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[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY HUB RIVER HEIGHT CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.IT IS FEBRUARY 7TH, 2023, GETTING STARTED AT 6 0 1 THIS EVENING.
AND NUMBER ONE IS, UH, THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
AND IF MR. ROGERS, IF YOU WOULD CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
[2. Approval Of Minutes]
NUMBER TWO.UH, THEY HAVE ONE SET OF MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 17TH, 2020 WORK SESSION.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, CORRECTIONS, CASING, NONE.
THOSE MENS WILL STAND AS APPROVED.
AND NEXT UP, IS IT, NUMBER THREE ARE TOPICS OF DISCUSSION.
THIS EVENING WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM
[ City Manager Report]
THREE EIGHT, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORT.BRIAN, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? I'M GOOD, SIR.
HOW ABOUT YOURSELF? VERY WELL, THANK YOU.
COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR, UH, COUNSEL AND THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT.
UH, FIRST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UH, THIS SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 11TH, UH, IS THE COMMUNITY ART EXHIBIT OVER AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
UH, THAT EVENT WILL BE HELD FROM TWO TO SEVEN, UH, AND, UH, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND SEE ALL OF THE LOCAL HUBER HEIGHTS ARTISTS.
UH, AND, UH, JUST TO NOTE THAT THIS ITEM IS BEING SPONSORED BY THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION.
UH, ALSO WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UH, COMING UP ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DIVISION WILL BE OVER AT, UH, SKYLINE, CHILE, UH, BETWEEN, UH, FIVE AND EIGHT.
SO COME ON OUT FOR, UH, CONEY DOGS WITH A COP.
UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH, UH, ALL OUR HH P D PERSONNEL, UH, AND, UH, ASK, UH, SOME DIRECT QUESTIONS AND GET SOME DIRECT ANSWERS ON, UH, THOSE MATTERS THAT MAY BE OF CONCERN.
UH, SPEAKING OF THE, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DEPARTMENT DID WANT TO TOUCH BASE REAL BRIEFLY, UH, WITH COUNSEL, UH, REGARDING OUR SPECIAL DETAIL.
UH, AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, ME IN TROY PIKE, WHICH, UH, RECENTLY ENDED, UH, THAT WAS A, IT WOUND UP BEING A 32, UH, DAY EVENT.
UH, WE HAD, UH, TWO OFFICERS ON SITE BETWEEN, UH, 10:00 AM AND 6:00 PM.
UH, AND DURING THE COURSE OF THAT EVENT, WE HAD CONTACT WITH OVER 1100 VEHICLES, UH, APPROXIMATELY, UH, 100 AND, UH, 11 CITATIONS, UH, WERE ACTUALLY ISSUED ALONG WITH A HOST OF OTHER WARRANT, UH, WARRANTS, EXCUSE ME, WITH, ALONG WITH A HOST OF OTHER WARNINGS.
UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UH, WE, UH, WE PUT FORTH OUR BEST EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE, UH, REMINDING, UH, CITIZENS AND, AND, UH, VISITORS TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO BE AS MINDFUL AND, UH, AWARE AS POSSIBLE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THAT INTERSECTION AND THAT AREA, UH, IN, UH, IN ADDITION, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO ADVANCE, UH, ON BEHALF OF, UH, TRAFFIC FLOW IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA.
UH, JUST TO NOTE THAT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ARE FORTHCOMING.
THERE IS LEGISLATION COMING UP ON, UH, THE MEETING OF THE 13TH, DISCUSSING LATER THIS EVENING, UH, WITH RESPECT TO WIDENING MERRI LEE LEEWAY, AS WELL AS, UH, PROVIDING THE ADDITIONAL LANE ON, UH, NORTHBOUND OLD TROY PIKE.
UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, IS COMMISSIONED AND UNDERWAY, UH, AND WE WILL BE PURSUING THAT MATTER IN, UH, DETAIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET ALL OF THE NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS, UH, REGARDING THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, SINCE THIS IS A STATE ROUTE, UH, AND MAY IMPACT THE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES AT THE BRIDGE.
UH, AND THEN LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, ALSO IN CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE LAW DIRECTOR, UH, AND, UH, SUPPORT COUNSEL WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO AT THAT LOCATION, UH, REGARDING, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO, UH, TRAFFIC LAW AND, UH, NUISANCE PER SE, PUBLIC NUISANCE MATTER.
SO, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO PURSUE THAT, BUT WE DID WANT TO GIVE COUNSEL AN UPDATE SINCE WE DID PROMISE YOU THAT, UH, THIS WOULD NOT JUST BE A 30 DAY EVENT, THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS, UM, IN ADVANCE, UH, VARIOUS, UH, FORMS OF, UH, REVIEW AND EVALUATION TO TRY AND ADDRESS THAT SITUATION.
SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO THAT, UH, AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING UPDATES AS WE MOVE DOWN THE LINE ON SEVERAL OF THESE ITEMS. SO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR COUNSEL, SIR, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL HAS FOR ME.
ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN REGARDING ISSUES HE JUST DISCUSSED? OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE B,
[ Culture And Diversity Citizen Action Commission Update]
CULTURE AND DIVERSITY AND ACTION COMMISSION UPDATE 10.UH, WE HAVE ERIC STEVENS FROM THE CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE COMMISSION'S BEHALF.
MY NAME IS ERIC STEVENS, AND, UH, I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR CHAIR WHO'S CURRENTLY OUT OF TOWN, UH, RHONDA SUMLIN, AS WELL AS, UH, OUR VICE CHAIR.
SHE'S ALSO OUT OF TOWN, SO YOU GET THE THIRD STRINGER.
NEEDS TO BE GREEN ON THE SIDE THERE.
YEAH, THAT'S THE BUTTON ON DRAWING.
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SO, SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST QUARTER, AS WELL AS TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, ACTIVITIES THAT WE WANT TO EXECUTE THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS, UH, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE, UH, COME UP WITH OVER THE LAST QUARTER.AND THIS, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE, UH, THE, THE MEMBERS THAT MAKE UP THE COMMISSION WITH RHONDA SUMMERLAND BEING THE CHAIR, UH, YOLANDA STEVENS BEING THE VICE CHAIR.
AND, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE OTHER MEMBERS, UH, THAT ARE ON THE, ON THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN THIS CHART HERE, YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSION MEMBER WHO STARTED, UH, THIS PAST JANUARY.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT, AGAIN, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST, UH, QUARTER, STARTING WITH THE BREAST CANCER AWARENESS EVENT THAT WE HAD BACK IN OCTOBER, WHERE WE PART, WHERE WE PARTNERED WITH THE PARKS AND RECS, UH, COMMISSION, OR WITH PARKS AND RECS BOARD.
AND, UH, THERE, WE BASICALLY HELD THAT EVENT WHERE AT THAT TIME WE COLLECTED ITEMS THAT, UM, THAT WOULD FILL APPROXIMATELY 20 BAGS, UH, TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE.
AS WELL AS WE'VE ALSO, WE WERE ALSO DONATED, UH, WHAT WAS DON DONATED WAS TWO COMPLETELY, UH, FULL, UH, CHEMO BAGS.
UH, AND SO, WE'LL, UH, I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN FEBRUARY, WE'LL, UH, MAKE THAT DONATION.
UH, WE ALSO RAISED, I THINK, A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, DURING THAT, UH, DURING THAT EVENT.
AND THAT WILL BE, UM, UH, PUT TOGETHER WITH AN ADDITIONAL 20 $50, I THINK WE REQUESTED TO HELP, UH, COMPLETE THOSE BAGS.
AND WE WILL, MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS A, UM, A REQUISITION OUT FOR THAT, OR A POTENTIAL REQUISITION OUT FOR THAT, TO FILL THOSE BAGS AND GET THAT, EXCUSE ME, AND GET THOSE, UH, GET THOSE ISSUED OUT, I THINK SOMETIME NEXT MONTH.
UM, ALSO BACK IN DECEMBER, I THINK, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO ACKNOWLEDGE I CANNOT SEE THOSE CHARTS.
I WISH THEY WERE BIGGER, BUT, UM, LET ME, LET ME BLOW THIS UP HERE.
SO, YEAH, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE MS. UH, MAR, UH, COLSON, UM, FOR HER SERVICE THAT SHE'S, UH, PROVIDED, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY, I GUESS, BACK IN 1975.
THERE, SHE WAS, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST, UH, MEMBERS, UH, TO SERVE ON, UH, THE ZONING AND, UH, CODE INFORMA, UM, ZONING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR, UH, BOARD, I GUESS.
AND, UH, SO WE, UH, AT THAT TIME, I KNOW THERE WAS A PROCLAMATION, UH, THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS GIVEN TO HER BY THE, BY THE MAYOR.
AND THEN ALSO OVER THE LAST, UM, LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, THE POLICE CHIEF AS WELL AS, UH, BRIAN, THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT TOGETHER THE C C R B.
I KNOW TO THIS POINT, WE'VE, WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT, UM, OUTLINE OF WHAT THAT CCC RRB PROCESS IS TO LOOK LIKE.
AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO, WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, HOPEFULLY FIRM THAT UP REACH AGREEMENT ON WHAT THAT, UM, WHAT THAT PROCESS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE IN DETAIL, UH, WITH THE HOPES OF GETTING THAT PROCESS STOOD UP, UH, SOMETIME, I GUESS IN EARLY SPRING IS WHAT WE'RE TARGETING.
AND SO, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, UM, IN THE 2023 TIMEFRAME FOR ANY OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING, UH, WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION, UM, EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES THAT FOCUSES ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND EQUITY.
AND SO, UM, AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ON NEXT CHART, UM, STARTING WITH, UH, WHAT WE HAD BACK IN JANUARY, WE HAD THIS MLK EVENT, WHICH IS OUR, I GUESS, OUR FOURTH ANNUAL EVENT.
AND WE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HELD IT OVER AT, AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO WE STARTED WITH THE, UH, THE WALK ON THE TRACK OUT THERE, AND WE HAD ABOUT 85.
THERE WAS ABOUT 85 INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME OUT AND PARTICIPATED IN THE WALK.
AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, UM, EVENT, WE, WE HAD THE, UH, THE PROGRAM INSIDE THE, THE SCHOOL THERE, AND HAD APPROXIMATELY 30, 30, 36 INDIVIDUALS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT PROGRAM, UH, HAD, UH, VOLUNTEERS FROM, FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
AND, UM, AND ALSO THREE OF THOSE STUDENTS, UH, DID GET SOME EXTRA CREDIT, UH, FOR THEIR, UH, INVOLVEMENT IN THE, IN THE EVENT.
AND SO THIS HERE, UH, KIND OF OUTLINES, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE TARGETING FOR THE 2023, UH, TIMEFRAME.
UM, THE BLACK HISTORY EVENT, WE WERE LOOKING TO,
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TO TRY AND PULL SOMETHING OFF, BUT WITH THE SHORT NOTICE, UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO, TO PULL TOGETHER AN EVENT FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH.BUT THEN, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, UH, WE HAD THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE CULTURAL, CULTURAL, UH, WEEK THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK, I MEAN, LAST YEAR.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR WITH, UM, UH, WITH, UH, WHICH YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE LISTED THERE THAT WE WANT TO, UM, THAT WE WANNA HOLD.
SO WE'RE IN THE, IN THE PLANNING PHASE, UH, FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES.
YOU ALSO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS, UM, LATER IN THE, LATER IN THE CALENDAR YEAR FOR SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, FOR THE OTHER GROUPS.
SO NOW I WILL, UH, I GUESS COVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE, THAT THE COMMISSION HAS, UM, HAS COME UP WITH, UH, STARTING WITH RECOMMENDATION ONE.
UM, ESSENTIALLY IT'S, WE WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE, UH, MEMBER FROM THE COUNCIL, UH, TO, UM, BASICALLY BE A PART OF OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS, AND THEY WILL BASICALLY SERVE AS A CONDUIT FOR THE COMMISSION.
AND SO THAT WAS, THAT'S OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION OR RECOMMENDATION.
SO RECOMMENDATION TWO IS ESSENTIALLY, UM, COMMISSION WILL HAVE SERIOUS DECISION MAKING POWER.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO, UM, TO GET THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN PLACE.
SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE, HAVE THE, THE COMMISSION ESSENTIALLY, UH, BE INVOLVED IN, IN, UM, THAT SELECTION PROCESS, UM, ONCE WE, ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND SO, RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION THREE IS, UH, CITY COMMITMENT TO HIRE ONE MANAGEMENT LEVEL, PART-TIME, OR FULL-TIME PERSON.
UM, A DIVERSE CANDIDATE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IN D I B SPECIFICALLY TASKED WITH COORDINATING, MANAGING, INITIATING, AND OVERSEEING CITYWIDE D I B INITIATIVES AND ASSISTING WITH CITY COMMISSION EFFORTS.
AND THEN RECOMMENDATION FOUR IS THE HUBER HEIGHTS CULTURE.
UNIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTS COMMISSION IS FORMALLY RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS ADVANCED INITIATIVE TO RECOGNIZE ALL FEDERAL HERITAGE MONTHS STARTING HERITAGE MONTH, STARTING IN 2024.
THE CULTURAL UNIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION WILL DEVELOP AN EDUCATIONAL POST FOR EACH OF THE FEDERAL HERITAGE MONTHS NOTED BELOW THAT THEY WILL, THAT WILL SERVE FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING CULTURAL AWARENESS AND EDUCATION TO EVERYONE.
THIS INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED ON THE C D C FACEBOOK PAGE.
AND THEN THE NEXT CHART WILL BASICALLY SHOW THOSE, UM, THOSE VARIOUS, UM, HERITAGE MONTH, UM, GROUPS, IF YOU WILL.
SO THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTS COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS ADVANCE AND INITIATIVE TO BRING THE CITY TO A MORE EQUITABLE PLACE FOR ALL RESIDENTS BY ENSURING THAT FORMS AND WEBSITES ARE AVAILABLE FOR TRANSLATION.
IT IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE SIT THAT THIS PROCESS IS ADVANCED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THERE IS NO EQUITY IN HAVING FORMS, THERE IS NO EQUITY IN HAVING FORMS ONLY AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH.
AND ESSENTIALLY, THIS CONCLUDES, UH, MY PRESENTATION.
UH, OBVIOUSLY JUST WE, UH, WE WANT TO SEE, UH, CONTINUED COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL IN SUPPORTING, UM, THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL, I GUESS, OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, AND, AND PLEASE HAVE THE OTHER TWO.
UH, SO THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION.
AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING PRESENTATION OR ANY OF THE, THIS EVENING FOR MR. STEVENS? DON? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
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CRV.CAN YOU TELL US EXACTLY, UM, WHERE THAT STANDS RIGHT NOW? UM, I KNOW WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS IT COME SPRINGTIME, BUT, UM, RIGHT.
SO IN LARGE PART, RIGHT, THE, THE FRAMEWORK, THE PROCESS HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER.
SO NOW IT'S, I THINK IT'S, AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET ALL THE PROCEDURES.
THERE'S SPECIFIC RESPONSIBILITIES FOR EACH ONE OF THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE BLOCK DIAGRAM OF THE PROCESS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S SPECIFIC, UM, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR EACH OF THOSE, UH, BLOCKS.
AND SO WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A FOLLOW ON MEETING WITH, WITH BRIAN AND THE POLICE CHIEF, JUST TO AGREE ON THE LANGUAGE, RIGHT? BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE, THE FRAMEWORK IS THERE IN TERMS OF HOW THE PROCESS, PROCESS WOULD BE EXECUTED, BUT IT'S JUST, AGAIN, JUST THE FINE DETAILS.
UH, JUST MAKING SURE WE, WE, WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE ON, AGAIN, WHAT THESE VARIOUS ENTITIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND WHERE THE HANDOFFS TAKE PLACE.
AND SO, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TO REVIEW THAT.
AND THEN ONCE THAT'S, I GUESS ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'RE IN LOCKSTEP, THEN WE WILL, UM, BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, TO OUR COMMISSION FOR THEM TO REVIEW AND CONCUR ON, ON THE, UH, ON THE PROCESS.
AND THEN WE'LL THEN WE'LL BRING IT TO THE CITY, TO THE COUNCIL AFTERWARDS FOR APPROVAL.
AND, UM, MAYOR, MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE TO, UM, BRIAN, UH, CHERKOWSKI BRIAN IN MIGHT UNDERSTAND THAT THE REVAMPING OF THE WEBSITE WILL INCLUDE, UH, THE INTERPRETATION THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IN RECOMMENDATION FIVE.
THERE ARE, UM, RIGHT NOW THERE IS A, UH, TRANSLATION, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO, UH, THE WEBSITE, UM, ON THE MAIN PAGE IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER THERE IS THE GOOGLE TRANSLATE FEATURE.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE WEBSITE CAN TRANSLATE INTO ANY OF THE LANGUAGES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE GOOGLE TRANSLATE FEATURE.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME FORMS THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THAT TRANSITION OR THROUGH THAT TRANSLATION FEATURE.
AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH THOSE AS WE MOVE, UH, TO TRANSITION OUR WEBSITE LATER IN THE YEAR TO THE NEW FORMAT.
SO WE'LL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE AS MUCH OF THE REQUESTS THAT, UH, THAT ARE PUT FORWARD THAT WE CAN, WITH THE RESOURCES WE CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE.
UH, THANK YOU ERIC, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, RICHARD.
UH, ERIC, I JUST WANTED TO STATE, UH, MY APPRECIATION ONCE AGAIN, UH, FOR YOUR, UH, WORK, UH, WITH THE FIRST YEAR SUBURBS GROUP IN THAT PRESENTATION.
BEEN A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK, UM, AND, UH, TO REALLY SEE HOW THE CRB, YOU KNOW, WAS, UH, KIND OF, UH, THOUGHT UPON THE, THE WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO THAT, WHERE THAT STOOD AT THAT TIME, AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS.
UM, I THINK THERE WAS EVEN A REQUEST TO HAVE YOU BACK TO, UH, ONCE THAT'S IMPLEMENTED TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER.
SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON, ON THAT.
UM, AND AS FAR AS, UM, A LOT OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, I, UM, I HAVE, UH, NO PERSONAL ISSUE WITH THOSE MOVING FORWARD.
UH, THE ONE I'M, I'M MOST INTERESTED IN IS THE, UH, THE COUNCIL LIAISON POSITION.
UH, I THINK YOUR, UH, FIRST RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS LISTED, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL USED TO DO WITH SEVERAL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
UH, AND IT IS MY HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT, UH, THAT, UH, BEING REENACTED.
CAUSE I I THINK THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, GOOD ENERGY, UM, AND GOOD INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED FROM OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.
