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THE MEETING

[ AGENDA MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road March 24, 2021 6:00 P.M. ]

OF THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION COME TO WATER.

I SAID IT PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LOCATION.

THANK YOU.

LET US PRAY.

DEAR LORD.

AGAIN, TODAY WE CHOOSE TO HONOR OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS OR THE MAN AND WOMEN WHO GAVE OF THEMSELVES WHEN THEY WERE CALLED UPON TO SERVE AND PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.

WE ASK FATHER THAT YOU BLESS THEM FOR THEIR UNSELFISH SERVICE AND FOR THE DEDICATION THEY HAVE SHOWN TO PRESERVE OUR FREEDOMS, OUR SAFETY IN OUR COUNTRY'S HERITAGE, PLEASE FATHER BLESS THEM ABUNDANTLY FOR THE HARDSHIPS THEY FACE FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MAKE AND FOR THEIR MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO AMERICA'S VICTORY, OVER TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION.

WE RESPECT THEM.

WE THANK THEM.

WE ARE PROUD OF THEM AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL WATCH OVER THEM.

THESE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE.

LORD, PLEASE GUIDE US IN OUR COMMISSION ENDEAVORS TODAY AND BLESS ALL THOSE MILITARY AND VETERANS WHOM WE HONOR WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS.

WE PRAY IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN.

THANK YOU.

THANKS RAY.

LET'S NOW HAVE ROLL CALL MR. BRENNER HERE.

MR. DRAWER.

MR. GRIGGS HERE, LET'S DRAW.

MR. LYONS, MR. MR. LASTLY, HERE, THIS IS A SOLID, NOT HERE.

SHE'S NOT HERE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO, EXCUSE ME? YES, YOUR ROLE IS DONE.

ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE WILL PROVE TO MINUTES OF FROM FEBRUARY 24TH, IT HAD BEEN SENT OUT BY ELECTRONIC MEANS.

WE ALSO HAVE IT.

UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE NO COMMENTS AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

THE MOTION.

AND SECOND MINUTES IS APPROVAL.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS TODAY.

ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY, GOOD.

WE'LL MOVE ON.

ANY CITIZENS COMMENTS, CITIZEN, YOU HAVE A COMMENT.

CAN I JUST DO A QUICK BRAG? SO, UH, TWO WEEKENDS AGO, MY WIFE AND I TOOK MY YOUNGEST DOWN TO, UH, AUGUSTA, GEORGIA TO FORT GORDON TO START HIS, UH, HIS OFFICER CAREER IN THE CYBER CORPS.

SO WE'RE PRETTY PUMPED ABOUT IT, PRETTY EXCITED.

SO WE WISH YOU BEST LUCK.

EXCELLENT ARMY CYBER COOL, OR, OKAY.

OKAY, GOOD.

GOOD.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE US CYBER COMMAND.

SO VERY WORTHWHILE BRECK.

I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT LATER SINCE I WAS IN THE BUSINESS.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT AN APP MOVE INTO THE OLD BUSINESS OF FIRST THING UP IS A VETERAN MEMORIAL PROJECT, FEW THINGS THERE.

AS WE KNOW, NUMBER ONE, WE LOST TWO VERY PROMINENT MEMBERS FOR THAT PROJECT.

ONE BEING, UH, MR. ROB SCHUMER AND THE OTHER WOULD BE IN DEPTH AND THEY WERE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO, UH, TO THAT, UH, TO THAT PROJECT.

HOWEVER, WE ALL BE IN THE MILITARY.

WE KNOW WHAT WE DO.

WE CLOSE THE RANKS AND MOVE FORWARD AND THAT'S JUST WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO, UH, TODAY BILL AND I MET WITH, UH, MIKE AND MR. .

YEAH.

UM, AND WE TALKED

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A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, THE PROJECT, UM, MR. FOSS AND I'M UPSET.

WHAT'S HIS FIRST NAME? SCOTT.

UM, SCOTT WAS, UM, WELL BRIEFED ON IT CAUSE HE WORKED WITH ROB ON IT.

UM, MOST OF THE TIME HE KNEW ALL ABOUT THE, UH, THE CONTRACTING AND UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT, UM, THERE IS SORT OF A DISCUSSION GOING ON, UH, ON SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT, UH, LOOKED AT, UH, FOR USE.

UM, AND HE'S GOING TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON THAT AND UM, COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW WHAT, YES.

YOU RAISE YOUR HAND.

YOU MEAN NEXT MEETING? ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

IN FACT, WE MAY HAVE SOME EMAIL TRAFFIC GOING ON THEN AS HE FINDS OUT WHAT HE'S, HE'S RESEARCHING.

UH, I ASKED HIM TO UPDATE US AS HE GOES ALONG BECAUSE I TOLD HIM WE'D HAVE TO BE OUT IN FRONT OF THIS BECAUSE, UM, IF THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT GETS OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, IT MIGHT NOT BE FUN.

UM, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S SAYING, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT DO YOU TALK ABOUT? WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT? UM, AND I THINK RIGHT NOW WE JUST NEED TO LET HIM DO HIS RESEARCH AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

UM, AS HE RESEARCHES IT.

UM, I'M GONNA TALK TO MR. I'M HOPING TO SAY HIS NAME CORRECTLY, CORE SATE, COURSERA, I BELIEVE, UH, OUT OF THE HOSPICE WHO HAS A MEMORIAL SITE WITH SOME THINGS THAT VERY CLOSELY RESEMBLE WHAT WE HAVE AND JUST WANT TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY DID THAT, UH, AS PART OF THIS, UM, LET'S SEE, UM, THE PROPOSAL CAME IN UNDER BUDGET, BUT WE'RE PRETTY SURE, LIKE MOST PROJECTS THEY'LL PROBABLY BE SOME CHANGES AND THINGS MADE THAT MAY CAUSE IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WHAT WE HAVE IS WORLD-CLASS AND IF WE CONTINUE DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE GOING TO ALL BE VERY PROUD OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CHANGE LEADERSHIP, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT PERIOD WHERE EVERYBODY THAT HAS THE STORM NORM AND GOOD THEM AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN AND THEN YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

SO WE GOT BACK UP A FEW, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT SEEING IT FORMALLY, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY LIFE IS WHEN YOU CHANGE TEAMS, THE TEAMS GOT TO CATCH UP AS BREEDING TIME, RADIO TAPE.

UH, SO, UM, I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE GOING TO DO A FINE JOB.

IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SPLUTTERING, BUT WELL, NOW THE DEAL FEEL FREE TO STOP.

YEAH.

SO, UH, I TRY TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

UM, I GUESS MAYBE I'M THE STRONGEST VOICE, UH, OF CONCERN ABOUT THE MEMORIAL BEING BUILT WITH, UH, POTENTIAL MATERIAL COMING FROM CHINA.

