[00:00:03]
I[ AGENDA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road October 15, 2024 6:00 P.M. ]
SHALL CALL THE MEETING THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE RULE MR. CASSIDY? MR. JEFFRIES? HERE.
UH, THE OPENING COMMENT I HAVE THIS EVENING IS JUST LET IT BE KNOWN THAT ME AND MS. VARGO WILL FIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY UH, UH, REMARKS ON, ON THE DIOCESE? NEXT, ON THE AGENDA AS THE CITIZENS' COMMENTS, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY CITIZENS' COMMENTS NOT PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
WE'LL MOVE ON WITH SWEARING OF WITNESSES.
I ANNOUNCE ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
SO I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.
TO THE FOLLOWING OATH, DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD, PLEASE BE SEATED.
I'D ALSO ASK ANYONE COMING TO THE PODIUM TONIGHT TO SPEAK, TO GIVE THEIR NAME AND SIGN IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET.
PROVIDED, UH, WE HAVE NO, UH, PENDING BUSINESS.
OUR FIRST ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS REZONING.
THE APPLICANT, ADAM MILAN, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF REZONING, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL R FOUR A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT B ONE TO FACILITATE THE SALE OF EXISTING BUILDING FOR USE AS A MULTI-TENANT OFFICE SPACE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 65 0 2 OLD TROY PIKE, UH, RZ 24 21.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AARON SOUT, CITY, HUBER HEIGHTS.
UH, SO THIS IS AN, UH, APPLICATION FOR A REZONING OF 1.23 ACRES FROM R FOUR TO B ONE.
UH, STAFF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A LOT SPLIT BASED ON THE B ONE SETBACKS.
UH, THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS THE, THE BUILDING JUST NORTH OF THE KEY BANK, UH, SITE.
UH, THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO REUSE IT AS, UH, MULTI SUITES, UH, UH, SALONS.
SO BASICALLY MUL, UH, MULTIS SALON CHAIRS WITHIN, WITHIN THE BUILDING.
UM, THIS WAS THE LOT SPLIT THAT WAS APPROVED.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, THIS, UH, SITE PLAN, UH, DOES MEET THE B ONE, UH, SETBACKS AS FAR AS, UH, BUILDING SETBACK FROM THE, FROM OLD TROY PIKE, AS WELL AS SIDE, REAR, AND FRONT YARDS.
AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE B ONE STANDARDS, BEAUTY PARLORS ARE A PERMITTED USE.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE LOT MEETS ALL THE SETBACK AND YARD REQUIREMENTS.
THE APPLICANT, UH, OR SUBSEQUENT PURCHASER, WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS LANDSCAPING, PARKING, AND SCREENING WITHIN THE B ONE, UH, DISTRICT.
THOSE REQUIREMENTS WILL RE WILL BE REVIEWED AND ENFORCED THROUGH A ZONING PERMIT APPLICATION PROCESS.
UH, FIRE, UH, APPROVES THE REZONING AS SUBMITTED.
THE CITY ENGINEER HAD NO COMMENTS.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
UH, SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN TAKE, UH, FOLLOWING, UM, ACTIONS WITH A MOTION.
EITHER RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING APPLICATION WITH OR WITHOUT COMMISSIONS, RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE ZONING APPLICATION OR TABLE THE, UH, TABLE OF THE CASE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER, ADAM, IS HERE, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, UH, PURCHASER'S, UH, REPRESENTATIVE, UM, MELISSA.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. MARGOT, MS. THE, UH, THE LOT SPLIT, WILL, WILL THE CURRENT OWNER MAINTAINED ONE HALF OF IT, OR WILL THE PURCHASER HAVE BOTH LOTS? SO THE, UH, THE WHAT IS FOR SALE RIGHT NOW IS THE 1.2 ACRES THAT ARE ON, UH, OLD TROY PIKE.
ADAM IS THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER, WILL RETAIN THE REMAINING 19.7, GIVE OR TAKE ACRES, UH, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
MR. JEFFRIES, AND THIS IS PROBABLY MORE FOR THE NEXT STEP, BUT AS WE GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN LATER, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT CAN WE FIND ADDITIONAL PARKING OR RELOCATE THE DUMPSTER, ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, OR IS THAT STUFF WE SHOULD BRING UP TONIGHT? WELL, WHEN WE GET, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST ZONING TO STRAIGHT B ONE.
UM, WHEN WE GET TO THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN REVIEW, STAFF IS GONNA WEIGH IN ON THOSE ISSUES.
UH, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING, BUT YEAH, DUMPSTER, LOCATION, LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA, NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR.
[00:05:02]
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT PROBLEM? ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CASE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? ADAM, MAD ANDRO.
HOPEFULLY I'M NOT TEARING THAT NAME UP TOO MUCH.
UH, FOR APPROVAL OF REZONING PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 65 0 2 OLD TROY PIKE, CASE RZ 24 DASH 21, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED OCTOBER 10TH, 2024, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TOO.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION MOVED BY MR. JEFFRIES, SECOND.
UH, SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? SORRY, I THOUGHT CHERYL MADE THE MOTION.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, SO ONCE THE, UH, PROPERTY CLOSES, THE, UH, THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER CAN, UM, REACH OUT TO US AND WE WILL WALK THEM THROUGH THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT STEPS AS FAR AS, UH, SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND ZONING APPROVAL.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A MINOR CHANGE.
THE APPLICANT A PP ARCHITECTURE IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MINOR CHANGE TO CONSTRUCT A 2,381 SQUARE FOOT EDITION TO THE EXISTING FIRE STATION.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 74 35 OLD TROY PIKE, MC 24 24.
UH, SO AS YOU SAID, UH, THE APPLICANT DOES REQUEST, UH, APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A 2300 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FIRE STATION 23.
UH, THE SITE IS ZONED, UH, PLANNED PUBLIC AND PRIVATE GROUNDS.
UH, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED LARGELY, UH, PLANNED COMMERCIAL TO THE, TO THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTH, UH, AND THEN R FOUR ACROSS, UH, OLD TROY PIKE.
UH, SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, UM, UP IS WEST.
UH, YOU, YOU CAN SEE IN THE DARKER AREA THAT IS THE 2300 SQUARE FOOT, UM, ADDITION TO THE SOUTH.
REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE IN THE SITE PLAN BESIDES THE ADDITION IS THAT THE, UH, PARKING GETS RELOCATED TO THE LANDSCAPE BERM THAT, UH, CURRENTLY EXISTS.
UH, THIS IS ELEVATION LOOKING TO THE EAST OR THE EAST ELEVATION, SORRY, LOOKING WEST.
UM, THE, UH, THE ADDITION TO THE SOUTH, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE, UH, VIEW AS YOU TRAVEL NORTHBOUND ON OLD TROY PIKE.
UH, SO AS FAR AS THE CONFORMANCE WITH, UH, THE PLANNED PUBLIC AND PRIVATE GROUNDS REQUIREMENTS, UM, A FIRE STATION IS A PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USE.
UH, THE SITE PLAN MEETS ALL PARKING, BUILDING SETBACKS AND YARD REQUIREMENTS.
ALL UTILITIES ARE BELOW GROUND.
THE, UH, THE FACADE OR THE ADDITION OF THE FACADE ADDITION WILL BE BRICK TO MATCH.
UH, THE EXISTING BUILDING AS FAR AS PARKING AND LOADING.
THE, UH, EXPANSION WILL ACTUALLY RESULT IN, UH, ONE NET, UH, PARKING SPACE FOR A TOTAL OF 11, UH, PARKING SPACES.
SO, UH, FIRE APPROVED THE ADDITION AS SUBMITTED.
UH, CITY ENGINEER HAD NO COMMENTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. VARGO? IS THIS ADDITION ACTUALLY ATTACHED TO THE CURRENT BUILDING? IT IS.
AND WILL THERE BE ACCESS BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS OR DO YOU GO OUTSIDE ONE TO GET INSIDE THE OTHER? UH, THERE'LL BE ACCESS FROM IN THE INTERIOR.
UM, TIM, UM, FROM APP ARCHITECTURE IS HERE IF YOU WANT TO TALK, UH, ABOUT INTERIOR PROGRAMMING.
UM, BUT IT, IT IS AN EX IT'S AN EXIST, AN EXPANSION REALLY, OF THE INTERIOR SPACE.
SO IT'LL BE CONSIDERED ONE LARGE BUILDING? CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU MR. RELL.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? BRING IT ON JUST REAL QUICK, JUST SO I CAN ANSWER.
SO I'M TIM BEMAN, UH, WITH APP ARCHITECTURE, UH, PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE.
AND, UH, DO I NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE? DID YOU SIGN IN TO AARON? IS THERE A SIGN IN SHEET OUT THERE? YEAH, I'LL SIGN IN SO I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
[00:10:01]
QUESTION, WHAT THIS IS IS THAT, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO EXPAND THIS BUILDING AND, AND MAKE IT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.AND, AND WE TAKE, WE DO A LOT OF FIRE STATION FIRE EMS DESIGN AROUND THE STATE OF OHIO AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN THIS, UH, ADDITION.
AND YES, IT'S, IT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'RE TAKING THE DORM ROOMS, WHICH ARE CRAMPED AND VERY SMALL UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND WE'RE MOVING THEM DOWN TO THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S PRIMARILY THE ADDITION CONSISTS OF NEW DORM ROOMS, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE CREWS, AND THERE'LL BE RESTROOMS AND SHOWERS, UNISEX TOILET ROOMS, SHOWER ROOMS. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS MIXED GENDERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FIRE SERVICE THAT IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE PROMINENT, GETTING THOSE, UM, LIVING QUARTERS IN THE SLEEPING AREAS ON THE FIRST FLOOR SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWNSTAIRS TO GET TO THE APPARATUS WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SAFETY CONCERN THERE.
SO WE GET THEM DOWN ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S PROMPTING REALLY THE, THE ADDITION.
UH, THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING ON THE INTERIOR AS FAR AS, UH, DECONTAMINATION AND THINGS AS FAR AS KEEPING THE CONTAMINANTS IN THE APPARATUS BAY AND HOW THEY CLEAN THEIR GEAR.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING STATION AS WELL, UPGRADING THE KITCHEN, THEIR LIVING SPACES.
SO OVERALL IT'S GONNA BE A VERY NICE UPGRADE TO AGAIN, GIVE THIS BUILDING A NEW, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL LEASE ON LIFE FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS OR SO.
MS. FARGO, SO THIS WILL BE A SEPARATE FIRE STATION.
IT WILL NOT BE AN EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT ONE.
IT'S AN YES, IT'S AN, SO IT'S AN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING STATION.
SO WE'RE INCREASING THE FOOTPRINT, THE NUMBER OF, UM, FIRE, YOU KNOW, CREW MEMBERS ARE THE SAME, BUT WE'RE REALLY ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY TIGHT, VERY COMPACT STATION NOW.
AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO IMPROVE, UM, SOME OF THE OPERABILITY IN THAT, IN THE INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE DORM ROOMS. SO THEY HAVE SOME STUDY SPACE AND CURRENTLY IT'S A VERY SMALL LITTLE CUBBIES THAT THEY HAVE.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE FIRE STATION 23 OR, OR A DIFFERENT NUMBER? IT WILL, IT WILL BE THE SAME.
IT'S FIRE STATION 23, STAYING AS, AS STATION 23, BUT JUST, UM, JUST ADDRESSING SOME BIT SPACE.
JUST EXPANSION, JUST EXPANSION RATHER THAN AN ADDITION? CORRECT.
