Sep 22, 2020 Council Work Session

THE OFFICIAL NUMBER TO SAY IS OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

MR. SHAWN HERE, MS. BAKER, MR. CAMPBELL HERE.

MRS. MURPH, MR. HERE.

MR. LYONS HERE, MR. HILL, MR. RAY HERE.

AND NUMBER TWO SAYS IN GERMAN, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE THERE YET.

NEXT,

[2. Approval of Minutes:]

UH, SO I AM TO EIGHT IS A SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020 MINUTES.

UH, AS ALWAYS, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CORRECTIONS AND CHANGES.

MRS. BURCH HAS SUBMITTED SOME CHANGES THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO NOTED AS A CHANGE IN MEDS.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE GENES? WHAT'S YOUR GAMBLE? YES.

UH, ROGERS BEFORE HE CHANGES, WOULD OCCUR BASED ON NANCY'S REQUEST, COULD THE CLERK'S OFFICE REVIEW THE VIDEO AND VERIFY FOR ACCURACY? YES.

THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST THAT THE MINUTES, IF THEY ARE INFECTED OR CHANGE, DO STAND, AS THEY WERE STATED ON THE VIDEO, I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT THE AMERICAN, UH, AFTER READING THE MINUTES AND NANCY'S COMMENTS, ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL THERE, BUT ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, HOW MANY MINUTES ARE YOU THERE? YES, YES.

SO MR. CAMPBELL HAD ASKED THE CLERK, UH, MR. ROGERS, IF, UH, PRIOR TO ANY OFFICIAL CHANGE OF MEDS, IF MR. ROGERS WOULD REVIEW THE MINUTES AND THEN MAKE THEM REFLECT ACCURATELY, UH, WHAT WAS, UH, SPECIFIC IN THE, UH, THREE IN THE ACTUAL VIDEO, UH, AND THEN MR. SHAW, UH, AGREED IN SUPPORT OF THAT? UH, I BELIEVE MR. ALVEZ, SHE WAS, HE WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

AND I HAD ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR DISCUSSIONS, UH, BEFORE WE WOULD ASK THEM, SEE, TO REVIEW THAT VIDEO AND MAKE THE MINUTES SPECIFICALLY REFLECT WHAT WAS STATED AT THE MEETING WHAT'S ON THE VIDEO.

SO MR. ROGERS BREEZE DOWN AND HAD THE, UH, MATCH UP WITH TODAY, THE CHANGE MR. I THINK MR. ROGERS WOULD, WOULD, UH, WOULD DISTRIBUTE ANY, ANY CORRECTIONS OR ANY OF THE MINUTES.

SEE, NORMALLY I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THE, THE WORK SESSION MINUTES ARE NOT A WORD FOR WORD VERBATIM DOCUMENT OF THE WORK SESSION.

IT'S A SUMMATION, UNLIKE THE COUNCIL MEETING, WHEN WE HAVE OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, THOSE, UH, THOSE MINUTES ARE PRETTY MUCH INNOVATED WORD FOR WORD.

UH, SO I THINK, I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO IN THIS CASE, SINCE THERE'S ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION OF THE MEZCAL, IT COULD BE OKAY FOR MR. ROGERS TO REVIEW THE VIDEO AND THEN MAKE THE WORK SESSION MINUTES KIND OF REFLECTIVE TO WHAT OUR COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES ARE, UH, MORE OF A WORD FOR WORD VERBATIM OF WHAT THE VIDEO ACTIONS NEEDS RATHER THAN A SUMMATION.

WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? MR. ROGERS FOR IT? MAKES SENSE? YES .

THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE TWO DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS.

SO I WOULD ASK THEN WHAT HAPPENED? WELL, I, WELL, I THINK IT, I'M NOT SURE, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET THE TONE I'M TRYING TO AVOID, RATHER THAN INTERPRETATION.

I WANT TO EVADE, I WANT THE MINUTES TO REFLECT WHAT THE ACTUAL VIDEO STATES, SO I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE AS, SO RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE

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WHAT MR. CAMPBELL IS RECOMMENDED IS THAT MR. ROGERS WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN AND MAKE THEM AS REFLECT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY STATED ON THE VIDEO.

SO THIS PROCESS IS TRYING TO AVOID ANY, UH, A NON CLARIFICATION OF WHAT THE MINUTES SHOULD REFLECT.

I GUESS, I THINK THIS INSTANCE, SINCE THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MINUTES IN THIS INSTANCE, LIVE MINUTES AND REFLECT WHAT WAS STATED ON THE VIDEO.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO, UH, MR. CAMPBELL'S RECOMMENDATION? OKAY.

SAYING THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO, MR. ROGERS, IF YOU COULD REVIEW THE VIDEO AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE AND REDISTRIBUTE THOSE FOR APPROVAL OF THE NEXT WORK SESSION, I APPRECIATE THAT.

NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS OUR WORK SESSION, TOPICS OF DISCUSSION.

[ City Manager Report]

AND THREE IS A CITY MANAGER REPORT.

MR. SCHIRMER.

YEAH, SPEEDING.

I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR THE SEAT.

UH, STARTING OFF WITH OUR MASK ARMS PROJECT ON A TWO, ONE IN CHAMBERSBURG, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF DELAYS WE GOT NOTICE, BUT YET A, ANOTHER DELAY, UH, THAT WOULD OCCUR, UH, OUR ENGINEERING STAFF, MR. KOSKI.

AND, UH, AND I CALLED A MEETING OF THE CONTRACTOR AND SOME OTHERS.

THIS WAS YESTERDAY.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD THAT.

UM, AND WE, UH, WE SKATED SOME CONCERNS AND, UH, GOOD NEWS.

SUDDENLY TODAY WE HAVE A EMAIL THAT STATES THAT, UH, THEY WILL BE FINISHING UP NEXT TUESDAY.

THE POLLS WILL BE DELIVERED BY THE 30TH AND THEN THE INSTALLATION WILL COMMENCE SHORTLY THEREAFTER.

SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY FURTHER DELAY AT THIS TIME, UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT THAT PROJECT WILL BE FINISHED UP PRIOR TO THE END OF THE ASPHALT SEASON FOUR FOR THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T GET IT DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO WE WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO WE THINK PROBABLY WHAT, SO SOMETIME THE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS AND WALKED OVER, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, I WOULDN'T SAY COMPLETE CAUSE THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT PAVING AND CONCRETE WORK YET TO DO, BUT WE WERE WAITING ON THAT THE MASS HOMES TO BE DELIVERED IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

UH, AND THEY CAN'T, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS YEAH, YOU HAVE TO SET UP AND INSTALL A WHOLE SEPARATE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM WHILE THE CURRENT ONE IS STILL OPERATIONAL AND THEN TAKE THE CURRENT ONE DOWN ONCE THE NEW ONE IS UP AND OPERATIONAL.

SO IT'S A BIT OF A BIT OF A LOGISTICS THING, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE TIME TO GET IT DONE TO THE CONTRACTOR INDICATES THAT, UH, THERE'S TIME TO GET IT DONE UNDER THIS TIMELINE.

PRODUCE ABOUT 2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY WHEN WE NEED, I THINK IT'S FOUR OR FIVE, UM, UH, MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

UH, THE NEXT THING IS, IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE REGARDING OUR, UH, OUR NEED MORE ROAD, WATER PLANT.

UM, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE WE HAVE, UH, BEEN IN FACEBOOK, SOME SIGNIFICANT REPAIR SUDDENLY.

UH, THE CHLORINATOR IS, UH, OUT OF, UH, OUT OF SERVICE.

UH, IT HAS, UM, IT HAS GONE INTO DISREPAIR.

UM, THERE ARE, UM, THE HIGH SURFACE MOTORS, TWO AND THREE, UH, WHICH WERE ORIGINAL TO 1956 TO THE PLANT ARE OUT OF SERVICE.

THERE'S ONLY ONE MOTOR THAT IS CURRENTLY, UH, WORKING CONTROL VALVES FOR THE HIGH SURFACE MOTORS, TWO AND THREE ARE BOTH OUT.

UH, THE HYDRAULIC SYSTEM, ALL THE ACTUATORS ARE CURRENTLY LEAKING FLUID.

UH, THERE'S 24 OF THEM IN TOTAL, UH, ALL VALVES AND PIPING THAT ARE ORIGINAL HIGH SERVICE, UH, PUMP ROOM AND FILTERS, UM, ALL FROM A 1956.

AND THEN THESE WILL REINSTALL THE 1972, UM, UH, ALL OUR OPERATING MAYBE PSI.

HOWEVER, IT TAKES 135 PSI IN ORDER TO WHAT POSITION THOSE VALVES AND THE WIRING AND THE PLANE NEEDS SOME WORK.

UM, ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY BETWEEN 175 TO $200,000 IN REPAIRS THAT MAY NOT BE THE SIGNIFICANT ITEMS. SIGNIFICANT ITEM IS, IS THAT WE'RE ABOUT 16 WEEKS OUT BEFORE SOME OF THESE REPAIRS CAN BE COMPLETED.

UH, IN THAT CASE, UH, WE CANNOT OPERATE THE PLANT.

IT WILL NOT PASS IN P A GUIDELINES SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THAT COORDINATOR.

AND ALSO BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO, UH, TO CONTROL, UH, POTENTIAL LEAKS FROM THOSE HYDRAULIC LAB, HYDRAULIC VALVES, ET CETERA.

SO WE'RE KIND OF AT A CROSSROADS IN TERMS OF A DECISION AS TO WHETHER WE INVEST IN REPAIRING THAT TO HAVE A POTENTIAL BACK UP IN ABOUT 16 WEEKS UNTIL WE GET OUR INTERCONNECT WITH THE CITY OF DATA, UH, THAT IS SLATED TO GO OUT TO BID HERE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF FEW WEEKS.

UM, AND THAT WILL BE PROBABLY ABOUT AN EIGHT TO NINE MONTH BUILD OUT PROJECT FROM THERE.

SO WE'VE GOT AN OVERLAP OF TIME WHERE, UM, REGARDLESS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO CONTINGENCY YOUR BACKUP.

AND IF THE PLANT WAS CURRENTLY OPERATIONAL, UH, WE ONLY HAVE PARTIAL.

IT CAN ONLY

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SO IT REALLY STILL ISN'T A COMPLETE BACKUP RESOURCE.

UM, IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT SINCE WE ARE INTENDING TO, UM, TO CLOSE THAT PLANT DOWN AND COMPLETELY, UH, AT THE END OF OUR INTERCONNECT PROJECT AS WAS DISCUSSED IN AND DECIDE, UM, THAT WE, WE JUST DON'T DO THOSE REPAIRS.

UH, THE, UM, THE RISK TO THAT ART IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BACKUP, BUT AGAIN, OUR BACKUP REALLY ISN'T A COMPLETE BACKUP.

WE HAVE AT LEAST A DAY SUPPLY OF WATER AND OUR WATER TOWERS, MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES AND WATER SYSTEMS DON'T HAVE SECONDARY WELL FIELDS OR WATER PLANTS TO PRODUCE WATER.

IF THEY'RE DOWN, THEY'RE DOWN.

UM, IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, ONE HALF OF ONE DAY, UH, WAS THE ONLY TIME THAT THAT PLANT WAS NEEDED.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY THAT BETWEEN THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS, THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE A NEED BARRING A NATURAL DISASTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, THE CURRENT PLANT IS PRODUCING WELL.

WE HAVE NEW GENERATOR, POWER, UH, ET CETERA, AND SHY OF A PROBLEM WITH A SERIES OF WELLS THAT OUR CURRENT PLANT, UH, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM PRODUCING WATER, BARRING SOME UNUSUAL OCCURRENCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS. THEN I SLOW DOWN THE WATER.

SO, UM, IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE, WITH THESE REPAIRS.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT WE CERTAINLY DO NEED TO, UH, PRESENT THE POSSIBILITIES, THE POTENTIAL RISKS AND WHAT THOSE RISKS TRULY ARE.

UH, THE FINANCIAL RISK, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS, IS THAT'S A MARTIN WALL REPAIR.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT SURE THAT THE EPA WOULD AUTHORIZE THE OPERATION OF THE PLANT.

AGAIN, EVEN AFTER SOME OF THOSE REPAIRS DUE TO SOME OTHER SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THE CHLORINATORS, NOT PART OF THE COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS COORDINATOR IS PART OF THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND THAT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO EVEN OPERATE THE PLANT THAT IS EPA WILL NOT ALLOW US TO PUMP WATER INTO THE SYSTEM WITHOUT THAT OPERATIONAL.

AND WE ARE AT LEAST 12 WEEKS LEAD TIME FOR REPLACEMENT OF THAT.

THE PUMPS ARE ABOUT $25,000 PLUS ABOUT ADDITIONAL $50,000, UH, LABOR AND PUMP BASIS TO INSTALL, UM, THAT, UM, AGAIN, THESE WERE ORIGINAL 1956.

THEY DON'T MAKE IT ANY MORE THAN THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO REDESIGN THE PUMP HOUSING AND THE FOUNDATIONS AND THE CONCRETE STUFF THAT THE MOUNT, THOSE THERE ARE LARGE PUMPS, HIGH VOLUME PUMPS.

UM, AND THOSE ARE THOSE SORTS OF MEANTIME OUT.

UH, ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IS, UM, IS AGAIN THE, UM, THE ACTUATORS THAT ARE I'M ABOUT 60 YEARS OLD.

THEY ARE MINIMUM, UM, 16 WEEK LEAD TIME, UH, FOR, UH, FOR THOSE, UH, FOR THOSE VALVES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OBSOLETE AND CAN'T BE REPAIRED, THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED.

SO UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD A SERIES OF FAILURES.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY SAYING WE KNEW THIS WAS OCCURRING.

UH, AND WE KNEW THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE A COMPLETE RETROFIT AND REBUILD OF THE PLAN IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE OPERATIONAL.

AND WE ARE AT THAT POINT.

SO IF WE WANT IT TO BE OPERATIONAL OR MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO SEE MUCH MORE THAN THAT 200,000, THAT 200,000 WAS JUST TO REPAIR THE THINGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO BRING IT TO EPA STANDARDS.

SO WHAT, SO HE'S A FOUR OR FIVE MONTH LEAD TIME OF REPAIR.