UM, I HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO GET THAT DIGESTED AND TRYING TO FEEL LIKE I COULD GO OUT AND SELL THAT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, THE MEETING WE HAD TODAY, WE'RE PURSUING A POSSIBILITY, EVIDENTLY THIS MATERIAL IS ALSO AVAILABLE IN ITALY AND INDIA.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION WE MADE TODAY WAS TO PURSUE THAT.

I ALSO GAVE A LIST OF 250 PLUS QUARRIES IN THE UNITED, WELL ACTUALLY IN NORTH AMERICA, CANADA, AMERICA, AND, UH, MEXICO, AND A COUPLE OF THEM AS FAR AS I CAN READ, SEEMED LIKE THEY DID FURNISH THE BLACK, UH, GRANITE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND I ASKED THEM TO PURSUE THOSE AVENUES, UH, INSTEAD OF BRINGING SOMETHING OVER FROM SOMEPLACE, THAT'S TRYING TO EAT OUR LUNCH.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ENDED THE DISCUSSION ON THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE VETERAN'S PROJECT.

NOW, THE OTHER PART IS THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, PURPLE HEART, UM, UH, MEMORIAL IN MIAMI, LOOKING AT IT BEING A STANDALONE MONUMENT, AS OPPOSED TO BEING PART OF A EIGHT FOOT BY FOUR FOOT WIDE.

UM, GRANTED, UM, THE DISCUSSION I HAD WITH ROB BEFORE HE LEFT IS THAT WE PUT THE MEDAL OF HONOR AND THE, UM, THE PURPLE HEART ON THIS, ON ONE OF THESE, UH, GRANTED, UH, CUBICLES.

UM, BUT SINCE THEN WE'VE TALKED AND THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE LOOKING AT SOMETHING TO CALL MERITORIOUS SERVICE.

UH, ONE OF THE PILLARS ARE, HAVE MERITORIOUS SERVICE.

NONE OF THAT WOULD BE THAT MEDAL OF HONOR, UH, THE, UH, NAVY CROSS, UH, FLYING CROSS AND A SILVER STAR.

AND, UM,

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THEN, UH, PER BART, UH, IT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM AND WE'RE LOOKING IN HOW TO DO THAT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT STANDALONE MONUMENT FOR PURPLE HEART, AND THAT WILL CAUSE US TO HAVE TO LOOK AT A STANDALONE MONUMENT FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER DECORATIONS.

SO, SO DON'T LOOK AT THAT MERITORIOUS, UH, TYPE SITUATION, UM, FOR THAT.

AND IF ANY OF THE COMMISSION HAVE COMMENT ON THAT, FEEL FREE TO TALK AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE FOR IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE STAND ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

UH, SCOTT IS YOUR DEAN DOING RESEARCH AND HE'S GOING TO FEED INFORMATION BACK TO US.

I DID MENTION TO HIM THAT WE HAVE A S UH, STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE MEMORIAL AND THAT THEY GENERALLY MEET WITH ROB, YOU KNOW, EVERY SO OFTEN.

AND I SAID HE HASN'T MET SINCE RON LEFT.

SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA CHAT TO SET UP A TIME WHERE HE CAN MEET WITH, CAUSE I'VE TOLD HIM EVERY TIME THEY MET, ROB MET WITH HIM.

SO, UH, WE'LL GET SET UP A TIME TO WHERE YOU GUYS ON THAT TEAM CAN MEET WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN TALK TO YOU FACE TO FACE AND GIVE YOU A, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, RIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH.

THOSE ARE GREG'S.

ARE YOU SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO RE-EXAMINE WHAT YOU JUST SAID WHEN YOU SAY RE-EXAMINE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN ABOUT THE PILLARS AND WHAT GOES ON, ON WALL THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED? LIKE I SAID, AS WE GO ALONG, THERE'S GOING TO BE INFORMATION PUT OUT, SO YOU HAVE MORE TO TALK ABOUT.

YEAH, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THINGS APPEAR PROMINENT IN THE CRITERIA FOR EXAMINATION.

ONE WOULD BE, UH, WHAT, WHAT CONSTITUTES MERITORIOUS.

BUT THE THING WHEN I STARTED THINKING ABOUT THAT, THE NEXT THING I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS CAPACITY.

I MEAN, WE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD QUOTE MERITORIOUS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND, UH, THE VETERANS MEMORIAL WILL EXIST LONG BEFORE ALL YOU FOLKS ARE HORIZONTAL ON LOW GROUND.

WHO, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER LEAVING SO CAPACITY FOR ENTRY, UH, LATER ON.

SO IF WE START IT, YOU'VE MADE A COMMENT, I GUESS THIS IS THE COMMENT YOU SAID, WELL, IF WE DO ONE MEADOW, WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK SOME METALS CLEARLY STAND OUT ABOVE OTHERS, SUCH AS THE MEDAL OF HONOR.

AND, UH, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO DOWN TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GOOD CONDUCT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, UH, I THINK CAPACITY BECOMES A LOOMING CONCERN.

YUP.

WELL, I'M THINKING, UM, MEDAL OF HONOR FLYING CROSS NAVY CROSS SILVER STAR AND PURPLE HEART.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

I WAS THINKING GO NO FARTHER THAN THAT AT THIS POINT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE REASONABLE.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOUR DEFINITION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

COMMENTS.

UM, YEAH, I WOULD JUST, UH, KIND OF ECHO, UH, WHAT RAY WAS SAYING THAT, UH, YEAH, THE, UM, UH, THE, THERE ARE CERTAIN METALS THAT KIND OF REALLY STAND OUT ABOVE AND BEYOND.

UM, AND THE MEDAL OF HONOR AND THE PURPLE HEART IN PARTICULAR, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF, UM, THE INHERENT SACRIFICE THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT, UM, DISTINGUISHED CROSSES, UM, ALSO, UM, TYPICALLY INVOLVE GREAT SACRIFICE, UM, BUT IT'S MORE OF A GLORIOUS TYPE OF RECOGNITION.

UM, AND, UM, AND YEAH, I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO, TO REVOLVE AROUND HOW RECOGNITION FOR, UM, UH, THOSE METALS WOULD BE.

WOULD IT SIMPLY JUST KIND OF BE A, UM, I GUESS, A TRIBUTE OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO SERVICE MEMBERS THAT HAVE RECEIVED THOSE, OR, UM, AS I THINK, UH, RAY WAS KIND OF INTIMATING, IS WOULD THERE BE NAMES INSCRIBED CORRESPONDING TO THAT? AND IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT KIND OF ADDS A WHOLE LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY, UM, TO IT THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IS NECESSARILY OUT OF BOUNDS, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, UM, AND MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, WORTH CONSIDERING BALANCING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF, OF HAVING SOME KIND OF, UM, NAMES ATTRIBUTED TO THOSE METALS AND THE CRITERIA REGARDING HAVING THOSE LISTED VERSUS JUST A SIMPLE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT RECOGNITION, UM, OF THOSE TYPES OF LEVELS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SUBCOMMITTEE SHOULD TAKE UNDER THEIR WINGS AND WORK ON TO CONCLUSION.

