Dec 06, 2022 Council Work Session

[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]

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OKAY.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO CITY HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

TODAY'S DATE IS DECEMBER THE SIXTH, 2022.

IT IS 6 0 2.

AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED.

MS. ME IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.

SO KAREN, IF YOU WOULD CALL THEM PLEASE.

MR. SEAN? HERE.

MS. BAKER? HERE.

MR. CAMPBELL? HERE.

VERGE.

HERE.

MR. OTTO? HERE.

MR. LYONS? HERE.

MRS. KITCHEN? HERE.

MR. WEBB? HERE.

MAY FOUR HERE.

[2. Approval of Minutes]

WE HAVE, UH, ONE SET THAT IS, UH, ITEM TWO A, WHICH IS FROM NOVEMBER 22ND, 2022.

THOSE HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS? OKAY.

THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED THIS EVENING FOR, UH, WHICH IS ITEM THREE, OUR WORK SESSION TOPICS OF DISCUSSION, UH, WE DO HAVE TWO ITEMS, UH, THAT WOULD NEED TO AMEND THIS AGENDA THIS EVENING.

FOUR.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD'VE, KAREN, READ WHAT THOSE, UH, WHAT THAT MOTION WOULD BE FOR THOSE TWO OTHER ITEMS. OKAY.

IT'S A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD ITEM THREE S FOR AN INCREASE TO THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR JOINT VENTURES.

AND ITEM THREE T AUTHORIZING A MORAL CLAIM FOR TIRE DAMAGE TO AN INDIVIDUAL CAUSED BY THE HE HEIGHTS POLICE DIVISION WHILE ASSISTING ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AT A PURSUIT OF A STOLEN VEHICLE.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA? KATE? I MOVED TO MAKE A MOTION TO THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

UH, NANCY.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION ON SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? KAREN, PLEASE? MS. BAKER? YES.

MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MRS. VERGE? YES.

MR. OTTO? YES.

MR. LYONS? YES.

MRS. KITCHEN? YES.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. SHAW? YES.

OKAY.

AND THE MOTION TO AGEN, SORRY.

AMEND.

THE AGENDA PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

SO WE HAVE ADDED ITEM THREE S AND ITEM THREE .

OKAY.

NEXT UP WILL BE ITEM THREE A.

[ City Manager Report]

BRIAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

UH, A FEW ITEMS FOR COUNSEL, THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT.

UH, FIRST, UH, LEAF PICKUP WILL END ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER 30TH, SO MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR, UH, LEAVES OUT, UH, TO THE STREET BEFORE THEN.

UH, WANNA MAKE COUNCIL AWARE THAT THE CITY WAS AWARDED AN O P WC GRANT FOR THE FISHBURG WIDENING AND SIDEWALK PROJECT.

UH, THAT'S A $200,000 GRANT, UH, PAIRED WITH A $200,000 0% INTEREST LOAN.

UM, WE'LL BE WORKED TO, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING TO GET THAT PROJECT UNDERWAY AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

UH, ALSO WANNA LET, UH, COUNSEL KNOW THAT THE CITY WAS AWARDED, UH, $62,400 IN EDGE GRANT REVENUES, OR IN, EXCUSE ME, EDGE GRANT MONIES, UH, TO SUPPORT MULLO INDUSTRIES AND THEIR H V A C, UH, UPGRADE IN EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

UH, HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY SWING AT COMMUNITY PARK IS BEING INSTALLED THIS WEEK AND SHOULD BE FULLY SERVICEABLE AND ACCESSIBLE, UH, AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK.

I ALSO WANNA LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT, UH, THE A A R P, UH, SENIOR FRIENDLY FOCUS GROUP MET YESTERDAY OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

UH, THEY ARE DISCUSSING THE AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WE'LL BE GOING OUT EARLY IN 2023.

AND THEN, UH, LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, UH, I DID WANNA POINT COUNSEL'S ATTENTION TO THE NEWEST FACE AT THE STAFF TABLE.

UH, OUR NEW ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, KYRON GRANT, UH, KYRON JOINS US FROM THE, UH, CITY OF DAYTON, WHERE HE WAS FORMERLY A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST.

UH, KYRON IS RETIRED AIR FORCE.

HE HOLDS A BACHELOR'S FROM ARIZONA STATE, A MASTERS FROM VILLANOVA, AND WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD, ESPECIALLY AS HE REPRESENTS BOTH A PERSPECTIVE FROM, UH, THE MUNICIPAL, UH, WORLD, FROM THE PUBLIC SERVANT WORLD, UH, BUT ALSO FROM A HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENCY PERSPECTIVE.

SO HE'S BEEN ON STAFF ABOUT A WEEK, UM, AND, UH, DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR COUNSEL, SIR.

UNLESS COUNSEL HAS ANYTHING FOR ME, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME.

AND, UM, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT, UH, ANYTHING YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT YOUR FIRST WEEK? UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY.

UH, FIRST WEEK'S BEEN GREAT.

UH, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH, UH, SEVERAL, UH, DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS, UH, MAINLY POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, LEARNING A LOT.