AND WHAT IS IT NINE MONTHS OF YOUR TIME AFTER THE BID FOR THE INTERNET? SO, SO WHAT'S OUR REAL RISK.

IT'S ONLY ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.

UH, WELL CURRENTLY OUR REAL RISK WOULD BE ABOUT A NINE MONTH PERIOD WITHOUT A POTENTIAL BACKUP, IF WE NEEDED AS A SECONDARY SOURCE OF WHAT AS DIFFERENT.

BUT IF WE SPENT THAT MONEY, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

WE'RE STILL OUT MINIMUM FOUR MONTHS BEFORE WE CAN BE BACK UP AND OPERATION, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE PLAN IS NOT OPERATIONAL.

WE CANNOT OPERATE IT.

SO ONCE THE INTERCONNECTS, THE CLIENTS PRETTY MUCH DEFUNCT FOR OUR PURPOSES ANYWAY.

SO WE WOULD BE BASICALLY THROWING MONEY TO KEEP THIS UP FOR AS MERIT, JUST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS OF ACTUAL GAP, MAYBE SHIT NIM OFF ON IT.

ANYWAY, THAT'S GREAT.

AND AS I SAID, THERE'S REALLY NO GUARANTEE THAT WE'LL BE CERTIFIED AFTER THE REPAIRS.

UM, BIG BASED ON THE TYPE OF, UH, COORDINATION AND SYSTEM THAT IT CURRENTLY

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HAS.

THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

WE WOULD HAVE TO RELY ON EPS TIMELINE TO GET THAT CERTIFIED IN BASED ON PREVIOUS PROJECTS, INCLUDING OUR WATER SOFTENING, IF THAT TIMELINE IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

SO THAT THE 16 WEEKS REALLY IS A MINIMUM.

SO IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY MORE AND MORE THAN LIKELY YOU MADE ALL RIGHT, MORE MONEY IN THE GAP WITH ACTUALLY THE LESSON BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA TIME.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND SCOTT, I KNOW YOU'RE TECHNICALLY INVOLVED IN THAT IS AS WELL AS FAR AS THE TECHNICAL.

SO IF I MISSPOKE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AFTER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, THERE'S JUST NOT SPEND MONEY AND TAKE THE RISK OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, LOOK, I MEAN, IT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MINIMAL RISK, IT'S A BIG RISK BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU, WHAT THE RESULT COULD BE.

I THINK THE ODDS, CERTAINLY THING OUR FAVOR FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE'VE ONLY BEEN DOWN FOR HALF A DAY AND WE HAVE ONLY IN GALLONS OF WATER, IT WAS REALLY EASY AND WE HAD THE LUXURY OF WHAT WE CALL BACK UP.

UM, BUT IN ALL ACTUALITY, MANY MUNICIPALITIES DON'T HAVE A SECONDARY WATER PLANT AND, OR AN AIR CONNECTOR BACKUP.

SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH DAVID TO DO THAT.

SO IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE IT, BUT IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT EVEN WOULD BE REQUIRED OF US.

UH IT'S IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A POLICY DECISION TO HAVE THAT, UH, SHOULD SOMETHING OCCUR.

THE, EVEN, EVEN WITH THE INTERCONNECT AND THAT PLANT, IT WOULDN'T BE A COMPLETE BACKUP WHERE WE COULD OPERATE FOR DAYS OR WEEKS.

UH, IT WOULD BE JUST TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, AS OUR, AS OUR TOWERS POTENTIALLY WOULD, UH, WOULD SUFFICE SUPPLY FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PERIOD OF DOWNTIME, A IDEA OF JUST WHAT, LIKE WHAT COULD GO WRONG AND WHAT TYPE OF LEAD TIME IT IS.

AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE WATER PIPES, RIGHT? IF YOU HAD A SIMULTANEOUS FAILURE OF, UH, MORE THAN TWO PUMPS AT THE WELL FIELD, UH, THAT WOULD CAUSE A REDUCTION IN THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE DEMAND, THE DAILY DEMAND, UH, THAT DAVID DEMAND WOULD BE DRAWN DOWN FROM THE TOWERS.

UM, IF YOU HAD A FAILURE OF ALL OF THE PUMPS, AND OBVIOUSLY ONCE YOUR TOWERS RANTING, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE NO WATER SUPPLY.

UH, SO WE TAKE SOMETHING OF THAT MAGNITUDE.

WE HAVE FULL GENERATOR POWER, UH, IF WE LOST ALL POWER TO THE WATER PLANT, AND AS LONG AS DIESEL FUELS AVAILABLE, WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE UP AND OPERATIONAL, UH, TO, TO PUMP THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT IT WOULD TAKE.

NOT SAYING IT'S NOT POSSIBLE CONSIDERING THE LAST TWO YEARS, WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH COMING IN TORNADO IS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO THIS AND THIS AREA, UH, BUT, UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD REQUIRE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SERIES OF EVENTS THAT, UH, WOULD AFFECT WHAT WOULD AFFECT IMPACT THE REGION, NOT JUST OUR COMMUNITY LIKELY, UM, YOU KNOW, AREN'T, OUR PUMPS ARE BLEACHING MAINTENANCED, UM, AND, UH, AND INSPECTED AND, UM, ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ONE COMES OFFLINE FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHERS CAN SUFFICE AND MAINTAIN.

UH, AND IT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN TWO OF THE PUMPS TO BE OFFLINE FOR US TO BE IMPACTED FOR THE SUPPLY.

AND OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE SEASONAL TO AUGUST SUPPLIES, A LOT DIFFERENT THAN DECEMBER.

SO WE'RE COMING INTO A TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE OUR SUPPLY DEMAND IS, UM, IS THIS REDUCING, SO THE TIMING OF THIS, IF THERE HAS TO BE A DECENT TIMING OF IT, THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME.

I THINK IN GENERAL IT WOULD BE NOT TO SPEND THAT MONEY AT SUCH A LOW LIKELIHOOD.

ALSO, WOULD IT BE SAFE TO ASSUME THAT, UH, AND WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS, THE SOFTENING SYSTEM AND ALL THAT, UH, THAT I KNOW WE REPLACED SOME FILTERS RECENTLY, WE WENT THROUGH THAT, UH, THAT WILL PROBABLY SIT IN PRETTY TOP NOTCH ON, ON HOW IT'S OPERATING RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

IN FACT, THE NEW, WELL THAT, UH, THAT WE ADDED TO THAT IS ACTUALLY THE BEST PRODUCING.

WELL, IT'S SUCCEEDED ON, BUT, UH, IT SUCCEEDED EXPECTATIONS AND, UH, THE PLANT IS RUNNING, UM, A LOT OF AUTOMATION, A LOT OF EFFICIENCY.

IN FACT, WE MET WITH SUEZ TODAY, UH, TO DISCUSS SOME THINGS.

AND I'M VERY PLEASED WITH, UH, WITH THE OPERATION OF THE PLANT, UH, RUSS SCOTT AND THE LIKE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT THEY'RE SEEING OUT OF THE OPERATION OF THE, OF THE WATER PLANT DOWN OVER AT GREG.

NICE MARY.

I MEAN, I LEAN TOWARDS NOT SPENDING THOSE FUNDS FOR A POTENTIAL TEMPORARY FIX.

OH, I THINK IF WE HAD, I WERE SETTING YOUR PHONE WITH A BUNCH OF RESIDENTS AND PULL THEM, I THINK, I THINK DO THAT,

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IT IS THAT WE WOULD NEED THAT SYSTEM.

BUT ONE OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS TO THIS IS, IS, UM, IS EPA.

UM, WE WILL BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE IN VIOLATION BY NOT HAVING, UH, THE, THE CHLORINATOR OPERATIONAL AND REPAIRED.

IF WE HAVEN'T DESIGNATED THE PLANT AS, AS, UH, NO LONGER OPERATIONAL, I'M NOT FOR SURE ON THAT.

WE'RE CURRENTLY CHECKING THAT'S ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE VERIFYING AND CHECKING, BUT THE POTENTIAL OF THAT WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AND STILL, UM, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN RELATIVELY SOON, THAT LIKELY WOULD, COULD THAT SAME VIOLATION, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MR. SHAW? THANK YOU, ROD, BACK IN, UH, IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR OR WHATEVER, WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS BOOSTER STATIONS, THEY INTERCONNECT THE WHOLE NINE YARDS AND WE EXTENDED OUR AGREEMENT WITH, UH, A THUMP.

WHY WASN'T THAT POTENTIAL PICKED UP THEN THE POTENTIAL CONCERN, WHY WASN'T THESE, THESE COSTS? AND I GUESS THE RISK ASSESSMENT PROVIDED THEN OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT COMPARED TO THE INTERCONNECT A YEAR LATER, UH, FRANKLY AT THAT TIME, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE PLANT WAS OPERATIONAL AND, UM, WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF, UH, SYSTEM FAILURES, UH, AND THE LAST ONE BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE BEEN OUT HIGH SURFACE PUMP FOR AWHILE.

UH, THE OTHERS FAILING AND THE COORDINATOR FAILING REALLY, IT WAS KIND OF THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK.

IT'S KIND OF BEEN HELD TOGETHER WITH BANDAIDS, WITH THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPECTATION THAT THE PLANT WOULD NOT BE IN SUSTAINED OPERATION BEYOND THE INTERCONNECT.

SO WE'RE TO THE POINT NOW THAT, UM, A COUPLE OF BANDINGS HERE AND THERE JUST AREN'T GOING TO DO IT.

IT MEANS YOU NEED SOME SIGNIFICANT SURGERY.

SO HE JUST, WASN'T WHY WASN'T PROJECTED IT'S BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE STATE THAT IT WAS IN NOW.

WELL, THE REASON I, THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS WE EXTENDED AN $85,000 CONTRACT WITH IT.

AND 17 MONTHS LATER, WE'RE SITTING HERE AND SAY THAT WE'VE GOT 1960 PARTS IN THERE THAT ARE DILAPIDATED.

WE'RE LOOKING AT $200,000, WAS A RISK OF A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, LINING UP CORRECTLY, THAT COULD BE CATASTROPHIC TO OUR CITY AND POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDING IF THERE WAS A FIRE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

UM, I HAD AN ISSUE WITH IT.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE IN THAT SITUATION BECAUSE OUR, WE, WE DON'T RELY ON THAT PLANT FOR OUR EVERYDAY CURRENTLY, UH, WATER NEEDS AND SERVICES.

UH, IF WE HAD A FIRE, IF WE HAD A CIGARETTE, CAN WE DRAIN ON THE SYSTEM? THAT'S WHAT THE WATER TOWERS FOR.

AND OUR CURRENT PLANTS ARE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND PRODUCING, UH, AND HAVING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY BEYOND WHAT ARE GETTING THE DEMAND ARE SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND THEIR FINDINGS WERE RELATIVELY ACCURATE IN THAT REPORT, NOTING SOME OF THE AGED EQUIPMENT AND THE COST THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BRING THAT PLAN UP TO SPEED.

IN FACT, IT WAS THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY THAT BROUGHT TO US THE DECISION.

WE'RE LITERALLY, WE HAVE THE DESIGN DONE, WE'VE GOT THE BID DOG, BIG DOCUMENTS IN PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT, AND IT WILL BE SLATED TO GO TO BID.

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD TO CLOSE THAT PLANT DOWN AND DO THE INTERCONNECT RATHER THAN INVESTING IN MAINTAINING THAT PLANT AND UTILIZING THAT AS IT'S A BACKUP RESOURCE.

I MEAN, DURING THAT CONVERSATION, UM, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MORGAN, AND, UH, AND I BELIEVE SO, UM, WAS MOVING FORWARD ON, YOU KNOW, THE ASSET THAT IT WAS.

AND I STILL HOLD TRUE TO THAT STATEMENT HERE TODAY.

UM, I REALLY HOPE AND PRAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE CAN MAKE IT THROUGH THE NEXT NINE MONTHS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE YEAR OF 20, 21 HAS BEEN HER 20, 20 HUSBAND.

UM, I HOPE 2021 BRINGS US A LOT BETTER LUCK, UM, AS A COUNTRY, NOT ONLY AS A COMMUNITY, UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE NO ISSUES.

UM, BUT WHEN YOU'RE STATING ALSO IS WE WERE LOOKING AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, NINE MONTHS TO A YEAR OUT FOR THE INTERCONNECT WITH DAVID CAN BE COMPLETED FOREVER.

YES, IT'S A, IT'S ABOUT COMPLETE WITH DESIGN.

OF COURSE, WE HAD TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, DATE AND TO GET ALL THAT DONE.

THERE'S MORE THAN, UH, THAN JUST THE INITIAL CONNECT, BECAUSE NOW WE WANTED TO RUN, YOU KNOW, TWO WAYS, UH, IN COLLABORATION WITH TAPE AND, UH, THAT DESIGN, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES SOME TIME AND IT IS, UH, IT IS DONE AND IT SHOULD BE HELD TO BID, UH, HERE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR THAT PARTICULAR DESIGN.

SO I DON'T TYPICALLY LIKE USE WORDS WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WHAT, IF ANYTHING, CAN WE DO TO PUT A RUSH ON THAT? UM, DO YOU SPEED THAT PROCESS WILL GENERATE IT COULD HAVE BEEN, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE THEY'LL GO TO THE CAMERA.

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UM, I BELIEVE THE NEXT WORK SESSION WE'LL SEE THAT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BE A SLAVE THAT FORBID IDENTIFY A CONTRACTOR AND GET THE PROJECT IN A WAY.

EXCELLENT.

I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO COUNCIL AT RISK.

UM, AND, UH, I WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW, UM, YEAH, TALK TO THEM UNDERSTAND, BUT , UM, YEAH.

, MORE ABOUT LEAVING HOME.

THE PLANT, THEN WE SUBMIT THAT TO THE EPA AND THEN ANYTHING THAT'S WRONG WITH IT IS SHOULD NOT EVEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY BIG, VALID OR CONSIDERED.

