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WE'RE READY.

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ALL RIGHT.

[ AGENDA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road September 15, 2020 6:00 P.M. ]

I SHALL CALL A MEETING OF THE CITY OF UBERIZE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. HERE, MISS OFF, MS. THOMAS HERE, MRS. VARGO HERE.

MR. WALTON.

I HAVE NO OPENING REMARKS.

IS ANYONE ELSE ON THE COMMISSION SWEARING A WITNESSES.

I ANNOUNCED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.

SO I ASK EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT KNEE AND RESPOND.

I DO TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR BY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THROAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

SO HELP YOU GOD, PLEASE BE SEATED.

WE HAVE NO PENDING BUSINESS.

OUR FIRST ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS THE FINAL PLAT.

THE APPLICANT CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, LLC IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT OF CARRIAGE TRAILS.

WINDBROOK SECTION THREE ZONING CASE 20 DASH 21.

MR. FOUL, KASEY.

THANK YOU.

AND GOOD EVENING.

UM, LOOKS LIKE THINGS MIGHT BE WORKING BETTER THIS TIME.

UH, OUR, UH, FIRST AND ONLY CASE TONIGHT IS FINAL PLATFORM.

WINDBROOK SECTION THREE PHASE ONE.

UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS BACK IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

UH, THAT WAS FOR SECTION THREE THAT, UH, INCLUDED PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.

THE DEVELOPER DECIDED TO SPLIT THIS INTO TWO PHASES AND, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, BEEN WORKING ON THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, OF THE PROJECT.

AND NOW THEY'RE TO THE POINT OF WANTING TO RECORD THE PLAT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO START SELLING THE LOTS.

THIS SAYS 26 PROPOSALS, SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS.

THEY DO MEET THE MINIMUM DIMENSIONAL AND AREA REQUIREMENTS OF THE, UH, 2005 BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN BACK WHEN WINDBROOK WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.

UM, AND THIS DOES HAVE DEDICATION OF THE STREETS, THE EASEMENTS FOR ALL THE UTILITIES THAT ARE SOME OFFSITE UTILITIES WITH THIS, UH, THAT, UH, GO INTO THE FUTURE SECTIONS.

UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE, UM, THE FAR SOUTH EAST LOT, THE ONE THAT IS NEXT TO THE EXISTING LAW, THREE 28, UM, THAT ONE HAS A DIFFERENT SIDE YARD SETBACK.

THEN THE REST OF THEM, THAT ONE MATCHES THE LOCK NEXT TO IT WITH A COMBINED 15 FOOT SIDE YARD.

UH, SO MINIMUM OF FIVE, A TOTAL OF 15 BETWEEN BUILDINGS, ALL OF THE REST OF THE LOTS HAVE THE FIVE FOOT SIDE YARDS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER CONDITION THAT WAS FROM BACK FROM THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THAT THE, UH, THE END OF BUTTERCUP DRIVE SHALL HAVE A PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY TURNAROUNDS.

AND THAT'S A STANDARD PLANTS THAT, UH, IT IS A PHASE ONE OF SECTION THREE, READY TO MOVE FORWARD, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I DID SEE THAT, UH, MR. CONAWAY IS ON THE CALL AS WELL.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? JUST ONE QUICK ONE, I GUESS TWO, ONE, ONE, THEN ONE FOLLOWUP, I GUESS THE ONES ON WINDBROOK DRIVE THAT BACK TO JASMINE DRIVE ANY ARE THE REAR SETBACKS, THE OLD BLOTS AND THE NEW LOCKS, UH, THE A 30 FOOT REAR YARD.

UM, I BELIEVE THE OTHER ONES I BELIEVE WERE 30 FOOT AND THE DIFFERENCE OF SETBACKS IS JUST THE SIDE DOOR.

AND I REMEMBER ALSO WHEN WE HAD THE ORIGINAL MEETING, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE THE PARK.

WE HAVE ANYTHING WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON THEIR SPENDING, SIR.

