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[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE STATE OF HEBREW HEIGHTS.

THIS IS NOT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

I MUST HAVE CLICKED ON THEIR OWN WALL.

YEP.

THIS IS A CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

YOU CAN'T READ EVERYTHING THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.

SOMETIMES YOU GET, YOU'LL, YOU'LL MESS YOU UP.

SO THIS IS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

TODAY'S EIGHT'S AUGUST 20TH, 2024.

WE'RE GETTING STARTED AT 6 0 3.

UH, THIS MEETING'S OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDERS FOR ATTORNEY.

WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE, MR. DAVIDSON? HERE.

MR. BAKER.

HERE.

MR. CAMPBELL.

MRS. BERG.

MR. AKINS.

PRESENT? MR. LOONEY? HERE, MRS. KITCHEN.

MR. WEBB NELSON.

MAYOR GORE HERE.

SO WE DO HAVE, UH, THREE SHORT TONIGHT.

UM, SO, UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM THOUGH.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE REASONS THAT, UH, THOSE FOLKS WEREN'T AVAILABLE TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S WORK SESSION AND EXCUSES AREN'T NECESSARY.

UM, THEY, THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, PREFER THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT, UH, THE REASONS WERE JENNIFER, THEY COULDN'T BE HERE.

SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL GET MOVING FORWARD.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE

[2. Approval Of Minutes]

APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

AND ITEM TWO A IS ONE SET OF MINUTES FROM AUGUST 5TH, 2024.

UH, AS USUAL, THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO EVERYONE.

SO IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, UH, SPEAK.

NOW, SEEING NONE, THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

AND NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR TOPICS OF DISCUSSION, WHICH IS OUR NUMBER THREE.

AND WE'LL START

[ City Manager Report]

WITH JOHN AND OUR CITY MAYORS REPORT.

YEAH.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, COUPLE THINGS HERE AS WE GET STARTED.

FIRST, IF YOU'LL, UH, DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FRONT ROW, WE ARE, UH, IN THE PRESENCE OF THE, UH, NEW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ALEX HARRIS.

SO HE IS, THIS IS HIS FIRST MEETING.

UM, WE DO HAVE, I KNOW IT WAS SENT OUT, BUT WE DO HAVE A MEET AND GREET NEXT, UH, MONDAY, UH, BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING.

SO JUST, UM, BE AWARE THAT'LL START AT FIVE TO SIX O'CLOCK TO MEET ME AND ALEX AND AARON AND YEP.

KIND OF DISCUSS A FEW THINGS.

SO, PERFECT.

UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD REAL QUICK, UH, JUST A FEW THINGS FROM THIS WEEK.

UM, THE AQUATIC SEASON IS WINDING DOWN, SO I THOUGHT IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO JUST GIVE SOME, SOME STATS FROM, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE YMCA AND WHAT THEY DO FOR US.

SO, A COUPLE THINGS.

UH, THE COMMUNITY CENTER RENTALS, UM, UH, IS RUN THROUGH THEM.

THEY SCHEDULE THINGS.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 199, UH, RENTALS, UM, AT THAT YEAR TO DATE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THAT, UH, FACILITY USED, UH, QUITE REGULARLY.

THE SHE SHELTER RENTALS YEAR TO DATE, WE ARE AT 502 SHELTER RENTALS, UM, YEAR TO DATE.

SO PEOPLE ARE IN THE PARKS, THEY'RE USING THE SHELTERS, UM, THEY'RE RENTING THE SPACES.

UM, AND THEN JUST AS THE AQUATIC CENTER WINDS DOWN, WE DO HAVE, WE'VE GOT THE FINAL TWO WEEKENDS THIS WEEKEND, AND THEN IT'LL CLOSE NEXT WEEKEND.

UM, LABOR DAY ON LABOR DAY, BUT, UH, TOTAL VISITORS TO DATE IS 35,654.

SO THOSE ARE OUR STATS, UM, FROM THE YMCA, UM, ENGINEERING.

COUPLE UPDATES ON THIS.

UM, I KNOW IT COMES UP FREQUENTLY, BUT WE ARE FINALIZING AND, AND, AND ENTERING THE LAST PHASE OF THE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT FOR THIS YEAR.

UM, SO PAVING, UM, IS SET TO BEGIN, UM, IN A COUPLE WEEKS, MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER.

UM, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE, WE ARE GONNA PAVE 22 STREETS, INCLUDING ROY PIKE.

SO TOTAL OF ABOUT FIVE, UH, LANE MILES OF, OF ROADWAYS GONNA START AND GET REPAVED.

SO, UM, SOME EVENT NOTICES.

UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, BITES IN THE HEIGHT THIS WEEKEND.

IT'LL BE AT, UM, THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER.

IT'LL START 1130, RUN TILL EIGHT O'CLOCK.

UH, AS PART OF THAT EVENT, WE'VE GOT THE CAR SHOW FROM TWO TO EIGHT, AND THEN RIGHT AFTER IT CONCLUDES AT EIGHT 15, WE'RE GONNA DO THE MOVIE UP THERE.

IT'S THE WIZARD OF OZ.

UM, IT IS A BUSY WEEKEND.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME THINGS AT THE ACO BURGER.

UM, THIS WEEKEND WE'VE GOT, UH, FARMER'S MARKET FROM 10 TO TWO, AND THEN OUR SUMMER CONCERT SERIES IS THERE THAT EVENING FROM SIX TO NINE.

