[AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road March 4, 2021 7:00 P.M.]
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CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTUALLY COMMISSIONED START OFF I'LL CALL DR.
AKINS PRESENT, PRESENT, PRESENT MR. STEVENS, MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON, PRESENT MS. STEPHENS PRESENT, PRESENT AGENDA APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES FORGING LIKE SEVEN, WHICH WE TITLED THE APPROVAL LAST MONTH AT OUR MEETING.
SO ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO OUR JANUARY SEVEN MINUTES OR CHANGES? SO FOR APPROVAL FOR THE MINUTES, CHAD, I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE JANUARY 7TH, 2021 CULTURAL DIVERSITY ACTION COMMISSION BEING CORRECTION.
SHOULD THAT BE ANY CERTAIN IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED TO THE MINUTES? WE'LL CALL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSITIONS
ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS, MADAM CHAIR? I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES.
WAS THAT TODAY OR YESTERDAY OR MONDAY? I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REPEAT THOSE.
TO BE HONEST, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS.
UM, ONE, I JUST WANT TO HAVE IT REFLECTED, UH, MY LAST THING SPELLED WITH A PH TESTED OF ADMIT TO THAT.
AND ALSO WE HAVE AN, A MINUTES THAT, UH, WE ASKED FOR FUTURE MEETING MINUTES IF THEY COULD BE PROVIDED AT WAS A WEEK BEFORE THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS THERE WITH THAT AS AN AMENDMENT UNDER OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS, IT STATES THAT MS. SUNLIT SAID THAT THE COMMUNITY IS, THIS IS UNDER THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE, STATED THAT MS. SPELLMAN SAID THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN DRAFTING A STATEMENT FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS TO DENOUNCE RACISM AND EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR RACIAL SOLIDARITY.
BUT THAT WAS ACTUALLY AN INCORRECT STATEMENT.
AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE REFERENCE TO THE END.
SO WOULD LIKE TO PERMIT US TO BE YOU LIKE THAT.
WELL, IT SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT THAT MS. DUBLIN SAID THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN BACK IN THE STATEMENT FOR THE CITY OF HUMOR, ICELAND ANNOUNCED RACISM AND EXPRESSING SUPPORT.
THAT STATEMENT SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT, THAT THEY HAD CAUSED SOME SAMPLE RESOLUTIONS FROM OTHER CITIES THAT SHOULDN'T TAKE IT.
YOU WANT THAT TAKEN OUT AND INSTEAD PLAYS AT THE END WHERE IT'S A PLATE IT'S MISPLACED.
UM, ACTUALLY IT'S NOT THAT THE, THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE WAS NOT FAST IN THE STATEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PEOPLE HIGHEST.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY A RECOMMENDATION MADE THAT COUNCIL DO THAT.
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CALL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.ANY OPPOSITION TO THE MEETING REPORT? WE WILL.
SO THE REPORT COMMUNITY, UH, TURN ON
ON, UM, 17 FEBRUARY AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY ROOM.
THE MAIN FOCUS OF OUR, OUR LAST MEETING WAS TO REVIEW OUR CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH MR. STONEWARE AND, UH, UH, CHIEF LIGHTENER REGARDING THE NAACP EIGHT POINT PLAN.
AND TO ALSO DEVELOP AN INITIAL SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO TAKE THE FULL COUNCIL.
UH, THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE TARGETED WAS A NEED FOR A MORE DEFINED PROCESS, UM, WITH THE COMMISSION'S ROLE, AS IT RELATES TO ADDRESSING COMPLAINTS.
UH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE, DURING THE CONVERSATION WITH THEIR, I LEAVE WITH STRENGTHS, UM, IN TERMS OF MUST BE INVOLVED IN THE COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION PROCESS, HOW DO WE WANT TO SEE SOME, SEE SOME FORM OF INCREASED TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS? UH, MR. SOMA DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY DRAFT OF THIS COMPLAINTS, UH, IN MISCONDUCT DOCUMENT, WHICH IDENTIFIES, UH, WORKING COMPLAINTS CAN BE SUBMITTED.
UH, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY SPECIFY IN DETAIL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HOW WE WERE EMPOWERED IN TERMS OF, UH, ADDRESSING A COMPLAINT ONCE YOU SEE.
UM, SO FOLLOWING THAT WE, WE, UH, WE DISCUSSED THEM
AND SO, AND SO WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, THE POINTS FROM THE NAACP EIGHT POINT PLAN.
AND AS A RESULT, WE CAME UP WITH THE INITIAL SALES OF A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THAT WE WANT TO, THAT WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD.
I'LL HIGHLIGHT ALL SEVEN OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS JUST FOR EVERYONE'S AWARENESS.
HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO STATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
AND THEN I'LL MENTION SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE STILL WENT TO SCHOOL HOMEWORK ON BEFORE WE ACTUALLY, UH, TAKING BEFORE, UH, OR COMMISSIONING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER FOR, UM, IN TERMS OF INCORPORATION.
SO, UH, I GUESS THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, UM, THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE WANT TO TAKE FORWARD IS COMING BACK TO WHAT I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER.
SO AS A PART OF THE COMPLAINT REVIEW PROCESS, RIGHT, WE REQUESTED INCREASED TRANSPARENCY FOR CONDITIONED MEMBERS DURING AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION ABOVE EMPLOYEES SAY, EMPLOYER POLICE MISCONDUCT.
SO THE LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY SHOULD BE DEFINED IN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS.
AND, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, TRANSPARENCY, COULDN'T TELL, PROVIDED A COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION WITH PERIODIC STATUS UPDATES INTO THE INVESTIGATION, INCLUDING FINDINGS ALSO BE ABLE TO, UH, ALLOW FOR MAYBE Q AND A QA SESSIONS, IF YOU WILL, WITH THE, UH, UH, BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WILL, UH, DURING AND FOLLOWING AN INVESTIGATION.
SO THAT WAS OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND WORKING WITH, UH, WITH THE CITY TO DEFINE WHAT THAT IS AND HOW BEST TO ENSURE WE CAN, YOU CAN ACHIEVE THAT.
UH, THE NEXT, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT WE READ TOO, WAS THAT WE WANTED TO, UM, TO PROVIDE A QUARTERLY REPORT OF RESULTS FOR EACH COMPLAINT.
INVESTIGATION REPORTS INCLUDE, INCLUDE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE COMPLAINT INVESTIGATING INVESTIGATION FINDINGS, AND ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTION INVOLVES DISCIPLINE ACTION, UH, FOR OFFICER IF WARRANTED, IF YOU WILL.
UM, SO THAT WAS OUR SECOND RECOMMENDATION.
AND, UH, SEE OUR THIRD RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, WE WANT TO, WE WANTED, UH, A DRUG AND ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL TESTS ADMINISTERED TO OFFICERS THAT DISCHARGE THEIR WEAPONS.
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WE THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WERE REVIEWING THE POLICY.WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE WITH REGARDS TO THAT.
WE JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO LIKE, LIKE TO PUT ON THE TABLE.
UM, THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAD WAS, UM, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY INVESTIGATE, UM, SO OPTIONS TO, UH, HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS, COMPANY, UH, POLICE OFFICERS, UM, DURING CERTAIN CALLS INVOLVING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, RIGHT, OR, OR CASES, IF YOU WILL, TO INCLUDE DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADDICTION, SORT OF A SIMILAR TO WHAT WE, WE HAD, UH, WE SAW, I THINK IN KETTERING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS IS, UH, IMPLEMENTED A SIMILAR PROGRAM HERE RECENTLY WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIAL WORKERS THERE THAT ACCOMPANY, UH, POLICE OFFICERS DURING CERTAIN CALLS.
AND, UH, SO THOSE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WANT TO TAKE FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMISSIONER DID ONTO THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WE HAD ONE OTHER RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE MET WITH, UH, T LEITNER AND, UH, MR. SCHARMER, WHICH WAS, UH, WE WANTED THEM TO ADD ON THE WEBSITE ON THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES, IF YOU WILL, SOME OF THE GENERAL ORDERS.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED LOOKING AT THAT AND MR. SHARMA SAID, SO HE EMAILED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO KIND OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT FORMALLY, THAT THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION FROM CANVAS ISN'T WORK RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO SOME OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHEN THEY'RE READY TO TAKE FOR THAT, JUST FOR AWARENESS, WE WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE.
ONE HAS TO DO WITH, UM, HAS TO DO WITH THE BODY CAMERAS.
UH, SO I, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE NOW THAT IT IT'S, UH, IT'S A REQUIRED CALL.
IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT ALL POLICE OFFICERS ARE TO WEAR THEIR BODY CAMERAS.
HOWEVER, IN THE POLICY, IT SAYS THAT THEY DID SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO TURN THEM ON.
IT JUST SAYS THAT THEY, THEY CAN'T TURN THEM ON IF THEY, IF THEY, IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO CHOOSE TO CHOOSE, THEY CHOOSE TO.
SO, UM, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS WILL BECOME AS WELL.
WHY WOULD IT NOT BE REQUIRED FOR THEM TO TURN, TURN THE CAMERAS ON? BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, MAYBE MAKING SOME SORT OF CHANGE TO THAT POLICY, UH, AND THE OTHER, SORRY.
THE OTHER ONE HAD TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COMPLAINTS WE WERE DISCUSSING, WHETHER OR NOT WISHING YOU ALL COMPLAINTS, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO MAKE A POLICE COMPLAINT TO YOU ALL COMPLAINTS THAT COME INTO TO THE, INTO THE, UM, THAT COME TO THE CITY, TO THE CDC.
I MEAN, DOES OUR COMMISSION REVIEW THAT? SO WE WANT TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT COMPLAINTS DO WE WANT TO REPEAT, WHAT YOU WILL.
AND SO THAT, UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
JUST A QUESTION, MR. STEPHENS, YOU MENTIONED THE QUARTERLY REPORT OF COMPLAINTS.
IS THAT, UM, COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ARE THOSE GENERAL COMPLAINTS OR THE CITY? RIGHT.
SO I, SO OUR INITIAL FOCUS, UM, WITH THE REFORM WAS TO LOOK AT AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, RIGHT? SO THIS WAS MORE IN THE CONTEXT OF, UM, LOOKING AT POLICE COMPLACENT AND NOT TO SAY THAT IT SHOULD NOT INCLUDE LOOKING AT COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER, UM, CITY ORGANIZATIONS, IF YOU WILL.
BUT THE IDEA WAS, WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, I'M IN COURT RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY PROVIDE ANNUAL REPORT, UM, OF, UM, YOU KNOW, ARREST AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT STATISTICS ON, YOU KNOW, UH, CRIME STATISTICS AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO FIND SOMETHING LIKE, THEY THINK ABOUT IT THAT I THINK WHEN THE DOCUMENT DOCUMENTS THAT I SAW, BUT AGAIN, WE JUST, EVEN THIS CASE WHERE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE COMPLAINTS AGAIN, IT COULD BE DALLAS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BE OTHER, OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
UH, THAT AGAIN, UM, CLUES OR THE COMPLAINT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FINDINGS WERE AND WHAT THE RESOLUTION OF THE COMPLAINT, YOU KNOW, HOW WAS IT RESOLVED? HOW WAS IT JUDICATED? SO CURRENTLY THERE DOES EXIST A YEARLY REPORT.
IS THAT A PUBLIC REPORT THAT'S AVAILABLE? I KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UM, THERE USED TO BE UNFOUNDED WEBSITE.
THERE'S A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, BUT I THINK THE LAST DATE WHEN THAT WAS AUGUST, 2000 ON A LAKE, WHICH WAS, UM, I WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT THAT'S NOT CONTINUED BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY
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NEEDED FOR TRANSPARENCY WITH OUR CITY, BECAUSE IT HAD A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION, UM, INCLUDING SOME OF THINGS, MAYBE NOT TO THE LEVEL OF DETAIL WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPLAINT PROCESS, BUT JUST SOME OF THE STATISTICS AND THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR CITY.SO, UM, I THINK THAT ACTUALLY THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT TRANSPARENCY IN THE INFORMATION.
UM, SO, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY HAVING SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEREAS PROVIDING QUARTERLY TO THE COMPETITION, RIGHT.
JUST AN INCREASE IN THE FREQUENCY, RIGHT.
INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR A HANDLE FOR SOME OF THAT DATA ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION, CAN YOU SOMEWHAT, RIGHT.
SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE COMPLAINT PROCESS.
SO, I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, I GUESS, KEY RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS COMMISSION.
I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCOPE OR THE MISSION STATEMENT, RIGHT.
AND THEN THE, UH, WE BASICALLY GIVE THEM A MAYBE BOARD THEIR COMPLAINTS.
I THINK WE NEED TO FLESH OUT IN MORE DETAILED AS TO WHAT THAT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.
WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS, AND I KNOW WHEN WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. SCHOENBERGER, HE SAID, WELL, UM, WE WOULD BE, SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SUBMIT, SUBMIT IT ON PLANE, WE COULD INTERVIEW AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL ABOUT.
SO HOW, HOW DOES, HOW DO WE AS A GROUP, RIGHT? HOW ARE WE EMPOWERED TO, TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT COMPLAINANT AND ENSURE THAT IT'S BEING, UM, PROPERLY HANDLED AND PROCESSED, IF YOU WILL ALSO, IT'S REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, WE NEED TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY, VISIBILITY THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THIS TRUST THAT BOTH SIDES WE BUILD THE TRUST BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS.
AND SO WE JUST NEED TO, TO, TO DETAIL THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO YOUR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL IS, WELL, IT'S LIKE, I GUESS IT'S MORE SO TO, UH, I HAVEN'T DEFINED WHAT, THAT WE WANT MORE TRANSPARENCY.