VERY EXCITED TO, UH, BE HERE WITH THE, THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND, UH, ASSIST THE CITY MANAGER AND HELPING MOVE FORWARD THE CITY'S STRATEGIC VISION.

SO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS.

AND, AND WELCOME.

ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, UH, FOR BRIAN? YES, KATE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

BRIAN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT PARK? THE, UM, H THE, THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT? OH, THE PARK.

THAT'S, UH, COMMUNITY PARK, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

COMMUNITY PARK.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT.

MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR BRIAN? OKAY.

SAY NOTHING.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[ Equipment Purchase Agreement - Patterson Pope - Police Division]

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CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING.

THIS RESOLUTION IS TO AUTHORIZE US TO, UM, USE PATTERSON POPE TO PURCHASE NEW LOCKERS AND BENCHES FOR THE, UH, MEN'S AND WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOM.

AS A POLICE DIVISION, THE LOCKERS ARE, UH, STARTING TO, UH, BE RUSTED AND, AND DISREPAIR ALSO BY ADDING THESE NEW LOCKERS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 50, WE HAVE 49 LOCKERS IN THE MEN'S AND SIX IN THE WOMEN'S.

THIS WILL ADD, UH, TO EACH LOCKER ROOM.

WE'LL ADD SIX TO THE MEN'S LOCKER ROOM, AND WE WILL ADD TWO TO THE WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOM.

ALSO, IT WILL, UH, ENABLE THE OFFICERS TO CHARGE THEIR FLASHLIGHTS, UM, AND RADIOS INSIDE THEIR LOCKER.

THERE'LL BE ELECTRIC, UH, OUTLET, AND THERE'LL ALSO BE A USB PORT IN EACH LOCKER TO BE ABLE TO, UH, KEEP THEIR EQUIPMENT CHARGED.

OKAY.

THANKS, CHIEF.

ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE CHIEF REGARDING THE ADDITION OF THESE LOCKERS? OKAY.

FIGHT OVER 'EM.

.

PARDON? YOU GONNA FIGHT? I SAID THEY GONNA FIGHT OVER THE NEW CAPABILITIES AND NEW LOCKERS.

THERE'S ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THEM.

, BOB.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

CHIEF, COULD YOU SPEAK JUST A BIT TO THE, UM, UM, OFFSETTING DONATION? SURE, YEAH.

I HAD A, UH, LOCAL BUSINESSMAN COME INTO MY OFFICE AND INDICATED THAT HE WANTED TO DONATE SOME MONEY, UH, TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY.

AND, UH, AND I TOLD HIM ABOUT THE PROJECT WITH THE LOCKERS, AND HE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN, UH, IN THAT.

UM, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH HIM HALF A DOZEN TIMES SINCE THEN.

AND, UH, AND HE HAS, UH, TOLD ME THAT HE IS INTERESTED IN DONATING UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TOWARD THE PROJECT.

WOW.

THAT WAS AMAZING.

YES.

YES.

SINCE NONE OF US KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THIS, UH, DONOR, I'M HOPING THAT, UH, HE OR SHE IS LISTENING AND, UH, KNOWS THAT WE'RE SINCERELY THANKFUL.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANKS.

LISTENING.

IF YOU'D CERTAINLY PASS ON OUR THANKS AND CERTAINLY MINE.

YES, I WILL.

I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

YES.

FANTASTIC.

OKAY.

ANY OBJECTION MOVING THIS ONTO ON MONDAY'S MEETING? OKAY.

[ Apparatus Purchase - Fire Division]

UH, CHIEF EISEL, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? I'M GOOD.

HOW IS EVERYBODY? GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

UH, WE ARE HERE FULLY ACKNOWLEDGE WE'RE HERE, UH, AT LEAST, UH, A MONTH EARLIER THAN WHAT WE HAD PLANNED ON.

UM, WE'VE HAD IN THE C I P FOR SEVERAL YEARS REPLACEMENT OF, UH, WHAT WE CALL ENGINE 25 AND ALSO OUR RESERVE ENGINE.

THE RESERVE ENGINE, UH, THAT WILL GET REPLACED, UH, WAS, UH, UH, PURCHASE AND PUT IN SERVICE A YEAR BEFORE I STARTED HERE.

SO 1997.

AND, UH, IT'S BEEN IN A RESERVE ROLE.

IT'S A FAIRLY RELIABLE PIECE, BUT IT IS GETTING UP IN AGE.

AND THEN THE ENGINE THAT WILL FILTER INTO THE RESERVE SPOT IS A 2006, UH, FIRE APPARATUS.

THAT, UH, 2006 FIRE APPARATUS HAS SEVEN, 7,910 HOURS ON IT AS OF TWO HOURS AGO.

AND, UH, ABOUT 97,000 MILES ON IT.

SO I GIVE YOU THE HOURS BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE PUMPING AND THE ENGINE'S RUNNING, IT'S COMPARABLE TO ABOUT 470,000 MILES IF YOU WERE TO DRIVE 60 MILES AN HOUR.