UH, I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT RIGHT NOW FOR US TO DISCUSS HERE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL.

IF I LOOK FOR THE SIP COMMITTEE TO DO, TO DELAY WORK ON THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY I TOLD THAT SCOTT, THAT WE NEED TO SET UP A MEETING HERE PRETTY QUICK.

SO YOU TALK WITH HIM.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE SEE FOR RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK THAT WAS ALL WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT.

CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF SCOTT'S TIME BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S GOTTA BE VERY BUSY

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STEPPING INTO THE SHOES HE STEPPING INTO.

SO, UM, AND MIKE, IF I'M YES.

UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, OKAY, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IF WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, YOU WILL PLAY THE PART OF SCOTT IN THIS UP.

OKAY.

SO YOU KNOW, MUCH AS HE DOES ABOUT, I KNOW YOU'VE JUST ADMITTED THE DAY YOU DO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND I WE'LL WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL TEST IT AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE A MEETING AND, UM, AND, UM, I'LL SEND OUT SOMETHING ON FACT, UH, YOU GUYS WANT TO SCHEDULE A MEETING NOW, UH, UH, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND OUT SOMETHING? WHY DON'T YOU SEND OUT? SO WE DIDN'T COORDINATE WITH OUR CALENDAR.

WE JUST PRINT.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

UM, FIRST NAME I'VE FORGOTTEN, TOM TOM SAID, LET'S LOOK AT SKILLS INTO NOW YOU LOOK AT MAYBE ME SENDING SOMETHING.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CALENDARS AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT AND SCHEDULING COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS I CAN SEND SOMETHING TO EVERYBODY IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND GET THEIR SCHEDULES AND EVERYTHING, AND THEN SET UP SOMETHING FOR THAT.

AND EVERYBODY'S AGREEABLE TO THAT.

OKAY.

I NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

WE, WE, WE OKAY NOW.

OKAY.

SO WE AGREE.

I'M GOING TO SEND OUT, UM, REQUESTS FOR EVERYBODY'S CALENDAR TO LOOK AT A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, INCLUDING MIKE, MIKE EMAIL.

I THINK I HAVEN'T MET YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IS ANY DAY IN PARTICULAR BAD FOR YOU? BAD.

OKAY.

LET'S TRY TO AVOID TASTE.

WE WILL.

WHAT WE'LL DO IS ASK AND DAN, WHEN YOU, EVERYBODY GIVE ME THERE, YOU KNOW, ATLANTA IT UP, EVERYBODY LINED UP AND I KNOW IT'S FOR YOU AND THAT'D BE FAB WITH MIKE AND THEN I MIGHT COME BY, BUT I'M NOT THERE TO GO.

WE CAN'T HAVE FIVE CARS.

DO WE HAVE A COURTROOM? WE DON'T WANT TO COURT FOR A FOUR PLUS LIAISON.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'LL DO THAT.

LET ME WRITE THAT DOWN.

I'LL MIX IT UP.

DO WE HAVE THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE? BECAUSE I THOUGHT AT ONE TIME I WAS ON IT, BUT I NEVER WENT ATTENDED ANY.

SO YOU STILL ON IT? I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ONE.

NO, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ONE SINCE A NEW STUDIO VOLUNTEER.

UH, NOT SINCE NO, NO.

LAST TIME WE HAD ONE WAS, UM, IT WAS BEFORE JEFF LEFT.

IS IT SO YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING SINCE JEFF LEFT AND WE REORGANIZED AFTER JEFF LEFT AND, UH, I THINK WE, IT, UH, DAN, SO, UM, SO NO, YOU HAVEN'T HAD ONE, YOU WILL.

UM, I GUARANTEE IT, UH, IT'S COMING UP PRETTY SOON.

UH, SO STANDBY AND I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

UM, JUST TO REITERATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON TOP OF THAT, A LOT OF THINGS THAT ROB WAS DOING MOST OF THE TIME.

SO I HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH AS THERE'S A THING I'M JUST NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH IS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL GET YOU UP TO SPEED REAL QUICK.

UH, UH, THAT WAY YOU CAN BE IN, UM, UH, SCOTTSDALE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW HE'S VERY BUSY, UM, BUT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE JUSTICE IS VERY IMPORTANT, SO WE'VE GOTTA BE PUSHING IT UP.

GREAT, GREAT.

W W WE, WE IN AGREEMENT IN VOLUME AGREEMENTS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, THAT'S IT FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF, UH, MORE TO COME.

UM, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, MOVING DOWN FIRST.

I'LL MAKE SURE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ANYTHING.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WANT TO MOVE DOWN TO THE MEMORIAL DAY.

SO COMMITTEE, UH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ONE YET.

I PASSED OUT

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A SHEET, UM, OVER EMAIL, UH, ASKING EVERYONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT COMMITTEES THEY'D LIKE TO BE IN.

AND, UM, YOU LOOK AT ME KIND OF STRANGE.

SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE I SAID, I'LL EMAIL, BUT AUSTIN OUT AGAIN.

UM, AND I'D ASKED YOU TO LOOK AT, UM, PUTTING AN X OR SOMETHING, UH, BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE YOU'D PREFER.

AND THESE ARE BASICALLY THE SUBCOMMITTEES FOR MEMORIAL DAY, 4TH OF JULY VETERANS DAY.

AND OF COURSE, YOU GUYS ALREADY ON THE BEDROOMS PROJECT ONE, UH, AND YOU CAN BE ON MORE THAN ONE SUBCOMMITTEE.

IF YOU HAD THE TIME EFFECT OF THE NUMBERS HERE, YOU PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO BE ON MORE THAN ONE SUB COMMITTEE.

AND, UM, SO I'D LIKE YOU TO GIVE ME THAT, THEN WE CAN FORMALIZE THE SUBCOMMITTEES.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A MEETINGS, I WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S ON WHAT MEETING WE HAVE TO BE TRYING TO GUESS EVERY TIME I HAVE A MEETING, UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO THAT TO LAND UP.