SO, UM, I'M GLAD THAT, UH, UH, THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY, UH, CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION HAS HAD THAT, UH, CONVERSATION INTERNALLY AND, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH HERE TODAY.
SO, YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR YOUR WORK.
AND I KNOW THAT PRESENTATION HAS, UH, THAT YOU SUBMITTED, UH, WAS SENT OUT TO, UM, ALL OF THE SURROUNDING, UH, COMMUNITIES, UM, WITHIN THE FIRST TIER.
SO, UH, I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS GONNA BE SPREAD AROUND SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
THANK YOU, MAYOR ERIC, THANK YOU AND THE COMMISSION FOR DOING YOUR WORK.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME, UM, GIVE THE PROCLAMATION MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY AND ON ISSUE NUMBER FOUR.
UM, WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL 2024 TO START FACEBOOK POSTS.
CAN WE START THAT IN 2023, IS MY ASK TO CELEBRATE, LIKE, ADVERSITIES OF LIKE MUSLIMS DISABILITIES, GAY PRIDE.
I I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY SCRAPE TOGETHER FACEBOOK POST IN 2023.
YEAH, I, I HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THAT, SO, OKAY.
ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, AND I THINK SOME CLARITY TOO ON THE, WAS THAT YEAH.
FOR, UH, FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S REAL CLEAR IN THERE, BUT WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS FOR CITY COUNCIL RIGHT.
TO BE INVOLVED IN IDENTIFYING WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, RIGHT? TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE THOSE GROUPS, RIGHT? WE WANT
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YOU ALL TO KIND OF HAVE AN ACTIVE ROLE.CAUSE IT ISN'T NECESSARILY, I MEAN, WE PUT THE RECOMMENDATION OUT.
IT, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE, WE HAVE THE EVENTS OBVIOUSLY, THAT WE'VE LAID OUT, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT? BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY WHEN, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE VARIOUS MONTHS, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY FOR US TO, TO EXECUTE SOME SORT OF EVENT, RIGHT? OR PUT ON, OR HOST OR DEVELOP AN EVENT, RIGHT? IT'S REALLY SAYING, HEY, WE WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO BASICALLY BE INVOLVED IN IT, IN, IN ANY FORM OR ANY WAY THAT YOU SEE FIT, RIGHT? TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THOSE VARIOUS GROUPS.
MAYOR, CAN I, YES, I USUALLY DO.
SO I WAS LOOKING, I PUT UP THIS COMMISSION TO ALSO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE EFFORTS, RIGHT? SO I WAS LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO DO THE POST.
ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, DON, I'M SORRY, MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, PRESENTING THE, THE, UM, PRESENTATION AND THE READ AHEAD IN ADVANCE.
UM, I SAW YOU SQUINTING AT THE, UH, AT THE FINE PRINT, UH, AS I HAVE TO DO.
SO IT WAS GREAT TO BE ABLE TO READ IT WHERE I COULD BLOW IT UP ON MY SCREEN AND, AND READ ALL THE DETAILS.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU STRUGGLING WITH ME.
CAUSE AGAIN, THEY, THEY DROPPED THIS ON ME SAYING, HEY, WILL YOU GIVE THIS PRESENTATION? I HAVEN'T HAD, DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A CHANCE TO RELOCATE ANY YOU BET.
SO, BUT ANYWAY, UH, I'LL TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM.
[ Tri-Cities North Regional Wastewater Authority Presentation]
THREE C, THE TRI-CITIES NORTH REGIONAL WASTEWATER AUTHORITY PRESENTATION.UH, AS COUNCIL HAS HEARD ME DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, UH, IN VERY SHORT SNIPPETS, UH, THE, UH, THE TRI-CITIES, UH, WASTEWATER AUTHORITY IS LOOKING TO MAKE, UH, EXPANSIONS TO THEIR FACILITY.
AND, UH, SO THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY COULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THOSE MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND WHY THOSE ARE OCCURRING.
I'VE ASKED DNA AND I, THE GENERAL MANAGER FROM, UH, THE TRI-CITIES AUTHORITY HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO BRIEF COUNSEL ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.
SO, WITH THAT, SIR, I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO, UH, MR. KNIVES.
RUSS, WE NEED TO PUT IT ON SLIDESHOW.
I ACTUALLY HAD IT OPEN UNDER MINIMIZATION ALREADY, BUT EITHER ONE, IT'LL BE FINE IF YOU JUST CLICK ON SLIDESHOW AT THE TOP.
AND THEN THE CLICKER SHOULD WORK FOR YOU AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE INFORMATION ON TRI-CITIES, WHERE WE'RE AT, UH, A LITTLE HISTORY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, UM, AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR NEEDS.
UH, SO AGAIN, I'M DANNY NFE, AND I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER OF TRI-CITIES WASTEWATER.
UM, WE ARE YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
SO WE'RE MADE UP OF, UH, THREE COMMUNITIES, TIPS, CITY, VANDALIA, HUBER HEIGHTS, AND YOU ARE OUR LARGEST CUSTOMER.
UH, TODAY'S JUST WHAT I WANNA GO OVER TODAY, GIVE YOU A LITTLE, UH, HISTORY OF WHAT IS TRI CITIES, TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT CHALLENGES AND, UH, OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE PROJECTS.
SO I'VE GOT A LOT BUNDLED INTO A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, SO I'M GONNA MOVE QUICK.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FEEL FREE TO INTERJECT OR WE CAN WAIT TILL THE END.
UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, HOW I GOT TO TRI-CITIES.
UH, I ACTUALLY STARTED MY CAREER IN HUBER HEIGHTS, UH, IN 2008.
SO I'VE GOT ABOUT 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC UTILITIES.
I'VE MOVED ON TO, UH, CITY OF SYDNEY, INGLEWOOD, HAMILTON.
AND IN MAY OF 21, I WAS HIRED AS THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR TRI-CITIES.
UH, I HOLD A EPA CLASS THREE WATER TREATMENT AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT LICENSE.
AND LAST YEAR I FINISHED MY, UH, ASSOCIATES OF BUSINESS AT SINCLAIR.
SO THIS IS OUR, UH, SERVICE AREA.
VANDALIA AND CUBER HEIGHTS ARE OUR THREE CUSTOMERS.
UH, THAT AREA HAS 67,000 CUSTOMERS.
UH, TRI-CITIES HAS OVER 10 MILES OF PIPE, RANGING FROM 30 TO 42 INCH.
WE HAVE ONE PUMP STATION ON ROSS ROAD, AND WE HAVE SIX CONNECTIONS TO THE THREE CITIES.
SO YOUR INDIVIDUAL SERIES OF PIPES, YOUR COLLECTION SYSTEM, FEEDS INTO OUR SYSTEM.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU CAN SEE AT THE VERY TOP OF THAT MAP, THERE'S A LITTLE BLUE CIRCLE WITH THE YELLOW, WITH THE YELLOW FLAG ON TOP.
THAT'S A KYLE PARK IN TIP CITY.
THAT'S WHERE OUR SYSTEM STARTS.
UH, OUR LINES, OUR SEWER LINES GO STRAIGHT DOWN TO I 70.
THEY CUT OVER EAST ON LITTLE YORK AND RUN DOWN RIPRAP ROAD.
SO THAT'S HOW, IF YOU'RE AT MEYER DISTRIBUTION, YOU FLUSH A TOILET.
THAT'S HOW IT GETS DOWN TO, UH, NEEDMORE ROAD TO OUR PLANT.
SO THIS IS JUST, UH, AN AERIAL SHOT OF OUR TREATMENT FACILITY.
WE'RE AT THE CORNER OF, UH, NEEDMORE AND 2 0 2.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO REALLY GET IN FOR THE SAKE OF, OF THIS DISCUSSION, UH, HOW WE TREAT THE WASTEWATER, BUT I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE YOU ALL TO OUR PLANT.
UH, I THINK IF YOU COULD GIVE US ONE HOUR OF YOUR TIME AND GET WITH MR. TARKOWSKI, UH, TO SCHEDULE A TIME THIS SPRING OR SUMMER, LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TREATMENT PROCESS AND JUST SEE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.
UM, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PROJECTS WE HAVE COMING UP AND WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, IF THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM.
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TO GIVE US AN HOUR AT SOME POINT THIS SPRING OR SUMMER COME DOWN AND, UH, JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION AT THE PLANT.IT WAS DESIGNED IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES.
IT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND WENT ONLINE IN 1985.
IT'S DESIGNED, DESIGNED TO TREAT 11.2 MILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER PER DAY ON, UH, HIGH FLOW RAIN EVENTS.
WE CAN RECEIVE UP TO 40 MILLION GALLONS IN ONE DAY.
UH, WHAT WE DO AT THE PLANT IS WE REMOVE THE HIGH STRENGTH WASTE.
SO AS THAT WASTE COMES INTO THE PLANT, WE REMOVE IT, WE TREAT IT, WE DEPOSIT IT BACK TO THE GREAT MIAMI RIVER.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO REMOVE NUTRIENTS, LIKE AMMONIA AND THINGS LIKE THAT FROM THE STREAM.
UH, NUTRIENTS ARE GREAT FOR YOUR, YOUR CROPS, YOUR PLANTS OR GARDENS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE REALLY BAD FOR THE RIVER.
SO WE HAVE REALLY STRICT EPA LIMITS, UH, ON REMOVING THOSE.
AND THOSE LIMITS ARE ONLY GONNA GET, UH, MORE STRICT, UH, WITH TIME.
A FEW BYPRODUCTS FOR THE TREATMENT PROCESS.
ONE, THE MAIN ONE IS THE CLEAN WATER STREAM.
WE TAKE THE DIRTY WATER, WE MAKE IT CLEAN.
UH, WE REPORT TO THE OHIO EPA.
THEY'RE OUR GOVERNING BODY, AND WE HAVE VERY STRICT LIMITS.
BECAUSE OF OUR PROXIMITY TO THE DAYTON WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
WE HAVE VERY STRICT LIMITS ON WHAT WE CAN PUT TO THE RIVER.
UM, DURING THE TREATMENT PROCESS, WE PRODUCE 8 MILLION GALLONS OF BIOSOLIDS PER YEAR.
THOSE ARE JUST THE SOLIDS WE PULL OUT DURING THE TREATMENT PROCESS.
UM, WE DIGEST THOSE SOLIDS, WE PROCESS 'EM ON SITE, AND WE PRODUCE METHANE GAS ON SITE.
UH, WITH THAT METHANE GAS, WE CAPTURE IT.
AND WE HAVE, UH, ELECTRIC GENERATION THAT WE USE, UH, THE METHANE FOR.
WE HAVE TWO METHANE FIRED ENGINES AND ONSITE WE CAN PRODUCE.
WHEN THE PLANT IS RUNNING OPTIMAL, WE CAN PRODUCE 50 TO 60% OF ALL OF OUR ELECTRIC DEMAND.
SO THAT WAS A REALLY GREEN INITIATIVE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 1985.
UM, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THESE RUN 24 7.
SO THEY REQUIRE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.
UH, WE OWN 600 ACRES ON SULLIVAN ROAD.
UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DONE SULLIVAN ROAD AND SEEN THOSE BLUE TANKS, UH, IT'S, IT'S IN BETWEEN STATE ROUTE 40 AND ROSS ROAD.
WE OWN 600 ACRES, AND WE LEASE 200 MORE, UM, OFF OF STATE ROUTE 40 FROM M C D.
AND WHAT WE DO ON THE FARM IS WE TAKE THOSE BIOSOLIDS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, WE LAND APPLY 'EM.
SO THAT PROVIDES ALL THE PHOSPHOROUS PNEUMONIA FOR THE CROPS.
UH, WE WORK WITH BOWMAN AND LANDIS.
AND BECAUSE WE APPLY THOSE BIOSOLIDS, WE DON'T HAVE TO, UH, THEY DO, WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO PUT ANY COMMERCIAL FERTILIZER ON THE GROUND.
SO JUST A QUICK PICTURE OF THIS IS HOW WE APPLY THE BIOS, SOLIDS TO THE FARM.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO BIG TRACTORS AND TANKERS.
WE FILL 'EM UP AND WE SPRAY IT OVER, AND THEN THE, AND THEN THE FARMER COMES IN AND DISK AND, AND SIZZLES IT IN.
UH, SO THE NEXT TWO PARTS ARE REALLY THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THIS PRESENTATION.
OUR CURRENT CHALLENGES, UH, AND LIMITATIONS, WE'LL GO OVER FIRST.
UM, OUR TREATMENT FACILITY WILL NEED MORE ROADS ONLY ALMOST 40 YEARS OLD.
UH, WERE DUE FOR MAJOR UPGRADES AND EXPANSION.
UH, THE GROWING COMMUNITIES TO THE IN FLOW TO THE PLANT HAVE NEARLY MAXED OUT OUR ABILITY TO REMAIN WITHIN REGULATORY COMPLIANCE.
SO, LIKE I SAID, WE REPORT TO THE EPA MONTHLY AND ANNUALLY WITH A SERIES OF REPORTS.
UM, BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITIES, THE, THE THREE COMMUNITIES, TIP, VANDA AND HUBER HAVE GROWN SO MUCH IN THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AS THE DATA SHOWS US OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
UM, WE ARE ALMOST MAXED OUT AS HOW MUCH WE CAN TREAT THE WASTEWATER DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF FLOW COMING TO US NOW, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE MORE.
BUT WHEN I TALK ABOUT, UH, FUTURE EXPANSION, UH, TIP CITY, UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA WHERE, UH, MEYER DISTRIBUTION IS IN ABBOTT, UH, ABBOTT IS, ABBOTT NUTRITION IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOUBLING THE PRODUCTION AND THE SIZE OF THEIR PLANT RIGHT NOW.
UM, MEYER DISTRIBUTION HAS A, UH, DAIRY SECTION WITHIN THAT COMPLEX WHERE THEY PRODUCE ICE CREAM, MILK, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THOSE ARE HIGH WASTE LOAD CONTRIBUTORS.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO DOUBLE PRODUCTION TOO.
SO THAT'S DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF FLOW FROM THEM THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE.
THEY'RE TWO OF OUR LARGEST INDUSTRIES IN OUR AREA.
VANDELLIA HAS, AND DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, UM, THEY HAVE AROUND 800 ACRES OF ZONED INDUSTRIAL LAND THAT'S CURRENTLY VACANT, AND THEY ARE AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO BUILD ON THAT.
UH, THAT IS ALL, UH, WASTE FLOW THAT WILL COME TO US THAT WE CURRENTLY NOT CANNOT ACCEPT WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENT.
UH, AND THEN IN HUBER HEIGHTS, WHEN I STARTED IN HUBER IN 2008 WITH, UH, SUEZ ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, THE CARRIAGE TRAIL PROJECT WAS REALLY JUST TAKEN OFF.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN THAT GROW OVER THE LAST, UH, 15 YEARS.
AND WE KNOW THAT RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IS GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW UP UNTIL WE ASSUME THE BUILDOUT WILL BE IN 2040.
SO, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE WITHIN OUR SYSTEM, THERE IS A LOT OF GROWTH THAT HAS HAPPENED, AND THERE'S EVEN MORE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
UH, SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THAT AND START PLANT EXPANSIONS NOW, WHICH, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT.
SO THE HYDRAULIC FLOW, THE WASTE STREAM THAT COMES TO THE PLANT FROM THE THREE COMMUNITIES IN 2022 IS 92% OF THE 11.2 MILLION GALLON
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CAPACITY.SO WE'RE ALMOST AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO THAT SHOWS THAT AS THIS EXPANSIONS IN THE THREE CITIES IS HAPPENING, WE'RE ALMOST TO THE BRINK OF, UM, I MEAN, WE CAN KEEP ACCEPTING WATER, BUT THE AGENCIES THAT WE APPLY TO FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND THINGS, THEY'RE GONNA START QUESTIONING THE THREE CITIES AS THAT'S HA AS THAT HAPPENS.
UM, OUR CAPACITY HYDRAULICALLY IS LIMITED AT THE PLANT AND COLLECTION SYSTEM.
OUR FACILITIES WERE DESIGNED IN THE MID EIGHTIES, AND USUALLY THAT'S ABOUT A 30 YEAR PLAN.
WHEN YOU DESIGN A PLANT LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE A 30 YEAR OUTLOOK.
WELL, WE'RE ALMOST A 40 YEARS, SO EVERYTHING IS CURRENTLY UNDERSIZED.
UM, THE PIPES TO THE PLANT, AND THEN THE PLANT ITSELF.
AND THEN WE KNOW THERE'S STATE REGULATION COMING, UH, WITH LIMITS THAT OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE CAN, UH, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET WITHOUT UPGRADES.
SO WE KNOW THE EPA, UH, IN THE NEXT PERMIT CYCLE, WHICH IS FIVE YEARS, IS GONNA HIT US WITH A PHOSPHORUS LIMIT.
WE CAN'T TREAT FOR PHOSPHORUS AT ALL.
UM, IN 10 TO 15 YEARS, WE'RE GONNA GET A LOWER AMMONIA LIMIT, A TOTAL NITROGEN LIMIT, AND IN 20 YEARS, WE'RE GONNA GET A TOTAL DISSOLVED LIMIT, NONE OF WHICH WE CAN MEET.
SO IF WE GOT THOSE TODAY, WE, WE COULD NOT TREAT FOR THEM.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EPA, UM, YOU CAN'T SAY NO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SAY, HEY, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
SO WHAT MYSELF AND THE TRI-CITIES BOARD ARE UP AGAINST RIGHT NOW ARE COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
UH, I WANNA PUT THIS IN HERE JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME SETBACKS.
SO, UH, A CHALLENGE WE'VE HAD WAS, THIS WAS, UH, RIGHT AFTER, ACTUALLY THIS PICTURE WAS LAST YEAR, BUT YOU CAN SEE IN BETWEEN THE YELLOW LINES ON MEMORIAL DAY OF 2019, WE TOOK A DIRECT HIT FROM AN F TWO TORNADO.
UH, IT TOOK SEVERAL OF OUR TANKS OFFLINE.
IT COST ABOUT $600,000 TO REPAIR.
AND, UM, IT JUST, IT, I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND THE WORDS, BUT OUR PROCESSES, UH, WEREN'T WORKING.
I I DID THIS PRESENTATION SO MANY TIMES, UH, TODAY.
UH, BUT ANYWAYS, NO ONE KNEW THAT THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH REDUNDANT PROCESSES AND MECHANISMS THAT WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T FLUSH TODAY.
SO IT SET US BACK, UH, FINANCIALLY IT SET US BACK IN TERMS OF, UM, OPERATIONALLY.
BUT, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH IT.
