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[ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION Remote Meeting October 8, 2020 7:00 P.M. ]
SO I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER OF THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION AT 7:03 PM TONIGHT.UM, TONIGHT WE'RE WE HAVE, UH, HANDLING OUR MEETING, UM, CAMILLE HUMBOLDT COME, IF YOU WANT TO JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE GROUP FILLING IN FOR KATIE TONIGHT.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS CAMILLE AND I WILL BE ASSISTING YOU GUYS TONIGHT AND I WORK WITH THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AS THE HR TEAM.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE CALLED OUR MEETING TO ORDER, UH, WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL.
UM, I'M THINKING MISS NEWBIE, MS. PARVEZ PRESENT MR. RAMIREZ PRESENT MR. RICHARDSON.
I'M HERE MR. STEVENS PRESENT MS. STEVENS RESIDENT AND MISS SOMEONE.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENT TO THE MINUTES? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, UM, OR MAKE A MOTION, I SHOULD SAY, UM, THAT THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 16TH MEETING, UM, BE AMENDED TO REFLECT SPECIFICALLY SOME DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD AROUND INITIATIVES THAT EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, WERE INTERESTED IN BRINGING BEFORE THIS BOARD.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE MINUTES BE REFLECTIVE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD, SO THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD.
UM, SO I JUST LIKE TO ASK THAT THOSE MINUTES BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THAT DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD AROUND PRIORITY INITIATIVES.
AND I KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO REFLECT EVERYTHING, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AND BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT EACH OF US, UM, THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO IMPLEMENT, I WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF, OF THOSE, THOSE IDEAS.
UM, I ALSO, WITH THE MINUTES, THE MINUTES WERE WRITTEN AT A VERY HIGH HIGH LEVEL.
UM, AND I EXPECTED TO SEE MORE DETAIL IN TERMS OF WHAT ACTUALLY TRANSPIRED IN THE MEETING.
SO HOW DO WE, UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE THE MINUTES TO BE AMENDED, TO BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE, THE, SOME OF THE DETAIL THAT HAPPENED IN THE ACTUAL MEETING.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MINUTES TO REFLECT THE MEETING AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MEETING AND MORE IN A MORE LEVEL OF, OKAY.
ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY THAT I WANTED TO PASS ON TO YOU GUYS FROM KATIE WAS THAT THE MEETING NOTES WERE ESSENTIALLY A SUMMARY.
AND I THINK THAT IT WAS PUT IN LIKE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND IT WAS MORE SO SUMMARIZED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO RELAY THAT TO YOU.
SO HOW DO WE GET THE ACTUAL MINUTES FROM THE MEETING VERSUS A SUMMARY? SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GO BACK TO THEM AND WE'LL GET THAT ANSWER.
SO ASK THIS QUESTION, WILL THE CHAIR ACCEPT THE MOTION TO TABLE THE MINUTES UNTIL I CAN BE DONE? YES.
SO WE WILL, THE MOTION HAS BEEN APPROVED THAT WE WILL
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TABLE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES PENDING ACTUAL RECEIPT OF THE MINUTES RECEIPT OF THE ACTUAL MEETING MINUTES RATHER.MOVING ON TO OLD BUSINESS VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE UPDATE FROM MIA.
UM, NOT AS MUCH THE PEOPLE AS I WAS HOPING, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE BIG GOALS THAT WE DID WAS WE HAD, WE MANAGED TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE COMMISSION TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WEREN'T AWARE OF EXACTLY WHAT WE DO OR SO, UM, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY WHO WORKED THE DIFFERENT EVENTS.
WE, THE TOTAL TALLY OF THE REGISTRATIONS, WE HAD, WE HAD NINE THAT WE REGISTERED AND WE HAD, I BELIEVE, UM, I DON'T THE NOTES ON THERE, BUT I BELIEVE WE HAD, UM, THEY WERE ALL NEW EXCEPT FOR ONE WAS AN UPDATE.
SO I WENT TO THE, AND THEY WERE ALL MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
SO I WENT INTO THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS ON MONDAY AND TURN THEM IN.
AND, UM, THEY, THEY DOUBLE CHECK THEM ALL.
I WAS THERE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS OKAY AND THEY SAID EVERYTHING WAS FINE.
SO THOSE NINE PEOPLE WILL BE REGISTERED.
SO, BUT, UM, AND I STILL, UH, WE STILL HAVE, UM, WE HAVE ALL THE PAPERS AND PAMPHLETS AND STUFF THAT WE CAN USE IN THE FUTURE.
I'M THERE, UNLESS THEY MAKE CHANGES TO THEIR FORMS. SO I WILL JUST HAVE THOSE STORED UP, UH, STORED AWAY FOR WHEN WE DO THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
SO, OR WHEN WE HAVE A NEXT ELECTION AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ALL WEEKEND TO DO THAT.
HATS OFF TO EVERYONE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MANAGE, GETTING TOGETHER, PULLING TOGETHER A VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE WITHIN A PRETTY MUCH A THREE, THREE WEEK TIMEFRAME.
UM, EVERYTHING FROM THE PROMO AND MARKETING TO SETTING THE BOOTHS UP.
UM, SO WE WERE AT, UH, WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, UM, JUST TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, LAST WEEKEND, WE WERE AT MANNA BARBERSHOP.
AND THEN ON THAT SATURDAY, WE WERE AT THE FARMER'S MARKET AND THE LIBRARY, AND THEN THAT FOLLOWING WEEKEND WE WERE AT, UM, ON FRIDAY, WE WERE AT THE FOOD BAZAAR.
AND ON THAT SATURDAY, WE WERE AT NEW SEASON MINISTRY AND THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND ON THAT SUNDAY, WE WERE AT FAITH AND FELLOWSHIP AND IT WAS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY REGISTER PEOPLE TO VOTE, BUT TO ALSO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE COMMISSION AND MIA, I THINK WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET A FEW VOLUNTEERS, AS WELL AS WE PROMOTED, UM, PROMOTED THE COMMISSION.
AND ALSO WE HAD, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE PRESENT, UH, AND BY OUR SIDE.
AND WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH FOR THOSE.
AND THANK YOU TO JOSH KING, WITH THE PARKS TO, UM, HELPING US SET UP AND EVERYTHING AS WELL, TOO.
SO, UM, THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR PULLING THAT, TO GATHER ANY, ANY OTHER ADS ON THE VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE YOLANDA.
I DID JUST WANT TO MAKE A SPECIAL SAND SPECIAL, THANK YOU TO ANNE LIONS FROM WARD SIX, WHO WAS THERE BASICALLY ALL DAY WITH US, UM, GLENN OTTO, WHO SHOWED UP TO SUPPORT.
UM, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT WERE THERE, RICHARD SHAW, I THINK HE WAS AT FOOD BAZAAR.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO REALLY THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CITIZENS TO SEE THEM ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THEY'VE APPLIED FOR THE COUNCIL THAT SHOWED UP TO SUPPORT.
AND KATHLEEN WAS THERE AS WELL.
I'D BE REMISSED TO FORGET HER.
SO WHEN AND RICHARD WERE AT THE FRIDAY'S, UM, FOOD BAZAAR WITH YOLANDA, CERTAINLY.
THE COMMISSION INITIATIVES AND PRIORITIES IN OUR PREVIOUS, OH NO, I SKIPPED PROCLAMATION AND RESOLUTION RHONDA MISS SUMLIN.
SO OUR WORK GROUP, WHICH IS TERRA MIA, JANE AND MYSELF, UM, HAS STARTED A FIRST READ OR FIRST DRAFT, IF YOU WILL, OF A PROCLAMATION, WHICH CAN THEN BE TURNED INTO A FULL RESOLUTION.
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UM, WE ARE GOING TO ASK MADAM CHAIR, IF WE CAN TABLE THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WORK ON THIS THE MORE, UM, AND BRING THIS BACK TO OUR NOVEMBER MEETING SO THAT THE COMMISSION CAN DO A FIRST READ ON WHAT WE HAVE.UM, AND AT THAT POINT, HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE HAVE TO THIS POINT, BUT WE HAVE A NICE WORKING DOCUMENT AT THIS POINT.
WE DO WANT TO DO SOME MORE WORK TO IT.
SO WE WOULD ASK FOR A TABLE FOR THAT DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.
SO JUST TO, TO BE CLEAR, ARE YOU ANTICIPATING BRINGING A DRAFT PROCLAMATION AND RESOLUTION TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING? SO IT'S GOING TO BE A DOCUMENT, A PROCLAMATION THAT COULD BE BUILT INTO AN ACTIONABLE RESOLUTION, UM, THAT WE CAN CREATE AS A GROUP.
UM, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BRING WHAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND THEN LET'S AS A COMMISSION, LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO ADD, WHAT MIGHT BE MISSING, WHAT MAY NEED TO, UH, WHAT MAY NEED TO BECOME A PART OF WHAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE CAN TAKE THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE INPUT AND TURN IT INTO A FULL RESOLUTION.
SO, UM, I THINK IT CAN, IT CAN DO BOTH.
WE HAVE SOME GOOD EXAMPLES OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, WHAT THEY DID FOR A PROCLAMATION.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER, UM, EXAMPLES TO BENCHMARK WHAT CITIES HAVE USED AS A RESOLUTION.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE AND HAVE SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO, TO DRAW FROM.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UM, WE'D LIKE TO JUST TABLE THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL OUR NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING OR NOVEMBER MEETING.
WE'LL TABLE THAT AND MOVE THAT, UM, TO OUR NEXT MONTH MEETING.
COMMISSION, INITIATIVES AND PRIORITIES.
LAST MONTH, WE TALKED ABOUT THREE FOCAL AREAS THAT THE COMMISSION OR AGREED UPON THREE FOCAL AREAS THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD TARGET.
AND THAT WAS THE EDUCATION, UM, REFORM AND OUTREACH.
AND AT THE TIME WE WERE GOING TO, UM, EVERYONE'S GOING TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT THEIR PASSION AREAS WERE.
AND WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS FORMING WORK GROUPS AROUND EACH OF THOSE AREAS.
SO FIRST OFF, UM, WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE WHAT OUR GOALS AND INITIATIVES WERE FOR THE COMMISSION.
UM, THE LEGISLATION, OUR MISSION STATEMENT WAS WRITTEN SUCH THAT, UM, I WILL READ THE MISSION STATEMENT IN CASE YOU ALL DON'T REMEMBER IT, IT'S SERVING THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS TO COMBAT DISCRIMINATION AND PROMOTE TOLERANCE THROUGH ENGAGEMENT OF THE DIVERSITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND AT SOME POINT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW OUR, OUR MISSION STATEMENT TO REVAMP IT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY PROMOTING TOLERANCE THROUGH ENGAGEMENT, BUT INSTEAD INCLUSION THROUGH ENGAGEMENT.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
UM, I DID NOT ADD THAT TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE.
BUT OUR PURPOSE IS TO, UM, PROMOTE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND POOL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL PERSONS WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION, BECAUSE OF RACE, ETHNICITY, COLOR, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN TO COMBAT DISCRIMINATION, RACISM, AND OTHER BIASES THROUGH EDUCATION, MEDIATION, POLICY LEGISLATION, AND COMPLAINT REVIEW A RESOLUTION.
SO, AND THAT IS WRITTEN IN OUR LEGISLATION, WHICH I THINK, UM, IS VERY REFLECTIVE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONSISTENTLY, UM, REVIEW THAT PART OF OUR LEGISLATION SO THAT WE STAY FOCUSED AND TARGETED.
SO THESE THREE AREAS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING SHOULD ALIGN TO, TO WHAT I JUST WROTE
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TO WHAT I JUST READ TO YOU.THERE WERE, UM, SOME OF YOU WHO BROUGHT UP THAT YOU WERE VERY INTERESTED IN WORKING ON, IN SPECIFIC CAPACITIES WITHIN THE COMMISSION AND THOSE THREE AREAS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US KIND OF BREAK DOWN WHICH AREAS WE WOULD FOCUS ON WITHIN THE COMMISSION OF THOSE THREE, THE EDUCATION REFORM AND OUTREACH.
I KNOW THAT IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, I BELIEVE THAT ERIC AND ERIC, ERIC AND ERIC, UM, SAID THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN, UH, WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE POLICE REFORM INITIATIVES AND DOING SOME REVIEW OF WHAT'S EXISTING THERE.
SO I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING ON.
AND REMEMBER THESE AREAS INITIALLY WE WOULD, OUR INITIAL GOAL WAS TO LOOK AT WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING IN THE CITY.
WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THESE THREE AREAS? AND WHAT MORE CAN WE BE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S INCLUSIVE? SO SAYING ALL THAT, EITHER PARTICULAR TOPIC AREAS OR THAT EACH OF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, IN WORKING IN A WORK GROUP, NOT EVERYONE AT ONCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO, IF WE COULD PUT A, UM, A DESCRIPTION OR SOME VERBIAGE BEHIND WHAT WE, WHAT WE SEE THESE, UM, EACH ONE OF THESE SUBCOMMITTEES DOING.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE EDUCATION AND I WROTE EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY FOR SOME REASON, THE LAST TIME WE MET, BUT THEN WE HAVE REFORMED AND THEN OUTREACH.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS OUR, WHAT ARE OUR CONCEPTIONS AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE AND HOW THEY, HOW WE REPRESENT THEM TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE AS THEY RELATE TO THE CITY? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO TO BASICALLY TO DEFINE WHAT THEY MEAN TO US IN CANADA, I DON'T WANT TO PIGEON HOLE IT, BUT TOO, SO WE CAN HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO BEFORE WE JUMP INTO ALL OF THIS, THESE COMMUNITIES AND ALL OF THIS WORK AND VOLUNTEER FOR STUFF, BECAUSE I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WITH MYSELF, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE I CAN ASSIST IN ALL THREE OF THESE, BUT I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO SO THAT I KNOW HOW I CAN HELP.
WELL, LET'S TALK, GO AHEAD, GENE.
WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH.
CAUSE I THOUGHT ON THE LAST MEETING AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS STATED IN THE MINUTES THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN ORDER TO DEFINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THESE THREE MAIN INITIATIVES.
SO WE NEED TO DO THAT FIRST BEFORE GOING TO DETAIL, OR SHOULD WE GO INTO DETAIL TO GET SOME IDEA BEFORE DOING THE ASSESSMENT? I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION ON THAT AMONGST THE UNCOMMIT MISSION.
WELL, FIRST OFF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WILL, WOULD BE A COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
UM, AND WE WILL LOOK AT THESE SPECIFIC AREAS, WHICH I ALSO HAVE THAT WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT RESULTS IN ORDER TO FORM THESE WORK GROUPS, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY WRITTEN IN OUR LEGISLATION.
THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK TARGET.
THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON.
SO THAT'S ALREADY PRETTY MUCH A GIVEN WE CAN BREAK DOWN, UM, IN MORE DETAIL WHAT EACH OF THESE LOOKS LIKE WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH.
UM, SOME OF THE IDEAS WITH THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE, UM, WITH EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT DIFFERENCES AND BIASES AND RACISM, UM, WE FORM CAN BE BROKEN DOWN IN MULTIPLE AREAS.
A COUPLE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE POLICE REFORM, UM, SPECIFIC POLICY REFORM, UM, LOOKING AT, UM, POLICIES TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MINORITY BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY THAT WILL ALSO FALL UNDER WE FORM THE OUTREACH, UM, WOULD BE ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO SUCH AS ACTUALLY WE HAVE, UM, MLK ON HERE.
UH, OUTREACH WOULD BE MORE OF THE, UH, WE DISCUSSED, I THINK A CULTURAL FEAR AT ONE POINT.
SO THINGS WERE, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING ACTIVITIES, UM, OR EVEN REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND GETTING THEM ENGAGED
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WITH THE COMMISSION.WHAT OTHER THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, ANYTHING ELSE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS.
