[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, TODAY'S DATE IS JULY 10TH, 2023, AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT SIX O'CLOCK.
THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
AND NEXT WE WOULD HAVE OUR INVOCATION
[2. Invocation - Pastor John Gakwaya Of The Compassion Free Methodist Church At 6875 Old Troy Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio]
THIS EVENING BY PASTOR RANDY GRIFFITH, UH, OF THE FREE METHODIST CHURCH AT 68 75 OLD TROY PIKE HERE IN HEBREW HEIGHTS, PASTOR GRIFFITH.HELLO, SECOND CORINTHIANS THREE 17 SAYS, NOW, THE LORD IS THE SPIRIT AND WHERE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS.
AND WHEREVER HE RESIDES, THERE IS FREEDOM.
HE IS THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND INCLUDED WITH ALL OF HIS HOLY ATTRIBUTES.
EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THE ATROCITIES OF THE GAS CHAMBERS AND FURNACES OF THE PRISON CAMPS AND NAZI GERMANY DURING WORLD WAR II.
IMAGINE BEING IN ONE OF THOSE LINES.
MAYBE YOU KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND MAYBE YOU DON'T, BUT IT'S COMING.
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, A MESSENGER COMES UP AND SAYS, COME ON, THERE'S AN OPEN GATE OVER HERE TO FREEDOM, JUST THIS ONE.
AND IF YOU'RE WILLING TO JUST COME AND GO THROUGH THAT ONE GATE, YOU WILL BE FREE.
OTHERS MAY SAY, WELL, HE'S LYING, OR HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
ONE GATE IS THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHERS, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE IT ALL ENDS UP.
AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.
THE MESSENGER THEN SAYS, SO MANY HAVE STAYED IN THIS LINE AND ARE GONE, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM.
MANY OTHERS HAVE BELIEVED THE MESSAGE THOUGH, AND GONE THROUGH THE GATE AND ARE NOW FREE.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE? ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BELIEVE AND GO THROUGH THE GATE AND YOU WILL BE FREE.
THE BIBLE SAYS, EVERYONE WHO SINS AS A SLAVE TO SIN, AND THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD.
AND IF THE SON OF GOD SETS YOU FREE, YOU ARE TRULY FREE.
JESUS CAME TO SAVE US AND TO SET US FREE.
AND WHEN BY FAITH, A PERSON RECEIVES THIS GOOD NEWS AND TURNS TO JESUS, JESUS, THEY ARE SAVED AND SET FREE BY THE SPIRIT BECAUSE THE LORD IS THE SPIRIT AND WHERE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS, THERE IS FREEDOM.
THERE IS AN OPEN DOOR FOR ALL WHO ARE WILLING TO GO THROUGH ETERNAL LIFE IS LIFE IN THE SPIRIT.
ETERNAL LIFE IS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IN YOU.
THE POWER OF AN INDESTRUCTIBLE LIFE, THE HOPE OF GLORY WITH CHRIST IN HEAVEN.
AND IT'S HAVING THE REALITY OF CHRIST IN YOU IN THIS LIFE, MORE THAN JUST WORDS OR TRADITIONS OR CEREMONIES OR WISHFUL THINKING, BUT THE LIVING CHRIST REAL FAITH FROM THE ONE WHO MADE IT ALL POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE GOD IS IN HIM AND HE IS IN GOD.
AND BECAUSE OF HIM, BELIEVERS ARE IN GOD.
GOD IS IN US, AND WE KNOW THIS THROUGH THE SPIRIT THAT HE GAVE US.
FATHER, I PRAY THAT EVERYONE IN HERE WILL COME TO KNOW THE REALITY OF THE TRUTH OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE, THAT THEY MAY BE TRULY FREE ON THE INSIDE.
AND LORD, WE PRAY FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT THAT ALL MIGHT BE DONE IN A MATTER THAT'S FITTING ONE, THAT'S A MATTER THAT'S PLEASING TO YOU, WHERE WE SPEAK THE TRUTH AND LOVE AND ACCOMPLISH YOUR WORK.
[3. Pledge Of Allegiance]
TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.TONY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? MR.
[4. Roll Call]
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GORE HERE.NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS
[ City Council Meeting Minutes - June 26, 2023]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.THERE'S ONE SET OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE 26TH, TWO 20 2023.
THOSE MINUTES? WELL STAND AS APPROVED.
OKAY, SAYING NONE THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER SIX, SPECIAL
[ Presentation Of Newly Hired Personnel Within The Fire Division - Fire Chief Keith Knisley And Mayor Jeff Gore]
PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.ITEM SIX, A PRESENTATION OF NEWLY HIRED PERSONNEL WITHIN THE FIRE DIVISION BY FIRE CHIEF KEITH KNISELY AND MAYOR JEFF COURT.
SO, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE TO INTRODUCE.
UM, WE'VE BEEN, UH, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO AS MUCH PUBLICITY AS WE CAN.
UH, SINCE THE COVID PANDEMIC STARTED, UH, IN A FIRE STATION, COVID WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR US BECAUSE WE WERE OUT RESPONDING TO PEOPLE EVERY DAY.
AND ONE OF OUR BIG CONCERNS AS CHIEF ASHWORTH'S CONCERN, ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS IS, IS THAT IF WE HAD AN OUTBREAK WITHIN A FIRE STATION, IT COULD DISABLE OUR FIRE FIRE SERVICES.
SO WE DID A LOT OF PRECAUTIONS MASKING, UH, YOU KNOW, WEARING, WE JUST STOPPED WEARING MASKS, WHAT, THREE MONTHS AGO, FOUR MONTHS AGO? SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, ON EVERY SINGLE CALL.
UH, SO WE'VE BEEN TAKING A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF PRECAUTIONS IN THE TIME SINCE COVID.
A LOT OF THINGS HAVE HAPPENED WITH NEW FIRE CHIEF, TWO NEW BATTALION CHIEFS, FOUR PROMOTED LIEUTENANTS, TWO NEW CAPTAINS, A MEDICAL DIRECTOR.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, AND, UH, WE KIND OF GOT BOGGED DOWN ON, UH, TRYING TO KEEP THE WHEELS MOVING AND THE HIRING AND ONBOARDING.
YOU MAY THINK THAT HIRING, UM, IS, IS EASY.
THE HIRING PART IS ONE, ONE PIECE OF IT.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS THE ONBOARDING CAPTAIN WATERS HERE HAS ONBOARDED MORE PEOPLE THIS YEAR.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME MAKING SURE THAT WE GET PEOPLE UP TO SPEED.
SO WE WANT TO TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES AND INTRODUCE SOME OF OUR NEW PEOPLE.
SO THE FIRST PERSON THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE IS FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC ZACH JONES.
ZACH CAME TO US FROM PLA PACK WHERE HE WORKED FOR FIVE YEARS.
UH, HE STARTED FEBRUARY 3RD, 2020.
AND I'LL LET ZACH, UH, INTRODUCE.
HE'S GOT SOME FAMILY MEMBERS HERE WITH HIM.
THIS IS MY WIFE JANELLE, MY OLDEST BOY RIGHT HERE, UH, IS COOPER AND MY YOUNGEST, UH, RIGHT THERE.
UM, YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.
I APPRECIATE THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY.
WE'LL GET YOU TAKE A DRINK OVER.
AND STARTING ON THE SAME DAY AS ZACH AS, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC GARRETT BUDWORTH.
UH, GARRETT'S, UH, UH, INTERESTING BACKGROUND IS ONE.
HE WAS, I THINK HE WAS IN ONE OF THE FIRST CTC PROGRAMS WHERE THEY DID FIREFIGHTER EMT IN HIGH SCHOOL.
SO HE WAS ONE OF THEIR GRADUATES.
UH, UH, HE CAME TO US FROM, UH, HARRISON TOWNSHIP IN VANDALIA.
AND, UH, HE STARTED WITH US ON, UH, FEBRUARY 3RD, 2020.
SO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOUR FAMILY IF YOU'D LIKE.
THIS IS MY MOM, TERESA, MY SISTER SAVANNAH, MY FIANCE MCCALL, MY GRANDFATHER LARRY AND MY FATHER HERE.
AND OUR NEXT FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC IS MICHAEL LEWIS.
UH, MICHAEL CAME TO US AS A CAREER FIREFIGHTER FROM SUGAR CREEK TOWNSHIP, AND HE, UH, STARTED WITH US APRIL 27TH, 2020.
UM, UH, MICHAEL'S GOT A VERY DIVERSE CAREER BACKGROUND.
HE WORKED FOR SOME NEWS STATIONS, DOING SOME, UH, WRITING AND, UH, UH, PRODUCING OR, UH, SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, THE NEXT IS, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, UH, JOHN, OR, UH, NOR HOGO, UH, NOR CAME TO US FROM THE CITY OF CLEVELAND E M S.
UH, HE STARTED WITH US ON MARCH 29TH, 2021.
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AND THE NEXT IS, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC MATT P*****K.MATT CAME TO US FROM THE CITY OF DAYTON FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND HE STARTED WITH US ON, UH, MAY 2ND, 2021.
AND OUR NEXT FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC IS EMMA SALISBURY.
EMMA CAME TO US, WELL, ONE, EMMA WAS ONE OF, UH, ONE OF OUR PEOPLE THAT PROBABLY WORKED AS MANY HOURS AS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.
THEY WENT BEFORE SHE STARTED, BECAUSE SHE DID JUST ABOUT ALL OF HER RIDE TIME HERE, RIDE TIME WITH US, AND, UH, JOINED THE DEPARTMENT.
SHE CAME TO US FROM CEDARVILLE, NEW CARLISLE IN TROTWOOD, AND SHE STARTED MAY 3RD, 2021.
NEXT IS FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, CONNOR CANTRELL.
CONNOR CAME TO US FROM THE CITY OF FRANKLIN AND ALSO WORKED AT TROTWOOD AND THEN WORKS AT NEW CARLISLE.
UH, HE STARTED WITH US ON JANUARY 10TH, 2022.
OUR NEXT IS, UH, ONE OF OUR FIRE INSPECTORS, UH, FIRE INSPECTOR DOUG BAUMGARTNER.
UH, DOUG STARTED WITH US ON, UH, JUNE 28TH, 2021.
HE RETIRED FROM MORAINE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS A LIEUTENANT, AND THEN ALSO WAS A CLEARMONT COUNTY, E M A.
THEN HE WORKED FOR, UH, BEFORE HE CAME TO, SO WE'LL GET GOOD.
AND NEXT IS, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC KEEGAN PUTNAM.
KEEGAN CAME TO US FROM, UH, THE TIP CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND, UH, HIS START DATE WAS FEBRUARY 7TH, 2022.
I THINK YOU HAVE, YOU WANNA BRING ALL YOUR FAMILY UP OR NOT MORE THAN, ARE YOU GOOD RIGHT THERE.
YOU'VE DONE, THIS IS MY WIFE SUSAN, AND MY DAUGHTER CARLY, MY SON BROOKS.
THE NEXT IS, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC AARON KIMMEL.
AARON CAME TO US, UH, FROM, UH, LEWISBURG FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND HE ALSO WORKED, UH, PART-TIME AT ENGLEWOOD UNION IN BROOKVILLE.
UM, AARON'S GOT SOME FAMILY WITH HIM, AND HE'S IN A UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE HE STARTED WITH US ON JULY 11TH, 2022.
SO I IMAGINE TOMORROW YOU'RE OFF PROBATION.
SO HIS NEXT SHIFT, WE'LL, WE'LL DO A LITTLE CEREMONY FOR THAT.
HE GETS A, I BELIEVE HE GETS A PAY RAISE.
I BROUGHT MY WIFE JENNIFER, MY SON LANDED, MY SON, MY DA MY DAUGHTER RILEY, UH, MY SON LOGAN, AND HIS GIRLFRIEND HERE, MY DAUGHTER TO HER.
SO THE, THE NEXT THREE THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING IN, THEY WERE ACTUALLY FEATURED, UH, IN THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS IN, UH, IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY THIS YEAR.
UH, THEY ALL THREE WERE STUDENTS LAST YEAR, AND THESE WERE THREE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE REALLY FELT THAT WE NEEDED TO, WE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO GET ON BOARD.
UH, THEY DID A LOT OF PARAMEDIC RIGHT TIME TO IT WITH US.
THEY RIDE WITH OTHER PEOPLE, THEY WORKED AT OTHER PLACES, AND THEY CHOSE TO COME HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERIENCES.
SO THE NEXT THREE PEOPLE ARE ALL PEOPLE YOU MIGHT HAVE READ ABOUT ALREADY.
TIM, UH, COMES TO US FROM, UH, CLAYTON AND, UH, PART-TIME AT NEW CARLISLE.
AND, UH, TIM STARTED WITH US JANUARY 3RD, 2023.
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AND THIS IS MY FIANCE.AND NEXT IS FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC IAN FINCH.
IAN, UH, LIKE I SAID, HE'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT DID A LOT OF PARAMEDIC RIDE TIME WITH US.
UH, HE CAME TO US FROM, UH, JEFFERSON TOWNSHIP, UH, FRANKLIN AND, AND JIM'S IN FRANKLIN.
UH, AND HE STARTED WITH US ON JANUARY 3RD, 2023.
AND FINALLY, UH, KATIE, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC KATIE ING.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE FIRST START DATE WAS ONE DAY LATER.
UM, WE STARTED, UH, OUR FIRST TWO PEOPLE ON THE THIRD, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THE STATE GREENLIGHTED HER PARAMEDIC CARD ONLINE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO FAST FORWARD HER AND GET HER IN THE VERY NEXT DAY.
SO KATIE'S BEEN WITH US SINCE JANUARY 4TH, AND, UH, YOU WORKED AT CLAYTON AND ENGLAND, AMY WOOD? YEP.
THIS IS MY MOM, HEIDI, MY DAD, JIM, MY SISTER TORY, AND HER BOYFRIEND BLAKE.
AND NEXT WE HAVE A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC MORGAN MELIN MORGAN COMES TO US FROM VIOLET TOWNSHIP, AND, UH, SHE STARTED WITH US ON, UH, FEBRUARY 6TH, 2023.
THIS IS MY MOM, HOLLY, MY DAD.
CHIEF NEXT IS, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC DANIELLE WALTER.
DANNY CAME TO US FROM, UH, XENIA.
WE, UH, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO HIRE DANNY.
SHE APPLIED, UH, TO BE A SIDE JOB AS A FIRE, AS A, UH, FIRE INSPECTOR.
AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, HAD BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF GETTING HER TO COME WORK WITH US.
SO SHE HAS, UH, UH, BEEN WITH US SINCE, UH, APRIL 24TH THIS YEAR.
MY BOYFRIEND, AND NEXT IS FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, SAMANTHA STEIN, LOW KEY, TRYING TO RECRUIT HER FOR A WHILE.
SAM, SAM CAME TO US FROM RIVERSIDE, AND THEN SHE ALSO WORKED PART-TIME AT CLAYTON IN TROTWOOD, AND YOU VOLUNTEER AT NEW MADISON.
AND, UH, I WILL SAY SOME OF HER, HER DAD, STEVE USED TO WORK FOR, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
AND HE'S THE ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF OF ALL OUR TOWNSHIP.
ALSO BROUGHT, AND NOW WE HAVE, I GOTTA REMEMBER IF I, I'LL CALL YOU LATASHA
EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT NAME.
WE FOUND OUT SOME PEOPLE WANNA BE CALLED DIFFERENT NAMES.
SO LATASHA OR TASHA, COME ON IN, PLEASE.
LATASHA COLEMAN, SHE GETS OUR, UH, SHE GETS THE LONGEST DISTANCE TRAVELED.
SHE'S COMING TO US FROM MADISON, ALABAMA.
SO TASHA HAS BEEN, UH, TASHA IMPRESSED EVERYBODY WITH, UH, TRAVELING THIS FAR TO COME UP HERE.
AND THEN ALSO SHE'S HAD SOME TENACITY.
WE HAVE BOTH FOUGHT WITH THE STATE OF OHIO FOR A LITTLE BIT.
THE STATE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING REGULATIONS ON HOW THEY CERTIFY FIREFIGHTERS THAT COME INTO THE OUTSIDE.
SO WE NOW HAVE THE FIRST FIREFIGHTER THAT IS NOT MILITARY FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE OF OHIO THAT WAS ABLE TO GET FULL RECIPROCITY WITHOUT HAVING TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL TESTING OR ANYTHING.
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UH, WE KIND OF, WE KIND OF FOUGHT PRETTY GOOD FOR THAT.AND THE STATE HELPED US OUT AND SHE, UH, SHE BLAZED A TRAIL FOR ANYBODY ELSE COMING FROM ALABAMA TO THE STATE OF OHIO.
UH, SHE STARTED WITH US ON MAY 22ND, 2023.
AND I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE YOUR NAME.
THIS IS MY AUNT, MY UNCLE, UH, CARLOS WILSON, AND CRAIG.
AND NEXT WE HAVE CAPTAIN BRENDAN DEERE.
BRENDAN IS SOMEONE THAT WE'VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE OF, UH, HIS, UH, PREVIOUS JOB DUTIES.
