUT THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE AS FAR AS THIS FORM, MADAM CHAIR, BUT IN REGARDS TO OUR OCTOBER FORUM, AS I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING, WE CAN ONLY BOOK TWO MONTHS PRIOR.
SO SINCE THE EVENT IS GOING TO BE IN OCTOBER, I'LL HAVE TO BOOK THE FACILITY IN AUGUST AND FOR OUR GUESTS WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING, THE NEXT FORUM THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WILL BE ON OCTOBER 13TH, THAT'S A WEDNESDAY AND THE TOPIC WILL BE
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RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MADAM CHAIR.
SO THE BOOKING OF THE LOCATION THAT'S FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WHY WILL IT BE, UM, WILL IT BE, IS IT GOING TO BE RECORDED OR WILL IT BE STRENGTH ALIVE? IT'S GOING TO BE STREAMLINED THROUGH FACEBOOK.
SO RECORD IT LIVE WHILE THE EVENT IS OCCURRING.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE POSTED ON OUR COMMISSIONS PAGE.
SO THOSE OF US WHO WERE IN CANCUN CAN WATCH LIVE
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR US EDUCATION? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN PUTTING INTO THE EDUCATIONAL SERIES.
HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING THE OUTREACH SUBCOMMITTEE MET ON TUESDAY, JUNE 22ND.
UM, WE DID DISCUSS QUITE A FEW THINGS, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE, UH, CULTURE FESTIVAL ON JUNE 26TH, 2022.
UM, AND WE DID COMMIT TO, UH, GETTING A DJ EARLY.
WE RAN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH THAT THIS, THIS YEAR, BUT I'M WORKING ON GETTING STUFF EARLIER, GETTING THINGS DONE EARLIER THIS YEAR AND SPONSORSHIPS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
UM, ORDERING THE BAGS AND ALL THE SAME PLAN THAT BASICALLY WE HAD FOR THIS YEAR.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT NEXT YEAR.
UM, PLANNING THE EVENT FOR, UH, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, IN HONOR OF NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.
AND I DID SPEAK WITH, UH, MATTHEW HOUSE AND WE DISCUSSED, UH, PICKING THAT CONVERSATION BACK UP SO WE CAN, UM, PUT SOME THINGS INTO THE CURRICULUM EARLY THIS YEAR SO THAT, UH, WHATEVER THE CONTEST IS GOING TO BE, THE STUDENTS WILL HAVE THAT A LITTLE EARLIER THAN WE DID WITH THE, UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING, UM, ESSAY CONTEST.
UH, LET'S SEE, WE DID DISCUSS HAVING A, UH, JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND THIS ONE IS, UH, I, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG AUDACIOUS GOAL.
UH, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL BE PROUD OF.
AND, UM, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO PLAN A CONCERT AT, UH, THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER WAS THAT CALLED? SO I GOT IT RIGHT.
I'VE ONLY BEEN IN IT, IT'S LIKE THE JOHN LEGEND CENTER, CAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I'VE BEEN IN IT.
BUT, UM, WE, WE PLAN ON DOING A CONCERT THAT NIGHT, UM, AND, UH, IN A COMMEMORATION OF, UH, JUNE 10TH, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES GOING ON THAT WEEK FOR, UM, FOR, UH, THE CULTURE FESTIVAL THAT IS GOING TO, UM, IN THAT WEEK, IT'S REALLY WITHIN THE SAME SEVEN DAYS, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN MANAGE THAT WITH THE, WITH ALL OF THE CAPABLE BODIES THAT WE HAVE ON THIS COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL HELPING AND OTHER FOLKS VOLUNTEERING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE DID DISCUSS WAS HAVING, UH, THE COMMISSION BRING UP, WE'LL FOLLOW UP BASICALLY ON, UM, THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE COLUMBUS DAY TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S DAY.
WE MENTIONED THAT IN OUR, UH, IN OUR, UH, CONVERSATION ON, UH, ON THE 22ND AND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS IF, IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE THIS YEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS RECOMMENDATIONS, STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUTLOOK COMMITTEE IS AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN LESS MULTIPLE.
SO DO WE WANT TO MOVE THAT RECOMMENDATION FORWARD AGAIN THEN TOO? HAVE IT RECOGNIZE THAT AS INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, THAT THAT IS CORRECT? MADAM CHAIR, THE, UM, IS IT ON THE, UM, THE, THAT PROCLAMATION THAT WE ASKED FOR AND THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WAS ON THAT LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FEBRUARY OR FALL? YEAH, SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ON THAT LIST OF THAT WHOLE LONG LIST THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT WAS THE TWO TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THAT.
WE DIDN'T GET TO THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED BY COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
CAN WE, UM, SEE WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THOSE TWO REQUESTS THAT WE, THAT YOU HADN'T MADE YES.
SO YEAH, WE CAN, I DO HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY AND WE DO NOT HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT ITEM, SO WE WILL MOVE THAT FORWARD AGAIN.
AND THAT WAS ALL, ANY QUESTIONS OTHER THAN ME
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CELEBRATED A BIRTHDAY TWO DAYS AGO, OR 28TH BIRTHDAY HEAVILY IN MY FORTIES, 35, THAT'S ALL HAPPY BELATED.AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUTREACH TO REFORM? ALL RIGHT.
UH, SO THE REFORM COMMITTEE HELD ITS LAST MEETING ON 16 JUNE, UH, WHERE WE MET WITH THE, UH, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF AND, UH, THE ACTING CITY MANAGER, UH, ANOTHER PERSON MEETING, WE WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY COVER THREE AGENDA TOPICS, BUT WE ONLY GOT TO ONE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
IT WAS, IT WAS AN IMPORTANT ONE AND THAT ONE WAS INVOLVING THE, UH, CITIZENS COMPLAINT PROCESS.
AND SO WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION.
UH, WHAT WE DID WAS WE, WE WALKED THROUGH THE, UH, SO THE CITY OF DAYTON HAS WHAT THEY CALL, UH, THEIR DATE AND CITIZENS APPEAL BOARD PROCESS.
SO WE LOOKED AT THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, TO SEE WHAT WE COULD LEVERAGE FROM THAT TO COME UP WITH OUR OWN, UH, INDEPENDENT CITIZENS COMPLAINT PROCESS HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND SO, UH, SO THE OBJECTIVE IS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE CITIZENS WITH A SUPPLEMENTAL PROCESS TO ADDRESS CIVIL RIGHTS COMPLAINTS AGAINST, UH, POLICE OFFICERS.
AND THEN TWO IS TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, A LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT, UM, AND INCREASED TRAPS AND INCREASED TRANSPARENCY TO ENHANCE PUBLIC TRUST IF YOU WILL, WITH, UH, WITH OUR CITY.
AND SO, UM, SO WE WALKED THE WAY, UH, THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION, WE WALKED AWAY WITH A UNANIMOUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO, TO BASICALLY ESTABLISH THE INDEPENDENT CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, UH, TO INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS, UH, SUBMITTED BY OUR CITIZENS.
AND SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD SORTA MODEL AFTER WHAT WE, WHAT, UH, WHAT WE REVIEWED WITH THE DAYTON, UH, APPEALS BOARD.
AND I, AND I, THAT WENT OUT, I THINK, EARLY TODAY, HOPEFULLY YOU HOPE YOU ALL GOT A CHANCE TO, TO, TO REVIEW IT, BUT JUST TO JUST KIND OF PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF IT.
AND WE STILL GOT TO WORK OUT PROBABLY THE DETAILS OF IT, BUT SO BASICALLY, UM, THE WAY IT WOULD WORK IS, UH, YOU KNOW, SO IF A CITIZEN, UM, UH, IF A CITIZEN COULD FILE A COMPLAINT, THEY WILL SUBMIT THE COMPLAINT TO THE, TO THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR THEY CAN SUBMIT IT TO THE, TO THE, TO THIS BOOK OR TO THAT NEW BOARD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT THEN THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE PASSED ONTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY WOULD DO THEIR INTERNAL INVESTIGATION FIRST.
AND I THINK THEY SAID THAT IT WAS INVESTIGATED FOR TYPICALLY AROUND 30 DAYS OR SO.
UM, BUT THEN ONCE THAT INVESTIGATION IS OVER AND LET'S JUST SAY THE, UH, THE OUTCOME OF THAT INVESTIGATION, UH, IS SUCH THAT THE, THE CITIZEN DOESN'T LIKE THE OUTCOME, UH, THEN THEY COULD THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, FILING A COMPLAINT THROUGH THIS CITIZENS APPEAL BOARD OR WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE, UH, CITIZENS, UM, COMPLAINT REVIEW BOARD, AND, AND THEN THEY WOULD DO THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION.
UH, AND SO THEY WOULD TAKE INFORMATION FROM WHAT'S GATHERED FROM THE INVESTIGATOR, FROM THE POLICE REPORT.
IF YOU WANT TO TURN FROM THE, FROM THE INTERNAL INVESTIGATION REPORT, THEY WOULD TAKE THAT DATA ALONG WITH, THEY COULD ALSO, UH, TALK TO THE, TO THE COMPLAINANT, RIGHT.
AND THEY CAN, WE CAN HEAR A TESTIMONY FROM THEM, GATHER THAT INFORMATION, REVIEW THAT.
AND THEN THE ONLY, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT THIS, THAT BOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IS JUST EITHER CONCUR WITH THE FINDINGS OR EITHER NON CONCUR, BUT THEY HAVE NO POWER TO, IF YOU WILL.
LET'S JUST SAY THEY DON'T CONCUR WITH THE, WITH WHAT THE INTERNAL INVESTIGATION IS.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT, OR THAT BOY DOESN'T HAVE ANY RIGHT TO, TO, TO TAKE ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST THE POLICE OFFICER.
SO ALL, ALL THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO IS JUST PROVIDE THEIR FINDINGS, THEIR FINDINGS, OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE, IF YOU WILL, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TO THE CITY, IF YOU WILL.
AND, UH, AND THAT WOULD BE THE, THE WAY THAT PROCESS WOULD WORK.
AND SO, AND, AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, LIKE I SAID, SOMEWHAT TO WHAT, UH, CITY, CITY OF DAYTON IS DOING THIS.
YOU WOULD HAVE A, AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T BE THE SUPPORT TO BE AN INDEPENDENT BOARD THAT THE CITY WOULD ESTABLISH.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK CITY A DAY AND A HALF, IS IT NINE? I THINK NINE MEMBERS ON THAT BOARD, ONE, ONE PERSON IS A, UH, EX POLICE OFFICER, ANOTHER PERSON WHO IS, UH, HAS A, UH, A LAWYER, IF YOU WILL, OR HAS A LEGAL BACKGROUND.
AND THEY HAVE OTHER CITIZENS THAT SIT ON THAT BOARD.
BUT, BUT SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A SIMILAR TYPE OF A BOARD TO BE ESTABLISHED, TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THIS, UM,
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UH, THIS COMPLAINT, UM, REVIEW BOARD PROCESS.SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY CALLS, BUT THAT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO I WAS LOOKING AT, SO WHEN I WENT TO, UH, TO THE DATE NOW, UM, WHAT IS IT? THEY HAVE A POLICE REFORM WEBSITE.
SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MODELS.
THEY LOOKED AT THE INDIANAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY LOOKED AT LAS VEGAS AND I ASKED, I LOOKED AT SOME OF THEIR PRESENTATIONS.
UM, SO YEAH, IT MAY HAVE BEEN WHEN I LOOKED AT ONE OF THE OTHER CITIES AND SAW NINE, BUT YEAH, THERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY KIND OF MODEL AFTER WHAT THEY SAW, WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING AND COME UP WITH THEIR OWN PROCESS.
I'M GOING TO ADD A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS THAT I ALSO TOOK FROM THE CONVERSATION.
UM, ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS SIGHTS FROM, FROM THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF AND YOU WERE THERE AS WELL, UH, CHAIRWOMAN, UM, AND FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T, THERE WAS, UH, EVEN THOUGH THAT THE REVIEW OF REVIEW BOARDS IN PLACE, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THAT IS TO HAVE, UH, THE OFFICER WHO HAS BEEN A QUESTION ATTEND THE, ATTEND THE HEARING, BASICALLY, UH, HOWEVER, UM, WITH THE FOP AND THE UNION CONTRACT, THEY'VE RECEIVED DIRECTION TO NOT ATTEND THESE, UH, THESE REPORTS, THESE BOARDS.
SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S LIMITED ON, ON THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WANTED TO DEFINITELY BRING UP BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT.
UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, LOOKING, UM, FOR, UH, POLICE INPUT, UH, WHEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO THESE MATTERS, HOW THE SYSTEM MATTERS.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, UH, UH, JUST LOST IN A WHITEHEAD.
THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE IS, I THINK ONE THING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS, I KNOW WE'VE MENTIONED THAT THE, SO FAR AS THE CITIZEN BRINGING THE COMPLAINT, THEY MAY NOT NECESSARILY, OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, DIDN'T BRING IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE ANSWER FROM THE GET GO, RIGHT.
BUT IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY SOLVE THEIR ISSUE AT THAT TIME.
BUT WHAT THIS BOARD COULD DO IS PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL TO SAY, HEY, GOING FORWARD, LET'S DO THIS VERSUS RIGHT.
YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THE, THIS PIGGYBACK ON YOUR FIRST POINT, I THINK WITH THE DATE AND APPEALS BOARD, UM, I THINK THEY, THEY CAN REQUEST THE POLICE.
THEY CAN REQUEST THAT A POLICE OFFICER LET'S SAY THE POLICE OFFICER THAT WAS THAT'S BEEN ACCUSED OF WHATEVER THE, THE COMPLAINT IS.
THEY CAN REQUEST THAT THE POLICE OFFICER COME BEFORE THE BOARD TO SPEAK, BUT HE'S NOT REQUIRED.
THEY DON'T HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS THAT CAN FORCE THAT OFFICER TO DO THAT.
BUT IF HE'S WILLING TO, THEN THEY COULD OBVIOUSLY HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE POLICE OFFICER.
BUT, BUT AGAIN, AS, AS THE POLICE CHIEF POINTED OUT BECAUSE OF, UH, WELL, WELL, YEAH, I'M SORRY.
