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[ AGENDA ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road August 19, 2024 6:30 P.M. ]
OF THE CITY OF ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION TO ORDER.UM, SARAH, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? YES.
AND THEN, UM, MS. HENRY AND MS. WOOD DID TELL US THAT THEY WOULD BE OUT FOR THIS MEETING, SO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION, UM, TO, UM, ACCEPT THEIR ABSENCE.
I BELIEVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE ABSENCE OF, UM, WHICH ONES?
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN EASIER, LORI, THAN I
UM, THERE'S NO ONE IN CITIZEN COMMENTS, SO, UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OLD BUSINESS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS? BIKES AND HEIGHTS? THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
OR, UM, THE YARD BEAUTIFICATION.
DID EVERYTHING GET SETTLED AND, YES.
SO ARE THEY COMING? THEY CAME TO THE MEETING LAST MONDAY.
AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT I TALKED TO AT CHICK-FIL-A SAID HE WAS GONNA PASS MY INFORMATION ON TO THE GENERAL MANAGER THAT SHE NEVER TOLD ME BACK.
AND WHEN I DELIVERED THE SIGN, SHE WAS NOT THERE.
SO I TALKED TO ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, HE WAS VERY, VERY NICE.
AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT I WAS DOING THERE AND GAVE HIM THE SIGN.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OUT THERE YET OR NOT, BUT I KNOW THE MAYOR'S LINDA'S ON IT.
THE FACT THAT WHEN THEY WERE SHOWING THE VIDEO WAS REALLY FUNNY.
BUT WHEN, UH, LISA WAS THE ONE THAT, UH, GOT THE PERMIT AND WHEN HER HOUSE CAME UP, SHE GOES, THERE, IT'S THERE.
PLANNING FOR FIGHTS IN THE HEIGHTS.
COPY THERE TO MORNING BLOOD DRIVES THAT DAY TOO.
I'VE GOTTA REMEMBER TO DO THAT THOUGH.
AND, UM, CAN I GET A REMINDER OF WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, LIKE THAT DAY? UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH WE HAVE TO DO.
I, I DON'T, THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU.
I'VE NEVER DONE BISON HEIGHTS TO TALK TO SHANNON A LITTLE BIT VIA EMAIL ABOUT THE POPCORN.
UM, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE MOVIE IS, IS THE ONLY THING, AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE MUCH TO DO.
UM, I'LL JUST, I WILL BE AT THE CONCERT THAT EVENING, UM, AT THE EEL BURGER, SO I CAN JUST GIVE SOMEONE THE MOVIE TO GIVE TO OUR SCREEN GUY.
AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE AND THEY'VE SET UP BEFORE AND, UM, THE, THEY ARE GOING TO POP SOME POPCORN GIVEN IN, IN BIG BAGS.
UM, AND I CAN CONNECT SHANNON TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S GONNA DO THAT FOR US SO THEY CAN MEET UP AND GET POPCORN SO THAT, YOU KNOW THE CASE MAD BRUSH BESIDES SHANNON.
UM, SO DO YOU WANT, IF IN LARGE BAGS, IT'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL BAG, SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEPARATE IT.
SO LET THE BAGS YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT BEFORE THE MOVIE.
IF YOU WERE SEEING A NEED WHEN YOU LET ME KNOW ABOUT HUSBAND MUCH COMMUNICATION ABOUT GETTING HER WITH ROSE AND THE POPCORN GUY AND OKAY.
NOW IF WE HAVE OCTOBER, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP IN COSTUME, WHATEVER.
SO WOULD WE WANT TO LET THEM KIND OF PARADE ACROSS THE STAGE OR IN FRONT OF THE STAGE IF THEY SHOW, IF PEOPLE SHOW UP IN COSTUMES ON THE CODE, SOUNDS FINE.
SO FOR THAT, SOMEBODY PROBABLY JUST NEEDS TO GO UP TO THE MOVIE PERSON AND ASK
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FOR THE MIC AND THEN INVITE ANYBODY ON STAGE TO COME BRING THROUGH.THE PASS, IT STILL WOULD BEEN IN FISH BECAUSE IT WAS IN OCTOBER.
SO WE ALWAYS JUST KIND OF DID IT AS OUR HALLOWEEN NIGHT.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WE DRESS UP BUS BACK THIS TIME.
WOULD IT BE IN AUGUST?
WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A, A FASHION TRIP.
BUT I DON'T REALLY THINK THERE'S ANY, 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUESTS COMING.
JUST WHENEVER THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN START THE MEETING.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, YOU KNOW, AT DUSK.
SO IT'S STILL PRETTY LIGHT IN THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S INSIDE NOW.
WELL WE'VE GOT WHAT THIS, THE CREW TRUCK'S IS 1130 WHEN THE, THE FIGHTS AND HEIGHTS OPEN OR IS THAT WHEN THE FOOD TRUCKS BEGIN ARRIVING? I THINK IT'S, THE EVENT STARTED AT 1130.
YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S TRUE.
SO I DON'T HAVE A FILE, BUT ANYBODY THAT HAS TIME MIGHT WANT, THEY MAY NEED SOME HELP WITH ORGANIZING.
IS THE ROW STAFF THAT, UM, THEY TAKE CARE OF.
ANYBODY THAT'S REALLY INTO OLD CARS, UH, WHEN ROB STARTS ORGANIZING THAT JUST HAVE ABOUT ONE 30.
COULD PROBABLY USE SOME HELP WITH PARKING ON THAT.
THE LAST TIME WE HAD IT IN WARM, GOOD WARM WEATHER, BUT CAR SHOWS FILLED UP JUST THE ONE PARKING LOT AT THE ROAD THAT YEAR.
THEY DID IT ON THE LEASE PARKING LOT FILLED UP WITH THE SHOW CARS.
I THINK THEY GET CLOSE TO 600 CARS.