UH, BEFORE I STARTED IN 2020 AND 2021, WE HAD TWO MAJOR PIPE COLLAPSES IN THE TAYLORSVILLE METRO PARK AND A 30 INCH CONCRETE LINE.
THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT, THE HOLE THAT YOU SEE, UM, IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT YOU COULD FIT ABOUT THREE FULL SIZE PICKUP TRUCKS IN THAT HOLE.
UH, THAT WAS IN THE TAYLORSVILLE METRO PARK, WHICH IS A, A MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN.
UM, WHEN YOU SEE ALL OF THAT DIRT AND LAND MISSING, WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT ALL GOT WASHED DOWN TO OUR PLANT.
SO WE HAD A SERIES OF JUST CLOGGED, UM, PIPES, PUMPS, BURN MOTORS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE DEALT WITH FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.
AND EVERY TIME WE GET A RAIN EVENT NOW, AND IT, THE WATER KIND OF HAMMERS THAT DEBRIS THAT'S STILL IN THE LINE, WE STILL SEE IT COME TO THE PLANT.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH.
UH, THESE REPAIRS COST US AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS TO COMPLETE.
AND, UM, I'LL SHOW YOU SOMETHING HERE IN A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'RE DOING TO CONTINUE TO COMBAT THESE ISSUES.
BUT THAT WAS, UH, A MAJOR CHALLENGE FOR US OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
THE ONE ON THE LEFT WITH THE BLUE HEADING IS FROM THE US EPA FROM 2010.
UH, THAT WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER FOR TRI-CITIES TO ELIMINATE ALL SANITARY SEWER OVER OVERFLOW LOCATIONS.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN WE GET A STORM EVENT AND ALL OF THAT 40 MILLION GALLONS, WHICH IS NORMALLY 11, COMES DOWN TO OUR PLANT PIPES FILL UP TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN'T HANDLE IT ANYMORE, AND IT OVERFLOWS OUT OF A MANHOLE.
SO THAT'S A SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW.
UH, WE HAD ABOUT 70 IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS TO 70 LOCATIONS.
WERE DOWN TO ABOUT FOUR NOW, BUT WE'RE STILL UNDER THE ORDERS.
SO THAT IS A CHALLENGE OF OURS.
UM, LAST AUGUST, THE OHIO EPA GAVE US TWO VIOLATIONS.
ONE, AGAIN, TO ADDRESS THE, UH, SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW LOCATIONS.
AND TWO, UH, DUE TO OUR INABILITY TO TREAT THE WASTEWATER WHEN WE GET THAT 40 MILLION GALLONS.
SO, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THAT VIOLATION BY GIVING THE OHIO EPA A VERY DETAILED PLAN OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MITIGATE THESE ISSUES IN OUR FUTURE PLANS.
SO, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE GONNA HOLD US TO THESE
SO, UH, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, THIS GRAPHIC IS FROM A, UH, PUBLISHED STUDY FROM THE N V R P C IN OCTOBER OF 2022.
UH, THIS STUDY WAS A FLOW RATE STUDY THAT NM V R P C COLLECTED FLOW DATA FROM THEIR REGIONS, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANS FROM 2017 TO 2021.
AND I HIGHLIGHTED ON HERE, TRI-CITIES WAS LISTED AS A, AS A FACILITY OF MAJOR CONCERN.
UM, AT THE BOTTOM, THEY NOTED THAT OF MORE OBVIOUS CONCERN OR DEVELOPMENTS IN THE TRI-CITIES, FPA, TROY FPA, WERE ALREADY STRESSED.
FACILITIES ARE EXPERIENCING NEW FLOWS FROM FIVE TO 10 DEVELOPMENTS A YEAR.
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WHEN WE RECEIVED THIS, UM, I MEAN, IT WAS NO SURPRISE TO US, BUT IT JUST SHOWS THAT US EPA, THE OHIO E EPA, THE MV R P C, THEY'RE ALL ONTO US.YOU KNOW, OUR, THE FACT THAT OUR CITIES HAVE OUTGROWN OUR FACILITY AND OUR UNDERGROUND PIPES IS, UH, IT'S NO SURPRISE TO ANYBODY ANYMORE.
AND AGAIN, WHEN THE DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR AND WE HAVE TO APPLY TO THESE AGENCIES, WE'RE GONNA START GETTING SOME KICKBACK.
UH, I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT THE SEWER RATE STRUCTURE FOR A LITTLE BIT.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS, BUT THE CITY OF PICKLE PUTS ON A, UH, UTILITY RATE SURVEY.
THIS IS JUST THE SEWER PORTION.
THIS GRAPHIC IS A THIRD OF THE WHOLE LIST OF, UM, EVERYONE THAT THEY SURVEY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, HUBER HEIGHTS IS THE, UH, CHEAPEST SEWER RATE IN THE AREA.
MENDE IS NUMBER TWO, AND SIP CITY IS NUMBER FIVE.
SO OUR THREE CUSTOMERS MAKE UP THE THREE CHEAPEST UTILITIES IN THE AREA THAT THE SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED UNDER.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT FROM 2020 TO 2021, SO 21 YEARS, WE DID NOT RAISE RATES ONE TIME TO THE THREE MEMBER COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT WHEN WE CAN.
UM, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT DEFERS MAINTENANCE AND DOES NOT ALLOW US TO HAVE FUNDS FOR UNFORESEEN, UH, MAJOR REPAIRS.
AND THINGS LIKE WE'VE HAD, UH, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, TRI-CITIES HAS INCREASED RATES TO THE THREE MEMBER COMMUNITIES BY 10%.
UH, WE DID THAT IN 2021 AND 2022.
AND WE PLAN ON CONTINUING TO DO IT, UH, TO PAY FOR THE MAJOR CAPITAL UPGRADES THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT.
SO, WHAT MYSELF AND THE TRI-CITIES BOARD, UH, WE DON'T VIEW THIS AS A NEGATIVE THING.
WE'VE HAD A REALLY CHEAP RATE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
UH, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE OUR RATES TO THE POINT WHERE WE GET MAYBE A THIRD OF THE WAY OR HALF THE WAY DOWN THAT THAT RATE CHART.
UH, AND WE STILL HAVE A VERY COMPETITIVE RATE THAT ENCOURAGES BUSINESSES TO WANT TO COME AND RESIDENTS CAN WANT TO COME TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
SO, UH, THE LAST TALK IS JUST THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A, UH, SEWER LINING PROJECT.
SO WE HAD THOSE COLLAPSES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
WE ARE LINING AND RENEWING 5,800 FEET, UH, 3000 FEET NORTH OF THE COLLAPSE, AND 2,800 FEET SOUTH OF THE COLLAPSE ON THAT, UH, 30 INCH CONCRETE LINE.
UH, WE WERE AWARDED A 2.4 MILLION GRANT THAT FUNDED THE ENTIRE PROJECT, AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
UM, THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS LEFT IN THAT GRANT.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STATE TO CLEAN AND INSPECT AN ADDITIONAL 3000 FEET OF PIPE FROM POWER ROAD DOWN TO OUR PLAN ON NEMO ROAD.
AND THAT WILL GET ALL OF THAT GRAVEL AND DEBRIS THAT DOES COLLAPSES, UH, SWALLOWED UP.
SO WE WON'T KEEP SEEING THAT IN THE FACILITY.
UH, I WANT TO PUT THIS PICTURE IN HERE, CUZ I'D ONLY BEEN HERE A FEW MONTHS AT THIS POINT.
UH, WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT IN AUGUST.
A NUMBER OF YOU WERE HERE THAT DAY WHEN, UH, WHEN GOVERNOR DEWINE CAME AND AWARD US US THAT, AND I WANT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
BUT I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE LARGE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO TAKE ON, WE ARE CONTINUALLY LOOKING FOR CREATIVE FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO NOT PUT THE BURDEN OF ALL OF, UH, THE COST OF THESE PROJECTS ONTO OUR TAXPAYERS.
UH, THE SECOND PROJECT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS A HYDRAULIC MODELING AND WET WEATHER STORAGE TANK PROJECT.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, SSOS WHEN THE, WHEN THE WATER IN THE PIPE, WHEN THE PIPE CAN'T HANDLE IT, AND IT COMES OUT OF THE MANHOLES OVERFLOWS ONTO THE GROUND.
UH, SO WE'VE BUILT TWO OF THESE IN TIP CITY IN 2014.
THEY HOLD 3 MILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER EACH.
AND SO WHEN THESE RAIN EVENTS HAPPEN, WE WILL FILL UP THESE TANKS INSTEAD OF OVERLOADING OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM, WE FILL THESE TANKS UP, THE STORM ENDS, AND THEN OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, WE'LL SLOWLY DRAIN THESE TANKS TO OUR SYSTEM.
SO WE DON'T OVERLOAD OUR PLANT.
WE, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING TWO OF THESE IN THE TAYLORSVILLE METRO PARK.
THERE'LL BE 3.4 MILLION GALLONS EACH.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MCD TO SECURE THE SIDING IN A LONG TERM, UH, LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO THE TRI-CITIES BOARD, UM, THEY'RE MADE UP OF THE THREE CITY MANAGERS AND, UH, THEY APPROVED LAST MONTH.
UH, ON THE BOTTOM LINE, WE SIZE THE EQ TANKS FOR A1 YEAR STORM EVENT.
AND WITH THE, THE TANKS AND ALL OF THE PIPING, UH, AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, THAT PROJECT TOTAL IS ESTIMATED TO BE 20.6 MILLION.
SO DESIGN IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.
UM, UH, THE DESIGN ENGINEERING WILL BE COMPLETED ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.
AND AT THAT POINT, WE'LL PUT THE PROJECT OUT TO BID.
UH, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN REALLY BATTLING THE LAST FEW YEARS.
THE, UH, I CALL 'EM THE NOT SO FLUSHABLE WIPES.
UM, YOU SEE 'EM AT THE STORES, THEY'RE MARKETED FLUSHABLE, AND THERE'S RECENTLY A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT TO REMOVE THAT WORD FROM THE PRODUCT.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WAY OF, OF, OF THESE STOPPING
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THESE FROM GETTING THROUGH THE PLANT, SO THEY WOULD MAKE THEIR WAY THROUGH.IT'S, IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE ALL OVER THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY, THESE, THESE FLUSHABLE WIPES AND, UH, THE TRI-CITIES BOARD APPROVED LAST YEAR SPENDING $80,000 TO BUY THESE GRINDERS.
SO WHEN THINGS ENTER THE PLANT, THEY'RE GONNA GET PULLED.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE PRETTY AGGRESSIVE.
UH, SO THAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP OUT OUR TREATMENT PROCESS.
AND THE LAST PROJECT, I SAY THE BEST FOR LAST.
SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NARRATIVE OF THIS PRESENTATION HAS BEEN OUR CITIES HAVE GROWN, GROWN, GROWN.
OUR PLANTS STAYED THE SAME SIZE.
OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM AND OUR PIPES HAVE STAYED THE SAME SIZE AS OUR CITIES HAVE CONTINUED TO GROW OVER THE LAST 15 OR 20 YEARS.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE DATA HAS SHOWN US THAT WE'VE DONE FROM SOME OF THIS ENGINEERING WORK, THAT OUR DESIGN, UH, CAPACITY CURRENTLY IS 11.2 MILLION GALLONS.
IT'S GONNA NEED TO GO UP TO ABOUT 17.5, UM, TO MEET IN THE NEXT 15 YEARS.
THAT JUST SHOWS YOU WE'RE GONNA ADD ABOUT 6 MILLION GALLONS WORTH OF WASTEWATER FROM THE THREE COMMUNITIES OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS.
SO WHAT WE ARE DOING ABOUT THAT IS WE ARE CONDUCTING TWO PLANNING STUDIES TO ANALYZE THE MAJOR CAPITAL UPGRADES THAT OUR FACILITY NEEDS.
WE'RE WORKING WITH HAZEN AND SAWYER AND STRAND ASSOCIATES ON THOSE TWO STUDIES, AND WE ANTICIPATE THEM BEING COMPLETED BY THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR.
UH, ONE WAS COMPLETED IN OCTOBER AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE OTHER ONE TO BE COMPLETED.
WE DID, UH, RECEIVE A PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATE FOR THE PLANT UPGRADES, AND THE NUMBER IS 81 MILLION.
UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY LARGE NUMBER, BUT IT, UH, WE ARE NOT UNIQUE IN THIS AND FACILITIES AROUND THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY.
WHEN YOU TALK TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, AND GO TO YOUR NATIONAL CONFERENCES, YOU'LL SEE THAT, THAT THESE ARE, UH, THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE NOT UNIQUE TO JUST OUR AREA THAT WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS ALL OVER.
UH, AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AS ONE OF THE LARGEST, UH, ISSUES RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT, THAT WE'RE FIGHTING.
UM, I DID WANT TO SAY THAT OVER THE COURSE OF A 30 YEAR LOAN, OUR 67,000 CUSTOMERS WOULD PAY.
AND, AND THIS ISN'T, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS NUMBER, THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE DIVISION, BUT IT'D BE ABOUT $4 A MONTH OVER THE COURSE OF THAT 30 YEAR LOAN.
SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A LOT, BUT WE KNOW THAT THESE PROJECTS WILL GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOR YOUR BUILDOUT, WHICH WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE 2040.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE'LL JUST DO SMALL AND MEDIUM PROJECTS AND WE'LL HAVE SET THE NEXT GENERATIONS UP FOR THEIR UTILITIES.
SO I DID WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS IS, UH, WHAT STRAND ASSOCIATES GAVE US.
THIS IS A COST BREAKDOWN OF, UH, EVERYTHING THEY'RE GONNA DO AT OUR PLANT.
NONE OF THESE ARE ONCE EVERY SINGLE THING HAS TO HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THE FUTURE FLOWS FROM YOUR COMMUNITIES.
AND, UH, THE INCREASED STATE REGULATION, WHICH WE CANNOT MEET CURRENTLY, UM, WITH THE UPCOMING LIMITS.
SO I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THIS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE WHEN YOU GUYS COME DOWN FOR A TOUR.
UH, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERY SINGLE PART OF OUR PLANT NEEDS UPDATED AND OR EXPANDED.
AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO EXPAND IN THE, IN THE GROUND THAT WE JUST, UH, RECENTLY ACQUIRED FROM HUBER HEIGHTS, WHICH WE APPRECIATE.
SO WE DESPERATELY NEEDED THAT TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR PLANT INTO YOUR OLD WELL FIELD AND, UH, WATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
UH, WE'D APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, TOOK AN HOUR OF YOUR TIME THIS SPRING OR SUMMER TO COME DOWN, UH, GET WITH MR. TARKOWSKI ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAD.
THANKS SO MUCH AGAIN FOR, FOR COMING.
I MEAN, THIS IS ALL GREAT INFORMATION.
UH, I JUST OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS, UH, NANCY? UH, YEAH, THE, UH, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD THE CHEAPEST RATES AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT, UM, THAT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOT BEEN A LOT OF LONG RANGE PLANNING AND BUDGETING SO THAT WE DIDN'T COME UP TO THIS POINT WHERE NOW WE NEED THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT TO, TO GET WILD.
YEAH, I, I CAN'T TALK ON THE HISTORY AS MUCH.
YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE A COUPLE YEARS AND I ONLY TRAINED WITH MY PREDECESSOR FOR A WEEK AND A HALF.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE HISTORY, BUT I HAVE SEEN THERE WAS STUDY SUN IN 2010 AND 2015, AND WE'VE JUST HAD SO MANY UNEXPECTED CATASTROPHES AT OUR PLANT THAT HAS PUSHED BACK SOME OF THIS PLANNING TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
UM, BEFORE I STARTED, THERE WAS A PLANNING STUDY CONDUCTED IN 2020.
UM, WHEN I GOT ON BOARD, WE DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THAT LOOKED AND WE RECOGNIZED, UH, THAT IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.
SO WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO A COUPLE NEW FIRMS AND REALLY TAKE A DIFFERENT LOOK AT HOW WE, HOW WE IMPROVE THIS PLAN.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, AND I WAS TRYING TO PULL UP THE SLIDES UP ALONG ON THE MBR R P C BOARD.
UM, AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION OF THIS AT THE MEETING RECENTLY, AND I THOUGHT THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PRESENTED THERE WAS LIKE 22 MILLION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS JUST ONE SMALL SEGMENT OF WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
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UH, YEAH.WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE M V R P C STUDY OR YEAH, THE, THERE, THE BUDGET REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN, UH, FOR LONG TERM PROJECTS? IT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN ONE PORTION OF IT THAT WAS, UH, OH, THIS, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
IS THIS, IS THAT, CUZ THAT SAYS 20.6 AT THE BOTTOM.
UH, I DID NOT, I I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BROKE IT DOWN TO A SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC PROJECT.
THEY JUST HAD THE, THE TRI-COUNTY PROJECT AND THEN THE, UM, OR THE TRI-CITIES CON, UH, PROJECT AND THEN THE, THE BUDGET AMOUNT NEXT TO IT AND BASICALLY THE NEED TO UPGRADE.
WAS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAD GUYS HAD DISCUSSED AT A DIFFERENT TIME? I'M, NO, WE DID IT, UH, WHAT IS THIS? TUESDAY, THURSDAY.
UM, YEAH, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE SLIDES RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO FIND IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UH, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'VE GOT THERE.
YEAH, I WAS MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE LONG RANGE PLANNING.
WELL, AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT EVERYTHING I TALK ABOUT IS ABOUT TRI-CITIES.
YOU GUYS ARE THE LARGEST CUSTOMER AT 53% OF ALL OF OUR FLOW.
SO YOU ARE THE LARGEST CUSTOMER.
BUT WHEN I TALK, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HUBER HEIGHTS RATES OR HUBER HEIGHTS, ANYTHING.
I'M TALKING ABOUT TRI-CITIES, SO I UNDERSTAND.
NOW, DO YOU, WHEN YOU, DO YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, WHEN YOU SAY WE'RE THE LARGEST, IS THAT A, IS THAT CONSIDERING, UM, INDUSTRIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL OR, OR THE TOTAL DRAW ON THE SYSTEM? SO IT'S JUST THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL ON THE SYSTEM.
WHEN WE LOOK, UH, I SEND OUT, WE SEND OUT A MONTHLY BILL TO EACH COMMUNITY AND HUBER HEIGHTS MAKES UP 53% OF THE TOTAL POT, ESSENTIALLY JUST BASED ON FLOW.
SO I MEAN, THAT VARIES A LITTLE BIT YEAR BY YEAR, BUT IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, DANNY, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE PRESENTATION.
I WAS ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WAS PRESIDENT AT, UH, UM, GRANT PRESENTATION BY THE GOVERNOR.
UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A RARE OPPORTUNITY THAT, UH, I'M GOING TO HEAVILY AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN BURGE ON IT.
IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE WE'RE BEING EXTREMELY REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE.
UM, I KNOW DURING MY, YOU KNOW, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS ON THIS COUNCIL, UM, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD A, A COMPLETE PRESENTATION BY TRI-CITIES.
UM, AND BEING THE LARGEST USER OF THIS, UM, OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, I IT'S A BIT CONCERNING, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE MADE, UM, CITY ADMINISTRATION, NOT CURRENT PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION AWARE THAT I KNEW THAT WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO THE THRESHOLD, UM, THAT THE PLANT WOULD ALLOW BECAUSE OF MY COMMUNICATION AND COLLEAGUES, UM, UH, WITHIN THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
UM, WE CONTINUE TO, TO GROW AND TO BUILD.
UM, AND IT APPEARS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF FORETHOUGHT HAS GONE INTO WHAT KIND OF LONG-TERM STRAIN THAT PUTS ON A SYSTEM OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
AND I'M NOT SAYING JUST HUBER HEIGHTS, I'M ALSO, YOU KNOW, SAYING THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
UM, AND I'M NOT DISCOUNTING AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'VE, I'VE WENT TO SEVERAL NATIONAL CONFERENCES AND BROUGHT THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE DO HAVE A AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE HAVE TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
WE HAVE TO START TURNING OVER THE COUCH CUSHIONS.
WE HAVE TO START, YOU KNOW, THESE CONVERSATIONS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
HOWEVER, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE AT THE 11TH HOUR RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BAKING, YOU KNOW, BREAKING DOWN THE BANK'S DOORS SAYING WE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED MONEY.
UM, NOT ONLY AM I AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THIS COMMUNITY, I'M ALSO A RESIDENT.
I, I PAY INTO THIS AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
UM, AND TO, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, A DRASTIC INCREASE THAT IS BEING ASKED OF THIS NATURE.
IT'S A BIT THE STOMACH, UH, IT TRULY IS.
AND, AND I'M NOT, AND I KNOW THAT YOU, AS YOU STATED EARLIER, THESE PRESENTATIONS ARE GIVEN, YOU KNOW, BEING GIVEN TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT.
I THINK YOU SAID THIS IS WHAT YOUR, AT LEAST YOUR SECOND ONE TODAY, IF NOT MORE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIT OF MY FRUSTRATION.
BUT AT THE SAME POINT IN TIME I SAID THAT WE'RE MOVING ON NOW, HOW DO WE, UH, NOW HOW DO WE GET TO MOVING ON, UH, WHAT IS THE, THE BEST WAY TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B? WE KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
UH, THE BOARD HAS APPROVED THE PLAN.
UM, I, I KNOW HUBER HEIGHTS HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED LAND TO TRI-CITIES
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FOR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE EXPANSION YEAH.BUT, BUT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, AND A 50,000 FOOT VIEW, AND I KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF GREAT SLIDES.
UM, BUT ARE, ARE WE EVEN CONFIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE NEEDS, NOT ONCE, THAT WE ARE STILL BEING PROACTIVE, OR ARE WE STILL IN A REACTIVE STAGE? SO, UH, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
YOU KNOW, I TOOK THIS POSITION LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO AND I, I JUMPED INTO THE DEEP END FINDING OUT, HEY, YOU KNOW, WELCOME TO TRI-CITIES.
WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TACKLE.
UM, SO I'M, I'M SORRY, WHAT? REPEAT THE QUESTION FOR ME.
UM, I'M, I'M GONNA SUM IT UP HERE.
UH, A LOT OF IT WAS, UH, WAS VENTING AND FRUSTRATION, BUT MY OVERARCHING QUESTION IS, IS WITH THE PLAN THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED HERE, UM, IN YOUR OPINION AND IN THE BOARD'S OPINION, IS THIS STILL A REACTIVE SITUATION OR ARE WE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT PROACTIVE MEASURES? AND I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT FUTURE EPA GUIDELINES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THESE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HUBER HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE OTHER COMMUNITY'S EXPANSION PLANS, GROWTH PLANS, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE COMING BACK AND HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW? YEAH.
BECAUSE OF UNEXPECTED GROWTH OR, OR, YOU KNOW, A A A BIG LARGE, YOU KNOW, MANUFACTURER CAME IN BECAUSE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, CLOSENESS TO I 70, I 75.
THAT JUST PUTS AN IMMEDIATE STRAIN ON THE, ON THE SYSTEM.
UM, I GUESS KIND OF WALK ME THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS.
SO IS THIS REACTIVE? TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, IT IS.
YOU KNOW, OUR RATES DIDN'T SUPPORT ANY, ANY IMPROVEMENTS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
SO TO BE PROACTIVE, WE NEED TO START INCREASING OUR RATES AND BUILD THOSE BALANCES AND DO ALL THE RIGHT THINGS TO PREPARE FOR FUTURE INVESTMENTS, UH, FACILITIES OF THIS SIZE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED AT A NUMBER OF GOVERNMENTS, FACILITIES, UH, EVERY 20 YEARS, SHOULD DO A MAJOR PROJECT EVERY 20 YEARS, SHOULD BE DOING A MEDIUM SIZE PROJECT.
WE HAVEN'T DONE A LOT, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE HISTORY ON THAT.
SO IS THIS REACTIVE? YES, WE ARE AT THE 11TH HOUR.
MY, MY POSITION HERE, I SEE IT.
AND, AND I'VE GOTTEN THIS QUESTION THAT EVERY, ALL THREE COUNCILS NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE WHY, BUT MY POSITION HERE IS TO PRO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS.
YOU KNOW, I'M HERE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN? SO I THINK INCREASING OUR RATE STRUCTURE AND PREPARING FOR ALL THE FUTURE NEEDS AND NOT SAYING, HEY, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT.
UM, WE'VE CREATED A FIVE YEAR, UH, AND 10 YEAR CAPITAL PLAN JUST TO, UM, OUTLINE ALL OF OUR NEEDS.
THE BOARD TASKED ME WITH THAT LAST YEAR.
SO NOW WE ARE, WE ARE FORECASTING NEEDS FOR 10 YEARS OUT.
WE'VE PUT A COUPLE FOR THE LATE 2030.
SO WHEN I GET CLOSE TO RETIREMENT, WE CAN SAY, HEY, IN 2030, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, UM, 15 YEARS SINCE WE DID THE BIG IMPROVEMENTS, NOW WE NEED TO START SEEING WHAT THE NEXT IMPROVEMENTS ARE.
SO WE, WE HAVE PUT THOSE ON PAPER.
UM, WE'VE ADOPTED SOME OF THESE POLICIES AND, AND I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH THAT THERE IS FORWARD THINKING NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WASN'T BEFORE.
UM, BUT THINGS DID NOT HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, UH, WE DID HAVE A LOT OF UNFORTUNATE SERIES OF EVENTS.
BUT YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YEAH, THIS IS REACTIVE.
UM, THESE PLANS HAVE BEEN IN THE WORK, UH, THE FIRST STUDY TO SHOW WHAT WE NEEDED DONE WAS 2011.
SO THEY REALLY STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT IN THE EARLY 2000 TENS THAT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION FOR WHATEVER REASON.
AND THEN IN 2020, THERE WAS ANOTHER STUDY DONE, AND THEN I CAME ON BOARD AND I DIDN'T LIKE THE LOOK OF THAT STUDY AT ALL.
AND I'M REALLY HAPPY WE'VE GONE AWAY FROM THAT.
SO YEAH, WE'RE A COUPLE YEARS BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.
UH, BUT REALISTICALLY, IF, UM, IF I WASN'T HERE, YOU KNOW, A PLAN WOULD'VE STARTED TWO YEARS AGO.
SO WE STILL WOULD'VE KIND OF BEEN AT THE 11TH HOUR.
BUT, UM, WE ARE REALLY THINKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE TO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN.
MAYOR, UH, FIRST, UH, DANNY, I, I, I CERTAINLY RESPECT THE ANSWER YOU GAVE.
IT'S VERY RARE INSIDE THIS CHAMBER THAT WE DON'T GET A HOLLYWOOD OR POLITICAL TWO-STEP ANSWER.
AND THE FACT THAT YOU SAID, I JUST FLAT DON'T KNOW WHY THAT HAPPENED, I THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT'S HONEST.
NUMBER TWO, YOU, YOU DID TOUCH ON EARLIER IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION OF THE NATURAL DISASTER THAT OCCURRED WITH THE TORNADOES BACK IN 2019.
UM, I ASSUME THAT THERE HAS BEEN FORWARD THINKING OF WHAT IF SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE OCCURS AGAIN.
WHAT IF THE, UM, SYSTEM GOES OFFLINE? WHAT TYPES OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, UH, MEASURES ARE ABLE TO PUT IN PLACE? AND I'M SURE THAT'S A PART OF THIS UPCOMING PLAN? WOULD I BE CORRECT ON THAT? UH, WE'RE, WE'RE MANDATED BY THE STATE TO HAVE EMERGENCY, UH, RESPONSE PLANS.
SO WE DO HAVE THOSE AND WE UPDATE THOSE AS NEEDED.
BUT, UH, AN ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE ACTION PLAN WON'T BE PART OF THIS.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF SOMETHING COMES THROUGH AND TAKES OUT THE WHOLE PLANT, THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO AT THAT POINT, BUT WE DO HAVE THE REDUNDANCY WITHIN OUR SYSTEM TO HAVE CERTAIN THINGS GO OFFLINE AT CERTAIN
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TIMES AND BE ABLE TO PUMP AROUND IT OR NOT USE THOSE TANKS.SO, BUT WE ARE MANDATED BY THE STATE TO HAVE EMERGENCY RESPONSE ACTION PLANS.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I'M SURE THE, MY, UH, MY LINE OF QUESTIONING WASN'T EASY, BUT I, I APPRECIATE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THANK YOU, MA'AM.
UM, FIRST I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE WITH REGARD TO THE STORAGE TANKS, THE, UM, UH, THE TWO AND THE, THE, UH, PROPOSED NEW ONES, DOES THE INS INSTALLATION OF THE STORAGE TANKS GIVE US ANY KIND OF A, UM, SAFETY NET AGAINST GOING OVER CAPACITY AT ALL? UM, DO THEY, IN OTHER WORDS, DO THEY COUNT AGAINST OUR CAPACITY? UH, THEY WILL DEFINITELY HELP OUT.
FOR THE MOST PART, THEY ARE FOR WET WEATHER EVENTS.
UM, BUT WE ARE, WITH THAT PROJECT GONNA PUT SOME NEW PIPE IN THE GROUND, UM, THAT WILL DEFINITELY HELP US OUT.
SO WITH THE STORAGE TANKS, WE ARE, WE ARE GONNA PUT SOME NEW LARGER SIZE PIPES IN THE GROUND THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST, UH, THOSE TANKS GOING IN WITH THAT PROJECT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO IT AND TOO TECHNICAL, BUT, UM, THERE ARE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, WHICH WILL DEFINITELY HELP THE FLOW TO THE PLANT AND ELIMINATE ALL OF THOSE OVERFLOW ISSUES.
UH, A SECOND QUESTION THAT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS HAD A RATHER UNFORTUNATE EXPERIENCE WITH PIPE LINING, UM, AS A PLUMBER, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PIPE LININGS, BUT I WAS WONDERING FOR THOSE LISTENING IN ON THOSE IN THE GALLERY, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE TYPE OF LINING, UH, THAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THE SEWER, UH, PIPES AND THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THAT LINING? YEAH, SO WE ARE, IT'S A METHOD CALLED C I P P, SO IT'S CURED IN PLACE PIPE.
UM, THE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS 50 TO 60 YEARS.
AND, UH, WHAT THEY DO ESSENTIALLY IS THEY PUT THIS LINER IN THE PIPE.
UM, I'LL ALSO LIKE TO SAY, WHEN YOU GET TO PIPE THIS SIZE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU'RE DEALING WITH SIX INCH PIPE, UH, A LOT OF OUTFITS CAN DO THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU GET TO PIPE 30 INCHES, THERE'S ONLY A FEW TO CHOOSE FROM THAT DO IT NATIONALLY.
UM, SO THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GONNA GO IN AND GO FROM SPAN TO SPAN MANHOLE TO MANHOLES, ABOUT 300 FEET.
THEY'RE GONNA PULL THAT LINER THROUGH AND THEY WILL HAVE A COATED IT WITH AN EPOXY COATING.
THEY'LL PUT A, ESSENTIALLY A BALLOON IN THERE AND BLOW IT UP, LET IT SIT FOR A DAY, AND IT WILL HARDEN.
AND IT'S, IT'S PRETTY THIN MATERIAL, BUT IT WILL RENEW THAT PIPE WHEREVER IT'S DEGRADED, UH, FOR A PERIOD OF, UH, 50 TO 60 YEARS.
YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, SPRING 2023 IS WHEN YOU EXPECT THE STUDY TO BE COMPLETED.
DO YOU HAVE A GUESSTIMATE ON THE FINAL BUILD OUT DATE FOR ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS? YEP.
SO WHAT WE, UH, WHAT WE GAVE TO THE OHIO EPA TO GET OUT OF THAT, UH, VIOLATION LAST AUGUST WAS WE TOLD THEM, UH, WE ANTICIPATE THE TRI-CITIES BOARD, UM, MAKING A SELECTION ON A DESIGN FIRM, UH, FOR DESIGN OF THE PLANT UPGRADES AT SOME POINT THIS SUMMER, UH, FROM FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER.
AND, UH, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE'VE GOT 18 TO 24 MONTHS OF DESIGN, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE TO FIVE YEARS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE'RE THINKING, UH, WE'RE THINKING 2029 TO BE COMPLETELY DONE WITH THE PROJECT.
YEAH, APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
[ Sanitary Sewer Rates]
IS ITEM THREE D, WHICH IS THE SANITARY SEWER RATES.UH, IN FOLLOW UP TO, UH, THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM MR. KNIFE, UH, STAFF IS, UH, REQUESTING THAT, UH, AT THE, UH, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, COUNCIL ENTERTAIN LEGISLATION TO INCREASE THE, UH, SANITARY SEWER RATE, UH, BY, UH, BY APPROXIMATELY, UH, 5%, UM, EXCUSE ME, 6%.
UH, AND, UH, THAT WOULD REFLECT, UH, BOTH THE VIOLA INCREASE AS WELL AS, UH, THE INCREASE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRI-CITIES, UH, RATE CHANGE.
THE NET EFFECT TO THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL USER WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $1 AND 21 CENT INCREASE IN THEIR MONTHLY BILL.
SO WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT ON, UH, EXCUSE ME, ON FEBRUARY 13TH.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS MYSELF OR, UH, MR. BELL WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? YES, ED.
BRIAN, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THE SEWER FUND CURRENTLY? UH, I'M SORRY.
I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, APPROXIMATELY.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY?
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CAN WE ASK IF THEY NEED, UH, SECOND READING WAVE CAUSE IT'S, OR CAN IT GO TO TWO READINGS? BRIAN, I ASK, UM, CAN THIS GO TO TWO READINGS? IS THERE ANY REASON THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY? NO, SIR.THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO NEED FOR THIS TO, THERE'S NO NEED FOR THIS TO BE AN EMERGENCY.
SO WE'LL SAY THE FIRST READING MONDAY.
NEXT IS ITEM THREE E, WHICH IS SUPPLEMENTAL
[ Supplemental Appropriations]
APPROPRIATIONS.UH, GOOD EVENING, MAY AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, HAPPY FOR YOU, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS THAT I PUT IN YOUR PACKET.
AND THEN I HAVE TWO, UH, ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT, UH, AFTER I GO THROUGH THESE.
UM, THERE'S SOME, UH, SEVERAL BIG TICKET ITEMS, BUT, UM, UH, THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, THE CITY'S MOVING FORWARD WITH.
UH, FIRST ITEM IS, UM, UH, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE, UH, SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION, UM, WAS RECENTLY BID OUT.
AND THOSE BIDS, WELL, WE MAY BE DISCUSSING THAT LATER IN THE, IN THE MEETING TONIGHT, UH, THE BIDS CAME IN AT 440,000 MORE THAN THE ANTICIPATED, UH, BID PRICE, UH, ESTIMATE.
SO, UH, WE NEED TO MOVE THAT FROM THE SEWER FUND TO THE SEWER CAPITAL FUND.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A $525,000 ADVANCE FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.
AND THAT 525,000 WILL BE USED TO PURCHASE LAND, UH, OFF OF TAYLORSVILLE FOR THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY THAT I THINK, UH, THAT YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF.
UM, ALSO WE ARE, UM, UM, GETTING AN EDGE GRANT.
UH, EDGE GRANT IS BEING, UH, GRANTED TO, UM, MULO INDUSTRIES FOR A PROJECT THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND SO I HAVE AN ADVANCED, UM, RECOMMENDED TO COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THAT EDGE FUND.
WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT'S INITIAL FUNDING TO GIVE TO MILAT, AND THEN, UH, AS THEY PROVE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR, UH, FOR, UH, RECEIVING THAT EDGE GRANT, THEN, UH, THE EDGE, UH, MONEY WILL COME FROM THE COUNTY AND REIMBURSE THE CITY, UH, FOR THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST FRONTING THE MONEY, UH, TO MOAT.
AND THEN WE WILL GET THE MONEY BACK FROM THE EDGE PROGRAM THROUGH THE COUNTY.
AND, UM, AND THEN, UM, IN THE ACCOUNTING DIVISION, UH, OF, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, WE ARE DOWN, UH, CURRENTLY TWO, UM, POSITIONS.
AND SO I AM RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, THOSE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN OPEN THOUSAND $610 AVAILABLE, UH, THAT I'VE, UH, UH, BEEN USING FOR, UH, TEMPORARY STAFFING SERVICES.
AND, UH, THAT'S FOR ONE FULL-TIME STAFF PERSON THAT'S BEEN ON, UH, HAND SINCE, UM, BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
AND I ANTICIPATE TO LAST THROUGH THE END OF APRIL.
I'M HOPING THAT, UH, THOSE TWO POSITIONS WILL BE FILLED BY THE END OF APRIL.
AND, UM, SO TO, UM, UH, BRIDGE THAT GAP, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, ONE INDIVIDUAL WILL BE ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD INVOLVE NO INCREASE IN THE OVERALL BUDGET, NO NET INCREASE TO THE BUDGET FOR THAT.
UM, THEN THERE'S ALSO A STREET SAFETY STUDY PROJECT, UH, $55,000, I BELIEVE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, UH, LATER IN THE MEETING.