SO AS IT RELATES TO COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND ADVOCATE, CAUSE SEE, AND I'LL KIND OF JUST USE A REENTRY PROGRAM THAT I DIRECTED AS SORT OF A BENCHMARK, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IN THE COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE IS WE LOOKED AT SOCIAL ISSUES, UM, AS IT RELATED TO THAT POPULATION.
AND WE LOOKED AT WAYS THAT WE COULD ADVOCATE, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY DEALT WITH WAS, UM, NOT HAVING THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND WE FOUGHT LONG AND HARD.
WE WENT TO MEETINGS AT THE STATE LEVEL.
WE DID A LOT TO TRY AND ADVOCATE FOR THEM TO GET THOSE RIGHTS BACK ONCE A DAY IN OHIO, THEY HAVE THOSE RIGHTS IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
IF THEY ARE AWAITING TRIAL, IF THEY'RE ON PROBATION OR IF THERE'S ONE OTHER CATEGORY NOW THEY'RE ABLE TO VOTE.
SO FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, JUST LOOKING AT THE SOCIAL ISSUES, THAT IMPACT MARGINALIZED GROUPS OR THAT IMPACT PEOPLE OF COLOR, UM, AND LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN ADVOCATE TO OBTAIN SOME OF THOSE SOCIAL ISSUES.
OTHER THOUGHTS IF I MIGHT, WHEN I THINK OF ADVOCACY, I ALSO THINK OF, UM, ECONOMIC, UH, CONSIDERATIONS FOR DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS.
AND I, AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE ECONOMIC MAKEUP OF, OF A HUBER HEIGHTS IS, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND HOW MUCH OF YOUR BRIDES MIGHT BE RURAL OR, OR, OR THAT SOME OF THAT SORT OF THING, BECAUSE THERE'S A, A DISADVANTAGED POPULATION THERE AS WELL.
SO AS IT RELATES TO, AND I'M SURE THERE'S NO, WELL, NOT SURE, BUT WHEN WE THINK OF ECONOMIC DISENFRANCHISEMENT AND FOOD DESERTS AND THEN THAT SORT OF THING, UM, DOES THAT RELATE TO, TO THE POPULATION OF HUBER HEIGHTS? I DON'T KNOW.
SO, AND THAT MIGHT BE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT MR SCHOMER MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON, BUT, UM, AS, AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO EXTENSION, EVEN FOR, UM, AND, AND OF COURSE I HEAR THIS WORD ON CAMPUS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXTENSION ARM OF, UH, OF OUR 1890 LAND GRANT, UH, THAT GO INTO COMMUNITIES AND, AND, AND, AND BRING CERTAIN RESOURCES FROM USDA.
AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT TOO, BUT THAT, OF COURSE THAT'S, UH, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAKE UP OF OUR, UM, ECONOMIC STRATIFICATION ISN'T IN HUBER HEIGHTS, BUT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT MIGHT, MIGHT HELP.
UM, SO LET ME ASK, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE EDUCATION PIECE, OR WE TALK ABOUT EDUCATION AS IT RELATES TO THE COMMUNITY, JUST THE COMMUNITY, OR IS IT THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT, OR ONE OF THE OTHER, OR BOTH, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON WHEN WE SCHEDULE LOCATION EDUCATION, WHO'S THE TARGET AUDIENCE.
I WOULD SAY THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE THAT SERVE THE COMMUNITY BOTH.
I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF EDUCATION BLEEDS INTO KIND OF THE REFORM PART OF IT.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE IS THE EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY GROUP DOING THE RESEARCH AND THE GROUNDWORK TO BUILD ON WITH THE REFORM GROUP OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE TARGETING? CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY MULTIFACETED LEVELS THAT CAN COME WITH EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FROM MY WHEELHOUSE AS A SOCIAL WORKER, WHAT DO YOU START? SPEAKING OF ADVOCACY THAT COULD BE SO MANY VARIOUS THINGS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE SOCIAL ISSUES THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY ALSO LOOK INTO WHEN IT COMES TO TYPE OF, UM, FAIR HOUSING TYPE THINGS.
AND, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO, I GUESS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE DIFFERENT SOCIAL STRATIFICATIONS OR HOUSEHOLD MAKEUPS AND THINGS, AND THE THINGS THAT AFFECT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE WHEN CHANGES COME ABOUT AND THINGS HAPPEN.
UM, BUT AS A SOCIAL WORKER, YOU KNOW, I GUESS AS THIS GROUP, I WOULD PERSONALLY
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LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE, KIND OF THE EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY, CAUSE I KIND OF HONESTLY FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT I'M GOOD AT.UM, BUT ARE WE LOOKING TO BE MAKING AND CREATING EDUCATION MATERIALS AND THEN WORKING WITH THOSE IN AN ADVOCACY STANDPOINT, OR I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BASELINE OF, OF WHAT THAT GROUP WOULD BE LOOKING TOWARDS THROUGH EDUCATION PER SE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE THAT EDUCATION, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AS MAYBE PREM SPEAKING TO, UM, HE, UH, ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, DISADVANTAGE OR WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, UH, ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED GROUP, IF YOU WILL, UH, ONE IDEA WOULD BE TO PROVIDE MAYBE LIKE FINANCIAL LITERACY, RIGHT? UH, TO, TO HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO POTENTIALLY GET THEMSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE A MUCH BETTER FINANCIAL SITUATION, ECONOMIC SITUATION, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, COULD WE PROVIDE EDUCATION IN THAT AREA, RIGHT.
UH, TO HELP HELP CERTAIN GROUPS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING IMPACTED, UH, OR JUST SAY ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED, RIGHT.
WE CAN PROVIDE THEM THAT EDUCATION, FINANCIAL LITERACY.
SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT, I SHIFT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER, AND THAT PIECE IS HUGE BECAUSE IT IS ALMOST LIKE A SEGUE INTO SO MANY OTHER THINGS.
SO, UM, I AGREE THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S AN ALIGNMENT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
AND IN LOOKING AT FINANCIAL LITERACY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT HOME OWNERSHIP AND HOW DO BECOME A HOMEOWNER? HOW, HOW DO YOU INVEST, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR CITY BY OWNING A HOME? YOU KNOW, SO ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND THE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO TALK TO CITY LEADERSHIP ABOUT.
I'VE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH ON HEALTHCARE AS IT RELATES TO MANAGE CARE AND STATE FUNDED HEALTH CARE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE MAY BE A DISPARITY, AND, AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WHEN YOU HAVE DENTISTS AND DOCTORS, OFFICES THAT DO NOT ACCEPT STATE FUNDED AND MANAGED CARE.
THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST SAY A CERTAIN POPULATION OF PEOPLE.
UM, AND SO THEN THAT BECOMES ANOTHER WAY TO SEGREGATE GROUPS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO, I THINK, UM, NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
I'VE CALLED SEVERAL DENTISTS AND SEVERAL DOCTOR'S OFFICES IN THE HUBER HEIGHTS AREA.
THEY DO NOT ACCEPT STATE FUNDED, MEDICAID, MEDICARE.
UM, THEY DON'T ACCEPT ANY MANAGED CARE PROGRAMS. AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SAY WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING ANY NEW PATIENTS.
SO ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, SEPARATE PEOPLE, IT'S NOT AN, IT'S NOT EQUITABLE.
WHEN I SAY THAT I CAN'T SERVICE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CERTAIN QUALITY OF HEALTHCARE.
I'M BASICALLY SAYING THAT YOU DON'T QUALIFY OR YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.
AND SO I THINK THAT STUFF HAS TO BE LOOKED AT WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S FAIR AND WHAT'S EQUITABLE IN OUR CITY.
SO I WORKED DIRECTLY WITH MEDICARE MEDICAID, MY FULL TIME JOB AND THE MANAGED CARE ISSUE AS IT IS A HUGE ISSUE.
AND THE WAY THAT THE PAYER SYSTEM IS SET UP, IT IS SET UP BY THE STATE LEVEL.
AND ALTHOUGH IT IS AN ACKNOWLEDGED ISSUE, AND THERE IS A SCRIPT'S GERONTOLOGISTS DOING RESEARCH SPECIFICALLY INTO THE OVER 60 WAIVER RIGHT NOW, UM, WHICH IS PART MANAGED BY MANAGED CARE.
AND THE WAY THAT IT IS SET UP IS A NIGHTMARE.
AND THE REASON, NONE OF THE DOCTORS LIKE IT IS THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES ARE CRAP.
AND, BUT THAT IS A BUREAUCRATIC GOVERNMENT GOVERNOR TYPE ISSUE THAT LIKE, ALTHOUGH IT'D BE LOVELY TO TANGLE WITH AT OUR LEVEL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S A CAN OF WORMS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THIS FIELD FOR SEVEN YEARS AND IT'S DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER NOT TO LIKE, I'M TRYING TO VALIDATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AT THE SAME PART, BUT AT THE SAME PART, LIKE WHEN YOUR GOVERNOR IS SAYING, EVERYTHING GOES TO MANAGED CARE AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE DOING THIS, IT'S HARD TO TELL THEM THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT,
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BUT THIS IS THE LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE.SINGLE MOTHERS, TARA, YOU'RE A SINGLE MOTHER LIKE I AM.
UM, AND WHEN YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR DAUGHTER TO A DOCTOR, BECAUSE NOW YOU, YOU DON'T, YOU MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY FOR THIS, BUT NOT ENOUGH FOR THIS WHEN YOU'RE AT THAT PLACE, THAT THAT BECOMES THAT'D BE, TIME'S AN ISSUE.
I HAVE A FRIEND THAT NEEDED A ROOT CANAL AND CALL IT ALL THE WAY TO CINCINNATI.
SHE CARE SOURCE CALLED ALL THE WAY TO CINCINNATI.
NOBODY WOULD ACCEPT HER INSURANCE AND SHE ENDED UP JUST HAVING THEM PULL THE TOOTH OUT BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T GET ANYBODY TO PAY FOR IT ON MEDICAID.
YOU DEAL WITH ISSUES OF NOT GOING TO GET HEALTH CONCERNS ADDRESSED.
YOU DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION, YOU CAN'T GET TO CINCINNATI.
SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE SITUATIONS TO PEOPLE WHO, WHO CAN'T GET ANSWERS OR WHO CAN'T, WHO CAN'T GET ANYONE TO LISTEN.
SO I SEE IT AS ANOTHER TERM OF DISPARITY, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH IT AT A CITY LEVEL? AND CAN WE DEAL WITH THAT AT A CITY LEVEL CLINICS? IF WE, IF WE THOUGHT ABOUT OPENING SOME TYPE OF A, A SLIDING PAY SCALE TYPE CLINIC OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT FEED THAT GAP, COMMUNITY MEMBER, PLACES LIKE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR HOUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THOSE DENTAL CLINICS AND HAVE THE DOCTORS AND TRAINING COMING IN DOING THOSE PROCEDURES THERE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S IT, THEN IT BECOMES THE BARRIER OF WAIT TIME.
IT BECOMES A BARRIER OF YOU HAVE SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS TRYING TO ACCESS ONE PLACE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE AVAILABLE.
LIKE WHEN I WAS ON MEDICAID, I ABSOLUTELY HAVE A MOUTH FULL OF DIXIE DENTALS.
UH FIDDLINGS THAT ARE SLOWLY BUT SURELY GETTING PAID FOR OUT OF POCKET AND FIXED.
NOW THE, THE QUALITY OF CARE IS POOR.
THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES ARE POOR AND IT JUST CAUSES AN ENTIRE SYSTEM OF, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE LINK BACK TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY COMES IN, WHERE RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SYSTEMS AND THE BARRIERS IN PLACE.
IF I'M GOING TO SIT AROUND WITH A ROTTEN TOOTH IN MY MOUTH, AND THEN IT GETS IN MY BLOODSTREAM, AND THEN THAT TURNS INTO A BIGGER ISSUE AND BIGGER ISSUES AND BIGGER ISSUES.
SO IT IS, THAT COMES, I THINK.
AND HONESTLY, FOR ME BACK TO THE PROCLAMATION OF LINKING THIS BACK TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, IT IS, I AGREE, I HAVE TO GET OFF MY SOCIAL WORK BOX NOW.
YOU'RE OFF OF IT WITH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT ALL FALLS UNDER, UM, ADVOCACY.
SO I THINK THAT IN GOING BACK TO WHAT OUR POPULATION NEEDS, HOW WE TIE THIS INTO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS BROKEN AS WE BREAK IT DOWN INTO THOSE THREE AREAS AND WE MAY NEED TO BREAK EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY OUT SEPARATELY.
AND CHAIR, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE THAT IS SO BROAD.
YOU CAN BE TALKING ABOUT FINANCIAL EDUCATION.
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OH, EDUCATION IN GENERAL HEALTH.
SO I AGREE THAT COULD BE SEPARATED INTO ITS OWN.
SO ARE WE IN, WHERE ARE WE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD SEPARATE OUT EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY? I AGREE.
SO THEN RONDON TARA AND ADVOCACY, IS THAT RIGHT? YEP.
UM, SO AS WE, THE WAY THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT REALLY CAN WORK INTO THIS IS SINCE WE HAVE NOW FOUR TARGETED AREAS, OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT COULD BE, UM, PUT TOGETHER SUCH AS THAT IT TARGETS THOSE FOUR AREAS.
AND WE MAY, WE CAN COME UP WITH IDEAS ALL DAY LONG, BUT WE KINDA NEED TO SEE IF OUR RESIDENTS NEED THESE THINGS.
SO AS WE FORMULATE, UM, A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WE CAN BREAK IT OUT INTO THOSE TARGET AREAS OF EDUCATION ADVOCACY, AND THEN OUR OUTREACH AND REFORM.
AND THEN TO HAVE TARGETED QUESTIONS AROUND THAT, TO DETERMINE WHICH OF THESE SERVICES WITH OUR COMMUNITY NEED.
HOW WOULD WE FACILITATE, UM, I GUESS, EXIT TO THEN THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT? HOW WOULD THAT BE ADMINISTERED? THAT'S FARTHER DOWN ON THE AGENDA.
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A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.AND WE WILL HAVE A WORK GROUP FOR THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AND THEY'LL LOOK AT THAT PROCESS.
MADAM CHAIR, ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND FORMALLY, UH, MAKE A NARRATIVE ON WHAT EACH WORKING GROUP IS GOING TO BE EXECUTING OR HOW EXACTLY IS THAT GOING TO BE SET UP? SO EACH GROUP CAN HAVE SOME TARGETED IDEAS JUST AS WE TALKED ABOUT A SECOND AGO, WE TALKED THROUGH SOME IDEAS, UM, ALIGN THOSE TO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THEN LET OUR NEEDS REALLY DRIVE WHAT OUR PRIORITY INITIATIVES AND ALL LEADING ALL LEADING BACK UP TO THE MISSION STATEMENT OF OUR COMMISSION, CORRECT? YES.
DO WE STILL NEED TO THE GOALS OF THE COMMISSION? DO WE STILL NEED TO REVISE THOSE GOALS OF THE COMMISSION BASED OFF OF THE EARLIER CONVERSATION? OKAY.
UM, I'M I MOVED THAT WE WERE, WE MAKE A FORMAL MOTION TO PROVISE THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE COMMISSION SECOND.
IT'S UH, SO MOVES AND SECOND TO APPROVE THAT WE WILL REVISE THE MISSION STATEMENT QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE, UM, THE VANECK OF
I'M JUST PROCESSING, UH, MOTIONING AND SECONDING DOESN'T CARRY A MOTION.
UH, IT WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO BE VOTED UPON.
UH, SO THE, THE EARLIER ON WITH THE MINUTES MINUTES DON'T HAVE TO BE VOTED ON, BUT IF IT IS GOING TO BE A BUSINESS OR ACTION OF THE, UH, OF THE COMMISSION, UM, THE, THE PROCESS WOULD BE THE MOTION IN A SECOND.
AND THEN WE WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
YOU CAN EVEN VOTE THROUGH ROLL CALL OR, UH, IF THE CHAIR WOULD WANT TO WEIGH A VOTE, A CONSENSUS BY CALLING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, TYPE OF SCENARIO, WHICHEVER WAY YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO DO SO.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE GET THOSE THINGS DOCUMENTED AND DONE CORRECTLY FOR YOU.