THE ONE OH YEAH, THEY HAVE GOOD WEATHER FIRST WEEKEND IN OCTOBER AND, AND GOOD WEATHER.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR UM, THE BITES AND HEIGHTS? I DON'T THINK SO.
WHAT TIME SHOULD WE BE THERE? SEVEN 30 THAT EARLY.
AND I DID BRING MY PEN, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME.
I, SO I DON'T THINK THEY ADVERTISE IT AROUND EIGHT 30, BUT I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND THOSE.
DID THEY, THAT MENTIONED SOME, I'LL DO JUST SAY DESK MAYBE THAT SEVEN 30.
WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO BAG THE POPCORN.
BUT WAIT, YOU TELL ME THEN I'LL BE THERE WHENEVER YOU I WOULD SAY SEVEN 30 WOULD BE GOOD.
UM, SO THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, UM, THAT WE ARE HELP, UM, JOINING IN ON OR HELPING WITH, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY DOING ANYTHING THAT WE NOT WELL, SHE IS PROBABLY PARADING.
YEAH, BUT WELL, THEY'RE BRINGING SANTA, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT WE'LL HAVE TO GET THE TENT SET UP AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
WELL, I GUESS DIDN'T AND THE TENT, I GUESS.
ARE WE GONNA NEED TWO TENTS THEN? UM, HAVE WE GOT MR. OHIO? IS SHE COMING? FOR SURE.
SO YEAH, MR. SO HYATT'S SUPPOSED TO COME, SO I WOULD SAY WE PROBABLY WANNA DO TWO SEPARATE TENT STAND.
DO WE NEED A TENT FOR HOT CHOCOLATE AND STUFF? AND MAYBE HAVE SOMEBODY ORDER THE FOOD TRUCKS COMING AND DOING THAT.
SO I TALKED TO MESSY MEATBALL.
UM, AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO SELL HOT CHOCOLATE IF WE WANT OR IF WE WANT TO BUY IT.
AND THEN LET THEM GIVE IT OUT.
SO IT'S, HOWEVER YOU GUYS, IF HE WON A FOOD TRUCK THERE LAST YEAR WE HAD A FOOD TRUCK.
UM, IT'S FREE FOR THEM TO COME, BUT, BUT WE DID AND WE DIDN'T DO A HOT CHOCOLATE LAST YEAR.
I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH THEY SOLD, SOLD IT QUARTER, BUT IT WAS, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO.
IT'S SO HARD FOR US TO, AND IF WE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE GOT IN THE BUDGET TO, IF WE CAN BUY LIKE THE FIRST HUNDRED PEOPLE HOT CHOCOLATE OR SOMETHING.
UM, I THINK OUR BUDGET'S GEAR, SO IT'S EVERY DOLLAR WE GO, WE HAVE TO GO UP AND ASK FOR MORE.
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WE ARE, WE, UM, YEAH, UH, IF YOU GUYS WANT, I HAVE A COUPLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BE HAPPY TO, UM, DO COOKIES IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.UM, SO WE NEED TWO TENTS FOR, DO YOU GUYS WANT ANOTHER TENT FOR ARTS COMMUNICATION? OH.
TO BE AT, DID WE SET UP A TENT LAST YEAR FOR COOKIES AND STUFF? IT WAS OUR CHURCH THAT GAVE OUT KPOP.
UM, DONATED IT AND WE HANDED IT OUT FROM OUR TENT.
DO WE HAVE THREE THERE IN THE PIECE? AND IN THAT SHAPE? THE TENTS? WELL WE GOT THE, THE FANCY ONE.
SO YOU WANTED TO FOR SANTA RIGHT COVER YEAH.
AND THEN YOU WANT ANOTHER TENT FOR THE BOARD.
WILL THERE BE PEOPLE THOUGH? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
WHAT DO WE WANNA COMMUNICATE? WE PROBABLY NEED TO COMMUNICATE ON OUR ART SHOW IF WE DO THAT AGAIN.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID LAST YEAR.
LIKE WE'VE GOT PEOPLE TO SIGN UP THERE.
UM, AND JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD YOU WANT TO SAY THIS IS OUR BOARD.
WELL, IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE OUT COOKIES, IT COULD BE WHERE YOU THEM.
JUST HAVE LIKE A CITY TENT THAT WE DID SET UP A TABLE FOR COOKIES AND THEN SOME OTHER INSURANCE.
LIKE OUR, OUR SHOW ANNOUNCEMENTS.
WE AT THAT POINT, I GUESS IT SOUNDS A GOOD IDEA JUST IN CASE THE LETTER COMES ON, BUT I THINK SO.
WELL EVEN IF IT'S THE LIGHTS NOW STILL WANT ESPECI.
LIKE I'LL DONATE THE COOKIES AND I'LL MAIL THE COOKIE.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO.
UM, I DID GET THE INVOICES FROM, UH, THE GREAT LIGHT FARM.
UM, THEY ESTIMATED IF WE WANTED TO DO THE HAY RIDE AGAIN, UM, THEY WOULD GIVE US THE SAME PRICE AS THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
THEY'VE DONE IT AT 500 AND THEY HAVE THE TWO WAGONS THAT THEY TOOK PEOPLE AROUND.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, THEY ALSO HAVE LASER TAG AND THEY SAID, UM, THEY, I FORGET HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY COULD FIT IN AT ONE TIME, BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR A SEVEN 50.
THEY PROVIDE THE GUNS, THE OBSTACLE COURSE.
UM, AND IF IT, IF WEATHER IS NOT PERMITTED, THEY HAVE LIKE MINIATURE COUGH.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO, BECAUSE SOME IN THE RAIN, IF IT'S LIKE SPRINKLING OR SNOWING, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN USE THE GUNS.
UH, MINIATURE GOLF, YOU CAN DO THAT.