AND, UM, ALSO $15,000 FOR THE ANNUAL STORM WATER REPORT AND ILLICIT DISCHARGE DETECTION AND ELIMINATION PLAN.
UH, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE 2023 BUDGET THAT WAS MISSED.
AND SO THAT $15,000 NEEDS TO BE ADDED AT THIS TIME.
UH, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THERE WERE TWO NEW ITEMS, UH, THAT HAVE COME UP JUST SINCE, UH, SINCE THE TIME THAT I PUT THIS OUT IN THE PACKET.
UH, ONE IS, UM, UH, WE HAD, UM, INADVERTENTLY CLOSED A 2022 PURCHASE ORDER THAT THE REMAINING BALANCE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT, UH, YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, UH, TAKING PART IN.
AND, UM, THERE'S $14,545 THAT IS LEFT ON THAT PLAN.
AND WE JUST RECEIVED THE FINAL INVOICE AND REALIZED THAT THAT PO WAS, UH, PURCHASE ORDER WAS CLOSED.
SO WE NEED TO THAT, SO THAT MONEY WENT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR IT TO BE, UM, UM, REBUDGETED HERE IN 2023.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED IN 22, AND, UH, THAT WENT BACK TO THE FUND.
AND THE LAST ITEM IS, UM, THERE IS A NEED IN THE, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION TO, UH, HAVE A, A VMAC HIGH DEFINITION MESSAGE BOARD.
AND THIS WOULD BE INFORMING THE RESIDENTS OF ROAD CLOSINGS AND OTHER INFORMATION, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT SEE ON THE, SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, UM, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS $16,850.
HOWEVER, UM, A TALK IN TALKING TO THE CITY ENGINEER, UM, THERE IS MONEY THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR BUDGET.
IT'S JUST IN THE ENGINEERING PART OF THE GAS TAX FUND.
SO I'M ASKING, UH, TO MOVE MONEY THAT, UH, THEY HAVE THAT, UM, THEY COULD ABSORB INTO THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS SECTION OF THE GAS TAX FUND.
WE'RE JUST MOVING IT FROM THE ENGINEERING SECTION TO THE PUBLIC WORKS SECTION.
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BE A NET, UH, NO NET INCREASE TO THE BUDGET.WE WOULD JUST BE MOVING IT FROM ONE ACCOUNT TO ANOTHER.
I HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S ONE DEPARTMENT GIVING MONEY TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT IS, UH, EVERYTHING I HAVE, I'D BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT I JUST, UH, LISTED.
JIM, TO BE CLEAR, THE, UM, MONEY BEING TRANSFERRED FOR THE MESSAGE BOARD, IT'S THE ENTIRE AMOUNT, THE 16,850 WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM, UM, ENGINEERING OVER TO, UH, TO COVER THE MESSAGE BOARD.
YES, IT GO RIGHT FROM ENGINEERING TO PUBLIC WORKS.
IT'S STILL ALL WITHIN THE GAS TAX FUND.
ANY OBJECTION? WE NEED SUPPLEMENTALS TO MONDAY.
AND, AND MAY ON MONDAY, SOMEBODY EXPENSE ARE RIGHT AWAY.
[ Advances/Transfers - Finance Department]
THREE F, WHICH IS ADVANCES IN TRANSFERS.UH, THAT'S ALSO WITH THE FINANCES DEPARTMENT.
SO JIM, DO YOU HAVE THIS? UH, YES, I CAN, UH, TALK ON THIS.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WAS IDENTIFIED, UM, UH, BY MYSELF AND OUR STAFF IN FINANCE THAT, UH, WE HAD DONE.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE, UM, UH, DONE CIB LOANS OVER THE YEARS, UH, STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOANS FOR, UH, SOME OF THE WORK OUT THERE AT CARRIAGE TRAILS, UH, SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE YEARS.
AND THERE WERE TWO INITIAL LOANS THAT WERE DONE IN, UH, 1920.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE WAS APPROVED IN 21, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
UM, BUT I DID NOT, UM, UM, GO THROUGH WITH THAT, THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK PEOPLE, BECAUSE, UM, THE FIRST TWO LOANS HAVE BEEN TAKING SUCH A LONG TIME TO USE THOSE FUNDS.
IN OTHER WORDS, UH, AS THE CARRIAGE TRAILS HAD DEVELOPED, AND THEY HAVE, THEY DRAW FUNDS, UH, FROM US, UM, THEY'RE TAKING LONGER THAN THE CEB LOAN PEOPLE PREFER.
THEY'D LIKE THOSE PROJECTS TO BE DONE 12, 18 MONTHS.
AND SO THEY WERE, UM, LITTLE, UH, UPSET THAT IT WAS TAKING SO LONG TO DO THOSE.
AND, AND EACH OF THOSE WERE LARGE, THOSE WERE OVER MILLION DOLLARS EACH CIB LOANS.
SO I HELD BACK AND, UM, AND WE IN THE MEANTIME HAD ADVANCED THE MONEY FROM THE GASOLINE TAX FUND TO THE CARRIAGE TRAILS FUND TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE, UH, UH, INSTEAD OF DOING THE LOAN, AND WHICH THE GAS TAX FUND IS WHAT PAYS FOR THOSE CEB LOANS TO BEGIN WITH, OVER, UH, 10 TO 15 YEAR PERIOD.
SO, UH, BASICALLY THIS ONE BEING SMALLER, BEING ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THE OTHER ONES WERE, UM, THE FUND, THE GAS TAX FUND WAS ABLE TO ABSORB THOSE EXPENSES.
AND WE, UM, SO WE HAVE TWO C LOANS, AND THEN THIS ONE WAS JUST, UM, IT WAS IN ADVANCE.
AND, UM, UNTIL WE GOT THE C LOAN MONEY, WE DIDN'T GO FOR THE C LOAN MONEY.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, CAN THIS JUST BE MADE BY COUNSEL, A PERMANENT TRANSFER FROM THE GAS TAX FUND TO PAY FOR THOSE EXPENSES? AND, UH, SO THAT WAY IT'LL ALL BE PAID AT ONCE AND IT WON'T BE PAID OUT OVER THE YEARS.
AND, UH, AND THE FUND CAN'T ABSORB THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? DO WE DO THAT SECOND READING WAIVED ON THAT, OR IS THAT, UM, UH, YOUR CHOICE? YOUR CHOICE? I PUT IT, I PUT IT ON AS A, UM, AS, UM, AN EMERGENCY.
BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO, UM, UM, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT AS AN EMERGENCY, IT COULD GO TO YOUR READINGS.
[ 2023 Annual Legislation - Amendment]
THREE G, WHICH IS, UH, 2023 ANNUAL LEGISLATION, WITNESS UNION AMENDMENT.UH, AS YOU, UM, REMEMBER BACK IN DECEMBER, WE PASSED ANNUAL LEGISLATION WHERE ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WERE ASKED TO, UM, TRY AND THINK OF ALL THE VENDORS THAT THEY USED THAT WOULD, UM, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS GO OVER THE $25,000, UH, PURCHASING LIMIT.
AND, UM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES THAT HAVE COME UP, UH, WITH, UM, EXPENSES THAT WE'VE SEEN OR, UM, PURCHASE ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OR NOT COUNCIL MEMBERS BY DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO, UH, SINCE THERE WAS MORE THAN JUST ONE OR TWO, WHERE WE WOULD NORMALLY COME BACK INDIVIDUALLY AND SAY, OKAY, THIS VENDOR, WE NEED TO GO OVER 25,000, THIS VENDOR, WE NEED TO GO OVER 25,000.
I TALKED TO BRIAN AND I SAID, CAN WE JUST BRING, I HAVE, UH, LIKE THREE OR FOUR CHANGES HERE.
CAN WE JUST BRING THEM ALL AND REVISE THAT AMENDED, UH, LEGISLATION? AND, UH, THAT WILL HELP US ALSO TO, UH, IF THIS IS APPROVED, THEN THIS WILL BE THE MODEL TO USE FOR THE END OF 23 FOR THE 24 EXPENSES.
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WAS ON THAT DECEMBER, UH, LEGISLATION, BUT AT THAT TIME IT WAS HER 20,000.AND, UM, THE, UH, PRICES HAVE GONE UP AND THE PERSONNEL HAS BEEN HIRED.
SO THAT NOW NEEDS TO BE, UM, UH, $30,000.
UM, AND THE STATE OF OHIO FOR POLICE LEADS, OBI TESTS, OPA TRAINING, UM, AND RADIO MAINTENANCE.
UH, WE'RE REQUESTING TO RECRUIT, INCREASE THAT FROM A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THAT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER TO 125,000.
UM, THERE ARE TWO VENDORS THAT WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS LIST, UM, ARE NO LONGER BEING USED.
UH, ONE OF THOSE IS NEW EGG AND ANOTHER ONE IS LOCATION.
SO WE'RE ASKING THOSE TO BE DELETED.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY, UH, A SAVINGS OF 68,000 BETWEEN THE TWO OF THOSE.
AND, UM, AND THEN, UM, THE, UH, IN THE, UM, UH, BRANDON FROM IT HAS ASKED THAT SHI INTERNATIONAL SOFTWARE, HE NEEDS TO, UM, HAVE THAT INCLUDED, AND THAT'S FOR $40,000 FOR CLOUD-BASED APPLICATIONS.
THAT'S A VENDOR THAT HE USES REGULARLY, SO THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT APPEAR ON FUTURE, UM, ANNUAL LEGISLATION.
AND, UM, AND THEN, UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE USING, UM, TEMPORARY STAFFING SERVICES, UM, IN, UH, MY DEPARTMENT FOR THE TAX SECTION AS WELL AS ACCOUNTING DIVISIONS.
AND, UH, ESTIMATE THE TOTAL COST OF THAT TO BE $95,000 BETWEEN, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO.
WE'RE USING TWO, UH, TEMPORARIES DOWN AT TAX AND ONE, UH, IN FINANCE, UH, HERE IN ACCOUNTING AT CITY HALL.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST ITEM, UM, YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS WAS ON THE LEGISLATION.
THERE'S TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION.
SO ONE IS FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE JUST FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
AND ON THE PUBLIC WORKS LEGISLATION, IT HAD GASOLINE AND IT HAD DIESEL FUEL FOR 400,000 AND 300,000.
BUT TO BE, UM, CLEAR ABOUT THIS, THAT WAS JUST PUBLIC WORKS DOLLARS.
AND WE REALLY NEED THAT GASOLINE AND DIESEL FUEL TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M RECOMMENDING THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS BEING MOVED TO THIS LEGISLATION.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY FOR PUBLIC WORKS VEHICLES, IT'S FOR POLICE VEHICLES, IT'S FOR FIRE VEHICLES, AND IT REALLY SHOULD SAY ALL DEPARTMENTS AND NOT JUST FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
SO THAT WAS, UH, IT'S A ANOTHER CLARIFICATION.
IT'S NOT ADDING TO THE TOTAL DOLLARS.
AS I, AS I SHOWED YOU HERE, THE NET FISCAL IMPACT OF APPROVING THESE IS, IS, UM, $5,000 IN TOTAL FROM WHAT WE APPROVED BACK IN DECEMBER.
GREAT EXPLANATION FOR ALL OF THOSE.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? OKAY, JIM SAYING, IS THIS, CAN THIS BE REGULAR LEGISLATION OR ARE YOU NEED A, A WAVING IN THE SECOND READING? THIS IS A RESOLUTION RESOLUTION, SO IT ONLY REQUIRES ONE READING.
NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE H, FIRE DIVISIONING STAFFING
[ Fire Division Staffing Update]
[ Request For Proposals – Mental Wellness Report – Fire Division]
UPDATE.UH, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND, UH, MR. SHAW, YOU WOULD TAKE ONE DOWN AND PASS IT AROUND.
UM, I'LL, UH, WAIT TIL THIS, UH, MOVES DOWN THE DIOCESE AND, UH, UH, PROVIDE SOME COMMENT, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
TROPH, THIS FINANCE DIRECTOR, MR. BELL IS FAMILIAR WITH THE, YOU BREAK IT U VIANT PHRASE,
UM, ALRIGHT, UH, MR. WEBB, DO YOU, UH, HAVE A COPY? FANTASTIC.
UH, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, COUNSEL, UH, AND WHAT WILL BE THE COMMUNITY WITH A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHERE WE ARE WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
SO YOU'LL NOW START TO SEE THIS AS PART OF YOUR PACKET, UH, AS THAT COMES OUT.
UH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE, UH, THESE VARIOUS BOXES ALONG THE WAY AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THE INTENT OF THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT IS TO DEMONSTRATE FOR YOU, UH, ALL OF THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT GO INTO, UH, HIRING PERSONNEL WITHIN, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE BEYOND OUR CONTROL.
THINGS LIKE WHEN A CANDIDATE CHOOSES TO SHOW UP AND PROVIDE THEIR FINGERPRINTS, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FINGERPRINTS TO COME BACK? UH, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE A DOCTOR TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DOCTOR'S SCHEDULE WITH REGARD TO PUTTING A PHYSICAL ON THE BOOKS? ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE LARGELY BEYOND OUR CONTROL.
SO WE ONLY HAVE A LIMITED SCOPE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO SAY WITH ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, DEFINITION.
THIS IS THE DATE THIS HAPPENED FOR ALL CANDIDATES.
THIS IS THE DATE ON WHICH THIS CANDIDATE WILL DO X OR B Y SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE AND HOW CANDIDATES ARE PROGRESSING.
WE'VE PUT THIS CHART TOGETHER.
UM, AT THE CURRENT, UH, WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES TODAY IS, UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE DECEMBER 9TH, 2022 ELIGIBILITY LIST.
THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES WHO ARE LEFT ON THAT LIST.
THOSE CANDIDATES MEET ZERO OF THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO BE ADVANCED
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IN THE PROCESS.AND, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, BECAUSE OF THE EBB AND FLOW OF PERSONNEL, WE ARE STILL TWO PERSONNEL SHORT OF THE 42 FULL COMPLIMENT.
AS SUCH, THE, UH, DECEMBER NINE LIST, UH, WILL NOW BE INVALIDATED BECAUSE OF THERE ARE ONLY TWO REMAINING CANDIDATES.
AND WE WILL NOW BEGIN A NEW PROCESS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S DATED JANUARY 3RD.
SO AS WE MOVE DOWN THE LINE, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE YOU VIA THIS BOX CHART SO THAT YOU CAN TRACK THAT INFORMATION.
UH, AND THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE ON HERE, UH, CANDIDATE FOUR FROM THE MAY 6TH, 2022 ELIGIBILITY.
THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL OFFER.
UH, AND ONCE THEY ARE ABLE TO, UH, CHECK THEIR FINAL BOX, WHICH IS THE PARAMEDIC CERT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A FIRM START DATE, AND WE WILL UPDATE AND PUT THAT INTO THE SHEET WHEN WE HAVE IT.
AS IS CANDIDATE 11, UH, YOU'LL NOTE THEY'RE MISSING, UH, THEIR, UH, PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION, THEIR PHYSICAL, UH, AND, UH, HAVE YET TO COMPLETE THEIR, UH, PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST.
SO ONCE THOSE THREE CONDITIONS ARE MET, UH, WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A SPECIFIC HIRING DATE, AND THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THIS TABLE.
SO, UH, FOR THE REQUEST OF COUNSEL, UH, WE'VE PUT THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER AND YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THIS PART OF THE PACKET.
UH, AND, UH, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT WE KNOW WHEN WE KNOW IT.
NOW, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE.
ANY QUESTIONS, ED? YEAH, SO CHIEF, THE, I THINK THE LAST MEETING YOU SPOKE, YOU WERE HOPING TO HAVE FOR HIRED IN A MONTH.
OKAY, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN NOW.
UM, SO YES, THAT IS CORRECT, MR. LYONS.
OH, YOU'RE TAKING THE QUESTIONS.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO, UM, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO, UH, ENSURE ALL OF THE CANDIDATES THAT WE OFFERED ACCEPTED THOSE OFFERS.
SO AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE LAST HERE BEFORE COUNSEL, UH, WE HAD EXTENDED OFFERS TO SEVERAL MEMBERS, SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WERE ELIGIBLE, AND A FEW OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE DECIDED TO JOIN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO THEY DECLINED OUR CONDITIONAL OFFER AND ACCEPTED OFFERS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
AND BRIAN, THE 42 POSITIONS, UM, IS IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, FOR 2023, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND COUNCIL VOTED ON THAT, UM, LAST DECEMBER.
AND THEN, UH, BEFORE THAT WE HAD, UH, 42 POSITIONS VOTED ON.
WAS THAT, UM, BACK IN AUGUST TO FUND IT IN THE 2022 BUDGET YEAR? I, I'D, I'D HAVE TO LOOK, SIR.
TONY, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT MONTH? WAS IT AUGUST? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MONTH, BUT IT, IT'S APPROXIMATE TO THE LATE SUMMER OR FALL.
UH, MARK CAMPBELL, WE HAD AN AGREEMENT, UH, IN THE 2222 BUDGET FOR 42 FIREFIGHTERS TO GET 'EM HIRED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE QUALIFIED, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, IS THIS WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND WHEN WE PASSED THAT EIGHT OH, ON THE DIAS IT, IT, IT WAS NOT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT? NO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DON? BRIAN? JUST, UM, I'M SORRY, BRIAN, LOOKING AT YOUR SPREADSHEET, WHICH IS, UM, VERY CLARIFIED BY THE WAY.
SO IF I'M READING THE DECEMBER 9TH ELIG ELIGIBILITY LIST, RIGHT? I HAVE SEVEN OUT OF 12 THAT, UH, EITHER WITHDREW OR, UM, NO RESPONSE? THAT IS CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BRIAN? I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE THE CHIEF PUTTING ON THIS JUST TO HELP US GET SOME, SOME CLARIFICATION AND UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS OF HIRING SOMEBODY ISN'T JUST YOU.
HEY, DO YOU WANNA COME WORK FOR US AND SIGN HERE? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.
UM, AND I THINK THIS JUST KIND OF LAYS IT OUT.
AND HAVING THIS AS PART OF THE PACKET ONGOING IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE PUBLICLY.
IT'S ALL PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.
WE CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THE ATTEMPTS THAT WE'RE MAKING TO, TO FULLY STAFF THE 42 FIREFIGHTERS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE BUDGET.
UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE CLARITY AND, AND THANKS FOR THE WORK AND SPREADSHEET TOGETHER.
I'LL, UH, I'LL PASS YOUR COMPLIMENTS ON TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
HOW MANY, UH, POSITIONS DO WE HAVE FILLED CURRENTLY? SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE, UH, 38 WHEN WE HAVE THE TWO OFFERS PENDING.