SO I WAS SO MOVED AND SECONDED AND WE NEED A ROLL CALL.
I DID HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE GO, ARE WE VOTING ON A PARTICULAR MISSION STATEMENT OR VISION STATEMENT, OR ARE WE JUST VOTING TO MODIFY IT, REVISE IT TO WHAT THAT'S, WHAT WE'LL DISCUSS? YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BE MORE SPECIFIC JUST US GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND BRAINSTORMING ON WHAT WOULD IT BE A SPECIFIC MISSION STATEMENT TAILORED TO COOPER HEIGHTS.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF ROLL IN THOSE WORKING GROUPS INTO THAT MISSION STATEMENT AND THE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS INTO THAT, THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT UP TO THAT MISSION AND GOAL STATEMENTS.
THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP OURSELVES ORGANIZED AND ALIGNED AND FOCUSED ON OUR, OUR OBJECTIVE AS A COMMISSION.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THE WHOLE MISSION OF THE COMMISSION, WOULD IT NOT STAND TO REASON TO ADOPT OR TO VOTE ON VOTE ON THIS NEW MISSION STATEMENT ONCE WE HAVE IT DEVELOPED? SO THE, MY MOTION IS TO GO FORWARD TO REVISE IT, AND THEN WE WOULD READDRESS AND THEN VOTE ON APPROVING THE NEW REVISED STATEMENT.
SO WHEN WE BRING IT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE VOTE ON IT AGAIN, CORRECT.
IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PROCESS CORRECTLY, ROB? YES, I'M IN TECHNICALLY THE, THE MISSION STATEMENT IN, IN, IN, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE MISSION, WE CERTAINLY WANT YOU TO, TO MAKE CHANGES, MODIFICATIONS, AND GROW AND DEVELOP IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE, WE HAD THE BOILER PLATE, WE HAD THE FOUNDATION.
SO THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION IS GREAT.
THE PROCESS WILL BE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MISSION STATEMENT.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL.
UH, AGAIN, THIS BEING AN ADVISORY BOARD, UM, THE ACTUAL, UM, LEGISLATION, THE ACTUAL STATEMENT, THE ORDINANCE THAT IS ATTACHED TO THIS COMMISSION, UH, HAS TO BE CHANGED BY COUNCIL OFFICE LEE.
SO THAT PROCESS WOULD INCLUDE A NEXT STEP BEFORE IT WOULD BE, I SAY, FORMALLY ADOPTED BECAUSE THAT WILL BE DONE, UH, BY VOTE OF COUNCIL UPON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR.
SO YEAH, YOU COULD CERTAINLY, UH, TAKE ON THE TASK TO DEVELOP A REVISED MISSION STATEMENT.
AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, THEN, UH, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME FOR THE COMMISSION TO VOTE ON THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN IT'LL PASS ON THROUGH, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, WE CAN GET A FORMAL, OKAY.
SO I HEAR THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING.
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RIGHT.I THINK, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE MISSION STATEMENT WE VOTE WHEN WE GET THE WORK TOGETHER.
AND THEN WE TAKE THAT AND IT GETS PRESENTED TO THE ACCOUNTING.
DOES THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS TO BE ACCEPTED? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YEAH, THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND IT CAN REALLY BE DONE EITHER WAY.
IF OUR MISSION WANTS TO TAKE IT AS A FORMAL INITIATIVE, THEN IT WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE TO, UH, TO TAKE THAT MOTION, VOTE ON THAT AND MAKE THAT AS AN ITEM OF BUSINESS FOR THE COMMISSION TO TAKE ON THE WORK PRODUCT AT THE END WOULD THEN BE VERIFIED AND VOTED ON, UH, AS WELL.
SO IT, IT CERTAINLY CAN WORK THAT WAY.
THE BOAT IS THE BOAT IS TO US FOR CONFIRMATION THAT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO REVISE THE MISSION STATEMENT.
I THINK TO RON'S POINT WAS WE DON'T TECHNICALLY HAVE TO, I GUESS, MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COMING UP WITH IDEAS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MODIFY THE STATEMENT.
WE DO THAT NOW AND THEN BRING IT ONCE WE AGREE UPON IT.
WE CAN BRING IT FORWARD IN
STEFAN IS MAKING IS, IS THAT WE'RE INITIATING THAT CONVERSATION AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ADMISSION HERE.
SO I AGREE WITH HIM THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE IT DOCUMENTED THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH, UM, A REVISION OF THE MISSION STATEMENT TO COME BENEFIT OR LATER TIME WITH A NATURAL PRODUCT THAT WE RECOMMEND FOR CAMP, FOR COUNCIL, UM, TO ADOPT.
SO DO WE NEED A FELLOW IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND, SECOND.
HI MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON.
SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH REVISING THE MISSION STATEMENT, SO GOTCHA.
BACK TO THE PERMISSION INITIATIVES AND PRIORITIES, WE DID NOT FINISH THAT.
UM, SO OUR NEXT STEP WITH THAT IS, DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE? AND, UH, MR. AKINS, YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT IS, HAVE WE BROKEN THIS DOWN, IDENTIFIED IT TO A LEVEL OF DETAIL WHERE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE, UM, KIND OF ALIGNING THEMSELVES TO THAT AREA.
HAVE WE PROVIDED AT LEAST ENOUGH HIGH LEVEL DETAIL? AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE WORK GROUPS ACTUALLY GET INTO A MORE SPECIFIC DESCRIPTION OR THE GROUP? YEAH.
WE IDENTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN A PARTICULAR FOCUS AREA, AND THEN THEY GO BACK AND BRAINSTORM ON SPECIFIC SOME SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES, UH, THAT THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AND THEN BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE GROUP TO THE FIRM IT UP, YOU KNOW, THIS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
I AGREE WITH THAT PICK OF WHAT GROUP THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE PEAK.
I WOULD LIKE OUTREACH OUTREACH ALSO OR EDUCATION EVEN MORE OR BOTH.
I MEAN, I COULD DO EITHER ONE OUTREACH IS MY STRENGTH, SO IT'S LIKE, I LIKE, OKAY, MADAM CHAIR.
FOR EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH, MADAM CARE, ADVOCACY AND OUTREACH FOR ME.
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OKAY.UH, DEREK STEVENS REFORM WAS SPECIFICALLY, SO WHEN WE SAY REFORM RIGHT, THEN WE TALKED ABOUT HOW DO I EXPRESS, THANKS FOR SAYING THAT THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, BUT I THINK THERE WERE SOME OTHER REFORMS AS WELL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, WAS IT HIRING PRACTICES? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THAT WAS SORT OF REFORM IT'S ALL ASPECTS OF REFORM THEN, RIGHT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WHEN WE VOLUNTEERED AT THE REFORM, IT'S, IT'S ALL ASPECTS OF REFORM.
IF WE FIND THAT THERE ARE, UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO FOCUS, HAVE FOCAL AREAS OF REFORM.
SO WE KNOW THAT THE POLICE IS ONE, UM, AND THEN THE HIRING PRACTICES WE MENTIONED WOULD BE ANOTHER.
SO MAYBE THE GROUP THAT WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON REFORM, WE COULD LOOK AT, DO WE NEED TO BREAK THAT DOWN EVEN FURTHER AND HAVE INDIVIDUALS ALIGN? IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, I'M ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING GROUP WITH THE SCHOOLS? I MEAN, CAN WE ALSO WORK WITH OUR, UM, I KNOW, I KNOW WE DON'T GOVERN THE SCHOOLS, BUT IT'S A COLLABORATION WITH THE, WITH OUR, WITH OUR CITY SCHOOLS AND THEY'RE IN THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING STAGE RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO, UM, TO BRING UP ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND CULTURE AND THAT, UM, AND TALKING TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, HE'S VERY INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.
SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO GET THAT GROUP ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN, IN OUR COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE EDUCATION THAT WOULD BE UNDER REFORM, OR I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVING US INPUT INTO THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING.
ME AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT OVERLAPS EVERYONE, ALL OF THEM.
I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, UM, UH, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY OUT HOW MANY COMMITTEES AND WE WORK ON MR. SCHIRMER HAD HIS HAND RAISED TOO.
I JUST WANTED TO, UH, I KNOW WE HAD A LITTLE CONVERSATION, UH, LAST MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL LEARN AS WE GO.
UM, AND AS FAR AS WORK GROUPS IN COMMITTEES, THERE'S A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT.
AND I JUST WANTED REMIND YOUR FORMING COMMITTEES.
AND THE PROCESS FOR THAT WOULD BE, IS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION CAN CREATE AN ASSIGNED COMMITTEES.
SO THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION WOULD ACTUALLY ASSIGN THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND ALSO DESIGNATE A CHAIR FOR THAT RESPECTIVE COMMITTEE.
SO ANY COMMITTEES THAT WOULD, UH, CHOOSE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS, UH, OR HAVE DELIBERATIONS OR DISCUSSIONS WOULD NEED TO BE A PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETING, UH, AND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY, UM, TECHNICALLY INTERCHANGE THE TERMS WORKING GROUP AND COMMITTEES, A WORKING GROUP, WHAT WAS LIKE THE ELECTION THING, ALL THE TASKS WERE VOTED ON BY THE ENTIRE COMMISSION AND THE PEOPLE THAT WENT OUT AND DID THE WORK, DID THE WORK.
THEY MIGHT'VE GOT TOGETHER, BUY SUPPLIES, DISCUSS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT DAY.
THAT'S KIND OF WORKING GROUP, BUT WHEN YOU'RE ASSIGNED A TASK OUT, AND THAT GROUP IS GOING TO DEVELOP IDEAS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO BRING BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE A FORMAL COMMITTEE AND JUST WANTED TO COVER THE PROCESS FOR ASSIGNING THOSE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IT NOW.
AND THEN MADAM CHAIR, IT WOULD BE YOUR DISCRETION TO MAKE THOSE ASSIGNMENTS, UH, NAME THE COMMITTEES, AND THEN ASSIGN THE CHAIR.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PREEMPTING THE QUESTION OF HOW WE FORM THE COMMITTEES WHEN YOU'RE READY.
SO ROB, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE WANT WORK GROUPS, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE FORMING COMMITTEES.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SET OUT AND HAVE TASKS AND DISCUSSIONS AND MEET AS A GROUP TO DEVELOP IDEAS AND BRING RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT CERTAINLY WOULD BE A COMMITTEE.
A WORK GROUP IS MORE THINK OF IT MORE AS A TEMPORARY THING, UH, IF FOR A SPECIFIC TASK OR EVENT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE KIND OF A STANDING ONGOING THING.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING BY COMMITTEE OR COMMITTEES.
ALL MEETINGS HAVE TO BE PUBLIC.
I LIKE WHAT THE PROCLAMATION RESOLUTION WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
WE'RE EXCHANGING IDEAS VIA EMAIL.
THERE'S A FEW OF US WORKING ON IT, CORRECT.
BECAUSE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IS OCCURRING IN THIS FULL COMMISSION.
AND YOU'RE JUST BRINGING THAT INFORMATION BACK AS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON IT.
BUT WHEN YOU ASSIGN DEVELOPING IDEAS, TASKS, PROGRAMS, UH, YOU KNOW, REFORM POLICIES, ET CETERA, THOSE COMMITTEES ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THOSE.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A LONGER TERM THING.
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HAS HIS HAND RAISED, I GUESS, TO GO BACK TO ROBERT'S POINT.UH, SO AS A WORKING GROUP SHOULD, AND TO, TO, TO YOUR SELF, AS WELL AS A MADAM CHAIR, UH, AND GOING BACK TO FRED'S POINT AS WELL, UM, AS A WORKING GROUP, SHOULD, SHOULD WE FORMALIZE OUR, OUR, OUR OBJECTIVE AND THEN WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE AS A WORKING GROUP.
AND THEN WE WILL ESTABLISH THAT COMMITTEE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHING YOUR UNIT, DEFINITIVELY ESTABLISHING THE CABINET, THAT COMMITTEE VERSUS GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE COMMITTEE PROCESS.
SHOULD WE BRAINSTORM ON WHAT WE, WHAT WE ENVISIONED THE, THESE WORKING GROUPS, UH, HOW WE ENVISIONED THESE SPECIFIC PARTICULAR SPECIALIZED AREAS SHOULD BE FIRST.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, RIGHT? YEAH.
COULD WE AT LEAST RIGHT IN THE INTERIM, RIGHT? YEAH.
I WOULD THINK FOLKS COME TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH IDEAS THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY LEAD INTO THE COMMITTEE.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF EXECUTING IT, RIGHT, IT ALL GETS DONE UNDER THE COMMITTEE, BUT AT LEAST I TO SAY, HAVE A FEW FOLKS, MAYBE A FLEXOR WORKING GROUP TO AT LEAST, HEY, HERE ARE SOME OF THE IDEAS OR SOME OF THE FOCUS AREAS.
IN TERMS OF EXECUTION AND EVERYTHING WE, THAT ALL GETS HANDLED AND PROCESSED UNDER THE COMMITTEE, IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT MOBILE? YOU KNOW, I, I, I WOULD SAY THERE'S, UM, THERE'S PROBABLY A FINE LINE THERE AND I GOTTA BE HONEST IN, WE ALWAYS ERR ON SIDE OF THE TRANSPARENCIES AND AIR ON SIDE OF, OF, YOU KNOW, THE OPEN MEETINGS FOR SURE US.
AND I KNOW NOBODY'S TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THAT BECAUSE IT'S A MATTER OF TIME SCHEDULING AND EFFICIENCY.
SO THERE'S THAT BALANCE OF MANAGING THE BUREAUCRACY AND STILL TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT.
UM, AND IT, IT SOUNDS AS IF, IF YOU'VE GOT THE IDEA OF THE OVERVIEW OF THE COMMITTEES THAT YOU WANT TO FORM, UM, JUST AS A RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD TITLE THOSE COMMITTEES, INDICATE WHO'S INTERESTED ON THEM, ASSIGN THE COMMITTEES.
AND THEN THE COMMITTEES WOULD THEN, UM, COME UP WITH OUR IDEAS, SCHEDULE THEIR FIRST MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP THEM FROM THERE.
BECAUSE IF YOU WERE TO ASSIGN THE GROUP OF PEOPLE, HAVE THEM WORK TOGETHER TO FIND OUT SOME THINGS RELEVANT TO THAT GROUP, THAT'S GOING TO TURN INTO A COMMITTEE.
I THINK SOMEONE COULD EASILY SAY, WELL, YOU FORMED THE COMMITTEE AND YOU'VE BEGUN WORK ON IT.
UH, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD USE THAT KIND OF, UM, UM, UH, INTERPRETATION AND POINT OF VIEW IN DETERMINING WHETHER HAS IT REACHED A LEVEL OF COMMITTEE OR WORKING GROUP.
UM, AND I, AND I THINK IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE VERY DIFFICULT OR, OR LONG INVOLVED AT ALL.
SO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T COMPLICATE THE IDEA OF, OH, NOW IT'S A COMMITTEE AND IT'S GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY FORMAL IN, IN COMPLICATED.
IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, IT'S REALLY AS SIMPLE AS WHO WANTS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, THE CHAIR ESTABLISHES IT AND THEN YOU ALL GO OFF AND GET TO WORK.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FORMAL DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUBLICLY NOTICE THOSE AND YOU AFFECT THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION OR THE COMMITTEE, I SHOULD SAY, UH, TOGETHER IN PUBLIC, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME INDIVIDUAL WORK AND IDEAS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FINDING INDEPENDENTLY TO BRING TO THE COMMITTEE FOR YOUR MEETING.
UM, I ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE, WOULD BE THE SMALLER WORK GROUPS, RIGHT.
AND WE CAN'T MEET, IS IT NO MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE IN A WORK GROUP? IS THAT WHAT FOUR OF US, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING, A PUBLIC MEETING, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.