WHAT DID HE POINTED OUT? WAS THAT THERE? NOT BECAUSE OF THE UNION, RIGHT.
THEY WILL NOT COME BEFORE THAT APPEALS BOARD TO SPEAK, WHICH IS, WHICH IS FINE.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THROUGH THE CURRENT AVENUES, THE CURRENT PROCESS.
CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, SO ANY COMPLAINT THAT WILL COME IN, RIGHT? IF ANY, ANY COMPLAINT AGAINST THE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THEIR OWN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION FIRST, RIGHT.
SO THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD HAPPEN SUBSEQUENTLY, RIGHT.
UH, FOLLOWING THAT, IF, AGAIN, IF THE CITIZEN IS UNHAPPY WITH, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE FINDINGS, CAN A CITIZEN COME DIRECTLY TO THIS BOARD AND RIGHT.
SO THE, SO A CITIZEN CAN, THE AMBITION IS THE CITIZEN CAN STILL COME TO THE BOARD AND, AND SUBMIT THEIR COMPLAINT.
BUT THEN I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO IS HAND THAT UP, HAND THAT OVER TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT.
FOR THEM TO DO THEIR INVESTIGATION FIRST.
AND THEN SEE WHAT THAT OUTCOME IS BEFORE WE WOULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, START WITH OUR OWN INVESTIGATION.
THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ESTABLISH STATE A UNBIASED MEANS OF CITIZENS BEING ABLE TO REPORT, UM, CHALLENGES OR ISSUES WITH THE POLICE AND THE WAY IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE POLICE, YOU GO TO THE POLICE
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TO REPORT THE ISSUE WITH THE POLICE.SO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THAT AVENUE.
SO IF THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH COMING DIRECTLY TO THE POLICE, THEY GET SUBMITTED.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE, WELL, I'M SORRY.
SO I KNOW ON THE WEB, MAYBE I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE NOW.
I THINK THERE'S IT SPEAKING TO THE, TO OUR PERMISSION RIGHTS AND THEY CAN SUBMIT THEIR COMPLAINTS THAT WAY.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING WITH THIS, IF WE CREATE THIS NEW BOARD, THEY CAN SUBMIT THE COMPLAINT THROUGH THIS NEW APPEALS BOARD.
AND THEN WE THEN WOULD BE THAT LIAISON BETWEEN THEM AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
OR A CITIZEN BLAME TO JUST TAKE A SECONDARY STEP OR AN OPTIONAL STEP TO THIS APPEAL MORE THAN YOU'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER HIGH-GROWTH INITIATE WITH WHICH TO SHARE THAT CONCERN.
OTHER THAN THE BELIEF, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? CAUSE IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A SECONDARY OPTION WITH NO WEIGHT TO SATISFY THEIR AUTHORITY, TO SUBPOENA A POLICEMAN, OR IT COULD BE THE WEIGHT TO THEM JUST COMING TO A SECONDARY BOARD.
IS THERE ANY STATEWIDE, UH, OFFICIANT THAT, THAT COULD ALSO REVIEW THE COMPLAINTS? OTHERWISE IT SEEMS LIKE AN UNNECESSARY STEP.
IT MIGHT GIVE THEM A LITTLE SATISFACTION.
THEY HAVE OTHER WITNESSES OR OTHER EATERS TO HEAR YOUR COMPLAINT, BUT IT, IT WOULD FALL FLAT IN MY EYES.
UH, IT WOULD SEEM LIKE IT WOULD FALL FLAT IF THERE'S NO OTHER WEIGHT, AS FAR AS WHAT A RESOLUTION YOU CAN BRING ABOUT WITH ADAM.
AND SO WHEN WE INITIALLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION, UM, CAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NAACP, WHEN THEY HAD THE EIGHT POINT PLAN, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ASKED FOR WAS TO HAVE THE SUBPOENA POWERS.
BUT AGAIN, WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF WRIGHT AND HER AND, AND, AND THE CITY MANAGER A WHILE BACK.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THEY'RE JUST NOT, WE'RE JUST NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT, THAT AUTHORITY.
BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT DOES, UH, ALLOW FOR IS, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BUILD SOME, HAVING SOME TRANSPARENCY, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN BECAUSE THERE'S THIS MAYBE PERCEPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T TRUST THE POLICE BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING THEMSELVES.
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA, UM, SIDE WITH THEMSELVES.
BUT IF YOU HAVE AT LEAST AN INDEPENDENT GROUP, THAT'S AT LEAST REVIEWING THE INVESTIGATION, NOT TO SAY THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING ANYTHING INCORRECTLY, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER SET OF EYES, YOU'D LIKE TO THINK THAT AT LEAST THEY KNOW THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS WATCHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE PROCESS PROPERLY.
SO IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC TRUST IN TRANSPARENCY THAT MAKE SURE THAT THE INVESTIGATION IS, IS, IS BEING CARRIED OUT.
THE WAY IT SHOULD BE IS, IS WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THIS REALLY IS ABOUT.
BUILDING AGAIN, BUILDING TRUST, HAVING TRANSPARENCY, YOU KNOW? SO THAT AGAIN, CAUSE A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF THE PERCEPTION THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE THEY'RE TRYING TO COVER THE TRACKS, RIGHT.
SO WE WANNA, WE WANT TO TRY AND ELIMINATE THAT.
AT LEAST
AND I'M THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE, IF I SAID MENTIONED HAVING EXTRA EYES, I CAN ONLY SEE THE BENEFIT IN THAT BECAUSE IF THERE WERE NO OTHER HIGHER OFFICIATE, ONE FOR THE BOARD TO ELEVATE THE COMPLAINANTS GRIEVANCE OR COMPLAINT, THEN I, IF I WERE THE POLICE CHIEF, I WOULD SAY, WE'VE GOT EXTRA EYES, EXTRA WITNESSES.
I GET THE BENEFIT OF THE TRANSPARENCY.
BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO COVER SOMETHING, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF THEY WERE TRYING TO COVER SOMETHING OR NOT HANDLE SOMETHING FOR RIGHT, THEY WOULD STILL OFFICIATE OR ANYONE ELSE THAT THERE IS FEDERAL GUIDELINES, STATE GUIDELINES, THEY'RE BARGAINING CONTRACT GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION AS A STATE.
I WAS THINKING WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF THEM IS LIKELY TO
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BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE EXPECT, YOU KNOW? AND SO THAT, THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE MORE REASSURING TO THINK THAT THAT GIVES IT A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT YEAH.AND A GOOD POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT BECAUSE WHEN I MET WITH THE POLICE CHIEF, SO IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT WHERE A, LET'S JUST SAY OFFICER DISCHARGES, HIS WEAPON, OR THERE'S AN EXCESSIVE FORCE, THEN AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO BCI.
IT'S OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE LOCAL HUBRIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAD, THERE'S A SET IT'S DONE, UH, EXTERNAL TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW? SO IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE MORE SIMPLER COMPLAINTS, IF YOU WILL, THOSE THINGS ARE DONE, UH, INTERNALLY BRIAN, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S INVOLVING, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, EXCESSIVE FORCE OR, UH, USING THEY'RE DISCHARGING A WEAPON, THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO, TO A SEPARATE ENTITY BCI.
AND I AGREED BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IF IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY TEETH, BUT IF FOR ONE THING, AND THEN SHE HAD, UM, UH, A BODY THAT HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN SEEING EMERGING PATTERNS.
AND
AND THEN MAYBE THAT CAN LEAD TO A SHIFT IN POLICY.
UM, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY INPUT
THAT AT LEAST, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, EXACTLY.
AND EVENTUALLY THOSE PATTERNS EMERGED AND YET THEY CAN SAY, AND I'M ALL ABOUT SOLUTIONS.
SO I DO SEE THE BENEFIT ESCALATION.
AND HOPEFULLY TOO, IT WILL HELP INFLUENCE GOOD BEHAVIOR.
NOT TO SAY THAT WE EVEN HAVE A PROBLEM HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
BUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER INDEPENDENT BOARD, I'M JUST SAYING, WE JUST WANT TO DISCOURAGE BAD BEHAVIOR.
AND SO BY HAVING THESE THINGS IN PLACE, I THINK IT MAY JUST ENSURE THAT, HEY, WHEN OFFICERS, WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE SITUATION, MAYBE THEY'LL THINK, YOU KNOW, I SAID, THEY DON'T THINK, RIGHT.
I'M JUST SAYING, THERE'LL BE VERY CAREFUL IN HOW THEY APPROACH THE SITUATION.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVEN HAVE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE.
HI, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO, I DON'T WANT ONE TO DEVELOP.
DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ISSUE HERE.
SO HOW DO WE BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE AS WHAT WE WANT TO BE.
BUT I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT WHERE'S THE TEETH, BECAUSE I GET YET A HUNDRED PERCENT, I THINK WHERE THE TEETH COMES IN AT IS ONCE YOU BRING THIS COMPLAINT TO THIS REVIEW BOARD, RIGHT.
THAT INFORMATION NOW BECOMES PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S T FOR, RIGHT? SO THE MORE PUBLICITY YOU CAN PUT ON SOMETHING THAT HELPS ELEVATE IT.
BUT THEN ALSO WITH THIS, UH, FORD IS GOING TO DO IS NOW PUT A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TOGETHER TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH INCLUDES THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL FOLKS, THE FOLKS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO NOW YOU CAN SAY AS A CITIZEN, HEY, YOU KNOW, WAIT A MINUTE, THESE FOLKS SAID IT, THEY'VE GIVEN YOU A RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT ARE YOU NOW DOING ABOUT IT? SO I THINK THAT'S NOW WHERE THE TIF COMES IN.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THAT'S WHY I'VE MENTIONED EARLY.
IT'S NOT SO MUCH, IT MAY NOT SOLVE YOUR ISSUE TODAY.
BUT I THINK THOSE LAYERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, WELL, TRY TO PUT A LITTLE TEETH INTO IT NOW.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE IS SITTING SAYING THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE SILVER BULLET THAT'S GONNA FIX IT.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE MORE YOU CAN PUT THINGS IN PLACE, HOPEFULLY TRY TO, YOU DON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND AT LEAST GIVES YOU AN OPPOSITE.
CAUSE TODAY, IF A CITIZEN, THEY DON'T LIKE THE FINDING, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
SO REFORM COMMITTEE HAS BROUGHT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION TO IMPLEMENT THE CITIZEN COMPLAINT PROCESS AND THE COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED THAT RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE WANT TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE
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THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR, TO COUNCIL ASSETS WRITTEN AND SUBMITTED.SO I GUESS I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, CREATE A INDEPENDENT REVIEW BOARD, UM, TO, UH, I'M SORRY, REVIEW BOARD TO INVESTIGATE THEM.
UM, SOME CITIZENS COMPLAINTS, YOUR SECOND, SECOND PROPERLY MOVE.
AND SECOND THAT WE WILL MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO IMPLEMENT A CITIZEN COMPLAINT, UM, BOARD FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT WORK REFORM COMMITTEE ON THAT.
UM, ON WHAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED, IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL? WHAT WAS EMAILED OUT TO THEM? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
UM, SO I JUST DIDN'T REALLY MEET HIM ASKING YOU THIS BECAUSE IT'LL BE SENT TO LEGAL AND I WANT TO KNOW IF THIS IS WHAT I SHOULD SEND TO LEGAL, TO REVIEW PRIOR TO LET ME MAKE A, UM, TO ADMINISTRATIVE EDITS TO IT.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH, YEAH.
SO LET ME, YEAH, LET ME MAKE SOME, I MAY EVEN PUT A, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PUT US, I MEAN, PUT A SIGNATURE BLOCK ON THERE.
WHAT HAPPENS IS I WROTE UP LIKE A MEMO, BUT, BUT YEAH.
I'LL MAKE SOME MINOR EDITS TO IT AND THEN WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
CAUSE I HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH, LIKE WE DID WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE RFP DO SO WE'RE ACTUALLY OKAY.
I THINK WE, WE HAVE, UH, UH, A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS JUST SUBMIT ALL OF THOSE, UM, UNDER ONE DOCUMENT AS WE'VE DONE IT PREVIOUSLY AND THAT WAY I THINK IT'LL BE EASIEST SO YOU CAN SUBMIT WHATEVER AMENDMENTS YOU HAVE.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL COMPILE THEM AND SUBMIT THEM TO KATIE TO BE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL.
CAN I, CAN I MAKE ONE SUGGESTION AFTER ERIC MAKES HIS EDITS AS THE COMMITTEE CHAIR? CAN YOU SEND IT TO THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SO WE CAN REVIEW IT BEFORE SO THAT IT ABSOLUTELY.
THE ADVOCACY, UH, COMMITTEE MET ON JUNE 23RD, UH, AT THE POLICE DIVISION COMMUNITY ROOM AND WE COVER QUITE A BIT.
UM, SO WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THREE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.
ONE OF THOSE IS THE CITIZENS RESPONSE PROTOCOL.
UM, AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WITH THE CITIZENS RESPONSE PROTOCOL IS THAT WHEN A MAJOR INCIDENT TAKES PLACE AND WE'RE DEFINING A MAJOR INCIDENT AS SOMETHING WHERE A CRIME HAS TAKEN PLACE.
SO WHETHER IT'S VANDALISM OR MURDER, UM, ANY TYPE OF BRUTALITY, ANY TYPE OF COMMISSION OF CRIME HAS TAKEN PLACE, WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME TYPE OF RAPID RESPONSE, UM, AND THIS KIND OF COINCIDES A LOT WITH WHAT REFORM IS DOING.
SO WHAT WE WERE ASKING IS THAT WITHIN 24 HOURS, THERE'D BE SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM CITY LEADERSHIP, WHETHER IT BE THE MAYOR OR A DESIGNEE OF CITY COUNCIL, UM, AND WITHIN 48 HOURS, OUR COMMISSION WOULD PROVIDE SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE MAJOR INCIDENT OR THE CRIME.
AND THEN WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, SOME SORT OF SOLIDARITY EVENT, WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY A RALLY OR WHETHER WE'RE SENDING A LETTER, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE INCIDENT THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH SOME SORT OF SOLIDARITY EVENT.
