[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO CITY HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
TODAY'S DATE IS NUMBER SEVENTH, 2022.
IT IS 6:00 PM WE'RE GETTING STARTED.
MR. ROGERS, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? MR. SHAW? HERE.
MR. CAMPBELL? MRS. VERGE? HERE.
[2. Approval of Minutes]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.THERE'S TWO SETS OF MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 18TH, 2022.
ITEM TWO B IS THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2022, UH, JOINT MEETING MINUTES THAT WE HAD WITH THE HE HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOL BOARD.
SO THOSE MINUTES HAVE ALL BEEN DISTRIBUTED.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, OR CHANGES, THOSE MENTAL WILL STANDARDS APPROVED ANYONE.
OKAY, THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS APPROVED.
NEXT IS ITEM THREE, WHICH IS OUR WORK SESSION.
UH, WE'VE GOT A DECENT AGENDA THIS EVENING, SO,
[ City Manager Report]
UH, WE'LL GET US STARTED OFF WITH ITEM THREE A, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORT.BRIAN, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? I'M GOOD, SIR.
HOW ABOUT YOURSELF? VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
UH, A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR, UH, COUNCIL IN THE COMMUNITY THIS EVENING.
UH, FIRST WANNA MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT, UH, WE ARE FINISHING UP SIDEWALK ON BELL FOUNTAIN IN FRONT OF THE OAKS.
UH, THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT'S KIND OF BEEN HANGING OUT THERE THAT, UH, WE'RE WRAPPING UP.
I ALSO WANNA MAKE FOLKS AWARE THAT, UH, THE CITY HAS BEEN TALKING WITH, UH, WILPERT STRAND AND BURGESS AND N ENGINEERING ABOUT ACCESSING MONIES FROM THE, UM, BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LEGISLATION.
UH, ALL THREE FIRMS HAVE CONFIRMED THE CITY WILL NEED A, UH, CITYWIDE TRAFFIC SAFETY STUDY, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY QUOTING THAT WORK, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UH, ALSO WANNA LET, UH, COUNCIL KNOW THAT STAFF IS FINISHED REVIEWING, UH, PROPOSALS ON A, UH, FACILITY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
UH, AND IT IS THE INTENT OF THE ENGINEER TO HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR COUNCIL TO ADOPT, UH, FOR THAT SERVICE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, SPEAKING OF THE ENGINEER, I WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UM, AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING IS BEING PLANNED FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE 2023 WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
UH, THAT, UH, UH, MEETING IS ANTICIPATED TO BE HERE AT 6:00 PM ON DECEMBER 5TH.
UH, THOSE DIRECTLY IMPACTED WILL BE RECEIVING AN INVITATION, UH, VIA US MAIL HERE, UH, IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
UH, ALSO WANNA MAKE COUNSEL AWARE THAT, UH, ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27TH, EXCUSE ME, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27TH, I HAD A, UH, OUTSTANDING MEETING WITH OUR PARTNER AT THE Y UH, CHRIS LINEMAN.
UH, AND HE AND I HAVE BEGUN DISCUSSING WAYS THAT WE CAN BRING, UH, WHY PROGRAMMING DIRECTLY TO THE SENIOR CENTER AND TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO, WE'LL BE MEETING, UH, AGAIN IN DECEMBER, UH, TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE BEST WAYS TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT.
AND ALSO, UH, WANNA BRING THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT ON NOVEMBER 3RD, UH, CHIEF KNISELY WAS INFORMED THAT THE CITY DID RECEIVE A GRANT, UH, FROM THE STATE OF OHIO, UH, FOR THE EMPLOYMENT OF A FIREFIGHTER AND A CAPTAIN.
UH, THIS IS, UM, A DISBURSEMENT OF ARPA FUNDS THAT THE STATE WAS PROVIDED.
UM, AND THE GOVERNOR DID SELECT THE CITY TO RECEIVE THAT.
THE TOTAL AWARD IS JUST NORTH OF $547,000.
AND WE'LL FUND THOSE POSITIONS FOR NOT LESS THAN TWO YEARS.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE, UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME.
BRIAN, DO WE EVER GET THE FINAL FIGURES IN ON THE ROSE? UH, I DO NOT HAVE THOSE YET.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE FINISHING CALCULATING THOSE, BUT THIS WOULD BE ABOUT THE TIME.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE, UH, YET THIS MONTH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, MOVING ON.
[ Parks And Recreation Board Update]
WE HAVE ITEM THREE B, WHICH IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD UPDATE, AND WE HAVE MR. KING HERE WITH US THIS EVENING, UH, TO PRESENT THAT UPDATE TO COUNSEL.VINCE, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.
SO I HAVE A FEW SLIDES TO SHOW TODAY, AND, UM, THIS WILL BE A VERY POSITIVE CONVERSATION, POSITIVE UPDATE.
UM, AND I HAVE SOME NUMBERS THAT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN BAKER WANTED AS WELL.
SO HERE, THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
UM, THE FUNCTION, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR, PRIORITY LIST PROGRAMMING, PROJECTED PROGRAMMING FOR 23, OUR BUDGET.
AND THEN, UM, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED ON THE 2023 CALENDAR? OKAY, SO AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, UM, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT OUR FUNCTION, UM, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN I WAS LAST HERE, UM, I MENTIONED THAT ACCORDING TO THE CITY, UM, OUR CHARTER, UM, STATES THAT WE ARE A RECOMMENDED AND ADVISORY BODY.
SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY PUT ON PROGRAMS. HOWEVER, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES
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TO THAT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE FOR, UM, THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO AT LEAST HOST ONE SPECIFIC EVENT PER YEAR.AND THAT ONE SPECIFIC EVENT IS EARTH DAY, BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT DOING THE SECOND THING AS SOMETHING IN THE FALL.
UM, WHICH, UM, WE PARTNERED WITH, UM, JOSH KING, THE PARKS MANAGER ON, WHICH IS THE FALL FAMILY FEST THAT WE PUT ON.
THAT WENT VERY WELL THIS YEAR, SO I JUST WANTED TO ADVISE EVERYONE OF THAT.
UH, THIS SLIDE HERE TALKS ABOUT OUR 2022 ACTIONS, UM, OR OUR ACTION ITEMS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, ANNUALLY WE ARE SUPPOSED TO REVIEW AND, AND APPROVE OR MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, UM, TO THE PARKS AND FACILITY PROCEDURE.
UM, PLAN, UH, WE LOOKED AT THAT THIS YEAR, MADE NO CHANGES.
THAT'S THE DOCUMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE FEES FOR THE SPORTS FIELDS, ESPECIALLY THOSE DOWN IN THOMAS CLOUD PARK.
UM, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER FINANCIAL ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SPECIFICALLY WHEN RENTING FACILITIES DOWN THERE.
UM, SO WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES.
WE THINK WE THOUGHT THE PRICES WERE FAIR, UM, STILL, BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE, BUT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THEM EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK NEXT YEAR IS, UM, IT'S MOST LIKELY FOCUSED ON WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND GAIN BACK FROM THE RENTALS AS WELL.
UM, THE MEMORIAL BENCH AND TREE PROGRAM, UM, WE ARE FINALLY ABOUT TO KICK THAT OFF.
UM, SO THE BOARD APPROVED THE APPLICATION.
THERE WAS ONE CHANGE THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE, AND THAT WAS ADDING ON SPECIFICALLY, UM, WHERE, UM, THE PARK, WHICH THE FAMILY OR THE DONOR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT TREE AND OR BENCH, UM, PLACED.
UM, WITH THIS PROGRAM, UM, MOST OF THE COST, IF NOT ALL, WILL BE INCURRED BY THE INDIVIDUAL PURCHASING THE TREE OR THE, UM, THE TREE OR THE BENCH, SIMILAR TO WHAT, UM, WHAT WAS DONE DOWN AT, SORRY, THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL AS WELL.
UM, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM HERE IS THE, UM, TREE MEDALLION.
IT'S ACTUALLY A MEDALLION THAT'LL WRAP AROUND THE TREE.
SO AS THE TREE GROWS THAT, UM, THE STRING AROUND THE TREE WILL GROW AROUND THE STRING AS WELL.
SO THAT'LL BE A PRETTY GOOD PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE THE RULES AND SOME OF THE OTHER BACKGROUND STUFF ARE WITH, UM, THE CITY NOW TO LOOK AT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL GOOD, UM, WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT IT'S LEGAL.
SO, UM, BUT I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT, UM, WE DID MANAGE TO GET THAT ONE GOING WHILE AT LEAST STARTED, INITIATED THERE.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE LIST IS THE PRIORITY LIST, AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.
BUT, UM, WE DID A, WE DID MODIFY OUR 2021 LIST AND WE HAVE A TOP FIVE, UM, ON THAT.
SO WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS FROM OUR 21, THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE DOW ALONG FOR, UM, THOSE ITEMS ARE STILL OPEN.
UM, WE WERE ASKED TO DO A TOWN HALL SPECIFICALLY FOR BOTH THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND, AND DO LONGFORD AREA PARTS.
UM, SO WE DID THE TOWN HALL FOR THE DOW AND LONGFORD LEARNED A LOT ABOUT WHAT THE RESIDENTS THAT SPECIFICALLY BORDER, UM, THAT GREEN SPACE, UM, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WHAT THEY DON'T WANNA SEE.
AND WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING WAS ASKING FOR A RENDERING, UM, TO SEE WHAT THE POTENTIAL COULD BE.
UM, FOLKS DON'T WANT IT TO BE TOO BUSY.
UM, THEY DON'T MIND HAVING THINGS LIKE A PLAYGROUND OR, AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME OBJECTIONS THAT HAVEN'T.
SO WE'RE, UM, WE'VE ASKED TO GET A RENDERING OF WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO IN THAT GREEN SPACE THERE.
UM, CUZ WE THINK THAT A SMALL PLAYGROUND, UM, AND A WALKING PATH AROUND THE GREEN SPACE WOULD BE GOOD AND BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE'S WELLNESS WITHIN, WITHIN THE AREA.
SPECIFICALLY WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, WE HAVE NOT HOSTED THAT TOWN HALL YET, THAT IS IN THE WORKS.
I AM CURRENTLY WORKING ON, I'M SORRY, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A SURVEY, UM, WITH THAT.
AND WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THE CITY WEBSITE TO HELP PUSH THAT OUT.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL, UH, SPECIFICALLY SEND CARDS OUT TO THOSE THAT LIVE WITHIN THAT RADIUS, UM, TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON, SPECIFICALLY GET MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OVER THERE.
WE KNOW WE NEED TO ADD IN THE PLAYGROUND, UM, AND WE NEED TO RESURFACE THE BASKETBALL COURSE, BUT WE ALSO WANNA GET SOME INPUT ON WHAT ELSE THEY WANNA SEE ALSO.
AND WE, WHEN WE'RE AT THE BALD FEST, FALL FAMILY FEST, UM, TWO WEEKS AGO, UM, WE DID A SMALL SURVEY.
I DID A SMALL VERBAL SURVEY AS WELL, AND FOLKS WANTED TO SEE MORE PROGRAMMING DOWN THERE AS WELL AS A PLAYGROUND ALSO.
SO, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT SORT OF FALLS IN LINE WHAT WE, WHAT WE WERE ALREADY THINKING, BUT MORE TO COME ON THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
AND THEN, UM, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL FOR, UM, THE FALLS CREEK PARK RENAMING.
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UM, SO, UM, THAT DATE SHOULD BE OCTOBER AND NOT NOVEMBER.UM, BUT, UM, WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT WENT AHEAD AND MOVED FORWARD AND COUNSEL DID THE PROCLAMATION AND AS WELL AS, I THINK THE SIGN WAS UNBILLED ON ONE NOVEMBER.
UM, I WAS OUTTA TOWN, SO, UM, BUT, UM, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IS CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD.
OKAY, SO THIS LIST HERE IS OUR PRIORITY LIST RECOMMENDATION.
SOME OF THE THINGS WERE ADDED AND OR MOVED UP ON WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD BEFORE, BUT THE ONLY THINGS I'M REALLY GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY ARE THE TOP FIVE, AND THEN ONE OTHER ITEM THAT'S LISTED BELOW.
UM, SO THE BOARD FELT THERE WAS A NEED AND AN IMMEDIATE NEED ACTUALLY TO REDO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
UM, WHEN I WENT DOWN, UH, TODAY, UM, THE COURT TO BASICALLY UNUSABLE, UM, THERE ARE TONS OF CRACKS.
UM, IN THE CENTER OF ONE COURT, THERE'S A HUGE SQUARE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN DUG UP OR THE GROUND HAS BROKEN, SO IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY REDONE FROM SCRATCH.
UM, SO THAT IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY THERE.
WE KNOW, WE KNOW IT'S LISTED ON THE SIP, BUT WE WANT TO LIST IT ON OUR, UM, PRIORITY LIST SO THAT WAY COUNCIL CAN MAKE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION AND COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.
WE STILL WANNA ADD BASKETBALL COURTS TO, TO THE NORTH OF 70, AND WE'RE THINKING, UM, NEAR THE AQUATIC CENTER, UM, BECAUSE NONE EXIST UP THERE, NOT IN THE PARTS EXIST.