WELL, IT'S AN ADDITION THAT IT SERVES AS THE EXPANSION.
WE HAVE TO ADD SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE EXISTING BUILDING, BUT IT'S ALL ONE BUILDING.
AND, AND AS FAR AS THE PERSONNEL ARE CONCERNED, YEP.
UH, IT WILL BE TREATED AS ONE FIRE STATION? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, THANK YOU SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS, UH, ZONING CASE? OKAY, SHALL CLOSE THAT.
IS THERE A, A, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? A PP ARCHITECTURE FOR APPROVAL OF A MINOR CHANGE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 74 35 OLD TROY PIKE, UH, CASE MC 24 24 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED OCTOBER 11TH, 2024 IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED TO MOVED BY MR. JEFFRIES.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MS. VARGO? SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE RULE MS. THOMAS? YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. SORO? UM, THE APPLICANT CAN, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR, UH, BUILDING AND ZONING PERMIT PROCESS.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDAS, A MINOR CHANGE, THE APPLICANT AA THE APPLICANT TESLA IS
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 71 50 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD MC 24 0 8.
SO THE NEXT TWO CASES DEAL WITH EV CHARGING STATIONS.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS LOCATED IN THE, UH, REALLY AN UNUSED AREA OF THE MEYER, UM, SHOPPING OR THE MEYER GROCERY STORE OFF OF EXECUTIVE, UH, BOULEVARD.
SO THE APPLICANT IS, UH, SO I DO APOLOGIZE IN MY STAFF REPORT I SAID 10 EVS CHARGING STATIONS.
UH, IT'S ACTUALLY 12, UM, TWO WERE HIDDEN THAT I MISSED.
UM, SO THERE ARE 12, UH, EV CHARGING STATIONS.
SO THE SITE IS OWNED PLANNED EMPLOYMENT PARK.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE LOCATION IS GENERALLY THE UNUSED, UH, OVERFLOW AREA FOR, UH, FOR THE MEYER STORE.
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN.
UH, YOU HAVE THE, THE POWER BANK, UH, TO THE, TO THE LEFT.
SO YOU HAVE YOUR TRANSFORMER ON THE SOUTH AND THEN TESLA'S TESLA DO HICKEYS,
UH, AND THEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE ACTUAL CHARGING, UH, STATIONS, UH, ON THE, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT.
WE DID WORK WITH, UH, TESLA A LITTLE BIT TO, UH, INCREASE,
[00:15:01]
UH, SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING.SO THE, UH, THE POWER CENTER IS NOW, UM, SCREENED WITH, UH, A SOLID WALL AS WELL AS SOME PLANTING MATERIALS TO SOFTEN THAT AREA.
UH, DP AND L OR A ESI SHOULD SAY IS, UM, THEY, THEY GET GRUMPY WHEN WE PUT, UH, PLANTING MATERIALS AROUND THEIR TRANSFORMERS.
UH, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT NOW.
SO THEY, THEY DREW A HARD LINE ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THAT.
UH, SO THAT IS WHY IT REMAINS UNSCREENED.
UH, SO THIS IS REALLY KIND OF THE, THE, UM, GROUND LEVEL VIEW.
YOU'LL HAVE THE, THE POWER AREA TO THE, ON THE LEFT AS WELL AS THE, THE CHARGING, UH, STATIONS.
SO AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING, UH, DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, FILLING STATIONS, WHICH RIGHT NOW IN OUR ZONING CODE, THIS IS THE CLOSEST USE, UH, IS A PERMITTED UH, USE IN THE PEP DISTRICT.
THE SITE PLAN, UH, MEETS ALL PARKING, BUILDING AND YARD REQUIREMENTS.
REALLY, THERE AREN'T ANY, UM, ALL UTILITIES ARE BELOW GROUND.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT WILL BE, UH, PARTIALLY SCREENED BY AN OPAQUE FENCE AND THEN SOFTENED WITH, UH, SOME PLANTING MATERIAL.
UH, THE EXPANSION WILL RESULT IN THE NET LOSS OF NINE PARKING SPACES.
UM, BUT THERE ARE, UH, AMPLE PARKING, UH, FACILITIES, UH, SURROUNDING THE MEYER STORE.
SO, UH, STAFF IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT APPROVED IT AS SUBMITTED.
UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD WORKED WITH TESLA AND THE APPLICANT TO, UH, INCREASE THE SCREENING OF THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS, UH, AS WELL AS SOFTEN THAT FENCED IN AREA.
UM, SO STAFF REQUEST, UH, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE MINOR CHANGE APPLICATION DATED APRIL 8TH, AND TO FACILITATE THOSE 12 EV CHARGING STATIONS, UH, WE HAVE, UH, NO CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, UH, WITH THE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR.
MM-HMM,
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? OKAY.
SHALL I CLOSE IT TO THE O OR PUBLIC PORTION? UM, ONE MOMENT.
ISSU, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT, TESLA FOR APPROVAL OF A MINOR CHANGE.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 71 50 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD CASE MC 24 0 8, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2024 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TO I MAKE A MOTION.
WHO BY MS. THOMAS, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. JEFFRIES.
SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE RULE MS. VARGO? YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. SORE, UM, EXCUSE ME.
UH, WE WILL, UH, REACH OUT TO THEM AND, UM, UH, WORK THROUGH THE, THE ACTUAL ZONING PERMIT PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT, THE OSCAR W LOSS LOSS LARSON COMPANY IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MINOR CHANGE TO CONSTRUCT FIVE EV CHARGING STATIONS.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 75 50 OLD TROY PIKE, MC 24 DASH 19 MR. YES.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SHEETS, UH, SITE DOWN THE STREET FROM US.
UM, THERE ARE FIVE PROPOSED EV UH, CHARGING STATIONS IN THAT, UH, EAST PARKING AREA THAT WAS, IT'S EFFECTIVELY EMPLOYEE OR OVERFLOW PARKING.
IT WAS GONNA BE WHERE THE, UH, THE, UM, CAR WASH WAS GONNA BE.
UM, SO THE SITE IS ZONED PLANNED MIXED USE.
UH, THIS IS, UH, THE CURRENT DESIGN.
UH, SO THE FIVE OR SIX, UH, EXISTING PARKING SPACES WILL BE ENLARGED TO CREATE, UH, ESSENTIALLY 10 PARKING SPACE AREAS FOR FIVE CHARGERS.
THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS, UH, ARE SET BACK.
UM, BEHIND THIS, UH, WHAT WAS PROPOSED, UM, LANDSCAPING WISE WAS THIS, UH, LINE OF, UM, OF, OF PLANTING MATERIAL.
UM, WHAT'S THERE THOUGH AT THE MOMENT IS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, UH, LANDSCAPING.
UH, SO YOU'VE GOT, UH, SOME BEDS ON BOTH THE, UH,
[00:20:01]
EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THIS AREA THAT ARE FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL.UM, WE HAVE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO REVISE THEIR SITE PLAN TO INCORPORATE BETTER LANDSCAPING, UH, MATERIAL, UH, AND SOFTEN, SOFTEN THE LOOK OF, OF WHAT THE EV CHARGERS, UH, WILL BE.
UM, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED UPDATED SITE PLAN, UM, UPDATED LANDSCAPING PLANS, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
UH, SO WHAT WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO DO IS REALLY KIND OF RELOCATE THE TWO EXISTING TREES OR PLANT NEW TREES SOMEWHERE, UM, BY THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS, UH, TO, TO BREAK THAT UP, AS WELL AS MOVE THAT PLANTING MATERIAL AROUND THE TRANSFORMER AND ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS, UH, AS WELL AS FILL IN THE AREA.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT CONCRETE FILL IN THE AREA BETWEEN THE CHARGERS WITH PLANTING MATERIAL.
UM, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT CLOSE, BUT NOT CLOSE ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA TRAMPLE OVER IT WHILE THEY'RE, UH, UNHOOKING THE CHARGING, UH, UNIT EACH OF THESE CHARGERS IS, UH, MY HEIGHT.
SO THEY'RE NOT, UH, THEY'RE NOT INCONSEQUENTIAL.
SO WE WERE LOOKING TO HAVE THE, UM, UH, THAT THE LANDSCAPING MATERIAL SOFTEN THAT LOOK AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE PLANNED, UM, MIXED USE DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS.
AGAIN, FILLING STATIONS, UH, IS, UH, SPECIAL USE IN THE PM DISTRICT, BUT THOSE WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THE SHEETS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE SITE PLAN MEETS ALL OF THE PARKING, BUILDING SETBACK, AND YARD REQUIREMENTS.
ALL UTILITIES WILL BE BELOW GROUND.
UM, THOSE ELECTRIC COMPONENTS WILL BE PARTIALLY SCREENED BY AN OPAQUE FENCE.
UM, THIS EXPANSION WILL, WILL RESULT IN THE NET LOSS OF SIX SPACES, UM, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU CALCULATE IT.
SO IF, UH, THEY'RE NOT GOING, IT WILL BE SIGNED.
UM, EV PARKING ONLY, BUT I, WITH MY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY'RE NOT ACTIVELY ENFORCING THAT.
UM, BUT REGARDLESS, UH, SHEETS CURRENTLY HAS 51 PARKING SPACES AND BY CODE THEY ONLY NEED 28.
SO THERE IS AMPLE, UM, PARKING.
I, I RARELY SEE MORE THAN ONE OR TWO CARS AT THAT PARTICULAR, UM, LOCATION WHEN I GO BACK AND FORTH.
UH, FIRE APPROVED THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
PLANNING STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS INSTALLATION.
UM, HOWEVER, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S GONNA RESULT OR COULD RESULT IN LESS PLANTING MATERIAL THAN CURRENTLY EXISTS.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL IMPROVE THEIR LANDSCAPING PLANS.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT RELOCATE OR REPLACE THE TWO EXISTING PARKING LOT TREES THAT THE APPLICANT CREATE PLANNING BEDS BETWEEN AND BEHIND THE CHARGING STATIONS USING SIMILAR PLANNING MATERIAL AS CURRENTLY EXISTS.
UH, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD PROVIDE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING AROUND THE TRANSFORMER CLUSTER, NOT INCLUDING THOUGH THE ACCESS TO THE, UM, THAT TRANSFORMER AREA, THE, THE DOORS THAT A ES IS, UH, PARTICULAR ABOUT.
UH, AND THEN THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE, UH, REVISED LANDSCAPING PLANS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL PRIOR TO SEEKING ZONING APPROVAL.
SO WE WANT TO REVIEW AND APPROVE, UM, THE UPDATED LANDSCAPING PLAN PRIOR TO ZONING APPROVAL.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN TAKE THE, THE FOLLOWING ACTION.
YOU CAN APPROVE THE MINOR CHANGE WITH OR WITHOUT THOSE CONDITIONS, DENY THE MINOR CHANGE OR TABLE THIS APPLICATION.
ARE THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MS. FARGO? UM, AS I RECALL OR HELP ME REMEMBER, THIS WAS IN THE SHEET'S ORIGINAL PLANNED TO HAVE THESE CHARGING STATIONS.
SO WHAT THEY HAD TOLD US WAS THAT THEY WERE OPEN TO THE IDEA AND THAT IT WAS A, A FUTURE IN THEIR FUTURE PLANS, BUT THEY WEREN'T MOVING FORWARD WITH IT AT THE TIME.
THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL THAT BEING ON THERE DETAILED.
WHAT WHAT FIRST CAME IN WAS ACTUALLY ALL OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS, UH, ALIGNED ALONG TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, UH, AND WE ASKED THEM TO SET THEM BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUBSTANTIAL.