UM, SO I WILL, UM, PING YOU AGAIN ON THIS AND, AND ASK IF YOU WOULD FILL OUT A, UM, ELECTRONICALLY AND YOU WOULD KEEP LOOKING AT ME, SOMETHING LIKE YOU JUST, AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

UM, SO IF YOU DO THAT, THEN WE WILL HAVE THESE COMMITTEES AND THEN WE CAN START SCHEDULING MEETINGS WITH THEM, UH, EVER SO OFTEN AS WE GET CLOSER TO THOSE PARTICULAR DAYS, NINE MEMORIAL DAY ONE WOULD HAVE TO START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WORKING PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE MEMORIAL DAY IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

AND I, UM, LOOKED IN THE PAST AND TRIED TO FIND THE SCRIPT FROM THE LAST MEMORIAL DAY, WHICH WAS INVITE, WHICH COVID KINDA MESSED UP.

AND I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING.

I KNOW THEY DID SOMETHING I WASN'T PART OF IT BECAUSE OF COVID.

BUT I KNOW JEFF HAD SOMETHING OUT AT THE MEMORIAL WHERE YOU HAVE BILL.

YES, I WAS THE VOICE AND YOU WOULDN'T HEAR IT, BUT IT WASN'T AS BAD AS LAST YEAR, LIKE A FROZE TO DEATH LAST YEAR, MEMORIAL DAY, I'M TALKING MEMORIAL DAY, NOT VETERANS DAY.

OKAY.

SO THEY DID SOMETHING LAST YEAR ON MEMORIAL DAY AND JEFF WAS THERE, THE MAYOR WAS THERE AND, AND, AND I CAN'T FIND IT.

I KNOW THEY DID IT.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UM, SO WHAT I DID, I SENT OUT A COPY OF VETERAN'S DAY AND WE CAN TAKE VETERAN'S DAY AND ZAZA MAKE IT MEMORIAL DAY, UH, SCRIPT.

WON'T BE A WHOLE LOT CONDUCTS, VERY SIMILAR, UM, WITH MEMORIAL DAY AND, UM, VETERAN'S DAY REPLAYING.

YES.

MA'AM I CAN'T REALLY, CAN YOU, THERE IT GOES.

I'M LIKE I'M PUSHING IT.

IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING.

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC FOR YOU FOR EITHER ONE OF THESE EVENTS? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THEM TO BE PARALLEL AND KIND OF MATCH EACH OTHER, OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT APPROACH FOR EACH THOUGHT? UH, I'M OPEN? UM, I GREW UP WHAT I HAD TO, TO SHOW AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT I'M OPEN FOR WHATEVER A SUBCOMMITTEE DECIDE IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT OUTRAGEOUS, WELL, NO, I'LL, I'LL JUST OFFER UP.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TRADER FOR THE BASE COMMANDER FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

WELL, FOR TWO, TWO DIFFERENT COMMANDERS.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF IN MY WHEELHOUSE.

IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU GIVE ME IDEAS OF WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, I CAN HELP PUT IT INTO A FORMAT IN THE SPECIFIC TIMELINE THAT YOU WANT.

UM, I MEAN, I, I WILL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

I KNOW TO KEEP THEM IN THE MANAGEABLE SIZES, YOU CAN KIND OF TELL ME WHAT TO DO AND I CAN DO THAT.

AND THAT ALLOWS YOU GUYS TO STILL HAVE YOUR, I MEAN, THAT'S, I WILL FUNCTION IN ANY WAY YOU WANT ME TO.

OKAY.

WELL, LET ME, LET ME, UM, TAKE WHAT YOU SAID AND, UH, THINK ABOUT A SECOND AND THEN SEND SOMETHING OUT, UH, TO YOU AND, UM, TO THE REST OF THE GROUP.

BUT I WAS THINKING WE WOULD DO THIS UNDER SUB-COMMITTEES.

UM, BUT FOR NOW, IF I'M WRONG, I'M, I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT SUB PERMISSIONS FOR EACH ONE OF A DAYS, OR WE COULD HAVE A SUB COMMISSION FOR SOME NOT CELEBRATION, BUT CEREMONIES THAT WOULD COVER ALL OF THEM, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY FINISH ONE, THEY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

UM, THAT WOULD WORK IF THAT BETTER FOR YOU GUYS.

I DON'T KNOW IT'S FOR TOO MANY OR JUST ONE.

IT HAS FOUR PARTS COMMENTS.

I HAVE A COMMENT, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS YOUR WHAT'D YOU JUST SAY, UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UM, I DON'T THINK THE CRITERION OF TRYING TO SAY, LIKE IT WAS ANY OTHER EVENT IS, SHOULD BE THE CRITERIA.

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THE CRITERIA IS TO BE A LEGITIMATE AND WELL PURPOSED MEMORIAL CEREMONY.

NOW SITTING AT THIS TABLE IS VIETNAM VETERAN FROM VVA CHAPTER, UH, FUCKING NINETIES, 97.

I'M A MEMBER.

I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE NUMBER, UH, ANYWAY, UH, AND ALSO FROM THE ARMORIES WE'VE, WE'VE ATTENDED MANY, UH, OF THE MO UH, MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONIES, 4TH OF JULY CEREMONY, VETERANS SAY ALL KINDS OF CEREMONIES.

AND THAT USUALLY BREAK DOWN INTO TWO COMPONENT PARTS.

ONE IS THE CEREMONIAL PART WHERE YOU DO THE FIRING PARTY AND THE TAPS, AND, UM, UH, SETTING UP THE FLAG AND ALL THAT.

AND THAT SHOULD BE MILITARILY, CORRECT.

VERY PRECISE.

NOW THAT IS AN ADJUNCT TO THE OTHER PART THAT WHATEVER GOVERNING AGENCY WANTS TO DO IS TO ESTABLISH THE SPEECHES WHO DOES THE SPEECHES, WHO WANTS TO TALK, WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL CEREMONY ITSELF.

SO YOU REALLY GOT TO TWO PARTS TO ADDRESS.

SO IF, IF YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH THE PRECISE CEREMONIAL PART, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, 21 GUN SALUTE AND ALL THAT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, DAVE AND I CAN, UH, CAN TELL YOU, UH, YEARS AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HAVE DONE DOING THAT.

SO ON THE OTHER PART, YOU'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHO WANTS TO BE IN THE LIMELIGHT? AND IF I, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST MAKE A PAID POLITICAL ANNOUNCEMENT HERE.

ONCE AN AGENDA AND PROTOCOL IS ESTABLISHED, LIKE BEG EVERYONE INCLUDED NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE NOT TO MAKE THESE LAST MINUTE CHANGES IN, I'LL GIVE A WILD EXAMPLE, WHICH MAY HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PAST.

UH, OKAY.

WE'LL DO TAPS RIGHT AFTER THE 21 GUN SALUTE.

UH, LET'S NOT DO THAT.

LET'S DO TAPS FIRST.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THE MILITARY PARTIES ARE WAITING FOR THOSE AUDIBLE CLUES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET, WELL, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.

