* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL RIGHT. [00:00:01] I THINK I'D LIKE TO CALL TO, OR THE ORDER, THE [ AGENDA ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road October 21, 2024 6:30 P.M. ] ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION MEETING AND WE'RE STARTING AT 6 34. UM, OCTOBER 21ST. UM, SARAH, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? YES, MS. BURKE. MS. BRANDENBURG? HERE. MS. DANIEL? HERE. MR. FOX? PRESENT? MS. HENRY? HERE. MS. TEAK? HERE. MS. WOODRUFF? HERE. ALRIGHT. WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WROTE TO SAY THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT? I FOR MS. UM, I DID NOT HEAR FROM ASHLEY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID. AND THEN, UM, STELLA HAS RESIGNED HER POSITION ON THE BOARD IF ANYBODY DIDN'T KNOW THAT. ALRIGHT, SO LEMME REPEAT THAT. OKAY. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OPENING REMARKS, SO NO CITIZEN COMMENTS. UM, OLD BUSINESS, WE DID HAVE A MOVIE NIGHT. HOW DO WE THINK IT WENT? I THOUGHT IT WAS SURPRISINGLY WELL ATTENDED. . . SORRY I WASN'T THERE. I DIDN'T, I MEAN, I DIDN'T EXPECT THE TURNOUT THAT WE GOT. I THINK WE PROBABLY HAD CLOSE TO 100 PEOPLE. MAYBE MORE PEOPLE CAME AFTER I LEFT. MM-HMM? . YEAH. DON UP. I MEAN, BOTH ROOMS IN THE MIDDLE, BUT IN THE MIDDLE. YEAH. YOU KNOW. YEAH. WE HAD A NUMBER OF 'EM THAT AS SOON AS SHANNON FOLDED UP THE POPCORN MACHINE, THEY ALL SHOWED UP IN ONE POPCORN. . YEAH. SORRY. YEAH. BUT IT DID LOOK LIKE WE WERE GONNA GET ANY ANYMORE. DID I? YOU KNOW, SO, BUT WE HANDED OUT CANDY, SO. WELL, THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. YEAH. HE DID EV EVERYBODY SEEMED TO HAVE A GOOD TIME, BUT, OKAY. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. DOES ANYBODY LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING A, UM, SINCE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THE WEATHER'S GONNA BE, IS, DID EVERYBODY THINK THAT THE, UH, DRIVE-IN MOVIE NIGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR OCTOBER? OCTOBER? I DON'T KNOW. PEOPLE. LITTLE CHILLY, BUT YEAH. BUT I MEAN, IT GAVE PEOPLE A PLACE TO GO TO BE WARM. THEY COULD BE IN THEIR CAR AND STUFF. I MEAN, DRIVE-IN. YEAH. THE DRIVE-IN WAS PROBABLY A BETTER MOVE THAN THE AMPHITHEATER AT THAT POINT. THEY COULD STAY IN THE CAR, SO YEAH. WORKED THAT WAY. I THOUGHT IT DID. I WAS SURPRISED. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY MORE OLD BUSINESS? OKAY. UM, ART SHOW. WE ARE, THAT IS GOING TO BE FEBRUARY USUALLY. UM, IF WE CONTINUE TO GO WITH THAT TRAJECT TRAJECTORY, I WOULD SAY YES. DID WE PICK A DATE? 'CAUSE DIDN'T WE DO SOME EARLY FLYERS? I THINK WE ANNOUNCED THE DATE. YEAH. UM, NOT TO LIKE JUMP AHEAD, BUT SOMEBODY HAD PUT, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ART FESTIVAL IN THIS ACTIVITY, THEY HAD SAID OUTSIDE QUESTION MARK, SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WHOEVER PUT THAT WANTED TO TALK ABOUT YOUR MAYBE HAVING IT OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE IN WINTERTIME. WELL, IT COULD INVOLVE A DATE CHANGE. LIKE YEAH. WHO WANTED TO DO A, A SUMMER FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING? RIGHT. OH, OH, OKAY. AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING A, A PERFORMING ARTS SITUATION BEFORE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE ALL LIKE PERFORMING ARTS AND ART AND, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL ART AND SCULPTURES AND ALL DIFFERENT KIND OF FORMS AND DOING IT, YOU KNOW, IN A PARK THAT NEVER REALLY CAME OFF. WE WERE, I THINK YOU WERE ON COMMITTEE AT ONE POINT WITH THE PERFORMING ARTS GROUP. WELL, GAVIN GAVIN'S WIFE IS, IS INVOLVED WITH THAT AND IT JUST NEVER GOT OFF THE GROUND. BUT I SUPPOSE WE COULD REVISIT THAT FOR THE SUMMER. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD REPLACE OUR FEBRUARY OUR SHOW. I THINK PEOPLE WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING MOMENTUM WITH THAT. I THINK WHERE PEOPLE EXPECTED. AND THAT DATE WAS, UH, FEBRUARY 15TH. OH, OKAY. I PICKED WHICH BEING IS FEBRUARY, VALENTINE'S DAY IS THE DAY BEFORE. THAT MIGHT WORK OUT VERY WELL FOR US. YEAH. AND THE OTHER THING WE DISCUSSED WAS THE, UM, SCHOLARSHIP AND WHAT HAPPENED. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A SCHOLARSHIP CAME OUT THERE THAT WE'VE NEVER AWARDED AND IT'S WHAT, A THOUSAND, 2000? I DON'T REMEMBER THE POINT. THE AMOUNT. YEAH. BUT IT SEEMED TO BE SOME AMBIGUITY, UH, ORIGINALLY WITH THE SPONSOR OF THAT WANTED TO SEE SOME OTHER BESIDES JUST, UH, ART ARTWORK [00:05:01] OH. BEING DONE INCLUDED. AND THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THAT INCLUDE, UH, WRITING. OH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS LIKE, UH, AND BY THE WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS, I MEAN LIKE SOMEBODY LIKE SHORT STORY AUTHORS OR POETRY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I DUNNO, I HAVE NO IDEA. THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE BY T-MOBILE WASN. THEY GO AND, WELL, I THINK THEY GAVE IT TO US ONCE THEY GAVE IT TO US. AND THEN IT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE WHAT THE CRITERIA IS. IF WE GIVE IT OUT AT THAT ART SHOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S WHATEVER MEETING WE, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE KIDS. I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS YEAR WE NEED TO PICK LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT THAT MAYBE QUALIFIES TO MAYBE GOING TO COLLEGE. AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS FOR THAT WOULD BE. BUT THE CRITERIA THAT YOU CHOOSE WILL BE UP TO YOU ALL. UM, WE NEED TO DO IS WITH THE ART SHOW FORM, LIKE THE I I WANT PARTICIPATE FORM THE SIGN UP. UM, THEY'LL NEED TO ALSO COMPLETE THE FORM APPLYING FOR THE SCHOLARSHIP. RIGHT. UM, BUT THE ACTUAL CRITERIA, IF YOU WANT TO AWARD IT TO THE ACTUAL FIRST PLACE WINNERS IN EACH CATEGORY, OR IF YOU WANT TO GIVE IT TO SOME, A COMBINATION OF JUST PARTICIPATING, BUT THEN ALSO ACADEMIC AND YOU WANT A SMALL BLURB, A COUPLE PARAGRAPHS WRITTEN UP OF WHY THEY WANT THIS SCHOLARSHIP. SO THE ACTUAL CRITERIA YOU ALL CAN DECIDE. UM, I JUST KNOW THAT FOR THE DAYTON FOUNDATION WHERE THE MONEY'S BEING HELD, THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE THAT FORM ALONGSIDE IT. SO WHAT WOULD THEY DECIDE? MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT, I MEAN, TO REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET IT TO LIKE ONE STUDENT. WE CAN'T JUST, I THINK THERE MIGHT BREAK IT UP LIKE FOUR, $500 AWARDS. I THINK THERE'S $5,000 AND I THINK THINK THAT MIGHT JUST, THE THOUGHT WAS TWO YEARS OF AWARD EACH FOR 2,500. I THINK IT WAS 5,002. I OKAY. SO, BUT THAT YOU COULD DO A FIRST PLACE OF 1500, A SECOND OF A THOUSAND OR, BUT THAT DOESN'T SAY WE DON'T TRY TO GET MORE FOR THE SCHOLARSHIPS TO KEEP IT GOING YEAR AFTER YEAR. MM-HMM. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE. OH YEAH. TO TRY TO LOOK AT YOU DO AMONG GRADE CIRCLE. SO, MM-HMM. . AND THEN, UM, IT CURRENTLY WAS LISTED ON THERE THAT YOU HAD TO GO INTO MAJORING IN ART, BUT THEN I BELIEVE IT WAS GREG HAD SAID IT'D BE NICE TO JUST GIVE IT TO ANYBODY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANNA MAJOR IN ART AS LONG AS THEY, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATED IN A SHOW. AND YEAH. AND IT'S, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A LOT OF STUFF WHERE PEOPLE ARE TAKING, UH, CREATING ART BY WELDING. WELL, I MEAN, YEAH. THERE'S A, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WELD, I SUPPOSE. SCHOOL. YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD, OH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COLLEGE, YOU'RE GOING TO WELDING SCHOOL TO CONTINUE YOUR ART. OR OUR TRADE SCHOOL RATHER. WELL TRADE SCHOOL. I, I THINK ANY CONTINUING EDUCATION, RIGHT? YEAH. WE NEED, AND I GUESS IF WE'RE, IF WE'VE GOT OUR APPLICATION OUT THERE NOW FOR THE ARTS SHOW, IS THAT ALREADY POSTED YET? NO, I THINK WE, DID WE DO YOU SAVE THE DATES OR SOMETHING? I FORGET WHICH EVENT WE PICKED THE DATE WE NEED. I THINK THAT, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING'S UP THERE YET FOR IT. SO YEAH, I GUESS WE NEED TO SOMEHOW GET IT ON THE CALENDAR AND THEN MAYBE JUST START PROMOTING THIS BECAUSE WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF CRITERIA THOUGH. I MEAN, THAT'S, ARE THERE A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT WANNA ? BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE GETTING REAL CLOSE HERE. I MEAN, WE'RE WITHIN RIGHT UP A DRAFT TO HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING. YOU WANNA ADD? I CAN. I'LL DRAFT SOMETHING. THANK YOU CHERYL. MM-HMM. . AND IF IT, AT ANY POINT IN WRITING THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DATE AND FOUNDATION STUFF THEY FOUND OUT JUST BEFORE. OKAY. I DIDN'T. DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN EXTRA OH NO. I CAN GET ONE. USUALLY THERE'S SOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I USUALLY HAVE A PENCIL SLIP ATTACHED TO MY THANK YOU . MY, MY PURSE IS LIKE THE NEVER ENDING. OH, THERE A PEN? YES I DO. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. OKAY. UM, I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE ART SHOW PER SE, BUT ADDING MORE ART FOR [00:10:01] NEXT YEAR. UM, I WAS LOOKING AT A MOSAIC. UM, IT'S A CAMPAIGN TO GET CITIES TO DO, UM, LIFE, LIFE SIZE, UM, ARTWORK ON BUILDINGS. AND THERE'S THIS OF TREES LIKE EVERYBODY DOES KIND OF LIKE OUR TILE PROJECT. BUT, UM, IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S, THEY STARTED IT IN SOMEWHERE IN CANADA AND UM, IT'S JUST, YOU WORK ON IT AND YOU GATHER MONEY FOR IT AND, UH, YOU CHAMPION IT AND, AND WE FIND OUT WHAT BUILDING WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ON. AND THEN YOU GATHER A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT AND DO A TILE AND THEN YOU PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER. OH. KIND OF SAME, SAME KIND OF CONCEPT AS OUR TILE PROJECT, BUT IT'S A OUTDOOR MM-HMM. DISPLAY. THAT'D BE SOMETHING SOMEWHAT LIKE THE, UH, MEMORIAL THEY DID DOWN AT THE OREGON DISTRICT. THE MOSAIC INSTITUTE DID THAT ONE. UM, AND I HAVE SOME CONNECTIONS THERE THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY HELP. THEY'RE REALLY BUSY THOUGH. I HAD ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THEM ABOUT WORKING WITH US AND THEY'RE NOW ON EVERYBODY'S HOT LIST JOB AGAIN. WELL, SO PLANNING ON THIS WOULD TAKE, I MEAN, IF WE STARTED TODAY PLANNING ON IT, IT'D BE LIKELY IT'D BE BUILDING IT AND DOING INSTALLATION IN SUMMER OF 26. CORRECT. I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T DIVE DIVE DEEP INTO THE, THE ROOTS OF IT. I JUST KIND OF SAW IT THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL. WE'VE HAD SOMEONE SAY LIKE, UM, THAT HAVE CAME OR SENT US AN EMAIL ABOUT DOING MEMORIAL MEMORIALS ON WALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UM, I JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A, A GOOD THING TO, INSTEAD OF LIKE AN ONLINE SITE, YOU CAN GO OUT AND KIND OF GET INFORMATION ON IT. YEAH. YEAH. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IT. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA, SHANNON. BUT REALISTICALLY, I THINK JUST A QUESTION REALLY FOR BOTH OF YOU. I MEAN, 20 SUMMER 26 WOULD KIND TO BE THE MOST REALISTIC OR OPTION. I DON'T KNOW THE PROGRAM THAT SHANNON'S REFERRING TO SPECIFICALLY. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A GUIDED PROGRAM. YEAH. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE. I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GONNA TRY PARTNER WITH THE MOSAIC INSTITUTE WOULD BE AT LEAST LATE NEXT YEAR. UM, SO, BUT SHANE WANTS TO FIND MORE INFORMATION AND, WELL, I THOUGHT WE HAVE LOOK AT THE SITE AND YEAH. I CAN SHARE THE SITE WITH YOU EVERYBODY. OKAY. BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR NOT, BUT I DON'T THINK SO. THIS IS A LOCAL, OH, THIS IS CANADA. OKAY, GREAT. THERE LIKE IDEA, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BLANK WALLS AROUND TOWN COULD BE UTILIZED. WHICH KIND OF LEADS ME TO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH HA HAS OUR PRIOR TILE PROJECT, IS IT MOUNTED YET OR DO WE HAVE ANY KIND PLANS TO HAVE IT? IT'S MOUNTED IN. IT IS MOUNTED. OKAY. I HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THERE, SO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. I'LL HAVE TO GO SEE IT. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. I KNOW I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. OKAY, COOL. WELL THAT'S EXCITING. MM-HMM. , VERY EXCITING. ANYTHING ABOUT ART SHOW PLANS? ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE SOMEONE WHO'S KIND OF THE CHAMPION OF THAT EVENT? IF I HAVE QUESTIONS TO ASK, I'M HAPPY TO BE YOUR POINT. I'VE BEEN TO ALL OF 'EM, SO I MEAN, I KIND OF KNOW WHAT IS EXPECTED AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S PRETTY LOW KEY. BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF RETURNING PEOPLE. THE MAIN THING IS GETTING THE SCHOOLS INVOLVED BECAUSE THE KIDS REALLY GET INTO IT. IF WE CAN GET 'EM MOTIVATED AND, AND A LOT OF 'EM, ONE YEAR WE HAD JUST ABOUT, WE HAD PARTICIPATION IN SEVERAL SCHOOLS LAST YEAR. I THINK IT WAS VERY, WE HAD, WELL WE HAD A COUPLE ELEMENTARIES LAST YEAR, A COUPLE HOME SCHOOLS, A COUPLE INDIVIDUAL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. UM, IN THE PAST I'VE JUST EMAILED THE SCHOOLS, THE ART TEACHER OR CALLED THEM HOWEVER BEST I CAN GET AHOLD OF THEM. AND THEN ONE OR TWO WILL SAY YES, IF YOU CAN DO THAT. I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE TAKE ON COMING UP WITH SOME, SOME AWARDS FOR THE KIDS. 