SO I'M ASKING THEM FOR THEM TO REALLY HELP FLESH HELP DEVELOP THAT PROCESS.
A MORE DEFINED PROCESS IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE INVOLVED IN ONCE WE RECEIVE COMPLAINTS, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO? OR WHAT IS IT THAT WE, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO, YOU KNOW, I SAID IT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I GAVE WAS, YOU KNOW, COULD WE BE REVIVED WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, STATUS UPDATES RIGHT.
ON THE INVESTIGATION WHILE THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING, WOULDN'T WE BE ABLE TO GET STATUS UPDATES ON THE INVESTIGATION.
AND SO, UM, SO DOES THAT, DOES THAT HELP? THAT HELPS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION FORM IS THAT THERE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FIVE POSITIVES IDENTIFYING THE WORLD THAT THE COMMISSION CAN TAKE IN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS AND HAVE IDENTIFIED, IS THAT YOU'RE ASKING TO TAKE, HAVING IDENTIFIED THAT THE EXACT ROLE THAT WE'RE ASKING TO TAKE? NO, WE HAVEN'T.
WHAT QUESTIONS WOULD YOU HAVE FOR BEFORE? SO WE'RE GOING TO START THIS, UM, INCIDENT REPORT SYSTEM, AND IT'S GOING TO BASICALLY START, AND I THINK THIS IS WITH THE POLICE TO SEE HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS AND DEFINE THE ROLES.
I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT, BUT WE WILL EVENTUALLY OPEN THIS UP.
IS THAT MY PICTURE FROM LISTENING TO THE MEETING THIS WEEK FROM MR. SCHIRMER, THAT WE WILL EVENTUALLY OPEN THIS UP TO ALL BIASES, ALL INCIDENTS FOR ALL OF THE CITY.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE DOING WELL.
I JUST WANT TO REALLY PUSH YOU.
YOU'RE DOING A GREAT, GREAT BEGINNING.
START TO A WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO WE HAVE FOUR SOUNDS LIKE THE FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO TAKE TWO COUNTS THOUGH.
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THE QUARTERLY REPORT, QUARTERLY REPORT OF COMPLAINTS, THE SECOND DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING TO OFFICERS WHO DISCHARGED THE WEAPON OR FOR THE CITY TO INVESTIGATE, UM, UTILIZING OR INVOLVING THE HEALTH CARE AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR CRISIS FOR SOCIAL WORKERS OR COMPANY POLICE.AND THEN THE FOURTH WAS THE FILING PROCESS OR THE ROLE THAT THE COALITION WILL TAKE IN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS CLARIFYING THAT.
AND WHAT IS ALREADY IN WORK? I MENTIONED ABOUT, UM, THE, OR HAVING ON THE WEBSITE, UH, THE DEPARTMENT POLICY.
SO THEY'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ALREADY TAKEN THE ACTION TO START LOOKING INTO THAT, WHAT SPECIFIC POLICIES OR THOSE THAT, THAT WE'VE REQUESTED OR THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF, UM, GENERAL ORDERS SUCH AS USE OF FORCE, WHICH IS, UM,
SO THEY HAVE A LINE LISTING POLICIES OR ORDERS THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE, THAT THEY SHARE WITH US AND WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING.
I THINK THAT'S VERY NECESSARY IS THAT ACTUALLY THAT RESIDENTS APPROACHED ME AND ASKED ME, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE INCIDENT AND PROBABLY, UM, DISSOLVED AS OUR CITY HAD BODY CAMPS, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT EVEN AWARE OF IT.
AND SO I THINK IT IS A GREAT THING THAT OUR, UM, WE'RE PUTTING THAT ON THE WEBSITE AND MAKING THAT AVAILABLE SO THAT THE REPS ARE RESIDENTS KNOW.
SO WE HAD FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE FLOOR TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE FOUR.
I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY BACK UP TO NUMBER THREE, THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND THE SOCIAL WORKER OF ACCOMPANY.
WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THERE IS A TYPE OF PROGRAM, UM, THAT IS BEING PILOTED.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO WAIT ON, UM, A, GATHER SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM THE CITY BEFORE MOVING FORWARD AND MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THERE COULD BE SOMETHING IN PROCESS AND WE'RE JUST NOT COMPLETELY AWARE OF THAT ENTIRE SCOPE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO I PERSONALLY, AS PART OF REFORM, WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF PULL BACK ON NUMBER THREE.
UM, AND ONCE WE HAVE TIME TO HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THIS PILOT PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE, UM, INVOLVING PROBATE COURTS, UM, THEN WE CAN BACKTRACK AND MAYBE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATIONS TO SEEK OUT SOME GRANT FUNDING AND TO LOOK AT NAMI AND SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS FOR ASSISTANCE WITH THAT SOCIAL WORKER VISIT.
THE QUARTER REPORTS, ALCOHOL TEST
I MAKE A MOTION FOR RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE MET, UH, THE LAST MEETING
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WAS MONDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD.UM, WE DISCUSSED SEVERAL THINGS, THE FIRST ONE, WHICH WAS ABOUT THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH ESSAY CONTEST, WHICH, UH, CONCLUDED THIS PAST WEEK ON THE 28TH.
WE DID RECEIVE SEVERAL SUBMISSIONS FOR, UM, FOR EVALUATION OH SEVEN ESSAYS REVIEWED, EVALUATED BY THREE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
AND, UH, AND MY WIFE HAS ALSO ASSISTED WITH THE EVALUATION OBJECTIVITY JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE I FOUR AND WE'RE GOING TO INDEPENDENT EVALUATIONS OF THEM ALL.
AND THEN I'LL AGGREGATE THOSE AND THEN ADD INFORMATION TO YOU SOMETIME AFTER MONDAY.
SO WE'LL BE ON OUR DEADLINE FOR REPORTING.
UM, BUT THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE, UM, MONDAY.
AND I THINK WE SAID THE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL BE MADE BY THE 12TH OF ALL RIGHTS WEBSITE AND COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR WHOEVER THE WINNER IS.
WE DID RUN THROUGH SOME CHALLENGES WITH, UH, COMMUNICATING WITH STUDENTS FROM THE SCHOOL, AS YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT THEY HAD USED GOOGLE DOCS.
AND WHEN I NEED TO REQUEST PERMISSION FOR THE GOOGLE DOCS, THIS SYSTEM KICKBACK MY EMAIL BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED OUTSIDE EMAILS, CODING SYSTEM SYSTEM.
SO YOU RAN INTO THAT AND NEEDED THE, UM, THE, THE, UH, THE TEACHERS TO HELP FACILITATE THE SUBMISSION.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME SUBMISSIONS AND THOSE AGAIN ARE BEING EVALUATED.
AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME MENTION OF MONEY DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT IT WAS, UH, UH, GAMES OF CHANCE OR MAKE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD.
THAT IS, IS A OBJECTIVE PROCESS.
AND, UM, THE, THE PRIZE, IT WILL BE A CHECK ISSUED BY THE UP
UM, WE DISCUSSED, UH, CHANGING THAT TIME FROM TWO TO SIX AND THEN STARTING TO HAVE A LITTLE EARLIER.
SO THAT WOULD START AT 12 O'CLOCK INVITATIONS WILL BE SENT OUT, UM, TO, UH, UH, WE'LL SAY THE CULTURAL GROUPS THAT OPERATE IN NEW BRIAN'S INTO MIAMI AND BRING THEM INTO, UM, INTO OUR, UH, INTO OUR FESTIVAL.
THEN THERE'S AN, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND MAYBE SORT OF THOSE, THOSE FOLKS GET INVITATIONS AS WELL.
AND, UM, THERE WAS A FLYER AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE SENT THIS OUT YET, SO WE'D ALREADY DONE LITTLE PAY FOR THE TIME, SO I'LL PASS THAT AROUND.
BUT, UM, AND THE THEME IS ENGAGED IN OUR COMMUNITIES, UNITED CULTURE, CELEBRATING ALL PEOPLE.
AND AGAIN, THIS WILL BRING TOGETHER THE ROBERT HUBER HEIGHTS COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE ONCOLOGISTS AND LEARNING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CULTURES THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN COMPLETELY ABOUT THEM TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THEM EXPOSURE TO EACH OTHER.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE FESTIVAL.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A, UM, A WONDERFUL EVENT.
WE HAVE SOME, SOME PRETTY ENTHUSIASTIC FOLKS WORKING ON THAT VIDEO AND ROBIN AND GENE
HE WANTS ME TO SOLIDIFY, I'M SORRY TO THE CONDITION WANTS TO SOLIDIFY THOSE DETAILS OF
WE ARE HAVING A WORKING SESSION LEADING.
AND IF YOU COULD REMIND ME, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE, BUT I WANT TO SAY MARCH 12TH, 2015 MARCH.
AND, UM, JUST AGAIN, THAT MEETING WAS JUST TO GO OVER SOME OF THE DETAILS AND MAYBE THE STORY THAT WE ARE LONG TRACK TIME-WISE AS FAR AS MAKING, AS FAR AS GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, UH, COMMITMENTS FROM OTHER PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN OUR, AND WHAT WOULD BE SEEKING VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
WE'RE WORKING ON FINALIZING THAT DOCUMENT.
NOW FACEBOOK PAGE, I DON'T KNOW, EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT WE DO HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE, PLEASE LIGHTEN BOTTLE.
I DO WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF ONE THING.
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SPONSORSHIPS FOR THE BLACK HISTORY CONTEST, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THINK THOSE KIND OF, HOW MUCH WAS IT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET FOR THE BLACK HISTORY CLASS.SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S TREMENDOUS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE A HAND FOR A NEW ONE THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH EDUCATION.
THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE ALSO MEANT ON FEBRUARY 23RD, WE HAD THE MEETING VIA A HYBRID FORMAT AT THE HEBREW HEIGHTS POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY ROOM.
DURING THIS MEETING, WE DID A EVALUATION OF THE FOUR PROPOSED OR THE FORUM TOPICS THAT WE WANTED TO DO FOR THIS YEAR.
THE FIRST TOPIC PERTAINED TO A DIALOGUE, AS FAR AS DIVERSITY INCLUSION ALSO HAVE COVID-19 AFFECTS MINORITY COMMUNITIES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND GROWTH FOR MY NOTE, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES.
AND FINALLY RACISM HAS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.
NOW AT THE TIME THAT WE BENT, WE KNEW THAT TO BE COUNCIL STILL HAD TO GO OVER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS A WHOLE IN TERMS OF THE COMMISSION, AS FAR AS OUR PHYSICAL REQUEST TO INCLUDE THESE FORUMS. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE DECIDED AS A COMMITTEE TO ONLY HAVE TWO FORMS, AND THE TWO TOPICS FOR THESE FORUMS INCLUDE NUMBER ONE, A DIALOGUE WITH THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL, AND THE RESIDENTS TO TALK ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, AND ALSO ISSUES IN TERMS OF DISCRIMINATION, BIASES, AND SYSTEMATIC RACISM.
AND THE OTHER TOPIC WE DECIDED UPON WAS TO DISCUSS RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.
NOW FROM REVIEWING THE PAST TWO PRIOR COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS, THERE WERE SOME MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, WHICH I THINK YOU ALL WEREN'T HERE THAT HAD VOLUNTEERED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS DIALOGUE.
AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT AS A POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR THIS DIALOGUE IS HAVE IT AT THE HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY ROOM, WHERE WE CAN HAVE A FACEBOOK LIVE FOR RESIDENTS WHO CANNOT PHYSICALLY ATTEND THE STILL BEING ENGAGED IN THE CONVERSATION.
SO THE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE TO CONVENE AGAIN TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION, AS FAR AS WHEN WE WANT TO HAVE THIS EVENT IN ORDER TO BRING IT FORTH, HAS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONE MAJOR ACTIVITY COMING UP REGARDING YOU GUYS TO THE, UM, CULTURE AS WELL, COMING UP.
SO WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THAT, BUT DEFINITELY WE WILL WANT TO HAVE THIS SOMETIME AFTERWARDS.
SO RIGHT BEFORE THE FALL SEASON, AND WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST TWO TO THREE MONTHS IN TERMS OF COORDINATION, BUT JUST IT'S ADVERTISEMENT BECAUSE THIS TOPIC IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ALL ARE AWARE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE FULL PARTICIPATION OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE CONSTITUENTS OR PEOPLE HEIGHTS IN REGARDS TO THE OTHER TOPIC, PERTAINING TO RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, THE COMMITTEE WENT TO HAVE THIS FORUM IN THE FALL AND ENGAGED MR. COLTON YEARLY TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THAT.
AND ALSO I KNOW OF SOME MEMBERS OF THE END, THE LACY, HE, THAT MAY BE INTERESTED.
SO, AS I MENTIONED TO THE COMMITTEE, DURING OUR MEETING, I WILL ENGAGE WITH THEM TO SEE THEIR ABILITY IN THAT WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE WEB PAGE, WHICH ALL FOUR COMMITTEES I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MAKE SOME TIME WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO DO A CONTINUING WORKING SESSION.
SO WE CAN START PROPOSING OR IDEAS TO BRING FORTH TO THE COMMISSION AND THEREFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED OUR STANDING MEETING DATE, WHICH AGAIN IS GOING TO BE THE FOURTH, TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH FROM SIX 30, UNTIL SEVEN 30
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IS STILL THIS HYBRID FORMAT WHILE WE'RE STILL INDEPENDENT.AND THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT COMING FROM EDUCATION COMMITTEE.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAME ORIGINAL.