THAT'S, THAT'S NO GOOD IF YOU DO THAT, ONCE EVERYBODY AGREES TO WHAT THE AGENDA IS, HOW IT'S GOING TO FLOW, I WISH THAT YOU WOULD LOCK IT IN SOME WAY.

YEAH.

BUT NOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S A, THAT'S A, UH, A COMMITTEE WOULD MAKE THAT UP.

RIGHT.

UM, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S TWO PARTS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BUT MY QUESTION IS FOR THOSE TWO PARTS, DO WE WANT TO HAVE ONE COMMITTEE THAT DOES VETERAN'S DAY ONE COMMITTEE THAT DOES MEMORIAL DAY OR ONE COMMITTEE THAT DOES ALL OUR CELEBRATIONS OR CEREMONIES YOU DAN? I W I WOULD JUST, UH, OPINE THAT, UH, FOR CONTINUITY SAKE, I THINK A SINGLE SUB COMMITTEE THAT COVERS, UM, THE MAJORITY OF OUR, UM, PUBLIC EVENTS WOULD PROBABLY MAKE SENSE INSTEAD OF HAVING, UM, UH, MULTIPLE, UM, UH, CHEFS IN THE KITCHEN.

SO TO SPEAK, I THINK FOR CONSISTENCY SAKE AND CONTINUITY, I THINK IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE FOR IT TO BE THE, UH, QUOTE UNQUOTE STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, WITH, WITH MEMBERS THAT ARE, UM, CHARGED WITH, WITH PLANNING, EXECUTING, UM, EACH OF THE, EACH OF THE EVENTS I HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT DAD SAID, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GAIN EXPERIENCE, YOU EXPERIENCE, IT BECOMES MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE ACCURATE.

I AGREE.

SO LET ME HAVE, UM, UH, MY MIND WENT BLANK, UH, MOTION.

THANK YOU.

UH, I HAVE A MOTION TO DO ONE COMMITTEE, DON'T YOU SPEAKER AND MEMORIAL DAY.

IT'S MORE OF A TIME TO HONOR, UM, THE CEASED MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY, WHEREAS VETERANS DAY, YOU HONOR ALL LIVING VETERANS.

SO MAYBE WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT COMMITTEES, THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO DO ALL THE EVENTS, MAYBE JUST THOSE TWO MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY CAN KIND OF SEPARATE THE TWO.

SO LIKE I SAID, SO WE CAN, ON MEMORIAL DAY REALLY HONOR THE VETERANS, THE WATERWAY BACK, UH, YOU KNOW, SPANISH, AMERICAN WAR AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WHEREAS THE VETERANS, THEY, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT HONOR THOSE LIVING VETERANS.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO SUB COMMITTEES, ONE FOR MEMORIAL DAY ALONE, AND THE OTHER WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER PUBLIC

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EVENTS THAT WE HAVE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED? RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I, I WOULD JUST KIND OF PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT AND JUST SIMPLY SAY, UM, I THINK, UM, ANYONE WHO'S WILLING TO BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, I THINK, UM, HAS ENOUGH, UM, KNOWLEDGE AND PASSION AND, AND, AND FAMILIARITY WITH THESE TYPES OF EVENTS.

I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE PARSED OUT.

I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH, UM, EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE WITHIN THIS BODY THAT, THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, WOULD, WOULD DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO HANDLE NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, MEMORIAL DAY VETERANS DAY.

UM, BUT ANY OF THOSE OTHER KIND OF SPECIAL, UM, DAYS OF RECOGNITION THAT, THAT MAY COME UP BECAUSE YEAH, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TWO BIG ONES, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER, UM, THAT ARE SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SO, UM, YEAH, I OBVIOUSLY THE FOCUS OF THOSE TWO KEY DATES, UM, IS DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT.

UM, BUT IT STILL FALLS WITHIN THE SAME WHEELHOUSE I WOULD SAY SO TO SPEAK.

UM, SO MAYBE THE RESPONSE IS TO ESTABLISH A S AN EVENT SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, JUST CALL IT AN EVENT SUB COMMITTEE.

AND THEN UNDER THAT SUB COMMITTEE, YOU CAN HAVE WORKING GROUPS THAT TAKE ON THE INDIVIDUAL TASKS.

SO IF SOMEBODY UNDER THAT COMMITTEE WANTS TO TAKE ON THE LEAD AS THE VETERAN'S DAY, THEN THEY HAVE THAT.

THEY CAN PULL IN OTHER PEOPLE, AGAIN, NOT BREAKING HORN, BUT THEY CAN PULL ONE OFF OTHER PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON THAT AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE EVENTS COMMITTEE.

UM, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO KIND OF COVER EVERYTHING, BUT STILL HAVE AN UMBRELLA THAT BRINGS IT ALL TOGETHER.

SO THERE IS SOMEBODY LIKE GREG WHO HAS THAT SUBJECT MATTER KNOWLEDGE ON YOUNG MARINES AND RURAL TEAMS IN THE AREA THAT CAN BE BROUGHT INTO SUPPORT, AS OPPOSED TO ME SITTING THERE GOING, WELL, I KNOW THESE ONES FROM MY TIME DOING IT, BUT MAYBE THEY'RE NOT THE RIGHT ONES OR THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE, OR I'M RECREATING ALL OF THESE STEPS.

WE HAVE THAT GOOD.

UM, OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'VE HEARD THE DISCUSSION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY REBUTTAL OR, OH, NO, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

OKAY.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE ONE COMMITTEE CALL A PUBLIC EVENT COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT THAT WOULD BE MADE UP OF FOUR PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE ONE THAT TAKES LEAD ON CERTAIN PROJECTS AND FEED IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH BRINGS IT ON BACK TO THE COMMISSION OF WHAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ESTABLISHED AT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE, PUBLIC EVENTS, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, OKAY, WHATEVER SOMEBODY, WHENEVER THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION IS GOING TO BE REPRESENTED IN PUBLIC VACCINE IS KIND OF THE ONE THAT KIND OF GOES, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO PUT OUT.

THIS IS OUR MESSAGE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TAKING, RIGHT.

COULD WE PASS ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND SO FORTH? SECOND, SECOND.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL IN FAMOUS THAT I POSTED IN EIGHT .

I BLEED AYES HAVE IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OUT WITH A SINGLE COMMISSION FOR EVENTS.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS NOW, ONE FOR EVENTS AND ONE FOR THE PROJECT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY MUCH TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

OKAY.

SO WHAT I PROBABLY NEED IS, UM, A LIST OF PEOPLE I'LL SEND OUT ANOTHER SHEET.

THERE'S ONLY HAVE TWO THINGS ON IT.

THOSE TWO THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT, AND LET ME KNOW WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO BE ON.

YES.

BUT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT WAS STILL BE SAFE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THOSE ARE THE TWO SENTENCES.