UH, BRENDAN WAS, UH, UH, E M S, UH, HE WAS THE MANAGER OF E M S OUTREACH FOR PREMIER HEALTH, UH, PARTNERS, UH, WORKED FOR URBANA FIRE AND IS ALSO, UH, RIVERSIDE FIRE, AND IS THE FIRE CHIEF IN LAUREL, OHIO.
AND WE FINALLY GOT BRANDON TO BE ABLE TO START ON JUNE 19TH, 2023.
AND I HAVE MY WIFE WITH YOU, AND I THANK YOU.
SO, MAYOR, KNOWING THAT THIS IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF VACATION AND SCHEDULES.
UH, WE HAVE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC.
MICHAEL P*****K STARTED WITH US ON MARCH 22ND, 2021.
HE CAME FROM THE DAYTON AIRPORT.
UH, WE HAD FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC.
DAMIEN COOK STARTED WITH US ON AUGUST 30TH, 2021.
AND WE HAVE NICK AKAKA WHO STARTED WITH US ON, UH, FEBRUARY 21ST, 2023, COMING FROM DAYTON FIRE.
AND WE HAVE, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC JULIAN GILBERT, WHO JUST STARTED MAY 31ST.
AND HE CAME FROM THE CITY OF DAYTON FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND THEN ALSO FINALLY, UH, DR.
CHRIS MCINTOSH, WHO HE'S BEEN ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND WITH THE, UH, UH, UH, GRANT THAT WE, UH, APPLIED FOR, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE HIM A FULL-TIME WELLNESS COORDINATOR IN THAT BOOK DIRECTOR.
AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, WE DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS, BUT, UH, THE UNION HAS KIND OF, UH, ORGANIZED AN EVENT TONIGHT BECAUSE WE WANNA CELEBRATE SOMEONE'S RETIREMENT.
WE WANT CELEBRATE THE ONBOARDING OF ALL THESE, ALL THESE NEW PERSONNEL.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, COULD WE INTRODUCE MICHAEL SHOOTER HERE? OF COURSE.
MIKE, COME ON UP HERE REAL QUICK.
MIKE, UH, JUST RETIRED IN DECEMBER OF 2022 AND, UH, HAD 22 YEARS WITH US, RIGHT? CONGRATULATIONS.
ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT'S, UH, EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE.
THANKS AND WELCOME TO EVERYBODY.
AND, UH, GLAD TO HAVE YOU AS PART OF OUR, UH, RIGHTS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
APPRECIATE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE, HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
[7. Citizens Comments]
CITIZENS' COMMENTS, TONY.UH, BEFORE I GO TO THAT, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, REVIEW SOME GUIDELINES FOR THE CITIZENS' COMMENTS, UH, CITIZENS GIVEN TIME TO SPEAK DURING THE MEETING.
WHETHER GENERAL COMMENTS OR COMMENTS ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS MAY DO SO ONLY HAVE REGISTERED BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN'S COMMENT REQUEST FORM AND SUBMITTING THE FORM TO THE CLERK OF COUNSEL PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.
CITIZENS' COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON, AND ARE LIMITED TO THE SUBJECT UNDER DISCUSSION OF SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA ITEM.
THIS TIME IS FOR COMMENTS AND STATEMENTS ONLY, AND IS NOT A FORMAT FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL START WITH MR. UH, JEFF MORFORD.
GOOD EVENING, JEFF MORFORD BEZEL TOWNSHIP.
DO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO PLAN TO VOTE NO TO THE CONTESTANT ANNEXATION REQUEST? THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO WILL VOTE NO TO ANNEXATION WHO BELIEVE IN PERSONAL PROPERTY LINES, WHO BELIEVE IN MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY LINES, WHO BELIEVE IN TOWNSHIP LINES, WHO BELIEVE IN COUNTY BORDERLINES, WHO BELIEVE IN STATE TO STATE LINES,
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WHO BELIEVE IN COUNTRY BORDERLINES.THESE LINES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT TO THOSE WHO WILL VOTE NO TO ANNEXATION WHO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME 40 YEARS AGO THAT YOUR COMMUNITY DESERVE TO BE INDEPENDENT.
AND THE REASONS FOR LOCAL SELF-GOVERNING WHO FOUGHT TO KEEP DAYTON AT BAY, THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO WILL VOTE NO TO ANNEXATION WHO UNDERSTAND THE MASSIVE PROBLEMS CREATED FOR BETHEL SCHOOLS, BETHEL TEACHERS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BETHEL STUDENTS WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM PAST ANNEXATIONS AND UNWANTED HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO WILL VOTE NO TO ANNEXATION WHO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE PAST, THERE WERE MANY ANNEXATION REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE THAT WERE WELL-PLANNED AND SUPPORTED BY BOTH COMMUNITIES, ACCEPTED BY BOTH COMMUNITIES CONSIDERED POSITIVE BY BOTH COMMUNITIES.
THIS ANNEXATION REQUEST IS NOT ONE OF THOSE THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO WILL VOTE NO TO ANNEXATION WHO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN MONEY.
THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT VOTING YES TO ANNEXATION.
PLEASE REALIZE THE MIAMI COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION THAT THE BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES ARE AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION THAT THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP ARE AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION THAT MANY IN YOUR COMMUNITY ARE AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION BELIEVING HUBER HEIGHTS IS BIG ENOUGH.
THE POPULATION IS LARGE ENOUGH THAT THE TRAFFIC IS BAD ENOUGH, THAT IT'S TIME TO STEP BACK AND TAKE CARE OF OUR CITY PROBLEMS AND LET OTHER COMMUNITIES MANAGE THEIR OWN.
AS TO THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT THE BETHEL TRUSTEE SIGNED, IT IS SIGNED UNDER DURESS AND NOT SUPPORTED BY OUR COMMUNITY.
PLEASE DON'T THINK BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION THAT WE WANT AN AGREEMENT.
THIS AGREEMENT REMINDS ME OF STEEL TRAPS SET OUT BY THE DEVELOPERS.
AND BETHEL TOWNSHIP HAS THEIR LEG CAUGHT IN IT, BLEEDING AND SUFFERING, AND TRYING TO SURVIVE.
THE BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES ARE WILLING TO CHEW OFF OUR LEG TO SURVIVE.
NOT A PRETTY PICTURE AND NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
YOU CAN VOTE NO TO THOSE WHO ARE CONSIDERING TO VOTE YES TO THE ANNEXATION.
YOU MIGHT THINK THE TERMS IN THE AGREEMENT ARE WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT, AND YOUR CONSCIOUS WILL BE AT EASE AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
20 YEARS AGO WHEN HUBER STARTED AS MARCH NORTH, ALL THE PROBLEMS OF RAMIFICATIONS WERE NOT IMAGINED.
TODAY WE KNOW THE PROBLEMS AND WE DO NOT HAVE TO CONTINUE THE MADNESS.
HOPEFULLY WE LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES AND HOPEFULLY CHANGE.
EVENTUALLY, WHEN WE ALL GO TO MEET OUR MAKER, THERE WILL BE NO CONSIDERATION TO HOW MUCH MONEY OR POSSESSIONS YOU HAVE.
THE QUESTION WILL BE ASKED, WHAT KIND OF PERSON WERE YOU? HOW DID YOU TREAT YOUR FAMILY? HOW DID YOU TREAT YOUR NEIGHBOR? HOW DID YOU TREAT YOUR FELLOW MAN? HOW YOU, HOW WILL YOU BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? REMEMBER MY EXAMPLE OF ANNEXATION REQUEST REQUESTS? A NEW CITY OF NEW CARLISLE VOTED ON AN ANNEXATION AND PLAN TO BUILD 300 HOUSES WITH NEW CARLISLE'S HIGH DENSITY ZONING, AGAIN, NOT AVAILABLE IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP.
ALSO, THE 300 STUDENTS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN THRUST INTO BETHEL SCHOOLS, AN EXAMPLE OF A CITY PASSING THEIR PROBLEMS ONTO THEIR NEIGHBORS.
THE NEW CARLISLE CITY COUNCIL OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED NO, JUST AS YOU CAN VOTE NO.
BUT THEN THEY VOTED YES TO A HOUSING PROJECT NORTH OF TOWN WITH ALL THEIR, WITHIN THEIR LOCAL COUNTY AND CITY BORDERS.
AS ALWAYS, I'D LIKE LEAVE YOU THE GOLDEN RULE.
DO WANT TO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DOING UNTO YOU.
[8. Citizens Registered To Speak On Agenda Items]
REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS? VERY NOT THIS EVENING, MAYOR.OKAY, NEXT IS NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER
[9. City Manager Report]
REPORT.COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY THIS EVENING.
FIRST, WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A PREVIOUS REQUEST FROM CITY COUNCIL OF THE ENGINEERING HAS COMPLETED A TYPICAL ORDER OF EVENTS SHEET FOR WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.
WHILE THE ORDER OF EVENTS WILL REMAIN CONSISTENT FOR ALL PROJECTS, THE TIME DEDICATED TO EACH ITEM ON THIS LIST WILL VARY.
PROJECT SPECIFIC SHEETS WILL BE CREATED IN THE FUTURE AND AS A TRIAL EFFORT, STAFF WILL BE LOADING SHEETS FOR THE CURRENT HUBBARD ALTERED PROJECT AND NEXT MONTH'S CROOKSTON PROJECT ONTO THE WEBSITE NEXT WEEK.
THE CITY EXECUTED ITS OHIO PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION AGREEMENT LAST WEEK, PAVING THE WAY FOR THE WIDENING OF FISHBURG FISHBURG ROAD, UH, FROM OLD TROY PIKE TO TOMBERG, UH, BUT LIMITED ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UH, THIS IS THE ONLY PORTION OF FISHBURG BETWEEN TROY PIKE AND BRANT PIKE, WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN WIDENED.
THIS PROJECT WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, FOR, UM, EXCUSE ME, FOR THE NEXT MEETING SERIES, UH, TO AUTHORIZE BIDDING IN EARLY AUGUST.
THIS PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED IN THE SPRING OF 2024.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO COUNSEL'S PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ON ITEM 11 J ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, LJ DEWE HAS AGREED TO REDUCE THEIR LENGTH OF PROJECT FROM 570 DAYS TO 370 DAYS.
UH, THIS COMMITMENT WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE FINAL CONTRACT PENDING COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THAT
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CONTRACT LATER TONIGHT.UH, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, STARTING TOMORROW, TUESDAY, JULY 11TH, BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD BETWEEN TAYLORSVILLE AND SHOLL WILL BE CLOSED MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM SEVEN TO 7:00 AM TO 5:00 PM THE ROAD IS BEING CLOSED AT EXPEDITE THE INSTALLATION OF NEW WATER MAIN.
THIS WATER MAIN WILL CONNECT CENTER POINT 70 TO THE REST OF THE CITY'S WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
GENERAL TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS WILL BE DETOURED TO BRANT PIKE.
UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION HOURS, DURING CONSTRUCTION HOURS, LOCAL TRAFFIC WILL HAVE ACCESS, UH, UH, TO, UH, THEIR VARIOUS PROPERTIES, UH, UH, THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE.
THE SECTION OF BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD BETWEEN CHAMBERSBURG AND TAYLORSVILLE IS SCHEDULED TO REOPEN TO UNRESTRICTED TRAFFIC NEXT WEEK.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS COUNSEL HAS.
UH, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? YES, DON.
THANK YOU MAYOR BRIAN, REGARDING THE BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD PROJECT, HAS STAFF IDENTIFIED ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE RESIDENCE? I DID NOTICE THAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR DRIVEWAYS DURING THE PROJECT EVEN THOUGH THE ROAD IS CLOSED.
HAS STAFF IDENTIFIED ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT THE RESIDENCE NEED TO BE AWARE OF? UH, NO OTHER CONCERNS, UH, HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION FROM ENGINEERING TO PASS ON TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO COME ACROSS SUCH INFORMATION, WE'LL PUT IT ONLINE, UM, AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, UH, GETS RELEVANT, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA TRAFFIC AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? YES, RICHARD.
UH, BRIAN, AT THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT THE OOC CONNECTION HAD BEEN APPROVED ALONG WITH THE LIGHT TIME IS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE KNOW WHAT THE ANTICIPATED ETA OF THAT IS? UH, I DO NOT.
WE HAVE OUR, UH, REGULARLY SCHEDULED STAFF MEETING TOMORROW, AND THAT IS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
SO I SHOULD HAVE AN UPDATE FOR COUNSEL, UH, FOLLOWING TOMORROW MORNING.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, IT, IT WAS MENTIONED, UH, DURING YOUR, UH, DURING THE LAST MEETING, UH, THAT RAZZI FIREWORKS HAD AN, HAD A ISSUE WITH THE AUTOMATED SHOOTING SYSTEM, UH, IN THE AGREEMENT THIS COUNCIL HAD PASSED BACK IN, UH, NOVEMBER OF 2022.
UH, WE AUTHORIZED A $50,000 A YEAR SHOW ON PAGE FIVE OF THAT AGREEMENT.
IT DOES SPEAK TO RAIN DATES AND MALFUNCTIONS.
HAS STAFF REVIEWED THAT ME THOSE MEASURES YET AND DETERMINED WHAT ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN? UH, YES.
UH, CHIEF KNISELY IS, UH, CURRENTLY SPEAKING WITH RAZZI ABOUT, UH, HOW THAT ISSUE WILL BE ADDRESSED MOVING FORWARD.
AND I ASSUME COUNSEL WILL BE GETTING AN UPDATE ON THAT, UH, ONCE WE HAVE A FINAL, UH, DISPOSITION ON THAT? YES, WE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO COUNSEL.
UH, MY LAST COMMENTS DURING THIS TIME, MAYOR, UM, UH, BRIAN, YOU HAD MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, THAT ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, UH, OF THIS YEAR, COUNSEL WILL BE RECEIVING A COMPLETE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, REGARDING THE SPLASH PAD.
AM I CORRECT ON THAT? I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
MAYOR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME.
UH, AND RICHARD ALSO, I I HAD A FEW PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME THAT SAID, UM, FROM THE LIGHT SEQUENCING, SO I KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE ALL UPGRADED OR THE SIGNAL BOX HARDWARE HAS BEEN DONE.
BUT, UH, I DID HAVE FEW PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME AND LET ME KNOW THAT THEY GOT FROM TAYLORSVILLE TO I 70, ALL GREEN LIGHTS.
SO I DON'T, THAT'S JUST A, A ONE OFF.
BUT I MEAN, I'VE HAD PEOPLE TELL ME THAT THEY'VE GOT THROUGH ALL THOSE LIGHTS, ALL OF 'EM BEING GREEN.
SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT SINKING OF THOSE LIGHTS HAS, HAS ACTUALLY BEEN COMPLETED.
UH, BUT, UH, I, I'M SURE THAT, UH, UH, WITH RESIDENTS HAVING KNOWN THAT INFORMATION, I'M SURE WE'LL BE GETTING ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AS IT PERSISTS.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 10,
[10. Pending Business]
PENDING BUSINESS.THERE IS NONE THIS EVENING, MA'AM.
UH, CITY COUNCIL, NEW BUSINESS ITEM 11
[ A Motion To Appoint Amanda Henry To The Arts And Beautification Commission For A Term Ending June 30, 2026.]
A ITEM 11 A.A MOTION TO APPOINT AMANDA HENRY TO THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION FOR REMAINING JUNE 30TH, 2026.
UH, TONY, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL AND THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND CHECKS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION THIS EVENING.
IS THERE A MOTION NANCY, HAVE TO APPROVE? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SORRY, MS. BAKER? YES.
[ An Ordinance Approving The Editing And Inclusion Of Certain Ordinances And/Or Resolutions As Parts Of The Various Component Codes Of The City Code Of Huber Heights, Ohio; Providing For The Adoption And Publication Of New Matter In The Updated And Revised City Code As Supplement 14; And Repealing Ordinances And Resolutions In Conflict Therewith. (first reading)]
11 B, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE EDITING AND INCLUSION OF CERTAIN ORDINANCES AND OR RESOLUTIONS AS PARTS OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENT CODES OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, PROVIDING FOR THE ADOPTION AND PUBLICATION OF NEW MATTER.AND THE UPDATED AND REVISED CITY CODE IS SUPPLEMENT 14 AND REPEALING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT THEREWITH AT THE FIRST STREET.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, THIS IS THE STANDARD LEGISLATION I BRING BEFORE YOU TO CODIFY LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN PASSED INTO A SUPPLEMENT TO THE CITY CODE.
THIS IS SUPPLEMENT 14, WHICH REPRESENTS LEGISLATION PASSED FROM JANUARY 1ST TO THIS YEAR THROUGH MARCH 31ST, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR.
UM, THIS CAN GO TO A SECOND READING PRIOR TO ADOPTION.
AND APPROPRIATE LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN MADE OF THIS, UH, SUPPLEMENT
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AS REQUIRED IN THE CITY CHARTER.ANY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS TO A SECOND READING.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS, DON? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING TO A SECOND READING? ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO A SECOND READING.