UM, YOU ANTICIPATED DOING THE FOUR QUARTERLY SESSIONS AND YOU, IT WAS REDUCED TO TWO BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY, THE BUDGET, CORRECT.
SO YOU WERE UNABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, CORRECT.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE PUSHED THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR BUDGET FOR THAT.
UM, I LIKED THE IDEA AND ACTUALLY, I THINK IT WAS, UM, COUNCILMAN SHAW THAT MENTIONED DOING A TOWN HALL AND THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH I THOUGHT, WOW, THAT'S AN AWESOME IDEA BECAUSE IT REALLY OPENS UP THE DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS, AND REALLY STARTS TO, UM, TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND THE CHALLENGES AND ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND CHALLENGES.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE IMPERATIVE THING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ISSUES, ESPECIALLY THE ISSUE OF RACE.
I KNOW IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE AND THAT'S OKAY.
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE COMFORTABLE, BUT IT HELPS US GROW, RIGHT.
YOU CAN'T GET MUSCLE WITHOUT TEARING THE MUSCLE DOWN AND YOU CAN'T GET STRONG WITHOUT TEARING DOWN THAT MUSCLE AND GOING THROUGH SOME PAIN OR SO THERE'LL BE SOME GROWING PAINS.
THERE'LL BE SOME, THERE'LL BE CHALLENGES, BUT WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN GROW AND WE CAN BECOME STRONGER AS A COMMUNITY.
SO I DEFINITELY LOVE THE IDEA OF GETTING ON CITY COUNCIL INVOLVED WITH THIS.
AND THEN IT WAS MENTIONED THAT AS I SAID TO THEM, BY MR. SHAW AS A, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY.
SO I STILL WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT BOARD TO SIT IN COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE, THE COUNCIL IS ON BOARD WITH DOING THIS TOWN HALL AND HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
AND I'M VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE ARE OPEN TO OUR RESIDENTS AND HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION OR EDUCATION TO MOVE FORWARD, TO TAKE TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO, TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE THAT CITY COUNCIL POST THIS TOWN HALL, AND WE'RE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND THEN FACILITATE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, UM, HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
YOU'VE ALREADY HAD IDENTIFY SOME OF THE AREAS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO, THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT.
IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, MAYBE WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW SOME OF THE FACEBOOK PAGES OR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CITY PAGES, UM, AND THEN REALLY GET OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THESE DISCUSSIONS, MADAM CHAIR, WHERE THEY GOT THE BUDGET, THAT IS DEFINITELY TO BE VOTED ON THAT MOMENT THAT WAS MADE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
SO WE WILL KNOW THEN ABOUT THE BUDGET WE MEET NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK, MONDAY THIS MONDAY.
JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE, WE KNOW WHERE TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE ONE RECOMMENDATION ON THE TABLE AND THAT IS TO A RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE TO CITY COUNCIL, TO HOST THE TOWN HALL COMMUNITY TOWN HALL, TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF RACE BIAS DISCRIMINATION, AND HAVE A OPEN CONVERSATION WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT FORWARD? SECOND, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSITION ADVOCACY.
SO THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE MET LAST, UM, IN DECEMBER, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
AND WE HAD NOT MET SINCE WE DO HAVE A TENTATIVE SCHEDULE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN MARCH.
UM, YOU HAVE TO PUT A DATE OUT THERE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE LINES.
WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY ROOM IS AVAILABLE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUR TIME TOGETHER.
SO WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING THIS MONTH.
UM, SO WHAT ARE THE LIKE TO DO FIRST BEFORE I GIVE HIM MY REPORT? IS IT NORMALLY THEY'RE ALL OVER YOUNG PEOPLE.
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THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE WE DID NOT DO THERE.UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT.
AND I'M SO PROUD OF HIM FOR BEING HERE.
THEY ARE ADVOCATES FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE.
UM,
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT TO RIGHT STAN SMITH RIGHT THERE.
SO, UM, I ALWAYS WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOUNG PEOPLE.
UM, SO BEFORE I KIND OF GO THROUGH OUR ADVOCACY, WHAT I'LL DO IS KIND OF WRAP UP WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST MEETING.
AND THEN I WANT TO JUST KIND OF GO INTO WHY ADVOCACY IS NECESSARY, THRIVE IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND.
UM, SO BEFORE I GET STARTED, I KIND OF JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADVOCACY AND ACTIVISM.
UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TIMES I THINK WE MIXED UP THE TWO.
AND SO I WANT TO OUR COMMISSION, OUR JOB IS TO ADVOCATE, BUT AT SOMETIMES IT MAY NECESSARILY BE HONEST.
SO ALSO ACTIVATE, UM, AND ADVOCACY IS REALLY THOUGHT OF AS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE SYSTEM OR ACTIVISM HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF THE SYSTEM.
SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE ADVOCATED FOR ONE OF OUR MINORITY BUSINESSES WAS BY HAVING A UNITY RALLY.
UM, WE HAD A UNITY ROUNDING FOR THE TURKISH STORE BECAUSE I HAD SEVERAL ACTS OF VANDALISM AND WE WANTED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE SUPPORTED THEM, THAT WE WERE STANDING IN SOLIDARITY WITH THEM, THAT THEY WERE WELCOME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS ON OUR COMMISSION THROUGH THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE THAT WE REACH OUT AND HELP LOCAL MINORITY BUSINESSES.
UM, SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT, NO, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT IT'S NEEDED.
UM, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE TIMES, UNLESS YOU HAVE WALKED IN THOSE SHOES AND YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT OF A MINORITY BUSINESS OWNER, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A TRUE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MINORITY BUSINESS OWNERS GO THROUGH ON A DAY TO DAY BUSINESS, JUST TO KEEP DOORS OPEN, TO GET THE FUNDING THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WANTED TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES.
UM, SO I WANTED TO JUST MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY DO TO ADVOCATE OR LETTER WRITING, MEETING WITH POLITICIANS, UH, WE MAY RUN PUBLIC FORUMS. UH, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CITY GOVERNMENTS, UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF STATE THAT SOMETIMES THOSE QUESTIONS MAY BE TOUGH AND IT MAY SEEM LIKE WE'RE CHALLENGING, BUT THOSE QUESTIONS ARE NECESSARY TO GAIN CLARITY.
UM, SO I WANNA, YOU JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.
WE MAY ALSO PARTICIPATE IN CONSULTATION PROCESSES LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF ADVOCATING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NOT JUST EQUALITY BECAUSE EQUALITY IS NOT ENOUGH.
AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT QUALITY, YOU GIVE EVERYBODY THE SAME TOOLS, THE SAME RESOURCES AND THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES YOU GIVE EVERYBODY TO SEE AT THE TABLE, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME DOES EQUITY.
I WANT YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
IMAGINE BEING AT A BASEBALL GAME AND YOU HAD THREE PEOPLE AT THE GAME, YOU HAVE A MAN THAT'S SEVEN FOOT TALL AND THERE'S A FIVE FOOT FIVE FENCE OR A FIVE FOOT FENCE.
YOU HAVE A LADY WHO'S FIVE FOOT TALL AND YOU HAVE A DISABLED WOMAN.
IF YOU GIVE EVERYBODY A BOX, IS THAT THE, IS THAT A QUALITY? YES, BECAUSE YOU GAVE EVERYBODY A BOX, BUT IT'S THE DISABLED CITIZEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE GAME? NO, BECAUSE SHE CAN'T GET ON THE BOX IS THE WOMAN THAT'S FIVE FOOT, FIVE OR FIVE FOOT.
IS SHE GONNA HAVE THE SAME ACCESSIBILITY TO THE GAME AS THE VAN THAT SEVEN FOOT TALL? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
BUT IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE BOX FROM THE BAND, CAUSE HE DON'T NEED THE BOX AND GIVE THAT BOX TO THE WOMAN, SHE'LL HAVE THE SAME ACCESSIBILITY TO THE GAME AS HE WILL.
AND THEN THE DISABLED WOMAN, SHE DOESN'T NEED A BOX.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EQUALITY AND EQUITY, THERE'S A VERY DIFFERENCE.
WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING TOO LONG FOR EQUALITY IN OUR SYSTEM.
AND WHAT WE NEED IS ACTUALLY, WE NEED TO GIVE EVERYBODY
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FAIR OPPORTUNITY ASSESSMENT.THEY'LL LEAD TO THE SAME THING, WHETHER IT'S HIRING, POLICING, WHATEVER THE CASE IS, HEALTHCARE, AND IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
AND WE REALLY NEED OUR CITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT EQUALITY AND EQUITY ARE NOT THE SAME DAY.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO ADVOCATE.
THAT'S WHY, WHEN THINGS HAPPEN LIKE VANDALISM, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO GO AND SUPPORT OUR MINORITY BUSINESSES.
AND ARE WE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING ACROSS THE BOARD? ABSOLUTELY.
BUT HOW HARD IS IT FOR A MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS TO GET RESOURCES TOGETHER, TO REBUILD THEIR BUSINESS, TO PUT ON A NEW ROOF, TO TAKE CARE OF REMOVING VANDALISM OFF THE SIDE OF THEIR BUILDING? HOW HARD IS IT FOR THEM WHEN THEY ALREADY STARTED OUT WITHOUT THE EQUITY? THAT'S WHY WE NEED ADVOCACY.
UM, SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID THROUGH ACT, LET'S SEE AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT STATEMENTS OF SOLIDARITY OR STATEMENTS OF SUPPORT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR COUNSELORS DO IS WHEN THINGS HAPPEN AND UNDER CITIES, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO SHOW SUPPORT TO OTHER CITIES, THERE WAS CASEY GOODS.
AND I THINK IN COLUMBUS, HOW ARE WE SHOWING OTHER CITIES THAT WE SUPPORT THEM WHEN THEY HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, THAT COULD BE HUBER HEIGHTS VERY WELL COULD BE HUBER HEIGHTS AND WE NEED TO EXTEND SUPPORT TO OTHER CITIES.
UM, IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR US TO JUST TALK ABOUT CULTURE AND TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY.
WE WILL NEVER GET TO TRUE CULTURE UNTIL WE FIRST ADDRESS STRUCTURAL RACISM.
WE NEED DIVERSITY AND WE NEED INCLUSION.
IT'S BOTH AND ALL, WE NEED IT ALL.
AND IT'S UNTIL WE CAN ADDRESS STRUCTURAL RACISM, WE CAN'T GET TO ANY OF THAT.
IT'S REAL FOR ALL OF US SITTING UP HERE, IT'S REAL FOR THOSE STUDENTS IN THE BACK, WE HAVE GOT TO ADDRESS STRUCTURAL RACISM, CITY OFFICIALS.
YOU ARE OUR BIGGEST ALLIES BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VOICE.
YOU ARE ELECTED AND PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOU.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.
WHEN THEY HEAR IT FROM YOUR VOICE, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE.
SO WE NEED YOU TO BE ADVOCATES FOR CHANGE.
WE NEED YOU TO BE ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY.
WE NEED YOU TO BE ADVOCATES FOR DIVERSITY.
WE NEED YOU TO BE ADVOCATES FOR INCLUSION ALTOGETHER.
HE SAID THE PIE OUT OF THE EQUATION.
UM, THE OTHER THING, THESE MINORITY ON BUSINESSES STRUGGLE.
HOW MANY OF US UP HERE ARE MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES? RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE A MINORITY ON BUSINESS OWNER ON THIS.
HAVE YOU GUYS APPLIED FOR PVP HELP WORKING ON IT, GET WITH YOUR BANKERS, MAKE SURE YOU CAN EVEN APPLY FOR THE LAST YEARS.
THAT WILL BE FORGIVEN AND YOU CAN APPLY FOR THIS YEAR'S RUN.
MAKE SURE YOU SPREAD THE WORD WHERE, WHERE CAN WE TALK ABOUT, OKAY.
I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO, BECAUSE IT IS BEFORE WE DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR PPP BECAUSE, UM, I AM MY BUSINESS AND I'M SURE GLEN AND ANDY, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE, ANDY'S IN HER BUSINESS.
IT'S TOUGH WHEN IT'S JUST YOU.
SO WHEN THEY GIVE A PAY A PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM TO A 500 MAN GROUP, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN GIVING IT TO THE LITTLE, THE LITTLE WOMAN OR A LITTLE MAN ON THE TOTEM POLE.
AND HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH, YOU'RE LESS THAN 20 EMPLOYEES.
SO I URGE THOSE NEW RULES, BUT THEN NICHE, PLEASE GET WITH ME.
ACTUALLY THEY TOLD US MARCH SEX FOR WHAT VITAMIN ROLLED OUT, BUT WE'LL WE'LL BEAR.
I SAY EVEN THAT, EVEN WHAT YOU SAID, THE MISCOMMUNICATION OF INFORMATION, BECAUSE BIDEN IS TARGETING MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES.
BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW TO APPLY, THEN WE CAME IN.
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SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.WE MAY NOT NEED AS MUCH AS REFORM.
WE MAY NOT NEED AS MUCH AS EDUCATION, BUT TRUST AND BELIEVE BEHIND THE SCENES.
WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE STATE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN SURROUNDING CITIES.
AND WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE ON TOP OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND HOW WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE IN OUR CITY.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN OUR CITY THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT.
UNLESS YOU'RE THE ONE TRYING TO GET HEALTHCARE AND DOCTORS AND DENTISTS TELL YOU, THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT YOU COVERAGE.
SO YOU HAVE TO GO OUT OF THE COMMUNITY TO GET CARE.
WHAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR? SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT, NOT FROM OUR LENS, BUT THROUGH THE LENS OF SOMEONE WHO IS NOT LIKE YOU.