SO WE DO HAVE, UM, STILL SIGNUPS FOR THE COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE.

I GOT A COUPLE EMAILS ABOUT THIS THIS WEEK, SO I THOUGHT I'D BRING IT UP.

UM, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE, THE DEADLINE FOR THAT IS SEPTEMBER 9TH.

UM, WE'LL, WE'LL POST THE LIST AFTER THAT, BUT, UM, TO GET ON THE LIST, YOU HAVE TO, UH, GET YOUR STUFF INTO SARAH BEFORE THE NINTH.

SO, AND LASTLY, I HOPE WE'RE DONE WITH THIS SOON, BUT HYDRO FLUSHING IS CONTINUING.

UM, WE ARE GOING FROM THE COUNTY LINE UP TO CARRIAGE TRAILS, UM, THIS WEEK.

UM, SO, UM, THAT'LL CONTINUE AS WE GO FORWARD.

AND WE'RE, WE ARE ALMOST DONE WITH THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS? HEY, SEAN, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING FOR JOHN? YES, KATE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JOHN, CAN YOU TELL EVERYBODY WHY WE'RE PAVING PART OF LONG FOR, UM, IT'S LONGFORD FROM HARVILLE UP TO ABOUT FIVE MORE WHY WE'RE PAVING IT? YEAH.

LIKE, LIKE THEY LOOK LIKE THERE'S WATER BREAKS.

LIKE THERE WERE REPAIRED ON THE LINES.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT? RUSS CAN.

SORRY.

YOUR QUESTION IS, WHY ARE WE PAVING LONG? ARE WE, ARE WE FIXING JUST THE PIPES OR ARE WE GONNA PAVE THAT SECTION AFTER, SINCE THE PAST WE'RE PAVING.

I THINK HOPEFULLY ALL OF THE STREETS THAT WE PUT WATER MAIN IN THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO THAT MAY GO TOO LONG.

AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT AND DO THOSE LATER.

BUT

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THAT WOULD BE JUST BE, UH, HARTWICK AND, UH, POSSIBLY, UM, BURY THINK IT IS, BUT THOSE WEREN'T BRAKES.

THOSE WERE ALL JUST REPAIRS.

RIGHT.

THOSE, THOSE, UH, YEAH, THOSE ARE REPLACEMENTS.

YEAH.

SO JUST REPLACEMENT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, DON? YEAH.

UH, JOHN, I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU, THEY FLUSHED MY HYDRANT THIS MORNING.

YEAH.

AND, UM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT THERE WAS THERE FROM THE CITY, UM, FROM THE WATER COMPANY DOING THE FLUSHING, UH, OF COURSE MY WIFE HAD TO GO OUT AND ASK WHAT WAS GOING ON, UH, WAS REALLY EXCEPTIONAL AS FAR AS HIS PROFESSIONALISM.

TOLD HER WHAT TO EXPECT, HOW TO RUN HER COLD WATER TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOTHING GOING ON.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT, UH, UH, DUDE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE SHE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT HE WAS DOING OUT THERE, FLUSHING HER HYDRANTS.

I'LL LET GARY KNOW.

HE'LL BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

JUST LIKE TO SAY WELCOME TO ALEX.

SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD, AND WE WILL GONNA HAVE A, AS JOHN SAID, A MUCH MORE FORMAL INTRODUCTION, UH, TO THE NEW TEAM ON MONDAY.

BUT CERTAINLY, UH, WELCOME, WELCOME TO THE TEAM.

WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

OKAY.

NEXT IS ITEM THREE B,

[ Board Of Zoning Appeals Update]

WHICH IS OUR BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS UPDATE.

SO, UH, WE HAVE EVA NEWBY HERE TONIGHT, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, AND, UM, SHE'S GONNA BE PROVIDING US AN UPDATE ON, UH, BZA.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

HOW ARE YOU? EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL? UM, TONY SAID, MY NAME IS EVA NEWBIE AND I HAVE BEEN SITTING ON COUNCIL ON COMMISSION SINCE 1997, SO I WON'T SAY I'M AN EXPERT, BUT I, I'VE SIT ON THESE BOARDS LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN WORKING.

SO I'M GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON FROM AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, OF 2023 UNTIL PRESENT OF AUGUST 20, 20, 24.

IN THE LAST YEAR, WE HAVE RECEIVED 13 CASES.

A LOT OF THE SEVEN OF THE CASES, MAINLY WERE ABOUT PUTTING SHEDS AND STRUCTURES IN THEIR YARDS WITHOUT COMING AND GETTING A PERMIT.

THEY WAS DOING IT BEFORE THE FACT AND AFTER THE FACT, THEY WANT TO COME AND GET A REPRE.

UM, ONE, UH, WE HAD WAS THE BUILDING HEIGHT.

ANOTHER WE HAD ON, IT WAS ON SHOOK ROAD THAT THE GENTLEMAN WANTED TO ADD ADDITIONAL HOUSING BECAUSE HE HAD A LARGE LOT AND BECAUSE OF HIS PARENTS GETTING OLD, HE WANTED TO GET THEM CLOSE BY.

SO THAT WAS, AND THEN WE HAD THREE, FOUR PROJECTIONS FOR PRIMARY FOR PATIO COVERS.

ALL THOSE WERE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.

WE HAD ONE THAT WE DID NOT APPROVE.