WHAT IS THE, THE OTHER GROUP THAT I'M OBTAINED, SO REMIX WAS 3,500, UM, TO UH, DJ AND BRING ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT AND DO A SHOW.
UH, I JUST GOT, UM, INVOICES FOR, OR NOT INVOICES, BUT ESTIMATES FOR, 'CAUSE WE SAID WE WERE LOOKING FOR THINGS.
SO I JUST GOT, I THOUGHT THEY DID A GREAT JOB THAT IF WE GOT SOMETHING GOING ON, THAT ONE PEOPLE HAVE.
THE NICE THING WAS THEY BROUGHT THEIR EQUIPMENT.
SO WE HAD A MICROPHONE, WE HAD THE SOUND SYSTEM.
SO IT WAS KIND OF, THEY KEPT EVERYBODY VERY WELL ENTERTAINED, MOVING ALONG.
THE KIDS HAD SOME MICE WHEN THEY WERE SINGING.
THAT'S BUT ISN'T THAT, IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT'S TYPICALLY PROVIDED THE MICROPHONE AND SPEAKERS THAT SOMETHING THAT EACH, UH, ORGANIZATION HAVE TO BRING THEMSELVES BEFORE ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS JUST S SOME NO EQUIPMENT.
SO THIS WAS MONTHS LAST YEAR, RIGHT? I MEAN YEAR KIDS, I THINK MAYBE FIVE YEARS AGO CHURCHES CAME AND THEY BROUGHT THEIR SOUND EQUIPMENT.
THAT, THAT CHURCH THAT CAME IN SAYING CAROL'S FOREST, THEY BROUGHT THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT.
WE'VE NOT GRED EQUIPMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVENT.
MY, MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT WE COULD GET THE MONEY FOR REMIX AND THE HAYRIDE.
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I DON'T NECESSARILY CARE ABOUT LASER CHECK, BUT I KNOW EVERYBODY THAT'S I INTO SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A BIT TOO MUCH GOING ON WITH, RIGHT.THAT'S KIND OF, THAT WOULD BE JUST ONE MORE THING.
BUT I, I KNOW PEOPLE LOVE THE HAY RIDES AND I THOUGHT REMIX JUST DID A FABULOUS JOB LAST YEAR.
SO, AND WE CAN'T, I SUPPOSE WE CAN'T GET APPROVAL FOR THE MONEY.
MAYBE FEBRUARY 3RD OR SOMETHING, TRY TO FIND SOME SPONSORS, UH, SET TO VOTE TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN GET FUNDING FOR THIS.
THAT WOULD, THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, ISN'T IT? UM, WE HAD REMIX LAST YEAR.
WE DID HAVE THREE LAST YEAR, RIGHT IN THE HAYRIDE HAY.
UH, LAST COUPLE YEARS WE HAD DO YOU GUYS DID ACTUALLY VOTE LAST MEETING TO HAVE BOTH REMIX AND THE HAYRIDE AND ONLY ASHLEY VOTED NO ON THE HAYRIDE PENDING HOW OR NO ON REMIX PENDING HOW MUCH THEY RETIRED COST.
SO RIGHT NOW I AM LOOKING AS I'M PLANNING FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT WILL BE REMIXED AND IT WOULD BE HAY RIDES, UM, I GUESS PACKAGE IN THE AIR.
UM, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED WITH TAPE FOOD TAG OFF THE, OFF THE OPTIONS AND JUST ASK FOR $4,000.
DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? SO MOVED.
I DON'T THINK YOU, OH BECAUSE WE ALREADY KIND OF DID THAT BUT WE ALREADY VOTED LAST TIME.
SO HOW SO NOW WE, WE APPROACH COUNCIL THAT, SO I'LL DO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT 'CAUSE THERE COULD BE OTHER MONEY IN A BUDGET.
JUST THE JURY DISCRETION AND WE'LL JUST WORK ON THAT FIRST AND IF WE HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL THEM, GREAT.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO WE WANT A FOOD TRUCK? I KNOW YOU DIDN'T DECIDE THAT.
UM, A FOOD TRUCK HAS WORKED WITH US BEFORE THAT I TALKED TO THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THE HOT CHOCOLATE.
SO THEY'RE LIKE THEY WERE AT THE 4TH OF JULY SO THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK INSURANCE.
THAT'S THEIR COST TO US THOUGH.
YEAH, WELL IT'S, I THINK LIKE, UM, I THINK THAT I'LL TRY AND PLAN FOR THE PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO GIVE OUT HOT CHOCOLATE.
BE A GOOD DRIVER, YOU KNOW, TO THAT TENT AND TO GIVE OUT MORE CITY INFO AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SORRY IF I'M INTERRUPTING BUT NO.
WOULD FIRST SATURDAY IN DECEMBER BE TOO SOON TO HAVE LIT PRINT LITERATURE WITH SCHEDULED FOR NEXT YEAR OR LIGHTLY? YEAH, PROBABLY.
UM, I HAVE ASKED THE OTHER BOARDS, UM, REALLY THE ONE OTHER BOARD THAT DOES EVENTS, BUT I ALSO WANTED ASK THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY BOARD TO PLEASE START LOOKING AT THEIR DATES NOW.
AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT LIKE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIMELINE.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN PLAN, BECAUSE IN JANUARY ONE WE'LL OPEN UP TO OUTSIDE ORGANIZERS.
UM, SO ANOTHER GROUP, A ROTARY GLOVE ALLIANCE CLUB, OPTIMUS CLUB WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, WE WOULD BEGIN TAKING THEIR EVENT APPLICATIONS.
UM, SO I NEED THE INTERNAL STUFF SOONER RATHER THAN LATER NOW.
I DO THINK WE SHOULD START ADVERTISING THE ART SHOW.
YOU DID MENTION THAT BECAUSE THAT'S COMING COMES UP PRETTY QUICK.
