Apr 26, 2021 City Council Meeting

IS THAT NUMBER SEVEN SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

NOT SEEING ANY THOSE MINUTES FROM APRIL 12TH ARE APPROVED NEXT UP.

[ Professional Municipal Clerks Week Mayoral Proclamation Presentation To Anthony Rodgers, Clerk Of Council, And Karen Powell, Deputy Clerk Of Council - Mayor Jeff Gore]

MR. ROGERS ITEM SEVEN, EIGHT PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK MARITAL PROCLAMATION PRESENTATION TO ANTHONY ROGERS, CORPORATE COUNCIL AND KAREN POWELL, DEPUTY CLERK OF COUNCIL BY MAYOR JEFF GORE.

TONY.

I'M NOT SURE IF ALL OF YOU KNOW WHAT TONY AND THE SPELL DOES FOR MYSELF AND THIS COUNCIL, BUT IT'S A LOT.

THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY WAY I CAN EXPLAIN IT IS THAT IT'S A LOT.

THAT'S PRETTY INCREDIBLE.

SO WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED AS THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, IT WAS A LITTLE INTIMIDATING, RIGHT? WHAT ROLE SURE.

WHAT I WAS DOING.

UM, SO I HAD TO LEAN A LOT ON MR. ROGERS FOR A LOT OF GUIDANCE AND, UH, AND MEETINGS AND PROCEDURE AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

AND, UH, HE IS JUST, HE HAS BEEN A ROCK FOR ME PERSONALLY, THROUGH THIS THREE AND A HALF YEAR JOURNEY.

SO FAR AS BEING THE MAYOR.

SO HE IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL.

HE ANSWERS QUESTIONS.

ANYTIME ANYTHING COMES UP, ANY ISSUES REGARDING OUR MEETINGS, HE PUTS TOGETHER IN MINUTES, THE AGENDAS, I MEAN, WE WORK CLOSELY ON PREPARING THE AGENDA FOR EACH MEETING.

IT'S JUST, THERE'S SO MUCH THAT GOES INTO, UM, WHAT HAPPENS HERE AT THE MEETING THAT TONY AND KAREN RUN BEHIND THE ASSISTANCE.

SO, UH, THIS IS THE SYDNEY HUBER HEIGHTS, MAYORAL PROCLAMATION FOR PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEED.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU HAD ONE JUST RECENTLY AWARDED IT WAS LAST YEAR AND WE, WHEN YOU GET TO 20, 20, UM, THE MUNICIPAL CLERK OF THE YEAR.

SO, UM, THAT WAS A PRETTY PRESTIGIOUS AWARD THAT ALL THE MUNICIPAL CLERKS HAD GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED TO, UH, TO AWARD, UH, TELL YOU HOW TO WORK.

SO WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL THAT TONY WAS PART OF THE CT RIGHTS AND ALL WOULD BE DONE SPORTS.

SO, WHEREAS THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK, THE TIMELINE PART OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXISTS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND THE OFFICE OF THE MUNICIPAL CLERK IS THE OLDEST AMOUNT OF PUBLIC SERVANTS.

AND WHEREAS THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK PROVIDES A PROFESSIONAL LINK BETWEEN THE CITIZENS, LOCAL GOVERNING BODIES AND AGENCIES AND GOVERNMENT AT OTHER LEVELS.

AND WHEREAS PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL CLERKS HAVE PLEDGED TO BE EVER MINDFUL OF THEIR NEUTRALITY AND IMPARTIALITY RENDERING, EQUAL SERVICE TO ALL.

AND THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK SERVES AS THE INFORMATION CENTER ON FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY AND RAZ PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS CONTINUALLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY THROUGH PARTICIPATION IN EDUCATION PROGRAMS, SEMINARS, WORKSHOPS, AND THE ANNUAL MEETINGS OF STATE PROVINCE COUNTY AND INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.

AND WE'RE, AS IT IS IMPORTANT IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO RECOGNIZE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE OFFICE OF THE BURKA COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF VITALS.

NOW, THEREFORE I JEFF OR AMERICA CITY RIGHTS OHIO DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE WEEK OF MAY 2ND THROUGH THE EIGHTH, 2021 AS PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS FROM THE SEA OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND FURTHER EXTENDED, THE CITY'S APPRECIATION TO BURKE COUNCIL AND THE RODGERS AND THE DEPUTY CLERK AND COUNCIL CARE PAL.

AND TO ALL MUNICIPAL CLERKS FROM THE VITAL SERVICES THEY PERFORMED AND THEIR EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITIES THEY REPRESENT AND WITNESS WHERE OUT APPEAR AND TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE A SEAL AND THE CITY OF HUBER ICE TO BE FIXED THIS 26TH DAY OF APRIL IN THE YEAR 2021, NONE OF US COULD DO THIS WITHOUT YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SHE HAD ANOTHER 20 MINUTES, SO I'M SORRY.

SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TO HEAR SOME OF COMMENTS, BUT, UH, AS THE SAID, UH, IT'S NOT THE MOST GLAMOROUS WORK, BUT IT'S VITAL WORK THAT GOES ON OFTEN BEHIND THE SCENES, UH, PERFORMING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FILLING IN ALL THE GAPS WHERE MAYBE SOMEONE, SO THIS IS A GREAT COMMUNITY, GREAT COUNCIL TO WORK FOR GLAD TO BE HERE, PART OF THE CITY OF BRYAN.

AND WE'RE VERY, WE'RE VERY GLAD AND VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE.

IS ITEM 17, MR. ROGERS ITEM SEVEN B'S WHO HAS WATER 2020 ANNUAL REPORT PRESENTATION BY MS. PAM WHITEHEAD OPERATIONS MANAGER.

NEXT? OUR AGENDA

[ Suez Water 2020 Annual Report Presentation - Ms. Pam Whited, Operations Manager, Suez Water]

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE DOES, HE READS ALL THE INFORMATION ON THE AGENDA, WHICH SAVES ME.

YOU HEARING.

THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK,

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UM, TO TALK ABOUT THE 2020 YEAR, WHICH WAS AN UNUSUAL YEAR, BUT WE ALL MADE IT LIVE THROUGH IT, AND THAT IS WONDERFUL.

UM, I HEARD A COMMENT FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT SUCH A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT.

BOY, I SURE HOPE THAT PAM DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST EXTORT IN THIS EPISODE.

JUST POINT OUT THE HIGHLIGHTS.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU IS SOME OF THE TEAM HERE THAT, UH, OUR CORPORATE AND LOCAL MANAGEMENT GROUP THAT YOU SEE, WE HAVE, UM, JOHN , WHO'S OUR VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL MANAGER.

JOHN IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

AND THEN, UH, JUST TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY HELLO.

UM, AND THEN MIKE BOWMAN IS OUR AREA MANAGER.

HE IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE IS VISITING VIA ZOOM.

SO HE WILL BE HE'S THERE TO, UM, WE HAD, UH, JEFF SMITH WHO WAS OUR OPERATIONS MANAGER, JEFF AND METER, AND A MANAGERS OR OCCASION FROM OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE WORK.

UM, THE FOLKS OVER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THAT, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU PROBABLY NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT SUEZ HAS A LOT OF FOLKS THAT CAN HELP OUT WHEN NEEDED.

WE'VE GOT FOLKS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL, WE'VE GOT FOLKS FROM, UH, WATER QUALITY, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE SYSTEMS, PURCHASING LOTS OF DIFFERENT AREAS THERE.

AND I WON'T READ THROUGH THEM ALL.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THEM ALL THAT IS AWFULLY TINY, BUT THERE'S QUITE A FEW FOLKS THERE THAT, THAT DO ASSIST US.

AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE THAT THOSE FOLKS ARE WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND, WHETHER YOU SEE THEM OR YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ALL LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE ROUGHER THAN MOST, BUT WE DID MANAGE TO DO QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT WE WERE PRETTY PROUD OF.

UM, WE, UH, I WON'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST, BUT I WILL SHARE SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT YOU SEE FROM, UH, THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE WHERE WE PARTICIPATED IN THIS LAST YEAR, THE CITY IS KIND ENOUGH TO ALWAYS EXEMPT US AND LET US HAVE OUR WATER GUNS OUT AND READY TO SHOOT PEOPLE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, UH, THE LIGHTS IN THE HEIGHTS FOR 2020 AND THE DECORATIONS THAT ARE VERY TALENTED SERVICE PERSON.

UM, JEREMY COOKSEY CREATED THIS LAST YEAR ON OUR WINDOWS.

UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL POINT OUT THERE, THERE'S A NEW ONE.

IT SAYS ST.

VINCENT DEPAUL, IF ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW ST VINCENT DEPAUL WILL HELP FOLKS WITH THEIR WATER BILL.

IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM, THERE'S A LOT OF LOCAL COMMUNITY CHURCHES THAT WILL HELP AS WELL.

BUT ST.

VINCENT DEPAUL IS THE ONE OF THE LARGER GROUPS THAT WILL HELP.

AND SO THIS LAST YEAR, SINCE COVID WAS RAPID, WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO PARTICIPATE OR ACTUALLY DONATE TO A GROUP THAT HELPS THE COMMUNITY.

AND THESE FOLKS DO HELP THE FOLKS HERE RIGHT HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.

SO WE MADE A DONATION TO ST.

VINCENT DEPAUL, AND I ENJOYED IT SO MUCH.

I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE THAT ON FOR THE, FOR THE FUTURE.

LOOK AT IT, JUST A FEW PERFORMANCE HIGHLIGHTS.

AND AGAIN, I WON'T GO OVER EVERYTHING, BUT JUST A FEW IN WATER TREATMENT.

OF COURSE THE MOST EXCITING THING WAS WET.

A LOT OR SOFT WATER.

UM, THE TWO THINGS AT THE BOTTOM WOULD BE THE ONES THAT I POINTED OUT TO YOU.

WE GOT THE SOFT WATER IN PLACE STARTING IN MAY.

UM, AND WE ALSO ADDED A WELL AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE THERE FOR THERE TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE W WELL, WE STILL HAVE FIVE WELLS BECAUSE WE HAD ONE THAT JUST REALLY WASN'T PRODUCING THIS ONE, THEY'LL REPLACE IT.

AND THEN SOME, SO IT'S AWESOME.

WE LOVE IT.

WE WANT TWO MORE ANYTIME YOU'RE READY TO SPEND THE MONEY.

UM, OKAY.

SO THEN WE HAD OUR EPA TRI-ANNUAL SURVEY AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FINDINGS THAT WE FOUND HAD THERE.

UM, WE PERFORMED OUR, THE NORMAL TESTING THAT WE DO, AND WE PROVE WE PRODUCED 1.4 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER, AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS ABOUT 1.35.

I THINK, UM, THAT LOT OF THINGS CHANGED THAT, UH, SOME OF IT WILL CHANGE EVEN MORE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WASTE A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE WATER BECAUSE OF THE SOFTENING, BUT, UM, UH, WEATHER CAN AFFECT IT.

IF IT'S DRY YEAR WET YEAR, I'VE SEEN ALL DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, UNDER MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS NEED MORE ROAD.

THIS IS KIND OF SAD IN 1956, THAT FACILITY WAS BUILT ON WAS A YEAR OLD, BUT THAT'S HOW OLD I AM.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT THAT FACILITY, UM, IS, WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN OUT OF SERVICES LAST YEAR, UH, WAS ONE OF THE FINDINGS THAT EPA HAD NOT SO MUCH FROM THE SURVEY, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, THEY HAD A FINDING THAT THEY DECIDED THAT BECAUSE THAT TREATMENT PLANT WASN'T ABLE TO TREAT SERVICE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WASN'T LARGE ENOUGH, BUT ALSO IT HAD SOME REPAIRS TO BE MADE EPA, WANTED THE REPAIRS MADE OR TAKE IT OUT OF SERVICE, YOUR CHOICE.

AND SO WE TOOK IT OUT OF SERVICE BECAUSE SO CLOSE TO HAVING THE WATER, THE SOFT WATER, AND REALLY HAVING IT IN MAY.

THERE WASN'T ANY SENSE IN PUTTING THE DOLLARS IN IT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO PUT INTO IT TO BRING IT BACK UP TO FULL GRADE.

SO IN THAT LIGHT, WE DISCONNECTED THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE AND WE CUT THE MAIN LINE.

AND THEN THIS NEXT YEAR, OR THIS YEAR, I GUESS IT IS A REST, HAS IT IN THE BUDGET TO REMOVE, UH, AND JUST DEMOLISH THE REST OF THAT FACILITY.

BUT IT WAS KIND OF SAD BECAUSE FOR A LONG TIME, EXCUSE ME, THAT WAS OUR, UM, OUR COURSE AND THE, IN THE VICINITY.

SO THAT WAS, UH, AN AND WHEN I WILL CONFESS THAT I WAS AROUND WHEN RIP RAP CAME ONLINE AND WE HAD TO ALMOST THREATEN OUR PLANT OPERATORS TO USE THE, WITH TECHNOLOGY RATHER THAN THE ONE THAT YOU WORKED BY HAND, BECAUSE THEY LIKED THE ONE THAT YOU WORKED BY HAND, UM, AND RIP RAP.

YOU CAN SEE THE THINGS THAT WE DID THERE.

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WE HAVE TO PERFORM SOMETHING CALLED THE CLEAN IN PLACE, WHICH IS A RATHER COSTLY THING THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE HOW MANY TIMES IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE DONE, BUT WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR EXPERTS WORKING ON IT, SO THAT WE'RE PRETTY, WE'RE PROVIDING THEM TONS OF DATA SO THAT THEY CAN COME UP WITH THE BEST CLEANING SOLUTIONS AND THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT.

ALSO THE CARTRIDGE PRE-FILTERS THOSE WE ARE AVERAGING IS PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE ABOUT FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

SO THOSE ARE TWO NEW MAINTENANCE ITEMS OR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

THE PURPOSE OF THEM ARE TO PROLONG THE LIFE OF THOSE SKIDS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT, UH, INEXPENSIVE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, UNDER WATER DISTRIBUTION HIGHLIGHTS, WE'LL COVER SOME OF THEM.

IF I CAN GET A THING TO GO, AH, HERE WE, THE CITY ACTUALLY GOT THE STONE STANDPIPE INSPECTED AND PAINTED LAST YEAR.

SO THAT WAS A GREAT THING.

WE CONTINUE TO GROW IN THE COMMUNITY 187 NEW SERVICES, WHICH WAS EXCITING.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WE DID NOT SO EXCITING IF YOU LOOK OVER TO THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE OF A WATER MAIN BREAK.

THAT'S ACTUALLY FROM THIS YEAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TECHNICAL NAME OF THOSE IS, BUT I CALL THEM GUSHERS.

AND I'VE ONLY SEEN TWO SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN THE 40 PLUS YEARS.

SO I HAD TO INCLUDE THAT PICTURE.

I THINK IT'S COOL, WHETHER IT'S, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BAD THING, UH, BUT AT ANY RATE, UH, THAT REPRESENTS ONE OF 120, I'M SORRY, 157 WATER MAIN BREAKS THAT OCCURRED LAST YEAR AND 129 OF THOSE OCCURRED IN THE LAST HALF OF THE YEAR.

UH, WE HAD 119 OF THOSE BREAKS THAT REQUIRED WATER PRESSURE TO BE TAKEN BELOW 20 PSI, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HANDED OUT, UM, BOIL WATER, NOTICE THIS TO EVERYONE WITHIN THOSE.

EACH OF THOSE BREAKS, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN 10, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN 50, UH, BUT THERE WERE EACH PERSON RECEIVED A NOTICE, LETTING THEM KNOW, AND THEN ALSO RECEIVED A NOTICE, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE WERE READY TO LIFT THAT BOIL ALERT.

WE DO PUT A NOTE, UH, ONE THING I'LL SAY IS WE DO PUT IT LIKE 96 HOURS ON THOSE, BUT GENERALLY THEY DON'T TAKE THAT LONG.

WE JUST DO THAT IN CASE.

WELL, WHAT IF SOMETHING CAME BACK? NOT QUITE RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND REISSUE ANOTHER BOIL ALERT, AND WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND GET IT DONE.

BUT TYPICALLY, UNLESS IT'S A WEEKEND, IT'S NEXT DAY, MAYBE TWO DAYS BEFORE THE ALERT IS ACTUALLY LIFTED.

AND THOSE ARE PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES ONLY, UM, THE VALVE EXERCISE PROGRAM.

THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT, UH, ONE OF THE FINDINGS FROM APA DURING THE, THE, UH, INVESTIGATION, THE INVESTIGATION IN THE SURVEY, AND BY THE WAY, I CALL THAT SANITARY SURVEY, BUT IT DIDN'T MENTION THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SANITARY.

IT HAS TO DO WITH WATER.

DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CALL IT SANITARY SURVEY TO ME THAT I THINK OF SEWER, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS, IT'S WATER.

SO IN THOSE FINDINGS, UM, THEY HAVE A NEW OHIO EPA MANDATE THAT REQUIRES YOU TO, WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY START EXERCISING ALL OF THE VALVES IN THE SYSTEM.

SO WE SUBMITTED A PROGRAM TO THEM, AND IT WAS ACCEPTED WITH A FEW SUGGESTIONS, NOT REQUIREMENTS, BUT SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE MULLING THAT OVER IT AT THIS POINT WITH THE CITY STAFF.

UM, AND THAT PROGRAM WILL BEGIN PROBABLY THIS, UH, WITHIN THIS YEAR, FOR SURE.

UM, WE'VE MADE THAT COMMITMENT.

WE HAVE A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TECHNOLOGY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP US GET THAT DONE.

UM, AND THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET PRICING ON.

SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST PRICE FOR THE CITY ON THAT MOVING ON UNDER WASTEWATER COLLECTION.

HI, I'M NOT GONNA SAY A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THIS PAGE, EXCEPT THIS IS WHERE WE SUFFERED THE MOST.

UM, THE COMPANY MADE A DECISION BASED ON THE PANDEMIC THAT, UH, SEWER WAS PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO BE IN A LOT.

SO UNLESS IT WAS NECESSARY, WE REALLY DIDN'T DO IT AS A RESULT.

WE DIDN'T GET THE SEWER LINE CLAIM THAT WE'D LIKE TO, AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON GETTING THAT CUT UP OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND THEN HOPE TO BE EVEN AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, BECAUSE NOW WE'LL BE USING A NEW PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN THE SEWER SYSTEM DID GET DONE AS FAR AS NEEDS TO MAKE SURE NOBODY HAD ANYTHING NASTY IN THEIR HOME OR THEY, OR IF THEY DID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF IMMEDIATELY, THAT KIND OF THING.

MOVING ON TO CUSTOMER SERVICE.

UM, HERE WE HAVE A FEW LESS CUSTOMERS THAT CAME IN OVER THE COUNTER, UM, AND A FEW LESS THE TELEPHONE DOES THAN THEY DID THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

I THINK WE HAD LIKE 8,700 LAST YEAR, UH, THAT WAS CUSTOMER CARE TOTAL, BUT, UM, PROBABLY THOSE WERE MADE UP FOR IN EMAILS.

AND THE REASON THAT THEY WERE LOWER IS BECAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS.

DOESN'T MEAN WE WEREN'T THERE.

WE WERE THERE EVERY DAY.

WE WORK IN STAGGERED SHIFTS.

SO I'M WORKING FROM HOME.

EVERYBODY WORKED EVERY DAY, SOME FROM HOME, SOME FROM THE OFFICE, BUT WE WERE ALL THERE.

UM, SO THAT, THAT DIDN'T CHANGE, BUT FOLKS COULDN'T GET IN THE OFFICE.

SO THEY HAD TO GET A HOLD OF US SOME OTHER WAY.

IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME THAT THE WALK-INS ARE MORE THAN THE, UH, TELEPHONE CALLS, BUT THEY ARE.

AND, UH, I THINK I WOULD PROBABLY MOST ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE FACT THAT WE REQUIRE PROOF WHEN THEY MOVE IN AND, AND THAT'S YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE AND THAT, UH, ELISE OR, UH, UH, CLOSING PAPERS WITH YOU'VE BOUGHT A HOME.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO SHARE THAT OVER A FAX OR AN EMAIL, SO THEY'LL BRING IT IN.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHY WE GET MORE FOOT TRAFFIC, WHICH IS FINE.

WE LOVE SEEING THE FOLKS,

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UM, ON THE, I'M JUST GOING TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO STILL HAVE AN ONLINE CUSTOMER PORTAL SERVICE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER ALL THE DETAILS THAT ARE THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THEM FOR YOURSELF.

IT'S JUST A GREAT ENHANCEMENT TO THE SYSTEM, TO WHERE, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK TO US, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU GET ONLINE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOUR BILL IS.

YOU CAN GET ONLINE, PAY YOUR BILL, YOU CAN GET ON YOUR LIFE, DO ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO, OR YOU CAN EVEN TEXT AND PAY NOW.

SO THOSE THINGS ARE ALL THERE.

WE DID COLLECT ABOUT $11 MILLION IN CITY REVENUE LAST YEAR.

AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE AT THE TOP.

AND WE SOLD ABOUT 977 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER.

SO WE'LL TALK 20, 20 TO 2021 BUDGET.

JUST TALK ABOUT IT BRIEFLY.

UM, HERE WE, UH, FORCED, YOU KNOW, THE NEW YEAR STARTED OUT.

WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE COSTS WERE GOING TO BE FOR A SOFTENING PLANT.

SO, UH, I THINK WE BUDGETED ORIGINALLY ABOUT 2.7 MILLION IN REVENUE, AND OBVIOUSLY THE REVENUE ENDED UP BEING A LITTLE OVER THREE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, AGAIN, A LITTLE OVER THREE IN EXPENDITURES AS WELL.

UH, AND WE'D BUDGETED ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION TO 2.4.

I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, IN EXPENDITURES.

SO, UM, A LOT OF THAT WAS ATTRIBUTED TO CHEMICALS.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE GOT SOME EXPERTS THAT I'LL MENTION LATER ON THAT ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTIONS AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH SOME COST SAVINGS.

THE AMENDMENT TO THE SYSTEM, WE DID SET UP A SHARING PROGRAM LIKE WE DO WITH ENERGY IN THAT IF WE CAN SAVE MONIES OVER A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, WE'LL SPLIT THAT WITH THE CITY AND VICE VERSA.

IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL COST, THE CITY AGREES TO SHARE COSTS.

WE AGREED TO EAT.

WE'D AGREE TO EAT A PORTION OF THIS COSTS VERSUS THE CITY HAVING TO DO THAT COMPLETELY ON THEIR OWN HERE, WE'VE GOT THE 20, 21 BUDGET.

AND AGAIN, NOW YOU CAN'T SEE IT, BUT IT SAYS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, THEIR BUDGET PREPARED EARLY 20, 21.

WELL, THIS WOULDN'T BE A PRESENTATION BY PM.

IF YOU OR THE SUEZ IN GENERAL, WITH ME GIVING IT THAT I DIDN'T MAKE A TYPO SOMEWHERE.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY 2020.

UH, SO THAT WAS PREPARED AGAIN BEFORE WE REALLY HAD HAD THE TREATMENT PLAN OR THE UPGRADED.

UH, SO AGAIN, THOSE COSTS, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THEY'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE LOW, UM, ESPECIALLY BASED ON WHERE WE ENDED THIS LAST YEAR WITH ONLY SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS IN SERVICE, BUT WE ALSO HOPE TO AGAIN, FIND SOME COST SAVINGS IN CHEMICALS BECAUSE, AND HERE'S WHERE I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE ENLISTED A BUNCH OF OUR WATER EXPERTS FROM SUEZ AND ENGINEERS TO HELP US OPTIMIZE THE NEW SOFTENING SYSTEM AS IT TRANSITIONS FROM WARRANTY.

AND, UH, WE HOPE TO FIND SOME GOOD SAVINGS FOR FOLKS THERE THAT MAYBE WE CAN BRING THAT DOWN A LITTLE CLOSER TO WHAT IT, WHAT IT SHOULD BE OR WHAT WE HOPE ITS WOOD CAN BE.

ALL RIGHT, CADET FOR 2021.

MY PAGE IS TURNED HERE 2021 WE'VE OF COURSE BE IMPLEMENTING THAT VALVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU.

IF YOU LOOK DOWN IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER, YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE OF SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND IT'S REALLY KIND OF A HANDY-DANDY LITTLE TOOL THAT I COULDN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU EXACTLY EVERYTHING THAT IT DOES, BUT IT DOES A LOT.

AND, UH, IT, WE DIDN'T, WE'RE NOT OUT THERE CRANKING.

YOU CAN MANUALLY CRANK IT, BUT THIS THING IS SMART ENOUGH THAT IT'LL TRY TO TURN TO THE POINT THAT IT'S ABOUT TO TELL YOU IT'S GOING TO BREAK AND YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICE.

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE LIST OF ONES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, OR YOU CAN BREAK IT AND THEN HAVE TO FIX IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

BUT HOPEFULLY WE JUST PUT IT ON LIST AND IT DOESN'T BREAK.

AND THERE WILL BE A FEW THAT WILL BREAK REGARDLESS, BUT IT IS SMART ENOUGH TO TRY ITS BEST TO, TO HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY TO STOP TWEAKING WHEN IT NEEDS TO.

UM, AND THAT, THAT, AGAIN, THAT EQUIPMENT WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR PRICING ON ALL THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT, GET THE BEST PRICE FOR THE CITY.

THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU SEE AT THE TOP IS THE SEWER INSPECTION EQUIPMENT.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT ON HAND ALREADY, BUT YOU KNOW, AS A PART OF OUR AMENDMENT, WE, WE HAD THE SAME NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES IN 1995 THAT WE DO THAT WE DID TODAY AND SAID HE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND AGREED THAT WE COULD BRING NEW FOLKS ON BOARD.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

NOW, HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH THAT AT THE MOMENT THOUGH.

SO IF YOU ALL KNOW ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN ANYTHING IN THE WATER INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO LEARN ABOUT, UH, UM, SEWER INSPECTIONS, IF THEY'RE, THEY GOTTA BE NOT.

SO CLEANISH BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING WITH HUMAN WASTE, UM, OR VALVE EXERCISING OR REPAIRING WATER MAINS, UM, DOES REQUIRE ON HOME RESPONSIBILITIES.

BUT IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, IT'S INDEED.COM.

YOU CAN GO TO SEARCH BY THE NAME OF SUEZ, FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.

WE HAVE A PERSON FROM HR THAT GOES THROUGH THOSE WEEKLY AND ANYBODY THAT'S QUALIFIED, THEY'LL LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL WE, WE WILL INTERVIEW THEM.

SO THAT IS AVAILABLE.

AND WE HAVE, UH, I THINK WE HAVE TWO OFFERS OUT THERE AND MAYBE TWO POSITIONS LEFT TO FILL.

SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT.

AND THEN, UH, HYDRO FLUSHING, THAT ONE WE'RE TRYING REALLY HARD TO GET THAT STARTED.

WE'D HOPED TO HAVE IT DONE BY SPRING.

WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR STAFFING UP AND WE'VE GOT TO GET TRAINING DONE.

WE'VE GOT TO GET A FEW THINGS DONE.

SO THAT

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HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'LL GET IT ON THE SCHEDULE AS SOON AS WE CAN.

WE KNOW THAT IT'S REQUIRED THIS YEAR.

UM, I WON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE CORROSION CONTROL PROGRAM.

IT'S BASICALLY JUST AN ENHANCED LEAD AND COPPER SAMPLING.

WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE MORE SAMPLES JUST AS WE DID LAST YEAR.

UM, AND THEN THE, UM, OTHER THINGS HERE WERE PRETTY ROUTINE.

UH, WE DID PAINT THE PRESSURE FILTERS AS WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR LAST YEAR, BUT THEY'RE DONE THIS YEAR.

AND THEN WE ASSISTED WITH THE DEMOLITION AS WE TALKED ABOUT FOR NEED MORE.

AND THEN WE WILL LOOK CLEAN AND INSPECT IT.

I THINK WE'VE GOT ONE OR TWO WELLS PLANNED FOR THIS YEAR.

ALMOST DONE GUYS, 2021 ANNUAL RATE SURVEY.

HERE YOU GO.

I THINK IT CAN BE REALLY PROUD OF THIS BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT YOU'VE ADDED WATER SOFTENING, WHICH IS, WAS THAT A SIGNIFICANT COST.

UM, AND YOU'VE, UH, YOU'VE ENHANCED THE SYSTEM YOU'VE ALLOWED FOR THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING.

THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO KEEP EVERYTHING UP.

AND YOU STILL ARE AT NUMBER FOUR FROM THE BOTTOM.

I WOULD HATE TO LIVE IN IOWA OR YELLOW SPRINGS.

I COULDN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.

THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR PROPERTY TAXES.

I CAN'T AFFORD THEIR WATER BILL.

SO LAST THING, ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I WANT TO SHARE, UM, OUR TEAM WAS SO DEDICATED LAST YEAR.

I JUST CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU.

AND SOME THERE'S A DEDICATED THEY'RE HERE AF AFTER HOURS AND A LOT OF THEM.

SO AS I SAY THEIR NAMES, I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO STAND UP AND BE RECOGNIZED.

THEY'RE NOT ALL HERE, BUT THOSE WHO ARE ARE FROM OUR ADMIN AND OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM, WE HAVE ABANDONED THEIR, SO WE HAVE JASON BEDROOM.

HE'S HERE.

WE HAVE, UM, NICOLE FLOOD THERE, WE HAVE TANYA ZIMMERMAN AND THOSE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOD SENDS IN BILLING.

I DON'T, I THINK I KIND OF SKIPPED OVER THE FACT THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE DECIDE TO START A NEW, UH, PROGRAM BILLING PROGRAM.

DON'T EVER DO THAT DURING A PANDEMIC.

I CAN'T GO THERE.

THEY CAN'T COME TO YOU.

YOU'RE ALL LEARNING ONLINE.

IT'S, IT'S CRAZY.

UH, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THEY WOULD SIT THERE IN THE OFFICE WITH YOU.

THEY WOULD SHOW YOU, YOU WOULD SHOW THEM WHAT YOU DO, AND THEY WOULD TRY TO TWEAK THEIR PROGRAM JUST A LITTLE BIT TO DO THAT.

WELL, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY.

SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH KINKS, NOTHING THAT REALLY AFFECTS THE CUSTOMERS, BUT A LOT THAT MAKES A LOT OF EXTRA WORK FOR US.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

UM, SO THOSE FOLKS ARE GREAT.

OUR SERVICE TECH ISN'T HERE, JEREMY COOKSEY, UM, HE STILL DID EVERYTHING HE NEEDED TO DO TO GET THINGS DONE.

AND ESPECIALLY OUR DISTRIBUTION AND COLLECTIONS TEAM, WHICH CONSISTED OF JEFFREY SMITH WAS THERE.

WHO'S OUR, WHO WAS OUR OPERATIONS MANAGER, UH, BRIAN WEST, WHO'S SCOTT.

UH, YOU'VE KNOWN HIM AS SCOTT SCOOTER.

UH, AND THEN, UH, CAMERON SMITH IS NOT HERE.

DAN WILL.

SHE'S ONE OF OUR NEWER FOLKS.

HE'S HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.

AND THEN RON HENRY LAST YEAR, RON JUST RECENTLY LEFT US FOR A DIFFERENT POSITION.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE POSITIONS IN THE OPEN, UM, FROM OUR PLANT TEAM, WE HAVE JEFF VAN METER.

THERE IS, AND HE IS OUR A CLASS THREE PLAN OPERATOR.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT PAT VALENTINE WHO ISN'T HERE AND DAKOTA, BOTH IN DAKOTA USED TO BE PART-TIME HE'S NOW FULL-TIME WATER PLANT OPERATOR OR ASSISTANT HE'S WORKING ON HIS LICENSING.

UM, ANOTHER PERSON THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST, BUT I DO WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS SAM ROBINSON.

SAM IS FROM THE WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD.

HE'S BEEN, UH, OUR PRESIDENT OR OUR CHAIRMAN FOR THE CHAIRMAN FOR HOW LONG AGO? YEAH, ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

NOBODY WANTS THE JOB, BUT NO, HE DOES A GOOD JOB AT IT.

THAT'S, UH, THAT THEY KEEP HIM AROUND AND HE COMES EVERY YEAR TO SUPPORT US.

AND EVERY YEAR I ALMOST FORGET TO INTRODUCE HIM.

SO I WANTED TO BE SURE TO DO THAT.

NOW, THE NEXT PAGE, I WOULD TYPICALLY SHOW YOU IN CLOSE WITH A PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE GROUP, BUT, UM, I'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS UNEMOTIONALLY, BUT WE LOST LAST YEAR, JEFF SMITH, UH, HE WORKED FOR US FOR 40 YEARS.