I MEAN, W W WE HAVEN'T ORDERED ANYTHING, BUT CHECKING WITH, UH, SOME OF THE VENDORS AND SUPPLIERS, UH, THERE IS ABOUT A 16 WEEK LEAD TIME ON SOME OF THE PARTS THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE POTENTIAL LEAD TIME IN IDENTIFYING, UH, THE LABOR, UH, AND RND AND SYLLABARY INSTALLATION TYPE OF MATERIALS NEEDED FOR SOME OF THOSE, UH, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS SUCH AS VALVES, SUCH AS MOTORS, ET CETERA.

SO WHEN I SAY MINIMUM, I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN 16 WEEKS.

SO WE WERE LOOKING AT , UH, YEAH, FOUR MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE LOOKING AT, UH, JANUARY ISH, UH, BEFORE YEAH, IT'S INSIDE, IT'S INSIDE A BUILDING.

SO, SO THEY COULD, I WOULD IMAGINE , WELL, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY BID IT OUT OR DESIGNED WHAT'S ACTUALLY NEEDED.

WE'VE JUST HAD OUR, UH, OUR OPERATIONS TECHNICIAN, UH, THROUGH SUEZ KIND OF IDENTIFY WHAT HE SEES NEEDS TO BE DONE.

UH, WHAT WOULD REALLY NEED TO BE DONE IS WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE, UH, AN EXPERT COME IN AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH AND EVALUATE, UM, ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT IS OBVIOUSLY IN NEED OF REPAIR.

CAUSE JUST TO ORDER A MOTOR AND STICK IT IN THAT MAY NOT SOLVE THE ISSUE.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, HAVE THAT.

SO, SO I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOT TO THAT STEP.

IF WE WANTED TO GET TO THAT STEP, WE NEED TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS.

AND NOW ABSOLUTELY.

AND, UH, UH, PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS THE FACT THAT IF WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION ON IT AND JUST LEAVE IT IN THE STATE, THAT IT IS EITHER DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REPAIRS OR DECOMMISSIONED THE PLAN WE COULD POTENTIALLY FACE, UH, EPA VIOLATIONS FOR, UH, FOR NOT HAVING A DECISION AS TO WHAT TO DO FOR THAT, UH, ONLINE WATER PLAN, VIRTUALLY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, MR. MAYOR, I LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION EITHER FROM OUR LEGAL COUNSEL OR FROM A ROB.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TODAY, I DON'T WANT TO PUT US IN A PICKLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OUR FULL RISK IS.

UH, IF WE DO RECEIVE OR POTENTIALLY RECEIVE EPA VIOLATION, UH, ONE THAT HAS RAMIFICATIONS FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND OR WHAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO EXPEDITED LEE, TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T OCCUR.

YEAH, WE'VE GOT A, UM, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THEM.

THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN POSED AND, UH, WE'VE GOT A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH, WITH EPA.

UH, SUEZ MANAGES OUR, UH, OUR PROCESS VERY WELL THERE.

I THINK SUEZ IS ONE OF THE PA'S FAVORITE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF HOW QUICKLY THEY ARE TO REPORT THINGS AND AT THE ACCURACY IN WHICH THE RECORDING, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR, UH, VERY CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AT FIRST BLUSH OF THE POTENTIAL WOULD BE A FINANCE.

UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE EPA IS ABOUT.

THEY FIND THEM FOR THINGS, UH, AND THEY PUT YOU UNDER, UM, I FORGET WHAT THE WORD, I DON'T WANT TO USE A CONSENT DECREE, BUT YEAH.

FINDINGS AND ORDERS.

UH, AND THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL WHERE THEY SAY, HEY, SO IF DO NOT, WE'RE FINE NOW.

SO LONG AS WE'RE MAKING A DECISION, IF WE PLAN TO REPAIR IT, THEN WE WOULD SIMPLY SUBMIT A PLAN OF REPAIR THE PROJECTED TIMELINE, AND THEN INVOLVE EPA FOR RELATIVE INSPECTIONS.

IF WE PLAN TO SAY, WE'RE NOT COUNTING THIS AS A CONTRIBUTOR TO OUR WATER SYSTEM, AND WE ARE DECOMMISSIONING

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SO IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR RISKS WOULD BE IF WE DIDN'T TAKE ACTION.

AND WE OFFICIALLY SAY THAT PLANT HAS NO LONGER A BENEFICIAL BEING USED, AND THAT COORDINATOR HASN'T BEEN THE PLACE AND THAT'S WHERE THE RISKS.

BUT IF WE MAKE A DECISION, WE PASS THE ACTION THAT THE FUNDS TO THAT WATER PLANT, THEN YES.

YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO NOTIFY, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS WATER PLANT OLIVER HAS A COORDINATOR WE'RE NO LONGER USING IT.

UM, AND IT'S SHUT OFF, KEPT OFF, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF OFF THE BOOKS.

WHY IS IT THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS, AND THAT WILL BE ACTUALLY SEEN ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION TO DECLARE WHATEVER ACTION WILL BE NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RIGHT? OR IS IT, YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WOULD BE ANY LEGISLATIVE ACTION REALLY NEEDED FOR THIS.

I, UM, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THE REPAIRS, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY NEED TO LEGISLATE THE EXPENDITURES AND BIDDING OUT THAT WORK, ET CETERA.

UH, IF, IF, UH, MMM.

IT CAN ACTUALLY, I THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

AND IN RETROSPECT, TO HAVE THE ADVERSE OF MAYBE MONDAY A RESOLUTION INDICATING THAT, UH, WE'RE DECLARING THE, UH, THE WATER PLANT, UM, UH, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE SURPLUS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, PLEASE BE COMMISSIONED, PLEASE BE COMMISSIONED.

I JUST KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION.

THAT THAT IS WHAT .

AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY, UM, ELEVATE OUR STANDINGS OF WHAT OUR DECISIONS ARE WITH YOU PA AND, AND I, AND I'M GONNA HOPE BY MONDAY, UM, WHEN COUNSEL DOES CONSIDER THAT A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, WE WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF A BETTER DIRECTION FOR ME OR SOMETHING TO THAT.

SHOULD, COULD WE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SEAWAY, I GUESS? ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL, WE'LL CONFIRM WITH THEM THAT IF THAT ACTION, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, RESOLVES OUR INTENTION WITH THE PLANT RESOLVES ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY HAVE AND SOME OF THE INOPERABLE PARTS OF IT.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

I THINK THAT DEFINITELY SATISFIES THE NAME MOVING FORWARD.

I HOPE WE CAN JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY ARCHITECT.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

I DON'T LIKE TRAGIC LEGISLATION THAT EITHER ARE SO MOST LIKELY I WILL DO IT AS LEGISLATION DECOMMISSION.

THAT'S PERFECT.

MAY I SAY I SEE YOUR HAND IS STILL UP.

IS THAT FROM BEFORE? DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT? OKAY, SO YOU, OH, NO WORRIES.

I JUST WANT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE BEFORE? OKAY, GOOD DISCUSSION.

ACTUALLY DO THE BID, UH, BUT THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION AUTHORIZED SOLICITATION OF BIDS AND AWARD.

NEXT UP IS I GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER, I HAVE A SANDWICH.

SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

UM, UH, OUR, UM, UH, PAINTING, UH, BEGIN THE, DID SOME PATCHING NORTH OF SEVEN EIGHT, GIVE IT EIGHT LAST WEEK.

THEY WILL BE BACK TOMORROW NIGHT TO DO SOME EVENING PAVING.

THEY SHOULD BE DONE THIS WEEK ON THE BRAND NORTH OF 70.

SO JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT.

UM, UH, TWO MORE, UH, TWO MORE QUICK THINGS.

UH, NOPE, NOPE, NO, I'M TRYING TO RUSH MYSELF FOR INSTANCE.

UM, WE WILL HAVE A NEED, WE HAVE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY NOT ONLY THE CARES ACT, UH, BUT WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED THE TUFTS TOUCHLESS FIXTURES PROJECT AS, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT WITHIN OUR CITY FACILITIES, OUR PARTS, ETC.

UH, WHEN WE WENT OUT AND INCLUDED SOME OF THE EXTRA STUFF, OUR INITIAL ESTIMATE WAS A LITTLE BIT OFF, UH, AND IT'S GOING TO RISE ABOVE THE, UH, THE THRESHOLD WHERE WE WILL NEED TO GET, UH, APPROVAL, UH, POTENTIALLY WE WERE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BID, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE LIKELY ABOVE THE BID, AN AWARD, A THRESHOLD OF 75,000.

IT'S COMING IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO 83,000 ISH.

SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE DID DO THE RFP, WE RECEIVED FIVE RESPONSES.

UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK, UM, LEGISLATION TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF THE VENDOR OF THE LOWEST INVESTS.

UM, JUST SINCE THE PREVIOUS AWARD SAID, YOU CAN SOLICIT RECEIVE AN AWARD THE BID, BUT BECAUSE THE BIDS CAME IN ABOVE THE THRESHOLD, UNLESS JERRY SPEAKS OTHERWISE, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BEST JUST TO GO AHEAD AND COVER THE, UH, THE BIDDING PROCESS WITH THAT IDENTIFIED THRESHOLD IN IT.

WELL, WE DID

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IT'S JUST THE AWARD NOW IS ABOVE WHAT OUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR AN AWARD.

WE DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO COME IN.

WE THOUGHT IT WOULD COME IN UNDER 75, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

THEY CAME IN AND THE LOWEST WAS 83.

SO GOING TO NEED TO ALLOW THAT THRESHOLD.

SO WE JUST NEED TO DO, UH, AUTHORIZING, ENTERING A CONTRACT BASED ON THAT BID, WOULD THAT WORK? OKAY, SO THAT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, BUT I KNOW WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PASSED LEGISLATION FOR THAT.

UM, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE HIM THAT DATE ON THAT, THAT SINCE THE BIDS WERE RECEIVED, THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT INCLUDED SOME OF THE FEATURES THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER COST FOR SOME OF THE PARKS, UH, SOME OF THE PUBLIC FUTURES.

SO THERE'S, THOSE HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER COST TO THEM DUE TO THE, UH, RUGGED RUGGEDNESS REVENUE SHARING, ET CETERA.

LET'S A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK, OCTOBER 17TH, 11 TO 5:00 PM, WE ARE GOING TO DO BITES NIGHTS.

SO, UH, WE FEEL THAT THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

UH, ALTHOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF BITES IN THE LIGHTS LIGHT, UH, BUYING SOME HEIGHTS LIGHT, UM, THERE WON'T BE CONCERTS, ET CETERA, UH, IN GATHERING, BUT WE, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, UH, W WITH ME AND WITH, UH, WITH OUR STAFF AND FOLKS TO BRING IN A SERIES OF FOOD TRUCKS, AGAIN, TO HAVE AN EVENT, TO HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT AND, UH, AND ENJOY SOME, UH, SOME TASTING OF SOME FOODS AND SOBRIETY FOOD TRUCKS.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE WEEKEND BEFORE OUR MOVIE, OUR CRUISE IN, AND SOME FOOD TRUCKS AND THAT AS WELL AT THE MUSIC CENTER.

AND, UH, WE ARE FINALIZING, UM, UH, THE, THE PLANS AND WE'LL GET THE ANNOUNCEMENT OUT FOR THE BISON HEIGHTS.

WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE WANT TO MAKE THAT AN APRIL EVENT.

AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS THIS YEAR, UH, THERE'S STILL WAYS THAT WE CAN HAVE IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT TO MAKE THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN COUNT ON A YEAR TO YEAR BECAUSE OF ITS INITIAL FIRST YEAR SUCCESS AND ATTRIBUTE, AND HONOR TO MR. BELL, UM, WHO, UH, WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN PUTTING THAT, HELPING US PUT THAT TOGETHER.

I ATTRIBUTE TO HIM GOD REST HIS SOUL.

AND, UH, BECAUSE HE WAS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCK ASSOCIATION AND REALLY HELPED US OUT ON MANY EVENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UH, WE THINK IT'S, UH, VERY IMPORTANT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT TRADITIONAL.

AND SO, UH, WE WANT TO DO THAT AND, UM, UH, WE'RE FINALIZING THE POTENTIAL, UH, EVENT AT OUR BARN FOR NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH, FOR NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, THE ALS SOCIETY, UH, HERE ORIGINALLY FOR OUR NONPROFIT TO HAVE ANOTHER TYPE OF GATHERING OF FOOD TRUCK THING TO HOPEFULLY RAISE SOME MONEY FOR ALS AWARENESS AND, AND, UM, UH, IN COOPERATION WITH, UH, WITH OUR EFFORTS THERE AT THE BARN TO ATTACK THAT SPACE AS WELL.

SO I'D BE LOOKING FOR THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS SOON.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND HOPEFULLY THROUGH THE FALL, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME THINGS TO DO HERE.

HE WRITES PROBABLY JUST SAY IT WAS OCTOBER 17TH, OCTOBER 17TH, 11 TO FIVE.

UH, ANNOUNCEMENT FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL BE COMING OUT WHERE, UH, THIS IS FRESH OFF THE PRESS JUST TO FINALIZE TODAY.

SO WE'VE GOT TO DEVELOP THE, UH, THE MARKETING INFORMATION AND STUFF.

SO WE WANT TO START GETTING IT OUT.

SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR WHEN SHE GETS HER, UH, ON THE BIKES AND THE HEIGHTS? SO WE'D BE MODIFYING A LITTLE BIT.

WELL, THERE'S WHEN WE STILL HAVE SOCIALLY DISTANCE AREAS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO EAT, THERE WILL BE A REVENUE SITUATION.

WELL, IT'S FUNNY.

I SAID BECAUSE WHEN THE FOOD TRUCKS GET THEIR PERMISSION TO HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO SERVE, CARRY OUT AND NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO GET, HOWEVER, THERE'S A BIT OF A CONFLICT BECAUSE THERE WAS MUSIC CENTER IS A PUBLIC PARK.

PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO PAY, THEY CAN HAVE THINGS IN PARKS.

SO PEOPLE, AS WE HAVE FROM DAY ONE, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE SOME COMMON SENSE AND MAKE A JUDGMENT DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES.

WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, UH, THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SPACE OUT AND ENJOY, UH, THE PUBLIC PARK SPACE, AS WELL AS THE FOOD TRUCKS AND THE VENDORS THAT WILL BE THERE.

EXCELLENT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

THAT TAKES ME THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. TRUMP? THANK YOU, ROB.