UM, SO ANYWAYS, THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE, IT'S BEEN IN THE C I P AND WE, WE DON'T WANNA BUY IT UNTIL WE HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY IT, OBVIOUSLY.

UH, SO JANUARY ONE, IF THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO PURCHASE THAT ENGINE, UH, ARE ONE OF THE MANUFACTURERS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.

UH, THEY'RE THE MANUFACTURER THAT WE BOUGHT OUR TILLER.

AND IN FACT, THIS WOULD BE THE FOURTH, UH, SUING VEHICLE.

UH, THE, THE VENDOR HAS CALLED US UP, UH, PROBABLY THREE WEEKS AGO AND SAID THAT IF YOU DO NOT ORDER BY DECEMBER 15TH, UH, THE PRICE IS GONNA GO UP TO ABOUT FIF BY ABOUT $50,000.

SO I APPROACHED, UH, MR. KOWSKI TO, UH, SEE IF IT WOULD BE OUR DESIRE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING.

AND WE CAME UP WITH THIS CREATIVE LANGUAGE THAT SATISFIES THE VENDOR.

THE VENDOR NEEDS TO HAVE THE ORDER SIGNED BY DECEMBER 15TH.

UH, THE LEGISLATION, THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN, GIVES THEM THE ASSURANCES SO THEY CAN DO WHATEVER BUSINESS NEEDS.

THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT THE ORDER, UH, THIS ISN'T ANYTHING THAT WE RUSHED TOGETHER.

UH, I JUST LOOKED, UH, LOOKED UP.

UH, IT WAS AUGUST THE 12TH, THE 10TH, OR THE 12TH.

UH, WE HAD OUR FIRST ENGINE WORKING GROUP COMMITTEE.

SO A GROUP OF FIREFIGHTERS, FIRE OFFICERS, AND BATTALION CHIEF MALL HAD ALL GOTTEN TOGETHER AND LOOKED TO SEE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT, UH, WHAT WE COULD IMPROVE ON, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT GENERATION OF FIREFIGHTERS HERE SINCE THE LAST ENGINE THAT WE BOUGHT OR SINCE THIS ENGINE THAT WE BOUGHT.

SO, UM, WE'RE NOT RUSHING ANYTHING.

UH,

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THANKS, CHIEF.

ANY QUESTIONS GOING ONCE? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS? MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ The Oaks Subdivision - Street Dedications]

WE HAVE SOME STREET DEDICATIONS.

UH, RUSS? YEAH, GOOD EVENING.

UM, THIS LEGISLATION LEGISLATION'S FOR APPROVAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF TWO STREETS WITHIN THE OAK SUBDIVISION.

UH, UH, SECTION NINE OF THAT SUBDIVISION, UH, MAP IS ENCLOSED.

YOUR PACKET SHOWING THE TWO STREETS, UH, SHOWN IN RED.

AND, UH, THE STREETS WERE INSPECTED AND, UH, FINAL REPAIRS WERE MADE, AND THE FINAL COURSE OF ASPHALT WAS COMPLETED.

UH, THIS WILL MAKE THE CITY, IT'LL MAKE IT A PUBLIC STREET, AND WHICH WILL NOW BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY FOR PLOWING AND FOR AND FOR REPAIRS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? YES, NANCY? UH, FIRST DOES THIS CLOSE OUT? THE, UM, THIS DOESN'T CLOSE OUT THE DEDICATION OF THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, DOES IT? IT'S JUST THE STREETS.

JUST THE STREETS, RIGHT.

SO HOW MANY, HOW MANY MORE STREETS ARE IN THE OAKS TO BE BEFORE THAT IS COMPLETELY FINISHED.

THERE'S NO MORE STREETS.

SO THIS IS, YEAH, JUST FOR ALL THE STREETS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY CLOSING OUT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, BUT, BUT THESE, THIS IS THE LAST OF THE STREETS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.

YES.

OKAY.

YES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OBJECTIONS.

OKAY.

[ Carriage Trails Subdivision - Street Dedications]

WE HAVE SOME STREET DEDICATIONS THERE, RUSS? YES, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

UH, IT'S 10 STREETS WITHIN CARRIAGE TRAILS.

ALSO A MAP, UH, IS ENCLOSED, UH, IN THIS CASE THOUGH, THE NEW STREETS ARE THE, UM, DEDICATED STREETS ARE IN GREEN IN, IN THIS CASE, FOR THE 10 STREETS.

UH, ALSO THEY WERE INSPECTED AND MADE REPAIRS AND ASPHALTS COMPLETED.

AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, THIS WILL BE FOR THE CITY TO MAINTAIN NOW AND PLOW AND MAKE REPAIRS.

ANY QUESTIONS, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR RUSS.

UM, WITH, UH, WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM AND THE CURRENT ITEM, UM, HOW MANY, UH, MILES OF STREETS ARE WE LOOKING TO ADD? UH, JUST BETWEEN THESE TWO ITEMS, CAUGHT ME UP GUARD.

UM, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK.

I PROBABLY HAVE A MILE, MAYBE.

I'M NOT SURE.

OKAY.

AND, AND, AND NO RUSH.