YES.

YES.

THEY DON'T REALLY RELATE, BUT THEY'RE SEPARATE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

UH HUH.

ALIBI.

ALIBI.

YES.

YES.

NEVER HEARD THAT PHRASE.

ALIBI ALIBI FIRES.

SO YOU'RE ON THE RANGE.

EVERYBODY'S QUALIFYING AND THEN YOU HAD A MISFIRE, SO THEY LET YOU FIRE BY YOURSELF.

SO THIS IS AN ALIBI, UM, AIR FORCE.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, UH, THAT'S THE ARMY THING.

UM, MEMORIAL DAY, AS FAR AS THE, UM, THE PRESENTATION, ARE WE STILL DOING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH MEMORIAL DAY OR HAS THAT CHANGED? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RECOGNITION OF A VETERAN AND A VETERAN? UH, UH, THE ANSWER'S YES.

YES.

IT WAS.

YES.

IF SOMEBODY SUBMITS IT.

UM, NO, THERE HASN'T BEEN SUBMISSIONS.

I THOUGHT, SO ARE YOU TALKING? SO IF WE GO BY, WHAT IS IT GONE OVER AT THE END? IS THAT YOUR NAME? I SHOULD REMEMBER THAT.

THAT'S MY HUSBAND'S NAME.

UM, IF WE GO BY WHAT, TOM, JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY.

THAT MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE OF A DISCONNECT TO RECOGNIZE LIVING VETERANS AT MEMORIAL DAY.

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IF WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE FACT THAT THAT IS HONORING, THOSE THAT HAVE PASSED, IF WE'RE TO FOCUS ON THAT IS THE PREMISE, MAYBE THE 4TH OF JULY, WHICH HAS A CELEBRATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

THEY SUPPORT INDEPENDENCE, THEY SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, HISTORY CELEBRATION IN AND OF ITSELF, AS OPPOSED TO A MEMORIAL, UH, RAY AND MILTON COMMENTS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS HELP.

BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THE DAY'S WORK POSITIVE BASED ON THESE SOUND GOOD.

BUT I THINK IF THERE A CHANGE, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.

YOU KNOW, OUR HAS, UH, A GREAT, UH, FIVE, TWO SETS OF PLAQUES A YEAR.

SO WHENEVER, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE WANT TO DO IT, WE JUST NEED SOME LATE TIME SO WE CAN GET THE PRINT SHOP TO GET A MADE UP.

OKAY.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS, UM, WE STILL WANT TO DO OUR, WE WILL AWARDS, UH, BUT MAYBE MEMORIAL DAY MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT ONE THAT I DATE.

WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT 4TH OF JULY IN VETERAN'S DAY, UH, TO PRESENT THESE, THE ABUNDANCE OF ISSUES NOW FACING THE COMMISSION, SAVE TO SAY THAT, UH, FOR EFFICIENCY PURPOSES, WE OUGHT TO GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE SLACK, LET US WORK ON A FEW THINGS NOW.

AND THEN SOME OF THOSE THINGS LATER.

OKAY.

UM, WE SAID, SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS YOU ME.

WELL, IS IT LIKE THE, LIKE THE AWARDS FOR THE VETERANS? OH, OKAY.

WELL, YEAH, WE'LL BE DOING IT THIS WAY.

SO ARE YOU SAYING TABLE IT UNTIL ANOTHER MEETING? YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IS THERE'S MEMORIAL DAY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT HER AWARD.

WE'RE TABLING THAT AND LET BILL EMBRY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM THIS POINT.

DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU TOO? WELL, I THINK YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE 4TH OF JULY IS A GOOD IDEA.

UM, AND THE ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS, UH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GIVE FROM THE PRINT SHOP A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, LEEWAY.

SO IF WE DID IT ON THE 4TH OF JULY, THEY COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PARADE.

IF WE RUN A FLOAT OR ANY KIND OF CAR OR ANYTHING THEY COULD RIDE ALONG AND YOU GET A BANNER MADE UP, THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT.

SO THERE'S A WAY TO REALLY CAPITALIZE THAT THE OTHER DAY I WOULD PUT OUT, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR US ARMED FORCES DAY IS MAY 15TH.

AND SO THERE'S ANOTHER DAY THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO CELEBRATING AND RECOGNIZING THE SERVING MEMBERS ACROSS THE FORCE.

SO OUR SERVICE FURNITURE.

SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO CLOSE CAUSE THAT'S SIX WEEKS.

UM, 4TH OF JULY DEFINITELY IS GOING TO GET MUCH MORE ATTENTION, MUCH MORE.

UM, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THE CITY CONGRATULATE THEM AS WE'RE DOING THE PARADE, WHICH IS KIND OF NICE TOO.

OKAY.

SO, SO BILL, THEN RAY, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT ON AN ADVISEMENT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT FOR RIGHT NOW AND NEXT MEETING, MAYBE WE'LL PUT ON AN AGENDA OR, OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO GO WITH 4TH OF JULY AND WE JUST MOVE ON OUT? WELL, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME MY PERSONAL OPINION, I THINK THE 4TH OF JULY SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

I AGREE WITH BILL.

OKAY.

SO, SO BE IT.

THEN WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THIS, UM, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO MOVE AWARDS TO FULFILL JULY AND VETERAN'S DAY ALL CAN GET A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

I GET A SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND THAT WE MOVE OUR WARDS DAYS TO 4TH OF JULY AND VETERAN'S DAY ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, AYE.

YOU'RE NO NAYS, AYES HAVE IT.

THEY USE OUT MOVED A QUESTION.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE NOMINEES? AND HOW, HOW IS THE COMMUNITY GOING TO BE NOTIFIED OF, UH, I'VE GOT AN ANSWER FOR THAT, BUT, UH, CAN I WAIT UNTIL MY LITTLE DIATRIBE ON THE NEWSLETTER? UH, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO ANSWER IT AT THE NEWSLETTER SPECIFICALLY, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS ALREADY IN PLACE.

I'M JUST GONNA, UH, EXPLAIN WHAT IT REALLY IS.

OKAY.

SO YOU LEAD RIGHT INTO THE NEXT SUBJECT RATE IS YOUR FLOOR.

OH, I ALREADY, YEP.

OKAY.

UM, I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE NEWSLETTER.

YEAH, I GUESS MY FIRST ITEM SHOULD BE, I HUMBLY BEG EVERYONE'S PARDON, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT AGGREGATED TOWARD PREPARATION, I'M GOING TO BE A FEW DAYS LATE.

I MEAN, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AS UP TO 31ST OF THIS MONTH, I'LL PROBABLY BE THREE OR FOUR DAYS LATE TO GET IT OUT.

CAUSE I GOT TO GIVE IT FOR ME AND FOR, UH, A CITY REVIEW.