UH, SO THAT AS SOON AS THOSE INDIVIDUALS MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THEY'D BE BROUGHT ON.
SO THOSE ARE, WOULD BE 40 OF THE 42, AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAD WITHDREW OR WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCE WAS, THAT'S NEARING ABOUT 65 TO 70% OF THE, UH, APPLICANTS INITIALLY? CORRECT.
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YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BETTER QUESTION IS TONIGHT TO ASK NOT TO HAVE, BUT, BUT TONIGHT IS WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE HAVE A 60 PLUS PERCENT RATE OF CANDIDATES DROPPING OUT OF THE PROCESS OR THE PROGRAM.LACK THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T GO THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND BECOME HIRED.
SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS YOU PROGRESS AND, AND CONTINUE TO SEND THESE OUT, YOU COULD HELP US WITH WHAT IDEAS ARE BEING DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT, NOT ONLY HERE AT UBER HEIGHTS, BUT THAT'S GOTTA BE A PROBLEM REGIONALLY.
WELL, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE ARE, THERE ARE NOT AS MANY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE A FIREFIGHTER TODAY, AS THERE WERE, SAY, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING NINE 11.
AND WHILE THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE FIREFIGHTERS, AND WHILE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY POSSESS THE APTITUDE TO BE A FIREFIGHTER, NOT ALL CANDIDATES POSSESS THE QU THE QUALITIES THAT WE WANT IN OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
SO IF COUNCIL'S OBJECTIVE, UM, IS TO HAVE 42 FIREFIGHTERS, WE CAN BEGIN TO OVERLOOK PAST BEHAVIORS THAT MIGHT BE QUESTIONABLE.
WE CAN OVERLOOK MAYBE POOR JUDGEMENTS OF YOUTH.
UM, AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT WITH REGARD TO, UM, THESE CANDIDATES.
SO THESE AREN'T ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT TO, WE JUST DON'T OFFER THE, THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY, OR WE JUST DON'T PROVIDE THE BEST QUALITY PACKAGE.
THESE ARE CAN, SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE CANDIDATES WHO WE'VE LOOKED AT AND EVALUATED, AND WE'VE FOUND SOME THINGS AND, AND MAYBE THEY'RE BACKGROUND THAT DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT WHO WE WANT IN OUR, IN OUR DEPARTMENT, WHO WE WANT TO REFLECT THIS CITY.
AND SO WE SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH THESE CANDIDATES, AND WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITHDRAW FROM THE PROCESS, UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE FIND.
SO THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE ABOUT CAN WE FIND QUALIFIED CANDIDATES? IF THE QUALIFICATION IS, CAN THEY PHYSICALLY DO THE JOB AND CAN THEY PHYSICALLY PASS THE TEST? WE CAN FIND LOTS OF THOSE PEOPLE.
THE ISSUE IS, ARE WE FINDING THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT, UH, THE TYPES OF PERSONALITIES, THE TYPE OF WORK ETHICS, THE TYPE OF DECISION MAKING THAT YOU WANT FROM A PERSON WHO'S GOING TO BE MAKING LIFE OR DEATH SITUATIONS IN A SITUATION OF STRESS? WELL, MAYBE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO, TO EXPERIENCE LIFE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR CAREER PATH TO MR. CAMPBELL.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, UH, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'VE ASKED IT BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE THINGS AREN'T BECAUSE, UH, WE CAN'T DRAW QUALIFIED CANDIDATES, UH, RESPONSES BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE EXPECT THE BEST QUALIFIED CANDIDATES THAT WE CAN FIND.
AND AND THAT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, UH, DOING THE PHYSICAL WORK.
AND, AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE SEE SOME OF THESE, UH, WITHDRAWAL NUMBERS OR THESE, UH, UM, NO RESPONSE NUMBERS, UH, AS, AS PART OF THESE, UM, THESE HIRING PROCESSES.
SO, SO BRIAN, WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT IS A POLICY.
IS THAT POLICY SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR QUITE A WHILE IN OUR, OUR CITY? UH, YES, SIR.
AND WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS, WE HAVE PERSONNEL, UM, PERSONAL CONDUCT STANDARDS THAT WE EMPLOY FOR ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY EMPLOYEES.
THIS ISN'T JUST WITH RESPECT TO, UH, TO THE FIRE.
AND WE CONSIDER, UM, OTHER CONDITIONS WHEN WE LOOK TO EMPLOY OTHER KEY POSITIONS, SUCH AS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT OR IN THE TAX DIVISION.
SO AGAIN, UM, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING AND EVALUATING, UH, AND SCREENING FOR ALL OF OUR CANDIDATES, UM, IS NOT JUST AN INABILITY, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE, NOT THE TECHNICAL ABILITIES.
IT IS THE PERSON WE ARE HIRING AS A WHOLE TO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY.
AND ARE THESE POLICIES, POLICIES THAT WE'RE ADOPTED BY THIS COUNCIL, BUT CITY COUNCIL? UH, THESE ARE, UM, STANDARDS THAT ARE SET.
UM, THEY HAVE BEEN SET PREVIOUSLY PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL, BUT THESE ARE, ARE, UH, SET WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PURVIEWS OF THE, OF THE MANAGER AND OF, OF CITY LEADERSHIP STAFF LEADERSHIP.
SO, UH, WERE WE LOOKING AT MAY AS THE NEXT POOL THEN AGAIN, OR? WELL, UM, HOW DOES, HOW'S THIS WORK FROM HERE OUT? YEAH, SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, UM, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER, WE'LL UPDATE IN THE NEXT TABLE
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ONCE THE TESTING DATES AND THOSE THINGS GET SET, WE'LL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, AND THAT'LL BE THEN BECOME WHAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE THE ELIGIBILITY LIST OF, RIGHT? SO THAT'LL BECOME THE NEW, AND THEN THESE BOXES WILL GET FILLED IN AS YOU SEE THESE FORMS EVERY TWO WEEKS AS VARIOUS CANDIDATES ARE ADVANCED IN THE PROCESS OR AS VARIOUS CANDIDATES WITHDRAW FROM THE PROCESS.SO WE, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO, PROVIDE THIS DOCUMENT UNTIL COUNCIL'S SATISFIED WITH OUR EFFORTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE IS A NATURAL EBB AND FLOW TO EMPLOYMENT.
SO THERE ARE GONNA BE TIMES WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE AT 42, AND WE MIGHT BE AT 42 FOR TWO WEEKS.
WE MIGHT BE AT 42 FOR TWO DAYS.
WE MIGHT BE AT 42 FOR TWO YEARS.
BUT PEOPLE MOVE, PEOPLE TAKE DIFFERENT JOBS, PEOPLE RETIRE, PEOPLE GET HURT.
AND THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO GET TO AND SUSTAIN THE TOTAL EMPLOYMENT NUMBER OF 42.
IT AFFECTS ALL DEPARTMENTS AND ALL DIVISIONS OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
SO, BUT WHAT I WAS SAYING IS, DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT THERE'S LIKE TWO TIME PERIODS IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE CHART THAT WE REALLY GET OUR CANDIDATES FROM, AND YES.
SO THEY'RE OUR, UH, CHIEF, CAN YOU TOUCH ON THE, THE, UH, YEAH.
THERE'S ACADEMY PROGRAMS A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE.
THEY HAVE THEIR JOBS AND THEY'RE CERTIFIED, THEY'RE IN THEIR JOBS.
ONE OF OUR BIG TIMES IS WHEN THE PARAMEDIC CLASSES GRADUATE, MOST TIMES THERE'S, UH, SINCLAIR GRADUATES THEIR STUDENTS AROUND DECEMBER.
SO, UH, A FEW OF THE CANDIDATES THAT WE JUST HIRED GOT THEIR PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION AT THE VERY END OF DECEMBER, AND THEY ARE NOW OUT ON THE STREET DELIVERING SERVICE.
AND THEN THERE'S AN OTHER SCHOOLS THAT GRADUATE IN THE SPRING.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THOSE ARE, UH, THOSE ARE THE, THE, THE PEAK TIMES, UH, THAT WE WOULD GET THE CANDIDATES BECAUSE THEY'RE GRADUATING NEWLY CERTIFIED AND, UH, LOOKING FOR JOBS.
ANYTHING ELSE, RICHARD? THANK YOU.
UM, I WANT TO KIND OF CONTINUE COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL'S, UH, QUESTIONING.
UM, AND FROM WHAT THE CHIEF JUST SAID, IT, IT APPEARS, UM, AND, AND, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THIS CONVERSATION OFFLINE, BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, THIS MAY 6TH ELIGIBILITY LIST, WHEN WE HAVE A 75, UH, PERCENT, UM, AND COULD BE ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, UH, SUCCESS RATE OUT OF THAT LIST.
AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, DECEMBER AND, UM, HOPING IF, UH, CANDIDATE 11 CONTINUES, WE'RE GONNA BE AT 25%.
UM, IS THAT BECAUSE AS THE CHIEF HAD MENTIONED, IT'S THE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE PULLING FROM? IS IT THE TIME, IS IT THE CANDIDATES? BECAUSE WHEN I, ADDITIONALLY, WHEN I LOOK ON THE DECEMBER 9TH HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CANDIDATE ONE THAT WITHDREW, BUT THERE WAS NO BACKGROUND CHECK.
UM, WE HAVE CANDIDATE FIVE THAT WITHDREW.
HE DID HAVE A DAY, HAD A BACKGROUND CHECK, UM, CANDIDATE SEVEN WITHDREW.
THERE WAS NO BACKGROUND CHECK.
SO I, I GUESS, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, IF THIS HAS TO BE AN OFFLINE CONVERSATION, I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I GUESS I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ON WHY THE MAY 6TH WAS SO SUCCESSFUL AND DECEMBER 9TH THAT HAD ALMOST TRIPLED THE AMOUNT OF CANDIDATES.
UM, WE JUST COMPLETELY, UM, MISSED SOMETHING THERE.
SO, OR, OR THEY, THE CANDIDATES MISSED SOMETHING THERE.
SO THE, THE MAY 6TH ELIGIBILITY LIST WAS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WE HAD TO PICK A POINT IN TIME TO START OUR LIST AND MEASUREMENT FROM, WE PICKED JANUARY 1ST, 2023.
THE MAY 6TH ELIGIBILITY LIST EXISTED PRIOR TO THAT WITH SEVERAL OTHER CANDIDATES, SEVERAL OF WHOM WERE HIRED, SEVERAL OF WHOM WITHDREW, SEVERAL OF WHOM WERE NOT RESPONSIVE.
BUT SINCE WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR, STARTING OUR MEASUREMENT MARK AS JANUARY ONE, THOSE EMPLOYEES OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO STARTED ON OR AFTER JANUARY ONE, THIS FIRST BATCH, WERE ALL PULLED FROM THAT MAY 6TH LIST.
SO THAT MAY 6TH LIST MAY HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, 20 PEOPLE ON IT, AND WE HIRED SEVEN OFF OF THAT, AND THE BALANCE WITHDREW OR DIDN'T RESPOND, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.
BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF HAVING TO HAVE A PLACE TO START TO BEGIN THE CONVERSATION, WE STARTED WITH WHO WE HIRED AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2023.
I, I JUST, UH, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT HERE IN BLACK AND WHITE, THAT I KIND OF SEEN A BIT SKEWED.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I, I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
UM, BUT THE START DATE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE DOES MAKE SENSE.
UM, IT JUST DOESN'T TELL US OUTTA THAT MAY 6TH, HOW MANY TOTAL WHO WENT THROUGH AND FOR WHAT REASONS.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS DECEMBER 9TH LIST, I, YOU KNOW, AND
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AGAIN, I, I'M, I'M HOPING IT'S NOT A, A, A PLACE OF WHERE WE'RE GETTING OUR LIST, UM, OR THE AMOUNT, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE FULL NUMBERS OF MAY OR EVEN PREVIOUS TIMES, UM, BUT, UM, I, I GUESS CONTINUING ON COUNCIL CAMPBELL'S, UH, CONVERSATION, UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE JUST NOT ACCESSIBLE CANDIDATES OF OUT THERE, PERIOD.UM, IS IT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK INTERNALLY? UM, IS IT A COMBINATION OF BOTH? IS IT THE EDUCATION? IS IT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK I HEARD SOMETHING ON THE NEWS THAT SOME MILLENNIALS JUST, WELL, THEY'RE NOT CARING ABOUT JOB HOPPING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO IS IT A, IS IT A HUGE TRIFECTA THAT WE'RE JUST NOT USED TO IN THE JOB MARKET THAT EVERY EMPLOYER IS DEALING WITH? UM, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST GENERATION, IF YOU WILL, AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROFESSIONALLY.
UH, THE CHIEFS, THEY TALK ABOUT IT AT THEIR CONFERENCES.
WE TALK ABOUT IT AT OUR CONFERENCES.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST GENERATION THAT WASN'T PHYSICALLY ON THE PLANET WITH A MEMORY OF NINE 11 MM-HMM.
AND THAT VALUE, YOU KNOW, THAT INCIDENT HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON PUSHING PEOPLE INTO PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND SO, WHAT PUSHED US TO HAVE MORE CANDIDATES THAN WE MORE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES THAN WE, WE COULD POSSIBLY SHAKE A STICK AT, UM, ISN'T THE MOTIVATOR OF TODAY'S, YOU KNOW, ISN'T THE MOTIVATOR OF TODAY'S WORKFORCE.
SO WE ARE SEEING THIS AT ALL LEVELS, UM, WITHIN PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN A GENERAL SENSE, WE HAVE A LABOR SHORTAGE IN, IN A VARIETY OF POSITIONS.
WE CONTINUE TO SEE IT AT, AT PUBLIC SERVICE.
WE SEE IT IN ADMINISTRATION, WE SEE IT AT, AT ALL LEVELS OF OUR ORGANIZATION AND OTHER COMMUNITIES STATEWIDE, NATIONWIDE, ARE HAVING THESE ISSUES.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WORKFORCE OF, TO THE YOUNGER WORKFORCE OF TODAY, I SHOULD SAY, I, I GUESS THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN QUALIFY IT IS THEY HAVEN'T REALLY GIVEN THOUGHT ABOUT TODAY'S CONDUCT TO THE FUTURE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AT 19 YEARS OLD, AT 20 YEARS OLD, WHILE THEY'RE IN COLLEGE OR WHILE THEY'RE FINISHING THEIR HIGH SCHOOL CAREER, MAYBE THEY MAKE SOME DECISIONS THAT THEY'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCE.
THOSE AREN'T END OF THE WORLD DECISIONS.
BUT QUITE FRANKLY, SOMEBODY WHO ADMITS IN THEIR BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION THAT WITHIN THE LAST 12 MONTHS THEY'VE RECREATIONALLY USED A DRUGS, IS THAT SOMEONE THAT YOU WANNA PUT IN AN AMBULANCE REPRESENTING OUR CITY WITH ACCESS TO CLASS ONE NARCOTICS? NOW, IF YOU DO, WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THOSE RED XES TO GREEN TBDS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT CITY COUNCIL WANTS REPRESENTING THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT THE CHIEF AND I WANT REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE WOULD RATHER SIT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ABOUT, WE'RE NOT QUITE TO 42, OR WE'RE NOT, WE WERE TO 42, BUT NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 39 BECAUSE WE'RE HIRING PEOPLE WHO MEET OUR EXPECTATIONS AND PRESENT THEMSELVES AS A COMMUNITY THE WAY THAT WE THINK THIS GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE JUST NOT SEEING THE HIGHER RATES, THE CANDIDATE POOL, THE SIZE OF THE POOLS JUST DON'T EXIST.
AND THAT'S NOT JUST FOR US, THAT'S FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOOLISHNESS OF YOUTH, UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE FOR CERTAIN BEHAVIORS, AND MAYBE THAT WAS THE TIME AND THE PLACE FOR BEHAVIOR EARLY ON IN COLLEGE OR LATE IN HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT IF IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO YOUR HIRING APPLICATION DEADLINE WITH THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, IT'S NOT GONNA HELP YOU GET EMPLOYED HERE ANYTIME SOON.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE FIND OURSELVES, WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES.
AND SO I, UM, I, I THINK THAT, UH, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED WE'RE AIRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION, UM, AND, AND PROFESSIONALISM HERE.
AND I THINK THAT, THAT THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO BE.
SO, UH, ARE WE GONNA SOMETIMES STRUGGLE TO GET TO 42? WE ARE, BUT, UH, WHEN WE GET TO 42, THEY'RE GONNA BE THE BEST, BEST M 42 FIREFIGHTERS IN THE REGION, AT LEAST IF WE HAVE OURAY ABOUT IT.
SO, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE THIS LIST AS WE GO.
MARION IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS GONNA REMAIN A PERMANENT AGENDA ITEM UNTIL WE REACH THAT 42 NUMBER.
I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THIS, BUT HOW MANY DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT MIGHT RETIRE THIS YEAR? THIS YEAR WE HAVE, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY PLANS FOR RETIREMENT.
WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE IN THE DEFERRED RETIREMENT OPTION, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO LEAVE IN EIGHT YEARS, UP TO EIGHT YEARS.
AND, BUT THEY CAN LEAVE AT ANY TIME.
AND ONCE YOU GET FIVE YEARS INTO DEFERRED RETIREMENT,
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UH, THERE'S, THERE'S BENEFIT TO STAYING, BUT THERE'S ALSO, IT'S NOT A TERRIBLE TIME TO LEAVE AT THOSE POINTS IN TIME.AND BRIAN, IF I, IF I MAY, I HAPPEN TO PULL UP THE FIRST HIRING PROCESS THAT I CONDUCTED IN 2011, AND WE HAD 101 CANDIDATES THAT PUT 'EM FOR THE JOB.
PEOPLE IN THIS AREA THAT HAD A FIREFIGHTER CARD, A PARAMEDIC CARD, OR THEY HAD ONE CARD, AND THEY WERE IN TRAINING.
AND LOOKING AT THIS LIST, THERE IS A FIRE CHIEF OF AN EQUALLY SIZED COMMUNITY ON OUR LIST FROM THAT TIME.
UH, A COUPLE OF OUR LIEUTENANTS ARE ON THIS LIST.
UH, DISTRICT CHIEF OF THE CITY OF DAYTON WAS ON THIS LIST, SEVERAL NAMES.
SO THE DYNAMICS HAVE REALLY CHANGED, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU GUYS SUPPORT US AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, BRIAN ASKED ME ALL THE TIME OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND, AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IT.
BUT THAT HUNTER AND ONE IN 2011, THAT'S, NOBODY SEES THOSE KIND OF CANDIDATES ANYMORE.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY, THANK YOU.
AND NEXT SAYS ITEM THREE, I REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM MENTAL WELLNESS REPORT, AND THIS IS ALSO WITH THE FIRE DIVISION.