I MEAN, THEY'RE THIS TALL, UH, THEY'RE SUBSTANTIAL, UM, FIXTURES.
UM, SO THEY'VE MOVED THAT, THEY'VE GOT MORE ROOM TO WORK BACK THERE THAN THEY DID ALONG, UH, TAYLORSVILLE.
THEY WERE ALSO INTERESTED IN MAYBE PUTTING UP A CANOPY IN THE FUTURE.
MY DIRECTION TO THEM WAS IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, THOUGHTS ABOUT A CANOPY IN THE FUTURE, IT NEEDS TO BE OFF TAYLORSVILLE ROAD AND NOT, UH, NOT ALONG THAT.
SO, BUT THIS IS THE DETAIL THAT WE HAVE BEFORE.
THIS WOULD BE THE, THE DETAIL WITH THE LANDSCAPING PLAN UPDATED IN THE FUTURE.
UH, WAWA ALSO HAS, UM, THEY HAVE, UM, THEY HAVE CONDUIT FOR EV CHARGING STATIONS
[00:25:01]
AS WELL.THEY'RE NOT AT THE MO AT THE MOMENT.
THEY'RE NOT PLANNING TO PUT THEM IN, BUT THEY'RE ALL BUILDING THEM FOR THE FUTURE EV UM, FACILITIES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION.
IS THERE A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? THE OSCAR W LARSON COMPANY FOR APPROVAL OF A MINOR CHANGE.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 75 50 OLD TROY PIKE, CASE MC 24 DASH 19 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TOO.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, I WILL REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT TOMORROW TO DISCUSS THOSE NEXT STEPS.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS REZONING AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT, TG, T-J-L-C-E-S-L-E-L-L-C, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF REZONING OF 2.75 ACRES TO PLAN COMMERCIAL AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
APPROVAL OF 0.98 ACRES TO CONSTRUCT A DOMINO'S PIZZA PICKUP AND DELIVERY ONLY.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 82 20 AND 89.
I'M SORRY, 89 20 AND 89 60 OLD TROY PIKE, RZ, BDP 24 DASH 22, MR. LL OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, KIND OF A TWO PART CASE.
UH, ONE IS THE REZONING OF 2.75 ACRES, AS WELL AS THEN THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL FOR JUST UNDER AN ACRE.
SO THE TOTAL SITE I SAID, LIKE I SAID, IS, UH, TWO AND THREE QUARTER ACRES.
THERE ARE TWO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ON THE SITE, UH, ADJACENT LAND USE, UH, OR ZONING, UH, TO THE WEST IS I ONE, THE, THE TRIMBLE, UH, FACILITY NORTH IS PLANNED COMMERCIAL.
UH, AND THEN TO THE EAST, INTO THE SOUTH ARE, IS ZONED PLANNED RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT THAT FOUND THE SITE TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST.
SO THE APPLICANT IS, UH, SEEKING REZONING TO PLAN COMMERCIAL.
UH, AND THEN BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THEY WANT TO CONSTRUCT, AS YOU SAID, A DOMINO'S PIZZA, WHICH WOULD BE PICKUP, UH, AND DELIVERY ONLY.
THERE IS NO EDEN, UM, NO DINE-IN FACILITY WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UH, STRUCTURE.
SO THIS IS THE SITE THREE PARCELS COM, UH, TOTAL OF, UH, TWO AND THREE QUARTER ACRES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THIS A LITTLE BETTER, UH, OUTLINE.
SO THERE, UH, THE PART, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE CAR WASHES TO THE NORTH RESIDENTS TO THE, UH, SOUTH AND EAST, AS WELL AS ONE OF THE TRIMBLE FACILITIES TO THE, UH, TO THE WEST.
SO AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE THE REZONING ANALYSIS, UM, AND WE LOOK AT THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, INDICATES THAT THIS AREA REALLY STRADDLES TWO, TWO DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
ONE IS THE NORTH TOWN, UM, PATTERN AREA, WHICH IS THE PURPLE, WHICH REALLY RECOGNIZES CONTINUED GROWTH, LARGELY IT'S RESIDENTIAL.
UM, CONTINUE TO GROW TO THE NORTH, UH, INTO MIAMI COUNTY.
UH, AND THEN TO THE WEST AND SOUTH, UM, IS THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL PATTERN, WHICH RECOGNIZES THAT THIS IS KIND OF THE, THE COMMERCIAL CLUSTER OR NUCLEUS, UH, WITHIN THE AREA.
UH, AND IT EMPHASIZES BEAUTIFICATION, REUSING OF EXISTING PARKING AREAS AND GROWING, UH, NEW BUSINESSES.
GIVEN IT'S GIVEN THE SITE'S CONTEXT WITHIN THE PATTERN, UH, AREAS.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN TECHNICALLY IN THE NORTHTOWN PAT PATTERN AREA ADJACENT TO THE, UH, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL PATTERN AREA, AS WELL AS BEING ON OLD TROY PIKE, WHICH IS A MAJOR, UH, ARTERIAL.
UH, IT IS FOUNDED TO THE NORTH BY PLAN COMMERCIAL, UH, TO THE NORTH OF THAT IS I BELIEVE A DRIVE THROUGH.
AND THEN TO THE NORTH OF THAT IS A FIRE STATION.
UM, STAFF FEELS THE REZONING FROM R ONE TWO PLANNED COMMERCIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
MOVING ON TO THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN ITSELF.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A 2200 SQUARE FOOT PICKUP
[00:30:01]
AND DELIVERY ONLY DOMINO'S PIZZA STORE.UM, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A BASIC, UH, SITE PLAN ILLUSTRATING THE USE, THE PARKING AND THE CIRCULATION.
SO WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO IS, UH, I, THEY HAVE A, A CONTRACT FOR THIS, UH, JUST UNDER AN ACRE 0.98 ACRES.
UH, THE BALANCE OF THE SITE WOULD BE, UM, ALSO MARKETED AS, UH, PLANNED COMMERCIAL.
UM, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT SETBACK OR DISTANCE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS TO THE EAST, UH, AND THE PROPOSED DETENTION POND.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN, THE APPLICANT HASN'T GIVEN US ANY INDICATION AS TO PROPOSED USES, UH, ON THAT SECOND PARCEL.
UH, THEY WOULD SHARE A DRIVEWAY, UM, AND, AND CIRCULATION.
UM, SO I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.
AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN, UH, RIGHT NOW THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE SET BACK, UH, 73 FEET FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE OF OLD TROY PIKE.
OUR PLAN COMMERCIAL, UH, CODE REQUIRES, OR YEAH, REQUIRES 75 FEET.
THE PARKING SETBACK, IT'S 25 FEET IS ACCEPTABLE.
UH, THERE IS A 10 FOOT SETBACK RIGHT NOW.
WHAT'S SHOWN IS A 10 FOOT SETBACK BETWEEN THE DRIVE AISLE ON THE NORTH TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
THAT COUPLED WITH THE, UH, SETBACK BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE DRIVE AISLE OF THE, UM, UH, CAR WASH GIVES ABOUT 15 TO 20 FEET OF KIND OF A GREEN STRIP, WHICH IS ALREADY PLANTED.
SO, UH, FROM STAFFS VIEW THIS SETBACK, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD HAD 'EM, UH, INCREASE IT A LITTLE BIT, SHOULD NOT IMPACT THE PLANTED LANDSCAPING THAT'S ALREADY ALONG OR THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
BETWEEN, UM, THIS SITE AND THE, UM, UH, THE CAR WASH, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED WAS THAT THE DUMPSTER BE KIND OF ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS SITE.
WE HAD THEM MOVE IT TO THE FAR, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER TO GET IT AS NEARLY AS FAR AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, AREA AS YOU COULD.
UM, FIRE DEPARTMENT DID HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT THEY WANT THAT TURNING RADIUS BETWEEN THE CURVED AREA AND THE, UH, DUMPSTER TO BE ENLARGED A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT I'VE SUGGESTED IS THAT THE APPLICANT JUST PULL THE SITE A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE EAST, ENLARGE IT, YOU KNOW, THEY ONLY NEED TO GO A HANDFUL OF FEET, UH, TO MAKE THAT, UH, THAT TURNING RADIUS WORK FOR THE FIRE APPARATUS.
AND THEY HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO TO PLAY WITH.
SO AS FAR AS THE, UM, BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN STANDARDS AND THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE PLAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, SO IF THE, IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED, THE REZONING IS APPROVED, UM, RETAIL USES ARE PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED IN THE DISTRICT.
UH, AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE FRONT SETBACK IS PROPOSED AT 25 FEET, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UM, PLAIN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARD.
RIGHT NOW, THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE SET BACK AT 73.
THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD IS 75.
AGAIN, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO, TO SLIDE THIS TO THE EAST, UM, TO, TO GAIN THOSE, UH, THAT TWO EXTRA FEET.
THE NORTH SETBACK IS 10 FEET, AS I SAID, BETWEEN COUPLED BETWEEN THAT AND THE, UH, CAR WASH.
THAT DISTANCE SHOULD BE ABOUT, WOULD BE AROUND 15 FEET, WHICH, UH, IS ADEQUATE ROOM FOR LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING.
LANDSCAPING LIGHTING PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN SUBMITTED, BUT WOULD BE REVIEWED WITH THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
UH, BUILDING ELEVATIONS WERE NOT PROVIDED AGAIN, BUT WOULD BE REVIEWED WITH THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
AS FAR AS PARKING AND LOADING GOES, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 21 SPACES, UH, THE CODE, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU INTERPRET THE CODE, UM, SINCE THERE'S NOT REALLY, THERE IS NO INTERNAL DINING, UH, AT THIS SITE.
UH, THE WAY I'M INTERPRETING THE CODE IS THAT, UM, ONLY 15 SPACES ARE REALLY REQUIRED SINCE THIS IS JUST PICKUP AND DELIVERY.
UM, AND THE PARKING, UH, STALL DIMENSIONS ARE 20 BY 18 AS REQUIRED.
UM, SIGN PACKAGE WAS NOT SUBMITTED, UM, BUT WOULD BE REVIEWED AT A LATER DATE.
AS FAR AS THE STANDARDS FOR APPROVAL, I'M NOT GONNA HIT EVERY ONE OF 'EM.
IT WAS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I WILL HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS, UH, AT LEAST FROM MY VIEW AS THE HIGHLIGHTS.
SO THE FIRST STANDARD, UH, IS WHETHER IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OFFICIAL THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, OR OTHER APPLICABLE PLANS AND POLICIES.
IT IS STAFF'S OPINION THAT THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON ARTER ON AN ARTERIAL STREET AND WILL SHARE, UH, ONE CURB CUT.
[00:35:02]
STANDARD F IS, UH, ESSENTIALLY IS ABOUT, UH, THE LOCATION OF STRUCTURES, UH, THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE PARKING AREAS, WALKS, LIGHTING, ET CETERA.UM, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE SITE PLAN IS GENERALLY WELL ARRANGED AND THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION IS EFFICIENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE INTENDED USE.
UM, LANDSCAPING IS NOT BEEN PROVIDED, BUT WILL BE REVIEWED WITH THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
STANDARD G UH, IS THAT THE, UH, THE PLAN SHALL PRESERVE NATURAL FEATURES SUCH AS WATER COURSES, TREES, ROCK OUT CROPS TO THE DEGREE POSSIBLE SO THAT THEY CAN ENHANCE THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE, THE PUD.