UM, SO AS I SAID, WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THAT PROCESS.
AND, UM, I THINK WHAT WE MAY DO IS MOVE IT.
I HATE TO KEEP PUSHING IT BACK, BUT TARA IS NOT HERE EITHER.
SO WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE IT BACK TO OUR NEXT ADVOCACY COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE WE CAN FINALIZE IT.
WE STILL NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL TO VOTE ON BEFORE WE THEN, UH, FORMALIZE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UM, THE OTHER THING, UH, WAS THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND SOLIDARITY AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON THAT IS SIMPLY THAT WHEN CITIES ARE HAVING MAJOR INCIDENTS, LIKE INCIDENTS,
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GEORGE FLOYD, BRIANNA TAYLOR, UM, ANY OF THOSE INCIDENTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO THOSE CITIES, JUST TO SAY THAT WE ARE A CITY, WE SEE YOU, WE HEAR YOU.AND WE ARE STANDING IN SUPPORTIVE VIEW.
UM, THANKFULLY NOTHING LIKE THAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR CITY, BUT IT VERY WELL COULD.
AND SO I THINK THAT WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, ARE SHOWING OUR SUPPORT TO OTHER CITIES, UM, WE ALSO POSITION OURSELVES TO GET THAT SUPPORT THAT WE NEED SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN IN OUR CITY.
UM, AND TO THIS, I THINK TO THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SENT ANY TYPE OF LETTER OF SOLIDARITY OR SUPPORT, UM, FOR ANY OF THE MAJOR INCIDENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
BRIANNA TAYLOR, I KNOW WE DID SOMETHING FOR GEORGE FLOYD IN OUR CITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SENT ANYTHING FROM OUR CITY TO MINNESOTA TO THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYOR OR TO THAT CITY GOVERNMENT.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE OUR CITY BE A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE AT TAKING, UM, SHOWING SOME SUPPORT WHEN THESE THINGS ARE TAKING PLACE.
AND THEN THE OTHER WAS A RESOLUTION FOR THE FAIR HIRING AND BIDDING PROCESSES.
AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A RESOLUTION WHEREBY THERE WOULD BE A FAIR HIRING AND BIDDING PROCESS.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS EEO DATA, BUT JUST KNOWING THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF PROCESS WHERE WHEREBY WE ARE ENSURING THAT THERE IS A FAIR HIRING, FAIR RECRUITMENT, UM, FAIR SELECTION PROCESS.
AND THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS TRACKABLE.
SO, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE TO THIS POINT.
AND SO WE'RE ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF A RESOLUTION THAT ENSURES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING FAIR HIRING PROCESSES AND THAT WE HAVE FAIR BIDDING PROCESSES.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S A BLIND BIDDING PROCESS.
KATIE, IF I'M CORRECT IN WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO DO IS USE SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE TRACKABLE SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO TRACK DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AND SEE WHO ARE WE GIVING CONTRACTS TO OUR MINORITY BUSINESSES OR BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES? ARE THEY BEING GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS OTHER BUSINESSES? SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROCESS, UM, IS, IS A PUBLIC PROCESS AND THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS.
UM, WE ALSO HAD A GEORGE FLORIDA MEMORIAL AND THAT WAS IN MAY AND WE HAD GREAT FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT.
UM, IT DID TAKE PLACE ON GEORGE FLOYD'S THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH.
UM, WE HAD THAT UP AT THE, UM, COMMUNITY PARK ON CHAMBERSBURG AND WE HAD A NICE TURNOUT.
WE HAD CITY LEADERSHIP, WE HAD COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE HAD PEOPLE FROM, UH, OTHER CITIES THAT CAME OUT TO SHOW SUPPORT.
UM, SO THANK YOU ALL TO EVERYONE THAT'S SUPPORTED.
AND THEN, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT SO MANY THINGS, I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
WE ARE WANTING TO ACKNOWLEDGE A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS IN OUR CITY.
UM, AND WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES.
AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TELL US WHAT BUSINESSES THEY WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.
AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THIS MONTH, THAT WE ARE DOING A, UM, PROCESS TO LOOK FOR A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS OF THE MONTH, AND THEN WHAT WE WILL BE DOING IN AUGUST.
LET ME MAKE SURE I GOT MY DETAILS, CORRECT.
I THINK WE'RE ANNOUNCING IN JULY, WE ARE, WHAT DID WE SAY? WE'RE ANNOUNCING THE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THIS MONTH AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO AWARD IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WE WILL BE AWARDING THE BLACK OWNED BUSINESS IN SEPTEMBER.
AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS CREATE A GOOGLE FORM THAT CAN GO OUT ON OUR WEBSITE THAT WILL ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO VOTE ON THE BLACK OWNED BUSINESS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FEATURED FOR THE, FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.
UM, AND BASED ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY TELLS US THAT IS THE BLACK OWNED BUSINESS THAT WE WILL HIGHLIGHT.
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IS THAT BY DOING THIS, SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT MAY NOT BE GETTING EXPOSURE THAT MAY NOT BE GETTING TRAFFIC, THAT PEOPLE WILL BEGIN TO GO TO THESE BUSINESSES AND PATRONIZE THESE, THESE BUSINESSES.AND I KNOW YOLANDA HAD SOME DATA ON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SUPPORT BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT IN TERMS OF FUNDING, IN TERMS OF EXPOSURE, BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES DO NOT OFTEN GET TO SUPPORT THE FUNDING AND THE PRIORITY THAT THEY SHOULD GET.
UM, AND MANY TIMES IT JUST GOES BACK TO THAT SIX STEP, THE SYSTEMIC PIECE.
UM, SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEM, NOT JUST AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM AS, AS A CITY.
UM, BUT WE ALSO NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND THAT THEY'RE HERE.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE PLAN TO DO THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON ANY OF THAT, THAT I'VE COVERED SO FAR? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, UH, HAS THIS BEEN, HAS THE, THE BLACK OWNED BUSINESS, UH, RECOGNITION IN, UH, DISCUSSED, OR I GUESS COLLABORATED WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE? UM, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, THAT SEEMS LIKE A MORE FITTING ORGANIZATION THAT'S ABLE TO, UH, TO SUPPORT, UM, BUSINESS-RELATED MATTERS.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE HUBER HEIGHTS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, CORRECT.
SO THE HUBER HEIGHTS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DOES NOT HAVE A FOCUS ON MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS.
WHAT, WHAT I DID DO THOUGH, IS REACH OUT TO A CHAMBER OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER IN COLUMBUS.
AND WHAT HE ADVISED ME TO DO IS TO WORK WITH OUR MINORITY OWNED CHAMBER THROUGH THE DAYTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
WE DO PLAN TO DO THAT, BUT THIS IS JUST BASICALLY TO HIGHLIGHT OUR BIDS ARE BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES IN THE HUBER HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.
SO AS WE DEVELOP THIS PROGRAM, YES, WE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE DATE AND CHAMBER TO THEIR MINORITY BUSINESS DIVISION SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE US SOME IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO WORK WITH OUR MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IS AS WE PRIORITIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT OUR ARE BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES ARE, ARE NOT PERFORMING AS WELL OR ARE PROVIDING THE PUBLIC PUBLICITY THAT THEY NEED.
IS THERE ANY, UH, LONG-TERM VISION ON, UH, INCORPORATING TURKISH OWNED BUSINESSES OR OTHER MINORITY RACE RELATED BUSINESSES WITHIN, WITHIN THE PROGRAM? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO HELP ALL OF OUR MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO TRYING TO KEEP IN MIND THE FOCUS OF, OF OUR COMMISSION AND WHAT WE WERE ASSEMBLED TO FOCUS ON WAS REALLY LOOKING AT SIX SYSTEMIC RACISM, UM, WITHIN OUR MINORITY, THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND ALTHOUGH WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL, UM, DEFICITS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES, WE KNOW THAT BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES, THEY JUST DON'T GET THE RECOGNITION, THE EXPOSURE, UM, THAT THEY SHOULD.
AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST A FACT, UM, AND WE CAN SHARE THAT DATA WITH YOU.
I THINK YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, YOLANDA OWNS OUR BUSINESS.
UM, ERIC IS A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS AND I MEAN, WE HAVE TO, WE DO, WE HAVE TO WORK REALLY HARD TO GET THE EXPOSURE THAT YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS GET SOUTH.
SO WITH THE HUPER HIGHEST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, DO YOU THINK THOUGH IT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE TO STILL REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO TO TRY AND HIGHLIGHT AND HIGHLIGHT, MAYBE HELP, YOU KNOW, SOME YEAH.
UM, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
SO MEANWHILE, WE STILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR BUSINESSES IDEALLY.
A CHAMBER SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON ALL BUSINESSES AND ESPECIALLY GIVING SUPPORT TO THE MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES.
UM, BUT, UM, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER AROUND THE TIME THAT GEORGE FLOORED, THE GEORGE FLOYD, YEAH.
YOU REMEMBER THE POSTS THAT WERE PUT OUT FROM THE CHAMBER AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY SEVERED THEIR RELATIONSHIP.
SO, YOU KNOW, FACTUALLY, I JUST DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW THAT RELATIONSHIP IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE, BUT THE HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GET IT BACK TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
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I AM REACHING OUT TO MARK RUNS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE CHAMBER FOR THE HUBER CHAMBER.UM, I DID, DID SHARE OUR EDUCATIONAL SERIES FLYER INFORMATION.
THAT'S COMING UP WITH THE CHAMBER VIA EMAIL TO ASK THEM TO DISSEMINATE, TO SHARE AND THEIR RESPONSE FROM, WELL, THIS WAS THE ADMIN THOUGH, BUT IS THAT THE CITY IS, DOES NO LONGER HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHAMBER.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WILLINGNESS IS THERE TO ASSIST AND HELP DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T TRY.
AND AGAIN, I'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM AGAIN BECAUSE I'M, WE REALLY NEED TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO, TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP BACK SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THEM INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE SAME CITY, WE HAVE, WE SUPPORT THE SAME PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO BE IN THIS TOGETHER.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST, PEOPLE NEED TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE ON BOARD, UM, BEFORE THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM GETTING ON BOARD.
AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF MOMENTUM AND WE CAN'T REALLY GET CAUGHT UP IN THOSE SITUATIONS BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING THAT WE CREATED.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALL, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY ON THIS COMMISSION HAVE THE SAME GOAL AND THAT'S TO BRIDGE THOSE GAPS TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
AND IT MAY NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, YES, MA'AM SO I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.
UM, AND I THINK, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I SEE, UM, COUNCILMAN BAKER, IT COUNCILWOMAN BAKER IS THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIVERSITY IN ANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
AND SO THAT'S THE PIECE THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO FIX.
UM, BECAUSE UNTIL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, THE FORUM, THESE ORGANIZATIONS NEED TO BE PARTICIPATING BECAUSE UNTIL THEY UNDERSTAND UNCONSCIOUS BIAS, THEY DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND OR SEE THAT, THAT THERE MAY BE BIAS OPERATING IN THEIR GROUPS.
YOU KNOW? SO YEAH, ROTARY ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO THE GAP IN SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS, BUT WE NEED TO GET ROTARY TO THE TABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED A DIVERSE ROLE, THE REGROUP, YOU KNOW, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO TROTWOOD ROTARY TO SEE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME, SO WE WE'VE GOT TO JUST DO BETTER.
UM, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, AND WITH ME BEING GONE EARLY, MOST OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS I MAY HAVE MISSED, UH, MR. THE DISCUSSION ON, ON THE, ON THE PROGRAM OFFERED FOR BLACK OWN RECOGNITION OF THE MONTH.
UH, BUT WITH IT BEING AN OFFICIAL, UM, OF ACTION ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, THIS WAS BROUGHT ON, UH, THROUGH A FORMAL MOTION AND A VOTE THROUGH THE COMMISSION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO WORK DOING THAT TODAY.
SO AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WHAT I'LL DO AT THIS POINT IS JUST ASK THAT EMOTION, UM, WOULD BE MADE THAT WE COULD, WE COULD, I GUESS, FINALIZE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST GET THE COMMISSION'S VOTE ON IT TO SAY, YES, WE WANT CITIZENS RESPONSE PROTOCOLS.
WE WANT LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND THEN A RESOLUTION FOR FAIR HIRING AND BIDDING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT BEFORE IT CAN GO TO, TO COUNCIL.
SO, UM, SHOULD I FINALIZE THE RECOMMENDATION FIRST BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT? YES.
SO WE'LL TAKE THIS BACK TO OUR ADVOCACY COMMITTEE, UM, FOR OUR JULY MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN AUGUST FOR A VOTE, THE BLACK OWNED BUSINESS THOUGH.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UM, FOR US TO ACKNOWLEDGE A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS OF THE MONTH, UM, TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS OF THE MONTH.
AND I THINK ALONG WITH THAT, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE EDUCATION ABOUT WHY IT'S NECESSARY, THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGED BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO ASSUME PEOPLE KNOW.
UM, SO THE DATA, THE DATA IS IMPORTANT AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOME DATA, BUT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION WE SAID MINORITY
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AT FIRST.BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT MINORITY, WHEN YOU SAY MINORITY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WOMEN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT VETERANS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WHAT DID I MISS? ALL, ALL, ALL, ALL GROUPS.
AND SO IT BEGINS TO FILTER THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FOCUS THAT NEEDS TO BE ON BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES.
UM, SO INSTEAD OF CALLING IT MINORITY OWNED, UM, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, MINORITY CAN BE DIFFERENT THINGS, MAYBE SOMETHING MORE OF AN UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS.
I MEAN, I'M DOING, I'M LOOKING AT, UM, I AGREE THAT WE START WITH FOCUSING ON A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS, UM, MONTHLY, BUT EVENTUALLY MOVING INTO WHERE WE DO OUR OTHER UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS, NOT MONITOR MARGINALIZED GROUPS, WHICH IS OUR LATINO OR ASIAN AND THOSE NOT, NOT TALKING ABOUT VETERANS AND WOMEN'S AND STUFF.
THAT'S, THAT'S OTHER COMMISSIONS.