UM, THE EXISTING PRIVATE PART FOR PHASE ONE, THERE'S NOTHING NEW TO REPORT THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH JUST BEING, THERE WAS A LOT OF FOLLOWUP AFTER THAT.

UM, THE PLAN WITH THE NEIGHBORS, ALL THE QUESTIONS I BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM QUITE A BIT.

AND THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION SEEMS SATISFIED, UH, HOW THE DEVELOPMENT WAS SET.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CRAP? WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT,

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KEN TONAWANDA HERE? I'LL BE GLAD TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, NOTHING ELSE REALLY TO SAY ABOUT THE PLATT'S GOT, GOT EVERYTHING COVERED FOR US NORMAL.

UH, WE'VE GOT THIS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THESE ARE, UH, DR.

HORTON LOTS UP IN WINDBROOK AND THEY'VE PRETTY WELL SOLD THROUGH THE TWO STREETS THAT ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA.

AND THEY'RE ANXIOUS TO GET IN HERE THOUGH.

UH, WE'VE HAD GOOD SALES AND CARRIAGE TRAILS CONTINUING, UH, ADA LOTS SO FAR THIS YEAR, UH, HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU, WE HAD MENTIONED THAT WE THOUGHT MAYBE WE'D SEE A SLOW DOWN.

SO WE PULLED BACK A LITTLE BIT, UH, THAT HASN'T REALLY HAPPENED.

SALES HAVE STAYED PRETTY STRONG.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THIS PLANTED AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE ARTWORK TO START BUILDING IN HERE.

I BELIEVE THE MYLAR IS THERE, IS THAT CORRECT, SCOTT? UH, YES, WE DID RECEIVE IT TODAY.

UH, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT SIGN THIS EVENING, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

W W WE'RE ALL REMOTE.

SO, UH, MR. WALTON WOULD HAVE TO SIGN IT SOMETIMES, COME IN AND SIGN IT LATER.

THIS WELL, SHE'S I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

SORRY.

UM, JAN VARGO UH, CAN YOU TELL ME IF THIS PARTICULAR PLAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE THE CLUSTER MAILBOXES OR WILL THEY BE AT THE PROPERTY? UH, THERE ARE NO MORE PROPERTY DELIVERIES AT ALL, SO, WOW.

CAN YOU TELL ME, SHOW ME WHERE THE MAILBOX IS? WE'LL BE OKAY.

UH, I CANNOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, JAN.

UH, I COULD GET IT SENT BACK TO SCOTT AND JOHN, WHERE WE HAVE A MAPPED OUT.

IS THERE A CONCERN ABOUT WHERE WE'RE PLACING THEM? WELL, NO CONCERN BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WORKED OUT WITH THE POST OFFICE ACTUALLY.

SO I TAKE A, I TAKE A PRELIMINARY PLAT MAP MEETING WITH THE POST OFFICE, UH, LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE CVS AS THEY ARE CALLED, UH, DETERMINE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE PLACED SO THAT THERE'S EQUAL AS EQUAL AS POSSIBLE, UH, DISTANCING, AND THEN HAVE THE POST OFFICE SIGN OFF ON IT.

SO FOR INSTANCE, DOWN IN SECTION SIX, PHASE ONE, WE POURED TWO ALBUM TODAY.

UH, SO THAT WHAT WE DO IS POUR THE PAN, MOUNT THE BOX, CALL THE POST OFFICE AND TURN THE KEYS OVER TO THEM.

THEY HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER IT.

WELL, I GUESS I'M JUST A LITTLE, UH, CONFUSED AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE VACANT LOT OR THE VACANT LAND THERE TO DO IT.

SO AT WHAT POINT DO YOU PLAN WHERE YOU WILL HAVE THOSE BOXES PUT? THEY AREN'T PUT ON PRIVATE LIGHTS ALL DAY.