THE PERIMETER OF THIS SITE, UH, HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MATURE TREES AND VEGETATION THAT THAT REALLY DOES SERVE AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THIS PARTICULAR SITE IN THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, UM, STRUCTURES.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE SOUTH AND EAST PERIMETER REMAIN UNDISTURBED AND ALL HEALTHY TREES REMAIN.
UH, AND THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT, THAT THEIR TREE SURVEY, UM, BE TAKEN, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, ONE, DETERMINE WHICH, WHICH TREES ARE ON THEIR PROPERTY VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND THEN ALSO WHICH TREES ARE, UH, ARE HEALTHY.
UH, THE STREET TREES ALONG OLD TROY PIKE, UM, ARE REALLY GROWING INTO THE UTILITY LINES AND NEED AND SHOULD BE REMOVED.
UM, AND WE CAN WORK WITH THEM IF THIS MOVES FORWARD ON BETTER PLACEMENT OF, OF THOSE STREET STREET TREES.
ITEM K IS THAT, UM, THE USE SHALL NOT INVOLVE USELESS ACTIVITIES, PROCESSES, MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT AND CONDITIONS OF OPERATION.
IT SHALL BE DETRIMENTAL TO ANY PERSON PROPERTY, UH, OR THE GENERAL WELFARE BY REASON OF EXCESSIVE PRODUCTION OF TRAFFIC, NOISE, SMOKE, FUMES, AND GLARE.
UM, SO STAFF'S VIEW THAT ALL THE PROPOSED USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING BEING REQUESTED.
STAFF DOES NOT ANTICIPATE EXCESSIVE NOISE, TRAFFIC OR FUMES.
UH, AND THAT SCREEN DUMPSTER IS LOCATED, UH, REALISTICALLY AS FAR AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL USE, UH, AS YOU COULD PUT IT, AND STILL MAINTAIN THAT CIRCULATION.
UH, IN DISCUSSING THE, UM, PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHAT THE APPLICANT, UM, WHAT THEY'VE SAID, WHAT THEY TOLD US IS, UH, AT A HEAVY USE, THERE MIGHT BE 10 DRIVERS ON A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN THEY, UM, WHEN THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A, A HEAVY, UH, CALL VOLUME, UH, LUNCHTIME USUALLY HAS TWO OR THREE COOKS AND TWO DRIVERS.
SO IT REALLY IS, UM, JUST DEPENDS.
SO IT GOES WITH NORMAL PIZZA TIMES.
UM, BUT THEY DO NOT TAKE DRIVE UP ORDERS.
UH, ALL ORDERS NEED TO BE TAKEN IN ADVANCE.
SO THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT A, UH, A MENU BOARD OR OUTDOOR SPEAKERS OR ANY OF THAT THAT YOU WOULD ASSOCIATE WITH THE, OF THE DRIVE THROUGH.
UM, THE REZONING ITEM, I, EXCUSE ME, L UH, THE REZONING OF THE LAND, UH, TO THE PUD DISTRICT AND APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHALL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC PEACE, HEALTH, MORAL SAFETY, OR WELFARE.
SO STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, AND WILL LIKELY NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UM, WE DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS.
UM, FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, WANTS THEM TO ADD A, UH, FIRE HYDRANT ON OLD TROY PIKE.
UH, AND AS I MENTIONED, TO ADJUST THE TURNING RADIUS, UH, NEAR THE DUMPSTER AND, UH, THAT THE, UH, PARKING CURB, UH, THE ENGINEER HAD NO COMMENTS AS FAR AS, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE REZONING FROM R ONE TO PLAN COMMERCIAL.
ITS STAFF OPINION THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 1170 1.06 CAN BE MET, UM, RECOMMENDS THE REZONING AND BASIC DEVELOP APPROVAL OF THE REZONING AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH, UH, FOUR CONDITIONS.
UM, THE FIRST DEALS WITH THE TREES, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT ASSESS THE HEALTH OF THOSE EXISTING TREES ALONG THE SITES EAST AND SOUTH PERIMETER, AND THOSE GET INCORPORATED INTO THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.
UH, AND THEN THE APPLICANT ALSO DEVELOP A, UH, TREE PROTECTION PLAN TO CONS TO PROTECT ANY KEY TREES.
UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT WOULD WORK WITH STAFF TO DETERMINE THE FINAL STREET TREE, UH, PLACEMENT DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PARTICULARLY ALONG OLD TROY PIKE.
ASSIGN SHALL CONFORM WITH CHAPTER 1189 UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THIS BODY DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
AND THEN CONDITION FOUR IS KIND OF OUR STANDARD.
NOW THAT PERMITTED USES WILL BE THOSE, UH, PERMITTED IN CHAPTER, UH, 11 76 0 1
[00:40:01]
EXCEPT THE FOLLOWING VEHICLE.SALES, RENTAL OR SERVICE SWEEP STAKES, CAFES, SHORT TERM LENDERS, DRY CLEANERS, UH, OR OUTDOOR SALES AND STORAGE UNLESS APPROVED BY THIS BODY.
SO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION CAN TAKE AGAIN, THE, THE SAME THREE ACTIONS, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS RECOMMEND, DENIAL OF THE REZONING AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR TABLE THE APPLICATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. VARGO? UM, I THINK YOU ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
UH, CAN YOU, ARE THERE BUILDINGS ON THAT LOT? THERE ARE TWO HOUSES AND, UH, THEY ARE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES AT THIS TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE OCCUPIED, BUT THEY ARE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES.
AND THOSE WILL BE RAISED? CORRECT.
UM, AND, UM, YOU'RE PRETTY SURE THAT THE, PARTICULARLY THE SOUTH SIDE TREES WILL BE UNDISTURBED.
CAN WE MAKE THAT PRETTY FIRM BECAUSE IT WILL BE ADJACENT TO THE OTHER RESIDENCE? YES.
SO THERE ARE TWO PROTECTIONS THAT, THAT WE WOULD IMPOSE ON THIS.
ONE IS THE, SO THE SOUTH SIDE'S NOT BEING DEVELOPED YET.
UM, SO THE UNDERLYING ZONING CONTROL OF THIS BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, WHICH BASICALLY IS REQUIRING THE SOUTH AND EAST, UH, PERIMETER TO BE PRESERVED.
UH, AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, ANY SITE PLAN THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THIS BODY, AGAIN FOR THE SOUTH SITE, WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, EVALUATE THAT PLAN, THOSE TREES, THE BUFFERING AND SCREENING, UM, BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE RESIDENCE.
I'M LESS WORRIED ABOUT THE AREA TO THE NORTH AS A CAR WASH.
AND ARE WE REZONING THE ENTIRE PARCEL? YES.
EVEN THOUGH ONLY HALF OF IT WILL BE FOR THE PIZZA, CORRECT? YES.
SO, UM, BASICALLY THE RED OUTLINE ARE THE, IS THE REZONING AND THEN THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ONLY APPLIES TO MM-HMM,
I'LL SAVE THE REST FOR THE DETAIL.
MR. JEFFRIES, AARON, JUST TO, I GUESS TO PUT ON THE RADAR, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, UH, MEASUREMENTS OUT FRONT ON 2 0 2 RIGHT THERE, WHERE IT DROPS DOWN ON THE MERGE LANE.
I KNOW YOU'D MENTIONED THE TREES COVER, THE TREES COVER THE SIGN THAT SHOWS THE MERGE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THERE.
BUT I MEAN, IT GOES DOWN FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE, BACK TO TWO LANES WHERE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO TURN LEFT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD LOOK AT SEEING IF IT WOULD FIT TO JUST NOT MERGE ANYMORE.
YEAH, LET ME, UH, LET ME LOOK AT THAT WITH ROSS.
JUST, JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE IN THIS AREA NOT THEN TO DO WITH THIS PLAN, BUT WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE GONNA BE OBVIOUSLY ADDING SOME TRAFFIC PATTERN TO THE AREA.
THERE'S A LOT OF CURB CUTS ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD TOO, SO WHEN WE GET INTO PEOPLE TRYING TO TURN LEFT OUT THERE INTO MERGING TRAFFIC, I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PAINT ON THE STREET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU SIR.
MM-HMM,
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS ART HARDIN AND CALIBER ENGINEERING.
ALSO HAVE, UH, MR. ED SLATER HERE WITH THE, UH, THE RESTAURANT.
SO THEY CAN, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OPERATION AND EVERYTHING, HE CAN PROBABLY ANSWER 'EM BETTER THAN I CAN.
UH, STAFF DID A, GET A, DID A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
UH, REASON WE KIND OF BROKE THIS UP INTO TWO PHASES.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE ZONING BEFORE WE WENT THROUGH AND DID ALL THE, OUR ENGINEERING AND FINAL DESIGN AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UH, PLUS, UH, A TIMING AND GETTING THIS DONE.
AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS AT, AT THE NEXT PHASE, UH, OF THE LIGHTING AND THE LANDSCAPING.
UH, WE'VE TALKED STAFF AND STAFF WHO WORK WITH US TO, UH, UH, ADJUST THE SITE PLAN.
AND I WILL SAY THAT WE WERE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH, UH, OUR FRONT BUFFER THAN, UH, WHAT STAFF ALLOWED US TO DO.
SO WE END UP MOVING EVERYTHING BACK.
UM, AS FAR AS THE 75 FOOT SETBACK, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT EASY ENOUGH.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING TWO FEET DIFFERENCE, SO THAT, THAT'S NOT REALLY AN ISSUE FROM OUR CONCEPT.
AND THE FIRE MARSHAL'S COMMENTS, UH, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO A CONTRACTOR WITH REGARDS TO COST TO BRING
[00:45:01]
A HYDRANT ACROSS AND, UH, THE RADIUSS WILL JUST WORK THAT OUT WHEN WE GO TO FINAL DESIGN.BUT, UH, WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE, UH, FIRE MARSHAL'S COMMENT WITH REGARD TO THE FIRE HYDRANT AND KIND OF IDENTIFIED WHAT WE THINK THE COST IS GONNA BE.
SO THAT WILL GO INTO THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
UH, AS FAR AS THE TREES, UH, WE'VE TALKED WITH THAT.
UM, WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO, UH, UH, REMOVE ANY MORE TREES TO THE EAST THAN NECESSARY FOR WHAT WE NEED.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD JUST DO SOME CLEANUP 'CAUSE THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL, UM, CLUM OF TREES THAT ARE ON, ON THE, THE WEST SIDE OR EAST SIDE.
SO WE, WE WILL MAINTAIN THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM, UH, AND IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC DISTANCE, A, UH, 10 FEET OR 15 FEET OR WHATEVER IT IS, UH, TO PROTECT THE TREES, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE, THE TWO BUILDINGS, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE NOT OCCUPIED NOW.
AND, UH, THAT, UH, THE GOAL WOULD BE AS SOON AS WE GET APPROVALS AND EVERYTHING, BOTH BUILDINGS WOULD BE DEMOLISHED TOGETHER SO THAT THERE'S NOT A, A VACANT BUILDING THERE TO CREATE A HAZARD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, THAT'S SORT OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
COULD YOU SIGN IN ON THAT SIGN IN SHEET PROVIDED PLEASE? THANK YOU, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? UH, YOU RAN THROUGH A LIST OF CANDOS AND CAN'T DOS.
MY NAME'S DAVE STUDEBAKER AND I LIVE UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YOU RAN THROUGH A LIST OF CANDOS AND CAN'T DOS FOR THE, FOR THE SPACE SPACE THAT YOU'RE GONNA REZONE.
