* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call:] [00:00:04] OKAY, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. TODAY IS JUNE 2ND, 2020. WE'RE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT 6:00 PM. UH, THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER. AND MR. ROGERS, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? MR. SHAW HERE, MS. BAKER HERE, MR. CAMPBELL. HERE. THIS IS BIRCH HERE. MR. OTTO HERE. MR. LYONS, MR. HILL HERE. MR. WEBB HERE, MAYOR GORE HERE. YEAH, REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S, SINCE WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS WHO ARE JOINING BY VIDEO CONFERENCE, SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER YOU'RE SPEAKING, UH, SO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS BE SURE THAT YOUR MICROPHONES ARE TURNED ON AND PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN ALL HEAR. AND, UH, ANYONE STAFF MEMBERS WHO HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING, PLEASE JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE SPEAKING REAL CLEAR INTO THE MICROPHONE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN HEAR IT. LOOKS LIKE MR. LYONS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE MICROPHONE. JUST HOLD THE BUTTON UNTIL IT COME. YOU HOLD IT DOWN FOR AWHILE AND IT'LL TURN GREEN. OKAY, PERFECT. SO, UH, APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COOPERATION WITH THAT. UH, SO IT'S A GREAT, FEEDBACK'S GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOUR SMILING FACES IN PERSON. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE MAKING ACCOMMODATIONS TO COME AND, UM, CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, UM, MR. WEBER, MRS. BURGESS DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE THROUGH, UH, AUDIO AND VIDEO CONFERENCE. SO, UH, NO ISSUES THERE. [2. Approval of Minutes:] ITEM NUMBER TWO IS OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND ITEM TWO A IS OUR MAY 5TH, 2020 MINUTES. UH, IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THOSE MINUTES, THEY WILL SEE IT AS APPROVED. ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, CORRECTIONS, OKAY. HEARING NONE. THOSE WITH STANDARDS APPROVED NEXT UP IS OUR WORK SESSION, TOPICS OF DISCUSSION AND ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS OUR NUMBER THREE, ITEM THREE [ City Manager Report] EIGHT ON THE AGENDA IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORT. MR. SCHOMER, IF YOU WOULD GOOD EVENING, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE THAT I WANT TO, I WAS HOPING THIS WOULD WORK HERE, FIRST OF ALL, BUT APPARENTLY THE MOUSE IS NOT OUT. THERE WE GO. I SAW IT A SECOND AGO. YEAH. I THINK I'M JUST TOO FAR AWAY. WANTED TO JUST SHOW RULES. SO THERE IS OUR, UH, AQUATIC CENTER TODAY. UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE A VERY BRIEF REPORT THAT, UH, WE OPENED YESTERDAY RESIDENTS ONLY ON MONDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS, UH, AND THE FIRST HOUR OF THE DAY GATES OPEN AT NOON FOR RESIDENTS, UH, TODAY, UM, FULL LONG LINE OF PEOPLE. AND, UH, THAT'S NOT THE IMPORTANT PART. THE IMPORTANT PART IS, IS THE TRUE REASON AND SPIRIT THAT, WHICH THIS COMMUNITY HAS FOCUSED ON, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN OUT AND ABOUT GET OUT AND ABOUT AND SOCIALIZE. UH, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M QUITE PROUD ABOUT IS TO, UH, TO REPORT THAT, UH, AS OUR STAFF AT THE YMCA, UH, LET ME GET TO THE RIGHT PICTURE HERE. OUR STAFF FOR THE YMCA HAS GONE THROUGH AND REMINDED PEOPLE TO KEEP DISTANCE, FOLLOW THE RULES. AND NORMALLY WHEN IT'S 90 DEGREES AND PEOPLE ARE STANDING IN LINES AND WAITING, THERE'S USUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF TEMPERAMENT INVOLVED AND, UH, UP UNTIL JUST ABOUT AN HOUR OR SO AGO. AND SPEAKING WITH THE STAFF, NOT ONE PERSON WAS UPSET, NOT ONE PERSON WAS UPSET STANDING IN LINE. NOT ONE PERSON WAS UPSET WHEN ASKED, HEY, WE NEED TO KEEP OUR DISTANCE, UH, VERY, VERY POLITE, VERY COMPLIANT, VERY EVERYTHING. UH, BECAUSE AS YOU SEE HERE, YOU WOULD HAVE NO INDICATION OR CLUE THAT JUST WITH DAYS AGO, WE HAD SOME UNREST WITHIN THIS REGION. YOU'VE GOT A DIVERSE MIX OF PEOPLE COMING FROM THE REGION TO FACILITY LIKE THIS, TO COME IN AND BE TOGETHER AT A FACILITY TO, UH, TO PLAY TOGETHER, UH, TO BE OUTSIDE, TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT THAT MESSAGE RIGHT THERE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL ONES THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON. UH, SO I THINK THAT THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD, SHOULD, UH, SHOULD APPLAUD ITSELF. UH, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM SHOULD APPLAUD STANDING BEHIND, FOCUSING ON BRINGING THE COMMUNITY BACK OUT TOGETHER FOR POSITIVE, COMMON TOGETHERNESS. AND, UH, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS JUST A VERY MUCH WORTHY OF CELEBRATION. SO, UM, UH, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE FOLLOWING WEEKS HAVE IN STORE FOR THE CONTINUED OPENING AND TOGETHERNESS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND, AND COMMUNITIES ALIKE THROUGHOUT THE REGION. SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU THAT'S TODAY. UH, OUR CAPACITY IS 500, 500 IN MAYBE 20 LEAVE AND OTHER 20 GET OUT AND PEOPLE WERE STANDING IN LINE WAITING TO GET IN. [00:05:01] UH, AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT ALL DAY LONG, UH, GATHERING MIX OF, UH, PEOPLE FROM WITHIN THE REGION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS JUST REALLY, REALLY GREAT. UM, I WANNA THANK THE YMCA. WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS COMING TOGETHER WITHIN THE LAST WEEK. THEY WORKED HARD FOR US UP UNTIL LATE HOURS OF EVENINGS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PREP OUR STAFF, DRILL OUR STAFF, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE LIFEGUARDS ARE PREPARED AND TRAINED, MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE LEVELS OF COMPLIANCE WERE MET FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WAS ONLINE WITH US UNTIL LATE FRIDAY EVENING AND PREPARATION FOR MONDAY MORNING. I WANT TO THANK MR. COOPER, ALL OF HIS STAFF WORKING WITH, UH, JOSH DALE AND ESPECIALLY CHRIS LINDEMANN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UH, AT THE YMCA TO BRING TOGETHER, UH, ALL OF THE NECESSARY COMPONENTS AND ELEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME READY FOR ALL THE SMILES ON THE FACES THAT WE SAW TODAY. SO I WANTED TO GIVE THAT REPORT BECAUSE I THINK THAT PROBABLY IS THE MOST THING TO PAY TRIBUTE TO A TWO FOR NOW. SO CAN I ASK THE QUESTION JUST REAL QUICK? SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THAT LINE IS PEOPLE WAITING TO GET IN AND THE POOL IS FULL ALREADY. THE POOL AT THAT TIME THAT I TOOK THAT PICTURE OF THE POOL WAS AT CAPACITY. AND THAT WAS A LINE OF PEOPLE WAITING TO GET IN. CORRECT. SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR TWO, TWO PEOPLE TO COME OUT, AS YOU, MAYBE YOU SAID 20, BUT EVERY SOMEBODY CAME OUT, THEN WE ALLOWED SOMEBODY FROM THAT LINE BACK IN, BUT THE POOL WAS ALREADY AT CAPACITY WHEN THAT PICTURE WAS TAKEN. THAT THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S A, IT'S A NICE FLOW OF PEOPLE, VERY WELL STRUCTURED, A THING HOT DAY TO DAY, UH, TOMORROW IS A RESONANCE AND PASS HOLDERS ONLY. SO THE CROWD WOULD LIKELY WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE REGION, UH, COMING IN, UH, AND MAINLY OUR COMMUNITY FOR CERTAIN, I'M SURE THAT'S, THAT'S A BULK, UH, BUT PEOPLE COME IN LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO COME TOGETHER AND, UH, THERE WAS, UH, JUST THE ENVIRONMENT OF WANTING TO BE OUTSIDE, HAVE SOME FUN. AND, UH, THAT, THAT WAS REALLY COOL. THAT WAS REALLY COOL. SO I WILL, UH, GO BACK TO THE CONFERENCE THERE. UH, THE, THE OTHER, A COUPLE OF UPDATES THAT I HAD, UH, ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO SHOW, UM, AND GIVE BRIEF UPDATES ON. AND SINCE RUSS IS IN THE ROOM, I WOULD JUST ASK HIM TO STEP UP. UH, IF YOU WOULD GIVE A, JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE WATER TOWER PAINTING, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ONGOING, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, OUR WATER SOFTENING PROJECT, WHICH IS ON, BUT THEY'RE FINALIZING THAT. AND, UM, UH, THE LAST THING WOULD BE THE, UH, BRENT PIKE, CHAMBERSBURG, UH, INTERSECTION. THERE STARTED TO BE SOME CONSTRUCTION THERE, BUT SINCE THE POLLS WON'T BE UNTIL AUGUST, I'LL LET YOU TOUCH ON THAT. IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST REAL QUICK. UH, THE FIRST ONE YOU SAID WAS THE WATER TOWER TO STONE HEARST. UH, THEY ARE CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE AFTER THEY PUT THE FIRST COAT ON, I SAID, LET'S PUT PART OF THE SECOND COAT ON, UH, LOOKING GOOD. UM, IT'S STILL BLUE, JUST LIKE THE OLD ONE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT COLOR. I THINK IT LOOKS A LITTLE NICER. SO THAT'S ALL GOING WELL, THEY SHOULD BE DONE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AT THE MOST. UH, THE NEXT PROJECT WAS THE WATER SOFTENING. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE WATER IS ALREADY BEING SOFTENED. UH, THE PLANET ITSELF IS FINALIZING A FEW ITEMS. UH, PAVING IS COMING UP AS PART OF THE PARKING LOT AROUND THE NEW BUILDING. A FEW OTHER COSMETIC ITEMS ARE BEING DONE. UH, MOST OF IT WILL BE DONE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS, I BELIEVE SO. UM, BY THE END OF THE MONTH, I THINK WE'LL BE PRETTY MUCH WRAPPING THAT WHOLE PROJECT UP. UM, THE OTHER ONE, I FORGET CHAMBERSBURG BRANDT, UH, THAT IS THE ONE WE ARE PUTTING MASTER ARMS UP AT THE INTERSECTION, UM, THAT GOT DELAYED DO PART OF IT DUE TO THE VIRUS PART OF A DUE TO THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THE POOLS AND THE MASTER ARMS, UH, THEY HAD, UH, BOUGHT OUT THE COMPANY WAS BOUGHT OUT AT, UH, I THINK IN MARCH THE SAME TIME THE VIRUS HAPPENED AND IT DELAYED THE, UH, FINISHING THE POLLS. AND WE WERE TOLD THAT BEGINNING OF AUGUST, THE POLLS WILL COME IN AND THEY WILL, AT THAT POINT START INSTALLING THEM. IN THE MEANTIME, THEY DID A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON SOME OF THE CONCRETE AROUND THERE, BUT WE KIND OF STOPPED THEM, UH, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO END UP, END UP TAKING SOME OF IT BACK OUT WHEN THE POLES WERE COMING IN. SO WE JUST STOPPED IT. UH, THEY MAY BE IN THERE ONCE IN A WHILE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK, BUT MOST OF IT'S BEING DELAYED FOR ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO, I GUESS. SO I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT ON IT. OKAY. YES, MAYOR YES. LINES. UM, RUSS WE'LL HAVE YOU JUST REAL QUICK THE PROJECT UPDATE ON, UM, THEY'LL FOUND ROAD NORTH OF TAYLORSVILLE. I THINK THERE'S A, UM, YEAH, WELL, WHAT, BUT THAT HAPPENED ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO, THE, UH, THE COUNTY INSPECTOR DROVE BY AND SAW THAT PART OF THE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT CULVERT. THAT'S A LARGE CRAIG AND A BIT OF AN UPDATE ON HOW MUCH LONGER IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED. YEAH. THE IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED PROBABLY UNTIL NOVEMBER, DECEMBER THE, UH, COUNTY, IT'S A TOTAL COUNTY PROJECT. THEY HAVE TO BID IT OUT, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DESIGN. SO THEY'RE DOING A DESIGN BUILD ON IT, WHICH SPEEDS IT UP. BUT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF GETTING TO THE POINT OF BIDDING