UM, SOMETIME AGO WE VISITED THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR REGARDING REPEAT RATE OF TWO OH ONE AND TWO AND TWO.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A RESURFACING DONE, UH, THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR IS ANY OF THAT WE'LL DO LATER.

SO LET'S GET IT.

THE TWO OH ONE NORTH OF 70 WAS THIS YEAR AGAIN, 21 AND 22 ARE THE TWO OH ONE AND TWO, ONE TWO.

UH, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THOSE ARE STILL ON THEIR BOOKS.

I KNOW, I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH SOME DISCUSSION.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION OF ANY FUTURE PROJECTS ON, INTO NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF OTHER DELAYS? NOT, NOT THAT WE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.

OKAY, PERFECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR MR. SHOWRUNNER'S REPORT?

[00:40:05]

I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYMORE.

THE COMMENT THAT I HAD, ACTUALLY, I WOULD, UM, ONLY, ONLY INTERVIEWED.

UM, OKAY.

SO NEXT UP THEN WE HAVE OUR TOPICS OF DISCUSSION WITH IT FOR THIS EVENING, ITEM

[ SCBA Compressor/Fill Station - Award Contract - Fire Division ]

THREE, B, WHICH IS THE SCBA COMPRESSOR FILL STATION AWARDING THAT CONTRACT AND FIRE DIVISION CHIEF.

I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE EVERYBODY IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

SO, UH, WE PUT OUT FOR BID, UM, THE REPLACEMENT OF A COMPRESSOR AND FILL STATION THAT FILLS OUR SCBA OR BREATHING PACKS.

UH, BIDS CAME IN, WE HAD TWO VENDORS BID ON THAT.

UH, BREATHING AIR SYSTEMS CAME IN AT THE LOWEST BEST BID, A FINAL COST OF $40,487 AND 25 CENTS.

IT'S PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY.

IT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ACCEPT THE LOWEST BEST BIT ANY OBJECTIONS OKAY, THANKS YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL JUST STAY RIGHT HERE.

[ Assistance To Firefighters Grant - Accept Award - Fire Division]

UP IS THAT RECEIPT, WHICH IS ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS GRANT.

ACCEPTING THAT AWARD IS IN THE FIRE DIVISION.

THAT'S CHIEF, AS WELL AS YOU WERE AWARE OF, WE APPLY ANNUALLY FOR THAT CAN KIND OF GET SOME OF THE HIGH PRICE EQUIPMENT OFF OF OUR CAPITAL LINEUP, FIRETRUCK BEING ONE LOCATION, WHICH WAS A DISPATCH SYSTEM.

THE OPTICOM SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, CHIEF KNISELY WROTE THIS LAST YEAR FOR US TO PURCHASE THEY'RE CALLED POWER ASSISTED PATIENT COTS AND A LOADING SYSTEM.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE CAN PUT A PATIENT ON A COCK.

WE WILL NEVER HAVE TO PHYSICALLY PICK UP THAT PATIENT.

THE SYSTEM IS HYDRAULIC BUILDS INTO IT.

IT PICKS THE PATIENT UP.

AND THEN THERE IS A CANDLE LEVER ARM THAT COMES OUT OF THE BACK OF THE AMBULANCE.

IF HE GRABS THE COT AND PULLS IT IN MINIMIZING ANY POTENTIAL BACK INJURY STRAINS, OR OTHERWISE LOADING PATIENTS AND EQUIPMENT INTO THE BACK OF THE AMBULANCE.

WE JUST FOUND OUT AT THE WRITING OF LEGISLATION THAT I PUT IN FOR AGENDA QUICK, THAT WE IN FACT WERE AWARDED THAT GRANT FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS ASSISTANCE.

THE TOTAL PROJECT FOR THE GRANT IS $243,021 AND 15 CENTS.

WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A 10% MATCH, WHICH COMES TO $22,092 83 CENTS, WHICH WE ARE ABLE TO COVER WITHIN OUR OWN BUDGET AS STATEMENTS.

SO TONIGHT'S LEGISLATION OR RESOLUTION IS THROUGH ASK TO ACCEPT THE AWARD.

WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT IT.

AND THEN AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR WORK SESSION, I WILL HAVE PREPARED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO THEM, PUSH OUT WHAT VENDORS CAN SUPPLY THIS FOR US.

SO THAT IS, THAT IS THE ASK TONIGHT IS THAT, UH, THE RESOLUTION BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE AWARD.

UH, AND I WILL SAY AT THE VERY END OF THIS, I CONGRATULATE CHIEF NICELY, I BELIEVE IS CLOSE UP TO ALMOST $2 MILLION IN AWARDS FOR THIS CITY SINCE MY TANGENTS CHIEF.

SO I BLOCKED HIM.

I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THAT HE HAS SAVED US OVER THE YEARS? CAUSE I ALWAYS HEAR HIS NAME COMES THROUGH GRANTS AND THINGS HAS GOTTEN THAT.

AND I LOOKED AT THIS I'M ACTUALLY, THIS IS A CRIMINAL TOO TO HE'S.

YEAH, THERE HAS BEEN, I DON'T KNOW OF A GRANT THAT HAS BEEN LESS THAN SIX FIGURES THAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIRE THROUGH THE ASSISTANCE OF FIREFIGHTERS.

THAT'S FANTASTIC.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? YES, SIR.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I LIKED YOUR GRADES WHEN YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER.

IT'S A WINNER FOR US.

MOST DEFINITELY, ABSOLUTELY COMMENTS FOR THE CHIEF REGARDING, UH, ACCEPTING THIS AWARD.

THIS VERSION, UH, ON THE JOB YOU GOT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.

I'M GOING TO ASK ANYWAY, JUST SO IT'S DONE.

ARE THERE OBJECTIONS TO MOVE INTO SONG TWO MONDAYS HERE? YOU'RE NOT SEEING THEM, DO WE MOVE THEM? ALL RIGHT.

BESIDE THREE D, WHICH IS OUR SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS, MR. BELL, I'M GETTING AN AMERICAN, UH, I WAS ON VACATION LAST WEEK AND I'M NOT HAD A CHANCE TO COMPLETE THE FABULOUS MEETING.

NEXT UP

[ Supplemental Appropriations]

AND I IMAGINE THAT THE LAST FEW SESSIONS, THE ONLY

[00:45:02]

HALF OF THIS MEETING TODAY, WOULDN'T BE RELATED TO PERONA.

AND, UM, AS I TRY TO GET THE EXACT NUMBER OF READY CHANGES ALMOST EIGHT.

AND, UH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THESE FUNDS AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SENT AND COUNTED WHERE I'M LATE.

SO I WILL ASK TOMORROW ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK , BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY WILL ONLY MAKE MONEY THAT ALREADY IN ADDITION TO .

SO ARE THERE, UM, ANY OBJECTIONS TO WHAT THOSE TWO USES WOULD BE BY MR. UP FOR MONDAY? YES.

MS. BURKE.

WELL, THE RIGHT NOW SO, UM, AT STANFORD RIGHT NOW.

THEN WE SPIT OUT ALL THOSE WHO STILL NEED THE MONEY.

AND I MEAN, SURELY WE ARE ALREADY SET AND THAT'S MORE THAN THE ONE WE SAID THAT IS AN ACTION OF THE KIND OF OUR WAY.

AND WE'VE GOT THAT.

SO HAPPY, EVEN BETTER.

SO I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT OUT.

YOU'D DIDN'T IT OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM MR. BELL OR ANY OTHER, I GUESS, OBJECTIONS OR FEW OBJECTIONS TO MOVING ON THAT MONDAY FOR THOSE CHANGES.

I GUESS, MR. BELL, THIS IS YOU ALSO THE CARES ACT, UH, EXPENSIVE OPERATION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THIS IS AND I MENTIONED TWO WEEKS AGO IN ORDER TO SUBMIT REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THE THEATERS BACK MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO US, ONE OF THE VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENTS IS FOR YOUR BODY TO APPROVE THIS.

AND NEXT UP,

[ CARES Act Expense Declaration]

THEY DEEM NECESSARY TO UP VIRUS COVID-19.

AND SO SORT OF WHAT I DO IS, UH, AND MONEY SIGNS, ALL OF THAT TRACK LIST, SEVERAL OF THE ACCOUNT NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT FUNDS.

AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT ANY PUT ON THAT LIST SET UP , JUST PURCHASED FROM

[00:50:02]

, BUT THE THIRD PAGE IS A SUMMARY OF ALL OR RELATED TO EMS SERVICE.

SO THE SUMMARY OF THAT, AND AS YOU CAN SEE A SUMMARY OF ALL MARCH AND THE HANDLE HAWKS, UH I NEVER GAVE SECOND TIME, UH, ANY OTHER HOT HOUSE UM, SORT OF THE 78% IS JUST UM, THOSE SERVICES THAT ARE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT AND NECESSARY.

AND SO , THEN IT'S MORE THAN THE MONEY THAT WE'VE SEEN.

SO THAT IS AND ARE STILL THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR MICHIGAN, MR. SHAW, UH, JIM, UH, THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND YOUR WORK ON THE SPREADSHEET.

I, UH, I KNOW THE RULES AND KIND OF THE GUIDELINES KIND OF SEEM LIKE THEY KEEP CHANGING DAILY ALONG THIS, UH, THE END VOICES THAT WE CAME BACK.

UM, SO I JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION WE'VE RECEIVED A LITTLE OVER $835,000 IN TWO DIFFERENT, UM, CARES ACT DISBURSEMENTS, AND JIMMY, IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY THE RESEARCH SHOWS IT, BUT IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS HAS EXCEEDED THE 835,000 AND COULD UTILIZE MORE FUNDING? YES, YES.

THE EMS, THE AOL, THAT IS A .

I SUBMITTED ALL THOSE ANOTHER MESSAGE THAT I SHOULD HAVE FOR YOU.

IN ADDITION, AGAIN, WHATEVER THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN AND THE SMALLER I THANK YOU, MR. BURGER.

IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ACCEPT JIM'S EXHIBIT EIGHT AND THE CARRIER'S FUNDING DECLARATION.

IN ADDITION TO PREPARE LEGISLATION OR RESOLUTION ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMUNITY, IF YOU REVISED THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE DIRECTED TO THE OHIO LEGISLATOR, INFORMING THEM THAT WE HAVE EXCEEDED OUR TWO DISPERSIONS OF 835,000 AND THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS WOULD A, WOULD ACCEPT AND BENEFIT FROM ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT CAN COME DOWN AS CURRENTLY THE, UM, OTHER REPRESENTATIVES ARE DISCUSSING ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND CLARIFICATIONS TO THE CARE THAT I NEED.

THAT RESOLUTION OF THE TIME COMMANDER AND MENTOR, STATE REPRESENTATIVE STANDS WOULD BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

DID THEY MISS SHOPPING INJECTIONS, HAVING THESE RESOLUTION PREPARED READY FOR MONDAY, CASEY? NONE OF THAT PREPARED FOR MONDAY'S MEETING.

I THINK IT WAS NEXT UP

[ Tax Rate Certification - Montgomery County]

IS ITEM THREE F WHICH IS THE TAX RATE CERTIFICATION FROM THE GOVERNMENT KENYON.

DOES THAT BE JIM AGAIN, JIM STILL, UH, WELL, UH, AT, UH, UH, AT THIS GAME.

UH AND THEN MY DAD WAS NOT SO

[00:55:02]

AND OF EXTENSION FOR, UM, THE AND SO, UH, OUR HOUSE.

THREE G, WHICH IS A NEW BRAIN APPLICATION FOR THE SERVICE WITHIN EPFC AT THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER AND TOM SCOTT'S PODIUM.

A RECOMMENDATION MAY BE ACCEPTED.

WE'LL MOVE THAT TO WHAT WE'LL MOVE INTO THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ Grant Application – EV Service Equipment (EVSE) – Rose Music Center/Thomas Cloud Park]

I'M ASSUMING IT'S LIKE, UM, THIS WAS A, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME UP THROUGH THE OHIO EPA THROUGH THEIR DIESEL MITIGATION TRUST FUND, BUT THEY HAVE MONIES AVAILABLE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF LEVEL TWO ELECTRONIC ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS TO BE PLACED ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.

UH, SO THIS IS THE FIRST ROUND OF SOME, THESE TYPE OF THINGS THEY'RE LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR, DOING THE FAST CHARGERS.

THESE ARE GOING TO BE SLOW CHARTERS.

UH, WE LOOKED AT, UH, DIFFERENT SITES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF WHAT PUBLIC SPACES ARE AVAILABLE.

UM, KIND OF LOOKED AT THREE SITES, UM, AND THEN MET WITH THE CONTRACTOR OUT AT EACH OF THOSE SITES, UH, CLOUD PARK, THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER.

WE ALSO LOOK GET THE Y AS A POSSIBLE LOCATION.

THE, ON THOSE SITE VISITS LOOKED AT ELECTRIC CAPABILITIES THERE, THOSE CONNECTIONS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE ARE, WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THESE.

AND THEN ALSO THE FEASIBILITY OF WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AT THOSE, UM, WITH THAT, THAT, UH, THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER, UH, EVERYBODY'S SUPER EXCITED THROUGHOUT THAT SITE, BUT THAT'S SEEMS TO BE A GREAT SITE FOR THIS.

AND THEN CLOUD PARK AS LIKE ANOTHER LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY THAT THEY'RE SPACED FAR ENOUGH AWAY.

IT'S THE SOUTHERN POINT OF THE CITY AS WELL.

WHY IT DIDN'T TURN OUT VERY WELL? WELL, BECAUSE THE NEW ELECTRIC CAPABILITIES THEY'RE ABOUT WHERE THEY'D HAVE TO RUN FROM AND THEN REPLACE THOSE.

SO THE COSTS ON THAT ONE WOULD BE A LOT HIGHER THAN SOME OF THESE OTHER, THE OTHER TWO SITES.

AND SO THAT WOULD END UP BEING A THIRD.

SO IT WOULDN'T WORK VERY WELL WITH THAT GRANT APPLICATION, THE EPA HAS ALLOCATED $115,000 PER COUNTY.

SO, UH, BOTH OF OUR SITES ARE IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

SO WE WOULD BE KEY FOR THOSE DOLLARS.