BUT, UM, I THINK I LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDED PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'LL EVENTUALLY LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, WE WILL BE MOVING TO WHERE WE WILL RECOGNIZE THOSE TO BE INCLUSIVE, THAT THOSE GROUPS, AS WELL AS PART OF THAT MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS, BUT WITH OUR FIRST FOCUS ON BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES TO GET THAT PROGRAM STARTED TO GET THAT RECOGNITION.
CAN WE ADD SOMETHING? CAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULDN'T DO THAT WHEN YOU ANSWERED, UM, ESTEBAN'S QUESTION AND THE THING, THE THING I WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND IS WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF EXCLUDING ANY GROUP.
I JUST THINK, UM, I THINK COMING FROM BEING ONE OF THE OTHER GROUP MEMBERS, I HEAR ALL THE TIME FROM OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE DON'T FOCUS AND BEING A CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION.
I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT THE INTENT OF FIRST STARTING ON, YOU KNOW, FOR STARTING ON THIS.
AND I TOTALLY AGREE AND BACKUP THAT I KNOW THE DATA AND I HAD TO REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, BUT THAT WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF, OF OTHER MARGINALIZED GROUPS AS WELL.
AND IT BE GOING TO BE A TRUE INCLUSIVE AND CULTURE AND DIVERSITY.
WE NEED TO INCLUDE THOSE GROUPS, NOT ALL THE TIME NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, WHERE WE'RE STARTING, WE'RE ESTABLISHING THIS COMMISSION.
AND LIKE I SAID, EVENTUALLY DOWN THE LINE, WE WILL HAVE THIS RECOGNITION FOR ALL THAT.
AND I'M NOT AN, I AGREE WITH NOT CALLING IT MINORITY BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY.
AND THAT CAN INCLUDE MORE THAN WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES A COVER FOR THE WISE.
BUT LIKE I WAS SAYING, MARGINALIZED GROUPS OR GROUPS THAT WOULD INCLUDE OUR OTHER MARGINALIZED GROUPS IN THE COMMUNITY, SUCH AS OUR I'M THINKING OF OUR LATINO COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY FACED VERY SIMILAR STATISTIC WISE FOR, UM, FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M THINKING THAT LIKE, PARTICULARLY THAT GROUP, ESPECIALLY.
SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IS THERE A LATINO CHAMBER IN DATING? UH, THERE IS.
I KNOW THEY'RE THERE A, THERE'S NOT AN APP.
THERE IS NO AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER.
LIKE I SAID, I SAID, I AGREE WITH BEING THE FIRST FOCUS BEING ON BLACK OWNED MINORITY AND LET'S BUILD UP THAT COMMUNITY.
BUT ONCE WE DO THAT IN OUR CITY AND BE THE FIRST PUT US ON THE MAP IN THIS AREA, THAT WE ARE A CITY THAT IS BUILDING UP OUR BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES HERE, WE EVENTUALLY MOVE ON TO INCLUDING OTHER MARGINALIZED GROUPS WHO HA WHO ARE HAVING DIFFICULTIES.
I'M LIKE, CAN WE ADD THAT SOMEWHAT IN THE RECOMMENDATION TO THAT IS OUR GOAL, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO GET QUESTIONED AGAIN.
SO WE'RE NOT INCLUDING OTHER BEING INCLUSIVE AND THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE UNTIL THEY ATTEND JEANS, FORUM, AND SOME OTHER FORUMS, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE WELL.
AND STILL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR IT OR NOT, BLACK PEOPLE ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AT A MUCH HIGHER, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MIA, ASIAN ISLANDER PACIFIC ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER ARE THE TWO GROUPS THAT ARE THE MOST DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.
AND YOU, YOU CANNOT, I MEAN, YOU CAN'T DENY THAT IT'S A FACT THERE IS A LATIN AMERICAN CHAMBER.
THE ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT I GOT WHEN I SPOKE TO DANIEL AT THE COLUMBUS CHAMBER WAS THAT DATE AND IS THE ONLY CITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE A CHAMBER THAT IS FOCUSED ON BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES.
SO I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES DO SUFFER BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF RESOURCES THAT ARE DEVOTED TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT, TO THEIR GROWTH, TO THEIR SUSTAINABILITY, WHERE YOU DO HAVE THE LATIN CHAMBER AND YOU HAVE OTHER CHAMBERS THAT EXIST.
BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES DON'T HAVE ANY SUPPORT.
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SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.I TOLD HIM, AND I FIND IT APPALLING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A, UH, BLACK CHAMBER OF BUSINESS IN THIS AREA.
AND I WOULD WANT TO SEE HUBER HEIGHTS BEING ON THE MAP OF LET'S START THIS SUPPORT FOR OUR BLACK OWNED BUSINESS AND BEING ON THE MAP THAT OTHER CITIES WILL FOLLOW OUR LEAD, THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.
AND I'M TOTALLY NOT DISAGREEING WITH THAT AT ALL.
I KNOW I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LATINO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
IT'S BECAUSE THEIR COMMUNITY IS DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE IS THEY HAVE ADVOCATED AND PUSHED AND PUSHED AND PUSHED.
THEY STILL DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A CHAMBER BETWEEN THEMSELVES, BUT IT'S STILL NOT A, A CITY SUPPORTED, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SAME SUPPORT THAT THEY SHOULD, AND WE SHOULD ALL HAVE THAT.
I MEAN THAT IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD.
I JUST WANT TO, TO ADDRESS LIKE WHAT YOU ANSWERED AS STEFAN'S QUESTION IN THE FORMAL RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE STARTING IN.
OUR MAIN FOCUS IS ON THAT WE ARE, WE WILL ADDRESS ISSUES WITH OTHER MARGINALIZED GROUPS DOWN THE LINE.
I'M JUST, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU AT ALL.
RHONDA, I THINK THIS IS VERY MUCH KEY AND IMPORTANT TO START WITH OUR BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES.
SO WE, BUT I THINK WITH, I GUESS THE EMOTION OR THE ACTION IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO TAKE A SPECIFIC ACTION NOW, RIGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO, YOU'RE PUTTING A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR US TO HAVE THE CITY RECOGNIZE BLACK BUSINESSES, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE ACTUAL ACTION NOW TO SPAN THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, AT SOME POINT, I ALSO LOOK AT OTHER GROUPS.
SO EITHER WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT NOW EITHER MAKE A MOTION AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE SAY, NOW WE WANT YOU TO GO FORWARD WITH RECOGNIZING HISPANICS OR ASIANS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, SO I JUST THINK EITHER WE'RE GOING TO AND EVERYTHING NOW, WE'RE EITHER JUST FOCUSING ON THE ONE AREA FOCUS GROUP AND THEN FOLLOW UP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WITH A, ANOTHER MOTION TO SAY, HEY, NOW WE WANT THE CITY OF UBER HIGHEST TO START RECOGNIZING MAYBE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE IN THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT CAN WE SPECIFICALLY NOTE THAT IN THE MINUTES? SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ON RECORD, AT LEAST THAT WE WILL.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT AT LEAST NOTED.
AND HONESTLY, I'M, I'M TELLING IT BECAUSE, AND I'LL BE HONEST, I'M ASIAN, THAT'S MY COMMUNITY.
AND THIS WAS MY COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AND I SEE THE BUSINESSES HERE, UM, WHY THEY DON'T COME HERE WHERE THEY'RE STRUGGLING.
AND I TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OWNERS OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY I REPRESENT.
SO I DON'T DO THEM AS SERVICE REPRESENTING ON A COMMISSION IF I DON'T REPRESENT THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M BRINGING ON, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS OR ANYTHING.
CAUSE I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON BLACK COMMUNITIES FIRST, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WITH RHONDA, I FIND IT APPALLING.
WE DON'T HAVE A BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HERE.
AND WHILE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE OUR SIZE DO, AND I DON'T, I DISAGREE.
AND I SEE THE WHOLE NOT REPRESENTATION THAT THIS CITY, THAT DAYTON AREA AND NOT JUST HUBER HEIGHTS, I'M NOT CALLING OUT JUST THIS CITY, BUT THIS AREA DOES NOT REPRESENT WELL.
AND WE ARE ONE OF THE, PROBABLY MOST SEGREGATED CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, UH, A POSITIVE THING AT ALL FOR THIS AREA.
AND I AM GLAD TO BE PART OF A COMMISSION THAT IS PUTTING A FOCUS AND WE'RE PUTTING HUBER HEIGHTS ON THE MAP OF DOING A LOT OF STUFF MOVING FORWARD.
THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE NOW TAKING LEAVE.
SO, BUT I MEAN, WE, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK.
I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT THERE.
AND FOR NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION TO FOCUS ON BLACK BUSINESSES.
AND THEN WE JUST, AND WE MARK IT IN THE MINUTES THAT THIS WILL BE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.
LET ME JUST SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH YOU AS RHONDA SHARED WITH YOU.
WE DID HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN OUR, UM, COMMITTEE ABOUT STARTING WITH MINORITY BUSINESSES VERSUS STARTING WITH BLACK BUSINESSES.
SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OR SOME DATA AROUND THIS, HERE'S THE PERCENTAGE THAT THERE'S A STUDY BY FUND DEER THAT ASKS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OWNERS RECEIVE.
AT LEAST SOME OF THE FUNDING THEY REQUESTS FROM A BANK 80.2% OF WHITE BUSINESSES.
77% OF ASIAN BUSINESSES RECEIVE FUNDING.
69.5% OF HISPANIC BUSINESSES RECEIVE FUNDING.
60% OF BLACK BUSINESSES RECEIVE FUNDING.
SO EVEN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, FROM A MINORITY STANDPOINT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ASIANS 77% VERSUS BLACK IS 60%.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
AND THIS IS WHY WE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON BLACK
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BUSINESSES.THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, THE GAP IS EVEN WIDER WHEN IT CAME TO BUSINESS OWNERS RECEIVING THE FULL AMOUNT OF FINANCING THAT THEY REQUESTED FROM BANKS, 54% OF WHITE BUSINESS OWNERS RECEIVED THE FULL AMOUNT, SAW 33.8% FOR ASIAN BUSINESS OWNERS, 32.1% FOR HISPANIC BUSINESS OWNERS AND 26% FOR BLACK BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO THIS IS WHY ADVOCACY ADVOCACY FOCUSED ON BLACK BUSINESSES TO ADVOCATE BECAUSE THEY HEARD THE MOST MARGINALIZED IN THIS GROUP IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO CAPITAL.
UM, AND SO WE WANT TO BUILD THE BLACK BUSINESSES AND THERE'S RIGHT.
AND SO WHAT WE WILL DO, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO BEGIN WITH THE BLACK BUSINESSES.
UM, AND WE CAN ADD THAT WE WILL ADD ADDITIONAL MARGINALIZED GROUPS LATER.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO ADD THAT RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STANDS.
I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE RECOMMENDATION AND I JUST WANT IT TO BE MARKED IN MINUTES.
SO THAT WAY OUR, OUR LATINO BUSINESS AND OUR AGENT YEAR, SO THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IT, RIGHT.
SO THEY DON'T FEEL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TARGETED WITH RACIAL ACTS.
AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED HERE IN, IN THIS, OUR CITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST, AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT EXCLUDING.
I'M NOT SAYING I'M, I TOTALLY DON'T AGREE NOT WE SHOULD MOVE THIS FORWARD.
I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH FOCUSING ON BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES FIRST.
CAUSE I, I AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW, I, I SEEN THE STATS AND I TOTALLY THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD FOCUS AND A START.
I JUST, UM, I'VE JUST HEAR FROM OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS HERE THAT ARE NOT FROM OTHER MARGINALIZED GROUPS, THAT THEY DO FEEL THAT WE HAVE THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE MARGINALIZED GROUPS AND WE ARE A DIVERSITY COMMITTEE THAT THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND, AND I KNOW THIS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE UNTIL WE GET, AND I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT IF WE HAVE, AND, AND THE SYSTEMIC OR IN THIS THING, IN THIS CITY FOR OUR BLACK COMMUNITY, IT IS A BENEFIT FOR ALL OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND I'VE EXPLAINED THIS, BUT IT'S, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO WAIT AND SEND YOU ALSO MIA TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
EVERYTHING MAY NOT SEE ME EQUAL BECAUSE EVERYBODY DOESN'T NEED THE SAME RESOURCES, RIGHT? WE NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED.
WE NEED TO BE MORE ABOUT EQUITY AND NOT EQUAL EQUALITY.
SO IT'S THAT PICTURE THAT I SHOWED YOU ALL.
WE MAY NOT GIVE A BOX TO THE BUSINESS.
THEY'RE THRIVING AND THEY'VE GOT THE RESOURCES THEY NEED, BUT THE PERSON THAT NEEDS THE BOX, MAYBE THE BLACK OWNED BUSINESS, WE MAY GIVE THEM, WE MAY NEED TO GIVE THEM TWO BOXES.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TOO, WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT, HEY, WHAT ABOUT US? WE'RE NOT TRYING TO EXCLUDE ANYBODY, BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC.
EVERYBODY MAY NOT NEED THE SAME SUPPORT.
AND I NEVER EXPLAINED TO THEM, SOME OF THEM HAPPENS.
THEY HAVE BEEN TARGETED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDRESSED IT TOO.
AND I'VE TOLD THEM WE HAVE ADDRESSED THIS.
WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT YOU, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP, RHONDA WITH THE ADVOCACY, ANYTIME SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT'S PART OF THE COMMISSION.
SO, AND THEY ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S, UM, BUT THAT'S JUST THE CONCERN I KEEP HEARING.
AND I KEPT EXPLAINING THE SAME THING TO THEM, RHONDA.
I DO, BUT IT'S JUST, I JUST WANTED TO, AT LEAST WE HAVE IT IN THE MINUTES.
THAT WAY THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING HEARD AT LEAST.
SO, UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, THAT, UM, THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT, UM, THEY, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH HIGHLIGHTING A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS OF THE MONTH.
THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR? I GOT A SECOND.
I SECOND THAT MOTION IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND IT, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND WE NEED TO TAKE ME TO PUT IT TO A VOTE.
KATIE, CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE PLACE? QUESTION, DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION.