WELL AND IF WE WANT THE SCHOOLS TO BE INVOLVED, THEY NEED TO WORK ON IT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
UM, DO YOU GUYS CARE IF WE HAVE A FOOD TRUCK? THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO HOT CHOCOLATE BUT JUST TO BE THERE TO GET I THINK IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE HOURS THAT WE YEAH, BUT IF YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE HOT CHOCOLATE THEN THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT AND THEY CAN JUST DO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING.
JUST ANOTHER OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT UM, WE CAN THINK OF THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE TREE LANE? DID WE DECIDE IF WE ARE GETTING MORE BOOKS OR JUST WRAPPING THE BOOKS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE? ALL THE BOOKS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ARE WRAPPED.
LEMME REPHRASE THE QUESTION THEN.
ARE WE GETTING MORE BOOKS THAT YOU WRAPPED OR JUST KEEPING WHAT WE HAVE WE GETTING BOOKS THAT WE WRAPPED? I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET MORE BOOKS ONLY BECAUSE WE CARRIED OVER SO MANY
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EVERY YEAR.GET THROUGH WHAT WE GOT BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN CARRIED OVER TWO YEARS.
THE, I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THE WRAPPING IS GONNA
SOMEBODY WAS WITH ME DOWN IN THE AMPHITHEATER AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT WAS IN THERE.
MAYBE BECAUSE I GOT 'EM LAST YEAR, SO I MIGHT HAVE LOOKED AT 'EM WITH YOU.
THERE WAS A BIG BID, PRETTY FULL.
I, I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE PROBABLY ABLE TO USE UP WHAT WE'VE GOT AND THEN START ING SITTING THERE.
UM, I DID JUST GET A TEXT MESSAGE AND REMINDER THAT SKYLINE CHILI HAS, UM, OFFERED TO DONATE A THOUSAND HOT DOGS FOR FREE TO.
SO THAT MIGHT PUT A DENT IN YOUR TRUCK BUSINESS IF YOU ALL WHAT? 3000? I CAN LET HIM KNOW.
WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SWITCH THAT TO A DIFFERENT EVENT OR THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT CHRISTMAS? I THINK IT'S THE CHRISTMAS IS WHAT THEY'VE OFFERED.
UM, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANOTHER EVENT IN THE MEANTIME.
SO SOMEBODY TO PUT THOSE TOGETHER.
WE DON'T HAVE A MOVIE IN SEPTEMBER.
I GUESS THAT'S WHERE THE, EVEN THE, WE HAVE A IN SEPTEMBER, I CAN ASK 'EM IF THEY CARE FREE STUFF IS GIVEN AWAY AND THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO IT OR THEY, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.
I, I'LL, I'LL TELL 'EM WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED TO.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THE HOT LIST AND EVERYTHING GONNA BE READY FOR SOMEBODY HAVE PUT THEM TOGETHER TO GET TO PEOPLE? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE COMING.
I, I IMAGINE THEY WOULD BE COMING TO DISTURB BUT I DUNNO.
SO WELL THEY WERE AT THE ZOMBIE WALK LAST YEAR.
YEAH, THEY'RE PROBABLY WRAPPED IN.
THEY WERE MOSTLY, I FEEL LIKE THEY WOULD GET SOMEBODY READY PASS 'EM OUT AND THEN GET SOME MORE.
BUT THEY HAVE PEOPLE TO DO IT.
DID WE HAVE TO? NO, I THINK IT WAS THEM, BUT I WASN'T SURE IF THAT'S CASE THIS TIME TOO.
AS LONG AS THEY CAN HANDLE THE DISTRIBUTION OF, I THINK THEY'RE PART OF COMMUNITY CARE SO.
THE LAST ONE THAT I WENT WHERE THEY GAVE HOT DOGS, IT WAS ALREADY PRE-DONE AND WE, HE PICKED UP GO GET THEM.
BUT DID THEY PASS THEM OUT OR DID YOU GUYS HAVE TO DISTRIBUTE THEM? 'CAUSE THAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
THEY WERE PA WELL AT THE, I CAN SAY AT THE SAW WALK I SAW THEM PASSING THEM OUT.
SO THEN WE JUST NEED, YOU WANNA REACH JASMINE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO REACH OUT TO SKYLINE? WHICHEVER.
WHO WAS SKYLINE? THE ONE THAT CONTACTED YOU? OH, I CAN, I CAN ASK HER.
SO WE JUST NEED TO, IF YOU STILL WANT TO GET A FOOD TRUCK, WE NEED TO DECIDE.
AND THEY NEED TO KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT WE HAVE THESE HOT DOGS BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY DON'T WANT HAVE FOR THAT.
WELL HOT CHOCOLATE'S GONNA BE PROVIDED AND HOT DOGS, THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO COME.
IT'S, I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THAT SKYLINE WOULD BE UP FOR TWO OR ONE OF OUR MAYBE NOTES.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE LIKE CHOIRS FROM THE SCHOOLS? WE ALREADY HAVE ONE CHOIRS SIGNED UP.
I THINK IT'S, PLUS IT WAS THE SAME ONE THAT DID IT LAST YEAR.
UM, I HAVE THIS WRITTEN DOWN MONTICELLO.
THE, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL CHOIR TEACHER JUST GOT BACK TO ME ABOUT LAST YEAR.
I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET HIM INTERESTED IN.
YEAH, I HAVE TO START REALLY EARLY CONTACTING THE SCHOOL.
SO, UM, I, I'M GONNA CONTACT MORE.
UM, THERE'S A HOMESCHOOL GROUP THAT'S OFFERED TO SAME IF WE WANT, UM, OKAY, SO I SHOULD GO AHEAD.
IS THAT WHAT DOES EVERYBODY YEAH THAT'S FINE.