IF YOU HAVE A QUORUM OF COMMISSION MEMBERS, THEN IT'S A COMMISSION MEETING.
SO THAT'S WHY COMMITTEES WOULD BE A, UM, A NUMBER OF FOUR OR LESS.
SO THAT MIGHT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, RHONDA, OF HOW MANY WE CAN BE ON.
CAUSE IF IT HAS TO BE FOR LAST TIME, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SPLIT BETWEEN.
AND, AND ONE OTHER THING TOO, TO CONSIDER AS WELL IS A, YOU KNOW, THIS CITY HAS MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THE CITY HAS, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS IS SCHEDULING.
SO, UM, ONE OF, ONE OF THOSE OBSTACLES THAT JUST LIKE FINDING THIS DATE TONIGHT, RIGHT.
AND SO SOMETIMES WE JUST GOTTA, YOU JUST GOTTA SET YOUR MEETING DATE AND IF THERE'S A QUORUM, GREAT.
AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY EVERY TIME, IT'S JUST THE WAY LIFE IS HERE.
HAS, ARE YOU STILL ON OUR CALENDAR FOR ONE MORE MEETING? YEAH.
IT'S ROUGH GETTING THIS TOGETHER.
AND WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT YOUR MAIN COMMITTEE GROUP FOCUSES AREAS OF FOCUS.
UH, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE READY TO MAKE THOSE ASSIGNMENTS AND UM,
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YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU'RE RIGHT ON TARGET FOR THAT.SO, UM, SO THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMMITTEES AT THIS POINT THEN.
SO FOR OUR OUTREACH, I HAVE FRED MIA, JANE AND RHONDA FOR EDUCATION.
I HAVE RHONDA AND KARA REFORM.
CAN YOU ADD ME TO EDUCATION TOO, PLEASE? OKAY.
MADAM CHEROKEE ADDRESS OF REFORM PLEASE.
IF THERE'S ROOM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO ON WHICH ONE TEAR IT BROKE THAT I'M SORRY.
UH, REFORM AND ADVOCACY, BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO REFORM, I CAN STICK TO JUST ADVOCACY.
ANYONE ELSE FOR ADVOCACY? ARE YOU GOING TO GO DOWN THAT LIST AGAIN SO I CAN WRITE THEM DOWN.
FRED MIA, JEAN RHONDA EDUCATION, JEAN FRED MIA ADVOCACY, RHONDA TARA REFORM.
ERIC, I HAD YOU ERIC RICHARDSON IN THE RIGHT AREA, CORRECT REFORM, CORRECT? YEP.
SO THOSE WOULD BE OUR COMMITTEES AND, UM, WE'LL LET COMMITTEES ELECT THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO EACH COMMITTEE CAN ELECT A CHAIR OR YOUR COMMITTEE.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO ESTABLISH A CHAIR PRO TIP UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, AT LEAST THAT WAY YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO CALL THE MEETING.
IT'S GOING TO CHEER THE COMMUNITY.
FRED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE THAT PERSON FOR OUTREACH? NO, NO, NO.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN TO FIRST LIST JEAN.
MA'AM UH, YOU'LL BE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR PULLING THAT GROUP TOGETHER AND THEN YOU ALL CAN DECIDE WHO WILL CHAIR.
ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TARA DO IT.
HUH? I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON THE PROCLAMATION AND RESOLUTION RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M GOING TO GIVE BACK TO TARA RIGHT NOW.
AND SO SHE'LL SET THE MEETING FOR THAT AND FOR REFORM, I'VE GOT ERIC FIRST, SO WE'LL HAVE ERIC, ERIC STEVENS SET THE MEETING FOR THAT.
AND ONCE YOU MEET, YOU CAN DECIDE WHO WILL ACTUALLY BE THE CHAIR FOR YOUR COMMITTEE.
WE DO HAVE FOR OUTREACH MIA, JEAN RHONDA.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE MY NOTES, CORRECT.
AND THEN LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ALL WILL MEET OR DISCUSSION, KEEP ME IN THE LOOP PLEASE.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS UNDER THAT?
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OKAY.WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? YES.
REGARDING JUST THE BUSINESS OF THE COMMITTEES WHEN YOU MEET, UH, ALSO, UH, JUST COORDINATE WITH US FOR THE DATE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT.
UM, AND SOMEBODY WOULD JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE TO KEEP NOTES FOR MINUTES AND, UH, WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY THOSE AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU HAVE THOSE MINUTES, UH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCESS THOSE AND GET THOSE ATTACHED TO THE, UM, UH, TO THE ONLINE FORUM.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, THE ONLY, THE ONLY OTHER THING.
UM, SO, AND YOU COULD UTILIZE, UH, UH, REALLY ANY PUBLIC SPACE.
UM, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE DEPENDENT UPON THE AVAILABILITY OF EITHER THE COUNCIL ROOM, UNLESS YOU WANTED THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS LIVE-STREAMED, UH, OR ANYTHING SO LONG AS PUBLIC HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW THE MEETINGS.
SO CURRENTLY OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MEET IN PERSON, YOU WILL BE WELCOME TO USE EITHER THE CONFERENCE ROOM HERE, UH, OR, OR THE, OR THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IF IT'S AVAILABLE OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC AREA, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT ONLINE, THEN WORK WITH US.
WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET IT SCHEDULED TO WHERE, UH, PUBLIC CAN, UM, CAN VIEW THAT.
SO WE HAVE MORE TIME OPTIONS THAN WE DO FOR OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS THEN SINCE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE LIVE STRAIGHT.
UH, YOU, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, UH, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT IT HAS TO BE LIVE STREAMED.
UH, THERE'S JUST A REQUIREMENT THAT THE PUBLIC HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW IT.
AND THAT COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A MEETING LIKE THIS, WHERE WE OPEN UP A, THERE'S ANOTHER ELEMENT TO TEAMS THAT WE CAN USE CALLED A LIVE EVENT, UH, THAT CAN ALSO BE CAST WHERE PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE JOINED IN AND BEING ABLE TO SPEAK OR BE HEARD, BUT THEY COULD WATCH THE PRESENTATION PER SE.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME TECHNOLOGICAL TECHNOLOGY, UM, UM, OUTSIDE OF USING OUR LIVE STREAM SYSTEM, UH, THAT COULD BE APPLICABLE FOR A, UH, FOR A COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT LESS FORMAL.
BUT COMMISSION MEETINGS DO HAVE TO BE LIVE STREAM.
IT IS, IT IS CERTAINLY PREFERRED IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT BECAUSE WE FEEL, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IS MOST TRANSPARENT AND OPEN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ACCESSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO SEE THEM AND HAVE POTENTIAL INPUT.
UH, COMMITTEES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE OF A, OF A, OF A WORKING TYPE OF THING.
UH, BUT THE FORMAL ACTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONS IN COUNCIL, WE PREFER TO HAVE THEM, IF THERE EVER IS A CONFLICT THAT WE CAN'T FIND A DATE AND WE HAVE TO DO IT IN ANOTHER FASHION, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.
IF WE'RE RUNNING INTO A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN'T FIND A DATE, UH, OR THERE IS A CONFLICT, IF IT IS TEETERING AROUND HAVING TO HAVE A LIVE STREAM, WE CAN ALWAYS RECORD IT AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE LATER.
SO USE THE COMMUNITY ROOM AT THE POLICE DIVISION, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN SET UP FOR US IF THAT IS THE DATE AND TIME THEN, UH, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT YOU WANT, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY CALL AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AVAILABLE WHEN SCHEDULE THAT? NO PROBLEM.
UH, THERE IS A, THERE IS ALSO ABOUT TO COME ONLINE.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY, UH, WE ARE FINISHING UP AND, AND BRINGING ANOTHER MEETING SPACE ONLINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AVAILABLE, UH, IN, IN THE TIME OF NEEDING TO SPREAD OUT AND HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS.
UH, THAT'S BEEN, ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES IS TO IDENTIFY SOME ADDITIONAL SPACES AS PEOPLE COME BACK IN PERSON, UH, AND BEING ABLE TO DO SO SAFELY.
SO WE HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL OPTION FOR US ON THE TABLE.
SO FOR NOW, SHOULD WE CONTACT KATIE RANDOM? I'M SORRY.
SO HOW MUCH TIME IN ADVANCE DO WE NEED TO LET YOU KNOW, OR TO SCHEDULE A COMMITTEE MEETING? GOOD QUESTION.
I DIDN'T COVER THAT MEETING NOTICES FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE REQUIRED TO BE NOTICED AT LEAST 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
WE PREFER TO HAVE A WEEK, UH, BECAUSE IF THERE'S ANY ASSEMBLAGE OF DOCUMENTS OR ANYTHING, WE LIKE TO PUT THAT OUT FOR, FOR PUBLIC NOTICE, BUT UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING THAT SOMETIMES SCHEDULES ALLOW MORE OF A CONDENSED NOTICE MUCH LIKE THIS MEETING FOR THIS WEEK AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE NEED A MINIMUM OF 24 HOURS.
SO IF IT WAS TWO O'CLOCK, UH, TODAY, AND WE NEEDED TO HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW, NOON, WE CAN'T PUT, WE CAN'T NOTICE IT.
AND ROB, WE SHOULD WORK THROUGH WHO
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TO GET THOSE ARRANGED.YEAH, CERTAINLY WORKED THROUGH, UH, THROUGH KATIE OR, UH, UM, UH, OR IF HE CAN'T GET AHOLD OF KATIE, UH, OUR CLERK OF COUNCIL, UH, ALSO IS AVAILABLE OR MYSELF.
UH, SO JUST KATIE, I WOULD SAY WOULD PROBABLY BE FIRST.
UM, AND CAMILLE I'M SURE AS A RESOURCE AS WELL, BUT, UH, UH, YOU'RE USUALLY ALWAYS GET AHOLD OF KATIE AND IF SHE CAN'T GET TO IT, SHE'S GOT CAMILLE, ME AND SOME OTHER RESOURCES, SO WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO HELP YOU OUT.
I'M MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM MEETING SCHEDULE.
UM, FIRST THURSDAY SEEMED TO WORK FOR PEOPLE.
IS THAT GOOD? ARE WE, CAN WE GO WITH FIRST THURSDAYS, MADAM CHAIR? THANK YOU.
UM, I WOULD SAY THIS FIRST THURSDAY WILL WORK FOR ME, BUT UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER MEAT EATING AT SIX THAT IS SEARCHABLE THAT LASTS NO MORE THAN AN HOUR.
IF THAT IS THE CENSUS OF THE COMMISSION TO CLUB WITH THURSDAY, I WILL BE AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S JUST BASED ON THAT TIME CONSTRAINT.
THURSDAY SEVEN FIRST, THURSDAY, 7:00 PM.
I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT DATE AND TIME.
WE HAVE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED MEETING SCHEDULE.
NEW BUSINESS BIAS BASED SERVICES POLICY, MR. SCHLEMMER.
UM, THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT I, UH, THAT I HAD IN THE HOPPER, UH, ACTUALLY DURING, AND A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE FORMATION OF THIS COMMISSION.
SO I THOUGHT IT'D BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO TAKE, UH, TAKE IT IN FINAL DRAFT FORM AND, UM, UH, SEE WHAT OTHER OR ANY IDEAS THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD COME ABOUT.
AND AGAIN, THIS, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE IT AND THEN PERHAPS, UH, ANY, ANY FEEDBACK OR INPUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN PASS ONTO ME.
I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE, UM, THE, THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND POLICIES IS, UH, SPECIFY IF WE MUST GENERALIZE WHEN WE CAN.
UM, SO THIS IS, UH, ONE OF THOSE POLICIES THAT IS MORE GUIDELINES IN GENERAL, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY SPECIFICS THAT WE COULD DRILL DOWN TO, BUT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE MORE OF AN OVERREACHING TYPE OF GUIDELINE AND POLICY.
SO, UH, BRIEFLY IN, IN AN OVERVIEW FORM, WE WANTED TO DEFINE THIS.
THIS IS VERY COMMON IN OUR, UH, IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? UM, FOR YEARS, UH, BACK WHEN, UH, WHEN WE WORKED ON ACCREDITATION, UH, AND W YOU KNOW, MY FORMER TIME THERE AS POLICE CHIEF BY SPACE POLICING WAS A TOPIC AND WAS THE, THE COMMENTARY AND THE PHILOSOPHY WAS, WELL, IF WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING ACTIONS TO PROHIBIT TRAIN AND TAKE ACTION ON ANY TYPES OF ACTIONS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED DONE WITH A BIAS THAT REALLY SHOULD APPLY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL CITY SERVICES.
SO I'VE BASICALLY TAKEN THAT CONCEPT AND APPLIED IT TO A CITYWIDE APPROACH TO SAY, ALL SERVICES, WHETHER IT IS SOMEONE AT A FRONT DESK, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, PLEASE FIRE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, UH, THOSE, THOSE TYPE OF, OF, UH, PHILOSOPHIES AND PREMS SHOULD BE APPLIED ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT BIAS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE DEFINITION, WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, A BASIC ON PROHIBITION.
UH, WE'VE GOT EMPLOYEE EXPECTATIONS, SUPERVISOR MANAGEMENT EXPECTATION.
THOSE TWOS IN COMBINATION IS BASICALLY THE CONCEPT, UM, UH, TO PUT IT BRIEFLY, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
AND IN OTHER WORDS, IT DOES NO GOOD TO HAVE, UH, POLICIES IF THEY'RE NOT ENFORCED WITH EXPECTATIONS THAT IT'S EVERYBODY'S JOB, NOT JUST MANAGEMENT'S JOB TO MAKE SURE THE POLICIES ARE FOLLOWED.
UH, AND, UM, ANOTHER ASPECT IS, IS COMMITTING OURSELVES TO A LEVEL OF TRAINING, MAKING SURE THAT AT ENTRY LEVEL THERE'S TRAINING ON THESE PARTICULAR AREAS, AS WELL AS ONGOING TRAINING, UH, AND THEN ADMINISTRATION OF IT, MAKING SURE THAT, UH, IF THERE IS AN ISSUE OR A COMPLAINT RECEIVED, THAT IT IS INVESTIGATED, UM, THAT THE EXPECTATION IS AT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A REVIEW AND ANALYSIS OF IT.
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SEEM TO BE, UH, ALMOST A GIVEN WHY, WHY PUT THEM IN POLICY FORM, AND IT'S QUITE FRANKLY, A LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND ELA AND ACCOUNT OF ORGANIZATIONAL DISCIPLINE.SO WHEN, AND IF SOMETHING OCCURS, YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO REFER BACK TO TO WHERE YOU CAN SAY TO AN EMPLOYEE OR GROUP OF EMPLOYEES, LOOK, THIS WAS THE EXPECTATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATION BECAUSE WE'RE VIEWED AS POLICY YOU'VE SIGNED OFF ON THIS POLICY AND YOU KNOW, THAT IT IS AN EXISTENCE, AND IT'S BASICALLY THE WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE TO SELF-DISCIPLINE AND, UH, AND MANAGE THE ORGANIZATION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PREMISE OF IT.
UH, IT, IT IS GENERAL AND BROAD.
I USE THE ANALOGY OF, UM, THINGS LIKE, UH, I'VE ALWAYS HAD A UNIFORM POLICY, BUT I DON'T TELL YOU, YOU HAVE TO ZIP AND SNAP YOUR PANTS.
YOU FIGURED THAT OUT YOURSELF.
UM, UH, YEAH, AGAIN, IT'S REALLY EASY TO TAKE A TOPIC LIKE THIS AND, AND COME UP WITH PROBABLY 50 PAGES WORTH OF POLICY, UH, REGARDING CERTAIN SPECIFIC THINGS.
UH, BUT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK THE MAIN POINTS ARE ADDRESSED.
THIS IS SOMEWHAT MODELED AFTER SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE IN, UM, ON THE POLICE SIDE OF THINGS WHERE WE MAKE REPORTS TO, TO ACCREDITATION, WHICH IS A, UH, CERTAINLY A NATIONAL AGENCY OF A REVIEW AND REFORM, UH, THE STATE, UH, AND, UM, THE, UH, THE OTHER CRIMINAL JUSTICE TYPE OF, UM, ORGANIZATIONS AND INSTITUTES.