WHAT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CAR? HOW COULD YOU GET TO THE DOCTOR? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, HOW WOULD YOU GET THAT? SO WE HAVE TO REALLY PUT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LEGS AND THINK ABOUT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THEN TRULY YOU CAN ADVOCATE FOR SOMEONE ELSE VERY WELL.
AND I THINK, UM, WHETHER THE KEY THINGS THAT HE SAID IS THAT, WELL, WE NEED EVERYBODY TO ADVOCATE.
WE EVERYONE, AND WE NEED ALLIES.
ALSO, WE NEED RECOGNITION THAT THERE IS A TRUE ISSUE, THAT THIS IS REAL, UM, ESPECIALLY FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE IF THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR ONE COMMUNITY MEMBER, THEN IT BECOMES AN ISSUE FOR A CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT HAS TO WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAVE ROUGHLY, I KNOW, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 30% AFRICAN AMERICAN.
DIDN'T MAKE IT OUT 8% OTHER, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, WE DO HAVE A VERY DIVERSE, SOME ARE, WERE D I BELIEVE THE MOST DIVERSE SUBURB IN THIS AREA.
BUT AGAIN, THE DIVERSITY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE'S INCLUSION.
SO WE HAVE DIVERSITY JUST BY OSMOSIS.
WE LOOK AROUND THIS ROAD AND WE ALL LOOK DIFFERENT.
WE COME FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
SOME ARE BUSINESS OWNERS, STUFF, WORK FOR COMPANIES.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S DIVERSITY.
RIGHT? BUT THE INCLUSION IS INTENTIONAL.
YOU HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL WITH INCLUSION.
YOU CAN INVITE ME TO THE PARTY OR TO THE TABLE ALL THE TIME, ANYTIME.
BUT IF YOU DON'T INVITE ME TO DANCE, OR IF YOU DON'T INVITE ME TO EAT WITH YOU, EVEN THOUGH I'M AT THE TABLE, THEN I'M NOT INCLUDED.
SO DIVERSITY WITHOUT INCLUSION IS NOTHING.
AND WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO, TO OUR RESIDENTS, TO LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS.
AND I ASK HIM FOR OF OUR LEADERSHIP TO DO THAT.
WE ALL HAVE USED OUR VOICES ON THIS COMMISSION, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, WE DON'T TAKE ANY OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS LIGHTLY, BUT REMEMBER THAT WE WERE RESIDENTS FIRST AND THESE ISSUES THAT WE BRING FORWARD ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I ASKED THAT THINGS THEY REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, AGAIN FROM A DIFFERENT LENS THAN YOUR OWN.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE.
IF YOU'RE USED TO LOOKING AT THINGS FROM A CERTAIN PERSPECTIVE, IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT IT FROM ANY OTHER PERSPECTIVE, BUT WHAT WILL MAKE THAT EASIER IS HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS, TALKIE, EXPLORING, UNDERSTANDING SOMEONE ELSE'S WORLD AND NOT JUST OUR OWN.
AND I THINK THAT THE, THE TOWN HALL WILL BE A GOOD STEP TO DOING THAT, TO OPENING UP SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT DIVERSITY TRAINING WITHIN OUR CITY RECOGNITION FROM OUR CITY, THAT RACISM IS REAL.
THAT'S ANOTHER STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, DENOUNCING VERSUS A MASSIVE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
ANOTHER STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION,
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BECAUSE TO THIS POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, I'M NOT SEEING MY CITY ADDRESS ANY OF THIS ISSUE OF RACISM.THAT'S KILLING PEOPLE AROUND THE UNITED STATES.
I'VE HEARD NOTHING FROM MY CITY.
AND WHEN YOU SIT SILENT, IT'S REALLY SAYING THAT YOU CONDONE IT, YOU SEND A MESSAGE THROUGH YOUR SILENCE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO SAY.
WE DON'T WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR RESUMES, THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE HAVE TO KNOW, WE HAVE TO LET OUR COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THIS DOES MATTER, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE ARE CONSTANTLY, WE'LL HEAR ONE ANOTHER.
WE WILL CELEBRATE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS COMMISSION CAME ABOUT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT RACISM TO DESTROY OUR COMMUNITY AS IT HAS DONE IN SO MANY COMMUNITIES AROUND US.
THAT'S WHY THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, RON.
I MEAN, RON, THE ANNUAL AUDIT I ADD TO YOUR STATEMENTS.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF ISSUES HAVE BEEN COMING UP ABOUT ADVOCACY AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDING OTHER, OTHER UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS, BUT IT'S WHAT THE WORK THAT THIS IS DOING.
DOES IT BENEFIT JUST ONE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, ALL UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS, FOR INSTANCE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT VIOLENCE AGAINST THE ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER COMMUNITY HAS INCREASED BY 150%.
WE HAVE A NEIGHBORING CITY WHOSE BUSINESS AND AI BUSINESSES SHUTTING DOWN BECAUSE OF VANDALISM AND HATE.
SO, I MEAN, THIS IS A BUSINESS WHO'S 10 MINUTES AWAY FROM HERE.
THIS HAPPENED HERE WITH OUR TURKISH BUSINESS.
SO THIS IS STUFF THAT'S HITTING HOME WITH ALL OF THIS.
SO THIS WORK IS SO INCLUSIVE OR ALL GROUPS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU SPEAK OUT FOR ONE GROUP OR SPEAKING OUT FOR ALL UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS, I I'M, I'M, I'M GOING TO GET EMOTIONAL, BUT I IT'S JUST, I GET TIRED.
WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THIS GROUP? WHAT ABOUT THIS GROUP? WHAT ABOUT THIS GROUP IS WORKING ALL GROUPS.
WE ARE DOING WONDERFUL WORK, AWESOME WORK.
THEY AVERAGE COMMITTEE IS INCLUSIVE AND CELEBRATING CULTURES.
THIS IS A NINE MEMBER COMMISSION OF WONDERFUL GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SO EDUCATED.
AND SO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS TOPIC THAT WE ARE DOING THAT WORK.
SO THERE ARE ALL CULTURAL BEINGS CELEBRATED ALONG WITH THAT.
WE ARE DOING THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK.
IT'S SETTING UP THINGS THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS COMMUNITY.
SO A HUNDRED TIMES BETTER THAN WE ARE.
NOBODY'S SAYING WE'RE A BAD COMMUNITY AT ALL, BUT THIS IS OUR HOME AS WELL.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE US, ALSO OUR HOME HERE AND THERE ARE TIMES IN THIS WORLD NOW WHERE IT'S HARD FOR THAT.
AND IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO JUST GO OUT OF YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT FEELING THAT, I MEAN, AS PARENTS, I CAN'T SEND MY SON OUTSIDE WITHOUT FEELING THAT HE MAY NOT COME BACK THE LINE JUST BECAUSE HE LOOKS THE WAY HIS LOOK BECAUSE SKIN COLOR, IT'S JUST THAT FEAR AS A MOM THAT I JUST HAVE.
AND I HAVE NOWHERE NEAR THE FEAR AS MY FELLOW, OTHER MOMS WHO ARE, WHO ARE OUR BLACK MOTHERS WITH THEIR BLACK SONS, BECAUSE THEY FACE A LOT MORE THAN WHAT MY SON IS.
SO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEIR EXPERIENCE OR MIND SQUARES.
IT DOESN'T VALIDATE BECAUSE WE DON'T, YOU'RE NOT SEEING US WORK.
DOESN'T SEEM IT'S LIKE WHEN I'M TRYING TO SAY THIS IS ONLY, WE ARE NOT EXCLUDING ANY GROUPS.
WE'RE NOT EXCLUDING ANYBODY BECAUSE TO DO TRUE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION WORK, WE HAVE TO BE INCLUDED CLOSER.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU WERE SAYING, THIS IS THE THING WE HAVEN'T WORKED.
IT SAYS DIVERSITY, MINUS INCLUSION EQUALS X SCHOOL.
WE HAVE TO INCLUDE ALL GROUPS.
YOU MAY NOT SEE THAT RIGHT NOW.
LIKE HE MAY SEE THE MLK BLACK HISTORY MONTH ONLY BECAUSE THOSE EVENTS ARE HAPPENING.
NOW, THINGS ARE COMPETING IN THE FUTURE.
SO THAT WORK IS BEING DONE AND NOBODY'S EXCLUDING ANY GROUPS.
NOBODY THAT'S INTENTIONALLY ANY OF THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE'RE ON THIS CONVERSATION THAT ALL THIS WORK WE'RE DOING DOES NOT BENEFIT JUST ONE PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.
IT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE.
AND I WILL ADD ONE OTHER THING.
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IMPORTANT.AND I PROMISE THIS WILL BE THE LAST THING I SAY, RIGHT?
WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS IF YOU'RE DISABLED? IF YOU'RE PART OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, IF YOU'RE A PART OF, IF YOU'RE IN A LOW INCOME GROUP.
SO WHEN WE BEGIN TO SAY, DON'T FOCUS ON JUST THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FIRST LAYER OF RACISM.
THAT'S FIRST, IF YOU'RE THEN A PART OF ANOTHER MARGINALIZED GROUP, YOU'RE GETTING DOUBLE YOUR YOU'RE GETTING A DOUBLE DIGIT.
SO WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE FIRST LATER, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THE FIRST LAYER, NOTHING ELSE WILL MATTER.
THAT'S THE THING I WANT YOU ALL TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS CONVERSATION UNTIL WE ADDRESS THE TOP LAYER.
THAT'S THE STRUCTURE PART IS THE SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES THAT KEEP PEOPLE OF COLOR AND PEOPLE HATE TO HEAR THAT.
NOBODY IN HERE IS COLOR BLIND.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE ME? DOES EVERYBODY SEE ME FOR WHO I AM? BECAUSE I SEE EVERYBODY.
AND UNTIL WE BEGIN TO SEE PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE, NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE.
WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES FIRST, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, YOU WILL NEVER SEE DIVERSITY.
YOU WON'T SEE DIVERSE CANDIDATES BEING HIRED.
YOU WON'T SEEK DIVERSE CANDIDATES APPLYING FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE POSITIONS.
YOU'LL NEVER SEE IN THE SYSTEM, YOU WON'T SEE MINORITY TEACHERS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SO THIS THING IS, IT'S JUST A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT.
AND THE LEADERS ACROSS OUR CITY HAVE GOT TO EMBRACE EVERYTHING THEY DO THROUGH A RACIAL EQUITY LENS.
EVERY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE HAS TO BE MADE THROUGH A RACIAL EQUITY LENS AND ASK YOURSELF WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A DECISION IS WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW, RACIALLY EQUITABLE.
IT'S THAT SIMPLE BECAUSE WE CAN CHOOSE TO BE RACIALLY EQUITABLE.
EVERY DECISION WE MAKE, WE HAVE A CHOICE, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THE STATUS QUO OR WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE A CHANGE, WE HAVE A CHOICE.
DON'T EVER THINK THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE.
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO BE FOR SOMETHING OR CHOOSE TO BE AGAINST IT.
AND WHAT I NEED IS I NEED CITY LEADERSHIP.
EVEN IF IT MEANS YOU LOSE YOUR SEAT, THAT YOU STAND FOR SOMETHING AND DON'T FALL FOR EVERYTHING.
AND I MEAN THAT FROM MY HEART, I TALKED TO EACH ONE OF YOU, EACH ONE OF YOU SITTING HERE AT SOME LEVEL, MR. SHAW, I NEED YOU TO STAY ON FOR SOMETHING, OKAY? I NEED YOU TO STAND FOR SOMETHING, GLENN.
I NEED YOU TO STAND FOR SOMETHING AND ED, I NEED YOU TO STAND FOR SOMETHING.
I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU'RE REPUBLICAN.
I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT.
I NEED YOU TO STAND FOR SOMETHING AND BE WILLING TO STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT.
WHEN YOU KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT.
EVEN IF THAT MEANS THAT YOU DON'T KEEP A SEAT, YOUR INTEGRITY IS INTACT.
YOUR CHARACTER WILL NEVER BE QUESTIONED AND YOU WILL BE RESPECTED BY EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU STAND FOR SOMETHING, KATIE, THE SAME APPLIES TO YOU.
I NEED YOU TO STAY UP FOR SOMETHING, BRIAN, I NEED YOU TO STAY UP FOR SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT IS HOW OUR CITY WILL EMBRACE OUR MISSION.
THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN GROW IS IF WE ARE WILLING TO STAND FOR SOMETHING, SPEAK OUT AGAINST SOMETHING.
WHEN WE KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG, EVEN IF IT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GAIN THE POCKETS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
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THAT IS THAT CLOSES OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS MOVE ON TO OLD BUSINESS.WE HAVE COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION OF THINGS IS THE FIRST ITEM.
DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS? IS THERE SOMEONE FROM THE CITY THAT'S US A
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES THAT I TOOK FROM THE COUNCIL MEETING, UM, UH, REGARDING SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ME.
I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNCIL THAT TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS AND THEN CABLE, THOSE AND THE NEXT MEETING AND, UH, AND WHATNOT.
BUT, UM, JUST QUICKLY FOR MY NOTES, UH, AS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE, UH, THE ESSAY CONTEST WAS, UH, WAS APPROVED WITH RESPECT TO FUNDING.
UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PROCEDURAL ISSUES THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY COUNCIL, BUT, UH, THAT WAS NOT, UH, THAT WAS NOT A PARTICULAR ISSUE OF CONCERN.
UH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WEBSITE, UM, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUESTS THAT CAME FROM THE COMMISSION.