OH, IS IT A CITY? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS IT? I THOUGHT IT WAS A CITY TO HAVE THE CITY RIGHT.
OR WAS IT SHOW WILL RECOGNIZE IT, BUT THEY NEED TO RIGHT.
WE NEED TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THEM TO MAKE THEM AWARE.
IT'S MORE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
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YES.WE'LL MOVE THAT FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT WITH ADVOCACY BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD IS JUST THE CRITICAL RACE THEORY, THE BILL HOUSE, BILL 3 22.
UM, AND I'M HOPING THAT EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT BILL, IF NOT, UM, I CAN SEND YOU A COPY OF THE ANALYSIS.
UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE REACHING OUT TO OUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT.
UM, AND BASICALLY THIS BILL IF PASSED, IT'S CURRENTLY IN THE HOUSE STILL.
UM, BUT IF THIS PASSES, THIS WILL PROHIBIT ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS, EDUCATORS IN GENERAL ABOUT ADDRESSING ANY SUBJECTS, UH, THAT DEAL WITH RACE, SEX CLASS AND OTHER.
AND I CAN SEND YOU THE ANALYSIS SO THAT YOU CAN GO THROUGH IT AND LOOK AT IT.
BUT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE VERY AWARE OF HOW THIS WILL IMPACT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OUR KIDS.
SO, UM, I AM ACTUALLY PLANNING TO REACH OUT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, UM, TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AS A DISTRICT REGARDING THIS BILL.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL READ IT AND UNDERSTAND IT AND REACH OUT TO YOUR, YOUR SENATORS AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
BELIEVE PHIL PLUMBER IS A CO-SIGNER ON THAT.
HE IS PHIL PLUMBER IS A CO-SIGNER AND HE IS OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE.
WOULD REACH OUT TO, WELL, TWO OF OUR US SENATORS, SENATOR BOB PORTMAN AND SENATOR SHERROD BROWN.
UM, AS WELL AS THE OTHER SENATOR WHO'S IN THE OTHER 50 STATES, THIS ONE WOULD BE LOADED ON I, HOW INFLUENTIAL I'VE BEEN PUSHING, WRITING SENATOR BROWN, BUT HE CAN'T VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A HOUSE.
UM, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE DIFFERENT, THE DIFFERENT LOCAL GROUPS IN GREEN COUNTY AND STUFF, EVERYBODY THAT'S IN OUR AREA THAT ARE ON THAT HOUSE, BUILDING POWER, THEY ARE FOR THIS BILL.
SO, I MEAN, WE ARE FIGHTING A TOUGH BATTLE IN THIS AREA.
SO I THINK OUR REPRESENTATIVE IS MY TURN, OUR TURN.
SO IS HE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL? YES.
I ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT PRESSURE.
I MEAN, I READ THE ONE FROM THE GREEN COUNTY ONES THAT THEY GOT, THEY RECEIVED IT BACK FROM THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY, THEY ALL HAVE STATED CLEARLY THAT THEY ARE AGAINST CRITICAL RACE THEORY.
I MEAN, I WE'RE FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE WITH OUR LOCAL GROUPS.
SO I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY WHERE WE HAVE TO PRESSURE THEM, BUT ALSO REACH OUT TO THE AREAS LIKE IN COLUMBUS AND CLEVELAND, WHERE THEY HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE AGAINST THIS BILL, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE BECAUSE THEY COULD MAYBE HAVE MORE OF A PRESSURE UP THAT TOO.
NOT JUST OUR OWN LOCAL ONES, WE'VE BEEN ON CAMPUS, DOING ALL OF THE REPRESENTATIVES, YOU KNOW, LET IT KNOW WHAT POWER WE'RE FEELING.
SO, UM, IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE FIGHTING THIS UPHILL BATTLE WITH OUR LOCALS.
EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, BEING LOCAL, ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND YOU HAVE TO CONTACT ALL OF THOSE OFFICIALS TO GET THESE LEGISLATIONS APPROVED.
EVEN THE GOVERNOR IS HE CAN VETO IT IF IT PASSES.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL, BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT HAVING A TOWN HALL AND INVITING, UM, THE SPONSORS OF THIS FIELD TO TALK ABOUT WHY THEY FELT THIS WAS IMPORTANT.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE I THINK, UM, IT'S EASY TO, TO PUT, TO SPONSOR SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE PEOPLE ASKING YOU QUESTIONS AND REALLY TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WHY IS, WHY IS IT AN ISSUE TO TELL KIDS THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW, UM, THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED? WHY IS IT AN ISSUE TO TALK ABOUT RACE AND SLAVERY? WHY IS THAT AN ISSUE? UM, WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR CONSTITUENTS WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, IT'S VERY EASY
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FOR THEM TO JUST, YOU KNOW, PUT THINGS ON THE FLOOR AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY IT'S, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN OUR CITY COUNCIL.YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE DON'T COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS AND THINGS ABOUT LEGISLATION THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO PASS, THINGS WOULD JUST GET PASSED AND NOBODY WILL HAVE INPUT.
SO WE REALLY DO NEED TO BE MORE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE ABOUT THESE BILLS.
AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU ALL HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE BILL, I WILL, I WILL SEND IT TO YOU.
UM, BUT THE GO THROUGH IT AND LOOK AT IT.
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS.
AND THERE'S ONE OTHER, UM, BILL THAT, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE WELL, I'M AWARE OF THAT HAS NOT PASSED YET.
THE GEORGE FLOYD POLICING ACT THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE, UM, ENFORCED AS WELL.
ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO HELP YOU.
SO I'M SORRY GUYS, FOR TAKING UP ADVOCACY ALWAYS TAKES UP A LOT OF TIME, BUT THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
SO WE'VE COVERED ALL THE COMMITTEES, CORRECT.
WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO OLD BUSINESS CITY COUNCIL RECOMMEND DATION UPDATES.
UM, SOME OF THE UPDATES, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MOVE FOR WAS TO REVISE THE HUBER HEIGHTS WEBSITE WITH A DIVERSITY DIVERSE EQUITY LENS.
CURRENTLY THIS IS BEING WORKED ON THE LEGISLATION AND THE MESSAGING DENOUNCING RACISM IS PROMINENT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE CITY WEBSITE AS REQUESTED.
AND THE CITY IS NOW LOOKING AT NEW SETS OF PICTURES THAT SHOULD, WOULD SHOW OFF A BETTER VIEW OF THE DIVERSITY OF THE CITY.
AND I'M WORKING ON COLLECTING IMAGES TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE.
WE ALSO, UH, RECOMMENDED CREATING A WEBPAGE LAYOUT FOR THE COMMISSION AND WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INCORPORATED ON THE WEBSITE.
WE JUST NEED TO GIVE THAT TO THE CITY AND THEY WILL INCORPORATE IT.
UM, THE THIRD THING WAS TO PROVIDE AN UNBIASED REPORTING PROCESS FOR CITIZENS, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON NOW, STAFF LEADERSHIP BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DIVERSITY TRAINING WAS ALSO ANOTHER ASK.
UH, THE CITY CITY STAFF HAS PARTICIPATED IN LIVE OR WATCH.
THEY PROVIDED VIDEO TWO YEARS AGO FOR DIVERSITY.
SO KATIE IS NOW CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THIS YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ON SCHEDULE AND ALSO LOOKING AT HOW TO GET BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS INVOLVED AS WELL.
KATIE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THAT.
I ALSO DID, UM, EMT TRAINING WITH OUR SUPERVISORS LAST YEAR.
SO THIS IS THE YEAR WE SHOULD DO THE DIVERSITY AND HARASSMENT AGAIN.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THE VIDEO.
WE DID LIE AND HE WOULD CAME LIVE AND WE VIDEOTAPED IT AND SENT IT OUT TO EVERYBODY SERVING UNDER, WATCH IT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
SO JUST TRYING TO GET THAT STUFF.
HAVE THERE BEEN ANY SORT OF DISCUSSIONS OR ANYTHING? UM, DIVERSITY RELATED SINCE THE CURRENT CLIMATE HAS CHANGED? OKAY.
HOW OFTEN DID THEY DO THAT? THE VARSITY TRAINING IS IT, WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT? THERE ISN'T ONE.
WE TRY TO LOOK FOR LIKE EVERY OTHER YEAR.
UM, AND I KNOW POLICE DOES THERE, THERE, I'M GOING TO SAY THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO IT THROUGH THEIR ACCREDITATION.
WE'RE IN PROCESS OF UPDATING OURS NOW, UM, THROUGH THE MANUAL.
SO YEAH, SO IT'S HOPEFULLY GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN GET SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR REVERSELY TRAINED.
DO WE KNOW WHAT, UM, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE TRAINING YESTERDAY? OKAY.
WE, I, CAN YOU AND I CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IF YOU NEED SOME HELP WITH THAT ALSO.
THE PROCLAMATION, OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD THE JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION, UM, WHICH WAS SIGNED LAST MONTH AND THERE IS NO UPDATE ON INDIGENOUS PEOPLE DAY.
SO WE WILL PUSH THAT FORWARD TO GET AN UPDATE
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ON THAT NOR THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT EITHER.SO WE'LL GET AN UPDATE ON THOSE TWO THINGS.
SO THOSE WERE THE REQUESTS THAT WE LAST SUBMITTED TO CITY COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE THINGS? OKAY.
SO IF WE, WHATEVER THE INFORMATION IS THAT YOU WANT ON THE WEBSITE, I KNOW EDUCATION WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EDUCATIONAL SERIES, ALL OF THE INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LINKS TO, UM, RESOURCES, VIDEOS, WEBSITES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AS A MEANS OF EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY.
WE CAN, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE SUBMITTED, PLEASE GET WITH JEAN ON THAT, AS WELL AS ANY OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES, THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU WANT ON YOUR PAGE.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SPECIFIC PAGES SET UP FOR EACH COMMITTEE IS WHAT WE ASKED.
UM, WE KEEP A TRACK OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON OUR WEBSITE, SO THAT, THAT IS VISIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO THAT IS THE UPDATE ON CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS, NEXT ITEM FIVE B PROCESS FOR MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL, JUST TESTIFYING.
SO AS TO FIND SENT OUT THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE PROCESS, AND HOPEFULLY THERE WERE SOME MODIFICATIONS FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT HE, THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT.
AND HE'S GOING TO TALK THROUGH THAT NOW.
UM, JUST TO, UH, NOT REPEAT SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, UM, RECOMMENDATION PROCESS, UH, THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, IT'S JUST BEEN A REVISED, UH, I WOULD SAY IN TWO, THERE ARE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, GRAMMATICAL, UM, CONSISTENT, UH, MODIFICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AS WELL AS VALUE ADDED.
UH, THE VALUE ADDED I WOULD CONSIDER, UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TRACK CHANGED COPIES PARAGRAPH NUMBER THREE, UM, WHICH IS INCLUDING, UH, THE COMMISSION, UH, IN THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS PRIOR TO PRESENTING TO THE CITY, UM, AT LEAST EIGHT DAYS PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION MEETING.
SO TODAY'S THURSDAY PRIOR TO TODAY WOULD BE WEDNESDAY.
UM, SO JUST ESTABLISHING THOSE TIMELINES FOR OURSELVES, AS WELL AS CALLING OUT THAT IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC, UH, TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO REACT ON, THAT IS OUT OF SCOPE WITHIN, WITHIN THE 2030, UH, 30, 24, 39 DAYS, THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE DOCUMENT.
UH, AND THAT'S BEEN, UH, DISCUSSED WITH, WITH SCOTT, UM, THAT IT'S ALSO CALLED OUT IN THAT SPECIFIC COMMISSION.
SO IF THERE'S AN URGENT MATTER AND URGENT, UM, I'M IN A BUSINESS APP WE'RE REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL TO, TO ADDRESS THAT'S NOT WITHIN THAT TIME WINDOW, THEN WE JUST NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE CALLING OUT THAT SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME WITHIN THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF.
UM, SO THAT'S THOSE, THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, MADE TO THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS.
UH, AGAIN, UM, SOME ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, GRAMMATICAL CONSISTENCY, UH, CHANGES, AND THEN THE VALUE ADD OR CHANGE IS, UH, ADDING OURSELVES WITHIN THE COMMISSION PROCESS.
SO, QUICK QUESTION, CAN YOU REMIND ME OF WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE 60 AND 90 DAYS VERSUS THE 24 TO 39? YES.
UM, SO FOR THIS PROCESS, UH, LAST COUNCIL AGENDA THE PROBLEMS, AND I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT IS USING YOUR REAL USERS? UM, SO THIS VERIFICATION PROCESS, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS GET A PHONE.
UH, UM, SO IT'S COMPLEX SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WHERE INNOVATION MAY TAKE LONGER FOR GETTING FROM COMMISSION ALL THE WAY, UH, WHEN IT GETS TO, UH, 39 DAYS JUST BASED OFF OF, UM,
THAT'S JUST PART OF THE EX EXPECTATION EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT.
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UM, IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME ON BOARD AND JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THESE MAY NOT BE, UH, AS QUICKLY AS RESOLVED OR, OR PAST THAT AS, AS SOMEONE WHO MAY THINK.AND SO IT'S JUST A PART OF THAT EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR, FOR SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO GET THROUGH AND EXECUTED FOR THE CITY.
WHAT IS OUR EXPECTATION TO HEAR SOMETHING BACK FROM CITY COUNCIL ON OUR RECOMMENDATION? SO THAT'S, THAT IS YEAH.
CALLED OUT, UH, ON, UM, STEP FIVE, UH, IDENTIFYING THAT, UM, IF, IF WE MUST REQUEST, UH, UH, A DEADLINE, WE CAN PUT IT INSIDE OF THE DOCUMENT.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT AGAIN IS, IS COMING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT ONCE WE PULL, ONCE WE PASS, OR ONCE WE DRAFT UP THE RECOMMENDATION, AND IF THERE'S A DEADLINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE, THEN THAT'S CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY THAT WAY.