[ An Ordinance Providing For The Continuation Of An Existing .25 Percent Levy On Income Effective January 1, 2025 And Expiring December 31, 2034, And To Submit This Ordinance To The Electorate For Approval Or Rejection And Contingent Upon Such Election Approval, Amend Section 192.012(B) Of Chapter 192, Income Tax, Of Title 9, Taxation Part I, Administration To Reflect The Tax Continuation, And Declaring An Emergency. (first reading)]
ITEM 11 C, AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE CONTINUATION OF AN EXISTING 0.25% LAE ON INCOME EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2025, AN EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST, 2034.AND TO SUBMIT THIS ORDINANCE TO THE ELECTORATE FOR APPROVAL OR REJECTION AND CONTINGENT UPON SUCH ELECTION APPROVAL.
AMEND SECTION 1 92 0.012 B, CHAPTER 1 92, INCOME TAX, TITLE IX TAXATION, PART ONE, ADMINISTRATION TO REFLECT THE TAX CONTINUATION AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AT THE FIRST READING.
BRIAN COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
UH, PURSUANT TO COUNSEL'S DISCUSSION, UH, THIS PARTICULAR MATTER IS ONE OF TWO, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THE, UH, 0.25% PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, LEVY MAKES THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.
UH, WE WOULD ASK THE COUNSEL, MOVE THIS ITEM TO A SECOND READING AND ADOPT AS AN EMERGENCY, UH, AT THE NEXT GENERAL BUSINESS MEETING.
THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS TO A SECOND READING.
ARE THERE ANY OF OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS TO A SECOND? READING? OKAY.
[ A Resolution Specifying November 7, 2023 As The Date For Submitting To The Electorate Of The City Of Huber Heights A Proposal To Provide For The Continuation Of An Existing .25% Levy On Income Effective January 1, 2025, And Expiring December 31, 2034 And Directing The Board Of Elections Of Montgomery County And Miami County, Ohio To Place The Issue On The Ballot. (first reading)]
D.ITEM 11 D A RESOLUTION SPECIFYING NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023 AS THE DATE FOR SUBMITTING TO THE ELECTORATE OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
A PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONTINUATION OF AN EXISTING 0.25% LEVY ON INCOME EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2025, EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST, 2034, AND DIRECTING THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND MIAMI COUNTY, OHIO TO PLACE THE ISSUE ON THE BALLOT AT THE FIRST READING.
BRIAN COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU.
THIS IS THE COMPANION PIECE TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE DIRECTS THE, UH, MATTER TO BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT, UH, FOLLOWING COUNSEL'S ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
UH, PREVIOUSLY READ, UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNSEL, MOVE THIS ITEM ONTO A SECOND READING TO ADOPT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION.
AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, THE WORK SESSION WAS TO MOVE TO A SECOND READING.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS, RICHARD? MAYOR, I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS.
HOWEVER, I DO HAVE A DISCUSSION PIECE ON THIS, IF I MAY.
UH, WILL THIS BE A PART OF THE NEXT WORK SESSION AS WELL? UH, CAMBI.
I, I, I'D CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR.
WE'LL ADD THIS ON TO THE WORK SESSION.
ANYTHING ELSE? YES, ED, YOU MAYOR? UH, PIGGYBACKING ON COUNCILMAN SHAW'S COMMENTS, UM, BRIAN, WILL WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE IMPACT GROUP AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION AND A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPREHENSIVE LAYOUT FROM STAFF ABOUT WHAT, UH, THE NOVEMBER LEVY INITIATIVE AND PROMOTION IS LOOKING LIKE? UH, I'LL NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE IMPACT GROUP ABOUT, UM, THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT IN SUCH A TIMELY MANNER.
UH, BUT, UH, UM, WE, UH, WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME ABOUT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE AND, UH, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD, UM, THROUGH NOVEMBER AND THEREAFTER.
BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE, UM, KIND OF THE IMPORTANCE IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, AT LEAST I KNOW, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR NOVEMBER TO GET IT, UH, PASSED.
I REALLY DON'T WANNA PUT SOMETHING ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT THAT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH INITIATIVE, UH, NOT MUCH PLANNING, AND NOT MUCH OF A SUCCESS FOR PASSING.
UM, SINCE WE'RE JUST ASKING ON THE SUBJECT, UH, BRIAN, I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, I HAD ASKED AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING, UH, PRIOR TO THE PRIMARY ELECTION, UM, WHAT TYPE OF CUTS WE'D BE LOOKING AT.
IF, IF THAT ONE HAD FAILED AND YOU RESPONDED THAT IF IT HAD FAILED, THEN WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING THOSE THINGS PRIOR TO THE NEXT ONE.
UH, WILL WE BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION AS WELL? YES.
WE'LL BE PREPARED TO HAVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNSEL ON, UH, WHAT, UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THE BUDGET REDUCTIONS BE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE NECESSARY OPERATIONAL COSTS.
SHOULD THIS LEAD BE FAIL? WILL THAT BE BEFORE THE NEXT WORK SESSION THEN? UH, I ANTICIPATE BEING PART OF THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
SO WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO THE WORK SESSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND THEN ONTO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WHICH WOULD BE THE SECOND READING AT THAT TIME.
NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE E 11 E, I'M SORRY,
[ A Resolution Imposing A Temporary Moratorium For A Period Of Three Hundred Sixty-Five Days (One Year) On The Acceptance, Consideration And/Or Granting Of Any Applications For Zoning And The Issuance Of Zoning, Occupancy, Or Other Permits For New Self-Storage Facilities Within The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio. (first reading)]
E.YOU'RE THINKING TO THE WORK FISH ITEM 11 E, A RESOLUTION OPPOSING A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM FOR A PERIOD OF 365 DAYS ONE YEAR ON THE ACCEPTANCE, CONSIDERATION, AND OR GRANTING OF ANY APPLICATIONS FOR ZONING IN THE ISSUANCE OF ZONING, OCCUPANCY, OR OTHER PERMITS FOR NEW SELF STORAGE FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO.
THIS LE UH, PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS BROUGHT FORWARD PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S REQUEST,
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UH, TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY PLANNER TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE, UH, THE BEST LOCATIONS OR THE MOST APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS, UH, FOR, UH, STORAGE UNITS WITHIN THE CITY OF FE HEIGHTS.UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION? IS THERE A MOTION NATHAN, MOVE TO ADOPT FOR A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, CLINT? YES.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO TO POSE THIS TO EXACTLY, BUT, UH, I'M, I'M CURIOUS AS TO, WE HAVEN'T BEEN REALLY TOLD WHAT THE ISSUES, WHAT ACTUAL THE ISSUES ARE THAT ARE BEING CAUSED BY, UH, THESE STORAGE FACILITIES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANNA LOOK TO THE MORATORIUM.
I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED, WE MAY HAVE CERTAIN DESIRES ON WHERE THEY WANT, WE WANT 'EM LOCATED AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY MAY LOOK LIKE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT, UM, UH, I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION LAST YEAR ON THIS AS WELL, AND, UH, I'M JUST, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED ANY ISSUES THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THEM SO FAR.
UM, FROM MY STANDPOINT, UH, STORAGE FACILITY IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LOWEST IMPACT BUSINESSES THAT YOU COULD HAVE NEAR A, UH, NEAR A, A DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S LOW VOLUME, LOW NOISE, UM, WELL MAINTAINED TYPICALLY.
UM, I, I, I HAVE NOT HEARD THOSE THINGS, AND UNTIL I UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE, UH, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? HOLD ON ONE SECOND, RICHARD.
SHE IS MAKING A DIRECT COMMENT.
UM, UM, WELL, WHEN THE, UH, STORAGE UNITS WENT IN BEHIND, IS IT WINDBROOK? IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT UP THERE? YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION EVEN BEFORE THEY BUILT, BUT ESPECIALLY AFTER THEY'VE BUILT, WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING THAT FACILITY SO CLOSE TO THEIR RESIDENCE AND LOOKING OUT THEIR BACKYARD AND, AND SEEING THE, THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE POINT OF THE WHOLE MORATORIUM TO PERHAPS TO HAVE PLANNING LOOK AT ALL THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, HAVING STORAGE UNITS AND PERHAPS PROPOSE THE OPTIMUM LOCATION TYPES.
NOT TO SPECIFY ANY LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY, BUT TO DEVELOP A CODE THAT WOULD PRESENT GUIDELINES, UM, ON HOW WE WOULD APPROACH, UM, APPROVING, UH, STORAGE FACILITIES IN THE FUTURE.
AND IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME, AND PROBABLY YOU, SINCE NEITHER ONE OF US ARE BACK TO BACK WITH A, UM, STORAGE FACILITY, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT OF HAVING ONE BEHIND YOU MIGHT BE.
SO IT IS JUST TO TAKE A, A PERIOD OF TIME TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT IT OVERALL, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THAT LAND FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, FOR, FOR ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BRING IN MORE REVENUE TO THE CITY, UM, OR BE MORE, UH, COMPATIBLE, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH IT GOES.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OR BUILDING, UM, YOU KNOW, MATERIALS THE WHOLE BIT.
I THINK BRIAN, UH, I MEAN BRIAN, UH, AARON WANTS TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES AND SEE HOW THEY'VE ASSESSED, UM, THE, THE STORAGE UNIT, UM, ISSUE AND, AND THEN COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN ALL LOOK AT AND SEE WHETHER IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
I, I JUST, I, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS WITH WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AND, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD THAT WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE SEEING.
IS IT JUST THEY DON'T WANNA LOOK AT A PLAIN BUILDING OR, UH, THE SHRUBBERY THAT, THAT, THAT DIVIDES IT FROM THEIR PROPERTY OR, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR, I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS, BUT, UH, I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT STAFF LOOKING INTO IT AND COMING BACK TO US WITH SOME INFORMATION AND, AND IT NEVER CAME BACK.
UM, WELL, WE NEVER REALLY TASKED THEM TO DO IT.
WE SURE, YEAH, WE DID ACTUALLY.
WELL, BUT SINCE THEY DIDN'T DO IT, THIS WILL GIVE THEM TIME TO DO IT.
UM, AS I WASN'T PRESENT AT THE WORK SESSION DUE TO A FAMILY OBLIGATION, I WANTED TO ALLOW TIME TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS HERE.
UM, DURING DISCUSSION AT THE FEBRUARY 8TH, 2022 MEETING, UH, THE LAW DIRECTOR SAID IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON.
UM, AS THOSE COMPANIES WILL SEE THIS COMING AND BUY UP ALL THE LAND, IT WOULD ALLOW STAFF TO COME BACK TO COUNSEL AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE FOUND OUT ABOUT STORAGE UNITS.
UH, THE LAW DIRECTOR ALSO STATED, YOU GENERALLY PUT A MORATORIUM
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ON SOMETHING IF YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING, OR IT'S SOMETHING NEW AND YOU WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO FIGURE THIS OUT.THOSE WERE QUOTES DIRECTLY FROM THE LAW DIRECTOR IN FEBRUARY OF 22.
UM, AT THAT SAME MEETING MYSELF, MR. OTTO AND MS. BURGE, AND I BELIEVE MR. WEBB ALL HAD DIRECTED STAFF THROUGH THE MAYOR AT THAT TIME, THAT WE ARE REQUESTING MORE ACTION ON THAT.
UM, AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION ON THAT AGENDA ITEM, UH, THE CLERK OF COUNCIL, UM, UH, UH, ADVISED THE MAYOR OF WHEN THE NEXT DATE OF THAT COUNCIL WORK SESSION WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD BE FEBRUARY 22ND, 2022.
UH, MS. BURGE AGREED THAT THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF COUNCIL, AS SOME MEMBERS WERE MISSING TO BE PRESENT, UH, TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, UH, THAT DIRECTION WAS PROVIDED.
HOWEVER, THAT NEVER TOOK PLACE, UM, DURING THAT TIME AS WELL.
UM, IT WAS ALLUDED TO, UH, BY COUNCILWOMAN BURGE THAT SHE HAS ISSUES WITH THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS IT TAKES AWAY THE PEACE.
UM, I WILL COMMEND COUNCILWOMAN BURGE AS SHE HAS STAYED STEADFAST ON THOSE COMMENTS FROM THEN TILL NOW.
UM, MARY, YOU HAD STATED DURING THAT, UH, THAT DISCUSSION THAT STORAGE UNITS DO NOT ADD ANYTHING TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND THEY PROVIDE NO TAX REVENUE BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
UH, IT WAS ALSO STATED DURING THAT MEETING, CUZ I HAD INQUIRED AND I BELIEVE SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS AS WELL, HAD MR. WALTON, UH, THE CHAIR OF THE CURRENT PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, EXPRESS CONVERSATIONS, UH, AND, UH, ISSUES TO STAFF.
AND, UM, AND THE RESPONSE WAS YES.
AND I BELIEVE EVEN MR. WEBB AT THAT TIME HAD ASKED, UH, IF, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO START THAT CONVERSATION.
AND, UH, 517 DAYS LATER, THAT HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE.
MAYOR, DURING THAT SAME MEETING YOU HAD SAID THAT STORAGE UNITS ARE A NECESSITY, AND THEN IN THE SAME SENTENCE YOU SAID, THEY ARE NOT A DESIRABLE BUSINESS, UM, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED, UH, RESEARCH ON GASOLINE STATIONS THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED, UM, UH, TO THIS COUNCIL IN AUGUST OF 2022, STATING THAT THERE IS AN ABOVE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF GAS STATIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AS A COMMUNITY OUR SIZE SHOULD ONLY HAVE 15, WE HAVE 22 AND MORE ON THE WAY.
UM, DURING THAT, UM, MEETING ON FEBRUARY 8TH, 2022, OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER HAD STATED, DUE TO CURRENT STAFFING, CURRENT PROJECTS, THIS WOULD NOT BE A PRIORITY.
UM, MY QUESTION, MAYOR, IS I DON'T BELIEVE ANY STAFFING HAS CHANGED.
UM, AND CURRENT PROJECTS HAVE NOT CHANGED, BUT INCREASED.
HOW HAS THIS BECOME A PRIORITY FOR STAFF? I ADDITIONALLY, AS THIS TOPIC, UH, TOOK 483 DAYS TO APPEAR BACK ON JUNE 6TH MEETING.
UH, MAYOR, I DO ASK, UM, DURING YOUR CONVERSATION WITH MR. OTTO ON THE, UM, ANNEXATION, UH, CONVERSATION YOU HAD STATED YOU CANNOT DIRECT STAFF WITHOUT A MAJORITY TO PREPARE ANYTHING TO BRING FORTH.
CAN YOU ADVISE ME THE FIVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT PROVIDED STAFF DIRECTION TO COMPLETE THE, UM, LEGISLATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US ON THIS TOPIC? JUST THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE, THERE WAS A, THERE WASN'T A LACK OF A MAJORITY OF OBJECTION, BUT THERE WERE, THERE WERE FOUR.
MAYOR, UH, A, A MAJORITY, UH, UH, OF, OF COUNSEL THAT'S FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS MUST BE ABLE TO DIRECT STAFF ON A COUNCIL ITEM ACCORDING TO OUR RULES OF COUNCIL TO PROVIDE LEGISLATION AND GIVE LAW DIRECTOR THE AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD TO REVIEW THAT THERE WAS ONLY FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT PROVIDED, UM, UH, A, A MAJORITY TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, NOT FIVE.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THIS OFF? WELL, I, I, I, AND I, THE ONLY REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE MR. OTTO ASKED DURING THE ANNEXATION DISCUSSION TO HAVE STAFF PREPARE LEGISLATION AND MR. OTTO WAS DENIED THE SAME REQUEST THAT MRS. BUR WAS, UH, AVAILABLE TO.
SO YES, AT, AT THIS TIME, MR. UH, UH, MAYOR BECAUSE THIS, UH, LEGISLATION WAS PREPARED, UM, UH, NOT CORRECTLY.
AND WITHOUT DUE DILIGENCE OF THE RULES OF COUNSEL, I ASK THE FIRST AND SECOND BE REMOVED AND THIS ITEM BE TABLED.
SO IS THERE, FIRST WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MOTION.
SO THERE IS A FIRST AND THE SECOND, UNLESS THAT FIRST AND SECOND IS WITHDRAWN STRONG.
SO MR. ROGERS, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MARK? YES, UH, BRIAN? YES.
DO I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AT THE LAST MEETING THAT AARON HAD INDICATED THAT HIM AS THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVELY LIAISON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT THIS? YES.
AND DO I REMEMBER HIM SAYING THAT IT MIGHT BE DONE BEFORE 12 MONTHS? YES.
COULD YOU TELL ME HOW THAT WOULD WORK? IF, IF THIS WAS PASSED TONIGHT
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AND, AND I THINK THE MORATORIUM PERIOD IS 12 MONTHS, IF THEY WERE DONE IN SIX MONTHS, WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WELL, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE PLANNER WOULD PRESENT HIS REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ULTIMATELY TO THE CITY COUNCIL.UH, AND IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS INFORMATION WORTH, UM, ACTING ON, THEN COUNCIL WOULD BE ABLE TO ADOPT NEW CODE, UH, REFLECTIVE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THE MORATORIUM WOULD THEN, UH, BE REMOVED, UH, OR, UH, THE REPORT WOULD COME BACK AND WOULD IDENTIFY THAT, UH, THE CURRENT PRACTICES BY AND LARGE MEET BEST PRACTICES OR MEET STANDARDS AND THE MORATORIUM WOULD BE REMOVED.