IF YOU CAN GET THAT BACK TO ME, UH, I CAN DO, WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE LIST.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTION TO MONDAY? NEXT

[ Fishburg Road/Endicott Road Storm Culvert Replacement - Award Contract]

UH, RUSS, THIS IS YOU ALSO? YES, IT IS.

UM, THIS WAS KINDA WORKING WITH MIKE ON THIS ONE.

UM, THERE'S A CULVERT OVER ON, UH, FISHBURG ROAD JUST TO THE WEST OF ENDICOTT.

I, I DID SHOW, HAVE A MAP IN THERE ALSO SHOWING WHERE IT'S AT.

UH, THIS IS AN OLD CORRUGATE METAL PIPE THAT'S CORRODED AND NEEDS REPLACED.

UH, WE DID GET QUOTES FROM THREE CONTRACTORS, ONLY GOT QUOTES BACK FROM TWO.

UH, CG CONSTRUCTION WAS THE LOWEST AND BEST FOR THIS.

UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO AWARD IT TO THEM.

THE QUOTE WAS 31,675.

WE PUT A NOT TO EXCEED A $40,000.

UH, THE SECOND QUOTE WAS AT 55,600.

UH, CG CONSTRUCTION HAS PERFORMED MANY PROJECTS IN THE CITY, AND, UH, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE A GOOD JOB.

SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE A STORMWATER FUND, UH, PROJECT.

THANKS, ROSS.

ANY QUESTIONS? UH, HUNTER? YES, RICHARD.

THANK YOU, RUSS.

UH, UM, ARE WE GONNA BE DOING ANY TYPE OF, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, ROAD MAINTENANCE PAVING? I KNOW WE DID SOME, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY SOME, UM, SOME SIDE ROAD, UH, BERM IMPROVEMENTS OVER THERE WITH SOME GRAVEL WORK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, PREVIOUSLY, ARE WE GONNA BE CONTINUING THAT PROCESS? I BELIEVE SO, BUT, UM, MIKE PRETTY MUCH DOES THAT.

I, I DON'T TELL HIM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE IN TANDEM.

I KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS DIRECTION BY COUNCILS, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO WORK ON A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS IN TANDEM.

UM, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE WORKING IN TANDEM.

IF YOU COULD, UH, IF YOU CAN GIVE ME THAT INFORMATION, THAT'D BE GREAT.

IT WON'T BE, THIS CONTRACTOR WON'T BE DOING THAT, BUT IF CORRECT, MIKE'S CREW MIGHT BE DOING IT.

OKAY.

AND, AND I DO UNDERSTAND AS WELL THAT, UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH, UM, WITH A LOT OF THE GREENERY DOWN, UH, WOULD PROBABLY BE A MORE OPTIMAL TIME.

BUT, UM, UH, WITH A LOT OF THE LINE OF SIGHT ISSUES, SOME OF THOSE TREES ARE STARTING TO, TO GROW OVER IN THAT AREA.

UM, IF, UH, THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE IT STARTS GREENING UP IN SPRING AS WELL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU HONOR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND WE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? OKAY.

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[ Disposal of Surplus Property - Engineering Division]

UH, IT'S JUST A, A 2009 CHEVY IMPALA, WHICH WE USED AS A BACKUP.

AND IT WAS AN OLD POLICE CAR AND A 2011 FORD F-150 PICKUP TRUCK THAT ONE OF OUR INSPECTORS HAD USED.

BRIAN, OR I GUESS, AND JIM, WHEN WE DID THE, UM, THE LEASE AGREEMENT, WE, WE KIND OF CHANGED THINGS OVER FOR HOW WE'RE GETTING OUR VEHICLES.

YES, SIR.

WHERE, WHERE ARE WE AT? WE HAVEN'T REALLY DISCUSSED HOW THOSE LEASES NOW ARE COMING THROUGH VERSUS THE PURCHASE.

SURE.

AND THEN ALSO CITY OF DAYTON HAS JUST MADE A REALLY BIG DEAL ABOUT BRINGING IN ELECTRIC VEHICLES INTO THEIR FLEET.

AND I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING SOME OF THAT, BUT CORRECT.

UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY LOVE FROM ANYBODY ABOUT, ABOUT, WE WERE ABOVE THE PACE ON THAT BY ABOUT A YEAR.

SO, SO JUST ANY KIND OF UPDATE ABOUT THAT? SURE.

SO I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE PROGRAM, UH, WE ARE, I'D SAY 85% OF THE WAY THROUGH OUR INITIAL PHASE OF REPLACEMENTS.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE WHOLE, UM, SUPPLY CHAIN, UH, MICROCHIP DEBACLE.

UH, SO THERE ARE A FEW VEHICLES.

UM, FOR INSTANCE, I THINK IN THE PUBLIC WORKS OR PUBLIC WORKS, I THINK IN THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE HYUNDAI, UH, TUCSON, I THINK WAS THE, THE ORIGINAL VEHICLE.

AND, BUT BETWEEN PURCHASES AND ALLOCATIONS AND ALL THESE CHANGES, WE WOUND UP WITH FORD EXPLORERS.