UH, CURRENTLY THE WEBSITE IS SET UP, UM, VISUALLY TO REPRESENT, UH, PLACES OF THE CITY SO MUCH AS THE POPULATION OF THE CITY.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE WERE A REQUEST FOR SOME MORE, UH, DIVERSITY INCLUSIONARY PHOTOS, UH, TO BE PRESENT ON THE WEBSITE.
SO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL, UH, TO CONSIDER THAT REQUEST IN SHIFTING FROM A PLACE FOCUSED VISUAL TO A PEOPLE FOCUSED VISUAL.
SO, UH, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS SOME DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD WITH MY COUNCIL.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, UH, THERE WERE, UH, THERE WAS CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING, UH, THE STATEMENT, OPPOSING RACISM, UM, BEING POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, AS WELL AS, UH, STATIC INFORMATION ON WHAT TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE, UH, ITS MEMBERSHIP IN CONTACT AVAILABILITY.
I BELIEVE THOSE WERE ALL POINTS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT BY THE COMMISSION THAT WERE FROM BY COUNCIL.
UH, THERE WAS SOME QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE RESOURCE INFORMATION RESOURCE GUIDE AND THE CALENDAR, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WERE DISCUSSED ABOUT THE COMMISSION AND THEN A COUNCIL, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THERE WERE ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO MAINTENANCE EXPECTATIONS, UH, THE TYPES OF RESOURCES THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING ON THE WEBSITE, HOW OFTEN THOSE, UH, WOULD BE, UH, WOULD NEED TO BE MAINTAINED BY STAFF.
SO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T RECALL ANY SPECIFIC DIRECTION, UH, FROM COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO THAT.
UH, BUT, UH, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME SECONDARY DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING A UNIFIED CALENDAR FOR ALL OF THE COMMISSIONS AND ALL THE CITY ACTIVITY.
UH, SO I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT AT THE STAFF LEVEL, BUT THAT SEEMED TO BE THE CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL WAS THAT, UH, A MORE ACTIVE UNIFIED, UH, RECOGNIZABLE CALENDAR WAS APPROPRIATE.
UH, IN ADDITION TO WHICH, UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR COUNSEL, IT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, UH, FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE AMOUNT OF A LITTLE BIT WAS A $15,000 TO BE MOVED INTO THE COMMISSION'S BUDGET.
SO BEING ONE OF THE RESOURCES TO DO WHAT IT IS THAT YOU HAD ASKED OR WHAT YOU HAD, HAD RECOMMENDED TO DO.
UH, AND THEN, UH, THERE WAS THE ISSUE OF, UH, THE RESOLUTION.
THERE WAS, UH, A CIVIL COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMISSION, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL, MAKING A FINAL ADOPTION OF THAT PARTICULAR LANGUAGE.
SO THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL THAT REPRESENTATION FROM THIS BODY BE AT THE, UH, AT LEAST AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, IF NOT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, TO OFFER SOME INPUT AND GUIDANCE WITH RESPECT TO THE LANGUAGE YOU FELT WAS MOST APPROPRIATE WITH REGARD TO THE RESOLUTION, UH, AS WELL AS THE, UM, EXCUSE ME, UH, AS WELL AS WITH THE LANGUAGE DENOUNCING RACISM, THAT WOULD BE ON THE WEBSITE.
SO, UH, THOSE ARE, UH, JUST A QUICK SYNOPSIS OF THE COMMENTS THAT, UM, UH, THAT I TOOK FROM THE COUNCIL MEETING.
I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN AND WANTING TO ENTERTAIN THAT THEY TABLED SOME OF THOSE TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION, JUST SIMPLY, UH, THROUGH THE STANDPOINT OF TIME MANAGEMENT AND WORKLOAD.
DID YOU, UM, DID YOU HAVE ANY CLARITY AROUND, I WASN'T SURE WHERE IT WAS LEFT WITH THE BLACK SIDE DENOUNCING RACISM? IT WAS, I RECALL THE CITY'S INTENT IS TO PUT A STATEMENT ON THE WEBSITE, DENOUNCING RACISM, BUT WHAT THEY HAD ASKED FOR WAS FOR COMMENTARY FROM THIS COMMISSION, IF THERE WAS ANY PARTICULAR LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND OR ANY PARTICULAR LIKE, WHICH THEY WANTED TO SEE TO
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CONSIDER PRIOR TO THAT STATEMENT, BEING POSTED THE PROCLAMATIONS FOR THE TWO, THE JUNETEENTH AND THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE DAY IN THE LAND, OPENING UP CITY EVENTS WITH A LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN TABLE FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION.THOSE WERE NOT, THOSE ARE NOT DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING MA'AM AND COUNCIL DIDN'T MAKE ANY COMMENT ON THE RECORD ABOUT WHEN THEY WOULD BE TAKEN UP, NOT TO SAY THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE THERE.
NO, I MEAN, OVER ON A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS SENT, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
SO WAS THAT LEFT WITH THE COMMISSION, THE STATEMENT ON THE HEIGHTS WEBSITE, DENOUNCING RACISM, CORRECT.
ONE OF THE COMMISSIONS HAVE PUT ON ANY LANGUAGE THAT YOU FELT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO CONSIDER IT AS WELL AS ON THE RESOLUTION, BUT BOTH OF WHICH THEY HAD, EXCUSE ME, BUT AT LEAST THE RESOLUTION THEY PLAN TO TAKE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE LAST MEETING IN MARCH BASED ON THEIR COMMENTS FROM THE WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY.
UM, I UNDERSTOOD THAT FROM THE RFQ RFQ, SORRY, THE RESOLUTION, I THINK I, IT STOOD THAT FROM THE, OF THE RESOLUTION, BUT IT WAS NOT UNDER THAT UNDERSTANDING FOR THE STATEMENT WHEN THE CITY OF HUMOR, HIVES WITH WEBSITE.
UM, AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN TERMS OF THE WEB PAGE.
I DO JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THEY'LL REQUEST FOR THE WEBPAGE, THE ADDED WEBSITES FOR EACH OF THE COMMITTEES WAS NOT JUST FOR ACTIVITIES, BUT FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, UH, TO ADD RESOURCES, THERE ARE VIDEOS THAT FOCUS ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, UM, RACIAL EQUITY.
UM, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT IT WASN'T JUST FOR, TO THIS ACTIVITIES.
SO, SO WHAT I CAN, SO WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THIS IS THAT THE COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION WAS FOCUSED AROUND STATIC CHANGES TO THE WEBSITE THAT WOULD MEET YOUR REQUEST.
THERE WERE NO ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FORWARD TO STAFF THAT MAKING THOSE AMENDMENTS IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS OR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WOULD BE AN ISSUE WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
AND THERE WASN'T A SPECIFIC DIRECTION PROVIDED TO STAFF WITH RESPECT TO THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED.
SO REGARDING THESE RESOURCES, IF THEY ARE STATIC RESOURCES, THAT IS ONE THING FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER AND TO PUT FORWARD TO THE WEBSITE, IF THESE ARE RESOURCES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO HAVE CYCLED AND CHANGE ON REGULAR ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO THERE WILL NEED TO BE SOME CLARITY ABOUT WHAT YOUR EXPECTATION IS, BUT THOSE WERE ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AND BASED ON THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION, THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT WAS APPLIED FOR STAFF.
SO YOU JUST NEED CLARITY ON HOW OFTEN WE WOULD NEED TO UPDATE THAT.
UM, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, OR I GUESS THE RESPONSE ON THE STATEMENT OF THE CITY ON THE HUBER HEIGHTS WEBSITE ANNOUNCING RACISM.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE HERE AS A RECOMMENDING COMMISSION.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I BELIEVE NEED TO START WITH OUR CITY LEADERSHIP AND NOT WITH, WITH THIS COMMISSION.
AND I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE DISCUSSED THIS IN ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BUT IN TERMS OF THE RESOLUTION, AND I KNOW THIS FURTHER DOWN ON, BUT I'M GOING TO KIND OF BRING THAT IN NOW.
UM, WHEN WE WERE, INITIALLY WE WERE STARTING TO WRITE THE RESOLUTION AND IT WAS VERY CHALLENGING FOR US TO DO THAT.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, IT WASN'T OUR PLACE TO DO BASICALLY IS NOT OUR PLACE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE INPUT.
WE CAN, YOU KNOW, REVIEW WAS ALREADY WRITTEN, BUT I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN HOW, WHAT THIS FEELS LIKE TO ME, WHEN I'M TOLD TO WRITE SOMETHING, DENOUNCING RACISM, I AM A PERSON THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED BY RACISM FOR YOU TO TELL ME TO WRITE SOMETHING, DENOUNCING RACISM THAT COMES FROM OUR CITY.
THAT'S LIKE YOU TELLING ME TO WRITE AN APOLOGY LETTER TO MYSELF FOR THE OPPRESSION THAT I'M EXPERIENCING.
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THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT.SO IT'S NO DISRESPECT OR ANYTHING PUSHING THAT BACK TO CITY LEADERSHIP.
WHAT IT IS IS WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT RACISM? WHAT DOES THE CITY FEEL ABOUT RACISM? WHAT IS YOUR STATEMENT FROM OUR STATE TO OUR RESIDENTS? I CAN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
THE COMMISSION CAN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE CITY LEADERSHIP.
SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO SEARCH YOUR HEARTS AND MINDS AND SPIRITS AS TO WHAT YOU BELIEVE SHOULD BE IN A RESOLUTION AND WHAT SHOULD BE ON THE HUBER HEIGHTS WEBSITE, DENOUNCING RACISM.
I CAN'T WRITE THAT FOR YOU, THE COMMISSIONER, WHY THAT FOR YOU, WE CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THINGS THAT ARE WRITTEN, UM, WHICH MR. SCHAUER DID PROVIDE THE CLASS, WHICH I EMAILED.
SOMEBODY REQUESTED A MEETING FOR US TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE DILUTED THE ISSUE.
UM, SO I REQUESTED THE NEEDING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WANT, I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS THAT WE DON'T FEEL THAT WE NEED TO WHITE THAT RESOLUTION.
I HOPE THAT THAT'S CONDITIONING.
SO IF WE WROTE SOMETHING AND WE GAVE IT TO YOU TO EDIT, WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES.
AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO, TO RECOMMEND, UM, AND, AND SHARE WITH YOU, OKAY.
YOU KNOW, I STARTED THE BRIGHT EYE FROM THIS LENS, FROM THIS POINT OF VIEW THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN WRITE FOR.
I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT YOUR POINT STANDS WITH LIKE A WRITE APOLOGY LETTER, LIKE FOR BEING SCRIPTED AND EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ONE.
SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
UM, SO THAT SAME THING APPLIES TO THE STATEMENT ON THE CITY.
IF YOU WERE HERE THIS WEBSITE.
SO I WOULD ASK THE CITY TO DO THAT.
NOW WE CAN REVIEW IT, HAPPY TO DO THAT, AND THE WAY THAT IT IS ON MOST CITY WEBSITES, THEY JUST HAVE A BANNER OF RENOUNCES.
IT'S JUST THAT IT'S JUST A BANNER ACROSS THE WATER SIDE.
YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH ANY CITY ACROSS THE NEW YORK EARLY TODAY AND SEE IT ON ALMOST ANY CITY WEBSITE.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE TURN AND WHERE THEY WENT TO LIVE, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE MINORITY PERSPECTIVE, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE DO IS WE VISIT AROUND THE FIRST PLACE WE VISITED AS A WEBSITE.
AND IF I SEE A WEBSITE WHERE I'M NOT INCLUDED, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A COMMUNITY.
I WANNA BE A PART OF THAT WAS THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR MY DAUGHTERS, WHERE SHE WAS GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL, YOU VISIT THEIR WEBSITE.
IF YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING, ANYBODY THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU, THEN THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A PLACE YOU WANT TO BE.
SO I'LL JUST SHARING THAT WITH YOU ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OUR WEBSITE, ANYTHING WE PUT OUT FROM THE CITY AGAIN, IS IT INCLUSIVE? DOES IT REPRESENT AND TO QUOTE, TO WORK MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS OWNERS, WHO ARE I SPOKE TO, UM, THEY CHOSE TO OPEN HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS BECAUSE THEY FELT IT WAS A DIVERSE DIVERSITY.
SO WE DEFINITELY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO GROW EVEN FURTHER IS IF I HAVE THAT REPRESENTATION IS SO IMPORTANT OR UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS, WAS THERE ANY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS? I'M SORRY, THE COUNSELING SESSION.
CLARIFICATION, EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.
CAN WE GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT? THE NEXT MEETING I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCLAMATIONS BECAUSE
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THERE'S ADDING MORE PROCLAMATION ON HERE.WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ADDRESSING TO THE CURRENT PROCLAMATION FOR, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION ACTUALLY FINISHED ADDRESSING THE ENTIRE RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD PUT FORWARD FOR A WHILE AGO.
SO IT WAS PUT FORWARD A FEW WEEKS AGO.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, COMPLETED AT THE NEXT WORK SITE.
SO THE REMAINDER OF THE LIST, BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING NEW RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OLD ONES COMPLETED YET.
SO I LIKE TO SEE THAT COME TO, COME TO CONCLUSION, THE FIRST SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR SECOND SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A, UH, PROCESS OR WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR, UM, RESPONDING TO RECOMMENDATIONS.
I KNOW FOR THE CITY OF DAYTON, THEY, UM, THEIR RACE RELATIONS COUNCIL OR THEIR REFORM GROUP, THEY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL OR THEIR COMMISSIONS.
UM, THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COMMISSIONERS MADE A DECISION WITHIN A 30 DAY WINDOW.