IT [00:10:01] AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GET A CONTRACTOR AND THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE WHOLE COLOR WITH TWO LARGE CONCRETE BOX CULVERTS. AND BY THE TIME IT ORDER THOSE, THE TIME THAT WAIT TO GET THEM IN AND DESIGN AND EVERYTHING. YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE JUST TO GET STARTED. IT'LL BE TWO, TWO TO THREE MONTHS, AND THEN IT WILL BE TWO, THREE MONTHS CONSTRUCTION TIME ON ONE OTHER PROJECT, THE HARTSVILLE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT THAT WE DID FINISH THAT, UH, ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO AGO WITH PAVING, UH, THE REPLACED ALL THE WATER MAINS IN THAT WHOLE AREA AROUND COLRAIN. I THINK IT WASN'T TILBURY AREA IN HARTSVILLE, SO THAT WAS ALL COMPLETED TOO. SO THAT'S ALL NEW WATER, MAIN NEW FIREFIGHTERS. UH, ANOTHER PROJECT THAT YOU MIGHT SEE THAT IS BEGINNING AS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS BEGINNING TO CLEAR THE PAD FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SOME NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IN BELLE, PLAINE PARK, UH, SPEAKING OF, UM, BELL FOUNTAIN, BUT BELL PLAYING CLOSE ENOUGH, UH, OFF OF BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD. AND, UH, THAT WAS ON THE PRIORITY LIST FOR THE PARKS MAINTENANCE. AND WE CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS, AS YOU RECALL, THE EQUIPMENT WAS ORDERED, UH, WAS, UM, ALREADY RECEIVED. AND THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS ALREADY UNDERWAY THAT WE WILL CONTINUE AND FINALIZE. UH, THE SPLASH PAD HAS A NEW SURFACING COMPLETE IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THE ENTIRE, UM, YOU KNOW, SURFACE BOTTOM PART OF IT WAS DUG OUT AND NEW SURFACING WAS PUT IN ALSO SOME REPLACEMENT FIXTURES. ONE OF THE PIECES CAME IN, UH, DAMAGED THAT IS BEING REPLACED AND WILL BE IN LATER THIS WEEK. SO OUR TARGET DATE OF NEXT WEEK, SOMETIME AFTER INSPECTION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO, UH, OPEN UP THE SPLASH PAD AT TOM MCLEOD, UH, SHOULD BE OPEN SOMETIME NEXT WEEK. SO THAT WILL, UH, THAT WILL COMPLETE, UH, THE NEXT ITEM THAT, UH, THAT I WANT TO BRING UP AND DISCUSS, UH, WOULD BE, UM, PROBABLY NOT SO POSITIVE. UH, BUT NONETHELESS, UH, I THINK, UM, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S EASILY, EASILY FIXED AS YOU RECALL, THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF THE EPA, UH, UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S DIRECTION, UH, INITIATED AN ORDER THAT SAID THAT THROUGH DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, THERE WERE TO BE NO DISCONNECTS FOR LACK OF PAYMENT OR DELINQUENT PAYMENTS FOR A WATER SERVICE. UH, WE HAD INITIATED A PLAN AND PROGRAM PRIOR TO THAT, UH, THAT HAD PUT A TEMPORARY STAY ON THAT FOCUSING ON WHEN OHIO BEGINS TO REOPEN, WHEN PEOPLE CAN GO BACK TO WORK THAT WE REMOVE THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE ORDERS KIND OF CONFLICT WHERE THERE'S A THING THAT WAS PUSHED OUT TO THE END OF THE YEAR THAT DIDN'T COINCIDE WITH THE REOPENING AND RE-ENGAGEMENT OF PEOPLE BEING BACK TO WORK. UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE SEEING SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AND EFFECT TO THAT FOR THE COLLECTIONS OF REVENUE, FOR OUR WATER, UH, OUR WATER FUND FOR WATER SERVICES. UM, LAST YEAR, FOR INSTANCE, LAST YEAR AT, UM, UH, MEASURING THIS TIMEFRAME THROUGH JANUARY THROUGH MAY, UH, WE HAD AT ANY GIVEN TIME AROUND, UM, UP TO AN, AT MOST $30,000 IN DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS IN COLLECTIONS, IF WE LOOK AT AGING REPORTS IN 2020, UH, WE WERE FINE IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. IN FACT, WE WERE AGGRESSIVE IN SOME OF THE COLLECTION PROCEDURES, PAYMENT PLANS, UH, BILLING SOFTWARE. AND WE HAD ACTUALLY SEEN REDUCTIONS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY GOING INTO 2020 BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE AND MAKE SURE THAT AS WE RESTRUCTURED OUR RATES AND WE TOOK ON THESE LARGE CAPITAL PROGRAMS FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR IMPROVING OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT WE MADE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO OVERBURDEN, UH, THE, THE RATE PAYER AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THE RATES, KEEP THEM LOW, KEEP THEM WITHIN THAT TOP THIRD OF RATES WITHIN THE DISTRICT OR WITHIN THE REGION, I SHOULD SAY, UH, TO MAKE SURE TO ALSO HAVE ADEQUATE COVERAGE FOR THE FINANCING, THE BONDS ATTACHED TO OUR WATER SERVICE. CORRECT. AND WE REMEMBERED THAT PRESENTATION. SO JANUARY FEBRUARY, WE ACTUALLY SAW REDUCTIONS. UH, UNFORTUNATELY IN MARCH, IT STARTED TO GO UP IN MARCH. WE SAW AN INCREASE, UM, OF ABOUT A HUNDRED AND, UH, AN 83%, UH, IN APRIL WE SAW AN INCREASE OF 219% IN MAY. WE SAW ANOTHER 200%. SO IN HARD NUMBERS THAT IS SIMPLY, UH, IN MARCH OF 19, WE HAD $19,000 IN DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS, MARCH OF 2020. WE HAD 55,000 IN APRIL. WE HAD 29,000 LAST YEAR IN APRIL OF 2020. WE WENT TO 95,000 IN MAY. WE, UH, LAUNCHED TO ABOUT 125,000. SO IF WE KEEP THIS SCALE OF DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS, WE STAND, UH, WE STAND TO LOSE BASED ON A TREND LINE, NEARLY HALF OF OUR, OF OUR REVENUE STREAM. SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO ENACT A, A POLICY OF REINITIATING DISCONNECTS FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT IN PAYMENT PLANS, FOR THOSE THAT ARE, UH, NOT PAYING AND JUST CHOOSING A, IT IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT APPEARS BASED ON THE LACK OF REVENUE FOR OUR WATER [00:15:01] BILLS DOES NOT MATCH THE LACK OF REVENUE FOR EARNINGS AND COLLECTIONS. IN OTHER WORDS, UM, IT IS EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER. UH, W I CAN'T PUT A FINGER ON IT, BUT IT APPEARS THAT MAYBE THERE COULD BE A GAP IN THE MESSAGING FROM THE STATE ORDER VERSUS WHAT WE'RE DOING LOCALLY. MAYBE THINKING THAT THERE'S A REPRIEVE ON WATER BILLS THAT PEOPLE MAY NOT NEED TO PAY THEM AT ALL. UH, WE'RE NOT CERTAIN THAT THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE, BUT THERE IS A HIGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT DOESN'T MATCH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE A REDUCTION IN COLLECTIONS. SO IN ORDER TO SAFEGUARD THAT, UH, THERE'S ONE OF TWO THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. THE ONE IS CERTAINLY NOT OF INTEREST FROM STAFF AT THIS TIME, BUT THAT WOULD BE A RATE INCREASE TO, UH, TO, TO CAPTURE AND MATCH THOSE LOSS COLLECTIONS. UM, WE'RE NOT CERTAIN THAT THAT'S FAIR BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY THING. THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE TO GO OUT AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND ALSO UTILIZE OUR ABILITIES THROUGH OUR HOME RULE CHARTERS, UM, THAT STATES THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COLLECT AND SET OUR RULES. UH, ALTHOUGH THE STATE EPA DIRECTOR HAS AN ORDER, WE FEEL THAT IT DOES NOT MEET THE MEASUREMENTS OF, UH, OF THE ESTABLISHED CASE LAW REGARDING HARM RULE, HOME RULE CITIES, UH, OUR LAW DIRECTOR, SOME OTHER LAW DIRECTORS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AGREE WITH THE SAME, AND THIS IS NOT A COMPLAINT OR A GRIEVANCE AGAINST THE STATE ORDER. THIS IS MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE, MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS STILL HAVE ALL OF THE AMENITIES WITHOUT THE EXTRA BURDEN, UH, ON OUR RATE PAYERS. UH, SO WHAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING, UH, AND ALTHOUGH I DO NOT HAVE EVERYTHING TONIGHT, THIS IS JUST AN INTRODUCTORY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, MAKING SURE THAT COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. WE ARE IN AN ISSUE THAT IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT, WE WILL BE OBLIGATED LEGALLY BASED ON THOSE BOND COVENANTS TO ADDRESS IT. AND THAT WOULD BE THROUGH A RATE INCREASE OR A FIRM POLICY, MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN SHOW THAT WE ARE MAKING EFFORTS TO COLLECT THOSE PAST DUE AMOUNTS. SO, UH, A, UH, UH, A RATE PAYER THAT HAS A PAST DUE BALANCE, WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE A PAYMENT PLAN, UH, IN A VERY FLEXIBLE PAYMENT PLAN. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, AND THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME CHANGES TO OUR EXISTING PAYMENT PLAN ORDINANCE. RAY PAIR WOULD HAVE A PAYMENT PLAN FOR PREVIOUS PAST DUE BALANCE, NOT MOVING FORWARD. THAT MEANS, OKAY, PAYMENTS ARE DUE. YOU ARE STILL REQUIRED. AS WE STATED IN OUR POLICY, YOU'RE STILL REQUIRED TO MAKE YOUR PAYMENT, UH, IN ANY PAST DUE IS STILL DO. IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN AMNESTY SITUATION. SO IN ORDER FOR US TO RECOVER THOSE PAST DUE AMOUNTS, WE WANT TO ESTABLISH A PAYMENT PLAN. THAT PAYMENT PLAN WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO PAY THAT IF IT'S NOT A ROLLING PAYMENT PLAN. IN OTHER WORDS, I CAN JUST CONTINUE TO NOT PAY AND JUST ADD TO THE PAYMENT PLAN, UH, IF THEY DO NOT ENTER IN A PAYMENT PLAN. AND IF THEY ARE CURRENT ON THAT, THEN WE ARE LOOKING TO REINITIATE DISCONNECTIONS, UM, TO SAFEGUARD THE USE OF ALL THE OTHER CUSTOMERS. AND BASED ON THE TIMELINE, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS IMPLEMENTED AND VETTED THROUGH THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE EDUCATION AND INFORMATION NOTICED OUT THROUGH THE MONTH OF JULY, AND THEN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF PAYMENT PLANS. AND IF YOU'RE NOT ON A PAYMENT PLAN, IF YOU'RE JUST IGNORING THE FACT THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR WATER BILL, THEN LOOK AT DISCONNECT STARTING IN AUGUST. SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S FAIR. WE FEEL THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR RATE PAYERS WOULD SUPPORT THIS ACTION. SO AS TO PRESERVE THEIR LOW RATES, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE AS STAFF FEEL THAT IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. UH, THERE ARE MOVEMENTS, UH, WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, BUT I THINK, UH, AND I THINK JERRY WOULD SUPPORT THAT. WE HAVE THE ABILITY THAT WE CAN WORK, UH, AS A HOME RULE CHARTER CITY AND SET AND ESTABLISH OUR OWN POLICIES. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE MAY NOT BE CHALLENGES IN THE FUTURE, BUT I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO PRESERVE THE INTEREST OF THOSE RATE PAYERS AND THE INTEREST OF OUR UTILITY, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'VE UNDERWENT SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT AND INVESTMENTS HERE RECENTLY. OKAY. SO QUICK QUESTION, ROB, IF YOU DON'T MIND. UM, SO THROUGH MAY YOU MENTIONED 125,000, THAT'S JUST THE MONTH OF MAY, THAT JUST ACCUMULATE NUMBER. SO WE'RE AT 55 95 AND ONE 25, ADD ALL THOSE UP TOGETHER. THAT'S $339,409 AND 4 CENTS SO FORTH. SO WE'RE 330, $9,000 DOWN IN REVENUE AND DELINQUENT PAYMENTS. DO WE KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY ACTUAL ACCOUNTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, YES, WE DO A, THAT IS 11,904 DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS. WHEREAS LAST YEAR WE WOULD HAVE HAD, UM, UH, 2,223, AND THEY'RE LIKE 15, 16,000 RESIDENTS IN THE CITY, OR, I MEAN, LIKE HOW MANY, HOW MANY TOTAL? I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS. I, I, I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE THAT. NO, THAT'S OKAY. I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE ABOUT 25,000. JIM SAYS, [00:20:01] BASED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS HE'S HAD WITH A WATER DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THAT INCLUDES, OF COURSE, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND MULTIFAMILY, SOME OF THOSE HAVE MULTIPLE, UH, METERS, ET CETERA. SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT, IT'S LIKE 44% OF THE WATER CUSTOMERS. IT'S EXPONENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT. I WOULDN'T HAVE IMAGINED IT. WOULD'VE GOT THE HEIGHT. SO WHAT ARE YOU SAID, THERE'S SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THAT. SO WHO ELSE OWNS A WATER COMPANY? DO WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING? ARE THEY IMPLEMENTING SIMILAR SITUATION LIKE THIS? AND DO WE KNOW WHAT I MIGHT NOT NAME THEM BY NAME, BUT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER CITY MANAGERS. UH, OTHER CITY MANAGERS HAVE, UH, UM, HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS, UH, FROM, UM, LARGER SCALE CITIES DOWN TO SMALLER SCALE CITIES, UM, SEVERAL DO OWN, UH, OUTSIDE OF REGION. AND WHEN I SAY, UM, UH, THE, THE AREA, I MEAN, OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTY AS WELL. SO YOU HAVE, UM, AUGLAIZE COUNTY, MIAMI COUNTY, SOME DOWN IN A BUTLER COUNTY THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, THAT THIS IS A, UM, ONE OF THE TOPICS OF DISCUSSION THAT HAVE COME UP. UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S HIT A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF CITIES THAT OWN THEIR WATER COMPANY THAT YES. YES. UM, IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT, AGAIN, IT'S COMING TO THE FOREFRONT, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN AHEAD OF IT. WE STARTED MONITORING IT RIGHT AWAY, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE TO LOOK AT WELL LET'S AND WE WANTED TO WAIT, YOU YOU'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT, WE WANTED TO WAIT THROUGH MAY FOR SOME OF OUR MEASUREMENTS, AND THIS WAS ONE THAT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON AND, YOU KNOW, JUNE COULD BE OKAY. AND IT, AND I IMAGINE JUNE, HOPEFULLY IT STARTS TO REVERSE. AND THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN THAT HOPEFULLY BY THAT AUGUST TIMEFRAME, MOST PEOPLE WILL BE REVERSED BACK, HAVE A PAYMENT PLAN. AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE AS WHOLE AS POSSIBLE KNOWING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME LOSS INVOLVED. WE, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL FACTOR THAT IN, UH, BUT IT REALLY APPEARS THAT IT'S REALLY IMBALANCED THAT THERE'S EITHER A, A MISUNDERSTANDING OR A, JUST A LACK OF, OF, OF, OF OVERALL PAYMENT. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO GO THROUGH THAT MONTH OF EDUCATION, UH, AS WELL BEFORE WE WOULD IMPLEMENT ANYTHING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW THAT UP AND SAY THAT, UH, I THINK YOU COULD BE RIGHT. THERE COULD BE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING AS TO THE, THE, THE NEED TO STILL PAY. AND I THINK THAT EDUCATIONAL PIECE IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW, LOOK, THIS IS STILL A BILL DO. UM, BUT, UH, NOW I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS ON THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO REACH BACK TO THE WATER SOFTENING. I HAVE NOTICED THE EFFECTS ALREADY, MAYBE CAUSE I LIVE SO CLOSE TO THE PLANT, BUT, UM, UH, I GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS AND WORK INVOLVED. UM, I THINK IT'S ALREADY PAYING OFF AND I'M SURE THE RESIDENTS DO AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. AND THE REST OF THE STAFF FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THAT. APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S BEEN A GOOD PROJECT INDEED. AND THAT, UH, THAT IS ALL THAT I HAD. I WILL BRING BACK TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION, ALL OF THE, UM, THE, THE PLANS, THE PAYMENT PLAN, THE ORDINANCE, THE RESOLUTION, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PIECES TO IT. THERE WILL BE A MODIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE, AS I RECALL, AND ALSO A RESOLUTION THAT JUST KIND OF REAFFIRMS AND DECLARATION OF OUR HOME RULE AND ESTABLISH THE INTENT AND PURPOSE BEHIND THE PAYMENT PLAN, UH, JUST TO SOLIDIFY AND SHOW THE NECESSITY FOR THE ORDINANCE CHANGES. SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION, HOPING TO GET THAT PASSED BY JUNE AND AGAIN, SPEND, UH, SPEND THE MONTH OF JULY, UH, IMPLEMENTING AND EDUCATING, AND THEN, UM, UM, HAVE A TARGET DATE OF AUGUST 1ST THAT ALSO GIVES TIME FOR SOME CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS UP TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE REGION AND UP TO THE STATE LEVEL. UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT THEY SUPPORT AND CHANGE THINGS. UH, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT AS DAYS GO ON, THERE WILL BE SOME, SOME REVERSIONS BACK FROM SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE RESTRAINTS GIVEN. OKAY. I SHOP. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. MR. SHAW, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, ROB, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT, UM, IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND LOOK AT IT, MAYBE OUR TOP FIVE OR TOP 10 WATER USERS, UH, FROM THE RECENT WATER REPORT THAT PAM PROVIDED AND FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR REVENUES WERE LAST YEAR AND WHAT THEY MATCH UP TO THIS YEAR. SO THIS COUNCIL KNOWS WHAT OUR BIG WATER USERS AND THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US, I BELIEVE FOR AT LEAST FOR ME AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FORECASTING FOR, FOR A LOSS. SURE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW WE, WE GENERALLY, AS A, AS A RULE OF THUMB, WE GENERALLY SHOULD COLLECT ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH. AND, UM, UH, WE CAN, I IMAGINE THEY CAN BREAK THAT DOWN TO LARGE USERS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THESE DELINQUENCIES ARE IN RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS. UH, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY BREAK OUT AND SHOW WHAT SOME OF THE MAIN REVENUE SOURCES OF, UM, OTHER WATER USAGES FOR THAT. AND FOR THE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION, I KNOW TWO OF THE MAIN WATER USERS, HUBER HEIGHTS, CITY SCHOOLS, AND FLYING ACES. WELL, THEY THEY'VE SEEN A DROP OF SERVICE DRAMATICALLY. [00:25:02] UM, AND THEN BEING TWO OF THE LARGEST WATER USERS, CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, UH, THE DELAYED OPENING OF THE AQUATIC CENTER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WILL GIVE, YOU KNOW, A RESIDENCE IN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, UM, PIECE OF RESEARCH WHEN WE DO COME AT, UM, WITH SOME SORT OF PLAN OF ACTION GOING THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR TO RECOUP SOME OF THESE DELINQUENCIES. UM, AND, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PIECE OF INFORMATION TO HAVE SURE. WE'LL, UH, WE'LL INCLUDE THAT ALONG WITH THE, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE, UH, THE COMPARISON REVENUES FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, TOO. EXCELLENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING MR. SCHUMER'S ST ANDREW'S? I DO, YES. YEAH. UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, UM, BEFORE WE LAUNCH OFF INTO THIS, UM, LEGISLATIVE HALF, IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING, UH, THAT WE CAN QUANTIFY WHETHER THE DATE, SOME OF THESE, UM, BILLS ARE, ARE VALID, THAT, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO PAY THEIR BILLS. AND SECONDLY, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SERVICE EMPLOYEES LOST THEIR JOBS AND, UM, MAY OR MAY NOT GET THEM BACK. UH, WHAT IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SET UP A PAYMENT PLAN? WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE INTENT OF ESTABLISHING A PROCESS TO WHERE YOU CAN EVALUATE EACH DELINQUENT ACCOUNT AND ESTABLISH PARAMETERS FOR A PAYMENT PLAN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THAT. WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCE IS. UH, THERE ARE STILL, UM, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD, UM, APPEALS, UH, IN THE PROCESS BUILT IN, UH, REGARDING BILLS, ET CETERA. FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY HAS A, UM, A BROKEN WATER MAIN, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BILL RUNS UP THERE'S THERE'S PROCESSES AND THINGS FOR, UH, EXTRAORDINARY SITUATIONS LIKE THAT. UH, BUT THERE THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO, TO BUILD IN A PROCESS THAT SAYS, OKAY, IF, IF YOU CAN'T PAY YOUR BILL, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO, UH, AND THEN HAVE PARAMETERS THAT THEY CAN VOLUNTARILY PROVIDE US AND MEASURE THAT. I THINK WHERE IT BEGINS IS YOU HAVE TO BEGIN WITH A STANDARD OF, THIS IS THE RATE FOR THE SERVICE DESIRED. AND IF YOU CAN'T PAY THAT RATE, HERE IS THE ABOVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A PAYMENT PLAN, A REALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER TYPE OF SERVICE, WHETHER IT BE UTILITY, WHETHER IT BE RENT, WHETHER IT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCE MIGHT BE. SO I THINK THE PROCESS IN AND OF ITSELF HELPS IDENTIFY THE REASONS OR THE FLEXIBILITIES, UH, AND THE DESIGN OF WHAT THAT PAYMENT PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, BASED ON THE INDIVIDUAL'S CIRCUMSTANCE. AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT OUT, UH, RATHER THAN JUST PUTTING A BLANKET OUT, SAYING, OKAY, PAY IT BY THIS DATE, OR YOU'RE DISCONNECTED. THE WHOLE IDEA OF ENGAGING WITH A PAYMENT PLAN IS IN FACT IDENTIFYING WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE. AND ROB, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT WE HAD THE REAL ISSUE IS THAT YOU'RE NOT PAYING, YOU'RE NOT PAYING, AND THEN YOU'RE NOT RESPONDING OR NOT RESPONDING, OR IS COMPLETELY IGNORING, CORRECT ANY ATTEMPT AT COMMUNICATION OR TO SET UP A PAYMENT PLAN. THOSE ARE REALLY THE DISCONNECT SERVICES THAT WE WOULD BE INSTIGATING IN THE BEGINNING. I MEAN, IF PEOPLE ARE CALLING AT LEAST COMMUNICATING, I THINK THAT'S HOW WE QUANTIFY WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUAL SITUATIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES ARE. ABSOLUTELY. BUT I THINK I AGREE IF, IF, IF WE'RE NOT HAVING COMMUNICATION WITH THE ACCOUNT HOLDER AND THEY'RE IGNORING ALL ATTEMPTS TO, TO COMMUNICATE AND TRY TO SET UP A PLAN OR FIND OUT WHAT THE SITUATION IS THEN I DO. I THINK THAT PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE. SURE. THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF HAPPENED OVERNIGHT, BUT WE'RE NOT EXPECTING TO BE CURED OVERNIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME INFORMATION PEOPLE ARE GETTING BACK TO WORK. THINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, TURNING BACK TO NORMAL. UH, AND I THINK THAT OUR OUTLOOK IN JUNE IS PROBABLY NATURALLY GOING TO BE BETTER, BUT BEFORE THE SITUATION GETS TO WHERE WE'VE GOT A LARGER GAP TO FILL, IT'S BETTER TO BE PROACTIVE AT THE ONSET OF PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, FILL THAT GAP OF PAST DUE BILLS, ET CETERA. UH, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO BURDEN THOSE THAT ARE UNABLE TO PAY IT'S TO NOT EXCESSIVELY BURDENED, THAT THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY PAYING. AND, UH, AND, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S VERY DILIGENT AND, UM, AND I THINK THIS PROCESS AND PROGRAM WOULD WHAT HELPED CREATE THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. SCHOMER REGARDING ITEMS ENDS UP AT THE CV? OKAY. THANKS, ROB. THAT'S ALL I HAD, [ Bulletproof Vest Grant Application - Police Division] WHICH BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, B, WHICH IS A BULLETPROOF VEST GRANT APPLICATION THROUGH THE POLICE [00:30:01] DIVISION CHIEF FIGHTER. HOW ARE YOU, SIR? GOOD, GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A, UH, THIS IS A LEGISLATION WE BRING BEFORE YOU EVERY YEAR. AND WE HAVE FOR NUMEROUS YEARS, UH, WE'VE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE, BULLETPROOF VESTS PARTNERSHIP IN PURCHASING VESTS EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR, VESTS EXPIRE. UM, AND WE REPLACED THEM AND IT'S ON A ROTATION THIS YEAR. IT'S 11 OF THEM. UM, AFTER WE PURCHASED THOSE VESTS, WE SUBMIT FOR A 50% REIMBURSEMENT, AND THEN WE GET 50% OF THE COST OF THOSE VEST BACK. SO THIS IS AN ASK FOR YOU TO ALLOW US TO ENTER INTO THAT, THAT GRANT, UM, AS WE'VE DONE EVERY YEAR FOR NUMEROUS PAST YEARS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR CHIEF LIGHTENER REGARDING THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE BOOK? YES. YES. MR. LYONS, THANK YOU, CHIEF. HOW MANY VESTS AND HOW MUCH ARE THEY PER VEST? I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE PACKET. UM, 11 VESTS AND THE TOTAL I HAVE IN HERE, THE TOTAL IN THE PACKET YOU'LL SEE IS 8,061. THE ACTUAL AMOUNT IS 8,866 IS WHAT IT IS. I CAN TAKE THE BIG NUMBER AND DIVIDED BY THE LITTLE NUMBER AND I'LL FIGURE IT UP AND WE GET 50% OF THAT BACK. OKAY. YEP. SO THAT'S THE FRONT LINE? IT'S 8,000. PARDON? THAT'S THE MONEY TO PURCHASE THE BEST. WE CAN. 50% OF THAT BACK WHEN WE WERE ROUGHLY ABOUT 4,000. YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE GOT TO PAY PAY FIRST AND THEN WE GET REIMBURSED. OKAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING HIS GREENS APPLICATION ONTO MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THAT ON TO MONDAY. [ MOU - SRO Program – Huber Heights Schools ] NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE C, WHICH IS THE MOU FOR THE SRO PROGRAM WITH THE HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS. YEAH. I BRING THIS BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE IT'S A TWO YEAR CONTRACT AND THAT CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS, UH, END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. AND SO WE NEED TO RENEW IT. THE ONLY CHANGES TO THIS CONTRACT IS THE DATES AND THE NAME, CAUSE THERE'S A NEW SUPERINTENDENT. SO I'VE HAD TO CHANGE THAT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE DATES ARE, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED, I'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, WITH MARIO BIZARRO AND, UM, MMM. WE'VE WORKED OUT A LOT OF, UH, PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS THAT HE'S HAD BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HE'S NEW TO THE DISTRICT. AND, UH, AND THE RELATIONSHIP AMONGST, UH, OFFICER HAWAIIAN AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND OFFICER SHOEMAKER AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, UH, HAS BEEN GREAT, NOT ONLY THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY BUILD BETWEEN US, THE POLICE DIVISION, THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL, BUT ALSO ANSWERING THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, BECAUSE IF WE DID NOT HAVE THOSE OFFICERS IN THE SCHOOLS, UM, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CAUSE FOR OFFICER'S WORK IN THE STREET TO HAVE TO GO TO THE SCHOOL TO ANSWER CALLS FOR SERVICE. SO IT DOES FREE UP THE OFFICER'S WORK IN THE STREET TO ANSWER CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE CITY. WHEN I HAD THESE TWO OFFICERS TAKING THE, UM, THE LOAD OF CALLS AND THE, AND THE INVESTIGATIONS, CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INVESTIGATIVE TYPE WORK THAT'S DONE AT THE SCHOOLS TOO, TO FOLLOW UP ON INCIDENTS. SO THIS IS A RENEWAL THAT TO YOUR CONTRACT, LIKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF REGARDING SR PROGRAM. OKAY. ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING US ONTO MONDAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND NEXT [ ODOT Final Resolution - State Route 201 - Resurfacing] UP IS ITEM THREE D WHICH IS THE ODAT FINAL RESOLUTION FOR STATE ROUTE TWO OH ONE RESURFACING, MR. AND AGAIN, YEP. DO YOU THINK, UH, THIS LEGISLATION WILL AUTHORIZE THE CITY, UH, TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ODAT FOR THE MILLING AND RESURFACING OF BRENT PIKE, UH, STATE ROUTE TWO OH ONE BETWEEN AND GRUESOME MEYER WAY, WHICH IS RIGHT NEAR THE YMCA. UH, THE COST OF THIS PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY $500,000, UH, COST TO THE CITY FOR THIS WILL BE 20% OF THAT AT A $100,100. UM, OUR GAS TAX MONEY WE RECEIVED FROM LAST YEAR WILL BE USED FOR THIS. IT WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. I THINK JIM WILL HAVE THAT NEXT. AND, UM, THE PROJECT WILL BE BID BIODATA IN JULY AND, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION WILL TAKE PLACE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. UH, MOST PROBABLY ALL OF THE WORK WILL TAKE PLACE AT NIGHT IN THIS. WE ASKED THEM TO DO THAT AND, UM, AND WE DID ASK THEM TO NOT INTERFERE IF WE DO HAVE ANY CONCERTS AT THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER. SO, UM, THEY WON'T BE PAVING THAT NIGHT, BASICALLY, UH, ODAT WILL MANAGE AND SUPERVISE THIS ENTIRE PROJECT. SO, UM, WE ASKED FOR LET'S LEGISLATE TO IMPROVE, [00:35:01] BE APPROVED ON MONDAY. AND, UH, IF I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BERGMAN, ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO MONDAY? OKAY. SAY NOTHING, MOVE THAT TO MONDAY. [ Supplemental Appropriations] AND NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE, WHICH IS SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS. MR. BELL, GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. I HAVE BEFORE YOU, UH, AS WAS IN YOUR PACKET, SOME, UM, UH, SUPPLEMENTS TO THE BUDGET, UH, THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE FOR A MONDAY EVENING. UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS, UH, WHAT, UH, RUSS JUST MENTIONED A $100,100, UH, WHICH IS OUR SHARE OF THE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT FOR THE ODAT RESURFACING. THAT WOULD BE, UH, USING GAS TAX FUNDS, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, ARE INCREASED THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE TAX INCREASE LAST YEAR. UH, WE ARE SEEING A DECREASE, BUT NOT, UM, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN THOSE GAS TAX FUNDS THIS YEAR. UM, BUT NOT AT THE LEVEL THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED, BUT WE'LL STILL SEE AN INCREASE. AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY MONEY AVAILABLE TO MOVE OVER INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, WHERE WE PUT ALL OF OUR STREET PROJECTS. UH, ALSO I HAVE $10,000 FOR UNEMPLOYMENT PAYMENTS FOR FORMER MUSIC CENTER EMPLOYEES. UH, THAT'S ECONOMIC RELATED, UH, VERY RARE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE TO SPEND UP TO $10,000, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD TO BUDGET FOR THIS. AND, AND WE OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT GOING TO PAY ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T COME IN. SO, UH, 10,000 THERE, UH, $61,000 FOR PLUMBING AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AT THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER. I KNOW, UM, UH, WE'RE GOING WITH SOME, UM, NON-TOUCH, UH, UM, UH, FLUSHING AND, AND SO FORTH AT THE MUSIC CENTER. AND, UH, SO THAT'S, UM, I KNOW THAT PORTION OF IT'S 44,000, THE, UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME FEMA MONEY. UH, FEMA MONEY CAME INTO US, UM, NOT RELATED TO COVID, BUT FOR THE HURRICANE FLORENCE IN 2019, THAT WAS IN THE LATTER PART OF THE YEAR. AND SO ARE A COUPLE OF OUR INDIVIDUALS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WENT DOWN THERE, SERVED, AND THE OVERTIME THAT THEY WORKED DOWN THERE GETS REIMBURSED TO US. SO THAT MONEY, WHEN IT COMES IN, I PUT IT INTO THE FEMA FUND THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO NOW IS TO TRANSFER THOSE FEMA DOLLARS OVER TO THE FIRE FUND, WHICH IS WHERE THE OVERTIME MONEY WAS OBVIOUSLY SPENT LAST YEAR, UH, TO REIMBURSE THAT. AND THE FINAL ITEM I HAVE IS, UM, $110,000 FOR CAPITALIZED INTEREST EXPENSE FOR THE, UH, WATER SOFTENING LOAN. UM, WHAT THIS SAYS IS AS, UM, AS THE, UH, LOAN CONTINUES TO GROW, UM, AS WE, UM, UH, UNTIL THE PROJECT'S FINISHED, THERE'S CAPITALIZED INTEREST THAT ADDS UP EACH MONTH AND THAT JUST GETS ADDED ON. SO IT'S A REVENUE AND AN EXPENSE. IT'S A WASH. THAT'S WHY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL, UH, FISCAL IMPACT, UH, THAT'S REALLY NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT IMPACT. NEITHER IS THE, UH, FEMA FUNDS. SO THE TOTAL FISCAL IMPACT OF ALL OF THESE CHANGES IS JUST $171,100, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE ODAT PROJECT AND THE TWO PROJECTS AT THE MUSIC CENTER. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BELL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR, FOR JIM, MR. SHAW? THANK YOU, JIM. THIS QUESTION MAY NOT BE FOR YOU MORE, MAYBE MORE FOR THE CITY MANAGER WHEN WE PASS LEGISLATION ON THE TOUCHLESS FIXTURES FOR THE ROSE. UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT A COST OF ABOUT $44,000. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE THE 17 COMES INTO PLAY? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. TEST TEST TEST ONE, TWO. ABSOLUTELY I CAN. UM, IN, IN JIM MAY NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. WE ARE ALSO, UM, UH, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD PLANNED ON FOR THE MUSIC CENTER WAS THE INSTALLATION OF SOME BAFFLING CUSHIONS IN THE CEILING, UH, THAT HELPS TO ABSORB AND KEEP OUT SOME OF THE MUSIC AND SOUND FROM COMING OUT OF THE FACILITY, UH, TO HELP AS WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AS WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT PROJECT WAS PUT ON HALT, UH, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, UM, THE SAME NUMBER OF CONCERTS THIS YEAR, WE WERE GOING TO DELAY THAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR, UH, RATHER THAN PAYING A $4,000 RESTOCKING FEE FOR THE FABRIC THAT'S NEEDED FOR THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE THE FABRIC AND THEY'RE GOING TO STORE IT FOR FREE. AND THAT'S A $17,000, UM, ALMOST TO THE PENNY, UH, EXPENSE. UH, THAT WAS PART OF THE NORMAL THRESHOLD OF EXPENDITURES. UH, UNLIKE WHEN WE BID OUT THE PLUMBING FIXTURES, UH, THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT WE WERE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE OUR OWN STAGEHANDS, TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL, UH, TO INSTALL THE RIGGING AND BE ABLE TO, UH, TO INSTALL THAT FABRIC PADDING. UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR THE PURCHASE OF THAT RATHER THAN RETURNING IT AND PAY THE $4,000 [00:40:01] NEXT YEAR'S PRICE INCREASE. PLUS THE 4,000 RESTOCKING FEE, WE'D BE PAYING, YOU KNOW, 22 TO $25,000 FOR FABRIC WE COULD PURCHASE THIS YEAR THAT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR 17. SO THAT'S PART OF THAT, UM, UH, OVERALL EXPENDITURE. SO, UM, I KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT AS PART OF THE PLUMBING THING, BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD ALREADY COUNTED ON AS PART OF OUR ANNUAL REGULAR UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE PLANS. UH, BUT IN ORDER TO, UH, TO GET THAT FUNDING APPROPRIATED, UH, WE FEEL THAT THAT'S THE, UM, THAT'S THE BEST MOVE FOR THAT. SO I'M GLAD YOU ASKED, I FORGOT TO HAVE THEM INCLUDE THAT AS THE EXPLANATION AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. BELL? I GUESS MS. VERGE? YEAH, TWO OF THEM, UM, JUST WENT THROUGH JIM BELL ON THE, UH, THE $10,000 FOR THE UNEMPLOYMENT PAYMENTS. IS THAT WHAT WE PAID IN THE PAST? BASICALLY? NO, NO. IT'S VERY RARE FOR US TO MAKE ANY PAYMENTS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT. UM, IT'S JUST, UH, IF THEY FORMERLY WORKED HERE AND THEN THEY GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY GET, UH, THEY SUFFER UNEMPLOYMENT AT THEIR NEW POSITION, IT'S ALL DETERMINED THROUGH HR. WE GET A, WE GET AN INVOICE BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF, UM, WORK THAT THEY DID FOR US, AND THERE ARE OTHER JOBS. AND SO WE'RE NOT PAYING TOTAL UNEMPLOYMENT FOR WHERE THEIR NEW JOB IT'S, IT'S SPLIT BETWEEN ALL THE JOBS THEY'VE WORKED IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS. OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, AND THIS IS JUST A CONCERN FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE APPROPRIATION. I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF LEITNER STILL THERE ARRIVE WITH, YOU CAN ANSWER IT WHEN THEY HAD THE, UH, THE DEMONSTRATIONS OVER IN DATE NIGHT. HE HAD HEARD THAT AT ONE OF OUR POLICE CARS GOT DAMAGED. IS THAT TRUE? YES, IT IS TRUE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD MAKE A CLAIM WITHIN OUR, UM, OUR INSURANCE FOR. SO, UM, OUR CURRENT APPROPRIATIONS FOR DEDUCTIBLES AND SUCH SHIT SHOULD HANDLE THAT. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS MS. BURCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MR. BELL? JIM, ARE YOU LOOKING TO WHERE THE SECOND READING ON THIS ORDINANCE? YES. YES, BECAUSE OF THE O DOT EVER SERVICING PROJECT. OKAY. YEAH. WHEN YOU GET THAT APPROVED ON MONDAY, PLEASE, ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO MONDAY UNDERSTANDING WE WILL BE ASKING TO IN THE SECOND WEEK. OKAY. SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE THAT ON TO MONDAY. THANK YOU, MR. BELL. NEXT UP [ Five-Year Capital Improvement Plan ] IS I AM THREE F, WHICH IS THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. HOW ARE YOU, BRIAN? I'M GOOD. MR. MAYOR. HOW ABOUT YOURSELF? GOOD. GOOD. UM, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, UH, WAS THE, UH, INITIAL SUBMITTAL BY STAFF FOR THE FIVE-YEAR CIP, UH, WITHIN A COMPANY COVER MEMO. UH, THIS, UH, DOCUMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, UH, WAS, UH, A, UM, UNEDITED REQUEST OF CAPITAL ITEMS FROM STAFF. SO, UM, MYSELF, UH, MR. BELL AND THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE LOOKING OVER THAT, UM, IN THE WEEKS AND MONTHS TO COME AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, UH, TOWARDS THE, UH, TOWARDS THE ACTUAL 20, 21, UH, BUDGET PROCESS. SO, UH, WE WANTED TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, AS IS REQUIRED BY THE CHARTER FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE, UH, PROVIDE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US INPUT ON, UH, ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, EDITED, ADJUSTED, UH, REDACTED RETURNED, UH, MULTIPLIED, UH, BEFORE WE GET TO THE, UH, THE BUDGET PROCESS ITSELF. SO, UH, THAT'S WHY THIS DOCUMENT IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET TONIGHT, SO THAT YOU CAN REVIEW IT, EVALUATE IT. UM, IT IS OUR INTENT TO PROVIDE COUNSEL THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY, UM, ON THIS DOCUMENT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, FOLLOWED BY ADOPTION AT THE NEXT FORMAL COUNCIL MEETING. SO, UM, PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, RECEIVE INPUT FROM, UH, ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WHO WISHES TO PROVIDE IT. SO WHERE THEY'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. CERTAINLY. THANKS, BRIAN. I THINK I TOLD YOU LAST YEAR, DID WE HAVE, WHEN WE OPENED UP KIND OF THE CIP PROCESS FOR COMMENTS AND THINGS THAT NEED TO, DID PEOPLE SEND THEIR COMMENTS TO YOU AND DID THAT OKAY. EITHER ONE OF US COULD JUST GET YOU, I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO DO THE SAME THING, JUST TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND CLARIFICATION FROM EACH COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE CIP. YOU JUST KIND OF THE SAME WAY WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS. UH, SO YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT, GATHER IT TOGETHER AND PROVIDE IT TO BRIAN. YEAH. SO, SO I THINK AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS CIP, ANY COMMENTARY, YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO, PLEASE JUST GET THAT TO TONY. AND THEN AS TONY HAS UNHEALED, HE'LL GET THE ONE FORWARDED ON TO, UH, UH, TO ROBBINS, BRIAN AND PLENTY OF TIME FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS THEM. AND THEN FURTHER ON AGAIN, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO TO LEGISLATION COMMITTEE. YUP. ROB SURE. ONE THING [00:45:01] I JUST WANT TO ADD IS, IS RECALL THE, THE, THE CIP IS NOT FUNDED. UH, THE BUDGET PROCESS WILL DETERMINE THAT. SO AGAIN, THIS KIND OF SETS A PRIORITY OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS WE BUILD THE BUDGET. SO, UH, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT IT TO BE, UH, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WISHLIST. UM, AND I KNOW I GIVE THIS, THIS TALK EVERY TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME LIKELY UNCERTAINTIES, UH, GOING INTO THE 20, 21 BUDGET, BUT FOR THIS PROCESS, I THINK IT STILL IS VALID TO SET THE PRIORITIES BECAUSE WE STILL COUNT ON BUSINESS AS NORMAL. AND ONCE WE GO INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS, THAT'S WHEN WE IDENTIFY WHAT THINGS WE CAN FUND, ONE THINGS WE DO NEED TO CUT AND OR REDUCE. SO, UH, JUST WONDERING TO THROW THAT IN. THANKS. OKAY. SO YES, THAT'S YOUR LINES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, BRIAN, UH, IN THE FIRE DIVISION, UH, THERE'S A MEDIC REPLACEMENT. DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE THAT'S BEING REPLACED? UM, I DO NOT, SIR. I DO KNOW THAT, UH, THE MEDIC IN QUESTION, UH, IS PART OF A CYCLE AND A SCHEDULE THAT, UH, CHIEF AF ASHWORTH HAS ESTABLISHED. SO THIS WOULD NOT BE A, UM, THIS WOULD NOT BE A REPLACEMENT, OR LET ME REPHRASE THAT. THIS WOULDN'T JUST BE IN ADDITION TO THE FLEET, IT WOULD BE PART OF THE ONGOING CYCLE OF VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS, THERE'S A, UM, NOT A MONEY FOR 65,000 FOR A, UH, MECHANIC SUPERVISOR. UH, I WOULD THINK IF IT WAS A PERSONNEL COST, IT WOULDN'T BE IN HERE. SO IS THAT LIKE EQUIPMENT FOR THE MEDIC OR A MEDIC MECHANICS SUPERVISOR, CORRECT. IN THIS INSTANCE, OR YOU ARE, UM, IN THIS INSTANCE YOU ARE CORRECT IN THAT THIS IS A PERSONNEL COST, WHICH WE DID NOT CATCH UNTIL, UH, THE ITEM HAD BEEN SUBMITTED. SO, UM, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ERROR, BUT THAT IS AN ITEM THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT SEE AS PART OF THE 20, 21 BUDGET SUBMITTAL LATER IN THE YEAR, 65,000 THERE. UM, I'M SURE THAT, UM, MR. GRAY CAN FIND A USE FOR THAT. UH, DOES HE TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS? OH, I I'M. I'M SURE HE'LL HAVE SEVERAL TIME OFFER YOU IN COUNSELING FIRST. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM MR. ROGERS EXPECTS TO SEE THAT FEEDBACK. WE'LL MOVE IT ON. WE'LL MOVE IT ON. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COME? YES. MR. SHAW. THANK YOU. UM, ROBERT OR BRIAN. UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, UH, UM, BRIEFLY, UM, OR EVEN PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN TAKE OUR, OUR PREVIOUS CIP BUDGET, COMPARE THAT TO WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED WITH THE ESTIMATED COST AND, AND, AND FINALIZE AND GET THAT OUT FOR A RESOURCE AS WELL. YEAH. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS, IS AS BRIAN INDICATED, THE UNEDITED RAW FORM, WHAT WE'LL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION IS THE SPREADSHEET THAT WE'VE BUILT. UH, WE'LL ADD THAT NEXT YEAR TO IT FOR THAT ROLLING FIVE-YEAR, UH, WHICH WILL ALSO INCLUDE, UH, TO DATE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES BASED ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET. SO A SIMILAR, LIKE WE HAD THOSE NUMBERS BUILT INTO IT ON THAT SPREADSHEET LAST YEAR. WE'LL WE'LL SUBMIT THAT AS A PART OF THE PLAN. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. YES. MS. BIRCH. YEAH. UM, BRIAN ON THE, UM, ON THE NUMBERS FOR THE 2020, UNLESS THE FIGURES HAVE REMOVED INTO AN OUT YEAR, ARE WE TO ASSUME THAT THOSE ARE, HAVE BEEN COMPLETED? OR HOW DO WE KNOW IF YOU'VE JUST DROPPED THE REQUIREMENTS? YEAH. SO, UM, AT THE PRESENT TIME, ANYTHING THAT REMAINS IN THE SHADED 2020 CATEGORY AS EITHER A PURCHASE OR IS AN ACQUISITION THAT IS EITHER HAPPENING, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO, BUT HAS YET TO HAPPEN, UH, OR IS, UM, A COUNCIL POLICY PRIORITY, WHICH WE HAVE YET TO IMPLEMENT. SO ANYTHING THAT REMAINS IN THAT 2020 CATEGORY THAT'S SHADED IS EITHER A, A COMMITMENT WE'VE ALREADY MADE OR ONE WE INTEND TO MAKE BASED ON COUNCIL POLICY. OKAY. UM, AND I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION, AND, AND I COULD SEND THIS IN A MEMO, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT PROBABLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE MIGHT BE INTERESTED. UM, WHY DO WE NOT PROJECT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? A NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY? SO THERE WAS IN, I BELIEVE IT WASN'T THE 2019, UM, THERE WAS MONEY THAT WAS IDENTIFIED FOR, UH, JUST SUCH A PURPOSE. AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AT LEAST FOR THE, THE STANDING UP, I GUESS, IF YOU COULD, YOU'D SAY A NEW FACILITY, UM, THE CITY AT THIS POINT HAS COMMISSIONED A STUDY FOR THAT PURPOSE. AND THAT'S BEING LED BY MR. FALKOWSKI AND HIS FOLKS, UM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF IDENTIFYING EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE, WHAT TYPE OF FACILITY WE NEED AND, UH, APPROXIMATE [00:50:01] ESTIMATES OF WHAT THAT FACILITY WILL BE. SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION BACK FROM THAT STUDY, WE WILL INSERT THAT INTO THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. OKAY. AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, UM, IS, UM, HOW COMES, AND, AND I, YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS A WHILE BACK, AND I JUST DON'T REMEMBER. UM, WE WERE GOING AT A CLIP WITH THE CHANNEL CHAMBERSBURG ROAD IMPROVEMENT PHASES ABOUT EVERY TWO YEARS, AND NOW THE NEXT ONE ISN'T PROJECTED TO HAPPEN TILL 2025. I'M BEING ASKED A LOT ABOUT WHY THAT'S BEING DELAYED, RIGHT? SO, UM, IN A NUTSHELL, THAT PROJECT AND THOSE SERIES OF PROJECTS ARE CONTINGENT UPON FUNDING GRANT FUNDING FROM THE STATE THROUGH MV RPC. THE STATE OF OHIO HAS EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE FUTURE EXPANSION AND DEVELOPMENT OF CHAMBERSBURG, UH, WITH RESPECT TO OUR, UM, LONGTERM MASTER PLAN. AND SO THOSE ARE ISSUES RIGHT NOW THAT MR AND HIS TEAM ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE STATE AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE, UM, A SOLUTION. UH, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE US, UH, DOING SOME ADDITIONAL PLANNING STUDIES TO FACILITATE THAT, THAT, UH, CORRECTION OR THAT, UH, THE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO ADDRESS THE STATE'S CONCERN. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT WILL FORCE THOSE, UH, THOSE PROJECTS OUT OF CYCLE. OH, OKAY. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MASTER PLAN, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YES. MA'AM NO. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MR. FOX, MR. SCHAKOWSKY WAS VERY KIND IN HIS EXPLANATION. I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BLUNT. UM, WE WERE PREPARED FOR THIS IN RPC SUPPORTED IT. WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE WERE GRANTED THE AWARD AT THE 11TH HOUR. ONE INDIVIDUAL AT ODAT DECIDED THAT THEY DID NOT LIKE SOME OF THE WORDING AND MISINTERPRETED THE WORDING IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEY SAW THE WORD PRESERVATION. THEY ASSUMED THAT THAT'S CONSERVATION PRESERVATION MEANS THAT WE PRESERVE THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH IN THAT AREA, WHICH INCLUDED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, ET CETERA, THAT WHICH THE WHOLE BASIS OF THE ENTIRE PROGRAM WAS BUILT ON THAT MVR PC GOT BEHIND. WE MET ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM MV RPC, WHO VERY PASSIONATELY SPOKE OUT IN OUR FAVOR. THAT WOULD NOT, THAT WAS NOT ABLE TO CONVINCE THIS ONE PERSON THAT WAS NOT THE DIRECTOR OR THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, BUT WHAT WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT MAKES INTERPRETATIONS. SO, UH, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING THING THAT WE ARE NOT FAVORABLE OF, THAT WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE BEEN SLIGHTED ON, UH, IN MY OPINION, AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO, UM, TO STAND FIRM ON AND ASKING, UH, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY HAVE ASKED US TO WITHDRAWAL AND I HAVE TOLD STAFF, WE WILL NOT WITHDRAW. WE WILL BE TOLD BY THE STATE THAT THIS IS NOT APPROVED. AND THEN WE WILL TAKE OUR CASE UP WITH THE PROCESS, INCLUDING MV RPC APPROVAL AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE. WE'VE ALREADY SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THIS PROJECT THUS FAR, THIS IS A PIPELINE AND A GATEWAY TO WRIGHT PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE. AS WE LOOK AT INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AT WRIGHT, PAT AIR FORCE BASE, AS THEY LOOK AT POSSIBILITY OF SPACE FORCE HEADQUARTERS ARE RIGHT, PEDRO FOR SPACE, ALL THOSE THINGS. I WAS SHOCKED THAT ONE PERSON HAD THE ABILITY TO PULL THE PLUG ON THIS. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN THAT THIS COUNCIL PRIORITIZED IN PAST. UH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS TIME IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS AND YES, WE HAVE LOBBIED AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOBBY. IN FACT, QUITE FRANKLY, I WAS TOLD, I DON'T CARE IF YOU GET A LETTER FROM DONALD TRUMP, UM, REGARDING THIS PROJECT. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT AT THIS TIME. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR MY BLUNTNESS, BUT I'M A LITTLE PASSIONATE BECAUSE WE'VE DEDICATED A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT. AND TO HAVE IT PULLED MIDSTREAM REALLY, IN MY OPINION IS UNREASONABLE. I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION, ROB. UM, I GUESS MY, MY FINAL CONCERN ON THIS IS THAT WHEN I LOOK AT IT, THE, UH, LONG RANGE PLANNING FOR MBRP DC, I DON'T SEE IT ON THEIR, ON THEIR WISHLIST. SO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW. UH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT ON MBR PC FOR 2025. MMM DOESN'T THAT MAKE THAT A LITTLE LESS LIKELY THAT WE WILL MEET THAT MILESTONE OF 2025 WHEN IT GETS PRIORITIZED? WELL, I THINK ALL OF, MANY OF THE PROJECTS AT THIS TIME, BASED [00:55:01] ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE GOVERNOR AND OTHER STATE LEADERSHIP IS SOME OF THESE, UH, STATE FUNDED PROJECTS ARE PRETTY MUCH ALL ON HOLD REGARDLESS. SO BEF BEFORE EVEN THAT SITUATION OCCURRED, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, MONTHS BEFORE THAT. SO I THINK THE OUTLOOK IN GENERAL, WE STILL HAVE THE SUPPORTIVE MCRPC, UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE RECENTLY MET WITH THEM AND THEY STILL ARE BEHIND THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THEY DO FEEL THAT IN THE REGION, IT IS A NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY IN COMPARISON FOR SOME OF THE OTHER APPROVED PROJECTS, UM, THAT, UH, THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH. RIGHT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. MR. TRUMP, THANK YOU, ROB. I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. UM, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FOLKS OPEN ODOD AND YOU SAY IT'S NOT THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR AND IT'S NOT THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR. SO I GUESS I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE AS POLITE AS POSSIBLE. HOW IN THE HAM SANDWICH IS SOMEBODY THAT, UH, IS NOT OF SIGNIFICANCE CAN CONTROL THAT THERE IS A PROCESS TO REVIEW FOR THE WE'LL CALL IT THE AUDITING OF THE USE OF THE FUNDS, AND IT DOES NOT PASS THEIR INDIVIDUAL INTERPRETATION AND MEASUREMENTS, AND THEY ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THAT DETERMINATION. AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD. UH, THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR WAS THE ONE THAT TOLD ME, UH, WHEN I SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, WELL, I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO, UH, UM, LEADERSHIP OF CONGRESS. I'VE SPOKEN TO STATE LEADERSHIP REGARDING SUPPORT. AND THE COMMENT TO THAT WAS, WELL, IT DOESN'T MATTER. I DON'T CARE IF YOU GET A LETTER FROM DONALD TRUMP. INTERESTING. UM, HOW FAR ALONG DOES THAT DELAY IS? I MEAN, OVERALL, THIS ONE PERSON HAS ONE COMMITTEE'S DECISION, UM, TO FIGHT THROUGH THIS OUTSIDE OF THE TIMETABLE THAT WAS RECENTLY DISCUSSED. WELL, I THINK YOU LOOK AT THIS IN A FIVE-YEAR ROLLING THINGS. SO EACH YEAR THAT IT'S NOT APPROVED, IT'S JUST ANOTHER YEAR. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR OUT PROJECT, RIGHT? RUSS. YES. WE WERE TWO YEARS INTO THE FIVE YEAR PROJECT. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE DELAYED ON THESE ONE YEAR, BUT THEY HAVEN'T CANCELED IT YET. IT'S NOT CANCELED. WE ASKED FOR ANY, AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR EXTENSION UNTIL WE RESOLVE. SO WHAT RUSS SAID IS THAT, UH, WE WERE IN YEAR TWO OF THE FIVE YEAR PLAN AND WE HAVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT PENALIZES US. AND IT ALSO PUTS US LOWER ON THE LIST AND POINTS FOR ANY ON THE OTHER PROJECTS OR MCRPC, WHICH IS ONE THING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID. UH, BUT, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS, PULL IT AND FORGET IT, OR DO THE EXTENSION AND TRY TO FINALIZE THE APPROVAL AND COMPLETION. SO THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE, UH, THAT WE'RE IN ROBIN, YOUR OPINION WOULD A, WHAT A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT OR A MOTION FROM THIS COUNCIL, UM, DISAGREEING WITH THE STATEMENTS MADE THUS FAR BY, OH, DOT, UH, BE OF ANY SUPPORT AT THIS TIME. HONESTLY, THE STATEMENT OF SUPPORT HAS ALREADY BE PA HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED IN THE INTENTION FOR APPLICATION THAT, UM, THE, THE INTENTION OF IMPLEMENTING THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS SUPPORT FROM OUR CONSORTIUM, MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION. SO, UH, I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE THAT, THAT IT HONESTLY WOULD. I I'M, I'M NOT SAYING IF YOU WANT TO FEEL FREE, BUT, UM, UH, I REALLY DON'T KNOW, UH, THAT IT WOULD REALLY DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY ARE FULLY AWARE THAT IT IS, UH, IT IS A PROJECT THAT WE SUPPORT IS A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE INVESTED TIME AND MONEY INTO. UH, AND IT IS A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN TO DIG OUR HEELS IN, TO MAKE SURE TO CONTINUE TO JUSTIFY, UM, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE ALL ELEMENTS IN PLACE. WE HAVE LOCAL SUPPORT, WE HAVE REGIONAL SUPPORT, UH, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE WE CAN TELL HIM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. REV, MR. CAMPBELL, TWO QUESTIONS WRONG. CAN YOU PROVIDE THE COUNCIL THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE INVESTED IN BOTH OUR MONEY AND OUR TIME AT SOME LATER DATE SO FAR IN THE PHASES OF THE CHAMBERSBURG? YES. WE CERTAINLY HAVE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. COULD YOU PROVIDE TO US WHAT THIS GRANT THAT WE'RE NOW NOT GOING TO RECEIVE BECAUSE OF THE STATE WAS VALUED AT OH, YES, WE, YEAH. WE HAVE THE PROJECT ESTIMATES AS TO WHAT THAT WAS, WHAT OUR MATCH WOULD BE. IT WASN'T A DESIGN YET. [01:00:02] OH, IT'S ALREADY HALFWAY. OKAY. SO NOT FULLY DESIGNED, BUT YEAH, WE CERTAINLY GOT SOME GOOD ESTIMATES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW MAYBE WHAT THE STATE. RIGHT. BUT WE JUST NEED THE TOTAL AMOUNT. SO WE'LL PUT THAT TOGETHER, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT WAY COUNCIL WOULD KNOW MAYBE WHAT THE PRICE TAG IS THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO THE STATE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR. YES, SIR. WE'RE GOOD. ONE QUICK QUESTION. SO WHAT WAS A YEAR AGO, YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WERE WILLING TO PUT INTO THE ROUTE FOR CHAMBERSBURG OVERPASS REDESIGN ALL THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE TURNABOUTS OR THE TURNAROUNDS INSIDE OF ROUTE FOUR WERE GOING TO BE. SO REMEMBER WE HAD THREE NICE DIFFERENT, UH, VERSIONS OF WHAT WE COULD ACTUALLY CHOOSE FROM OF WHAT WE WERE IN EACH ONE OF THOSE CAME WITH AN X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT WE HAD TO PUT IN UPFRONT TO GET THE MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE GRANT IN EACH ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS WORKS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EXPENSES. SO WHERE IS THAT PROJECT BASED ON IF IT DOES THAT EVEN SILICO, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE EXPANDING CHAMBERSBURG OR WIDENING IT, OR FIXING THAT ON DOWN TO THAT OVERPASS. SO IS THAT PROJECT ON HOLD AS WELL? BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS, YEAH, THEY'RE STILL DOING THE OVERPASS. UM, AND ALL THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE RAISING THE DECK. UH, THEY'RE NOT WIDENING THE OVERPASS. UH, THEY'RE JUST RAISING THE DECK OF THAT. THAT'S WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE OVERPASS, NOT THE INTERCHANGE OF THE OVERPASS, BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO SOME WORK THEY WERE GOING TO DO ON, ON ROUTE FOUR LOWER VALLEY PIKE. YEAH. YEAH. CARLISLE PIKE. I'M SORRY. NEW CARLISLE PIKE. I THINK IT IS LITERALLY LIKE THAT GOES ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE NEW CARLISLE PIKE ON ONE SIDE. I THINK IT'S LOWER VALLEY ON THE OTHER MAYBE, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE 35 OVERPASS. THE OVERPASS WAS A DIFFERENT PROJECT. THAT'S GOING TO BE RAISED. THAT'S ALL ON THEM. THAT THAT'S A NO DOC PROJECT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SUBMITTED. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. I GOT THAT MIXED UP. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LOWER VALLEY PIKE IN THAT THE, UM, THE INTERSECTION WAS DANGEROUS IN WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE CARLISLE PIPE. I THINK WE WERE FUNDING THAT WE WERE SELVES. YES. AND IT WAS A, UH, IT WAS A DELIBERATE DECISION TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. THE STATE, UM, UM, DID NOT PROVIDE ALL OF THE FUNDING. UH, WE WERE GOING TO ATTEMPT A SAFETY FUNDING FOR THAT. AND I, I RECALL IT WAS YEAH. 20. YEAH. YEAH. ABOUT $200,000. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. I GOT THIS PROJECT. NO PROBLEM. YEAH. THE BRIDGES IS NOT ONE OF OUR PROJECTS. THERE'S NO MATCH INVOLVED WITH US FOR THE BRIDGE PROJECT. THE OVERPASS IS STILL ONGOING THERE. THAT'S ALL ON THEM. RIGHT. THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS RIGHT NOW REGARDING THE CIP. OKAY. SO PLEASE, EVERYONE PUT YOUR FEEDBACK TOGETHER, AT LEAST, UM, UH, WORK WITH STAFF TO GET ITEMS THAT, UM, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT ADDRESSED IN THE CIP. YOU GET THOSE FOUR TO TONY, SO WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, UH, FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT [ ZC 20-13 - Major Change - The Barn - 8303 Brandt Pike] UP IS ITEM THREE G, WHICH IS A ZONING CASE Z C 20 DASH 13, OR CHANGE FOR THE BARN PROJECT AT 83 OH THREE BRANDT PIKE. SO, UM, JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW, SO MR. RAKOWSKI IS GOING TO GO OVER, UH, THIS PROJECT. THERE WAS A, WE DID GET AN EMAIL, UM, FROM, UH, MR. ZAPPA, TONY, HOW FROM THE SENSORS, YOU KNOW, UH, THE MEETINGS CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE, WE'RE STILL OFFERING ANYONE TO SEND ANY QUESTIONS THROUGH THAT EMAIL ADDRESS SO WE CAN ADDRESS, UM, JUST AS IF THEY WERE HERE. SO, UH, SOME QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE THERE WERE ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE QUESTIONS THAT WERE EMAILED, MR. , UH, HAS GONE THROUGH THOSE QUESTIONS POSED BY MR. SAFRA, TONY. SO HE WILL ALSO BE ADDRESSING THOSE ALONG WITH, UH, THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION HE HAS THIS EVENING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE, UH, WHERE THOSE QUESTIONS CAME FROM. THE REPUBLIC QUESTION, MR. MCCALSKY HAS REVIEWED THEM, HAS ANSWERED THEM, AND HE WAS GOING TO GO OVER THOSE AGAIN THIS EVENING. THANKS, SCOTT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. UM, THE PROJECT NIGHT IS FOR A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY THAT WE NOW OWN, WHICH IS THE OLD LEHMAN PROPERTY THAT WE JUST PURCHASED. AND, UH, THIS, UH, THERE'S A 51.6 ACRES THERE THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLANNED EMPLOYMENT PARK. UM, IN THE FUTURE, WHEN THERE IS AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, COMING FORWARD WITH NEW BUSINESS, WE WILL PROBABLY [01:05:01] LOOK TO CHANGE. WE WILL LOOK TO, UH, CHANGE THAT PROBABLY TO A PLAN MIXED USE, BUT THERE'S NO REASON TO CHANGE THE OVERALL ZONING OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THOSE FINAL USES ARE TO BE USE. BEING REQUESTED AS THIS MAJOR CHANGE IS, IS FOR A, UH, A PUBLIC GATHERING SPACE UTILIZING THE BARN AS THIS CAME BEFORE, UH, CITY COUNCIL. AND I WORK SESSION A COUPLE OF WORK SESSIONS AGO, MR. TODD KOSKI PRESENTED, UM, THE PROJECT THAT, UH, HIM AND HIS TEAM HAD COME UP WITH FOR THAT PLACEMAKING TYPE THING, UTILIZE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE AND TRY TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE AREA TO HELP MARKET THE SITE. SO, UH, THAT IS A PRINCIPLE PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE PLANNED EMPLOYMENT PARK ZONING DISTRICT. SO THIS WOULD JUST BE ALLOWANCE OF THAT USE AND THIS SITE, UM, WITHIN THIS PROPERTY, UM, YOU CAN MOVE ON NEXT. SO THE, THE PROJECT ITSELF IS TO UTILIZE THAT EXISTING BARN, UH, DO SOME, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF STRUCTURAL UPGRADES, UM, MINOR DETAILS TO IT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MEETS SAFETY STANDARDS, STRUCTURAL STANDARDS, UM, AND HAS THE RIGHT SURFACE ON THE INSIDE ON THE INSIDE. THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, SOME, SOME DIRT FLOORS, SOME, UH, BROKEN UP CONCRETE FLOORS AND EVEN SOME OLD WOOD FLOORS THAT ARE FALLING APART. SO THERE'S, UH, SOME, UH, UH, REMODELING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE INSIDE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP THE CHARACTER OF THE BARN, UM, AS, AS IS. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE AND OVERALL, UH, UTILIZE THAT THE, UH, THE ROUGH STRUCTURES JUST FINE, UH, THE OUTDOOR, UH, THE SIDING, UM, WORKS GREAT. SO WE WOULD ADD A GRAVEL PARKING LOT TO THE AREA AND ADD SOME, UH, SOME CONCRETE FOR SOME WALKS AND SOME ADA ACCESS WITH THE HANDICAP PARKING, UM, AND THEN UTILIZE THE SPACE TO BRING IN SOME FOOD TRUCKS AND, UM, HAVE SOME GAMES. UH, IT'S BASICALLY A GATHERING SPACE, UM, A BEER TRUCK, UM, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS UTILIZING JUST THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR OF THE FACILITY WITH THAT TO THE, UM, AS THE, THE SITE ITSELF, THIS WOULD, AS I SAID, MEET THE CURRENT ZONING, THE BUILDINGS WHERE THEY ARE, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL UTILITIES THAT NEED TO BE RUN. UH, WE WILL HAVE RESTROOM FACILITIES THAT WE WILL BRING IN. UM, AND ON THE SITE PLAN, IF YOU BACK UP ONE MORE, UM, TO THE WESTERN SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A RESTROOM FACILITIES, KIND OF LIKE AT THE ROSE WITH THE, THE TRAILER, UH, INSTEAD OF JUST PLAYING PORTA JOHNS, UM, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE BARN AREA. SO YOU CAN ACCESS IT WITHOUT GOING OUTSIDE. SO IT'S AN OPEN AREA ON THE INTERIOR. SO, UM, WITH THAT, AND THEN ON THE EASTERN SIDE IS WHERE THE FOOD TRUCKS WOULD BE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS. UM, AND THEN, UH, LET'S SAY EVEN FURTHER EAST WOULD BE THAT PARKING LOT. ONE OF THE, UH, THE BENEFITS, UM, WITH THE PROJECT GOING ON TO THE NORTH OF THE, UH, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY HAD A NEED FOR A LAY DOWN AREA. SO THEY INSTALLED AT THEIR EXPENSE, UM, HALF OF THE PARKING LOTS THAT WE WOULD NEED ALREADY. SO THEY DID A GRAVEL AREA SO THAT THEY COULD, UM, AS THEY'RE MOVING THINGS IN AND OUT JUST AS A TEMPORARY BASIS, UM, THEY TOOK CARE OF A GOOD PORTION OF THAT ALREADY. WE WILL ADD, UM, ADDITIONAL GRAVEL PARKING AND THEN, UH, UPGRADE THE, A LITTLE BIT OF THE GRAVEL ACCESS DRIVE THAT GOES OUT TO EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD. LEHMAN LANE HAS BEEN INSTALLED AND PAVED THAT'S ANOTHER ACCESS POINTS. UM, AND THAT ALSO WAS INSTALLED AT THE EXPENSE OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. OKAY. WITH THAT THERE, UH, UM, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY. THERE WAS A SET OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME IN, UM, ABOUT THE, THE USE ITSELF. UM, SO FOR OUR USE, WE'RE LOOKING FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, FIVE TO 10 O'CLOCK TIMEFRAME. UM, THERE IS A POTENTIAL OF LIVE MUSIC WITHIN THE FACILITY. IT WILL FOLLOW OUR NOISE ORDINANCE. UM, THIS WILL NOT GO INTO THE, UH, THE LATER HOURS, THAT KIND OF THING. THERE WILL BE BEER SERVED AT THE FACILITY, THE LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THE SELLING OF THAT BEER. THE INTENT OF THIS IS FOR THE NONPROFIT GROUPS THAT WAS MENTIONED AT THE PREVIOUS WORK SESSION THAT THEY WILL BE IN CHARGE, SO THEY WILL GET THE LICENSE, THEY WILL DO THOSE SALES. WE HAVE TO MARK OFF AN AREA OF WHERE THAT YOU CAN HAVE THOSE SALES. SO WE WILL BE PUTTING UP EITHER SNOW FENCING OR ROPING, UM, OF AN AREA KIND OF LIKE A BEER GARDEN. SO THAT DOES HAVE TO BE [01:10:01] COURTED OFF. YES. SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR. SO WAS THAT A QUESTION REGARDLESS THAT WAS SUBMITTED OR IS THAT, WAS THAT STILL JUST PART OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? BOTH. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, I JUST WANT THERE TO BE ANY QUESTIONS OUT THERE THAT WE DIDN'T ANSWER ON THE QUESTION. SO IF YOU WOULD, I'LL GO THROUGH AND ACTUALLY READ EACH OF THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND THEN ANSWER IT THAT WAY, JUST SO WE KNOW ALL THOSE QUESTIONS HE HAD WAS THAT HE SUBMITTED, DID GET, DIDN'T GET FULLY ANSWERED. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO WEAVE THEM IN AND OUT AND SEPARATE AND SAIL. YEAH. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, SIR, IF YOU DO THAT, I'D APPRECIATE IT. YES. OKAY. UM, FIRST QUESTION WAS, UH, WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURITY AT THE EVENTS AT THE BARN? THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EVENT ITSELF WILL BE THAT NONPROFIT. SO THEY WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL SUPPLY PEOPLE AT THE SITE THAT WILL SELL THE BEER THAT WILL BE AT THE SITE ITSELF. NOW, SECURITY ITSELF, NOT LOOKING AT BRINGING IN POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SURE. UM, SECURITY REALLY WON'T BE NECESSARY. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY RESTAURANT, UH, PER SE. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE CROWDS. AREN'T GOING TO BE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF CAPACITY. SO THERE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE A, UH, A SECURITY ISSUE REGARDING LARGE CROWDS, UH, IN, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO JUST TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT THE NONPROFIT WILL LOOK FOR SINCE IT'S THEIR LICENSE FOR THE LIQUOR, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE TO WATCH FOR THE PEOPLE TO STAY WITHIN THAT AREA AND NOT GO OUT OF THE AREA, CARRYING LIQUOR TO THEIR CARS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WILL THERE BE OUTDOOR RESTROOMS? AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL HAVE THE, THE RESTROOM TRAILER AT THE END OF WHAT WHAT'S THE, UH, THE KIND OF THE RADISH COLORED ROOF, UM, AT THE, UH, THE END OF THAT IS WHERE THOSE RESTAURANTS WILL BE THE, UH, WILL THERE BE A PERMANENT BARRIER BETWEEN THE BARN AND NEIGHBORING PROPERTY? THE BARRIER FOR THE AREA WILL BE THAT SNOW FENCING AND THE RE THE ROPING OFF OF AN AREA OF WHERE THIS IS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER THERE'S TREES ALONG THAT NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE ALREADY. SO THAT'S THE BUFFER AREAS. THERE IS NO INTENT TO, UH, BUILD A FENCE, UM, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE, UH, SO THE, THE BARRIER IS THE AREA THAT'S COURTED OFF FOR THE ALCOHOL AREA AND THEN TREES, WELL, THE WILL LIVE MUSIC AND BANDS BE PERMITTED FOR ENTERTAINMENT. YES, THERE WILL BE RULES. THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE. AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WHO IS, OR WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIQUOR PERMIT. THAT IS THE NONPROFIT. SO THAT IS THE PART OF THE CONTRACT. THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO GET THAT TEMPORARY LIQUOR PERMIT. WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED COST OF REN RENOVATING THE BARN AS WAS MENTIONED AT THE, UH, PREVIOUS WORK SESSION, UM, 138,000 IS THE BUDGETED ITEM FOR THIS PROJECT. WHAT WILL THE NATURE, WHAT WILL BE THE NATURE OF OUTDOOR LIGHTING? THE PLAN IS FOR FESTIVAL LIGHTS, KIND OF LIKE WHAT'S OVER AT THE MUSIC CENTER, THE STRING LIGHTS THAT ARE INSIDE, AND THEN SOME OUTSIDE, I'M NOT INTENDING ON PUTTING IT UP LARGE POLE LIGHTS, UH THAT'S UM, GO OVER INTO NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. SO THIS WILL ALL BE WITHIN THIS AREA. LOW-HANGING TYPE LIGHTS. WHAT WILL BE THE OPERATING DAYS AND HOURS OF THE BARN? THE STANDARD IS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS FROM FIVE TO 10. THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR IF THERE'S A CONCERT AT THE ROSE, SOMETHING THAT'S BEFORE THE CONCERT. SO WE'LL SAY FIVE TO SEVEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS TAILGATING TYPE USE. SO, BUT NOTHING PAST 10 O'CLOCK. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IS WILL THE BARN BE RENTED TO INDIVIDUALS AND OR GROUPS, OR HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE TYPE VENUE THAT THE PLAN IS FOR THAT CONTRACT, WITH THE NONPROFITS, FOR THEM TO RUN IT, NOT FOR THE ADJUSTED INDIVIDUAL TO RENT IT OUT FOR A WEDDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE INTENT IS TO BRING IN THAT, UH, THAT COLLABORATION WITH THE NONPROFITS. SO THOSE, THOSE QUESTIONS, AND THAT'S DEAL WITH THAT. UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS MR. CHUCK KOWALSKI'S HERE AS WELL, UM, THAT, UH, CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THINGS RUN, UH, BUT WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY. AND IF THERE ARE NO CONCERNS, UM, WE WOULDN'T MIND, UH, WAIVING THE SECOND READING TO KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING WITH A POTENTIAL OF OPENING THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO THE NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE [01:15:01] AGREED TO OTHER THAN JUST TO MOVE THE ZONING CHANGE TO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MONDAY'S MEETING. CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OBJECTION? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ? YES, MS. BAKER, WOULD THERE BE LIKE, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO HAVE A BONFIRE FOR A TEAM, UH, TH TH TH HAVING A BONFIRE IS A POTENTIAL THERE THAT THERE WOULD BE, UH, FOLLOWING ALL FIRE CODES WITH THAT, BUT YES, THAT IS POTENTIAL THERE BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE SPORTS TEAMS, THOSE WOULD BE NONPROFITS THAT WE COULD, THAT COULD RUN IT. YES. THERE'S A BONFIRE HOME, WHATEVER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCALSKY MICHELLE MAYOR? THANK YOU. UM, WE RECEIVED COUNSEL RECEIVED A EMAIL FROM RICHARD SHAW ON MAY 18TH, OUTLINING, UH, CONTACTS AND EMAILS, VERY THOROUGH ABOUT WHAT HE'S DONE SO FAR. I'M JUST WONDERING IF HE'S SECURED ANY FUNDING, UH, THAT HE'S BEEN LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MR. LYONS. I WAS ANTICIPATING YOUR QUESTION TODAY AND I HAVE SOME GREAT NEWS. I'LL BE IN CONTACT WITH MR. SCHOMER AND OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR TOMORROW. WE HAVE TWO POSSIBLE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR UP TO $50,000 THAT COULD GO TO THIS LOCATION. UM, IF A CITY ADMINISTRATION DEEMS THAT, UH, UH, THOSE TWO GRANT OPPORTUNITIES WOULD HAVE BEEN BEST SERVED AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY. THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE RESOURCES AND THE COMMUNICATION WE'VE DONE THUS FAR, UM, ON THIS PROJECT WILL EXPAND INTO OTHER PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY. UM, BUT YES, THOSE, UH, THOSE TWO ENTITIES WILL, UH, WILL COME OUT. UH, ONE OF THEM IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION AND, UM, THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, WITHIN COLLABORATION FROM OUR FEDERAL AND STATE PARTNERS THAT, UH, LET US DOWN TO A LOCAL ENTITY. SO I, LIKE I SAID, THAT COMMUNICATION WILL GO OUT TOMORROW TO THE CITY MANAGER AND FINANCE DIRECTOR. AND, UH, UH, WE'LL PUT SCOTT AND BRIAN ON THAT EMAIL AS WELL, AND START THAT PROCESS ROLLING. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS CONCERNS? YES. MR. WEBB, CAL STATE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, A DECISION RECORD, IT REFERENCES THE, UM, COMPLIANCE, BUT THEN ANY REQUESTS BY THE, UH, BASICALLY BY CHIEF ASHWORTH, DID, UH, CHIEF PASSWORDS FOR JUDAS. DID HE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? UH, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH, UH, THE FIRE DIVISION, UM, NAMELY THINGS LIKE THE ACCESS ROADS, MAKING SURE THAT THE RIGHT WIDTH AND THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT THE FIRE TRUCKS. UM, ALSO THE PLACEMENT OF FOOD TRUCKS, UM, AND THE LINKS TO PLUG IN, SO THAT THE DISTANCE OF ANY KIND OF CORDAGE, UH, FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THE DISTANCE IN BETWEEN AND WHAT KIND OF INSPECTIONS, UM, AS WELL. SO, UH, YES, THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE PROCESS. AWESOME. I KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT PROBABLY ALREADY STOP, BUT, UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. WEBB. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN MY, IN MY HEAD? I HAVE THIS, SO I'VE WALKED IN ON 'EM, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE AND HER LIFETIME MOVIES. THIS SEEMS TO BE LIKE, UM, THAT COMMUNITY SPACE THAT YOU SEE IN JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE KIND OF MOVIES IN MY HEAD, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAVE THIS, UH, HOW THIS LOOK ALIKE. SO, UM, I THINK IN THE END, THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL BE A NEAT, I NEED SPACE AND A PLACE TO PROVIDE AN AREA FOR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER. AND, UH, SO YEAH, I, MR. BEAR, PLEASE. ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. UM, ONE OF THE ENTITIES THAT I WAS IN CONTACT WITH ASKED IF COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A NAMING RIGHT OPPORTUNITY. I'M TOTALLY NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WELL, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS THE, THE WHOLE CONVERSATION IS AS ALLUDED TO AND MR. LYONS'S STATEMENT, I HAD SENT HER COUNSEL A VERY LENGTHY EMAIL, NUMEROUS CONTACTS, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE STATEMENTS HAD COME BY IF A COUNCIL HAD CONSIDERED A NAMING RIGHTS OF OPPORTUNITY, OBVIOUSLY. UM, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKED TO THE STAFF AND COUNCIL, UM, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE TIMELINE OF THIS FACILITY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY, I MEAN, I THINK WE'D ALL LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT 52 ACRES BE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR AND IT COULD GET ONLY GET A HALF A SEASON. THE OTHER SITUATION I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, IT COULD BE A SEVERAL SEASON VENUE. UM, SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, WHEN I SEND THE COMMUNICATION OVER, UH, UH, TOMORROW TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A, UH, COUNCIL, UH, UH, ISSUE WITH THAT, UH, AND, UH, ALLOW ROB TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ENTER INTO THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. MY FIRST THOUGHT WOULD BE, I MEAN, THE CITY CERTAINLY IS, UM, UH, NOT A STRANGER TO NAMING RIGHTS AND DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. AND, [01:20:01] UM, I THINK WE'VE DONE REALLY WELL IN TERMS OF SPONSORSHIPS AND NAMING RIGHTS. SO I DON'T, I WOULDN'T THIS AS A, AS ANY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S AVAILABLE. MR. SHARMA. GREAT. THANKS. THAT'S GREAT NEWS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS? A PUBLIC HEARING ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS GUYS. LEGISLATION FOR THE MAJOR CHANGE WALLS. SOMEBODY ON THE AGENDA. YES. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE MOVE RIGHT INTO THE LEGISLATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT [ Board and Commission Appointments * Arts and Beautification Commission] STEP IS I AM THREE H, WHICH IS OUR BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. UH, I'LL HAVE MR. ROGERS. I TAKE IT FROM HERE. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE THREE OF THESE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS THE FIRST IS A REAPPOINTMENT TO THE ARTS OF BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION. UH, THAT WOULD BE FOR CINDY DAVIDSON, UH, FOR A NEW TERM ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2023. WE HAVE UPDATED OUR BACKGROUND CHECK AND, UM, UH, THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF CITY STAFF FOR THAT REAPPOINTMENT. THE SECOND IS A, A APPOINTMENT OF SHEILA BALOR TO THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD, UH, FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2021. THIS IS AN UNEXPIRED TERM. AND AGAIN, THE BACKGROUND CHECK, UM, IS IN PROCESS. AND, UM, WE ONLY HAD ONE APPLICANT WHO WAS MRS. VALOR, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR VACANCY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT TO THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE A APPOINTMENT, UH, TO THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSIONED FOR UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2022. AGAIN, THE BACKGROUND CHECK WAS COMPLETED ON, UH, MR. TOM, HIS VAN. UM, AGAIN, HE WAS THE ONLY APPLICANT FOR THAT CURRENT VACANCY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, THE APPOINTMENT OF MR. UH, HIS FANS ARE THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION. UM, I WILL ALSO MENTION, UH, WE STILL HAVE, UH, CURRENT VACANCIES BEYOND THESE, UH, ONE VACANCY ON THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION, UH, ONE VACANCY ON THE ARTS BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION, AND ONE ON THE ONE VACANCY ON THE PERSONNEL APPEALS BOARD. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED SEND THEM OUR WAY. UM, BUT WE'D ASKED THAT THESE, UH, UH, TWO APPOINTMENTS IN ONE REAPPOINTMENT WOULD BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR ADOPTION BY COUNCIL BY MOTION. THANKS, TONY. REMIND ME, DO WE DO, UM, IT WILL DO. THERE'LL BE INDIVIDUALLY INDIVIDUAL APPROVALS. YEAH. YEAH. THEY WON'T BE DONE COLLECTIVELY. THERE'LL BE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS. OKAY. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, AND OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THE APPOINTMENTS OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. YES. MRS. BERG. UH, YEAH. WHEN, WHEN DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE, UH, REORGANIZATION AND IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT RESTRUCTURING OF THE COMMITTEES WITHIN, UH, UNDER THE PARKS AND REC, OKAY, THAT'S AN ITEM I WILL HAVE ON THE, ON THE, UH, EITHER THE NEXT OR THE WORK SESSION AGENDA NOW THAT WE ARE BACK ON, THEY CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ONCE OUR, UH, PARKS AND REC BOARD AND THE AMB BOARD, NOW THAT WE ARE KIND OF BACK TO A MAJORITY OF, UH, OF IN PERSON MEETINGS, OR WE CAN START HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN WE WILL. UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEE THAT ON THE, ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO BEGIN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. YUP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, ANY OBJECTION TO THOSE NAMED INDIVIDUALS FOR APPOINTMENT ON MONDAY'S MEETING. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE WE WILL FIND THOSE. AND I BELIEVE THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ABOUT IT. SO THANKS EVERYONE. APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION. IT IS NOW SEVEN 23 AND, UM, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.