YEAH, THE MORE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE A PART OF IT, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA PARTICIPATE AND SHOW UP.
WELL EXPERIENCE DOESN MAYBE IF YOU ASK FIVE GROUPS TO COME, THREE WILL, THREE WILL.
SO WE KIND HAVE REGROUPED SO FAR, UM, THAT WE'VE ASKED.
UM, WE HAVE TO WATCH HOW MUCH TIME WE GIVE EACH ONE THOUGH.
SO ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, WE SOMEWHAT LEFT IT UP IN THE AIR ABOUT IN SANTA CLAUS.
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OH NO, WE, IN THE LAST MEETING WE WERE DECIDING THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK THROUGH THE PROCEDURE OF SELECTING THE VOLUNTEER SANTA.I HAVEN'T SEEN THE COURT HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN OUT.
I MEAN WE VOTED ON THAT LAST YEAR.
UM, NO, WE VOTED IT, WE VOTED IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
SO HAS THE APPLICATION BEEN BEEN OUT FOR NO, FOR VOLUNTEERS.
SO, UM, I TOOK THAT RECOMMENDATION TO MY SUPERIOR AND I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER FOR YOU YET.
UM, I DID ALSO LOOK AT SOME PROFESSIONAL STANCES AS WELL, SO I DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH THAT.
NO, I THOUGHT WE, YEAH, I THOUGHT WE HAD DECIDED TO PUT THE APPLICATION OUT LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
WELL WE HAD EXCELLENT, WE HAD TO, THAT CREW LAST YEAR DID AN EXCELLENT JOB FOR US.
IN FACT, ONE OF OUR OWN BOARD MEMBERS IS PART OF THAT GROUP.
AND AGAIN, MY DAD, ONE OF MY FAVORITE OF HIS THING WAS IF IT AIN'T BROKE, WE'LL FIX IT.
SO I WOULD SAY, LET'S GO WITH THE GROUP WE HAD LAST YEAR.
BUT THEY PUT ON A GREAT CHOP FOR THEN THERE'S WHAT, SIX OR EIGHT CHARACTERS TOGETHER WITH THAT GROUP? YEAH.
UH, THEY, SO EVEN MORE SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING, GREG, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FLY? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DECIDED, WE ALREADY OKAY.
THAT WE WOULD PUT AN APPLICATION OUT ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE APPLICANTS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I FROM THE APPLICANTS.
SO TO HELP ME LIKE MEETING A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHAT WOULD YOUR CRITERIA BE IN SELECTING ONE PERSON OVER ANOTHER? DO YOU REMEMBER OUR NOTES FROM LAST YEAR? 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAD SAID THAT YOU HAD TO MEET A FEWER PARENTS FOR RESIDENT.
WE ONLY HAD A BACKGROUND CHECK WAS LAST TO PROVIDE YOUR OWN CAUTIONS.
THERE WAS, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A FEW THINGS THAT YEAH, WE HAD A CRITERIA FOR, BUT IT WAS POSTED ON THE APPLICATION.
I GUESS WE HAD TO GO BACK AND GET THE APPLICATION, BUT WE ONLY HAD ONE SANTA APPLY LAST YEAR.
THE HELPERS DIDN'T HAVE TO APPLY.
WE HAD THE APPLICATION SAID, DO YOU WANNA BE SANTA? DO YOU WANT TO BE A SANTA HELPER? I THINK THEY ALL LIKE DID THE SAME APPLICATION.
RIGHT, BUT THEY HAD A COLLECTION.
UM, NO, THE REASON THAT WE BEGAN THIS PARTICULAR, UM, NOT, UM, CHOOSING, UM, IS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME HARD FEELINGS FROM VOLUNTEERS.
LIKE IT WASN'T BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.
UM, SO THIS WAS AS FAIR AND, UM, UNBIASED.
UNBIASED AS WE COULD, WE COULD.
WE DECIDED IT WOULD WORK BETTER.
SO YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE FORMER PERSON WHO WAS SANTA FOR MANY YEARS WAS NOT SANTA ONE YEAR AFTER THE BOARD VOTED FOR A DIFFERENT SANTA.
AND THEN THOSE, EACH OF THOSE TWO PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THE COMMUNITY AND WOULD STILL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE SANTA THIS YEAR.
SO HOW WOULD WE CATCH, SO HOW WOULD YOU CHOOSE, WHICH IS WHY I BELIEVE WE COULD JUST REMOVE THE BURDEN FROM THE BOARD WHO HAS TO SIT IN CHURCH AND GROCERY SHOP AT KROGER ALONGSIDE THESE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND INSTEAD HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF SELECT SANTA CLAUSE FOR THE EVENT.
AND YOU CAN, WELL WHY DON'T WE JUST ASK THEM? ISN'T THAT A GREAT IDEA? WHY DO YOU WANT BE SANTA THAT CAN HELP US DECIDE? 'CAUSE IF SOMEBODY SAYS, 'CAUSE I'VE DONE IT FOR 40 YEARS COMPARED TO, I WANNA REPRESENT COOPER HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT THEY SAY CAN REALLY HELP US DECIDE OR SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE AN ID.
NO, I FEEL LIKE IN THE APPLICATION YOU SAY, I MEAN WE LUCKED OUT LAST.
YEAH, WE LUCKED OUT LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD ONE APPLICANT.
BUT WE DID DECIDE TO DO IT THIS WAY BECAUSE WE WERE CONFRONTED BY PEOPLE THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A FAIR SHOT AT IT.
I DON'T KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE THAT SAME OPINION IF THEY DIDN'T GET SELECTED, BUT I DUNNO, I WE ALREADY, I MEAN WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON IT.
SO I MEAN UNLESS WE TO GET RID OF WHAT WE
WELL MAYBE THAT BRINGS UP A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE AT A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, UM, SARAH, YOU MADE A REFERENCE TO THAT.