YOU MIGHT SEE SOME AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, UM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN A PARK.
SO WE'RE THINKING UP THERE, UM, ADDING A FITNESS PAD OR A CIRCUIT COURT, UM, FITNESS EQUIPMENT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE MIDDLE OR TO THE NORTH OF CITY AS WELL.
UM, AND THOSE CAN BE EITHER SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE DOWN AT THOMAS CALLED PARK OR SOMETHING THAT'S A BIG SQUARE WHERE WE HAVE, UM, EQUIPMENT WHERE FOLKS CAN JUST LIFT THEIR OWN BODY WEIGHT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ESPECIALLY THE ADULTS.
UM, OF COURSE, AT A PLAYGROUND TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHEN WE REACTIVATED THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE ACTUALLY TORE OUT THE OLD ONE THAT WAS IN THE BACK.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S THERE NOW ARE BASKETBALL COURTS, AND I BELIEVE IT'S MONKEY BARS.
SO WE WANNA ADD SOMETHING THERE IN FRONT OF, UM, THE BASKETBALL COURTS, SO THAT WAY IF IT'S JUST, UM, UM, KIDS OVER THERE AND SMALL CHILDREN AND NO ADULT, THEY'RE AT LEAST ABLE TO SEE EACH OTHER AND KEEP, NOT KEEP AN EYE ON EACH OTHER.
UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO ADD WALKING TRAILS AT COTTONWOOD PARK.
WE KNOW THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT, BUT WE THINK THAT, UM, ADDING SOMETHING THERE WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE ADULTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE, THAT LIVE AROUND THERE.
UM, AND WHEN THE, I GUESS WHEN THE PARK ISN'T BEING USED FOR SOFTBALL, IT'LL BE A GOOD ADDITION AS WELL.
AND PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE WALKING TRAILS AT EVERY PARK.
AND SO, UM, SO YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE WALKING TRAILS COMING IN LINE SOMEWHERE.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, UM, CONTINUE TO ADD MODERN TECHNOLOGY TO THE PARTS.
THAT'S NOT OUR TOP FIVE, BUT WE WANT, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT ON THE LIST.
UM, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH CHRIS.
CHRIS HAS A GREAT PLAN FOR 2023.
UM, SO HE'S GONNA MOVE TO A ELECTRONIC SYSTEM FOR RESERVATIONS, UH, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO DO QR CODES.
SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, GO DOWN TO THE SHELTERS, SCAN THE QR CODES, SEE IF THAT SHELTER IS AVAILABLE.
IF NOT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, NO, I'M SORRY.
IF IT IS, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, RESERVE IT ELECTRONICALLY, UM, AND SEE THE ENTIRE SCHEDULE SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING GOOD COMING THERE.
BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OTHER THINGS ADDED.
SO, UM, I DID SOME RESEARCH AND THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED A SOFA BENCH, WHICH IS BASICALLY A CHARGING, IT'S A BENCH FOR THE CHARGING STOLE CHARGING STATION.
UM, SO IF FOLKS ARE AT A PARK WATCHING THEIR KIDS PLAY, YOU KNOW, UM, LET'S SAY PLAY, UH, SOCCER, BASEBALL, FOOTBALL OR WHATEVER, THEY AT LEAST HAVE SOMEWHERE TO CHARGE THEIR PHONES IN.
OR IF THEY'RE TIRED AND JUST NEED TO TAKE A BREAK, THEY CAN, UM, CHARGE THEIR PHONES AS WELL.
SO THAT WAS OUR TOP FIVE PLUS ONE.
THE OTHER ITEMS ON THE LIST DID NOT, DIDN'T NECESSARILY MOVE, UM, BUT THEY REMAIN ON THE LIST AS WELL.
UM, SO WE, WE ALWAYS WANTED TO ADD ANOTHER BATHROOM TO THOMAS CLUB PARK, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ADD ONE TO THE COMMUNITY PARK AS WELL.
BUT THAT COMES WITH, UM, SOME CONSIDERATION FROM COUNCIL.
UM, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ONE AT, UM, COMMUNITY PARK, SO, UM, BUT WE STILL THINK WITH FOOTBALL BEING AS ACTIVE AS IT IS AND WITH THE, UM, REPAYMENT OR, UM, REPAYMENT OF, UH, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, AND AS THAT GETS ACTIVE, WE'RE GONNA NEED A HARDENED FACILITY, UM, FOR THAT.
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SO HERE IS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION INSTALLATION FOR 2022.SOME OF THE THINGS, THINGS WERE DONE, STARTED AND INITIATED IN 2021, BUT ALSO HAD THEM UNDER 2022.
SO WE HAD THE, UH, REPLACEMENT OF THE PLAYGROUND AT CHARLES HUBER COMMUNITY PARK, WHICH LOOKS FANTASTIC.
WE ESTIMATE THAT THE WHEELCHAIR SWING WILL BE INSTALLED SOMETIME IN DECEMBER, WHICH IS WHAT I'M HOPING
UM, SO THAT'LL BE A GREAT ADDITION.
THAT'LL BE THE FIRST ONE FOR THE CITY.
AND I THINK IT'S THE THIRD ONE, UM, IN THE STATE, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, BUT IT'LL BE, WE'RE HIGH UP ON THE LIST THERE.
UM, THE PLAYGROUND AT EEL BERGER LOOKS GREAT.
UM, THAT WAS A GREAT ADDITION, WAS USED A LOT DURING THE FARMER'S MARKET ESPECIALLY, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE KIDS WERE LEAVING SOCCER, PARENTS WOULD BRING THEM OVER, PARENTS WOULD SHOP, KIDS WOULD BE ON THE, UM, ON THE PLAYGROUND OVER THERE.
SO THAT WAS A FANTASTIC ADDITION.
UM, THE BIKE AND SKATE PARK AT MONITA FIELD, WE STILL HAVE SOME THINGS BEING DONE THERE, UM, BUT, UM, WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PARK IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER, UM, AS WE MAKE MORE ADDITIONS TO THAT FUTURE INSTALLATIONS, OF COURSE, WE'RE WAITING ON A DIAL AND LONGFORD AREA FOR THOSE POTENTIAL AMENITIES, COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, FOR THAT.
AND THEN, UH, JOSH KING, THE PARKS MANAGER, IS ALSO WORKING ON A PLAYGROUND AUDIT OR A PARK AUDIT AS WELL.
SO THAT SHOULD GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO FIX, UM, IMMEDIATELY AND SHOULD HELP US PRIORITIZE SOME OF THAT.
OKAY, THIS IS AN EYE CHART, SO SORRY FOR THE SMALL WRITING HERE, BUT, UH, WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU HERE SPECIFICALLY TO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DID, UM, IN 2022, ANYTHING WITH AN ASTERISK? UM, I'M GONNA SAY THEY WERE LED BY CITY STAFF AND SUPPORTED BY THE PARKS AND BOARD AND OR, UM, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE OTHER BOARDS AS WELL.
THE BIKE AND SKATE PARK GRAND OPENING.
WE, WE HAD A SOFT OPENING IN 2021, A BIGGER ONE IN 2022.
WELL, NOT A BIGGER ONE, I'M SORRY, THE BIGGEST, UM, WE HAD ANOTHER ONE IN 2022.
UM, WE HAD ABOUT PROBABLY AROUND A HUNDRED FOLKS IN ATTENDANCE.
AND THEN THE VOLUNTEER VALUE HERE, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALL, UM, HOW MUCH OR THE VALUE THAT YOUR VOLUNTEERS, UM, PROVIDE YOU WHEN THEY COME OUT AND THEY SERVE IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY DO THINGS LIKE THIS FOR THE CITY.
SO SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS ONE HERE, UM, THE BIKE PARK, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 27 HOURS FOR THAT, AND THAT WAS THREE VOL.
UH, THAT WAS, UM, FORGOT HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS THAT WAS, BUT WE HAD ABOUT 27 HOURS THAT DAY.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S MOSTLY YOUR CITY VOLUNTEERS, ESPECI AND SOME OTHER COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS AS WELL.
FOR EARTH DAY, WE HAD ABOUT 65 FOLKS COME OUT AND THO THAT 65, UM, THE WAY, UM, WE STRUCTURED THAT EVENT, EVERY PERSON THAT CAME WAS A VOLUNTEER BECAUSE WE HAD THEM GO OUT AND PICK UP TRASH AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT WAS OUT AT, UH, THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
THAT'S ONE EVENT THAT WE THINK WAS GREAT.
WE'RE GONNA TRY AND EXPAND THAT SOME MORE THIS YEAR AND DO SOME ORIENTING AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
BUT WE THINK HELPING, UM, OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY AT OUR YOUTH, BETTER UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT, WHAT IT MEANS, WHAT EARTH DAY MEANS, AND HOW THEY CAN HELP, HELP US HOPEFULLY TO TRY AND REDUCE SOME OF THE LITTER IN, IN THE, IN THE PARTS, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET HERE, UM, OUR AVERAGE ATTENDANCE WAS ABOUT 340, UM, AND THAT'S GOING PER WEEK.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST AN AVERAGE OVERALL.
OVERALL, WE HAD ABOUT 7,000 VISITORS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SUMMER, AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE FOUR DAYS WHERE WE HAD TO, UM, CLOSE THE FARMER'S MARKET DUE TO THE LOVELY HIGH WINDS OR THE STORMS THAT CAME THROUGH.
SO, UM, AND THIS IS OUR, THIS WAS OUR THIRD YEAR HERE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT VALUE FROM YOUR VOLUNTEERS WAS ABOUT $12,000.
UM, AND WITH THAT AS WELL, WE ALSO HAD FOUR STUDENTS.
UM, THREE, I BELIEVE I KNOW FOR SURE TWO WENT TO WAYNE.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE, UM, WHERE THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOL, UM, STUDENT WENT TO, BUT WE HAD, UM, FOUR, THREE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND ONE, I THINK SHE'S IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UM, THE MUSIC SERIES, UM, THAT AUDIENCE VARIES BASED ON THE, THE GENRE OF MUSIC THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAD SOME THAT HAD VERY FEW PEOPLE, SOME THAT WERE PACKED.
SO I WOULD URGE THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL TO CONTINUE PUSHING, UM, THOSE, UM, THAT SPECIFIC TYPE OF ACTIVITY UP AT THE EEL BERGER, IT'S VERY POPULAR.
UH, WE HAVE SOME FREQUENT PLIERS.
UM, WE SEE THE FREQUENT PLIERS BOTH AT THE FARMER'S MARKET AND AT THE
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MUSIC SERIES.THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FORWARD, WHEN'S THE NEXT CONCERT? WHO'S, WHO'S COMING, WHAT SHOULD WE BRING? SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE SEED TWO, CONTINUE DOING THAT AND SUPPORTING THAT AND FUNDING THAT.
UM, THE LAST EVENT WAS THE FAMILY, UH, WAS THE FALL FAMILY FEST.
UM, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THIS WAS A, A VERY GOOD EVENT BECAUSE IT WAS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND FROM THE FOLKS THAT I DID SPEAK WITH, UM, A LOT OF THEM WERE FROM THE, THAT'S, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT AROUND THERE.
SO THEY WERE ABLE TO WALK OVER, ENJOY THE HOT DOGS, ENJOY THE BOUNCY HOUSE, THE CHALLENGE, UM, THE OTHER INFLATABLES, UM, AS WELL AS THE, UM, SEE THE PARKS BOARD HOSTED THE PUMPKIN PAINTING.
THE Y DID ANOTHER ARTS AND CRAFT.
WE HAD PRESCHOOL PROMISE, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
UM, I'M GONNA GET THIS WRONG, THEY WERE OUT THERE DOING A, UM, THEY HAD A MATCHING GANG AND THEY WERE, UM, TALKING TO FOLKS ABOUT THE 150TH ANNIVERSARY OF PAUL DUNBAR.
SO, WHICH IS, UM, WHICH IS A GOOD, UM, HISTORICAL LESSON FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, IN THE DAYTON AREA.
HERE ARE THE STATS FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.
UM, FARMER'S MARKET IS VERY, UM, IT'S VERY POPULAR.
AND AS I SAID BEFORE, WE HAD ABOUT 7,000, UH, VISITORS AND THIS CHART, WHICH YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SEE, UM, BUT EACH OF THIS IS A COMPARISON BETWEEN 21 AND 22.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT OVERALL, THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 340, UM, FOR US FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, SO WE HAD TWO DATES AT THE VERY END.
IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK, UM, IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD FIVE SATURDAYS.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL THIS YEAR, SO, WHICH IS WHY LAST YEAR THEY HAD TWO MORE DAYS THAN WE DID, UM, THIS YEAR.
BUT AGAIN, UM, THE FARMER'S MARKET IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL, UM, THE COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS TO COME OUT TO, TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY, UM, AND TO ALSO SPEAK TO SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR VISITORS AS WELL.
