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          THE TOPIC HAS 
          [ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road April 1, 2021 7:00 P.M.]
ALREADY MENTIONED IS GOING TO BE RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. 
          THE PROPOSED STATE FOR THIS FORUM WILL BE HELD WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 9TH, 2021 FROM 6:30 PM UNTIL 8:30 PM. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS WAS BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY, UM, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THAT TIME. 
          AND WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, DR. 
          MICHAEL DUWAN AND DR. 
          GOING TO BE, AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO USE WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM OR THIS FORM. 
          SO MADAM CHAIR ON THE FACULTY COMMITTEE, I LIKED WRITING THEN THE COMMISSION PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE THESE TWO FORUMS ON THOSE DATES. 
          AND TIMES THAT I JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ARE THESE ARE THESE HYBRID EVENTS WHERE THEY COMPLETELY IN PERSON, THEY CAN BE, THEY CAN BE HYBRID. 
          AND I DID MENTION FINALLY, LIKE THEY MENTIONED BEFORE IN A PRIOR COMMISSION MEETING THAT WE HAVE A HYBRID FORMAT AND DO FACEBOOK LIVE AS A QUESTION SO THAT THERE WILL BE GREATER PARTICIPATION. 
          SO YOU CAN DEFINITELY WORK ON THE LOGISTICS FOR THAT. 
          I KNOW YOU SAID THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE INVOLVED. 
          THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WITH CITY. 
          SO IS THAT CORRECT? THE FIRST ONE WOULD JUST BE A DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS OF PAPER HEIGHTS, THE CONDITION AND FORMS IN DR. 
          CARTER, DR. 
          BURROW WILL FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION TO MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE TO ENGAGE PARTICIPATION IN THAT DISCUSSION. 
          ANY QUESTIONS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          WE JUST HAVE ONE MORE JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          COOL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE REFORM COMMITTEE LAST MEETING ON 22 MARCH, AND WE DIDN'T FOLLOW UP ON THAT, BUT THE MEETING WITH, UH, THE CHIEF, UH, T PLAYING THERE AND THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH HE HAD YESTERDAY, SO IN OUR REGULAR MEETINGS THAT WE HAD ON THE 22 MARCH, UM, OUR FOCUS WAS LARGELY ON THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAD. 
          WE DECIDED TO TABLE WELL FROM THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING. 
          SO WE WANT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE, UH, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH SURROUNDED LIKE BY, UH, BY THE CAMERA USAGE AND THE MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE. 
          AND SO, SO AS A RESULT, LET US TO, TO SAY WE HAD MORE QUESTIONS. 
          SO LET'S, LET'S HAVE THIS MEETING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE POLICE CHIEF. 
          AND SO WE WANT TO ASSESS ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH WE SHOULD'VE DID PROBABLY INITIALLY BEFORE WE, YES, YOU BOUGHT THOSE MISSIONS. 
          SO WE, SO, AND WE TOLD THE, UH, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE PHOTOGRAPH, UH, RENOVATION FOR, WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND GET HIS FEEDBACK FOR YOU FOR, AND SO, UH, SO DURING THAT DISCUSSION, SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS SURROUNDING THE, UH, THE COMPLAINT PROCESS AND, AND, AND THE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY HAVING INCREASED TRANSPARENCY IN THAT PROCESS, BY FOR EXAMPLE, HAVING, UH, UH, THEN PROVIDE, UH, PERIODIC STATUS UPDATES, INCLUDING FINDINGS DURING AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION. 
          UM, BUT, UH, WELL SHE DID POINT OUT, UH, I GUESS WOULD BE THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT DOES NOT EAT ANY SHOW THAT SORT OF A SECTION IN THERE THAT BASICALLY SAID DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC, ANY, UH, ONGOING INVESTIGATION DETAILS. 
          UM, WHAT HE DID SAY WAS, I GUESS, FOR THE INVESTIGATION ACTIVITY LAST, UH, 30 DAYS AND UPON COMPLETION, UH, UPON COMPLETION OF THAT, THEY, THEY RELEASED THE, UM, THE PAPERWORK, IF YOU WILL, AND WE CAN GO IN AND MAKE IT PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC REQUEST FOR THE REPORT. 
          UM, 
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I DID SAY IN SOME CASES, I GUESS, IN INVESTIGATION, SO THERE COULD BE A, UM, AGREED AGREEMENT SAYING THAT HE FILED, WHICH COULD THEN OBVIOUSLY EXTEND THE INVESTIGATION AND IT COULD GO TO ARBITRATION. 
          SO IT COULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT, BUT WE BEGIN AT THE END OF THE INVESTIGATION, WE COULD OBVIOUSLY REQUEST A COPY OF THE REPORT. 
          UH, SO WE DID ASK HIM THE CHIEF, UM, HOW DOES HE SEE C HOW DOES HE VIEW THE COMMISSION'S ROLE IN THIS WHOLE COMPLAINT PROCESS? AND SO, UH, AND HE SHARED WITH US, SEE, HE SAW US AS BEING, ESPECIALLY AS A LIAISON BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE PERSON THAT'S FILING A COMPLAINT. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT PERSON MAY NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO THEY SHOULD HAVE PLAYING WITH US. 
          AND WE WOULD THEN OBVIOUSLY BE ADVOCATES AND, AND, AND REACH OUT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE KEEP SAYING WHAT Y'ALL TOLD US, YOU KNOW, TO ME DIRECTLY OR WHOMEVER. 
          I MEAN, I'M TRIED REACH OUT TO HIM DIRECTLY. 
          AND WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE COMPLAINT OR WITH SOMEONE ELSE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD RUN BACK TO OUR INITIAL CONDITION, THAT INVESTIGATION. 
          UM, SO WHICH WAS GOOD. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. 
          I THINK THE ONLY THING WOULD JUST BE WHAT WE POINTED OUT AGAIN, THE, THE, THE CITY MANAGER, SARAH WAS 70. 
          SHE DIDN'T MAKE SURE THAT THESE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMISSION COMPLAINT PROCESS THAT'S CLEARLY, UM, WRITTEN DOWN AND DOCUMENTED SO THAT WE HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING AS TO HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO HANDLE THESE, UM, THESE COMPLAINTS WHEN THEY COME IN. 
          UM, NEXT WEEK, THEN WE GOT TO, SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I DID BRING FORWARD AT THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT A DRUG AND ALCOHOL TEST BE ADMINISTERED TO, UH, TO AN OFFICER THAT STARTS HIS WEAPON. 
          AND SO, UH, SO IN TALKING WITH THE CHIEF, HE ACTUALLY POINTED OUT IN THERE, UH, CA UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THAT POLICY IT'S ALREADY THERE. 
          IT SAYS, BASICALLY SAYS THAT THEY MAY ADMINISTER A DRUG OR ALCOHOL TEST IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT. 
          SO IT'S COVERED, SO WE'LL NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO, UH, AND THEN THAT'S, WE GOT INTO A DISCUSSION ON THE USE OF, UH, THE, THE BODY CAMERAS, RIGHT. 
          WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE READ THE LANGUAGE, IT SAID, UH, THE OFFICER MAY TURN ON THE CAMERAS INSTEAD OF SHOUT. 
          YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING MORE FOR HE SHOUT TURN ON THE CAMERA RIGHT NOW TO ME, YOU KNOW? BUT, UH, SO WHEN HE EXPLAINED TO US IN TERMS OF HOW THE CAMERA'S SYSTEM WORKS IS THE CAMERA'S ACTUALLY ALWAYS ON, AT LEAST IN THE VIDEO PORTION IS ALWAYS ON, AND THE OFFICERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECORD AN EVENT BY TURNING ON THE VOICE PORTION OF THE CAMERA. 
          RIGHT? AND SO THE WAY IT WORKS TOO, IS WHENEVER THE SIRENS COME ON, I GUESS THEN THEY STOP THE SIRENS ON THE CAMERA SYSTEM, WORKS IN CONCERT WITH THE, WITH THE BODY CAMERA, UH, UH, BODY CAMERAS. 
          AND SO THE VOICE RECORDING AUTOMATICALLY COMES ON DURING THAT TIME. 
          SO THE OFFICER HAS TO, IF HE TURNS IT OFF, HE ACTUALLY HAS TO PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY IT TURNS OFF THE CAMERA. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD THERE. 
          I CAN GET AN EXPLANATION ON HOW THAT WORKS. 
          CAMERAS ARE ROLLING. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT ANY INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE IT'S BEEN REPORTED VIA THE BODY CAMERA, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          THAT IT CAN, IT CAN OBVIOUSLY DURING THE NON CASUAL INTERACTIONS, RIGHT. 
          THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY TURN THEM OFF. 
          LIKE I HAVE ONE, YOU DON'T WANT TO ALWAYS HAVE THEM ON, BUT AGAIN, THE WAY IT WORKS AGAIN, WHEN THEY SAY THEY PULL SOMEONE OVER FOR IT, RIGHT. 
          IT CAMERA, THE HILL COMES ON IN THE CAR. 
          THE, ALSO A RECORDING WHEN IT COMES ON IN THE CAR CAMERAS, THE BODY CAMERAS ALSO TURN ON. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE THEN, UH, MOVE ON TO OUR CONVERSATION ON MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE, RIGHT? SO IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION WE WERE CONSIDERING, RIGHT. 
          WHICH, WHICH TIED TO ENDED UP POINTING OUT LAST TIME WAS THAT THE CITY OF KETTERING INSTITUTED A POLICY WHERE, UM, THEY HAVE A HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL, MENTAL, SOCIAL WORKERS THAT ARE COMPETENT ACCOMPANY THAT DURING A CERTAIN HEALTHCARE, I HELPED HER HEALTHCARE, BUT CERTAIN MENTAL HEALTH, UH, CRISIS INCIDENCES, IF YOU WILL. 
          SO, UM, AND SO WHAT HE DID POINT OUT THAT THE POLICE CHIEF POINTED OUT THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE 14 OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE RECEIVED SOME SPECIAL, CRITICAL INCIDENT RESPONSE TRAINING. 
          AND SO, UM, TO HELP THEM, I GUESS, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY GO OUT AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH, UM, 
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MENTAL HEALTH, UH, CALLS. 
          AND SO WE ALSO TOOK AN ACTION TO SHARE WITH US THE POLICY THAT THEY HAVE, HOW THEY HANDLE THE MENTAL HEALTH SITUATION. 
          SO PICKING IT, AS SOON AS THIS MORNING, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. 
          AND SO WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THAT BY TO FEEDBACK ON THAT. 
          YEP. 
          WE ASK THEM ON THEIR, UM, LIKE THEY HAVE MENTAL HEALTH CARE WORKERS, LICENSED WORKERS AND SOCIAL WORKERS. 
          I HAVE TO REMAIN CONSTANT PRESERVATION. 
          I DON'T, I KNOW THAT THEY GET TRAINING, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT HELD THEM ACCOUNTABLE THAT THEY SEE CONSTANT TRAINING THAT THINGS CHANGE CONSTANTLY. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THOSE PROFESSIONALS RECEIVE THEIR TRAININGS ON A SEMI-ANNUAL OR ANNUAL BASIS. 
          IS IT, CAN YOU ASK YOU ABOUT WHEN YOU MEET WITH THEM NEXT ON, WHAT IS THE TRAINING PROCESS, ONGOING TRAINING THE PROCESS FOR THOSE OFFICERS WHO THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED IT AS A CRISIS? NO. 
          THE OTHER QUESTION, YEAH. 
          WHAT WE DID SEE IN THEIR INITIAL SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTATION THAT WE ASKED FOR LIKE THE POLICIES AND GENERAL ORDERS, IT UNDER THEIR TRAINING, THEY DID SAY THAT THEY WROTE THAT THEY ARE PROVIDED WITH ANNUAL TRAINING ON MENTAL HEALTH. 
          RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME WE LEARNED ABOUT THIS CRITICAL INCIDENT RESPONSE TRAINING. 
          I NEEDED SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT. 
          SPECIFIC FOR THOSE 14 SOLVER. 
          BUT I WANT TO ASK ABOUT MAYBE IT'S IN THE POLICY THAT HE SENT TO US, RIGHT. 
          THAT GETS INTO AN EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THAT . 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT, LIKE, I CAN TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, BUT I'M NOT A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. 
          I'M NOT EDUCATED IN THAT. 
          I'M NOT TRAINED IN THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK, UM, WHAT CITY KETTERING HAVE DONE IS THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY BROUGHT ON BOARD MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND SPLICE AND SOCIAL WORKERS TO DO THAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE THEN, RATHER THAN SAYING, I HAVE FOUR OFFICERS THAT HAS TAKEN AN ANNUAL TRAINING. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ON OUR DEPARTMENT MOVE TO, UH, TAKING THAT, UM, TAKING THAT FOLLOW WITH LEAD THAT THE CITY OF CAMERON HAS DONE, WHICH I COMMEND YOU FOR DOING. 
          UM, BECAUSE THOSE PROFESSIONALS ARE NOT JUST TRAINED THE ANNUALLY, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY UPDATED AND HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, REMAIN THEIR LICENSE LICENSE WITH THE STATE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR INPUT. 
          LIKE IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH ME. 
          NO, I REALLY THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WAS A PART OF OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION, BUT HE, WE WANTED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. 
          AND AGAIN, NOW HE'S GOING TO SHARE WITH THE POLICY THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          WE WANT TO REVIEW THAT AND WE TOLD HIM WE WILL PROVIDE THE LESSON, FOLLOWING CONVERSATION AND FEEDBACK. 
          BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I THINK THE SCHOOL WE WANT TO HEAD TO IS HAVE A SIMILAR MODEL TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH OTHER PARTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, AND THEN, UM, WE MOVED INTO A CALM DISCUSSION ON THE DIBBLING TIE TO THE, TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT HIRING AND RECRUITING RIGHT WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO, UM, SO TO FIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE KID THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ABOUT 10%, AND I KNOW WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, UM, THEY SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME OFFICERS THAT ARE GETTING READY TO RETIRE AND TO BE READY TO DO SOME MORE IRON. 
          AND SO, UM, WE DID POINT OUT THAT THEY'VE HAD CHALLENGES IN, IN, UH, RECRUITING MINORITIES INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO WE THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN BE DONE, RIGHT. 
          WELL, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO CHANGE THAT? RIGHT. 
          AND SO, UM, SO HE MENTIONED, AND HE MENTIONED THAT THIS, THIS PROBLEM, THAT THIS PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE CALLED THE EXPLORER POST PROGRAM AT THE TIME, WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE BIG, MENTIONED IT TO US YESTERDAY. 
          IT'S A PROGRAM 14 TO 21 YEAR OLD, 21 YEAR OLDS. 
          AND SO KIND OF GIVES THEM A BIT, UM, INTRODUCTION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY MY NOTICE TO GO INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO I THOUGHT THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          AND SO, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT, SO HE SAID, WHERE'S THAT OKAY, WHERE'S THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THAT LOCATED? HE SAID, WELL, YOU GOTTA GO TO THE CITY PAGE, ENDED UP AT THE POLICE PAGE, THIS PAGE HERE THAT IT'S LIKE FOUR, FIVE PAGES DEEP. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M LIKE, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW,  MISSION PAGE. 
          YOU TALK ABOUT EVEN, RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE PUT THIS ON FACEBOOK OR YOU LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO ADVERTISE THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. RIGHT. 
          SO THAT, SO THAT KIDS KNOW ABOUT LIKE, YES, MA'AM 14 THAT AGE DEMOGRAPHIC, THEY'RE NOT ON FACEBOOK. 
           I THINK I MENTIONED WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE HIGH 
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SCHOOL, EVEN AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE, WHETHER IT BE POSTING FLYERS OR WHATEVER. 
          NO CUTE INFORMATION. 
          NOW YOU MENTIONED YOU GOT THE SRO WAS THERE, THIS WAS OFFICER'S. 
          SO AGAIN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE PEOPLE WITH THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS TO KIND OF TIE IT BACK TO THE WHOLE, CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY RELATIONS INTO AS WELL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THAT TRUST BETWEEN, UM, ESPECIALLY THIS OFFICER'S. 
          SO, SO WE WOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THAT TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SAY LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A GOOD PROFESSIONAL MOMENT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU SHOULD CONSIDER, SO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. 
          AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO YOU MENTIONED THAT LIKE THE HUBRIS WAS PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY POLICE ACADEMY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT I THINK HE MENTIONED THAT LIKE SINCLAIR AND STATE, THEY HAVE LIKE TRAINING PROGRAMS. AND SO, UM, SO WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO YOUR INTERNET RIGHT. 
          ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK TO THE, UM, THE SCHOOLS ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO ATTRACT MINORITIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO, AGAIN, CHANGE THAT, UH, CHANGE THAT PERCEPTION AND GET FALSE COURAGE ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND SO, UM, AND SO THAT, YEAH, SO WITH THAT, THAT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, YEAH. 
          IT WAS OUR CONVERSATION. 
          SO REALLY RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, CAUSE I KNOW THAT, THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS SINCE LAST, LAST MONTH. 
          I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM, WE HAD A SENSE THROUGH THE COMPENSATION LINE, LIKE THE BODY CAMERAS, I THINK IT WAS ADDRESSED THE DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING THAT WAS ADDRESSED. 
          SO DON'T EVEN BREAD, WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND I THINK THE FIRST ONE HAD TO DO WITH COMPLAINT PROCESS. 
          I STILL HAVE THE, WE STILL, EVEN THOUGH WE TALKED THROUGH THAT, WE JUST STILL NEED TO GET THAT DOCUMENTED, I GUESS. 
          UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, STOP OCCURRED TO ME THAT WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, I GOT THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION, WHICH STILL STILL, UH, STILL HERE, WHICH IS TO GET ON THE, UM, THE WEBSITE, ALL THE GENERAL ORDERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO IT STILL HOLDS RIGHT. 
          SOME WOULD BE TO GET THAT, GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, YEAH. 
          AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN FUTURE HAVING SOME, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CHIEF POLICE, RIGHT. 
          HE'S, HE'S WORKING AT THE 10,000 FOOT LEVEL. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO HE'S LIKE, HEY, DID HE GET YOU GUYS ENGAGED WITH SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, OUR LORD'S OF OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY INTERACTING TODAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW WHAT, EVEN IN DIFFERENT FOLKS AND THEY NEED MAY BE ABLE TO SHARE OUR PERSPECTIVE AND GIVE US SOME INSIGHT AND SOME INPUT. 
          SO WHAT, OKAY. 
          MAYBE HAVE SOME FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSIONS, SOME OF THE OTHER LOWER LEVEL OFFICERS EITHER PUSH FROM THEM. 
          AND LIKE WE TOLD YOU, WE TOLD THE TEAM, HEY, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO HAVE THIS BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY MENTIONED, HE SAID THAT WHEN YOU FIRST MET, WHEN WE FIRST MET, UM, WHAT WAS IT BACK IN JANUARY, ALONG WITH ROB SUMMER AT THE TIME, IT SEEMS A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE RIGHT. 
          SHAPE AND THIS, AND THIS CLOSER DIVERSITY GROUPS. 
          SO YOU KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO HE'S A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT HE WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, EVEN THAT YESTERDAY HE SAY, I WAS TELLING FOLKS, MAN, I'VE HAD THAT INITIAL CONVERSATION. 
          WASN'T LIKE, WHEN I FOUND OUT, RIGHT, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY GOOD, UH, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION AND HONESTLY, YEAH, WE'RE NOT HERE TO ATTACK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE FORCE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT OUR GOAL IS WE WANT TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WE DO WANT, WE SAW US TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE THAT, FOR THOSE BAD APPLES, RIGHT. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HELD THE CAMERA. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          SO, UH, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE MODEL OF COMMUNITY BASED POLICING AND BUILDING RELATIONSHIP, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND SO THAT'S LIKE THE GOOD OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF INCIDENCES LIKE WE SAW WITH GEORGIA, FLORIDA, AND SOME OF THE OTHER CASES. 
          SO AT THAT PROBABLY SORRY. 
          UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF DAYS, I ACTUALLY HAD A RESIDENT WITH, HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THEY WERE TREATED, UM, UNFAIRLY BY POLICE, UH, A WAY THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TREATED AND WAS ACTUALLY ARRESTED WITHOUT HAVING BEEN READ MIRANDA RIGHTS. 
          UM, AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          AND ONE, I KNOW THERE'S A COMPLAINT PROCESS BECAUSE THEY TOLD US THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WHERE IS IT? IT'S SOMEWHERE ON THE WEBSITE, EMBED IT SOMEWHERE. 
          WE GOTTA DIG FOR IT. 
          SO THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE IS WHEN RESIDENTS HAVE A CONCERN OR AN ISSUE, THEY NEED TO KNOW WHERE TO GO, WHERE TO REPORT THAT. 
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AND THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS IN WHICH IT WOULD BE HANDLED. 
          SO I DEFINITELY AGREE. 
          UM, I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION WRITTEN DOWN TOO, THAT IT'D BE DOCUMENTED THE COMPLAINT PROCESS DOCUMENTED. 
          I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT, BUT THE COMPLAINT PROCESS IS VERY BIG ON THE WEBSITE FIRST. 
          AND I DID HAVE TO DIG FOR IT. 
          I WAS ABLE TO SEND THAT, UM, THAT LINK TO THE RESIDENT, UM, AND THEY WILL BE SHARING WITH ME WHAT THAT PROCESS IS LIKE FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THAT COMPLAINT PROCESS. 
          BUT THEY WERE VERY APPREHENSIVE ABOUT IT BECAUSE SHE SAID, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING AFTER ME. 
          SHE WAS VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THAT. 
          SO SHE REALLY DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE REPORTING IT. 
          THEN IT'S NOT CLEAR AS TO THE WEBSITE STATES THAT THE COMPLAINT WILL BE RECEIVED AND ASSIGNED TO THE APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUAL FOR INVESTIGATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT INDIVIDUAL IS, HOW HIS RETIREMENT, IT COULD BE THE POLICE OFFICER WHO ABUSED HER, BASICALLY WHAT SHE SAID. 
          UM, IT COULD BE THEIR BEST FRIEND, I DON'T KNOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND IT SAYS, WHAT RESPONSE WILL BE SENT, ADVISE HIM THAT THE COMPLAINT IS UNDER INVESTIGATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR THAT, THE TIMELINE FOR SENDING THEM A LETTER. 
          UM, HOW CAN THEY PUT AN UNBIASED PERSON IN THIS PROCESS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          IF I REPORT SOMETHING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE RECOURSE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. 
          AND TO BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW HOW COMFORTABLE I WOULD FEEL. 
          IF I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE POLICE, I'M GOING TO GO REPORT TO THE POLICE THAT HAS HAD A PROBLEM. 
          SO SOMEWHERE WE HAVE GOT TO FIX THIS PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE AN UNBIASED PERSON IN THIS. 
          OTHERWISE, I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN. 
          THINGS CAN BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. 
          WE HOPE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN. 
          UM, THERE'S NO TIMELINE. 
          I HEARD YOU SAY THAT 30 DAYS, BUT THAT'S NOT DOCUMENTED. 
          THERE'S NOTHING WRITTEN WRITTEN ON THE WEBSITE ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE ABOUT THAT AGAIN, RIGHT. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT TRANSPARENT. 
          UM, AND HOW LONG DO THEY HAVE THE CONTEXT OF THE PERSON THAT THE COMPLAINT IS ADMITTED AND WHO'S COPIED ON THE COMPLAINT. 
          THOSE ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED AGAIN, JUST THE TRANSPARENCY PIECE. 
          UM, AND I DID HEAR, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN SHAW SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AN AD OR SOMETHING. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T KNOW. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE AN AVENUE FOR PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR COMPLAINTS. 
          AND THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. 
          SO I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT DOCUMENTATION PROCESS AND NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY LAID OUT. 
          UM, AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TOO, THAT I CAN SUBMIT THE ONES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
          UM, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I ASKED ABOUT THE BODY CAM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THIS, THIS RESIDENT'S CONCERN, UM, AND THIS ONE WAS FRESH ON MY MIND BECAUSE THEY JUST TALK TO ME TODAY, BUT I'VE HAD A FEW RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT IT, BUT SHE, UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE POLICE OFFICER COMES TO YOUR HOUSE. 
          THEY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND THEY DON'T READ THEIR RESCUE, BUT THEY DON'T READ THEIR MIRANDA RIGHTS TO YOU. 
          UM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO HANDLE. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE BODY CAMERA LETS THE BODY CAMERA RECORDING ALL OF THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST STEPPING INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ALSO LIKE, IS IT CONTINUOUSLY, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT THERE, ANSWERING THEM, ANSWERING THE CALL, UM, AT LEAST THE VIDEO PORTION OF THE CAMERAS. 
          THEY HAVE TO ENGAGE THE AUDIENCE. 
          RIGHT?  SO AS SOON AS THIS BE TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AND I WANT TO PROTECT THEM, BUT IT PROTECTS US BECAUSE I SEE THE POLICE AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S BOTH SIDES. 
          IT JUST HAS TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT. 
          SO YOU HAD, WHAT WERE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS I THINK WERE TAKING FORWARD? UM, 
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SO THERE'S REALLY, I GUESS TWO AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? THE ONE, THE ONE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT JUST HAVING THE PROCESS DOCUMENTED, DOCUMENTED, OBVIOUSLY VISIBLE, RIGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW YEAH. 
          HERE'S THAT HAPPENING? THAT THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE  AND SO, UM, SO THAT THE ONE THAT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT  AT THIS POINT, UM,  OBVIOUSLY CONTINUES AS WE REVIEWED DOCUMENTS. 
          UM,  MR. STEVEN, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT EXISTS THAT TELLS THE RESIDENTS, IF THIS HAPPENS, DO THIS, LIKE IF POLICE COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND THEY DON'T READ YOUR MIRANDA RIGHTS, DO YOU TECHNICALLY HAVE TO SPEAK TO THEM? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT KIND OF GIVES A PROCESS FOR HOW THINGS SHOULD HAPPEN IF THEY WANT TO SEARCH YOUR HOUSE AND THEY DON'T HAVE A WARRANT, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, THAT EDUCATION PIECE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN EDUCATION OR REFORM, I'M NOT SURE WHICH, WHICH COMMITTEE WOULD HANDLE OR MAKE YOU VOTE TOGETHER. 
          MORE OF LOOKING AT CURRENT POLICIES, RIGHT? WITH THE DEPARTMENT POLICE OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT, WE CAN MAKE CHANGE A RECOMMENDATION TO THEIR POLICY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY DO. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT PART EDUCATION RIGHTS AS CITIZENS KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE, RIGHT. 