THE FUNDING IS THE LESSER OF $7,500 OR A HUNDRED PERCENT.

YEAH, THE ELIGIBLE COSTS FOR SINGLE PORTS OR $15,000 OR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ELIGIBLE COSTS FOR FUEL PORTS TO DO ONE DUAL PORT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES.

AT CLOUD PARK, TWO DUAL PORTS AT THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER.

SO THE POTENTIAL IS $15,000 GRANT FOR CLOUD PARK, $30,000 GRAND FOR THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER.

AND SO, UH, AS PART OF THE EDUCATION, THERE IS A LETTER OF COMMITMENT NEEDED.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO REQUEST FROM CITY COUNCIL, A RESOLUTION ON MONDAY TO AUTHORIZE US TO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE APPLICATION YOU HAVE ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS WE DID GET, UM, THE, UH, THE CONTRACTOR WORKED UP SOME ROUGH NUMBERS, UM, ON EACH OF THESE.

SO, UH, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CITY PORTION THAT WE'LL GO ABOVE THAT GRANT AMOUNT.

SO FOR THE ROSE FOR A $30,000 GRANT, UM, THEY, THEIR FIRST NUMBER IS ABOUT 45,000.

THE INSTALLATION PART OF WHAT'S IN THERE, OR SOME THINGS THAT, AS THEY SAID, THEY MADE IT, THIS IS HOW WE CAN DO SOME LIGHT PAINTING OUT THE, UH, THE STENCILS OUT ON THE PAVEMENT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WE CAN BRING SOME OF THOSE COSTS DOWN.

THAT'S KIND OF AN INCOMING TODAY.

AND THEN FOR CLOUD IT'S 24,000.

SO THERE'S A $9,000 CITY PORTION.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW EXCITED I AM ABOUT THIS, MR. SEAN AND I HAVE WORKED WITH A LOCAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE ORGANIZATIONS.

WHY NOT? THAT'D BE RPC ON THERE THAT ARE LIKE THEIR CORRIDORS, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO, UH, GET SET IN, IN A REGION.

UM, I MEAN, WE ALREADY ARE THE ONLY ONES ON THE MAP.

UM, AND NOW WE'RE JUST STRENGTHENING OUR POSITION.

THEN THIS MORNING, THEY LEADING THE REGION AND SHOWING HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES, NEW VEHICLES, UH, ROSEBY CENTER IS IN A PERFECT PLACE FOR THIS, AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK ON THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

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MR. TRUMP, SINCE OUR DISCUSSION ON THIS, I REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, SUCH AS PLUGSHARE AND A CONTACT WITH THEM.

THE RPC, UM, WITH, UH, COUNCIL HAS NO OBJECTIONS.

I LIKE TO WORK WITH SCOTT.

UM, SO THAT WAY, ONCE THESE UNITS ARE IN, UM, WE CAN IMMEDIATELY BECOME A DESTINATION OR OF SHARE APPLICATIONS, UM, THAT ARE USED BY ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMPANIES AND DRIVERS.

UM, SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET IMMEDIATE ENHANCEMENT AND BENEFIT FROM THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR MR. SHAW'S IS ASKING ME FOR A COUNCIL PERMISSION TO WORK WITH, UM, MR. OBJECTIONS TO THAT.

SEE, NONE.

SO REGARDING THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE ACTUAL THREE YES.

ANY OBJECTION TO THAT ON TWO MONDAYS.

NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE H WHICH IS ENERGY PERFORMANCE PROJECT UPDATE PRESENTATION.

[ Energy Performance Project Update Presentation]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CORY, SIR.

I'M GOOD.

HOW ABOUT YOURSELF? EXCELLENT.

UH, SO AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, UM, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING TOWARDS, UM, BRING IT TOGETHER, AN ENERGY PERFORMANCE PROJECT, UH, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

THE PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO, UH, EFFECTIVELY BRING TOGETHER SOME OF THOSE, UH, GOOFY ODDS AND ENDS IN THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE WORLD.

UH, THAT ALWAYS SEEM TO FLUCTUATE KIND OF DISCOMBOBULATE OUR BUDGET.

SO, UH, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD A PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL ABOUT A POTENTIAL PROJECT SCOPE EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

UH, AND SINCE THAT TIME, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT ESG HERE, AND WE'VE KIND OF DIALED IN A FINAL SCOPE OF WHAT THAT PROJECT LOOKS LIKE.

AND, UH, WE'RE GETTING READY TO RECEIVE RFPS FOR FINANCING THIS PROJECT.

SO WE WANTED TO BRING, UH, ESG BACK BEFORE COUNCIL, UH, AND SHOW YOU WHAT THE FINAL PROJECT LOOKS LIKE.

SOME OF THE THINGS ARE, ARE THE SAME FROM WHAT YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY.

UM, AND THEN SOME OTHER ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE PROJECT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL ACTUALLY TURN THE PODIUM OVER TO KEITH CAT AND HIS COLLEAGUE, LARRY SHERMAN WILL BE JOINING US, UH, THE MS TEAMS. AND THEY'LL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THE CHANGE IN SCOPE AND WHAT COUNCIL CAN EXPECT, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT AS WE GO FORWARD.

SO KEEP SURE WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR COUNCIL CITY MANAGER IS MY ASSISTANT.

NOW WHAT I'M HERE TO DO IS BRING YOU AN UPDATE FROM AUGUST THE ACTION THAT, UH, COUNCIL HAD TO, UH, HAVE US START MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, OR SPECIAL THANKS TO, TO ADMINISTRATION.

CAUSE THIS WAS, UH, A VERY QUICK TIME PERIOD THING WE WENT THROUGH AND DID A LOT OF WORK, UH, FOR BOTH OF US TO KIND OF COLLABORATE AND REALLY KIND OF VET OUT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES AND ALL THE, UH, UH, UH, TECHNICAL, UH, PROJECTS THAT WERE NOT ONLY A CAPITAL BUDGET, BUT THINGS THAT WE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AS WE WALKED THROUGH BUILDINGS.

AND AS WE TALKED TO PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY WHAT WAS, UH, CORN.

SO THE, THE, UH, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LEADING UP TO IS PRESENTING A FINAL CONTRACT, UH, WITH FINANCING, UH, PROBABLY EITHER YOUR FIRST OR SECOND SET OF MEETINGS IN OCTOBER.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE TIMEFRAME WHICH, WHICH ALIGNS WITH WHAT BRYAN HAD MENTIONED WAS A 120 DAYS TERM BETWEEN SELECTION AND, UH, BRINGING SOMETHING BACK FOR COUNCIL TO ACT UPON IT.

GO AHEAD AND THANK YOU.

SO THE TERMS OF THE PROJECT THAT IT'S REALLY THE PROJECT FOR THE CITY WHO HEIGHTS.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR GOAL IS THAT THE SUCCESSFUL PROJECT IS IT'S HOW YOU MEASURE IT.

SO WE REALLY FOCUSED A LOT OF TIME ON LOOKING AT PROJECTS THAT WERE THERE AND THERE'S LARRY THERE.

SO, UH, WE, WE FOCUSED ON, UM, PROJECTS THAT MADE PHYSICAL SENSE.

IF YOU WILL, AGAIN, IF THE GOAL WAS TO FIND A PRICE BOOK PAY FOR ITSELF, UM, WE DEALT WITH A LOT OF END OF LIFE ISSUES.

SO THE CITY HAS DONE A REALLY NICE JOB OF MAINTAINING THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE, BUT A LOT OF STUFF CLEARLY AS INCENTIVES, AND IT'S REALLY TIME TO ADDRESS THAT.

AND THERE'S BRIAN DIMENSION.

I THINK IN ONE OF THE EARLIER MEETINGS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FLATTEN OUT THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

AND THIS IS REALLY THE TIME TO DO IT BASED ON AGE OF SOME OF YOUR EQUIPMENT AND SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE UNDER THIS LEGISLATION AS JIM BELL.

AND, AND, UH, BRIAN ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS,

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THAT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THE, THE DEBT CAPACITY OF BORROWING CAPACITY OF THE CITY UNDER THIS LEGISLATION.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US IN ANY COMMUNITY WE'VE WORKED WITH IS LOCAL BUSINESS PARTICIPATION.

SO WE HAD A GOOD TEAM THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT WE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, AND WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE SELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD AND DEVELOP THIS PROJECT.

UH, THIS IS A CALL IS DIRECTIONALLY ACCURATE TERMS OF WHERE ALL YOUR BUILDINGS, WHERE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MAP AND SO MANY, UH, UH, LOGOS, YOU CAN PUT ON A, ON A SLIDE, BUT, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THESE ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, OR WE FOCUSED ON.

SO IN TERMS OF THE SCOPES THAT WE WORKED THROUGH WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT STAFF, AS WELL AS MIKE GRAY, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS, UH, AT THE BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON TONIGHT.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF SIMILARITY BETWEEN A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS, OR AT LEAST A THEME, IF YOU WILL.

AND WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING WITHIN THESE BUILDINGS, BUT AGAIN, WE FOCUSED ON THINGS THAT MAKE PHYSICAL SENSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE INTO LIFE, THINGS THAT WERE IN YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET, THINGS THAT WE CAN PULL FORWARD, UH, AND, AND, AND PROVIDE SOMEONE A GOOD RETURN BACK TO THE CITY.

SO ONE OF THE GOALIES ARE SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE SCOPE, UH, INTERIOR LIGHTING UPGRADES AT THIS BUILDING, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME HEATING AND COOLING UPGRADES, THIS BUILDING, OR SOME CHALLENGES THEY'RE BUILDING CONTROLS.

WE'RE GOING TO DO PARKING LOT LIGHTING TO LED NOT ONLY THIS BUILDING, IT REALLY IS COMPLEX.

SO THIS THE COURTS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALL BEING LED LIGHTING OUTSIDE, AND THEN WITH REGARD TO, UH, INDOOR AIR QUALITY WITH, UH, WITH COVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME ADDITIONAL FILTRATION ON, ON THE SBAC SYSTEM WITHIN THIS BUILDING AND DO SOME THINGS TO HELP THEM MINIMIZE PATHOGENS IN THE, IN THE AIR, IF YOU WILL.

SO AGAIN, DO SOME THINGS IN TERMS OF INDOOR AIR QUALITY, AND IT ALSO WILL HELP THE EQUIPMENT RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY, KIND OF A DUPLICATION OF THE, OF THE FIRST, FIRST SLIDE, VERY SIMILAR THINGS THAT THE POLICE AND COURTS DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT, IF YOU WILL, IN TERMS OF THERE'S SOME ROOFTOP UNITS OVER THE COURTS, THERE'S SOME, UH, DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE IN TERMS OF SOME DUCT WORK ON TOP OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S RUSTY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, BUT VERY SIMILAR, UH, SCOPE, UH, AT THE POLICE AND IN THE COURTS IN TERMS OF THE AQUATIC CENTER, UH, UH, VERY LIMITED SCOPE, BUT OUR FOCUS THERE IS DRIVING ENERGY SAVING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO OPTIMIZE, UH, THE HVC SYSTEM.

AND I DID STEAL THAT PICTURE.

SO, UH, JUST SO I DON'T KNOW WHO TO GIVE CREDIT FOR, BUT I THOUGHT THAT ON YOUR WEBSITE SCHOOL, IT'S A GREAT PICTURE.

UH, UH, BUT, UH, WHOEVER CUT YOUR GRASS REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, BUT OPTIMIZING THE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, WE'RE TAKING IT AND THE PUMPING OF THE, OF THE WATER AT THE AQUATIC CENTER, SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DRIVING EFFICIENCY IN MAKING THAT BUILDING, UH, MORE EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF THE TOP GRADE, A STATIONS 22 OR 23, A VERY SOLAR LED LIGHTING INTERIOR, UH, HDC CONTROLS UPGRADES.

AND YOU'RE GONNA FIND THE CONTROLS UPGRADE A COMMON THEME THROUGHOUT.

WELL, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GIVE THE CITY, UH, PARTICULARLY THE, THE FOLKS THAT MAINTAIN YOUR EQUIPMENT ACCESS REMOTELY TO YOUR BUILDINGS WITH UPGRADED CONTROL SYSTEMS. SO THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES AND MONITOR NOT ONLY FROM A COMFORT OR AN ENERGY PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF IF THERE'S SOMETHING, UH, SOMETHING FAILS, THEY'VE GOT, UH, ACCESS REMOTELY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO TO THE SITE.

SO AGAIN, UPGRADING TO MORE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, IF YOU WILL, THAT MOST OF THE MAJOR BUILDINGS, INDOOR AIR QUALITY AT, UH, 22 AND THREE, ONE THINGS THAT NOTES, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT HAPPENS.

AND I'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA, UH, ON ENERGY RELATED PROJECTS, THINGS, THINGS FAIL AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING THESE THINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENED HERE.

THERE WERE SOME, UH, SOME, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, HAD SOME PROBLEMS AT THE FIRE STATION.

THAT'S BEING THAT WE HELPED TRY TO ADDRESS AT LEAST GET IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO, UM, UH, WE THINK WE'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING IN THE SCOPE, UH, CONTROL UPGRADES AND INDOOR AIR QUALITY, 25 IT'S IT'S YOUR NEWER STATION.

UH, HAC IS IN GOOD SHAPE, UH, YOU KNOW, GOT LED LIGHTING INTERIOR.

SO WE'RE REALLY JUST DOING A LITTLE, A LITTLE TWEAKS THERE TO DRIVE, UH, ENERGY OPERATIONS.

AND AT THE SENIOR CENTER, HBC IS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

SO WE WERE NOT MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THERE, BUT IN TERMS OF LED LIGHTING CONTROLS, INDOOR AIR QUALITY, UH, AGAIN, UH, MAKE THAT FACILITY, UH, MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, IF YOU WILL, AND DRIVE, DRIVE COST SAVINGS, ROSE MUSIC CENTER, THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

I THINK WE CAN DO SOME, SOME REALLY NEAT THINGS WITH REGARDS TO GOING INTO LED TRAFFIC VOTE, LED LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT THAT ARE REALLY BRIGHT ENOUGH THAT, THAT SPACE, UM,

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THE OTHER THING IS IT'S REALLY GOING TO GIVE YOU LONG LIFE, LOWER MAINTENANCE COSTS.