NOW THE FIRST POINT WOULD BE ONE OF THE PROCESSES THAT FOR THE NEWSLETTER WAS THAT ROB WAS GOING TO REVIEW IT.

SO ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE REVIEWER NOW? OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD

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TO KNOW.

UM, SO IT'S SCHEDULED FOR QUARTERLY, BUT AGAIN, THERE MIGHT BE OCCASIONS WHERE IT ISN'T REALLY A PRECISELY PERIODIC SCHEDULE, A CASE IN POINT BEING IT'S COMING UP ON MEMORIAL DAY.

WE MAY SEE A REASON TO PUT OUT A QUICK, A QUICK ONE, LIKE A ONE AND A HALF MONTHS FROM NOW JUST TO PUT OUT SOME SOLICITATIONS OR SUPPORT OF SOME KIND.

UM, SO IF THAT'S, IF NOBODY HAS ANY TROUBLE WITH IT, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY IT WOULD, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO WORK.

I WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT, UH, UH, JAMIE HAS SET UP A GOOD DEAL ON THE WEBSITE WHERE, UH, PEOPLE CAN IN FACT, UH, LOOK AT DOWNRANGE THE NEWSLETTER SIMPLY BY GOING TO THE WEBSITE AND ACCESSING THE URL TO LOOK AT IT.

BUT I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUSH AND PULL NOTIFICATION, UH, PUSH MEANS, UH, AND MILITARY JARGON PASSED THE WORD, RIGHT? AND IT'S USED BY PROMOTERS ADVERTISERS, COMMERCIAL AND FOCUS.

PEOPLE LIKE US.

UH, IT'S USED FOR ANTI LIABILITY PURPOSES.

I TOLD YOU SO YOU CAN'T SUE ME.

UM, IT'S USED BY GENUINELY GROUPS.

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE VA WAS PUTTING OUT THE NEWS, HEY, WE'RE GIVING SHOTS, ALL THOSE SKIS, BUT IT PUSHES IT OUT.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO REACH FOR IT.

AS IS.

AS IN THE OTHER SYSTEM, A PULL SYSTEM IS, GOES LIKE IF ONE KNOWS WHERE TO PULL THE THREAD IN THIS CASE, THE AFOREMENTIONED URL, UH, THEY CAN GO GET IT.

BUT IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THREAD, WHERE IT IS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO GET IT NOR THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BECOME AWARE OF IT.

HOWEVER, US KNOWING THAT IS GOOD TO KEEP IN OUR HIP POCKET.

UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL IT MY BATMAN UTILITY BELT.

IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO KEEP THERE.

WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY, UH, UH, HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEWSLETTER? OH, WHAT DOES LATER? OH, WELL YOU CAN RE YOU CAN SEE IT ON SUCH AND SUCH.

SO IT'S GOOD FOR THAT.

NOW, THERE, THERE ARE THINGS COMING UP THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE TOO LATE.

SO SAY FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS ON TIME AND WE WERE GOING TO PUBLISH THE NEWSLETTER ON THE 31ST OF MARCH.

UH, MENTAL AVANTOR TAKE, BY THE WAY IS TOMORROW.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

UH, NATIONAL VIETNAM WAR DAY HAS JUST COME OUT WITH, UH, THE 50TH VIETNAM WAR COMMEMORATION, A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.

UM, AND ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE TO COMPLIMENT OUR OWN ORGANIZATION, VVA CHAPTER 97 FOR BEING A GOOD CONTRIBUTOR.

I'M PASSING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION TO US.

UH, THERE HAS BEEN AWARENESS OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED USA CARES, WHICH, UH, THEY'RE PRIMARILY INVOLVED IN FINDING A VETERANS WHO ARE IN TROUBLE AND SOLICITING DONATIONS FOR THAT.

UH, AND THE, UH, VIETNAM NEWSLETTER REPORT JUST CAME OUT AND THEY HAVE A PROJECT GOING WHERE THEY GOT THE ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF EVERY PERSON ON THE VIETNAM WALL.

AND THEY'RE FILING WINDING UP THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS THING.

AND SO PEOPLE BECOME AWARE OF THAT.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE VIETNAM VETERAN RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE APP, THEY HEAR ABOUT THAT.

AND I'D CERTAINLY WANT TO PUT IN SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

UH, IN THE MEANTIME, UH, I WILL ASK THE MEMBERS, FIRST OF ALL, IT DID EVERYBODY GET MY LONG-WINDED EXPLANATION OF WHAT YOU OUT A NEWSLETTER SHOULD BE GOVERNED AS ANYBODY NOT GET IT? DID YOU GET IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.

DID YOU GET THE INSTRUCTIONS? OKAY.

ANYWAY, UH, WELL, UH, I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU BECAUSE YOU GAVE ME A COPIOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, WHICH I'M GOING TO EDIT IT USE.

HE WAS VERY CONTRIBUTORY, UH, TO, UH, SO, AND, AND IF YOU DO MAKE COMMENTS THAT HAVE, UH, A FIRMNESS, IT LIKE, HEY GUYS, THE HUBER HEIGHTS BRICK SALE FOR THE MEMORIAL STARTS ON AND YOU GET BRICKS FOR THIS AMOUNT AND THEY'LL BE USED FOR THESE PURPOSES.

AND THIS THERE'LL BE THIS SIZE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE COMMENTS LIKE THAT, PLEASE TURN THEM INTO THIS NEWSLETTER.

AND, UH, IF WE USE IT, SAY TO SOLICIT A MEDAL OF HONOR OR PURPLE HEART VETERANS, THAT WE MAY NOT, MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, THAT MIGHT BE A MESSAGE

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WE COULD PUT IN THERE.

AND, UH, I HAVE, AS I TOLD YOU, JAMIE SET UP A POLL SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO GET IT, BUT I AM THE NEWSLETTER EDITOR FOR THE MIAMI VALLEY, YOUNG MARINES, AND I'M A QUARTER NEWSLETTER FOR THE, THEY CALL THE TRESTLE BOARD AND THE MASONS, WHICH GETS OUT TO A LARGE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.

AND IT INCLUDES AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT DOCUMENT TO A YOUNG BRAIN NEWSLETTER.

AND IT DOES REACH OUT TO AT LAST COUNT AND I'M INCLUDING FRIENDS OF HONOR FLIGHT AS WELL, UM, ABOUT 1500 PEOPLE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT, WHETHER THEY ASK FOR IT OR NOT.

AND AS A RESULT, IF IT PASSES BEFORE THE FRONT OF THEIR EYES, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFECTIVE IN THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND, UH, I GUESS THAT'S THE END OF MY DIET.

RIGHT? OKAY.