AND I MEAN, THAT WAS LIKE A FIVE MONTH PROCESS TO GET TO THAT POINT.

UH, SO WE'VE HAD A FEW DELAYS TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.

BUT BY AND LARGE, ABOUT 85% OF THE FLEET IS HERE BASED ON THAT PROGRAM.

CHIEF NICELY HAS A COUPLE OF VEHICLES THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN DELAYED, BUT, UH, THERE'S THE, UH, UH, HIS SPECIFICATION OF THE, UH, CANDY, APPLE RED, UH, FOR HIS VEHICLES, UH, MAKES, UH, MAKES THE ACQUISITION OF THOSE OR THE IDENTIFICATION OF THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT.

BUT, UH, THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED.

UH, WE DO HAVE A FEW ELECTRIC VEHICLES INCLUDED IN THE FLEET.

UH, THAT'S PART OF THE REPLACEMENT FOR NEXT YEAR, I BELIEVE IT IS.

SO I KNOW THAT THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT COUNCIL HAD WANTED US TO CONSIDER.

AND SO WE WANTED TO INCLUDE A COUPLE OF VEHICLES TO, UH, TO TRY THAT OUT AND TO DETERMINE, UH, WHAT THAT ELECTRIC, UH, PRODUCT WOULD DO AND HOW THAT WOULD FUNCTION.

UH, SO, UM, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, WE WOULD LOOK TO START CYCLING OUT.

WHAT WOULD BE THIS PHASE? SO PHASE ONE WOULD CYCLE OUT ABOUT FOUR YEARS.

SO IF WE'RE SEEING, UM, POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WE WOULD LOOK TO BEGIN ADDING ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN ABOUT FOUR YEARS, IS WHERE THAT IS.

UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, ANYTIME ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, TO SWING BY THE NEWER LOOKING WHITE VEHICLES IN THE LOT OUTBACK, UH, THAT'S ALL THE STUFF THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, THAT'S NEW, UH, HERE ON SITE.

BUT, UM, UH, THESE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE, UM, DECLARING SURPLUS, THIS FIRST GROUP WILL BE SOLD.

UH, WE WILL BE SELLING THOSE, AND THEN ALL OF THESE LEASES WILL, IN THE FUTURE, WILL BE REPLACED THROUGH OUR PROGRAM.

SO THAT WILL BE THAT, UH, EQUITY TRADE OUT.

GOTCHA.

THAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT WITH COUNCIL.

IT'S ONLY THIS INITIAL, UH, RELEASE OF OUR CURRENT VEHICLES, UH, THAT WILL BE DONE THROUGH TRADITIONAL SALE.

THANKS, NANCY.

SO THESE ARE BACK UP, THESE TWO, WE'RE GETTING RID OF NOT CREATING THE VOID, AND WE GET NEW ONES.

UH, NO.

SO THIS IS A TRADE OUT FOR WHAT'S COMING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

BRIAN, ONE MORE QUESTION.

UM, DO WE HAVE A CHARGING STATION FOR THESE EV VEHICLES COMING THAT'S IN THE POLICE LOT OR THE CITY LOT HERE? LIKE, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? UM, I KNOW ONE'S SUPPOSED TO COME THE ROSE AND THE CLOUD, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, MA'AM.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CHARGING STATIONS HERE IN THE CITY, BUT, UH, THE LOGISTICS BETWEEN, UH, STAFF AND, UH, YES.

SO THE LEGIT, YEAH.

SO THE LOGISTICS BETWEEN OUR STAFF AND ENTERPRISE FOR THESE VEHICLES, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN WORKED OUT YET, BUT THAT'S PART OF THIS NEXT, THESE VEHICLES ARE PART OF THAT GROUP COMING IN.

SO, UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN CONFRONTED WITH HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT, BUT I KNOW AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE WILL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SURE, NANCY.

YEAH.

AND, UH, YOU PROBABLY KNOW, BUT, UM, THROUGH THE, UH, BILATERAL INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, THEY'RE PUTTING A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THE CARBON REDUCTION MM-HMM.

.

SO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR SOME MONEY TO PAY FOR ADDITIONALS TO RESOURCES.

CORRECT.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME EMAIL TRAFFIC THAT CAME INTO THE CITY, I WANNA SAY THE LAST WEEK OR SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

SO, UH, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HERE IN THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE, ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE, WE QUALIFY FOR.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

BRIAN, OTHER THAN THE, UM, LOGISTICS SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM ENTERPRISE THUS FAR, OR, UM, WELL, SO FAR, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, SO FAR I THINK THAT, UM, WE ARE IN A BETTER PLACE TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE, HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, UH, ABOUT THE CONDITION OF

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SO WE'RE NOT RUNNING INTO HAVING TO RUN OUT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UM, PUT JUMPER CABLES ON VEHICLES OR WHATNOT OR, OR, UM, SWAP VEHICLES OUT FOR MAINTENANCE REPAIRS LIKE WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY.

UH, I THINK WE'LL REALLY BE, BEGIN TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE BUDGET STARTING NEXT YEAR, NOW THAT THE FLEETS HERE, UH, ARE A PORTION OF THE FLEETS HERE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO OPERATE.

SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WE SHOULD SEE, I SHOULD SAY, HOPEFULLY WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO SEE A DECREASE IN OUR MAINTENANCE EXPENSES.

UH, AND, AND, AND THAT TRADEOFF THEN WILL COME IN THROUGH THOSE CAPITAL LEASE PAYMENTS.

SO IT SHOULD BE A, A ZERO NET EFFECT ON THE BUDGET, UH, BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE SO FAR.

OKAY.

GOOD.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO MONDAY? OKAY.

[ City Staffing Levels/Table of Organization]

RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, WANTED TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK, UH, PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION, UH, AT THE LAST, UH, COUNCIL MEETING.

UH, BUT, UH, BEFORE I YIELD THE FLOOR TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION, UH, I DID WANNA DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATIONS, UH, CHARTS THAT ARE, UH, AT THE DIAS TONIGHT.

UM, WE AS STAFF WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT COUNCIL GAVE US TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE PRESENTING WAS, UH, AS ACCURATE AS WE COULD.

AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE CAME ACROSS, UH, A FEW THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO CLARIFY.

AND SO I WANT TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THOSE ITEMS, UH, BY, UH, THE, UH, THE COLOR CODED CHART.

THIS IS THE CHART THAT IS CURRENTLY WITHIN, UH, THE PACKET TONIGHT, ABSENT THE COLOR CODES.

UH, AND I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT, UH, THAT THOSE ITEMS IN YELLOW, UM, THESE ARE VACANT POSITIONS.

AND BASED ON OUR KEY, UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS CHART, THEY SHOULD BE OUTLINED IN DOTTED LINES INDICATING THAT THEY ARE VACANT.

SO WE WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION, UH, TO THE FACT THAT ON DECEMBER 12TH IN THAT PACKET, THOSE BOXES THAT ARE COLORED YELLOW, THEY WON'T BE COLORED YELLOW IN THE DECEMBER 12TH CHART.

BUT WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT THOSE BOXES WILL NOW BE OUTLINED AND DOTTED LINES, NOT STRAIGHT LINES.

SO WE WANT IT TO BE AS ACCURATE AS WE COULD.

UH, SO I WANNA CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT.

THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE NOTICED, UH, IS TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE CHART, WHICH IS THE ORANGE BOX FOR THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHY THAT DUPLICATED, BUT THAT IS A DUPLICATED POSITION.

THAT'S WHY WE COLOR IT AN ORANGE.

UH, AND THAT WILL NOT APPEAR ON THE CHART AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO HAVE TWO VERSIONS OF KAI ON STAFF, UM, THAT IS NOT, UH, THE DESIRE WISH OF COUNSEL, UH, NOR DO WE NEED THAT POSITION.

SO, UH, FOR THE CHART THAT WILL APPEAR IN THE PACKET, UH, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL HAVE THAT POSITION ABSENT.

SO, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UH, ABOUT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR CHART.

AND WHILE WE COULD HAVE JUST WRITTEN THESE OFFICE SCRIBNER'S ERRORS, UH, BASED ON COUNSEL'S CONVERSATION AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, THE FACT THAT, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION IS CORRECT AND ACCURATE AS WE CAN, UH, WE WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT.

SO, IF YOU'LL NOTE, UH, THERE ARE DATES ON THE TOP OF THESE CHARTS.

THE COLORED ONE HAS DECEMBER 6TH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE CHART.

UH, AND THEN THE ONE THAT HAS THE DATE DECEMBER, UM, IS, UH, IS THE ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE, UH, ACTUAL COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING PACKET, UH, NEXT WEEK.

UH, BEYOND THAT, UM, TO COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TALK WITH, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE, THE MAJORITY OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, EITHER, UH, DIRECTLY AFTER THE MEETING OR IN SOME CAPACITY, UH, FOLLOWING LAST, UH, COUNSEL'S LAST DISCUSSION, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO TRY AND ADDRESS MANY OF THE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, UH, THAT YOU ALL HAD.

UM, HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON ANY OF THOSE.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE FROM THAT CONVERSATION.

UH, AND, AND HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY OF, UH, COUNSEL'S DIALOGUE, DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THE YORK CHART, BRIAN.

APPRECIATE THAT.

AS I'M SURE EVERYONE ELSE DOES, UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE ELSE HAS REGARDING THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION AT YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, BRIAN, I NOTICED THAT THE PARKS AND REC POSITION IS STILL IN THERE.

IS IT STILL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THAT INTO THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICES, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT? IT IS STILL MY RECOMMENDATION TO DO THAT, SIR.

YES.

OKAY.

UM, I WAS TOLD THAT THAT MOVING, UM, THE PARKS TECH TO A PARKS MANAGER FROM PARKS MANAGER TO A PARKS TECHNICIAN WAS DUE TO AN ISSUE WITH THE PERSONNEL IN THAT POSITION.

WAS THAT TRUE? UH, SIR, I'M NOT AT LIBERTY TO TALK ABOUT THOSE PARTICULAR MATTERS IN THIS FORUM.