SO THE, THE PREMISE FOR IT IS, UH, IS THERE.
AND, UM, UH, I, UH, I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD STEP.
UM, I THINK IT IS A, ANOTHER APPROACH BY THIS COMMUNITY TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE.
AND THIS IS THE TOOL THAT WE CAN BEGIN DOING THAT, UH, FOR MANY THINGS.
SO LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, ANY, UH, ANY REVIEW OR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO INTRODUCE IT TO THE, UH, TO THE COMMISSION AND, UM, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE, UM, HAVE SOME INPUT AND SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
UM, UH, AGAIN, NOT ALL FOR TONIGHT SINCE IT'S JUST INTRODUCTORY.
WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE OUR FEEDBACK? YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THERE'S, THERE'S NOT REALLY A, A CRUNCH DEADLINE, UH, BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE, UM, HAVE OUT AS WE FINALIZE OUR REVIEW THIS YEAR OF OUR INTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES.
SO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT HERE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND ROB, YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON.
ALL OF OUR POLICIES ARE LIKE THAT.
IF A POLICY IS ISSUED OUT, WE'VE GOT, UM, UM, A, UM, KIND OF AN ELECTRONIC DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
SO WHEN, WHEN A POLICY OR DIRECTIVE IS ISSUED OUT, UH, KNOWLEDGE AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF RECEIPT OF THAT IS DONE BY EACH EMPLOYEE, AND IT WOULD APPLY IN THIS CASE TOO.
BIASED BASED SERVICES IS THAT, UH, YOU SAID OTHER CITIES HAVE ADOPTED SUBJECT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IS THAT A, UM, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT TERM.
I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED BY IT.
IT STEMS FROM, IT STEMS FROM THE TERM BIAS BASED POLICING.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY TO, TO ADDRESS AND PROHIBIT IT.
UM, AND, UM, THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, A BIAS BASED SERVICE WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, UH, APPLYING YOUR DELIVERY OF SERVICE BASED ON A WHOLE HOST OF AN INAPPROPRIATE RELIANCE ON CERTAIN CHARACTERISTICS, UM, UH, OR COMMON TRAITS OF A GROUP, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, UH, YOU KNOW, RACE, ETHNICITY, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, UM, YOU KNOW, IT ALL, ALL THINGS AND ALL FACETS, RELIGION, CULTURE, ET CETERA.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DELIVERING SERVICE, THAT YOU'RE NOT APPLYING ANY TYPE OF BIAS FOR EITHER PROVIDING A LACK OF SERVICE OR AN OVERUSE OF SERVICE, UM, SOME PEOPLE CALL IT RACIAL PROFILING, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMON IN THE, UH, IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT WORLD, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT TARGETING ANY SPECIFIC, UH, RACE FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF ENFORCEMENT, UM, TAKING THAT GENERAL CONCEPT AND APPLYING IT TO JUST THE GENERAL DELIVERY OF SERVICE, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EITHER OVER APPLYING A LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT TYPE OF SERVICE OR UNDER APPLYING A LEVEL OF GENERAL SERVICE AID AND, AND REFERRAL FROM OTHER ASPECTS AND ELEMENTS OF AT THE CITY SERVICES.
IF THAT MAKES SENSE, ROCK QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO THEN ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO POTENTIALLY SUBMIT RED LINE CHANGES TO THE, UH, TO THE DOCUMENT THEN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? YEAH,
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YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.AND AGAIN, YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND SUBMIT THOSE TO ME INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU'VE GOT RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, UH, I CERTAINLY WOULD, UH, IN, IN VALUE IN FOR THIS PURPOSE REACHED OUT TO SEE WHAT YOUR CONCEPT, ESPECIALLY AS RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS, YOURSELF TAKING THIS AS A PREMISE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH FROM THE INSIDE OUT.
WHAT, FROM THE OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE, DO YOU SEE WOULD BE IMPORTANT ELEMENTS TO INCLUDE, UH, MAYBE THEY ARE DEFINED, UH, MAYBE THEY NEED BETTER DEFINITION, OR MAYBE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF, UM, WITH THE PREMISE OF, OF MAKING SURE THAT, UM, WE, WE BASICALLY WANTED TO FIND WHAT IT IS.
UH, WE WANT TO SET EMPLOYEE EXPECTATIONS AND, UH, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER THEM.
FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME IF YOU, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A, IN A RED LINE.
ROB, HOW OFTEN DO YOU ALL REVIEW, UM, YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES OR, OR ANY INTERNAL POLICIES, UM, AS ANY ORGANIZATION? NOT AS OFTEN AS WE SHOULD.
UM, AND WE ARE, HAVE BEEN IN THE PROCESS, UH, KATIE, UM, AND, AND I STARTED ON THIS, UH, PROBABLY EARLIER IN THE YEAR, LATE LAST YEAR, KNOWING THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS ARE WHAT WE'LL CALL OUR CITY POLICIES EXIST IN A VARIETY OF FORMS. SO WE'VE GOT, FOR INSTANCE, PERSONNEL, UH, IN MERIT SYSTEM RULES, WE ALSO HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES AND THOSE HAVE ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE DOCUMENT.
AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS EXTRACT CERTAIN THINGS THAT ALLOW FOR A MORE EFFICIENT AND REGULAR REVIEW, UM, THE PERSONNEL SYSTEM AND MERIT RULES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY CHARTER TO BE A PRODUCT PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL, WHICH INVOLVES A MUCH SIGNIFICANT REVIEW PROCESS THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE DONE AS EFFICIENTLY OR AS OFTEN WE WANT TO EXIST IN ITS OWN THING.
SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS, THEN YOU'VE GOT INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT POLICIES SUCH AS THE POLICE DIVISION.
UM, I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH THAT OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2005, WHEN I WROTE THE ENTIRE POLICE MANUAL, UH, THERE'S UH, SOME AT THE TIME 800 STANDARDS FOR INTERNATIONAL ACCREDITATION THAT WE HAD TO WRITE POLICIES FOR.
SO THAT ADMINISTRATIVE MANUAL IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE COVERING THINGS FROM ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE, RECRUITMENT SELECTION, UH, USE OF FORCE, UH, BIAS BASED POLICING EQUIPMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL ASPECTS OF MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION OF, OF THAT FIRE DIVISION HAS, YOU KNOW, MANY SET POLICIES, FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS A VARIETY OF POLICIES THAT WOULD APPLY SPECIFIC TO FINANCE OPERATIONS.
UH, BUT AS A CITY, AS A WHOLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS REVIEW THEIR POLICIES, YOU KNOW, REGULARLY ON ANNUAL BASIS.
AND I WANT TO APPLY THAT REVIEW TO SOME OF THE LONGSTANDING AND NEED TO CHANGE ADMINISTRATIVE CITYWIDE TYPE OF POLICIES.
UH, AND THE GOAL WOULD BE TO DO THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UH, WHICH, UH, WHICH I THINK IS OFTEN ENOUGH TO, UH, TO INCORPORATE CHANGES IN LAW, CHANGES IN SENTIMENT, CHANGES IN, IN, IN NEEDS, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT NOT SO OFTEN TO WHERE THEY AREN'T INGRAINED IN INSTITUTIONALIZED WITHIN THE OPERATION OF THE ORGANIZATION.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I GUESS, CAUSE AS I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY LIKE POLICE REFORM AND POLICY CHANGES, SO, SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD, YOU'D BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH US, LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE POLICE POLICING POLICIES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND OBVIOUSLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS.
I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF, I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT, SO I ASSUME THEY GOT IT.
WHEN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU ALL MEET AS A COMMITTEE, I FULLY EXPECT AND, UH, WOULD, WOULD, UH, WAS ALREADY ON MY NOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES, I WANT TO REVIEW WITH YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE AMOUNT OF REVIEW THAT ALREADY IS BEING DONE IN SOME OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEY'RE ALL EXTERNAL TO US, UH, TO VALIDATE, VERIFY AND REVIEW, UM, OUR PRACTICES SPECIFIC TO THAT.
SO I'LL, I'LL CATCH YOU ALL UP ON THAT AS PART OF, UH, UH, AS PART OF THAT DEBT REFORM COMMITTEE.
SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION TOO, SO, RIGHT.
UM, SO WITH THE, LIKE YOU SAID, WITH THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES, OBVIOUSLY THOUGH, THEY'LL NEED TO BE IN A PUBLIC FORUM, WOULD YOU NEED TO BE PRESENT AT EACH ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS? I WOULD STILL LIKE TO HAVE YOU AT THE, I MEAN, OF
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COURSE THE ONE ON REFORM OF POLICING, OBVIOUSLY GIVEN YOUR BACKGROUND WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE YOU THERE, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF, IF THERE'S AN EXPECTATION OR NOT, OR NOT AT ALL.UM, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST, FIRST FEW, YOU KNOW, OUR ROLES, HOPEFULLY, UM, IN QUITE FRANKLY, I PROBABLY WON'T BE ATTENDING MANY MORE OF THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS, UNLESS YOU ASK ME TO BE HERE, I'M JUST HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE RESOURCES AND THE STRUCTURE TO GET THINGS SET UP AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT WHAT YOU NEED TO GET TO WORK.
UM, AND, AND OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE JUST HERE WHEN YOU NEED US, UH, WE, AND WOULD, WOULD EXPECT YOU TO, UH, TO CALL ON US WHEN YOU NEED SOMETHING AND WE'LL BE HERE ANYTIME THAT YOU DO NEED IT.
ANY OTHER, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
SO IN THE POLICIES, IT SPEAKS TO BEING AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN THE POLICY STATEMENT, WHICH INCLUDES ALL RACE, ETHNICITY, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, AGE, GENDER, GENDER, IDENTITY, AND EXPRESSION.
SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVEN IN THE OTHER GROUP OF THE PROCLAMATION.
IS IT HUBER HEIGHTS MISSION, OR IS IT THAT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY STATEMENT TO INCLUDE GENDER IDENTITY, EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION? BECAUSE I FEEL STRONGLY THAT IT SHOULD.
AND I THINK WE'LL BE VERY REMISS IF WE GLOSS OVER AN ENTIRE GROUP OF DISENFRANCHISED RESIDENTS.
SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKEN UP BY HUBER HEIGHTS.
IS IT IN POLICY THAT IT INCLUDES MORE THAN RACE, COLOR, CREED, RELIGION, YOU KNOW, IS IT MORE YOUR DEFINITION OF YOUR BIASED BASED SERVICES UP HERE? THAT INCLUDES JUST A MUCH BROADER GROUP YES.
TO ANSWER THAT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE POLICY OBVIOUSLY IS MORE RECENT AND MORE APPLICABLE AND MORE INCLUSIVE OF WHAT SOME OF THE CHANGES IN BOTH LAWS AND SOCIETY AND COMMUNITY DEMANDS REFLECT, UH, PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO ARE THINGS THAT HAVE LIKELY BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND ALTHOUGH THERE'S BEEN NEW, UH, NEW REFORMS, NEW TERMS, UH, NEW IDENTIFIED NEEDS, UM, SOME OF THOSE POLICIES LIKELY HAVE NOT CAUGHT UP TO THAT.
AND THE VERY EXERCISE OF REVIEW OF ALL THOSE AND TO WORK WITH THIS COMMISSION, WE ARE HOPING TO GET SOME STANDARDIZATION AND COMMONALITY AMONG THE DEFINITIONS ACROSS THE BOARD ON ANY APPLICABLE POLICY, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE DEFINING THINGS SUCH AS OUR EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ON THE PREMISE, I WILL SAY THAT WE NEVER WANT TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE LAWS, GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS THAT AFFECT.
SO WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, LET'S SAY EOC DEFINITION AND THAT'S OBVIOUS.
RIGHT? SO, UH, BARRING, BARRING THAT, UH, WE WOULD, UM, UH, WE CERTAINLY DO NEED TO MAKE SOME UPDATES, UH, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, NOTED EXACTLY BY THE DIFFERENCE IN AN OLDER DOCUMENT THAT IS STILL IN EFFECT JUST NEEDS UPDATED, UH, VERSUS A NEWER DOCUMENT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE REFRESHED REFORMATIVE LANGUAGES.
SO IS, ARE YOU TASKING US WITH THIS SPECIFIC POLICY AND THEN THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK BOOK THAT WENT IN TANDEM WITH THIS CAUSE, OR WILL ONE ROLL INTO THE OTHER, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, ON PAGE 10 ON IF YOU'RE 118 PAGE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST STATEMENT, SO IF WE'RE SAYING IT IN ONE THING, WILL ALL THESE OTHER DOCUMENTS THEN BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE ALL OF THESE PROTECTED GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT WE VIEW AS THIS COMMISSION OVERALL, WE'RE MAKING THIS STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, IS HE EVER GOING TO PICK IT UP? YES.
THE, THE, THE INTENTION OBVIOUSLY IS, IS TO HAVE ALWAYS A MODERN REFLECTION OF MODERN AND INNOVATIVE PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT DOES NEED SOME UPDATING IN MANY OF THE THINGS, THOSE POLICIES ARE APPROVED AND SET BY COUNCIL.
SO FOR ME TO SAY AN ABSOLUTE YES.
OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T, HOWEVER I CAN SAY THAT IT CERTAINLY IS THE DESIRE TO MAKE SURE TO REFRESH THOSE.
ARE WE TASKING YOU WITH THAT REVIEW? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
UM, OTHERWISE YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE THINGS THAT YOU CREATE WITHIN
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THIS COMMISSION TO GO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THINGS, LIKE MAKING SURE THAT OUR POLICIES, WHEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AT THE POINT THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL INPUT AND FOR REVIEW ON CERTAIN THINGS, NOT ALL OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO TAP INTO YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE ON AS A COMMUNITY.AND SO, UM, NOT THAT WE'LL PIECEMEAL IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT AS A WHOLE, WE'LL SAY, HERE'S THE WHOLE THING.
UM, AND, UH, UH, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT EFFICIENT.
SO, UM, THE THINGS WHERE IT WOULD APPLY LIKE DEFINITIONS, UM, ABSOLUTELY.
SO IN THE COURSE OF THIS, WHAT WE WOULD USE IS IN A DEFINITION AND IN A POLICY STATEMENT ON THIS, THE LANGUAGE WOULD EASILY BE REPLICATED AND APPLY TO ANY OTHER POLICIES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REFRESHING, UPDATED.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE APPROACH WE WOULD USE IS CREATE SOME OF THE BASELINE AND THEN USE THOSE AND USE THEM AS TEMPLATES TO BUILD IN AND MAKE CHANGES ON THE OTHERS.
MS. NEWBY HAS HER HAND RAISED? YES.
UM, I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S LEGAL REPRESENTATION ON CITY COUNCIL.
HAVE THEY EVER REVIEWED ANY OF THE POLICIES FOR THE CITY? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, IN FACT, MOST, UH, MOST POLICIES, UH, SPECIAL RELATED PERSONNEL AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE, UH, ARE, ARE, UM, CERTAINLY VETTED.
UM, ANYTHING CERTAINLY THAT GOES THROUGH AND IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE IS, UH, IS ALWAYS VETTED AS PART OF ANY PIECE OF LEGISLATION BY LEGAL.
UM, I CAN SAY THAT NOT EVERY SINGLE LITTLE MINUTE POLICY SUCH AS MAYBE EQUIPMENT ISSUANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT REALLY TRULY IS ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, LIKELY NOT, BUT WHENEVER THERE IS A POTENTIAL ELEMENT OF LIABILITY, UM, OR, UH, ANYTHING THAT WOULD GO THROUGH COUNCIL IS, IS ALSO REVIEWED AND IN EYED OVER BY LEGAL.
ROB WOULD BE WILLING TO PROVIDE TO US SOME TYPE OF, I GUESS, FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR WHAT THINGS YOU WOULD BE APPROVING AND THEN WHAT THINGS WOULD NEED TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL IN A MORE FORMAL FASHION FOR THEM TO APPROVE.