UH, HE WAS DEDICATED TO THE CITY.

LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE HE LIVED IN MIDWAY, DID A LOT OF STUFF FOR MEDWAY, BUT HE, HE WAS DEDICATED TO HEBREW HEIGHTS.

HE WAS HERE FOR EVERYTHING.

UH, IN THE HONOR OF JEFF, WE ARE ACTUALLY CREATING A, UH, SCHOLARSHIP, EDUCATIONAL SCHOLARSHIP, THE DETAILS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON.

I HAVE TO GET WITH JOHN.

JOHN HAS TO SAY, OKAY, WHICH HE WILL, AND THEN HE'S GOT TO GET INTO PROOF FROM THE OTHER.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE LOST HIM.

WE, WE TRIED TO PICK APPROPRIATE PICTURES THAT HE WOULD EITHER LIKE, OR BE EMBARRASSED OF.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT TO JEFF A LOT.

UM, AND I THINK OUR VERY FIRST PICTURE OF THE BACKHOE, HE HAD TO BE EARLY TWENTIES, I'M THINKING.

AND THEN THAT WE'VE GOT A PICTURE THERE IN THE OHIO SUBURBAN YEAR.

UH, HE'S ANOTHER ONE OF US THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER.

UM, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT JUST THE, SOME OF THE NEWER ONES WHEN WE WERE, UH, UNITED WATER AND UH, UH, LATER ON SUEZ.

SO THAT'S JEFF AND HE WAS

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SET.

HE LEFT US WAY TOO SOON.

UH, 60 YEARS OLD, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN, I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT MONTH, BUT 59 YEARS OLD WHEN HE PASSED.

AND WE, WE, WE MET WITH THAT.

IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE, I'LL LISTEN.

UM, I MAY HAVE ANSWERS.

I MAY NOT, I MAY PASS THEM OFF JOHN, OR I MAY GET THEM FOR YOU.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SHOWING UP AND PRESENTING.

I'LL TELL US ALL THE THINGS THAT THAT'S, WHO HAS DOES, BUT ON BEHALF OF ALL PEOPLE, UH, AND THE RESIDENTS IN NEIGHBOR HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS REALLY DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB FOR, UM, FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.

I KNOW LAST YEAR WAS A TOUGH YEAR WITH THE WATER MAIN BREAKS.

SOME OF THOSE KIND OF CONTINUE INTO THIS YEAR AND, YOU KNOW, WE SAW THEM ALL OVER FACEBOOK, YOU KNOW, REALLY LETTING US KNOW EVERY TIME, HEY, THERE'S A MAIN BREAK, BUT WE KNOW YOU GUYS WERE ON IT.

AND IT MEANS A LOT TO US.

WE'RE ABLE TO TRUST AND KNOW THAT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT OCCURS, WE HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET IT FIXED AND GET IT FIXED IN A HURRY.

SO PEOPLE'S WATER IS IMPORTANT AND, UH, ARENAS, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR WATER TURNED BACK ON AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ON ALL THOSE INCIDENTS.

I KNOW WE ARE, UH, TAKING MEASURES AND DOING LOTS OF THINGS TO HELP CORRECT THOSE THINGS AND REHAB THOSE THINGS.

BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS OLD AND TEMPERATURE CHANGES AND WEATHER CHANGES JUST REALLY PUTS A STRESS ON SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL THE CITIZENS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO, CUSTOMER SERVICE, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PLANT OPERATORS, TO BILLING ADMINISTRATION, IT'S JUST A BIG JOB TO SERVE 40,000 PEOPLE WATER.

AND, UH, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

SO WE CAN'T ALWAYS MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT WE DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN.

AND WHAT ELSE, MS. ROBIN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO JUMP ON THAT TRAIN AND SAY THAT, UH, I ALSO AGREE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU GUYS DO, AND YOU ALWAYS DO IT WITH A SMILE AND YOU'RE ALWAYS VERY, VERY FRIENDLY AND EASY TO WORK WITH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, MS. BIRCH.

UH, YES, PAM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND, UM, AND OUR SYMPATHY GOES OUT TO JEFF'S FAMILY.

HE WAS A HUGE PART OF OUR, OF OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND, AND WE SHARE YOUR LOSS.

WE REALLY DO.

UM, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF THIS SCHOLARSHIP IS GOING TO BE OPEN TO LIKE, UM, UH, HUBER AND BETHEL SCHOOLS OR IS IT GOING TO BE NATIONWIDE OR WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW AND WILL YOU THE INFORMATION OUT IN A NEWSLETTER SO PEOPLE CAN DONATE? YEAH, WE WILL.

ONCE WE'VE WORKED OUT WHAT THE, THE, UH, PLANS ARE, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT FAIRLY LOCAL.

SOME FOR ACTUALLY SUEZ EMPLOYEES POSSIBLY, AND THEN POSSIBLY SOME TO THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOLS JUST, I JUST DON'T REALLY WANT TO SHARE UNTIL I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO HIT LOCALLY.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU AND ALL OF THE SUEZ AS EMPLOYEES, UH, FOR ANOTHER STELLAR YEAR OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AND FOR MEETING THE MANY, MANY CHALLENGES AT 20 PRESENTED 2020 PRESENTED IN A, IN AN EFFICIENT AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER, YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST.

FOR ME OR A TEXT MESSAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I JUST REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR US REALLY DOES MEAN A LOT.

THANK YOU, MR. BURCH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YES.

MS. BAKER, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING ELSE THEY ALL SAID DID THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER MET YOU IN PERSON.

I'VE NOT MET YOU, BUT THANK YOU.

YES, MR. WEBB, THANKS FOR I'LL JUMP IN REAL QUICK.

ONE PERSON YOU DIDN'T PUT UP ON THOSE SLOTS IS THAT PERSON NAMED PAM WIDED, WHO IS JUST AN AWESOME REPRESENTATIVE FOR SUEZ AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY, PAM, EVERY YEAR YOU KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK, YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN.

WE'RE VERY PRESSURED.

YOU SEE MY MUG ALL THE TIME THOUGH.

SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, YOU AND YOUR CREW, AWESOME JOB.

UH, YOU KNOW, BIG KUDOS TO CUSTOMER SERVICE AND DISTRIBUTION THIS LAST YEAR, BECAUSE DISTRIBUTION IS 159 BREAKS.

AND WE HAD PEOPLE, WE HAD PEOPLE WALKING OFF THE JOB BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T TAKE THE OVERTIME BECAUSE IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T WANT THAT OVERTIME ANYMORE.

AND IT WAS THE FOLKS THAT STAYED WERE SO TRIED AND TRUE.

AND I'M JUST, SO I COULDN'T BE PROUDER TO WORK WITH THIS GROUP.

I REALLY DIDN'T PAUSE.

AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, LIKE I KNOW IOT IS, SHE'S SEEN, FOLLOWS THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND SEES PEOPLE, MAN, JUST KIND OF REALLY GIVEN COUNSEL THE BUSINESS OVER, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN BREAKS AND THINGS.

AND SHE REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, HEY, JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THIS, WE'RE GOING TO GET FIXED.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT.

SO JUST THINGS LIKE THAT AND COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU, UH, TO ME OVER THE OVER LAST YEAR AND, AND BEFORE, AND ALWAYS BEING WILLING TO TAKE A PHONE CALL

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SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MR. ROGERS, DIXON'S ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS CITIZENS COMMENTS.

I HAVE NON-MARRIED.

AND NEXT UP IS THAT NUMBER NINE THAT ARE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS. I DO HAVE SEVERAL TO SPEAK ON ITEM 11, EIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW, 11 EIGHT.

SO BEFORE WE GET TIED, I'M 11, UH, IS THE

[10. City Manager Report]

CITY MANAGER REPORT.

IT'S ITEM NUMBER 10, MR. WAKOWSKI.

CONTRACT, UM, THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS CONSIDERED, UM, REVENUE, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.

AND GOOD EVENING.

I HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS TONIGHT.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, UM, AS OF TODAY, UH, WE HAVE OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED FOR THE SHUTTER VENUE OPERATORS WHEN IT ORIGINALLY CAME OUT.

SO MANY PEOPLE TRY TO GET ON TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR IT.

THE WHOLE SYSTEM CRASHED.

THEY FINALLY GOT EVERYTHING BACK TOGETHER AND THEY INITIALLY SET IT UP FOR SATURDAY.

OPENING ENOUGH PEOPLE COMPLAINS THAT SAY MAY NOT BE FAIR THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE PLANS ON SATURDAYS.

THEY MOVED IT BACK AGAIN TILL TODAY.

SO, UM, ONE KUDOS, UH, JIM BELL HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT IN AS SOON AS IT OPENED BACK UP.

UM, JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE TIER THREE, UH, BECAUSE OF BEING A MUNICIPAL, UH, OWNER OF, UH, ARPAD KNEW THAT, UH, SO, UM, UH, WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS.

UH, THE TIER ONES ARE THE ONES THAT, UM, ARE SOLELY FOCUSED ON TICKET SALES.

THERE'S THE ONLY THING THAT FUNDS THEIR BUSINESS.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOWN IN TIER THREE BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR POTENTIAL FUNDING, BUT, UH, WE DID APPLY FOR A 3.3 MILLION AND W GLADLY, UH, TAKE AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO COVER ANY OF, UH, UM, THOSE, UH, UM, SERVICES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED LAST YEAR.

UM, ALSO IN KIND OF THAT GRANT FUNDING, THE AARP FUNDING, UH, JUST, UH, TO KEEP YOU UP TO DATE ON THAT THAT'S, THERE IS, THERE ARE TWO MORE WEBINARS THIS YEAR OR THIS WEEK THAT WE ARE, UH, GOING TO BE A PART OF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, BUT WE STILL DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT FINAL OF WHAT WE COULD USE THE MONEY FOR, UM, OR EXACTLY WHEN WE WILL BE RECEIVING THE MONEY.

WHAT, UH, JIM HAS BEEN HEARING IS THAT, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE $7.5 MILLION WILL BE SPLIT OVER TWO YEARS, SHOULD BE MAYBE LATE JUNE.

AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE THE FIRST OF THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE IS A PART OF THAT, BUT THEIR DEFINITION OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS STILL UP IN THE AIR.

UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE BACK TO DISCUSS, UH, HOW TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS.

UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE DEADLINE TO SPEND THAT MONEY WOULD BE THE END OF 2024.

SO WE'LL HAVE TIME TO PLAN AND, UH, PUT FORWARD, UH, SELMA POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

THEN, UM, NEXT AT THE LAST WORK SESSION, WE DID TALK ABOUT TRASH HAULING.

AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS ABOUT MOVING IT TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION AND ABOUT SOME OF THAT TIMING ISSUE.

UM, SO THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONDAY.

UM, SINCE WE'VE MOVED THE DAY, UH, FOR THE WORK SESSION, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ON THE WORK SESSION, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, DISCUSS, UM, AT THAT, UH, I WILL PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION IN THE PACKET THEN EVEN MORE THAN WHAT YOU SAW BEFORE, UH, BECAUSE, UH, SAT DOWN WITH STAFF AND DISCUSS THINGS A LITTLE FURTHER, PLUS SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP, GOT SOME MORE INFORMATION, AND WE WILL BE, UH, UH, PROVIDING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO STAY WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR AS PART OF THAT.

AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT FURTHER AT THE WORK SESSION.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. MCCALSKY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR SCOTT REGARDING ANY INFORMATION IN HIS UPDATE THIS EVENING? WHAT'S YOUR ROLE? THANK YOU, MARY.

UM, SCOTT, UH, GOOD TO HEAR THAT WE APPLIED FOR THAT, UH, SHUTTERED VENUE GRANT.

UM, MY QUESTION TO YOU AND, UH, MAYBE TO JERRY, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TODAY, THAT'S FINE.

IF WE ARE AWARDED THOSE FUNDS, UM, THROUGH OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH MIMI, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF SPLIT, UH, FUNDS THAT HAVE TO GO ON WITH THAT? I'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR SURE ON THAT, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.

WE HAVE A SPECIFIC

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SO WHETHER THAT FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY FOR A SPLIT.

EXCELLENT.

NEXT UP IS I'M 11 PENDING BUSINESS, UH, ITEM 11, A MR. ROGERS ITEM 11 EIGHT, AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A RESIGNING TO PLAN A RESIDENTIAL AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 14.18 ACRES AT BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD IN FITCHBURG ROAD IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL IDP SEVEN ZERO ZERO THREE NINE ZERO EIGHT ZERO ONE 46 ON THE GUMTREE COUNTY AUDITOR'S TAX MAP AND ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING CASE.

THANK YOU, MARY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MR. MCCALSKY JC NOW WE'LL MOVE ON.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning To Planned Residential And A Basic Development Plan For 14.18 Acres At Bellefontaine Road And Fishburg Road Identified As Parcel ID P70 03908 0146 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Tax Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Zoning Case 21-08). (second reading)]

TWO ONE DASH ZERO EIGHT AT THE SECOND READING.

THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS.

SO THIS IS THE SECOND READING FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ZONING ORDINANCE THIS EVENING.

LAST I JUST, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO HEAR THAT, UH, TO SPEAK THIS EVENING REGARDING THIS AND, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY GET THROUGH ALL THOSE AND ANSWER EVERYONE'S QUESTIONS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START THIS LAST, UM, THE MEETING MR. DEAK WAS HERE AND CERTAINLY IT HAD SOME COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING HE HAD HAD APPROACHED ME AND HE WAS CONCERNED THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN AT THIS MEETING WHEN THE SECOND READING WAS GOING TO BE HAD.

SO I HAD TOLD HIM THEN IF HE WOULD SUBMIT AN EMAIL TO ME OR TO MR. ROGERS, I'D MAKE SURE THAT I GOT IT.

AND I WOULD READ THAT PERSONALLY FOR HIM AT THE MEETING HE HAS DONE.

SO, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE READ IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT PERTAINS AND CONSISTS OF THINGS THAT ARE ACCURATE AT THE MOMENT.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, BUT I DO HAVE THIS EMAIL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ, AND THIS EMAIL HAS BEEN SENT TO COUNSEL.

EVERYONE HAS IT, BUT I DO WANT TO FOLLOW MY PROMISE AND READ THIS ON BEHALF OF MR. D CAUSE I TOLD HIM I WOULD.

SO THIS EMAIL BEGINS WITH MR. GOREY.

YOU INDICATED TO ME THE LAST COUNSELING THAT YOU WOULD READ MY STATEMENT SINCE I WOULD BE IN SAN DESTIN, FLORIDA.

HERE IT IS IN REFERENCES, ISI 21 DASH OH EIGHT, THE KELLER DEVELOPER.

I'M ALSO SENDING THIS TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND CLERK OF COUNCIL.

SO THEY HAVE A COPY BEFORE YOU READ IT.

SO THIS IS THE STATEMENT OF RON DEEK AT 59 OH EIGHT OAK TREE OAK CREEK TRAIL IN HEBREW HEIGHTS.

SO THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, MR. SHAWL RECOMMENDED THAT THE DEVELOPER MR. KAYLOR MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THE BOOKS, I GRADUALLY SLOWLY OPENED UP MY HOUSE WITH PROPER SETBACKS AND THE KITCHEN.

AND APPROXIMATELY 12 PEOPLE ATTENDED, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPER, MR. KAYLOR, LIKE EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED, UH, TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPER AND COMMUNITY FOR COMING AND SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS.

WHAT HE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENDEES IS A SKETCH OF 29 UNITS WITH THE 85 FOOT LOTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, OUR MASTER PLAN, COMMUNITY HATS.

WELL, THE COMMUNITY ACCEPTED THIS, MR. KELLER INDICATED THAT HE WOULD NEED THE TOTAL HELP FROM THE CITY TO EITHER BUY A LOT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY ADJACENT OR WHEN THE BELL FOUNTAIN EXPANSION IS COMPLETE TO HAVE THE CITY DO THE MAJOR CONNECTION, EXTENSIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE TWO OPTIONS FIRST IS FOR THE CITY TO BUY A LOT AND USE IT AS A THROUGH FARE THROUGH THE FINAL PHASE OF THE OAKS MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.

AND THE SECOND, IF THE FIRST DID NOT COME TO FRUITION WAS AN ENTRANCE ON BELL FOUNTAIN.