SO THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROP TIME OUT PROCESS SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEY CAN EXPECT TO HEAR BACK, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? IS THAT IN THE CITY ANYWHERE? AND IF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD AT LEAST IDENTIFY THE ECD DAY, RIGHT? ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE FOR ANY RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? THEY MAY, MAYBE IT'S NOT 30 DAYS, BUT AT LEAST BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SAME COUNSELOR GOING BACK AND STABLE.
WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THE SPOTS OR PROVIDERS WHO HAVE SOME SORT OF TIMELINE.
THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, SOME THINGS YOU CAN SEE.
I THINK THAT DEFINITELY SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE DON'T WANT THINGS JUST KIND OF SITTING THERE.
WE WANT TO CHECK STUFF OFF IT, GET DONE BEFORE SO WE CAN ALL AGREE.
NOT COMPOUNDED LISTS TO ME IS POINT.
SO YES, THOSE, WE MADE THEIR ITEMS ON THE LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE WERE ASKED IN THIS MEETING, IS THAT CORRECT? NEXT WORD, NEXT WORK SESSION ON THE BALANCE OF THE LIST THAT YOU HAVE, NOT THE NET, MY COMMUNITY IS THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL.
THE REGULAR COUNSELOR IS THERE.
AND THEN THE BALANCE OF THE REQUESTS WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH WITH THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY PRIMARILY THE SECOND.
I THINK YOU WERE SAYING WE GOT FIVE HERE.
SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT RFQ.
ALSO ONE OF THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS UPDATE, WE WERE TO DISCUSS THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE UPDATE.
UM, MR. SEAN WERE, UH, REFERENCED IN THAT, IN THE MEETING THAT THE CITY HAD STARTED TO PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT OF A RESOLUTION, UM, WHICH WE HAVE COPIES OF THAT HERE.
AND THAT HAS BEEN SHARED WITH THE COMMISSION AS WRITTEN.
I HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT.
UM, IT'S NOT A BAD FIRST FIRST PASS.
I WOULD SAY THAT THERE WAS JUST ONE, ONE ISSUE THAT WAS CHALLENGED.
UM, BUT THERE WAS A PORTION OF THE REST OF THOSE SHIN AND THAT RATES WERE, SO THIS, THIS IS A RESOLUTION, THEN ASK SOME RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION AND DECLARING RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION IN PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
AND WE HAVE WRITTEN, WHEREAS THE PUBLIC HEALTH DATA IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY HAS SHOWN THEM.
I'VE GOT THREE COUNTIES, BLACK, ASIAN, NATIVE AMERICAN, AND OTHER MINORITY POPULATIONS, INDIVIDUALS OF HISPANIC AND OTHER ETHNICITIES AND LGBTQ INDIVIDUALS HAVE LESS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEALTHY THAN OTHER POPULATIONS.
UM, SO MY KICKBACK ON THIS WAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT RACISM AND THAT STATEMENT REALLY DILUTES WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY HERE, AND THEN ANNOUNCING RACISM.
AND THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON RACISM
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IN THIS RESOLUTION.WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOLUTION, RIGHT? UM, THAT THIS WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON RACISM.
AND WE DID PROVIDE QUITE A FEW, UM, EXAMPLES TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR.
I MEAN, CITIES ARE MAKING THESE, THESE PROCLAMATIONS.
THERE'S LOTS OF THEM OUT THERE TO BENCHMARK FROM THE COUNTY.
MONTGOMERY COUNTY HAS A GREAT ONE, UM, CITY, THEY PASS ONE.
AND THOSE HAVE ALL FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, FROM OUR RESEARCH, I'VE BEEN INITIATED AT THE CITY LEADERSHIP LEVEL.
SO IT WAS THAT ONE PORTION FOR ME AND THE RESOLUTION THAT DOES NOT BELONG IN THE MINE IS PROBABLY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX PARAGRAPHS ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH, ABOUT HEALTH ISSUES, SUCH AS PRODUCT DISEASE AND ALL THE WELLBEING THERE, A HEALTH DISPARITY AMONG UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS FOR.
IT'S NOT TO ADDRESS PUBLIC HEALTH SPECIFICALLY.
AND THE FIRST HALF OF THIS RESOLUTION IS ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES.
SO I, UM, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
THAT WAS MY CONCERN BECAUSE WHEN I WAS READING THIS, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH DISPARITIES, THAT'S NOT WHAT RACISM IS.
A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE IS IT'S NOT ABOUT SPECIFIC HEALTH DISPARITIES, HEALTH DISPARITIES AMONG UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS IS PART OF RACISM AND THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHY RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE THE FIRST HALF OF THIS IS ABOUT CHRONIC DISEASE, DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, ACCESS TO HEALTH AND FROM OUR COUNTY.
AND IT JUST, IT TAKES AWAY FROM WHAT THAT MESSAGE IS ACTUALLY IS.
AND I THINK IF, IF I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE THIS, BUT I THINK IF, UH, THOSE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN RESPONSIBLE READING, THIS TAKES A LOOK AT, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE REGIONAL, UM, MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION ON PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, UM, THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.
YOU CAN GET THAT IDEA THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT SPECIFIC HEALTH ABOUT ILLNESSES.
IT'S ABOUT RACISM AND SYSTEMIC RACISM.
AND BASICALLY THE BOTTOM HALF IS PRETTY, PRETTY POOR, BUT THAT THE FIRST, THE FIRST ONE, TWO, THREE, LIKE I SAID, THE FIRST, MOST, THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT WAS MY ISSUE WITH MY BREATHING.
THE OTHER THING, THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS A WONDERFUL STUDY ON RACIAL EQUITY AND IT ADDRESSES SOME OF THESE THINGS.
UM, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS MORE FOCUSED ON THE STRUCTURAL RACISM AND HOW IT IMPACTS THESE INSTITUTIONS, HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, HOUSING, LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S THE PIECE.
SO IF IT'S NOT THE, THE END, IT'S HOW RACISM IMPACTS ALL OF THE OTHER INSTITUTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND I KNOW YOU JUST GOT INTO, AND I KNOW, UH, SOME OF YOU ARE AFFILIATED WITH THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, BUT I HAVE BEEN IN THAT STATE AND THEIR WEBSITE.
THEY HAVE SOME AMAZING RESOURCES WITH REGARD, IF YOU, WHO WAS COUNSEL MS. SHAW, WHO MENTIONED THAT? I MEAN, THEY HAVE SOME WONDERFUL RESOURCES.
THEY'RE DOING SOME GREAT WORK AROUND RACIAL EQUITY.
SO I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT BENCHMARK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT THEY PUT OUT AS WELL.
UM, THE COLUMN WAS MADE, I WOULD NEED TO BE IN SUPPORT, UH, UM, FOCUSING THIS RESOLUTION ON THE, OF RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION AMONG THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, BUT ARE THEY GONNA BE, UH, FUTURE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, TO, UH, PROVIDE SIMILAR RESOLUTIONS FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL MINORITIES, UH, COMMUNITY SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, ASIAN AMERICANS, LGBTQ, UM, JUST TO ENSURE THAT EVERY COMMUNITY IS REPRESENTED WITHIN OUR OWN AS A DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION, WHAT RACISM SHOULD BE MORE THAN JUST AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY UNDER REPRESENTED.
AND SO WHAT A TERM THAT HAD INITIALLY COME TO KNOWN WAS PARAGRAPH NUMBER FIVE WITHIN, UH, THE RESOLUTION TALKING ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL MINORITY, UH, COMMUNITIES THAT
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ARE BEING CALLED OUT.UH, HOWEVER, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, CONSIDERING THE CURRENT EVENTS IS RACISM AMONG THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN BLACK COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT'S YOUR DETENTION, AND IF THAT WAS THE INTENTION OF RECOMMENDATION, UM, WHAT FUTURE RESOLUTIONS INCLUDE REPRESENTATION, RESOLUTIONS FOR OTHER UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES, I'LL ALWAYS REQUEST RESOLUTIONS FOR OTHER GROUPS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON RACISM IS BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRE THAT'S RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT BECOMES THE INFERIOR TO THE SPEED AS MS. SOMEONE STATED EARLIER, REALLY ADDRESSING THAT FIRST LAYER AND THEN GETTING TO THE OTHER LAYERS AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU CAN HEAR JUST FROM THOSE FEW COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION, THAT THIS IS NOT REALLY A GREAT RESOLUTION, DENOUNCING RACISM.
UM, AGAIN, WE ARE HERE TO, WE CAN PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK, PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK.
SO I DID WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'LL GET MOVED TO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
WE HAD A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, DIVERSITY EQUITY, INCLUSION NEEDS, ASSESSMENT, AND STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THE COMMISSION HAS HOPEFULLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW DETAIL.
SO WE HAVE THIS DRAFT IN THE JACK WAS INITIALLY CREATED AND SENT OUT TO THE PERMISSION FOR ENVISIONS UPDATES, ANY CHANGES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT.
AND SO NOW WE HAVE A FINAL DRAFT THAT WE CAN VOTE FOR TUESDAY, COUNCIL COUNCIL REVIEWS, OUR DRAFT, THEN THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR NEXT STEPS IN THIS PROCESS.
SO ARE WE PREPARED TO TAKE A VOTE? WE'LL TAKE THIS FOR, OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SUBMIT THE REQUEST FOR THE DRAFT REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS THAT DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO SEE COUNCIL? AND I WOULD SHARE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE COUNCIL REVIEW THE DRAFT RFQ THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
WE WANT IT TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
DOES THAT YOU WANT THEM TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK OR, WELL, LET ME RECALL.
SO NOW THEY CAN WRITE THE ACTUAL RFP FOR, SO JUST FOR PROCEDURAL PURPOSES, WE, AS STAFF WOULD TAKE THIS DOCUMENT AND THEN WE WOULD REVIEW AND EVALUATE IT AGAINST, UM, ANY OF THE LOCAL PROCEDURES WITH RESPECT TO HOW WE KNOW THAT, OR HOW WE SOLICIT.
WE WOULD REVIEW AND EVALUATE THIS WITH RESPECT TO GENERALIZE CONTENT WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR.
AND THEN ONCE WE DO THAT, AND I HAVEN'T READ THIS, THIS IS JUST GIVEN TO ME TONIGHT, BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ASSUMING THERE WERE ANY ISSUES THAT CAME TO LIGHT, WE WOULD COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THOSE ISSUES OR BRING THOSE ISSUES TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE PRODUCT YOU'RE TRYING TO PRODUCE.
SO NOT THAT WE WON'T ACTIVELY WORK ON THIS NOW THAT WE HAVE IT, BUT JUST PROCEDURALLY SPEAKING TO SEND THIS DOCUMENT TO COUNCIL, THEY WOULD JUST TURN ON AND KICK IT BACK TO US.
AND WE WOULD TURN AROUND AND PERFORM THE SAME EVALUATION AND WE COULD BE RIGHT BACK HERE.
SO, UH, WE'LL START WORKING ON THIS NEXT WEEK AND, UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU.
UM, AND THE NEXT PACKET GOES OUT FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING WITH RESPECT TO ANY ISSUES THAT WE'VE
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REVIEWED AND IDENTIFY.AND IF WE COME ACROSS ANY, UH, ANY DETAILED OR COMPLEX ISSUES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, OR THAT ARE NOTED BY THE LAW DIRECTOR, WE'LL, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING THIS MOVING FORWARD, UM, AND THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING DELAYED BY SAVINGS COUNCIL, WAITING FOR THEM TO KICK IT TO US, AND WE'LL JUST HOLD ONTO IT, START WORKING ON IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU.
SO YOU'RE WORKING WITH SICK TIME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE THIS OUT, SO, OKAY.
DISCIPLINE VITAL, GO TO TWO THINGS THAT YOU'LL BE HERE WITH ALL THE DIRECTOR, CORRECT.
AND YOU'LL ADD THE REMAINDER MAIN PORTION OF THAT IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS WITH THE CITY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THEN WE WOULD TAKE SOME OF THE MORE BOILER TEMPLATE THING.
SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? WHO WOULD IT BE SUBMITTED TO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? SO WE WOULD LOOK AT HOW TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS AS WELL.
SO THERE'LL BE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THIS.
WHEN WILL YOU SEE THAT A FINAL DRAFT FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION COUNSELING, ALL THAT? SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS YOU'LL MAKE, BASED ON THE REVIEW, YOU'LL MAKE UPDATES, EDITS, THEN YOU'LL BRING THEM BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO REVIEW, CORRECT.
CAUSE A LOT DIRECTOR MAY COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, THIS, THIS SHOULDN'T BE IN HERE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
AND YOU GUYS MIGHT SAY, WELL, HEY, WE REALLY THINK IT SHOULD.
AND THEN THAT SETS OFF A DIFFERENT DIALOGUE YOU GUYS MIGHT SAY, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S GOING TO SLOW IT DOWN, WE DON'T NEED IT AS PART OF THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT YOU TO SEE AND BE ABLE TO, A LOT OF TRAFFIC IS PARKING FIRST.
SO WE WILL EVALUATE IT IN HOUSE FIRST.
SO BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW AND BASED ON HOW WE WOULD SOLICIT A PROPOSAL AND THEN ONCE WE GO THROUGH AND THAT WE WOULD FLAG ANYTHING THAT WE SEE THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO THE LAWN DIRECTOR.
AND THEN ONCE WE MAKE OUR EVALUATION AND WE MAKE OUR COMMENTARY, THEN WE SEND IT TO THE LAW DIRECTOR.
SO HE HAS IT ALL WHEN HE'S REVIEWING IT, EVALUATING IT.
THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION NECESSARY.