WE WERE JUST KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION BOARD THAT WE REALLY
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DIDN'T VOTE ON ANYTHING.UM, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT COMMENT? YES.
SO THE BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF WHO IMPLEMENTS THE AGENDA OF CITY THROUGH CITY MANAGER ABOUT ORGANIZATION.
SO THIS BOARD PARTICULARLY VOLUNTEERS FOR A LOT OF EVENTS AND TAKES A LEAD ON PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTING THOSE.
AND SO WHEN YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR A CITY EVENT, IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT ANYBODY SAYS NO BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO HAVE BUY-IN TO THE VOLUNTEERING THAT YOU'RE DOING.
HOWEVER, IT IS ULTIMATELY A RECOMMENDATION.
SO I CAN GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE THAT, WELL, I WENT BACK TO THE CHARTER AND WHAT CITY COUNCIL STATED IN OUR, UM, OUR COMMISSION HANDBOOK.
AND YES, IT SAYS WE ARE, UM, DEVELOPING PROPOSALS AND PLANS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS OF BEAUTY IN THE CITY.
BUT THERE WAS ONE PART THAT SAYS THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE COMMISSION HAS PLANNING AND OPERATIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES RELATED TO CITY SPONSORED FESTIVALS, EVENTS, PARADES, AND OTHER RELATED ACTIVITIES.
LIKE, UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD A MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL.
UM, THEY FELT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, UM, MORE BUY-IN AND THEY WANTED US TO HAVE MORE LEADERSHIP ROLE IN PLANNING THESE EVENTS.
AND SO I'M JUST VERY CONFUSED OF SINCE YOU'VE TAKEN THIS ROLE OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED VERY QUICKLY.
SO I'M JUST GOING BACK TO OUR HANDBOOK AND LOOKING AT THE RULES.
AND SO I'D REALLY LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION AND I'VE I'VE, UM, ON SOME OF THIS FOR ALL OF US.
UM, ALL I CAN OFFER YOU IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT, WHICH IS THAT YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE CITY ORGANIZATION WILL ACCEPT THEM OR THEY CAN COME, USUALLY IT'S ACCEPTED BY DEFAULT.
YOU KNOW, SAY WE WANT TO DO COOKIES AND NOBODY QUESTIONS IT.
UM, HOWEVER, IF YOU WERE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY ORGANIZATION DIDN'T WANT TO ACCEPT, THEN THAT CHANGE WOULDN'T TAKE PLACE.
SO I CAN GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY BOARD ASSISTANCE ACTION COMMISSION OPTED NOT TO DO THEIR MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL THIS YEAR.
UM, THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT SAT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME.
AND SO THEY CHARGED, UM, THE PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE CAME ON BOARD TO HELP IMPLEMENT ONE IN OCTOBER.
SO IT'S LIKE YOU CAN SAY, HEY, WE ARE NOT WANTING TO PUT OUR SUPPORT BEHIND THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT ULTIMATELY WON'T HAPPEN OR THAT IT WILL HAPPEN.
UM, BECAUSE WHILE YOU DO HAVE PLANNING GOALS SO THAT YOU HAVE BUY-IN SO THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE TO THESE EVENTS THAT WE'RE SPENDING TIME AND MONEY ON THE END, ALL DECISION FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS DOESN'T REST WITH THIS BOARD.
FOR EXAMPLE, PURCHASING POWERS.
UM, YOU GUYS WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SIGN A REQUISITION OR, UM, THAT WAS NEVER A QUESTION.
BUT WE'RE SITTING UP HERE VOTING AND DECIDING AND HELPING PLAN EVENTS AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT OUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT.
AND UM, THAT'S WHEN WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, UM, PLANNING ANDER, UH, OPERATIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO LET'S, I I MEAN I HEAR YOUR FRUSTRATION AND ON THE SPECIFIC NOTE OF THE SANTA WELL THE SANTA YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH SAYING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
SO YOU WENT TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AND DISMISSING EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAID HERE AND VOTED FOR YOU DISMISSED IT.
UM, I DO DISAGREE WITH IT AND I DISAGREE WITH IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE SANTA THAT WILL BE CONTENDING AS A SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER AND ANOTHER SANTA THAT COULD BE CONTENDING AS A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AND WAS AT THE TIME.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW OR WHY THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT COULD END UP WITH POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT DECISIONS THAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT FESTIVAL GAME SHOULD WE GET OR WHAT ENTERTAINER SHOULD WE GET SHOULD BE MORE OF WHAT YOU'RE FOCUSED ON RATHER THAN THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ENDED UP COULD END UP HAVING POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS.
BUT IS THAT REALLY YOUR JOB AS LIAISON FOR THIS BOARD TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS? WHEN I HAVE TO ENACT ACTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY,
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THEN I DO HAVE TO GIVE MY INPUT ON WHAT I THINK IS APPROPRIATE.SO I HAVE RELAYED YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND I RELAY MY RECOMMENDATION TO MY SUPERIORS.
I DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU YET.
I THINK THAT'S WHY MAYBE IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN INTO THIS CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE LET'S JUST BE FOR REAL.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SANTA, IT'S ABOUT OTHER THINGS TOO.
SO, AND WHAT ELSE COULD I ADDRESS FOR YOU? UM, WELL I THINK BRINGING OTHERS IN THE CONVERSATION WOULD BE BETTER.
AND WHO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO INVITE? UH, MAYBE ANTHONY.
HE IS NOT, BUT UM, MY BOSS IS NO, ANTHONY AND YOUR BOSS.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR, UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS THERE.
SO LIKE POLITICS IS NOT MY FORTE AT ALL.