IN BOTH CASES, THE CITY WOULD BE EXPECTED TO PURCHASE THE LAND AND PROVIDE THE MAIN UTILITY CONNECTIONS, EXPENSIVE COST AVOIDANCE, A HUGE COST TO THE CITY AND ZERO TO MR. KAYLOR, THE PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AT MY HOUSE WHILE AGREED THAT IF HE COULD SELL EITHER OPTION TO THE CITY, THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT HIS PLAN AS IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR OUR EXISTING COMMUNITY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT HE HAD MET WITH, UH, SCOTT FOR KOSKI.

AND THE RESULTS FROM THAT MEETING IS THAT THE SAME DOES NOT ENTER INTO THOSE TYPES OF ARRANGEMENTS.

AS IT TYPICALLY DOES NOT BRING IN THE TAX BASE TO SUPPORT THIS ENDEAVOR.

I'VE ALSO SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY, AND THEY SAY THE SAME THING.

NO, IT WOULD SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT AS ANY OTHER DEVELOPER WOULD BE ASKING FOR THE SAME TREATMENT BOTTOM LINE, THE CITY WOULD BE USING OUR TAX DOLLARS AS YOU AND I AND EVERYONE IN THE CITY TO HELP THE DEVELOPER.

WHY DO I SAY HELP DEVELOPER, AS I SEE IT PAID A HIGHLY INFLATED PRICE FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE BIDDING MORE WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER, WE, HEBREW RIGHTS SHOULD NOT ENTER INTO ANY AGREEMENT TO WHAT I WOULD CALL HELPING OUT THE DEVELOPER TO SUPPORT HIS PLAN BASED ON HIS INVESTMENT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTIES SINCE HE, UH, PAID DOUBLE THAN WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE.

THE DEVELOPMENT STILL NEEDS TO MEET ALL CRITERIA TO EXIST IF OVER 30 PLUS UNITS AND ALL THE LOT SIZES AND SETBACKS, ET CETERA, NO EXCEPTION WHEN YOU WERE HEIGHTS AND THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE OAKS SHOULD NOT BAIL OUT TO SUBSIDIZE THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE A PROFIT.

IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, THIS DEVELOPER WILL HAVING A GOOD INTENTION TO MEET THE CRITERIA DOES NOT HAVE IT OR UNDERSTAND WHAT A PLAN COMMUNITY CONSISTS OF.

WE SHOULD NOT AS A CITY, BE IN THE BUSINESS TO HELP A DEVELOPER MAKE A PROFIT, UNLESS THE END RESULT IS A TAXABLE BASE THAT WOULD COME TO THE CITY AND THAT IS CURRENTLY UNKNOWN AND WILL NEVER MATERIALIZE AS WE WOULD NOT KNOW WHO LIVES THERE AND WHO DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE TAX BASE COULD SUPPORT SUCH A DECISION.

I PREVIOUS COMMENTS ON LIFE SAFETY ARE KNOWN AND ON RECORDS.

THERE'S NO NEED TO ELABORATE THERE ANYMORE.

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I RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL VOTE TO REJECT THE PLAN IS CURRENTLY SUBMITTED AS ANY MODIFICATION TO THE DEVELOPER'S PLAN WOULD NOT REPEAT, WOULD NOT MEET THE CRITERIA.

IF YOU GO TO A VOTE THIS EVENING, I RECOMMEND THAT EACH MEMBER OF COUNCIL VOTE NO BASED ON NOT MEETING THE CRITERIA AND NOT GETTING THE CITY AND A PRECEDENT SETTING RULE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

AND ALLOWING ME TO WRITE THIS AS I'M OUT OF TOWN AND YOU READING THIS, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COUNCIL DOES TO MAKE THE CITY GROW AND PROSPER IN THE CORRECT MANNER, MR. RON D.

SO THAT IS A STATEMENT FROM MR. D THAT, UH, WE SAID WE WOULD READ, UH, MR. ROGERS, IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL ON EVERYONE THAT IS NOT REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

UH, FIRST UP WE HAVE MR. CHRISTOPHER CALLER.

WELL, THAT, THAT WAS PARTIALLY ACCURATE PARTIALLY.

I THINK NOT, NOT QUITE WHAT I MEANT WHEN WE, WE, I DID MEET WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORS, UH, SOME OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN AND A FEW PEOPLE THAT I HAD NOT MET BEFORE.

AND WE, WE ALL TOSSED AROUND A LOT OF IDEAS.

AND THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS KIND OF ASKED FOR A ROLL BACK TO THE ORIGINAL APPROVED PLAN, WHERE THERE WAS A STUB INTO MY LAND.

UM, WHICH, YEAH, SO WE, WE TALKED TO SCOTT AND HE LET US KNOW THAT THAT WASN'T FEASIBLE.

SO THAT KINDA ENDED RIGHT THERE.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHEN, WHEN WE FINISHED THE LAST MEETING, IT SOUNDED LIKE THIS WOULD BE MORE DISCUSSION, BUT I I'VE LEARNED WE ARE VOTING.

AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I UNDERSTAND IF WE ARE WE ABLE TO AMEND WHAT CAME OUT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ANY EXTENT.

AND IF WE DID, DOES IT THEN INCREASE THE REQUIRED VOTES NEEDED TO PASS? SO, YES.

SO I THINK SO PROCEDURALLY, I GUESS I'LL KIND OF GO OVER WHAT, WHAT I BELIEVE COULD HAPPEN THIS EVENING.

SO THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE AT THE SECOND READING, A MOTION CAN BE MADE AT ANY TIME BY COUNCIL MEMBER TO, UM, TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND IF THAT MOTION WAS SECONDED, THEN VOTE WOULD TAKE PLACE BASED ON WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.

UH, I THINK, UH, MR. ROGERS, CRAIG AND I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE COULD BE A MOTION TO AMEND THE ZONING CASE THAT IS IN FRONT OF US.

NOW, IF, UH, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER VOTED TO OR MADE AN, A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE, IT WOULD TAKE SIX VOTES TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.

AND IF THAT AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED, THEN IT WOULD GO TO A VOTE.

AND THEN IT WOULD ONLY TAKE FIVE VOTES AS A, AS A, A SIMPLE MAJORITY TO APPROVE WHATEVER THE AMENDED ORDINANCE WOULD BE.

THE OTHER OPTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER COULD VOTE TO, UH, OR MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT AGAIN, MOVE TO A THIRD READING.

AND IF THERE WAS A APPROVAL TO MOVE TO A THIRD READING, THEN THAT COULD, THAT COULD HAPPEN AS WELL.

SO PROCEDURALLY, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I'VE SAID, OR THAT, THAT WAS WRONG, YOU LET ME KNOW.

THE ONLY PART WOULD BE IS THAT THE ORDINANCE IS AMENDED.

IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE SIX BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AMENDED FROM THE ORIGINAL PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.

SO SINCE, UH, YEAH, SO IF IT'S DIFFERENT THAN, YES, IT WOULD REQUIRE SIX, SO IT WOULD REQUIRE SIX TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE AND THEN PASSAGE OF THE ORDINANCE.

THEN IF SOMEONE MADE MOTION WOULD REQUIRE SIX VOTES AS WELL, BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION W THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO THEY, SO THERE ARE, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THIS EVENING, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS COUNCIL DECIDES THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO.

MR. MAYOR.

READ HERE THE SAME CASE WITHIN A YEAR.

UH, IF I MAY ASK A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FROM OUR, UH, UH, STEAMED AND, UH, APPRECIATED CLERK OF COUNCIL, UM, ANOTHER OPTION, UH, TO ADD TO THE MAYOR, UH, AS COMMENTS, UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO TABLE THIS ORDINANCE INDEFINITELY AND ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE A SECOND REVIEW WITH ANY OF MR KELLER'S AMENDMENT? UM, AT ANY TIME COUNSEL CAN DO A MOTION TO POSTPONE ACTION INDEFINITELY, WHICH WOULD END THIS PROCESS WITH CITY COUNCIL.

UM, SCOTT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE THE EXPERT ON IT COMING BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD NEED TO, UM, REFILE AN APPLICATION, UM, WITH ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND THEN REWORK THE WHOLE PROCESS.

AGAIN, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE AMENDMENTS ARE, UM, BECAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION CANNOT

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SO I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHAT AMENDMENTS MAY COME UP, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE ONE THAT WAS PROPOSED ALREADY, UH, CANNOT HAPPEN ABOUT PUTTING IT STRAIGHT THROUGH TO BE EXISTING THROUGH AN EXISTING LOCKS AS, UH, UM, THERE ARE EXISTING, UM, CONTRACTS ON HOUSES.

AND, UH, THE, UH, CURRENT OWNER SAID THAT THERE'S NOT THE ABILITY TO SELL ONE OF THOSE LOTS.

SO I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT AMENDMENTS, UH, THERE MIGHT BE PROPOSED.

ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE COUNCIL COULD SEND IT TO AN ADDITIONAL READING AS WELL AS ALLOWED TIME FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OR PLANNING.

SO, GOOD, GOOD.

HOW MANY COULD YOU WAIT, COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT AGAIN? ME NANCY? I SAID THE COUNCIL COULD ALSO SEND THE CASE AND THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE TO AN ADDITIONAL READING, A THIRD READING, UH, TO ALLOW MORE DISCUSSION IF IT CHOSE TO DO SO.

WHAT, WHAT MR. D SAID WAS, I THINK APPROXIMATELY ACCURATE.

I CERTAINLY THOUGHT THAT THE IDEA WAS COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL, THAT WE ASKED FOR THAT AS KIND OF A GROUP, BUT, UM, YEAH, I THINK A LOT OF THE DISCONNECT IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ACCESS MY LAND FROM THE OAKS.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS NICER THAN LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, ONE OF THE NICEST IN THE AREA.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IF I COULD CONNECT TO IT, MY LAND WOULD BE WORTH MORE.

I THINK THE LOTS WOULD BE WORTH MORE.

UM, BUT WHEN I CAN'T, THEN IT CHANGES MY OPINION.

AND I THINK THEY AGREED WITH ME ON THAT AT LEAST WHEN WE TALKED.

SO THAT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT, THAT THERE'S NO OPTION THERE, BUT ANYWAY, I GUESS, AND I'M, I'M HESITANT TO DO THIS BECAUSE THE WHOLE SIX VERSUS FIVE VOTES, BUT IN AN EFFORT TO HASH THINGS OUT AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IS WORKABLE FOR EVERYONE, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE AGREEABLE TO DROPPING THE 75 FOOT LOTS AND MAKING THE MINIMUM 80.

AND, AND THAT, THAT PROCESS, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD DROP THE LOT, COUNT BY ONE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT DRAWN OUT BECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT THAT QUICKLY.

UM, AND ANOTHER IDEA I HAD WAS TO GET THAT SECOND ACCESS POINT WITH A FREE FIRE TRUCK, WE COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE IN THE STUB THAT BECAME THE SILVER OAKS.

THEY HAD A GRAVEL ACCESS, WHICH I GUESS MET THE SEVENTY-FIVE THOUSAND POUND FIRETRUCK REQUIREMENT.

WE COULD POSSIBLY DO A SECOND ACCESS LIKE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE THINNER, BUT NOT REALLY INTENDED AS, AS NORMAL.

THOSE WERE SOME IDEAS I HAD TO TRY TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE MORE, UH, TO EVERYONE.

UM, WHEN I HEARD THAT WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY GET THE ROLL BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL.

UM, AND I DID REQUEST THAT SCOTT GIVE THE OVERVIEW JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY OF THE, THE FULL, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND OUR RESPONSES TO ALL OF THE COMMENTS THUS FAR.

UH, SO I HOPE HE'LL BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT BEFORE WE DO VOTE, BUT YEAH, THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.

THANK YOU, MR. KAYLOR.

NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, MR. BRAD SMITH, GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THANKS FOR LETTING US SPEAK TODAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF BACK TO THE SAME PLACE WE'VE DISCUSSED DENSITY AND LOT WIDTH.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE TO ALL OF THIS IS, IS THERE'S AN ORDINANCE FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OF THE OAKS AND MR. KELLER'S LAND IS STILL PART OF THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT SETS ALL OF THE LOT STANDARDS WITH SQUARE FOOTAGE OR ACREAGE, UM, BUILDING MATERIAL, ALL THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, ALL THAT AT LENGTH.

THE CURRENT PHASE THAT'S BEING BUILT ARE RELUCTANT TO USE THE WORD PHASE THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, ALL MEETS

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ALL OF THOSE LOTS.

MEET THE ORDINANCE.

ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2003 FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT BE MAINTAINED RIGHT, RIGHT NOW.

AND WITH, UH, THIS WAS BEFORE MR. KAYLOR OFFERED TO CHANGE SOME OF THE LOTS SIZES, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, 26 OF HIS 34 LOTS THAT ARE PLANNED, DON'T MEET THAT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH 21 OF THE 34 LOTS.

DON'T MEET OUR MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE.

UM, AND ONE EXTRA LOT, ANY REALLY GONNA HELP MUCH.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU EITHER AMEND THE PROPOSAL TO MATCH THE ORDINANCE, THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS, THE 2003 ORDINANCE OR VOTE NOW.

OVER THE YEARS AND TIME AFTER TIME, OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS MAINTAINED THAT THE ORIGINAL STANDARDS SHOULD APPLY.

THANK YOU, MR. SMITH.

LAST UP WE HAVE, UH, MR. SANDY SMITH.

SORRY.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TIME TO SPEAK YET AGAIN, ON THIS TOPIC.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PARCEL OF LAND IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WITHIN THE HUGS, MR. KOHLER DID COME AND MEET WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND SHOWED US A DRAWING THAT HAD 29 LOTS THAT WERE 85 FEET WIDE.

AND THERE WAS A CORNER PARK AND WE SAW THAT AND WE SMILED AND WE LEANED IN INTEREST WAS HIGH.

BUT THEN WHEN HE SAID THAT HE NEEDED OUR SUPPORT TO GET THE CITY TO ASSIST WITH SOME OF THE COSTS FOR THAT WORK, WE DIDN'T LEAN IN ANYMORE.

WE KIND OF SAT BACK BECAUSE THE CITY TO PAY FOR, TO ME SOUNDS LIKE USE MY TAX DOLLARS.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT BENEFIT IT IS TO THE CITY, TO THE CITIZENS OF HUBER HEIGHTS, TO ASSIST A DEVELOPER IN MAKING THIS COME.

IF THERE'S NO PAYBACK TO THE CITY ITSELF, IS I UNDERSTAND THAT THOUGH, THIS, THIS, UH, PLAN THAT HE HAS PROPOSED IS UNWORKABLE BECAUSE THE LAND NECESSARY TO MAKE IT WORK IS NOT AVAILABLE.

LAST TIME I CHECKED ONLINE, THE PROPOSAL WAS NOT REVISED TO THE 85 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

THERE WERE MORE THAN 29 LOTS AND THERE'S NO CAR PARK.

SO HERE WE ARE.

AGAIN, THE RESIDENTS OF THE OAKS ARE STANDING TOGETHER REQUESTING THAT THE STANDARDS OF ORDINANCE 1405 FROM 2003, CONTINUE TO BE UPHELD.

ONE THING I DID LEARN IN SPEAKING WITH MR. KOHLER, AND WE HAD SEVERAL VERY NICE CONVERSATIONS WAS THAT HE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE LAND HE BOUGHT WAS PART OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

AND HE DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS SO SIGNIFICANT TO US.

AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THERE MAY BE SUCH A DISCONNECT IN OUR CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WE'RE COMING FROM THE POINT OF VIEW THAT THERE ARE, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE TO BE COMPLIED WITH, AND HE'S COMING UP WITH AN IDEA THAT HE WANTS US TO COMPROMISE WITH.

SO THIS PARCEL HAS BEEN, AND STILL IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL 116.9 ACRES THAT MAKES UP OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

THIS PARCEL IS STILL THE MOST VISUAL PART OF OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THE LOOK AND THE VISION OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IT WAS REPEATEDLY ASKED.

COULD YOU REALLY TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN A LOT SIZE, WELL THAT 85 FOOT WATT LIGHT, EXCUSE ME, 80 FOOT WIDE BLOCK.

IT IS SIGNIFICANT.

IT ALLOWS FOR THAT HIGHLY DESIRABLE THREE CAR GARAGE, A NICE WIDE DRIVEWAY.

IT ALLOWS FOR THE ELBOW SPACE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER NANCY BERG TALKED ABOUT, AND IT ALLOWS FOR THE SPACIOUS LOOK THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS COME TO HAS COME TO BE KNOWN ABOUT WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH, THERE'S A LOT OF PRIDE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING WORK GOING ON.