          IN A SITUATION WHERE, AND ARE THEY REQUIRED TO THE MIRANDA RIGHTS? ARE THERE, IS THAT A REQUIREMENT UNDER ARREST, LIKE A TRAFFIC TICKET AS A CITIZEN? YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT YOU, EVEN IF YOU'RE UNDER ARREST, BUT TO BE OUT OR ARRESTED, DO YOU HAVE TO READ YOU YOUR MIRANDA RIGHTS? AND SO EVEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT, AND WE SAW THAT EVEN WITH SANDRA BLAND, WHEN SHE, YOU KNOW, HE TOLD HER TO GET OUT OF THE CORNER, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING ME FOR, WITH YOUR CIGARETTE OUT? YOU CAN'T ASK ME TO PUT MY CIGARETTE OUT, BUT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND WHEN FEAR DRIVES YOU AND YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IN A SITUATION, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE FACED WITH A SITUATION LIKE YOURS. 
          SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, THEN YOU MIGHT DO THE WRONG THING AND THAT MAY CREATE MORE OF AN ISSUE FOR YOU. 
          SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WHERE CITIZENS. 
          NOW, IF THIS HAPPENS, THIS IS WHAT YOUR RIGHT IS. 
          THEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THIS OR NOT DO THIS. 
          SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GUESS. 
          AND DEFINITELY LAST TIME AS A PRIORITY, I WOULD AGREE. 
          I THINK IT IS FOR EDUCATION. 
          I THINK FOR ONE THING THEY'RE GOOD TO DO. 
          AND SO I, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, HOW LONG HAS IT INVESTIGATION? WHERE DOES IT GO? WELL, DURING THE ORDER SIX OH TWO IS WHAT SPELLS ALL OF THAT STUFF OUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT GUESS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HECK NO,  I CAN'T HELP YOU. 
          YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO I THINK OUR, THE WEBSITE, I MEAN, THAT INFORMATION HAS TO BE, I THINK, NEEDS TO BE THERE. 
          SO LIKE, CAUSE THIS IS IT'S VERY CLEAR 
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ABOUT WHERE CAN I, AND IT SAYS IT HERE. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM MY NAME. 
          SO IF I WANT TO MAKE IT ANONYMOUS, I CAN FILE IT ANONYMOUS. 
          IF I WANT SOMEONE TO FILE IT FOR ME, SOMEONE ELSE CAN FOLLOW IT FOR ME BECAUSE I'M AFRAID TO GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          CAUSE THEY ALREADY, THEY JACKED ME UP, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A GOOD JOB. 
          AND I THINK SOUNDS LIKE WITH THE CHEAPEST WILLING TO DO WITH US IS TO LET'S GET THESE THINGS ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE ACCESS, NOT EVERY GENERAL ORDER THAT SOME STUFF IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT BE AS IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK HOW ABOUT FILE A COMPLAINT? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          I THINK WHAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR I SHOULD EXPECT WHEN A POLICE OFFICER PULLS ME OVER, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE, WHEREAS EASY. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO SEARCH, YOU KNOW, 50 MILLION PLACES TO FIND. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WITH, THEY SEEM TO BE ALL, UM, PRETTY MUCH WEBSITE RELATED AND VISIBILITY RELATED, UM, IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE. 
          I KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BODY CAM INFORMATION BEING DONE ON THE WEBSITE. 
          IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE BY THE HANDS SAID, SO IT'S SOMETHING GENERAL ORDERS, RIGHT? SO THAT AFRICAN GUY JOKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS CHIEF AND SAID, WE HAVE ALL THIS DOCUMENTATION, BUT MOST PEOPLE NEED THIS STUFF. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW? UM, NOW THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU TRY TO EXTRACT CERTAIN KEY THINGS FROM CERTAIN DOCUMENTS AND THE THINGS THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT AND PUT IT MAYBE MORE IN LAYMAN'S TERMS OR SOMETHING SUMMARIZED SOME OF THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, KEEP THESE ARE PEOPLE MOST INTERESTED IN. 
          MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THAT FROM AN EDUCATION PERSPECTIVE. 
          UM, BUT IT IS SPELLED OUT IN THE GENERAL ORDERS POLICY. 
          RIGHT? SO IT'S THERE, BUT, BUT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THEM, ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'LL ASK TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE, I UNDERSTAND THAT PORTION OF IT. 
          I THINK THAT'S ME BECAUSE I THINK I SHARED IT IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS THAT I HAD TO ME AFTER THIS. 
          IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY BODY CAMERAS, UM, IN RESIDENTS, RASCALS, BUT AGAIN, THEY HADN'T ALREADY BEEN AWARE, BUT THAT'S COMES TO THE FOREFRONT OR THEIR MIND BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING IN NEIGHBORING CITIES. 
          SO I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TACKLE IN OUR CITY THAT WE HAVE THAT TRANSPARENCY THAT WE USE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, YOU, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO ADD BACK, YOU MAKE A PIPE PROCESS ON THE LEFT SIDE, WHO'S ACTUALLY DOCUMENTING THAT PROCESS. 
          WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THEM? SO I, SO IN THAT CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT WAS THERE AND THAT'S WHAT I LOOKED TO HIM TO KNOW. 
          AND I GUESS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE THE ACTION COMPLAINT PROCESS, I THINK YOU'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT A WHOLE, HOW CAN, BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS WILL BE MORE, NOT JUST FROM A POLICE STANDPOINT, BUT IF YOU CAME TO HERE AND YOU FELT YOU WEREN'T TREATED RIGHT HERE IN THE LOBBY. 
          SO THAT COMPLAINT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE ENCOMPASSED EVERYTHING, NOT JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL GO TO THE CITY OFFICE OR WHATEVER, AND I HAVE AN ISSUE, BUT ONE THING WE DID TALK ABOUT IS TRYING TO SEPARATE THOSE COMPLAINTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ONCE THEY DO GO IN IS OKAY, WHICH ONES ARE SITTING RIGHT. 
          VIOLATIONS IN THAT TIME, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON. 
          HOW WOULD THAT GATHER? CAUSE THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY. 
          AND WE ALSO, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, SO LET'S SAY PLANT COMES IN, RIGHT COMPLIANCE. 
          SO THE REFORM COMMITTEE, WHEN THEY ACTUALLY SEE THE BIKE, I THINK IT'D BE OPEN TO ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION, RIGHT. 
          WITH THE COMMISSIONER AS A WHOLE CLIENTS PROVIDE FEEDBACK. 
          WHAT HAPPENS, 
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COUPLE OF COMMENTS YOU DON'T MIND. 
          UM, SO IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE OFFICER TO PROVIDE INFORMATION REGARDING THE STOPS AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING THAT, THAT OPTION OVER TO THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE, UM, ACO HAS, UH, UH, UH, BASIC FORMAT ON SOME INFORMATION THAT CAN BE PINPOINTED TO, TO, TO REFERENCE, UH, BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT, ESPECIALLY TO KNOW YOUR RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN, UM, DURING THESE THESE INSTANCES. 
          UM, SO I DO APPRECIATE EDUCATION COMMUNITY TRYING TO TAKE IT ALL BECAUSE IT IS A HIGH ENGINE, 40 FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS IN ITSELF. 
          UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATION BE MODIFIED TO INCLUDE A TIMEFRAME FOR COMPLETION. 
          UM, THAT WAY WE'RE ABLE TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE. 
          UH, IF, IF 60 DAYS IS, IS, IS OUR EXPECTATION FOR THEM TO IMPLEMENT OR PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT, UM, THE, UH, THE POLICIES ON THE WEBSITE, UM, THAT WE HAVE THAT FOR EDITOR TO ATTEND THAT. 
          SO THAT'S THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION I HAVE REGARDING THAT IS JUST SOME TYPE OF A TIMEFRAME FOR EFFICIENT. 
          SO IT'S A WHOLE, I'VE REFERENCED THE DATE, HUMAN RELATIONS COUNCIL. 
          THE HRC HAS A COMPLAINT PROCESS ON THEIR WEBSITE. 
          AND IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S ONLY ONE CLICK AWAY. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT HIDDEN, BUT THEY DO BREAK DOWN THEIR LIKE TYPE OF COMPLAINTS AS EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING CREDIT. 
          THAT WAY, WHEN YOU DO YOUR COMPLAINT, IT BREAKS IT DOWN TO WHAT CATEGORY. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING, IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE HUMAN RELATIONS, COUNCIL HRC IS A DATING HRC, ONE WORD THAT BORDER, BUT THEY, THEY DO, UM, IT'S, IT'S, THEIR COUNCIL IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CITY, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR COMPLAINT PROCESS, CAUSE THEY'VE HAD THAT SET UP, THEY ACTUALLY ALSO HOLD, UM, I THINK IT'S QUARTERLY CIVIL RIGHTS HEARINGS. 
          SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE HEARINGS AS WELL. 
          SO, AND THAT PUBLIC, SO THAT WAY, IF THEY WANT TO DO, IF THERE'S A, A LOT OF TIMES IT HAS TO DO WITH HOUSING BECAUSE A LOT OF LANDLORDS VIOLATE THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THEY'LL HAVE THOSE. 
          BUT, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THE CITY SIMILAR TO HOW THEIR COMPLAINT PROCESS GOES, BECAUSE THEY ALSO HANDLE, THEY ACTUALLY HANDLE COMPLAINTS THAT COME TO THEM. 
          SO I DO WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, UM, IS IT, WOULD IT, DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF THE TIME KIND OF FRAME? WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE TO TWO MONTHS AGO. 
          THAT'S THAT'S WHEN THE INITIAL CONVERSATION STARTED. 
          SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN 60 DAYS. 
          TIME-LAPSE I THINK ASKING FOR ANOTHER 60 DAYS WOULD BE REASONABLE. 
          UM, UH, ANY REFERENCE POINT JUST CONSIDERING  SINCE, SINCE, UH, SINCE THE ACTUALLY ACTIONS BEING TAKEN. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST. 
          LET'S SAY ONE 30 DAYS, I THINK THEY'D BE REASONABLE WITH THE REQUEST. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO PROVIDE THIS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          AND I THINK YOU CAN SET A TIMELINE. 
          IS THERE A TIMELINE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          WAS THIS THE COMPLAINT FOR THE POLICIES, THE POLICIES AND THE COMPLAINT PROCESS? I WAS THINKING IT A, THE POLICY STARTED OPENING THAT PEOPLE WERE FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH, BUT I WAS THINKING THE POLICIES SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR OWN COURSE, UH, THE WEBSITE, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST 60 DAYS COMPLAINT PROCESS. 
          I AGREE. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD OUTLINE WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS AND THEN FIND THE GAPS AND FILL THE GAPS AND FIND OUT THAT BY RACE, WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF MOVING AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND A TIMEFRAME PERIOD ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          SO, RIGHT. 
          SO I'M CLEAR, RIGHT? WE'RE ALL CLEAR, RIGHT? I THINK WHERE REMEMBER TWO WORDS, WHICH I AGREE WITH THAT TIME TABLE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT A, THIS COMPLAINT PROCESS DETAIL OUTLINE, RIGHT. 
          WHAT AI IS AND WHAT OUR ROLE. 
          AND SO WE SHARED THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN WITH 
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SCOTT AND HIS TEAM YESTERDAY, SO I THINK IT'S 60 DAYS COME BACK AND SAY, HERE IS DOCUMENTED PROCESS AND SUBMIT THAT TO US AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK OR SET IT AS IT IS FOR. 
          WE HAD, I THINK, I THOUGHT EVEN, I THINK BACK, RIGHT, ANDREW, I THINK HE HAD LISTED JUST FOLLOWED THROUGH ON THAT. 
          SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LET'S MOVE FORWARD RECOMMENDATION. 
          I THINK THE 60 DAYS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME, TO BE HONEST. 
          I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TIME BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR AWHILE AND I THINK THAT IT, SHOULD WE ALREADY HAVE, THEY ALREADY HAVE A PLANNING PROCESS FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IT'S JUST THAT IT NEEDS TO BE STREAMLINED AND IT NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENT AND PUT ON THE WEBSITE. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT COULD UNDERTAKE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THEY STARTED THE WORK  ART. 
          SO THEY HAVE A COMPLAINT PROCESS, I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY IT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS COMMISSION WHERE A NEW ENTITY, RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S NOW DOWN TO THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK. 
          YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A SUGGESTION. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF HAVING TIMELINES AND COMMITTEE GOALS AND DELIVERABLES. 
          UM, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THAT. 
          WE GET THINGS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER, BUT, UM, RECOGNIZING THAT OUR PROCESS OF HOW WE TAKE INPUT. 
          SO YOU MIGHT HAVE THE DISCUSSION HERE, BUT THAT DISCUSSION HAS TO TRANSLATE INTO A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. 
          AND COUNCIL HAS TO TRANSLATE THAT INTO A DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO KIND OF BACK DOWN TO STAFF, RICK, TO BE AN ACTIONABLE ITEM. 
          SO WHILE THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 60 DAYS, IF IT HASN'T GONE UP TO COME BACK DOWN, WE AS STAFF AREN'T PUTTING ANY TIME INTO IT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH OUR CHAIN OF COMMAND. 
          SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE FOR THIS OR FOR OTHER GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE STAFF ADDRESS IS THAT PERHAPS MAYBE PICK A SPECIFIC DATE ON THE CALENDAR, LIKE SAY JUNE 30, RIGHT? SO NOW THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BEFORE COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S GOING TO GIVE, WHEN THAT MESSAGE COMES DOWN. 
          NOW THE POLICE CHIEF FOR MYSELF OR SOMEONE ELSE ON STAFF KNOWS THE TARGET DATE YOU'RE WORKING AGAINST. 
          AND THEN BASED ON THE OTHER TASKS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO, WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, I CAN GET THAT DONE OR NO, WE'RE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL TIME. 
          AND WE THINK WE CAN. 
          AND THEN THAT WAY IT'S NOT, YOU SAID 60 DAYS. 