UM, WE'VE HAD VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK, GREAT CONVERSATIONS, AND WE LEARN A LOT ABOUT WHAT FOLKS LIKE TO SEE, WHAT THEY DON'T
BUT, UM, BUT OVERALL WE GET A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
SO THIS IS WHERE I SORT OF REVERSE IT A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US CONTINUING TO DO.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE ON HERE AND OTHER PROGRAMMING, UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO INTEGRATE THEIR MISSION INTO SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WE ARE ALREADY PUTTING ON WITHIN THE CITY.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO FOCUS ON QUALITY OVER QUANTITY.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING 20,000 EVENTS, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THE BOARDS HOSTING ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOSTING MULTIPLE, UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A STEP BACK AND WE'RE JUST GONNA TRY AND INTEGRATE IN SOME THINGS SPECIFICALLY THINGS LIKE THE STAR SPANGLED HEIGHT CELEBRATION, UM, LET'S SEE, THE MARI GOLD FESTIVAL WHERE WE, WHERE WE MAY HELP.
UM, BUT, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SETUP OF THE FOOD TRUCKS OR SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE CAN ALSO USE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP PROMOTE, UM, THE PARTS AND RECREATION, UM, PLAN, YOU KNOW, PLANNING AND ALL THAT.
SO WE WANNA DO THAT EARTH DAY IS ONE EVENT THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE HOSTING BECAUSE, UM, WE THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE.
UH, THEN WE CAN GROW THAT INTO SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS AS WELL.
UM, THE FARMER'S MARKET CONTINUE DOING THAT.
WELL, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT AND WE'RE HOPING THE CITY CONTINUES TO PUT THAT ON, UM, THE MUSIC SERIES.
AGAIN, WE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE, UM, SUPPORTING THAT.
UM, THE FALL FAMILY FEST, WE, THIS WAS OUR FIRST ONE THIS YEAR.
UM, AND, UH, AND WE DID HAVE, LET'S SEE, UM, CHERYL COME OUT FROM THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION, UM, COMMISSION AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITIZEN DIVERSITY, C D A FROM THE CITIZEN DIVERSITY AND ACTION COMMISSION COME OUT AS WELL.
SO, UM, SO WE WERE PROUD TO HAVE THEM COME OUT AND JOIN US FOR THAT EVENT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE AQUATIC CENTER, THE GREAT THINGS THAT SARAH AND UM, CHRIS ARE DOING WITH THE RADIO DAYS AND THE HOSTING THOSE, UM, RESIDENT ONLY DAYS, UM, ARE GREAT AND THEY'RE VERY POPULAR.
UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM CONTINUE DOING THAT AND WE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE PARTNERING WITH THE Y THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE Y HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE AND WE'VE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AS WELL.
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UM, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY HERE, THIS TALKS ABOUT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET.UM, SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD DID NOT SPEND ANY OF ITS MONEY ON ANY OF ITS PROGRAMS. OKAY.
UM, A LOT OF OUR MONEY WENT TO ERGO FESTIVAL, THE STAR SPANGLED, I STILL SPELLED IT WRONG, STAR SPANGLED HEIGHTS ON CELEBRATION AND THEN FLYERS.
SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS YEAR IS ACTUALLY DEVELOPING A BUDGET, UM, SO THAT WAY WE CAN, UM, UH, SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN SPEND OR HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED TO SPEND ON THOSE ITEMS, AND THEN HOW MUCH WE CAN GET AS PART OF A DONATION.
A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE HOSTED, UM, THE, THAT CAME OUT OF THE PARKS MANAGER'S BUDGET.
UM, BUT, AND THEN OTHER THINGS WERE ALSO DONATED, SO WE WORKED A LOT WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO GET THEM DONATED.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT WAS VERY, IT WENT VERY WELL.
SO FOR NEXT YEAR WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA WORK ON A BUDGET SPECIFICALLY FOR EARTH DAY.
UM, AND, UM, ANY OTHER PARK RELATED TYPE OF SUPPLIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE NEED, WE'RE HOPING THAT WHATEVER WE PURCHASE THAT WE CONTINUE TO REUSE THAT.
SO IT'S A ONE TIME PURCHASE, SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US DO THINGS LIKE, UM, HAVE A MOBILE, UM, DISC GOLF, UM, SO THAT WAY WE CAN TAKE IT AND GO WHEREVER WE NEED IT TO GO.
WE WANNA PROMOTE COMMUNITY PARK.
WE CAN TAKE THAT TO, UM, ANY OF OUR EVENTS AND SAY, OKAY, HERE, LET'S PLAY.
DID YOU LIKE THAT COMING OUT HERE? AND, YOU KNOW, GO OUT TO THIS PARK HERE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY PROMOTE THE PARTS.
AND THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE TODAY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? LET FIRST EVENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND REC ARE PRETTY NEAR AND DEAR TO ME, AND, UH, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING WITH PROGRAMMING AND UPGRADES.
UM, I WANNA KIND OF STEP BACK TO ONE OF THE SLIDES UP HERE THOUGH, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY BEING DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I'M THERE, I, I TRY TO FIND PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE OR WHO ARE OUT THERE TO ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK WOULD BE BEST DOWN THERE.
UM, I'M DOWN WITH THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
THE THING I HEAR THE MOST DOWN THERE IS RESURFACE THE BASKETBALL COURT.
GIVE US SOME DRINKING FOUNTAINS.
SO, SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS I THINK ARE GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
AND I REALLY DO WANT TO SEE THAT SPACE DEVELOPED BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT REALLY NEEDS IT.
UM, SECOND, UM, UH, DIAL PARK.
UM, I KNOW AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED ON DIAL PARK, UH, I KNOW I'VE BEEN PUSHING THAT ONE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, UM, FROM THE BEGINNING AND, AND I KEEP SAYING IT ALL, I REALLY WANNA SEE THERE ARE SOME SIMPLE AMENITIES, UH, SMALL PIECE PLAYGROUND TO EQUIPMENT, MAYBE A HALF BASKETBALL COURT AND A LITTLE COVERED PLACE TO, YOU KNOW, GO AND HANG OUT PICNIC OR WHATEVER.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I'M TRYING TO PROMOTE THERE AND, AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO TOUCH ON, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING I DON'T, I WAS DOWN THERE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THOUGH, BUT YOU MENTIONED TECHNOLOGY, LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY.
UM, I KNOW THAT IT CAN BE DONE, BUT CAN WE LOOK INTO, UH, HOW ARE THE, THE CITY APP, UM, THE PHONE APP, UM, COULD KIND OF WORK INTO THAT EQUATION A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW IT HAS A LOT OF FEATURES THAT COULD DO THINGS LIKE GEO TAGS AND, AND YOU KNOW, GEOREFERENCING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT'S THERE, WHAT'S AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT WORK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK THAT'S A NO COST THING.
IT'S MORE OF A TIME, TIME THING.
I, I BELIEVE SINCE THE APP'S ALREADY THERE, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD WORK.
BUT I'VE SEEN IT DEMONSTRATED, UM, WHEN WE WERE FIRST LOOKING AT THE APP.
SO, UM, THOSE, THOSE ARE MY ONLY COMMENTS.
UM, AGAIN, COMMUNITY CENTER, DIAL PARK, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME ACTION ON THOSE SOON, SOONER THAN LATER.
UM, BUT I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR INPUT AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE PARKS.
UM, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A TOWN HALL FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, AND INVITING THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COULD YOU ALSO INVITE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RENTED THERE? BECAUSE I'VE RENTED THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES.
I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE RENTED THERE, SO WE PROBABLY HAVE INPUT SINCE WE'VE RENTED.
SO WHAT WE WILL END UP DOING IS WE'LL DEFINITELY SEND, UM, INVITATIONS OUT TO, TO ANYONE THAT LIVES WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS.
UM, SO YOU'LL GET SOMETHING IN THE MAIL.
UM, AND THEN, UM, WE WILL ALSO MAKE A NOTIFICATION TO EVERYONE ELSE AS WELL.
UM, SO WE WANNA SPECIFICALLY MAKE SURE THAT THESE FOLKS GET CARDS, THOSE WHO WILL USE IT EVERY DAY.
BUT THOSE WHO RENT IT, THEY'RE DEFINITELY, THEY WILL DEFINITELY GET INVITES FOR IT.
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AND PIGGYBACKING ON GLEN, UM, THE OTHER THING I SEE IS THE SHELTER NEEDS SOME UPGRADING AND EVERYTHING.CUZ WHEN WE WERE THERE, WHEN WE HAD RENTED IT, IT WAS, IT JUST KIND OF LOOKED BAD AND JUST
SO THE OUTDOOR SHELTER THAT'S THERE, MAYBE DOING A LITTLE UPGRADING OR SOMETHING THERE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT, THIS IS GONNA BE A BAD STICKING POINT OF UPPING THE CHARGES.
I'M SORRY IF SOMEBODY'S HAVING A WEDDING RECEPTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE NEVER GONNA FIND ANYWHERE FOR $50.
SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND NOT CHARGING GIRL SCOUTS, BOY SCOUTS, COMMUNITY GROUP, STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING GRANDMA AND GRANDPA'S 50TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY THERE, $50 FOR THE DAY.
I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE EVENT.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, IS THE, UM, COMMUNITY, UM, COMMUNITY PARK.
IS THERE ANY WAY WHEN YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT EVEN SAYS IT'S MORE FOR FIVE AND UP, IF THERE'S EVER A CHANCE TO PUT JUST A SWING SET FOR LITTLE KIDS IN THERE.
I KNOW WHEN I'VE GONE THERE WITH GEMMA, THERE'S PEOPLE GOING, I WISH THIS WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE ACCOMMODATING.
YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS LIKE, MORE ACCOMMODATING FOR YOUNGER KIDS MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S MY OTHER THING IS POSSIBLY PUTTING, I MEAN, JUST SIMPLISTIC PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THERE.
I THINK, UM, WE ARE ALWAYS CONTINUING TO FIND WAYS TO, TO IMPROVE THE PARK.
SO WHEN WE SAY THAT IT'S FINISHED AND INSTALLED, IT'S NOT, IT, TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT.
CUZ WE CAN ALWAYS ADD AMENITIES.
UM, BUT WHEN WE DID OUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE, WE PUT IN THINGS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY INCLUSIVE, UM, AND THAT WERE FOR, THAT ANYONE CAN USE ALMOST.
SO WE COULD, WE WILL DEFINITELY GO BACK AND LOOK AT ADDING IN SWINGS, UM, INTO THAT.
UM, CUZ OUR OVERALL INTENT FOR ALL THE PLAYGROUNDS IS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, INCLUSIVE FOR EVERYONE.
SO I JUST HAVE FOUND FOUR YEAR OLDS JUST IF YOU GIVE 'EM A BASIC SLIDE AND SWINGS ARE HAPPY FOR HOURS.
UH, BUT THANKS FOR EVERYTHING VINCE.
ON, ON THAT NOTE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UM, BRIAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME.
I BELIEVE THAT THE STATE LAW REQUIRES NOW THAT ANY NEW PARKS THAT GO IN HAVE TO BE INCLUSIVE.
SO JUST SAY IT'S A SIMPLE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR LITTLE ONES, NOTHING SIMPLE ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD DO FOR A BASIC PLAYGROUND.
UM, AND, AND WITH RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ENTERED COMMUNITY CENTER, WE HAVE A LIST.
UM, I'D LIKE SOME INFORMATION ON PICKLEBALL.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAVEN'T HAD THAT COURT VERY LONG AND NOW YOU SAY IT'S DETERIORATED SO BADLY WE NEED TO REPLACE IT.
IT'S, SO IF YOU GO OVER THERE, UM, WHEN WE INITIALLY DID IT, IT WAS RESURFACED.
SO THEY PUT THE, THE SURFACE ON TOP OF THE OLD AGAINST BASKETBALL COURTS, WHATEVER.
SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE COURTS, IF YOU WERE ON THE INSIDE AND YOU WENT GO FOR A BACK SWING AND YOU WERE AT THE LINE, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD HIT THE FENCE.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THERE.
WELL THAT WAS THE INCORRECT BUILD, RIGHT? YES.
SO NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONCRETE, UM, THE COURT ITSELF, IT'S CRACKED.
I HAVE PHOTOS, UM, THERE'S ONE THAT THE CRACK IS ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE.
IT'S ABOUT THE SIDES OF THIS PODIUM HERE.
UM, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BULGING, IT'S BULGING, UM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY EXPOSED WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE GRAVEL AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THERE ARE AREAS THAT, UM, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND ANYONE PLAY ON IT.
UM, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY ONE COURT THAT'S PROBABLY USABLE, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T USE IT BECAUSE THE NETS ARE, THE NETS ARE UP CUZ OF THE WINTER.
WELL MY, OKAY, MY ONLY POINT WAS I HOPE THAT WHEN WE REBUILD IT, THAT WE TAKE ALL THESE PROBLEMS IN THE CONSIDERATION AND TRY TO AVOID 'EM IN THE FUTURE.
SO WHEN IT'S REBUILT, THE GOAL IS TO GROUND IT ALL DOWN AND PUT AND EXTEND IT OUT A LITTLE FURTHER AND THEN, UM, RESURFACE IT.
PUT IT, PUT BRAND NEW SURFACE DOWN AND EVERYTHING.
SO IT SHOULD BE A LOT BETTER THAN BEFORE.
UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU BASED OFF, BECAUSE I RAN, YOU KNOW, I DID MOST OF THEM, UM, BASED OFF OF A COMPARISON
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FROM LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, I WOULD SAY THE NUMBERS ARE GREATLY DOWN.UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF FOLKS COMING OUT.
THERE WERE SOME DAYS THERE WERE ZERO AND SOME DAYS I MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN TWO OR THREE, BUT I, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT.
BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT THE NUMBERS WERE LOW.
AND THE LAST ONE IS, UM, I, I'VE BEEN ASKED BY UH, UH, BY CITIZENS, BUT ALSO I'D LIKE TO SEE A LOW COST DISTANCE MARKERS ON OUR WALKING PATH.
YOU KNOW, THE ONES IN CLOUD, THE ONES AROUND THE DOG PARK, THE Y UH, SHOW, I MEAN, ANYWHERE WE'VE GOT NICE WALKING PATHS.
PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS WALKERS WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW FAR THEY'RE WALKING.
SO THAT IS ONE OF, ONE OF THE THINGS ON MY LIST, SOME OF THE PATHS, I THINK THE ONE AT THOMAS CALLED PART IS PROBABLY GONNA GET REDONE.
UM, SO WHEN THAT, WHEN THOSE DO HAPPEN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, THOSE MARKERS DOWN BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO, TO KNOW AS WELL.
UM, AND YES, I HAVE A LITTLE SHEET THAT TELLS ME HOW, WHAT THE DISTANCE IS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW FAR I'VE RUN AT THAT MOMENT.
SO YES, THAT IS ON THE, IT'S ON THE LIST OF WAYS TO IMPROVE THE PARTS.
IT SEEMS LIKE LOW HANGING FRUIT.
AND SO THAT EVERYONE DOES KNOW, I DO PLAN ON GOING TO THE FOOD SUMMIT ON THURSDAY, UM, AT SINCLAIR, CUZ THAT WOULD ALSO GIMME A LOT MORE INFORMATION FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET AS WELL.
I MEAN, WE HAVE THE SIGN SHOP, SO I MEAN, MAKING SOME METAL SIGNS TO, I REALIZE IT'S MORE POSTS INCREASE LANDSCAPING ISSUES, BUT IT WOULD SEEM, THAT'D BE, UM, I THINK LOW HANGING FRUIT TO, TO GET SOME SIGNS PUT UP AT THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE WHOLE TRACKING CLUB PARK MIGHT BE LIKE TWO MILES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, QUARTER MILE SIGN, SO YOU GOT EIGHT OF THEM, RIGHT? YEAH.
OVER A PERIOD OF THE, OVER A PERIOD OF A TWO MILE TRACK.
SO I COULD EVEN PUT IF MY MATH IS RIGHT IN THE GROUND ON THE, ON THE SIDE OF THE PATH.
JUST SOMETHING SO YOU CAN TRACK WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, VINCE, I WAS EXCITED TO SEE HERE TONIGHT AND I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, BECAUSE, UH, LIKE COUNCILMAN BURGE, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, POPPED MY INTEREST ON HERE, WHICH WAS THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
I WAS, UH, I WAS PRESENT AND, AND QUITE, UM, INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH MR. ALEX BLACK, UH, BACK IN 20 15, 20 16, UM, WHEN THIS COUNCIL AUTHORIZED, UH, US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT AND IF, IF MEMORY SERVES CORRECT, UH, WE AUTHORIZED ROUGHLY ABOUT 50 TO $55,000, UH, TO REDO THAT.
UM, THEN IT WAS, UH, NOTED THAT, UH, THERE WAS SOME ISSUES, SO WE HAD TO GO BACK AND MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS.
AND THEN IT WAS DETERMINED THAT EVEN AFTER THE INITIAL RESURFACING, THE INITIAL, UM, FENCE AND, AND, AND ALL THAT, UH, AND VINCE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT EVEN AFTER THAT, THE PICKABLE ASSOCIATION SAID THAT THEY STILL WEREN'T ABLE TO BE USED FOR TOURNAMENT USAGE.
AM I CORRECT? THAT PART I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, BUT, UM, BASED OFF OF, UM, SOME OF THE USERS AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK, UM, THE COURTS WERE USABLE.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE WERE AREAS WHERE THERE WAS FLOODING, THERE WAS NOT FLOODING, SORRY, STANDING WATER.
UM, OR IF YOU WERE ON THE INSIDE COURT AND YOU STEPPED BACK AND YOU WENT FOR A SWING, YOU COULDN'T GET YOUR FULL SWING IN, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HIT THE FENCE, UM, THAT WAS IN THE CENTER.
SO THAT DIDN'T GIVE YOU ENOUGH SPACE.
BUT IF YOU WERE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, YOU HAD PLENTY OF SPACE.
SO YOU WERE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WANTED TO START OFF ON THAT SIDE.
SO, UM, I THINK WHEN WE REDO IT AND WE EXTENDED, UM, THAT, UH, WE, WE NEED TO FIND THAT RIGHT BALANCE.
AND I THINK, UM, JOSH HAS, JOSH HAD COMMUNICATED TO US THAT HE'S, HE'S, HE'S FOUND THAT BALANCE AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THAT, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, THAT YOU ALL KNEW THAT THAT IS NUMBER ONE ON OUR LIST.
AND, UM, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO BE FUNDED IS TO GET THAT REDONE SO WE CAN TRULY ACTIVATE COMMUNITY PARK, UM, SPECIFICALLY THAT, THAT, UM, THOSE COURTS.
UM, BRIAN, A QUICK QUESTION ON THE PICKLEBALL COURT, AS THIS HAS BEEN A PRIORITY OF COUNSEL AND PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED, UM, WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DO YOU NEED FROM COUNSEL TO MOVE THIS PICK A BALL RESURFACING 2.0 FORWARD SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET USE OUT OF IT IN 2023? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED AS PART OF THE 2023 BUDGET, WHICH, UH, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR WILL BE REVIEWING WITH COUNCIL SHORTLY.
UM, AND, UH, VINCE, I, I DO, UH, APPRECIATE, UH, THE FEEDBACK, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, I KNOW A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, AND WE'LL BE, UH, DISCUSSING A LITTLE FURTHER IN DETAIL WITH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, UM, WILL BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND HOPEFULLY SOME, UH, SOLID
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MOVEMENT INTO, UH, 2023.UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, I WILL, UH, I WILL WITHHOLD SOME OF MY OTHER PART COMMENTS FOR SOME OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. MAYOR, THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, IT, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, VINCE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, EXCELLENT AS ALWAYS AND VERY INFORMATIVE.
UH, PLEASE PASS ALONG TO THE, UH, PARKS AND REC BOARD, UH, MY THANK YOU, UH, PERSONALLY FOR ALL THE WORK AND EFFORT THAT THEY'VE PUT IN LAST YEAR AND THEIR DEDICATION SERVICE.
THIS IS JUST THE KIND OF COMMUNICATION THAT, UH, COUNSEL NEEDS TO SEE FROM, UM, ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
UH, THIS INFORMATION IS VERY HELPFUL.
I WILL SAY THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH I AM NOT A PICKLE BALL PLAYER, I, YOU HAVE SOMEONE THEY CAN, THEY CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THAT
TWO PEOPLE I HUNG AROUND DOWN AT THE PICKLE BALL COURTS FOR A WHILE AND GOT TO SPEAK TO SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE DOWN THERE PLAYING.
UH, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, UH, ONE COUPLE THAT WAS THERE, UH, WAS FROM CENTERVILLE DOWN HERE PLAYING.
AND, UH, THEY BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT MR. SHAW BROUGHT UP AND THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT UP.
ONE BEING THAT THE FENCING IS FAR TOO CLOSE, UM, TO BE A USABLE, TRUE, USABLE PICKLEBALL COURT.
THEY ENJOY PLAYING THERE, BUT THEY POINTED OUT ALL THOSE THINGS, UH, THE, UM, GIGANTIC POTHOLE OR, UM, YES, GIVE IT, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, UM, TO WHERE THEY REALLY COULDN'T PLAY ON THE ONE QU.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT PICKLE BALL QUARTS ARE UP THE TOP OF THE LIST.
AND, UM, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WHEN WE PUT IT DOWN AND RESURFACE, I THINK WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE TOTAL PACKAGE OF MOVING THE FENCES OUT, MAKING IT, UM, A LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THEN LOOKED OVER AT THE BASKETBALL COURTS, IT ALSO APPEARED THAT THE BASKETBALL COURTS AT COMMUNITY PARK ARE IN FAIRLY SAD SHAPE.
SO IS THE RESURFACING GOING TO INCLUDE, UM, THE BASKETBALL COURTS AS WELL? UM, THAT I DO NOT KNOW.
I KNOW THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WERE, THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT, BUT, UM, MY ADVICE WOULD BE IF WE DO IT, DO IT, DO IT FOR ALL, DO THE WHOLE THING.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT MATERIAL.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF IT'S THE SAME MATERIAL OR DIFFERENT MATERIAL AT THE END OF THE DAY MM-HMM.
UM, BUT, UM, BUT YES, I DO AGREE THE BASKETBALL COURT NEEDS TO BE RE NEEDS TO BE RESURFACED.
UM, AND, UM, BUT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THEY WERE THE NEWEST THING THAT WE PUT IN.
THEY WERE, PEOPLE HAVE USED THEM, BUT THEY'RE LIKE IN THE WORST TO CONDITION THAT I'VE EVER SEEN THEM IN.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU MUCH, UH, AND THANKS TO YOUR BOARD.
SO AGAIN, UM, WE CAN ONLY MAKE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT COUNCIL'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT LATER AND THEN, UM, DECIDE ON WHAT, WHAT THEY WANNA FUND AND WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO FUND.
WE'LL ADD, WE, WE WILL ADD THOSE TOP FIVE, UM, ITEMS TO A FUTURE WORK SESSION.
AND THEN, UH, EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WILL GET THEIR, GET THEIR DUE DISCUSSION, SO TO SPEAK.
AND THEN COUNCIL CAN DECIDE HOW THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD ON THAT, ON, ON THAT TOP FIVE LIST.
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ITEM THREE C, WHICH IS NATURAL GAS AGGREGATION.UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE, UH, RICH SERVICE FROM, UH, ENERGY ALLIANCES HERE TO DISCUSS THE NATURAL GAS AGGREGATION, WHICH IF WE WANNA START A PROGRAM OR NOT, SIMILAR TO OUR ELECTRIC AGGREGATION.
YEAH, I THINK WE'D HAD A DISCUSSION, I THINK BACK WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, UH, ACTUAL ELECTRIC ENERGY AGGREGATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO INCLUDE GAS.
I THINK SOME OF THE TURMOIL, OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD AND PEOPLE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT GAS, UH, GAS PRICES WERE GONNA DO, OR, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW THAT WAS GONNA IMPACT OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE KNOW THAT AGGREGATION IS ALL, IS, YOU KNOW, IS ABOUT INITIATIVE THE SAME WAY THAT THE, UH, ELECTRIC AGGREGATION WAS, UH, IN THE PAST.
SO, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, A GENTLEMAN HERE TONIGHT TO, TO GO OVER THAT AND, UH, THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE, UH, I THINK IF, IF WE WANT TO PUT THIS ON A BALLOT INITIATIVE IN MAY, THEN WE'LL HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE ABOUT GETTING ALL THE LEGISLATION READY TO GO.
UH, AGAIN, I THINK PROBABLY SOMETIME BEGINNING PART OF FEBRUARY TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THAT, MEET THAT DEADLINE.
SO, UH, THIS WILL JUST KIND OF START THAT, START THAT PROCESS OFFICIALLY, UH, IF COUNCIL DECIDES THAT'S A DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GO.
AND, UH, KINDA LET US KNOW WHAT YOU GOT.
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UP IN, IN PREVIOUS, UH, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL, THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT NATURAL GAS, RIGHT? JUST LIKE YOU HAVE FOR THE ELECTRIC, UH, IT OBVIOUSLY HAS, UH, BENEFITED YOUR RESIDENCE AND I THINK IT WOULD, WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO, AT LEAST ON THE ELECTRIC SIDE MOVING FORWARD.SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH OBVIOUSLY JULIE FOR TOMORROW, RIGHT? SO YOUR NEXT CHANCE WOULD BE MAY OR EVEN, UH, NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, DEPENDING ON, UH, WHAT YOUR CYCLE HAPPENS TO BE.
UM, WHETHER YOU WANT TO CONSIDER NATURAL GAS, RIGHT? SO AS YOU HAD PUT IT MAY, IT'S A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS TO WHAT YOU DO FOR THE ELECTRIC.
IT DOES HAVE TO GO ONTO A BALLOT, UH, ASSUMING THAT IT WOULD PASS, YOU STILL WOULD'VE TO HAVE THE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS JUST LIKE YOU DID FOR THE ELECTRIC AND THEN STILL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER REGULATORY GATES.
UM, I THINK YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BY BY PUTTING IT ON THE BALLOT, YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST ASKING, RIGHT? BECAUSE JUST LIKE WITH THE ELECTRIC, ALL YOU'RE SAYING IS, DO YOU GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO EXPLORE THE IDEA OF HAVING A PROGRAM WHERE RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION AT ALL? UH, I WILL TELL YOU, THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH AROUND THE GREATER DAYTON AREA.