THE HOUSES ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF AND THEIR SPACE WITH THAT LOVELY THAT WE CAN ALL SEE IT'S AN 85 FOOT WIDE.

WE DISCUSSED DENSITY AT LENGTH AND WE'VE DISCUSSED DIFFERENT METHODS OF FINDING DENSITY.

BUT ONE THING THAT MR FALKOWSKI AND I THINK HAVE AGREED UPON WHEN WE'VE HAD OUR MANY DISCUSSIONS, IS THAT IF YOU CHANGE THE LOT WITH MAINTAINING ALL THE OTHER STANDARDS AND REDUCE IT FROM 85 FEET, YOU WILL INCREASE THE DENSITY DENSITY OR ANY CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL STANDARDS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN CHALLENGED

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WE'RE 85% COMPLETE AT THIS POINT.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW ANY VARIANCE IN THIS FINAL 15%.

WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT EITHER OUR STANDARDS BE MAINTAINED OR THAT PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS APPLICATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MS. SMITH CHARGERS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CAMPBELL, SCOTT.

IN REGARDS TO THE STANDARD THAT WAS JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, WITH THE RESOLUTION IN THAT AREA AND BEING TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT TO REQUIRE DATING LIFE.

FOOTLONGS, UH, THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE BACK IN 2003 AND THEN MODIFIED IN 2005.

THE LOT WITH, UH, WHICH IS, WOULD REQUIRE A AMENDMENT BY CITY COUNCIL TO THAT 85 FOOT, AS YOU JUST SAID, TO MATCH THAT, UM, ORIGINAL ORDINANCE BUILDING MATERIALS, MOUNDING, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, ALL MATCH.

UH, SO IT'S JUST THE 85 FOOT WIDTH, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT TO WOULD, UH, TAKE AN AMENDMENT MAYOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF NOW'S THE RIGHT TIME, BUT I WOULDN'T BE PREPARED TO MAKE THAT, SO.

SO ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE 85 FOOT LOT? IF, IF NOW IS APPROPRIATE? YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT TO REQUIRE HOLD THE LINE SPEED.

85 FEET.

SO THAT'S, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE THE MINIMUM LOT WITH 85 FEET.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION, MRS. BIRD SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL ON THE AMENDMENT OR AMENDING OF THIS AGENDA? MR. WEBB? THANK YOU.

MA'AM THIS WOULD BE A QUESTION ON, I THINK FOR CAL SPAIN AT 85 FEET, HOW MANY LAW ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NOW? IT WOULD BE 29 OR 32, DEPENDING ON HOW IT GETS LAID OUT.

UM, BUT 85 FOOT MEETS THE, UM, DENSITY.

SO IT WOULD BE PROBABLY 29, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE 30.

MA'AM AND IF MY RECOLLECTION IS CORRECT AT 30 OR BELOW, THERE'S NO SECONDARY ENTRANCE.

IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO IF IT'S 29 OR 30 THERE'S THERE'S NO SECONDARY EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT'S REQUIRED.

MR. LYONS? YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, TO MAKE SURE I HEARD AND UNDERSTAND, UH, UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION.

UM, IT'S TO MAKE EACH LOT 85 FOOT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

MR. CAMPBELL MOTION TO MAKE EACH LOT OF MINIMUM 85 FEET.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MR. SHAW? THANK YOU, MERIT.

UM, IT WOULD BE MY REQUEST TO COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL TO, UH, TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION.

I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DRAWING IN THIS, UM, AMENDMENT, UH, IN WRITING, UH, PUBLICLY NOTICED, UM, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AT OUR NEXT WORK SESSION.

UM, I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

I THINK IT GIVES, UH, THE DEVELOPER, UM, UM, AMOUNT OF TIME TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

UM, AND TO HAVE THE ACTUAL DRAWING AND WRITING FOR THESE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT DISCUSSING THIS.

MA'AM MS. BIRCH? YES.

UM, FROM ONE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTS IN THE OAKS, UH, THEY WERE FAVORABLE TOWARD A 29, UH, LOT DEVELOPMENT, POSSIBLY A 30.

UM, IF, IF THAT WERE APPROVED, THEN THE TOTAL LAYOUT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SUBSEQUENTLY TO THE CITIZENS OR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE OAKS.

AND LATER TO COUNCIL, WHEN THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS PRESENTED, WOULD IT NOT BE, I WOULD TO SEE THIS PUSH TO ANOTHER READING BECAUSE, WELL, NEVERMIND, GO AHEAD.

AND DOES APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN PHASE, WHICH WOULD HAVE ALL THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE LOTS SEWERS AND STREETS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT JUST GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION THAT DOES NOT COME BACK CITY COUNCIL.

SCOTT VIEWED A MISS ADDRESS, MS. BIRCH COMMENTS.

UM, SO WHAT SHE JUST MENTIONED IS YES, IF COUNCIL DOES AMENDS

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SO WHAT, UH, YOU WOULD APPROVE IF APPROVED AS AMENDED IS THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE JUST AS THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.

UH, SO THE ACTUAL FINAL PLAN WITH ALL THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS WOULD GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION AS A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND SO IN THAT DETAIL, DON'T THINK GOES BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION, RIGHT? WELL, IT DOESN'T COME TO COUNCIL.

THOSE ARE ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS.

EVERYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO AND ATTEND WHO WANTED TO GO TO SEE ALL THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT, ALL THOSE DETAILS, FILM PLAN, UH, CHANGES OR, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS.

I MEAN, I MEAN, WE TALKED DETAILED PLAN IS EVERYTHING DOWN TO MAILBOX, LOCATIONS, ALL, ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO THOSE ARE ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS AT ALL THESE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO COME TO AN ATTENDANCY CORRECT PLAN AS A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WEBB, THANK YOU, MARY SCOTT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EITHER WAY, WHETHER WE PUT THIS OFF FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION OR ANOTHER MEETING, WHEN WE APPROVE IT, THEN IT'S STILL GOING TO GO JUST AS YOU DESCRIBED DETAILED FINAL DETAILS.

PROBLEM.

IT'S GOT TO GO BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, NOT THIS BODY.

SO, UM, AND OUR FARMS TOO.

UM, MY COLLEAGUE, HUH? I'D SAY WE MOVE ON IT TO ALLOW THOSE, TO GET TO PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND MAYOR, UM, IF YOU WOULD, PERHAPS YOU COULD ASK IF THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT FROM OUR OAKS RESTAURANTS HERE TONIGHT, YOU, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.

AND I CERTAINLY WOULD ASK, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT ANY OF THESE RESIDENTS ARE OPPOSED TO AN 85 FOOT LOT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KEEPS THE SAME STANDARD.

THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE SMITHS THIS EVENING.

UM, UH, YES, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND CORRECT.

ANYTHING ELSE WITH NUMBERS.

IF WE GO TO AN 85 FOOT LOT WITH A 142 FOOT DEPTH, THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO EIGHT, 12,000 SQUARE FOOT.

IT TURNS OUT THAT WAY.

BECAUSE THE MINIMUM WIDTH OF 85 MINIMUM DEPTH, DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THAT NUMBER? UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE NEED TO, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED AS THOSE ARE MINIMUMS, UM, THE, THE MATH WILL COME OUT AS LARGE.

I WAS JUST ALWAYS TAUGHT, COVER EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME.

APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THAT.

SO IS THERE ANYONE, ANYONE HERE THAT, UM, WOULD HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT? YES, SIR.

SO, UM, WILLIAM, MY NAME IS WILLIAM CLARK.

SO, UH, IN REFERENCE TO THAT, IF IT'S THE 85, UH, FLIPPED BLONDES 122, THAT IF IT'S APPROVED OR VOTED ON THIS EVENING, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE NEW ORDINANCE.

THEN IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO THIS BODY AGAIN FOR REVIEW AT ALL.

AND I, SO THAT, THAT, YEAH, IT DOES NOT, IT WOULD GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT PLAN WILL BE WORKED OUT WITH THE AMENDED ORDINANCE, UH, THAT THAT WOULD EITHER BE, WOULD BE IF COUNCIL APPROVED THAT THIS EVENING, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE.

AND THEN THOSE, UH, DISCUSSIONS WILL TAKE PLACE IN A PUBLIC MEETING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, READING SO THAT THE DECISION IS MADE HERE OVER THAT.

SO MY APPROVAL WOULD NOT COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

SO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THIS FORM HERE AGAIN.

UH, AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BACK HERE.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BACK HERE BECAUSE YOU ARE OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FOR NOT FOR OUR WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO WITH THE DECISION ALREADY HERE, AND I APPRECIATE MR. SHAW'S COMMENTS, UH, EARLIER ON ABOUT HAVING THAT, WHAT THAT DRAWING LOOKS LIKE, HOW IT'S LAID OUT, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED FOR IN ONE OF THOSE ORIGINAL PLANS WAS SOME GREEN SPACE PLANNING COMMISSION TOOK THE GREEN SPACE OUT OF IT ALTOGETHER AND DID NOT ADDRESS IT.

AND SO I'M CONCERNED THAT I'M GOING TO SEE A DRAWING THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY GREEN SPACE IN IT.

I'M GOING TO SEE, UH, AND IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON IT.

I WOULD PREFER THAT IT COME BACK TO THIS BODY FOR THAT FINAL REVIEW AND THAT FINALS,

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SO I THINK PROCEDURALLY THOUGH, THE, THE, THE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT ALL COUNCIL ONLY APPROVES THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THIS CASE WE'RE, IT'S THE REZONING OF THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS A, IS A BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AT THEIR LEVEL ON THE DETAILED PLAN.

SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE DETAILS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE DECIDED THAT IS.

UM, I MEAN, I GUESS IT IS COUNCIL CAN PROBABLY DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO AS LONG AS TONY, IF WE'RE NOT OUT OF, UM, TOO FAR OUT OF THE PROCEDURE OF HOW, OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK, BUT THAT DETAILED PLAN HISTORICALLY NEVER COMES BACK TO COUNCIL.

ONCE THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED, THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DO.

UM, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WOULD BE EVERYONE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND I WILL BE THERE, OR THIS IS THERE AND, AND, AND SPEAK TO BODY THEMSELVES AND LET THEM KNOW THINGS THAT YOU WOULD DEMAND.

I'M SURE THERE'LL BE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THAT MEETING AS WELL, A PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE DETAILED PLAN LEVEL, BUT THAT'S WHERE ON EVERY DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY THAT'S WHERE THAT PARTICULAR PIECES IS DISCUSSED AND, AND APPROVED.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE DETAILED PORTION OF IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE SKIPPED OVER A STEP TO GET THERE.

AND, UH, MY THOUGHTS WERE THAT IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE ACTUAL REVIEW OF THOSE DETAILS, WHERE THE SEWER LINES ARE LAID OUT, ALL THOSE PARTICULARS THAT ARE NECESSARY.

SO THE DEVELOPER'S ENGINEER WOULD WORK WITH OUR ENGINEER ON ANY CHANGES TO THAT PLAN AND MAKING WHATEVER THE, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE.

THE ENGINEERS FROM THE CITY AND IN JERSEY, THE, FROM THE DEVELOPER WOULD WORK TO PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER.

THOSE WOULD ALL BE PART OF THE, OF THE DETAILED PLAN.

IT WOULD MAP OUT AND SHOW ALL THE LANDSCAPING, THE MOUNDING, UM, AGAIN, DOWN TO MAILBOXES, UH, MAYBE EVEN DESIGN OF STOP SIGNS, IF THEY'RE ANY DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE IN THAT DETAIL PLAN THAT THEN COMES BACK AND IS PRESENTED PLANNING, COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION WILL REVIEW ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.

AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN SUGGEST, RECOMMEND, MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE DETAILED PLAN.

BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE D NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PIECE.

THEY'RE NOT THE REZONING, WHICH IS WHAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE, THAT'S THE LAW.

SO WE'RE DETERMINING THE ORDINANCE AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL DETERMINE ALL THE DETAILS, BUT ALL THOSE MEETINGS HAPPEN PUBLICLY.

AND PLEASE DO SHOW UP, HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, LET PLANNING, COMMISSION KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THERE, BECAUSE THEY CAN ALSO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPER AS PART OF, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THAT DISCUSSION REALLY SHOULD BE TAKING PLACE IS FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS TO THE, TO THE DEVELOPER.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. OTTO.

YEAH, IF I MAY, I THINK THE, THE ONLY WAY TO TRULY SATISFY, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING WOULD BE TO TAKE MR. SHAWLS RECOMMENDATION TO BRING IT BACK THAT WOULD ALLOW MR. KAYLOR TO MAKE ANY CHANGES HE WOULD WANT TO DO, AND TO KIND OF MIX THAT AROUND IN HIS WORLD.

AND THEN IT WOULD ALLOW THAT PRESENTATION TO BE BROUGHT BACK IF HE CHOSE TO DO SO.

AND WE ALSO LEFT OUT AND AN OPTION FOR MR. KELLER AS WELL.

I MEAN, BOTTOM LINE, HE COULD DECIDE THAT HE'S JUST GONNA PULL THIS COMPLETELY AND THEN WALK AWAY.

UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION AS WELL.

UM, BUT, UH, I THINK, YEAH, THE ONLY WAY, IF, IF YOU GUYS WERE ALL LOOKING FOR THAT BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO SHOW THAT 85 FOOT, NOW IT'D BE LAID OUT AND WHATNOT.

MR. SHAWLS RECOMMENDATION, I THINK, WOULD BE ABOUT THE ONLY WAY TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR MR. KAYLOR TO BRING THAT THAT'S SHARP.

THANK YOU, MARY.

AND, UH, AND SIR, TO, TO YOUR POINT, AND I THINK IT WAS MADE, UH, EARLIER, UH, TO NOT CONTINUE THIS OUT.

I KNOW THIS HAS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK, UH, REGARDING SOME, UH, SOME TRASH HAULING DISCUSSIONS POSSIBLY AFTER A, UM, A SCHEDULE CHANGE OR A WORK SESSION TO NEXT MONDAY WITH THAT BEING THE CASE.

IF THIS COUNCIL DISCUSSED THIS MATTER AND MR. KELLER HAD THAT INFORMATION, OUR ORDINANCE WAS UPDATED FOR THE MONDAY WORK SESSION.

A SPECIAL MEETING COULD DEFINITELY BE CALLED TO NOT ONLY DISCUSS OUR TRASH HAULING, BUT ALSO TO DISCUSS THIS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF US ARE, IS AS WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TONIGHT, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN TOO MANY TIMES IN THE CITY WHERE WE'VE SAID ONE THING AND DONE ANOTHER LET'S HAVE THE DOCUMENTS, LET'S HAVE IT IN WRITING IN FRONT OF US BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.

BEFORE YOU, THE RESIDENT PUT THE TRUST IN US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENSURING YOUR SAFETY AND WELLBEING.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES.

MA'AM THANK YOU.

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THAT CAUSE I'VE RECEIVED QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LATEST SECTION OF THE OAKS THAT WAS BUILT.

SORRY.

I'VE BEEN SCRIBBLING DOWN NOTES HERE.

JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

UM, I GUESS I, I'D CERTAINLY PREFER TO NOT TAKE MR. SHAW'S RECOMMENDATION AND JUST GET IT OVER WITH AND VOTE ON IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A HUGE DEAL EITHER WAY.

IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW.

UM, SO I GUESS WHAT, WHAT I ACTUALLY SHOWED HAD NO HAD NO LOTS OF DRAWN OUT WHEN I WENT TO MEET THE NEIGHBORS, UH, WHAT IT SAID AND WHAT I SAID WAS 85 FOOT LOTS.

AND THIS, THIS IS LIKE ME THINKING CONTINGENT UPON CONNECTING IN TO THE OAKS AND ACTUALLY BEING PART OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT I SAID 85 FOOT, LOTS, HOWEVER MANY WOULD FIT.

WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER WOULD BE GREEN SPACE ON A CORNER OF THE ISLAND.

I WOULDN'T STRETCH THE LOTS.

IT WOULD JUST BE, HOWEVER MUCH AREA IS LEFT OVER IS HOW BIG THE GREEN SPACE WOULD BE IS WHAT I TALKED ABOUT WITH THEM.

UM, AND I'M, I MIGHT POST THAT CONVERSATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA CAUSE I'M GETTING MISQUOTED LEFT AND RIGHT HERE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

UM, SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, NO, WE, WE DEFINITELY KNEW THAT IT WAS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT I, WHAT I HAD SAID WAS BECAUSE THERE IS A CHURCH THAT HAS, IS KIND OF A DRASTIC CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE ALREADY THAT WE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE NOT SO MUCH PUSHBACK IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CONVEY.