ARE WE HERE TO HELP YOU GUYS IMPLEMENT YOUR IDEAS OR ARE YOU GUYS HERE TO HELP US IMPLEMENT OUR IDEAS OR LIKE, I JUST WANT TO GET SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE I SHOULD BE HAVING ON THE COMMISSION SO I COULD SHARE MY PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
UM, BUT I ALSO DO HAVE THIS MENTEE ACTIVITY.
BULLET POINTS AND IT NOT SO MUCH EXPLAINS IT, BUT EMPOWERS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.
SO OBVIOUSLY YOUR UM, CHARTER IS, IS WRITTEN QUITE BROADLY.
THERE'S, THERE'S CULTURAL ARTS, THERE'S FINE ARTS.
UM, YOU GUYS ARE DOING FESTIVALS AND EVENTS AND PROGRAMS. AND SO EACH TIME THIS BOARD TURNS OVER, THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO HAVE NINE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES HERE WITH NINE DIFFERENT SKILL SETS AND NINE DIFFERENT SETS OF INTERESTS.
AND THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THE MISSION OF THE BOARD.
UM, SO, OKAY, SO YOU ARE HERE TO HELP US IMPLEMENT OUR VISIONS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE MY OPINION THAT YOU ARE ALSO HERE TO ADVISE IF I HAVE ARTS AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS AND PRACTICES THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THEM TO YOU FOR FEEDBACK AS A COMMUNITY SOUNDING BOARD.
YOU MEAN AS PARKS MANAGER? CORRECT.
OR I THOUGHT THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION BOARD WAS SET UP FOR CITY COUNCIL AND THEIR, THEIR, SO IT IS CHARGED WITH STUDYING DEVELOPMENT, UM, UH, TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL AND IMPLEMENTING THOSE IDEALS OF A COMMUNITY, A BODY OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WANT TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S NOT AS DONE THROUGH CITY PERSONNEL.
THAT'S WHY A CITY PERSON IS ASSIGNED TO YOUR BOARD.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ENACT THE ACTIONS RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A COUNCIL MEMBER SITTING ON THE BOARD.
WE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TAKEN BY DEFAULT.
AND WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS ON A BOARD, IT NEEDS THE CITY'S WORK AND CONSIDERATION, THEN THAT'S TAKEN, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY MANAGER.
SO LIKE, JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE WE COME TO YOU AND YOU HELP US TO LIKE, OKAY, THIS ISN'T REALLY GONNA WORK, OR YES, THIS CAN WORK.
LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT.
AND THEN IF YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WERE SEEKING OUR ADVICE ON, YOU'D COME TO US AND ASK.
BUT WOULD YOU, LIKE, YOU WOULDN'T MAKE CHANGES WITHOUT US, RIGHT? LIKE YOU WOULDN'T MAKE CHANGES TO THE COMMISSION WITHOUT TALKING TO US.
I'M NOT EMPOWERED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE COMMISSION.
WHAT ABOUT LIKE PARTNERING AND STUFF? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? WELL, I WAS SURPRISED TO FIND OUT THAT WE WERE PARTNERING, PARTNERING WITH PEACE AND TRANQUILITY POND THAT I LEARNED ABOUT LAST WEEK THINKING I MISSED A MEETING.
LIKE YOU GUYS ALL DISCUSSED ALL THIS.
OH, YOU MEAN FOR THE CHRISTMAS? YEAH.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING, BUT IT'S, WAS THERE A MEETING THAT I MISSED OR? NO, SO, UM, WELL I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT LIKE, I DIDN'T EVEN JUST SAY LIKE, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW? UM, SO CINDY CAME TO THAT MEETING TO EXPRESS HER DESIRE TO PARTNER WITH THE CHRISTMAS PROGRAM.
SO BECAUSE THAT BREAK TYPICALLY ENDS AT THE TREE LIGHTING, HOWEVER IT'S HER CREW.
BUT THEN WITH THE MOVIE NIGHTS AND STUFF TOO.
SO THE MOVIE NIGHTS I BELIEVE WAS BROUGHT BY MS. DANIEL THAT SHE COULD ASK IF THE GR SHE AND THESE OTHER PEOPLE COULD COME, BUT I, SHE'S PART OF THE GROUP THAT DOES THE MASCOT.
SO WE'RE NOT PARTNERING WITH THEM, IT'S JUST THIS ONE EVENT? WELL, NO, THERE'S NO FORMAL PARTNERSHIP
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DOCUMENT.AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD I ASKED.
I THOUGHT THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, IS THAT WE WERE GOING FORWARD WITH SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE JUST THIS ONE EVENT.
BUT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GROUP, WE CAN ASK FOR SOMEONE TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION COME IN AND ASSIST US WITH PUTTING ON A PROGRAM.
I WHAT WE DID AT THE JULY MEETING, OR SORRY, THE JULY, UH, JULY MOVIE NIGHT.
AND AGAIN, WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH THE, UH, DECEMBER EVENT.
I MEAN IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO BIG FOR I AGREE.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY HAD ALREADY, I JUST THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DECIDED WAS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
HONOR THAT US BEING A PART OF THE DECISION MAKING.
BUT THAT'S WHY I ASKED RATHER THAN JUST BEING WRONG,
AND I, I, AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER, WELL THEY'VE OVERRULED SOME THINGS BUDGET WISE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THEY, THEY CAME TO US AT ONE POINT, UH, AND IT WAS THE ONE YEAR THAT 4TH OF JULY ACTUALLY FELL ON SATURDAY.
AND SO THEN TWO, THREE YEARS AGO MAYBE, AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE IT ON SATURDAY OR DO YOU KNOW, MAKE, THEY WANTED US TO MAKE A DECISION.