THAT'S ALSO A PART OF THE EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT FOR OURSELVES, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND AS WELL AS A POINT OF REFERENCE TO GO BACK TO, UM, FOR ACCOUNTABILITY REASONS, BUT, AND IN STEP FIVE, UH, WITHIN THE FLOW CHART IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
THE 30 DAY DEADLINE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THEN I THINK THIRD 30 DAY DEADLINE IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, CHAIRWOMAN, UH, YOLANDA REQUESTED TO BE ADDED.
UM, BUT IF THERE ARE OTHER, ANY OTHER DEADLINES, UH, IT'S JUST SAYING, MAKE SURE THAT WE CALL IT OUT FOR, FOR ACCOUNTABILITY REASONS, BUT YET, ARE WE SAYING THAT ONCE WE DO, UH, SUBMIT THE RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU WILL, THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY, IT COULD TAKE UP TO 24 TO 39 DAYS RIGHT BEFORE WE WOULDN'T GET A RESPONSE.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE MAY REQUEST A 30 DAY FOR THEM TO RESPOND, THEY STILL HAVE UP UNTIL THAT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 24 39 DAYS TO ACTUALLY COME BACK, WOULD THEY RESPOND RIGHT? SO THEY HAVE A SET SCHEDULE AND IT, DEPENDING ON THE URGENCY OF THAT MATTERS, I THINK WE'VE SEEN HOW A CITY COUNCIL CAN EXECUTE EMERGENCY SESSIONS TO ADDRESS SENSITIVE ISSUES.
AND SO DEPENDING ON THE SENSITIVITY, THE URGENCY OF, OF THE, THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF, UM, AND AS WELL AS COMMUNITY INPUT PUSH, UH, ACHIEVING AN AGGRESSIVE DEADLINE CAN, CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE, LOOKING AT HOW THE, THE MEETINGS ARE PLACED WITHIN THE MONTHS OF THE CALENDAR MONTH, 24 TO 38, 39 DAYS IS, IS AT MINIMUM, WHAT, WHAT CAN BE, WHAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED, BUT 30 DAYS IS, IS AN AGGRESSIVE, URGENT REQUESTS THAT WE'RE PURSUING BASED ON THE SENSITIVITY OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
I GUESS I VIEWED IT AS 24 IS A MINIMUM, BUT IT WOULD BE, BUT IT WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 39 DAYS THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY, YEAH.
WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF RESPONSE TO THE RECOMMENDATION.
SOMETIMES SOME TYPE OF RESPONSE.
UM, AND, AND, UH, WE, WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER HERE THAT CAN PROVIDE MORE INSIGHT OF SHE IS SHE WOULD LIKE TO, BUT I DID, DEPENDING ON THE COMPLEXITY OF IT.
AND IT COULD BE, UM, A RECOMMENDATION THAT GETS THROUGH THE PROCESS RATHER QUICKLY, THAT DOESN'T COME BACK WITH CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL DATA INPUT THAT MAY EXTEND THAT TIMELINE.
IF IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD REQUEST, WE HAVE OUR INFORMATION TOGETHER.
THE RECOMMENDATION PACKAGE OF THE LOGIC THAT IS SUPPORTED, THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF IS SOUND THING, FACILITATING THAT DISCUSSION FOR CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE RATHER STRAIGHT FORWARD.
LIKE AS I THINK YOU AND I MAY HAVE DISCUSSED THIS A WHILE BACK WAS THAT I WOULD AT LEAST EXPECT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD EITHER THEY WOULD COME BACK WITHIN THAT 24 TO 39 DAYS EITHER SAYING WE ACCEPT, AND THERE ARE RISKS.
HERE'S OUR RESPONSE WE DENIED, OR WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.
WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE SOME SORT OF RESPONSE TO THE RECOMMENDATION.
EITHER AGAIN, EITHER THEY ACCEPTED, THEY DENY IT OR THEY, THEY NEED MORE INFORMATION.
WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING, RIGHT.
SO AGAIN, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE KEY, I GUESS, ONE OF THE KEY, UH, IDEAS WITHIN THE DOCUMENT IS THAT WHEN, WHEN WE'RE DRAFTING GET, UH, THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE CREATIVITY ON GETTING THIS ACCOMPLISHED AS LINE WITHIN DRAFTERS OURSELVES, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DEFINED PROCESS BECAUSE EACH SITUATION IS GONNA BE UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF, IF THERE'S AN OFFICIAL ACTION IN REQUESTING FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE, UH, AGAIN, NOT LONDON, STEP FIVE, IF THEY'RE EITHER TO ACCEPT, DENY, REQUEST FOR INFORMATION WE NEED, UH, WE NEED TO CALL OUT WITHIN THAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION, YOU ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE, UH, OR RESPOND OR, OR, OR A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME AS WELL.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME FORESIGHT WITHIN THE COMMISSION OR THE COMMITTEE MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY, TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, FIGURE OUT HOW THE, THE SESSIONS ARE SET UP TO GET AN IDEA OF WHEN, WHEN THEY EXPECT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION TO BE APPROVED OR RESPONDED IN SOME WAY, WHETHER THEY BE EX RE
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WHETHER IT BE ACCEPT AN OR REQUESTING FURTHER INFORMATION.BUT WHEN YOU SAY WHAT ACTION WE WANT THEM TO TAKE, THE ACTION WE WANT THEM TO TAKE WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PROVIDE.
SO THE ACTION THAT WE CAN ACTION THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO TAKE IS TO RESPOND WITHIN THOSE THREE CATEGORIES TO ACCEPT A NONREVERSIBLE RESCUE REQUEST FOR THE INFORMATION.
SO, UH, UH, IT'S AGAIN, IT'S WE TRIED TO CONDENSE THE LANGUAGE, PROVIDE A LOT OF ROOM FOR FLEXIBILITY FOR OURSELVES TO, TO DRAFT AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, AND PLAN STRATEGICALLY ON HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO EXECUTE THE RECOMMENDATIONS DEPENDING ON THE FLEXIBILITY OR COMPLEXITY OF IT.
UM, AND, AND HOW WE WOULD LIKE COMMISSION THE CITY COUNCIL TO, TO RESPOND WITHIN THOSE THREE CATEGORIES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S AT THE BELIEFS.
THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL AREAS OR SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES THAT WE MAY, YOU KNOW, FIND THROUGH, UM, THROUGH LEARNING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE OBESE AT THREE THAT, THAT CHAIRWOMAN AND YOLANDA HIGHLIGHTED THAT YOU'D LIKE TO INCLUDE WITH THEM, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS ITSELF, I GUESS.
I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO SPECIFY HOW WE WANT THEM TO RESPOND.
WE JUST WANT THEM TO, I GUESS IN MY MIND, WE WANT THEM TO RESPOND WITH ONE OF THE THREE, RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO SPECIFY THAT I WANT YOU TO RESPOND THIS WAY.
I JUST, I'VE GIVEN YOU A RECOMMENDATION.
WE WANT TO HEAR BACK NOW FROM CITY COUNCIL.
ARE YOU GOING TO, ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT RECOMMENDATION IF YOU'RE NOT WHY OR AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THEN SO THAT YOU CAN, THEY MAKE A DECISION ON YES, I'M GOING TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND, AND CARRY IT OUT, OR I'M GOING TO DENY IT, BUT FOR THESE REASONS, RIGHT.
I'M JUST, THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IS RIGHT.
WE SUBMIT THE RECOMMENDATION, OUR WAITING FOR A RESPONSE.
SO, I MEAN, AS WE SET THE RECOMMENDATION, IT'S, IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S IT'S BEING DISCUSSED OR IN, DURING THEIR WORKING GROUP SESSIONS.
SO WHATEVER THE DISCUSSIONS THEY'RE HAVING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR THOSE WHO INVOLVE THE COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO ARE IN TUNE TO THOSE WORKING SESSIONS, IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION, SHOULDN'T BE BLINDSIDED ON, UH, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED, DENIED, OR REQUESTING FURTHER INFORMATION BASED OFF OF THE DISCUSSIONS OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH, WITHIN THE WORKING SESSION, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE DISCUSSING SPECIFIC MATERIAL RELATED TO THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UH, AGAIN, UM, THE THREE CATEGORIES, UH, THERE CAN BE SPECIFIC ACTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO TAKE OR RESPOND TO IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, UH, AND THEN LISTENING INTO THE WORKING SESSION.
AND SO WE'RE PROVIDING INSIGHT ON, ON THE LEANINGS THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY HAVE, OR THE RECOMMENDATION TO, TO PLAN AHEAD IF THERE, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES THAT, THAT WE MAY BE, UH, HINDERED BY.
SO QUESTION, IF THE, UM, IF, IF THIS PASSES IS, IS THE COUNCIL RESTRICTED TO THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, UH, TO ACCEPT, DENY, OR TO, UM, TO ASK FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, CAN THEY NOT MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON A RECOMMENDATION? MAYBE THEY HAVE SOMEONE ON A COUNCIL WHO MIGHT HAVE EXPERIENCE IN A PARTICULAR AREA WHERE WE MAY NOT, OR WHOEVER THE RECOMMENDER MAY NOT, IS THAT OPTION AVAILABLE WELL TO THEM 100%.
SO THE MOTION I WAS GOING TO GO FOR TWO, STILL REPLICATES THE EXACT SAME MOTION FROM LAST MONTH, WHICH INCORPORATES THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION PROCESS, IT'S AS A BILLING DOCUMENT TO ALLOW US THE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED BASED OFF OF LEARNING EXPERIENCES FOR THE COMMISSION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE RED IS THEY MAY COME BACK WITH A MODIFICATION TO THE RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? YEAH.
I THINK, YEAH, THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
UH, SO WE WANT TO MODIFY A SET, DENY AND MODIFY A REQUEST, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
KATE, MS. BAKER, THE CALENDAR WORK SESSION.
AND IT HAS TO DO THE TWO READINGS.
SO, SO I, THE, THE, THE ONE PAGE DOCUMENT THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU WAS PREVIOUSLY A FIVE-PAGE DOCUMENT THAT WENT INTO DETAIL, UH, AND TO, TO HELP WITH, WITH CONDENSING THE LANGUAGE ITSELF, UM, AND TO PROVIDE US THE FLEXIBILITY AS WELL, TO DO THE PORT BEFORE THE FOUR PLANNING ON IT.
UM, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, UM, THEN, BUT, BUT, BUT YES, I, THE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR, FROM BEGINNING TO END,
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INCLUDING THE WORK SESSIONS, GOING THROUGH YOUR READING SESSIONS, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SCOTT AND I TALKED ABOUT AND IT WAS HIS, WHAT IS WITHIN THE EMAIL ITSELF.UM, BUT IT, AGAIN, IT IS TO PROVIDE SOME, SOME FORESIGHTED PLANNING ON OUR BEHALF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET IT FROM THE ORIGINATED POINTING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
SO CALLING IT OUT WITH, WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION ITSELF.
AND THEN ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME THINGS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ARE JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY.
AND SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
SO THIS PROCESS WOULD BE RESERVED FOR WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS STEFAN.
THIS IS, THIS IS AN INTERNAL, UH, COMMISSION PROCESS FOR WHAT, WHAT TYPES OF RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS? SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO TYPES OF RECOMMENDATIONS, TWO TYPE OF ACTIONS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT FALL WITHIN, WITHIN THE SCOPES OF THIS PROCESS.
AND THAT'S OUTLINED WITHIN, UH, THE THIRD PARAGRAPH AS INFORMATION AND ACTION ITEMS. UM, AND THOSE ARE SPECIFIC, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE CITY PROCESS THAT SCOTT CALLED OUT.
SO AS, AS TERRIBLE CHAIRWOMAN WOMAN, UH, YOLANDA JUST, UM, REFERENCED, UH, INFORMATION ITEMS, UM, MAY JUST BE A REQUEST, UH, RELATED TO INTERNAL DATA POLICIES, PROCEDURES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TO HIGHLIGHT, OR JUST LOOK INTO SPECIFICALLY, AND MAY NOT NEED A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION OR REQUEST, UH, FOR REQUESTING AN ACTION ITEM ON BEHALF.
SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BETWEEN THE TWO IS THAT THE INFORMATION THAT ITEM IS, IS JUST, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING LIKE THAT A WISE OR, OR A POLICY OR, OR MATERIAL WISE.
UM, AND, AND THOSE WOULD TYPICALLY BE PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD REQUESTS.
AND THEN I THINK THAT, UH, THE CITY PERSONNEL HAVE BEEN PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD AND EASY ON SENDING EMAILS, REQUESTING THESE INFORMATION ITEMS, SPINNING IT BACK TO US.
UH, AND THEN THE SECOND ITEMS, THE ACTION ITEMS, AND THAT'S WHERE, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS, IS DIRECTING CITY, A CITY PERSON NOW TO, TO TAKE HOME SPECIFIC ACTION RELATED TO POLICY OR, UH, CITY RELATED, UH, EVENTS THAT, THAT WE'RE DIRECTING, UH, SO THAT WE'RE ASKING SINCE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS, TO, TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER OR OTHER SENIOR LEADERS WITHIN, WITHIN THE CITY TO EXECUTE ON OUR BEHALF.
SO WHAT ABOUT LIKE THE GEORGE FLOYD MEMORIAL, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? THOSE THINGS ARE NOT EXPECTED LIKE THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, THOSE THINGS, OR ARE THOSE THINGS GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS? SURE.
SO THAT WILL FALL UNDER THE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. SO REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A POLICY OR PROCESS CHANGE.
SO THE THINGS THAT REQUIRE THAT POLICY PROCESSES, UM, LIKE THE REFORM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE EEO DATA, THINGS OF THAT NATURE WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL TO BE, AND EVEN THOSE THINGS WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE SLIDES.
CAUSE THAT'S MY CONCERN, MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, OKAY.
I'M JUST AD SERVING ON ANOTHER COMMISSION.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO A RECOMMENDING OR AN ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THIS FORMAL, MY CONCERN IS THAT, IS THIS GOING TO PIGEON HOLE US FROM DOING SOME THINGS THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO IN A MORE TIMELY FASHION? SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU SAID, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S URGENT OR AN EMERGENCY THAT REQUIRES AN IMMEDIATE ACTION THAT WE NEED TO SPECIFY THAT WELL, SEE, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS THAT THIS HASN'T, THIS, THIS, THIS IS JUST THE RECORD PROCESS.