NOT THAT I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WE WERE BUYING AND THERE, THERE WASN'T A BIDDING WAR.

WE BID WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH AND WE BID IT UP ONCE.

BUT ANYWAY, YEAH, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST ACCEPT WRITING IN WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED AS 85 FOOT, LOTS AND EFFORT OF SIMPLICITY, BASICALLY WHAT MR. CAMPBELL SUGGESTED.

IF, UH, ANOTHER THING WE ALSO MENTIONED AT THAT MEETING AND DISCUSSED IS IF WE WERE INTEGRATED THAT FAR INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAP THEIR, YOUR RETENTION SYSTEM BY EXTENDING THE BASIN TO THE SIZE THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED SIMILAR TO HOW THESE SILVER OAKS TAPPED INTO THE OAKS RETENTION SYSTEM, WHICH IS MY UNDERSTANDING PARTIALLY OWNED BY THE CITY.

WE WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL, JUST LIKE THE SILVER OAKS, IF WE WERE REALLY EXTENDING TO EXACTLY MEET THE ORDINANCE.

UM, SO I WOULD WANT THAT TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE CHANGING HERE, UH, IS THAT FEASIBLE, LIKE WHAT I'M ASKING HERE, UH, MR. , UM, THE, THIS ORDINANCE CANNOT REQUIRE THE CONNECTION OF THE RETENTION POND FOR THIS PORTION TO A PRIVATE PROPERTY.

NOW THERE CAN BE NEGOTIATIONS AND THERE CAN BE AN AGREEMENTS BEFORE THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN COMES THROUGH TO MAKE AN OVERALL BETTER PLAN BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.

UM, BUT FOR THIS ORDINANCE, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE DETENTION, THE EXACT DESIGN OF WHICH WOULD COME FORWARD AT THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN PHASE.

SO THE LOCATION, UM, THAT'S SHOWN ON THE DRAWING, UM, IS THE RIGHT PLACE, THE LOW END OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, SO THE, WE CANNOT REQUIRE A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY WITH THIS PROPOSAL TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR EXISTING POND OR DETENTION BASIN.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THEIR CAMP, WE WOULD MAKE IT WORK.

UM, BUT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD WORK.

W WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS IN THE DETAILED PLAN? IF I WORK HAD MY ENGINEER DO THE CALCULATIONS BASED ON THE EXISTING RETENTION SYSTEM, AND HE SAW THAT EXTENDING THE DRY BASIN ONTO MY LAND WOULD WORK.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD PROPOSE AS PART OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IF THERE'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER? YES.

SO IS THAT HOW IT WORKED WITH THE SILVER OAKS? CAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER THING THE NEIGHBORS EXPRESSED THAT THEY WERE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SILVER OAKS CONNECTING.

SO I'LL ADDRESS

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IT IS PART OF THE OAKS, AS YOU SEE, AS THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT THEY HAD TO FOLLOW THE EXACT SAME THINGS, BECAUSE IT IS THE NINTH SECTION OF THE OAKS PUD.

UH, SO ALL OF THE UTILITY CONNECTIONS COME THROUGH THE EXISTING STREETS AS PER THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

UM, SO IT IS PART OF THE SPEEDY AS WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY, THIS PORTION IS PART OF THE OAKS PUD.

UM, SO THAT'S AS THIS ONE IS CURRENTLY APPROVED AS A CHURCH.

UM, SO THE SECTION NINE THAT I I'VE HEARD, SILVER OAKS HAS A NEW NAME.

THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE LATEST DEVELOPER.

IT'S NOT CHANGING THE PUD.

IT'S JUST CHANGING THE NAME OF A SET OF LOTS.

SO THE CONNECTION TO THE STORM SEWER IT'S PUBLIC STORM SEWER.

SO IT WAS DESIGNED AT THE BEGINNING TO HANDLE THAT AMOUNT OF FLOW THROUGH THOSE STORM SEWERS.

SO THAT WAS THE PROPER WAY OF DESIGNING THAT SECTION.

SO FOR THIS SECTION AS, UH, IT'S IT'S, UM, THE PROPER WAY OF DESIGNING THE STORM SEWER IS TO, INTO A NEW DETENTION BASIN.

IF THAT'S A, AN ENHANCED EXISTING ONE, THAT'S GREAT.

IF IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ONE, THAT'S GREAT AS WELL, AS LONG AS IT MEETS ALL OF THEM WHO WOULD NEED TO APPROVE, IF IT DID MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, WHO ALL WOULD I HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM IN THE END, THE CITY WOULD GIVE APPROVAL OF ALL THE CALCULATIONS, BUT TO EXPAND THE EXISTING DETENTION BASIN ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, THAT PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON IT.

SO, AND THIS MIGHT BE GETTING A LITTLE TOO DETAILED, BUT WHEN RUSS SENT ME THE, THE STORM SEWER DRAWINGS, HE SHOWED THAT AS PART OF THE PUBLIC STORM SEWER, AND MAYBE EXPANDING ISN'T THE RIGHT WORD, BUT TAPPING INTO LIKE, WE'D HAVE OUR SEPARATE BASIN, BUT THEN IT WOULD DRAIN TO THAT.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT I DON'T GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL? CAUSE WE, WE CAN'T REALLY SEE WHERE WE'RE EVEN SUPPOSED TO TAP IT TO IT'S IT'S PART OF WHAT I PROPOSED TO THEM.

IT WAS, WOULD BE CHEAPER FOR ME TO INTEGRATE FULLY WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND ROLL IT BACK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR REASONS LIKE THIS, BECAUSE, UM, WE'D HAVE TO GO MUCH FARTHER, LIKE IN A REALLY ODD DIRECTION TO ACTUALLY TAP THE STORM SEWER.

WHEREAS IF WE JUST WENT WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN, WHICH HAD A BIGGER BASIN THAT HAD A CALCULATION TO SUPPORT THAT 14 ACRES THAT I NOW OWN, THAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR US.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE OUR PROPOSAL WAS WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF ROLLING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL OAKS PLAN, INCLUDING THAT WE'D BE NOT, NOT EVEN CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, A CHANGE TO THE PUD, EVEN THOUGH THAT THIS KIND OF HALF-BAKED CHURCHES THERE NOW, WHAT WHAT'S REALLY, THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, IF I'M MAKING SENSE HERE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE I CAN ASK IT AND THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THE NEIGHBORS WILL OPPOSE IT.

SO WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR NOT MR. FOR COUNCIL.

UM, SO THERE THERE'S AN EXISTING AMOUNT OF WATER THAT GOES TO THAT DETENTION BASIN THAT STILL WILL BE ALLOWED TO GO TO THAT DETENTION BASIN, WHATEVER THAT ORIGINAL AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WAS APPROVED TO GO THERE.

PART OF THAT COULD BE FROM THIS PROPERTY.

SO OVER LAND WATER CAN FLOW ONTO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO MODIFY THE EXISTING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

YOU WOULD NEED PERMISSION FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO CONNECT A PIPE ONTO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

YOU WOULD NEED PERMISSION FROM THAT PROPERTY.

ELDER.

I THINK I GOT IT.

SO IF THAT'S LIKE A SHEET FLOW OVER GRASS, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT MORE THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CALCULATED, WHICH WILL BE MORE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY COMING OFF POTENTIALLY.

SO THEY CAN GET A BIT OF WATER THAT'S GOING, UH, FROM THIS PROPERTY TO THAT BACK PROPERTY LINE.

AND WE CAN CALCULATE HOW MUCH THAT IS AND NOT ACCOUNT FOR THAT, BUT THE REMAINDER WE WOULD HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR IT SEPARATELY.

NOT ALLOWING MORE WATER THAT'S COMING OFF YOUR PROPERTY.

I GUESS THE LAST THING I WOULD ASK IS REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO AND VOTE ON, I HAD ASKED SCOTT TO READ THE DETAILS, WHAT WE APPLIED FOR, UM, JUST THE, THE DETAILS OF OUR APPLICATION AND HOW WE'VE APPLIED FOR, OR HOW WE HAVE REPLIED TO REQUESTS FROM NEIGHBORS TO DATE.

SORRY.

BUT THAT, THAT HELPS UNDERSTAND EXACTLY.

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I I'D LIKE HE STILL BE ABLE TO DO THIS REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU VOTE ON AND, YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENCY EFFORT.

AND, UH, THAT, THAT'S MY LAST REQUEST HERE.

AND I WOULD PREFER TO TAKE THE OPTION THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE MEAN ONE WEEK IS A BIG TURNAROUND FOR, UH, A CIVIL ENGINEER.

WHO'S GOT OTHER PROJECTS TO HAVE ME REPRODUCE A CAD FILE WITH A DIFFERENT LAYOUT.

IT'S NOT REALLY PRACTICAL.

EVEN IF THE MEETINGS TWO WEEKS OUT, THAT'S STILL KIND OF PUTS A STRESS ON US WHEN WE'VE SEEN THE THING THEY'RE ALL 85 FOOT LOT BEFORE, HOW DIFFERENT COULD I POSSIBLY MAKE IT AT THAT POINT? UM, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST IS, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PRODUCE THAT DRAWING SO QUICKLY.

I THINK IT, MR. KAYLOR, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE BEEN, UM, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND CERTAINLY HAVE OFFERED PLENTY OF, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO SPEAK.

I THINK WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE HEARD CONSISTENTLY FROM EVERYBODY IS AN 85 FOOT LOT AND 112,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO REZONE, I FEEL LIKE WE, THEN WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT WE NEED TO KNOW OF WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.

THAT IS WHAT'S IN ORDINANCE 1405 FROM 2003.

SO I THINK IF THIS ORDINANCE WAS THAT BEFORE US WAS AMENDED TO MATCH THOSE LOT WITH SIN OVERALL DIMENSION OF SQUARE FOOTAGE MATCHING THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE FROM 2003.

UM, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I, I PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I DON'T VOTE, BUT I COULD, I COULD SUPPORT THAT, UM, MOTION THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN MADE TO GET THIS, UM, MOVING IN AND IT WAS UNLESS MR. CAMPBELL WITHDRAWS THAT MOTION.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO WE WILL, WE WILL VOTE ON THIS UNLESS THAT'S BEEN, UNLESS YOU CHANGED THAT.

MR. WEBB, THANK YOU.

MA'AM JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SCOTT, JUMP IN.

IF I'M WRONG, WE'RE NOT ASKED TO APPROVE ANY DRAWINGS HERE TONIGHT OR IN THE FUTURE.

THERE WAS NO DRAWING AS A PART OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? WE'RE VOTING ON ORDINANCE THE, THE ORDINANCE, WHEN YOU HAVE A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN LIKE THIS, UM, YES, YOU ARE APPROVING LIKE NUMBER ONE, THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHALL BE THE PLANS STAMPED PROCEED BY THE CITY, UM, UNLESS SPECIFICALLY MODIFIED BELOW.

SO YES, THERE'S THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

EVERYTHING BELOW THAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS AND SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE APPROVED, THAT TRUMP, ANYTHING THAT'S ON THAT DRAWING.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE 17 ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE ORDINANCE.

THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP MIRRORS, WHEN I'M READING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, WE ARE DEALING WITH 17 ITEMS. THERE ARE ON A POSSIBLE AMENDMENT, UH, TO A SET OF DRAWINGS THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE WHERE I'M READING THE ORDINANCE.

THAT'S WE ARE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS THIS SET OF STANDARDS.

I HOPE YOU'VE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCES BEFORE US TONIGHT.

SO AS WE READ DOWN THROUGH THEM'S, THOSE AMONG AMENDMENTS BEING PROPOSED IS TO KNOCK THAT LAST ONE OFF THE BOX.

AND THAT IS TO TAKE IT TO 85 FOOT LOTS, WHICH WILL BE I'M ASSUMING, UH, I FORGET WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT IT'S DOWN THERE SOMEWHERE, SCOTT VERSUS MINIMUM LOT SIZE.

AND THAT'S I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT THE 85 FOOT LOTS WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO NUMBER 12, 12 TO CHANGE FROM 75 TO 85 FEET.

PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE WORKING ON THE DETAILS, THE DRAINAGE, THE THINGS LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, THE REASON FOR BRINGING THAT UP IS I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT, OR LOOKING AT AN ORDINANCE AND AN AMENDMENT AMENDMENT TO THAT ORDINANCE.

SO IT'S PART WHEN WE GET THIS RIGHT AT THIS POINT, BUT THE DETAILS, UH, AS YOU SPOKE OUT, SIR, THE DETAILS WILL BE COMING BACK BEFORE PLANNING, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THIS BODY DOES WITH REGARD TO DRAWINGS OR WHAT WE SAY

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MA'AM THIS IS THE BIRCH.

UM, TWO COMMENTS, NUMBER ONE, SCOTT, THE, UM, DETAILS, UH, TO HELP MR. KAYLOR UNDERSTAND WHAT'S REQUIRED AT THE RETENTION BASEMENT WILL HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT PRIOR TO HIM TAKING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND IF WE ARE TO APPROVE THE CHANGE TO THE, UM, ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THE 85 FOOT LOTS, UH, THAT NO LONGER REQUIRE OUR, DOES IT REQUIRE ANY KIND OF A WAIVER FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE, OR ARE WE GOOD TO GO ON? YEAH.

THE FIRE CODE STAYS THE SAME.

UM, IF THEY HAPPENED TO GET 31 LOTS, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE FIRE CODE OF A SECONDARY ENTRANCE.

I DON'T SEE HOW THEY CAN GET 31 LOTS WITH THAT REQUIREMENT.

SO IT'S MOST LIKELY WILL GO AWAY.

JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.

MR. CAMPBELL.

SCOTT IN STAIN, UH, IN CONCERT WITH THE OAKS DEVELOPMENT ORIGINALLY, IF THIS WAS VOTED ON TONIGHT, COULD YOU COMPARE WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS PROJECT, TO THE OAKS, AS A COUNCIL AND AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, THIS WILL MATCH, UH, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM POLICY AND PROCEDURE PROCEDURE.

HAVE WE DONE LESS THIS TIME, MORE OF THIS TIME? AND IF WE VOTE TONIGHT, IS IT SIMILAR TO HOW COUNCIL DEALT WITH THE OAKS IN 2003? YES, IT'S SIMILAR.

UM, BECAUSE IT FOLLOWED THE SAME PROCESS, HAVING PLANNING, COMMISSION, HAVING PUBLIC HEARINGS, HAVING DISCUSSION, HAVING MULTIPLE READINGS IN A VOTE, LIKE WHAT MAY OCCUR TONIGHT OCCURRED BACK IN 2003.

AND THEN THE DETAIL WAS DEALT WITH AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THAT IS CORRECT THEN YES.

AND THE 85 FOOT LOTS WOULD ALSO COMPARE TO THE OAKS.

AND IS THERE ANOTHER AMENDMENT OR SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE AMENDMENT TO GIVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SLOTS? UM, IT CAN BE.

AND MAYOR, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING THAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER BASED ON THE SECOND ENTRANCE THAT WOULD RESOLVE THAT PROBLEM TONIGHT BEFORE GOING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE AMENDMENT IN YOUR OPINION.

AND, UH, JERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? NO.

WHAT, WHAT I WAS A LITTLE FUZZY ON WAS THE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE.

IT WAS, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WAS IN LIEU OF A SECONDARY ENTRANCE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WASN'T QUITE SURE NOW THAT WE ARE INCREASING TO 85, UM, DO WE STILL NEED THE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE OR DO WE STILL NEED A SECONDARY ENTRANCE? I'M STILL A LITTLE FUZZY ON THAT ASPECT.

SO THAT, THAT ITEM NUMBER 17 THAT WAS PUT IN THERE TO A DRESS, A SECONDARY ENTRANCE.

SO THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THAT POINT.

HAD OCCURRED WITH THE OAKS BACK IN 2003, OR WOULD THIS BE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT? THAT BEING AROUND IN 2003, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, AS SCOTT SAID, THE STATUTE IS THIS, THERE ARE ORDINANCES THE SAME, SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME TYPE OF PROCESS, MEANING COUNCIL AND APPROVES THAT BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO, SO MARK WOULD, WOULD YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO QUALIFY NO MORE SO 85 FOOT, LOTS WITH NO MORE THAN 30 LOTS.