AS I'VE STATED PUBLICLY, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I HAVE MADE IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO, UH, OPERATIONAL FUNCTIONS.

UH, THAT WILL CHANGE IN LIGHT OF, UM, THE Y M C A, UH, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND STEPPING UP, UH, THOSE SERVICES, UH, THAT THEY OFFER TO THE CITY, UH, AS WELL AS HAVING ADDITIONAL STAFF AVAILABLE, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE OPERATIONS, UH, OF THE CITY, AND HOW THEY RELATE TO SUPPORTING, UH, THE PARTS AND RECREATION

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OKAY.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANSWER CORRECTLY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

I JU SORRY, MY, MY APOLOGIES, BUT I THINK I JUST DID ANSWER THAT QUESTION WELL, YEAH, BUT I'D LIKE TO NARROW IT DOWN TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE WAY I AM.

UM, NOT ANY DETAIL, JUST IN GENERAL, SO I, YOU'RE NOT GONNA ADDRESS THAT, SIR.

I'VE ALREADY STATED PUBLICLY WHY I'VE MADE MY RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

AND NOT IN, NOT GONNA ADDRESS THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION EITHER, SIR.

I'VE ALREADY STATED PUBLICLY WHY I'VE MADE MY RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, MAYOR, UM, YOU CAN COUNT ME AS A, UM, WHAT IS THAT? UH, OBJECTION TO THIS.

I'M NOT SUPPORTING THIS.

OKAY.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? YES.

NEEDED DO.

WHEN ARE YOU HAVING THE MEETING WITH THE Y M C A ABOUT PROGRAMMING? DID, UM, I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD STATED TO ME.

WE MET ACTUALLY, UH, TODAY.

WE MET ACTUALLY TODAY.

OKAY.

DID YOU GET THE ANSWERS ABOUT MEMBERSHIPS, IF WE USED THEM FOR PROGRAMMING THE, THE CONTENT OF TODAY'S CONVERSATION? LET ME PULL THIS UP.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE CLIFFS NOTES VERSION OF TODAY'S MEETING, UH, HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, THE Y M C A COMMUNITY CENTERED RENTAL.

UH, THEY ARE BEGINNING, UH, TO ROLL, ROLL OUT SOFTWARE EFFECTIVE ON JANUARY 9TH THAT WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO UTILIZE QR CODES TO RESERVE, UM, SHELTERS, UH, THROUGH THE CITY.

AND SO THE THOUGHT WAS THAT, UH, FOLKS COULD U THEN UTILIZE A QR CODE TO ALSO RENT, UH, THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE, UM, THE RENTAL, UH, OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, THROUGH THAT SOFTWARE PACKAGE.

UH, AND THEN WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE WOULD WORK TO FACILITATE THAT, MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THE APPROPRIATE ACCESS CODES AND INFORMATION ARE AVAILABLE TO THE END USERS, MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THE FACILITY IS CLEAN AND AVAILABLE FOR USERS, THAT THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE TABLES AND CHAIRS OR WHATEVER, UH, THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. SO WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, BEING IN A POSITION TO DO THAT.

UM, THEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, Y M C A ACTIVITY PROGRAMMING.

UH, AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, WAS BEGINNING A CONVERSATION AND STARTING DOWN THE PATH FOR A GREATER PRESENCE OF THE Y AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

A NUMBER OF, UM, OUR SENIORS ALSO PARTICIPATE AT THE Y AND A NUMBER OF THEIR ACTIVITIES.

UH, THERE'S CURRENTLY A MODEL DOWN IN COLE RAIN TOWNSHIP, WHERE THE CITY PROVIDES, EXCUSE ME, THE TOWNSHIP OF COLERAIN PROVIDES A STAFF PERSON, UH, AT THAT FACILITY, WHICH WE ALREADY DO HERE.

UH, BUT THAT THE Y M C ACTUALLY HANDLES PROGRAMMING, UM, IN ALMOST ALL CAPACITIES AT THE COLRAIN TOWNSHIP, UH, FACILITY.

SO THE CONCEPT WAS TO DO SOME MORE INVESTIGATION ABOUT THAT, UH, PARTICULAR ARRANGEMENT, AND SEE HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD AN AGREEMENT, AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT, TO ALLOW THE Y M C A TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, SENIOR, UM, PROGRAMMING AT OUR FACILITY, UM, UH, BOTH AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION, AND THEN TO GROW THAT AT THE NEW LOCATION IN 2025, PLUS OR MINUS.

UH, WE HAD, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT PROGRAMMING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

UH, PROGRAMMING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER WOULD INCLUDE A COUPLE OF CONCEPTS.

UM, MR. LINMAN THOUGHT THAT THE FACILITY SET ITSELF UP APPROPRIATELY FOR, UH, DAY CAMP, SUMMER DAY CAMP.

UH, AND HE THOUGHT THAT, UH, THE UTILIZATION OF THAT FACILITY AS A DAY CAMP TO INCLUDE, UH, SUMMER, UH, PARK AND REC SPORTS, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, AS WELL AS A, UH, FEEDING PROGRAM, UH, THAT THOSE, UH, WOULD ALL QUALIFY, UH, FOR, UH, SUPPORT FUNDING THROUGH OUR OPIOID, UH, REVENUES THAT ARE COMING TO US FROM THE STATE.