IT'S THE PROCESS FOR, FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE COURTS AND THE CONDITIONS.
IT WAS NOT THE PROCESS FOR THE BOARD I WAS ON.
I WAS THE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD.
SO, SO TALKING TO CITY MANAGER THAT, AND TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS THE SPECIFIC I OTHER, OTHER THAN, OTHER THAN PROVIDING A, A, A TANGIBLE PACKAGE, UH, PER SE, UH, EMAIL THAT, THAT COINCIDES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WASN'T A PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING FROM COMMISSION TO WORK SESSION TO CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, TO GETTING IT APPROVED AND DISCUSSED, IF IT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTING POLICY OR PROCEDURE, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT THAT'S BEEN THE PROCESS.
THAT MAKES SENSE IF IT'S IMPACTING POLICY AND PROCEDURE, ABSOLUTE RIGHTS, THAT'S ACTION.
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BUT I DON'T WANT PROCEDURAL STUFF TO KEEP US FROM DOING THE REAL WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO AS A COMMISSION.I THINK THIS IS GREAT IN THEORY.
UM, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF OTHER BOARDS AND THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED TO CITY.
THEY'RE DOING ASTHMA MUCH WORK, IF NOT MORE THAN WE ARE, AND THEY'RE JUST ROLLING THEIR SLEEVES UP AND GETTING THE WORK DONE.
AND I DON'T WANT US TO GET SO CAUGHT UP IN THIS STUFF THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE WORK DONE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO THE, UH, THE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE A CITIZEN, RIGHT.
THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
SO WE NEED TO SEE A NEED TO TAKE ACTION RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE THAT SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY CREATE THAT GROUP.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M WITH YOU, RIGHT.
YOU JUST GOT TO MAYBE BE ABLE TO DRAW THE DISTRICTS BETWEEN, I SAY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.
BUT HONESTLY, WE NEED RESOURCES.
OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY POLICY CHANGES OR CITY POLICY CHANGES, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE STATES.
I THINK THE, A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS AGAIN, IS THE BLACK OWNED, UM, BUSINESS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE JUST PASSED.
UH, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE WORKING IT FOR A WHILE, IT PASSED WITHIN THE COMMISSION ITSELF PRETTY, PRETTY RAPIDLY.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR THE COMMISSION AND INDICATED THROUGH THE VOTING, THROUGH OF ASSAULT.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S IMPACTFUL AND SOMETHING THAT WE ACCOMPLISH RATHER BROTHER QUICKLY, BUT LIKE, LIKE ERIC, JUST REFERENCES.
IF THERE'S POLICY CHANGES, THAT'S IMPACTING THE CITY OR REQUESTING RESOURCES, UM, JUST NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE PLANNING AND FORESIGHT ON, ON WHAT EXACTLY IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO, TO GET IT FROM FROM ORIGINAL POINT ORIGINALLY TO POINT TO END POINT FOR, FOR US.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WASN'T, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT DEFINED.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT, NOT, UH, WRITTEN ANYWHERE.
AND, AND I, I THINK THAT THE RESOLUTION FOR, FOR, FOR, UH, DECLARING EMBRACE SUBSTANCE RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, OF HOW WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE, UH, IF, HOW WE COULD HAVE HAD A LITTLE FORESIGHT AND UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS ITSELF AND, AND MADE A LITTLE MORE, LITTLE MORE SMOOTH, UM, SMOOTHING TRANSITION THROUGH, THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS ITSELF.
BUT I WILL ALSO SPEAK HIGHLY OF CITY COUNCIL IN THAT THEY WANT US TO BE AN ADVISORY BOARD.
SO THE ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY, THE ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY IS WHEN WE GO TO THEM WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, AS YOLANDA SAID, WE'RE NOT REALLY ASKING PERMISSION.
WE'RE SAYING IN OUR EXPERTISE, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD ADVISE SHOULD HAPPEN IN CASE NODDING HER HEAD.
THAT'S WHAT CITY COUNCIL WANTS US TO BE.
THEY DON'T WANT US REALLY DUMPING A LOT OF STUFF IN THEIR LAP AND ASKING THEM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
AND SO WE HAVE TO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING ON THE OTHER COMMISSION I SERVED ON, WE ALSO RECOMMENDED AND WE ADVISE, AND WE WEREN'T WORKING ON POLICY AND PROCEDURE, BUT WE ADVISE THEM, WE WENT TO A MEETING, WHAT MUCH LIKE YOLANDA AND I DID.
WE SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS GO, UH, GO FOR IT.
YOU KNOW? SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SITTING IN THAT ADVISORY CAPACITY.
WELL, THIS IS, I MEAN, THIS IS ALSO FOR US AS WELL.
WHEN, WHEN, UH, WHEN WE WERE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PAST, UM, WE WERE PROVIDING, UH, UH, VERBAL, UM, SUMMARIES OF THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF.
AND SO, UH, WHEN WE'RE COMING UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND AS, AS YOLANDA PROVIDED THE EMAIL, UH, SUMMARIES, IT ALLOWS US TO REVIEW, UM, THE, THE DETAILS THAT ARE BEHIND THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF, BECAUSE, UH, THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING ON, ON THE, THE COMMUNITY ITSELF IS VERY DEEP AND MEANINGFUL.
UH, AND, AND WHEN WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE OVERALL AWARE OF ALL OF THOSE THINKING PROCESSES THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE RATIONALE UNDOCUMENTED FOR US, NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT IF THEY'RE CITIZENS THAT WERE, THAT ARE HERE AND, AND ARE INTERESTED IN ON THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION, THEY CAN REFER TO, UM, THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS BECAUSE WE ARE, AS YOU SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTING IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THAT CLEARLY AND TRANSPARENT WITH, WITHIN OUR, OUR RANKS AS WELL AS WITHIN THE CITY.
SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, UM, JUST, JUST TO HELP WITH FACILITATING AND LEARNING ABOUT THE MATERIAL AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT REBUILDING GOING ITSELF.
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I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS TO FIND ON THE NUMBER FIVE, THE CDCC MUST REQUEST A 30 DAY DEADLINE ON A RESPONSE AFTER CITY COUNCIL VOTES, SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.THAT'S PROBABLY JUST A JUST MODIFICATION OF MINE.
MIGHT HAVE ONE ON THAT SENTENCE THAT JUST SO I DID THE, THE EMAIL THAT YOU SENT WAS PROVIDED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR SENTENCES THAT WERE SPECIFIC TO, TO THIS ADDITION, UM, TO CONDENSE IT AND TO KEEP IT IN A ONE PAGE, I REVISED IT AND MODIFIED IT TO BE CLEAR AND CONCISE.
HOWEVER, CLEAR, CONCISE IS NOT THE CASE IN THAT SPECIFIC SENTENCE.
UM, BUT IT'S BASICALLY JUST SAYING, UH, 30 DAYS, IF YOU'RE WANTING A DEADLINE, A 30 DAY DEADLINE, WE JUST NEED TO, WE NEED TO NEED TO ASK FOR THAT FROM CITY COUNCIL, AFTER, AFTER CITY COUNCIL VOTES, IF YOU REMOVE CONFUSED THAT SENTENCE, REMOVE ON A RESPONSE AFTER CITY COUNCIL VOTES AND JUST SAYS, UH, C DECK MUST REQUEST A 30 DAY DEADLINE, REMOVE THAT IF FOR WANTING A DEADLINE, LIKE ERIC WAS RE WHEREVER, BUT JUST REFERENCING TO YOU FOR WANTING A SPECIFIC ACTION WITHIN A SPECIFIC DEADLINE, 30 DAYS WITH SPECIFICALLY IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU CALLED OUT WITHIN THE EMAIL THAT I WAS TRYING TO INCLUDE IN THERE.
IF WE'RE WANTING A 30 DAY DEADLINE, THEN WE JUST NEED TO REQUEST IT.
IF YOU REMOVE THE LAST, UH, SEVEN WORDS WITHIN THAT SENTENCE AND JUST, JUST LEAVE IT 30 DAY DEADLINE, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S THE OVERALL INTENTION OF, OF THAT SENTENCE.
I THINK WE NEED SOME MO YEAH, WE'LL NEED SOME MODIFY THAT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE REASON I, IN THE, IN THE MOTION THAT I SAID LAST MONTH, AS WELL AS IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE SAME MOTION THIS MONTH IS THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE MODIFICATIONS.
THERE ARE THIS, THIS PROCESS, THE PROCESS HASN'T BEEN WRITTEN BEFORE.
IT HASN'T BEEN DOCUMENTED BEFORE, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LEARNING AS WE GO.
AND THAT 30 DAY DEADLINE RETURNS, 30 DAYS, 32 DAYS.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT SPECIFIC TERM LIVING IS, IS WHAT I'M CALLING GOUT TO ALLOW US THAT FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND MODIFICATIONS AS DEEMED NECESSARY MOVING FORWARD.
IS THIS LIKE A LIVING, WORKING DOCUMENT? PRETTY MUCH.
OKAY, SO YOU ARE REQUESTING, OKAY.
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS DOCUMENT FOR USE WITHIN THE CDC CAC AS LIVING DOCUMENT, UNTIL REPLACED BY THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSION HANDBOOK.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSITION AT THAT PASSES? ALL RIGHT.
WHAT'S NEXT EEO DATA TRACKING RECOMMENDATION.
LAST MONTH, UM, WE DISCUSS, OR MAYBE TWO MEETINGS AGO THAT THE CITY RIGHT NOW FOR THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS, WHEN SOMEONE GOES ONLINE TO APPLY FOR A JOB, WE ARE NOT TRACKING EEO DATA.
AND WE MADE A REQUEST TO THE CITY OR WHAT, LIKE TO BRING FORTH A REQUEST TO THE CITY TO START TRACKING DATA.
AND I SENT OUT A COUPLE OF INFORMATIONAL, UM, ARTICLES ABOUT THAT.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT IS TO TRACK WHO'S APPLYING FOR OUR JOBS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING FAIR HIRING PRACTICES, TO ENSURE THAT WE DO HAVE A DIVERSE POPULATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING FOR OUR JOBS, AND IF NOT, TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS WHY, UM, AND IF IT'S PART OF OUR RECRUITING PROCESS OR HOW WE'RE TARGETING THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT DATA WOULD GIVE US INFORMATION ON WHO'S APPLYING FOR OUR JOBS WHO WE'RE HIRING, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT UTILIZING ANY DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES IN OUR HIRING PROCESS.
AND IT ALSO GIVES US SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN TERMS OF OUR RECRUITING AND HIRING PRACTICES.
SO I'VE BROUGHT, I AM BRINGING FORTH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE IMPLEMENT OR HAVE THE CITY TO START TRACKING EEO DATA AS PART OF THEIR
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APPLICATION PROCESS.AND ALSO TO ANALYZE THAT DATA AFTER POSITIONS FOR THOSE POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN AS WE HIRE FOR THOSE POSITIONS, ANY QUESTIONS IT'S VOLUNTARY.
SO WE THINK ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER APPLIED FOR A JOB ONLINE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU PUT IN YOUR INFORMATION, YOU PUT IN YOUR RESUME, BUT IT'S A VOLUNTARY.
YOU'VE BEEN WORKING AT THE SAME POSITION FOREVER, RIGHT.
ERIC AND THE COMPANY FOR 30 YEARS.
BUT WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A JOB ONLINE, OF COURSE, YOU SEND ME YOUR RESUME, YOUR INFORMATION, BUT THERE IS A SEPARATE BODY OF INFORMATION THAT YOU THAT'S VOLUNTARY, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT.
SO, AND I SENT THIS OUT EARLIER, BUT IT INCLUDES LIKE YOUR, UM, YOUR RACE AND MALE OR FEMALE, YOUR VETERAN STATUS, UM, ETHNICITY.
SO THAT'S THE DATA THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.
FIRST OF ALL,
SOMETIMES YOU CAN, JAIL ADDRESS IS PRETTY MUCH WHERE THEY ARE FEMALE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT EXACTLY.
JUST THOSE FEW KIDS DIDN'T WANT TO FILL IT OUT.
SO HOW THE BAG, WELL, I THINK IT'S, AND THAT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE TOO, WHICH WE DEFINITELY WOULD NEED TO HAVE THAT ON THE WEBSITE IS THAT THAT INFORMATION IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM YOUR APPLICATION.
SO TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF DATA, BUT PEOPLE THINK THAT IF I'M ANSWERING THIS QUESTIONS, THEN THEY KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE I'M 50 YEARS OLD.
I DON'T THINK I WOULD WANT TO FEEL THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY.
HOWEVER, I THINK THAT WE, WE NEED TO POINT THAT OUT, THIS IS VOLUNTARY INFORMATION.
THIS IS WHY WE TRACK THIS INFORMATION FOR FAIR HIRING PRACTICES.
AND SO THAT WE'RE NOT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE.
SO WE NEED TO ADD AN EDUCATIONAL KIND OF PARAGRAPH TO THAT PORTION, BUT IT IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY TO SAY, I CHOOSE NOT TO ANSWER IT'S I CHOOSE NOT TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
THAT IS AN OPTION YOU CAN OPT OUT.
SO THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION PROMOTION.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD, A RECOMMENDATION AS SUBMITTED, UM, IN VIA EMAIL TO YOU ALL TO IMPLEMENT EEO DATA TRACKING.
SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSITION MS. STEVENS? IF I CAN HAVE ONE QUESTION, I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME THING.
SO YOU CAN, YOU'VE SUBMITTED A FORM, UM, THAT I'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH LEGAL CAUSE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, SO WE'VE GOT SOME STUFF TOO.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS ON THERE THAT PROBABLY WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT.
SO I'D HAVE TO HAVE LEGAL LOOK AT THAT TOO.
UM, BECAUSE THIS INFORMATION DOES NOT GO TO THE EOC AND THE INFORMATION THAT GOES TO THE EOC IS THE ACTUAL POST HIRE, NOT THE PRE HIRE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S UNDERSTOOD TO PEOPLE THAT WE'RE NOT LIKE WHAT YOU SAID.