CAN YOU REDO THAT OR WHERE DO, WHERE, WHERE CAN I GO TO FIND OUT WHAT THOSE CANDOS AND CAN'T DOS ARE FOR THE, FOR WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR REMAINING STRIP OF LAND THERE? YES.
SO, UM, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS, UH, WHAT USES ARE PERMITTED IN THE PLANNED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
SO IF YOU LOOK IN OUR ZONING CODE, OR I CAN JUST GIVE YOU THE LIST, UH,
UM, I CAN GET THAT LIST TO YOU.
UM, BUT WHAT IS PROHIBITED ARE, UH, IN MY VIEW, WHAT ARE THE THOSE, UH, USES THAT WOULD BE MOST IMPACTFUL TO, UM, THE NEIGHBORS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROHIBITING BARS.
UH, SO TAVERNS WOULD BE ALLOWED AS PART OF A RESTAURANT.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CASE? WE WILL CLOSE THE PO UH, PUBLIC PORTION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TJ L DASH C-E-S-L-L-C FOR APPROVAL OF REZONING AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN? THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 89 20 OLD TROY PIKE, ZONING CASE RZ 24 DASH 22 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED OCTOBER 10TH, 2024, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERETO MOVED BY MS UH, THOMAS.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. JEFFRIES? SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MS. VARGO? YES.
MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ZERO, WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, I WILL GET WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, AS FAR AS NEXT STEP WHEN THIS MOVES TO, UM, CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION FOR THE REZONING OF BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT, GRAY FOX CAPITAL, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 159 UNIT TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT ON 24.6 ACRES.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 54 25 CHARLES GATE ROAD, UH, DBDP 24 DASH 23, MR.
[00:50:01]
RELL.OKAY, SO THIS IS PROPOSAL FOR 159 UNIT TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT.
UH, SO THE SITE IS 24.6 ACRES.
HOLD ON, LET ME CLOSE THE DOOR.
SO THE UH, SITE IS 24.6 ACRES.
IT'S ZONED CURRENTLY PLANNED RESIDENTIAL.
UM, THE ADJACENT LAND, UH, ZONING WISE, UH, TO THE WEST IS AGRICULTURE.
TO THE NORTH IS A MIXTURE OF R TWO AND R SIX.
TO THE EAST IS PLANNED PUBLIC AND PRIVATE GROUNDS AND TO THE SOUTH IS AGRICULTURE.
SO THIS IS THE SITE, UM, IT PART OF THE SITE FRONTS ON WILDCAT.
THE OTHER, UH, THE EAST SIDE FRONT'S ON CHARLES GATE, UH, TO THE SOUTH IS THE, UM, HIDDEN HEIGHTS CAMPGROUND THAT IS, UH, UNDER, UNDER DEVELOPMENT, UH, AT THE MOMENT TO THE EAST IS, UH, LAND, OR EXCUSE ME, TO THE WEST, IS LAND THAT IS OWNED, UM, SOMEWHAT BY THE CITY, SOME BY TRI-CITIES, UM, UH, WASTEWATER.
UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SHOPPING CENTER ON THE OTHER, OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, YEAH, SHOPPING CENTER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, CHARLES GATE, AS WELL AS, UH, SOME INSTITUTIONAL USES.
SO I MENTIONED THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL FOR 159 UNIT TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT ON 24.6 ACRES.
UM, THE PROPOSED TOWN HOMES ARE TWO STORIES WITH ATTACHED GARAGES.
UH, IT ALSO INCLUDES 8.33 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, AS WELL AS, UH, WALKING PAST THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
THE SITE IS, UH, IS, IS ALL WOODS, UH, WITH, UH, STREET STEEP RAVINE, UH, AND A STREAM THAT BISECTS THE SITE, UM, THAT RAVINE AND STREAM HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN, UH, SORT OF BARRIERS TO, TO ITS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS APPLICANT IS ESSENTIALLY PROPOSING TWO DEVELOPMENTS ON, ON THE SITE.
UM, AND THEN THOSE TWO DEVELOPMENTS ARE CONNECTED VIA WALKING PASS.
ONLY, UH, PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THIS SITE HAVE LOOKED AT SPANNING THE, THE, THE CREEK, THE CREEK WITH A BRIDGE AND WAS JUST FOR THE SIZE OF THIS SITE WAS JUST COST PROHIBITIVE.
SO THERE'LL BE, UH, ACCESS OFF OF WILDCAT, ACCESS OFF OF CHARLES GATE TO GET BETWEEN THEM.
UH, YOU GOTTA DO IT VIA BIKE OR, UH, VIA WALK.
MUCH OF THE STREAM AREA, UM, SURROUNDING TREES AND VEGETATION SHOULD REMAIN, UH, UNDISTURBED.
THIS IS THE SITE ALONG WITH THE, UH, THE CONTOURS YOU CAN SEE IS PRETTY STEEP, UH, DROP INTO THE RAVINE.
UH, THAT GREEN LINE IS AN 18 INCH SEWER, UM, THAT BISECT THE SITE.
THE BLUE LINES ARE, WHICH ARE TOUGH TO SEE, BUT THE BLUE LINES ARE, UH, THE STREAM THAT GOES NORTH, SOUTH IS NATURALLY OCCURRING.
THE STREAM THAT COMES FROM THE EAST, UM, IS REALLY JUST A STORMWATER OUTFLOW THAT OVER TIME HAS CREATED A STREAM.
UM, SO BOTH OF THOSE THEN FEED INTO THE STREAM THAT HEADS SOUTH, UH, THAT GOES INTO THE HIDDEN HEIGHTS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY DOWN TO THE, TO THE MIAMI RIVER.
THE, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
YOU CAN SEE ESSENTIALLY TWO SEPARATE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CONNECTED BY, UH, WALKING PATHS, UH, ATTACHED TOWN HOME TYPE OF, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS IS JUST A TYPICAL, THIS IS KIND OF THE TYPICAL LAYOUT.
UH, AS FAR AS ON THE CHARLES GATE SIDE, THEY, THEY'RE SETBACK PRETTY FAR OFF OF CHARLES GATE.
UM, PARTIALLY THAT'S BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE, THE UTILITIES, UH, ARE NOT ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THERE ARE UTILITIES THAT ARE BACK A LITTLE FURTHER OFF THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK.
SO WE WANTED, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS, UH, AMPLE ROOM FOR THEM NOT TO DISTURB THE UTILITIES THAT, UH, THAT RUN ALONG CHARLES GATE.
UH, THE TYPICAL SETBACK, UH, AS FAR AS THE OTHER BUILDINGS, UH, IT'S ABOUT 20, UM, ABOUT 20 FEET FROM BACK, A CURB TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UH, AT, OR SORRY, EXCUSE ME, 25 FEET FROM BACK.
A CURB TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH, UH, ALLOWS FOR, UH, PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY.
BUILDINGS ARE SET BACK RIGHT NOW, UH, ABOUT 25 FEET, UH, BETWEEN EACH BUILDING.
UH, AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH A TYPICAL, UM, 60 FOOT DEPTH, UH,
[00:55:01]
STRUCTURE.THE OTHER SIDE IS MORE OF A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN AS FAR AS, UM, KIND OF A GRIDDED STREETS APPROACH.
UM, THE ONE AREA THAT WE HAVE, UH, REQUESTED THE APPLICANT PROVIDE, UH, IS ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY ON WILDCAT.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO IMPROVE WILDCAT ON THEIR SIDE AS FAR AS WIDENING, UH, ADDING, UM, CURBS, UH, SIDEWALKS.
THE, THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, IF YOU RECALL, UM, HAS A PROPOSAL, A 14 AND A HALF MILE LOOP, UH, BIKEWAY LOOP THAT GOES AROUND THE, THE CITY PART OF IT WOULD INTERSECT INTO THIS PART OF WILDCAT.
SO WE'VE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY FOR US AT SOME FUTURE POINT TO BUILD, UH, A, A 11 OR 12 FOOT WIDE, UH, MULTI YOUTH PATH.
SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA OBJECT TO THAT.
THE OTHER, UH, BENEFIT, SO TO SPEAK, UH, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO BRING WATER DOWN WILDCAT THAT HELPS HIDDEN HEIGHTS BECAUSE ONE OF THEIR CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE IS FIRE PROTECTION DOWN AT HIDDEN HEIGHTS.
THIS WILL BRING, UH, WATER DOWN TO, TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE TO THE SOUTH.
THIS IS THE, UM, THEIR ARTIST RENDERING OF, UM, WHAT THEY'RE EN ENVISIONING AS FAR AS THE TOWN HOME PRODUCT.
UM, SO AS FAR AS THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL, UM, DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, SO IT IS ZONED PLANNED RESIDENTIAL, UH, TOWNHOMES ARE A PERMITTED USE.
WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS A GROSS DENSITY OF SIX AND A HALF DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, AND THEN THE NET DENSITY WHEN YOU FACTOR OUT THE OPEN SPACE.
SO THE DENSITY OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT ON IS 9.77, UH, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ALLOWS A NET DENSITY UP TO 12 UNITS AN ACRE, SO IT DOES FIT WITHIN THE ZONING CODE DENSITY PARAMETERS.
UH, THE MILL, THE MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACKS ARE 25 FEET FROM THE BACK OF CURB, WHICH IT MEETS.
UH, THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS, LIKE I SAID, BETWEEN BUILDINGS IS 25 FEET.
UM, LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN SUBMITTED, UH, WHICH IS TYPICAL DURING THIS PHASE, UH, BUT WOULD BE REVIEWED DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
UH, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ELEVATIONS, THE CONCEPT DRAWINGS ILLUSTRATE A MIXTURE OF, UH, SIDING STYLES INCLUDING, UH, STONE ACCENTS, UH, ACCENTS.
BUT THE, UH, ULTIMATELY THOSE TOWNHOUSE ELEVATIONS WOULD BE REVIEWED WITH THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, APPLICATION.
CONTINUING ON TO PARKING AND LOADING, THE APPLICANT IS PRO, UH, PROPOSING 347 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS 2.18 SPACES PER UNIT.
UH, PARKING IS PROVIDED BY, UH, TO ATTACH GARAGES, DRIVEWAY SPACES, AND THERE'S A FEW OFF STREET SPACES FOR, UH, WHAT I WOULD ASSUME FOR VISITORS.
UM, THERE, AS FAR AS SIGNS, THERE IS A CONCEPT ENTRY FEATURE SIGN, UM, ILLUSTRATION THAT WAS PROVIDED, UM, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE GATE THERE, THE GATEWAY SIGN INTO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE FINAL SIGN DESIGN WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THIS BODY, UH, AS PART OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
AS FAR AS THE ANALYSIS FOR STANDARDS APPROVAL, AGAIN, I'M, IT WAS ALL LAID OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I'M GONNA HIT KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE.
UM, FIRST STANDARD FOR APPROVAL IS IF IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OFFICIAL THOROUGHFARE PLANS, COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND OTHER APPLICABLE PLANS AND POLICIES.
SO THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS LOCATED IN THE RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AREA.
THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THAT, UM, THAT AREA IS TO STRUCTURE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND TRAILS AND GREEN NETWORKS FOCUS ON TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, DEVELOPMENT OR TRAIL ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PRINCIPLES.
UH, LIKE I SAID, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENVISIONS THAT 14 AND A HALF MILE LOOP, UH, PART OF WHICH WOULD TRAVEL ALONG WILDCAT NEAR THIS PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S STAFF'S OPINION THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN SITES REALLY LOCATED ON, UH, UNDERUTILIZED STREETS, PARTICULARLY CHARLES GATE, UM, IS DESIGNED WITH, UH, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, PRINCIPLES AND COULD SERVE OR WILL SERVE AS ONE SECTION OF, OF THAT LOOP.