          AND THEN BY THE TIME SOMEBODY ON STAFF GETS A DIFFERENT, A LITTLE BIT 21 DAYS, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES. 
          SO, UM, I'M ON THE CONDITION TO BE ABLE TO GET A PRODUCT AND EXPECT A PRODUCT AND HAVE THAT BE REASONABLE FOR BOTH PARTIES. 
          AND SO JUST RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S A WHOLE COMMUNICATION PROCESS UP THE CHAIN, AND THEN BACK DOWN THE CHAIN, UM, RECOGNIZE THAT IN INSTANCES WE'RE NOT DELIBERATELY NOT DOING WORK OVER IGNORING WORK, BUT IT JUST HASN'T TRANSLATED UP AND DOWN THE CHAIN TO EXPEDITE THAT WORK. 
          SO JUST A SUGGESTION, BUT PERFECTLY, AND THE COMMISSION DOESN'T MIND IF I CAN COORDINATE WITH YOU ON HOW THE PROCESS FROM RECOMMENDATION TO COMMUNICATION, IT'S UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS, THE TIMEFRAMES THAT WE HAVE ARE WE MANAGE EXPECTATIONS AS WELL AS GET THEM GETTING BETTER. 
          AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, TO, TO EXECUTION, BUT WHAT'S HOLDING, UH, WRAP IT UP. 
           WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE LAST THAT, UM, THIS MORNING THAT THEY, THEY HAVE TIME FOR ANOTHER SAID THROUGHOUT CITY COUNCIL HAS SO MANY DAYS IN WHICH THEY WILL RESPOND, BEEN INVOLVED BACK. 
          SO I THINK WE'VE DEFINITELY, WE NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE, THAT BACK AND FORTH AND TIMELINE 
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AND ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          UM, I DON'T WANT ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          WE HAVE ONE SITTING HERE WE REPORT DIRECTLY TO CORRECT. 
          THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S THAT WAS MY STAFF IS YOUR ASSISTANT TO FACILITATE DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL INFORMATION, THINGS OF THAT MATTER. 
          BUT TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE DIRECTLY AND YOU WOULD GIVE THE RANK OF JUST STAFF BASED ON OUR  DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS. 
           OKAY. 
          SO CAN YOU STAY FOR THE RECOMMENDATION? IT'S JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR  BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE DOCUMENT, THE PROCESS SORT OF BAG THE TIMELINE  UM, SO TO HAVE THE CITY DOCUMENT  SO WE WILL MOVE THOSE TWO THINGS TO COUNCIL ADVOCACY. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          ADVOCACY. 
          WE HAVE OUR LAST MEETING ON MARCH 17TH, UM, AND DISCUSS SEVERAL THINGS. 
          FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THANK EVERYBODY FOR ATTENDING THE STOP ASIAN EIGHT UNITY RALLY, WHICH TOOK PLACE ON MARCH 27TH, UH, WHEN YOU HAD 60 TO 75 PEOPLE, MAYBE THERE, UM, HAD SOME GREAT SPEAKERS, UM, FROM THE ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER COMMUNITY, UM, AND GOT A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL WHO ATTENDED. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN, SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, WE WENT TO FIGURE OUT A DEFINITE PROCESS FOR RAPID RESPONSES TO MAJOR INCIDENTS. 
          LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BLACK LIVES MATTER? UH, I'M SORRY, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO GEORGE CHLOE? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ASIAN AMERICANS IN THE SALON INCIDENTS IN ATLANTA? UM, WE WANT A DEFINITE RESPONSE PROCESS FOR HOW WE, AS A COMMUNITY, RESPOND TO THOSE INCIDENTS. 
          WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BETTER THAN FINE, WHAT A MAJOR INCIDENT WILL BE. 
          SO IT TO DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR SISTER CITIES AND LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE RESPONDING TO MAJOR INCIDENTS. 
          I DID LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THEY HAVE, UM, HATE CRIMES JUST DEFINED AS HATE CRIMES AND THAT HATE INCIDENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND HATE INCIDENTS OR JUST THOSE THINGS. 
          ALL OF THE OTHER VARIABLES ARE THERE. 
          THEY JUST HASN'T ESCALATED TO A CRIME. 
          SO WE WANT IT TO FIND OUT HOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRST OF ALL, GET ASSIGNED A HATE CRIME IF THEY EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED 
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A PAINT CANS TODAY. 
          UM, BUT A MAJOR INCIDENT TO US, THOSE THAT WE RESPONDED TO SO FAR ARE, UM, ACTS OF VIOLENCE, VANDALISM, AND WHAT SEEM TO BE HATE CRIMES TO US MAY NOT BE HATE CRIMES TO POLICE. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT THAT CAN BE VERY DIFFERENT TO ME. 
          IF YOU KILL SOMEBODY AND THEY'RE FROM A MINORITY CULTURE GROUP, THAT'S A HATE CRIME, BUT TO THE POLICE, IT MAY NOT BE. 
          AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING SO THAT WE KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THOSE, THOSE EVENTS PROPERLY. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED WAS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS OCCURRED. 
          SO LET'S SAY WE HAD AN INCIDENT IN FEWER HEIGHTS, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO GEORGIA FLOYD? WHAT WOULD WE WANT TO SEE FROM OUR CITIES PER THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE? THERE'S NORMALLY A 24 HOUR RESPONSE TO AN INCIDENT OF THAT MADNESS. 
          SO IN 24 HOURS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM CITY GOVERNMENT THAT THIS ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE IN OUR CITY, WHETHER THAT BE A PUBLIC STATEMENT, UM, SOME TYPE OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, UM, TO THE FAMILY OR TO WHOEVER, TO WHOEVER THIS IS AFFECTED. 
          UM, WITHIN 48 HOURS, WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE. 
          THAT COULD BE A LETTER, JUST A LETTER OF SUPPORT. 
          OKAY, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THIS HAPPENED, AND WE WANT TO SHOW YOU OUR SUPPORT. 
          AND THEN, UM, SEVEN DAYS RESPONSE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF SOLIDARITY ACTION, WHETHER IT WOULD BE AN EVENT, WHETHER IT BE, IT WOULD BE A PHONE CALL, WHATEVER IT WOULD BE, WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT. 
          AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REALLY DO THAT IS TO SORT OF BENCHMARK WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. 
          UM, IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE FEASIBLE TO DO A SOLIDARITY EVENTS IN SEVEN DAYS. 
          AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY MAY NOT ALWAYS BE ABLE TO ATTEND A SOLIDARITY EVENTS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONSISTENT PROCESS SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT EXPECT. 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN, THAT OUR CITY IS SHOWING SUPPORT TO LOCAL CITIES. 
          SO, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS, BUT IF SISTER CITIES ARE HAVING THINGS TAKE PLACE OR THINGS ARE HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD, WHAT I'M SEEING FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES IS THEY ARE SHOWING THEIR SUPPORT, WHETHER IT'S A LETTER OR A PUBLIC STATEMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE FRIENDLY TO OTHER CITIES. 
          UM, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES US LOOK GOOD, BUT BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THAT CITY SITUATION. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS, IT'S ACTUALLY A RECOMMENDATION THAT I AM GOING TO, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING TO COUNCIL THAT THE MAYOR, WHERE HIS DESIGNEE WOULD SEND A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO CITIES THAT HAVE HAD A MAJOR INCIDENT, UM, AND THE DESIGNEE CAN BE WHOEVER HE DECIDES, WHETHER IT'S VICE MAYOR, A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, WHOEVER THAT WOULD BE. 
          UM, BUT WE NEED TO GIVE SOME TYPE OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO SHOW THAT WE SEE YOU AND TO HEAR YOU THAT NEEDS, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS MINORITY BUSINESS RECOGNITION AND HOW WE ARE RECOGNIZING OUR MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS OF THE MONTH. 
          AND ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS FOR FINDING ANY MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS OF THE MONTH WAS TO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO SUGGEST A MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS, UM, THAT WOULD BE DONE VIA OUR WEBSITE OR A CITY, THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THAT PROCESS WE STILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH, BUT WE THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR CITY RESIDENTS TO TELL US WHO THEY THINK A GOOD CANDIDATE WILL BE FOR MINORITY ON BUSINESS SUPPORT DOES TWO THINGS FOR THE BUSINESS. 
          WELL, TWO THINGS, ONE, IT GIVES THE MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS RECOGNITION THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE OTHERWISE RECEIVED. 
          UM, AND WE KNOW MINORITY ON BUSINESSES MAY NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE MARKETING BUDGET AND AN ADVERTISING DOLLARS TO EXPOSE THEIR BUSINESS. 
          SO IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE SEEN. 
          THEN ALSO IT GIVES US OPPORTUNITIES TO SELECT THE BUSINESS BASED ON WHAT 
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THE COMMUNITY HAS TEST MAJESTIC GIVES THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE ENGAGEMENT AMONGST OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          UM, SOMETHING ELSE WE TALKED ABOUT IS TRACKING, UM, MINORITY BUSINESSES COMING INTO OUR CITY. 
          SO CURRENTLY I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS FOR HOW, UM, HOW ARE WE, HOW ARE WE FLAGGING? HOW DO WE BECOME AWARE OF A MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS? I'M NOT SURE IF THE HUBER HEIGHTS CHAMBER IS DOING ANYTHING TO, UM, KEEP TRACK OF MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES THAT COME INTO THE CITY, BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UM, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, ONE THERE'S DOLLARS THAT MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS OWNERS CAN GET. 
          THERE'S ALL TYPES OF CERTIFICATIONS, MICRO ENTERPRISE CERTIFICATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND WE JUST KNOW THAT MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES AND THEY NEED THAT EXTRA LAYER OF SUPPORT. 
          SO DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND, IF THERE IS A PROCESS FOR, UM, KEEPING TRACK OF MINORITY ON BUSINESSES GROWING? SO IF IN TURN WE DON'T TRACK THAT INFORMATION. 
          A LOT OF TIMES, IF YOU KNOW, BUSINESS GOES, THERE'S A PARTICULAR STYLE OF BUSINESS AND IT'S REPLACED BY ALIKE OR SIMILAR BUSINESS APPROPRIATELY, WE WOULD NEVER KNOW THAT THAT TRANSACTION EVER REALLY OCCURRED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT IS HOW WE CAN CREATE MORE VISIBILITY FOR MINORITY BUSINESSES. 
          UM, SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR CITY, HOW ARE THEY, ARE THEY HAVING GRAND OPENINGS? WHAT SUPPORT DO THEY NEED? AND THEN ALSO WE, WE DISCUSSED STARTING A MINORITY BUSINESS CHAMBER FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD IT COME RIGHT AWAY. 
          BUT, UM, I DO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED IN YOLANDA AND TERROR. 
          I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE SHERIFF FOR FRIDAY, APRIL 16TH, WITH SOMEONE FROM THE OHIO CENTRAL OHIO AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 
          UM, AND HE IS HAPPY TO SUPPORT US WITH HOW THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. 
          SO IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THAT MEETING, I CAN SEND YOU THE INFORMATION. 
          BASICALLY WHAT WE WILL BE DOING IS GETTING INFORMATION. 
          WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WANT US TO DO. 
          BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET SOME SUPPORT FOR MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES. 
          I KNOW LOCALLY IS THE, IN HISPANIC. 
          SO THAT'S THE ONLY ORGANIZATION I KNOW LOCALLY DATE HERE IN CINCINNATI. 
          COLUMBUS HAS A, THEY HAVE TONS OF ALL THE CHINESE, THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF MONEY, BUT THE DAY KNOWING WHAT I KNOW IS IT'S ROBERT SILLINESS AS THE ONLY LOCAL ORGANIZATION, THEY HAVE ONE AND THEY GET NINE AT WAY. 
          YOU'VE GOT, I THINK SHE COMPLETELY DISSOLVED HER ORGANIZATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ONE ENOUGH, IT WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN  WAS CALLED THE FOCUS FOR YOU, OR MAYBE AFFILIATED WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE  WITH MINORITY BUSINESSES. 
          THAT MAY BE ANOTHER . 
          THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE ON HERE WAS, UM, THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE BEING A PART OF THE CITY'S QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER. 
          AND DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE WE PUT THAT? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT BEING A PART OF THAT QUARTERLY. 
          WELL, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING JUST EVERY KIND OF GROUP OF THE COMMISSION HAVING A QUARTER OR A PIECE OF THAT NEWSLETTER. 
          AND WE COULD HAVE LIKE AN ADVOCACY CORNER FOR, COULD BE THINGS THAT ARE NEW ISSUES OR UPCOMING THINGS OR ADVOCACY EVENTS, UM, THAT WE COULD UTILIZE IN THAT KIND OF AREA IN THE NEWSLETTER. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY IT, OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR, UH, APRIL THE 21ST, UM, AT SIX O'CLOCK BASED ON OUR THIRD, WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH SCHEDULE. 
          IS THAT STILL GOOD FOR YOU 
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DURING THAT TIME? YOU WON'T FIGURE THAT OUT YET. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE FOR A WHILE. 
          WE HAD A REALLY BAD WON'T COME OUT A WHILE BACK. 
          I'VE HAD MAJOR COMPLAINTS  BUT THEY AREN'T OFFENDED. 
          THEY'RE MENTIONING RINGING HIM BACK. 
          I DON'T EXACTLY WHAT DOES SHEET EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11, IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE LIKE, UM, USE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEMS COMPARED RIGHT HERE, BUT THEIR COMMUNICATIONS STUDENTS TO DO SOME INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES TO PRAY OR NEWSLETTERS? BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN THE STAFF IS SO BUSY WITH A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THIS WOULD GIVE STUDENTS NOT JUST THE HIGHER EDUCATION. 