SO THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED STAFF NOW HAS THAT YOU HAVE AN ELECTRONIC COPY OF IT TOO, SO, OKAY, PERFECT.
UM, WE HAVE OUR FIRST NEW BUSINESSES, UH, PROCLAMATIONS FOR THE NEW DEAL WHO WAS THE FIRST, UM, AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN BRIDES.
AND I LOVE BEER FLOYD WHO WAS A THEATER, STRONG ACTIVISTS, WHO ALSO IS A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND COOPER HIGH SCHOOL.
SHE ACTUALLY INTERVIEWED FOR THIS CONDITION.
I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH HER ACTIVISM, HER LEVEL OF ACTIVISM ACROSS DAYTON, OHIO, OR HEIGHTS.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM RECOGNIZE BY PROCLAMATION FOR CITY COUNCIL, BY CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE HAVE THAT ASKING THE BUSINESS.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE OR REQUEST A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, TO WAIT FOR THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS TO BE RECOGNIZED AND SHARE THAT THIS COMMISSION RECOGNIZED TO SAY, CANCEL, TAKE ISSUE A PROCLAMATION
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SPELLING BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, I'M JUST CONCERNED OF ADDING MORE.
NOT THAT I DISAGREE, BUT I THINK THIS WAS WONDERFUL AND THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
UM, I THINK, UM, BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO ADD PROCLAMATION AFTER PROCLAMATION, I LIKE TO SEE THE ORIGINAL ONES THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT FORWARD COMPLETED FIRST, BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO ADD ON MORE AND MORE AND MORE TO THE COUNCIL.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DONE TO MAYBE PUT THIS PROCLAMATION TO THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE THAT GIVES THE COUNCIL TIME TO COMPLETE THE ORIGINAL PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE TABLE COMPLETED.
AND THEN WE CAN GIVE THEM MORE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I JUST, I JUST THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING THIS WHOLE LONG CONTINUATION LIST OF LISTS AND LIST OF STUFF WITHOUT GETTING THINGS.
BECAUSE LIKE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THAT STUFF WAS RAN OUT OF TIME OF DISCUSSING A LOT OF THAT.
SO I THINK FOR THAT SAKE, LET'S COMPLETE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE TABLE BEFORE WE CAN
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ADD MORE POPULATIONS ON TOP OF THAT.I'M JUST SAYING LET'S TABLE IS TO THE NEXT MONTH MEETING TO GIVE COUNCIL TIME TO COMPLETE THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN FRONT OF THEM.
I SECOND THAT, UH, NOT FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE, BUT I'M TO, TO VOTE ON A POPULATION FOR THIS, MR.
UH, SO WANTING TO, TO VOTE ON THAT MATTER.
UM, I, I'M JUST NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO, TO GO ON THE WAIST BEHIND THEM BEHIND THAT.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE, UH, TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE ON THEIR INFLUENCES WITHIN COMMUNITY.
SO SIMILAR, SIMILAR REASONS OR SIMILAR REASONS TABLE IT, BUT JUST, JUST ONE ALONG THE SAME LINES IS JUST ADDITIONAL TIME TO, TO GET MOVIE SEWERS OR WHATEVER WE'RE VOTING ON CHAIR IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT BOTH OF THEM HAD SAID.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OFF WITH THE CITY AND PUT THAT THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEES LIST.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DO WHEN YOU WRITE LETTERS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE ON AND THEN THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE.
SO IF WE COULD STILL BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO LET COMMISSION KNOW WHO THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE, IN FACT THEY FOUNDED THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT WRITING THOSE PROCLAMATIONS, THAT CHAIR OUT OF, LET ME SEND
I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THESE TWO PROCLAMATIONS OR THIS WE SCALE DOWN AND THIS BOOK ARE DEPLOYED ONCE YOU HAVE THE OTHER POPULATIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION.
IS THAT WHAT
SO IT'S JUST, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT ADVOCACY CAN, WHY THIS PROCLAMATION, UM,
SO, UM, I STARTED A RESOURCE FILE.
DID EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION GETS THE RESOURCE FILE, SHARE THAT I SENT OUT A GOOGLE DOC.
SO STARTED THE CREATION OF WHAT WILL HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT BECOME A RESOURCE ROOM THAT WE CAN ALL DOWN RESOURCES INTO IT.
CITY LEADERSHIP CAN LOOK AT CAN VIEW, CAN INTERACT WITH.
UM, THEY WILL INCLUDE VIDEOS, LECTURE, SERIES DOCUMENTS AROUND RACIAL EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.
SO IT'S CALLED THE WRITING ROOM, UH, RACIAL EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.
I HAVE STARTED PUTTING SOME THINGS IN IT, BUT EVERY, MAYBE CAN PUT THINGS IN THIS RESOURCE NOW.
AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT CITY LEADERSHIP, AND I CAN GIVE YOU ACCESS TO IT THAT YOU JUST GO IN AND JUST BROWSE AND SEE WHAT'S IN HERE.
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I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE ENOUGH TO DO, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE SITTING AROUND WITH NOTHING TO DO, LIKE THAT EVER HAPPENS, JUST GO INTO THE WRITING ROOM AND JUST SEE WHAT'S IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THINGS.AND THEN IF YOU NEED TO ASK US QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO DO THAT.
BUT I THINK IT'LL BE A GREAT WAY FOR ALL OF US TO CONNECT AND TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN FIND WAYS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS THIS EXISTING CONTENT, OR IS THIS AS OF ABOUT TWO DAYS AGO.
AND SO I WILL GIVE YOU ACCESS.
I WILL GIVE ALL OF COUNCIL ACCESS TO IT ONCE.
AND I JUST LIKE, OH, JUST EMAIL THE DOCTOR.
SO THAT IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT OUR EDUCATION COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT, WHY THEY ASKED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL PAGE SO THEY CAN PULL RESOURCES LIKE THAT.
SO IT HOPEFULLY WILL BECOME A ROAM AT SOME POINT.
BUT FOR NOW IT'S JUST A FILE, A GOOGLE DOC AND YEAH.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO VOTE ON THAT AS A COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING, COULD YOU SEND IT TO ALL OF US? SURE.
CAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIND A LINCOLN
IT MAY GIVES THE ACCESS TO WHOEVER ELSE ON THE CITY COUNCIL TO WORK OR HAS THE TWO TEAMS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT? WE CAN PUT IT ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.
WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE IF THAT RESOURCE RIGHT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO AND MAYBE EAT.
I FEEL IT'S EASIER TO NAVIGATE THE GOOGLE DOCS AND IT'S ALSO, I THINK IT'S MORE SECURE.
SO IT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM TRYING TO HACK GOOGLE DOCS IS EASIER TO HAPPEN.
AND THEN, UM, BUT IT ALLOWS, UM, MICROSOFT TEAMS. YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURITY OF, OF THINGS THAT WE PUT IN THERE.
SO, UM, AND THEN OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AS WELL, FACEBOOK.
SO YES, YOU CAN, AS LONG AS THERE IS A FACEBOOK GROUP.
I DON'T HAVE TO SEE, BUT I KNOW IF THIS GROUP, THEN WE CAN ADD 50.
SO I GOT A 1240, BUT YEAH, SOMETHING SAYS THIS, THERE IT'S COMING LECTURES FROM YALE UNIVERSITY NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES.
I JUST LOVE I'M ALWAYS ON THERE.
WELL THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE EXCITED BECAUSE NEXT WEEK I'M GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF THE REAL COUNCIL VIRTUALLY AND BE BRINGING YOU GUYS BACK MORE RESOURCES.
I HAVEN'T FOUND AN LLC AND A RACIST EQUITY INCLUDE.
FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THEIR TRAINING RESOURCES.
THEY HAVE A TRAINING, GET THE NAME OF IT, BUT IT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BRING IT TO YOUR STATE.
I WOULD LOVE TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HOW WE CAN BRING THAT TO OUR CITY, THE WHOLE BOAT LOAD, AS MUCH AS YOU'RE GOING TO GET ME, I'M GOING TO GET THEM RIGHT BACK.
SO DID WE NEED A MOTION TO RESTATE YOUR MOTION? UM, SO JUST A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ADAPTION OF THE RESOURCE FILE FOR CITY LEADERS, CITY STAFF, SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR.
SO WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, MINORITY CANDIDATES THAT ARE RUNNING
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FOR CITY COUNCIL I'M NOW, UM, I KNOW THAT OUR BOARD THREE CANDIDATE IS NO LONGER A CANDIDATE WARD FOUR.WHAT IS THE, DO YOU REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I KNOW IF YOU'RE WRITING A POST OR SO, I MEAN, BUT HOW DO WE LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT THESE MINORITY CANDIDATES WHO MAY NOT ONE NEVER BEEN IN POLITICAL OR PUBLIC OFFICE? WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COMMISSION THAT IS REPRESENTING MINORITIES? HOW CAN WE GET THE WORD OUT, RHONDA, IF I MAY SPEAK AND BE VERY BLUNT? I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN, UM, UH, OUR CHARTER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HANDBOOK STATES THAT NO CITY EMPLOYEE STAFF OR BOARD INFORMATION OR NOT EVEN AS COUNCIL, CAN WE FILL IN THIS CHAMBER AND TALK ABOUT, UM, ELECTIONS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, YOUR PERSONAL LIVES ALL DAY LONG, BUT AS A COMMISSION, YOU CAN'T GET INVOLVED IN THE ELECTION PROCESS.
VOLUNTEERS WE CAN, OR AS PERSONALLY IN YOUR PERSONAL LIVES ALL DAY LONG, ACTUALLY LIBERALLY, BUT FROM THE DIAS AS A COMMISSION MEMBER WEARING THE HUBRIS.
SO THEN THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
UM, BUT STILL IT'S ALWAYS ENCOURAGED TO GET OUT AND SUPPORT THE CANDIDATES THAT YOU MIGHT ENCOURAGE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW.
I MEAN, IT'S AN AMAZING CANDIDATE REALLY IS THERE.
I KNOW, NOT JUST FOR SPECIFIC, UM, FOR JUST UNDERREPRESENTED GROUP, BUT I KNOW IT WOULD HELP UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITY IN OUR HOME CITY AND OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL, IS THE PROCESS OF GETTING INVOLVED AND BECOMING ON COMMISSIONS BECOMING, UH, I, THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW, I MEAN, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE NO IDEA.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET WHERE YOU'RE NOT PICKING A CANDIDATE? I UNDERSTAND.
CAUSE I THINK WE GET INTO MUDDY WATERS.
IF WE START TO PACK A CANDIDATE, THAT'S WAIT.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAYBE PROVIDE COMMUNITY EDUCATION ON HOW THEY BECOME AN ADULT IN THE CITY, HOW THEY COULD RUN FOR AN OFFICE, LIKE I THINK THE WHOLE PETITION PROCESS, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN DOING SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, MATTERS OF THAT, GETTING SIGNATURES.
I MEAN, I FIND A PETITION MANY YEARS AGO FOR A WORD THAT I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE I DID NOT LIVE IN.
SO THAT WASN'T ABOUT A SIGNATURE, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW EITHER.
THEY WAS JUST THINKING, I'M JUST GOING TO GET SUED IF YOU HEIGHTS PEOPLE TO ASSIGN THE THING.
AND THEN IT TURNS OUT IT'S NOT ABOUT SO, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I HAD TO LEARN TOO, YOU KNOW? SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT WANT TO BE INVOLVED.
THEY JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE INVOLVED.
SO IS THERE A WAY TO PROVIDE SOME OF THIS EDUCATION? AND I KNOW THAT'S MORE BEING, WELL, WE CAN'T DO AS A PERMISSION CAUSE THAT'S NOT THAT OUR, OUR AREA, BUT AN IDEA FOR THE COUNCIL, PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE AND HERE AND OUR CITY FOLKS WHO ARE HERE TO MAYBE HAVE SOME SORT OF AN EDUCATION FORUM OR SOME SORT OF RESOURCE OR SYSTEM OR SOMETHING THAT LETS PEOPLE KNOW, AND THEN, THEN WE CAN SHARE IT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND THAT COULD INCREASE UNDER REPRESENTED.
THAT'S WE GET VACANCIES UP ON SCHOOL.
C AND I THINK MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE PETITIONS CAN'T TURN IN JULY, AUGUST, MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THESE ARE AVAILABLE OR THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO CAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING, SCHOOL BOARD, I'M THINKING I'M NOT RUNNING FOR SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE I'M NOT ON THE TEACHER OR YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE CHANGE.
SO OBVIOUSLY, BUT I MEAN, I JUST THINK THERE, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES EDUCATION TO OUR COMMUNITY ON HOW TO RUN FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BE CITIZENS ON.
I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE SOME REASON WHY WE INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO CHANGE OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN
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AND MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE AND HAVE IMPACT.SO, BUT, UM, I THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS.
AND TO ADD TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, DO YOU RECALL, UM, DURING THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE MEETING, IF WE COULD HAVE A FORUM TO ALLOW DIFFERENT CANDIDATES WHO ARE RUNNING SUCH AS MINORITIES IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT I'M GLAD YOU PROVIDED THE CONSERVATION COUNCIL MEMBERS
I KNOW THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS SITE DOES HAVE THE VERY DETAILED, UM, DESCRIPTION.
HOWEVER, IT COULD BE A LOT BETTER AND MAYBE A SHORT VIDEO, THOSE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT MR ROSEBECK WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, UNDER HIS NEW TERM, UM, AND, UH, PUT IT INTO PLAY AS FAR AS THE BOARDS IN THE DIVISIONS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE AS A CITY, UM, DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT WE COULD ALSO DO A BETTER JOB THAN USUAL.