ITEM C IS, UH, WHETHER THE SITE IS ACCESSIBLE FOR PUBLIC ROADS THAT ARE ADEQUATE TO CARRY THE TRAFFIC
[01:00:01]
THAT SHOULD BE OPPOSED UPON THEM.UM, SO THE SECTIONS OF WILDCAT AND CHARLES GATE, WELL WILDCAT WILL BE IMPROVED, UH, AT LEAST FOR THEIR PARTICULAR, UH, PERIOD, UH, IN FRONT OF THEIR SECTION.
CHARLES GATE IS FULLY, UH, IMPROVED.
STAFF'S OPINION IS THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE CAPACITY, STREET CAPACITY TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WILDCAT WILL BE IMPROVED TO CITY STANDARDS ALONG THAT DEVELOPMENT.
FRONTAGE, UH, ITEM, UH, G IS WHETHER THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH SHALL PRESERVE NATURAL FEATURES SUCH AS WATER COURSES, TREES, AND ROCK OUTCROPS TO THE DEGREE POSSIBLE SO THAT THEY CAN ENHANCE THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE PUD.
THE SITE PLAN REALLY FOCUSES AROUND THAT NATURAL RAVINE AND CREEK THAT THAT BISECTS THE SITE.
UM, THAT WILL, I THINK, BE THE SELLING POINT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S APTLY NAMED AFTER THE CREEK.
UM, THESE FEATURES WILL REMAIN WALKING PAST WILL BE INSTALLED SO THAT RESIDENTS CAN EASILY EXPERIENCE, UH, THAT AREA.
UH, LETTER ITEM H IS WHETHER THE SITE'S DESIGNED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE EXISTING LAND CONTOURS.
UM, SO THIS SITE IS BEING DESI, UH, DEVELOPED ON THE FLATTER AREA OF THE SITE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, GRADING IS GONNA BE REQUIRED FOR, UH, 'CAUSE IT IS A, IT IS A, IT'S A, IT'S A STEEP SITE, UM, BUT THE ACTUAL RAVINE AND CREEK AREA SHOULD REMAIN, UH, UNDISTURBED.
ITEM J IS, THAT SHOULD NOT CREATE EXCESSIVE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS AT PUBLIC COSTS OF PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES, UH, AND SHOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE ECONOMIC WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
STAFF DOES NOT ANTICIPATE, ANTICIPATE EXCESSIVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SERVICES ARE REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS WATER THAT DOES NEED TO BE BROUGHT DOWN, UM, ALONG WILDCAT, UM, WHICH WE FEEL WILL ALSO, UH, ULTIMATELY BENEFIT THE, UH, HIDDEN HEIGHTS CAMPGROUND AS WELL AS THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN, UM, ITEM K IS THAT THE USE SHALL NOT INVOLVE USES ACTIVITIES, PROCESSES, MATERIALS, ET CETERA, UM, THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO ANY PERSON'S PROPERTY OR THE GENERAL WELFARE BY REASON OF EXCESSIVE PRODUCTION OF TRAFFIC, NOISE, SMOKE, FUMES, GLARE, ODORS.
UH, ALL PROPOSED USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNED, UH, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT STAFF DOES NOT, UH, ANTICIPATE EXCESSIVE NOISE TRAFFIC, UH, OR FUMES.
UH, AND LASTLY, WHETHER THE REZONING OF THE LANDS TO THE PUD DISTRICT AND APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHALL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC PEACE, HEALTH, MORAL SAFETY OR WELFARE.
THE LOAN, THE LANDS ARE CURRENTLY ZONED FOR THIS PROPOSED USE.
UH, AND WE DO NOT FEEL THAT IT WILL, UH, NEGATIVELY IMPACT, UM, THE AREA.
SO, UH, THERE WERE SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, LARGELY REQUI, UH, REGARDING, UM, FUTURE LOCATION OF HYDRANTS AND JUST YOUR TYPICAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES, HYDRANT LOCATION, UM, BUILDING HEIGHTS, TURN, RADIUSS, ET CETERA.
THOSE COMMENTS WERE PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT IN THEIR ENGINEER.
UH, THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS WERE ALSO PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT.
THOSE REALLY WERE, UM, REVOLVED AROUND THE DETAILS OF, UM, THE WATER AND SEWER, UM, THE WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE BEING IN PUBLIC EASEMENTS, UH, THAT WAS REALLY, AND THAT THE WILDCAT BE IMPROVED TO, TO CITY STANDARDS.
THIS IS AS FAR AS THE ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE APPROVAL OF THIS BASIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, PLAN APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED ON SEPTEMBER 25TH.
UH, AND IT'S OUR OPINION THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 11 71 0 6 CAN BE MET.
WE DO HAVE A RECOMMEND, UH, A NUMBER OF, UH, CONDITIONS.
UM, ONE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ASSESSED THE HEALTH OF THE TREES ALONG THE STREAM SO THAT WE INCORPORATE HEALTHY TREES INTO, UH, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND WE PROTECT, UH, AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE ALONG THE RAVINE.
THE, THE HILLSIDE, UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD WORK WITH STAFF TO DETERMINE FINAL PLACEMENT OF STREET TREES IN PARTICULAR ALONG WILDCAT GIVEN, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF, UM, A FUTURE, UH, MULTI-USE PATH.
WE DON'T WANT TO PLANT THEM AND IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, COME AND CUT 'EM ALL DOWN.
UM, SIGNS WILL CONFORM WITH CHAPTER 1189 UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THIS BODY.
WATER AND SANITARY LINES SHALL BE PLACED IN PUBLIC EASEMENTS, UH, AND THE FRONTAGE ALONG WILDCAT SHALL BE IMPROVED TO CITY STANDARDS AND ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY SHALL BE DEDICATED FOR A FUTURE 10 TO 12 FOOT MULTI-USE PATH.
UH, SO ONCE AGAIN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THREE OPTIONS.
WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS.
RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR TABLE THIS APPLICATION FOR FURTHER
[01:05:01]
CONSIDERATION.ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. JEFF? SO AARON, NOT THE, NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT IN THE PICTURE IT JUST SHOWS THE TWO STORY TOWN HOMES.
I'M ASSUMING THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED TO BE THE TWO STORIES.
UH, I BELIEVE THEY ARE STILL REFINING.
THEY, UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS TWO STORIES IN THE MIDDLE AND USUALLY A SINGLE STORY ON THE END CAPS.
UH, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THERE IS A MIXTURE OF THAT BACK.
I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY IRRELEVANT, BUT ARE THE GARAGES A ONE, ONE CAR OR TWO CAR? IT'S HARD TO TELL ON THE PICTURES.
UH, AT THIS POINT I'M NOT EX I'M NOT SURE.
FARGO, ARE THERE ANY SIDEWALKS PROPOSED? SO WE, I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS AT THE MOMENT.
UM, WE HAVE, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ISN'T ROOM.
WE COULD PUT SIDEWALKS IN THERE.
IT WOULD FURTHER PUSH THE SITE SLIGHTLY INTO THE, THE RAVINE.
THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ALONG CHARLES GATE, THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ALONG WILDCAT, THERE'S INTERNAL WALKING PATHS.
UM, WHAT, WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS, UM, A TREATMENT OF THE ASPHALT SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE, UH, IN CARRIAGE TRAILS TWO.
SO THERE'S A DELINEATION BETWEEN THE, THE ASPHALT MATERIAL SO THAT IT, IT, IT BASICALLY DELINEATES A PEDESTRIAN WAY, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A STREET, FIVE FOOT STRIP OF GRASS, FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, MORE GRASS.
UM, MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE APPROVED RECENTLY, PARTICULARLY TOWNHOUSES THAT HAVE INTERIOR INTERNAL PRIVATE STREETS, DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.
UM, BUT THIS IS ON CHARLES GATE.
CHARLES GATE DOES HAVE SIDEWALK CHAR, CHARLES GATE HAS SIDEWALKS.
THE SIDEWALK CATT ALSO HAS SIDEWALKS.
WE HAVE, BUT THE INTERNAL, BUT NOT, NOT ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN, NO.
THE INTERNAL STREETS AT THE MOMENT, UH, ARE NOT, UH, PROPOSED TO HAVE SIDEWALKS, BUT CHARLES GATE AND WILDCAT WILL.
UM, I BELIEVE SOMETHING ELSE I, I DID NOTE THERE ARE A LOT OF FIRE PROPOSALS HERE AND, UH, I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT KIND OF CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS THE, UH, WATER MAIN HYDRANT, EXTENSION SIZES, IT LOOKS LIKE.
ANYWAY, ALL OF THESE, IT'S A COUPLE OF PAGES OF, UH, REQUIREMENTS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BECOME A PART OF THE PLAN THAT WOULD, WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.
CHARLES GATE IS RIGHT NOW USED ESSENTIALLY FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT TRAINING.
UM, 'CAUSE NOBODY ELSE USES IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, SO WE WILL BE RELOCATING THEIR, THEIR KIND OF, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY THE BASIC PLAN.
IT'S ONLY THE BASIC, UM, I THINK.
WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE DELINEATION AND THE CURBS, ARE YOU TALKING LIKE WHAT THE REDWOOD HAS IN CARRIAGE TRAILS? CORRECT.
SO JAN, IF YOU WANNA SEE BEFORE THE NEXT PLAN, THE HARRISON REDWOOD AND CARRIAGE TRAILS HAS THESE KIND OF SIDEWALKS AGAINST THE ROAD.
THEY, SO THE INTERNAL ONES THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THEY WORK PRETTY WELL.
IF THESE STREETS WERE LONGER, UM, I WOULD BE DEFINITELY ENCOURAGING SIDEWALKS.
BUT THESE STREETS ARE, ARE RELATIVELY SHORT.
SO I'M, I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT SPEEDING TRAFFIC.
AND IN LOOKING AT THE, AT THE INTERNAL ROADS, ACTUALLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE ROAD B AND ROAD A AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME PUTTING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER.
IS THIS GONNA BE DONE IN PHASES? YEAH.
SO BASICALLY THINK ABOUT IT AS, AS KIND OF TWO DEVELOPMENTS.
THE CHARLES GATE DEVELOPMENT AND THE WILDCAT DEVELOPMENT UHHUH, UM, THEY JUST SAY ROAD A, B, AND C BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A NAME FOR THEM YET.
AND THERE'S ONE WATER, UH, DE DETECTION OR REGION.
THERE'S, THERE'S THREE ACTUALLY.
SO THERE'S A MAIN ONE ON THE WEST SIDE.
MAIN ONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAVINE.
AND THEY'RE ALL THREE ON THE WILDCAT? NO, UH, THEY, THE, THE WATER DETENTION
[01:10:01]
AREAS ARE ALONG THE, THE CREEK AREA ALONG THE RAVINE.UM, SO THEY WERE, THEY'RE RIGHT HERE.
PROPOSED THE LARGE BASE IN HERE.
SO TELL ME, WHERE'S ROAD A AND ROAD B
I WOULD BE AND SPACE A WILDCAT AND SPACE B, SPACE TWO.
THAT WOULD BE THE CHEAPER WAY TO DO IT.
AND ON EITHER SIDE WHERE YOU ARE, THOSE ACTUALLY WALKING PATHS, THEY ARE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF PLANNING? MY NAME'S JAKE SHIELDS.
LEMME JUST SIGN IN REAL QUICK HERE.