SO THE SITUATION MIGHT BE THAT AARON WOULD GIVE A PRESENTATION AFTER IT WAS REVIEWED BY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE RECOMMENDATION COULD BE JUST TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME.
AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAD LOOKED AT THIS ISSUE? UH, GOSH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, SIR, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I, I KNOW IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BECAUSE THIS WAS AN ITEM, UM, TO MR. SHAW'S POINT THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE QUEUE OF WORK TO BRING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
SO SOME TIMEFRAMES THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS 517 DAYS OR 483 DAYS, THIS WOULD BE A PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS.
AND AGAIN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD DO THE REVIEW AND COME BACK AND TELL US EVERYTHING ON THE BOOKS, THE CODE, EVERYTHING'S SATISFACTORY AND LEAVE IT ALONE.
SO ACTUALLY, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
SO BRIAN, WHO, SO WHO, WHO PREPARED THIS LEGISLATION? WAS IT YOU? UH, NO.
THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION WAS PREPARED BY THE PLANNER, MR. SORELL, AND THEN IT WAS SENT IN FOR FINAL STAFF REVIEW BY, UM, EXCUSE ME, BY THE, UM, BY THE LAW DIRECTOR.
UH, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S BASED ON THE MORATORIUM LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF TROY, UH, RECENTLY.
SO WHO, WHO ASKED HIM TO DO THAT? UH, IT WAS, I ASKED HIM TO PREPARE THE LEGISLATION BASED ON THE COMMENTARY THAT, UH, WE HAD HEARD AT THE COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR MATTER AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS A MATTER THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY BY COUNSEL.
SO THE FACT THAT WE HAD HEARD IT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS AT THE DIOCESE DURING WORK SESSION, UM, TO ME IT WAS, UM, WAS IT, AND IT WAS AN ACTIONABLE ITEM.
AND WAS IT A COUNSEL DIRECTIVE TO, TO HAVE YOU HAVE BRIAN DO THAT? UH, OR I'M SORRY TO HAVE AARON DO THAT.
I, I CONSIDERED IT THE WILL OF COUNSEL SINCE THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WE HAD BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT PREVIOUSLY.
AND AS I'D INDICATED AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD LOOK AT IT, BUT IT WASN'T A PRIORITY.
SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS STAFF, THAT YES, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT COUNSEL WANTED TO SEE, AND SO WE GAVE THE, I GAVE THE DIRECTION TO THE PLANNER TO PREPARE IT.
OKAY, BUT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO CORRECT? UH, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, YES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ANITA? SO CAN YOU LOOK AT DOING THIS WITHOUT A MOR MORATORIUM PUT ON? I MEAN, CAN WE SAY, ERIN, GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THIS WITHOUT A MORATORIUM? WE CAN, IF THAT'S THE WILL IF COUNSEL, YES.
BUT THE RISK IN DOING THAT IS THAT WE MAY HAVE MORE, UH, STORAGE COMPANIES COME TO THE CITY IN THE MEANTIME.
AND IF, IF THEY'RE IN THE QUEUE, IF THE ORDINANCE COMES, IF THE, IF THE ORDINANCE OR IF THE, UH, REVISED CODE COMES BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT ANY BUSINESS THAT'S ALREADY IN THE QUEUE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM SO THAT WE CAN PUT ANY FURTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THAT OF THOSE UNITS ON HOLD UNTIL WE ARE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE FRAMEWORK FOR THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS ESTABLISHED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, IN, IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILWOMAN BURG'S COMMENTS, UH, BACK ON FEBRUARY 8TH OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD ACTUALLY, THIS COUNCIL HAD JUST GOT DONE APPROVING ONE SET OF STORAGE UNITS, UM, THAT, UH, VET WAS VETTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THERE WAS A SECOND SET THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED UP ON ROUTE 40, UM, THAT HAD, UM, TAKEN A BIT OF, UH, STAFF, UH, TIME DUE TO SOME ISSUES.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE PUT A MORATORIUM ON TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO OTHER APPLICATIONS TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS THAT THIS HAD PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, AND, UH, HE FELT THAT THERE WAS A WILL OF COUNSEL.
I WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE BECAUSE AGENDA QUICK WOULD SHOW NO FREE, UH, PREVIOUS CONVERSATION TO THAT DATE.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS EMAIL TRAFFIC WITH THE CLERK OF COUNSEL WHO WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION I WAS ASKING FOR THE MORATORIUM DISCUSSION, AND I RESPONDED TO HIM.
UM, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THERE WAS NO OTHER PUBLIC
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DISCUSSION TO GIVE THAT MESSAGE TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER.BUT I SAY THAT TO SAY THIS, SINCE FEBRUARY 8TH, 2022 TO THE CURRENT DATE WE HAVE RIGHT HERE, I HAVE NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF ONE SINGLE STORAGE UNIT APPLICATION TO DATE.
SO AGAIN, WHY THE RUSH? MAY I? YES, BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T HERE AT THE MEETING AS YOU STATED, AARON SAID THAT HE HAD HEARD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS MM-HMM.
SO, AND I READ IN DAYTON NEWS THAT CITY IS NOW LOOKING AT DOING A MORATORIUM ON THEIR STORAGE UNITS.
SO IF THE CITY IS ALL SURROUNDING US, DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH MORATORIUMS AND STORAGE UNITS CAN'T GO THERE, THEN IT WOULD BE APPARENT THAT THEY MIGHT GRAVITATE TOWARD HUB HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE FIGURE OUT HOW MANY OR WHAT TYPE OR JUST EVERYTHING SURROUNDING THAT SUBJECT IS THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED, AND WE NEED TIME TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, DID YOU SAY 571 DAYS AGO THE COUNCIL DIRECTED THEM TO DO AN INVESTIGATION OF THAT UNIT? UH, NO MA'AM.
UM, YEAH, FROM FEBRUARY 8TH, 2022, THE CURRENT DATE IS 517 DAYS.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE DIRECTED THEM.
YOU DIRECTED THEM 517 DAYS AGO.
NO, THERE WAS NO DIRECT, THE DIRECTION WAS GIVEN THROUGH THE MAYOR THAT JUST COME BACK AT THE FEBRUARY 22ND, 2022 WORK SESSION.
I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU, WHAT SHE SAID.
AS I WAS RECOGNIZED, UM, COUNCILMAN BURGE HAS, HAS JUST CONFIRMED THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO NEW APPLICATION OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.
SO IN 517 DAYS, WE'VE HAD NO NEW APPLICATION.
THE PLANNER, UM, IN MY OPINION, COULD HAVE HAD TIME TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD'VE HAD OPTIMAL TIME TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, WITH 517 DAYS ELAPSE WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 365 DAYS TO REVIEW THIS.
THE, AND THE SAME STAFF AND SAME PROJECTS ARE, ARE HERE WHEN THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER SAID AT THAT MEETING AND SAID, THIS WOULD NOT BE A HIGH PRIORITY FOR HIS STAFF, HOWEVER, HE JUST TOLD COUNCIL HERE TODAY THAT HE THOUGHT IT WAS THE WILL OF COUNCIL, THAT THAT PRIORITY NEEDED TO BE PICKED UP.
SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND MY CONFUSION IN THE CONVERSATION THAT'S TAKING PLACE AS TO WHY WE ARE HERE.
ADDITIONALLY, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE IT VERY APPARENT TO RESIDENTS AND, AND, AND VOCALIZED THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DIRECT WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS CAN AND CANNOT COME INTO THIS CITY.
BUT YET WE HAVE AN, AN ABOVE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF GAS STATIONS.
WE HAVE AN ABOVE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AND, AND CHICKEN JOINTS AND PIZZA JOINTS AND CAR WASHES.
BUT WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED ANY PARAMETERS SET FORTH ON THOSE.
AND ADDITIONALLY, WE WANT TO CONTINUE BUILDING AND INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY BY HOMEOWNERS AND, AND APARTMENT, UH, INDIVIDUALS.
BUT WHEN I DID MY RESEARCH IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, AND THAT STILL, UM, MAINTAINS TO HERE TODAY, WHEN I, WHEN I CONTACT A MAJORITY OF THE STORAGE UNIT'S IN OUR CITY, NONE OF THEM ARE SITTING HERE VACANT OR HAVING TROUBLE FILLING THOSE LOCATIONS BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING MORE RESIDENTS TO COME IN HERE AND, AND MOVE INTO APARTMENTS FROM HOUSES OR CONDOS.
AND THAT MEANS THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PUT THEIR STUFF AND TO SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT A VIABLE BUSINESS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
AS I AM A HUGE SUPPORTER OF OUR CHAMBER AND OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UM, I, I THINK THAT IS A VIABLE BUSINESS BECAUSE THAT THOSE STORAGE UNITS COLLECT DOLLARS.
THEY PAY TAXES, YES, THEY MAY ONLY HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE, BUT SO DO NAIL SALONS ONLY HAVE A FEW EMPLOYEES.
CERTAIN, UH, CREDIT UNIONS ONLY HAVE A FEW EMPLOYEES.
SO IF THIS COUNCIL'S GONNA SIT HERE AND DIRECT THAT A BUSINESS IS ONLY VIABLE BY THE AMOUNT OF TAX DOLLARS OR, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT IT HAS, I THINK IS VERY DISINGENUOUS PRECEDENT TO SET MERIT.
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, I, UH, AGAIN, URGE THAT THE FIRST AND SECOND BE REMOVED IN THE SIDE AND BE TABLED.
MY ONLY FOLLOW UP TO ANY OF THAT WOULD BE THAT I DON'T THINK MRS. BURGE IS RECOMMENDING A BAN ON STORAGE FACILITIES.
I DON'T THINK ANY, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE SAY THAT WE WANT TO KEEP STORAGE FACILITIES FROM EVER BUILDING IN THE CITY OF RIGHTS AGAIN, THAT PEOPLE WON'T NEED THEM, PEOPLE SHOULDN'T USE THEM.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY LANGUAGE LIKE THAT FROM ANYONE.
UH, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT YES, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES AROUND US WHO ARE, UM, LOOKING INTO THEIR ZONING CODES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MUCH TIGHTER AROUND WHERE, UM, AN INDUSTRIAL LOOKING STORAGE FACILITY MAY GO AND THEY DON'T POP UP IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE, UH, THINK THE TIMING OF PLANNING COMMISSION OR
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THE PLANNER OR, OR WHAT THEY'VE DONE OR HOW THEY'VE ADDRESSED IT, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW, TAKES AWAY FROM THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, PAUSING THIS TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ZONING AROUND THEM ARE GOOD.SO, SO WHEN ANOTHER ONE DOES COME FORWARD, IT MATCHES WHAT WE THINK IS APPROPRIATE AND WE CAN APPROVE, UH, WHATEVER APPROVALS THEY NEED TO BUILD ONCE WE HAVE SOME, UH, GUIDELINES MORE IN ORDER FOR WHAT WE WOULD, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
SO I THINK IF, IF THIS WAS A PROPOSAL TO BAN A, A BUSINESS OR TO NEVER LET THEM BUILD HERE, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT AT ALL.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD.
UM, AND AGAIN, I READ THE SAME ARTICLE THAT MRS. BIRD SAW, TIP CITY, THEIR COUNSEL HAS JUST TAKEN ACTION TO PLACE THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF MORATORIUM IN THEIR BUSINESS, UH, OR IN THEIR CITY.
YOU CAN READ THAT, THAT ARTICLE.
AND IT DISCUSSES ALL THE EXACT SAME REASONS THAT WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED HERE, WHAT MRS. BIRD JUST SAID, TO ALLOW THEM SOME TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE THESE GET BUILT, UH, FITS WHAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR AND AFTER, UM, NOT KEEPING THEM FROM EVER BUILDING AGAIN.
SO I THINK FROM YOUR COMMENTS, RICHARD, I THINK WOULD BE A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS TO MAKE ANYONE THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS, TO JUST NOT ALLOW THEM TO BE BUILT HERE, RATHER THAN MAKING SURE THAT THEY FIT IN THE AREA OF ZONING THE WAY WE WOULD DO ANY OTHER ZONING APPLICATION THAT COMES BEFORE US.
BUT NOW, IF THERE IS A MORATORIUM AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNER HAS A TIME TO PUT THAT TOGETHER, THEN THOSE PERSPECTIVE BUSINESSES WILL KNOW WAY IN ADVANCE WHAT OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCES ARE AROUND THAT.
AND BEING THAT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME TIME TO MAKE SURE OUR CODES ARE TOGETHER, UM, AND NOT SAYING OUTRIGHT THEY CAN'T BUILD HERE.
I, ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT MAYOR.
IF I, IF I, AND NEITHER AND NEITHER DO SOME OTHER CITIES AND OUR NEIGHBORS AROUND US, MY APOLOGIES FOR MR. MAYOR.
MAY I, MAY I RESPOND TO THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT? SURE.
UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
UM, HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CITY'S HISTORY IN THE PAST SIX TO SEVEN YEARS, UM, EVERY TIME THAT THIS COUNCIL PASSES A MORATORIUM, IT'S BACKED UP WITH A BAN.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT, MAYOR? NO.
THE ONLY ONE, THE ONLY I CAN THINK OF THAT YOU'RE TAKING PROBABLY ISSUE WITH IS THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
THAT IS THE ONLY MORATORIUM THAT THIS COUNCIL HA HAS PUT ON IN THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
AND WAS MEDICAL MARIJUANA ABANDONED THE CITY? I BELIEVE IT WAS, YES.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE DISINGENUOUS.
IT WOULD BE FACTUAL THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS A PRESIDENT FROM, FOR STATING, LET'S PUT A MORATORIUM AND LET'S REVIEW IT BECAUSE I WROTE SEVERAL PIECES OF HIS LEGISLATION AND THEN TURN AROUND AND SAY, MM, WE'RE JUST GONNA BAN IT.
SO IT'S NOT DISINGENUOUS WHEN PRECEDENT'S BEEN SET FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S MY CAUTION AND AS A CAUTIONARY OF SEVERAL, UH, OTHERS, UH, AND THAT'S WHY I BRING THAT UP HERE TONIGHT, RICHARD.
I APPRECIATE THAT AND RESPECT IT.
AND AS ALWAYS, THE WISH OF COUNSEL CAN, CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES OR HOWEVER THEY WANT TO.
I THINK AT THE LAST WORK SESSION, MR. LYONS AND MR. OTTO EVEN JUST DISAGREED ON WHAT A MORATORIUM MEANT, HOW LONG IT COULD LAST.
BUT AS, UH, AS A WILL OF COUNSEL, WE CAN DO, WE CAN DO WHATEVER THE, THE MAJORITY OF COUNSEL CHOOSES.
MAYOR, COULD WE HAVE A CLARIFICATION OF THE RULES? I THINK MR. SHAW SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE FIVE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR.
WE DIDN'T HAVE FIVE OBJECTIONS AGAINST IT.
IS THAT HOW THE CHARTER READ? WELL, DO WE NEED TO HAVE THE LAW DIRECTOR TALK ABOUT THAT? I THINK IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE BASED AROUND OUR RULES OF COUNSEL.
I THINK PROBABLY TONY IS PROBABLY THE RESIDENT EXPERT TO JUST WONDERING, I THINK THE PROCESS THAT THE MAYORS USED WHEN SOMETHING'S UP FOR DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION, THAT IF THERE'S NOT A MAJORITY OF OBJECTION, SHE WOULD, IT CONTINUES.
SO THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THE MORATORIUM PROCESS TO THIS EVENING.
SO I THINK, SO NANCY HAS MADE THE MOTION KEEP, DID YOU, YOU SECONDED IT.
SO THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL DEAL WITH THE MOTION A SECOND THAT'S ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? DON, WHY NOT? SO, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT STORAGE, UM, STORAGE UNITS IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
THE PROBLEM, UM, COUNSEL, IS THAT WE HAVE VERY FEW RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHERE IT GOES.
OUR CODE, TO USE A PHRASE, OUR CODE IS WIDE OPEN.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT IT DOESN'T GRANT US WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A REAL PRIVILEGE THAT WE HAD WHEN IT CAME TO THE STORAGE UNITS ON 40, IF YOU RECALL, DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, MEETINGS, AND, UH, EVEN DURING THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, AS WE DISCUSSED THOSE STORAGE UNITS THAT WERE GOING IN ON 40, WE HAD AN ADVANTAGE.
THE ADVANTAGE WAS, THAT WAS IN A PLANNED COMMERCIAL, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
IT WASN'T A PLANNED ZONING SINCE IT WAS IN A PLANNED ZONING.
THE RESIDENTS CAME FORTH WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT
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IDEAS, UM, SUGGESTIONS, THINGS THAT WE WERE NOT THE CODE WOULD NOT HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO DO HAD THEY BEEN IN ANITA'S WARD BACKING UP TO A, A GROUP OF HOMES.BUT BECAUSE IT WAS IN A PLANNED DISTRICT PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ABLE TO INSIST ON, UM, PLANTINGS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UH, DRIVE-IN THE ENTRANCE, UH, TO THE STORAGE FACILITY.