SO CHIEF, YOU WOULD, CHIEF
THIS, UH, WELLNESS RFP IS A REQUIREMENT IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
UH, THIS, UH, PROJECT WAS FUNDED BY, UH, UH, AN ARPA GRANT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE 700 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE OBTAIN TO HIRE PERSONNEL AND, UH, CONDUCT.
UH, ONE IS HIRING A, UH, WELLNESS COORDINATOR, UH, MEDICAL DIRECTOR WHO IS A PHYSICIAN.
SO WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES IN THE AREA TO HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYED, UH, PHYSICIAN.
UM, AND, UH, HE'S KIND OF LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS.
UH, HE'S WORKING PRIMARILY ON THE PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL SIDE OF THINGS, UH, BUT HE WILL ALSO BE COORDINATING WITH A, UH, WITH A FUTURE CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTHCARE NEEDS FOR THE FIRE DIVISION.
UH, REALLY BRIEFLY, UH, WOULD INVOLVE A, UH, THE STATE REQUIRED US, EVERYBODY IN THE FIRE DIVISION WILL MEET WITH A THERAPIST FOR, UH, FOR SO MUCH TIME EVERY YEAR.
UH, THERE WILL BE SOME MONITORING THAT WILL GO ON WITH, UH, VARIOUS PEER FITNESS TRAINERS OR, UH, OR DR.
MCINTOSH, UH, TO WHERE THEY WILL ACTUALLY MEET WITH OUR COMMAND STAFF AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, RUSS SEEMS TO BE HAVING AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
CAN WE, UH, CAN WE SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HIM? UH, WE HAVE, UH, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, WE HAVE PHYSICAL TRAINERS, UH, UH, SPORTS TRAINERS FROM PREMIER THAT ARE IN OUR FIREHOUSES EVERY WEEK, AND THEY'RE DOING FOR THE BODY WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THESE PEOPLE WILL BE DOING FOR OUR MIND, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND SOMEBODY'S GOT A SORE MUSCLE, THEY WORK OUT SOME THINGS, GIVE 'EM SOME EXERCISES.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE.
UH, LIKE I SAID, THE STATE OF OHIO WILL BE SPENDING $50,000 OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS, OR WHAT WE ESTIMATED, UH, $50,000.
SO THAT REQUIRES US TO, UH, DO THIS RFP.
THE RFP HAS BEEN APPROVED BY OUR GRANT ADVISOR WITH THE STATE OF OHIO BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU TO, TO BE ABLE TO SOLICIT, UH, BIDS.
UH, THEY HAVE, UH, SOME VERY SELECT THINGS.
UH, IF WE DO NOT RECEIVE THREE BIDS, WE HAVE TO SEND IT BACK OUT AND GET THREE BIDS.
UH, THEY'RE VERY INSISTENT ON THE, UH, IDEA OF HAVING THREE BIDS.
UH, WE KNOW OF, UH, TWO PROVIDERS ALREADY THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BID ON IT IN THE AREA, AND WE'RE PRETTY SURE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND A, UH, A THIRD PERSON TO, TO BID ON THIS.
BUT THIS PROJECT WILL BE PAID FOR BY, UH, THE GRANT FROM THE STATE OF OHIO.
ANY QUESTIONS, DON? THANKS, CHIEF.
IS THIS A, UH, A SINGLE, UH, ENTITY, SOLE PERSON THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, OR IS THIS ACTUALLY GONNA BE LIKE A, UM, A MEDICAL FACILITY THAT WILL SUPPLY A PERSON? YEAH, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST GROUPS WE TALKED TO, UH, KETTERING HEALTH NETWORK IS DOING A BIG PUSH WITH PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL.
UH, BUT WE ALSO FOUND OUT OUR, UH, OUR PROVIDER OF, UH, PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS DOES THE SAME THING.
SO IT WILL BE A, IT WILL BE A PROVIDER OF SORTS, WHETHER IT'S A LARGE HOSPITAL NETWORK OR ANOTHER GROUP.
IT WILL NOT BE A SINGLE PERSON PROVIDER.
UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, UH, THE AVAILABILITY FOR 24 7 RESPONSES.
SO IF WE ANTICIPATE THIS BEING MORE THAN YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON.
THIS SEEMS LIKE A WONDERFUL IDEA.
UM, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THE FUNDING, OF COURSE, IT'S ARPA IS ONLY THROUGH 2024.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? IT'S GREAT TO START A PROGRAM, BUT YOU DON'T WANT IT TO DIE IN, IN TWO YEARS.
WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE DISCUSSIONS ON, UH, LIKE WITH OUR PHYSICIAN, HOW WE CAN
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START CONTINUING DOWN A PATH.AND I HAVE SOME DIRECTION THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN TO TRY TO SEE HOW WE CAN MONETIZE, UH, ENTERPRISE SOME THINGS.
UH, THIS ONE HERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME BUDGETARY ITEMS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, UH, SOME PRETTY SPECIALIZED, UH, SPECIALIZED THINGS.
AND, UM, WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING LIKE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO FOR TWO YEARS AND, AND ABANDON.
ANYTHING ELSE, RICHARD? THANK YOU.
UH, CHIEF, I JUST, UH, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING US IN FRONT OF US, ESPECIALLY FROM OUR CONVERSATION AND APRIL AND MAY OF LAST YEAR OF FIREFIGHTER FATIGUE AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY TIMELY ITEM.
I'M GLAD THE GOVERNOR WAS ABLE TO, AND IS CONTINUING TO, FOR MANY JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE STATE TO MAKE THIS AVAILABLE.
UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT, UH, COMMUNITIES, UH, NOT ONLY JUST IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, BUT IN THE STATE, UM, DO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT HOW THEY CAN EXTEND THESE PROGRAMS, UH, TO, TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT IS, UH, UH, DEFINITELY WARRANTED AND NEEDED AND, AND IN OUR TIME.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR LOOKING FORWARD, UH, NOT ONLY TO, UH, TO YOUR CREW, BUT, UH, TO OTHERS ON HOW WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OBJECTION TO MONDAY? OKAY.
[ Water Infrastructure Update]
WE BEGIN TO, UH, ITEM THREE J, THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE.IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND, HONOR, TAKE ONE DOWN, PASS IT AROUND.
SO, UH, SIMILAR TO, UH, THE, UH, FIRE STATUS, WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS TO BRING TOGETHER A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF, UH, WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, IN THE TIMEFRAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE, UM, WITH, UH, THE DELAYED START, UH, THAT WE HAD, UH, LAST YEAR WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD, UH, BUDGETED FOR LINING, AND THEN WE TRANSITIONED TO, UH, FULL REPLACEMENT, AND THEN WE, THAT PUT US BEHIND BECAUSE OF ENGINEERING, AND THEN WE WOUND UP RUNNING INTO, UM, THE, UH, DELIVERY TIMES, THE LAGS ON DELIVERY TIMES RELATIVE TO, UH, PIPE.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS, UH, PUT THIS CHART TOGETHER, UH, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THE, UH, PROJECT TITLES THAT YOU'VE HEARD US REFER TO MARDI GRAS 2022 AND 2023 REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.
UH, THOSE ARE TITLED AT THE TOP AS WELL AS THE STREETS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.
AND THEN FOLLOWING, UH, AS YOU GO DOWN THAT CHART AS YOU'RE COMING, UM, FROM THE TOP OF THE PAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE OF THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT ENGINEERING HAS TO ACCOMPLISH IN ORDER FOR THESE PROJECTS TO BEGIN.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE, UM, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, BOTH THE MARDI GRAS AND THE 2022, UH, WE'RE GETTING READY TO BREAK GROUND ON, UH, THOSE PROJECTS HERE WITHIN THE NEXT, UH, 30 DAYS.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ON THE 2023 PROJECT, UH, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF WAYS TO GO.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THIS, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, WORK SESSION PACKETS SO THAT YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THESE VARIOUS ITEMS. UH, SHOULD ANY OF THESE DATES SLIP, THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.
AND, UH, IF, UH, YOU'D LIKE AN EXPLANATION FOR WHATEVER THOSE VARIOUS, UH, CHANGES MIGHT BE TO DATES, UH, THE ENGINEER OR I WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE TO YOU.
SO, UH, IN PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S REQUEST, WE THOUGHT THAT, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO KEEP YOU AND THE COMMUNITY INFORMED OF, UH, HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING ON, UH, THESE PARTICULAR MATTERS.
SO, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT IS THE DATE? THE, UM, COMPANY THAT DID THE WATER STUDY IS COMING? THE, UH, CURRENT, UH, APPROACH, OR THE CURRENT PLAN IS THAT THERE WILL BE A, WE'LL CALL IT AN INITIAL PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL WORK SESSION, UH, TO GIVE A MORE DETAILED OVERVIEW OF THE, UM, OF THE STUDY.
THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, COUNSEL AND ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WHO'S INTERESTED IN THE ISSUE OF WATER MAIN TO KIND OF HEAR, UM, THE FINDINGS OF THE STUDY IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT.
THIS IS KIND OF THE PREP YOUR QUESTIONS EVENT, IF YOU WILL.
UM, THEN, UM, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR, UH, WE'LL THEN SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING IN MARCH, WHICH WAS THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL.
UM, BURGESS AND NIEL WHO CONDUCTED THE STUDY WILL THEN COME BACK TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER, UH, AND THEY'LL BE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE.
ANYBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO'S HERE TO EN EN ENGAGE, UH, THAT REPRESENTATIVE.
UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, UH, THOSE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AS WELL.
AND THEN STAFF WILL GIVE AN INITIAL PRESENTATION ON, UH, WHAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AS, UH, OUR POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO ADDRESS, UH, TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
SO THAT'S THE PLAN, UH, THAT'S THE WORKING PLAN GOING FORWARD BASED ON MY LAST CONVERSATION, UH, WITH THE MAYOR AND THE CLERK, UH, TO TRY AND ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE CONCERNS FROM COUNSEL.
SO THE 23RD IS WHEN THE INITIAL PRESENTATION IS? YEAH, CORRECT.
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FIRST? THE 21ST, YES.SO SIMILAR TO, SIMILAR TO TONIGHT ON THE SEWER SIDE, IT WOULD BE KIND OF AN INFORMATION DUMP TO COUNSEL SO THAT YOU COULD, UH, PROCESS THAT AND, AND PUT TOGETHER, UH, WHATEVER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND OF COURSE, IF WE COULD GET THIS IN ADVANCE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, TO THE PRESENTER WHEN THEY COME BACK IN MARCH.
ANYTHING ELSE, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, BRIAN IS MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS A, UH, ALSO WILL BE A STANDING AGENDA ITEM MOVING FORWARD ON THE WORK SESSION, UH, WITH THIS CHART.
UM, WOULD, UH, WOULD THIS ALSO BE ABLE TO BE UPDATED WITH, UM, WITH, UH, WATER MAIN BREAK INFORMATION, UH, THROUGHOUT? I KNOW WE ARE GETTING THAT INFORMATION, UH, VIA OUR EMAIL.
UM, BUT I, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE, UH, PERTINENT INFORMATION TO BE INCLUDED IN, UH, IN THIS REPORT AS WELL, OF HER RESIDENCE.
THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS, UM, UH, WITHIN THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, UM, I, I NOW HAVE BEEN, UH, RECEIVING REPORTS WITHIN, UH, MY WARD OF A SERIOUS WATER MAIN BREAKS, UM, OF WHICH, UM, UH, OVER, UH, 25 TO 30 ACCOUNTS HAVE HAD BOIL ADVISORIES ATTACHED TO THEM.
UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT, UH, I'M NOT SAYING THAT, UH, WE ARE IN A DIRE SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO, UH, LOOK AT A CITYWIDE ISSUE, CUZ WELL, WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE A CITYWIDE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
UM, HOWEVER, NOW IT'S ON MY RADAR, UM, A HARDCORE, BECAUSE I'M GETTING PHONE CALLS ABOUT IT, IT'S NOW HAPPENING IN MY BACKYARD, IT'S NOW AFFECTING MY RESIDENCE.
UM, SO, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T CONSIDER THESE ISSUES JUST WARD FOUR ISSUES ANY LONGER.
UM, NOR DO I THINK ANYBODY ON COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE WATER ISSUES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WITH OUR RAPID GROWTH, ESPECIALLY IN WARD ONE AND THE UPCOMING, UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M HOPING, UH, BURGESS AND NIEL IS, UH, LOOKING TO, UM, REVIEW AND THAT I HOPE THIS COUNCIL TAKES UNDER SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND, AND ADDITIONALLY, HOPEFULLY THE, UH, CONVERSATION THAT OCCURRED ON THIS DIOCESE IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, UH, WAS JUST NOT, UH, FOR EAR SHOTS THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING CHANGES IN THIS COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO WATER.
UM, AND I'M HOPING THAT AS WE GET THESE REPORTS, AS WE HAVE THE COMMUNICATION, UM, UM, THROUGH OUR, UH, WATER DEPARTMENT AND WE SEE THAT THOSE WATER MAIN BREAKS ARE EITHER LEVELING OUT OR IF THEY'RE INCREASING, UM, I THINK THOSE ARE CONSTANT NUMBERS AS COUNSEL NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR EYE ON.
IS IT BE, BE AN ISSUE TO ADD AT A BREAK REPORT ON, ON THIS? UH, IF, IF I COULD BEG JUST A, A BRIEF 30 DAY INDULGENCE FROM COUNSEL ON, UM, ON, ON ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
UM, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER OUR REPORT AND I THINK, AND OUR PRESENTATION MATERIALS, AND I, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT, UH, UM, THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS AND THESE COMMENTS.
BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON PUTTING THAT TOGETHER, UH, FOR ALL OF COUNCIL TO SEE.
AND THEN ONCE WE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, IF THERE'S BREAKOUTS THAT, THAT COUNCIL WANTS FROM OUR PRESENTATION, THEN WE CAN KIND OF REGROUP THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER.
BUT, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THESE BREAKS AND HOW THEY'RE HAPPENING AND FREQUENCIES AND THOSE THINGS.
SO THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COMMENT ON, UH, AS PART OF OUR PRESENTATION IN MARCH.
UH, AND SO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE INCREASED, THESE INCREASED BREAKS THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT IN OUR PRESENTATION AND, AND WE CAN KIND OF, UM, ONE OFF FROM THAT.
IF, IF YOU'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST GET TO THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, IF YOU NEED TO SEE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THAT, WE CAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.
BASED ON THE CITY MANAGER'S CONVERSATION, I HAVE NO PROBLEM DEFERRING, UH, UH, THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, UNTIL AFTER A CONVERSATION ON MAY 7TH.
UH, HOWEVER IT IS MY HOPE THAT THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE WILL REMAIN A STANDING AGENDA ITEM.
HOW SOON DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE THAT MARCH MEETING SCHEDULED SO PEOPLE HAVE ENOUGH NOTICE? UH, THAT'S JUST MADE A NOTE TO GET WITH BRIAN SO WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING OUT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY.
[ 2023 Street Program - Solicit Bids]
THREE K, WHICH IS THE 2023 STREET PROGRAM AND SOLICITING RUSS.UM, THIS LEGISLATION ALLOWS US TO GO OUT THE BID FOR THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
UH, WE WILL, UH, BE MILLING AND REPAVING APPROXIMATELY 21 DIFFERENT STREETS, UH, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY FIVE MILES OF ROADWAY.
UH, THE STREETS ARE SHOWN ON A MAP IN YOUR PACKETS, AND YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE SPREAD OUT OVER THE CITY.
UM, THIS YEAR'S PAVING INCLUDES THE STREETS THAT WE WILL BE REPLACING THE WATER MEANS STARTING NEXT MONTH, ALTHOUGH THERE'S I THINK FIVE OR SIX OF 'EM.
AND, UH, THOSE WILL BE IN PAVED AT THE END OF THE, THE YEAR AFTER THE WATER MAINS ARE REPLACED.
UH, THERE ARE NO STREETS ON THE LIST THAT, UH, HAD HAD MORE THAN ONE WATER MAIN BREAK IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
SO WE'RE NOT PAVING ANY STREETS THAT HAVE ANY MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH WATER MAINS.
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THIS PROGRAM INCLUDES MAKING STREET BASE REPAIRS AND PATCHING ASPHALT IN THE AREAS OF SEVERE SURFACE DETERIORATION.AND IT INCLUDES FINAL PATCHES IN AREAS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN WATER MAIN BREAKS OVER THE PAST YEAR.
UH, THE PROGRAM IS SET TO NOT EXCEED 1.4 MILLION AND, UH, THE DEDICATED STREET CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND WILL BE USED TO PAY FOR THE PROGRAM.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY.
[ ODOT Consent Legislation - Bridge Repair - Brandt Pike]
UP IS ITEM THREE L O CONSENT LEGISLATION FOR BRIDGE REPAIR ON BRENT PIKE.THIS LEGISLATION IS, IS FOR ODOT, IS TO OBTAIN CONSENT LEGISLATION FROM THE CITY TO INITIATE THEIR, UH, PROJECT PROGRAMMING IN ORDER TO CONDUCT BRIDGE REPAIRS ON THE BRIDGE THAT IT'S LOCATED ON BRANT PIKE, JUST NORTH OF GRUESOME MEYER WAY, WHICH IS NEAR THE Y M C A.
UH, THE PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO BE AWARDED IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR, BUT, UH, CONSTRUCTION WON'T BE TILL APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.
UH, GRANT PIKE IS SCHEDULED TO BE CLOSED AND DETOURED FOR A TWO WEEK TIME PERIOD, UH, NEXT APRIL, AND THEN IT WILL BE OPEN BUT REDUCED TO ONE LANE FOR ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS.
SO THERE'LL BE LIKE A ONE MONTH PERIOD OF, OF REPAIR.
ODOT WILL MANAGE AND INSPECT ALL THE WORK AND ODOT WILL ASSUME AND BEAR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS, SO THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITY.
BRIAN IN THE RESOLUTION SECTION TWO SECOND PARAGRAPH.
IT, UM, MENTIONS THAT THE CITY AGREES TO PAY 100% OF THE COST OF THOSE FEATURES REQUESTED BY THE CITY, WHICH ARE DETERMINED BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION TO BE UNNECESSARY FOR THE PROJECT.
I THINK I'VE GOT A GRASP OF WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT HAVE, UH, HAVE WE IDENTIFIED ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING TO THIS THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE BRIDGE REPAIR? SO WE HAVE NOT ADDED ANY SCOPE TO THIS PROJECT.