SO, YES, I, I, UH, WORK FOR THE DEVELOPER OF GRAY FOX CAPITAL.
WE ARE LOOKING TO DO, UH, 159 UNITS AS AARON HAS, UH, DONE A WONDERFUL JOB, UH, TALKING THROUGH THIS PROJECT, UH, RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, I GUESS JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS THAT I, I WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL.
AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE SOME, JUST BASED OFF OF YOUR QUESTIONS, THE DESIRE FOR THIS PROJECT IS TO PROVIDE A TYPE OF HOME THAT CAN BE UNDER $3,000 IN THIS MARKET.
UH, WE ARE, UH, I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER TOWN HOMES, UH, BEING FOR SALE RIGHT NOW.
VERY NICE TOWN HOMES, UH, IN THE FOUR TO 500 THOUSANDS, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
UH, WE, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A, A WONDERFUL, UM, MIDDLE GROUND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOME.
THIS, THESE HOMES, WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING, UH, ALTHOUGH WE WE'RE THE DEVELOPER, WE'RE NOT THE BUILDER NECESSARILY.
SO WE ARE TALKING TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT BUILDERS, NOT UNDER CONTRACT WITH ANYONE.
BUT THE, UH, HOME THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
UM, IT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH A FIRST FLOOR MASTER, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A REALLY, UH, GREAT THING FOR A LOT OF FOLKS LOOKING TO MAYBE MOVE FROM A, YOU KNOW, HOUSE WHERE THEY, THEIR HOME IS, OR THEIR, THEIR, UH, BED IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
UH, AND THEY WILL BE FOR SALE PRODUCT, UH, AS, AS, AS DISCUSSED, THE CENTER OF THE PRO, UH, OF THE SITE HAS A STREAM.
IT HAS SOME REALLY WONDERFUL TREES.
I'VE WALKED IT A COUPLE TIMES NOW, VERY OLD TREES.
I, WE, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A, A FANTASTIC WALKING AREA THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY JUST ENJOY NATURE.
UH, IT'D BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR, FOR THOSE PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE, WHAT YOU WON'T SEE IS HOMES KIND OF LIKE A BARRACK STYLE.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME GRADING, THERE'S GONNA BE STEPS IN THE BUILDING PADS.
UM, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE ALL THE SAME, UH, LEVEL.
THE, THE, UH, ONE ITEM THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON TOO, WE ARE, UH, AND JUST MAKE, I GUESS JUST TO, FOR A NOTE ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE HOMES THAT ARE, UH, KIND OF A BUTTING UP TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.
THAT AREA HAS SOME REALLY BRUSH TREES.
I WAS KIND OF WALKING AT THE OTHER DAY.
I KNOW WE DISCUSSED ABOUT LEAVING THOSE, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST, IF MAYBE WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING A 20 FOOT BUFFER, YOU KNOW, FOR LANDSCAPING AND WHETHER IT'S LEAVING THOSE, THE KIND OF THE BRUSH TREE THAT IT DON'T LOOK SUPER GREAT.
SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, TIERED, UM, UH, UH, PINE TREES OR, OR WHATNOT.
UM, BUT WE, WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF, OF BUFFERING BETWEEN, UH, BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE PROJECT, WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING A TWO STORY, UH, A, A PROJECT ONLY.
WE'RE, UH, REALLY NOT CONSIDERING A THREE STORY PRODUCT HERE AT THE TIME, BEING THE, THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO USE IS A ONE CAR GARAGE, BUT IT HAS A TWO CAR DRIVEWAY SLOT.
UM, THE, UH, THE WATER MAIN EXTENSION COMMENT, UH, WE, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH FIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE ARE MEETING ALL THE STANDS OR SANDERS THAT THEY, THEY REQUEST.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH ARE DOING IS, IS, UH, ACCOMMODATED.
UH, AND IN TERMS OF PHASING, WE ARE DEFINITELY PLANNING ON STARTING ON THE EAST SIDE.
UH, BUT WE WOULD LOOK TO QUICKLY MOVE TO THE WEST SIDE AS WELL.
SO IT'D BE THE STARTING ON THE EAST SIDE
[01:15:01]
AND POTENTIALLY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AFTER STARTING SITE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'D BE STARTING ON THE WEST SIDE.UM, AND SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF A VERY GRADUAL, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS? THE, UH, INTER, I ACTUALLY USED TO WORK FOR REDWOOD
I, I WORKED AT THE, UH, I HELPED WITH THE, THE PROJECT HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, UH, INTEGRATED SIDEWALKS.
UH, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY LOOK INTO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE IT AND, BUT, BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE WORKING WITH STAFF AND MAKING SURE AS WE COME BEFORE THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR US TO ADD IN.
UM, AND I GUESS THE ONE QUESTION THAT AARON, I, I WANTED TO MAKE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S PLANNING FOR ON WILDCAT THAT 10 TO 12 FOOT, UM, UH, PATH.
IS THAT ACROSS THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE? WAS THAT SO WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY STARTED LAYING THAT OUT YET.
WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE JUST HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET IT ABSOLUTELY.
15 YEARS FROM NOW, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE TOTALLY FINE WITH DOING.
MY ONLY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT AFTERWARDS, WHERE WE PUT THE SIDEWALK AND WHETHER WE, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE SIDEWALK AND THEN RIP IT UP TO HAVE THE 10 TO 12 FOOT SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS.
BUT JUST A QUICK COMMENT ON IT.
DID YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO THE NORTH, THE, THE NORTHEAST? THAT'S, THAT'S A DISCUSSION POINT THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DISCUSS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, AS WE GET TO THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AMPLE LANDSCAPING THERE.
UM, AND AS I WAS WALKING, I, I JUST DIDN'T FEEL THAT THE CURRENT LAND, THIS CURRENT TREES WOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH COVERAGE.
SOMETHING WE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF, IF, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
I JUST WAS WANTING TO ENHANCE THAT AREA BECAUSE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DIS DIFFERENCE IN THE R FOUR, WHATEVER THAT IS.
AND, AND, AND THE APARTMENTS ARE, ARE THESE GONNA BE APARTMENTS OR CONDOMINIUMS, OR ARE THEY MARKET RATE FOR SALE MARKET.
I'M, WE ARE COMPLETELY OPEN WITH, UH, HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDITIONAL AND, AND ENHANCED LANDSCAPING ON THAT NORTH EDGE.
UM, WHAT I DIDN'T WANT WAS JUST CLEAR CUTTING WITHOUT THOUGHTFUL REMOVAL.
AND, AND MY THOUGHT IS WE WOULD COME BE COMING BACK AND PROVIDING A LANDSCAPE PLAN TO, THAT WOULD MEET AND EXCEED THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CITY.
THERE IS A LOT OF JUST SCRUB TREES THAT ARE RIGHT OFF A WILDCAT THAT MM-HMM.
INVASIVE THAT NEEDS TO RE REMOVE, BE REMOVED.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT MOVING FORWARD.
I, I AGREE MR. JEFFS JUST ON THAT, I MEAN, I THINK LOOKING AT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE FIVE HOUSES UP THERE ON THAT NORTHEAST LINE.
I MEAN, I WOULD JUST SAY JUST REACH OUT TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS BEFOREHAND AND YEAH.
MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSTEAD OF JUST TELLING 'EM WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN IMPROVEMENT ANYWAY, BUT I KNOW AS A NEIGHBOR, I'D FEEL BETTER IF SOMEBODY CAME AND MENTIONED IT.
AND SINCE THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF 'EM, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
IS THIS PARCEL ADJACENT TO THE CAMPGROUND? IT IS LAND IT, IS IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? I'M ONE OF YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS.
I LIVE, UH, UH, MY WIFE AND I AND, AND THE MCCOYS WHO ARE HERE WITH ME LIVE RIGHT NORTH OF THIS FACILITY, THE 25 ACRES THAT IS DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS FACILITY.
UH, SO WE'RE ROOTED DOWN IN HUBER HEIGHTS AND
[01:20:01]
WE CARE ABOUT WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS LOOK LIKE.I ALSO CARE ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC CONSIDERATIONS.
THERE'S NO CONVER THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FACT THAT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE STONE QUARRY.
THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S THE ONLY, UH, I THINK IT'S THE ONLY PROPERTY INSIDE THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS THAT'S ZONED HEAVY INDUSTRY.
IS THAT TRUE? SO IT'S ACTUALLY, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT.
IT'S ACTUALLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL FOR WHATEVER REASON.
NOW, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S ACCURATE, UH, BECAUSE I THOUGHT STONE QUARRIES WERE HEAVY INDUSTRY, BUT I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT'S CERTAINLY, IT'S THERE.
THAT'S, THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 70 YEARS.
IT'S OWNED BY, IT'S OWNED BY TRI-CITIES WASTEWATER.
AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY, IT WAS ORIGINALLY US STEEL.
AND SO, AND THERE'S STILL, THERE'S STILL, UH, STONE BEING MINED THERE AND CRUSHED WILL BE FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.
INTERESTING THAT YOU SAY CRUSHED BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF THE THING THAT GOES ON IS A SPIRITED AMOUNT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT GOES NORTH OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE CITY AND THEN GOES EAST THROUGH, UH, WHAT USED TO BE THE, WELL, I THINK STILL THE WILEY INDUSTRIAL PARK.
AND SO ALL OF THAT, ALL OF THAT TRUCK TRAFFIC, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TRUCKS THERE ARE A DAY, I WOULD SAY MAYBE 30, 40 SEMI-TRUCK LOADS OF STONE GO THROUGH THERE EVERY DAY.
SO IT'S A, IT IS PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF YOUR NEW CITY FOR YOUR NEW, YOUR NEW HOUSES.
UH, AND THERE'S, AND THERE'S DUST THAT SWIRLS OFF OF THOSE TRUCKS EVERY DAY.
I, I'M NOT, I DON'T COUNT 'EM, BUT THEY'RE THERE ANYWAY.
IT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE MOVING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GONNA HAVE TO LIVE WITH AND WE'LL HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH POSSIBLY.
I MEAN, THE DUST COMES THROUGH THE WOODS THAT WE OWN AND SETTLES ON YOUR CAR.
I NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T UNDO THAT ANYWAY.
BUT, UH, THERE IS A, THERE'S A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THERE.
AND SO WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU DO WITH, UH, WILDCAT ROAD, IT'S GONNA COST YOU SOMETHING.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, I DON'T KNOW WHO BEARS THAT.
MAYBE THE CITY BEARS IT, MAYBE THE DEVELOPER BEARS IT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE OF CONSIDERATION.
I DON'T THINK THE, I DON'T THINK THE CAR TRAFFIC AMOUNTS TO MUCH FOR, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S NOT ON THE ROAD, ROAD AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT, UH, UH, SO THERE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A CONSIDERATION ANYWAY FOR WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
AND A LOT OF THIS, I KNOW, IS A WORK IN PROGRESS, AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED IT ALL OUT YET WITH THE DEVELOPER OR WITH THE BUILDER.
UH, BUT, UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT BEAR ON THIS, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS STRUCK ME AS I WAS SITTING HERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BEARS ON THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, UM, JELLYSTONE PARK, IT'S A COMBINATION CAMPGROUNDS, AND THERE ARE CABINS INVOLVED WITH THAT TOO.
SO THERE IS SIGNIFICANT OUTDOOR COOKING, AND THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL SOUTH OF WHERE THIS IS.