SO THE HEADLIGHTS WOULD BE BLOCKED FROM A HOUSE THAT WAS TWO BLOCKS AWAY.
BASICALLY, PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE MORE THAN A BUFFER BETWEEN THE, THE, THE MINIMUM BUFFER BETWEEN THE BUSINESS AND THE HOMES THAT BACKED UP ALONG TO IT AND WINDBROOK.
SO BECAUSE IT WAS IN A PLANNED AREA, PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THAT DEVELOPER TO GET SEVERAL THINGS.
I MEAN, LET'S FACE IT, THE PEOPLE IN WINDBROOK DON'T LIKE HAVING A STORAGE FACILITY IN THE BACK IN THEIR BACKYARDS, BUT BECAUSE WE WERE MOVING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET SOME OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE THAT DEVELOPMENT MORE PALATABLE TO THEM.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IN THIS MORATORIUM, IF I UNDERSTAND NANCY CORRECTLY, IS LET'S FIX IT NOW, RICHARD, YOU SAID IT'S BEEN 500 AND WHATEVER DAYS, LET'S FIX IT NOW.
A MORATORIUM, A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON STORAGE FACILITIES.
WHILE WE HAVE NO APPLICANTS IN THE PIPELINE, LET'S FIX IT.
GET THE LANGUAGE ADJUSTED, PUT THEM WHERE WE WANT TO SEE THEM, AND PUT THEM IN WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT WE WANNA SEE DONE.
NOT UNLIKE CENTERVILLE, TROY TIP, CITY CENTERVILLE'S IS DONE.
IT TOOK THEM A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR TO GET THEIRS DONE, AND THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN SET OF REGULATIONS REGARDING STORAGE FACILITIES.
SO MY ARGUMENT FOR THIS IS SIMPLY THIS.
I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH TIME HAS PASSED.
IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP WITH EVERY SINGLE STORAGE FACILITY THAT'S COME INTO THE CITY.
AND THAT HAS COME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WITH GOOD RESULTS WHEN IT HAS COME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE THERE WAS THAT BACK AND FORTH, GIVE AND TAKE.
IF THIS STORAGE FACILITY, UH, DECIDES TO LOCATE ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN ANITA'S WARD OR IN ED'S WARD, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS ON EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY.
MORATORIUM WILL ALLOW AARON AND PLANNING COMMISSION TIME TO DEVELOP THE REGULATIONS THEY NEED SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY MOVING FORWARD ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT WANT TO PUT IN A STORAGE FACILITY.
IT WILL BE VERY CLEAR TO THEM WHAT IS PERMITTED AND NOT PERMITTED IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
SO GLENN, I WANNA SAY, DONNA, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS GREATLY.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE ABSOLUTELY TRUE, WHICH IS WHY I'M AGAINST THIS.
A WE HAVE A GREAT PROCESS THAT THESE BUSINESSES GO THROUGH AND GET VETTED AND THEY GOTTA GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY GOTTA COME THROUGH US SO WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGES, MAKE THEM MORE ACCEPTABLE.
THE COMMUNITY, UM, UH, IT HAD BEEN MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT APPLICATIONS, HAVEN'T SEEN ANY SINCE THE LAST ONE THAT WENT UP ON 40.
SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE IN A TIME CRUNCH.
THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING STUFFED INTO THE CITY.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU MENTIONED OTHER COMMUNITIES ALREADY HAVING THEIR, UM, CHANGES IN PLACE AND PUT IN, WHICH MAKES IT THAT MUCH EASIER FOR US.
IT SHOULDN'T TAKE US A COUPLE OF MEETINGS TO PULL THAT INFORMATION AND PUT A PIECE OF LEGISLATION TOGETHER IF THAT'S WHAT WE CHOOSE TO DO.
SO I JUST DON'T SEE A NEED, ANY NEED WHATSOEVER FOR A MORATORIUM ON THIS THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF IT JUST FEELS LIKE AN ATTACK ON, ON, UH, STORAGE FACILITIES.
UM, WHICH I, I DON'T HAVE A, AN OVERT LOVE FOR STORAGE FACILITIES, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THEM EITHER.
AND NOW I GET, THE ONLY THING I'VE REALLY HEARD FROM ANYONE THAT SAYS WE DON'T WANT THEM BECAUSE IS THEY DON'T MAKE MUCH MONEY.
THEY DON'T PAY A LOT OF TAXES, I SHOULD SAY.
WELL, THAT'S TRUE OF JUST ABOUT EVERY MOM AND POP BUSINESS IN THIS CITY.
SO IF, IF THAT'S OUR REASONING, THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE STANDING AGAINST SMALL BUSINESS.
AND, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE LAID OUT AS TO WHY WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THIS AND, AND WHAT THE ISSUES ARE IS THE LACK OF INCOME.
UM, THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM IN MY OPINION.
I, I JUST, BUT TO FINISH IT, I DON'T SEE WITH WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING, HOW IT'S GONNA TAKE A YEAR TO COME UP WITH ANY OF THIS STUFF.
IT'S JUST UNNECESSARY BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE IT PROBABLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS OR MONTH.
LOOK AT IT, APPROVE IT, MOVE FORWARD.
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I'LL STOP THERE.THANK YOU TO, MAY I RESPOND? SURE, SURE.
BRIAN, A STORAGE FACILITY COMES TO US TOMORROW FOR A, UM, AVAILABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY.
UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD PLANNING COMMISSION NOT EVEN SEE THAT, UM, STORAGE FACILITY? UH, THERE WOULDN'T BE, I CAN'T THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE MANY REASONS WHY IT WOULDN'T AT LEAST MAKE IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND IF IT DIDN'T MAKE IT, AT LEAST TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, THE OPERATIVE ROUTE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF, UH, APPEARANCE BEFORE THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS BEFORE IT WOULD MAKE ITS WAY TO THIS BODY IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
IN OTHER WORDS, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT IS THAT NOT EVERY STORAGE FACILITY THAT WOULD COME TO THE CITY WOULD GO BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION IF IT GOES TO AN APPROPRIATELY ZONED PIECE OF PROPERTY ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY AT RISK.
MOST AT RISK ARE THE, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ABUT RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN THE HEART OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
UH, A LOT OF THE NEWER AREAS ARE IN PLAN DISTRICTS AND IN PLAN DISTRICTS.
PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE FINAL SAY.
UH, YOU MENTIONED, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THE OTHER CITIES HAVE THEIRS, UH, IN PLACE.
TIP CITY AND TROY DO NOT HAVE THEIRS IN PLACE.
THEY'VE APPLIED A MORATORIUM SO THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW AND HAVE THEIR CODE READ PROPERLY.
I'LL JUST GIVE YOU ONE MORE EXAMPLE ON THE PROPERTY.
ON 40, ON 40 CITY HAD NO BUSINESS, UH, BEING ABLE TO DO THIS, BUT BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER, THERE ARE NO AUCTIONS ALLOWED AT THE STORAGE FACILITY ON 40, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN AN AUCTION OR NOT AT A STORAGE FACILITY, BUT AN AUCTION REQUIRES PEOPLE PARKING ON EVERY SIDE STREET ALL THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY CROWD THE STORAGE FACILITY FROM MORNING TILL NIGHT.
BUT BECAUSE THAT WAS BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE IN JUST ONE MORE CAVEAT, ONE MORE GIVE AND TAKE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND THE STORAGE FACILITY.
GLENN, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO, TO GET THROUGH, I AGREE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS TAKING 365 DAYS.
I WOULD BE, I ASKED AARON DIRECTLY AT THIS LAST MEETING AT THE WORK SESSION, HOW LONG CAN YOU, YOU THINK IT'LL TAKE? AND HIS GUESSTIMATE WAS SIX MONTHS.
SO, UH, IF 365 DAYS IS A NUMBER THAT WE'RE THROWING OUT THERE FOR A MORATORIUM, LET'S GET OUR CODE FIXED, GET EVERYTHING ALIGNED SO THAT WE DON'T WIND UP WITH A DEVELOPER COMING TO US NEXT WEEK FOR SOME PARCEL IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN WHERE THOSE OF YOU WHO REPRESENT THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, INCLUDING YOURSELF, MR. OTTO, ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT A GROUP OF NEIGHBORS COMING FORTH TO YOU SAYING, I DON'T WANT, UH, A GUY PULLING HIS FISHING BOAT OUT OF HIS STORAGE TRAILER AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, 40 FEET FROM MY HOUSE.
THEY CAN DO IT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING.
SO, REAL ONE REAL QUICK, GLENN, THEN I'LL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU.
UM, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ZONING CODE WHEN FOR STRAIGHT PLAN DISTRICTS, JUST AN EXAMPLE, I WASN'T ON THIS COUNCIL WHEN IT HAPPENED, BUT THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF IS IF WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO PREVENT IT.
THE FLYING EAST CAR WASH ON MER LEE WAY IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
THAT WAS A STRAIGHT ZONED PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT NEVER WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
COUNCIL, COUNCIL NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT.
IT WAS APPROVED AND THERE IT WAS BECAUSE THE ZONING MATCHED THE BUSINESS THAT THEY WANTED THERE.
HINDSIGHT BEING 2020, IF THAT HAD CAME TO A PLANNING COMMISSION AND CLAIMED, YOU KNOW, CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCILS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT AND STUDY THOSE AND HAVE AN ACTUAL, UM, TRAFFIC STUDY AND, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT MATCHED ALONG THERE, I'M SURE ALL OF US AT THIS NICE NOW PROBABLY WOULD'VE APPRECIATED THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT DONNA JUST MADE ME THINK WHERE, WHEN YOU HAD SAID, BECAUSE THE TYPE OF ZONING IT WAS AND WAS A PLANNED DISTRICT THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THAT THEY HAD TO COME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION.
BUT WHEN A PROPERTY IS STRAIGHT ZONED AND IT MATCHES, WE'RE NEVER GONNA SEE IT.
PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NEVER SEE IT.
THEY'LL NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO NEGOTIATE THOSE TERMS AND THOSE CONDITIONS, YOU'LL JUST END UP WITH ANOTHER CAR WASH AND WHAT'S ALREADY A VERY PLACE THAT WE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TRY TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT, WHAT MR. WEBB WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.
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GLENN, THANK YOU MAYOR.I WANNA SQUASH SOME EXAGGERATIONS.
I HAVE BEEN TO SOME AUCTIONS AT THOSE FACILITIES IN, IN MY PAST AND, UM, I THINK, UM, A LARGE CROWD WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT A DOZEN PEOPLE.
UM, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, CARS STACKED ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH CROWDS OF PEOPLE.
IT'S JUST THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
UH, I HAVE YET TO EXPERIENCE IT ANYWAY.
AND TO SOMEBODY PULLING THEIR BASS BOAT OUT OF A STORAGE FACILITY AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
UH, MY DAD FISH PROFESSIONALLY, UH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO, AND NONE OF THOSE GUYS ARE PUTTING THEIR 8,000 THOUSAND DOLLARS RIGS INTO A STORAGE FACILITY WHEN THEY'RE NOT USING THEM.
UM, SO THESE THINGS, UH, I THINK THEY'RE EXAGGERATIONS I THINK IT'S UNNECESSARY TO POINT THAT OUT.
THIS IS, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SEVERELY LOW IMPACT BUSINESS.
UM, THAT, OTHER THAN SAYING, I DON'T WANT A STORAGE FACILITY BEHIND ME, THAT'S ALL I'VE HEARD.
I HAVEN'T HEARD WHY, CUZ IT'S NOISY.
AGAIN, WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS AND IT'S BEEN STATED BY OTHERS IN THE PAST, NOT ME, THAT THESE ARE VERY LOW IMPACT BUSINESSES TO, TO RESIDENT TO NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, WE, UH, I'M FULLY ON BOARD WITH HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, BUT TO PUT UP A MORATORIUM TO DO IT, I JUST FIND UNNECESSARY, ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY.
UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE STORAGE, UH, LOCATION IN THE CITY THAT HOLDS A LIVE AUCTIONS.
UH, EVERY OTHER LOCATION USES EITHER LOCKER, LOCKER, FOX, OR STORAGE TREASURES, UH, TO DIGITALLY, UH, DE PLACE THEIR, UM, UH, UNITS.
UM, THE LATEST ONE, UH, TRANSFERRED OVER IN JULY OF LAST YEAR.
UM, SO THE FACT OF, OF AUCTIONS BACK IN THE DAY, PEOPLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THE ONLY ONE PLACE IN TOWN OCCURS IS U-HAUL.
AND THIS COUNCIL, MANY MEMBERS ON THIS COUNCIL APPROVED U-HAUL, AND WE STILL TO THAT DATE, HAVE NOT PUT ANY NEW PARAMETERS IN PLACE.
YOU'RE GETTING HUNG UP ON AUCTIONS AND, UH, A GUY WHO HAS PROFESSIONAL BASS FISHING BOATS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT NOISE THAT CAN COME FROM A STORAGE FACILITY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT AUCTIONS THAT OCCUR ON THE BRANT PIKE STORAGE FACILITY, WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, WHICH HAVE CARS ALL THE WAY OUT TO BRANT PIKE.
BUT LET'S NOT GET HUNG UP ON THAT.
LET ME GO BACK TO MY INITIAL STATEMENT THAT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS CURRENT ZONING CODES, PERMIT STORAGE FACILITIES IN METHODS AND AREAS THAT MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS WOULD NOT APPROVE OF IF IT WERE LOCATED IN THEIR BACKYARD.
SO WHY NOT TAKE THE TIME TO GET THIS RIGHT.
I I AM 100% IN FAVOR OF THIS MORATORIUM AND I THINK WE'RE TALKING IT TO DEATH.
I WOULD CALL FOR THE QUESTION MAYOR MARK.
SO, ANYHOW, DON HAS CALLED THE QUESTION, SO WE'RE FROM, UH,
RIGHT? I THINK, I THINK EVERYBODY HAS SAID WE'RE THE CALL TO QUESTIONS IN THE DISCUSSION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ALREADY ON THE TABLE.
DOES IT, DOES IT TAKE A SECOND TO, UH, CALL TO QUESTION OR, SO IF WE HAVE A CALL TO QUESTION AND YOU WOULD VOTE ON THE CALL OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, QUESTION AND END THE DEBATE.
UM, IT REQUIRES TWO THIRDS OF A VOTE, UM, SHOULD BE SIX VOTES TO, UH, TO CALL THE QUESTION AND END DEBATE.
CONTINUE, CONTINUE SPEAKING, MARK.
BRIAN, DON WEBB IS TALKING ABOUT PLANNED ZONING YES.
WHICH HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN TELL THEM HOW MANY PIECES OF, UH, LANDSCAPING THE HEIGHT, THE SIZE, THE SIGNAGE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION HAS A LOT OF AUTHORITY WHEN IT'S A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THE CONCERN IS THE CONCERN IS STRAIGHT ZONING.
THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS CURRENTLY CAN WE BUILD A STORAGE FACILITY? UM, IN REVIEWING THE CODE, THERE'S FIVE B2, B3, EMPLOYMENT PARK, I, ONE AND I TWO, UH, SELF STORAGE ARE ALL, UM, USES BY RIGHT.
AND, UH, ANY SUBMITTALS IN THOSE
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DISTRICTS WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO STAFF REVIEW AND APPROVAL.DON IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? EXACTLY.
THAT, THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ME.
UM, AND, AND RICHARD, I I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING, GENUINELY, I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THAT IT'S BEEN 517 DAYS.
WE NEED TO KEEP BETTER TRACK OF THESE THINGS AS STAFF AND COUNSEL.
SO IT ISN'T 517 DAYS BECAUSE HAD WE DEALT WITH IT THEN THE 365 DAYS WOULD BE OVER.
UM, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A COMPROMISE AND GET SOME HELP FROM TONY ROGERS.
IF I MAY, I KNOW THERE'S A FIRST AND A SECOND.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE PLANNING COMMISSION MAYBE BOUND BY A SIX MONTH TIME PERIOD.
AND IF THEY NEEDED LONGER COME TO COUNSEL, HAVE AARON COME AND PRESENT THAT FOR AN EXTENSION.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND.
WHAT IT WOULD BE, UM, IS THAT, UH, THEY WOULD'VE TO WITHDRAW THE FIRST AND SECOND TO ADOPT, UH, THERE'D BE AN, A MOTION TO AMEND THE RELEVANT, UH, TITLE AND SECTIONS OF THE RESOLUTION TO CHANGE WHEREVER IT MENTIONS 365 DAYS OR ONE YEAR TO, UH, SIX MONTHS OR 180 DAYS.
UH, WHICHEVER YOU'D BE YOUR PREFERENCE.
I, I THINK THE DISCUSSION, ALTHOUGH AT A BUSINESS MEETING HAS WENT PRETTY LONG.
UH, I WASN'T AWARE OF THE, UH, RATIO OF GAS STATIONS, RICHARD, UH, UNTIL YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.