UH, BEAVER CREEK BEING ONE IS, UH, I DID, THEY CAME, AGAIN, THE, THE SITUATION OF OF DOING IT, I HAD WENT TO THEIR, THEIR MEETINGS AND WE HAD DECIDED ON SETTING IT OUT OR BELOW, BUT WHEN WE GOT PRICING BACK, IT WAS, IT WAS TOO TIGHT COMPARED TO WHERE, UH, CENTER POINTS PRICING WERE.
WE HAD, WE DECIDED NOT TO DO SOMETHING, BUT AT LEAST THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE PROCESS AND TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE.
I THINK AS YOU KNOW, UH, CENTER POINTS PRICES ARE VARIABLE.
SO AN AGGREGATION DOES OFFER THE POTENTIAL TO, TO FIX PRICES, GIVE SOME STABILITY, UH, TO THE RESIDENTS.
OBVIOUSLY THEY COULD DO IT ON THEIR OWN, BUT YOU COULD DO THIS AT, AT A LARGER SCALE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT THE PRICE IS SET IS, UH, CENTER POINT USES, UH, THE NYMEX GAS PRICE.
SO THAT'S THE, THE SORT OF THE MAIN INDEX HERE IN THE US AND THEY ADD A DOLLAR SEVEN TO THAT, AND THAT'S HOW THEY COME UP WITH THEIR PRICE.
IT GETS SET AT THE, AT THE END OF EVERY MONTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DO SEE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT DO HAVE A NIMEX PLUS ADDER TO THAT.
UM, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THAT UNLESS YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT THAT ADD IS GONNA BE LESS THAN WHAT CENTER POINT WOULD HAVE.
I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU WOULD DO
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I I DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BY DOING IT.
I, I, I KIND OF FINE WITH LIFE.
SO HAVING THAT OPTION TO POTENTIALLY BRING SOMETHING TO THE RESIDENTS, UH, IS NICE TO HAVE.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT TO CONSIDER.
AND THEN AS FAR AS TIMELINE, IF YOU WOULD PUT IT ON THE BALLOT IN MAY, UH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE CONSIDERATIONS TO LOOK AT FOR THE WINTER OF 23 INTO 24.
UM, IF YOU, UH, WAITED TO NOVEMBER OF 23 TO DO IT, LIKELY THE EARLIEST ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN WOULD BE THE SPRING OF 2024 AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE, THE FOLLOWING WINTER.
SO AGAIN, I, I THINK THE, IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT ON SOONER THAN LATER, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE MORE WINTERS YOU LIKELY CAN DO SOMETHING.
CUZ WE SEE HERE IN OHIO, UH, THE AVERAGE RESIDENT USES ROUGHLY, UH, 70% OF THEIR GAS BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND MARCH.
SO YOU, NOT THAT YOU DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE, THE SUMMER, BUT YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO LOCK IN THOSE FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS.
JAMES, THOSE ARE SOME OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE NATURAL GAS ION ON THEIR BALLOTS TOMORROW.
A VAN RIVERSIDE THAT I KNOW OF.
ANY QUESTIONS, ED? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
RICH, UM, DO YOU HAVE, NOT TONIGHT, BUT, UH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE UP TO DATE STATISTICS ON, UH, HOW MUCH, UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE CITY WERE PART OF OUR, UH, ENERGY AGGREGATION AND THEN, UH, POSSIBLE SAVINGS SINCE IT'S AN INCEPTION AND BROKEN DOWN, MAYBE BY EACH YEAR THAT IT'S HAD.
UM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING LIKE THAT BACK TO COUNCIL OR AT LEAST SEND IT TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER SO IT CAN BE DISTRIBUTED? I COULD, UH, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, GIVE ME UNTIL, UH, FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER FOR THAT, BECAUSE WITH THE LAST PROGRAM STARTING IN SEPTEMBER, WE'VE NOT RECEIVED THE DATA AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST MONTH OR TWO.
SO IF YOU GIMME, WE'LL SAY ONE MONTH FROM TODAY, I SHOULD HAVE DATA FOR THE FIRST, UH, AT LEAST FIRST MONTH OF THE, THE NEW PROGRAMS. WE'LL START TO KIND OF BUILD THAT IN AND SEE HOW THAT LOOKS.
BUT YES, THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN PROVIDE.
UM, I'LL GIVE YOU TO THE END OF THE YEAR.
YOU, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE A NICE GUY.
SO, YOU KNOW, END OF THE YEAR, CAUSE THAT'LL GIVE US ENOUGH, UH, INFORMATION WE CAN SINK OUR TEETH INTO.
UM, MAYOR, UH, I, I DO HAVE TO TOOT MY OWN HORN TODAY.
WHEN THE ENERGY AGGREGATION PROGRAM, UH, WAS, UH, DEVELOPED BY A PREVIOUS COUNCIL, UM, I HAD BROUGHT UP, UH, THE GAS AGGREGATION AND JUST DO IT AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THE COUNCIL, THROUGH THEIR WISDOM, DECIDED NOT TO DO GAS AT THE TIME.
IT WAS RECOMMENDED, AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT GAS WAS TOO VOLATILE AND THEY
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DIDN'T RECOMMEND ENTERING AN AGGREGATION PROGRAM.I SAID, HEY, IF WE'RE GONNA PUT IT TO THE BALLOT, UM, WE CAN HAVE IT AND CHOOSE NOT TO DO IT LATER ON, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS TODAY.
SO TO, I'M A VISIONARY, I, I JUST GOTTA SAY I, I'M A VISIONARY, BUT, UH, AS SEVERAL MEMBERS ON COUNCIL ARE AS WELL IN OTHER AREAS.
SO, BUT, UH, I CAN'T SPEAK ENOUGH ABOUT THE AGGREGATION PROGRAM THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE, THE SAVINGS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND I'D BE COMPLETELY SUPPORTING, UH, GAS AGGREGATION AS WELL, EVEN IF IT'S JUST TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE AND IF WE CAN SAVE THE RESIDENTS MONEY, UH, THAT'S DISPOSABLE INCOME.
THAT JUST HELPS THE RESIDENTS AND OUR ECONOMY AS WELL.
UH, AND UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS MIGHT BE A SERIOUS OPTION FOR COUNCIL AND I WOULD JUST HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR, OR COMMENTS? DON? THANKS, RICH.
UM, THE NATURAL GAS, UM, ENERGY AGGREGATION PROGRAM ARE THE DETAILS AS FAR AS OPT IN, OUT TO OUT, UM, EVERYTHING, UH, THE SAME OR SIMILAR AS THE ELECTRIC AGGREGATION? YEP.
YEAH, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO RUN IT EXACTLY SAME AS WE DO WITH THE ELECTRIC.
NO TERMINATION FEES, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO COME IN AND OUT, UH, AT ANY POINT.
I'D IMAGINE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO THE ENERGY AGGREGATION, THEY WOULD DO BOTH AND CALL THE DAY AND BE DONE WITH IT.
WITH THAT, I WOULD SAY I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN LYONS.
I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE ON THIS AND GET IT ON THE BALLOT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, IT'D BE NICE IF WE HAD IT DONE TODAY, SO WE COULD BE OFFERING THAT TO OUR RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU, ROSE, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY, ABOUT, UM, SO I KNOW WE'VE GOT ED AND DON SUPPORT MOVING THIS FORWARD.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS THEN TO PUTTING THIS ON, RICK? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM SEEING THIS, UH, MOVE FORWARD TO THE BALLOT.
UM, I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, ONE OF MY THOUGHTS WOULD BE THAT IS WHEN, UH, THIS WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO US, UM, 20 15, 20 16, THAT WE WOULD'VE DONE BOTH, AS MR. LY SAID, UH, I THINK THE VISION AT THAT TIME WOULD'VE HELPED US OUT AT THIS POINT, AND WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE MOVING ON THAT NOW.
SO RICH, UH, THANK, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THE ENERGY AGGREGATION SIDE.
UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO THE SAME, UM, COLLABORATION ON THE GAS AGGREGATION SIDE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE THAT LEGISLATION, UH, BALLOT READY BY THE NEXT, BY BUN'S COUNCIL MEETING.
SO, UH, WE WILL GIVE US SOME TIME, UM, PROBABLY THE FOLLOWING WORK SESSION.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION THEN, AND THEN, AND THEN HAVE IT AT THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING AS LONG AS THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS TO, TO MOVING FORWARD AND HAVING THE LEGISLATION PREPARED FOR, FOR THE NATURAL GAS AGGREGATION.
I, I DID WANNA SAY THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMED AS THOUGH WE WERE LATE IN THE GAME JUMPING ON ELECTRIC AGGREGATION, MANY RESIDENTS HAVE COME FORWARD TO SAY THANK YOU, THAT, UH, AT LEAST WE WERE ABLE TO LOCK IN SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE RATE THAT THEY WERE GETTING BEAT OVER THE HEAD WITH.
SO, YEAH, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF PIVOT, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T SEE IT GETTING ANY BETTER.
UM, SO I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S CHANGED, UH, ON THE ELECTRIC SIDE SINCE I WAS LAST HERE.
SO WE KNEW THAT AES DID ONE AUCTION A YEAR IN MAY, AND WE, WE EITHER LUCKY OR WE WERE NOT, UH, I THINK BECAUSE OF HOW BAD THINGS WENT FOR THEM THIS YEAR, THEY ACTUALLY ARE GONNA RUN TWO NOW.
THEY'RE GONNA RUN ONE IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN THE, THE ONE IN, UH, THE ONE IN MARCH, AS THEY, THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE, UH, THREE OF THE FOUR UTILITIES HAVE RUN AUCTIONS ALREADY THIS UPCOMING YEAR, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, NOT ONE OF 'EM HAS BEEN ANY LESS THAN AN 11 AND A HALF CENTS YET.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, WITH AES AS BEING ROUGHLY THREE WEEKS AWAY, TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AWAY, UM, I DON'T SEE THEM DOING ANY BETTER.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE IDEA OF THE 8, 5 9 THAT WE HAVE FOR THE ELECTRIC NOW IS, IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT RESIDENTS THROUGH, THROUGH MAY WHEN THEY, UH, PLANNING YEAR STARTS AGAIN AND THEN, AND THEN WELL INTO NEXT YEAR.
SO, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NICE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY, SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL JUST LOOK TO HAVING, UH, PREPARED LEGISLATION FOR BALLOT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING, UH, WE HAVE LANGUAGE, SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE OR NEED, WE WE COULD SHARE WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER COMMUNI AND PASS IT BACK.
YOU COULD SHARE THAT AND LARGELY MIRROR THE LEGISLATION THAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY.
PERMIT FILING DEADLINE IS THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY FOR THE MAY BALLOT.
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THAT TO THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS BY THAT DATE, THEN THAT ALLOWS, UH, FOR IT TO BE ON THE MAY, 2023 VALLEY.[ Veolia Water - Contract Modification - 2023 Capital Projects]
AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 3D, WHICH IS THE VEOLIA WATER CONTRACT MODIFICATION, UH, FOR 2023 CAPITAL PROJECTS.UH, WHAT THIS IS, IS, UH, YEARLY LEGISLATION THAT, UH, I DO ABOUT THIS TIME EVERY YEAR.
AND IT'S AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT, UH, FOR MODIFICATION TO VEOLIA'S CONTRACT AND TO INCREASE THE CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR NEXT YEAR BY $737,000.
UH, THIS INCREASES TO COVER THE COST OF ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND EXPENSES THROUGH OUT NEXT YEAR.
UH, IN YOUR PACKET, I DID GIVE A LIST OF ALL THE WATER AND SEWER ITEMS THAT ARE NEED OF REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT, MOSTLY AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
UH, BUT AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH OF THOSE, THERE'S A FEW ITEMS THAT, UH, FOR WATER AND SEWER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
UM, THIS LIST IS PUT TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE PAST THIS PAST YEAR BY THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT MANAGER AND THE DISTRIBUTION MANAGER TO COVER, UH, NON-EMERGENCY ITEMS. UH, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE SOME MONEY TO COVER SOME UNKNOWN EMERGENCY ITEMS FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE OVER THE $7,500, UM, MAINTENANCE CAP MAXIMUM THAT, UH, IS ALLOWED THROUGH THROUGH VEOLIA.
UM, THE REASON WE DO THIS LEGISLATION IS SO THAT ALL THESE ITEMS ARE COVERED.
UH, WE GET POS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR IT ALL, ALL THROUGH THE YEAR.
UH, THE COST OF THESE ITEMS IS FROM THE WATER AND SANITARY FUNDS, AND IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR'S.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONE? OKAY.
[ Huber Heights Softball Baseball Association - Lease Amendment - Sports Fields]
HAVE ITEM THREE E, WHICH IS THE HE HEIGHTS, SOFTBALL, UH, BASEBALL ASSOCIATION, THE LEASE AMENDMENT FOR SPORTS FIELDS.WHEN, UH, THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION WAS IN BEFORE COUNCIL, UH, PREVIOUSLY REQUESTING TO LEASE THE FIELDS AT, UH, TOM CLOUD AND MONITA, UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER PARTY AT THAT TIME THAT WAS INTERESTED IN UTILIZING FIELD ONE.