'CAUSE THEY DO, SOME OF THOSE KIDS ARE AMAZING. THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON, I KNOW AT THE END WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. DO WE WANT THE ARTISTS TO DO, WE DECIDE THEY CAN SELL. THERE'S NO PROHIBITION FROM US. OKAY. SO IF THEY WANT TO ACTIVELY SELL AT THE ART SHOW, BY ALL MEANS. I I REALLY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. THERE'S STILL RULES. MORE PEOPLE OR I THINK YOU'LL GET MORE PEOPLE IN IF YOU, I I THINK SO TOO. THAT'S WHAT HELD US BACK LAST YEAR. YEAH. [00:15:01] MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN COMING IN SELLING OR YEAH. THERE'S NOTHING PROHIBITING THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO PROMOTE IT HUGE, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT, THAT DO WANNA SELL. THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO ADD THAT. AND EVERYBODY WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THEIR OWN MONEY SALES. YEAH. KIND OF LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL VENDOR OR WHATEVER. SO WOULD THAT BE MORE OF A VENDOR KIND OF BOOTH? IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO DIFFERENTLY? DO YOU WANT TO CHARGE A FEE FOR THOSE SELLING THEIR ART? IT COULD BE A WAY TO REC RECRUIT MONEY TOWARD THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND. HOW THAT, HOW SO? IF WE GET A COMMISSION OF WHAT THEY, NO, WE JUST CHARGE EM 50 BUCKS CHARGE. IF THEY'RE GONNA BE SELLING ART, WE'RE CHARGE YOU 50 BUCKS TO GET IT. RIGHT. THAT THINK THE STIPULATION THAT WE CAN'T EXCHANGE THE PRODUCT UNTIL AT THE END OF THE SHOW AND IT'S STILL THERE. THAT'S PRETTY COMMON. YEAH. YEAH. I GUESS I, I, YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO COME UP WITH AN AMOUNT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE PROHIBITIVE OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. , SOME OF THE PEOPLE PROBABLY AREN'T GONNA SELL ANYTHING LIKE $50, LIKE SHE SAID, SELLING SOMETHING LOW, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN AFFORD AND WILLING TO DO. WELL THAT CAUSE ANY TROUBLE WITH, IF WE DID THAT $50 A BOOTH AND THEN HAD STUDENTS COME AND THEN PICK FOR A SCHOLARSHIP, DOES THAT HAVE ANY CONFLICT THERE? YEAH. I WOULDN'T THINK IT, IF A STUDENT HAS TO PAY $50 TO DISPLAY THEIR ART, WELL, WOULD WE ONLY CHARGE THE ONES THAT WE'RE SELLING ONLY? YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. OKAY. SO LIKE, THE KIDS THAT COME FROM THE GRADE SCHOOL SHOULD STOP. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE, THEY COULD SELL IF THEY WANTED, IF THEY WANTED TO. UM, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOUR, YOUR PROCESS FOR SELECTING A WINNER IS INDEPENDENT FROM, YOU KNOW, ALL HAND THE VENDOR MONEY. MM-HMM. . I'M NOT THE WINNER. AND JUST AS WE, IF YOU PUT IT THROUGH SAYING THAT THE $50 GOES TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE SCHOLARSHIP. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. THAT WAY THEY DON'T THINK YOU'RE JUST MAKING MONEY. YEAH. YEAH. DO YOU WANT ME TO WORK ON LIKE A, A FLYER FOR THE ART HARDSHIP TOO? OR HOW DO WE DO, I MEAN, IS THERE AN APPLICATION THAT THEY NORMALLY FILL AT? IS THERE, I THINK THERE'S AN APPLICATION ONLINE THAT THEY NORMALLY ALLOW. YOU JUST ADD, IF YOU WISH TO SELL YOUR ARTWORK, THERE'S A $50 VENDOR FEE, WHICH GOES TOWARDS THE SCHOLARSHIP NOW. SOMETHING TO GIVE SOME DOCTORS WHO'S GONNA JUDGE. THAT'S TRUE. IF WE WANT TO DO IT, WOULD WE BE WISER TO GET INDEPENDENT JUDGES? I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING INDEPENDENT JUDGES, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE, MUCH MORE WELL VERSED THAN I AM. I SUPPOSE WE COULD GET I WOULDN'T, I WOULD THINK MAYBE CITY COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO DO IT. YEAH. I MEAN THEY ALWAYS COME AND SUPPORT THE ART SHOW. THAT'S TRUE. THEY COULD GET A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANT TO GO ON A COMMITTEE TO JUDGE. IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I I HEARD IT OVER IN THIS THIS YEAR AND, UH, SHOWS I DONE THE PAST, YOU HAVE A SET UP TIME AND THEN YOUR JUDGES COME IN AND JUDGE AND, AND THEN THE SHOW DOESN'T OPEN FOR EVEN A COUPLE HOURS LATER. SO THERE'S NOT JUDGE, WE'VE NEVER GIVEN ANY AWARDS BEFORE. MM-HMM. THIS WOULD BE THAT THERE'S TIME THAT WE EVER HAVE EVER ACTUALLY GIVEN ANY AWARDS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO CONFINE IT JUST TO THE, THE SCHOOL. WELL THAT'S ANOTHER THING. DO WE WANT TO, IN ADDITION TO THE MONETARY SCHOLARSHIPS, DO WE WANT TO HAVE SOME OTHER AWARDS? WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE FOR THE GRADE SCHOOL KIDS THAT AREN'T REALLY GONNA BE APPLYING FOR A SCHOLARSHIP, WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEST IN SHOW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BANKERS CHOICE? OR IS THAT, IS THAT COUNTERPRODUCTIVE? WELL, I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA WHEN JAY CAME TO SPEAK ABOUT PUTTING THE ART IN THE CITY BUILDINGS. MAYBE WE PICKED SOMEONE FROM THE ART SHOW TO DISPLAY THEIR ART AT DIFFERENT BUILDING. OH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. RATHER THAN YEAH. THEN MONEY. UH, BUT MAYBE RECOGNITION OF THEIR ART AND MAYBE WE COULD GET THE LIBRARY INVOLVED AND SAY, CAN WE PUT SOME ART HERE OF THIS WINTER? MAYBE FIRST, SECOND PLACE WE TALKED TO THOSE PLACES AND SEE FIRST, SECOND, OR THIRD. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T REALLY EVEN NEED TO COME UP WITH UNTIL . NO, WE'RE READY TO GO. BUT IT WILL TAKE SOME WORK OF WHERE ARE WE GONNA, WHERE ARE WE GONNA ASK TO PUT 'EM IN? YOU'RE RIGHT. WE MAY WANNA THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, YOU KNOW, LIKE, [00:20:01] UM MM-HMM. MOST TRADITIONAL, MOST OLIVE GUARD. UM, YEAH. YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHO IS GONNA BE INVOLVED IN OH, CLASSIFICATIONS. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THE PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS TO BE COMPETING AGAINST THE FIRST GRADERS. YOU KNOW, , WHY NOT THE FIRST GRAD GRADERS WILL HAVE IT ALL THE WAY . BUT IT WOULD BE KIND OF INTERESTING IF YOU GOT SOME FIRST GRADER PUMP OUT A BUNCH PROFESSIONAL ART. SOME OF 'EM PRETTY YARD. I WAS, WHEN WE DID THAT TILE PROJECT, I WAS SHOCKED. IT TOOK ME LIKE THREE TIMES TO GET A PIECE OF TILE, BUT I WASN'T EMBARRASSED TO PUT ON THE WASH. AND THESE KIDS WERE JUST KICKING THEM OUT LIKE CRAZY THAT ONE LITTLE GIRL. I MEAN, SHE'S LIKE, DAMN. CAN I HAVE ANOTHER? ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DECIDE OTHER THAN LIKE A FEW BLACK TABLECLOTH? UM, YEAH, WE ALWAYS NEED TO DO THAT. BLACK TABLECLOTHS. MM-HMM. . I MEAN SOMETIMES I, I DON'T EVEN, MAYBE BALLOONS. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO BALLOONS. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE NICE? A FLAG? ONE OF THOSE HIGH FLAGS THAT SAY ART SHOW. OH. LIKE A DANA. MM-HMM. TO PUT OUT IN FRONT OF THE VENT. SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANNA, WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENT PAINTS. I GUESS WE JUST NEED TO GET ONE THAT SAYS ARCH ARCH SHOW. YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO, I WOULD DONATE THAT, THAT AND JUST A LITTLE SLICK OFF COUCHER. BUT WOULD WE WANT TO THINK NEXT YEAR ABOUT MAYBE DOING A, LIKE A SMALLER VERSION OF THE ART SHOW AS PART OF THE FARMER'S MARKET? OH GOSH, I DON'T, THAT'S A WHOLE THING. YOU MEAN MORE WHOLE OTHER TREE IN THE WINTER? I, WELL, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD DECIDE TONIGHT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE GET PAST THIS ART SHOW AND THINK MAYBE PERHAPS TALK TO SOME OF THE ARTISTS, SOME OF THE KIDS. OF COURSE THAT'S PRETTY MUCH OPEN NOW TO THE FARMER'S MARKET. PEOPLE SELL THEIR, THEIR CRAFTS AND THINGS. I GUESS THEY COULD KIND ALL WORK TOO. WELL WE'D LIKE, WE'VE HAD A PHOTOGRAPHER AND A PAINTER PICK A DAY EACH MONTH, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE AN ARTS FEATURE ART TYPE OF THING. THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. OH, ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE SHIP. DO WE WANNA HAVE LIKE, MUSIC AGAIN? YES. I'D LIKE TO GET THAT ONE. SHE WAS FANTASTIC. SHE WAS ONE OF THE HOMESCHOOLERS THAT REACHED OUT TO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. IF