BUT THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT BY OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO WE ARE BALANCED IN HUBER HEIGHTS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
BUT YEAH, IF, IF I COULD, WELL FIRST, NANCY AND KATE WOULD HAVE TO WITHDRAW THE, THE EMOTION OR ADOPTION IN THE SITE.
WELL, I AM HESITANT TO WITHDRAW BECAUSE, UM, IT DOES NOT, SENDING IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT PREVENT, UM, FUTURE, UH, STORAGE FACILITIES FROM APPLYING.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S SUGGESTING.
I THINK, UH, MR. CAMPBELL'S JUST SUGGESTING CHANGING THE, THE MORATORIUM FROM ONE YEAR TO SIX MONTHS TO END.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
CAN I ASK SOME RATIONALE? SIX IS A COMPROMISE TO 12.
NUMBER TWO, THERE IS A CONCERN, DON BRINGS UP A VERY SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT STRAIGHT ZONING AND IT DOES ALLOW US SOME PROTECTION.
I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE COMPROMISE.
AND WHAT ELSE WOULD I THINK? OKAY.
WELL YOU WITHDRAW ALL THE SECOND.
SO THEN, SO WELL MARK, WOULD YOU MAKE A MOTION TO FORMAL, A MOTION TO AMEND BECAUSE WE WOULD, SO IF WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THIS NOW, WE NEED A MOTION TO AMEND, AMEND A SECOND, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN CALL THE ROLL AFTER.
YOU'D LIKE ME TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND? YES, PLEASE.
SO THE MOTION TO AMEND WOULD BE TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION UNDER DISCUSSION TO REMOVE, UH, OR ACTUALLY TO CHANGE, UH, ANY REFERENCES IN THE TITLE IN THE SECTIONS AND BODY OF THE LEGISLATION FROM ONE YEAR TO 180 DAYS.
I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING SIX MONTHS.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU CHECK YOUR MATH
SO A MOTION, A SECOND TO AMEND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? ANITA? I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF A COMPROMISE IF ALSO WE COULD LOOK THE NEXT TIME TALK ABOUT THE GAS STATION ISSUE, BECAUSE THAT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL THING THAT WE ARE LETTING A LOT OF GAS STATIONS IN.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT GAS STATIONS AS WELL.
AND AS LONG AS WE CAN KIND OF START DOING THAT, I WILL BE OKAY WITH THE COMPROMISE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THE DISCUSSION REGARDING GAS STATIONS TO, TO WORK TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
AND YOU, I'M ONLY ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, UH, TALK ABOUT IN A WORK SESSION FORMALLY PUT TOGETHER AND HAVE THAT REVIEWED AS WELL.
AND, AND I THINK, RICHARD, YOU MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT UP ONE OR TWO MORE THINGS.
UH, UM, STAFF DID PROVIDE COUNSEL, UH, DOCUMENTATION IN AUGUST OF 2022, UH, REGARDING THE FUEL STATION.
UM, AND, AND, AND EVEN I BELIEVE PROVIDED SOME, UM, HIGH END.
I WANNA SAY IT'S SOME FIGURES TO GO WITH
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THAT.UM, BUT I, I DO KNOW, UM, FROM NOT ONLY SOCIAL MEDIA COMMENTS, BUT COMMENTS, UH, IN THE GROCERY STORE AND AT BASEBALL GAMES OF, UM, UH, CHICKEN PLACES, PIZZA JOINTS, CAR WASHES, UM, ALL OF WHICH SINCE THAT TIME PERIOD.
AND, AND I FEEL BAD ABOUT SAYING THAT BECAUSE MY MOTHER RUNS A DOLLAR STORE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER, UM, SHE'S GRANDFATHERED IN.
WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND ON THE MOTION TO AMEND.
YEAH, MY, MY BRAIN IS SPINNING, SO, OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AMENDMENT? TONY? MR. CAMPBELL? YES.
AND THE MOTION TO AMEND CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
NEXT WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT, NOT MOVE TO ADOPT.
DARE I ASK ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
[ An Ordinance Authorizing Advances And Transfers Between Various Funds Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio And Amending Ordinance No. 2022-O-2562 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2023 And Ending December 31, 2023. (first reading)]
11 F.IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
ITEM 11 F AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ADVANCES AND TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS FUNDS OF THE CITY OF HUBBER HEIGHTS, OHIO.
AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 22 DASH SHOW DASH 25 62 BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HE BRIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2023 AT THE FIRST STREET.
BRIAN COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION PROVIDES FOR, UH, ADVANCES FOR TWO PARTICULAR PROJECTS OF COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
ONE IS THE REHABILITATION OF THE CR DAYTON STRIP MALL FACILITY, AND THE OTHER IS FOR THE, UH, WIDENING OF OLD TROY PIKE FROM MERRILEE WADE TO THE HIGHWAY.
WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, UH, WAIVE THE, THE WAIVE, THE, UH, SECOND READING AND ADOPT THIS ITEM TONIGHT.
THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION, WAS TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING AND ADOPT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO WA RICHARD? MOTION TO WAIVE.
IS THERE A SECOND, DON? I WILL.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO WAIVE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. OTTO? YES.
MOTION WAIVE CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
AND NEXT SHALL HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY, MOVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, MR. LYS? YES.
[ An Ordinance Amending Certain Sections Of Part Eleven, Planning And Zoning Code, Of The City Code Of Huber Heights. (first reading)]
G.AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF PART 11, PLANNING AND ZONING.
CODE OF THE CITY, CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
AT THE FIRST READING, BRIAN, UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION BRINGS TOGETHER SEVERAL REQUESTS THAT HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS FROM COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, MOVE THIS ITEM TO A SECOND.
READING, UH, WAS THE RECOMMENDATION? IS THERE ANY JURY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS ON TO A SECOND READ CASE? NONE.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Contract For The Purchase Of An Emergency Medical Ambulance With Horton Emergency Vehicles Utilizing The State Of Ohio Procurement Schedule And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]
H I'M 11 H.RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL AMBULANCE WITH HOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, UTILIZING THE STATE OF OHIO FOR PROCUREMENT SCHEDULE AND WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST STREAM.
BRIAN? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOS, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED BY THE FIRE CHIEF OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, REQUEST, OR THIS LEGISLATION IS BROUGHT FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN ORDER THE VEHICLE TODAY AND HAVE IT DELIVERED IN TIME FOR ITS SCHEDULED PLACEMENT INTO, UH, THE FLEET.
UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNSEL ADOPT THIS MATTER THIS EVENING, UH, SO THAT, UH, WE CAN ENSURE THAT APPARATUS ARRIVES IN A TIMELY MANNER.
THE VENDOR HAS ALSO, UH, BEEN PRE-QUALIFIED THROUGH THE, UH, STATE OF OHIO, UH, DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
I DID TO, UH, MENTION THAT AS WELL.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, WAIVING OF COMPETITIVE BID, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A MOTION, NANCY, I HAVE TO ADOPT.
IS THERE A SECOND? ANITA SECOND.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? TONY, MRS. KITCHEN? YES.
THE MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM 11
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into Contracts For The 2023 Water Main Replacement Project. (first reading)]
A.AYE, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS FOR THE 2023
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WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT AT THE FIRST THREE.THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, AS WE DISCUSSED, UH, AUTHORIZES THE NEXT ROUND OF, UH, WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH ARE SCHEDULED TO BEGIN, UH, IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.
IS THERE MOTION, NANCY? MOVE, MOVE TO ADOPT SECOND.
I WILL SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.
AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I, YES, ANITA? UM, I TALKED TO BRIAN ABOUT THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE CONTRACT.
NOT ONLY THAT, IT SAYS THAT ALTER ROAD HAS TO BE DONE AFTER MEMORIAL DAY OF NEXT YEAR.
CAUSE THE CONTRACT WAS ENDING BEFORE THAT, BUT ALSO CHESS BECAUSE THAT IS THE BACK ENTRANCE THAT A LOT OF STUDENTS USE FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND I WOULD LIKE THAT CLEARLY STATED IN THE CONTRACT BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM IF THEY HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE SEEN AT THE OTHER WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE MOVED THROUGH TO GET TO SCHOOL.
SO I WOULD LIKE THOSE TO BE STATED IN THE CONTRACT THAT THEY ARE TO BE DONE AFTER MEMORIAL DAY OF NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT'S, I WILL ASSUME THAT'S A MOTION TO AMEND.
WELL, THE, THE CONTRACT IS NOT PART OF THE LEGISLATION.
THIS IS JUST A, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER.
SO IT'D BE MORE OF AN ISSUE BRIAN TAKING COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO.
AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
UM, WE CAN WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON DOES NOT IMPACT, UM, OR MINIMALLY IMPACTS, UH, THE FACILITY.
THE ENGINEER AND I WERE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IN PARTICULAR, UH, THOSE ROADS BEING PAVED ON THE WEEKEND AS OPPOSED TO DURING THE WEEK, UM, TO HELP MINIMIZE THOSE THINGS.
BUT WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THERE IS MINIMAL DISRUPTION TO THE SCHOOLS, UH, DURING THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED HOURS.
BUT YOUR IDEA OF MINIMALLY IMPACT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MY IDEA OF MINIMALLY IMPACT.
I MEAN, SO JUST CAN IT BE DONE STARTING AFTER MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND? SO I AM HAPPY TO MAKE THAT REQUEST, BUT NOT KNOWING WHAT THE CONTRACTOR'S PLANS ARE, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE SCHEDULE'S GOING TO BE AND ANY VARIETY OF FACTORS WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT THE SCHEDULE.
I CAN'T COMMIT TO THAT IN THE MEETING WITHOUT HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE ENGINEER.
WHAT I CAN'T COMMIT TO, AND ABSENT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IS THAT WE WILL PUT FORWARD EVERY EFFORT THAT WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT WE MINIMALLY IMPACT IT VERY WELL.
MIGHT BE THAT WE CAN DO IT AFTER MORALLY, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT SINCE I'VE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR OR TO THE ENGINEER.
BUT I THINK I'VE BEEN CLEAR EVEN PRIOR TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS THAT THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S WHY I'VE KIND OF FRUSTRATED THAT IT WASN'T PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR AGREEMENT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PRETTY, I THINK, CLEAR UP HERE THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
MAYOR, IF I MAY, AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT MRS. KITCHEN.
SUGGESTION ASKING COMPROMISE IN SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE THIS EVENING, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAYBE DO IT OVER SPRING BREAK? WOULD THAT BE SATISFACTORY? THERE'S NO WAY IT CAN BE DONE IN ONE WAY.
WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS TAKING ABOUT A MONTH TO SIX WEEKS TO DO THE ROADS.
SO I THINK MY CONCERN WOULD BE WHAT IF THEY FINISHED EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CHASM AND THEN ALTER, LIKE IF THOSE ARE THE LAST TWO THINGS TO BE DONE, BUT THEY WERE FINISHED IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH, WERE YOU GONNA HAVE A CONTRACTOR WILLING THEN TO STOP WORK ALTOGETHER AND THEN COME AND THEN WAIT TWO MONTHS AND THEN COME BACK TO THIS PROJECT? I MEAN, IF THEY, I I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE GET IN, GET INTO A HANGUP YEAH.
WOULD BE IF THEY FINISHED EVERYTHING ELSE AND THOSE WERE THE LAST TWO STREETS AND IT WAS STILL BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY.
THEN HOW MUCH TIME DO WE LOSE? OR WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO GET THAT CONTRACTOR TO LEAVE, GO DO SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE PRIME WORKING SEASON FOR THEM AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK AND THEN DOES THAT CHANGE COST OR, UM, OR WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO DO THAT OR, OR MAKE IT A WHOLE OTHER SURE.
YOU KNOW, MAKE DOING THOSE A WHOLE OTHER PART OF THE PROJECT IN ANOTHER, IN ANOTHER PHASE.
SO AGAIN, I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T MAKE ANY COMMITMENTS BECAUSE I, I, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THE CONTRACTOR.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WE HAVE CLEARLY HEARD THAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ENDEAVOR, TO TAKE EVERY EFFORT WE CAN TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT, UM, THAT THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE ON THOSE SCHOOLS WITHOUT TALKING TO THE ENGINEER, WITHOUT TALKING TO THE CONTRACTOR.
THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER WITH ANY DEFINITIVE, UH, OUTCOME THAT, THAT WORK WILL NOT HAPPEN DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
I CAN SAY THAT WE CAN DO OUR BEST TO MINIMIZE THE EFFORT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
NOW MAYBE THAT IS THE WORK GETS DONE DURING THE SUMMER AND NOT DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, BUT I CAN'T
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PROMISE THAT AND DELIVER THAT TODAY.IF THAT IS A CONCERN, YOU CAN ALWAYS TABLE THE MATTER AND WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND WE CAN COME BACK AND TRY TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
THAT WAS GONNA BE MY SUGGESTION.
IF WE COULD JUST PASS THIS, NOT TABLE IT, BUT PASS IT TO ANOTHER READING THAT WOULD ALSO WORK.
THAT IF THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL WANTS TO DO, WE CAN MOVE THIS, MOVE THIS ON.
I REMEMBER GOING TO, I THINK IT WAS LONGFORD ROAD, THE ENTRANCE TOO TO BAKER YES.
UH, I'M STILL TALKING, BUT I'M GONNA WAIT UNTIL THEY'RE DONE.
ANITA, I, I REMEMBER DRIVING TO STUDEBAKER MM-HMM.
THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT? YES.
CAUSE THERE'S TWO ELEMENTARIES IN THE AREA.
WE'RE TALKING ON ALTER AND THERE'S THE HIGH SCHOOL WITH A LOT OF NEW DRIVERS OFTEN AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I MEAN, SO ANITA, I'M TRYING TO SUPPORT YOUR CONCERN BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME CONCERN WHEN THERE WERE WATER MAINS INSTALLED ON LONGFORD ROAD.
IS TAKING THIS TO ANOTHER READING A PROBLEM, IS THAT GONNA BE AN ISSUE? IS IT GOING TO DELAY THE WORK? IF WE TAKE IT TO ANOTHER READING, BRIAN, IT'S POSSIBLE.
I I MEAN, AT, AT THE MOMENT IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THE DELAY IS PIPE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'VE ORDERED THE PIPE, WE'RE WAITING FOR ALL OF THE PIPE TO ORDER.
SO THE FACT THAT YOU DELAY FOR ANOTHER MEETING, I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY I GOT NANCY, THEN I'LL COME BACK TO THAT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE A PROJECTED START DATE.
THE PROJECTED START DATE IS SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, LIKE YOU SAID, THIS ISN'T ADDRESSING THE WORDING IN THE CONTRACT, BUT THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING YOU TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT.
AFTER WE AUTHORIZE YOU TO ENTER A CONTRACT, YOU STILL HAVE TO FINALIZE THE CONTRACT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO IF YOU FINALIZE THE CONTRACT AND PUT WORDING IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT WE WOULD PREFER, OR THAT WE REQUEST THAT YOU ESTABLISH YOUR SCHEDULE TO ALLOW MINIMUM IMPACT AROUND THESE TWO STREETS, THAT'S JUST ABOUT THE BEST WE CAN EXPECT.
AND THEN THEY SET UP THEIR WORK SCHEDULE TO DO THAT.
BUT IF WE DEMAND IT, IT MAY, IT MAY CAUSE A WORK CHANGE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY.
IT, IT COULD CAUSE A SCHEDULE IMPACT AND TIME IS MONEY.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S, THEY, THEY COULD BE, THEY COULD JACK AND BORE THE MAIN IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION OR, OR MISSILE THE MAIN, IF YOU WILL.
SO THEY WOULD DIG A PIT OVER HERE, POINT A, AND THEN SEVERAL TENS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF YARDS AWAY, THEY'LL DIG A SECOND PIT AND THEY BASICALLY DRAG OR PUSH THE PIPE THROUGH.
THAT COULD HAPPEN DURING SCHOOL AND THAT WOULD NEVER IMPACT ANYONE THAT, THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UM, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE SCHEDULE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH RESPECT TO, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE WORK WITHOUT HAVING TO TALK TO THE, UM, THE CONTRACTOR.
SO AGAIN, YOU COULD PASS THE LEGISLATION THIS EVENING AND WE CAN COME BACK AND TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO CO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
YOU COULD TABLE THE LEGISLATION, OR EXCUSE ME, CONTINUE, UH, TABLE THE LEGISLATION AND WE CAN DO THE SAME THING EITHER WAY AS COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE, UH, DON THEN COME BACK TO RICHARD.
SO WHEN CAN YOU MEET WITH MR. BERGMAN AND THE TWO CONTRACTORS AND, UH, COME BACK WITH THE PAGES ALL COLORED IN AS TO WHAT, WHAT MIGHT POSSIBLY HAPPEN AND, UH, ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCILWOMAN KITCHEN HAS? SURE.
SO WE HAVE A REGULARLY SCHEDULED STAFF MEETING TOMORROW MORNING.
SO WE WOULD SHARE, I WOULD SHARE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE ENGINEER AT THAT MEETING, AND I WOULD ASK HIM TO TRY AND GET A COMMITMENT FROM THE CONTRACTORS TO, UH, BE RESPONSIVE TO COUNCIL'S CONCERNS.