SO WHEN THE CITY ENTERED INTO THE LEASE WITH SOFTBALL FIELD, ONE WAS ABSENT FROM THAT LIST.
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT TIME, THE OTHER INTERESTED PARTY NO LONGER USES FIELD ONE, NOR DO THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN UTILIZING FIELD ONE.
AND SOFTBALL HAS ASKED THAT, THAT BE INCLUDED IN THEIR LEASE.
AND THIS LEGISLATION IS BROUGHT FORTH TO APPROVE THAT REQUEST.
SO THIS IS THE LEASE AMENDMENT TO ADD SOFTBALL TO FIELD ONE AT CLUB PARK? UH, THAT IS CORRECT.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, BRIAN, I, I KNOW BACK IN SEPTEMBER WHEN, UH, SEPTEMBER OF 2021, WHEN WE WERE INITIALLY DISCUSSING THIS LEASE AGREEMENT, UM, THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS AT THAT TIME REGARDING, UH, FIELD UPGRADES, UM, THAT, UM, JOSH KING HAD WENT INTO, UM, VERY DILIGENT RESEARCH ON FROM MANITA FIELDS.
UM, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THOSE UPGRADES AND RESURFACING, AND WILL WE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SAME, I GUESS, LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, NO PUN INTENDED FOR, UH, FIELD ONE DOWN AT CLOUD PARK? UH, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, ALL OF THE WORK THAT WAS CONTRACTED FOR THE FIELD IMPROVEMENTS IS DONE IN COMPLETE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION.
HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY NOW TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS AT MONITA AND ALL OF THE FIELDS AT, UM, TOM CLOUD, UH, EXCLUDING FIELD ONE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY STARTED UTILIZING AND MAINTAINING FIELD ONE, UH, BECAUSE THE OTHER PARTY IS NO LONGER ON IT.
AND THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A MOVE TO PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT AND ENSURE THAT AS THEY CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THAT FIELD, UH, AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT FIELD, THAT THEIR ORGANIZATION WILL BENEFIT FROM THOSE.
I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE AND SOFTBALL, UM, WAS MAKING SURE THAT THEIR ASSETS WERE PROTECTED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY OBJECTION, SMOOTH THIS AMENDMENT ONTO MONDAY'S MEETING.
[ Horizon Line - Development Agreement - Executive Boulevard/State Route 201]
YOU.NEXT IS ITEM THREE F, WHICH IS THE HORIZON LINE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD IN STATE ROUTE 2 0 1.
UH, AS COUNSEL IS WELL AWARE, THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH A HORIZON LINE FOR THE LAST, UH, YEAR PLUS TO TRY AND BRING TO, UH, BRING TO FRUITION A PROJECT AT THE INTERSECTION OF BRANT AND BURKHART THAT MEETS EVERYONE'S SATISFACTION.
UH, WE FEEL THAT WE WERE AT THAT POINT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BRAND EXECUTIVE
BRAND EXECUTIVE, UM, PULL THE MAP.
NOT QUITE SURE WHY THAT CAME OUT OF MY MOUTH, BUT YES.
BRAND EXECUTIVE, MY APOLOGIES.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BERKHART ENGINEERING ON ANOTHER PROJECT, UH, IN ANY EVENT, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION OF BRANT AND EXECUTIVE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UH, NOW FINALLY RESEMBLES SOMETHING I THINK MEETS, UH, THE INTERESTS
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OF THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL.UH, THIS PROJECT, UH, NOW HAS AN ESTIMATED VALUE UPON COMPLETION OF 90 MILLION, WHICH IS ALMOST THREE TIMES.
UH, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT THAT WE LOOKED AT OVER A YEAR AGO.
UH, THIS WILL INCLUDE, UH, UH, 500 PLUS MARKET RATE, UH, APARTMENT UNITS AND ALSO INCLUDES ADDITIONAL ACREAGE NOW FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES.
UH, AS SUCH, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, ADOPT THIS MEASURE AT, UH, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN REGARDING THE, UH, HORIZON LINE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING ON TO MONDAY? OKAY, NEXT
[ 2023 Annual Legislation * Various Departments/Divisions - Various Vendors]
UP IS ITEM THREE G, WHICH IS A 2023 ANNUAL LEGISLATION.UH, WE HAVE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS AND VARIOUS VENDORS, AND THEN THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION, VARIOUS VENDORS FROM THAT AS WELL.
SO, UH, WOULD THIS BE MR. BELL? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBERS? I'M DOING QUITE WELL.
UM, EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT THE ONE THAT NORMALLY PUTS THIS TOGETHER, UM, UH, I DID, UH, ASSIST, UM, A VERY CAPABLE, UH, RACHEL AT OUR, UM, PERCEPTION DESK, UH, GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR ALL OF THE VENDORS, A VERY LENGTHY LIST.
UH, BUT AS, UM, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS, UH, WE BRING THIS TO YOU, UM, I THINK SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, WE USED TO BRING IT, UH, MORE EACH, EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD WOULD BRING THEIR OWN.
AND, UH, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE DECIDED, LET'S EVERYONE PUT IT TOGETHER IN ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
IT'S JUST, AND IT'S EASIER FOR FINANCE TO LOOK AT THIS WHENEVER PURCHASE ORDERS COME THROUGH.
THERE'S ALWAYS THAT $25,000 LIMIT.
UM, ONCE AN ITEM IS MORE THAN $25,000 FOR A SERVICE OR, UM, ANY PARTICULAR ITEM, UM, WE HAVE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL TO EXCEED THAT LIMIT.
AND SO WHAT THIS ANNUAL LEGISLATION DOES IS ALLOWS COUNSEL IN ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE INCREASES ABOVE 25,000 FOR THE VENDORS AND SERVICES THAT ARE LISTED ON THIS AGREEMENT.
SO WE'VE GOT TWO PUBLIC WORKS, DOES THEIR OWN, AND THEN THE REST ARE ALL OF THE OTHER, UM, DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ON HERE.
AND, UH, YOU'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE, UH, SEVERAL OF THE, UH, ITEMS THAT WE ALWAYS USE.
BURG OUR AUDITORS ARE ON HERE, UM, AE DAVID FOR UNIFORMS, GULLS FOR UNIFORMS, UM, UH, OF SOME, UM, UH, LANDSCAPING'S ON HERE.
UM, IT SEVERAL, IT, UM, UH, ITEMS AND, UM, AND OUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE IS ON HERE AS WELL.
SO, UM, I HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU FOR, UM, UM, CONSIDERATION ON MONDAY NIGHT.
AND, UH, I WOULD, UH, MAKE IT MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, UH, PASS BOTH OF THESE, UH, TWO RESOLUTIONS, UH, ON MONDAY NIGHT.
SO THAT IS, UH, SET UP FOR 2023.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR JIM REGARDING, UH, REGARDING THESE? OKAY.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING, UH, BOTH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION, THEN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ONTO MONDAY'S? UH, COUNSELS ME.
[ City Copier Lease]
UP IS ITEM THREE H, WHICH IS THE CITY COPIER LEASE.THIS, UH, LEGISLATION IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO ENTER INTO, UH, A CONTINUATION, I GUESS, UH, OF OUR, OUR LEASE WITH, UM, UH, PROSOURCE, UH, THE PROVIDER OF OUR CURRENT COPIER.
UH, THESE ARE, UH, MACHINES THAT ARE, UH, AT THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE, WHICH IS WHY THIS AGREEMENT IS HERE BEFORE COUNCIL.
UH, AND THIS WILL BE FOR A NEW SERIES OF, UH, UNITS, UH, UPDATED, UH, TO REFLECT, UH, THE NEW TERM OF THE LEASE.
WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, UH, ACT ON THIS LEGISLATION ON MONDAY.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING ON TO MONDAY? OKAY, NO OBJECTIONS.
[ City Fireworks Display Agreement]
NEXT IS ITEM THREE I, WHICH IS THE CITY FIREWORKS DISPLAY AGREEMENT.HOW ARE YOU SEE CHIEF? GOOD SEEING EVERYBODY.
UM, HAD THE FIREWORKS, UH, THIS WAS THE LAST YEAR OF THE, UH, LAST AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WITH ROSI FIREWORKS, UH, AFTER THE SHOW, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME FOLLOW UP WITH ROSI, UH, THEY EXPRESSED THAT, UH, UH, COST HAD GONE UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THEY, UH, OFFERED, THEY EXTENDED AN OFFER TO CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS FOR, UM, GUYS TO FACTOR IN THEIR COST INCREASE.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION THAT WE WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST, UH, SHOW, NOT A LONGER SHOW, BUT MORE ROBUST, UH, UM, SOME LARGER SHOWS OR SOME BIGGER THINGS DURING THE SHOW.
AND THEN ALSO IMPROVING THE FINALE, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIGGER.
AND SO, UH, ROSSI CAME UP WITH A PLAN, UH, FOR OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO, UH, LOCK OUR PRICES IN AT $50,000 FOR EACH THREE YEAR.
UM, AS FAR AS THE FIREWORKS GOES, AND THE DEMONSTRATOR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, UH, SOLD THE IDEA TO ME IS, IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME SHOOTER THAT WE'VE
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HAD, UH, FOR THE PAST, UH, FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.UH, HE'S, UH, HE RUNS AT A VERY TIGHT SHIP, VERY SAFE SHIP.
AND, UH, WHEN HE SAYS IT'S GONNA BE READY AT NINE O'CLOCK, IT'S READY AT NINE O'CLOCK, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN THROUGH THE YEAR SOMETIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WAITING A COUPLE MINUTES WHEN WE SAY THE SHOW SHOW STARTS AT 10, 10 0 5, 10 10 AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, WITH THE SAFETY AND THE, UH, PERFORMANCE THAT WE HAD, UH, I KNOW PERSONALLY WHEN YOU HEAR OTHER COMMUNITIES COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR FIREWORKS AND THEY SAY HUBER HEIGHTS HAD A REALLY GOOD SHOW, UM, THAT'S, I KIND OF THOUGHT TO BRING THAT FORWARD, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SECURE THEM FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
I
I THOUGHT, I REMEMBER HAVING THE DISCUSSION A FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT, UH, INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WERE GONNA SPEND ON THE FIREWORKS TO $50,000 WE DID.
AND THEN, AND I KNOW IT'S ONLY, BUT I GUESS IT'S JUST BEEN THE 35 THAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING.
NOW, I DO REMEMBER A DISCUSSION CUZ WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THAT INITIAL YEAR, I THOUGHT ABOUT, I REMEMBER RAISING IT, THAT THEY, THERE JUST WASN'T ENOUGH NOTICE, UM, FOR THEM TO GET THE, THE UP THE UPGRADED OR THE, THE MORE AMOUNT OF FIREWORKS.
BUT I'M LIKE, I THOUGHT FOR SURE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AND CONVERSATION.
SO, UM, I MEAN, I TALKED TO TONY, THERE WAS NO, THERE COULD FIND ANY LEGISLATION THAT WAS DONE.
NOTHING WAS, UH, OFFICIALLY VOTED ON.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE, HOW THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN OR WHERE WE DROPPED THE BALL ON THAT.
I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY HERE DID THAT, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE WHERE THAT WENT.
BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT NOW.
BUT I DO REMEMBER US HAVING THAT DISCUSSION MM-HMM.
AND, AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE FILES AND CHIEF ASHWORTH WAS THE ONE THAT WAS DEALING WITH THIS, UH, IN THE INITIAL STAGES OF THE CONTRACT, IT LOOKS LIKE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, KEITH, BUT, UH, LAST YEAR WE ATTEMPTED ON SHORT NOTE AS TO TRY TO GET THEM TO ADJUST THE FIREWORKS THING.
SHOWED, UH, AND THEY, IT WAS TOO LATE A NOTICE AND THERE WERE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES MM-HMM.
SO THIS WOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
SO I THINK HE, I MEAN, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, ROB WAS SITTING HERE TIME, I REMEMBER HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WITH, WITH ROB HERE, SO WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, IT WAS EVEN BEFORE IT WOULD'VE BEEN BEFORE JUST THIS, THIS LAST YEAR.
SO, UM, NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED, BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.
SO, UH, ANY ANY QUESTIONS OR, YEAH, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, I THINK, UH, TO YOUR POINT, UM, I REMEMBER DISCUSSION, UH, THAT WAS PART OF IT, AND THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT MAKING JULY 4TH, UH, UH, A MUCH BIGGER EVENT THAN JUST THE FIREWORKS AND TAKING, POTENTIALLY TAKING IT TO A COUPLE DAYS OR OVER THE WEEKEND.
SO, UM, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.
I DON'T THINK WE EVER ACTED ON IT.
UH, WE LOOKED AT THE CHAMBER OF RUNNING IT ONE YEAR, AND SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT, I THINK WE HAVE THAT INTEREST.
UH, JUST NEED TO WORK ON THAT.