UH, AS LONG AS PEOPLE AREN'T HITTING POLES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE DOWNTOWN LED.

IT'S STILL A TARGET IF YOU WILL, FOR CARS, BUT, UH, IT'S REALLY GONNA BREAK UP THAT SPACE AND, YOU KNOW, FROM A SAFETY SECURITY, AND REALLY JUST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NOTICE THAT THAT THAT PLACE IS READY TO ROCK, UH, PARKS AND REC, UM, BASICALLY THREE FACILITIES, I THINK ON THE ORIGINAL LIST, THERE WAS SOME ROOFS, BUT IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

THAT'S, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS CAN ADDRESS WHEN NEEDED, BUT CERTAINLY PARKING LOTS TO, TO, TO UPGRADE THOSE, TO LED AND MAKE THEM MORE, MORE EFFICIENT, UH, BETTER, BETTER LIGHTING IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.

SO THOMAS CLOUD SHELL GATE AND, UH, COTTONWOOD ARE THE THREE THAT HAVE OUTDOOR PARKING BAYS, THAT'S TRAFFIC CONTROL.

AND LARRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

VERY, VERY, JUST GREAT.

SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE TRAFFIC, BUT, UH, I'M NOT GONNA, UH, CLAIM TO BE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, SO I'M GONNA LET YOU KIND OF SPEAK TO THE TRAFFIC CONTROL IF YOU WOULD.

YEAH, THEY'RE THERE.

YEAH, RIGHT.

I CAN HEAR YOU, RYAN.

HE WANTS TO BE WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM.

TO THREE THROUGH OUR, OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

TELL HIM TO NOT WATCH THE LIVE STREAM AND PAY ATTENTION TO TEAMS. GOOD TEAM.

SO LOOK AT THE LIVE STREAM LEARNING.

KEEP GOING.

LET ME TAKE IT.

I APOLOGIZE.

UM, SO WE'RE DOING MASS ARMS, UH, ADD TWO OH TWO AND CHAMBERS WE'RE GOING AT TAYLORSVILLE.

AND THE CITY WAS VERY PROGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF LED TECHNOLOGY AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF FIRST GENERATION OUT THERE.

AND IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE CITY, YOU'LL SEE SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OF LEDS ON THE SIGNAL THAT ARE OUT.

THAT'S KIND OF AN OLDER TECHNOLOGY, UH, AND THEN ALSO ON SOME OF THE PADS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE THOSE TO CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE DEEP, YOU KNOW, REBATES WHILE THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL, TRAWLERS, THREE MAJOR INTERSECTION RATION, REPLACE THE CONTROLLER, UH, TO A CURRENT STANDARD.

AND THEN THERE'S ACTUALLY 23 OTHER INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE'RE JUST GOING TO UPGRADE THEM TO CURRENT TECHNOLOGY.

WE'RE REPLACING, WE'RE JUST GOING TO UPGRADE THEM TO BRING THEM, BRING IT CURRENT.

AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CHICK TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE EFFICIENCIES OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE FIELD WHILE WE'RE IN THE AIR, IF YOU WILL, UM, CONTROL WIRING, UH, MESSENGER WIRES, UH, HANGERS ON, ON TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

SO THERE'S SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUES WEREN'T ADDRESSED WHILE WE'RE THERE.

UH, SO THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU GUYS ARE NOT HAVING TO GO BACK LATER TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE MAINTENANCE ISSUES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY PROACTIVE AND TRY TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, UH, THAT ARE KNOWN AS WE'VE INSPECTED THESE INTERSECTIONS.

AND SO, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH IS KIND OF HOW WE GOT HERE.

UM, WE STARTED WITH THE ORIGINAL PROJECT OF $1.6 MILLION, AND THAT WAS BASED ON DIGGING THROUGH THE CAPITAL BUDGET THERE WAS, UM, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY PRE OR DURING THE, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

IF YOU WILL.

WE KIND OF SCRUB THROUGH THAT AND IDENTIFY $1.6 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT, UH, FIT UNDER THIS LEGISLATION.

AND SO, AS WE REALLY DUG IN AND LOOKED AT EACH AND EVERY BUILDING, UH, YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF DETAIL, WE CAME UP WITH WE'LL CALL IT SIX CATEGORIES OF THINGS THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL.

A 1.6 LIGHTING IS ONE OF THEM.

THE INDOOR AIR QUALITY WE TALKED ABOUT IS ANOTHER ONE, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE AQUATIC CENTER, THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING AT ROSE, SOME OF THE INTERSECTION ENHANCEMENTS LIKE JUST MENTIONED, AND THEN SOME SMALL IT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

AS I MENTIONED, THE COURT'S BUILDING HAS GOT SOME RUSTED OUT DUCT WORK THAT SITS ON TOP OF IT.

SO YOU DON'T WANT TO REPLACE THE TALK IN IT AND JUST LEAVE, LEAVE THE DUCT WORK AS IT IS TO DETERIORATE FURTHER.

SO THERE'S A FEW INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, SOME ELECTRICAL UPGRADES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE.

AND I KIND OF PUT THOSE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WE WENT FROM A 1.6 TO 2.8

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WE STARTED WITH A PROJECT THAT WAS GOING TO SAVE ABOUT $773,000 OVER 15 YEARS.

WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH AND THE PROJECT THAT'S RECOMMENDED IS ONE THAT DRIVES ABOUT $1.6 MILLION IN ENERGY SAVINGS.

SO WE'RE DRIVING ABOUT 111% MORE ENERGY AND OPERATIONAL SAVINGS OVER 15 YEARS.

THEN WHAT WE SET OUT TO DO KIND OF HOW THAT, WHAT THAT TRANSLATES TO IN TERMS OF YOUR BUDGET, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS GOING TO REQUIRE A 20,000 ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION AS, AS IT WAS PRESENTED.

UH, I THINK BACK IN APRIL, UH, TO MAKE THE 1.6 WORK CAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PROGRESSING AND SAVING ENERGY AND THERE IS, THERE'S JUST ONLY SO MUCH IF YOU WILL LOW HANGING FRUIT, BUT FOR ANOTHER 15,000 IN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION, THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THAT, THAT 1.2 TO 1.3 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL SCOPE.

SO IT'S A GREAT RETURN ON YOUR, ON YOUR MONEY IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT TO GET YOU KIND OF WHAT'S NEEDED.

AND AGAIN, WE, WE SCRUBBED THE LIST WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT STAFF TO REALLY GET INTO KIND OF THE CORE OF WHAT WAS NEEDED SO THAT WE COULD DEMONSTRATE A PROJECT THAT WAS, THAT WAS PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE AND THAT WOULD MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE BUDGET.

AND THEN FINALLY, IN TERMS OF SCHEDULE, THIS IS KIND OF THE, THIS IS THE SHORT VERSION AND SCHEDULED LONG PERSON'S SCHEDULE.

IT'S A COUPLE OF PAGES LONG, BUT WE'RE HERE AT THE WORK SESSION IN OUR, UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO IN PARALLEL TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, LET'S WE HAVE OBJECTIONS TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FINANCING, UH, EXERCISE TO, TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR FINANCE RATES IF YOU WILL.

BUT OUR HOPE IS TO FINALIZE THE PROJECT CAUSE WE'VE GOT ABOUT, WE'RE ALMOST THERE.

IF YOU WILL, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 20% SCOPE.

THAT'S, UH, WE'RE FINALIZING THE COST ON AND TO BRING THIS BACK EITHER AT THE FIRST, FIRST TWO MEETINGS AND THE SECOND TWO MEETINGS, OCTOBER FOUR FOR COUNCIL ACTION, IF YOU WILL, WITH THAT, OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WITH THAT? OH, OH GOOD.

SO MS. BIRD TO SEE IF YOUR HANDS UP, YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT, UM, NOT SURE WHERE THE EXACT QUESTION.

SO WHEN I, LIKE, WHEN I USE THE WORD RETURN ON INVESTMENT, I WAS LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE, THE ENERGY AND OPERATIONAL SAVINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, CUT FROM THE BUDGET AS A RESULT OF THE, THE APPROVED MEASURES.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY A TRADITIONAL RETURN ON INVEST, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH MAYBE BETTER STATED IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS OVER A 15 YEAR TERM UNDER LEGISLATION.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CASHFLOW THESE PROJECTS, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ENERGY SAVINGS.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BLEND THOSE IN WITH YOUR, WITH ENERGY SAVINGS, OPERATIONAL SAVINGS, OR CAPITAL SOME OF YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET ITEMS TO HELP DRIVE DOWN THE, THE OVERALL PAYBACK TO KEEP IT INTO THAT 15 YEAR TERM, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA.

UH, SO MAYBE MAYBE BETTER SET OUR STARTING POINT IS THE BASELINE, UH, ENERGY AND OPERATIONAL SAVINGS YOU'RE SPENDING TODAY.

WE LOOK AT THAT AS KIND OF THE BASELINE.

AND THEN WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WHAT PORTION OF THAT BUDGET CAN WE CUT OUT TO PAY FOR THESE ITEMS OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME? AND SO WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH WAS A PROJECT THAT DROVE ABOUT $1.6 MILLION IN ENERGY AND OPERATIONAL SAVINGS, UM, UH, VERSUS THE, YOU KNOW, THE BASELINE OF YOUR BUDGET.

THE QUESTIONS WERE YES.

APPLIED TO THE COST IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE THAT CORRECT.

TYPICALLY ON A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO DEPRECIATE THAT THERE'S SOME DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE

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LOWER ENERGY COSTS.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

YES, SIR.

DO YOU FOLKS HAVE MAYBE A MORE THOROUGH BREAKDOWN OF THE RETURN, FOR EXAMPLE, DID YOU BREAK UP THE LED LIGHTING? WE WILL.

SO W WHAT WERE, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT THE STAFF IS, IT'S KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE PROJECT.

ONCE WE FINALIZE IT, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 20%, THAT'S STILL AN ENGINEERING, IF YOU WILL.

AND ONCE WE GET THAT PUT TOGETHER, WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO STAFF FOR FINAL, FINAL REVIEW IN YOUR SCHEDULE.

THAT WAS UP ON THE BOARD.

YOU START GIVING ME BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND, UH, IF WE CAN GET THE ENGINEERING AND SOME OF OUR COSTS COMPLETED, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK.

IT WOULD BE WHAT THE FIFTH AND THE 12TH.

SO IT WOULD BE AFTER THAT WORK IS DONE, REMINDING US PRIOR TO YES, THANK YOU.

IT'S A 15 YEAR AMORTIZATION FINANCING OF THIS.

SO DO YOU GET THAT FINANCING FOR US? IS THAT PART OF WHAT THIS, YEAH, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS.

SURE, SURE.

SO, UH, JIM BELL WITH CLAIRE SPECTRUM, UH, TIM BELL IS VERY FAMILIAR.

I WORKED WITH HIM ACTUALLY WITH JERRY WHEN THEY WERE GETTING DIARRHEA, BUT SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS TRY TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING ON YOUR BEHALF.

SO WE'VE WORKED WITH JIM AND WITH BRIAN TO SAY, WHO ARE SOME OF THE LOCAL LENDERS THAT YOU NORMALLY WORK WITH THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS? WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE RACIAL NATIONAL PLAYERS THAT WE WORK WITH, AND WE WILL ACTUALLY GO OUT AND DO AN RFP TO BRING BACK RATES TERMS, ET CETERA, FROM THE VARIOUS LENDERS.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, SINCE WE'RE NOT A FINANCIAL ADVISOR, IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHICH, WHICH IS THE BEST DEAL AND INVESTMENTS ARE SIMPLICITY.

IF YOU BRIDES, WHERE THERE JUST TO DO HEAVY LIFTING, WE'RE BASING ON 15, 15 YEARS AGO.

THAT IS CORRECT.

YEP.

TRUE.

I COULD, UH, ADD TO THAT, THAT, UM, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR IS AWARE OF THIS.

UH, HE WILL BE AWAITING THE RETURNS OF, UH, WHAT THE RFP PER SE WOULD BRING BACK AS WELL AS OUR BOND COUNSEL AND OF COURSE, JIM AND HOUSE HERE.

SO, UH, WE WILL BE ACTUALLY GOING TO MARKET FOR THE FINANCING, NOT THE COMPANY THEY'RE JUST PUTTING TOGETHER THE RFP AND DOING SOME OF THE INITIAL WORKFORCE TO SEEK OUT WHAT THOSE BITS WOULD BE AND WHO WOULD SELL IT.

AND THEN OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR IN OUR OWN HOUSE, PEOPLE WILL KIND OF VERIFYING AND SEE IF, UM, IF IT'S, UM, UH, GOOD OR ADVISABLE, OF COURSE, AND, UM, THEN GET A DECISION TO THERE.

SO ONE THING ABOUT THE CITIZENS, AS YOU RECALL IT, THE ON, AND THEN IN THE, IN THE PROCESS OF THIS KIND OF FINANCING IS A SPECIAL PROVISION ALLOWED IN THE REVISED CODE, UH, WITH A CAPITAL LEASE THAT IT YOU'VE KNOWN WOULD BE FINANCING WOULD BE ISSUING TECHNICALLY A FINANCING.

IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST OUR, UH, CURRENT CASES YOU CAN GET WITH THE BIG SINCE THIS IS WHAT WE RETURN.

SO I GET OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS IS, IS WITH THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.

CAN YOU GIVE US ADDITIONAL DETAILS AND WHY IT DOESN'T GO THE ANSWER WRONG CAPACITY, NOT DENYING, BUT LATER BEFORE WE, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN WE, WHEN WE GO TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL FINANCING OPTIONS, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL CERTAINLY INCLUDE, UH, THE, THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT FINANCING WOULD ENTAIL.

AND THEN COULD YOU REMIND US HOW IT CAN GET PAID? OH, SURE.

SO WE GET PAID AS A, UH, IF YOU WILL, AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OF THREE COMPONENTS.

NUMBER ONE IS WE'RE DOING THE ENGINEERING, IF YOU WILL.

SO A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A TRADITIONAL PROCESS, ALMOST LIKE A DESIGN BUILD PROCESS.