          I MEAN, THIS WILL GIVE THE STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT EDUCATION COMPONENT AND GET THEIR DEGREE REQUIREMENT, BUT IT ALSO GIVES THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND AND OUTREACH TO, TO THOSE STUDENTS AND GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          BUT IT FREES UP ESSENTIAL STAFFING. 
          THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS CERTAIN COURSES. 
          SO THIS IS, IT'S NOT A LABOR ISSUE, IT'S A COST ISSUE. 
          AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO DRIVE COMMUNICATION ELECTRONICALLY. 
          AND SO THE OBJECTIVE OF THE NEWSLETTER IS EFFECTIVELY TO KIND OF SPLIT THE BABY IF YOU WILL. 
          AND SO, UM, THE NEWSLETTER WOULD BE EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 DOUBLE-SIDED AND IT'S DESIGNED TO BE A PHYSICAL REMINDER TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE WEBSITE, TO GET MORE DETAILED INFORMATION. 
          AND WHAT MAKES IT COMPLICATED IS TO KEEP THE COST DOWN. 
          IT HAS TO BE AN INSERT WITH THE UTILITY BILL AND THE COMMUNITY IS DIVIDED UP INTO QUARTERS. 
          AND SO THAT CALL UP WHATEVER MONTH IT IS THAT IT GOES OUT. 
          ONE QUARTER GOES OUT THE FIRST WEEK OR QUARTER. 
          IT GOES OUT THE SECOND WEEK. 
          SO IT'S A ROLL IN THE NEWSLETTER AS WELL. 
          SO THE NEWSLETTER THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ISN'T GOING TO BE THAT 12 PAGE FOLDED OVER TWICE, YOU KNOW, MAIL BOOKLET, PEOPLE WERE USED TO GETTING, BECAUSE THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE DOCUMENT TO CREATE. 
          SO THIS IS OUR ATTEMPTS TO FORTE BACK INTO OCCASIONAL WRITTEN COMMUNICATION. 
          AND IF THAT'S SUCCESSFUL, THEN I'M SURE COUNSEL WILL PROVIDE DIRECTION AND ADVICE FOR STAFF IN ANOTHER OUTLET OR ANOTHER WEDDING, DEPENDING UPON WHETHER OR NOT THEY FEEL THAT'S A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNICATION. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT, THAT'S OUR PUSH TO GET OUT. 
          WE'RE WORKING TO HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THE FIRST WRITTEN NEWSLETTER TO GO OUT IN Q3 AND Q4 OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SCHEDULING ISSUES THAT WE'VE GOT TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH TO GETTING INTO INTERNSHIPS, JUST GET STUDENTS OPPORTUNITY FEEDBACK TO SOMETHING. 
          AND RHONDA VIEW POINTED OUT TOO. 
          I KNOW WITH NEWER BUSINESSES COMING IN, WHEN THE CHAMBER BECOMES AWARE, I KNOW THEY DO VISITS A LOT OF IT'S SOLICITATION, BUT YOU KNOW, TO JOIN, BUT THEY, THEY ALWAYS OFFER ANY NEW BUSINESS. 
          AND IF THEY'RE NOT MEMBERS OF GRAND OPENING TYPE OF SITUATION, AND, UH, I MAKE IT A POINT TO TRY TO VISIT EVERY NEW BUSINESS. 
          I SEE TO TRY TO SPOTLIGHT THEM A LITTLE BIT ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND WHATNOT. 
          SO I'LL GET IN AND TRY TO MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNER IT'S PICTURES. 
          TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY DO. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S IT'S FIT. 
          I FEEL IT'S BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST AND GETTING PEOPLE AWARE OF USING. 
          SO WHEN I GOT SENT TO THE CITY, THE CHAMBER, WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL REACH OUT IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT THOUGH. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS THE KEY WOULD BE BECAUSE LIKE BRIAN SAID, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR BUSINESSES ROLLING INTO A LOCATION, YOU KNOW, SAY AN OFFICE BUSINESS, LIKE AN INSURANCE AGENCY, NOBODY KNOWS THAT THAT BUSINESS CAME IN. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE FINE FOR A BUSINESS PERMIT. 
           YEAH. 
          THERE'S NO REAL PERMIT FOR A BUSINESS FOR THAT. 
          AS LONG AS YOU MEET THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THAT ZONING PERMIT, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO DO IS THAT ANNUAL FIRE CHECK. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE DIDN'T HAVE ON THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'VE EVER DONE. 
          I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON THESE NEWSLETTER AS WELL. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, THERE IS A NEWSLETTER THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAP. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY QUICK TOOL TO USE. 
          I MEAN, I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN 
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PUBLIC AFFAIRS. 
          THIS IS A REALLY GOOD TWO MONTHS. 
          AND IF THESE, IF PEOPLE WANT TO GET INFORMATION OUT, UM, SO I WOULD SAY IF YOU CAN DO A LIVE FOR THAT TOOL AND UTILIZE THE I'M GONNA CALL IT THE MONITOR REPORT, UTILIZING BOTH WANT TO GET SOMETHING OUT MORE RAPIDLY TO THAT. 
          SO HOW DO YOU GET TO, ONCE YOU CLICK ON THAT? NO, GO SHOW THIS BOX AGAIN. 
           I WOULD CLICK ON AND CLOSE CLICK ON THE LINK AND IT'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WHAT IF YOU ALREADY CLICKED ON THAT BOX AND IT DOESN'T POP UP NOW, WHEN YOU GO TO THE CITIES ONE, JUST CLOSE YOUR PAGE. 
           OKAY. 
          SO HAVE WE COVERED EVERYTHING? YEAH. 
          ADVOCACY. 
          SO YOU, BEFORE, WHEN YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE RAPID RESPONSE INCIDENT PROCESS YES. 
          AND THEN THE, UM, THE RAPID RESPONSE PROCESS FOR MAJOR INCIDENTS, THEN THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE MAYOR OR HIS CITY VISIT ME, WHAT SEND A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO CITIES THAT HAVE A MAJOR INCIDENT. 
          AND I GUESS THAT CAN ALL KIND OF BE WRAPPED UP INTO ONE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE SAME THING WITHIN 24 HOURS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MADAM CHAIR, I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS ON RECORD. 
           REACH COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAD A, A MEETING ON THE, UM, ON TUESDAY, THE 23RD, WE DISCUSS THE AUDIO, THE CERTIFICATES, AND ALL OF THAT HAD HAPPENED AT THE, UM, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING THE NIGHT BEFORE. 
          AND WE HADN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, NATIONAL FUNDERS AT THIS, FOR THIS PART. 
          SO LET ME SAY THEIR NAMES HERE FOR RECORD. 
          AND IT WAS, UH, SEVENTH GRADE. 
          SECOND PLACE WAS A HALL. 
          UM, SEVENTH GRADE, FIRST PLACE  EIGHTH GRADE. 
          SECOND PLACE WAS PEYTON MILLER AND EIGHTH GRADE FIRST PLACE IT'S WAS NOW ENTIRE ROBINSON. 
          AND ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS WERE FROM, UH, WHY ISN'T THE MORNING? SO WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME LESSONS MURDER, UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO MORE EFFICIENTLY. 
          THE NEXT TIME WE DO ONE OF THESE KINDS OF EVENTS, UH, THE FIRST AND FOREMOST BEING THE WAY THE STUDENTS DID THOSE, UH, THOSE ESSAYS OR WHATEVER TO US. 
          AND THERE'S THIS COMMUNICATION THING BETWEEN AT LEAST MYSELF AND THE STUDENTS, UM, WHERE WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH STUDENTS DIRECTLY USING THEIR EMAILS THAT THEY USE IN SCHOOL. 
          SO CREATE A, QUITE A FORM OF SOMETHING WHERE THEY EVEN LOG IN A GOOGLE DOC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO TAKE, TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING. 
          UM, WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT THE, UM, CULTURAL FESTIVAL THAT IS COMING UP ON JUNE 12TH, UM, WHEN I WOULD SAY FINALIZE THE BUDGET, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE BUDGET AND WE HAD A SUBSEQUENT MEETING ON MARCH 28TH TO, UH, TO FURTHER WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND WHAT THAT BUDGET NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE POSITION AND BEING HONEST, THERE'S DIFFERENT CONCEPTIONS OF WHAT A BUDGET IS WITH, UM, WITH MEMBERS OF THE CONVENIENCE RESTRAINED. 
          THAT WAS A HUGE CONCERN FOR US. 
          BUT, UM, SO WE DID THAT, UH, THE INVITATIONS, UH, STARTED TO SEND THOSE OUT TODAY AND I SENT SOME OUT OF THIS WELL TO A MEMBERS OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. 
          SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSE POPULATION OF PEOPLE HAVE TO CULTURE FESTIVAL THAT WE FINALIZE SPONSOR BETTER. 
          UH, THAT HAS GOING OUT TO SOME OF OUR, UM, SOME OF THE MAJOR, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND, UH, BUSINESSES IN THE EDIBLE HEIGHTS AREA. 
          SO YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE IN HERE CALLS OR EMAILS FROM, FROM SOME, UM, WE DO NEED VOLUNTEERS FOR THE EVENT AND YOU'LL START SEEING THREE PATIENTS BUTTERFAT IN THE FIRST NINE VOLUNTEERS FOR THE CULTURE FESTIVAL RIGHT HERE, RIGHT HERE. 
          , IF YOU ARE ON THE COMMISSION, PLEASE BE PREPARED TO BE A VOLUNTEER FOR THE CULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          AND, UM, WE PLAN TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD TIME, BUT YOU'LL SEE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT COMING OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AS, UM, WE'VE ASKED THEM TO KEEP US UPDATED ON HOW MANY, THESE, UH, REQUESTS FOR SPONSORSHIP SO FAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO GET VENDORS. 
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UM, AND THAT'S, AND I STILL HAD TO SPEAK ABOUT FREE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT, UM, FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, WE'LL, WE'LL CHARGE THEM SOMETHING, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE MUSICAL FESTIVAL. 
          SO THERE'LL BE SOME MORE INFORMATION COMING OUT AS FAR AS THE VOLUNTEERS AND YOUR PARTICIPATION IN IT. 
          WE, UH, DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, PUTTING DEADLINES LAST DAY TO SIGN UP AND ALL OF THAT, BUT JUST AGAIN, THAT'S THE SMILING LITTLE ISSUES I NEED TO HAVE DEADLINES. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE A SLATE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE FINISHED SOMETIME PRETTY SOON AND SOUNDS LIKE, AND, UM, THAT'S WHAT WAS THE SPONSORS? THE, UH, UH, COMMITTEE DISCUSSED WITH THE FALL, WORKING ON THE TOPIC FOR A FALL CONTEST OF THE ALE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, IT'LL BE IN NOVEMBER AND WE'LL GET RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT, BUT THERE'LL BE SURROUNDED, UM, SURROUNDING, UH, NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN NOVEMBER AND, UM, HAVING ESSAYS MAYBE, OR, UH, SOME KIND OF PROJECT RELATED TO THAT IN NOVEMBER. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE, UH, THE THIRD TUESDAY, APRIL 20TH. 
          AND, UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT, I GUESS, MAIN PROBLEMS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED WITH THE CULTURAL FESTIVAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE A REALLY GOOD COMMITTEE RUNNING ON JUNE 12TH. 
          SO NO ISSUES HERE. 
          RIGHT? WELL, THANK YOU TO YOUR COMMITTEE FOR THE ESSAY CONTEST AND CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR STUDENTS. 
          AND ALSO WITH CULTURAL FAIR, MULTICULTURAL FAIR, ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT BUDGET TIGHT AND THAT YOU HAVE LINE ITEMS, EXPENDITURES. 
          I'M VERY METICULOUS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT AS WELL AND DEADLINES. 
          SO, UM,  UM, I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION, WHEN IS THE DEADLINE FOR, FOR VENDORS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE,  OKAY. 
          I SHARED THE GRAPHIC AND I SHARED THE INVITE AND ALL THAT ON ALL OUR, ALL THE FACEBOOK PAGES AS WELL. 
          AND SO IF YOU SEE THAT, PLEASE SHARE THAT IF YOU KNOW VENDORS, PLEASE SHARE IT WITH THEM OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, JUST FORWARD THAT OUT. 
          SO WE CAN GET THAT UP. 
          THE WORD OUT MORE. 
          I'VE HAD THAT FEEDER CREEK REACHED OUT TO ME IN THE CITY OF BEAVER CREEK. 
          THEY'RE PAYING YOU SAW IT. 
          AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED BECAUSE JUST TO GIVE YOU HIT THE WORLD AFFAIR, WHICH IS WHAT WE BASE THIS LOOSELY AFTER IS NOT HAVING THEIR EVENT IN THE SPRING. 
          SO THEY MAY BE IN THE FALL. 
          SO THERE, THERE WAS NOT ANOTHER BIG CULTURAL AREA FESTIVAL THAT'S GOING ON AT THE MOMENT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE WOULD BE THE FIRST OF THE POST PEN, IF YOU CAN SAY, IT'S TECHNICALLY KIND OF A, THE FESTIVAL HERE IN THIS AREA. 
          SO I SEE THAT WE WOULD GET A GOOD, A GOOD CROWD. 
          SO IF YOU NEED VENDORS, SO JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST SHARE AWAY AS LONG AS THEY SHARE AWAY AND HAVE THEM FILL OUT. 
          AND IT'S A REALLY SIMPLE FORM. 
          IT'S A LINK TO A GOOGLE FORM THAT THEY FILL OUT. 
          SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIKE MAIL PAPERWORK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO US IMMEDIATELY. 
          I MEAN, WE WILL ASK THE LICENSING AND STUFF AFTERWARDS, BUT WE NEED TO GET THAT BENEFIT. 
          AND WE ALSO MENTIONED CREATING AN EVENT ON FACEBOOK SHARE AND PLEASE SHARE, OKAY, IT'S ALREADY PRINTED AS WELL ON OUR PAGE. 
          SO, SO KEEP SHARING THE WORD OUT. 
          I'LL TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE MOST, IT'S OUR FIRST TIME DOING THIS IS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TO THIS EVENT. 
          UM, WE REALLY WANT IT TO BE HUGELY SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE NUMBERS HERE FOR A THOUSAND, POTENTIALLY A THOUSAND VISITORS TO THE FESTIVAL. 
          AND, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A GOOD TIME. 
          IF THE KITCHEN GETS ON THIS AWESOME IDEA, IT SHOULD BE. 
          I SENT EVERYTHING TO KATE AND SHE'S ON VACATION THIS WEEK. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WHEN SHE RETURNS, WE GET IT ON A CAB AND GET THAT OUT TO PUT THAT IN THE ELECTRONIC NEWSLETTER FLYER, PLEASE, THANK YOU. 
           COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR A DONATION OF A FOOD, SO WE'RE NOT REALLY CHARGING ANYBODY. 
          AND THEY WERE ASKING FOR SOME 
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DONATIONS, DO YOU HAVE ONE DESIGNATED OR WE STAY LOCAL WITH WHO WERE DONATING THAT FOOD AND ENGAGED CHURCH RIGHT NOW ENGAGED ST. 
          PETER'S HAS A FOOD BANK WHEN WE GET EVERYTHING WAS SPLIT BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT ARTS THOUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY AS WELL WITH OUR MISSION. 
          I WOULD PUT THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE US DONATE TO ONE OF THE FOOD BANKS. 
          WE WANTED TO KEEP TRYING TO KEEP IT LOCAL IN HUBER HEIGHTS. 
          AND IF YOU WANT TO SING AND DANCE WALKING THROUGH, YOU CAN SAY THAT  YEAH, YOLANDA. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE A, UH, EVENT SCHEDULE AND VENDORS AND THE KIDS COUNSELING WILL NOT LET US HAVING A MAN WITHOUT KIDS. 
          YES . 
          UM, AND I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO ADVOCACY BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE ADVOCACY FOR AN AWESOME JOB THAT THEY DID ON THE RALLY, THAT UNITY RALLY, UM, AND IT'S PRETTY GOOD STARTING OUT. 
          SO, AND IT WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL, VERY EDUCATIONAL, UM, AWESOME SPEAKERS. 
          IT WENT VERY WELL VERY WELL. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK LYNN, THAT  TEAR ALL INVOLVED WITH THAT STUFF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THOSE GROUPS ARE ACTUALLY PERFORMING. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          AWESOME. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT THIS PART OF US ABOUT ESTABLISHING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH PEOPLE AND THE MORE WE CAN DO THAT, THE BETTER WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND GET THINGS DONE. 
          AND I'M SORRY, I'M CIRCLING BACK TO, UM, BEFORE THAT, I JUST, ONE THING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GETTING KIDS INVOLVED IN THE, UM, POLICE EDUCATION OR POLICE FIELD. 
          AND AT ONE POINT THE CITY PEOPLE, SHE USED TO PARTNER WITH B AND C C J I'M THINKING IS, UM, NCCJ THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE FOR COMMUNITY JUSTICE OF GREATER DAYTON. 
          AND THEY HAD A SUMMER PROGRAM. 
          IT WAS FOR YOU. 
          IT WAS BASICALLY A PROGRAM, A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I KNOW THAT I SPOKE TO CHIEF LANGER ABOUT THAT LAST TIME WAS TOO LATE FOR IT TO HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HAPPEN THIS SUMMER FOR OUR YOUTH. 
          IT'S A THREE SUMMER CAMP IT'S JUST DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE FOR COMMUNITY AND JUSTICE WITH GREATER DAY NCCJ. 
          AND I ALREADY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, SO I CAN HELP LEVERAGE THAT AT ANYTIME. 
          YES. 
          WORKERS IN THAT PROGRAMS. SO THEY HAVE ANY TIME. 
          WELL IT'S TOWN IS FOR THE OLDER KIDS, BUT THEY HAVE, THE POLICE IS FOR THE 10 TO 12 YEAR OLD KIDS, PLEASE, THEN YOUTH TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THERE THEY ARE LOCAL. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IT'S A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, BUT THERE'S A DATE IN CHAPTER. 
          SO I JUST WANT IT TO, IT HAS BEEN DONE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          WE, WE HAVE PARTICIPATED. 
          YES, WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN IT BEFORE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ARE COMMITTEE REPORTS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          OH, BUSINESS 
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FINANCE. 
          I THINK WE COVERED EVERYTHING UNDER, YOU MAY SEND OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS, RESOLUTION UPDATE. 
           GREAT UPDATE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT? SO MOST REFERRAL NOVUS, BUT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION HAS A DATABASE THAT TRACKS ALL DECORATIONS FOR THE US. 
          UM, TODAY A HUNDRED MIAMI DECLARATIONS HAVE BEEN SIGNED ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, 10 OF THEM WERE AT A STATE LEVEL, 105 WHERE AT THE CITY LEVEL 76 WERE COUNTY LEVEL. 
          AND THEN ONE WAS A COUNTY COURT LEVEL OUT OF THE 105 CITIES THAT HAVE A BIG SLATE OF RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. 
          UH, CALIFORNIA, UH, HAS 16 CITIES THAT, UH, THAT DECLARED RACISM AS A POLITICAL CRISIS. 
          UH, TIMING IS OHIO FOR 16 AND TODAY MAKES 17. 
          AND TODAY WE'RE BEATING THE COUNTRY IN DECLARING PUBLIC UP OF RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. 
           PUT THAT IN THE NEWSLETTER. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT, I'M SORRY. 
          I HAVE TO HIT ON EARLIER SINCE YOU HAVE A TEXT TO BE SOMEWHERE AT. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S THE LAST COMMENT  NEEDS ASSESSMENT NEXT? UM, I DO I HAVE, I'M GOING TO GO OLD SCHOOL. 
          UH, IF YOU WILL, UH, GIVE ME A SECOND HERE TAKING ONE DOWN AND PASS IT AROUND AND I'LL SEND OUT, OKAY. 
          I'LL SEND THIS OUT ELECTRONICALLY AFTER TONIGHT, BUT THIS WAS THE BEST WAY TO GET US ALL IN ONE PLACE AT ONE TIME WITHOUT ANYBODY GETTING AHEAD. 
          UM, AND THEN I'LL ALSO SEND, UH, YOLANDA, I'LL SEND YOU THE WORD AS WELL. 
          THAT HAS, UM, MINOR LOCATIONS. 
          SO JUST THE GENERAL SENSE, UH, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA TO DOCUMENT ANYTHING IN GREEN IS NEW CONTENT BLACK, UH, WAS ORIGINAL CONTENT AND RED IS EDITED OR ALTERED CONTENT. 
          UM, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT, UM, FROM THE RE INTERVIEW, UH, PAGE TWO AND THREE, UH, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU DID UPON BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AND ADVOCACY ADVOCACY COMMITTEE DEFINITIONS. 
          UM, SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          UM, PAGE THREE, THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS HAVE, I'M GETTING RED IN THE MARGIN. 
          AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE WITH THE COMMISSION AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COMMENT IS COMING FROM. 
          UM, THE, UH, THE COMMENTS ARE RELATED TO THE INCLUSION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS PART OF IT RFQ. 
          AND, UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH HAVING THAT ADDED AND I WANT TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU. 
          UM, FOR THIS STANDPOINT, I THINK THAT IT MIGHT DETRACT FROM RESPONSE AND HERE'S WHY THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS BUILT ON WHAT COMES OUT OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          THE ISSUE IS AS YOU'RE BUILDING THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO ASK SOMEONE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO WHY DO YOU GIVE THE RESPONSES RFQ LIKE ABSURD IS THAT WHEN YOU NARROW DOWN CANDIDATES, UH, TO PASS ON TO CITY COUNCIL, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EFFECTIVELY PRICE QUOTE, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND TJ PLAN, WHICH THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETED THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          SO WHAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IS, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY, WHO'S GOT A BETTER PRICE AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET A REALLY GOOD NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          BUT WHEN THEY REALIZE THEY'RE SHORT ON RESOURCES, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LESS THAN STELLAR STRATEGIC PLAN BECAUSE THEY'RE OKAY. 
          THE PRICE STRUCTURE WORK FOR THAT WHEN THEY GET AFFIRMED, PROBABLY GOOD FOR, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO OVERHEAD RELEVANCE TO THE LOW BIDDER, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE PLANNING ON HAVING A ROBUST NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND A QUALITY STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          BUT IF THEY'RE IN COMPETITION WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT UNINTENTIONALLY BY BIDDING LOW, WHILE THAT'S GOING TO THROW OFF, YOU GET SELECTED. 
          AND THEN I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 
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SOME FIRMS WHO MAY NOT RESPOND TO THE RFQ SIMPLY FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. 
          SO EVEN IF THEY PRESENT A PROPOSAL, THEN THE RFQ THAT LOOKS ACCEPTABLE, THE COMMISSION AND DID THE COUNCIL, THEY WILL KNOW WHAT TO BID ON BECAUSE THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT STRUCTURE DOESN'T EXIST TO BUILD THE STRATEGIC PLAN AROUND. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO BASICALLY WHEN YOU'RE ASKING THE ARCHITECT, EXPLAINING WHY THEY SHOULD BUILD IT, YOUR HOUSE, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO BUILD A HOUSE, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WHAT'S MY BUDGET. 
          WELL, YOU'RE THE ARCHITECT YOU TELL ME, RIGHT? SO SOME ARCHITECTS THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND VILLAGE A $25,000 BACK, OR SOME ARCHITECTS ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND ARE GOING TO GO TO THE $7 MILLION AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS. 
          SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE THAT THE COMMISSION LOOK AT HIGHLIGHTING THE OUTCOME OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR THE OUTCOME OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE THE FOUNDATION FOR A PART, WHICH IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'M HERE TO OFFER ADVICE. 
          UM, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO FOLLOW THAT ADVICE. 
          I RECOGNIZE THAT THE CONDITION IS SOME SIGNIFICANT GOALS THAT IT'S OUT TO TRY AND ACCOMPLISH. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THOSE COMMENTS TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          SO, UM, ON THE NEXT PAGE, NO COMMENT ABOUT THAT. 
          SO THE GOAL IS NOT ONLY DO WE WANT TO GATHER THE DATA, BUT WE WANT, LIKE I SAID, TO USE THAT DATA TO DRIVE A PLAN FOR THE CITY THAT'S FROM THE TEACHING DIRECTION AND IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, WELL, I KNOW THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BOTH OF THOSE IN HERE TO MARRY THE TWO, SO THAT YOU HAVE THIS SAY CONSULTANT WHO IS DOING THE DATA ASSESSMENT, THEN TAKE THAT DATA, TURN IT AROUND AND TURN IT INTO A STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO THOSE WHO ARE WELL-VERSED WITH THE DIVERSITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND D I STRATEGY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE. 
          NOW THEY NOW IN, IN INCORRECTLY TOO, WITH THIS, BECAUSE WE WERE, UM, MAYBE THE RFQ, WE WERE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT QUALIFICATIONS, RIGHT? SO ARE THEY ABLE TO DO THIS? SO WE REALLY WANT A FIRM THAT CAN DO BOTH. 
          AND WE WANT THAT SAME FIRM TO DO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND TAKE THAT AND TURN IT OVER INTO A STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO WE'RE ASKING FOR QUALIFIED FIRMS WHO CAN DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IS THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TOGETHER, CORRECT THE OUTCOME OF IDENTIFYING THE WE'LL CALL IT THE THREE QUALIFIED FIRMS THEN THAT EACH FIRM WOULD BE ASKED TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO THEN DO THE WORK THAT YOU DECIDED THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO DO. 
          AND SO THERE WOULD NOT BE AN ADDITIONAL RFP, WHICH IS THE MORE TECHNICAL DATA. 
          THIS IS BASICALLY, OKAY. 
          WE'VE ASKED YOU TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO AND WHY THESE THINGS MATTER TO US. 
          WE DON'T PARTICULARLY CARE ABOUT THE PROCESS. 
          SO EMOTIONS, WE CARE ABOUT WHAT THE OUTPUT IS GOING TO BE RELATIVE TO THE QUALIFICATIONS. 
          AND SO EVERY FIRM WILL BE DIFFERENT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. 
          AND THEY'LL ALL HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE DIFFERENT WHEN IT COMES TO PRICING, WHEN THAT'S LOOKED AT AND EVALUATED BY THE COMMISSION. 
          AND WHEN IT'S LOOKED AT AND EVALUATED BY THE COUNCIL, I RECOGNIZE THAT ANY FIRM THAT DOES THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT HAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DATA AND WOULD MOST LIKELY PRODUCE A BETTER STRATEGIC PLAN THAN A SECOND FOR YOU MIGHT COME IN AND BE TASKED TO DO THE SAME WORK. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD TWO PROJECTS INTO ONE THAT ARE SEQUENTIALLY RELATED, YOU MAY HAVE ISSUES GETTING THE QUALITY PRODUCT IN THE HEAD. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          I'M NOT ADVOCATING, DON'T DO IT. 