BUT, UH, THE EAST, THE RUNWAYS OVER TO THE AIRPORT, RUN TO THE SOUTHWEST, SO THERE'S PREVAILING WEST WIND, UH, THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AT SOME POINT, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT HAPPENS IN, UH, JELLYSTONE PARK THAT AFFECTS THIS 160, 160 HOMES THAT ARE GONNA BE THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF RULES WE HAVE IN THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO, TO FIRES AND, AND COOK COOKING.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ACTION JELLYSTONE PARK IS GONNA GET, BUT IT'S 50 ACRES OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AND VACATIONING IN THERE.
SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION ANYWAY FOR YOU, FOR YOU GUYS AS YOU, AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS.
SO THIS WHOLE PROJECT, UH, I CAN THINK OF SEVERAL OTHER THINGS.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AS I SAT HERE AND, AND, UH, I'D BE INTERESTED IN BEING A, BEING PART OF THAT OR KNOW, KNOWING MORE ABOUT IT, UH, AS YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
[01:25:06]
AND THE, SO COMING FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THE TOPOGRAPHY REALLY STARTS TO RUN DOWNHILL.
AND SO THESE ARE ALL GONNA START THINKING DOWNHILL FROM THE BACK EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
I, UH, I AM DAVE MCCOY, UH, WHICH STU STUDEBAKER HAPPILY INTRODUCED ME.
UM, MY WIFE AND I AND, UH, OUR AUTISTIC SON, UH, LIVE, UH, JUST NORTH OF THIS PROPOSED, UH, UH, DEVELOP.
UM, AND WE MOVED IN AND THE OLD, UH, TED AND DOROTHY TEACH PROPERTY, UH, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OR RIGHT ACROSS THE DRIVE FROM THE STUDENT BAKERS.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NEW TO OHIO AND NEW TO HUBER.
UH, I RETIRED AFTER ABOUT 25 YEARS IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WORKING AT MICROSOFT AND OTHER TECH COMPANIES OUT THERE.
AND ONE OF THE LOVELY THINGS WE DID, WE SAID, OH, LET'S GO TO OHIO AND FIND A PLACE THAT HAS NICE CHARACTER.
WE'RE OVERLOOKING BEAUTIFUL MATURE TREES IN OUR BACKYARD, LOVELY CREEK BACK THERE, AND SURPRISE
SO I'M EAGER TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UH, I'M EAGER ALSO TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, TO NOT HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL VALUE AND CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY I PURCHASED A YEAR AGO, YOU KNOW, TURNED INTO SOMETHING MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I ANTICIPATED.
UH, AND I'M EAGER FOR THOSE CONSIDERATIONS TO BE TAKEN SO THAT I CAN BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, UH, TO MY NEW NEIGHBORS.
UM, THE ONE THING I THOUGHT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BEYOND JUST I, THEY WERE SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF SCRUB, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF MATURE TREES THAT ARE RIGHT IN THAT AREA ALONG THE LOT LINE BETWEEN US AND THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
AND I WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, PROVIDE APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPING AND PRIVACY.
SO AGAIN, SO THAT OUR PROPERTY DOESN'T GO FROM BEING ONE THING WHEN WE BOUGHT IT TO SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT, UH, A YEAR AND CHANGE LATER.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE IMPACT TO KELLENBERGER ROAD.
I THINK YOU MAY BE UNDERESTIMATING IT.
UH, KELLENBERGER CONNECTS WILDCAT WITH 2 0 2.
IT'S PRETTY SMALL BASIC ROAD, UH, ALONG THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S JUST TO OUR, UH, TO OUR OTHER SIDE.
WE SEE A LOT OF CUT ACROSS OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT THE SHOPPING CENTERS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO UP TO 40 WHEN THEY CAN JUST CUT THROUGH KELLENBERGER.
AND I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF TRAFFIC ALONG THAT ROADWAY.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO, TO KEEP IN MIND.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, HEY, I, I'D LOVE FOR THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I BOUGHT JUST A YEAR AGO NOT TO, TO BE FUNDAMENTALLY ALTERED AND FOR MY PROPERTY VALUE TO BE FUNDAMENTALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT WAS ABOUT ALL I HAD TO SAY.
AND I'LL SIGN IN 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS SUPPOSED TO.
YEAH, AND I, BY THE WAY, UH, THIS SURPRISE NOTWITHSTANDING, AND I'M SURE THERE'LL BE WAYS TO WORK IT OUT.
I'VE FOUND HUBBERT TO BE A LOVELY PLACE TO LIVE, SO THANKS VERY MUCH.
AND I'LL FIND A PEN THAT WORKS WITHOUT FLYING APART.
UM, MRS. BERGER ASKED WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT WORK WOULD PROPOSE TO BE STARTED.
WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL GET GOING ON THIS? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT MOST, ASSUMING THE PROCESS WOULD MOST LIKELY BE GETTING STARTED AND MAY OR JUNE NEXT YEAR? EXCUSE ME.
AND OBVIOUSLY SINCE WE'RE RIGHT HERE DIRECT THAT, AS THEY SAY, I'VE GOT A LOT OF, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MATURE LANDSCAPING IN THIS SPACE ON OUR PROPERTY, AND THEN THAT JUST FEATHERED OUT
[01:30:01]
INTO THIS DIRECT WOODS WITH A LOT OF, UH, MATURE TREES, YOU KNOW, JUST CHARACTER OF FOREST, WHICH IS WHAT REALLY ATTRACTED US TO THE PROPERTY.SO MY BIG CONCERN WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY ALONG THESE UNITS AND HOW THAT GETS LANDSCAPED.
SO IT DOESN'T BECOME THAT I'M LOOKING AT FROM GOING, WOW, I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FOREST NEARBY TO, WELL, LOOK, I HAVE THE BACK OF CONDOS AND I'M ENJOYING BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY DIRECT YOU FROM MY THANKS SO MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION.
SO I THINK AARON, THEY ASKED ABOUT BEING INVOLVED OR NOTIFIED AT LEAST OF PROCESSES AND STUFF.
I MEAN, WE WILL GOES FROM HERE TO COUNSEL THE DETAILED STAGE.
WE'RE A LITTLE WAYS OUT ON STILL, RIGHT.
SO TO JUST TO KIND OF HANDLE THINGS.
I KNOW THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP ON, ON SOME OF THE DETAILS.
THOSE WILL COME BACK THROUGH AND I'M ASSUMING THEY'D GET NOTIFIED AGAIN AT THAT POINT.
SO AS ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY'LL BE NOTIFIED AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
SO THE, THE COUNCIL MEETING WOULD BE PROBABLY SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER, MAYBE DECEMBER.
IT DEPENDS ON, UH, THE TIMING FOR NOTICES THAT, THAT WE NEED TO SEND OUT.
UH, AND THEN WHEN WE WORK THROUGH THE, THE ENGINEERING SIDE AND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT TREE CONDITIONS AND THE DENSITY OF THE, OF THE VEGETATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE IF, IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, GET STARTED IN APRIL, MAY, UH, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT SUBMITTALS IN MARCH-ISH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THEN, BUT PROBABLY MARCH.
MS. VARGO, UM, OH, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, UH, ABOUT THE 30 TRUCKS DAILY FROM THE, THAT YOU MENTIONED.
IS THAT A, A PRETTY ACCURATE STATEMENT? SO I DON'T KNOW.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT.
UM, I KNOW THAT WHEN, WHEN JAKE AND HIS TEAM FIRST, UH, REACHED OUT ABOUT THIS SITE, THE FIRST THING I SAID WAS, HEY, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GRAVEL PIT NEXT DOOR.
UM, YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? UM, SO, UM, I CAN GET TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR THAT.
UM, BUT I DON'T DIS I DON'T, UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE WRONG.
I MEAN, IT IS A WELL USED, UM, MINING OPERATION.
UM, SO I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T DOUBT THAT IT'S 30.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT THERE WERE THAT MANY TRUCKS.
AND, AND DO THEY, THEY DON'T USE, UH, THEY, THEY GO WILDCAT TO, THEY GO WILDCAT NORTH AND GIBSON.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, I MEAN, SO TRI-CITIES OWNS THE, THE PROPERTY NORTH OF, UM, OF THE, THE FIELD OR OF THE, OF THE LIMESTONE, UM, MINE, I GUESS GRAVEL OPERATION.
UM, AND THEY ALSO DO, UH, FIELD APPLICATIONS OF BIOSOLIDS NORTH OF THERE.
I MEAN THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THIS, IN THIS AREA.
SO THAT'S AN OPERATION THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT APT TO BE CHANGING ANYTIME SOON? NO, IT'LL BE AROUND FOR A WHILE.
SEE THAT, THAT'S, UH, INFORMATION THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF AT ALL, UH, THAT THERE WOULD BE THAT KIND OF TRUCK TRAFFIC, UH, THERE.
BUT THIS IS INFORMATION THAT THE CURRENT DEVELOPER IS AWARE OF? CORRECT.
THERE WE MAKE THE ROAD BETTER.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR REZONING.
IT IS ZONE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST, EXCUSE ME, BY THE APPLICANT, GRAY FOX CAPITAL, FOR APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN? THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 54 25 CHARLES GATE ROAD, CASE BDP, UH, 24 23 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFFS MEMORANDUM DATED OCTOBER THE 11TH, 2024, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S
[01:35:01]
DECISION, UH, RECORD ATTACHED THERE TOO.MOTION, UH, MOVED BY MS. THOMAS.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. JEFFRIES, THE SECRETARY.
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MS. VARGO? YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? SO, UM, I WILL NOTIFY THE APPLICANT OF WHEN WE'RE GONNA SCHEDULE THE, UH, CASE IN FRONT OF, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
WE'LL ALSO WORK WITH THE, UH, THE NORTHERN NEIGHBORS, UH, ABOUT THE, THE BUFFERING AND THE TREE PRESERVATION AND ET CETERA, UH, ON THAT NORTH EDGE.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS.
WE HAVE NONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES WITHOUT OBJECTIONS.
THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 10TH, EXCUSE ME, 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WILL BE APPROVED.
UM, REPORTS AND CALENDAR REVIEW MR. RELL.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT IS, UH, HEADED YOUR WAY, UM, IS, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER THE RHM DEVELOPMENT OFF OF EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.
UM, RHM HAS KIND OF MOVED, UH, HAS BROUGHT IN A DIFFERENT PARTNER.
SO THEY'VE BROUGHT IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, UM, CONCEPT, EXCUSE ME, STILL TOWNHOUSE APARTMENTS.
UM, BUT, UH, I'LL BE BRINGING A MINOR CHANGE, UM, TO THAT DEVELOPMENT IN FRONT OF YOU PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER.
SO SAME, ROUGHLY THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS, SLIGHTLY LESS, SAME CONCEPT, UH, THE BIG HOUSE THAT NOBODY REALLY LIKED, UM, THAT KIND OF, THAT DESIGN HAS GONE AWAY TO A MORE TRADITIONAL, UH, TOWNHOUSE STYLE, UM, DEVELOPMENT.
YOU'RE TALKING THIS, THESE ARE THE UNITS ON EXEC ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MYERS, CORRECT? ABOUT IT WAS ON ABOUT 17 ACRES, RIGHT? YEP.
ACROSS FROM TJ JUMPS? CORRECT? YEP.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO BRING ME BEFORE THE DICE? IS THAT ALL YOU HAD, MR. THAT'S ALL, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ALL THAT'S ON MY RADAR.
MS. VARGO, NICE SEEING YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND NICE TO BE BACK.
THANK YOU FOR ALL FOR ATTENDING THIS EVENING.