UH, WE'RE DOING THE ENGINEERING, THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT, UH, THERE'S UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A ONETIME, UH, REPORT OF THE SAVINGS.

WE'LL CALCULATE THOSE.

AND THEN WE, UH, THEN BASICALLY THE OVERHEAD PROFIT, THE REASON I ASKED YOU TO REMIND US, IS THAT BUILT INTO THAT TOTAL NUMBER? YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE TURKEYS.

AND THAT, AGAIN, WE WROTE THAT OUT WHEN YOU GIVE US ALL THE INFORMATION.

WE CAN DO IT.

UH, AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDE A COPY OF THE LEGISLATION TO ROB IN TERMS OF THE LEGISLATION WE'RE WORKING ON THAT BASICALLY SPEAKS TO THE DEBT, STEVE.

YEP.

AND I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT DAY, AS YOU RECALL, WE DID AN RFP TO IDENTIFY THIS FUND FOR THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT.

SO, UM, MULTIPLE LAYERS OF SEEKING OUT THE BEST ONE WAS QUALIFIED TO INCLUDING, UM, THE FINANCE.

WE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, JUST MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

THIS IS WHERE WE WERE IN THAT PROCESS.

TO YOUR BRINGING BACK TO FIRST, SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER, UM, IF WE APPROVE OR SUGGEST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE HAD NO, WAIT THAT 44,000 AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE NOW PAID THAT FEE BASED ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

SO THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN AUGUST, WHEN WE HAD THIS INITIAL DISCUSSION, THERE'S A PRICE TAG OF $44,000 THAT WAS OWED TO YOUR FIRM.

NOW, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION

[01:25:01]

AM I CORRECT? I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THAT WOULD BE ROLLED INTO PART OF OUR COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

IF WE SAY, OH, WE THINK WE CAN DO BETTER.

THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE ALREADY HAVE 40 WITH US.

CORRECT.

YOU KNOW, CAPITAL APPROVAL PLAY AS IT IS.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT COUNTS WHEN CAMPBELL WAS COMING.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAD THAT UNDER CONTROL.

UM, ROB, THE US MOVING FORWARD, UM, POSSIBLY WITH THIS, DOES THIS INTERFERE WITH ANY OTHER AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH, ABOUT ALIGNING OR ANYTHING ELSE OF THAT NATURE? UM, UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE LAY, THEY KNOW THE, UH, THE AGREEMENT OF MIND, MAN LIGHTING IS FOR, UM, PUBLIC, UH, RIGHT AWAY STREET LIGHTING AND LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS.

SO, UH, THAT IS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, LIGHTING FIXTURES, ET CETERA, ARE, UH, THAT ARE SOLELY OWNED BY, UH, BY THE CITY, UH, IN, IN PUBLIC FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF THAT.

SO YEAH, IT WOULD NOT, IT WOULD NOT CONFLICT.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A COMPLETELY PERFECT, I WISH I HAD DUMBBELLS HERE FOR THIS NEXT QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO POSE IT TO YOU.

UM, AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY IN THIS MEETING, UH, THE MAYOR IS GOING TO, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RESOLUTION ON MONDAY AND MARY'S GOING TO DRAFT UP A LETTER ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL AND GET THAT IN FRONT OF HER STATE REPRESENTATIVE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL CARES ACT FUNDING.

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY COULD POSSIBLY, UM, BE PAID OUT UNDERNEATH THE, WOULD I BE CORRECT IN SOME OF THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL THINGS THAT IT IS, UH, IT IS POSSIBLE.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT THE, THE, THE, THE COST OF ABILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THIS PROGRAM ARE, IT WOULD BE HARD TO SEPARATE THAT OUT AND CALCULATE THAT ENERGY SAVINGS PER SE, INTO THE OVERALL ENERGY AUDIT.

UM, AND WHEN WE EVALUATED THAT WE SAW THAT WE HAD BASICALLY MORE THAN ENOUGH POTENTIAL COVERAGE IN THE AVAILABLE CARES FUNDING, UH, THAT WE REALLY WOULDN'T NEED TO PEEK INTO THIS PROJECT, UH, TO TRY TO CREATE THE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES OF THE CARE'S FUNDING.

BUT, BUT YES, THE AIR QUALITY THING I THINK WOULD LIKELY BE A, UM, AN INTERVIEW, SOME LIFT CONTROL SYSTEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT ARE COMPONENTS OF THAT.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS AT LEAST AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THAT SEPARATED OUT, BECAUSE IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET A LETTER AS WELL AS HARD BACK DOLLARS AND FINGERS IN FRONT OF OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, OR EVEN OUR SENATOR TO SAY THIS COMMUNITY STILL NEEDS LOCAL FUNDING, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF X, I THINK.

AND AGAIN, HYPOTHETICALLY, WE COULD TURN A $1.6 MILLION PROJECT INTO A $1 MILLION PROJECT.

UM, IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD AGAIN, HYPOTHETICALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT WHERE WE CAN SHOW THOSE REAL COSTS OF DOLLARS, WE CAN SHOW, YOU KNOW, THE AMORTIZATION OF THE COST SAVINGS OVER THE PERIOD OF TIMES.

I, I THINK THAT WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO MUCH LIKE THE FIXTURES THAT WE PREVIOUSLY PURCHASED, TOUCHLESS FIXTURES FOR THE MUSIC CENTER, THAT IF WE ENCUMBER AND EXPEND THIS COST FOR SAYING THE AIR QUALITY THING, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD APPLY TOWARDS, UH, THE IMPROVED FUNDING.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF BACKED UP TO A BACKSTOP OF TIMELINE REGARDING OUR RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY AND NOT HAVING ALL OF THOSE COSTS IN ENGINEERING SPECIFIED OUT A BIDDING IN ACTUAL TRUE COSTS YET.

UH, SO IF THERE'S ANOTHER ROUND, WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD EXTRACT THAT LINE ITEM, AIR PURIFICATION, OR AIR QUALITY AND INCLUDE THAT IN COSTS THAT WE HAVE ENCUMBERED FOR, UH, RELATED TO HEARSAY.

SO THE OPPORTUNITY IS CERTAINLY THERE.

UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO BACK OUT OF THIS PROJECT PER SE.

WE COULD UTILIZE IF ADDITIONAL AVAILABLE CARES FUNDING TO APPLY TOWARDS, WELL, HEY, WE'RE SPENDING THIS MONEY ON THIS PARTICULAR, I AM, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE CARE'S MONEY FOR THAT PORTION OF THE EXPENDITURE.

AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ACCOUNTING AND EXPENDITURES.

NO, I COMPLETELY AGREE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

AND, UM, I LIKE TO USE, UH, BRIAN'S TERMINOLOGY.

A SENSE OF MIND GETS USED QUITE A BIT OF A, YOU KNOW, GET THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.

BUT, UM, ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, UM, THAT WAS A TERM THAT MY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSTS TO ME THAT WE NEED TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

AND I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN DO THAT SINCE WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT A COLLABORATIVE,

[01:30:01]

YUP.

SO THAT'S THANK YOU.

HERE'S WHY I THINK MAYBE PART OF THAT MIGHT COME DOWN TO, UM, SO, SO I SAW IN THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE AIR QUALITY, UH, AND WE TALKED ABOUT EFFICIENCY.

SO I THINK IT, IF THERE WAS A HERITAGE TO BE SPLIT HERE, IT WOULD BE WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE UPGRADE IN THE AIR SYSTEM IS THE PURPOSE EFFICIENCY.

AND THE RESULT IS BETTER COOLING HERE.

IF THE I'M NOT SURE THAT FUNDS COVER BEING MORE EFFICIENT, THEY PROBABLY DO COVER PATHOGENS AND AIR QUALITY, OR IS THE PURPOSE OF THE UPGRADES, THE AIR QUALITY AND THE BENEFIT IS EFFICIENCY.

SO THEY GET, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT PROJECT IS, MIGHT DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE FUNDS MIGHT QUALIFY FOR WHATEVER, WHATEVER KIND OF REIMBURSEMENT.

UH, SO THEN I D I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD YOU CLARIFY ONE OR THE OTHER, JUST BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM WERE LISTED IN THE PRESENTATION.

YEAH, SO WE, I WOULD PUT IT AS IT'S ALL DONE IN THE, IN THE, UH, TO DRIVE DOWN ENERGY COSTS, BUT THE FILTRATION REALLY WAS TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THE OTHER WORK, WHY NOT MAKE THE INVESTMENT, WHICH IS A GOOD, GOOD INVESTMENT TO CLEAN THE AIR.

IT'S GONNA MAKE THE EQUIPMENT RUN BETTER, BUT ALSO YOU COULD, IF YOU CAN REDUCE PATHOGENS AND ALLERGENS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT ARE IN THE AIR, UH, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT WHILE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE ON SITE.

SO THE PURPOSE, AND THEN I'LL BE WRITTEN WITH YOUR SHAWL FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT AS A LINE ITEM, IF THE PURPOSE IS REDUCING PATHOGENS, BETTER, ERIC WHOLLY, THAT WOULD SEEM TO ME TO MATCH BETTER FOR CARE RELIEF.

THEN WE JUST, WE WANT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT, THEIR AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM.

I KNOW THAT.

PERFECT, GREAT POINT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.

SO DO WE NEED ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MONDAY AT THIS POINT, OR WE'RE JUST WAITING, THIS IS INFORMATIONAL.

I'M TONY STANDING CORRECTLY, UH, ROB, THIS IS FOR INFORMATION UPDATE, AS WE INDICATED, WE WOULDN'T TRIP.

THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT BENCHMARK IN THE PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT.

AND THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE, UM, AS ILLUSTRATED IN REGARDING FINAL ENGINEERING AND BRINGING THAT FINANCING PIECE TO BREAK THOSE LINE ITEMS DOWN.

SO WE'LL BRING THAT BACK.

AND TONY HAS THESE LAST THREE ITEMS, THREE

[ Liquor Permit #7108800 - Sinsations - 5478 Brandt Pike]

ITEMS LIKE A PERMIT NUMBER SEVEN ONE ZERO ZERO ZERO FOUR, SENSATIONS AND 54 70.

SO, UM, THIS IS THE MIRROR JUST STATED AS FOR A LIQUOR PERMIT TRANSFER FOR THE LOCATION, 54 78 GRAND PIPE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN OPERATING AS A SNEAKY D'S ESTABLISHMENT, AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO TRANSFER THEIR LIQUOR PERMIT TO A NEW LICENSE HOLDER.

UM, COUNSELEE SUIT POCKET, DOING BUSINESS AS SENSATIONS.

WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT TYPE OF OPERATION THAT IS.

IT SOUNDS A LITTLE SENSATIONAL, UM, BUT, UH, UH, THEY WILL, THE NEWEST STABLISH FROM AN AFRICA THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING CONSERVATIVE DENTAL OCCUPANCY.

THAT WOULD BE, UH, EVALUATED FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

BUT IN REVIEW, UH, THE NEW, UH, PROPOSED LICENSE HOLDER, UH, TO THE FIRE DIVISION POLICE DIVISION DID REVIEW THAT PERSON'S BAD RATHER THAN SOLID REASON TO MAKE UP THE OPTIONS, UH, TO THE TRANSFER OF THE SWEATER.

SO AT THIS TIME WE'D BE ASKING COUNCIL TO HAVE A MOTION ON THE AGENDA.

MY DAY TWO, FOR ME TO RESPOND TO THE IOT STUFF, LIKE A HUGE WALL OF OBJECTIONS, TONY, REAL QUICK, YOU JUST, FROM THE PROCESS OF OPENING AN OPERATING BUSINESS, THERE ARE STILL OTHER STEPS AND PROCESSES.

THIS BUSINESS HAS TO GO THROUGH EVEN ONCE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE IS, IF THE STATE APPROVES THAT TRANSFERRING, RIGHT? YEAH.

THIS BUSINESS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRE CODE COMPLIANT.

THEY'RE VERY OPEN.

THEY'RE OPEN NOW IT'S JUST A CHANGE.

SO IT'S JUST THE CHANGE OF NAMES IN THIS THING.

SO THEY'RE OPERATING OUT ON THE MOVE.

THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE LIQUOR PERMIT TRANSFERRED FROM, FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER.

WELL, BEING UNDER A NEW LIQUOR FROM THAT HALLWAY IN YOUR NAME.

AND EVERYTHING WAS PUT ON HOLD WITH KOBE AND AROUND TO THAT.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN BEFORE WE FILE, WE DO IN MY OFFICE, FILED A LAWSUIT TO CLOSE DOWN SNEAKY DEEDS

[01:35:01]

AND NOT REALLY SURE.

I REMEMBER A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME PERMANENT THERE THOUGH.

LIKE FOR ME, THIS PERSON'S NAME, I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T REMEMBER RECALL WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

OTHER, THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE AND A DAUGHTER OR A FAMILY MEMBER THAT WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT PERMIT FOR THE DISTRIBUTOR ESTABLISHMENT.

AND I THINK WE HAD SOME COMP YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK IT WAS RIGHT AROUND THE TIME THAT WE, THEN SHE KIND OF SHUT HER DOWN, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER COUNCIL ACTING FAVORABLY ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR TRANSFER, BUT NOW THIS IS NOW EVEN SOMEBODY DIFFERENT THAT'S APPLYING FOR THAT PERMIT.

EXISTING PERMIT IS DAN AMUSEMENTS, LLC, WHO WAS DOING BUSINESS ASKING.

SO, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO TRANSFER IT TO A KELSEY SUPERMARKET, UH, DOING BUSINESS AS SENSATIONS AT THE SAME.

I RECALL THERE WAS SOMETHING TO, SO BASICALLY I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, I WOULD SAY I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID AND ADDITIONALLY, MAYBE WE CAN GO THROUGH THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S AND POOL SOME LLC INFORMATION.

UM, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THIS IS AN ISSUE AROUND, I DO BELIEVE THESE INDIVIDUALS AREN'T ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH ONE ANOTHER, AND WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO THE SAME SITUATION THAT WE AS A COUNCIL HAD DISCUSSED, UM, PREVIOUSLY, UM, WELL, I'M NOT OKAY WITH IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

WELL SAY THAT, UH, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP THIS.