          I'M NOT ADVOCATING TO DO IT. 
          I JUST WANT YOU TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT CONCERN FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU WOULD EITHER DO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT FIRST IN ORDER FOR THE, THE, UH, ENDED UP PROPERLY SCOPE OUT STRATEGIC PLAN 
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ACTIVITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WHAT THE SCOPE DOWN IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT WHAT'S REQUIRED TO KNOW WHAT TO DO REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO RE SCOPE IT RIGHT. 
          WITHOUT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT TEAM. 
          SO, YEAH, SO TO MY, SO, UM, OKAY, SO LET'S IN A GENERAL SENSE. 
          SO LET'S SAY THAT, UM, THERE'S A LEVEL OF, UH, RACISM AS A PRACTICAL ELEMENT, AND THEN THERE'S THE PROCEDURE ELEMENT OF RACISM. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, IF THERE IS A HIGH PERCEIVED LEVEL AND LOW ACTUAL LEVEL, THAT SETS UP A STRATEGIC PLAN, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN IF THEY'RE OPPOSITE. 
          AND THAT SETS UP A DIFFERENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IF BOTH ARE EXTREMELY HIGH, WE WON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION UNTIL THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS DONE. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONSULTANT IS GOING TO BE ON THE PASSIONATE, OR I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ADD MY PANTS, AND I'M GONNA SAY IT'S HIGH AND THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BID HIGH. 
          AND THEN WHEN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS DONE, OH, WELL IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO DID YOU GUYS EVER DO AN RFQ OR A NEEDS ASSESSMENT? YOU BETTER GET THOSE RESPONSES BACK. 
          AND BASICALLY I MADE THE BASIC 12 AND THEN CHOOSE THE VENDOR THAT THE LEGAL WORK EVEN NEEDS ASSESSMENT DONE. 
          AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY WE THEN ISSUE ANOTHER ART QUEUE, HAVE WAIVERS, UM, CORRECTED ON. 
          AND IN THIS INSTANCE, YOU COULD ISSUE AN RFP  TO GET THESE SPECIFIC COSTS RIGHT UP FRONT, RATHER THAN THEY'RE QUALIFIED, BUT NOW YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY WIND UP UNDER THE SCENARIO THAT YOU MOST LIKELY WILL END UP WITH THE SAME VENDOR WHO COMPLETED THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT ONLY FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS HOW IT WORKS, BUT JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. 
          I RECOGNIZE THAT THE COMMISSION STILL NEEDS TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND SOME DELIBERATION ABOUT THE DOCUMENT. 
          BUT, UM, I DID WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, ON PAGE FOUR, UH, WHAT IS UNAVAILABLE WAS JUST A REVIEW OF THOSE BULLET POINTS IN THOSE REQUESTS. 
          IT DOES APPEAR THAT AT LEAST TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND READING THAT INFORMATION, THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC OBJECTIVE FOR THE DATA THAT'S BEING CALLED OUT, WHAT IT'S TO BE USED FOR. 
          IT JUST SAYS, HEY, WE WANT TO KNOW THIS DATA, BUT IT DOESN'T CALL OUT HOW THAT DATA IS GIVING YOU A APPLY. 
          IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          THE OTHER POINTS OF LOVE IT, CLEARLY SAY WE LOOK AT THE DATA, TELL US THIS, REVIEW THE INFORMATION TO TELL US THAT, UM, AF BREAKS DOWN DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO I MIGHT HAVE MISREAD IT. 
          UM, BUT I MIGHT NOT HAVE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          UM, PAGE FIVE, THIS IS REALLY THE, AND THE MAJOR COMMENT I WANT TO CALL OUT TO THE, UM, TO THE CONDITION. 
          AND THEN IT IS, UM, THIS KIND OF APPEARS, UM, AND THIS IS WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF, UH, UH, AN EQUITY ACTION PLAN, INTERNAL AND CIVIL REVIEW DOCUMENTS, OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. 
          UH, THIS KIND OF COMES ACROSS AS WELL, BY THE WAY. 
          UM, NOT THAT THIS SHOULDN'T BE DONE OR NOT THAT THIS CAN'T BE DONE, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS VERY EXTERNAL, RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO KNOW OUTSIDE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING, WHAT THEY BELIEVE, HOW THEY BEHAVE, HOW THEY INTERACT. 
          AND THEN WE WANT TO KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          THEN IT WILL, BY THE WAY, UM, I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS COULD BE A COST DRIVER, MIGHT BE CURRENTLY THAT TO THE INITIAL GOAL, THE INITIAL OBJECTIVE, UM, NOT TO SAY THAT THIS WORK SHOULD BE DONE, WHAT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT. 
          UM, IS THIS NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, OR CAN THIS BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANOTHER OBJECTIVE OR GOAL OF THE COMMISSION? SO FOR INSTANCE, MS. SOMEONE AND I WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION, UM, NOT TOO LONG AGO, AFTER A MEETING, AND SHE HAD MADE A COMMENT ABOUT HOW THE CONDITION HAS AN INTEREST IN OUR HUMAN RE ARGUMENT RESOURCES FUNCTIONS THAT ARE HIRING FUNCTIONS AND HOW WE OPERATE AS AN ORGANIZATION, IF THAT IS LIKE, AS SOME WOULD CALL IT PRIORITY TWO PRIORITY FOR WHEREVER THAT IS ON THE COMMISSION'S LIST. 
          IS THIS AN ITEM THAT CAN BE PULLED OUT FROM THIS STUDY AND MORE APPROPRIATELY APPLIED THAT JUST AGAIN, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, UM, AND REVIEWING AND EVALUATING WHAT YOU WANT THIS DOCUMENT TO BE GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I REVIEWED AND WHAT THAT DOCUMENT, UM, PEER REVIEW PRETTY GOOD. 
          UM, THERE WERE OTHER, NO OTHER ISSUES, CONCERNS THAT I HAD WITH RESPECT TO ANY OF THE CONTENT OF THE DOCUMENT. 
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UM, IT'S BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY WITH RESPECT TO, UM, COMPONENTS THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR. 
          SO WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IS WHATEVER FILE CONTENT THAT EMISSION WANTS TO HAVE IN THE DOCUMENT. 
          AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, RUN THAT OVER TO THE WATER RECORD FOR REFINED REVIEWS, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT OUT. 
          SO, UM, ALL IN ALL, IT'S PRETTY GOOD DOCUMENT, READY TO GO. 
          UM, I DID LISTEN TO MYSELF IN HERE AS THE, UH, POINT OF CONTACT IN THE RECIPIENT. 
          I DO NOT NEED TO BE IF THE CONDITION, BUT LIKE SOMEONE ELSE ON STAFF TO DO THAT, BUT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE I PUT THE DOCUMENT TOGETHER AND IT WAS MOSTLY MOTIVATED CONTENT, THAT'S WHAT I LISTEN TO MYSELF. 
          BUT IF IT NEEDS TO BE KATIE PULLED INTO AT THE FRONT DESK, WHEREVER THE COMMISSIONER'S MOST COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PERSON, SORRY. 
          AND THEN THE CHEWED ONE, I PROMISE I'LL SEND OUT A PDF VERSION OF THIS TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, SO YOU CAN HAVE THIS ELECTRONICALLY. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, I'LL ALSO SEND YOU THAT PDF THAT HAS A LINE MARKED UP THE PDF DOCUMENT THAT HAS ALL MY TRACK CHANGES IN IT. 
          SO YOU CAN ADD, SUBTRACT, MULTIPLY, OR DIVIDE, WHATEVER ELSE YOU'D LIKE ME TO. 
          SO THE DOCUMENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS, FOR THIS AROUND PRETTY QUICKLY DISCUSS THOSE KEY AREAS AND POSSIBLY BREAKING OUT ASSESSMENT AND STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          THAT'S A TOUGH ONE. 
          I MEAN, I'M THINKING FROM A CONSULTANT STANDPOINT, A DEI CONSULTANT FOR ME TO DO A NEEDS, I'M SORRY ME TO COME IN ON THE BACK END AND DO A STRATEGIC PLAN AFTER SOMEONE HAS ALREADY DONE THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR DATA IS. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAPTURED THAT THEY CAPTURED EVERYTHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO CAPTURE TO DEVELOP A DEI PLAN. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IDEALLY IT WOULD BE TO GET THE BEST INFORMATION. 
          IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT THE SAME COMPANY. 
          AND THERE'S NOW, SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S NO, IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT AND SEPARATE THEM? SO ANY WAY THAT, THAT THERE ARE PROVISIONS WITHIN ORDINANCES AND IN THE STATUTES THAT HAVE HOWARD COUNCIL TO HIRE PROFESSIONALS, EXCLUSION, A FORMAL RFP OR RFQ PROCESS, BUT I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO DICTATE THAT COUNCIL DO THAT COUNCIL ISN'T IN A POSITION TO MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL THEY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO REVIEW. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE BENEFITS TO RUNNING PROCESS THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE IT STRUCTURED WITHIN THE PROPOSAL, AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, THERE ARE ADVANTAGES TO DOING IT THAT WAY. 
          YOU POINTED THAT OUT. 
          THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL DRAWBACKS TO DOING IT THAT WAY, WHICH YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. 
          THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S A RIGHT ANSWER OR A WRONG ANSWER. 
          YOU'RE TAKING RISKS EITHER WAY. 
          IT'S JUST STARTING TAKING GREATER RISKS. 
          WE'RE ALREADY CHANGING SMALLER RISKS, BUT THERE'S NOT A WRONG ANSWER HERE, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. 
          IT'S WHATEVER THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE DOING. 
          AND IF THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE WITH TRYING TO TAKE THE LARGEST BUYOUT FROM THE APPLE ON THE FIRST TIME, THE FIRST GO ROUND, IF THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, AND IF THAT'S NOT A WRONG ANSWER, BUT JUST ENOUGH THAT THEY AND CHOOSE YOU CAN'T TURN AROUND AND SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT AWARD TO THAT PARTICULAR PERSON TO HAVE ASSESSMENT AT THE END OF THE PROCESS OF COUNCIL WAS INCLINED TO DO SO. 
          THERE IS AN ABILITY FOR THEM TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS, HEY, FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS, WE BELIEVE THAT BIDDING IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE WANT TO DO A DIRECT SOLE SOURCE OF MORE. 
          WE'VE DONE THAT FOR OTHER PROJECTS. 
          WE'VE DONE THAT FOR OTHER PROFESSIONAL VENDORS, BUT THAT HAS TO BE A DECISION THAT COUNCIL 
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MIX. 
          THAT'S NOT ONE THAT I CAN COMPEL THEM TO DO THROUGH THE CREATION OF THIS DOCUMENT. 
          THAT'S NOT VIEWED AS THE COMMISSION. 
          I MEAN, THEY COULD TURN AROUND AND SAY, YEAH, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR WHO SELECTED IT TURNS OUT TO BE LESS THAN STELLAR. 
          WELL, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BID FOR THE RFQ IF THE WORK PRODUCT AND THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS NOT MEETING EXPECTATIONS, OR IF IT NEEDS EXPECTATIONS, BUT IT'S AN ELONGATED PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, THERE, THERE IS AN ABILITY TO DO IT, BUT COUNSELORS WANT DESIRE AND STAFF'S ABILITY TO RECOMMEND IT'S ALL CONTINGENT ON WHAT THE PRODUCT IS THAT WE GET FROM NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          SO AGAIN, NO WRONG ANSWER. 
          NO RIGHT ANSWER. 
          JUST ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR NEW BUSINESS ETL DATA TRACKING IN HIGHER PROCESSES FOR THIS SUPPOSED TO BE ADDED TO THEM THERE. 
          I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE KATIE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. 
          IF THAT IS EXISTING. 
          I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF OUR INCEPTION OF THE COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT, DO THE CHATTY YIELD DATA IN OUR HIRING PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE. 
          UM, AND ALSO THIS IS FOOD FOR ONE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION OR REPORTING IN EEO REPORTING. 
          I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY WE'RE NOT TRACKING THAT. 
          SO I WILL TABLE THAT AND SHE SHOULD BE AT THE NEXT MEETING AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT THEN, BECAUSE I WAS HOPING SHE WOULD CONSUME INFORMATION. 
          SO IN SHORT, I CAN SHOW YOU THAT WE DO NOT, UM, WHY THAT EXISTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'D WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S A PRACTICE THAT PREDATED CASE WITH THE CITY AS WELL. 
          UM, THERE ISN'T ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY NOT UNWILLING TO DO IT. 
          UM, WE WAS JUST NEEDING THE TIME TO DEVELOP THE APPROPRIATE POLICY PROCEDURE TO DO THAT AND TO IMPLEMENT THAT POLICY AND PROCEDURE ONCE IT WAS INCLUDED. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE MORE THAN OPEN TO AFTER DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION WITH KATIE. 
          I COULDN'T HAVE PUT TOGETHER HOW MUCH ERIC MISSION, YOU KNOW, MAKE THOSE COMMENTS IN THE COMMISSIONER, SOME SENTENCES OF WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE, WHETHER OR NOT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY I SHOULD SAY THAT KIND OF DATA. 
          DO YOU, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE US KIND OF JUST AS SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT AROUND IT AND OUR NEXT MEETING? UM, WE'RE NOT DOING IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT DOING IT. 
          IS THIS SOMETHING THAT A PURVIEW FOR US TO DO? I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR INFORMATION OR SURE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF KATIE HAS THAT INFORMATION, BUT I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ASK HER IF SHE DOES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO WE'LL TABLE THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, WOULD THAT MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I WORK IN A, MORE OF A PUBLIC INSTITUTION AND THEN EDUCATION WISE, WE HAVE TO TRACK THAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW FOR US TO DO THAT WHEN WE DO OUR THING. 