A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES WITH OUR APP AND THINGS THAT THEY COULD GET OFF WORKING COMMISSION, THEY CAN SEE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE THINGS I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THE CONTACT INFORMATION WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH YOU.
UM, AND, UH, YOU GUYS CAN DEFINITELY MAKE CONTACT.
ADDITIONALLY, AS INDIVIDUALS, WE CAN BE EDUCATED ON THESE SUBJECTS AND I'M ALWAYS, AND AGAIN, I AGREE THIS, THAT HE DOES A GOOD JOB AT PUTTING OUT ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT I TRY AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE TO SHARE THOSE OUT TO EVERYBODY AS WELL, AS MUCH AS I CAN.
AND ADDITIONALLY, WHEN I HEAR SOMEBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR A SEAT ON OUR CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER I'M SUPPORTING THEM OR NOT, I ALWAYS OFFER AT LEAST THE ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE PROCESS ITSELF.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT THE CAMPAIGN PORTION OF IT, BUT THE PROCESS OF GETTING ON THE BALLOT, WHAT YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH, HOW YOU GOT TO GET SIGNATURES, ALL THOSE THINGS.
I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH ANYONE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO GET EDUCATED.
WE JUST PUT IT OUT TO PEOPLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHAT THE PROCESS IS THAT WE WENT THROUGH.
I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING AS THE COMMISSION IS LIKE, AS WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, UM, COLLECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE WEBSITE UPDATES AND TRANSPARENCY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THIS IS THOSE ASKS IS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE INCREASE THAT LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY? SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BECOME A FORUM TYPE OF EDUCATIONAL SERIES THAT IF I GOOGLE, UM, HOW TO GET ON A BOARD AND FEWER HEIGHTS, IT TAKES ME TO THAT INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S THE INCREASE IN LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY.
AND THE ASK AS A COMMISSION IS THAT IF I AM JOE BLOW CITIZEN AND I WANT TO BECOME INVOLVED TODAY AND I WASN'T INVOLVED YESTERDAY, HOW DO I ACCESS THAT INFORMATION WITHOUT HAVING TO SEEK OUT MY WORD REP OR WITHOUT HAVING TO SEEK OUT OF SPECIFIC COUNCIL MEMBERS? SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING, UM, AS WE COLLECTIVELY MOVE FORWARD, THAT SHOULD KIND OF ALWAYS BE AT THE TOP OF ALL OF OUR HEADS IS AS WE MAKE CHANGES, HOW DO WE BEST MAKE THOSE CHANGES IN THE TRANSPARENCY LENS AND A LENS FOR ALL, AS CITIZENS IN AN END, AN EQUITABLE LENS, ARE THERE RESOURCES ONLINE FOR US TO HAVE OUR CITIZENS THAT MAY NOT HAVE ENGLISH AS A FIRST LANGUAGE? ARE THERE OTHER RESOURCES FOR THOSE INSTRUCTIONS TO BE TRANSLATED FOR THEM? UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THAT LEVEL OF, UM, JUST OPENNESS AND HONESTY, UM, IS THAT EXPECTATION FROM THAT HIGH LEVEL IS I THINK ALL OF THAT, THAT, THAT APP, I THINK THAT ACCESSIBILITY IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO ASK.
CAUSE I KNOW DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT YOU HAD LAST WEEK WHEN IT WAS SO QUIET, I COULDN'T HEAR THERE WAS NO CLOSED CAPTION.
AND SO SOMEBODY WHO IS HARD OF HEARING CAMPUS INTO YOUR LIVES DURING A COUNCIL MEETING, AND I DID BRING THAT UP TO THE MAYOR ABOUT, WE HAVE TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY BECAUSE WE HAVE LIKE ME, YOU KNOW, THE OLDER I'M GETTING MY EYESIGHT HEARING.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ELDERLY, SENIOR CITIZENS WE HAD, AND WE HAVE HARD OF HEARING INDIVIDUALS IN THIS CITY THAT CANNOT ACCESS OUR CITY MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ACCESSIBILITY.
AND WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THAT ON THAT LIVE STREAM.
THERE WAS NO WAY I LOOKED EVERYWHERE TO TRY TO FIND THIS, TO DO A CLOSED CAPTIONING SO I CAN HEAR CAUSE I MISSED A GOOD CHUNK OF, UM, I THINK
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A COUPLE OF THE MICROPHONES WERE SO QUIET THAT I DIDN'T HEAR SOME OF THEM.SO I MEAN, I GO BACK AND READ THE TRANSCRIPTS LATER ON, BUT EVEN THEN THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE WELL.
SO, UM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF, UH, GROUPS IN OUR CITY THAT ENGLISH IS NOT THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE, SO THAT DOESN'T SHOULD LIMIT THEM OF RUNNING FOR AN OFFICE OR BEING INVOLVED INTO THEIR COMMUNITY THAT THEY LIVE IN.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE ACCESSIBILITY AND AMONG THIS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING RICHARD FOR THE NLC, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK AS WELL TOO, IS A LOT OF THESE BIG ORGANIZATIONS DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF ACCESSIBILITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING PEOPLE THINK OF RIGHT OFF THE PAN UNTIL YOU ARE AFFECTED.
SO, BUT DEFINITELY THIS, SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE LSE AND THAT COULD BE AROUND THE ALL CITIES, NOT JUST UBER, BUT HE WORKED COULD TAKE THE FIRST STEP AND MAKING IT POST CAPTAIN, AT LEAST FOR YOUR LIVESTREAM.
SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, BUT I JUST KNOW FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, I COULDN'T HEAR.
SO I MISSED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT MIGHT APPLY TO ME.
SO WATCH THE PLAYBACKS CAN BE TRANSCRIBED.
IT DOESN'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE IT DOESN'T TRANSFERRING.
CAUSE I CAN PUT THINGS TOGETHER, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT, BUT THEN IT DOESN'T MAKE IT DIFFICULT.
UH, I NOW HAVE TO GO BACK AND READ THE WHOLE THING THAT IS LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A LIVE STREAM, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SOME OF THIS ACCESSIBILITY AVAILABLE.
THAT'S JUST MY, I DID WRITE THE MAYOR.
SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS WOULD AN INTERPRETER HELP TOO, BECAUSE LIKE THE GOVERNMENT HAS AN INTERPRETER.
CAUSE IF HE DOESN'T, HE GETS SUED.
SO
THEY CAN GET SUED BY THE, UM, THE ADA AND THEY HAVE BEEN SUED FOR NOT HAVING THE INTERPRETERS AT THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE INTERPRETERS AT THOSE BIG EVENTS.
BUT DEFINITELY I THINK THAT COULD BE, AND THERE IS A SERVICE HERE IN THIS MIAMI VALLEY THAT HAS WONDERFUL INCORPORATED INTERPRETATION SERVICES.
WE USE THEM ALL THE TAX WORK AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING YOU COULD REACH OUT TO.
LIKE I WOULD SAY CENK WAS PUT UP FOR MY POINT EMPLOYER, CAUSE YOU COULD REACH OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE STUDENTS THAT WILL BE WILLING TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT FOR INTERNSHIPS OR OPPORTUNITIES WHERE IT WOULD BE A LIMITED COST TO, TO, TO APPLY TO IT.
SO, BUT I DEFINITELY, YEAH, UH, THAT, THAT WAS NOT HELPING ME.
I'M NOT AN ASL PERSON, SO IT'S NOT GONNA HELP, BUT LIKE MAYBE IT WOULD HELP SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT IT COULD HELP SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO THAT COULD BE JUST AN ADDED THING TO HAVE AT, AT, AT BIGGER MEETINGS, ESPECIALLY WITH LOTS OF IMPORTANT TOPICS.
AGAIN, IT'S MEDIATED THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS BECAUSE WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, OUR STAKEHOLDER PARTNERSHIPS.
SO AS WE START TO DIVE TO, UM, MORE THINGS, MORE WORK, WE WILL EXPAND OUR HORIZONS AND WE WILL NEED MORE VOLUNTEERS.
WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS MS SUBMITTED A COUPLE OF STUDENTS IN THE BAG THAT HAD VOLUNTEERED AND HELPED SERVE US, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO ESTABLISH STAKEHOLDER RELATIONSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE STARTED THAT, UM, BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP THROUGH OUR MLK ESSAY CONTEST WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, WHAT SCHOOL SYSTEM.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE STARTED EVEN IF THEY HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CURRICULUMS, UM, WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND SO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS DEFINITELY ONE THAT WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH BECAUSE THEY ARE A STAKEHOLDER.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF OUR STUDENTS GET INVOLVED WITH OUR COMMISSION, UM, IN TALK ABOUT AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES THAT WE'RE, UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO GET THE MORE WE CAN GET OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED, LOCAL BUSINESSES INVOLVED.
UM, OUR RESIDENTS INVOLVED THE SCHOOL SYSTEM REALLY WANTS TO LOOK AT EXPANDING, GETTING OUR STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED WITH THIS COMMISSION.
RATHER, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING AS WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THINGS WE MAY TACKLE
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UNDER TO HOUSING, HEALTHCARE AND EQUITY, WE'D WANT TO GET MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH INVOLVED.WE WANT TO GET, UM, MAYBE CHATTERING THAT'S KETTERING UP THERE, RIGHT? HERRICK HOSPITAL.
SO WE WANT TO ENGAGE STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EXPERTS.
UM, MIAMI VALLEY SHARE HOUSING KUPER HEIGHTS, HOUSING COUNCIL, AND WE HAVE THAT HOUSING COUNSELOR, UM, HUBER HEIGHTS, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, LOOKING AT HOW THEY'RE MAKING, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCESSIBILITY TO FUNDING FOR MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, KEEPING THAT RELATIONSHIP INTACT.
UM, JUST LOOKING AT WAYS TO CONNECT MY TERM COUNTY JOB AND FAMILY SERVICES, OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BRING OTHER PEOPLE TO THE TABLE.
SO GIVE US INSIGHT ON THINGS MAYBE CAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD JUST TO GET ON A POSITIVE SIDE FOR THOSE WHO ARE ATTENDING THE OUTREACH.
NOW THE OUTLET IS OUTREACH COMMITTEE.
YOU HAVE THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE MET WITH THE HUBER HEIGHTS, CITY SCHOOLS.
EIGHTS, IS THAT WHAT THEY CALL ADVOCATES FOR CULTURAL EDUCATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THEIR GROUP IS ABOUT 20 OF THEIR PEOPLE, HEIGHTS, CITY, SCHOOL STAFF AND TEACHERS.
AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM ABOUT, UM, HOW WE COULD BACK EACH OTHER UP AND HELP WITH OUR YOUTH IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO WE, WE ARE, WE STARTED THAT INITIATIVE AND I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL FOR, TO GET ALL OUR STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IT JUST MAKES THINGS, I SAID, IT JUST MAKES A BETTER COMMUNITY.
I KNOW OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, IS WORKING THE ONE AND EIGHT.
I KNOW MY DAUGHTER WILL PAY FOR ME TO PUT HER ON THE SPOT, BUT I AM ANYWAY, THEN LANGUAGE.
I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME SPECIFIC THINGS WITH REGARD TO RACIAL EQUITY.
UM, AND ZUORA, CAN YOU JUST, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK, I'M SORRY, BUT SHE'S A GREAT SPEAKER.
JUST DROP YOUR MASK FOR A MINUTE AND JUST TELL, KIND OF GIVE A FEW WORDS ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LEARNED REGARDING RACIAL EQUITY, BUT GAIL, YOU CAN AS WELL YOU'RE IN THE SAME CLASS.
IF YOU GUYS WANT ME TO SIGN YOUR FORM, YOU BETTER SPEAK
SO THIS IS, WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS, RACHEL, WILL YOU DISCUSS MOST OF IT ALREADY, BUT RACIAL EQUITY IS HOW YOU EXPLAIN LIKE THE, LIKE ONE OF THE MAIN EXPLANATION IS THE BASEBALL GAME OR FOOTBALL GAME AND THERE'S EVENTS.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE SUPPORT, WHETHER IT'S FINANCIAL OR LIKE ANY TYPE OF SUPPORT TO THOSE MINORITIES WHO ARE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY OR IN ANY OTHER TYPE OF WAY, UM, THROUGH GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE OR ANY LIKE FUNDRAISING OR A TYPE OF OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION, WHAT IS IMPORTANT THEN PROVIDE LEVERAGE FOR THOSE MINORITIES.
SO THAT THEY'RE ON THE SAME THING OR MORE PRIVILEGED, UM, LEARNING ABOUT, UM, THIS HAS NEVER REALLY BEEN SOMETHING THAT HASN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT AND LIKE,
MY MOM TALKED ABOUT, I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT THE WAY HOW MY MOM WAS PLAYING WITH THE BOX AND SHE WAS LIKE, YES, YOU FOLLOW EVERYBODY IN THE BOX, BUT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT? I JUST, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
LIKE TO WORK WITH IT, LIKE IT'S MADE ME MORE COMFORTABLE.
I WON'T CALL YOU YOUNG, YOU KNOW, MARIE GREAT, THANKS GUYS.
SO THAT WAS FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES, THEY PROBABLY MADE PROBABLY
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MATERIAL TRAINING.WE CAN ADD, DO NOT NEED TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER.
THAT WAS LEFT FOR LAST MEETING THAT WORKING WITH, UM, TOMMY ROGERS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD THAT SET UP FOR THE COMMISSION ITEM F RECOMMENDED COUNCIL.
WE HAVE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THE ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVING OR THE REFORM RECOMMENDATIONS AND HAVE G TOWN HALL MEETING.
SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE AROUND THAT.