WE COULD FIND SOMEBODY. I MEAN THEY WERE LOCAL ARTISTS THAT I, I THINK WE PUT IT UP ON FACEBOOK. SO IF WE WANT TO DO THAT. UM, LAST YEAR DIDN'T REALLY VET THEM 'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE A LAST MINUTE EDITION. BUT IF SOMEBODY, WE WANTED TO VET THEM OR, YEAH, I THINK IT'S NICE. I THINK IT'S, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT LOUD AND CRAZY. YEAH. IT VERY, VERY NICE BACKGROUND. COURSE WE'LL DO LIKE DO YOU WANNA THE SAME TIME ? WHAT DID WE DO? UH, ONE NO WE DIDN'T. LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT. I THINK WE WANTED TO MOVE IT DOWN FROM AN HOUR, DIDN'T WE? ONE, TWO. DO WE WANT TO JUST DO IT FIVE? YEAH, IT WAS, IT WENT ON TO THAT LAST HOUR. WHERE DID WE STARTED IT? WELL, WE HAD TO BE THERE AT NOON FOR SET UP. YEAH, WE HAVE TO BE THERE. BUT I THINK WE STARTED AT ONE, AT ONE TO SIX. IF YOU'RE GONNA DO AWARDS, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE YOUR SET UP TIME. LIKE HAVE ARTISTS ARRIVE AT 10 TO 11. SO THEN YOU HAVE 11 TO ONE OR YOUR JUDGES TO COME IN AND IT'S TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BE LATE AND YEAH. BUT YOU, THAT COULD BE TWO SHIFTS OF VOLUNTEERS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GETTING SET UP, YOU AREN'T NECESSARILY STAYING TILL FIVE MM-HMM. BUT YEAH, FROM, UM, I WOULD SAY TILL FIVE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ARE DRIVING IN. I MEAN THAT WAY WE'RE AFTER LUNCH, BUT BEFORE DINNER. MM-HMM. , THAT KIND OF THING. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE ART SHOW PLANS? MM. ALRIGHT. FOR THE, THE NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE TREE LIGHTING PLANS. MM-HMM. . WHICH MOST OF EVERYTHING'S PLANNED. UH, WE DON'T HAVE A, UNLESS SARAH'S DONE IT, A SCHEDULE OF EVENTS. I HAVEN'T DONE IT. UM, SO THERE'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE OF EVENTS EITHER. I KNOW REMIX IS COMING. [00:25:01] I KNOW SANTA WILL BE THERE. THE WHOLE DURATION. REMIXES AVAILABLE. DURATION. I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE HAY BRIDE. SO YOU PUT A BONE IN THEIR EAR? YES. UM, I KNOW, UM, MONTICELLO IS COMING TO SEE THE KIDS. SO WE JUST HAVE WHAT KNOW WHAT TIME THAT WE PREFER. DO YOU GUYS WANNA JUST DECIDE THAT NOW? YEAH. WHAT TIME DID WE REMIX WILL BE THERE THE WHOLE TIME. RIGHT? THE WHOLE TIME. AND DOING SOUND PRODUCTION FOR EVERYONE THAT ATTEND. YEAH. OKAY. ABOUT IF WE PUT MONTICELLO KIND OF WHAT IS THE TREE LIGHTING FROM? FROM LIKE WHAT, FIVE TO I CAN'T NOW, BUT LIKE WE PUT THEM LIKE SIX. WELL, WHAT'S GOING TO CONFLICT WITH THE LIGHTING? THE LIGHTING WILL BE, WHAT WOULD BE COOL IS THAT THEY WOULD STAND AROUND THE TREE AND SING WHEN WE LIGHTING THE TREE. IF, IF MONTICELLO WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. ST. CAROL'S SEE CAROL'S AROUND THE TREE. YEAH. AND THEN MAYBE GO UP AND STAGE. JUST HAVE PAUSE FOR THE COUNTDOWN. WE USUALLY LIGHT THE TREE AROUND SIX. IS THAT WHEN I THINK LAST YEAR WE LIGHT IT, LET IT AT FIVE. DIDN'T WE LIKE, OH, DID WE GET THAT EARLY? OKAY. WE CAN, YOU CAN DO UH, WHATEVER THOUGH. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'LL BE DARK BY WHAT? BECAUSE TIME CHANGES BE PULLED ON. SO IT'LL BE DARK MUCH BY FIVE . YEAH, I GUESS WE COULD, DO YOU WANT THE WEATHER FIVE 15 LIGHTING HOURS? MY SUNSET IS FIVE 12. THAT, THAT DAY? YEAH. THE HOURS I, YEAH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE OFFICIAL HOURS ARE FOR THE TWO LIGHTING. FIVE TO SEVEN MM-HMM. FIVE TO SEVEN. FIVE TO SEVEN. OH, OKAY. WELL LET'S DO, UM, LET'S DO FIVE 30. FIVE 30. IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT DARKER. FIVE 30 FOR THE TWO. AND THEY HAVE MONTICELLO COME AT FIVE 30 AND THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE SET UP BY FIVE 30. I THINK THAT, I MEAN DO YOU WANT HAVE THEM DO THE WARM UP? WELL IS THE COMING AND LAYING A TREE OR DOES ANYBODY KNOW ANY OF THAT? WE JUST HAVE TO ASK THEM. UNLESS YOU SPOKE TO HIM ALREADY. I HAVEN'T YET, NO. WILL YOU ALSO SPEAK TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ABOUT JUDGING IF YOU WANT THEM TO JUDGE ARCHON? OH YEAH, PLEASE. YEAH. WE PROBABLY SHOULD GET, WE ONLY NEED LIKE THREE OF 'EM I GUESS, BUT, OKAY. WHAT TIME DID YOU SAY MONTICELLO THEN? DID YOU DECIDE FIVE 30? I THOUGHT THE TREE WAS FIVE 30 OR WAS IT LIKE RIGHT AFTER THEY'RE GOING? YEAH. WHAT? LIKE RIGHT AFTER THE LIKE YEAH. WHAT IF THE LIGHTS OFF AND THEN THEY SIT LIKE CHARLIE BROWN. OKAY. WHAT TIME IS UH, SANTA ARRIVING? UH, HE'LL BE THERE THE WHOLE DURATION. SO AT HE'LL BE THERE ONE O'CLOCK. YEP. HE'LL BE THERE. 1, 4, 5. SO THEN WHENEVER WE ROLL HIM OUT YEAH. BUT DON'T WE HAVE THE LAST THING HEARD CHRISTMAS PARADE WAS GONNA BE IT'S ON CHAMBERSBURG. CHAMBERSBURG. YEAH. HE'S QUI IS DOING A PARADE ON CHAMBERSBURG. AND THEN SOMEHOW AT THE END OF THAT, THAT WAS GONNA BE, WE WERE GONNA DO IT IN THE AFTERNOON AND THEN SOMEHOW ELEMENTS OF THAT ARE GONNA GET FROM CHAMBERSBURG TO THEY'RE NOT COMING. NO, WE'RE COMING. WELL THEY'RE NOT GONNA WALK THERE. NO, THEY'RE NOT COMING. THEY'RE NOT COMING AT ALL. NO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. CHANGE FROM WHEN HEARD CHURCH, I IMAGINE PEOPLE MIGHT COME FROM IT. YEAH. WITH THE PARADE. PARADE AND MEMBERS PARADE OR NOT. WELL MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY MEANT. THEY WERE GONNA ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME, COME AFTER THE PARADE. RIGHT. WOULD YOU GUYS BE OKAY IF I ASKED A COUPLE DANCE GROUPS TO KIND OF DO 15, 20 MINUTES? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK MORE THE MERRIER BECAUSE KIDS SOMETIMES ARE WAITING IN THAT LINE A LONG TIME AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ENTERTAIN THEM. I DO LIKE THE WAY WE LINED UP LAST YEAR OR ALONG THE SIDE. WE DON'T USE THE STAGE. LET THE STAGE DO THE ENTERTAINMENT PART. YEAH. WE HAD A COUPLE OF CLOSE CALLS TWO YEARS AGO. YEAH. WE DON'T WANT SAM UP ON STAGE. THAT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL LAST YEAR. AND THEN REMIX CAME FILL. YEAH, WHEREVER. [00:30:03] OKAY. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO, WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING. WE'VE GOT PACKAGES DOWN THERE. I ACTUALLY, I'VE GOT ONE MORE MARKET THERE. I GUESS I CAN GO DOWN TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT CONDITION THEY'RE IN, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME BIG WRAP BOXES THAT ARE STILL DOWN IN THE INPHI. THE BOOKS ARE DOWN THERE. THEY'RE ALL IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. SO I THINK THAT'S COVERED. I THINK WE DID DECIDE NOT TO BUY MORE BOOKS. I'M JUST GONNA TRY TO GET RID OF WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW AND START OVER AGAIN NEXT YEAR. I HAVE A TON OF CANDY CANES THAT I CAN DONATE. OKAY. AND I WANT TO SAY USUALLY THE GIRL SCOUTS COME AND THEY DO SOMETHING TOO. UM, I CAN REACH OUT TO UH, THEM. WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO HELP, LIKE SERVE COOKIES OR, OR SERVE THE GIFTS MAYBE? YEAH, WE CAN SEE WHAT THEY WANTED. SEE WHAT THEY WANNA DO BECAUSE YEAH, AS FAR AS BEFORE, WE ALWAYS HAD MRS. SANTA TO HAND OUT THE BOOKS AND STUFF WHILE SANTA AND I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A MRS. SANTA. DO WE HAVE ANY ELSE OR ANYBODY SCHEDULED TO BE THERE? DID WE REACH OUT AND TRY TO GET ANY VOLUNTEERS TO BE ELVES OR ANYTHING? NO. YOU JUST ASK SANTA THAT WE NEED SOMEBODY WITH SANTA TO KIND OF HAND OUT BOOKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S, DO WE NEED A VOLUNTEER FOR THAT OR IS THAT WELL, IT'S SANTA. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR TONIGHT IS WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE OF THIS BOARD AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING? BECAUSE WE CAN KIND OF ASSIGN THOSE ROLES. I'LL BE THERE. I'LL BE THERE. WE ARE ACTUALLY PART OF THE PARADE, SO UNTIL WE GET DONE WITH THE PARADE, I WE WON'T BE ABLE TO COME PARADE. RIGHT. PARADE'S LIKE FOUR TO FOUR IS WHEN IT STARTS. FIVE PROBABLY. YEAH. I WILL DEFINITELY BE THERE. I'LL DO SET UP AND THEN I CAN, I CAN HELP SANTA. YEAH. AND THEN I'M NOT GONNA DRESS UP LIKE LORI, AMANDA DOAN COMING AFTER THE PARADE. LIKE AS SOON AS WE CAN GET OUTTA THERE, YOU'LL YEAH. OTHER THAN I CAN DO COOKIES AND STUFF. I MEAN YOU GOTTA, I WONDER IF THE GIRL SCOUTS WOULD HELP WITH COOKIES AND HOT CHOCOLATE OR DO WE HAVE ANYTHING SET UP FOR THAT? I THINK PARKS AND REC IS DOING HOT CHOCOLATE. YEP. WE'LL DO HOT CHOCOLATE AND THEN OH, OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE FOOD TRUCK. OH, OKAY. OKAY. IF IT'S COLD, I'M GONNA NEED A HEATED SOUP. . YEAH. ONE MORE THAN LIKELY TO BE THERE. TO BE ABLE TO SO WILL BE COMING. HERE WE GO. YEAH. UM, I WOULD BE, UH, AN ELK FOR SANTA TO HELP. OH GREAT. I'LL FILL IN WHEREVER BECAUSE THAT'LL BE THERE THE WHOLE TIME. AND IF THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO GET SOME EL COSTUMING THAT STAYS WITH THE COMMISSION, WE CAN DO THAT TOO. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ELF NEST IN YOUR WARDROBE. OH, SHE HAS GOT EL I HAVE A COSTUME CLOSET THAT, THAT LOVE SHANNON OUTFIT GOT. GOT IT. SO SHANNON WILL BE AN ELF AND WILL HELP SANTA. THANK YOU. AND THEN CHERYL, YOU ALSO WANT TO DO KIND OF THAT ROLE. I WILL FILL IN WHEREVER WE NEED ME. HOW ABOUT YOU DO THAT TOO? I'M GOOD. YOU'RE VERY CHEERFUL. YOU'RE A GOOD GREETER. . AND THEN GREG, YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THE TENT AND HOT COCO. AND, AND IF THE GIRL SCOUTS WANT TO HAVE A TENT, WE'LL ACCOMMODATE THEM IN WHATEVER WAY HOSPITAL. DO THEY USUALLY DO SOME GIVEAWAYS OR DO THEY JUST, I THINK THEY'VE DONE LIKE A CRAFT IN THE PAST OR THEY'VE DONE THE CANDY. CAN GLOW HUG. ARE THEY USUALLY A BASE PAINTER? DON'T WE USUALLY HAVE A BASE PAINTER? WE'VE NOT HAD THAT AFTER FOURTH. BEFORE AT THE 4TH OF JULY. YEAH. BUT NOT AT, AT THE TREE PARTY DOES. THAT'S ALWAYS LIKE A BIG HEAD. YEAH, THAT WAS, IF IT'S REALLY COLD THOUGH, YEAH, IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO DO. IT'S HARD ON, YOU'RE RIGHT. THE PAINTER'S FINGERS. SO YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY, SO THERE'S NOTHING TO YEAH. OKAY. IT WAS, IT'S REALLY COLD THAT THEY DIDN'T, DOES ANYBODY WANNA SIT IN THEIR PIECE? YEAH, SURE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. UM, SO THE NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE RECAP. OKAY. SO I, UM, PRINTED OUT THE RESULTS HERE AND I JUST WANTED TO, UM, TAKE A MINUTE TO GO THROUGH THEM SO THAT YOU ALL COULD, UM, SEE THE RESPONSES, HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DIGEST 'EM AND IF IT SPARKED ANY SORT OF CONVERSATION. [00:35:01] UM, SO THE FIRST PAGE, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FROM THREE, SIX YEARS, BUT KIND OF SPLIT. UM, LOTS OF WORDS ABOUT SERVING IN COMMUNITY, COMING TO MIND ON WHAT YOU LOVE ABOUT THE BOARD. IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THREE OUT OF THE FIVE PRESENT THAT DAY, WE'RE INTERESTED IN GIVING, YOU KNOW, FOUR PLUS HOURS A MONTH TO THE BOARD. OUR SKILLS AND PASSIONS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY INTERESTING IS THAT YOU, UM, ALL INDICATED LIKE HELPING AND SERVICE AND COMMUNITY. UM, SO I REALLY THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS GREAT. AND I THINK THAT IT SHOWS IN THIS GROUP THAT COMES EVERY MONTH AND PERSONALLY WHAT YOU ENJOY WORKING ON THE MOST. I THINK THIS IS MAYBE WHERE A LITTLE BIT OF EVALUATION COMES IN, UM, IN THAT BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS ARE, ARE KIND OF LOW DOWN THERE ON WHAT PEOPLE ENJOY WORKING ON THE MOST, BUT THEY PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST ROOM FOR, YOU KNOW, GROWTH. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YEAR A NUMBER OF IDEAS AND MM-HMM. . AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO JUST ISN'T INTERESTED BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED, BUT THEY THINK THEY COULD BECOME INTERESTED. THAT'S SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS NOTEWORTHY. LOTS OF GREAT WORDS THAT YOU MIGHT THINK OF FOR A VISION STATEMENT. COMMUNITY KIND OF BEING THE NUMBER ONE REPEATED WORD ON THIS FIRST TIME THAT WE ASKED WHAT THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES WERE. UM, THEIR RESPONSE WAS PLANNING PROGRAMS, THEN BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS. RIGHT. SO SECOND WE'RE SAYING BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS, BUT IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LEAST INTERESTED IN PERSONALLY DOING. INVOLVED IN , UM, PROMOTION OF FINE ART AND CULTURE, CONDUCTING BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS, ADVISING PERSONNEL, UM, IN THE CITY. AND THEN SIX WAS SOMETHING ELSE. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS ANY RESPONSES TO THAT, BUT IF SO AND CAN CHIME IN. JUST PLEASE JUST INTERRUPT ME AS I'M LOOKING DOWN. THAT'S OKAY. UM, THE CHALLENGES I THOUGHT ALL RANG TRUE THAT EVERYONE AGREEING BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, SCHEDULING CONFLICTS, THE LI BOARD LIMITS ON NUMBERS. UM, LIKE THAT MAYBE IF THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE, THERE'D BE MORE PEOPLE WILLING TO DO THINGS, IS HOW I INTERPRETED THAT OPINIONS. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY LIABILITY, INSURANCE, MONEY, WHETHER ALL THOSE TERRIBLE THINGS WE CAN'T CONTROL TOO MUCH. SO THE MONEY QUESTION I THOUGHT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ASK, UM, ABOUT WHAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SPEND PER ATTENDEE. AND I THINK THAT THAT JUST KIND OF HELPS SHOW WITH YOUR BUDGET DOLLARS WHERE YOU EXPECT THAT SPREAD TO BE. UM, SO IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. THERE'S A COUPLE OF, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE WAVE OF RESPONSES IN THE LIGHT COLORS AS FAR AS HOW PROGRAMS ARE PERFORMING. UM, DOING WELL IN MOVIES IN THE PARKS. WE THINK IN THE ART SHOWS, MAYBE A LITTLE UNDERPERFORMING THINKING. S SPANGLED HEIGHTS IS GOING TOWARD THE, UM, BLOWING IT OUTTA THE WATER. THE TREE LIGHTING IS BLOWING IT OUT OF THE WATER. AND THEN, UM, BEAUTIFICATION BOARDS TRENDING A LITTLE HIGHER THAN CLOSER TO KNOCKING IT OUTTA THE WATER STILL. VERY TRUE. ANY COMMENTS? WE DID JUST TALK ABOUT THE ART SHOW. UM, HOW WELL DO THE BOARD'S ACTIVITIES PROVIDE FOR YOUTH AND FAMILY? WE'RE THINKING PRETTY WELL. ADULTS A LITTLE CLOSER TO MIDDLE OF THE ROAD OR YOUNG ADULTS. A LITTLE CLOSER TO MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. ADULTS A LITTLE BETTER THOUGH. SENIORS PRETTY MUCH STRAIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. ADVANCING ART IN THE COMMUNITY PRETTY MUCH RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. AND MAKING THE COMMUNITY A MORE BEAUTIFUL PLACE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. UM, SHOULD THIS PROGRAM REMAIN THE SAME? WE'RE PRETTY IN THE MIDDLE ABOUT MOVIES IN THE PARK. THE ART SHOW STAR SPAND HEIGHTS IS TRENDING TOWARD REMAINING THE SAME TREE LIGHTING DEFINITELY IN THAT REMAINING THE SAME AREA AND BEAUTIFICATION WHERE IT'S TRENDING TOWARD REMAINING THE SAME. UM, IT DOES LOOK LIKE A COUPLE PEOPLE HAD AT LEAST PUT CLOSER TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE IN MOVIES IN THE PARK AND THE ART SHOW. THAT WOULD BE ME FOR THE MOVIES IN THE PARK. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I WOULD LOVE TO, I MEAN, IF IT, I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THEM TO SOMETHING ELSE. NOT SO MUCH MOVIES IN [00:40:01] THE PARK, BUT LET'S FOCUS MORE ON ART AND, YOU KNOW, NEED ART SHOWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF MOVIES IN THE PARK. THAT WOULD JUST BE JUST PUTTING ON A MOVIE AND, AND LETTING EVERYBODY COME SIT AND WATCH. RIGHT. I MEAN MAYBE ONE MOVIE, BUT, UM, MORE INVOLVEMENT MORE. I MEAN, IF WE CAN TAKE AND DO ONE MOVIE A MONTH AND THEN TAKE THOSE FOUR WEEKS AND MAYBE PUT IT INTO LIKE AN ART, ART IN THE PARK. TAKE THAT ENERGY AND PUT IT IN ART IN THE PARK. UM, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD LAND. YOU ALMOST HAVE CHANGE THAT ENGAGEMENT I THINK THOUGH. WELL, YEAH. I'M, I'M JUST SAYING WE SPEND SOME FRIDAY NIGHTS AT THE MOVIE INSTEAD OF SPENDING THAT AT JUST ADDING MORE TIME TO OUR SCHEDULE OF JUST EVENTS WE TAKE, INSTEAD OF DOING ALL THE MOVIE NIGHTS FOR SUMMER, WE TAKE AWAY THREE OR FOUR AND THEN DO A ART IN THE PARK. KIND OF PUT IT DOWN. YEAH. NOT REALLY MAKING 'EM FRIDAY NIGHTS, BUT MAYBE DO A LEGO BUILDING WHEN INSTEAD OF HAVING IT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AT A MILLION TIMES. JUST TAKING THAT ENERGY INSTEAD OF PICKING MOVIES AND GOING TO MOVIE NIGHT AND HAVING PEOPLE THERE TO MAKING IT SOMETHING BIGGER AND MORE ART. UM, IF ON THE TOPIC OF MOVIE NIGHTS, LOOKING AT THE MONEY, IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE KIND OF THOUGHT WE'D BE SPENDING LIKE 10 BUCKS OR SO PER PERSON. THAT'S WHERE THE AVERAGE CAME OUT. UM, WE SPEND A THOUSAND DOLLARS OR MORE DEPENDING ON THE MOVIE AND DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE SCREEN, EVERY MOVIE NIGHT, THE FIRST MOVIE WE CLOUD PARK SCREENS WERE MORE EXPENSIVE. AND THE FIRST MOVIE WE HAD 30 PEOPLE. THE MOVIE, THE JULY MOVIE HAD MORE PEOPLE, UH, AUGUST AT THE ROWS. MORE PEOPLE. SEPTEMBER MORE PEOPLE, OCTOBER MORE PEOPLE. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY HEAT AS A FACTOR. THERE'S, IS CLOUD OR BERGER PERFORMING BETTER? YOU KNOW, THERE'S THOSE TRENDS TO ANALYZE. THERE'S THE TIME STARTING MAYBE AT ALMOST 10 O'CLOCK, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AT CLOUD. UM, IS THAT GONNA GET THAT MANY CHILDREN OUT? UM, AND ONLY, YOU KNOW, ONLY THE ONES WITH MORE THAN A HUNDRED PEOPLE. WERE WE REALLY ONLY SPENDING $10 A PERSON? OBJECTION. UM, I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SCREEN, BUT I MEAN I I I KNEW THAT AT ONE POINT, BUT KIND OF JUST PUT THAT TO THE BACK OF MY MIND. BUT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THE CITY BUYING A SCREEN TO HAVE. WE CAN BUY A SCREEN. NO, THAT'S POSSIBLE. PERHAPS A BLOW UP SCREEN, BUT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE HUNG. WELL BLOW UP SCREENS EVEN YOU COULD BUY A BLOW UP SCREEN FOR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR TWO TIMES THE RENTAL. OKAY. UM, IT'S JUST HAVING SOMEBODY, RIGHT. THEN YOU'VE GOT STAFF AND YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR MOVIE LICENSE. IF WE HAD A SCREEN, YOU COULD ALSO BOUNCE IT AROUND TO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND TRY AND DO LIKE BLOCK PARTIES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. OH, BUT ALSO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE NIGHTS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I CAN REMEMBER IN YEARS PAST HAVING OTHER EVENTS KIND OF INTERSPERSED AND ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT I ATTENDED, WHICH I, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN KIND OF, IT WAS PRICEY PER PERSON. 'CAUSE WE ALL HAD TO PAY WHOEVER PARTICIPATED HAD TO PAY. BUT THE, UH, WHERE WE PAINTED DID AN ACTUAL CANDY DIRECTED BY A PROFESSIONAL MM-HMM. , WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE WINE AND PAINT. YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT MORE ECONOMICALLY. THERE'S A NUMBER OF BARS AND RESTAURANTS ALREADY THAT DO THAT, BUT WE DID IT IN A PARK. RIGHT. AND PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED TO BRING THEIR COOLERS AND PEOPLE DID BRING BEER AND STUFF. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT, BECAUSE I DON'T, I WANT, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE EVENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE EXPENSIVE TO THE PUBLIC. BUT THAT WAS A FUN THING BECAUSE IT WAS AMAZING TO ME HOW MANY DIFFERENT PICTURES WE ENDED UP WITH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SAME PICTURE. BUT YOU KINDA HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO DIRECT THAT. BUT IF WE'RE PAYING A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A SCREEN, I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU CAN TAKE THAT MONEY AND BUDGET IT FOR YEAH. PAINT NIGHT AT THE PARK. RIGHT. SO YEAH. SOME OTHER IDEAS INSTEAD OF JUST DOING A MOVIE NIGHT. ALTHOUGH I DO THINK PEOPLE ENJOY THE MOVIE NIGHT, LIKE YOU SAID, IF IT'S TOO HOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME OUT. IF IT'S TOO LATE, THEN IT GONNA COME OUT. [00:45:01] THE THING IS, IS YOU CAN'T HAVE A MOVIE THAT FOR A YOUNG AUDIENCE THAT'S TYPICALLY ALREADY IN BED AT 10 O'CLOCK MM-HMM. AND STARTING AT 10 O'CLOCK, WE'RE GONNA DO A MOVIE AT 10 O'CLOCK. IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE MORE ADULT ORIENTED. WELL, I HATE TO TERM ADULT ORIENTED, BUT YEAH, I AGREE. YEAH. NOT ADULT ORIENTED, NOT YEAH. I SOMETHING TO MIND THAT. BUT YEAH. WHOLE AN OVER AUDIENCE ORIENTED. MM-HMM. . YEAH. AND WE CAN JUST TAKE THAT AND THINK ABOUT IT. I MEAN THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION. OKAY. FOR WE CAN MU OVER THAT. SORRY, SARAH DIDN'T INTERRUPT. NO, NO. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED. SHE WANTS TO KNOW. YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT WHY THEY MIGHT HAVE MARKED THE ART SHOW SHOULD END OR SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE? IF YOU EVEN REMEMBER WE YEAH, IT WAS, I SAID THAT I'D LIKE TO IT WAS YOU AGAIN. YEAH. I JUST WANT SEE MORE OF IT. OKAY. MAYBE A TWO DAY EVENT HAVING, UM, VENDORS BE ABLE TO SELL. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS JUST THINKING. IS THAT LIKE KEEPING THE FEBRUARY DATE AND AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR IS THAT THINKING EVEN BIGGER OF LIKE, LET'S GO OUT TO A PARK AND DO IT OUTSIDE AND DO A ART SHOW THAT'S, IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF ALL OF IT. LIKE, CAN WE ADD MORE, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY KIND OF THE, THE ENTERTAINMENT PART THAT WE DO THE MOVIE NIGHTS AND THEN MAKING MORE ART, BRINGING MORE BEAUTY, MORE OF THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION AWARD. UM, MAKING THAT A BIGGER THING. THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF KIND OF THE THINGS I VOTED ON THAT I DON'T THINK THERE ARE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE IN OUR PRIORITY. WHERE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING ON MONEY. YES. ENERGY AND TIME. MM-HMM. . THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, ARE THERE ART GROUPS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SHOULD BE CONNECTING WITH? UH, WE HAVE THE SCHOOLS, GARDENING NON-PROFIT GROUPS AND THEN HUMAN HEIGHTS PERFORMING ARTS GROUP OR SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE DAYTON ACADEMY OF DANCE AND HUBER HEIGHTS COMMON, UM, COMPLIMENTS. WE RECEIVE . SOMEBODY DID PUT THIS AS LIKE COMPLAINT , SO I'LL READ THAT ONE LATER. BUT PEOPLE, UM, LOVE WHAT WE DO. THEY LOVE IT. WHAT'S GREAT, THEY SEEM TO ENJOY THE FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE FESTIVAL. THEY OFTEN EXPRESS OF THEIR GRATITUDE TO THE CITY FOR SUPPLYING RESOURCES TO A AND B. UM, OKAY. AND THEN WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT THE ART SHOWS? SO HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE BEING MORE INVOLVED IN IT FROM THE SCHOOLS. LETTING ARTISTS SELL, ALLOWING ARTISTS TO SELL MORE PARKING, MORE VENDORS, MAKING IT MORE THAN ONE DAY MORE SCHEDULED ACTIVITIES. AND IF YOU DO THIS ART SHOW IN FEBRUARY, I DON'T THINK IT PRECLUDES YOU FROM ALSO DOING AN OUTDOOR ART SHOW. OUTDOOR LATER IN THE YEAR. OH, LATER. YEAH, I AGREE. TABLECLOTH AREN'T VERY EXPENSIVE EITHER. MORE THAN YOU'D THINK, BUT NOT THAT WAY. IDEAS ABOUT STAR SPANGLED HEIGHTS MORE BANDS AND BROAD. OH, IS THAT MORE BANDS FOR THE RIDES OR MORE BANDS LIKE MUSICIANS AND RIDES? DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER MUSICIANS AND RIDES OR BANDS FOR THE RIDES? I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK IT'S BANDS FOR THE RIDES. NO. OH, MUSIC. MUSIC. MORE MUSIC. UM, IT NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED TO A MULTI-DAY EVENT. IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED TO THE FIRST SATURDAY IN JULY. SO IT'S ALWAYS CLOSEST TO INDEPENDENCE DAY. MORE VENDORS, MORE RIDES, MORE PARKING. PARKING'S A HARD ONE, BUT, UM, MORE THAN ONE DAY, MORE SCHEDULED EVENTS. LOOK INTO DIFFERENT FIREWORK COMPANIES. WE HAD PROBLEM THE LAST MULTIPLE YEARS WITH THE FIREWORKS MISSING OR HITTING AND THE CITY PAYS A LOT OF MONEY FOR THAT. AND I KNOW SOME OF IT'S BEEN RAY, BUT I AGREE. OH, UM, AND I, I DON'T HAVE THE DIAGNOSIS TOO, THE PROBLEM, BUT I AGREE THAT THE FIREWORKS NEEDS SOME HELP. YEAH. I KNOW THERE'S A CONTRACT SIGNED, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS OR I WASN'T PART OF THOSE DETAILS. I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE TOO IN WHO YOU BUY THE FIREWORKS FROM AND WHO FIRES THEM. AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH, WHERE THE ISSUE LIES. SO, BECAUSE THEY USED TO GO UP FIRE FROM WHERE WE SIT, WE USED TO BE ABLE TO SEE 'EM VERY, VERY GOOD. BUT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE DOWN, THEY'RE FIRING TOO LOW, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T USED TO GET A GREAT VIEW. NOW WE DON'T SEE, SOME OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE WEATHER. IIII THINK IT COULD DEFINITELY BE BETTER. ESPECIALLY THE CITY DOESN'T GO CHEAP ON THAT, THAT EVENT. YOU [00:50:01] KNOW, THEY RIGHT. THEY WANT IT TO BE NICE AND RIGHT. YEAH. POSSIBLY ADD RIGHTS FOR TEENS AND ADULTS. MORE GANGS CHARGED FOR THE RIDES. YEAH. THE THINK ABOUT THAT. TO BRING IN MORE RIGHTS THEN IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A THREE DAY EVENT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THESE CARNIVAL PEOPLE IN FOR ONE DAY. I WENT THROUGH THIS, I ALWAYS A VOLUNTEER ON A COMMISSION WHEN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WAS GONNA TRY TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. WELL, AND WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS IT HAS TO BE, WE HAVE TO LET GO OF IT. IF WE WERE A THREE DAY EVENT RIGHT. WE, OUR VACATION IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO RUN THREE DAY EVENT. YEAH. WE'D HAVE TO PARTNER WITH ANOTHER. WE'D HAVE TO TURN IT OVER TO A, A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY AND LET THEM RUN. WELL, EVERYTHING. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT. YEAH, THEY WOULDN'T RUN IT PER SE. THEY'D JUST SUPPLY THE YEAH. BUT MOST OF THEM, THEY WANT CONTROL OVER ALL THE FOOD VENDING. THEY WANT CONTROL OVER THE COST OF RIDES, THE PRICE OF GAINS. WELL, IF YOU'RE BRINGING THOSE PEOPLE IN MAY, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT, THEY WANT THE INCOME COMING TO THE COMPANY. I THINK IT'S JUST WHATEVER, WHAT EVENT OR WHAT COMPANY PICK. UM, AND IF, I MEAN AS A FAR, AS FAR AS NOW WE PICK THE COMPANY, WE CAN MAKE THE TERMS RIGHT. SO RIGHT. AND THAT, BUT THE, BUT WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RIS WILSON. AND YOU KNOW, THE BIG BRIDES THAT I THINK GREG IS TALKING ABOUT, GREG IS TALKING ABOUT OUR FESTIVAL THAT WE HAD WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS A CHILD. THAT'S JUST HIRING SOMEONE. YOU CAN HIRE A CARNIVAL COMPANY TO DO A CARNIVAL FOR THREE DAYS WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE YOUR WHOLE FESTIVAL BE THREE DAYS. YEAH, I SEE. OR YOU CAN HAVE THE FESTIVAL BE THREE DAYS, BUT THE VENDORS AND THE, OR TWO DAYS, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN DO IT. YEAH. IIII DON'T KNOW, WOULD THIS COMMUNITY SUPPORT A THREE DAY EVENT? I KNOW AT LEAST TWO DAYS I THINK WOULD BE. IT USED TO, I MEAN, WELL WHEN I SAY THREE DAY EVENT, TYPICALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY FRIDAY TO MAKE THAT UP. SO IT'S BASICALLY FRIDAY EVENING ABOUT 5 30, 6 O'CLOCK AFTER PEOPLE WENT HOME FROM WORK TO ABOUT 10, 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. WELL, WHEN THE CHAMBER CAME IN AND, AND WANTED TO START IT UP AGAIN, LIKE IT USED TO BE, THAT WAS RIGHT BEFORE COVID OF COURSE AND GOT SHUT DOWN. BUT THEY WERE GOING, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD EVERYTHING SUPPOSEDLY LINED UP, BUT THEY HAVE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE CHAMBER HAS EXPRESSED NO INTEREST IN DOING SO. IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT PERSONNEL CHANGE THE CHAMBER TOO. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE IS, WHAT TYPE OF WORK DO YOU LIKE TO DO FOR THE COMMISSION? ONE PERSON LIKES TO PLAN MORE OR OTHERS LIKE TO BE FACE TO FACE AND BEING OUT THERE TALKING TO PEOPLE. EXCUSE. OH, HERE. FINE. UM, WHAT ADVANTAGES DO THE PROGRAMS HAVE OVER OTHERS? UM, OPENING IT UP TO MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS. THEIR FUND, WE OFFER FREE FAMILY EVENTS. OUR PROGRAMS ARE FREE. EVENTS ARE OFFERED WITHOUT ADMISSION AND THEY'RE GEARED TO THE COMMUNITY. SO A LOT OF LIKE FREE, NOT WANTING TO CHARGE ADMISSIONS. UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT MAKES YOU GO TO AN EXTERNAL EVENT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE CARE ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT, FOOD OPTIONS, HISTORICAL EVENTS, CAR SHOWS, THE COST, FUN, DIFFERENT FESTIVALS, MEETING PEOPLE AND WHAT SPECIFICALLY THEY'RE OFFERING, I GUESS, UM, WHAT AREA OF TOWN COULD USE BEAUTIFICATION? THE SOUTH COMMUNITY PARK, CITY CENTER, IU BRAND PARKS, CROWD BUSINESSES, SOME OF THE BUSINESS AREAS, A CITY PLAZA AT CITY HALL, OLDER SHOPPING CENTERS. AND THOSE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS AND THERE'S PROBABLY ANY MORE COMMON COMPLAINTS. UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS ANSWERED IN THE COMPLIMENTS SECTION, UM, WAS BASICALLY THAT THEY CONFLICT WITH OTHER THINGS GOING ON, WHICH IS ALSO, I'M HERE AGAIN. UM, AND PEOPLE HAVEN'T RECEIVED NEGATIVE COMMENTS, WHICH IS GREAT. AND THEN THE FESTIVALS AREN'T MULTI-DAY. THERE'S TOO MANY EVENTS NORTH OF THE FREEWAY AND NOT AT OR AT CLOUD PARK AND NOTHING HELD IN THE CITY CENTER. UM, I AM ALSO, ANOTHER THING I'M WORKING ON THAT I HOPE TO HAVE SHARED WITH YOU ALL IS JUST A LIST OF ALL THE FESTIVALS AND LIKE, FESTIVAL LIKE EVENTS IN THE GREATER AREA. UM, BECAUSE YOU WILL FIND THAT IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A DATE WHERE WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH SOMETHING. RIGHT. SO INSTEAD IT'LL BE NICE TO HAVE THAT ALL IN THE SPREADSHEET WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE COMPETING WITH AND JUST HOW FAR AWAY IT IS. AND IT'S NOT THE SAME THEME. THAT'S [00:55:01] GOOD. UM, SO HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE THAT FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING. AND MY, MY ARGUMENT WITH THE COMPETING EVENTS HAS ALWAYS BEEN JUST LIKE AT THE MAYOR FESTIVAL, WE WERE ALWAYS COMPETING AGAINST SOMETHING. AND THAT WAS THE BIGGEST, I THINK COUNCIL COMPLAINT AND EVERYTHING. BUT WITH THE VENUE THAT WE, WHERE WE HAVE IT, I MEAN, WE'RE HAVING IT AT, AT IBERG, WE FILL THOSE PARKING LOTS, RIGHT? SO IF WE, IF WE FIND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT COMPETING AND WE DRAG IN MORE PEOPLE, WHERE ARE WE GONNA GO? YOU KNOW? I MEAN IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE HAVE TO GO TO CLOUD. YOU HAVE TO GO TO CLOUD. YEAH. AND SO DO WE, ARE WE THAT FOCUSED ON MAKING IT A BIGGER EVENT? DO WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I COME FROM IS THAT YEAH, I KNOW NOBODY LIKES TO HAVE A CONFLICT WITH SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL'S COMPLAINT WAS, HEY, WE WANNA ATTEND YOUR MARIBEL FESTIVAL, BUT THERE'S THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO TOO. I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING ABLE TO PLEASE EVERYBODY IS THE PROBLEM. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'M REALLY TORN ON THAT. I THINK SOMETIMES WE, WE TRY NOT TO COMPETE WITH ANYBODY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO OUR MARIBEL FESTIVAL BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE BY. THEY GOT THEIR KIDS, THEY CAN COME OUT FOR A FEW HOURS AND GO HOME. IT'S NOT A WHOLE DAY THERE. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S, UM, TELLING YOUR STORY TOO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY YOU WANNA MAKE GOALS FOR EVERY PROGRAM. LOOK, IF SOMEBODY SAYS YOU DIDN'T HAVE 10,000 PEOPLE TODAY, YOU GO, WELL THAT'S FINE. 'CAUSE OUR GOAL IS 1500 AND YOU KNOW, WE MET THAT OR BLEW OUT THE WATER. UM, THAT'S WHAT WE LEFT. YEAH. BECAUSE NOT EVERY PROGRAM'S GONNA BE BUILT FOR 10,000 PEOPLE. OKAY. AND THE LESS, THE LESS WE DO, UM, WITH LITTLE THINGS AND WE MAYBE PLAN FOR LIKE IF WE PUT ALL OUR ENERGY IN A THREE DAY EVENT FOR THE 4TH OF JULY INSTEAD OF DOING A FALL FESTIVAL TOO. BUT WE JUST MAKE THAT 4TH OF JULY THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO. LIKE WE TAKE THAT ENERGY AND MONEY AND WE PUT THEM THERE, PUT IT TOWARDS THERE. OKAY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY TOO. MM-HMM. , UM, MONTHS FOR VACATION. THIS WAS GOOD. THERE WASN'T A LOT OF OVERLAP. I WAS HOPING YOU WEREN'T HONESTLY THE SAME MONTH AND THEN THAT BE THE MONTH YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING NEW. UM, SO THAT'S GOOD. WE'LL KEEP THOSE IN MIND, BUT GOOD THAT THERE'S NOT A TON OF OVERLAP BOARDS PRIORITY. SO THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED AND THEY DID SHIFT A LITTLE BIT. SO NOW FIRST IS THE PROMOTION OF FINDING CULTURAL ART. SECOND IS PLANNING PROGRAMS AND EVENT THIRD IS CONDUCTING BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS, FOURTH COMMUNICATION AWARDS, FIFTH ADVISING CITY PERSONNEL. AND SIXTH SOMETHING ELSE. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY DID ANSWER INTO SOMETHING ELSE. MAY REMEMBER THAT HAD SOMETHING IN MIND. I DON'T THINK I EVER USED SOMETHING ELSE. OKAY. WHAT OTHER PRIORITIES EXIST THAT AREN'T LISTED IN THE PREVIOUS QUESTION? UM, JUST THE ONLY ONE LISTED WAS WE NEED MORE ORGANIZED ACTIVITY FOR CHILDREN OF ALL AGES. I THINK, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SEE A MARKET DIFFERENCE IN THE RECREATION OFFERINGS COMING OUTTA THE PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT IN THE COMING YEARS TOO. SO DON'T WE FEEL LIKE THAT IS ALL ON YOU, UM, AS THIS BOARD? OKAY. I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK ON IT IN THE PAST AND THE COMMUNITY'S VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. UM, BUT IF YOU WANT TO SHIFT IN ANY SORT OF WAY LIKE SHANNON MIGHT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTING IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT MANNERS OR ANOTHER IDEA THAT HASN'T BEEN STATED YET, THERE WILL BE MORE CHILDREN'S PROGRAM COME INTO YOUR TOWN SOON. UM, AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SPENDING MORE TIME ON BOARD INITIATIVES, DO YOU THINK ABOUT ENHANCING WHAT'S ALREADY OFFERED OR CREATING NEW OFFERINGS? AND IT LOOKS LIKE MOST PEOPLE SAID BOTH. ONE PERSON SAID ENHANCING CURRENT OFFERINGS. THAT'S PROBABLY ME. . WELL I THINK REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION CAME OUT THAT, AND I HOPE YOU'LL KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND. UM, AND CERTAINLY PERSPECTIVES CAN ALWAYS CHANGE AND SHIFT AND, UM, THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FROM THE VERY CANDID CONVERSATION. SOMETIMES IT'S HARD WHEN YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THINGS TO, TO THINK ANYTHING, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE CANDID FEEDBACK ON STARTS TO GO HIKES AND STUFF IS VERY HELPFUL. OKAY. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE ACTIVITY? OKAY, ANY NEW BUSINESS, ANY ADDITIONAL [01:00:01] BUSINESS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES? YES. OKAY. HERE IS, UM, NO ONE THAT IS OPPOSED TO THE MINUTES. WILL ONE OPPOSED? THEN WE'LL APPROVE THE MINUTES. SIX TO ZERO. I'LL SIGN THE MINUTES AND, AND THEN UPCOMING MEETING NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 18TH. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. I DID ASK THIS OF THE PARKS BOARD TOO JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO LIKE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THEIR SPOUSES BEING INVITED TO WORK, HOLIDAY PARTIES AND EVERYTHING. IT'S PROBABLY UNLIKELY THAT ONE FALLS INTO MONDAY, BUT UM, IF THERE PARKS IS ON A THURSDAY, SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE LIKELY. BUT, UM, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR DECEMBER SO WE KNOW SOONER THAN LATER IF WE HAVE A FORUM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND IF THAT IS ALL, WE'LL CLOSE OUR MEETING AND IT'S 7 35. THANK YOU. SHARING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.