          SO IS THERE, UM, CAUSE WE FOLLOW TITLE NINE AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO WE HAVE TO TRACK A LOT OF THIS STUFF AND DO SEARCH COMMITTEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON OUR HIRING, LIKE EQUITY, IS THAT NOT REQUIRED BY A CITY OR ANOTHER PUBLIC INSTITUTION AND HOWARD INSTANCE? I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR FUNDING SOURCES HAD THE SAME OBLIGATIONS AS YOUR FUNDING SOURCES, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY YOU DON'T HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO IT. 
          UM, TYPICALLY CHOSE NUTS TO DO IT IS TO SAY THAT YOU ARE BLIND TO THE ISSUE IN A PROCESS AND THAT YOU WERE MAKING YOUR DECISIONS BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS WHY THAT DECISION WAS MADE HERE. 
          I WOULD JUST HAVE TO JUST, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS REQUIRED BY US FEDERALLY FUNDED GRANT FUNDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          WELL, THERE, THERE ARE SOME LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AROUND IT TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE TO HIRE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 
          THERE'S SOME HR COMPONENTS WHERE I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT IF IT MAY BE, I COULD BE UPON THAT DISCUSSION. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT IF WE CAN JUST BRING BACK THAT INFORMATION, UM, AND, AND THAT'S ALWAYS SEPARATE 
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FROM YOUR APPLICATION. 
          I MEAN, IT'S IN THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY POIGNANTLY STATED THAT THIS IS NOT PAIRED WITH THE APPLICATION WITH A JOB APPLICATION. 
          SO ANY DATA THAT AN APPLICANT IS PROVIDING IS NOT FAIR FOR THE APPLICATION, SO IT'S STILL BLIND. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I, I RECOGNIZE, I RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE LAW AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT WHY WE DO IT ONLY FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT OUR PROCESS AND OUR PRODUCER, FOR INSTANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE STILL REQUIRE AN APPLICATION, A HARD COPY APPLICATION. 
          SO IF I'M GOING TO MAIL IN MY APPLICATION, MOST LIKELY IF I'M FILLING OUT MY DISCLOSURE FORMS, THAT'S PROBABLY COMING FROM THE SAME ENVELOPE. 
          SO, UM, INNOVATING IN THE REGION, WHICH WAS, YEAH, IN ALL PRACTICALITY, THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATE. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS THAT IN THE MAJORITY OF INSTANCES THAT ARE COMING IN TOGETHER. 
          AND SO SINCE IT'S NOT MEETING THE INTENT OF THAT PROVISION, AND IF IT'S NOT AN OBLIGATE REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY TO DO IT, THEN MAYBE THAT WASN'T A DECISION TO NOT DO IT. 
          SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHY THAT HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT THEY'RE ALL PROTOCOLS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT THAT DATA IN AN ANONYMOUS WAY, BASED ON SOME OF THE PROCESSES THAT WE UTILIZE THROUGH OUR LEGISLATIVE PROCESS ON MANAGING OUR PARK PERSONNEL, ET CETERA. 
          I'M SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE KATIE CAN TALK TO. 
          YEAH, THAT'D BE GOOD. 
          IT'D BE GOOD IF YOU COULD PICK APART OTHER CITIES TOO, BECAUSE MOST OF THE OTHER CITIES AROUND US, I KNOW IF YOU ARE CHECK THERE'S, THEY, THEY ARE CHECKING THE DATA. 
          SO THEY'RE DOING SOMEHOW AND THEY'RE STILL TAKING PAPER APPLICATIONS TOO. 
          SO SURE. 
          THERE ARE, LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS THAT WE CAN GO ABOUT DOING IT. 
          I WOULD AGREE THAT YES, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES AROUND OUR ISSUE. 
          OUR ISSUE IS JUST A BIT, ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? SO HOW DISCUSSION MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY AND PROVIDE WHATEVER INFORMATION WE CAN ABOUT WHY WOULD YOU PUT THE WAY THAT WE DO IT? AND THEN, UH, TALK WITH KATIE HAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS IT, FAIR HIRING PRACTICES. 
          AND IT ALSO PROTECTS OUR CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE YOUR EMAIL, UH, THE SPONSORSHIP LETTERS, PRETTY SIMPLE. 
          UM, YOLANDA, THE SPONSORSHIP LETTER THAT I SENT DOES HAVE BOTH OF OUR NAMES. 
          I DID TALK TO SCOTT . 
          SCOTT DID SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY FOR US TO SEND A LETTER OUT AS A COMMISSION MEMBER. 
          AND AS LONG AS THE CHECK IS MADE PAYABLE TO THE CITY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR, CAN YOU GUYS OPEN UP YOUR EMAIL REAL QUICK, JUST TO MAKE SURE    UM, BUT ON THAT LAST PAGE WHERE YOU SEE THAT THE TEAR OFF THAT THEY RETURNED TO THE CITY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT YOUR NAME THERE JUST TO SHOW THAT YOU WERE THE ONE WHO SOLICITED THE SPONSORSHIP. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT COMES BACK, YOU KNOW, STILL COME TO KATIE, IT'LL HAVE YOUR NAME ON IT, SHE CAN RECORD IT AND IT CAN COME TO US SO THAT WE CAN RECORD IT. 
          AND IF WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE SOMEONE FOR THE DONUT, FOR THE SPONSORSHIP, WE CAN STILL DO THAT IN A PUBLIC MEETING. 
          UM, BUT CHECKS, OBVIOUSLY SCOTT SAID THEY GOTTA BE MADE OUT TO THE CITY, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT WE CAN HAVE OUR NAME ONE BETTER, ONE OF THE LETTER AND IT CAN BE ON THE LITTLE OFF. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SORRY. 
          IF YOU CANNOT OPEN IT FOR SOME REASON, LET ME KNOW SO THAT I CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DR. 
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BROUGHT INTO, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ? SO YES, WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY SEEING HOW WE CAN BECOME TAX EXEMPT AS A ORGANIZATION SO THAT WE CAN ACCEPT SPONSORSHIPS DONATIONS. 
          WE CAN WRITE GRANTS TO DO MORE THAN WORK THAN WE WANT TO DO. 
          THE LOUD DIRECTOR IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF VERIFYING THING. 
          HE HAS NOT GOTTEN TO THAT YET TO SAY, YAY OR NAY. 
          WE CAN DO THAT. 
          AND SO I GUESS WE DIDN'T TABLE FURTHER DISCUSSION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. 
          HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEN AS A COMMISSION, WE WOULD NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK THAT, UM, BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND IF THAT IS SOMETHING NEW THAT THE COMMISSION, BUT ONCE BEFORE, BUT BASED ON THE DATA OR NOT . 
          SO ORIGINALLY I ASKED THE LAUNDRY WORKERS TO SEE IF WE COULD BE A PLAZA GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION, OR WE COULD BE BECAUSE TECHNICALLY WE, ALTHOUGH WE ARE EMISSION, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY CITY STAFF. 
          SO HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE, BUT HE THOUGHT THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT HE NEEDED TO LOOK INTO IT. 
          BOTH DID A FIVE OH ONE C THREE WITH THEIR DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMITTEE, BUT IT'S THE SEPARATE, THIS IS SEPARATE ENTITY AND THEY HAVE MEMBERSHIP FROM THE CITY RESIDENTS. 
          SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          HAVE THAT AS A NATION, AS A COMMISSION, THEN THERE MAY BE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD HAVE A SEPARATE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITH SEPARATE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL BE A SEPARATE ENTITY. 
          UM, BUT WE WOULD STILL HAVE SOME, WE WOULD STILL HAVE SOME GOVERNANCE AND GUIDANCE AND ADVISING FOR THEM. 
          THEY WILL BE SETTLED  TO ACCOMPLISH CERTAIN GOALS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL BE KIND OF GUESSING NOW. 
          SO THERE WAS STILL BE SOME, THERE STILL WOULD BE SOME GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT I SHOULD SAY. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT GETS SKETCHY. 
          AND SO HE HAS TO REALLY LOOK INTO THAT AND LOOK INTO ALL OF THE PROS AND CONS OF DOING IT EITHER WAY AND IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE. 
          AND WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, WE MAY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER BODY. 
          THAT'S GOING TO POSSIBLY DIVERT FOCUS. 
          YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE WANT IT TO STILL HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT OVER SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO MAYBE IT'S MORE AS TO MAYBE IT'S NOT, BUT I THINK IF IT OPENS UP AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WRITE GRANTS AND TO DO MORE OF THE WORK THAT WE WANT TO DO, WE SHOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER IT. 
          IF IT LOOKS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD DO IT, MAYBE IT'S TOO MUCH EXTRA WORK. 
          MAYBE IT'S TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE DO IN THE FUTURE, EVEN LOOK HERE. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY SO WE CAN DO MORE. 
          SO YOU NEED MORE LIKE MORE EVENTS  WE CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS RIGHT NOW FOR MANY GRANTS. 
          WE'RE NOT OLD BECAUSE WE ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE CITY AND THEIR BUDGET AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BECAUSE WE'RE SITTING IN THIS ENTITY. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR QUITE A FEW GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE CAN DO. 
          AND BEING A FIREWALL WITH RECEIPT OPENS UP THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE GRANTS. 
          NO, TO SAY, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SAMPLES, YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT, RIGHT. 
          SO WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES  YEAH, BUT SEE AS AN EXAMPLE YEAH. 
          LIKE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME STAINS THAT COULD BE DONE UNDER THAT 
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IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, BUT IT'S JUST KNOWING WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE. 
          AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TAKE, LIKE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ARTS AND CULTURE GRANTS THAT WOULD HELP US TO BE ABLE TO LIKE THIS MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          IF WE COULD'VE GOTTEN A BRAND, WE COULD HAVE GOT $50,000, YOU KNOW, FOR A GRANT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT BIGGER AND BETTER. 
          SO MAYBE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO THIS YEAR WILL AFFECT THE NEXT YEAR'S EVENTS. 
          UM, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ONCE KNOW MORE ABOUT, MAYBE WE SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS NOW, BUT MAYBE IN TWO YEARS OR TWO THREE-YEAR PLAN, MAYBE WE LOOK AT IT. 
          UM, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP FRONT OF MIND BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO DO MORE AND HE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND WITH THE LEGALITIES AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          SO HE, HE'S GOING TO INVESTIGATE THAT. 
          AND WHAT'S THE BENEFIT. 
          SO WE CAN ALL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE THERE'S TAX CONSEQUENCES. 
          YOU HAVE TO REPORT THAT, DO YOU HAVE A TAX RETURN? AND LIKE, YOU'RE THE CITY YOU GUYS ARE UNDER OUR UMBRELLA. 
          SO REALIZE MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN . 
          SO, AND THAT'S WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A REALLY A LAYOUT OF THE FINISHES OF THE  WOULD DO THE, WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE FIRST AND FOREMOST, OUR MISSION AND OUR GOALS. 
          AND SO WE CAN BRING IN MORE MONEY, BUT WHAT IF WE GET FUNDED BY THE CITY, EITHER HAVING HAVE COUNCIL, LIKE THAT WOULD BE  DONATION WITH THAT. 
           I MEAN, ARE WE ASKING THAT IF THIS PERSON THAT'S PREGNANT, NOT TO US TO DEFINE ALL  CAN, THEY MIGHT BE A SPECIAL BABY BASED ON PRACTICE. 
          I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF YOU SEPARATED AS FIVE OH ONE C3, YOU'D BE SIMILAR TO THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT YOU COULD WORK WITH THE CITY, BUT YEAH, THEY ENDED UP NOW AS A, OR AS A COMMISSION, YOU GUYS CAN SEE GRANTS AND WE CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS. 
          WE CAN DO IT FOR PARKS AND REC. 
          THERE ARE CERTAIN GRADES THAT CAUSE WE TRIED FOR ARTS AND SOME OF THE DIVERSITY AND SOME OF THOSE ARE, ARE SET SPECIFICALLY FOR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          YES, IT IS NOT CONSIDERED A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND NOW MAKES A BIGGER, ALSO HAS A  BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE THINGS, A LOT OF THOSE KINDS OF GRANTS ARE GRASS ROOT ORGANIZATION GRANTS. 
          SO THEY, THEY, UM, SO THEY DON'T LOOK TO DONATE THOSE FUNDS TO MUNICIPALITIES. 
          SO THEY SEE US AS A, AS A BIGGER, THEN YOU HAVE THESE RESOURCES,  CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY AND TYPE OF THOSE GRANTS ARE SET UP SPECIFICALLY FOR, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          AND THEN ALSO WE HAD PUSHED SPONSORSHIP BEING A FIVE AND ONE TO THREE SEPARATE. 
          IT'S NOT A SPONSORSHIP, IT'S A DONATION. 
          SO THEY DIDN'T GIVE IT AS A TEXT RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY DO A SPONSORSHIP. 
          IT'S NOT  THEY GET EXPOSURE OUT THERE. 
           OKAY. 
          SO, UM, CAN YOU BRING BACK TO US SOMETHING THAT, UH, WHATEVER TIME YOU DOWNLOAD MCDONALD'S IS TO YOU IN A WRITTEN FORM FOR US TO VISUALIZE AND SEE? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM OKAY. 
          RECOMMENDATIONS COUNCIL. 
          WE HAVE TRIED THOSE. 
          WE HAVE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM REFORMER. 
          WE HAVE ADVOCACY EDUCATION. 
           COUNCIL MEMBER  IT'S A PROCESS. 
          THANKS ROSS.
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