DID YOU PROVIDE US WITH, UM, SOME TYPE OF DOCUMENT THAT WOULD DETAIL THAT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS ORDER, THIS WOULDN'T NEED TO GO BEFORE TOWN, SO, CORRECT.
UM, IT IT'D BE HARD TO COME UP WITH A DOCUMENT AND LIST ALL OF THEM.
IT MAY BE JUST KIND OF A, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR DEFINITION OF WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UM, THE REQUIRED THINGS BY CHARTER TO BE PASSED BY COUNCIL VERSUS ADMINISTRATIVE AND INTERNAL OPERATIONAL POLICIES.
AND, UM, YEAH, SO I, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LIST OF EVERY SINGLE THING, PROBABLY MORE SO OF GENERALIZED DEFINITIONS OF IF IT FITS IN THIS CATEGORY VERSUS IF IT FITS IN THIS CATEGORY.
IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
WE NORMALLY, TO A COMMISSION SHINING, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY OWED BUSINESS BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED THAT LAST WEEK.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY UPDATE.
I THINK AS WE DISCUSSED IT LAST WEEK THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO LOOK FOR SOME TRAINING ON ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, UM, AND OTHER PERTINENT TRAINING.
THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION.
I KNOW CAMILLE, IF KATIE GAVE YOU ANY UPDATE ON THAT.
SO SHE SAID SHE SPOKE WITH TONY AND THAT IT COULD BE DONE, BUT SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK WITH YOU WITH THE SUBSET OF PACIFIC'S SPECIFICS, EXCUSE ME.
SO IT IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT, UM, SHE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU AND YOU GUYS CAN FIND IT, FINALIZE IT FROM THERE.
SO I WOULD ASK IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT YOU FEEL AS COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOU NEED TO BE TRAINED IN, PLEASE LET ME KNOW THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
AND WE BRIEFLY MENTIONED THIS EARLIER.
UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT NOW, SINCE WE HAVE DEVELOPED OUR COMMITTEES, WE CAN LOOK AT BREAKING UP OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT UNDER
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THE COMMITTEE AREAS.SO THERE WILL BE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT ARE GEARED AROUND OUR FOUR TARGET AREAS.
SO I WILL HAVE EACH OF THE COMMITTEES, UM, START TO THINK ABOUT AND DRAFT MAYBE POSSIBLE QUESTIONS THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WILL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW DEEP WE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
UM, ROB, BECAUSE WE MAY POSSIBLY NEED AN OUTSIDE PROVIDER TO DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT CITYWIDE.
SO WE'LL HAVE ONGOING DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION ON WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT? AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO ENGAGE THAT OR NOT OBVIOUSLY, AND, UH, WHICH AGAIN IS A FORMAL STEP, NOT NECESSARILY AN OBSTACLE STEP.
SO, UH, SO YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT ON TARGET WITH THAT, UM, GETTING THE IDEAS OF WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED, UH, EXTERNAL AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND THEN ONCE YOU'RE READY TO GO, UM, YOU KNOW, FORMALIZE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL TAKE THAT AS A RESOLUTION TO COUNCIL AND, UM, PROBABLY LIKELY HAVE, UM, HAVE THE CHAIR OR ANY OTHER MEMBERS INVOLVED, UH, JUST BASICALLY MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL TO DRAW AUTHORIZE THAT ACTION.
UH, IF IT COMES IN THE FORM OF A SURVEY, A VARIETY OF, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF DIFFERENT WAYS, WHETHER IT BE DIFFERENT MEDIAS, YOU KNOW, MAIL, PHONE PERSON, SOCIAL, ALL THAT STUFF.
SO, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT AND ALLOCATE ANY RESOURCES NEEDED TO GET THAT DONE.
SO IF WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO USE, UM, A PROVIDER TO ACTUALLY FORMALIZE THIS, THIS ASSESSMENT, SO EACH OF THE COMMITTEES COULD COME UP WITH THE FOCAL AREAS THAT MAY BE, WE WANT TO TARGET, OR WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION WE WANT TO GATHER BASED ON THESE FOUR AREAS AND THEN POSSIBLY WORK WITH AN OUTSIDE, UM, PROVIDER WHO SPECIALIZES IN NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
SO AT WHAT POINT IN THE PROCESS DO WE PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL, BUT I GUESS IT WOULD RELY ON WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WOULD BE NEEDING IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN THE FORM OF A CONSULTANT, PERHAPS COMING IN AND DOING A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES, FOCUS GROUPS, SURVEYS, ET CETERA, TO, TO IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS.
UM, THEN I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, THAT YOU WOULD COME UP WITH, UM, I GUESS SOME OF THE JUST REAL BASIC IDEAS AND PREMISES AROUND WHAT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT SHOULD ACCOMPLISH AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF IF YOU NEEDED AN OUTSIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, RESOURCE OR CONSULTANT TO DO THAT.
AND JUST FORMALIZE THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PRESENT TO COUNCIL.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS REGARDING, UM, POTENTIAL RESOURCES NEEDED SUCH AS COST, THAT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS WELL.
SO I WILL, UH, MIA, THAT'S MY HAND RACE, UM, WHEN I WAS AT THE FARMER'S MARKET, NOT THIS LAST WEEKEND, BUT THE WEEKEND BEFORE, IS IT SARAH ROB? UM, ROB THAT WORKS WITH THE CITY, SARAH.
YEAH, SHE HAD MENTIONED, AND VINCE HAD ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE PARKS AND RECS COMMISSION IS DOING THIS AS WELL, THAT THE CITY HAS NOT DONE A COMMUNITY WIDE SURVEY TYPE THING THAT SHE'S REVAMPING SINCE 2008 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE, SO SHE'S WORKING ON A BIG, A BIGGER SURVEY OR JUST AS SOME KIND OF A COMMUNITY.
UM, WE CALL IT ON CAMPUS, A CAMPUS CLIMATE SURVEY TYPE THING THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD DO.
SHE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT THE CITY WAS TIME TO DO, THEN THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS WORKING ON AND PARKS AND REC.
UM, IF VINCE, WE COULD TELL YOU THE PROCESS HE'S DOING IT IS GOING TO HAVE A SECTION IN THAT SURVEY ABOUT PARKS AND RECS.
THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE ON, AND SHE WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH US ALSO ON DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR, ADDING A SECTION INTO SURVEY AS WELL.
SO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AREN'T HIT WITH
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FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT SEPARATE SURVEYS TO FILL.THIS COULD BE ONE BIG, BIG THING.
AND THERE WOULD BE A SECTION ON OUR CULTURE AND DIVERSITY, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK THERE WAS THE VETERANS WERE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING.
SO I'M ADDING A SECTION TO THAT.
SO THAT WAS A SUGGESTION THAT SHE HAD BROUGHT UP THAT, UM, I, UM, THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEEDS ASSESSMENT AS AN OPTION OF, WE CAN ALSO DO THAT AS WELL AND, UM, JOIN IN ON THAT SURVEY TOO.
UM, SO THAT WAY RESIDENTS AREN'T BOMBARDED WITH MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE SURVEYS.
SO JUST, UH, JUST A, AN IDEA THAT, AND I, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM HER WHAT SHE SAID THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE, UM, A SOONER THAN LATER PROJECT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN A WHILE.
SO YES, FOR, FOR THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS, UM, IT SOUNDS AS IF THAT THE GOAL FOR THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT OUT OF THIS COMMISSION IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED.
UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE SOME THINGS, UM, GENERALIZED IN THE STUDY OR IN THE SURVEY, BUT IN A COMMUNITY SATISFACTION SURVEY, UH, YOU WOULD HAVE ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT SPECIFIC AREA AND, AND, UH, IT WOULD GIVE SOME GOOD, UH, UM, I, I GUESS MAYBE DIRECTIONAL, UH, INSIGHT, BUT NOT REALLY PEELING BACK MANY CURTAINS.
SO I THINK IT MIGHT, I MIGHT BE A GOOD PREDICATE TO FOLLOW UP, UH, FOR, UH, FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, BE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE IN DEPTH FROM A NEEDS ASSESSMENT HERE.
WE WOULD LOVE TO IN WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY DO IS WORK WITH, UM, WORK WITH YOU ALL TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF QUESTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
SO WE WILL HAVE, UM, OH GOSH, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WHEN OUR, OUR CHAIRS ARE ACTUALLY SELECTED FOR THE, FOR THE COMMITTEES, UM, THAT GROUP OF CHAIRS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT PIECE AS WELL, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO ROLL THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT PORTIONS UNDER THE COMMITTEES THAT LIKE FOR THAT COMMITTEE CHAIR TO WORK, UM, WITH ME WITH THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASB ASAP WHEN YOUR CHAIRS ARE SELECTED.
NEXT ITEM, MLK EVENTS, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M DONE.
UM, ROB, LAST YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, THE AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION, WHICH WAS WHICH I WAS A PART OF, UM, SHARED THE, UM, UNITY WALK, MLK UNITY, WHILE THIS WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT I BROUGHT.
UM, SO ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION WAS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
AND WE HAD A GREAT PROGRAM, I THINK FOR A FIRST TIME, UM, IN A NON-GROWTH EVENT, UM, WE HAD GREAT PARTICIPATION.
OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE LOVED BETTER PARTICIPATION.
UM, BUT I GUESS MY INITIAL ASK, UM, WOULD BE THAT OUR COMMISSION MMM, OKAY.
LEAD THIS, LEAD THIS EVENT OR LEAD THIS, UM, THIS EVENT.
UM, AND I'M SURE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
BEING THAT IT, IT KIND OF FITS INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AND IF THEY WANTED TO WORK WITH US, OBVIOUSLY WE'D BE MORE THAN, THAN GLAD TO CO PLAN, UM, THIS EVENT WITH ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION.
UM, BUT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS SOME BACKGROUND LAST YEAR, UM, WE HAD THE UNITY WALK AT EICHELBERGER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND, BUT WE STARTED OUT WITH A WHILE I'M AT ICO BURGER.
UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD A FULL PROGRAM.
WE HAD LOCAL DIGNITARIES, WE HAD COUNCIL, WE HAD THE MAYORS.
UM, WE HAD A PHIL PLUMBER THERE.
UM, WE HAD MR. WAYNE COME, HE GAVE US A SPEECH.
WE HAD OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS GIVE IAM SPEECHES.
UM, WE HAD SINGING, IT WAS A VERY, VERY NICE PROGRAM.
WE HAD A UNITY PLEDGE, UM, AND WE JUST BROUGHT PEOPLE
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TOGETHER AROUND, YOU KNOW, DR.UM, AND SO THIS YEAR, NEW SEASON MINISTRY, UM, HAS OFFERED TO ALLOW US TO USE THEIR CHURCH FOR THE PROGRAM.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO STILL, UM, PLAN THE UNITY WALK AND, UM, ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ELDERS AT NEW SEASON MINISTRY SUGGESTED THAT WE COULD EVEN, UM, START AT THE CHURCH OR, OR WALK FROM THE AMPHITHEATER TO THE CHURCH THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE THE WALK.
AND THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY GO INTO THE CHURCH FOR THE PROGRAM, PROVIDED HOPE.
IT ALLOWS US TO COME BACK TOGETHER IN THAT MANNER.
UM, SO I DO HAVE A PROGRAM, UM, JUST SO YOU ALL CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WAS ON THE PROGRAM, BUT MY ASCO OF URL IS THAT, UM, YOU ARE ALL WOULD, UM, BE EXCITED ABOUT DOING SOMETHING AWESOME FOR MLK, UM, AND THAT WE WOULD GET SOME IDEAS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UM, IT COULD BE A WEEKEND INSTEAD OF JUST A DAY, UH, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY WE COULD DO SOME VIRTUAL STUFF.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME IDEAS, SOME SUGGESTION I HAVE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS A BIGGER EVENT, UM, THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR, SO THAT WE COULD GET MORE PARTICIPATION FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
CAN WE LOOK AT, UM, MAYBE, UM, CO NOT COLLABORATING, BUT LOOKING AT THE TIME THAT THE CITY OF DAYTON IS DOING THEY'RE BIG, THEY DO A BIG BREAKFAST AND WALK EARLY IN THE MORNING.
SO MAYBE WE HAVE OURS IN THE AFTERNOON.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE, LIKE WITH ME, I'M AT BOTH THINGS FOR DIFFERENT FOR WORK AND STUFF, SO THAT WAY WE CAN ATTEND, UM, AND WE CAN MORE PEOPLE ATTEND BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF, MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING MULTIPLE EVENTS, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE THAT WAY.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S GREAT IDEA.
I LOVE THAT IDEA OF RHONDA, UM, OF WALKING TO THE CHURCH AND JUST BRINGING THE CITY TOGETHER, UM, AND FELLOWSHIP AND EVERYTHING TOO.
I MEAN, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
I THINK THIS IS AWESOME TO BE OUR, UM, OUR FIRST BIG, BIG EVENT THAT THE COMMISSION AND IT'LL PUT, I HONESTLY, I THINK THIS WILL PUT THE COMMISSION ON THE MAP TO WHERE MORE PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND GET MORE INTERESTED IN.
YOU'VE GOT SORT OF HANDED UP RIGHT DOWN TO GET USED TO.
I'M FINALLY GETTING USED TO USING THIS NOW ON A CPR.
UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY I CONCUR WITH MIA.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO DO THIS ACTIVITY FOR HEBREW HEIGHTS.
AND THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS SHOULD THIS FALL UNDER OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH COMMITTEE AS ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS. OKAY.
SO MR. CHAIR, CHAIR, CHAIR, PRO TEMP, FRED HELPED PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR OUTREACH, I GUESS, ROB, MY NEXT QUESTION IS, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THE ASS OF ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION
THAT IS WHY THIS COMMISSION WAS FORMED IS TO HAVE THAT ELEMENT OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
AND I KNOW YOU, AND I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, IN SPLITTING THAT OFF FROM OTHER THINGS TO GIVE IT THE ATTENTION AND FOCUS THAT IT DESERVES.
SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT HAS OCCURRED.
AND I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UM, YOU GUYS DO GET, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO SPEAK WITH THE CHAIR, UH, AND WITH THE STAFF REPS THERE TO JUST PASS ON THE WORD THAT, HEY, THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, THE, UM, CITIZEN DIVERSITY ACTION COMMISSION IS GOING TO TAKE THIS BALL AND ROLL WITH IT.
AND, UM, THEY NEED VOLUNTEERS OR HELP OUT IN ANY INPUT OR IDEAS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S AN ALL TEAM, ALL EFFORT.
SO, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY WORRIES AT ALL REGARDING OF WHERE IT RESIDES.
I THINK THAT, UH, WITHOUT A DOUBT, UM, THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY AND AN OUTREACH IS
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RIGHT.WE'RE AT, UM, THAT'S WHY IT WORKS, NEEDS TO BE HERE.
SO WE ARE TO OUR OTHER, ANY OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS, HONOR.
I FORGET THAT WE HAVE THIS RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, SO WOULD IT BE THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE THAT DOES LIKE UPDATING OUR, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA SITES AND STUFF, OR WOULD THAT BE, UM, ANY OF US BECAUSE I'M, I INVITED FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT, WHO ARE ON FACEBOOK.
I INVITED EVERYBODY TO BE AT EDITORS OR ADMINS OF THE, UH, OF THE NEW PAGE SO WE COULD POST OUR THINGS ON THERE.
SO I WASN'T SURE HOW THAT, HOW THAT WORK, BECAUSE I THINK I SENT YOU AN EMAIL RHONDA ABOUT, I'M NOT RHONDA, I'M SORRY, YOLANDA ABOUT A SUGGESTION, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE.
LIKE IF WE POST SOMETHING, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE THAT THIS IS HE AND RACE? I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY YES, THANK YOU.
UM, PUBLIC RECORDS IS A ANOTHER, UH, VERY SPECIFIC THING, UH, AND IT'S GREAT.