BUT, UM, CHIEF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, JUST A COUPLE BASIC QUESTIONS.
UH, HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY WORKING? CURRENTLY WORKING, UH, WE HAVE 50 BEING PAID ACTIVE, ACTIVE PAYROLL, WHETHER TO DO WITH THIS DISCUSSION ON LEAVE OR WHATNOT.
WELL, THE LEAVE, THAT'S CERTAINLY A THING THAT, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT HAVE A GUY ON LEAVE TODAY.
I, I CAN'T ANSWER TO THE EXACT LEAVE.
BUT I HAVE 50, I HAVE 53 PEOPLE, I HAVE FOUR CONDITIONAL OFFERS OUT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE HAVE 53 ACTIVE PEOPLE AND WE HAVE FOUR CONDITIONAL OFFERS WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO GET THEIR PARAMEDIC CARD TO PASS THEIR PHYSICAL, THEIR PSYCHOLOGICAL, UH, PHYSICAL FITNESS AND DRUG TESTING.
I'D ASKED STAFF, UH, A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT HOW MANY WE HAD, AND, UH, THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT IT WAS 39 THAT WERE HIRED AND, UH, PAID.
THERE'S THEIR STATUS CURRENTLY NOT THAT IMPORTANT, BUT, UM, ON LEAVE OR NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING, BUT, UH, I THINK THE LAST TIME YOU AND I TALKED, WE WERE IN A MEETING WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND YOU SAID THAT WE HAD 38 AND ONE WAS CONTINGENT ON PASSING A PHYSICAL FITNESS TEST APRIL 10TH, AND THAT WAS A THIRD TIME AND WOULD BE FI DID THAT PERSON PASS OR DID THEY FAIL? NO, THEY, MATTER OF FACT, THEY QUIT DURING THE, UH, WE FOUND OUT AFTERWARDS, THEY QUIT DURING THE THIRD ATTEMPT THAT WE GAVE THEM.
UH, SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, WHEN YOU ASK ME FIREFIGHTERS, EVERYBODY IN OUR ORGANIZATION THAT I'M COUNTING, WHEN I SAY THOSE 50 NUMBERS, THAT'S FROM THE ENTRY LEVEL PERSON TO ME.
WE HAVE OUR, WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR AUTHORIZED IS.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT FIREFIGHTERS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 38 FIREFIGHTERS AND WE HAVE FOUR CONDITIONAL OFFERS OUT RIGHT NOW.
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OKAY.AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR GRANT.
UH, WE'RE GETTING ONE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC IN A FIRE CAPTAIN.
IS THAT GONNA BE ONE IN THE SAME POSITION OR IS THAT TWO SEPARATE POSITIONS? TWO SEPARATE POSITIONS.
THEY'RE GONNA PAY US FOR ONE CAPTAIN'S SALARY AND ONE FIREFIGHTER SALARY.
AND, UH, THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE CITY FIREWORKS DISPLAY IN JULY FOR JULY 4TH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DON? I'M GO.
THINK YOU ANITA, UH, CHIEF, I'VE GOT A, UM, A QUESTION THAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO ANSWER RIGHT AWAY.
I'D LIKE YOU TO NOODLE IT OVER A BIT AND SEE IF, UM, UH, WHAT I'M ASKING IS EVEN POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE A, UH, I'LL CALL IT THE SAFE ZONE THAT, UH, IS MARKED OFF, UH, AROUND THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY OR THE AREA YOU SET THEM OFF.
AND ONE ISSUE THAT'S BEEN CREATED IS THAT OUR VETERAN'S MEMORIAL IS WITHIN THAT SAFE ZONE.
SO WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU IS, IS THERE ANY WAY BY RELOCATING, MANEUVERING AROUND ANY WAY TO IN, TO CARVE THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL OUT OF THAT SAFE ZONE? AGAIN, I WON'T AN ASK FOR AN ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY A LOT OF RESIDENTS.
THEY WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO VISIT THE MEMORIAL DURING THE, UM, UH, WEEKEND.
BUT OF COURSE WITH THE FIREWORKS SET UP, THEY COULDN'T.
I WON'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT IT WAS ASKED BEFORE.
UM, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT, UH, WITH OUR SAFETY RECORD THAT WE HAVE THAT NO MATTER WHERE IT'S AT IN THE PARK, WE MAINTAIN THE SAME DISTANCES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS EVERYWHERE YOU MOVE, UH, ALL THE BOUNDARIES ARE GONNA CHANGE, BUT, UH, UM, UH, WITH ALL THE ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, THE BIG ACCIDENTS THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF DAYTON, UH, NO MATTER WHERE WE DO IT AND MANEUVER, THE SAFETY ZONES ARE CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO, UH, STICK TO.
I WOULDN'T ASK YOU TO COMPROMISE SAFETY.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL SAY IS, IS THAT WE ARE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF SHELLS BY DOING THIS.
NOW THE PARK IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TIED UP ANOTHER DAY.
WE'RE ADDING OVER A HALF A DAY OF LABOR.
AND SOME OF THOSE ARE THE BIG SHELLS.
SO THE N F P TELLS US FOR EVERY SHELL, YOU NEED SO MANY FEET.
NOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE MORE HAZARD, THAT YOU INCREASE THE SAFETY ZONE, BUT WE, WE ARE NOT DECREASING THE SAFETY OF OUR, UH, WE'RE NOT DECREASING THE RISK.
WE'RE INCREASING THE RISK BECAUSE THAT'S MORE SHELLS GETTING LOADED, MORE SHELLS GETTING LAUNCHED.
AND, UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL FACTOR ALL THAT IN AND I'LL WORK WITH BRIAN ON GETTING AN ANSWER.
AWESOME, CHIEF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANITA, I WAS JUST WANTING TO REITERATE IF WE COULD GO AFTER A SPONSOR TO SPONSOR THE FIREWORKS, POSSIBLY THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO RECOUP SOME OF THE 50,000.
I'M JUST SAYING IF WE COULD FIND, YOU KNOW, KROGERS, I KNOW SPONSORED KETTERINGS BEFORE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF WE COULD JUST FIND A CORPORATION THAT COULD POSSIBLY, KROGER DOES HAVE A SPONSORSHIP OBLIGATION IN THEIR CONTRACT AS WELL, UH, WITH THE AQUATIC CENTER.
SO THEY, THEY DO PROVIDE REVENUES FOR THAT, BUT WE ARE, EXCUSE ME, HAPPY TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUND THAT IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK IN THE PAST, UM, I THINK MARK HAD BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, THERE WAS SOME SPONSORSHIPS AT ONE TIME THAT HELPED COVER SOME OF THE EXPENSES OF THE FIREWORKS.
SO I THINK, YEAH, IF, IF WE KNOW THEY DID IT BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH SPECIFIC COMPANIES, BUT I KNOW WE'D HAVE GOT, I THINK WE DID HAVE SPONSORSHIPS IN THE PAST.
WE'VE HAD SOME SPONSORSHIPS IN THE PAST.
SO I DEFINITELY THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FORWARD IN, INTO THAT, UM, EVEN IF IT'S ENOUGH TO COVER THE COVER, THE, THE DIFFERENCE OF THE INCREASE THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT IT IS TRUE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE WE HAVE OUR FIREWORKS, JUST LIKE YOU TYPICALLY ALWAYS SEE THE, JUST COMMENTARY FROM PEOPLE ALL OVER THE, THE REGION, TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY'VE ENJOYED OUR FIREWORKS DISPLAY VERSUS A LOT OF OTHER PLACES.
SO I THINK WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT LEVEL OF, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY SET THE BAR PRETTY HIGH THAT I THINK PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING WHEN THEY COME TO, UH, OUR FIREWORKS DISPLAY.
AND I, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT DIMINISH.
UM, SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S GOOD, RICHARD.
IN REVIEWING SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT, UM, LONG TERM AGREEMENTS WITH ROZI, I'M SEEING, UH, TWO, THREE MULTI-YEAR
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DEALS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.IS THE, UH, THREE YEAR DEAL, UM, WITH ROZI THE BEST THAT, UH, THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT OUT? ARE THEY WILLING TO EXTEND TO A FOUR OR FIVE YEAR DEAL? NEVER, NEVER ASKED.
CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, UM, WE HAVE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ALWAYS ASK FOR MORE.
UM, I KNOW AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I LIKE TO GET THE BEST BANG FOR MY BUCK.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY FIREWORKS DISCUSSION.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, IF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT $50,000 FOR THREE YEARS, IF WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, $45,000 FOR FIVE YEARS, UM, I MEAN THAT SINKS US IN.
UH, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE EXPECTING OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, UM, OR EVEN AT THE $50,000 MARK.
I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT GIVES US SECURITY THAT GIVES YOU AND AND YOUR TEAM SECURITY TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE, UH, LONGER, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES WHEN WE HAVE 'EM.
AND I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED A MULTI-YEAR DEAL, WHICH WAS ONLY JUST, WELL, YEARS AGO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING THAT, UH, WE USED TO BE ON A YEAR BY YEAR SITUATION.
SO, UM, YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'D BE WORTH ASKING TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO, UH, CHIEF HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH HIM TO SEE ABOUT A LONGER TERM DEAL? OKAY.
YEAH, JUST, JUST SEE WHAT YOU CAN FIND OUT AND LET US KNOW.
[ 2023 City Employee Health Insurance]
UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE J, WHICH IS THE 2023 CITY EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE.AND, UH, MY GUESTS WOULD TELL ME THAT, UH, KATIE, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE,
GOOD MAYOR, COUNSEL, THIS IS ANNUAL LEGISLATION FOR THE CITY EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE.
UH, RENEWAL IS JANUARY 1ST, 2023.
SO STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR AGENT, MARSHA MCCLENNAN.
SO ANTHEM HAS COME BACK WITH A QUOTE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS 40% HIGHER THAN OUR CURRENT COST, WHICH ENDED UP BEING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE, ABOUT 40% OVER OUR CURRENT.
UM, SO LO AND BEHOLD, WE WENT OUT AND SHOPPED IT OUT.
SO WE HAVE COME BACK, UM, A COUPLE OF DECLINE, A COUPLE OF GIVEN QUOTES.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE AETNA HAS COME BACK WITH A QUOTE AND ITS INCREASE IS ONLY GONNA BE ABOUT $94,000 INCREASE.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH AETNA.
UM, THAT $94,000 INCREASE WILL INCLUDE BUNDLING OUR DENTAL AND VISION.
UM, SO WE GOT, THEY GAVE US A 6% AND THEN TOOK SO MUCH PERCENT OFF IF WE BUNDLED EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND BUNDLING THOSE TOGETHER.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHANGE FROM ANTHEM AND, UH, ANTHEM TO AETNA, AND THEN METLIFE WITH DENTAL VISION TO AETNA ALSO.
SO I THINK THAT'S A HUGE SAVINGS, NOT A SAVINGS CUZ IT'S STILL AN INCREASE.
UM, BUT IT'S A SMALLER INCREASE, UM, FOR ALL OF THAT.
SO THE BENEFITS ARE SIMILAR, IF NOT BETTER ON SOME ASPECTS OF IT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU ON MONDAY WITH RESOLUTION.
UM, AND SORRY, THERE'S NO RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING, BUT WE WERE STILL WORKING ON GETTING ALL THE SIMILAR BENEFITS TOGETHER AND, UM, FINALLY GOT THAT THIS AFTERNOON.
SO WE ARE GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD IF COUNCIL'S WISH IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AETNA FOR MEDICAL, DENTAL, AND VISION, KEEPING OUR LIFE INSURANCE WITH ONE AMERICA.
UM, AND THE RESOLUTION WILL INCLUDE A NOT WILL INCLUDE A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 3,700,000, UM, THAT INCLUDES THE INCREASE WITH, UM, AETNA AND TO FUND THE HSA AND HRA THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO ON THE CITY'S PORTION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO IT IS AN HSA? YES, WE HAVE AN OPTION OF BOTH.
SO THE EMPLOYEE CAN CHOOSE AN HSA OR AN HRA.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE NOW, IT'S A 94 AND NOW IT'S A 94,000 INCREASE.
[ Planning Services Contract - Community Planning Insights]
IS ITEM THREE K, WHICH IS THE PLANNING SERVICES CONTRACT FOR COMMUNITY PLANNING INSIGHTS.UH, WE ARE BRINGING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FORWARD FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
UM, WITH THE, UH, DEPARTURE OF SOME KEY MEMBERS OF STAFF LAST YEAR, UH, WE WERE, UH, FORCED TO, UH, IMPROV, IF YOU WILL, FOR SOME SERVICES, ONE BEING PLANNING.
UH, AND WE CAME ACROSS THE SERVICES OF AARON SORELL OVER AT, UH, COMMUNITY PLANNING INSIGHTS.
UH, THE WORK HE'S DONE FOR THE CITY, UH, OVER THE LAST 10 MONTHS, 11 MONTHS, UH, APPEARS TO MEET EVERYONE'S SATISFACTION.
UH, WE ENJOY HAVING HIM AROUND, UH, AND WE THINK THAT HE'S AN ADDED BENEFIT TO THE CITY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HE'S DOING FROM HIS CONSULTING PERSPECTIVE THAT HE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE.