IT WAS A CA FOR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT'S ON, UM, BRANT PIPE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE MARATHON AND BRANT, THERE WAS A, THE GENTLEMAN WANTED TO, UM, CREATE SEVERAL PARKING SPACES.

HE WAS, HE WAS TAKING THAT BUILDING, HE WAS GOING TO ADD LIKE A BEAUTY SHOP AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.

AND IF WE LOOKED AT THE, UH, OHIO VEHICLES, UH, RULES, WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HE WAS GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET THAT AREA RE ZONE.

SO WE DID NOT APPROVE THAT.

SO THAT WAS DENIED OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WENT ON WITH THE ZONE, WITH THE BOARD.

UM, WE HAD TRAINING IN APRIL WITH, UH, WENDY MOLER FROM THE COMPRESS, UM, POINT PLANNING, WHICH IS VERY GOOD.

UM, IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT ALL BOARDS YEARLY, UH, RECEIVED SOME TYPE OF TRAINING BECAUSE WE FOUND, WELL, I JUST SAID, I FOUND THE TWO BOARDS THAT I HAVE SET ON THAT A LOT OF TIMES WE GET CITIZENS NOT TO PUT ANY CITIZEN DOWN, THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH ROBERT RULES OF ORDER AND OTHER THINGS.

SO TO BE, WE WANT, UM, CITIZENS, YOU ALL WANT CITIZENS TO BE INVOLVED WITHIN THE CITY.

SO IT'S, IT'S RECOMMENDED OR SUGGESTED THAT TO GET PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND WANT TO SERVE VOLUNTARILY SERVE THAT THEY RECEIVE THE PROPER TRAINING TO EXECUTE, UH, THE OHIO REVISED CODE IN HUBER HEIGHTS AND OTHER THINGS.

AND I THINK YOU'LL GET MORE INDIVIDUALS TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON BOARDS, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME THEY'RE VERY HESITANT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SPEC AND THEY'RE SCARED ON, THEY'RE AFRAID ON THAT.

BUT I REC, I PERSONALLY RECOMMEND THAT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND DO TRAINING EVERY YEAR, UM, THAT'S GONNA HELP YOU ALL DO THE JOB THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE VOTED FOR YOU ALL TO DO THROUGH, THROUGH THE BOARDS BY THEM KNOWING.

AND THAT'LL BE LESS EDUC, LESS HEADACHE ON YOU ALL BECAUSE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF SOME STUFF.

YEAR BEFORE LAST, WE HAD A LOT OF UNNECESSARY, UH, PEOPLE COMING AND ANGRY, YOU KNOW, SOME THREATEN BECAUSE PEOPLE, THEY GO

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BY WHAT THEY HEAR.

SO IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF, IF, IF YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, OH YEAH MAN, YOU COULD PUT UP THIS SHED AND THEY PUT IT UP, THEN THEY COME TO US AND WE TELL THEM NO.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

THEY, THEY GET ANGRY.

I THINK A COUPLE OF 'EM KIND OF THREATENED ME, DIDN'T THEY? WELL, I WASN'T SCARED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, I TOLD 'EM TO COME ON.

BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S BETTER THE COMMISSION, THE STAFF THAT, UH, OVERSEES THAT HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF EDUCATING OKAY.

AND ASKING QUESTIONS, WE ARE FULLY FULL.

UM, WE GOT EVERYBODY ON OUR BOARD.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

SO THAT IS IT.

WE ARE JUST TRYING TO KEEP HUBERT AND HOLD HUBERT ACCOUNTABLE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THANKS, STEVE.

I KNOW, UM, I REMEMBER IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN, WHEN YOU WERE HERE, WELL, NUMBER ONE, SO YEAH, WE APPRECIATE HOW LONG YOU'VE, YOU'VE SERVED DIFFERENT BOARDS.

MM-HMM.

ON, ON THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR WORK.

UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU WERE HERE LAST TIME, WE TALKED ABOUT THERE'S A LOT OF THE SAME ISSUES, A LOT OF JUST SHEDS AND PEOPLE BUILDING STRUCTURES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILT FIRST AND, AND KINDA THE WHOLE, UH, DO IT AND THEN ASK FOR PERMISSION LATER KIND OF THING IS, IS IT SEEMED LIKE WHAT WAS HAPPENING A LOT LAST TIME.

SO I GUESS ON ONE HAND WE COULD BE FORTUNATE THAT THAT IS, UH, THE MAIN THING THAT'S HAPPENING.

IT'S NOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER, UH, ZONING ISSUES THAT THE BOARD IS DEALING WITH, BUT, UM, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S, UH, SIMILAR TO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD.

THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS WHERE PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED AND THEY'RE ANGRY AND YOU'RE NOT DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE, UH, AT THEIR BEST.

SO I KNOW THAT THAT CAN BE TOUCHY SOMETIMES.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU AND, AND THE BOARD HAS DONE, AND THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU PUT INTO STUDY THESE CASES AND, AND TRYING TO RELAY THOSE MESSAGES TO OUR RESIDENTS.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.

WELL, ONE THING I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THINGS IN ALL THE COMMUNITIES.

UM, AND I KNOW I HAVE GOOD PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL IN HU UH, TROTWOOD.

THEY'RE TRYING TO SET UP A BEZ BOARD AND SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES.