IS THAT, I MEAN, IS THAT, AND AM I HEARING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT IN THE AMENDMENT, THE BOULEVARD AS WELL? DOES ANY LANGUAGE THAT'S AN OPTION TO REMOVE NUMBER 17, RIGHT.

TO NO LONGER REQUIRE THE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE AND, AND JERRY, IF WE DO THIS TONIGHT AND IT GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IS THAT THE PROPER PROCESS, UH, MAYBE WOULD REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

BUT, UM, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLEAR ON WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS.

AS SCOTT SAID TO SECTION 12, WE'RE BEING SPECIFIC FROM 75 TO 85 AND WHATEVER ELSE WE HAVE, UM, THEN I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL KNOW WHAT THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS IN ORDER TO THEN DECIDE ON THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT.

AND IF THIS WAS, UH, VOTED ON AND APPROVED TONIGHT AND THEN SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IS THAT FOLLOWING PROPER PROCEDURES BASED ON CITY ORDINANCES AND LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN PASSED? YES.

AND DO YOU THINK IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT

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AND THEN IT MOVES ON TO THE NEXT STEP.

AND CAN I CONTINUE TO, OF COURSE, SCOTT, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE THAT WAS PROPOSED THEN TAKEN OUT.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? UH, YES.

ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY, THERE WAS A SMALL AREA THAT WAS GREEN SPACE THAT, UH, JUST HAD A SMALL LITTLE ACCESS POINT.

AND IT WAS AT THE REAR OF, UH, SEVERAL OF THOSE LOTS.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN PLANNING COMMISSION THAT IF EACH OF THOSE, UH, UH, RESIDENTS PUT UP, LET'S SAY A PRIVACY FENCE, IT'D BE HARD TO SEE BACK THERE.

AND IT BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE OF KIDS PLAYING BACK IN AN AREA THAT YOU COULDN'T SEE FROM THE STREETS.

SO THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT PLANNING COMMISSION TO REMOVE THAT GREEN SPACE FROM THAT PORTION IN THAT CENTER AREA AND HOW THEY ADDRESSED IT WAS JUST MAKE THOSE LOTS DEEPER SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN AREA THAT WAS SECLUDED THE FRONT, UH, NORTH EAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE THE GREEN SPACE WHERE THE DETENTION AREA WILL BE.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY PORTION ON THE CURRENT LAYOUT THAT WOULD HAVE, UH, UM, OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS MATCHES THE ORIGINAL 2003 PLAN OF, FOR THIS EXACT AREA.

THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT HAD GREEN SPACE ON THAT ONE AS WELL.

AND IF THIS, UH, AMENDMENT AND THAT ORDINANCE PASSES TONIGHT, IS THAT A REQUIREMENT AND SOMETHING THAT A PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE WHEN THEY DEAL WITH THE DETAILS, THE, WHAT THAT AREA IS PART OF IT WILL BE DETERMINED BY DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS TO SEE WHAT THAT IS.

BUT YES, THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE IS GREEN SPACE BECAUSE OF DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS.

SO W WHAT WILL PLANNING COMMISSION DEAL WITH THE FINAL DETAILS? THEY WILL GET THE SUCH AS FINAL DRAWING THAT SHOWS THE EXACT LOTS OF DIMENSIONS THAT MEETS ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS, THE DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS, THE STORM SEWER, SANITARY, SEWER WATER ON HOW THOSE ALL LAY OUT, HOW THAT ALL CONNECTS THE MOUNDING ACROSS THE FRONT, THAT LANDSCAPING LIGHTING, POSTAL BOXES, UH, THE STREETS, THE STREET DESIGN AND LAYOUT, THE WIDENING OF BELL FOUNTAIN AND, UM, ALL OF THOSE DETAILS.

AND THEN THE NEXT VIA FINAL PLANT, THE PLATTING OF EACH OF THOSE LOTS, UH, THAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT BEFORE BEING ABLE TO SELL IT.

IT WAS LOTS.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THROUGH THE PROCESS? YES, SIR.

AND FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE BERM AND THE VEGETATION AND TREES AND THE PLANTINGS, THAT WILL BE ON TOP OF THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE NOW THAT SPEAKS TO THAT MAINTENANCE OR CARE OF ANY OF THAT? UH, YES.

THAT IS, UM, INCLUDED IN THERE, AND IT DOES TALK ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, AND IT DOES TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE VIOLATION OF PROCESS THAT THE CITY CAN STEP IN AND ASSIST.

THAT'S A FORD SAID REPAIRS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CHANGE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW, SCOTT.

UM, JUST TO GO ONE STEP FURTHER WITH A COMMENT, IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO THIS WAY, NUMBER 11 IS WHERE YOU WOULD CHANGE THE NUMBER OF LAWNS, BECAUSE IT CURRENTLY SAID THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SHOP CONTAINED NO GREATER THAN 34.

UH, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO 30 NUMBER 11 IS WHERE YOU WOULD DO THAT.

SO 11 AND 12 ARE THE TWO AREAS BEING I'M AT 12 BEING LOCKED WITH AN 11 BEING THE NUMBER OF LOTS.

CORRECT.

AND POSSIBLY 17, BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BOULEVARD.

MR. CAMPBELL, CHIEF AND JERRY, UH, COULD YOU REPEAT, UH, WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE AMENDMENT WOULD READ? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO SECTION 11, WHICH CURRENTLY READS THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL CONTAIN NO GREATER THAN 34 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR DISCUSSION? YES.

MS. BAKER.

SO A VOTE YES.

WOULD BE FOR THE 85.

IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK FOR COUNCIL MEAN, I THINK YOU WOULD NEED TO CLARIFY THE, I IMAGINE THERE WAS SOME FALL OFF DETAILS, JUST CLARIFY.

SO I THINK THE CLARIFICATION WOULD NEED TO BE IN AN AMENDED MOTION THAT MR. CAMPBELL MADE ON WHAT SPECIFIC CHANGES ARE MADE TO ITEMS 11, 12, AND 17, IF

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AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD CHANGE WOULD BE TWO 30 SINGLE FAMILY LINES.

THE SECOND AMENDMENT WOULD BE SECTION 12 LOG REQUIREMENTS, WHICH CURRENTLY SETS FORTH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH AND THE FRONT SETBACK LINE SIDE SETBACK LINES.

AND WHAT WE WOULD BE CHANGING THERE IS THE SECTION THAT SAYS MINIMUM FRONTAGE AT THE SETBACK LINE IS 75 FEET.

WE WOULD BE CHANGING THAT TO 85 FEET.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS WE WOULD BE TAKING OUT SECTION 17.

THERE SHALL BE A BOULEVARD ENTRANCE OFF OF BELFONT ROAD.

AND THEN SINCE THE AMENDMENTS ALREADY BEEN MADE, CAN THAT BE CHANGED ALTERED HERE TONIGHT? YOU, YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT AS THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, IF YOU WISH TO DO SO.

AND THEN, UM, NANCY WAS THE SIDE THAT WE'D ASK HER TO ACCEPT THE CHANGES TO YOUR AMENDMENT.

SO, SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADJUST THE AMENDMENT TO RATE IS HOW, UH, MR. MCDONALD, JUST READ MRS. BURCH.

UH, AND YOU HAD SECOND OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

ARE YOU PREPARED TO SECOND THE AMENDED MOTION? YES.

MR. KELLY, SO BOULEVARD IS OUT.

IS THAT WHAT I HEARD THERE? YES.

I REMEMBER 17 WOULD BE THE REMOVAL OF THE BOULEVARD.

AND QUESTION FOR YOU, SCOTT, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY PLAN IN TERMS OF THE CHURCH AND THE RETENTION THERE AND HOW THAT WOULD TIE IN WITH ANY EXISTING, THE CHURCH NEVER GOT TO A DETAILED PHASE? SO THERE THERE'S NOTHING ON RECORD OF EXACT DESIGN, BUT WHAT, UM, I DID SEE IN THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THEY HAD DETENTION AREAS ALONG BELL FOUNTAIN AND FISHERMEN, NOT IN THIS CORNER.

SO IT WAS A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION, RIGHT? I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO GO, BUT, UM, MAYBE THAT'S, WHAT'S NOT, IT, IT NEVER GOT TO THE POINT OF A DESIGN, BUT, UM, THE END ROUTES WILL END UP IN THE SAME PLACE AS THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A LONG BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD.

THERE'S A ROADSIDE DITCH THERE, AND THERE IS A CULVERT THAT GOES ACROSS THE ROAD.

THAT'S WHERE THE WATER ENDS UP AND THAT'S WHERE IT WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO GO.

UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS, THIS WILL NOT COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AS THE CURRENT AMENDMENT IS STATED.

NOPE, NO.

UM, WAS ANYTHING PUT INTO THE AMENDMENT OF THE GREEN SPACE OR IT'S JUST, NO, THERE'S ONLY THREE ITEMS IN THE AMENDMENT 11, JUST MAKING SURE, UH, 12 AND 17.

UM, AND I I'D STILL ASK, OR AT LEAST BE TOLD WHETHER WE'LL DO IT OR NOT.

UM, AND, AND, UH, ENTRANCE OF TRANSPARENCY TO SUMMARIZE THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.

I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT.

I, I JUST ASK THAT'D BE SUMMARIZED AND THEN MAYBE RUN DOWN THE AMENDMENT ONE LAST TIME TO MAKE SURE IT'S PERFECTLY CLEAR.

UM, CAUSE IT WAS, YEAH, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

SO YOU'RE ASKING SCOTT TO SUMMARIZE THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.

I WILL LOOK INTO THEM AND THEN WHERE WE'RE AT NOW CLARIFYING THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS WITH THE THREE MINUTES.

IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH.

SUMMARIZE THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION, SUMMARIZE THE ORDINANCE WITH THE AMENDMENTS, UH, AND PREFERABLY SUMMARIZE THE, THE, UH, THE RESPONSES TO LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENTS BRIEFLY.

HE'S DONE THAT A FEW TIMES AT DIFFERENT MEETINGS.

SO THAT'S, I'M NOT SURE SUMMARIZE WHOSE WHOSE COMMENTS.

ALL THE MANY COMMENTS THAT CAME IN FROM THE NEIGHBORS, HE SUMMARIZED IT BEFORE IN RESPONSE, IN RESPECT TO WHAT I WAS PROPOSING, I'D LIKE HIM TO GET, TO GIVE THE SUMMARY OF THAT.

I THINK THE, THE, THE OVERALL PIECE TO THAT SUMMARY IS JUST, YES, THE ORIGINAL TO THE, TO THE, WHAT THE LOT STANDARDS ARE NOW THAT WOULD BE PROSEY AMENDMENT.

SO SCOTT, IF YOU CAN DO THAT, IF I CAN HELP YOU IN ANY WAY, LET ME KNOW.

I'LL, I'LL TRY THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS FOR A, UH, 34 LOT DEVELOPMENTS, THE LOTS RANGE FROM 75 FOOT WIDE

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TO 80 WIDE.

AND THEN THERE WAS STILL SOME 85 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

UH, THE, UM, THE DEPTHS ON THEM WERE ALL A MINIMUM OF 142 FEET, THE SETBACKS, 25 FOOT, FRONT YARDS, 40 FOOT REARS, 10 FOOT SIDE YARDS.

UM, THE PROPOSAL ASKED FOR ALL PUBLIC STREETS LIKE SEWERS, PUBLIC STORM SEWER SYSTEM.

THESE WILL ALL BE FOR SALE, LOTS RENTALS, UH, WITH THIS APPLICATION, THE BUILDING MATERIALS, UM, THAT, UH, MATCH THAT AS THE EXISTING, UM, DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS NEIGHBORS OF WHAT KIND OF BUILDING MATERIALS IT WOULD BE.

HOW WOULD THEY LOOK? THEY FOLLOW THE EXACT SAME SPECIFICATIONS.

UM, ANOTHER PART OF THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS DRAINAGE, THIS DEVELOPMENT COLLECTS ALL OF THE, THE, THE WATER INTO STORM SEWERS, UM, THAT CURRENTLY GO AND THEN WOULD GO AND BE DETAINED.

THEY WILL FOLLOW ALL OF OUR STANDARDS FOR DRAINAGE, NOT ALLOWING MORE WATER LEAVING THE SITE THEN CURRENTLY DOES.

UM, THE, UH, THIS DOES INCLUDE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD AND FITCHBURG ROAD WITH A LITTLE BIT OF WHITING, CURBING AND SIDEWALKS.

THE, UM, THERE'S ALSO A MOUNDING ALONG BELL FOUNTAIN IN FISHBURG THAT MATCHED THAT OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT, UH, UM, THAT IS, UH, ALSO INCLUDED IN SOME OF THAT GREEN SPACE AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE.

IT DOES CALL OUT, UM, A PORTION ABOUT HOW THAT, UH, IF IT IS NOT MAINTAINED THAT THE CITY CAN'T, UH, GO IN AND ASSESS THE PROPERTY FOR, UH, MAKING ANY OF THOSE KINDS, UH, UM, CORRECTIONS, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, UM, THE SIZE OF THOSE BUILDINGS, SCOTT, ONE SECOND, SORRY, GO BACK TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BERM.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TYPICALLY DONE OR HAVE IN PLACE, UH, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, OR IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF INSURANCE FOR THE NEIGHBORS? UM, THAT THIS IS THE SAME LANGUAGE AS THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE FOR THE OAKS.

THAT'S THE MOUNTAINS THAT OUT ARE OUT FRONT, THAT SAME, UM, LEVEL OF, UH, ENFORCEMENT IS AVAILABLE THERE TOO.

SO, SO WE'VE EVEN MATCHED THIS TO THE ORIGINAL OAKS.

UH, THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION HAD A MOUNTING AT THE NORTH AND WEST SIDES OF THIS PROPERTY.

THIS DOES NOT HAVE THAT.

THIS HAS BEEN REMOVED BIT BECAUSE THESE LOTS MATCH THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO, TO THAT.

BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING THIS DEVELOPER TO DO ANY MORE TO THE BERM IN REGARD TO MAINTAINING IT THAN WE ARE THE ORIGINAL OWNER.

THE HOUSE SIZES ARE ALL THE SAME, SO THAT, UH, UM, WHETHER THEY ARE YOUR RANCH, MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 1600 SQUARE FOOT, OR THE TWO STORY MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OF 2000 SQUARE FOOT.

SO, UM, THAT IS THE, THE PLAN IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.

THE MODIFICATIONS HERE TONIGHT ARE TO A, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL CONTAIN NO GREATER THAN 30 SINGLE FAMILY.

LOTS THAT THE MINIMUM FRONTBENCH AT SETBACK LINE IS 85 FEET.

AND THAT, UH, NUMBER 17, THE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE OFF BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD HAS BEEN REMOVED.

MR. CAMPBELL AND SCOTT, ONCE THE CALCULATIONS ARE DONE AND ONLY 29 LOTS WOULD FIT, THAT WOULD BE IT.

THAT IS 30 IS THE MAXIMUM AFTER MEETING THAT CRITERIA THAT WE'VE PUT IN THE AMENDMENT.

FROM, FROM THE RESIDENTS, WHO'VE SPOKE OUT ABOUT THIS.

ANY OF THESE CRITERIA ARE MINIMUMS. SO IF THEY COULD ONLY FIT 27 BECAUSE OF THE 20 OF THE 85 FOOT, THEN THAT IS THE, UH, THE, THE MOST STRICT OF THE NUMBERS IS WHAT FOLLOWS.

SO HOW DOES THIS DIFFER FROM THE OAKS DEVELOPMENT BACK IN 2003, IN YOUR OPINION, ALL OF THE SPECIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME.

THE DIFFERENCE IS IT DOES NOT HAVE A CONNECTION ON THE INTERIOR.

THE DIFFERENCE, AND THAT CONNECTION IS BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE MODIFICATION THAT WAS DONE AT, AND THAT SECTION NINE HAS NOW THAT THERE IS NO THANK YOU, SCOTT, APPRECIATE THAT SUMMARY.

AND I WOULD JUST FOLLOW UP BY SAYING WHAT I'VE HEARD

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UH, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY A COUPLE OF THINGS AND IT WAS ALL ABOUT IT WAS DENSITY.

SO I THINK THE DENSITY ISSUE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BASED ON, UM, THE AMENDED ORDINANCE IN THE LOT WITH, SO I THINK THAT IS, UH, THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

AND, AND THEN THE SAFETY FIRE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, WAS CERTAINLY A, UH, A BIG DEAL AT THE LAST MEETING.