WE CAN EXPRESS AN OBJECTION TO REQUEST A HEARING IS THE PROCESS YOU CAN CHOOSE TO, UH, GO FORWARD WITH SOMETHING.

UH, I ALSO WON'T KNOW THAT, UH, IN ORDER TO REQUEST A PUBLIC HEARING, OUR RESPONSE MUST BE POSTMARKED NO LATER THAN OCTOBER 5TH, OR THEY'LL JUST PROCEED AS REQUESTED MR. SHAW.

I WAS GONNA SAY, MR. MARYLIN IF WE NEED TO ACTION, IF YOU'RE ASKING THIS COUNCIL, IN MY OPINION, FOR ACTUAL MONDAY AS WHAT COUNSELOR, I SAID, WE GO AHEAD AND REQUEST A PUBLIC AREA AND IT, THIS TIME TO GAIN THE VISUAL RESEARCH AND MAKE THEM, BUT THEN WE'LL NOTICE THAT WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO I THINK, UH, WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS.

THE SEE, SINCE WE HAVE UNTIL, WELL, THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH ACCOUNT THAT WE COULD PUT THE MOTION AFTER THIS COUNSELING WOULD BE BEYOND THE DATE, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE OUR OBJECTION BE KNOWN AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING COME MONDAY.

CORRECT? WELL, THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN BEING THAT THE MOTION ON MONDAY WOULD BE TO DIRECT ME TO RESPOND TO MY REQUEST.

THAT'S ALL BEFORE, IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTIONS FROM COUNSEL.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

MAYBE JENNY NEXT UP IS, I DON'T REMEMBER.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK SO.

BECAUSE FROM THOSE ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS, IT'S SO OPERATING UNDER THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESSES BEFORE.

SO REALLY WE ONLY GET INTO A MATTERS OF WHAT TYPES OF BUSINESSES, IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, WE HAVE VERY LIMITED SPELLINGS TO QUESTION BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE ALL WE HAVE TO DO, WE CAN OBJECT, BUT WE CAN'T GET INTO ALL THE DETAILS.

WE CAN REQUEST THE PUBLIC HERE.

I PULLED UP THE CERTIFICATE ON ZONING COMPLIANCE APPLICATION AND IT'S KODAKS AS THEY MAY MOTHER, UM, BUSINESS MAKE SOME AT, FOR A RETAIL, UH, BUSINESS.

AND SO, I MEAN THAT SHOPPING CENTER IT'S JUST RETAIL.

SO THAT FITS WITHIN THE ZONING AND YES, IT'S THAT

[01:40:01]

AS POCKET.

THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SUBMIT TO THE CITY.

SOME SHEETS OF CODEX KOD, A K.

AND I DO REMEMBER WHOEVER WOULD THIS MATTER, NOT THE NAME OF THE WOMAN.

I DON'T BELIEVE WAS MS. PUCKETT.

UH, KODAK'S WAS THE NAME OF THE LARGER LLC OR THE LARGER ENTITY THAT WAS LOOKING FOR THE LIQUOR TRANSFER SIX MONTHS AGO? I DO REMEMBER.

I REMEMBER BEING CODEX BECAUSE WHEN ALL THAT WAS GOING ON, WE SAW INFORMATION, THEY WERE ON FACEBOOK AND STUFF THEY WERE DOING THERE AND THAT CODEX WASN'T LISTED AND I BELIEVE IT WAS PREVIOUS, WAS IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE IN THEIR FAMILY WHERE HE WAS TRYING TO GET THE, UH, I'M TRYING GET THAT UNDER THAT NAME, A DIRECT COUNSEL TO AN EMAIL FROM APRIL 10TH OF 2020, UM, WHERE THE NAME PUCKETT, UH, DOES COME INTO PLAY ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THAT.

SO I HAVEN'T READ THROUGH IT HERE.

UM, MIGHT BE GOOD FOR THE FUTURE TOO OR SOMETHING.

WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SUBJECT OCCUPANCY THAT WAS AS WELL AS THIS EMAIL AND ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COMPILED FOR ALL COUNCIL'S REVIEW.

MS. BAKER, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD SO UP OR WAS THAT FROM BEFORE? OKAY, SO TONY ARE WE, IS THAT THIRD SPOT? WE'LL HAVE A QUESTION TOO.

AND JARED, YOU'RE TOUCHING, YOU'RE BRINGING UP TOO, BECAUSE I JUST REMEMBER THAT JUST SEEMS ODD TO APPRECIATE THAT.

IS NUMBER THREE, J WHICH IS IMPORTANT COMMISSIONER.

SO NEXT UP

[ Board and Commission Appointments]

ITEM THREE K, WHICH IS CITY CODE SEVEN FIVE ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE.

WE JUST HAVE ONE COMMISSION FOR APPOINTMENTS TO SEE THING.

AND THAT'S OUR ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION.

UH, YOU MAY RECALL THAT COUNCIL, UH, APPOINTED THE TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION, MR. OTTO AND MR. RABBIT, A PREVIOUS MEETING.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE A POSTING OUT FOUR, FIVE ADDITIONAL VACANCIES ON THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION FOR CITIZEN ADVOCATES.

UM, WE DID RECEIVE SEVEN APPLICATIONS, UH, MR. OTTER, MR. SHAW, MR. WEBB ASSISTED ME IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS OF THESE 70 APPLICANTS.

UM, WE DO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OF FIVE INDIVIDUALS TO A POINT TO THESE VACANCIES.

THOSE INCLUDE, UH, JIM ELLIS, JONATHAN FANNIN, JOSEPH HENDRIX, BRIAN KITCHEN, AND JERRY WAMSLEY.

AND THAT WOULD BE TO A TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30TH, 2021, CONSISTENT WITH THE ONES, THE APPOINTMENT DATES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, WE HAVE OBTAINED, UM, FOUR OF THE BACKGROUND CHECKS, UH, BACK THERE WERE, REMEMBER ISSUES REPORTED BY HUMAN RESOURCES, UM, MR. FAN, AND, UH, HE HAS NOT RETURNED HIS RELEASE TO DO THE BACKGROUND CHECK.

SO, UH, LAUREN RECEDED THAT THE PROCESSING OF THAT BEFORE MONDAY, I WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE HIM FROM THE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPOINTMENT LAST WEEK AND GET THAT , I'VE SENT HIM MACY FOR FOR APPOINTMENT ON MONDAY, BUT WE WOULD ASK THEM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OBJECTIONS? ANY, OKAY, THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS

[ City Code - Supplement 5 - Adopting Ordinance]

THIS IS JUST THE STANDARD LEGISLATION TO A TOP PAGE OF THE CITY CODE, A SUPPLEMENT, WHICH IS THE UPDATES TO THE CODE THAT I'VE HEARD OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

THIS IS SUPPLEMENT FIVE FOR THE PERIOD OF FEBRUARY 11TH, 2023, AUGUST 10TH, 2020.

THE CITY CHARTER DOES REQUIRE, UH, THAT I'VE MADE A LEGAL NOTICE OF THIS ORDINANCE, UM, BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND ADVERTISING IN A NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE.

UM, SO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS FOR A FIRST READING, UM, ON THE AGENDA ON MONDAY, AND THEN, UH, IT COULD BE ASKED TO RECITE READING.

OF THE MEETING, YOU SEEM LIKE MORE EVERY TIME.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

THERE WAS JUST TWO QUICK THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION REAL QUICK.

I THOUGHT, WELL, GENTLEMEN, AFTER ROSS HAS A REPORT AT THE END

[01:45:01]

SO WE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO , WHATEVER WAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PLANNING ON CHURCH, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER 31ST STREET.

THAT WAS THE TIME FROM FIVE TO SEVEN, EIGHT, SIX DAYS.

SO, UH, SO THAT IS HAPPENING.

AND I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE AN ENTITY, EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT IT, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

THE SAME AS, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS, HAS ALWAYS DONE ON ALL THINGS.

COVID I GUESS THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRUSTING ALLOWING OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE DECISIONS ON, ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM AND THEIR, AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR KIDS.

SO FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GET OUT AND ENJOY A BIGGER SITE TRIP THE TREE, PLEASE DO, UH, I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO JUST AS A COUNCIL, WE WILL, IF WE COULD SOMEHOW MAYBE GET SOME, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, THE THINGS WE COULD MENTION, A RECOMMEND FOR PEOPLE TO BE SAFER, EMMANUEL, NOT REALLY SOCIAL DISTANCING WAY OR TRICK OR TREATING, BUT IN TERMS OF THE WAY CANDIES PASS OUT HAND, IF WE COULD JUST MAYBE LIST SOME BEST PRACTICES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND OUR WEBSITE.

AND JUST SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW EVERYONE THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, THERE'S STILL SOME BEST PRACTICES THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD MAKE YOU STAY AT YOUR DOORSTEP AND, YOU KNOW, THROW CANDY, MADE BASKETS, WHATEVER.

BUT, UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO WRITE ON, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH BEGGAR'S NIGHT, THAT'S NOT CANCELED.

I KNOW SOME OTHER AREAS HAVE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO FOR THOSE THINGS.

AND IT MAKES UP, I JUST WANT TO MENTION AGAIN FOR EVERYONE THAT HE BROUGHT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF BECOME A REALLY NEAT THING THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UM, WE'VE KIND OF, I SAID, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'VE KIND OF PARTNERED WITH MS. DAVIDSON AND PEOPLE DECORATE THEIR HOUSES.

THEY'VE COME HERE WITH HIM, THE AWARDS KIND OF WAY.

WE DO OUR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THE LAST I TALKED TO HER, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH, MAYBE 35 OR 36 ENTRIES NOW, WHICH IS MORE THAN WE'VE HAD A LOT MORE THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.

SO I THINK THAT JUST SHOWS TWO PEOPLE ARRANGES TO KIND OF GET BACK AND DO SOME THINGS.

THEY DON'T EVEN CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN.

CERTAINLY DESSERTS ARE HOLIDAYS, BUT THAT IS GOING ON.

IF YOU DO HAVE AN INTEREST IN DECORATING AND BEING INVOLVED IN THAT, UH, I KNOW THERE WERE PRIZES, UH, THE DAY WAS JUST PREPARED FOR THAT.

SO PLEASE, UH, GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM THROUGH YOUR FACEBOOK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER.

SO THAT THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY OTHER COMMENTS THAT I HAD JUST ABOUT THOSE STUDENTS.

SO I HAVE SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE WILL AFFORD ME JUST TO NOT HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S COVID RELATED.

IT IS A DISCUSSION THAT YOU AND I HAD ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO AND THE SUBJECT WAS ME COMING BACK TO CITY HALL.

AND COULD I ATTEND THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND YOU HAD GOT BACK WITH ME AND ABOUT THREE MEETINGS AGO I ATTENDED.

AND I KNOW I WAS THAT A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO BY MR. SHAW, MR. OTTO.

AND I WON'T LET HIM IN HERE TONIGHT.

AND THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THIS UP IS, AGAIN, I KNOW I DID AT THE FIRST MEETING, BUT I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, HOW SAFE A STAFF HAS MADE ME FEEL AND THE EFFORTS THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN PUT INTO ALL THIS, UH, I KNOW JERRY'S HERE TONIGHT.

YOU HAD THE MAJORITY OF STAFF HERE AND JUST STATE YOU SO MUCH.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF EFFORT WENT INTO WELCOMING ME BACK AND MY COLLEAGUES BACK IN AND I DO FEEL SAFE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WAS IT OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS IT MRS. BIRCH AND RICHARD.

SOME ALREADY.

WE'VE DONE SOME ALREADY AND YES, WE'RE DOING WHAT'S YOUR SHOP.

UH, IN THE FUTURE AND CONTINUING TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITIES.

I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND A CONGRATULATION, DONE SOME OUR CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY ACTION CITIZENS COMMITTEE.

UM, MAYBE THEIR FIRST MEETING, THE FIRST MEETING.

UM, IT WAS A VERY ENJOYABLE MEETING TO WATCH AND, UM, SOME ACTION CAME OUT OF THAT.

UM, I HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE VICE CHAIR ON SETTING UP A, SOME DIFFERENT, UM, VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, I WENT AS FAR AS TO, UM, KIND OF CREATE A LITTLE INFANT INFOMERCIAL, A YOUTUBE VIDEOS ABOUT A MINUTE LONG, UM, PRETTY BASIC, UH, GETTING THE INFORMATION FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND WE'RE THE LICENSE INFORMATION.

UM, SO, UH, I SENT THAT OVER TO THE, UM, THE VICE CHAIR AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING,

[01:50:01]

WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROPRIATELY, UM, JUST LISTED WAYS THAT PEOPLE COULD MENTION A LITTLE WEBSITE IF WE HAVE MS. BAKER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE EARLIER TODAY, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

WAS THERE ANYTHING, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE POST OFFICE, YOU GET THE CARD OR WE GET CARDS AND NEPHEW RICHARDS, CAROLYN, SHE WILL COME IN AND FILL OUT AND GET REGISTERED.

IF YOU COULD JUST MAKE SOME REMINDERS, YOU PUT THEM ON THE WEBSITE.

AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT ACTUALLY.

UM, I THINK AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, SO YEAH.

AND, UH, I KNOW CRS HAS PUT SOME STUFF OUT AND MORE PERSONAL WILL, UH, TRANSITION FROM CENSUS INTO DEVOTING FOR THAT TO BE FRONT AND CENTER.

WHAT ON ONSETS US? IT WAS A, I THINK WE'RE, UM, NEAR, UM, ALMOST 74.

WE'RE A NICE 73 POINT SOMETHING PERCENT.

UH, THE LAST THAT I, UH, LAST TIME I CHECKED AND, UM, THE REPORT LAST WEEK WAS EXTENDED SENTENCE.

I'LL MAKE OKAY.

MAYBE I GOT MY NUMBERS MIXED UP, HANG ON.

IF IT WAS 77, THEY WERE AT 74 AND I'VE GOT 78, 77.3.

SO I GAVE MY NUMBERS BACKWARDS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ARE COMPETENT, EFFICIENT AGAIN, MR. I WOULD DECIDE TO ACTUALLY, MR. CAMPBELL'S COMMENTS.

I ALSO APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORTS TO BRING BACK SOME OLD, SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.