WE'RE NOT TRACKING THAT TO GO WITH THEIR APPLICATION.
SO IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO SUBMIT? SO I CAN START KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.
CAUSE YOU SAID IT'S THE SAME ETHNICITY, SAME RACE, SAME GENDER.
THE ONLY THING WOULD BE, I THINK YOU HAD ONE THERE, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL GUIDELINES, WHICH THAT, THAT INFORMATION WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO FILL OUT THE, THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
SO IT'S KIND OF, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE CORRECT LANGUAGE.
THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S DIFFERENT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT US TO WORK ON.
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YES.THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO DO IS TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT TOTALLY ANONYMOUS BECAUSE I CAN'T HAVE THEM TOGETHER.
AND WE HAD, I MEAN, AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OF CITIES AROUND US THAT ARE TRACKING.
SO WE CAN BENCHMARK OFF OF THEM.
DO WE HAVE A POLICY, UH, EEO POLICY, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER, WHICH WE'RE REVISING AS WE'RE DOING THE MANUAL.
SO IT IS THERE, BUT IT NEEDS TWEAKING.
I'LL PROBABLY ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT.
WHAT'S THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA? GENE JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION.
WE HAVE A JUNE TEAM PROCLAMATION.
AND THAT WAS SIGNED LAST MONTH.
UM, AND UH, ACKNOWLEDGED THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
OUR NEW BUSINESS, THE SIX, A MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION INFORMATION.
UM, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION ON THE INSTITUTE FOR LIVABLE AND EQUITABLE COMMUNITIES AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ACADEMY.
THE MV RPC IS STARTING IN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ACADEMY, WHICH IS A NINE MONTH PROGRAM FOR THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
SO IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE OR ON OUR COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN THAT, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
I'VE SHARED INFORMATION WITH THE COMMISSION, BUT THERE IS AN APPLICATION PROCESS.
THE APPLICATION DEADLINE IS JULY THE SEVENTH.
THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR, UM, STEERING COMMITTEE PEOPLE TO, UH, BE A PART OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ACADEMY AS WELL.
SO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, LET ME KNOW.
YES, MS. BAKER, THERE'S NO FEE, NO, THERE'S NO COST FOR THAT.
ITEM SIX B COMMISSION STAKEHOLDERS.
WE ARE DEVELOPING A LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS AND WE NEED HELP FROM ALL OF THE COMMITTEES TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
SO WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IS WHEN WE'RE HAVING, UM, THINGS SUCH AS OUR EDUCATIONAL FORUMS OR ANY INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO DISSEMINATE AND SHARE, WE WANT TO HAVE A LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS, A, UM, KIND OF A DISTRIBUTION LIST AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN EASILY GET INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE.
WE ALSO WANT TO START BUILDING MORE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CONNECTED OR GETTING CONNECTED WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK ON THE CHAMBER.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE ROTARY HERE.
SO THERE'S ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING WITH IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO START A LIST OR A DOCUMENT OF A GOOGLE DOCS, GOSH, OF A COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND, UM, PARTNERSHIPS, IT, PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS WHERE ANYTIME WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, WE REALLY FOCUS ON HOW WE GET THE WORD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, UM, AND IT'S BEEN PRETTY ACTIVE, BUT WE GOT TO DO MORE, A LOT MORE.
SO WE'RE BUILDING THAT, WHICH GOES ALONG WITH ITEM SIX C OH, ANY QUESTIONS, ONE COMMISSION STAKEHOLDERS.
I THINK AS WE COLLECT PEOPLE'S INFORMATION AT THOSE DIFFERENT VENUES, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT LIST IS NOT BEING SHARED OUTSIDE OF THIS BODY FOR THE PURPOSES OF COMMUNICATING FURTHER FROM THIS BODY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I MEAN, I WOULD FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE IF SOMEBODY WAS UPSET WITH US BECAUSE THEY GOT THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION FROM US BECAUSE SOMEBODY ON THE COMMISSION DID SOMETHING WITH IT OTHER THAN FOR THE PURPOSE THAT IT WAS INTENDED.
AND ANYTHING THAT WE DISSEMINATE, IT SHOULD BE PRIVATE VCC FOR COMMISSION BUSINESS ONLY.
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SOME SORT OF A, LIKE A NEWSLETTER OR SOMETHING, WHICH WE NEED A SOCIAL MEDIA INTERN, UH, MARKETING.SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN DOING SOME VOLUNTEER WORK FOR THE COMMISSION AS A MARKETING INTERN, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
BUT YES, THE SAFETY WORK, UM, LIKE IF YOU'RE WILLING TO BE THAT WORK, UH, LIKE OVER LIKE SUPERVISING AND PROJECT OR SO WE CAN CONNECT WITH THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY CAN LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS TO DO THEIR INTERNSHIP, BUT THEY HAVEN'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WILL OVERSEE THEIR WORK AND SIGN OFF ON THEIR PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT SUPERVISOR ROLE WITH AN INTERN, I CAN REACH OUT TO OUR COLLAGEN BUSINESS AND IT GETS YOU CONNECTED.
CAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR
I THINK WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT BETWEEN THE CHAIR AND THE CO-CHAIR.
UM, LAST ITEM, 2022 COMMISSION EVENTS CALENDAR.
SO THIS IS MOVING FORWARD FOR 2022.
I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW THINGS ON THE CALENDAR ALREADY.
UM, BUT IDEALLY WE WILL HAVE OUR CALENDAR READY BY OCTOBER MID Q4 FOR 2022.
SO WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THAT, ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS AND THE IDEAS.
UM, WE NEED TO FLESH THAT OUT, PUT IT IN WRITING AND START WORKING MATT, BECAUSE WE, WE WANT TO, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR CALENDAR TOGETHER.
NOT JUST EVENTS, BUT YOU KNOW, ANY PROJECTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT IS EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE.
THERE'S, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR VISITORS TODAY.
IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, MY NAME IS TRACY GRAY 20 YEAR RESIDENT, AND I WAS GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THIS TO ME.
I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
AND YOU SAID ALSO, UM, HUBRIS, STICKY GOT HERE CAUSE OF RIGHT PAT AS A VERY SMALL TRIAL AND UH, CAME BACK AFTER COLLEGE.
UM, AND FACEBOOK IS EFFECTIVE.
THAT'S WHERE I FIND OUT ABOUT I DO FOLLOW YOUR PAGE.
THAT DOES WORK WELL AND EXCITED ABOUT IT IS WONDERFUL.
BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I WANTED TO CHECK WITH, I WAS HOPING BRIAN WAS HERE.
UM, BUT UM, ON SPEAKING OF FACEBOOK, I DELETED AND BANNED A FEW PEOPLE THIS WEEK, UM, BECAUSE OF VERY RUDE AND RACIST COMMENTS.
SO AM I DOING SOMETHING? I MEAN LIKE, CAUSE I KNOW IT'S A PUBLIC CITY THING.
AM I DOING SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THERE AN ISSUE WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, COUNCIL PEOPLE ABOUT BANNING, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING, UH, COUNCIL PEOPLE WITH, UM, ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND I GUESS THAT WAS AN ISSUE OF, BECAUSE THEY WERE WALKING EACH OTHER FROM THEIR FACEBOOK PAGES AND STUFF.
AND I THOUGHT OF THAT AFTER I REMOVED THE COMMENTS AND WE DID, AND IT'S ON THE FACEBOOK THAT SAYS THAT COMMENTS, THE ONLY COMMENTS TO, TO BE ON HERE ARE THOSE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL.
SO WE HAVEN'T WRITTEN DOWN IN OUR ABOUT THAT.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT, I DON'T WANT, BECAUSE I KNOW THE PERSON THAT I BLOCKED IS, IS IN THE NEWS NOW.
UM, BUT, UM, FOR THE, THE JANUARY SIX THING, UM, BUT, UM, I DON'T, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE AN ISSUE BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY BROUGHT IT UP.
SO, I MEAN, IS THAT GOING TO CAUSE A THING? UM, IF I, IF WE BLOCK PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING OUTWARDLY RACIST AND RUDE AND TROLLS
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I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AFTER HE OKAY.BECAUSE HE, HE WAS RUDE AND I, AS SOON AS I SAW HIM POSTED, I, I REMOVED IT AND BLOCKED IT.
CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO NEED FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
I DON'T MIND DISCUSSIONS, BUT THEY WERE BEING OUTWARDLY.
I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AFTER I REMOVED HIM AND I THOUGHT, DARN IT, I SHOULD HAVE CHECKED BEFORE, BUT HE WAS, HE WAS BEING VERY, UM, AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHER THAT WERE BEING VERY, VERY DISGUSTING PRACTICALLY ON THE DIALOGUE THAT I THINK THAT, UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH US BANNING IN BLACK AND PEOPLE, ANYTHING THAT CREATES DIVISIVENESS IN OUR CITY IS NOT WELCOMED.
AND I JUST, I, I JUST WANTED TO, I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN BANNING.
I DID EVERYTHING TO THEM RIGHT AWAY.
BUT MY THING WAS, I REMEMBER THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION CAUSE HE WAS A PARTY OF THIS PARTICULAR WAS A PARTY OF THAT CONVERSATION WHEN IT HAPPENED WITH THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL PERSON AND ALL THAT RECALL NOTICE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING.
THAT'S GOING TO GET THE COMMISSION IN TROUBLE OR THE CITY IN TROUBLE BEING, UH, SEEING IT'S A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMISSION, WHICH IS A CITY.
THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A PROTOCOL, WHATEVER THE SOCIAL MEDIA PROTOCOL IS,
I THINK THERE'S ALSO THIS PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF, UM, IT'S OUR SITE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN WHAT IS CIVIL INDECENT ON OUR SITE.
AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUT OR ALLOWED TO PERPETUATE ON OUR SITES OR WHATEVER.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS GET IN TOUCH WITH, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER ADMIN.
I DON'T KNOW, WHO'S ADMIN ON THE SITE, BUT UM, IF WE ALL ARE SO, I MEAN, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, THAT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST CALL ONE OR TWO OF THE OTHER MEMBERS JUST SO WE CAN GET, UH, SOME KIND OF COLLABORATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON SHOULD BE BLOCKED.
AND THEN IT'S NOT ONE PERSON ARBITRARILY MAKING A DECISION.
BECAUSE I CREATED THE PAGE, I GET NOTIFICATION LIKE RIGHT AWAY IMMEDIATELY, AS SOON AS THEY POST.
AND NORMALLY I KEEP THEM, IF IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION CAUSE, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD MEMBER RESPOND REALLY WELL, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S BEEN EDUCATIONAL AND STUFF, BUT SOME OF THESE ARE YOU'RE RACIST.
WE'RE NOT DOING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE JUST AWFUL COMMENTS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE.
I'M LIKE, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS? THE CITY DOESN'T NEED THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, BUT IT DOESN'T GO AGAINST, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A BAD THING ON OUR THING OF WHAT TO POST.
AND IT SAYS STATES CLEARLY THAT WE ONLY ALLOW POSTING THAT ARE NOT ARGUMENTATIVE DEROGATORY.
YOU RAISED, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN SUPPORT OF WHAT OUR MISSION AND OUR GOAL AND WHAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE.
I JUST, I HAVE BEEN REMOVING THE COMMENT, BUT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONTINUOUSLY COMMENTING.
SO TO THE POINT OF, THEY JUST LIKE ARE NOW TROLLING EVERY COMMENT, SO, OR LITTLE COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING.
SO I ENDED UP JUST BLOCKING THEM FROM THE PAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTINUOUSLY DOING IT AFTER A FEW TIMES I REMOVED THE COMMENT.
BUT THEN, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST DOING IT JUST TO INSTIGATE.
THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST TO START, BUT THEY WERE ALSO IN THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE WITH THE, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION AND I DIDN'T WANT US TO BE DOING SOMETHING WITH THE CITY WHERE YOU COULD OPEN UP TO NORMAL FOOD OR SOMETHING ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
I DON'T WANT, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M WILLING TO BRING IT UP TONIGHT BECAUSE IT HAPPENED THIS WEEK WITH THE DIALOGUE, WHEN WE SHARED THE DIALOGUE FLYER, IT WAS HAPPENING ON THAT EVENT.
AND I DON'T WANNA LIKE OPEN ANYBODY FOR A LAWSUIT OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE VIOLATING SOMEBODY'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS BY BECAUSE WE ARE A CITY COMMISSION.
NOT, I, IT'S NOT MY ROUTE, MY PAGE, IT'S A CITY REPRESENTATIVE PAGE.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO, I'M WANTING TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THE UNIVERSITY WE FACED THE SAME WAY, WHERE WE'RE FACING, UM, ISSUES OF WHAT, WHAT IS, UH, WHAT IS HATE SPEECH? CAUSE WE HAVE A ROCK THAT PEOPLE PAINT ON AND THEY HAVE BEEN
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PAINTING, YOU KNOW, ALL LIVES, MATTER, THINGS LIKE THAT.AND WE WERE FACING THE CRITICISM OF, DO WE ALLOW OR PEOPLE ON CAMPUS? WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT WE CAN'T SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T COME ON CAMPUS BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC CAMPUS.
AND SO WE'RE FACING A LOT OF LIKE FIRST AMENDMENT THINGS, WHAT IS ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED WHEN IT'S A PUBLIC ENTITY ENTITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T DOING ANYTHING THAT OPENS THE, UM, THE CITY FOR A LAWSUIT OR MYSELF PERSONALLY, OR ANYBODY HERE THAT OPENS UP SOME LEGAL ISSUES THAT WAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF WE HAD ANYTHING FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS BEING OUTRIGHT.
IF IT'S HATE SPEECH AND CONSIDERED HATE SPEECH, IT'S ALLOWED TO BE BLOCKED AND A RACE DID NOT ALLOW, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S ALSO OPEN TO INTERPRETATION TOO.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I NOT DOING ANYTHING.
THAT WAS JUST MY THING BECAUSE IT JUST HAPPENED THIS WEEK WHEN I REALIZED THAT.
THANK YOU KATIE FOR FOLLOWING UP.
UM, AND THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN BAKER FOR COMING AND SUPPORTING US TONIGHT AS WELL.