UH, SO THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO SUPPORT THAT.

UH, HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT UTILIZING THAT AS A VEHICLE.

HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT UTILIZING THE COMMUNITY CENTER AS A VEHICLE TO, UH, PROVIDE Y M C A SERVICES SOUTH OF 70, UH, TO REACH MORE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, AND SO HE IS LOOKING AT WAYS THAT, UH, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING IN GROUP EXERCISE CLASSES AND OTHER AMENITIES, UH, THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE.

UH, IN THE FALL, WINTER, AND EARLY SPRING, UH, HE CONSIDERED THE FACILITY TO QUOTE, BE A BLANK CANVAS, END QUOTE.

UM, AND THAT, UH, I HAD ASKED HIM TO BEGIN, UH, TO TALK WITH HIS FOLKS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD BE IN A POSITION TO ACTUALLY OFFER A SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM EFFECTIVE THIS

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SO THAT'S, UH, WHAT HE'S LOOKING TO DO THERE AT THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY.

UH, THERE IS THE, UH, LEGO SUMMER CAMP, UM, THAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO, UH, THAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE.

UH, AND, UH, THIS APPEARS TO ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, THE Y M C A TO BE ABLE TO SUPERVISE THAT PROGRAM.

I BELIEVE IT'S A WEEK LONG, UH, PROGRAM, UH, FROM PIXELATED, SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT PROGRAM AS WELL.

UH, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THEN WE TALKED ABOUT AN ABILITY TO, UH, HAVE THE WHY, UH, PROVIDE SUPPORT, NOT THE LEAD, UH, POSITION, BUT TO STEP UP SUPPORT, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, CONCERTS AT THE IKE AND THE SUMMER MOVIE SERIES.

UH, TRANSITIONING TO, UH, A GENERAL FOCUS, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.

UH, HE CITED CONVERSATIONS THAT HE HAD HAD WITH, UH, WITH MR. KING ABOUT, UH, NOT NECESSARILY PROLIFERATING EVENTS THAT ARE BEING, UH, PROVIDED BY THE, UH, THE COMMISSION, BUT ACTUALLY HONING THOSE AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT EVENTS THEY ARE DOING ARE NOT, UH, OF QUALITY, BUT, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT OF QUANTITY, BUT OF QUALITY.

SO THAT WAS THE NATURE OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, UH, BETWEEN MYSELF AND MR. LINMAN.

SO YOU DIDN'T GET INTO THE WHOLE, YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE PROVIDING FUNDS AND PUTTING ON A POSITION THAT THE HUBER RESIDENTS GET, IF THERE'S A PROGRAM FEE THAT WE GET A LOWER FEE VERSUS SOMEBODY THAT COMES FROM VANDALIA, LIKE KETTERING REC DOES.

SURE.

SO THOSE, THERE'S A RESIDENCY FEE VERSUS A, SO THOSE WOULD ALL BE THINGS THAT GET FLUSHED OUT DOWN THE LINE AS WE GO.

BUT AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THE IDEA IS TO START THE DISCUSSION AND START CHECKING OFF BOXES.

SO, UH, CAN WE MEET LICENSING REQUIREMENTS? CAN WE MEET PERSONNEL REQUIREMENTS? ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET, UH, HANDICAPS, ACCESS'S ABILITY, RESTROOM STALL, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO AS WE CHECK DOWN THAT LIST, THERE WILL BE A POINT IN TIME WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THINGS COST AND WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THOSE COSTS.

SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, UH, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

SO, WHETHER OR NOT, FOR INSTANCE, THE OPIOID MONEY, UH, THAT'S AVAILABLE MIGHT COVER THE FULL COST OF THE PROGRAM.

THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION.

THERE MIGHT BE OTHER FEDERAL OR STATE GRANTS THAT COVER THAT PROGRAM.

UM, SO THERE MIGHT NOT NEED TO BE FEE STRUCTURES.

WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE A FEE STRUCTURE.

WE MIGHT NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A TIERED FEE STRUCTURE.

SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT, BUT THAT'S SEVERAL WEEKS, IF NOT MONTHS AWAY FROM WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT.

BUT THE IDEA WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHERE WE THOUGHT THE CITY AND THE WISE RELATIONSHIP SHOULD BE, WHAT WE THOUGHT THAT SHOULD BE GOING FORWARD, HOW WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY, AND TO KIND OF GET THAT ROLLING.

SO, UM, UH, MR. LIMAN HAS TO, TO GO TALK WITH HIS FOLKS ABOUT OUR CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD, THAT THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH, UH, SOME OF THESE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND THE TIMELINES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND THEN AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE, THE COST AND, AND KIND OF THE, UM, WE'LL START TO PUT THE DEVIL INTO DETAIL, SO TO SPEAK, AS, AS WE GET CLOSER TO, UH, TO H HOUR D DAY.