DO WE HAVE IT ON SATURDAY AND PAY OVERTIME FOR EVERYBODY AND ALL OF THAT OR DO WE HAVE IT AS WE ALWAYS DO ON THE SATURDAY PROCEEDING? AND WE VOTED TO DO THE SATURDAY PROCEEDING BECAUSE WE THOUGHT, WELL THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY OVERTIME FOR EVERYBODY
AND SO WE VOTED FOR THE SATURDAY BEFORE AND THEY OVERRULED US AND THEY WENT WITH THE SATURDAY OF 4TH OF JULY.
BUT, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I COULD EVER REALLY REMEMBER THEM COMING BACK AND SAYING, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN LIKE I SAID, BUDGET, BUDGET RESTRICTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART I THINK THEY, THEY DO KIND OF DEPEND ON US TO MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR OUR BOARD, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS THEY, THEY DO HAVE THE FINAL SAY SO.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT WAS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE TIME THAT THEY DID COME TO US AND SAY, YOU GUYS MAKE THE DECISION, ARE WE GONNA DO IT THIS WAY OR THAT WAY? AND THEN THEY ENDED UP OVERRULING US ANYWAY.
SO YEAH, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT, AS I RECALL, THE COMMUNITY OUT OUTAGE.
I'M SURE THE COMMUNITY WAS LIKE, HEY, YOU FINALLY GOT IT ON FOURTH IN JULY, LET'S DO IT.
SO, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I, I JUST, I GUESS I, I JUST NEVER FELT LIKE THAT THEY OVERRULE US THAT OFTEN AND WE USUALLY GET OUR WAY WITH THINGS, BUT, AND MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE STUFF IS JUST AT THE DINNER.
BUT I DON'T, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EITHER, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATE FURTHER LIKE WITH, WITH TONY AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU TONY, SHANNON, AND ANY OF US STUFF WANT TO GET IN ON IT.
I JUST HAVE KIND OF A SEPARATE SIT DOWN MEETING AND, AND CLARIFY SOME OF THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UM, THAT HERE LATELY I'VE BEEN REALLY DREADING AND AVOIDING COMING TO MEETINGS AND UH, I JOINED THIS COMMISSION 'CAUSE I LIKE VOLUNTEERING AND IT ENRICHES MY LIFE AND I DO NOT FEEL THAT FROM THIS BOARD ANYMORE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO STEP DOWN FOR NOW AS THE VICE CHAIR AND PENDING THE MEETING WITH TONY AND WHOEVER ELSE CAN INVITE.
I'M NOT SURE IF I WANT TO CONTINUE.
I CANNOT HANDLE THE STRESS AND THE POLITICS ANYMORE.
SO CHAIR, WELL SHE SAID PENDING.
NO, SHE SAID SHE STEPPING DOWN IN THE CHAIR.
OH, SHE'S STAYING ON THE BOARD PENDING WHEN MEETING, BUT IN OTHER WORDS SHE DOES, SHE WANTS TO STAY ON THE BOARD, SHE JUST DOESN'T WANT ADVICE TO.
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I HAVE A FEELING WE'RE KIND OF FALLING APART HERE.SO I DON'T WANNA GET CAUGHT IN POLITICS EITHER.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION OF, UM, WHEN, WHEN THINGS TRANS TRANSFERRED BETWEEN UH, OUR NEW LIAISON AND THE OLD LIAISON AND JUST NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING OR HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT.
UM, AND MAYBE SOME CLARIFICATION, UM, WILL HELP.
'CAUSE EACH PERSON IS DIFFERENT.
EACH UH, LIAISON HAS THEIR OWN PERSONALITY, BUT WHEN RULES AND THINGS CHANGE, UM, COMMUNICATION CHANGED, UM, THAT IS HARD.
AND UM, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALL FILLING THE TENSION.
SO WE COULD HOLD ON, UM, UNTIL WE CAN MEET WITH ANTHONY AND LET MAYBE CLARIFY SOME OF THIS FOR US.
MAYBE, MAYBE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG ALL THIS TIME, BUT, UM, UH, LET'S JUST HOLD ON AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY IF WE NEED TO WALK AWAY FOR TODAY.
UM, OR IF WE CAN GET THROUGH AT LEAST OUR, OUR OLD BUSINESS SO WE CAN HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING PLANNED AND THEN FROM THERE, UM, UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TECHNICALLY TO PLAN FOR THIS COMING UP, SO NO.
UM, IF WE WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO ADJOURN AND NOT DO THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES ACTIVITY, THEN UM, I'LL COMMUNICATE WITH TONY AND MY SUPERVISOR TO MAKE A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
CAN WE, UH, TABLE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING? IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE SOME THAT YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
I WILL SHOW MOTION THAT WE TABLE THAT TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
'CAUSE I THINK WE DO NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS GOALS AND PRIORITIES.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING THESE THINGS, SO IT'LL BE AFTER.
OKAY, SO OUR NEXT MOVIE NIGHT'S THE 20TH, SO IT'LL BE AFTER OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO WRAP UP FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING OR WE GET PAST THAT? WE JUST NEED SEE IF IT'S APPROVED, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THERE'S, WE STILL HAVE TIME.
UM, AND JUST BEARING IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER WAS PEOPLE DAY THAT DO THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO GET THEIR SCHEDULES PUT TOGETHER, SO, SO THERE WAS A MOTION AND SECONDED.
UM, SO WE'LL CLOSE THE MEETING OUT.
DO YOU WANNA APPROVE THE, OH, WE PROBABLY SHOULD.
IS THERE, UM, DOES EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? THERE ARE TWO BEFORE YOU, UM, FROM THE JULY MEETING AND THEN ALSO FROM THE AUGUST MEETING.
HI, THAT WAS THE SPECIAL MEETING.
HAS ANYONE HAD ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE TWO MEETINGS IN AUGUST OR MEETING IN, UM, SORRY, JULY AND AUGUST.
UM, R AND UNIFICATION COMMISSION MEETINGS, UH, ARE APPROVED AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE AT 7 21.