SO BOTTOM LINE IS YOU ARE WORKING TO MAKE THE NEWSLETTER BETTER AND LOOKING FOR INFORMATION TO HELP YOU TO DO.

YEAH.

THE ONLY THING THAT I NEED, UH, I WOULD SAY, UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LOOK, NO LADIES HERE AT THE MOMENT.

I WOULD SAY ABSOLUTE LADY AGAIN, GENTLEMEN, UH, IF YOU WOULD BE ALERT TO THINGS THAT YOU THINK ARE WORTHWHILE FOR VETERANS TO KNOW, PLEASE THINK OF DROPPING ME, UH, AT LEAST SOME KIND OF LINK TO IT WHERE I CAN LOOK IT UP OR WRITE UP SOMETHING WELL YOURSELF.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS.

YOU READY? GOOD.

GOOD.

SO KEEP THAT IN MIND, CAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE A GOOD, GOOD NEWS THAT EVERYTHING WE DO, WE WANT TO MAKE IT THE BEST BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR VETERANS AREN'T THE BEST.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE THEM THE BEST ALIBI.

IF I MAY BACKSPACE ON MEMORIAL DAY, I GOT A EMAIL TODAY FROM CHIEF ORKUT ON WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, JUNIOR ROTC, AND THEY SAID THEY'RE READY TO PARTICIPATE IN EVERY WAY FOR MEMORIAL DAY.

EXCELLENT CONFIRMED.

EXCELLENT.

AND MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG READS ARE ALSO OKAY.

EXCELLENT.

SO WE'RE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT TALKING TO A REPRESENTATIVE PLUMBER, RIGHT? UM, UH, YEAH, I WAS SUPPOSED TO ALABAMA.

I APOLOGIZE.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.

UM, COULD I JUST ASK ONE FAVOR? UH, YOU SAID YOU REACHED OUT TO, UH, COURT OR HOWEVER YOU PRONOUNCE HIS NAME, WHO DID THE, FROM ROTC GUY CHIEF ON THAT.

DID YOU ASK HIM IF HE COULD GET SOMEBODY FROM WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL TO DO THE TAPS TAPS TAPS, SOMEBODY FROM TAX SCHOOL DID THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE I KNOW WHY YOU'RE ASKING THAT.

WELL, I'VE BEEN ASKING OUR CHOIR DIRECTOR TO DO IT AND HE'S DONE IT THE LAST TWO TIMES, BUT AGAIN, UM, OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING FOR ANOTHER REASON, BUT OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, JUST A QUICK SUMMARY, BECAUSE MOST OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON A SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO I NEED TO DO SOME WORK AND GET SOME INFORMATION OUT TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE THE SOONER WE GET THAT SUBCOMMITTEE ON A PUBLIC PENCE GOING, AS SOON AS WE CAN DO PLANNING FOR MEMORIAL DAY, OTHER THAN WHAT, UH, RAY HAS ALREADY DONE.

AND HE'S DONE SOME ALREADY.

UM, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS? UM, OKAY.

AND, UM, IF YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT, OKAY.

GIVE ME, GIVE ME THE GAMBLE.

I CAN'T TALK WITHOUT THE CAP.

OKAY.

UH, TAKE ABOUT TWO MINUTES AND WE'LL BE DONE.

I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE YOUNG MARINES GOAL IS THOSE, UH, ANTI, UH, DRUG RESISTANCE AND, AND THE LIKE, AND, UH, ALCOHOL RESISTANCE.

AND THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH CALLED ATOMUS, WHICH IS ALCOHOL DRUG ADDICTION AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

AND THEY PUTTING OUT SOME NEW TRAINING AVAILABLE, UH, INITIALLY TO, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, FIRE, EMS, EMT, PARAMEDICS, POLICE, MILITARY, AND VETERANS AT TO, TO GIVE TRAINING ON THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW WHEN ENCOUNTERING THOSE.

SO MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS, IT IS NOT THERAPEUTIC IN ANY WAY.

IT ALSO TURNS OUT THAT THE CONTENT IS SUITABLE FOR JUVENILES WHEREBY THE YOUNG MARINES COULD USE IT.

UH, WHAT I LEARNED, YOU KNOW, FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY DRUG FREE COALITION IS THAT IT'S CLEARLY BEEN A NICE THING TO PEOPLE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT PEOPLE WITH DRUG AND ALCOHOL PROBLEMS DO HAVE FREQUENTLY A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO GO WITH IT.

SO THERE'S SOME, SOME,

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UH, SOME GOOD AWARENESS TRAINING GOING ON, SO THAT, UH, WHEN WE, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THIS GENTLEMEN FOR A 20 MINUTE PRESENTATION TO US SO WE CAN ASK OUR QUESTIONS.

UH, THE THING ABOUT THAT IS IF THE VA HAS BEEN ON THIS FOR, I MEAN, YEARS, I MEAN, YOU SAW THE SUICIDE PREVENTION THINGS AND ALL THAT GOING ON.

I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH OF VETERANS, SO I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THIS WOULD GO, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IN ANY OF OUR THOUGHTS CONCERNING VETERAN WELFARE, WELFARE.

YEAH.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, RAY, UM, THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION.

WHAT WE'LL DO IS YOU AND I WILL TALK ABOUT MAYBE SCHEDULING, UH, THAT INDIVIDUAL COME AND TALK TO US FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES BECAUSE THIS TYPE OF THING IS REALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

AND IT'S REALLY WHAT'S IN THE NEWS.

SO WE WANT TO BE ON TOP OF THAT.

THANKS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AN OUTREACH PROGRAM, BUT I'D LIKE TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

THEN THE LAST THING ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, UM, HYBRID MEETING.

DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE A HYBRID MEETINGS OR DO WE WANT TO JUST GO STRAIGHT FOR, UM, IN PERSON YOU GOT NOBODY ON LAND PERSON AND FIRST IN PERSON IN PERSON IN PERSON, UM, I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE ALL THE PARTIES.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO SAY, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY CONCERNS? PARDON? IT'S UP TO US? WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S EASY TO SAY, BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHER POWER SAY, WELL, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, COVID RULES SAY THIS, WELL, LET'S SAY THIS LET'S HAVE PERSONAL MEETINGS AND TELL SOMEONE TELLS US NOT TO HAVE PERSONAL MEETINGS.

CAN WE GET IT BACK? I WOULD JUST MAYBE SUGGEST THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY NEED TO TIE OUR HANDS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

UM, I THINK WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD ATTENDANCE EVEN WITH THE HYBRID OPTION.

UM, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO NECESSARILY TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT, UM, AGAIN, I JUST, MY COMMENT WOULD BE, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO LIMIT OURSELVES, KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN.

UM, LET ME ASK THE QUESTION.

UM, IS THERE A REASON, UM, UM, DO WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER