Apr 16, 2024 Council Work Session

TODAY'S DATE IS APRIL 16TH, 2024.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO CITY OF HUBBERT HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

WE'RE GETTING STARTED AT 6 0 3.

UH, THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALL TO ORDER.

SO, KAREN, WE CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

AND ALTHOUGH WE DON'T NEED EXCUSED ABSENCES, UH, THIS EVENING, UH, MS. KITCHEN DID LET US KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THAT SHE WAS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.

SO SHE DID LET US KNOW.

EXCUSE ME.

[2. Approval Of Minutes]

ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UH, ITEM TWO A IS APRIL 10TH, 2024.

UH, THOSE ADMITS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED THERE.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? LET US KNOW.

NOT THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS APPROVED.

[ City Manager Report]

TOPICS OF DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, AND WE'LL GET STARTED WITH ITEM THREE A, WHICH IS OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.

RICK MEETING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

UH, FEW ITEMS. UH, FIRST THE FARMER'S MARKET OPENS MAY 4TH.

UH, THE PARKS MANAGER IS, UH, HAVING A MEETING WITH VENDORS ON APRIL 20TH TO PROVIDE TRAINING AND INFORMATION.

UM, WE'RE ALSO SEEKING ADDITIONAL MEAT AND PRODUCE VENDORS AT THIS TIME, SO, UH, THOSE VENDORS CAN RECEIVE A DISCOUNT ON THEIR, UH, DAILY OR ANNUAL FEES.

UH, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A SUCCESSFUL SEASON.

UM, THE DOG PARK FENCE REPLACEMENT WILL BEGIN THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY.

UM, THEY'LL BE REPLACING ONE SECTION OF FENCE AT A TIME SO THAT THE PARK CAN REMAIN OPEN.

AND THEN WE ALSO ANTICIPATE THE DELIVERY OF THE GAZEBO TO DIAL PARK, UH, AROUND THE SAME TIME.

SO, UH, DIAL, PARK AND LANDSCAPING, UH, WILL FOLLOW THAT INSTALLATION SOMETIME IN MAY.

UH, CR DAYTON.

SO INSTALLATION OF A NEW DRAIN AND CATCH BASIN.

STARTED TODAY WITH A PAVING PLAN FOR THURSDAY.

UM, RAIN'S DELAYED THE PROJECT SLIGHTLY, UM, BUT THE, UH, STOREFRONT IS ABOUT A WEEK OUT.

AND THEN THE LAST TWO COLUMNS FOR STONE, UH, ARE COMING SHORTLY AFTER.

UM, MR. KOWSKI AND I PLAN TO MEET WITH THE YMCA ON FRIDAY FOLLOWING COUNCIL'S ACTION LAST WEEK TO NEGOTIATE OUR LEASE WITH THE, UH, YMCA FOR THE FORMER SINCLAIR SPACE.

UM, IT DIRECTOR DAVE WARREN STARTED YESTERDAY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY HE HAS A LOT ON HIS PLATE.

UH, HE'S GETTING HIS FEET UNDERNEATH HIM, BUT ONCE HE'S, UH, COMPLETED THAT I WILL BRING HIM TO COUNCIL, UH, FOR A QUICK INTRODUCTION IN THE NEXT, UH, FEW WEEKS.

UM, THIS YEAR'S WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECTS, UM, WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE.

CG CONSTRUCTION STARTED ON HUBBARD DRIVE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO DOING MAIN INSTALLATION.

AND THEN M AND T CONSTRUCTION WILL BE STARTING ON, UH, SPERRY DRIVE ON APRIL 29TH.

UM, WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT AS THE WEATHER IMPROVES, UM, EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF MOTORCYCLISTS ON THE ROAD.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS ON THE STREETS, OBVIOUSLY AT ALL TIMES.

AND THEN COUNSEL HAD ASKED ME FOR, UH, SOME INFORMATION LAST SESSION REGARDING STAR-SPANGLED HEIGHTS AND THE RIDES.

UM, I DO WANNA LET COUNSEL KNOW THAT IF, IF IT CHOOSES AND I CAN, UH, PRODUCE LEGISLATION FOR A FOLLOWING WORK SESSION, UM, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $10,000 TO PAY F EXTRA TO PAY FOR RIDES IF WE WEREN'T TO, UH, CHARGE OUR VISITORS $10 FOR A BRACELET.

SO, SOMETHING TO TO THINK ABOUT, UM, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANKS, RICK.

ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR RICK REGARDING HIS UPDATE? JUST ONE QUESTION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

, UH, RICK, DID WE, UH, EVER ADDRESS THAT ISSUE WITH THE VENDORS, WITH THE INSURANCE? AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MISDEMEANOR, SO FOLLOWING UP NOW, DID, DID WE GET THAT RESOLVED? YEAH, ABOUT, UH, A WEEK AGO I MET WITH A COUPLE OF VENDORS FROM THE FARMER'S MARKET TO DISCUSS, UM, SOME OF THE MESSAGING THAT THE CITY HAD HAD A FEW YEARS AGO, UH, AROUND COVID TIME ABOUT INSURANCE, UH, FOR FARMER'S MARKET VENDORS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I MADE CLEAR TO THOSE VENDORS WAS, UH, THE CITY'S INSURANCE NEVER HAS NOR WILL EVER COVER VENDORS AT THE MARKET.

UH, IF THEY NEED INSURANCE FOR THEIR OWN RISK, UM, THEY WILL NEED TO ACQUIRE THAT THEMSELF.

UM, I, I THINK THERE WAS SOME INACCURACIES, UM, WITH, WITH PRIOR STAFF MEMBERS WHEN IT CAME TO THAT.

SO, UM, WE DID MAKE THAT CLEAR.

UH, SARAH, WHEN SHE MEETS WITH THE FARMER'S MARKET VENDORS, WE'LL ALSO BE MAKING IT CLEAR TO THEM THAT IF THEY BELIEVE AND, AND WE HAVE A CHECKLIST FOR THIS, IF THEY BELIEVE THEY'RE AT SIGNIFICANT RISK OR AT LEAST AT A RISK OF, UH, LIABILITY, THEN WE WILL RECOMMEND TO THEM THAT THEY, THEY PURCHASE THEIR OWN INSURANCE.

UM, ONE THING WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET, IS WHETHER OUR INSURER CAN THEN SELL AT A DISCOUNTED RATE, UM, INSURANCE FOR OUR FARMER'S MARKET.

UM, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT ANSWER, UM, BUT SARAH EXPECTS TO HAVE IT BY, BY THE TIME SHE MEETS AT THE END OF THE WEEK, SO

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, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SCOTT, RICK, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT IF SOMEBODY TRIPS AND FALLS ON THE SIDEWALK OR CURB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD THE CITY PICK THAT UP AND NOT THE VENDORS? UH, YES.

TECHNICALLY THAT WOULD MAKE THE CITY LIABLE.

UM, WHETHER THE INSURER AND A COURT DETERMINE THAT, THAT WE ARE AT FAULT IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARK SPACE, IT IS, IT IS THE CITY'S LIABILITY LIKE IT IS WITH ANY OTHER, UH, EVENT THAT MIGHT HAPPEN AT THE PARK.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

NEXT IS ITEM THREE B, WHICH IS A MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION UPDATE.

[ Military And Veterans Commission Update]

HELLO.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? JAY? GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL.

UH, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

SO OUR TWO PROGRAMS THAT WE RUN EVERY SINGLE YEAR IS, UM, MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY.

UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH, UH, MEMORIAL DAY, LOOKING FOR A, UH, GUEST SPEAKER FOR THAT.

UM, WE DO HAVE ONE POSITION THAT'S OPEN, I BELIEVE YOU GUYS WILL BE VOTING ON, ON A, UH, CANDIDATE TONIGHT.

UH, SO WE DO HAVE ONE POSITIONS OPEN, UH, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER POSITION, UH, TO FILL.

UM, LET'S SEE.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE PAVER PROGRAM, SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET GOING AND, AND OFF, OFF THE, UM, OFF TO A GOOD START, UH, KIND OF HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY WITH GETTING THE WORD OUT THERE.

SO IF YOU GUYS KNOW ANYBODY, UH, THAT WILL WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM, UH, LET MYSELF OR, UH, MIKE KNOW WHICH ONE IS THAT ON, UH, THE PAVER PROGRAM AT CLOUD PARK.

ALRIGHT.

SO THAT'S WITH THE MEMORIAL.

UM, IT'S THE, UH, IS THE CITY DOING ENOUGH PROMOTION ON THAT TO GET THE WORD OUT? IN MY HONEST OPINION, I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE, UM, VIEW OUR CITY WEBSITE ENOUGH.

UH, SO WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY PROMOTE THAT.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BRAINSTORM KIND OF IN OUR NEXT MEETING ON WHAT WE THINK WILL PROBABLY BE THE BEST, UH, AREA TO TAKE OR, OR ROUTE TO GO AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD ADVERTISE ON KEY AD? YES.

UH, WE COULD DO THAT ON THE KEY ADS BOARD, UH, AS A CITY PROGRAM.

SO YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

SO YEAH, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR, UH, A GUEST SPEAKER FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY PROGRAM.

UH, A COUPLE THINGS THAT'S ALSO GOING ON IS, UH, THERE IS AN HONOR FLIGHT, WHICH WILL BE APRIL 20TH.

UH, AND THAT'S AT EIGHT 30 AT THE DAYTON AIRPORT.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT TO, UH, AND SUPPORT, UH, THAT'S JUST WELCOMING OUR, OUR VETERANS, UM, HOME.

SO THAT WILL BE APRIL 20TH AT 8:30 PM AND THEN, UH, ONE THING THAT WE'LL ALSO BE PARTICIPATING IN THIS YEAR, THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST TIME IS THE OPENING DAY FOR THE, UH, LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL.

SO WE'LL BE PARTICIPATING IN THAT AS WELL.

UH, AND THAT'S GONNA BE MAY 4TH, UM, FROM ONE TO FOUR AT CLOUD PARK.

AND THEN WE WILL WRAP UP OUR YEAR WITH, UH, VETERANS DAY.

SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOT TO THE PLANNING STAGES OF THAT YET, BUT, UH, THAT SHOULD BE COMING ON LATER ON THIS MONTH.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, PLEASE.

UH, DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE, UH, STATUS OF THE WALL OF HONOR? OH, I FORGOT.

SO THE WALL OF HONOR, UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY, WE'RE PART OF IT, BUT WE'RE INDIRECTLY A PART OF IT.

UH, WE'RE ASSISTING IN, UH, SETTING, UH, LIEUTENANT COLONEL REDWOOD AND, AND HIS STAFF UP WITH THE, UM, RESOURCES SO THAT THEY CAN, UH, REACH OUT TO PEOPLE.

UH, THE STATUS RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS, UH, OUR LAST UPDATE THAT WE GOT IS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THE FUNDING PORTION OF IT.

UH, SO IT'S ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION TO, UH, THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

UH, THEY'RE JUST WORKING ON THE FUNDING AND FIGURING OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FUND THE WALL.

SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.

UH, IT IS SUPPOSED TO, UM, MIMIC, I GUESS IS THE RIGHT WORD, UH, INGLEWOOD.

UH, SO THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE PICTURE LAID OUT, KIND OF HOW THEY WANT TO GO ABOUT DOING IT, WHERE THEY PLAN ON DOING IT.

UH, THEY'RE JUST WORKING ON, UM, COMING UP WITH THE FUNDING PART.

DO THEY KNOW WHAT IT'S PROPOSED TO COST THAT? I'M NOT SURE YOU WOULD'VE THAT.

I COULD ASK, UH, COLONEL REDWOOD AND, AND GET THAT BACK TO YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I APPRECIATE YOU VOLUNTEERING FOR OUR BOARD AND COMMISSION.

UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ADVERTISE A PAPER PROGRAM AT MONTGOMERY COUNTY VETERANS? IT'S AN AREA WHY THEY GIVE VETERANS SERVICES AND HELP 'EM CONNECT WITH THEIR PAPERWORK.

AND WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE COULD, LIKE, PUT UP A FLYER AT THEIR OFFICE, OR I CAN CHECK ON THAT.

UH, I, THERE'S NO REASON WHY

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WE COULDN'T.

UH, I KNOW SOME OF THE, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE DID, IF WE, WE'VE TAKEN THE FLYERS AND WE PASSED THEM OUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE EVEN PUT 'EM AT THE LIBRARY.

UH, I DO KNOW THAT THE ONES THAT WE HAVE PUT AT THE LIBRARY, THOSE ARE NOW GONE.

SO PEOPLE ARE GETTING THEM.

UM, WE JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO SPARK THE INTEREST IN ACTUALLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I THINK BEING ABLE TO, UM, HIGHLIGHT WHAT, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, IN ALL HONESTY, DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PAPER PROGRAM MEANS.

SO BEING ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, THAT MAYBE ON THE CITY'S PAGE OR BEING ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, IS PROBABLY A BETTER WAY OF GOING, GOING ABOUT DOING IT.

ALSO, IT'S, IT'S, UH, FOR CONNECTED TO HUBER HEIGHTS ONLY.

BUT IF THEY'RE THERE AT MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THEY NOTICE, LIKE IF THEY PUT SOMETHING ON THE BULLETIN BOARD MM-HMM.

, AND THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THEY'RE FROM HUBBERT.

BUT LIKE THE VFWS AND THE LIBRARIES.

BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF FACILITIES.

WE MAKE SURE WE GET BROCHURES UP THERE, LIKE THE POOL AND OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE.

YES, MA'AM.

THAT'D BE EASY ENOUGH TO DO.

AND THEN, UM, THERE ISN'T ANY, RICK, CAN WE PUT ON THE, WHAT DAY IS THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL DAY PROGRAM? WILL YOU LET RICK KNOW SO WE CAN PUT IT ON THE CITY WEBSITE? IT'S NOT ON THEIR CALENDAR YET.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, FRED, JUST ONE QUESTION.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I'VE BEEN KNOWING HIM SINCE HE WAS LIKE 15 .

UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

HOW MUCH ARE THE, UM, ARE THE PAVERS? DO YOU KNOW OFF HAND, ROUGHLY 25, I BELIEVE.

ONE 20, I'M SORRY, 1 25, I BELIEVE.

1 25.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AND I WILL COMMIT TO BUYING AT AT LEAST ONE.

I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT UNTIL JUST NOW.

AND I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR CONDOLENCES ON THE, UH, PASSING OF, UH, MY, UH, FATHER-IN-LAW.

UM, AND, AND I'VE JUST THOUGHT ABOUT, HE'S A VETERAN, SO LET ME GET A BREAK IN HIS HONOR.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, DON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WEB TRAFFIC, UH, ON, ON OUR CITY WEBSITE THAT, UM, WE'LL DRIVE THE KIND OF RESPONSE WE NEED FOR THE PAVER PROGRAM.

WHEN WE DID THE, UM, VETERANS MEMORIAL, I THINK WE ALL HAD A VISION OF, UH, THOSE PAVERS BEING SNAPPED UP LEFT AND RIGHT, THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE REALLY BE COMING FORWARD.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE, HAVE YOU, UM, HAVE YOU NOODLED ABOUT, UH, WITH THE COMMISSION, ANY OTHER IDEAS ON HOW TO PROMOTE BEYOND JUST SOCIAL MEDIA OR WEBSITE? SO, A COUPLE OF THE IDEAS THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, IS DOING THE, THE, UM, THE, WHAT'S THE WORD, UH, KIND OF PASSING THEM OUT TO, UH, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

WE'VE, LIKE I SAID, WE PUT 'EM IN THE LIBRARY, WE PUT 'EM IN, UM, UH, JUST OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT'S NOT REALLY DOING EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA DO.

UH, I THINK OUR NEXT BEST THING WILL BE TO TRY TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN KIND OF LIKE THE INNER SIDE OF THE CITY AS FAR AS I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO DOOR TO DOOR AND PASS 'EM OUT.

I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S FEASIBLE.

UH, BUT CERTAIN THINGS LIKE GOING TO, UM, THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE, MAYBE PASSING 'EM OUT DURING THERE, UH, JUST KIND OF PLACES WHERE, UH, THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE THINGS.

AND LIKE YOU SAY, I DON'T THINK THAT THE, UM, CITY'S WEBSITE IS PICKING UP AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS WE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD.

UH, PROBABLY ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO JUST THAT, THAT PARTICULAR THING.

AND WE, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER, RICK, UH, MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT THE, UH, GIGANTIC BILLBOARD ON BRENT AND, UH, SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY AND, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE DRIVE GOING HERE.

SO, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

HAVE YOU HIT ALL, ALL THE, UH, UH, MILITARY, LIKE THE, UH, W AMERICAN LEGION AND ALL OF THOSE? YES, MA'AM.

UM, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANYTHING POSTED AT THE SENIOR CENTER WHERE THERE ARE MANY, MANY, MANY VETERANS THERE.

SENIOR CENTER OR SENIOR CENTER.

THAT'S SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS WELL.

YOU'RE NOT OLD ENOUGH, BUT ONE OF US COULD PROBABLY HIT YOU ON .

TELL THAT TO MY BACK A COUPLE TIMES.

SO ONE LAST COMMENT IS NOT EVERYBODY'S TECH SAVVY, AND BY DIRECTING A COMMUNITY TO THE WEBSITE FOR UNSAVVY PEOPLE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL, JUST SOME PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA GO THERE.

SO IS THERE A WAY OF DOING THIS INDIGITAL? BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT USE COMPUTERS MAY BE PURCHASERS OF THESE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, LOOKED AT, WHICH IS WHY WE STARTED WITH THE FLYERS.

UM, BUT IT'S JUST THE, THE FACT OF GETTING THE FLYERS AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

PUT OUT AT THE LIBRARY, UH, WE DO NOTICE THAT THOSE ARE BEING TAKEN BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NO LONGER THERE.

UH, SO LIKE, LIKE I SAID, THE FLYERS THAT WE

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THEY'RE GONE.

UM, BUT WHAT'S BEING TAKEN AND THEN THE RESPONSE THAT WE'RE GETTING BACK REALLY ISN'T MATCHING UP.

SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY ON IF US AS THE COMMISSION CAN GO OUT TO, UM, AREAS THAT WE KNOW MAYBE THAT SUPPORT THE MILITARY AS FAR AS MILITARY DISCOUNTS AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT.

LIKE I KNOW, UM, LOWE'S IS ONE OF THE ONES, SO MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE OUR NEXT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IN OUR NEXT MEETING AS FAR AS GETTING OUT, UH, MAYBE NOT TO THE CITY LOCATIONS, BUT TO, UM, BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT WORKS.

AND THE OTHER COMMENT WAS, WHAT ABOUT GOING TO THE FUNERAL HOMES FOR THE MEMORIALS AND THEY COULD PASS THE FLYER TO THE FAMILIES IF THEY KNOW THEY'RE FROM HUBERT? I DON'T KNOW.

KIND OF DICEY.

I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO INTRUDE ON SOMEBODY'S FUNERAL WITH A, WITH A FLYER, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.

THANK YOU MAYOR RICK.

I, FRED JUST KIND OF MENTIONED HERE, I MEAN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD GO IN THE WATER BILL, I MEAN, NOW IT'S GONNA BE THE QUICKEST THING THIS WAY THAT'S GONNA GET TO EVERYBODY IN THE, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.

IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING, LET THEM KNOW WHO TO CALL IF THEY'RE INTERESTED.

IT DOESN'T GOTTA BE A, YOU KNOW, A $20 PRODUCED HIGH GLOSSY FLYER, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO GIVE THEM INSTRUCTION ON WHO TO CALL, WHERE TO GO IF THEY'RE INTERESTED.

UM, AND JUST GET IT IN THE WATER BELT.

AND THEN EVERYBODY WHO'S AT A RESIDENCE WHO PAYS THE WATER BILL IS GONNA GET THAT.

WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING SOME STUFF IN THE WATER BILL BEFORE, BUT I THINK IF ANYTHING IS GONNA GO IN THERE, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE.

LIEUTENANT COLONEL, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TOLD BY PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT SOLICITING FUNDS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE FUNERAL HOMES ARE VERY RECEPTIVE TO MAKING DONATIONS TO DIFFERENT CAUSES.

UH, WHETHER IT'S THIS PROGRAM OR WHETHER IT'S, UM, AND, AND THIS PROBABLY ISN'T RIGHT, BUT YOU MIGHT SUGGEST TO, UM, UH, THE CAPTAIN AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, LIEUTENANT COLONEL REDWOOD.

UH, THAT, UM, THEY MIGHT WANT TO PURSUE THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY PROBABLY HANDLE SERVICES FOR AN AWFUL LOT OF VETERANS.

AND THAT'S, FROM WHAT I CAN, OR WHAT I WAS TOLD ON ON THE LAST BRIEFING THAT WE HAD, IS THEIR IDEA WILL BE KIND OF IN THAT SAME BOAT, IS TO GO OUT TO THE, UM, COMMUNITIES OR GO OUT TO THE, UM, GO OUT TO THE, UH, STORES AND, AND ALL OF THAT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND TRY TO RECEIVE FUNDS THAT WAY.

SO, BUT FUNERAL HOMELESS ARE WILLING, BUT NOBODY FEELS, NOBODY'S WILLING TO MOTIVATED TO GO TO THEM.

SO, YEAH, I CAN PASS THAT ON TO THEM.

AND WE'VE GOT MARKER HELLER UP HERE.

WE'VE GOT NEWCOMER THAT HANDLE A LOT.

SO YEAH.

MARK, THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT.

HELLO.

OH, .

UM, HOW MANY PAVERS DO WE HAVE TO SELL AND HOW MUCH ARE THE PAVERS? SO THE PAVERS ARE 1 25.

UH, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE A LIMIT ON WHAT WE CAN SELL.

I THINK THAT WOULD KIND OF BE WHERE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ONCE WE GET THE, EVERYTHING ROLLING WITH IT.

ALRIGHT.

I BELIEVE CURRENTLY ON HAND WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 102 HUNDRED.

SO, UM, TO BE SOLD, AS THOSE 200 ARE ESTABLISHED AND PURCHASED, THE OTHER 200 WILL COME OUT.

AND SO AS THE PROGRAM, SO THERE IT IS A CONTINUAL REPLACEMENT PROGRAM IS HOW, IT'S, HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.

UM, AFTER THAT, UM, THERE ARE PLANS THAT AT THE, YOU KNOW, AS WE HOPED, AS MR. WEBB MENTIONED, UM, IN THE FUTURE AS FAR AS IT TAKING OFF, THERE ARE OTHER PLANS TO MAYBE FOR OTHER SECTIONS OF THE MEMORIAL ITSELF TO BE KIND OF UTILIZED IN THE SAME MANNER.

SO I THINK THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN WITH THE, WITH WHEN THE, WHEN THE DESIGN WAS THERE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, 200 FOR SALE.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

PER BRICK, AND THAT INCLUDES INSTALLATION.

AND I COULD GIVE YOU PRAISE FOR IT.

MY, UH, WIFE, UH, BOUGHT ONE OF THE PAPERS FOR YOUR, ONE OF HER UNCLES WHO DIED IN SERVICE.

VERY NICELY DONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S FOR SOMEBODY DIED FOR OUR SERVICE, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO MEMORIALIZE 'EM.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE? CAN I HAVE ONE, ONE COMMENT FOR THOSE LISTENING IN? YES, YOU CAN GO TO THE HH.ORG WEBSITE AND TYPE IN THE WORD PAVER IN THE SEARCH BAR AND IT WILL TAKE YOU RIGHT TO IT.

AND YES, THEY ARE ONLY $125

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THIS HAS BEEN A PAID IN THAT NOTES .

IT'S A GOOD SEGUE RIGHT THERE.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM THREE C, WHICH IS CITY STAFFING LEVELS FOR OUR TABLES OF ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

[ City Staffing Levels/Table Of Organization]

KATIE? YES.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UM, SO THE LEGISLATION BEFORE YOU IS OUR, UH, PERSONAL STAFFING LEVELS AND THE AMENDMENTS WE'D LIKE TO MAKE TO THIS LEGISLATION TONIGHT FOR MONDAY EVENING, UM, APPROVAL WOULD BE THE PARKS AND PARKS MANAGER HAS REQUESTED A NEW FULL-TIME POSITION.

UM, IT WOULD BE AN EVENT AND PROGRAM COORDINATOR, SO THAT WOULD BE FULL-TIME.

AND RIGHT NOW, FOR THIS YEAR, UM, WHAT SHE'D LIKE TO DO IS POSSIBLY MAKE THAT AN INTERN POSITION TO KIND OF SEE HOW IT WORKS AND KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT FULL-TIME POSITION WILL COME TO EFFECT FULLY NEXT YEAR.

SO SHE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

UM, UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE ALSO FOUR SEASONAL, UM, SHE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE TWO OF THOSE SEASONALS AND MAKE THEM JUST FOR MAINTENANCE.

AND THE OTHER TWO SEASONALS, SHE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEM HELP THE EVENT COORDINATOR PERSON, WHOEVER THAT MIGHT BE, UM, TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE SUPPORT TO HELP THAT, HELP THOSE EVENTS AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY.

UM, AND ALSO CHIEF NICELEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, RECOMMEND A NEW, AND I, I BELIEVE HE'S BEEN TO COUNCIL BEFORE AND DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU GUYS.

UM, HE WOULD LIKE TO START AN APPRENTICE PROGRAM.

SO, AND I ATTACH THIS IF TO THE LEGISLATION, IF YOU GUYS, IF YOU SAW IT.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY.

SO THE APPRENTICE PROGRAM WOULD START WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT WERE GOING INTO THEIR SENIOR YEAR THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BECOMING A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC.

SO HE WOULD TAKE THREE, IT IS A THREE PERSON PROGRAM.

AND THEN THAT WHEN THEY'RE FINISHED WITH THAT, THEY WOULD MOVE INTO THE INTERN POSITION, WHICH WE WOULD MAKE THAT A PAID POSITION, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON LEGISLATION AFTER THIS.

AND THEN A, FROM THE INTERN, HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC RECRUIT, WHICH THE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC RECRUIT WOULD BE A LEVEL TWO FIREFIGHTER GOING TO SCHOOL WHILE WORKING FULL-TIME, GETTING FULL-TIME BENEFITS TO BECOME THAT FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC.

SO TO HOPEFULLY FILL THOSE POSITIONS, HE KIND OF WANTS TO START WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AND GO ON.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT FOR AS A RECRUIT PROGRAM.

UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A PROCESS, AN ELIGIBILITY LIST RIGHT NOW, WHICH WE DO HAVE A COUPLE ON THE LIST WHO ARE NOT PARAMEDICS YET WHO ARE IN CLASS, WHO HE WOULD LIKE TO USE FOR THIS.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF POSSIBLY GET THIS STARTED NOW IF, IF APPROVED ON MONDAY.

UM, HE THINKS IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, WHICH I THINK CITY MANAGER ALSO AGREES THAT HIRING WE ALL KNOW IS NOT THE EASIEST RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'D BE EASY, HOPEFULLY EASIER TO GET PEOPLE IN THE DOOR AND GET THEM INTO OUR POSITIONS.

UM, SO I HAVE THAT INCLUDED.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL TRY ANSWER THEM, WHATEVER YOU HAVE THIS EVENING ON THAT PROGRAM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, UM, THAT IS ALL THE STAFFING LEVELS FOR THAT LEGISLATION.

THANKS, KATIE.

I THINK JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS CLEARLY, I THINK, UH, WELL, I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.

I THINK THE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS FINDING QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE WE'VE HAD GOING, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK, THAT'S NOT NOTHING NEW FOR US THAT'S GONE BACK, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, FILLING THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE, AND IT'S NOT EVEN, IT'S NOT JUST IN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT'S ALSO IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE FINDING QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO START THAT PROCESS AND GET PEOPLE INTERESTED, UM, IN HUBER HEIGHTS AND WORKING FOR HUBER HEIGHTS EARLIER, THE, THE BETTER.

UM, SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT ISN'T, CERTAINLY FROM OUR LACK OF WANTING TO HIRE QUALIFIED PEOPLE FOR THESE POSITIONS, IT'S THE MATTER OF THE LACK OF AVAILABILITY OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE FOR OUR POSITION.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I CERTAINLY WOULD SUPPORT THIS NANCY.

UH, I SUPPORT IT TOO.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

THEY'RE ON A PATH THAT, THAT THEY DESIRE TO TAKE.

UM, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, UM, ON THE POSITIONS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE PARK MANAGER WANTED MM-HMM .

THOSE ARE ALREADY, UM, THE, THE TEMPORARY POSITIONS ARE THE, THOSE ARE ALREADY AUTHORIZED.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR ONE FULL TIME.

ONE ONE FULL TIME.

ONE FULL TIME, WHICH WILL PROBABLY FILL WITH AN INTERN YET THIS YEAR.

UM, AND THEN NEXT YEAR, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE A FULL FLEDGED, FULL-TIME POSITION.

AND THEN THE FOUR SEASONALS ARE ALREADY THERE.

WE'RE JUST MAKING THEM SEPARATE, BUT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE OUR APPROVAL.

THE FULL-TIME DOES THE FULL-TIME DOES, BUT THE OTHER ONES DON'T.

I'M JUST BASICALLY RENAMING THEM AND IT'S IN THE SNAPPING LEVEL.

WE'RE JUST LEGISLATION, SO.

SO COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

AND I DID, I'M SORRY.

NO, GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

UM, SO WITH THE UM, FIREFIGHTER PROGRAM RECRUIT PROGRAM, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, WE DID, UM, THERE IS IT THE ACCRUED PAID VACATION PERSONALLY THAT IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT REGULAR FULL-TIME

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POSITIONS HAVE.

SO THAT'S MAINLY WHY THIS IS COMING TO YOU ALSO BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE ACCRUAL RATES, UM, AND THE PAY FOR THIS.

SO THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THAT'S ON A DIFFERENT PAY SCALE.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE NEXT LEGISLATION, IT'S UNDER THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

WITH THE CAPTAIN AND THE BATTALION CHIEFS.

THANK YOU MAYOR KATIE, COULD YOU TELL ME, CAN YOU QUANTIFY IF THEY'RE GONNA GO TO SCHOOL? DO WE, THEY TAKE 18 MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

WE'RE GONNA WORK FOR US FOR 18 MONTHS, LIKE THEY DO AT THE HOSPITALS.

SO YES.

SO THE FULL-TIME FOR THE RECRUIT RECRUIT POSITION? YES.

SO THEY WILL BE ENROLLED.

THEY HAVE TO BE ENROLLED INTO SCHOOL.

SO HOWEVER, THE PERIOD OF TIME IT TAKES THEM TO DO THAT, THEY WILL GO TO SCHOOL DURING WORK HOURS.

SO THEY'RE GETTING PAID.

WE'RE GONNA PAY THEM.

THAT'S FINE.

THEY'LL COME AND WORK HERE ON THEIR DAYS THAT THEY'RE NOT, WHETHER IT'S, UM, RICK, I FORGET, DID HE SAY IT'S A 24 48 SCHEDULE? YEAH.

SO A 53 HOUR WORK WEEK.

SO ON THEIR DAYS THEY DON'T HAVE CLASS OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THEY WILL WORK FOR US.

UM, THEY WILL DO THEIR CLINICALS HERE, SO EVERYTHING WILL BE HERE.

BUT WHEN THEY'RE IN CLASS, THEY WILL GO TO CLASS DURING THOSE HOURS.

AND WILL THEY BE RETAINED BY US FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO WORK OFF AT SCHOOL DEBT OR, YES.

HOPEFULLY THEY'RE JUST HIRED AS FULL-TIME FT.

BUT HOPEFULLY .

AND HE HAS HERE AT THE BOTTOM WHERE, UM, THEY WILL STAY WITH US UNTIL THERE IS AN OPENING.

SO THE IDEA IS WITH RETIREMENTS AND WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE LEAVING, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL FALL INTO PLACE AND THOSE, AND THOSE POSITIONS WILL BE OPEN AND THEY CAN WALK RIGHT INTO THOSE, UM, AS WE POST INTERNALLY.

I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL.

I'VE ASKED FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND NEXT IS ITEM 3D, WHICH IS THE CITY SALARY RANGES.

HE'S EXCITED.

PLEASE THANK THE CHIEF.

I WILL.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY.

[ City Salary Ranges/Wage Levels]

RANGES AND WAGE LEVELS.

KATE? YES.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, UM, AMENDING THIS WOULD BE ADDING THE INTERN, I'VE ADDED IT IN HERE TO A, A RATE UP TO $20 AN HOUR.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AT $20 AN HOUR.

THEY'RE GONNA COME IN UP TO THAT AMOUNT.

SO IT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN, WE'LL SAY 10 AND $20.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS FOR.

UH, YOU'LL SEE UNDER THE PUBLIC SAFETY, THE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC RECRUIT, UH, 15% BELOW A STEP ONE FIREFIGHTER.

UM, CHIEF KNISELY HAS KIND OF DONE SOME RESEARCH AROUND THE AREA TO KIND OF SEE WHERE FIREFIGHTER EMTS ARE.

'CAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS POSITION IS OR THIS PERSON WOULD BE.

UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE, WE LANDED WITH THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE ADDED THE FULL-TIME PARKS POSITION.

UM, THE EVENT AND PROGRAM COORDINATOR.

IT'S IN PAY GRADE 30.

AND WE ALSO SPLIT OUT, UM, THE TRANSITIONAL AND PAID INTERN POSITIONS IN SECTION I AND K.

SO WE JUST SEPARATED THOSE.

SO THEY'RE JUST SEPARATE.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT ALL THAT WAS.

I DID FORGET TO MENTION, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION, I APOLOGIZE, THE SEASONALS, WE CHANGED THE NUMBER OF SEASONALS TO BASICALLY HOURS.

SO IF THEY CAN WORK 2000 HOURS, IS THERE MAX, SHE CAN HIRE 10 PEOPLE ONLY UP TO THAT MANY HOURS.

'CAUSE BASICALLY IT COMES DOWN TO IF YOU HIRE TWO PEOPLE, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO WORK CERTAIN HOURS THAT SHE NEEDS.

SO TO GET OTHER PEOPLE TO GET MORE COVERAGE, SHE'S GOING TO DO BY HOURS INSTEAD OF BY PEOPLE.

IF THAT, I APOLOGIZE, I MISSED THAT.

THAT'S OKAY.

BUT THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, SALARY RANGES? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS? GREAT.

IS ITEM THREE E, WHICH IS DISPOSAL OF SURPLUS VEHICLES.

[ Disposal Of Surplus Vehicles]

MIKE? UH, YES.

BASICALLY THIS IS, UM, THE CORNER OF OUR, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE'RE, UM, DOING WITH, UM, OUR CURRENT, UH, ENTERPRISE PROGRAM THAT WE, UM, PURCHASING VEHICLES THROUGH.

UM, THESE ARE FOR THE SMALLER WHEEL VEHICLES.

UM, THESE ARE COVERING THREE PUBLIC WORK VEHICLES BE REPLACED THIS YEAR.

AND ALSO A PD.

HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS THIS TIME.

SO THESE ARE ALL JUST, WE'RE JUST REPLACING THESE THROUGH OUR FLEET PROGRAM? YEAH, JUST THE ROTATION WE WENT THROUGH.

UM, AS I EXPLAINED, I THINK WE WENT THIS A WHILE AGO, I'M SORRY, UM, A WHILE AGO IT WAS, UM, NOW WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE ENTERPRISE PURCHASING OF EVERYONE'S, WE'RE ALMOST GETTING ALL ENTERPRISE VEHICLES, SO OKAY.

THIS WILL START TO CHANGE AS FAR AS HAVING VEHICLES, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

ANY QUESTIONS SCOTT? I DON'T THINK IT'S MIKE WAS ON FOR ONLINE TO HEAR.

HE DOESN'T HAVE ALL, WE DON'T HAVE ONE.

IT'S RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS PART OF THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM.

IT'S NOT MOTION ENOUGH.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

WE HEAR YOU.

THAT'S ALRIGHT.

MIKE, JUST, UH, REPEAT THAT AGAIN JUST FOR THIS, EVERYONE WHO'S ING? YEP.

GOTCHA.

BASICALLY

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EVERYBODY ELSE CAN JUST DO THIS IN, IN THE SENSE THAT THIS IS THE ROTATION PROCESS THAT WE WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH PURCHASING OUR CURRENT, UH, VEHICLES THAT WE USE FOR SMALL WHEEL VEHICLES, UH, MOVING FORWARD TO, UM, REPLACEMENT OF, UM, VEHICLES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY USING.

ITEM THREE F NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION FACILITY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

[ New Public Works Division Facility - Award Contract]

AND THIS IS AWARDED THE CONTRACT, MIKE? UH, YES.

BASICALLY THIS IS, UM, AWARDING THE, UM, BID THAT WE RECENTLY RECEIVED ON MARCH 26TH FOR THE BUILDING AND, UM, AWARDING THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, UM, LOCATED AT TAYLORSVILLE WILDCAT ROAD.

UM, THAT'S A RENDERING WITH WE HAVE THERE FOR IT.

UM, MOVING FORWARD.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THIS IS FOR THE D CONSTRUCTION? CORRECT.

RICK, WE HAD A CONVERSATION REGARDING, UM, OVERALL COST AND VERSUS KINDA WHAT I THINK THE NUMBER THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS.

AND THEN THERE WAS A NUMBER THAT THAT'S PUBLISHED HERE.

IS SOME OF THAT, UH, NOT TO EXCEED BECAUSE WE'VE GOT CONTINGENCY BUILT IN THERE, BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING THE ACTUAL YEAH, THE, THE BID CAME IN AT, AT, UH, EIGHT 18.8 MILLION.

UM, WE DID BUILD INTO A CONTINGENCY THAT BROUGHT US UP NEAR 21 MILLION.

UM, THAT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THINGS COME UP, UM, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

UH, NO GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL REACH 21 MILLION, BUT, UM, THAT IS ABOUT A 20% CONTINGENCY.

15, WHAT DO YOU THINK? 20.

TYPICAL BUILT IN CONTINGENCY FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

SO THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, BRIAN? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? ONCE IT'S APPROVED AND EVERYTHING, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO BUILD THAT? THE BUILD ON DATE'S? 450 DAYS FROM DATE OF START? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

IF TODAY WOULD BE JULY 10TH.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME AWARDING, MOVING FORWARD SOMETIME IN JULY OR AUGUST OF 25.

MOVING MEANS STARTING IN JULY MM-HMM.

OR FINISHING, IF WE START TOMORROW, IT'D BE JULY 10TH OF 25.

WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA START TOMORROW.

THEY'RE GONNA START THE DAY WE APPROVE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SO NEXT YEAR, SOMETIME IN JULY OR AUGUST OF 25.

SO DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM, ON THE, I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT WE, WE WE WILL HIRE TO DO THIS WORK, BUT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, WHO'S MANAGING THE ACTUAL PROJECT TO HELP ENSURE WE DON'T HAVE COST OVERRUNS AND, AND ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS? I MEAN, ON A PROJECT THAT BIG, I KNOW ULTIMATELY THAT COMES DOWN TO, TO YOU RICK, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT MANAGING THAT PROJECT, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY.

I MEAN, HOW, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING, UM, THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE BUILD OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE ACTUAL BID PRO BID PROCESS WAS? AND I'M GONNA LEAN ON RUSS A LITTLE BIT FOR THIS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENGINEERING TECHNICIANS THAT HANDLE MOST OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL.

BUT WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT, RUSS? UH, YEAH, COONEY ARCHITECTS IS HANDLING MOST OF THAT.

JOHN, I THINK IT'S JOHN WALLEN CAMP, UH, IS COMING IN, UH, FOR I THINK FOR PROGRESS MEETINGS EVERY, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S EVERY TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I BELIEVE.

BECAUSE I KNOW, I MEAN, WE DEALT WITH THIS THE SAME THING WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, I MEAN, OVER THE SUMMER WHEN I COULD BE THERE.

I MEAN, I WAS AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROJECT MEETINGS OUT AT THE ACTUAL SITE WHERE THAT WAS GOING ON, WHERE WE MET WITH THE DESIGNER, WE WENT WITH THE ARCHITECT, WE MET WITH, YOU KNOW, EACH, EACH ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT WAS, THAT WAS DOING THAT.

AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, PROJECT DATES, YOU KNOW, DEADLINES.

WE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT, YOU KNOW, LEADING UP INTO THE, THE PROCESS OF THE, OF HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT TO DATE.

I MEAN, WE WERE, WE WERE MANAGING THAT, THAT PROJECT AND THAT WAS JUST A, AN 800,000 PROJECT.

AND WE WERE DOING THAT EVERY, EVERY OTHER WEEK.

SO ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EXACT TYPE TYPE OF THING IS HAPPENING AND THE CITY IS BEING REPRESENTED OUTSIDE OF JUST THE, THE BID PROCESS, RIGHT? YEAH, WE, WE, WE WILL BE DOING PROGRESS MEETINGS.

I KNOW IT'S FAIRLY OFTEN, SO WE'LL ALL BE INVOLVED IN IT.

UM, MIKE AND I WILL BE ALONG WITH THE ARCHITECT.

IF, IF WE COULD BE BRIEFED ON THOSE MILESTONES, UH, TO LET US KNOW THAT WE'VE HIT THEM, WE'RE AHEAD OF 'EM, WE'RE BEHIND, UH, AND, AND LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, UM, COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHERE WE ARE, IF WE'RE WHERE WE'RE RUNNING, AS OPPOSED TO WHERE WE SHOULD BE.

I THINK, AND, AND WHAT I WOULD ASK WOULD BE AS WE HAVE THOSE PROGRESS MEETINGS ON A, ON A PROJECT, THE SIZE THAT WE DO GET REGULAR UPDATES BACK TO COUNCIL THAT WE ARE ON, ON TRACK FROM A BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE, ANY COST OVERRUNS WE SEE ANY CHANGE ORDER.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ON A REGULAR BASIS AS THOSE PROJECT UPDATES ARE HAPPENING.

YES, NANCY? YES.

UM, AND I'M SURE THAT KUNI IS GONNA GIVE YOU A MILESTONE CHART OR A SCHEDULE WITH MILESTONES.

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I THINK THAT IT WOULD HELP, NOT JUST FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT FOR WHEN WE BUILD A GOVERNANCE CENTER, EVEN AS WE'RE RENOVATING THE SINCLAIR FACILITY, WE HAVE A TARGET DATE THAT WE'RE GONNA END.

AND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THERE'S MILESTONES AND, AND IF WE CAN BE KEPT ABREAST OF THOSE MILESTONE STATUS, THAT WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY.

THANKS NANCY.

SCOTT, I'LL COME BACK TO MARK.

COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS LEGISLATION ON MONDAY BECAUSE THIS IS A, A ONCE IN A LIFETIME BUILDING FOR, UH, MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA BE WORKING THERE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF MIKE WOULD KNOW THIS, I GUESS WHEN THE PROJECT STARTED, WHAT DOES THIS, ABOUT 10 TO 13 MILLION IS THE PRICE WENT UP SO MUCH JUST BECAUSE THE LAST THREE YEARS OF MATERIALS? OR IS THAT THE, THE MAIN THING? I, I DON'T REMEMBER THE 10 AND 13 MILLION FOR, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THAT NUMBER SAID, UM, I'D SAY WITH INFLATION THAT THAT NUMBER'S INFLATED.

UM, DUE TO, YOU KNOW, THE PAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS IS INFLATED.

I SAY, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 40%.

UM, BUT ALSO SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS THAT, I MEAN, THAT HAVE BEEN TOSSED AROUND THAT I'VE HEARD WERE NUMBERS FROM ALONG, YOU KNOW, A, A TIME AGO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DISCUSSING EVEN BUILDING A PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

SO THOSE NUMBERS THAT I THINK THAT HAVE BEEN TOSSED AROUND FOR SOME TIME OR, OR OLDER NUMBERS THAN, THAN WAS ANTICIPATED AND WE FINALLY DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITHIN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, I THINK ABOUT IT PROBABLY WASN'T FOR THIS BUILDING.

IT WAS PROBABLY A, A GENERAL BUILDING.

IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? YEAH, BRIAN, BRIAN CAN SPEAK ON THAT AS WELL.

SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE BUDGET, WHEN THE INITIAL STUDY CAME OUT, WHEN THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT, I BELIEVE IT WAS, CAME OUT IN, I WANNA SAY IT WAS 2020, UH, MR. FALKOWSKI WAS HERE, UH, IN SUPERVISING, UH, THE PUBLIC SERVICE DIVISION.

AND THAT WAS FOR, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS A 53,000 CONCEPTUAL SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

$10 MILLION, UH, WAS THE NUMBER THAT WAS INITIALLY PROVIDED TO THE ART BY, UH, BY COONEY AT THAT TIME.

SO IT WAS KIND OF A CONCEPTUAL PLACEHOLDER IN SPACE IF, IF ALL OTHER FACTORS ARE NOT, UH, CONSIDERED.

UH, THEN AS THAT PROJECT MOVED FORWARD THROUGH TIME, UH, EFFECTIVELY WE WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT 12, 12.5% COST INCREASES ANNUALLY AS A RESULT OF COVID AND SUPPLY SHIPMENT DELAYS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO FAMILIAR WITH.

NOW, UH, WHEN WE GOT TO THE, UH, BUDGET PROCESS FOR WHAT WOULD BE 2023, I BELIEVE WE WERE LOOKING AROUND 14 MILLION I THINK WAS THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED THE PROJECT TO BE RIGHT BEFORE WE WENT TO BID, UH, THE FIRST TIME, UH, THERE WERE PROJECTS THAT WERE SIMILARLY LET IN BUTLER TOWNSHIP AND OR BUTLER TOWNSHIP, BUTLER COUNTY, AND FAYETTE COUNTY.

AND, UH, THOSE FACILITIES WERE, UH, HAD ENGINEERS ESTIMATES IN, I WANNA SAY 17 MILLION, 18 MILLION.

UH, WE RECEIVED ONE BID, UH, IN OUR FIRST, UH, IN OUR FIRST RELEASE.

AND THAT CAME BACK AT 21 MILLION.

UH, AND WE DID, UH, WE DID SOME EVALUATION, WE DID SOME, SOME RE-LOOK AT THAT.

AND, UH, WE RELEASED THE BID AT 17, I THINK 17 POINT A HALF MILLION WAS THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE ON THE SECOND GO ROUND.

SO TO BE IN AT 18 EIGHT WAS STILL A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT, BUT IT WAS STILL WITHIN THE REALM OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER THAT STARTED, YOU KNOW, AT A THIN AIR, UH, IN A PERFECT WORLD FROM FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO, UH, TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UH, IS IT A NUMBER THAT HISTORICALLY IS IN AN ESCALATION THAT HISTORICALLY WE WOULD SEE OVER TIME? NO, IT IS NOT.

BUT BASED ON THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING IN THAT POST COVID WORLD, UH, THAT NUMBER IS THE NUMBER THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, TO WORK WITH.

I'D ALSO NOTE THAT, UM, THIS IS, UH, AT LEAST IN OUR LIFETIME, IT'S A ONCE IN A LIFETIME BUILDING.

THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE A FUNCTIONAL PIECE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

AND IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND DO IT RIGHT, NOT JUST FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT FOR OUR STAFF, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT THIS BUILDING TOGETHER THE BEST WAY WE KNOW HOW, UH, AND WE DESIGN IT TO BE USED THE WAY WE WANT IT TO BE USED, EVEN IF THAT MIGHT BE MORE, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE INITIALLY INTENDED.

I'M SURE THAT WHEN WE HIRED, UM, ALL OF OUR OUTSTANDING FOLKS OVER IN PUBLIC SERVICE, WE DID NOT MARKET, UH, THE, UH, THE DUCK POND ON THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING, ALTHOUGH IT'S AN ADDED AMENITY TODAY, .

UM, THAT'S NOT HOW WE MARKETED, UH, OUR FACILITY.

AND SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE ARE LEARNED FROM THAT ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED INTO THIS BUILDING.

SO, UH, WHILE WE TOO, WERE A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE PRICING DIDN'T MATCH WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY HOPED, UH, MR. DAVIDSON, UH, WE THINK IT'S AN ACCEPTABLE PRICE AND WE WOULD WOULD ENCOURAGE

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THANKS, BRIAN.

HOW MANY, UH, SQUARE FOOT IS THIS ONE? I'M SORRY, ONE MORE TIME, SIR.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SQUARE FOOT, UH, TOTAL THIS BUILDING IS 53,000 IN THE MAIN FACILITY.

IT ALSO INCLUDES, UM, A NEW, UH, FUEL STATION AND A NEW SALT BARN.

THE ONLY FACILITY WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LOCATE, UH, ON THIS GROUNDS, UH, IS OFF SEASONAL STORAGE.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE TO USE, UH, SOME OF OUR EXISTING FACILITIES FOR THE OFF SEASON STORAGE.

BUT, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE RELOCATED TO THIS SITE.

SO I REMEMBER BACK THAT WAS FIRST ELECTED, I DID A, IN 2018, I MET WITH MIKE OVER AT THE CURRENT PLACE.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET A TOUR OF THE DUCK POND, BUT, UM, WE WENT THROUGH THERE AND I REMEMBER ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT MIKE AND I HAD, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN OVER SIX YEARS AGO, WAS JUST THE LACK OF SPACE AND LACK OF ROOM FOR THE STAFF TO EVEN HAVE A MEETING OVER THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THAT SPACE WHERE JUST THE MECHANICS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON SITE THERE COULD ACTUALLY GO INTO A MEETING ROOM AND HAVE A MEETING REGARDING THE THINGS OR THE TOPICS OF THE DAY, THE STUFF THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

SO FOR QUITE SOME TIME WE'VE KNOWN THAT WE NEED A NEW FACILITY.

WE PUT THIS KIND OF IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

I THINK BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS LATER WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION THAT CAME, WE, WE LOOKED AT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

WHAT WHAT WOULD FIT ON DIFFERENT PIECES OF PROPERTY.

UH, AND I THINK THOSE INITIAL ASSESSMENTS, INITIAL NUMBERS SEEMS LIKE, I REMEMBER SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, WE, WE HEARD OF KIND BETWEEN 10 TO $15 MILLION AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BACK IN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY BACK IN 2020.

BUT THERE, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WE NEED THE SPACE.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THE EMPLOYEES NEED THE SPACE.

THERE'S NO DOUBT WE NEED MORE EMPLOYEES, BUT IF WE HIRED MORE EMPLOYEES THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT 'EM, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR 'EM TO GO TO WORK.

SO, UM, I, I APPRECIATE BRIAN'S PERSPECTIVE OF, OF SAYING THIS IS A MAJOR PIECE OR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE UTILIZED OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, I THINK IT IS NEEDED.

UM, IT IS EXPENSIVE, BUT IT IS NEEDED AND, UH, AND WE'VE KNOWN FOR QUITE SOME TIME THAT WE NEED IT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ROOM AND THE SPACE TO ADEQUATELY TAKE CARE OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND OUR EMPLOYEES THAT, THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

AND ESPECIALLY IF WE KNOW WE NEED, IF WE KNOW WE NEED MORE WHERE WE'RE AT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT 'EM.

SO, UM, SO YEAH.

NANCY, UH, MIKE, ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE THE CURRENT BUILDING BEHIND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? UH, YES.

THAT, THAT SITE WE CURRENTLY USE AS A SATELLITE FOR, UM, OFFSITE STORAGE.

UM, OKAY, SO SEASONAL OPERATIONS.

SO WILL YOU BE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF YOUR OFFSITE STORAGE INTO THAT AREA? YES, THAT'S THE PLAN.

I SAID, UH, TO, TO REITERATE A LITTLE BIT WHAT BRIAN AND MAYOR SAID IS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RELATE THIS TO BUYING YOUR FIRST HOME.

UH, WE HAVE ONE, WE ALL GREW IT.

UM, WE NEED A SECOND HOME.

WE, AND THIS WILL LAST US FOR LIKE, LIKE BRIAN SAID, A LIFETIME AND FI THIS, THE, THE PLAN FOR THIS IS 30 YEARS.

I, I, WITH THE SATELLITE PLAN IT FOR 50.

SO I'LL BE .

NOPE, NOBODY DOUBTS, WE'LL BE GONE.

WE NEED THIS.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'LL LAST THAT LONG FOR SURE.

AND BE UTILIZED THAT MUCH.

MARK, EVEN WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING AND, AND BEEN SPOKE OF, MIKE YES SIR.

WE'VE GOT AT LEAST 10 YEARS OUT OF THE EXISTING FACILITY BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, BRIAN, WHAT WAS, UH, TALKED ABOUT WAS PROBABLY, UH, AN OWNER'S REP OR A PROJECT MANAGER THAT THE MAYOR HAD ORIGINALLY SPOKE ABOUT, CORRECT? YES.

UH, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT THAT'S GOING TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THAT, UH, CORRECT.

SO WE WILL UTILIZE IN THE MORE, UH, WE'LL UTILIZE CITY STAFF IN A MORE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION.

SO MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, UM, UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURES BEING PUT IN, IN THE GROUND.

SO SEVERAL MEMBERS OF RUSS'S TEAM, UM, FOLKS OUTTA ENGINEERING AS WELL AS MIKE AND HIS GROUP, THEY'LL BE THE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, DAY TO DAY ON SITE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, QUANTITIES IN CONSTRUCTION ARE STAYING CLOSE TO SCHEDULE.

WHEN WE RUN INTO SOME OF THE MORE, UH, PERHAPS MAYBE COMPLICATED ISSUES THAT MIGHT DEVELOP AT A SITE, UH, THAT'S WHEN OUR REPS WILL BE THERE TO HELP, UH, FACILITATE WHAT SOLUTIONS AND OUTCOMES WILL BE TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES AND KEEP THOSE PROJECTS ON TRACK.

SO IT'LL BE A TEAM EFFORT FROM BOTH INTERNAL AND

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EXTERNAL SOURCES.

YOU KNOW, WE PAYING A FEE PER DOLLAR OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO HAVE SOME OF THAT DONE THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL.

UH, YES, IN BOTH INSTANCES, THAT IS PART OF THE FEE THAT WE'VE PAID TO BOTH COONEY AND NEXT UP WITH LWC, THAT IS PART OF THEIR FEES THAT COUNCIL'S ALREADY APPROVED.

AND HAS THAT BEEN NEGOTIATED DUE TO THE FACT THAT OUR TEAM'S GOING TO BE ASSISTING AS WELL? UH, YES IT HAS BEEN.

SO CONTI CONDITIONS WERE CONSIDERED FOR THAT FEE.

SO I WOULD POINT EVERYONE'S ATTENTION TO MION MEADOWS.

AND THE RETAIL CENTER THAT WAS, UH, REFURBISHED, I THINK THE FIRST, UH, BID CAME IN AT 5 MILLION AND I THINK BRIAN, WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP, IT CAME IN AT TWO AND THE ROAD THAT'S BEING INSTALLED ON THAT PROPERTY IS BEING OVERSEEN AND MANAGED BY STAFF.

UH, YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

THE TEAM THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, RUSS, MIKE, YOURSELF, THAT IS CORRECT.

SO WE'VE CUT A LOT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST OUT OF PROJECTS LIKE CITY HALL.

I THINK THE, UH, OWNER'S REP WAS TOM DES AT THE TIME AND WE'RE TAKING ON SOME OF THAT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A HYBRID WHERE YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING OR EMPLOYING AN ARCHITECT AS NECESSARY.

SO IS THAT BASICALLY THE MODEL AND IS IT GOING TO, IN YOUR OPINION, WORK AS SUCCESSFUL ON THIS PROJECT THAT IT IS AT MION MEADOWS? UH, I BELIEVE IT IS, YES.

UM, THE COMBINATION MODEL I THINK WORKS WELL BECAUSE, UH, TO US IT'S A PERSONAL PROJECT.

IT'S A PASSIONATE PROJECT.

THIS MEANS SOMETHING TO ALL OF US.

UM, YOU KNOW, MIKE AND HIS TEAM, UH, VERY ADAMANT, UH, AND VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN OVER THERE.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE TEAM BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE CRITICAL EYES ON IT.

UH, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY TECHNICAL EXPERTISE THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DESIGN THESE BUILDINGS.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA RELY ON OUR, OUR, OUR ASSOCIATES AT COY AND AT LWC TO HELP TRANSLATE OUR PASSION AND OUR CONCERN FOR WHAT THESE END PRODUCTS ARE GOING TO BE, UM, INTO DELIVERABLE MESSAGE FOR THE CONTRACTOR.

SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET A VERY GOOD PRODUCT.

UM, SO IT'S A NEW WAY OF DOING BUSINESS, BUT IT'S ONE THAT WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE AT, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

CORRECT.

I THINK IT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO BUSINESS 'CAUSE IT'S PERSONAL TO US.

UH, YOU TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT FACILITY HAVING A DUCK POND.

ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT A ROOF THAT'S LEAKING? UH, YEAH, THE, THE, WE HAVE SOME, SOME WATER RETAINAGE UP ON THE ROOF YES.

AT THAT FACILITY.

SO YES, SO THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A BUILDING, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE, IS GONNA NEED SOME MONEY INVESTED.

UH, YEAH, THE INTENT IS THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO BUILDINGS ON SITE BEHIND, UH, STATION 22.

ONE IS THE, UH, WE'LL CALL IT THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING.

THAT'S THE OLDER ONE THAT, UH, THAT UH, HAS ALL OF OUR, OUR LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND HAS DEVELOPED A STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCIES.

THAT BUILDING WILL MOST LIKELY BE RAISED AND THAT THOSE FUNDS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE BUDGET, MOST LIKELY IN, UH, PROBABLY THE 26TH BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T VACATE UNTIL 25.

SO WE'LL DEMO THE BUILDING, THE OFFICE BUILDING, UM, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING IN 26, BUT THE POLE BARN, WHICH IS MUCH NEWER AND IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE, THAT'S THE ACTUAL STORAGE FACILITY THAT WE WOULD HOLD ONTO.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO CLEAR UP QUITE A BIT OF SPACE BACK THERE, NOT JUST, UH, UH, TO BENEFIT OUR ABILITY TO OPERATE EFFECTIVELY ON THE PUBLIC SERVICE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, BUT TO HELP, UH, CHIEF LEY AND THE REST OF THE FIRE CREWS OUT THERE BE ABLE TO MANAGE, UH, AND EFFECTIVELY OPERATE ON THAT SPACE AS WELL.

SO AT THE NEW LOCATION, YES.

IF WE WANTED TO INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL FACILITY FOR THE SEASONAL EQUIPMENT, IS THERE THE SPACE? UH, YES, THERE IS.

UH, ONE OF THE, UH, EFFECTIVELY WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IS THE CITY WOULD NEED TO EXCAVATE EAST INTO THE HILL BANK.

AND, UH, WE DIDN'T VIEW THE COST BENEFIT, UH, OF HAVING TO DO THAT, UM, WORTH PURSUING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

BUT IF WE EVER NEEDED TO EXPAND ON THIS BIT ON THIS SITE, WE DO HAVE AN ABILITY TO DO THAT.

IT WOULD JUST REQUIRE US TO, TO DO SOME SIGNIFICANT EARTH WORK AND, AND SOME ADDITIONAL RETAINING WORK, SITE WORK.

AND, AND THE SITE WORK WOULD PROBABLY BE CHEAPER FOR TWO REASONS, AS DEMONSTRATED EARLIER, PRICES ARE GOING UP EACH YEAR.

CORRECT.

AND IF THE EQUIPMENT IS THERE AT THE NEW FACILITY, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL SITE WORK, CORRECT.

DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR.

UH, I WOULD CHALLENGE STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THAT, MIKE, THIS SEASONAL EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA STORE OFFSITE IS GOING TO BE LABOR INTENSE.

HOW LABOR INTENSE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS EFFICIENT OR PROFICIENT AS IF THERE WAS A, AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING AT THE NEW LOCATION.

I, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

HAVE BUDGETED, ERECTING ANOTHER, BUILDING AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I WOULD CHALLENGE STAFF THAT WE MIGHT INCORPORATE AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING AND STAGES AND WHY WHILE THE EARTH MOVING EQUIPMENT IS ON SITE, THAT WE DO THAT SITE WORK AND MAYBE AFTER 26

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WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR ONCE THE PROJECT IS AWARDED ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO STAGE THE SITE FOR EXPANSION SHORTLY AFTER, UH, OR SHORT, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND, AND SAVE SOME MONEY BECAUSE ALL THE EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN EMPLOYED YES.

BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS BUILDING.

AND WOULD THERE BE ANY ADVANTAGE THAT STAFF COULD INDICATE IF WE DID DEPLOY ALL THE SEASONAL EQUIPMENT AT ONE LOCATION, WOULD THERE BE ANY ADVANTAGE AT THE SITE CURRENTLY WHERE FIRE OR SOME OTHER CITY SERVICE COULD UTILIZE IT? THE SPACE OR THE STRUCTURE? WE'D HAVE TO FLUSH THAT OUT OF THE, AT THE, UH, AT THE STAFF LEVEL, SIR.

BUT YES, I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, UH, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME ADDITIONAL BENEFIT THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD REALIZE.

THE FIRE DIVISION COULD REALIZE FROM HAVING THAT CONVINCED THE DISCUSSION IS AT LEAST WORTHWHILE BASED ON THIS BEING A LONG TERM BUILDING.

UM, HOW OLD IS CITY HALL? 30, 40 YEARS THIS BUILDING? 30 I THINK, OR TIME FLIES, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THIS BUILDING, MIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST LOOK AT WHERE THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS WORKED OUT OF, IT'S BEEN WHAT, 40, 40 YEARS IF NOT MORE IN SOME CASES? YEAH.

SO THIS WILL BE 50 YEARS BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.

AND I THINK 50 YEARS OF MANPOWER WOULD, WOULD BE A SOUND INVESTMENT IF, IF THE FACILITY WAS ALL ENCOMPASSING WITH THE SEASONAL EQUIPMENT AS WELL.

I THINK IT'D BE MONEY WELL SPENT, INVESTED, LET'S SAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO THIS.

I'M EXCITED FOR OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE SIT AT A TABLE AND HAVE LUNCH.

I'M EXCITED.

UM, IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE, DO WE, DO WE MAKE THIS LARGE ENOUGH SO WE HAVE FUTURE GROWTH TO BE IN THIS BUILDING? IS MY QUESTION.

LIKE I SAID, THE PLAN FOR IT NOW IS FOR A 30 YEAR OUTLOOK.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT'S ESTIMATED.

THAT'S HOW THE BUILDING'S BEEN AS FAR AS PERSONNEL, ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL ESTIMATED OF THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS ON MONDAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DON? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST A COMMENT, MAYBE A QUESTION FOR MIKE.

MIKE HAD, UM, A FEW YEARS BACK WE HAD A GREAT IDEA AND THAT WAS WE WERE GONNA BUY A, UH, PAVER TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR OWN, UH, PAVING ON THE VARIOUS WALKWAYS AND THINGS WITHIN THE CITY PARKS.

AND, UH, I ASKED YOU, UH, WHERE WE STOOD WITH THAT AND YOU GAVE ME A, UM, A PRETTY DIRECT ANSWER ON IT.

MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT, UH, UH, DON, RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT IT.

UH, THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS, IS THIS BUILDING HERE, WILL THIS PERMIT US TO, UH, GROW AND EXPAND THOSE PROGRAMS? I THOUGHT THE, UH, THE PAVER FOR THE CITY PARKS WAS A, A PRETTY BRILLIANT IDEA AT THE TIME.

UM, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT NOW.

UM, YES, DEFINITELY.

I DO THINK IN THE FUTURE IT WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO OTHER, UM, SAY TRADE ASPECTS OF STREET REPAIRS AND, AND MORE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

UM, AND IN RELATION TO MAYBE SOME OTHER, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, WALK PAST OR EVEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WATER BREAK REPAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD DO GET YOU QUICKER WITH A SMALL TYPE PAVER.

UM, SO THOSE THAT WOULD UTILIZE TO BE BENEFICIAL TO THE RESIDENTS DOES WITH THAT ITSELF.

UM, SO IS THIS NEW FACILITY RIGHT NOW, LIKE YOU POINTED OUT? UM, I, I, I'M LIVING, MY PEOPLE ARE LIVING DAY TO DAY ARE, ARE BASICALLY LIKE RIGHT HERE, LIKE IN, IN A POST STAMP AND WE'RE AN ENVELOPE BASICALLY.

I MEAN THE FACILITIES THEY HAVE TO UTILIZE TO USE THE RESTROOMS ARE NOT ADEQUATE.

THAT'S A SHAME.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST WHAT IT IS AS FAR AS WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE'VE GROWN TO AS FAR AS PERSONNEL.

AND THEN NO, I, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND YOU GET DIFFERENT PERSONNEL THAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE GROWING, BUT I CAN'T RECOMMEND KEEP RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL TO SPEND OTHER THINGS AS FAR AS THEM NOT BEING BENEFICIAL TO WHERE TO PUT THEM OR TO PROPERLY CARE FOR THEM WITHOUT USING A LARGER FACILITY.

FOR STAFF THERE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

AND, UH, A AGAIN, I JUST WANNA REITERATE, YOU SAID, UH, THIS IS 30 YEARS AS IT SIT, 50 YEARS.

IF YOU ADD IN THE, UH, THE OFFSITE, UH, COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL, I THINK YOU HAVE A, A A PRETTY GOOD SUGGESTION

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UH, IS THERE A, AN OVERALL BENEFIT FOR THE CITY, UH, IF WE WERE TO, UH, CONGLOMERATE EVERYTHING AT ONE SITE? SO I AGREE WITH THEM.

UH, THANK YOU, MIKE.

THANKS, MAYOR.

THANKS, DON.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, MARK? YEAH.

MIKE, I HAVE TO COMMENT ON YOU AND YOUR STAFF AGAIN.

YOU'VE WORKED FOR THE CITY STREETS DIVISION, HOW LONG? ALMOST 30 YEARS NOW.

HA HAVE, WE DO BECOME PRETTY STATE, STATE-OF-THE-ART IN OUR OPERATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BECOME A LOT MORE ADVANCED THAN WE WERE WHEN I STARTED HERE.

AND IN, AND THE STREETS.

THE STREETS OVERALL WITH PUBLIC WORKS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

AND, AND THE STREETS OVERALL ARE TREMENDOUSLY BETTER THAN THEY WERE 30 YEARS AGO.

AND MIKE, YOU, YOU'VE EMPLOYED, UH, VENDORS THAT HAVE DONE THINGS THAT, UH, MAYBE COULD BE DONE EASIER AS AN OUTSIDE SUBCONTRACTOR, AND YOU HAVE FOCUSED ON PAVEMENT, CURBS, CONCRETE WITH YOUR STAFF AND THAT STUFF THAT WE DIDN'T DO 30 YEARS AGO.

CORRECT? FOR THE MOST PART, YES.

WE'RE A LOT MORE ADAMANT IN DOING THOSE THINGS.

SO JUST HEARING THAT YOUR FACILITIES AREN'T ADEQUATE, IT'S PRETTY PAINFUL SITTING UP HERE, AND I KNOW IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO I, AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

THE NEXT IS ITEM 3G, WHICH IS THE GOVERNANCE CENTER PROJECT, PHASE ONE, SOLICITING THOSE BIDS, RUSS? OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON? NO.

NO? OKAY.

[ Governance Center Project - Phase 1 - Solicit Bids]

UH, THIS LEGISLATION WILL ALLOW US TO GO OUT, UH, ADVERTISE AND RECEIVE BIDS FOR THE NEW HUBER HEIGHTS GOVERNANCE BUILDING.

UH, THIS IS PHASE, PHASE ONE PROJECT.

UH, THE NEW BUILDING IS LOCATED ON BRENT PIKE, UH, BETWEEN FISHBURG AND CHAMBERSBURG, AND IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE NEW LIBRARY.

UH, THE CITY'S ARCHITECT IS LWC, AND THEY'RE HANDLING THE BIDDING PROCESS FOR THIS WITH OUR ASSISTANCE.

UH, THIS BID IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE ENTIRE SHELL OF THE BUILDING, AND WILL INCLUDE THE INTERIOR PORTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S, HALF OF THE BUILDING.

UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

UH, WE'LL BE BACK, BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL PROBABLY IN ABOUT SIX WEEKS TO AWARD THE CONTRACTOR TRUST.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO WITNESS ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING? OKAY.

[ Supplemental Appropriations]

NEXT IS ITEM THREE H, WHICH IS SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS.

JIM.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HAVE A FEW ITEMS ON THE, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL TONIGHT.

UM, FIRST ONE, UH, WHICH THESE WERE ALL INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

I HAVE NO NEW ADDITIONS TONIGHT.

UM, $67,769, UH, REIMBURSING, UH, MONTGOMERY COUNTY FOR THE, UH, OVERTIME THAT THEIR STAFF, UH, WORKED IN HELPING OUR DISPATCHERS, UH, ASSISTING THEM DURING THE, UH, CYBER ATTACK DURING THE MONTHS OF, I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

UH, WE NEED $5,000 FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT AND, UM, ASKING THAT THE BUDGET BE IMPROVED BY THIS BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE A DONATION FOR $5,000.

SO IT REALLY IS A, IT'S A WASH.

BUT, UM, A RESIDENT HAS ASKED THAT, THAT, UH, UH, DONATION BE SPECIFICALLY FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT.

UH, $7,513.

UH, THIS IS A, UH, TRANSFER FROM THE FEMA FUND.

WE RECEIVED A FEMA GRANT.

AND, UM, AND THAT WAS FOR, UH, OVERTIME THAT ONE OF OUR FIRE EMPLOYEES WORKED, UH, FOR HURRICANE ADALIA LAST YEAR.

AND SO THE MONEY JUST CAME IN THIS YEAR.

SO ONCE AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE LIKE A WASH AS WELL, BECAUSE WE RECEIVED GRANT MONIES, UH, FOR THAT, UH, $21 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

AND, UH, AS YOU KNOW, IN NOVEMBER, WE, UM, PART OF THE NOTES THAT WE DID IN NOVEMBER INCLUDED $5 MILLION FOR THE FIRST PART OF THIS, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT WE MIGHT GET THIS PROJECT STARTED AROUND FEBRUARY.

SO WHEN WE WERE DOING THE OTHER NOTES, I HAD PUT $5 MILLION IN FOR THAT.

SO WE NEED TO CREATE A BUDGET RIGHT NOW OF 21 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THE WHOLE PROJECT'S GONNA BE, AS WAS JUST DISCUSSED.

UM, I DON'T, UH, ANTICIPATE, UM, GOING OUT FOR $21 MILLION OF NOTES THIS YEAR.

I'LL BE IN CLOSE, UM, TOUCH WITH, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THAT'S, UH, SELECTED AS WELL AS RUSS AND, AND, UM, UH, UH, MIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE SCHEDULE OF PAYMENTS AS THEY ANTICIPATE BEING, WE'LL GO FOR ADDITIONAL NOTES.

SO WHEN THAT INITIAL $5 MILLION IS USED, THEN I'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ANOTHER FIVE OR SEVEN, WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE TO GET US THROUGH THE REST OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY DO SOME MORE NOTES NEXT YEAR.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH MONEY OUT AT ANY ONE TIME, SO, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY INTEREST ON THAT.

AND INTEREST IS A LITTLE ON THE HIGH SIDE RIGHT NOW.

SO, UH, BUT WE NEED TO CREATE A BUDGET FOR THIS.

AND AS I SAID, BACK IN JANUARY

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WHEN WE APPROVED THE BUDGET, UNTIL WE KNEW WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS GONNA BE FOR THIS FACILITY, THERE WAS NO SENSE IN ASKING COUNCIL FOR A BUDGET AT THAT TIME.

SO I'M ASKING FOR IT NOW.

AND, UH, THE FINAL ITEM, UM, UH, AT THE LAST, UH, WORK SESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SEWER, UH, JET VACUUM TRUCK.

AND NOW THAT WE KNOW, UH, THAT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED, UH, FOR THE LEASE FINANCING, THE FIRST LEASE PAYMENT WILL BE IN DECEM, UM, OCTOBER OR DECEMBER.

UH, ONE PAYMENT THIS YEAR, UM, $72,070.

AND SINCE WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE NOW WOULD KNOW IT.

AND SO WE NEED TO ADD THAT TO THE BUDGET SO WE CAN MAKE THAT PAYMENT, UH, NEAR THE END OF THIS YEAR.

THANKS, JIM.

ANY QUESTIONS? DON? JIM, I KNOW YOU TOLD US AT THE LAST MEETING, I APOLOGIZE, UH, ON THAT, UH, SEWER, SEWER JET VACUUM TRUCK.

WE'RE PAYING HOW MUCH A MONTH JUST TO, UM, UH, RUN A REPLACEMENT NOW, UH, THE RENTAL IS 14,000 A MONTH, THAT'S ALL LIKE, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS, MAYOR.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, AND MAYOR, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT WE WOULD, UM, SUSPEND THE SECOND OR HAVE A SECOND READING ON THIS AND APPROVE IT MONDAY NIGHT SO THEY CAN GET STARTED WITH THE CONTRACT.

SO WAIVE, YOU'RE ASKING TO WAIVE THE SECOND? YES.

SO WE CAN, UH, GET STARTED WITH THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT ON THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

AND NEXT IS ITEM THREE I, WHICH IS THE WAVERLY PLACE TIFF, DISTRICT KAI.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING TO MONDAY? OKAY.

[ Waverly Place TIF District]

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UH, BEFORE I BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT ON APRIL 22ND, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE WAVERLEY TIFF DISTRICT, UH, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE WILL ALSO BE LEGISLATION BROUGHT FORTH THE COURT COUNSEL.

UH, AGAIN, UH, THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS GONNA BE APRIL 22ND.

UH, THE INFORMATION THAT I'M GONNA PRESENT TONIGHT WILL ALSO BE SHARED DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING MEETING.

SO THE LABOR TIFF INCLUDES A PROPOSED 97 UNIT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY ON APPROXIMATELY 22.3 ACRES.

UH, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REFERRED TO AS A TIFF IS A WAY TO CAPTURE PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT AND LEVERAGING THOSE DOLLARS AS A WAY TO DIRECTLY SUPPORT THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT TIPS ARE AUTHORIZED UNDER THE OHIO REVISED CODE, WHICH ALSO MANDATE THAT TIF MONIES ARE SPENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES WITHIN THE ASSIGNED T DISTRICT.

UH, THE WAIVER OF THE TIF DISTRICT WILL NOT IMPACT COOPER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS.

THIS GRAPHIC SHOWN, UH, REPRESENTS, UH, EXACTLY HOW A TIF OR TAX INCREMENT FINANCING WORKS, WHEREAS YOU HAVE THE EXISTING VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO BE TAXED AT THE ASSESSED VALUE THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE TIF DISTRICT.

THE YELLOW TRIANGULAR PORTION REPRESENTS THE INCREASE IN VALUE OVER TIME, AND IT IS THE INCREMENTAL ASSESSED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS CAPTURED, AND THAT IS USED TO FINANCE THE TIFF DISTRICT.

THE ORANGE PORTION REPRESENTS POST-PROJECT ASSESSED VALUE ONCE THE TIFF HAS CEASED.

IT IS ALSO AT THIS POINT WHERE ALL TAXING ENTITIES ARE MADE WHOLE.

UH, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE PROJECT IS A 97 UNIT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED EAST OF BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD, UH, NORTH OF FISHBURN ROAD AND SOUTH OF CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.

THE WAVERLY TIFF, AGAIN, WILL NOT AFFECT HUBER HEIGHT CITY SCHOOLS AND THE ESTIMATED 30 YEAR GROSS REVENUE IS VALUED AT 3.665 MILLION.

GRAPHIC HERE SHOWN IS THE WAVERLY DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN.

UH, THE 97 UNITS ARE COMPRISED OF 29 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH THE ESTIMATED AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE OF $106,208.

UH, 30 PAIRED PATIO HOMES WITH THE ESTIMATED AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE OF 99,663 THOU, UH, DOLLARS AND 38 PAIRED TOWN HOMES WITH THE ESTIMATED AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE OF 86,870 DO $70.

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS, UH, ADOPTED ON FEBRUARY 12TH, UH, DESIGNATE THE WAVERLY DEVELOPMENT TIF FUNDS TO THE FOLLOWING IMPROVEMENTS.

PHASE ONE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF UTILITY ENTRY AND ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE.

PHASE TWO IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE REPLACEMENT, REPAIR, MAINTENANCE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF NEW OR EXISTED PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT AMENITIES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE INCENTIVE DISTRICT.

AND PHASE THREE IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE STREET, WATER, SEWER, AND STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AS ADDRESSED IN THE CITYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE RELIANCE STUDY PREPARED BY LBGA, UH, BACK IN SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022.

LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATION CALENDAR, UH, DATING BACK TO THE JANUARY 16TH WORK SESSION, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS INTRODUCED AND THE FIRST READING ON JANUARY 22ND, UH, BACK ON

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FEBRUARY 12TH, THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS ADOPTED, UH, ON FEBRUARY 19TH, NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WERE SENT NOTIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED TIF DISTRICT.

AND AGAIN, ON APRIL 22ND, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND THE FIRST READING FOR THE TIF ORDINANCE.

UH, THE SECOND READING ON THE FINAL ADOPTION IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 9TH.

HOWEVER, THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, WHICH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WILL DISCUSS IN FURTHER DETAIL DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR KAI? YES, KEITH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR KAI, CAN YOU TELL ME, ARE THESE GONNA BE MARKET RATE? I WILL REFER YOU TO THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

RYAN.

THANK YOU, KAI.

LEMME PULL UP THE CHART HERE.

MIKE.

MIKE, BRIAN, UPSET JIM, HOW DARE YOU TURN THAT OFF WHEN YOU'RE DONE SPEAKING .

UM, SO, UM, REMEMBER THE, UH, THE TAXABLE VALUE IS 35% OF THE MARKET VALUE.

SO, UH, THE PRICE POINTS AS INDICATED BY THE DEVELOPER FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $357,000 PER UNIT.

THE PAIRED PATIO WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $335,000 PER UNIT, AND THE PAIRED TOWN HOMES WILL BE $292,000 PRICE POINT PER UNIT.

SO, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR LISTED WAS, AGAIN, OF THE TAXABLE VALUE, WHICH IS ABOUT 35% OF THOSE.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT CLEAR.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, NOT COUNCIL, MAKE A COMMENT? SURE.

UH, KYLE, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

THANKS, SIR.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT FROM YOU YET SO FAR, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU THAT, UH, WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE AND, UH, I THOUGHT EXPLAINING THE TIFF IN TERMS THAT, UH, ANYONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE LISTENING, UH, OR WATCHING THE MEETING TONIGHT WOULD UNDERSTAND.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU.

BUT THANK YOU, MR. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

YES, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UH, ACTUALLY, I, I DO HAVE ONE.

YOU, YOU JUST, YOU HAD MENTIONED, UH, 3.65 MILLION, I THINK WAS THE ESTIMATED REVENUE BEFORE WE'D HEARD A NUMBER AROUND FIVE, FIVE AND A HALF.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THERE? I KNOW, IS THAT AFTER KIND OF WHAT WE'RE USING TO, UM, WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE FIVE AND A HALF MINUS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BELL FOUNTAIN, OR ARE THOSE NEW BASED ON THE VALUES? SO WHAT EFFECTIVELY, REMEMBER WE WENT THROUGH THE RECENT REVALUATION PROCESS AND THE STATUTORY LIMITATIONS ON PROPERTY TAX.

YOU CAN GENERATE NO MORE TODAY THAN THE FIRST DAY, UM, IN WHICH THE, UH, PROPERTY TAX WENT INTO EFFECT.

SO, UH, IF YOU'LL HUMOR ME FOR JUST ONE MOMENT, THE EFFECTIVE RATE TODAY, IF THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, THE EFFECTIVE RATE, UH, IS 57.34 MILS.

AND OUR INITIAL TABLE WAS, HOLD ON HERE.

I WAS, UM, I WAS IN A, ANOTHER GROUP CHATTING WITH JIM ABOUT, UH, THE FINANCING FOR THE, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING HERE.

UM, AND SO OUR ESTIMATES ON WAVERLY PRIOR TO THAT WERE, OH, HERE IT IS.

BRIAN, YOU GOOFBALL.

UM, OUR TOTAL TAX, OUR TOTAL MILLAGE RATE, UH, INITIALLY WAS, LET ME, LET'S SEE, UM, I'M GONNA ENDOW JUST SOME, LET'S SEE, WE WERE AT 81.87.

SO THE MILLAGE RATE DROPPED TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN VALUE, IT DROPPED FROM 81.87 DOWN TO 57.

34 57.

SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S THE NET EFFECT ON YET TO BE REALIZED REVENUE TO THE CITY.

GOTCHA.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND IT ISN'T BECAUSE THE VALUES ARE LESS.

IT, IT'S A, IT'S A MILLAGE, IT'S AN EFFECTIVE MILLAGE RATE.

UH, CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IT IS A REQUIRED ADJUSTMENT OF THE EFFECTIVE ATE.

NEXT IS ITEM THREE J, WHICH IS THE MIAMI COUNTY, UH, PROSECUTION SERVICES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY, ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY?

[01:10:01]

OKAY,

[ Miami County Prosecution Services]

RICK.

YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, SO, UH, AS WE'VE PARTNERED, UH, WITH OUR NEW COLLEAGUES AT COOLIDGE'S WALL, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE, UM, PROSECUTION SERVICES IN MIAMI COUNTY.

UM, TYPICALLY, UH, BASED ON ESTIMATES, WE HAVE ABOUT 35, UH, MUNICIPAL CASES IN MIAMI COUNTY PER YEAR.

NOT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER, UM, BUT I KNOW CHRIS AND HIS COLLEAGUES INDICATED THAT, UH, WE MAY BE BETTER SERVED, UM, BY A, UH, LAW DIRECTOR WHO OPERATES WITHIN MIAMI COUNTY.

SO, UM, CHRIS, UM, CONNOR REACHED OUT TO, UM, THE LAW DIRECTOR OF TROY, UH, WHO WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH IN THE PAST.

UM, THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE US ON AS A CLIENT, UM, FOR THESE 35 OR SO CASES A YEAR.

UM, I THINK THEY'VE DONE GOOD WORK FOR US IN THE PAST.

AND THE, UM, NET COST IS $7,500 PER YEAR, SO PROBABLY AROUND $200 PER CASE.

SO, UH, I, I THINK THE, THE COST IS MORE THAN REASONABLE.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE GIVEN US GREAT SERVICE.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, COUNSEL TO PARTNER WITH THE, UH, TROY CITY LAW DIRECTOR, UM, MOVING FORWARD ON THESE CASES.

OKAY, THANKS, DRAKE.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY,

[ Liquor Permit #6200886 - Mr. Pollo Mexican Grill - 4480 Powell Road]

NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE K, WHICH IS LIQUOR PERMIT NUMBER 6 2 0 0 8 6 6 FOR MR. POEO MEXICAN GRILL AT 44 80 POWELL ROAD.

KAREN.

OKAY, SO THIS ITEM IS FOR NEW D FIVE LIQUOR LICENSE FOR MR. POLO MEXICAN GRILL AT 44 80 POWELL ROAD.

UM, BOTH THE POLICE AND FIRE DIVISIONS HAVE REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION FOR LICENSE AND HAVE NO OBJECTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS FROM COUNSEL, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS TO THE APRIL 22ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, KATE, ONE SILLY QUESTION.

I THINK WE ALL GOT BURNED ON PREVIOUSLY.

IS IT DINE IN ALCOHOL ONLY OR IS IT SHOTS TO GO? IT'S DINE IN IT.

THE D FIVE IS FOR, UM, LIQUOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION ONLY, BEER, WINE, AND MIXED BEVERAGES FOR ON PREMISES AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

AND, UM, OFF-PREMISES AND ORIGINAL SEALED CONTAINERS.

AND NEXT IS ITEM THREE L, WHICH IS, UH, CITY LIQUOR PERMITS.

UP TO 2:30 AM NOW SARAH MAY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW.

DOES THAT I HAVE THE RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTION? OKAY.

WE'LL SEE THAT ON MONDAY.

[ City Liquor Permits - 2024 Annual Objections]

THESE ARE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY 2024 ANNUAL OBJECTIONS.

OKAY? OKAY.

SO EACH OF YOUR COUNTS IS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY BY THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL TO OBJECT TO ANY LIQUOR LICENSE THAT IS EXISTS IN THE CITY CURRENTLY THIS YEAR.

THE DEADLINE FOR FILING IS AN OBJECTIONS FROM MAY 2ND, 2024.

AND THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN SHARED WITH FIRE AND POLICE DIVISIONS AND CITY ADMINISTRATION AND NO OBJECTIONS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.

I THINK JUST, IT JUST A KIND OF A REMINDER, IF THERE ARE OBJECTIONS, ALL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL SAY IT ALL GOES TO THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR CONTROL.

UM, SO WE CAN KIND OF JUMP UP AND DOWN AND SCREAM AND YELL AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THOSE OBJECTIONS ARE GONNA BE HANDLED ANY DIFFERENTLY AT THE, AT THE STATE LEVEL.

BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU HAVE ANY, THAT WE CAN STATE THOSE OBJECTIONS AT LEAST TO MAKE OUR OBJECTIONS DONE PUBLICLY.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.

AND THERE'S, UM, NOTHING'S REQUIRED ON THAT AT THE, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I THINK, I THINK IT HAS TO, I THINK IT HAS TO.

GOOD FOR JUST TO, IS THIS A NOTE? I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.

I FORGET.

YEAH, YEAH, IF IT DOES, IF IT NEEDS TO BE ON MONDAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO BEING ON MONDAY? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THIS WAS JUST THE OPPORTUNITY.

IF THERE WERE OBJECTIONS, WE COULD STATE THOSE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING OR IF IT, OR IF THERE'S ANY LEGISLATION THAT NEEDED TO GO ALONG WITH IT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.

I DON'T REMEMBER THIS.

I THINK IT WAS MAYBE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, WE'LL FIND OUT.

MAYBE NOT EVEN A, IT'S JUST A MOTION, NOT A LEGISLATION.

ACTUALLY, I THINK WE ONLY HAD LEGISLATION IF WE HAD ANY OBJECTION AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE HAD LEG LEGISL LEGISLATION.

WE JUST HAD TONY FILE AN OBJECTION.

YEAH, YEAH, WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK.

I, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING IS REQUIRED, BUT IF IT IS, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT APPEARS.

[ Board And Commission Appointments * Military And Veterans Commission - Appointment]

NEXT IS ITEM 3M, WHICH IS THE BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS FOR THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION.

UH, KAREN.

SO, UM, MR. KEVIN MCDONALD WAS INTERVIEWED BY THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL AND THE PANEL RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR MR. MCDONALD BE APPOINTED TO THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION, UH, FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.

A BACKGROUND CHECK IS STILL PENDING.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO APRIL 22ND MEETING WHEN A FAVORABLE BACKGROUND CHECK HAS BEEN RECEIVED BACK.

[01:15:01]

ANY QUESTIONS, ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE THAT ON TO MONDAY AS WELL.

IS ITEM THREE IN WHICH IS ANNEXATION.

NEXT UP

[ Annexation]

THIS IS, UM, JUST A, A BRIEF UPDATE.

I KNOW, UM, I HAVE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND KIND OF WHEN THAT WAS GONNA BE READY AND WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING THAT OR WHEN THAT BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH MY CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH, UH, RICK AND AND STAFF, WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT READY TO GO PUBLICLY WITHIN THE NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS.

SO THAT IS WHEN THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHEN ALL THE INFORMATION WE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO, UH, ONCE WE HAVE THAT FOR SURE, THEN UH, THAT WILL THEN OPEN UP THAT CONVERSATION PUBLICLY ON, ON THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO THE CITY.

SO, UH, BECAUSE I, I KNOW SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT THAT AND BEEN GETTING SOME, UH, SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.

I JUST WANNA HAVE THIS ITEM ON HERE THIS EVENING JUST SO WE CAN SAY PUBLICLY, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE.

OKAY? OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, THERE IS A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING.

YES, MARK.

MOTION TO ADJOURN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE GOTTA, SHE'S GONNA READ THE MOTION FIRST.

SORRY.

SO ARE WE READY FOR THAT? YEP.

UM, A MOTION TO ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE, TO CONSIDER THE SALE OR OTHER DISPOSITION OF UNNEEDED PROPERTY BY COMPETITIVE BID.

AND TWO, TO CONSIDER CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC BUSINESS STRATEGY OF AN APPLICANT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE.

ORDER NEGOTIATIONS WITH OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS, RESPECTING REQUESTS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE THAT INVOLVES PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR THE EXTENSION OF UTILITY SERVICES THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

AND THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE INTEREST OF THE APPLICANT WITH A POSSIBLE INVESTMENT OR EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO BE MADE IN CONNECTION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.