SO WE KIND OF TALK BECAUSE REALLY HU UH, HUBERT IS LIKE A, THE TEACHER OF SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE BOARDS THAT THE OTHER CITIES AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY ARE TRYING TO SET UP.

SO THAT'S A PLUS FOR HUBERT.

YOU KNOW, THAT THEY LOOKING AT HUBERT AS THE GUIDELINE, AS THE BLUEPRINT TO START THEIR BOARD.

'CAUSE I THINK TROTWOOD IS PROBABLY GONNA START IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

THEY WANT TO HAVE A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.

EVEN THE CITY OF DAYTON IS THINKING ABOUT GOING BACK.

'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE REALLY ANY GUIDELINES.

RIGHT? EVEN ESPECIALLY WITH PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.

MM-HMM, OKAY WITH THE GRASS AND ALL OF THAT.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINES.

SOME OF THE CITIES DON'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINES.

SO THEY LOOKING AT HUBERT, 'CAUSE HUBERT HAS, HAS HAD THE LONG, AS FAR AS OTHER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MOST OF THE STUFF COME WITH THE TERRITORY.

SO WHEN WE TAKE THAT OATH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE THAT'S ANGRY BECAUSE LIKE I TELL 'EM, IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT BURGER KING.

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT YOUR WAY.

IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL.

, IT'S ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY OF HUBBERT HEIGHTS.

THAT'S HOW WE DO IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LONG SERVICE TO THE CITY PROBLEM.

APPRECIATE IT.

ANYONE HAVE ANY, HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? WE, I I WANT TO THANK EVA TOO 'CAUSE SHE'S ONE OF OUR STEADFAST ANNUAL VOLUNTEERS FOR THE COMMUNITY SHREDDING EVENTS.

SHE'S OUT THERE HELPING US LUG THE BOXES AND UH, WELL TONY, I DO IT BECAUSE YOU AND MY DAUGHTER CAROL HIGH SCHOOL PEOPLE , THE ONLY REASON I DO IT 'CAUSE IT'S YOU GO PATRIOTS.

RIGHT? OKAY.

NO, I DO IT.

'CAUSE I WANT TO EXAMPLE.

'CAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO WANT TO COME TO HUBERT AND A LOT OF THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH I HAVE TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALSO, TONY, A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WITHIN OUTSIDE OF HUBERT, UH, HAS STARTED COMING.

THEY DIDN'T REALIZE HUBERT HAD EXTENDED THAT INVITATION THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN OF HUBERT TO COME AND GET SHREDDING.

SO I WANNA PERSONALLY THANK YOU.

I HAVE SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEY COULD COME FROM DAYTON OTHER PLACES TO GET THEIR SHREDDING.

SO FROM NO ORGANIZATIONS, EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT THE PRESIDENT OF SOME OF THEM ORGANIZATIONS, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR WENDY MUELLER COMPASS POINT PLANNING FROM EXTENDING THAT TO THEM.

BECAUSE A LOT OF CITIZENS, I THINK CENTERVILLE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT EXTENDS THAT, UM, SHREDDING THINGS.

SO WE JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING OTHER PEOPLE TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND GET THEIR SHREDDING DONE.

AND, UM, I GUESS IN OCTOBER WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN.

UH, NOW, UH, WE'LL HAVE ONE IN THE SPRING FOR STYROFOAM RECYCLING.

OH YEAH, THAT'S, THAT WAS GONE.

IT WAS BACK IN JULY FOR THE SHRED.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE

[ Cloud Storage Subscription Renewal - Police Division]

C, WHICH IS THE CLOUD STORAGE SUBSCRIPTION RENEWAL FOR OUR POLICE DIVISION.

CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, LAST YEAR, LATE LAST YEAR, THE, DURING THE CYBER ATTACK, THE CYBER TEAM DECIDED THAT IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND THE SAFEST AND BEST WAY TO STORE OUR IN-CAR AND OUR BODY CAM FOOTAGE, UH, IN THE CLOUD.

SO THE EMERGENCY LEGISLATION FUNDING THAT WAS PASSED BACK IN 2023

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PAID FOR THAT FIRST YEAR TO GET EVERYTHING INTO THE CLOUD.

AND NOW WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU NOW IS THE ABILITY FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR TWO THROUGH FIVE.

OKAY.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF.

OKAY.

SO ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO OUR MEETING ON MONDAY? OKAY.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ Curb Ramp Replacement - Various Locations - Award Contract]

3D, WHICH IS CURB RAMP REPLACEMENT AT DIFFERENT VARIOUS LOCATIONS, UH, IN THE CITY AND AWARDING THAT CONTRACT.

RU UH, YES, THIS, UH, LEGISLATION WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR THE INSTALLATION OR REPLACEMENT OF HANDICAP RAMPS.

UH, A MAP WE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET SHOWS, UH, LOCATION OF 27 DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE THE RAMPS DUE TO AGE OR NON-COMPLIANCE WITH A DA STANDARDS.

UH, WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT.

UH, AND WE DID HAVE THE BID TABULATION IN YOUR PACKET TOO.

UH, THE TWO BIDDERS WERE C AND W TREE SERVICES, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A DIVISION OF MULTITASK CONSTRUCTION WHO DOES OUR CURVED AND SIDEWALK PROGRAM THIS YEAR.

UM, AT $73,510 AND, AND 45 CALENDAR DAYS TO COMPLETE.

AND BEL GRAY INCORPORATED AT $259,320 WITH 275 CALENDAR DAYS TO COMPLETE.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO AWARD THIS PROJECT TWO C AND W TREE SERVICES WITH A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $90,000.

UM, THIS PROJECT WE DID RECEIVE 60,000 IN GRANT FUNDING FROM, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.

THIS IS FROM LATE LAST YEAR.

UH, AND THIS MONEY WILL BE USED TO HELP FUND MOST OF THIS WORK AND THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE GAS TAX FUND AND TRUST.

ANY QUESTIONS? NONE.

UH, RUSS, UM, HOW MANY OF THESE ARE LEFT AFTER THIS PROJECT? OR DO YOU HAVE A GUESSTIMATE OF STUFF? HOW MANY IN THE CITY ARE LEFT? HOW MANY IN THE CITY? DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S A LOT.

THERE'S PRETTY MANY LEFT THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY CAP RAMPS.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO 'EM AS WE DO, UH, UH, PAVING PROGRAM AND CURB PROGRAM.

WE, WE HIT EVERY INTERSECTION AND DO THE CURB RAMPS.

MM-HMM.

AT THAT POINT.

SO MOST, I MEAN, SOUTH OF TOWN IS WHERE SOME OF 'EM ARE LEFT.

YEAH.

WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO 'EM YET.

RIGHT.

BUT, WE'LL, THANK YOU SIR.

FRED.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, JUST THE QUESTION, RUSS, YOU, YOU MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, BUT MAYBE THERE'S OTHER EXPERIENCE IN THE ROOM.

WHAT WOULD CAUSE THIS BIG DISPARITY IN THESE NUMBERS OF 259 AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS 73,000.

THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IF THEY'RE BOTH LOOKING AT THE SAME SCOPE OF WORK, RIGHT? OH YEAH.

UH, THE SECOND CONTRACTOR PROBABLY REALLY DIDN'T NEED THE WORK AND HE JUST PUT A NUMBER IN THERE HOPING TO GET, GET LUCKY.

YEAH.

IF NOBODY ELSE BID ON IT, THEN IT'S POSSIBLE WE WOULD'VE TAKEN THEM.

BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU.

NOPE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? I WOULD SAY, I THINK, UH, FRED, OVER THE YEARS AT LEAST WHAT I'VE NOTICED IS THAT IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING WHEN SOMEONE THROWS A BID OUT LIKE THAT.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY REALLY JUST, THEY DON'T WANT THE WORK, UH, OR DON'T NEED THE WORK.

BUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO US AT THAT KIND OF PRICE, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD TAKE IT .

SO I THINK SOMETIMES WE, WE, WE, WE'VE SEEN SOME STUFF LIKE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE THERE'S A REALLY BIG DISPARITY IN THE NUMBERS.

OKAY.

SO OBJECTIONS, WE'LL SEE THAT, UH, ON MONDAY.

NEXT IS ITEM THREE

[ Well PW-7 Installation - Award Contract]

E, WHICH IS THE, WELL, UH, PW SEVEN INSTALLATION AND AWARDING THAT CONTRACT RU YEAH.

THIS IS TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO MOODY'S OF DAYTON AND THIS IS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW, UH, MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY.

WELL, UH, THIS WOULD BE NUMBER, WELL NUMBER SEVEN AT OUR UH, RIP WRAP ROAD WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SIX WELLS CURRENTLY IN USE.

ONE, UH, WAS A NON-PRODUCING WELL THAT WE ELIMINATED A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO WITH THIS WE'LL HAVE SIX GOOD WELLS THAT, UH, TO USE AFTER, AFTER THIS ONE'S COMPLETED.

UH, THE MAP OF THE LOCATION IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

IT'S NEAR THE ONE WE DID LAST YEAR OR THREE YEARS AGO, SORRY.

UM, IT'S OUT IN THE AREA THAT WE JUST, UH, PURCHASED THE A HUNDRED ACRES OUT THERE FOR THE WELL FIELD EXPANSION.

UH, THIS WORK WILL BE INCLUDE DRILLING THE WELL AND ESTABLISHING GROUNDWATER MONITORING WELLS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE EPA.

AND UH, THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

UM, THE, ONCE THEY DRILL THE, WELL, THE OUTCOME OR THE RESULTS OF THIS DRILLING THIS WELL WILL BE USED TO SIZE THE PUMPS AND THE MOTORS NEEDED AT THE WELL.

AND THAT'S THE SECOND PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

AND THAT SECOND PHASE ALSO INCLUDES INSTALLATION OF, UH, NEW WATER MAIN TO THAT.

WELL, UM, THERE WERE THREE BIDDERS UH, FOR THIS PROJECT.

UH, MOODY'S WAS LOW AT 433602ND LOW BIDDER WAS LANE GRANITE AT ROUGHLY 461,000.

AND THE THIRD WAS NATIONAL WATER SERVICES AT 478,000.

UH, WE DO HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED OF 525,000.

UH, THAT IS ABOUT 20% HIGHER THAN THE BID AMOUNT.

TYPICALLY WE USE ABOUT 10%,

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BUT THAT IS DUE TO SOME UNKNOWN FACTORS, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, THE WELL DEPTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT HOW DEEP THEY HAVE TO GO.

AND IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE HIGHER COST IF THEY HAVE TO GO DEEPER.

UM, UH, FUNDING FOR THIS WILL BE OUR WATER FUND, BUT WE DO HAVE A GRANT MONEY OF 400,000 THAT WE RECEIVED ACTUALLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT WILL PAY FOR OVER HALF OF THE PROJECT.

OKAY.

AND WHAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE? UH, THEY HAVE TO, IT'LL BE ABOUT THREE MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? YES.

ALRIGHT.

HAVE WE USED THESE CONTRACTORS BEFORE FOR THIS? UH, WE HAVE USED ALL THREE OF THESE BEFORE, UH, AT THE WELL FIELD.

OKAY.

FOR, MAINLY FOR CLEANING WELLS.

OKAY.

SO, YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE HERE.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, SCOTT.

HEY RUSS.

DO WE MONITOR ALL OF OUR WELLS FOR CONTAMINANTS? YES.

THEY HAVE TO BE MONITORED ALL THE TIME AND I THINK, UH, THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO EPAI THINK MONTHLY ON ALL OF, ALL OF THE YEAH.

'CAUSE I KNOW DAYTON MONITORS YOU REP RAP ROAD AND WHITENER FORD AND EVERYTHING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

OKAY.

THANKS SCOTT.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, DON.

SO, UH, WHEN WILL THE SECOND PHASE, UM, UH, BE BEFORE US ROSS? UH, IT SHOULD BE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND THEN THE COMPLETION OF THE WELL WILL BE, UH, PROBABLY IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.

RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL SEE THIS ON MONDAY.

NEXT IS ITEM THREE F, WHICH

[ County Assessments Authorization - Sidewalk/Lighting/Grass And Weeds/Property Maintenance]

IS THE COUNTY ASSESSMENTS AUTHORIZATION FOR SIDEWALK LIGHTING, GRASS AND WEEDS AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE COUNCIL.

HEY, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

MY FIRST ONE.

GOOD? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO IT'S THIS TIME OF YEAR THAT, UH, THE COUNTY REQUIRES US, UH, TO PASS LEGISLATION FOR THE ASSESSMENT.

UM, AND THIS INCLUDES, UH, SIDEWALK LIGHTING, GRASS AND WEEDS AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.

UM, WE ARE ASKING THAT IT BE PASSED AS, UM, EMERGENCY AND WAIVE THE SECOND READING.

'CAUSE THIS IS OUR, THE MONDAY'S MEETING WILL BE OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE COUNTY'S TIMELINE TO GET THE ASSESSMENTS ON THERE.

UH, THIS WILL GO ON THE 2024 DUPLICATE PAYABLE IN 2025.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF YOU HERE, BUT MEMBER IT DOES TAKE SIX, UH, VOTES TO WAIVE SECOND READING AND SIX VOTES TO ADOPT ANY LEGISLATION AS AN EMERGENCY.

SO, OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THIS ON XM 3G,

[ Richard F. Shomper Governance Center Project - Phase 2 - Solicit Bids]

WHICH IS THE RICHARD F SCHAPER GOVERNANCE CENTER PROJECT PHASE TWO AND SOLICITING BIDS.

AND I SAY IT'S NICE TO SEE THE NAME OF THAT PROJECT, UH, ON AN AGENDA RATHER THAN JUST THE BUILDING.

.

YES.

SO, UH, THIS IS PHASE TWO, WHICH IS REALLY THE INTERNAL BUILD OUT OF THE GOVERNANCE CENTER.

SO PHASE ONE IS THE, THE EXTERIOR SHELL, WHICH, UM, WE HAD OUR PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING, UH, LAST WEEK AND I EXPECT SITE MOBILIZATION IN SEPTEMBER.

UH, WE WILL BID, UH, IF, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE WILL BID PHASE TWO IN SEPTEMBER, HOPEFULLY AWARD IN OCTOBER.

WITH THE GOAL BEING THAT BOTH PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ARE COMPLETED SIMULTANEOUSLY, UH, THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.

SO OUR ARCHITECT'S ESTIMATE FOR PHASE TWO IS APPROXIMATELY 2.5 MILLION, WHICH COMBINED WITH PHASE ONE DOES KEEP US UNDER BUDGET.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TILL MONDAY? ALRIGHT, WE'LL SEE YOU THAT MONDAY.

AND NEXT IS ITEM THREE

[ Land Purchase - Yard Waste Site Access Road]

H, WHICH IS LAND PURCHASE FOR THE YARD, WAY SITE ACCESS ROAD.

YES.

SO, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING, UH, OR AUTHORIZING US TO NEGOTIATE AND PURCHASE, UM, AN ACCESS STRIP RIGHT OFF OF BRIDGEWATER ROAD.

UH, WE'VE NEGOTIATED THE PURCHASE, UH, SO IT'D BE ABOUT $45,000, WHICH WOULD GIVE US ACCESS, UH, FROM BRIDGEWATER TO OUR NEW YARD WASTE SITE.

UH, THAT IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF HERE.

UH, WE LOOKED AT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

ONE GOING OFF OF BRIDGEWATER, ONE GOING OFF OF RIPRAP ROAD.

UM, THIS IS THE BETTER OPTION FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE OUR RESIDENCE.

IT'S CLEANER, IT'S SAFER, IT DOESN'T FLOOD.

IT'S ALSO, UH, A SHORTER PATH TO THE YARD WASTE SITE THROUGH BRIDGEWATER.