UH, SO DOWN IN SECTION SIX, ONE, WE PUT THEM ON GREENSPACE LOTS OR SIDE YARDS THOUGH, WHICH SIDE YARDS HAVE KIND OF BEEN THE EASIEST PLACE TO PUT THEM WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE SPACING, THE WAY WE HAVE THEM HERE, I'M JUST NOT, I'M NOT POSITIVE WHERE WE HAVE THEM SPACED OUT HERE IN THIS PHASE.

AND I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME THIS EVENING.

AND IF THEY'RE ALL PUT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, SO THEY'RE ALL ON THE PRIVATE AND THEY'RE NOT IN PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THEY SCOUTING, I QUESTION ON THAT, I GUESS, IS THERE SOMETHING IN OUR CODE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THEN SINCE ALL OF THE NEW STUFF IS ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THESE THAT LIKE I, FOR ONE WOULD BE KIND OF UPSET IF I AGREED TO MAKE A PURCHASE ON A LOT AND THEN FOUND OUT AFTER THE FACT THAT MY LOT WAS THE LOT THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE THESE BOXES THERE, EVEN IF IT IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT'S ALSO THE, THE POINT OF TRAFFIC IN THERE.

SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS THERE AHEAD OF TIME IN THE FUTURE? UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, I CAN REACH OUT TO THE, UH, THE POSTMASTER AND WORK WITH THEM ON A SET OF GUIDELINES TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EVERYBODY'S UP FRONT WITH IT.

SO, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT I'LL, I'LL GET AHOLD OF THEM AND TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO THE CODE OR JUST REFERENCE POSTMASTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'D BE HIGHER BECAUSE THESE ARE 70 FOOT LOTS.

RIGHT.

AND SO, YES, THESE ARE THE PRICIER LOTS.

AND THEN IF I CHANCE IF I HAPPENED TO PICK A LOT THAT HAD A LOT PREMIUM ON TOP OF THAT, AND THEN YOU HAPPEN TO SLAP THOSE BOXES ON MY LOT AFTER I WAS KIND OF ALREADY BOUGHT IN, I WOULD NOT BE VERY HAPPY.

SO EXACTLY.

AND THE TRAFFIC.

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OKAY.

WELL, BELIEVE ME, WE DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.

I FOUGHT IT.

I WAS THE ONLY DEVELOPER IN OHIO, SUPPOSEDLY, ACCORDING TO THE TIP CITY POST OFFICE, THEY GOT A VARIANCE BECAUSE, UH, IN SCOTLAND YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS, WE DEVELOPED, WE DESIGNED SO FAR OUT IN ADVANCE BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE PAY.

SO WE SELL A LOT THAT WE HAD MORE DEVELOPMENT DESIGNED THAN ANYBODY ELSE DID IN THE POST OFFICE, OUT OF CINCINNATI, GAVE US A VARIANCE FOR ALL OF LAST YEAR, BUT EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING ELSE COMING THROUGH, THEY EXPECT US TO HAVE IT COVERED.

AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO, I MEAN, MOVING FORWARD, START WITH THE END IN MIND KNOWING THAT, I MEAN, CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE TALKED BEFORE, WE'RE THROWING HOUSE AFTER HOUSE, WE KNEW EVENTUALLY WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF BUDGET LAND FOR THESE BOXES OR DESIGN, INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE DESIGN AND, AND I DON'T REMEMBER.

AND CAN YOU MAKE CORRECT ME? IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY'RE SHOWN ON THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD SHOW UP ON A PLANT.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE, THEY'D ACTUALLY BE WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE UTILITIES SOMEWHERE.

UH, SO THEY WOULDN'T SHOW AS A SEPARATE WRITING ON A PLAT.

UH, I'M SURE THAT WE HAVE THEM LAID OUT ALREADY.

CAUSE I HAD TO HAD IT REVIEWED BY THE POST OFFICE ON I'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE WE HAVE THEM AND GET IT OVER TO SCOTT.

SO HE HAS THE INFORMATION, THEY MAY BE ON THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ALREADY.

SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF ME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, MR. GANNAWAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT, LLC FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FINAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR SECTION THREE PHASE ONE OF THE WINDBROOK DEVELOPMENT ZONING CASE 20 DASH 21 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF MEMORANDUM DATED SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2020, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TO JAN VARGO MOVE FOR APPROVAL BY MISS FARGO'S THEIR SECOND CHERYL THOMAS WILL.

SECOND.

IT IS THOMAS SECOND.

UH, SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. JEFFREYS.

YES.

MS. THOMAS.

YES.

MR. MARGO.

YES.

MR. WALTON.

YES.

MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ZERO WHAT'S NEXT PER THE APPLICANT.

THE NEXT IS GET THE SIGNATURES AND BE READY TO RECORD.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO ACTUALLY, TERRY, ONE SECOND.

UH, THE, THE CBU IS, I JUST LOOKED WHILE YOU GUYS WERE VOTING.

THE CVS ARE NOT IN THIS SECTION.

THEY ARE SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST OF THE UPPER ROAD.

SO THEY FALL ON A LOT LINE IN THE VERY, IN THE NEXT TWO LOSS.

THEY FALL BETWEEN TWO LONG LINES.

SO IT'S A TWO GANG BOX, JUST LIKE WE PUT IN AT WINDBROOK OVER ON CENTER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UNDER ADDITIONAL, WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL BUSINESS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES FOR AUGUST 11TH, 2020, WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, WE WILL PASS.

THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS.

WE'LL PASS THOSE MINUTES REPORTS IN CALENDAR REVIEW, MR. BELK ALFIE, AND OUR NEXT MEETING.

WE HAVE A REZONING, UH, FOR THE, UH, CORNER OF TAYLORSVILLE AND OLD TROY PIKE.

THAT IS FOR A NEW VALVOLINE, UM, OIL CHANGE FACILITY, UM, WHERE THE, UH, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING IS THERE.

UH, THEN WE HAVE A MAJOR CHANGE FOR THE DANBERRY CINEMA SITES.

THERE IS A, UH, STORAGE UNIT COMPANY THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TEAR THAT BUILDING DOWN AND CREATE A STORAGE FACILITY.

UM, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THE ENTIRE PARCEL FOR THE DANBERRY.

YES.

YES.

THAT'S THE PROPOSAL.

YES.

THEN THERE'S A MINOR CHANGE FOR THE SULFUR GROVE SHOPPING CENTER NEXT TO WALMART, THE END CAP.

THEY'D LIKE TO ADD A DRIVE THROUGH LANE TO THAT.

UM, THEY DO NOT, OR THEY HAVE NOT TOLD US OF A TRUE END USER YET, BUT THEY ARE, UH, UH, HAVE SET UP A DESIGN AND WOULD LIKE TO SET THAT UP FOR A DRIVE THROUGH.

SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS AT THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY, GREAT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO BRING BEFORE THE COMMISSION?

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I HAVE A QUESTION ALWAYS.

I'M SORRY.

UH, SCOTT, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE OLD OF FIFTH, THIRD BANK THAT AT ONE TIME, I THINK THAT WE SAID THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DAYCARE CENTER TO GO IN THERE AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NO MOVEMENT THERE IS THAT BELONG.

UM, THE FIFTH, THIRD OUT IN FRONT OF WALMARTS THAT CAME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN DECEMBER OR NOVEMBER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR A BEAUTY COLLEGE AND THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE THAT, BUT THEY DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, ONE OF THE, UH, THE MAIN REASONS WAS THE TAXES.

SO, SO I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING SINCE ON THAT PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU ALL FOR, UM, COMING IN.

YEAH, WE STAY IN A DRAWER.

THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO BRING BEFORE US IF YOU WANT TO DO TACO? UM, NO, NOT, NOT, UH, NOT AT THE MEETING TONIGHT NOW.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

CAN I GET BY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Speech-to-Text.