AND WE WOULD HAVE THOSE BY THE TIME COUNCIL WOULD CONVENE AGAIN, UH, AT ITS NEXT BUSINESS MEETING ON JULY 24TH.
HAVING COME FROM THAT BACKGROUND, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CONTRACTORS THEMSELVES WOULD PROBABLY APPRECIATE A HEADS UP ABOUT THE SCHOOL ISSUES BECAUSE IT ISN'T A LOT OF FUN FOR THEM TO TRY AND
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WORK AROUND THAT STUFF EITHER.SO I THINK IF YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND RUSS CAN GET US SOME COMMITMENT AND LIKE I SAY, COME BACK WITH MORE DETAILS.
UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT, UH, THERE'S A NECESSITY TO HOLD THIS UP.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THE CONTRACTORS AWARE OF WHAT, UH, ANITA HAS SAID, AND THAT IS SCHOOLS COULD BE A REAL PROBLEM THERE.
UM, MY COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED TO COUNCILWOMAN KITCHEN.
I WOULD, UM, I WOULD CAUTION YOU ON ANY SUGGESTION OF DELAYING THIS LEGISLATION IN FEAR OF, UH, FUTURE POLITICAL REPERCUSSIONS OF DELAYING A A WATER MAIN, UH, SYSTEM.
UM, I HAVE, I HAVE HEARD YOUR COMMENTS.
I'M JUST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I'VE HEARD, UH, THIS COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF ON A MULTITUDE OF TIMES REGARDING YOUR REQUEST FOR SCHOOLS, UM, WHY WE'RE AT THE 11TH HOUR AND STILL HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, UH, PREVIOUS TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER WEBB'S COMMENTS IS BEYOND ME.
UM, BUT I WOULD CAUTION YOU ON, ON ANY TYPE OF DELAY, JUST IN FEAR OF THAT.
UM, I WOULD PASS IT AND, UH, UH, HOPE, WHICH IS ALL WE CAN DO.
UH, THAT'S THE ONLY CALLBACK WE HAVE THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS DO OCCUR AND THAT, AND THAT SCHOOL IS NOT INTERRUPTED, UM, AS COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL HAS EXPERIENCED PREVIOUSLY.
MAYOR, ANYTHING ELSE? ANITA? I, I AGREE WITH YOU RICHARD.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I SAID THIS PRIOR TO THIS COMING INTO PLACE.
I WANTED IT IN THE CONTRACT NOT TO BE DOING THOSE STREETS.
IT'S STILL NOT IN THE CONTRACT.
I AM TOTALLY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS FROM HERE OUT.
WE REALLY NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE INITIAL CONTRACT FOR THESE WATER MAINS PLACE REPLACEMENTS.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE, WHAT ROADS THERE ARE TO ACCESS 'EM FROM HERE OUT.
THIS NEEDS TO BE IN THE CONTRACT UPFRONT.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS THAT WAY, BUT I DON'T WANT ANOTHER LONGFORD.
I REMEMBER TRAVELING LONGFORD THAT WAS AN ISSUE.
I, HERE WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS NOW THAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE PROBLEM.
I THINK FROM HERE OUT, THAT HAS TO CLEARLY BE STATED IN THESE CONTRACTS WITH THESE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE DONE DURING THE SUMMER WHEN THE SCHOOL'S OUT.
AND THAT GOES IN THE BIDDING PROCESS.
MARK THIS QUESTION'S FOR THE ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER.
CAN WE AMEND THE CONTRACT HERE TONIGHT AND INCLUDE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THIS AREA THAT ANITA IS TALKING ABOUT? SO IN OTHER WORDS, CAN THE CON, SO IN OTHER WORDS, CAN THE CONTRACT READ THE WAY WE WERE HOPING IT WOULD PRIOR TO TONIGHT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS NOT A FINALIZED AGREEMENT AND THAT THIS LITIGATION, OR I'M SORRY, LEGISLATION, WRONG, WRONG WORD, WRONG GALL WORD, UM, IS SIMPLY TO FINALIZE OR, UM, PROVIDE AUTHORIZATION TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE THE FINAL TERMS OF THAT CONTRACT.
SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY, UM, THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE THOSE PROPOSALS, MAKE THOSE REQUESTS, BUT IF THE OTHER PARTY TO THE CONTRACT DOES NOT ACCEPT THAT LANGUAGE, YOU VERY WELL MAY HAVE A STANDSTILL IN GETTING A FINAL CONTRACT DONE AND APPROVED TO START ON THAT SEPTEMBER 1ST DATE.
BRIAN, IS IT NOT IN THE CONTRACT BECAUSE WE'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THEY WOULDN'T AGREE TO IT? UH, NO.
I, I, AND I CAN'T, UH, I CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S IN THE CONTRACT.
I CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT.
I CAN SAY THAT STAFF IS AWARE AND VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT COUNSEL IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT INTERRUPTING AND DISTURBING, UM, THE SCHOOL'S FUNCTIONS DURING THE DAY, UH, DURING THEIR OPERATIONAL HOURS.
THOSE ISSUES ARE TYPICALLY WORKED OUT THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION, THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING AND THE PLANNING AND THE FACING OF THOSE CONTRACTS.
IT'S TYPICALLY HOW THEY'RE DONE.
SO IT'S NOT THAT STAFF HAS NOT HEARD WHAT COUNSEL HAS ASKED, IT'S THAT THERE IS A, I WILL CALL IT A MORE CONVENTIONAL METHOD WITH HOW CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULES ARE SET WHEN WE PUT THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER AT THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING.
IF IT'S THE WILL OF COUNSEL THAT THIS IS A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE WITHIN THE CONTRACT, WE WILL PUT IT WITHIN THE CONTRACT.
SO TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONTRACT, MEANS THAT STAFF IS NOT HEARD COUNSEL'S REQUEST.
WE HAVE HEARD THAT AND WE ARE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT REQUEST BASED ON HOW THE CONVENTIONAL PROCESS FOR MANAGING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOES.
BUT IF COUNSEL IS THAT ADAMANT THAT THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT THEY WOULD WANT, STAFF IS NOT OBJECTING TO
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PLACING THE LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT.NANCY, IF WE, BRIAN, IF WE PASS THIS LEGISLATION TONIGHT AND YOU SPEAK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT MM-HMM.
THE CONTRACTOR MAY DEMAND MORE MONEY, WHICH ABSOLUTELY WE WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF OUR BOUNDS TO AWARD IF THEY DEMANDED MORE MONEY.
SO WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNSEL IF THAT WERE THE ISSUE.
SO I, I FEEL LIKE THE RISK IS LOW IN AUTHORIZING THIS, THIS, UH, ACTION.
AND THE RESPONSIBILITY IS, IS OUR CITY MANAGERS TO COME BACK BEFORE THE CONTRACT IS EVER SIGNED AND LET US KNOW, UM, EXACTLY.
YOU KNOW, WHAT THE TERMS ARE AND IF THERE'S ANY IMPACT.
WHAT WAS YOUR CONCERN, ANITA? AND IS IT A CONCERN? I MEAN, IT'S A CONCERN THAT THIS WORK'S BEING DONE DURING SCHOOL, BUT AM I WILLING TO DELAY WORK? NO, THESE WATER MAINS NEED REPLACED.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, IF I THOUGHT I MADE IT CLEAR PRIOR TO THE CONTRACT EVEN GOING IN PLACE THAT I WANTED THIS LANGUAGE IN, IT DID NOT GET PUT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE CONTRACT BE TO SEPTEMBER 1ST TO JULY 1ST AND SAYING THAT THESE ROADS NEED TO BE DONE DURING THIS TIME PERIOD OF MEMORIAL DAY TO JULY 1ST.
UM, I JUST THINK THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN WRITE THIS IN, IN THE FUTURE CUZ WE KNOW WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE, WE KNOW WHERE THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS ARE.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S FOREIGN HERE THAT FROM HERE OUT, WE REALLY NEED TO PUT THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE INTO THESE BIDS THAT THIS ISN'T HAPPENING BECAUSE IT'S A HEADACHE AND IT'S A PROBLEM.
AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN A CITIZEN SAID, HEY, I KNOW YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR ALTER CHESS HAS THE BACK ENTRANCE THAT THE STUDENTS REALLY USE TO PARK.
AND IT'S A BUNCH OF OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, ROTATING NEW DRIVERS, TRYING TO MANEUVER AROUND STUFF.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A HEADACHE.
AND I'M LIKE, WHOA, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF CHESS IN THE BACK ENTRANCE.
AND YES, THIS IS, THIS IS AN ISSUE.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO, WE KNOW WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE, WE KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS.
I MEAN, WE, ANYBODY WHO'S DRIVEN ON HUBBARD OR ANY OF THESE STREETS HAVING WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS, IT'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT, A LOT OF DIRT, A LOT OF GETTING AROUND.
I'M GLAD IT'S BEING DONE, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT WHY MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE SCHOOLS AND BUS AND NEW DRIVERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE HAVE TO MANEUVER WHEN WE CAN CONTROL THAT.
WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT INVOLVES THE SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOL AREAS? THERE'S SIX STREETS AND TWO OF THEM HAVE TWO INVOLVES THE SCHOOLS.
SO MEMORIAL DAY TILL AUGUST, THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IMPACT ON THOSE ROADS LIKE YOU DO DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND WE'LL PUT THAT IN AND WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IS, WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
BRIAN, WHEN DO YOU THINK OR HAVE, IS THERE A PROPOSED PROJECT SCHEDULE? I MEAN THAT'S 33% OF THE PROJECT, SO WHAT, SEPTEMBER TO MEMORIAL DAY, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
I MEAN THAT, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE A FEW MONTHS.
THEY'LL ONLY HAVE TO GET 66% OF THE PROJECT DONE.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE COUNCIL PRIORITIES SOMETIMES CAN CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER.
SO AS PIPE COMES IN, IF ENOUGH PIPE COMES IN TO DO A PARTICULAR STREET OR TWO PARTICULAR STREETS, COUNCIL WANTS THIS WORK DONE RIGHT AWAY.
SO WE SEND THE CONTRACTOR TO START WORKING ON THOSE STREETS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ADEQUATE SUPPLIES AVAILABLE TO BEGIN WORKING ON THOSE STREETS WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON OTHER SUPPLIES THAT COME IN.
SO AGAIN, STAFF IS NOT, IF ANY OF MY COMMENTS ARE THAT WE ARE UNWILLING TO DO THIS AND THEY COME ACROSS THAT WAY, I'VE HEARD RUSS, EVERY TIME ANITA'S ASKED, I'VE HEARD RUSS SAY, WE WILL TALK AND TRY TO WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FOLLOW THAT SCHEDULE.
I'VE NEVER HEARD RUSS BE DISAGREEABLE TO THAT ONE TIME THAT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BY MS. KITCHEN.
SO, SO I'VE ALWAYS HEARD RIGHT STAFF SAY WE WILL TRY TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR, BUT I THINK WE'RE TYING RUSS'S HANDS BY TRYING TO THEN DEMAND
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A SPECIFIC TIME THAT GETS DONE BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S A PROPOSED PROJECT SCHEDULE OUT TO KNOW WHEN THOSE STREETS MIGHT GET DONE.THAT SCHEDULE WOULDN'T BE DRAFTED UNTIL WE WERE CLOSER TO THE ACTUAL START DATE WHEN WE KNEW THE AVAILABILITY OF SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO I'M HAPPY TO MAKE, I'M HAPPY TO ENSURE THAT THE LANGUAGE GETS PUT INTO THE CONTRACT THAT'S BEING REQUESTED, BUT AS THE LAW DIRECTOR POINTED OUT, IT, IT, IT'S A TWO PARTY CONTRACT.
SO THERE MAY BE OTHER TRADE OFFS THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO ACCEPT WITH REGARD TO THAT SPECIAL, WITH THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OR THAT SPECIFIC LIMITATION BEING PUT INTO THE CONTRACT.
I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO ADDING IT.
SO IF THAT'S THE WILL OF COUNSEL, WE'LL ADD IT, BE AWARE THERE MAY BE A CONSEQUENCE, THERE MAY BE NOT, BUT THERE MAY BE A RAMIFICATION TO THAT LANGUAGE.
SO I THINK WHAT I WOULD ASK COUNSEL TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND PRIORITIZE, IS THE PRIORITY GETTING WATER MAIN REPLACED OR IS THE PRIORITY OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ADD STIPULATION A, B, AND C TO GETTING WATER MEANS REPLACED? AND I THINK COUNSEL NEEDS TO PRIORIT PRIORITIZE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT, WE HAVE THE CONTRACT, IT'S READY TO BE AWARDED.
THE STAFF CAN MAKE THE, THE REQUEST TO TRY TO GET ALL THAT DONE.
BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S UP HERE WHERE IF, IF IT DID COME BACK THAT THE CONSEQUENCE OF THIS IS AN EXTRA $200,000 IN THE CONTRACT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE DONE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE TWO STREETS TWO MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE A TWO MONTH LAW BECAUSE OF SCHOOL AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK LATER IF ANYBODY UP HERE HEARS THAT TYPE OF DIFFERENCE OR THAT KIND OF A PROBLEM.
I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY UP HERE SAYING, OKAY, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
GO WORK SOMEPLACE ELSE FOR THE NEXT 60 DAYS AND COME BACK WHEN YOU GOT TIME.
NOBODY UP HERE IS GONNA GONNA ACCEPT THAT.
SO COUNCIL NEEDS TO PRIORITIZE WHAT'S IMPORTANT, THE WATER MAINS AND GETTING IT DONE, OR THE POSSIBILITY OF HOLDING IT UP DUE TO DUE TO THE SCHOOL LOCATIONS.
UM, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
MY, UH, MY 2 CENTS FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PASS AND I WOULD HOPE THAT, UM, STAFF HAS, HAS, HAS HEARD AND WILL HAVE JUST EVERY CONVERSATION POSSIBLE WITH THE, UM, THE, UH, CONTRACTORS TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING POSSIBLE IS DONE TO ENSURE THAT THIS ISSUE DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE OR IT'S AS SMALL AN ISSUE AS POSSIBLE.
AND FOR, I MEAN, THERE'S NO BUSING INTO HIGH SCHOOL, SO THE AMOUNT OF BUSES THERE, THERE WOULD BE NO BUSES ON CHM.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT THE ELEMENTARY THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
BUT THE BUSES, YOU KNOW, CHM IS REALLY GONNA BE THE ISSUE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES UP CHM OFF OF UL, TROY PIKE, THEN TRYING TO GET INTO, INTO THE BACK OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THEN, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER, I'M, I'M NOT EVEN GONNA SAY WHAT OTHER ISSUES ON FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAMES.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S NOT AFTER MEMORIAL DAY.
THAT'S GONNA BE ALL DURING THE FALL.
SO YOU KNOW, IT CUT THIS ARM OFF OR THIS ARM OFF, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
BUT THE ISSUE IS WE GOTTA GET THE WATER BEING REPLACED.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANITA.
MORE QUESTIONS? JUST ONE LAST COMMENT.
I MEAN, LOOKING HERE, WE HAVE THREE OF THOSE STREETS THAT ARE SMALLER STREETS THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO FIRST BECAUSE AS PIPE COMES IN, YOU COULD DO THOSE SMALLER STREETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEN ONES CLOSE TO THE SAME AMOUNT AS ALTER AND THEN THE OTHER ONE ON HAM'S THE LARGEST AMOUNT.
SO, I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING THAT IF WE DID THE SMALLER STREETS FIRST, CUZ YOU'RE SAYING THIS PIPE COMES IN, THAT MIGHT HELP PUSH EVERYTHING BACK.
I, I, I MEAN I'D ALSO NOTE THAT THE SCHEDULE HAS US DONE BEFORE SCHOOL'S OUT BASED ON, ON, ON THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IS PROJECTED FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO WE COULD DO IT IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIMEFRAME AND JUST START LATER.
THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE.
BUT THAT WOULD BE WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE? WHAT, WHEN IS THE TIMEFRAME THE CURRENT SCHEDULE IS SET? UM, ESTIMATED PIPE DELIVERY IS SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UM, I WAS READING THE SCHEDULE INCORRECTLY.
UM, IT IS 23 SEPTEMBER OF 23 TO MAY OF 24.
MY APOLOGIES FOR PIPE DELIVERY.
SO YES, SO SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 23 IS DELIVERY, PIPE DELIVERY AND, UH, THE BEGINNING OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN CONSTRUCTION IS ESTIMATED TO BE COMPLETE ON MAY ON OR ABOUT MAY 1ST, 2024.
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BREAK, IF YOU WILL, OTHER THAN SMALL BREAKS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE HOLIDAYS OR WHATNOT FOR THE WORK AROUND THOSE FACILITIES TO BE DONE.UNLESS, IF YOU WANTED TO UTILIZE THE SUMMER, YOU'D HAVE TO PUSH THE CONSTRUCTION DATE BACK EFFECTIVELY TO JANUARY ONE SO THAT YOU COULD, OR YOU COULD PAY TO REMOBILIZE THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION.