OKAY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SCOTT, WHAT'S THE TOTAL LAND FOR $45,000? YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ROUGHLY UM, ABOUT $90,000 TOTAL PER ACRE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN BUYING AND SELLING LAND FOR.

OKAY.

DEVELOPED LAND.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL GO.

AND NEXT IS ITEM THREE

[ Donation - Huber Heights City Schools Military Service Wall Of Honor]

I, WHICH IS A DONATION

[00:25:01]

FOR THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOL'S MILITARY SERVICE, WALL OF HONOR OBJECT THAT, OKAY.

UM, SO THE CITY WAS APPROACHED BY, UM, HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS ABOUT, UH, HOW WE COULD SUPPORT THE, UH, PLANNED MILITARY SERVICE WALL OF HONOR AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE WHERE THEY WANT TO HAVE A WALL OF HONOR THAT WILL ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, ALUMNI AND, UM, GRADUATES OF WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, WHO SERVED IN THE MILITARY, UM, IN, IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES.

UM, I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH MAYOR GORE AS WELL AS WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY'S MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION AND THERE WAS A CONSENSUS THAT WE WANTED TO DO WHAT WE COULD TO SUPPORT, UH, THIS EFFORT.

UM, SO USING FUNDS FROM, UH, THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION AND, AND SUPPORTED BY SOME OTHER FUNDS, UM, THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A DONATION OF $13,000 TO THIS PROJECT.

UM, THAT WAS LARGELY THE FUNDRAISING GOAL THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, TO BUILD THE WALL AND THEN HAVE SOME FUNDS TO SUSTAIN THE UPDATES TO THE WALL AS AS TIME GOES ON.

UM, SO, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THAT DONATION BY RESOLUTION, UH, TO THE SCHOOLS.

AND, UM, IF APPROVED THEN THE PLAN WOULD BE ON MONDAY AT THE COUNCIL MEETING TO HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION OF THE CHECK.

AND, UM, WE GOT A BIG CARDBOARD CHECK AS WELL TO PRESENT, UM, IN A CEREMONY THAT WE WOULD DO IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UH, COUNCIL AND THE MIL MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION ON MONDAY.

DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY REPRESENTED FROM THE SCHOOLS THAT WILL BE TOGETHER? YEAH, THEY'RE, UH, JEN DAVIS I THINK IS GOING TO BE HERE AND MAYBE SOME OTHERS.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

DIDN'T THINK SO.

ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE THIS ON TO TUESDAY AS WELL.

MY NEXT IS ITEM THREE J, WHICH

[ Twentieth Amendment - Amended And Restated Development Agreement - DEC Land Co. I, LLC - (Carriage Trails I)]

IS THE 20TH AMENDMENT, THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN DECK LAND COMPANY LLC, WHICH IS CARE SHOWS ONE AND THE CITY HERE.

YEAH.

SO THIS IS JUST THE SECOND READING, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS.

SO I'M HERE JUST TO ANSWER ANY, UH, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UH, ABOUT THIS, UM, AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT THAN OUR TYPICAL AMENDMENTS.

AND, AND, UH, I WAS TOLD MRS. KITCHEN HAD REQUESTED THAT THIS BE DISCUSSED FURTHER AT THE WORK SESSION.

UM, YEAH, I KNOW SHE HAD REACHED OUT, SHE HAD REACHED OUT, UH, TO ME WITH SOME QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING, SO I THINK THE, THIS IS BASICALLY JUST, SO FOR ANYONE LISTENING IS THE, THE RESTATE AGREEMENT UNDER THE CARE TRAILS, ONE ORIGINAL TIF AGREEMENT, THERE IS A BASICALLY A ONE THIRD, TWO THIRD SPLIT OF, OF THAT TIF REVENUE THAT COMES OUT OF CARRIAGE TRAILS.

SO THAT REVENUE IS, UM, IS MEANT TO REIMBURSE THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER FOR MONEY THEY HAVE ALREADY SPENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND.

SO THIS ISN'T, NUMBER ONE, THIS ISN'T MONEY REGARDLESS WHETHER IT IS ONE THIRD OR IT'S TWO THIRDS OF THE REMAINING REVENUE, IT ISN'T MONEY THAT IS JUST BEING HANDED OVER TO THEM FOR THEM TO YOU TO GO ON VACATION WITH.

THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT OF FUNDS THEY HAVE ALREADY SPENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS IN THE GROUND THAT THE CITY NOW OWNS AND MAINTAINS TAKES CARE OF.

SO, UH, SO IT, IT IS THAT THIS AGREEMENT, UH, CHANGES WHAT THAT FEE STRUCTURE OR THE FUND STRUCTURE WAS PRIOR TO THIS AGREEMENT.

THE CITY WOULD GET ONE THIRD OF THAT REMAINING TIF REVENUE AND THE DEVELOPER DECK WOULD GET TWO THIRDS OF THAT REVENUE.

THIS AGREEMENT, UH, SWITCHES THAT ARRANGEMENT AROUND TO WHERE THE DEVELOPER DECK ONLY GETS ONE THIRD OF THE REMAINING REVENUE TO REIMBURSE THEM OF THE COST OF THE FUNDS THAT THEY HAVE PUT IN THE GROUND ALREADY.

AND NOW THE CITY GETS TO RETAIN TWO THIRDS OF THAT MONEY, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $25 MILLION DIFFERENCE FROM, UH, ABOUT A $31 MILLION TOTAL REVENUE DOWN TO THE $6 MILLION THAT WE SEE HERE IN THIS LEGISLATION.

SO, UH, THAT IS QUITE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN NEGOTIATED FUNDS AND THAT IS WHAT THIS AGREEMENT IS.

SO IT'S JUST A, A, A REFUNDING OF MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT BY THE DEVELOPER ON INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN THE GROUND THAT THE CITY NOW MAINTAINS AND OWNS.

AND IT'S SWITCHING IT FROM THE DEVELOPER RECEIVING TWO THIRDS AND THE CITY RECEIVING A THIRD TO NOW THE DEVELOPER ONLY RECEIVING ONE THIRD IN THE CITY RETAINING TWO THIRDS OF THAT REVENUE OVER THE REMAINDER OF THE 11 TO 12 YEARS OF THAT TIFF AGREEMENT.

SO I, I HOPE I'VE STATED THAT IN FACTUAL AND SIMPLISTIC ENOUGH TERMS TO, FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND .

YEAH, NO, THE DISCOUNT THAT THE DEVELOPER IS, IS OFFERING IS SUBSTANTIAL.

YES.

UH, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS MONEY WOULD BE OWED TO THE DEVELOPER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

YES.

IN THIS CASE, THE WAY THE AGREEMENT IS AMENDED, UH,

[00:30:01]

WE COME OUT AS THE CITY, UH, IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE.

YES.

PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR RELATED TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS.

OKAY.

SO IF THERE ARE, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SCOTT, I WANNA THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF MY POINTS.

UH, CITIZENS WERE VERY, YOU KNOW, CONFUSED ABOUT THIS SITUATION AND HANDING OUT OVER MONEY, SO THANKS FOR DESCRIBING THAT A WHOLE LOT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

YEAH, I KNOW THERE ARE, UM, ANYTIME, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER, THERE'S ALWAYS QUESTIONS.

PEOPLE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, DON'T UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE WAY THESE THINGS WORK AND, AND HOW THIS IS DONE, BUT CERTAINLY WITH WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THIS AGREEMENT, UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS REALLY, I'LL JUST SAY IT, TAKEN A HAIRCUT ON REVENUE THAT THEY WOULD BE RECEIVING BASED ON WHAT THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS.

SO YES, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A A A $6 MILLION CHECK TO THEM NOW, COMPARE THAT TO THE 25 MILLION OR SO EXTRA THEY WOULD RECEIVE OVER THE COURSE OF THE TIF.

IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE.

AS WE SAID, PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR OF THE CITY COMES OUT IN A MUCH BETTER FINANCIAL POSITION AND THIS AGREEMENT THAN WHAT IT WAS IN THE OLD ONE.

OKAY.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, SO THIS WILL BE FOR A SECOND.

READING.

YES.

THIS, YEAH, WE, THIS HAS HAD ONE READING, SO THIS WILL BE UP FOR THE SECOND READING ON MONDAY, UH, READY TO BE APPROVED AND ADOPTED OR MOTIONS AND ADOPTED ON MONDAY.

ON MONDAY, YES.

OKAY.

AND NEXT IS

[ Liquor Permit #8200121-0005 - Las Piramides - 6290 Chambersburg Road]

ITEM, UH, THREE K, WHICH IS A LIQUOR PERMIT NUMBER 82 0 0 1 21 DASH 0 0 0 5 FOR LOST PYRAMIDS AT 62 90 CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.

TONY, AS THE MAYOR STATED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A LIQUOR PERMIT FOR LAS PYRAMIDS.

UH, IT IS A NEW PERMIT AND, UM, IN ANTICIPATION OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I MIGHT HAVE EXPECTED TONIGHT BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN BEFORE US, UH, BEFORE I DID CONTACT THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL TODAY, UH, TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.

SO, UH, THIS IS A NEW LIQUOR PERMIT AT THE SAME LOCATION, UH, FOR THE SAME RESTAURANT.

UM, WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL IS, UH, THE RESTAURANT IS, UM, ATTEMPTING TO MOVE THEIR EXISTING LIQUOR PERMIT AT THIS SITE TO ANOTHER LOCATION THAT THEY OWN IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY.

AND THEN THIS NEW PERMIT WOULD REPLACE THAT ONE AT THAT LOCATION FOR THEM TO, TO UTILIZE.

UM, I DID ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD YOU COULDN'T HAVE TWO LIQUOR PERMITS AT THE SAME LOCATION.

THEY SAID THAT IS TRUE, THAT EVEN IF THIS ONE WAS APPROVED, THAT IT WOULD NOT BE PROCESSED, UH, THROUGH THE HIGH DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL UNTIL THE OTHER ONE HAD BEEN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSFERRED, UH, TO ITS NEW LOCATION.

OKAY.

SO IT IS, UH, A REQUEST FOR A D FIVE PERMIT, WHICH THE EXISTING ONE IS A D FIVE AS WELL.

SO, UM, IT WOULD JUST BE BASICALLY CHANGING THE PERMIT, UM, NUMBER AND, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD LARGELY REMAIN THE SAME.

BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD NOT BE ACCOMPLISHED UNTIL THE OTHER ONE HAD BEEN TRANSFERRED SUCCESSFULLY.

OKAY.

THANKS TONY.

APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY, LOOK AT THAT.

IT IS NOW 6 36.

OH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WANNA DISCUSS OR ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

AND JUST LIKE THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.