THIS WOULD BE THINGS LIKE, UH, THE ASSIGNMENT OF DECORATIVE ART OR DECORATIVE STREET FEATURES, STREETLIGHT FEATURES OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO, UH, WE HAVE NOT REQUESTED ANY OF THOSE ADDITIONAL, UM, ADD-ONS TO THE PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BRIDGE WORK AT PRESENT.
UM, RUSS, WHEN WERE THE ESTIMATED DATES FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT MONTH? NEXT YEAR.
UH, APRIL TO ONE MONTH PROJECT.
ANYTHING ELSE, RICHARD? THANK YOU, RUSS.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THE INFORMATION TODAY, UM, BUT UH, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, UM, I BELIEVE YOU HAD SHARED WITH US PREVIOUSLY A BRIDGE INTEGRITY, UM, UH, HEALTH REPORT, UH, FOR OVERALL, UM, BRIDGE WORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
I KNOW MONTGOMERY COUNTY KEEPS A MASTER COPY OF THAT.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THAT CAN BE EMAILED OUT TO ALL OF COUNSEL? YEAH.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? OKAY, NEXT
[ Old Troy Pike Northbound Widening Project - Solicit Bids]
TIME.THREE M OLD TROY PIKE NORTHBOUND WIDENING PROJECT AND SOLICITING BIDS.
RUSS? UH, YES, THIS, UH, THIS LEGISLATION ALLOWS TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THE WIDENING OF OLD TROY PIKE FROM HUBER COURT AND THEN GOING NORTH TO THE I 70 HIGHWAY RAMP.
UH, THIS WIDENING IS TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE AN ADDITIONAL NORTHBOUND LANE AND AN ADDITIONAL WIDENING ON A PORTION OF, UH, MERRILY WAY.
UH, THE WIDENING IS AN EXTENSION OF THE NORTHBOUND WIDENING THAT JUST OCCURRED IN FRONT OF THE BROADRIDGE DEVELOPMENT FROM TAYLORSVILLE TO HUBER COURT.
UH, THE WORK INCLUDES INSTALLATION OF ASPHALT PAVEMENT, CURB, CURB RAMP, STORM SEWER, AND A NEW MASKED ARM TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT, UH, OAK TROY PIKE.
AND MERRILEE WAY, UH, FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE THIS PASSED AS SOON AS WE COULD, CUZ WE'D LIKE TO GET OUT TO BID ON THIS ONE.
UH, SINCE WE'RE PUTTING IN A NEW MAST ARM THERE AND WE'RE DOING SOME PAVEMENT WORK, WILL WE BE DOING THE DECORATIVE, UH, CROSSWALKS LIKE WE DID UP ON CHAMBERSBURG AND, AND, AND BRANT IN THIS CASE? WE, WE CAN DO THAT, UH, AS PART OF THE ROADWAY.
THAT'S, SO WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IT DOWN ON SOME OLD PAVEMENT IF WE WERE GONNA DO THAT.
BUT COULD WE DO THAT? I MEAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE DO THE NEW MAST ARMS AND, AND OKAY.
THE, THE UPGRADES JUST TO ADD, YOU KNOW, FROM CLASS
UM, RUSS, THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING
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AS WE GO OUT TO, UM, UH, SOLICIT BIDS AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.UNDERSTAND RTA IS ALSO LOOKING AT SOME ADDITIONAL ROUTE, UH, CHANGES.
UM, HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE RTA STOP THERE AT MARY LEEWAY AND TROY? UM, THE, UH, BUS STOP, THE BUS SHELTER THAT'S THERE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE MOVED TO THE SOUTH, PROBABLY IN FRONT OF THE BANK, POSSIBLY.
THERE'S NO ROOM TO PUT IT THERE ANYMORE.
SO THERE'S A BUS STOP ONE PREVIOUS THAT WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY MOVE IT TO RICHARD REAL QUICK.
THERE WILL BE, RTA IS GONNA BE A MONDAY TO DO PRESENTATION, SO IT'D BE A GREAT TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.
UM, SO, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THIS DOWN TO WHERE, UM, THIS STOP PRETTY MUCH IN FRONT OF, UM, UM, HUNTINGTON, UM, THERE AT HUBER ROAD.
THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN STOP AT THAT.
BRIAN, COULD WE, UM, AND RUSS, COULD WE HAVE A, A DRAWING, UM, DENOTING THE CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA BE MADE, UH, TO BE INCLUDED WITH THIS, UH, FOR OUR MONDAY MEETING, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE ON THE READ AHEAD AND ALSO, UM, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO ATTEND SO WE CAN SEE IT UP ON THE SCREEN.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION, UH, AS TO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING WITH, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ON MERRILY WAY AND IMPROVEMENTS TO I 70.
SO, UH, YEAH, WE'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
I THINK THERE WAS A, UM, AT LEAST FOR THE ULTRA PIKE COMPONENT, THERE WAS A, A VERY GOOD PHASED MAP THAT CAME IN FROM OUR PARTNERS AT BROADREACH THAT THEY USED SEVERAL TIMES, UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I BELIEVE AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE'LL SCROUNGE THAT UP AND WE'LL PUT THAT INTO THE PACKET AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GET, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A DESIGN ELEMENT ON MERRI LEE WAY AS PART OF THEIR WORK.
SO WE'LL PULL A, UH, A SHEET, UH, AND INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.
SO WE'LL GET THOSE, UH, TWO ITEMS IN THE PACKET FOR, UH, FOR MONDAY.
WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE A DRAWING THAT IS MORE EASILY UNDERSTOOD AND LOOKING AT IT RATHER THAN JUST THE AR JUST THE ENGINEERING DRAWING? CUZ THERE'S ABOUT 37 LINES WIDE ON A ROAD THAT'S FOUR LANES JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THE OTHER ENGINEERING PIECES THAT ARE NEEDED THAT ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKING AT THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT LAYERS WE CAN TURN OFF, UM, IN, IN THE DRAWING TO MAKE IT AS CLEARLY DELINEATED FOR NON-ENGINEERING TYPES TO SEE WHAT THE, THE ROAD'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
I THINK JUST FOR THE AMOUNT OF FRUSTRATION PEOPLE HAVE REGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, RIGHT.
THE MORE EASILY UNDERSTOOD AND READABLE THAT DRAWING COULD BE TO GIVE THEM AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE.
ANITA, ALSO, WHEN YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING, CAN YOU GIVE US THE COST OF MAKING IT PRETTY VERSUS NOT MAKING IT PRETTY
ANYTHING ELSE? RICHARD? MAYOR, MY APOLOGIES IF I WAS, UH, QUICK ON THAT.
I, OBVIOUSLY WITH ME NOT BEING HERE ON MONDAY, I'M HOPING THE SAME RTA PRESENTATION AS THE ONE I'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY WITH MR. OWENS.
UM, AND, UM, NOT A, UH, FORESHADOW OF THAT, BUT, UH, I'M HOPING THE DESIGN FOR THE HUBER BUS IS GONNA BE STARTING VERY SOON, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT ON MONDAY SOON.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY.
[ East Sanitary Sewer Extension Project - Award Contract]
IN WHICH IS THE EAST SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION PROJECT AND AWARDING THE CONTRACT.RUSS? UH, YES, THIS AWARD AND ENTERED A CONTRACT WITH HELM AND SONS EXCAVATING FOR THE EAST SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION PROJECT.
UH, THAT PROJECT, UH, INVOLVES A CONSTRUCTION OF TWO PUMP STATIONS, THE EXTENSION OF 12 INCH AND 15 INCH SANITARY SEWER, UH, FROM THE FAIRBORNE WASTEWATER PLANT GOING NORTH ON THIS SIDE OF ROUTE FOUR, UH, THEN TO NEW CARLISLE PIKE AND CONTINUING NORTH TO CENTER POINT 70.
AND THIS IS ALL IN ORDER TO REDIRECT ALL THE SANITARY SEWER FLOW FROM CENTER POINT 70 TO THE FAIRBORNE PLANT INSTEAD OF THE FLOW GOING TO CLARK COUNTY.
UH, AND THE, I THINK THERE IS A MAP IN YOUR PACKET THERE.
UH, WE HAD A BID OPENING ON, ON JANUARY 20TH.
THERE WERE FIVE CONTRACTORS THAT SUBMITTED A BID FOR THIS PROJECT, AND A BID TABULATION IS ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, THE LOWEST AND BEST BIDDER WAS HEL HELLMAN SONS EXCAVATING WITH A BID OF $3,917,449, UH, WITH A COMPLETION TIME OF 300 DAYS.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED COST ON THIS PROJECT OF 4,300,000, WHICH IS, UH, 10% FOR CONTINUENCY.
UH, HELLMAN SONS EXCAVATING IS LOCATED IN FINLEY.
UH, WE HAVE NOT WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE, BUT, UH, THEY HAVE BEEN IN
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BUSINESS FOR 25 YEARS AND WE DID CALL FIVE OTHER CITIES THAT WERE GIVEN AS REFERENCES AND THEY ALL FOR, FOR LARGE SANITARY PROJECTS, AND THEY ALL GAVE 'EM A GOOD REFERENCE.SO WE FEEL, I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL BE, FEEL A LITTLE CONFIDENT.
I THINK THEY'LL BE ALL RIGHT TO WORK WITH.
UH, THE BID INCLUDED AN ALTERNATE BID FOR INSTALLING ADDITIONAL SANITARY SEWER ON CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.
UH, BUT DUE TO THE HIGHER BID COST, WE DECIDED TO, THAT WAS AN ALTERNATE BID AND WE DECIDED TO NOT DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL DO THAT AT A LATER, LATER TIME.
UH, THE PIPE DELIVER FOR THIS PROJECT IS NOT AN ISSUE.
THE PVC PIPE IS, UH, FOUR TO SIX WEEKS FOR DELIVERY, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET GOING PRETTY FAST ON THIS ONE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE
[ Street Dedication - Old Dominion Way]
OH STREET DEDICATION FOR OLD DOMINION WAY.RUSS, UH, THIS LEGISLATION IS FOR APPROVAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF A PORTION OF A NEW STREET, UH, WITHIN CENTER POINT 70 COMMERCIAL PARK.
UH, THE MAP IS ENCLOSED IN THE PACKET AND, UH, THE STREET IS ACROSS FROM COCA-COLA BOULEVARD AND IS IS A STUBB STREET THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE, UH, NEW OLD DOMINION TRUCKING COMPANY.
UH, THE STREET WAS INSPECTED AND FINAL REPAIRS WERE MADE, AND THE FINAL COURSE OF ASPHALT WAS COMPLETED.
UM, THIS, THIS WILL MAKE, UM, THE STREET PUBLIC AND WILL NOW BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY FOR PLOWING AND REPAIRS.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, WE'LL SEE YOU ON MONDAY.
[ Street Safety Study - Award Contract]
THE STREET SAFETY STUDY.UH, AND AWARDING THAT CONTRACT.
YEAH, UH, THIS ONE, UH, IS ENTERED IN CONTRACT WITH PURCHASE A NIER TO PERFORM A STREET SAFETY STUDY.
UM, THIS STUDY IS REQUIRED BY THE YOUTH DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, AND IS TO BE COMPLETED BY THE CITY IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE THROUGH THE SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL GRANT PROGRAM.
UH, THIS PROGRAM IS PART OF THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, WHICH IS THE BILL FUNDING THAT'S BEEN OUT.
UM, AND THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND JOBS ACT.
IT'S TWO, TWO NAMES FOR THE SAME FUNDING.
UM, SAFETY PLAN WILL BE, WILL STUDY THE EXISTING SAFETY CONDITIONS WITHIN THE WHOLE CITY AND DEVELOP ACTION ITEMS TO REDUCE THE FREQUENCY OF SEVERE CRASHES AND TO DECIDE IF ANY ROADS NEED UPGRADED OR IMPROVED TO MAKE THEM SAFER.
UH, THE CITY, WE SOLICITED QUOTES FROM THREE CONSULTING FIRMS AT BURGESS AND IPO, UH, PRESENTED THE LOWEST AND BEST PROPOSAL TO PERFORM THE STUDY.
UH, THE FEE TO PERFORM WAS, UH, IT WAS 50,000, BUT WE ADDED $1,500 FOR ADDITIONAL ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM, SO IT'S $51,500.
UH, THE SECOND LOW PROPOSAL WAS FOR $93,000.
UH, AND WE HAD A THIRD ONE THAT DID NOT SUBMIT THE PROPOSAL.
UM, ONCE THE STUDY IS COMPLETED, IT WAS BE USED TO APPLY FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AT THE NEXT APPLICATION DEADLINE, WHICH IS IN SEPTEMBER OCTOBER.
UM, FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE THROUGH THE GAS TAX FUND.
UM, THIS STUDY IS KIND OF NEEDED TO JUST TO APPLY FOR FUNDING AND IT'S A FIVE, FIVE YEARS OF FUNDING EVERY YEAR.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UH, SUBMIT A, A STREET OR SAFETY ITEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT PART OF THAT SUBMITTAL EACH YEAR YOU HAVE TO HAVE, DO THIS STUDY FIRST, AND THAT'S WHY WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
WE'VE USED, UH, ESSON NLE, UM, PREVIOUSLY WITH THE STUDY
YOUR, ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, NEXT UP
[ ED/GE Grant Agreement - Millat Industries]
IS ITEM THREE Q, WHICH IS THE EDGE GRANT AGREEMENT FOR MULO INDUSTRIES.AS COUNSEL WAS PREVIOUSLY BRIEFED IN A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, UH, FROM MEETINGS PASSED, UH, MULO INDUSTRIES OVER IN CENTER POINT 70 WAS THE RECIPIENT OF A GRANT AWARD, UH, EDGE GRANT AWARD FOR, UH, $62,400, UH, TO SUPPORT A LARGER PROJECT, UH, WHICH WILL, UH, REPLACE AND UPGRADE THEIR, UH, H V A C SYSTEM, AS WELL AS EMPOWER THEM TO BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL MILLING EQUIPMENT.
UH, THE CITY, UH, HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
UH, MONTGOMERY COUNTY APPROVED THAT AGREEMENT THIS MORNING.
UH, AND, UH, IN LIGHT OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, MATTER, WE NEED TO NOW ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MULLAN INDUSTRIES, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS GRANT.
WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, UH, ENACT LEGISLATION ON MONDAY NEXT WEEK, UH, TO AUTHORIZE THAT AGREEMENT TO PROCEED SO THAT WE CAN GET 'EM ALL OUT THEIR MONEY SO THEY CAN GET ON WITH THEIR WORK.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? OKAY, NEXT TIME.
[ Board and Commission Appointments * Personnel Appeals Board - Reappointment]
[ * Parks and Recreation Board - Reappointment]
THREE R BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.WE HAVE TWO REAPPOINTMENTS, UH, TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.
THE FIRST IS, UH, UH, REAPPOINTMENT TO THE PERSONNEL APPEALS BOARD, UH, MR.
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KENNETH STEIN AND TO THE PARKSTON RECREATION BOARD.THERE'S THE REAPPOINTMENT OF ALEXANDER BLACK, UM, WHERE APPROPRIATE, UH, BACKGROUND CHECKS HAVE BEEN UPDATED ON BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS.
AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO, UH, PLACE THESE MOTIONS FOR COUNSEL'S APPROVAL FOR REAPPOINTMENT ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? OKAY, I'LL SEE IT ON MONDAY.
[ City Manager Search Process]
S, CITY MANAGER SEARCH PROCESS TODAY.SO, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, COUNSEL HAD ASKED THAT I, UH, RE-ENGAGE WITH, UH, BAKER TILLEY AND, UH, DISCUSSED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS FOR RESTARTING THE CITY MANAGER, UH, SEARCH PROCESS.
AND, UM, I DID THAT THAT WEEK.
UH, MADE CONTACT WITH, UH, PATTY HEOVER, WHO'S OUR REPRESENTATIVE WITH BAKER TILLY.
UM, SHE BASICALLY SAID ALL SHE WOULD NEED FROM US WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, NOTICED THAT WE WANT TO PULL THE TRIGGER AND REENGAGE IN THE PROCESS.
AND THAT, UM, SHE WOULD THEN ONCE GIVEN THAT APPROVAL, WOULD TAKE THE NEXT STEPS TO SET OUT A CALENDAR FOR, UH, THE VARIOUS STEPS OF THE SEARCH, UH, PROCESS AND L LAY THAT OUT, UM, ON A CALENDAR, UM, AND BASICALLY REENGAGE IN THE SEARCH FOR APPLICANTS FOR THAT POSITION.
SO I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT, RIGHT? GETTING BACK IN TOUCH WITH HER? YEAH.
UH, I THINK THE, THERE'S SUB DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CALENDAR.
[ Planning Commission Interviews]
T, WHICH IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION INTERVIEWS THAT WE HAVE.SO, UH, WE HAVE TWO, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION INTERVIEW, UH, UH, UH, INTERVIEWS SCHEDULED TONIGHT FOR THE APPLICANTS RECEIVED FOR THE ONE VACANCY WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THERE'S, UH, MR. DAVID CASSIE AND MR. LESTER VAUGHN.
UH, THEY'VE BOTH BEEN SCHEDULED FOR EIGHT AND EIGHT 30 THIS EVENING FOR THOSE INTERVIEWS.
UM, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONDUCT THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION INTERVIEWS AND TO CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, UM, WOULD BE THE STATED REASON FOR, UH, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO A MOTION DON, THERE A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? GLENN? JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF COMMISSION AND BOARD CANDIDATES BEFORE, AND I DON'T RECALL DOING IT IN THIS MANNER.
UH, GOING INTO EXECUTIVE AT A MEETING IS THAT HISTORICALLY, UH, ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN BY COUNCIL IN EXECUTIVES ED.
SO WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THE PROCESS THAT WAS UTILIZED BEFORE.
UH, THAT'S THE ONE COMMISSION AT LEAST.
UH, HISTORICALLY COUNCILS CONVEYED TO ME THEY WANT TO BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE SELECTION OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
SO, UH, LAST TIME WE, UH, DID IT, UM, A FEW YEARS BACK WE HAD SEVEN APPLICANTS, UM, AND SCHEDULED A SPECIAL MEETING TO DO THAT, BUT, UH, WITH JUST TO, WE FIGURED WE COULD FIT IT IN AND THE SAME EVENING AS THE REGULAR ONE.
AND MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
UH, AT THE END OF EXECUTIVE SESSION WE'LL COME BACK OUT AND, UH, WE'LL ANNOUNCE ANY ACTION TAKEN.
IT IS NOW 9 0 8 AND WE HAVE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, THERE WILL BE A, UH, MOTION TO APPOINT, UH, A NEW MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, AT MONDAY'S MEETING AND ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, UH, NECESSARY TO FILL THOSE SPOTS AT 9 0 8.