BRIAN, DID THIS CONTRACTOR BID ON THE PROJECT? YES.
AND WERE THERE ANY TIMEFRAMES GIVEN IN THE, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL? UH, I I'M SURE THERE WAS.
I'M SURE THERE WAS WHAT THOSE WERE, SIR? I CAN'T SAY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
BUT WE, WE TALKED PUBLICLY ABOUT THE SCHOOL ISSUE.
WAS THERE ANY LANGUAGE IN THE PROPOSAL THAT CONTRACTORS BID ON THAT SPOKE TO THAT? UH, I, I'M, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
I, I'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE ENGINEER.
COULD THERE HAVE BEEN, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN, YES.
AND THIS AMBIGUITY ON WHAT IT MIGHT COST OR WHAT THE DELAY MIGHT BE, WHATEVER THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BORNE OUT THROUGH THE BIDS RIGHT.
PROVIDED THESE DISCUSSIONS WERE HAD, YES.
IF THIS WAS IN THE REQUEST CORRECT.
SO MOVING FORWARD, CAN WE INCLUDE THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE BREAKDOWN IS THAT AGREE ANITA? YEAH, TOTALLY AGREE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE THE BREAKDOWN IS.
AND NOBODY'S WANTING TO DELAY ANYTHING, ARE WE? NO.
NO, BUT WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO IS AVOID A DISASTER CUZ IT CAN BE AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER.
YOU WEREN'T CHICKEN LITTLE, THE SKY WASN'T FALLING.
AND I ASKED PRIOR TO THIS WHOLE BIDDING THAT THIS BE PART OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND, AND IF THERE'S GONNA BE A PREMIUM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS, AND WE'RE GONNA DO THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT MOVING FORWARD IF WE COULD, BRIAN AND THE ENGINEERING STAFF JUST SPELL THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR.
I, I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT YOU, I DIDN'T HAVE SPECIFIC ANSWERS FOR TONIGHT.
SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH SPECIFICITY ON MANY OF THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS, UM, THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT SO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, YOU CAN FEEL GOOD KNOWING THAT STAFF DID HEAR WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'VE SAID AND THAT WE ARE RESPONDING ACCORDINGLY.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING ELSE? YEP.
OKAY, SO WE APPROVE THIS, RIGHT? SURE.
AND THEN LET'S SAY THAT THIS DELAY THAT MAYOR YOU SUGGEST MIGHT BE 200,000.
I'M NOT EVEN SAY JUST A NUMBER, A HUNDRED THOUSAND, JUST SOME ADDITIONAL COST, RIGHT? WILL THE OTHER CONTRACTORS BID ON THAT AS WELL? I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.
WELL, THEY CAN'T BECAUSE YOU ALREADY WE'RE GONNA AWARD IT TO THE CONTRACTOR TONIGHT.
NOW WE'RE GONNA ASK HIM TO AMEND THAT, CORRECT? WELL, THE LEGISLATION IS TO AUTHORIZE ME TO AWARD THE CONTRACT, BUT THE CONTRACT ALSO COMES WITH LIMITATIONS ON PRICING.
SO IF THERE WAS ANY STIPULATION, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US CORRECT.
MY POINT IS WE'RE GONNA KEEP EVERYONE REALLY HONEST, LIKE THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS AND BID ON THAT CHANGE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CORRECT.
RIGHT? YOU FOLLOW ME, MAYOR? MM-HMM.
SO YOU MIGHT BE PAYING A PREMIUM AND THE PREMIUM MIGHT BE LESS THAN WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE IF THERE WAS A BIDDING PROCESS INVOLVED.
AND I'M DEFINITELY NOT FOR DELAYING ANYTHING, BUT THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL DISASTER AROUND 30% OF THIS PROJECT.
SO HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH ALL THE DATA INFORMATION, IT'S ALL GOOD.
MY ONLY COMMENT IS I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A NAYSAYER FOR THE PROJECT.
THAT SCHOOL, THE HIGH SCHOOL IS BUSY EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THEY HAVE SUMMER SCHOOL.
SO TO THINK THAT WE'RE SAVING THE SCHOOL TO DO DURING THE SUMMER, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SAY LIKE AT SOME POINT THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME CONGESTION AND SOME GROWING PAINS.
AND I JUST WANT THAT PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUMMER SCHOOL, THEY HAVE BASEBALL GAMES LATE INTO JUNE.
THERE'S BANDED EVERY DAY THAT FOOTBALL PLAYERS ARE THERE LIFTING THAT SCHOOL IS UTILIZED EVERY SINGLE DAY AND SOME CAPACITY.
YES, BUT OKAY, MAYOR, THANK YOU.
YEAH, IT'S JUST DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, IT'S UTILIZED A LOT MORE.
I MEAN, YES, IT IS UTILIZED IN THE SUMMER.
I DO AGREE WITH THAT, BUT IT'S NOT UTILIZED TO THE POINT.
IT IS DURING MIDDLE OF AUGUST CAREER THROUGH AND AS YOU SAID, HOPE TO GOODNESS IT'S NOT DURING FOOTBALL SEASON.
I MEAN, HOPEFULLY
UM, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE CONSIDERATE TO THE SCHOOLS HERE OUT AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS IN FUTURE CONTRACTS, THAT THESE ROADS THAT HAVE
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SCHOOLS ON 'EM, ENTRANCES AND EXITS.WE DON'T DO THE WORK DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
IT HAS TO BE SUMMER WORK, BUT I DON'T WANNA DELAY.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 J.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For The Old Troy Pike Northbound Roadway Widening Project. (first reading)]
ITEM 11 J A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE OLD TROY PIKE NORTHBOUND ROADWAY WIDENING PROJECT AT THE FIRST TREE.BRIAN? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, WILL AUTHORIZE THE COMPLETION OF THE, UM, EAST MOST EASTERN NORTHBOUND LANE FROM TAYLORSVILLE TO I 70.
UH, AS NOTED EARLIER IN THE MANAGER'S REPORT, THIS CONTRACT TIMEFRAME HAS BEEN LOWERED FROM 570 DAYS FOR COMPLETION OF 370 DAYS.
WE WOULD ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING AND WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SIR.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, AFTER HEARING THE, THE LAST, UH, MEETING AND, UH, TODAY'S MEETING, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION AS SECTION ONE OF THE, UH, CURRENT RESOLUTION STATES, UH, THAT A COST NOT TO EXCEED, UH, 2.1 MILLION AS SET FORTH.
UH, AND THE TIMELINE IS, UH, SET FORTH WITH THE BID, UM, CALCULATIONS.
UH, THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT HOLDS THIS CONTRACTOR OR THE CITY TO THE VERBAL STATEMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER PROVIDED, UH, THE 370 DAYS, SAVING SIX MONTHS, UH, FROM THE ORIGINAL, UH, TIME PERIOD OF JANUARY OF 2025.
UM, IF, UH, IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, UNANIMOUS SUPPORT ON THIS, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS ITEM AMENDED.
AND SECTION ONE ADVISED THAT 370 DAYS ON OR BEFORE, UH, JULY 30TH, 2024.
I'LL SECOND THAT AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND SECOND TO ADOPT BEFORE WE AMEN.
FIRST AND SECOND HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
RICHARD STATE THE DATES AGAIN FOR CLARITY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I BELIEVE THE DATE SUPPLIED BY THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER WAS 370 DAYS, WHICH IF MY CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT AND SOMEBODY PLEASE CHECK ME, WHICH IS ON OR BEFORE JULY 30TH, 2024.
IS THAT THE SECOND FOR, THAT'S THE SECOND TO THAT MOTION TO AMEND.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UH, THE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE 370 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE CONTRACT'S EXECUTION IS THE ONLY CLARIFICATION THAT I WOULD ASK.
UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT, WHAT'S THE DATE EXPECTED OF THE EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT, UM, SHORTLY AFTER BROWN? YEAH, I, IT, IT, IT'LL PROBABLY BE WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.
RICHARD, WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE TO EITHER AUGUST 15TH OR AUGUST 30TH? I'LL GO TO AUGUST 30TH BECAUSE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS COUNCIL'S ALREADY SAVING THIS, UH, COMMUNITY SEVEN MONTHS OF PROJECT BY HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
MARK, ARE YOU AGREEABLE TO AUGUST 30TH INSTEAD OF JULY 24TH IN THE, IN THE, UH, AMENDMENT? ONE QUESTION.
YES, BRIAN, CAN WE SHORTEN THE 30 DAYS? YEAH, I, I WILL, I MEAN, WE'LL, I MEAN, WE'LL GO AS FAST AS WE CAN, UM, TO GET THAT DONE.
SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN AND SO IS THE SECOND THERE IS A NEW MOTION AND SECOND FOR COMPLETION TO BE PRIOR TO AUGUST 30TH, 2024.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, TONY? I'M SORRY.
THIS IS FOR THE AMENDMENT CORRECT? THIS IS FOR THE AMENDMENT.
THEN WE'LL HAVE TO, YES, SORRY.
AND THE AMENDMENT PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
AND A MOTION TO ADOPT ALSO CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
NEXT WE HAVE SAY OFFICIAL REPORTS
[12. City Official Reports And Comments]
AND COMMENTS.I WILL SAY THERE IS A NEED FOR A SHORT EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING BEFORE WE LEAVE.
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UM, SO WE'LL MOVE TO OUR REPORTS AND COMMENTS.GLENN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW FIREFIGHTERS.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE THOSE, UH, ALL THOSE NEW FACES AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THOSE WHO WERE ELEVATED.
ANYONE ELSE? RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A, UM, A SUGGESTION FOR AN AGENDA ITEM AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS THE REPUBLIC SERVICES CONTRACT.
UM, I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION, UH, TI UH, MULTITUDE OF TIMES WITH THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, UM, AND HAVE RECENTLY LEARNED, UM, AS OF JUNE 29TH THAT REPUBLIC SERVICES HAS A CONTRACT, UH, TIME WITHIN THEIR DATABASE FOR HUBER HEIGHTS OF 5:00 AM TO 5:00 PM IT WAS ALSO NOTED DURING THAT TIME THAT TANYA, THE REGIONAL SUPERVISOR, HAS BEEN RELOCATED AND NOW ALL DIRECTION FOR REPUBLIC SERVICES FOR THE HUBER HEIGHTS DIVISION COMES OUT OF INDIANAPOLIS.
UM, ALSO A UNSOLICITED EMPLOYEE WITH REPUBLIC HAS ADVISED ME THERE ARE MAJOR STAFFING ISSUES WITHIN THE DAYTON MARKET AND THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN UNTIL MANAGEMENT HIRES STAFF.
THESE ARE VERY SERIOUS ITEMS, MAYOR THAT I KNOW MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER WEBB AND OTHERS HAVE BROUGHT UP AS THE CURRENT CONTRACT STATES, THEY CANNOT START BEFORE 7:00 AM.
UM, AND UH, THAT IS NOT ONLY IN OUR ORDINANCES, BUT IN THE CONTRACT FROM REPUBLIC.
UM, I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER HAS HAD SOME TROUBLE CONTACTING REPUBLIC SERVICES AND GETTING THEM TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE CHANGED.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE HAD RESIDENTS THAT HAD MISSED PICKUPS OVER THE HOLIDAY WEEK WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON A DELAY, AND THEN THEY END UP RUNNING THE SAME DAY.
UM, SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A TOUCH POINT WITH REPUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, UH, THEY'RE UPHOLDING THEIR END OF THE CONTRACT AND, UH, WORK OUT SOME OF THESE DIFFERENCES.
UM, ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY MANAGER WOULD ARRANGE? I MEAN, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WE ON COUNCIL CAN ACCOMPLISH.
UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COUNCILMAN BURGE.
UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE CITY MANAGER, UH, WITH, I LAST SPOKE WITH HIM, HE SAID HE HAD A MEETING SET UP WITH AN INDIVIDUAL WITH REPUBLIC.
UH, THAT MEETING WAS, DID NOT TAKE PLACE, AND THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME HAD NO IDEA WHY THAT MEETING HAD NOT TAKEN PLACE, IN MY OPINION, UH, THAT STATES THAT REPUBLIC SERVICES IS NOT, UH, ADAPTABLE TO THE CITY MANAGERS.
UM, EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS, AND THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT FORTH BEFORE COUNCIL BECAUSE THOSE COMMENTS CAME FROM OUR RESIDENCE AND CAME FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, I DON'T MEAN TO STEP ON THE CITY MANAGER'S TOES AND I, AND I THINK I JUST STOMPED ALL OVER THEM.
UH, HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY, UH, SERIOUS ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO GET CORRECTED, UM, WITH, UH, WITH TRASH TRUCKS RUNNING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AT 6, 6 30 IN THE MORNING, UM, WHEN THAT IS CLEARLY BEYOND THE SCHEDULE, MISSED PICKUPS, A WHOLE MO MULTITUDE OF STUFF.
THOUGH I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH MY PERSONAL SERVICE, I WOULD JOIN MR. SHAW AS A SECOND FOR THIS TOPIC TO BE DISCUSSED.
YEAH, WE'LL, IT'LL, IT'LL BE ON THE PETITION.
ANY, AND I THINK HE'S BEING KIND BECAUSE I THINK I SHOT BRIAN A PICTURE OF MY BEING PICKED UP BETWEEN FIVE 30 AND 5 45 THIS PAST WEEK.
THE OPERATIONS, YES, THE OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR.
WHEN THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UH, WE DID REACH OUT TO REPUBLIC.
THEY DID GIVE US CONTACT INFORMATION AND NAMES.
WE DID REACH OUT TO THE OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR.
WE DID GET A CONFERENCE CALL SCHEDULED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AFTER THE SCHEDULING, BUT PRIOR TO THE CONFERENCE CALL, THE OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR LEFT THE COMPANY.
I DIDN'T GET AN UPDATED OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR CONTACT UNTIL THURSDAY OR FRIDAY LAST WEEK, I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH THE NEW OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR TO TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND CONCERNS.
SO WE AS STAFF ARE CONTINUING TO ADVANCE THE WILL OF COUNSEL TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND TRY TO GET, UH, REPUBLIC, UH, TO WORK UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THEIR CONTRACT.
SO IS THIS THE DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE NEXT TIME, OR WE WANNA WAIT FOR BRIAN TO GET INFORMATION, HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM, THEN BRING BACK, I MEAN, WE'VE AGREED TO PUT ON THE WORK SESSION, BUT NOW WE'RE ALREADY DISCUSSING IT, LIKE THIS IS A WORK SESSION, SO LET'S GIVE BRIAN A CHANCE TO, TO DO WHAT HE CAN.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THIS.
SO YOU'LL LET US KNOW THE CONTRACT LENGTH.
SO, WILL YOU LET US KNOW THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK, THE LENGTH OF CONTRACT, HOW MUCH LONGER WE HAVE TO GO? AND I KNOW OTHER CITIES ALSO PUT THEIR TRASH AND WATER TOGETHER.
WOULD THAT GAIN US ANY, BE BENEFICIARY WANTS IT BREAK TO BREAK THIS CONTRACT? SURE.
AND MAYOR, IF I MAY, YES, JUST PROPOSE THIS, UM, AS THE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COMPELLED THIS TO PUT THIS ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE A RESOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE, UH, THAT MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER WEBB, UH, MS. KITCHEN AND, AND OTHERS HAVE HAD.
SO WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION FOR THE WORK SESSION INFORMATION? MORE DISCUSSION.
ARE WE GONNA WAIT FOR BRIAN OR HAVE BRIAN BRING INFORMATION BACK? IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, MAYOR, IF I GET AN, IF WE GET AN ENOUGH UPDATE,
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UH, THAT'S SATISFACTORY BETWEEN THEN AND NOW, UH, BETWEEN THEN AND THE WORK SESSION, I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM OF HAVING THAT REMOVED.UH, BUT UNTIL THERE IS AN UPDATE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
JUST THAT THERE ARE, UM, UH, COUNCILMAN SHAW BROUGHT UP, UH, ONE ISSUE AND THAT IS, UH, THE, UH, PICKUP OUTSIDE OF, UH, REGULATION HOURS.
BUT THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS THAT I, I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING THE CONVERSATION.
SO I WILL, UH, AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CHA THAT, UH, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
WE'VE GOT SOME, WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES GOING ON.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO AIR 'EM OUT HERE.
MAYOR MS. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WEBB.
UM, I, I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS JUST A, A GOOD LEVEL SETTING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN A CHECK-IN AS WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY WITH MANY OF OUR VENDORS.
WE'LL SEE YOU IN THE WORK SESSION.
[13. Executive Session]
YEAH, IT'D BE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THE EMPLOYMENT AND APPOINTMENT OF APPLICANTS FOR THE HUB RIGHTS CITY MANAGER POSITION.IS THERE A MOTION DONE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE EMPLOYMENT AND APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER POSITION OR WHATEVER TONY SAID.
MOTION TO ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
UH, WHEN WE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, AS ALWAYS, WE'LL COME OUT, LET EVERYONE KNOW IF ANY FORMAL ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN.
WE'VE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO FORMAL ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN, AND AT 8 28 THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.