AND WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE AN OFFICIAL CITY COMMUNICATION WE ROUTE THROUGH, UM, MAKE SURE TO PASS IT ON TO US SO THAT WE CAN ALSO INCLUDE IT ON THE CITY'S, UH, OUTREACH EFFORTS.
AND, UM, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY COMMENTS RELATED TO THE BUSINESS OF THE COMMISSION, OTHER THAN JUST OUTREACH IN GENERAL CONVERSATION, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO DEFINE, BUT YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, OKAY, THIS IS REALLY KIND OF A DISCUSSION OR LANGUAGE OR A STATEMENT ABOUT THE OFFICIAL BUSINESS OF THE COMMISSION.
WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T BREACH THE PUBLIC RECORDS ASPECT OF THAT, RIGHT.
AGAIN, SO PART OF THE FUN OF A, THE BUREAUCRACY OF GOVERNMENT, ALL THEY HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, BUT IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL GOOD BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GOOD.
SO, UM, COORDINATE WITH SARAH, UM, WHO MANAGES SOME OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF AS WELL.
AND MAYBE THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW IT VERY WELL, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO LINK THINGS AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING OFFICIAL, UM, MAYBE WE THROW IT OUT AND THEN YOU GUYS KIND OF COPY IT AND SHARE IT IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, THAT WAY THERE'S THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
SO JUST COORDINATE WITH, WITH SARAH AS WELL, INCLUDE HER IN YOUR, IN YOUR LOOP OF, UM, UH, OF PEOPLE IN STUFF THAT YOU WANT PUSHED OUT THERE.
THAT'S WHAT, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
LIKE, LIKE WHEN WE SHARED THE FLYERS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, UH, VOTER REGISTRATION SECTION AND THE EVENT DATES LIKE, SO WHO DOES THAT? SO WE JUST THROW ALL THESE TO, UM, TO, TO YOU FIRST YOLANDA, AND THEN YOU TAKE IT TO SARAH, OR DO YOU WANT US TO EMAIL SARAH? YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME.
AND THEN WHAT I SHARED WITH YOLANDA WAS, UM, CAUSE IT'S, CAUSE WE ALSO, PART OF THE COMMISSION IS ITS CULTURE IS TO SHARE THE CULTURE TOO.
AND YOLANDA HAD BROUGHT UP, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, LIKE THIS IS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND WE HAVE A NUMEROUS, UM, LATINO OWNED BUSINESSES IN HUBER.
SO, UM, I THINK I DID LIKE A SELL IT.
THIS IS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IN THE HEIGHTS.
HERE'S THE BUSINESSES TO COME VISIT, YOU KNOW, OUR LOCAL HUBER BUSINESSES.
I SAID TO YOLANDA OF SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, AND THIS WOULD BE NOT AN EVENT WE WOULD HAVE, BUT LIKE A POSTING ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA SITES.
SO PEOPLE CAN SEE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CULTURE THING TOO.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I SHARED WITH YOLANDA ON, UM, ON HOW THAT WORKS.
WHAT DID YOU KNOW THAT, UM, THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME TOO, SO IT'S LIKE, I'M LEARNING AS WE GO.
SO, AND I THINK THAT OUR, WE ALSO WANT TO USE OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AS A MEANS OF EDUCATION.
RIGHT? SO THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE THE, UM, THE LATIN AMERICAN MONTH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE'RE EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THINGS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S MORE THAN APPROPRIATE.
I DON'T THINK THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, I THINK I'M FINE WITH, UM, OUR EVENTS.
WE CAN POST THEM, UM, AND WE CAN INCLUDE THE CITY AND ALSO SEND THOSE TO SARAH AS WELL, PLEASE.
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I'M FINE WITH THAT.AND, UM, I'M FINE WITH THE CHAIRS BEING ABLE, UM, AND EVERYBODY HAS, WHAT IS THE RIGHT TERM? NOT WHAT IS IT? EVERYBODY CAN PULSE ALL THE COMMISSIONS.
I THINK, I THINK WE MADE AN EDITOR.
I THINK I MADE YOU ADMIN CAUSE YOUR CHAIR.
AND THEN I CREATED THE PAGE, SO I'M AUTOMATICALLY ADMIN, BUT I CAN, WE GET SWITCHED, PAID ROLES TO, I PUT THAT ADMIN ROLE TO YOU YOLANDA.
CAUSE YOU'RE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE'S EDITOR.
THEY'RE STILL PENDING, UM, PENDING INVITES.
SO, UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHO, BUT THEY, UM, BUT YOU GUYS WERE SENT INVITES OF TO WHAT? SO WHEN YOU POST ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE, ESPECIALLY TWITTER, I'M STILL LEARNING.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE TWITTER.
BUT UM, FOR FACEBOOK, WHEN YOU POST IT AS AN EDITOR, YOU POST AS THE PAGE NAME, YOU DON'T POST IT DOESN'T SHOW UP AS YOUR OWN PERSONAL NAME.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THAT WAY, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PUT A FLYER OUT, IT DOESN'T COME UP LIKE AS ERIC RICHARDSON AND YOUR OWN PERSONAL PAGE, IT'LL COME UP AS THE HUBER HEIGHTS, WE GOT TO THINK OF IT LIKE A NACRONYM EIGHT, THE HHC D A C UM, GROUP, YOU KNOW? SO THAT WAY IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S COMING OFFICIALLY FROM THE COMMISSION AND NOT, UM, OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE MADE YOU EDITORS.
SO THAT WAY YOU CAN POST AS THE PAGE, WHEN YOU POST YOUR, BOUT YOUR, ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT WE'RE DOING OR, OR EDUCATIONAL PIECE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, RHONDA HAS HER HAND UP AND THEN FRED WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I'LL REACH OUT TO MLK DAYTON TO SEE IF THEY'RE HAVING A PROGRAM OR YOU KNOW, WHAT DATE THEY'VE DONE ON THE CALENDAR.
CAUSE I LOOKED AND AS OF NOW I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
SO, OH, THAT'S PROBABLY RIGHT.
UM, THE FIRST, MY FIRST QUESTION IS FOR MS. RHONDA, IS THAT, UM, WHO IS IT? UH, ANTHONY.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE STILL IS, BUT I KNOW HE USED TO HAVE SOME INVOLVEMENT WITH IT, BUT I I'LL FIND OUT FOR YOU.
DID HE MOVE OUT? HUBER HEIGHTS? I THOUGHT HE LEFT THE AREA.
AND MY SECOND QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS THIS, UH, THIS, UM, FACEBOOK SITE CALLED? IT'S THE COMMISSION NAME? THE CONDITION, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE REALLY USING, UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING ON FACEBOOK, LIKE WHEN YOU USE THE AT SIGN IT'S AT H H C D C A C.
BUT IF YOU PUT IT THE FORMAL LONG NAME IS HUBER HEIGHTS, A CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION.
I THINK WE'RE GETTING SLAP HAPPY.
Y'ALL THAT'S CAUSE I'M STILL IN MY OFFICE.
SO ACCEPT YOUR PENDING INVITATIONS TO THE PAGE AND I'M FINE.
YOU KNOW, THE CHAIRS CAN MAKE SURE YOU POST YOUR EVENTS ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE AND JUST ALERT ME TO THAT AND I'LL MAKE, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT SARAH'S IN THE LOOP SO THEY CAN POST IT TO THE CITY PAGE AS WELL.
UM, OTHER I HAD UNDER OTHER, I DID NOT HAVE THIS UNDER NEW BUSINESS, BUT, UM, MR. SCHOMER, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A, UH, YOU MENTIONED IN THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT THERE'S A CHIEF ACQUIRE POSITION OPENING.
UM, AND SINCE ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I KNOW THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT AS A COMMISSION IS ENSURING THAT WE HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND ACCESS TO POSITIONS WITHIN THE CITY, UM, AND MAKING THAT INCLUSIVE AND OPEN TO MINORITIES AS WELL.
SO CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN THE HIRING PROCESS? YEAH, ACTUALLY THE, UH, THE SELECTION, UH, IN APPOINTMENT OF PERSONNEL IS, UH, UH, IS AN EXECUTIVE, UM, PRIVILEGED DISCUSSION.
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WE GENERALLY DON'T DISCUSS THAT IN PUBLIC FORUM.SO WHAT IS THAT POSITION? IS IT AN OPEN POSITION THAT'S POSTED? UH, NO, IT IS NOT.
THE FIRE CHIEF HAS NOT RETIRED AS OF YET.
HOWEVER, WE ARE, UH, UNDERGOING AN, A, AN INTERNAL REVIEW IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR, UH, OUR CURRENT POLICIES.
UM, ACTUALLY, UH, MRS. HUMBLE IS, UH, IS WORKING WITH ME ON THAT.
AND, UH, WE HAVE COLLABORATED ON WHAT OUR INITIAL AND I GUESS PROGRESSIVE STEPS WILL BE IN GETTING THERE.
HOW CAN THE COMMISSION ASSIST IN ENSURING THAT WE HAVE, UM, MADE THAT OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO MINORITIES? UH, WELL AT THIS, UH, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, UM, IT'S A PROCESS THAT IS, UH, UM, BEGUN INTERNALLY AND, UH, THERE'S REALLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UM, NO ADDITIONAL RURAL ASSISTANCE NEEDED.
SO IS IT OKAY, SO IT DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S AN INTERNAL HIRE OR IT'S NOT OPEN TO MINORITY APPLICANTS? UH, THE CITY HAS A, HAS A POLICY FOR, UM, INTERNAL PROMOTIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THAT PROCESS, UH, IN ACCORDANCE TO THAT FIRST.
SO IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT OPEN.
UH, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT WE WILL FIRST REVIEW AND SCREEN OUR, UH, OUR INTERNAL CANDIDATES AND, UH, SEE WHERE THAT LEADS US FROM THERE.
SO WHAT YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE INTERNAL PROMOTION POLICY, AND I THINK I'VE READ THAT BEFORE.
UM, SO, AND I THINK THIS IS THE POLICY SAYS IT'S HOSTED INTERNALLY FOR SEVEN DAYS, IS THAT CORRECT? NO PROCESS OF THIS NATURE.
UM, THERE THERE'S, THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF PROMOTIONS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.
UH, THE LEVEL OF DIVISION, UM, HAD, WHICH IS, UM, A DIVISION WITHIN A DEPARTMENT IS, UH, IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROMOTION THAN LET'S SAY.
UM, WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE SEEN AS A FOREMAN OR A, A LINE MANAGER, ET CETERA, THERE'S DIFFERENT PROCESSES FOR THAT IN DIFFERENT POSTING LEVELS? UH, PROMOTIONS FOR DEPARTMENT DIVISION HEADS ARE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, AND MORE AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL.
AND, UM, THE POLICY RELATES TO A PREFERENCE OF, UH, INTERNAL PROMOTIONS.
UH, OUR JOB, REGARDLESS OF ANY THING, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, FILL PROMOTED POSITIONS WITH THE, UH, WITH THE MOST QUALIFIED AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO FOLLOWS ANY OF THE EXISTING POLICIES THAT WE HAVE.
UH, WE FEEL ORGANIZATIONALLY THAT HAVING A PROMOTE FROM WITHIN PREFERENCE, UH, SHOWS GREAT ADVANTAGE FOR, UH, CONTINUITY AND CONTINUED GROWTH CAREER DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO RECRUITMENT OPPORTUNITIES EXTERNALLY, UH, FROM OUTSIDE, UH, FROM OUTSIDE CANDIDATES FOR OTHER POSITIONS.
SO, UM, AGAIN, AS I INDICATED, WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MANY DETAILS BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PROGRESS AND OR STEPS OF, UH, OF SELECTION OF PERSONNEL IS, UM, UH, IS, IS AN EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE AND NOT, UH, NOT GENERALLY PUBLICLY DISCUSSED, UH, BUT DISCUSSIONS ARE ON POLICIES.
THAT'S IN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, WE DID REVIEW, UH, CAMILLE NICELY AND, UH, WE HAVE BEGAN SOME STEPS TO, UH, UM, TO INVOKE, UH, THE BEGINNINGS OF A PROCESS WITH THAT.
SO THE HIGHER, THE PROMOTE WITHIN POLICY, AS WE TALK ABOUT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES AND OPEN ACCESS TO MINORITY APPLICANTS, THE PROMOTE WITHIN POLICY, UM, SINCE I, AND, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY AFRICAN AMERICAN, UM, FIRE WE HAVE FIREMEN OR THE BATTALION CHIEFS OR ANYTHING, BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS IF WE, IF WE LIMIT IT TO PROMOTE WITHIN, THEN WE DO NOT INCREASE OUR POOL OF DIVERSITY WITHIN OUR CITY.
THAT'S ONE, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE ELEMENT OF, UH, OF THE DESIRE TO HAVE A DEBT WORKFORCE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT, UH, REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY.
UM, ONE OF THE, UH, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND OBJECTIVES.
THIS IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT VERY GOOD AND QUALITY RECRUITMENT PLANS, UH, IDENTIFYING, BRINGING
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IN AT, UH, AT DIFFERENT LEVELS, INCLUDING ENTRY LEVEL, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE FIRE SERVICE.UH, IT IS A DIFFICULT FIELD TO HAVE A DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT IN, UH, ATTEMPTS ARE FIERCE.
UH, BUT CANDIDATE POOLS TEND TO ALIGN WITH VERY MINIMAL, UH, DIVERSE DEMOGRAPHICS.
THAT'S FOR CERTAIN, UH, POLICE DIVISION.
WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE SUCCESS IN, UH, HERE AS OF RECENT, AND WE CONTINUE OUR, UH, OUR ASPECTS AND ELEMENTS.
AND AS WE DIVERSIFY THE WORKFORCE FROM WITHIN THEN THAT INCREASES, UH, THE PROMOTABLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE TYPE OF THINGS.
WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE VALUE THOSE THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO DEDICATE MANY YEARS OF SERVICE, UH, WITH UPPER MOBILITY COMMITMENT, UH, VERY COMMITTED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT THAT POLICY IS HONORED IN PREFERENCE TO MAKING SURE THAT IF THEY'RE QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB, THEN THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE DEDICATED, UH, AND PROVIDED THEIR SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR.
UH, AND THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT REGARDLESS OF GENDER RACE CULTURE, THE NEXT FIREFIGHTER THAT WE HIRE COULD BE THE NEXT FIRE CHIEF.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY WALK IN THE DOOR, THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE FOR THEM TO GROW INTO THAT POSITION.
SO IF WE EMPLOY A DEPARTMENT FULL OF FUTURE FIRE CHIEFS, THEN THAT LIFTS THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION UP AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE MAKE SURE WE GIVE A STRONG FOCUS ON DIVERSIFYING ALL LEVELS OF THE, UH, OF THE WORKFORCE.
AND, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE WORKING IN UNTIL WE CONTINUE MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT.
WELL AT STE A COUPLE OF HANDS, SO I SAW GENE'S HAND FIRST, AND THEN I SAW RHONDA SO WELL, ACTUALLY, RHONDA, HER HAND WAS FIRST.
THAT'LL BE FOR ME, I WILL KNOW.
AND I WILL KNOW IF THERE'S QUESTIONS.
I WILL NOTE IF THESE QUESTIONS ARE FOR ME, UH, I NEEDED TO BE GONE FIVE MINUTES AGO.
UM, SO, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD APPRECIATE, UM, UH, ANYTHING BRIEF, OH, ROB, YOU KNOW, RHONDA WE'VE HAD TALKS.
MA'AM ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WHEN I LOOK AT THE POLICY, UM, THE PERSONNEL POLICIES SPECIFICALLY SECTION 3.2.
IT DOES SAY THAT THE POSTING WILL BE MADE AT ALL DIVISION OR DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS AND PROMINENT AREAS, ALLOWING ALL CURRENT EMPLOYEES, THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE APPLICATION, THE NOTICE WILL BE POSTED FOR SEVEN DAYS AND WILL CONTAIN INFORMATION PERTINENT TO THE POSITION.