AND NOW THAT THE REQUIREMENT IS NO MORE THAN 30 LOTS, I THINK THE FIRE SAFETY ISSUE FOR A SECONDARY, UH, ENTRANCE HAS, HAS ALSO BEEN ADDRESSED.

SO I THINK IT, MR. KAYLA, WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IS, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT THESE AMENDMENTS ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD AT THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THE RESIDENTS WHO WHO'VE SPOKEN MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS WE'VE HAD, I THINK, UH, THESE AMENDMENTS ADDRESS, ADDRESS THAT TO KIND OF WRAP THIS UP WITH WHAT MR. READ AS THE SUMMARY OF THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, OPPOSED TO WHAT THE AMENDED ORDINANCE WOULD BE.

SO THAT SAID, THERE'S AN MS. BAKER.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, HEBREW HEIGHTS IS NOT GOING TO SUBSIDIZE BUYING THE CORRECT.

TWO MORE.

UH, THE LAWYER LANGUAGE, NOT, NOT THE FACT THAT IT WAS ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT WE ADDED SOME MORE STRINGENT LANGUAGE IN A PREVIOUS APPLICATION ABOUT THE MOUND, NOT IN THERE CURRENTLY.

I'M NOT SURE, SURE.

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE MOUNT IS LOCATED, UH, IS REQUIRED ON THE BELL FOUNTAIN IN FITCHBURG.

UM, AND IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE AS THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.

THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PORTIONS TO THAT.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WAS A INITIAL TIMEFRAME.

I GUESS THE LAST THING THAT I'M, I'M FINE WITH EVERYTHING.

I UNDERSTAND IT.

UM, DOES THE COMMENT, I WISH WE WOULD FOLLOW THE COVID MASK REQUIREMENTS CAUSE MY FAMILY TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND I'M HUFFING AND PUFFING HERE.

AND MY WIFE FEELS LIKE SHE CAN'T COME BECAUSE WE, I KNOW THAT THE MASK MANDATE ISN'T COMPLETELY FOLLOWED.

SO I, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND FOR SAFETY THAT EVERYONE FOLLOW THAT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN THE FUTURE.

I'D ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THERE THERE'D BE NO MORE APPEALS OF THAT, THAT 30, 30, UH, UNITS FOR ONE ENTRANCE.

CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S HAPPENED A LOT RECENTLY AND WE'VE HEARD THAT IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT THAT IS NOT DONE ANYMORE ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.

UM, AND I WOULD ASK ON MY WIFE'S BEHALF, SHE'S NOT ABLE TO COMMENT HERE.

I, I JOKED ABOUT THE LAST MEETING THAT SHE WOULD FIND THE COMMENT, THE, THE GENTLEMAN'S USE THE, UH, A KIND OF DEROGATORY TERM TOWARDS ASIANS.

SHE THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY THAT HE SAID IT, BUT SHE REALLY WISHED THAT SOME OF YOU WOULD HAVE CORRECTED IT.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS OBVIOUS.

HE DIDN'T KNOW, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM KINDA KNEW WITH JANUARY REALTY COMING UP TO APPLICATION, WE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED THAT.

BUT YEAH, THE COVID STUFF LIKE I FEEL I HAVE TO WEAR THIS MASK AND I'VE GOT AN N 9,500 HERE AND I'M KIND OF STRUGGLING FOR BREATH BECAUSE IT WAS AIRBORNE AND EVERYBODY'S IS EXPECTORATING HER AEROSOL.

I JUST GOT OUT OF GENERAL ANESTHESIA A FEW DAYS AGO FOR SURGERY.

IT AFFECTS THE LUNGS RETENTION.

AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF AFFECTED MY ABILITY TO BE HERE FOR MY APPLICATIONS.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.

AND THERE'S BEEN A MOTION ON THE SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL? YEAH.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SCOTT.

I WONDER THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO ANSWER, UH, WHEN WE VOTE ON, ON, UH, CHANGE IS, UM, UH, WHETHER IT COULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED WITHIN THE PERIOD OF TIME SPECIFIED IN THE SCHEDULE OF DEVELOPMENT SUBMITTED BY THE DEVELOPER.

I DON'T REMEMBER HEARING WHAT HIS SCHEDULE FOR COMPLETION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, HOW THAT WAS DISCUSSED, BUT HE DID DISCUSS THAT.

UM, IT WOULD BE MULTIPLE PHASES THAT, UH, WASN'T LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO THE WHOLE THING AT ONCE.

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ALL RIGHT.

SEE, NO OTHER COMES BACK.

NEXT UP IS OUR NUMBER 12 AND OUR NEW BUSINESS FOR CITY COUNCIL.

THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE AMENDED ORDINANCE BEFORE US.

UH, I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR.

EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS.

WE'VE SUMMARIZED.

UM, MR. ROGERS, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? MS. BAKER? YES.

AND THE MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

THAT'S ALL WE NEED YOU TO WRAP UP.

WE NEED NOW THE MOTION TO APPROVE FOR THE MOTION TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AFTER AMENDMENT TRATO SO MOVED TO A SECOND, MR. WEBB, ALL WE'LL SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTION, MR. ROGERS, MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

[ A Motion To Appoint Sydney Smith To The Parks And Recreation Board To A Term Expiring March 31, 2024.]

MR. ROGERS, ITEM 12, EIGHT, ITEM 12, A MOTION TO APPOINT SIDNEY SMITH TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO A TERM EXPIRING MARCH 31ST, 2024.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, MR. ROGERS, THAT THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL AND, UH, THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND CHECKS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

UP AS HAVING 12 B ITEM 12 B A MOTION TO REAPPOINT, CHERYL BRANDENBURG, SHANNON TEAGUE, AND GWENDOLYN GWENDOLYN OP SHAWL TO THE ARTS, A BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION TO A TERM EXPIRING JUNE 30TH OF 2024.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION WAS FOR ADOPTION.

IS THERE A MOTION MR. CAMPBELL TO ADOPT MS. BAKER? YOU HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS? MRS. BURJ? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO.

[ A Motion To Reappoint Cheryl Brandenburg, Shannon Teague, And Gwendolyn Upshaw To The Arts And Beautification Commission To A Term Expiring June 30, 2024.]

TONY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, THESE ARE ALL REAPPOINTMENTS.

UH, ALL THREE OF THESE, UH, INDIVIDUALS WERE APPOINTED INITIALLY TO UNEXPIRED TERMS ON THE ARTS OF UNIFICATION COMMISSION.

UH, SO THIS IS A REAPPOINTMENT TO FULL TERMS FOR EACH OF THEM.

AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION MOTION.

MR. WEBB.

SO MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND, MS. BAKER? ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS? MR. OTTO? YES.

MR. CAMPBELL, MRS. BERG? YES.

12, SEED ITEM 12, SEE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT JIM ELLIS, JONATHAN FANON, JOSEPH HENDRIX, BRIAN KITCHEN, GLENN OTTO, JERRY WAMSLEY, AND DON WEBB TO THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION TO A TERM EXPIRING OCTOBER 31ST, 2021 IS A, UH, UNLESS ANYBODY WANTS TO BOW OUT.

ZERO NEXT UP AS ITEM

[ A Motion To Reappoint Jim Ellis, Jonathan Fannin, Joseph Hendrix, Brian Kitchen, Glenn Otto, Jerry Wamsley, And Don Webb To The Ordinance Review Commission To A Term Expiring October 31, 2021.]

THAT WAS THE WORD RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE MR. MR. HILL? THERE'S BEEN A MOTION.

SECOND MOTION.

AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS? MR. LYONS? YES.

MS. BAKER, MR. CAMPBELL.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO ITEM 12

[ An Ordinance Approving The Editing And Inclusion Of Certain Ordinances And/Or Resolutions As Parts Of The Various Component Codes Of The City Code Of Huber Heights, Ohio; Providing For The Adoption And Publication Of New Matter In The Updated And Revised City Code As Supplement 7; And Repealing Ordinances And Resolutions In Conflict Therewith. (first reading)]

D ITEM 12, D AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN EDITING, APPROVING THE EDITING AND INCLUSION OF CERTAIN ORDINANCES

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AND OR RESOLUTIONS AS PARTS OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENT CODES OF THE CITY CODE OF RIGHTS, OHIO PROVIDING FOR THE ADOPTION AND PUBLICATION OF NEW MATTER AND THE UPDATED AND REVISED CITY CODE AND SUPPLEMENT SEVEN AND REPEALING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT THERE WITH, AT THE FIRST READING.

AND, UH, YES.

MR. ROGERS, ANY OF THE COMMENTS.

AND THEN, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS PASSING TO A SECOND READING.

THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT SEVEN TO THE CITY CODE, WHICH INCORPORATES LEGISLATION PASSED BY COUNCIL, UH, FROM MARCH, I'M SORRY, JANUARY 1ST, 2021 TO MARCH 31ST, 2021.

UM, THIS CAN GO TO A SECOND READING.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO A SECOND READING? OKAY.

ITEM 12 E

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into An Agreement To Provide Insurance Coverage For General Liability, Property, Boiler And Machinery, Inland Marine, Automobile, Crime, Law Enforcement Liability, Public Officials Liability, And Other Necessary Insurance Coverage For The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio, Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements, And Covering The Costs Of Services Ordered By The City. (first reading)]

MR. ROGERS, ITEM 12, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR GENERAL LIABILITY, PROPERTY, PROPERTY, BOILER, AND MACHINERY, INLAND MARINE, AUTOMOBILE CRIME, LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY, PUBLIC OFFICIALS, LIABILITY, AND OTHER NECESSARY INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AND COVERING THE COST OF SERVICES ORDERED BY THE CITY.

AT THE FIRST READING, MR. .

THIS IS OUR ANNUAL LIABILITY INSURANCE AS A, NOT TO EXCEED $287.

AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

YOUR MOTION, MR. SHAWL MOTION TO ADOPT A SECOND.

MR. CAMPBELL, ONE SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND HAND DISCUSSION ON THE LIABILITY INSURANCE.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT IS ITEM 12

[ A Resolution Adopting An Amendment To The Ohio Public Employees 457 Deferred Compensation Plan For Participation By Eligible Employees Of The City Of Huber Heights And Authorizing The City Manager To Execute Documents Necessary To Implement Such Plan. (first reading)]

F ITEM 12 F A RESOLUTION ADOPTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE OHIO PUBLIC EMPLOYEES, FOUR 57 DEFERRED COMPENSATION PLAN FOR PARTICIPATION BY ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT SUCH PLAN AT THE FIRST READING, MR. MCCALSKY YES.

TO ADD MORE OPTIONS TO, UH, THE, UH, RETIREMENT.

THIS WOULD ADD THE POST, UH, PAYROLL TAX CONTRIBUTION FOR A RAMEN.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION WAS TO ADOPT THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION, MR. WEBB? SLOW-MO YOUR SECOND IS BAKER.

ITEM 12 G OR RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A FARM LEASE AGREEMENT WITH BENCH ROCK FARM FOR THE USE OF 35 ACRES OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT EIGHT THREE ZERO THREE EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD AT THE FIRST READING.

MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE FOUR 57 PLAN? MR. ROGERS, MR. WEB? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO ITEM 12, G

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Farm Lease Agreement With Benchrock Farm For The Use Of 35 Acres Of City-Owned Property Located At 8303 Executive Boulevard. (first reading)]

AND MR. MCCALSKY ANY UPDATES ON, SO SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING SOME OF THESE CHEMICALS, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OF THAT STUFF? UH, YES.

UH, FARMER THIS YEAR, SOYBEANS CORN.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAT'S FOR THE INITIAL PLANTING.

THERE IS NO FERTILIZATION, UM, AFTER THAT.

SO SOME OF THAT ODOR IS NOT THERE.

THE, THEY DO DO A PESTICIDE, WE TREATMENT THAT IS BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE OUT AT THE SITES OF WHAT TYPES OF WEEDS ARE GROWING.

UM, IT IS, DOES GET LOOKED AT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND THEY MAKE THE, UH, ALL OF THE RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T PUT OUT THERE.

SO THEY FOLLOW ALONG WITH THOSE GUIDELINES, NOTHING THE NEIGHBORS SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

NO, THERE MAY BE AT THE APPLICATION.

THERE MAY BE A SLIGHT ODOR THAT DISSIPATES WITHIN THE HOUR.

AND THEN ALSO WHEN THEY ARE OUT THERE, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE DUST DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF YEAR, WHETHER IT'S REALLY GOOD.

YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

NOW IT WORK SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT? IS THERE A SECOND, MR. CAMPBELL? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE, ON THE LAND LEASE MR. ROGERS, MR. SHAW.

MR. WEBB MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 13 CITY

[13. City Official Reports and Comments]

OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS.

SO I'M GONNA HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE CITY, MR. ODDO.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SPEAK TO, UH, THIS PAST SATURDAY,

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UH, THE, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, AND SPECIFICALLY, UH, BLAKE HERSTEIN, WHO KIND OF SPEARHEADED THE PROJECT DID A PARK CLEANUP.

UM, WE GOT OUT TO THREE DIFFERENT, FOUR DIFFERENT PARK AREAS AND, UH, GOT SOME CLEANUP GOING WITH ABOUT 25 FOLKS.

AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S EFFORTS THERE.

WE ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD TIME DOING THAT.

SO, UM, THANK YOU.

THANKS TO THE PARKS AND REC BOARD FOR THAT.

THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO ANOTHER ONE, UM, IN THE SUMMERTIME AS WELL.

SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO, UH, DO ANOTHER CITY WIDE PARK CLEANUP.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT.

UH, AND THEN SECOND, UH, THE WHITE WCA HAS HELD THEIR GRAND OPENING ON SATURDAY FOR THEIR NEW LOCATION, NOT THE OLD, UH, MONTGOMERY COUNTY DEVELOPMENTAL CENTER.

UH, NOW SHANNON ISOM, WHO'S A DIRECTOR AND HER FOLKS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE REALLY PUT OUT A VISION OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AT THAT PLACE AND HOW THEY ARE REALLY GOING TO BE VERY COMMUNITY ORIENTED.

AND I SO APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY OPENED UP, UH, WORKING WITH OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND KIND OF HAVE SET UP ONE SMALL.

UM, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CALL IT LIKE A, UH, UH, A STARTUP BUSINESS KIND OF THING, UH, INCUBATOR TYPE OF SETUP FOR A BUSINESS AND AMONGST MANY OTHER THINGS.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE YWC SHANNON ISOM AND ALL THOSE GOOD FOLKS OUT THERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

SO THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS OR APOLOGIZE COMMENTS FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. SHELTON, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, COULDN'T AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN AUTO'S COMMENTS, UH, MORE, UH, WHY WCA IS, UH, IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE IN A COMMUNITY BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH OVER THE PAST YEAR PLUS, UH, I'VE, UH, BEEN ON THEIR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD, UH, AS WELL AS VOLUNTEERING AND REALLY GETTING TO KNOW THOSE FOLKS.

SO I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE THEM, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, ABLE TO SEE THAT, UH, PROPERTY REUTILIZE IN A, UH, IN AN EFFICIENT WAY, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, UM, AT THE, UH, LAST MEETING, UM, I HAD REQUESTED A, AN OVERALL NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF OUR, UM, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, HOW WE CAN REALLY GET THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AND IS THE CITY REALLY BEHIND AND, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT THING IS ABLE TO BE UP AND OPERATIONAL, THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR FULL BENEFIT FROM IT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SEE THAT ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION AGENDA, UM, FOR, UH, FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.

UM, ADDITIONALLY AT THE RECENT MEETING, I ASKED, UH, THE POSSIBILITIES.

UM, I KNOW IT WAS THIS PAST WEEK FOR EARTH DAY ON ADDITIONAL DAYS REGARDING THE, UM, THE YARD WASTE SITE.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, UH, ADDRESS AS WELL AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, ANY OTHER COMMENTS THIS EVENING, MR. REP? YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO TALK ABOUT DRIVING AROUND HUBER HEIGHTS.

UM, UH, THROW A LITTLE BOUQUET AT OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, LET HIM KNOW THAT, UH, FIVE GUYS LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ABOUT READY TO POP, OPEN THE DOORS ON DRIVE BY MIRIAM MEADOWS AND THE WALL.

SO CALM DOWN, I DROVE BY CHICK-FILET ON MY WAY HERE AND THE WALLS ARE GOING UP.

UM, JUST GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING HERE FOR HEIGHTS.

UH, GOOD JOB TO YOU ON STAFF SCOTT, THINGS ARE WORKING.