PREFERENCE WILL BE GIVEN TO EXISTING EMPLOYEES, CONSISTENT WITH A PROMOTE FROM WITHIN POLICY WHENEVER POSSIBLE PRUDENT AND ALL OTHER FACTORS BEING EQUAL SUCH PREFERENCE WILL ALSO BE GIVEN TO HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENTS IN THE RENDERING OF HIRING AND PROMOTION DECISIONS.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS IT CONSISTENT THAT WHEN A, WHEN A VACANCY IS ANNOUNCED THAT ISN'T AN, IT IS INTERNALLY POSTED FOR SEVEN DAYS, AND I WOULDN'T LIKE TO JUST SEE SOME OBJECTIFICATION TO THAT PROMOTE FROM WITHIN POLICY WHENEVER POSSIBLE PRUDENT AND ALL OTHER FACTORS BEING EQUAL, BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL THAT'S A QUANTIFIABLE PROCESS.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD QUANTIFY THAT.
AND I, AND I THINK THOSE TYPE OF IDEAS ARE GOOD FOR LOOKING AT MODIFICATIONS IN THE FUTURE TO ANY OF THOSE POLICIES, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR NOW THE POLICY IS WHAT IT IS.
UH, NOT ALL EMPLOYEES ARE QUALIFIED TO BE FIRE CHIEF THERE'S, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S VERY FEW.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN ORGANIZATION, THERE ARE, WE'LL CALL THEM REQUISITES AND, UM, STEPS TO TAKE REGARDING, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, UM, HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT APPLY AND BE QUALIFIED TO BE FIRE CHIEF.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REQUISITE TO THAT OBVIOUSLY, AND THAT COMES THROUGH A VARIETY OF STEPS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A CHAIN OF COMMAND IN ADVANCEMENT, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM WITHIN AND WITHIN THE RANKS OF THE FIRE DIVISION ITSELF.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT, UM, THERE WOULD BE LIMITED CANDIDATES AVAILABLE IN THE CITY TO POST IT THROUGHOUT.
IT WAS POSTED AND MADE, NOTICED TO THOSE THAT WOULD BE QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION.
UM, AND THAT IS VERY CONSISTENTLY DONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THERE'S ALSO DIFFERENT PROVISIONS FOR PROMOTIONS AND FOR NOTICES THAT ARE SPELLED OUT IN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS,
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UM, OUTSIDE OF NON-BARGAINING POSITIONS, SUCH AS THIS, AND ALSO THIS BEING AN EXEMPT POSITION AND BASICALLY A, UM, A, A T OF A DIVISION HEAD, UM, THEN THERE'S, UM, UH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCES IN THAT AS WELL.SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT ANY MODIFICATIONS OR CHANGES TO THAT POLICY, OBVIOUSLY AS A PROCESS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN UNDERTAKEN AS WE GROW AND DEVELOP THINGS, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THIS COMMISSION.
UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS WE, UH, DO THAT ANNUAL REVIEW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AND MAKE CHANGES SOME OF THOSE PR MERIT AND PERSONNEL THINGS, UH, THAT ARE ULTIMATELY PASSED THROUGH AND ADOPTED AS POLICIES BY COUNCIL.
MY FINAL QUESTION, MY FINAL QUESTION, UM, WHICH IS HARD FOR ME, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, MY FINAL QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS PROCESS THAT'S PROMOTE FROM WITHIN POLICY? HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS A PROCESS MUCH LIKE WITH COUNCIL, WHERE RESIDENTS HAVE SOME SAY IN THE HIRING AND PROMOTION DECISIONS THAT ULTIMATELY ARE GOING TO AFFECT AFFECT THEM? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF PROCESS WHEREBY RESIDENTS, UM, AS SOME INPUT ON WHO'S GOING TO BE HIRED FOR FIRE CHIEF FOR WHO'S GOING TO BE PROMOTED FROM WITHIN, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS, UM, IT CAN'T BE ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT SOMEBODY IN A POSITION AND NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT.
WELL, I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE IDEAS ARE SOMETHING THAT, UH, I THINK IS PART OF A LARGER DISCUSSION AND PART OF SOMETHING THAT IN MY BATTERY JUST GAVE ME A NOTICE HERE.
SO IF IT GOES BLANK, UM, IT ISN'T MAY HANGING UP.
UM, I'LL SWITCH TO MY PHONE IF IT DOES DO THAT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT, UH, AS WE MOVE THROUGH ON DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES OF, OF THIS COMMISSION, THEN WE ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND, AND LOOK AT IT AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR, THE PROCESS THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UNDER CURRENT POLICY, IT'S IN MOTION.
AND AGAIN, UH, I'M NOT GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE CULTURE OF THIS ORGANIZATION AT THIS POINT.
ONCE WE HAVE ENGAGED SOMETHING BY GIVING ANY INDICATION THAT ANY CURRENT CANDIDATE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED IS NOT QUALIFIED AT THE LEVEL THAT THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE CURRENT PROCESS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO ADDITIONAL THINGS, UH, AS TO HOW, UH, EXTERNAL INPUT CAN BE INCLUDED IN POSITIONS LIKE THIS, I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD, UM, THAT INVOLVES, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE DISCUSSION AND INFORMATION, UH, AND, UH, AND IDEAS BACK AND FORTH, BUT ULTIMATELY DECIDED, UM, AND, AND IMPLEMENTED BY COUNSELING.
SO, WOW, THERE'S JUST THE THERAPY AND THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR I MINORITY APPLICANT EXTERNAL TO THE CITY, REGARDLESS OF THEIR QUALIFICATIONS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS POSITION.
NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO VET AND REVIEW INTERNAL CANDIDATES AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND IF THERE'S A NEED TO LOOK EXTERNAL WILL, THEN WE WILL, AT THAT POINT IN TIME LOOK EXTERNAL, BUT I THINK THERE'S, UM, AND, AND I'LL BE A LITTLE BIT BLUNT IN THE SENSE THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS MADE BETWEEN, UM, I'VE EVEN HEARD FROM EVEN SOME, SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVEN BEEN CONTACTED BY EXTERNAL SOURCES.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE FACTS AT HAND ARE THERE AND THE IMPETUS AND THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE HIGHEST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE THAT BEST SERVES THE MISSION OF THE, UH, OF THE FIRE DIVISION AND THE ORGANIZATION.
I HAVE FULL FAITH AND CONFIDENCE IN THE STAFF THAT WE DEVELOP, AND THIS DECISION IS RELIED UPON BY, UM, YOU KNOW, BY ME AND BY EXISTING POLICY.
SO, UH, TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO LEAVE WITH THAT IMPRESSION OR WHAT I APPRECIATE ANYBODY TAKING THAT POSITION OR HAVING THAT IMPRESSION.
UH, BUT I WILL SAY THAT HOPEFULLY IN, IN, IN RETROSPECT, WE CAN UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE VALUE OF THE CURRENT, UM, POLICY, THE CURRENT EFFORTS OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES TO NOT DISCOUNT THAT, UH, AND AS WELL ALSO NOT DISCOUNTING THE FACT THAT AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE CONTINUE TO TAKE STEPS TO ADVANCE
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AND, UH, REFORM THINGS THAT VERY WELL MAY NEED TO BE REFORMED AND INCLUDE DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND IDEAS.UM, BUT WE CAN'T DO EVERY SINGLE THING ALL AT ONCE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, BEGUN AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT FOR THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS IS NOT FAIR TO ANYBODY THAT HAVE BEEN NOTICED FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO RETRACT THAT PROCESS AND NOTICE FOR OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT DOING THE INTEGRITY OF THE ORGANIZATION.
UM, G ERIC, DID YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND UP? OKAY.
UM, BOB, MY QUESTION IS VERY BRIEF.
UM, HOW LONG HAS THIS POLICY YOU'VE BEEN IN PLACE FOR THE CITY AND HAS THERE NEVER BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO REVISE IT, TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES BASED ON EQUAL OPPORTUNITY STANDARDS TO BE CONSIDERED? UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR SURE.
AGAIN, THAT AREA OF THE POLICY IS INDICATED EARLIER.
IT CERTAINLY NEEDS LOOKED AT AND, AND MADE SURE THAT, UM, UM, THAT ALL IDEAS ARE RELEVANT AND CURRENT.
UM, WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PAST FROM GROWING AND DEVELOPING AND HARVESTING POTENTIAL UPPER AND EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP FROM WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION.
AND THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK, ELEMENT OF GROWTH OF AN ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP.
MY BATTERY DID DIE ON ME AND MY BACK ON HERE.
I SWITCHED TO MY PHONE, UH, ANYWAYS, UH, JUST, JUST FINISH MY THOUGHT THAT, UM, UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD OPPORTUNITIES, UM, IN THE PAST, UH, WE HAVE SOUGHT EXTERNAL APPLICANTS, UM, AND WE HAVE HAD PROCESSES, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME OR ONE OF FEW TIMES THAT I CAN THINK OF IN RECENT HISTORY, UH, THAT THE POTENTIAL CANDIDATE POOL FROM, UH, FROM WITHIN WITH INSIDE THE FIRE DIVISION, UH, ARE VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND PROFESSIONAL, UM, CANDIDATES THAT HAVE SERVED THE COMMUNITY VERY WELL.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S DEMONSTRATED BY A LACK OF, UH, COMPLAINTS, ISSUES, UM, OR PROBLEMS, UH, IN THE HIGH ACCOLADES AND THE HIGH MARKS THAT OUR FIRE SERVICE GETS, UH, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND, UH, WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH OF IMPROVEMENT AND, UH, AND RECOGNIZING, KNOWING ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES OF THE NEXT FIRE CHIEF IS, UH, AN AGGRESSIVE RECRUITMENT POLICY THAT, UM, THAT ADDRESSES AND HELPS GET THROUGH SOME OF THE OBSTACLES OF FINDING A DIVERSE POOL OF APPLICANTS TO BRING IN THE FIRE DIVISION.
SO, AS IN, AS YOU SEE, EVERYTHING HAS A CASCADING EFFECT WHERE ONE POSITION IS FILLED AND OTHERS VACATED, WHICH OPENS ANOTHER POSITION, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO OPPORTUNITIES AREN'T IN, SHOULDN'T BE LOOKED AT IN JUST ONE POSITION OPPORTUNITIES SHOULD BE LOOKED AT IS THIS MIGHT HAVE ONE POSITION, ONE CHANGE, BUT IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT SYSTEMATIC POLICIES AND CHANGES THAT REALLY MAKE CONCRETE LONGTERM CHANGES, THEN WE PERHAPS ARE JUST NOT FILLING THAT GAP WITH CONCRETE.
WE'RE FILLING IT WITH QUICKSAND.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT ORGANIZATIONALLY DEVELOPING, REFORMING, AND IMPROVING THE PERFORMANCE SO THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT BRINGING IN THE NEXT FIRE CHIEF, WHO HOPEFULLY COMES IN AS A BRAND NEW, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSON, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO SEE A DIVERSIFIED POOL OF CANDIDATES WITHIN OUR OWN ORGANIZATION.
THAT IS THE ULTIMATE REFLECTION OF HAVING A WORKFORCE THAT REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, WE WILL WORK STEADFAST AND, UH, IN DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AND TURN OVER EVERY STONE THAT WE CAN TO, UH, TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO GET THERE.
I THINK THAT, THAT WE ARE ALL VERY
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MUCH APPRECIATE APPRECIATIVE OF THE STAFF OF THE, UM, THE FIREFIGHTERS AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SKILLS THAT THEY BRING.UM, DEFINITELY NOT DOWNPLAYING THOSE AT ALL.
UM, I JUST, WE JUST REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER APPLICANTS, FOR MINORITY APPLICANTS.
MY CONCERN WITH A PROMOTE WITHIN POLICY IS THAT IF WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY PROMOTING WITH BEN AND THAT WITHIN IS THE MAJORITY POPULATION, THEN WE NEVER HAVE ANY MINORITY REPRESENTATION.
WE'LL MAKE SURE TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY TOO, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T CONTINUOUSLY DONE.
SO THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, OUR CURRENT FIRE CHIEF WAS SOUGHT FROM THE OUTSIDE THE ONE BEFORE HIM WAS SOUGHT FROM THE OUTSIDE, ET CETERA.
SO, UH, ON MANY TIMES AND OCCASIONS, WE HAVE UPPER LEVEL POSITIONS THAT ARE SOUGHT FROM AND HIRED FROM THE OUTSIDE, AFTER OPENING UP FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR ANY QUALIFIED APPLICANT TO APPLY.
SO THIS ISN'T A CONTINUOUS THING.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, AS I INDICATED, A COUPLE MOMENTS AGO, THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CULTIVATED AND HARVESTED LEADERSHIP FROM WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AND IMPLEMENT THAT PREFERENCE POLICY.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT A CONTINUOUS THING.
AND IN FACT, I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY THE EXCEPTION TO THE MAJORITY OF THE TIMES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, UH, HAVE HELD PROCESSES.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT THAT PROMOTE WITHIN POLICY, UM, OUR ENTIRE, OUR ENTIRE, UH, RECRUITMENT HIRING AND SELECTION PROCESS? IS THIS SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT CITYWIDE AND THEN DRILL DOWN TO WHAT WE HAVE SPECIFIC KIND OF SUB-LEVELS OF TARGETED RECRUITMENT AND OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FROM WITHIN INDIVIDUAL DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS, BECAUSE THERE'S UNIQUE, SPECIAL AREAS OF RECRUITMENT, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, LET'S SAY IN HUMAN RESOURCES VERSUS LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, FINANCE, ET CETERA.
IT, IT CERTAINLY IS A PART OF THE CITY PERSONNEL MERIT RULES THAT, UH, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO REVIEW UPDATE AS I ALLUDED TO EARLIER.
UM, THAT IS, UM, UM, CERTAINLY ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES, UM, IN THAT PART OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT DOES, WOULD BE ON THAT SIDE, RHONDA OF THE COUNCIL APPROVED THINGS, NOT ADMINISTRATIVE.
SO THAT CERTAINLY WOULD INCLUDE INPUT FROM THIS COMMISSION INTO THOSE, UH, THOSE POLICYMAKERS AND ULTIMATELY ON THE HANDS OF, UM, OF THOSE POLICY MAKERS REPRESENTING ALL OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING INCLUSIVE AND NOT EXCLUSIVE IN ANY WAY.
RHONDA HAD ONE LAST THING NOW, HAVE YOU ON MUTE? ALL RIGHT.
SO ROB, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A COPY OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR FIRE FOR THE FIRE CHIEF POSITION? YEAH, NO, I, YEAH.
I HAD MY, UH, MY BUTTON PRESSED HERE.
I KNOW HR HAS ALL OF THOSE, UH, CAMILLE OR KATIE CAN, CAN EMAIL THAT OUT AND THAT'S A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DOCUMENT, SO THANK YOU.
UM, NO OTHER ITEMS FOR TONIGHT.
WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO TRY NOT TO HAVE TWO AND A HALF HOUR MEETINGS AS A NORM.
UM, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF BUSINESSES TAKE CARE OF TONIGHT AND WE DID A LOT, SO HATS OFF TO EVERYONE FOR THAT.
UM, ARE WE GOING TO SET A MEETING FOR NEXT MONTH OR BEFORE WE GO IS THE FIRST THURSDAY.
IT MUST BE WHEN I WAS HAVING NOT HAVING SOUND ISSUES.
SO THAT WOULD BE NOVEMBER THE FIFTH, NOVEMBER 5TH.
AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE OUR, UM, CAMILLE, WHEN, WHEN COULD WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THIS MEETING? WHEN WOULD THOSE BE AVAILABLE?
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I WILL GET WITH KATIE AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW.AND THEN AS WELL AS THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST SELFIE.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THEN NO RUSH.
WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AND WE, I WILL SEE EVERYONE THE FIRST THURSDAY AT 7:00 PM IN THE MEANTIME, GET TO YOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND LET ME KNOW WHEN THOSE ARE.
HAVE A GOOD DAY INJURED AT NINE 24.