AND SO WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNSEL AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT TO CONTINUE HIS SERVICES FOR 2023, AND THAT
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LEGISLATION WOULD BE BEFORE COUNSEL ON MONDAY EVENING.ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING FORWARD? I ASK A GOOD, GOOD QUESTION.
N UM, I WAS TRYING TO FIND WHAT THE, OKAY.
UM, IS IT THE INTENT TO CONTINUE, UH, LET ME REPHRASE.
IS IT THE INTENT NOT TO EVENTUALLY HIRE A PLANNER FOR THE CITY TO PERPETUALLY CONTRACT? I MEAN, I LOVE SARAH, UH, UH, WHAT AARON HAS DONE FOR US.
HE'S, HE'S VERY GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM.
WELL, I THINK, I MEAN, TO THIS POINT, THE COST BENEFIT IS ACTUALLY MO SO YOU KNOW, WE DID EXTEND AN OFFER, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
AND I THINK AARON WAS, UM, UH, JUST FROM, RATHER THAN BEING STRICTLY RELATED OR FULL-TIME WITH, WITH THE CITY, HE PREFERRED THE CONTRACT, UH, STILL WILLING TO DO ALL THE THINGS HE'S DONE.
I DON'T THINK I, I, I, IT'S PERSONALLY, I THINK OUR PLANNING HAS IMPROVED, UM, UM, TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE LAST, AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT QUESTIONING THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE GETTING, UH, AS A CONSULTANT CONTRACT THIS WAY ELIMINATES ALL THE EXTRA STUFF AND ALL THE, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COST BENEFIT IS OF CONTINUING ON A, ON A CONTRACT OR CONVERTING SOMEONE TO, UM, TO BEING A FULL-TIME COMPLAINER THAT WAY.
AND, AND TO, TO DATE, I THINK AARON'S SERVICES ARE, ARE WELL, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO REVIEW YEAH.
AND I'M, I'M, I'M NOT SURE, I THINK THE INTENT IS TO GET, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA USE THE TERM MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK
IT WORKS, BUT IN THIS CASE IT WORKS.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT IS THE BEST COST BENEFIT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE AARON IS GIVING US THAT RIGHT NOW.
I, I UNDERSTAND AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BEEF WITH HAVING AARON.
I THINK HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY HIM IS COST EFFECTIVE.
MY CONCERN IS, I GUESS IF HE WENT, IF HE DECIDED TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THEN AT THAT POINT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO LOOK FOR SOMEBODY.
BUT, UM, ARE THERE, I'D, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY HOURS THIS YEAR.
ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS IN HIS CONTRACT THAT, THAT WOULD SAY, IF HE DECIDES HE'S, HE NEEDS TO STOP, THAT HE WOULD CONTINUE TO, TO GIVE US TIME FOR, YOU KNOW? YEAH, CORRECT.
WE, UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE MODIFIED, UM, IN THIS CONTRACT, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT BASED ON OUR WORKING EXPERIENCE SO FAR.
SO, UM, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, HE ACTUALLY BILLS ON THE HOUR MM-HMM.
SO, UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY INCURRED COST-WISE TO DATE.
UH, AND THIS IS THE EXACT SAME RATE, UH, THAT HE'S CURRENTLY CHARGING US.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
UM, MS. BURGE ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE'VE INCURRED TO DATE, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, UM, UH, WE DID ASK THAT HE HAVE A, A DEFINITIVE DATE THAT HE'S HERE AT THE CITY, UH, SO WE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO HIM AS STAFF SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS, THAT OUR APPLICANTS CAN HAVE ACCESS TO HIM, UM, ON A FIXED DATE.
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHEN TO EXPECT HIM TO HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS READY.
UH, IN EXCHANGE, HE DID ASK TO HAVE A SPACE AVAILABLE FOR HIM, UM, WHILE HE'S HERE.
SO HE HAS A PLACE TO WORK ON OUR STUFF AND ALSO TO MEET WITH FOLKS RATHER THAN JUST KIND OF FLOATING AROUND THE BUILDING.
SO THOSE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD DONE.
AND THEN ALSO WE DID ASK FOR A 60 DAY NOTIFICATION WHEN HE, UM, UM, AFTER ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS AND HE DECIDED THAT HE WANTED TO REMAIN A CONTRACTOR, UH, WE DID ASK HIM FOR A 60 DAY NOTICE CLAUSE.
SO IF HE WERE TO TERMINATE, WE'VE GOT TIME TO GO OUT TO MARKET AND FIND, UH, GREAT A REPLACEMENT, WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER CONTRACTED FIRM OR, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD BE A DIRECT EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY.
YOU'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, ACTUALLY, UH, MORE OF A, A COMMENT, UH, TO COUNCILWOMAN BRIDGE'S, UH, STATEMENT.
UM, READING THROUGH THIS, UM, IT DOES APPEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS AN HOURLY BASIS, A HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR, UM, LOOKS LIKE IT BREAKS DOWN TO ABOUT, UH, 21 HOURS A WEEK.
HE'S REQUIRED TO BE HERE TWO DAYS A WEEK.
UM, AND FOR A TOTAL OF $110,000, UM, I, IT IS MY HOPE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR THAT ACTIVE PLANNER ROLE.
UM, I MEAN, WE ARE PAYING HIM, YOU KNOW, HALF OF A 40 HOUR WORK WEEK.
HE'S ONLY REQUIRED TO BE HERE TWO DAYS.
UM, THAT FULL-TIME PLANNER CAN BE HERE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE TIME THEY'RE MEETING WITH APPLICANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN DO A, UH, A GOOD PLANNER ROLE AT LESS THAN $220,000 A YEAR, UH, INCLUDING WORKSPACE.
ANYONE ELSE? DON? THANKS, MAYOR.
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IN THE SIMPLEST TERMS, ARE WE GETTING THE JOB DONE, UM, WITH AARON? YES, SIR.UM, ANY NEED FOR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL WITH REGARD TO PLANNING? UM, ARE YOU COMING UP SHORT IN ANY AREAS AT THIS POINT, SIR? NO.
UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE, WITH THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY.
[ Supplemental Appropriations]
NEXT WE HAVE ITEM THREE M I'M SORRY, THREE L SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS.UH, I HAVE BEFORE YOU JUST A COUPLE ITEMS, UM, OF, UH, URGENT NEED.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE SMALLEST ASK I'VE HAD THIS YEAR, UH, $10,000 NET, UH, IN TOTAL TO INCREASE THE BUDGET, UM, IN MY OWN DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE'RE HAVING SOME, UH, CHALLENGES, UH, IN HIRING, UM, UM, IN OUR TAX, UH, OFFICE.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERED FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE TO THE PUBLIC IN A REGULAR, UH, ONGOING NATURE.
UH, NOT ONLY FOR, UH, THE REST OF THIS YEAR, BUT, UH, EARLY NEXT YEAR.
UH, WE CURRENTLY ARE LOOKING FOR FOUR POSITIONS, AND SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL FIND SOME GOOD ONES.
UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'VE DONE, UH, TWO APPLICATIONS AND STILL, UH, STILL LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT, UH, RIGHT FIT FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.
BUT, UH, IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.
SO I, UH, TALKED TO, UH, CITY MANAGER, CHUCK KOWSKI, AND, UH, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION TO HIM, AND THIS OF COURSE, COMES FROM OUR INCOME TAX ADMINISTRATOR, ROBIN SMITH, UH, THAT WE HIRE, UM, TWO TEMPORARIES, UH, RIGHT NOW TO, UH, FROM A, A LOCAL TEMPORARY FIRM AND, UM, GET THEM TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS TAX RETURNS.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE GO THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS, IT'LL PROBABLY BE JANUARY BEFORE WE CAN GET, UH, ANY OF THOSE, UH, FOUR POSITIONS HIRED.
SO IN THE MEANTIME, WE'D LIKE TO SPEND $25,000 ON THAT.
UH, THERE IS SAVINGS FROM THOSE OPEN POSITIONS.
UH, SO I'M ASKING COUNSEL IF WE COULD, IF I COULD MOVE, UH, DOLLARS FROM THE PERSONNEL LINE ITEM IN TAX DOWN TO THE OPERATIONS, UH, SIDE.
SO I, I DON'T THINK WE'LL SPEND THE WHOLE 25,000, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE VERY MAXIMUM.
UH, IF SOMEONE WERE TO SAY, IF THESE TWO PEOPLE WERE TO START TOMORROW AND WE'RE NOT YET TO THAT POINT, WE'RE HOPING MAYBE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE TWO WOULD BE ABLE TO START.
AND, UH, AND THEN IN ADDITION, WITH THE RMS CAD PROJECT THAT THE POLICE STATION'S GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, BRANDON, OUR IT DIRECTOR, ASKED ME IF WE COULD ADD $10,000 FOR RADIO IP LICENSES THAT HE SAID THAT THEY HAD NOT ANTICIPATED IN, UH, THE START OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THEY NEED TO GET THOSE, UM, AND, UH, IN, IN PRETTY SHORT ORDER.
SO I THINK THEIR, THEIR GO LIVE DATE, BRIAN MIGHT KNOW THIS IS THE 15TH OF THIS MONTH.
IS, IS THAT NEXT WEEK CLOSE? I WANNA SAY THEY'VE PUSHED, THEY'VE PUSHED IT BACK, UH, AS A RESULT OF, OF HAVING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE LICENSING AND TECHNICAL ISSUES.
BUT, UH, I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING TO GET IT ON SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
SO THE TOTAL NET INCREASE TO THE BUDGET IF, UH, COUNCIL APPROVES THESE WOULD BE, UH, $10,000.
AND I, AND I WOULD ASK IF YOU WOULD, UH, APPROVE THAT ON MONDAY NIGHT, PLEASE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR JIM? RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, JIM, YOU'VE MADE NOTICE, UH, OF THE SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE PERFECT FIT FOR THAT FULL-TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, POSITION.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THE TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES BEFORE DURING TAX SEASON, AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD LIKE TO BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE.
AND I PERSONALLY, OF COURSE, HAVE BEEN TO THE TAX OFFICE AROUND, YOU KNOW, TAX TIME AND THOSE, UH, VERY, VERY HARD WORKERS DOWN THERE.
UM, AND SOMETIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY TAXING SITUATION.
I'M ON A ROLL TONIGHT, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S A ROUGH DAY.
UM, BUT JIM, I'M ALMOST, I'M GONNA GET YOU A STAGE.
I KNOW, RIGHT? THIS IS GREAT MICRO.
UM, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS, IS TWO TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES ENOUGH? UM, I, I MEAN, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASED GROWTH THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, THE INCREASE OF, OF RESIDENTS, I'M SURE THAT'S GONNA HAVE AN INCREASE OF TAX RETURNS.
UM, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THESE TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES AS WELL EITHER PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY OR FREE UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AFTER SOME OF THE DELINQUENT TAXES THAT WE HAVE AS WELL AND STAY ON TOP OF THAT.
SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE SHIP IS ON, ON SALE IS TWO EMPLOYEES ENOUGH? WELL, MY REQUEST WAS, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE FOUR OPEN POSITIONS RIGHT NOW.
AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT IF YOU COME TO THE TAX OFFICE, THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS THAT WOULD HELP YOU.
UM, UH, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT THE LOWER ADMINISTRATIVE INDIVIDUALS, AND THEY'RE NOT THE, THE, THE TAX ADMINISTRATOR, NOT THE ASSISTANT TAX ADMINISTRATOR.
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THAT ARE ACTUALLY HELPING THE PUBLIC.AND SO MY GOAL WOULD BE TO, UM, HAVE TWO TEMPORARIES THAT WE CAN GET TRAINED IMMEDIATELY.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR ALL OF THE REGULAR, YOU KNOW, THE BACKGROUND AND ALL THAT.
WE'RE STILL DOING BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THESE INDIVIDUALS, BUT, UH, WE CAN GET THEM TRAINED IMMEDIATELY.
AND, UM, UH, AND THEN IN HOPES THAT I THINK OUR DEADLINE IS NEXT WEEK FOR THE, UH, APPLICATIONS TO COME IN FOR THE, UH, FOUR OPEN POSITIONS THAT, UH, WHETHER WE GET FOUR GOOD ONES, AND THEN WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP THOSE TEMPORARIES PAST THE END OF THE YEAR, OR WHETHER WE CAN GET TWO REALLY GOOD ONES FROM THE APPLICANTS AND MAYBE KEEP THESE TEMPORARIES FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, I ALSO HAVE, UM, UH, MADE SURE THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO KEEP THEM, AT LEAST THROUGH THE END OF APRIL 30TH.
SO THE END OF NEXT SEASON, HOPEFULLY WE WON'T NEED THAT.
UH, AND IF WE DO NEED IT, IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T FILLED THE OPEN POSITION, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SAVINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, EITHER ON THE SALARY SIDE OR ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE.
BUT I, IF I THOUGHT WE NEEDED, YOU KNOW, FOUR, I WOULD NOT, THAT WE DON'T NEED THOSE POSITIONS FILLED, I THINK TWO WILL HANDLE OUR IMMEDIATE CONCERN, UM, FROM A MATTER OF, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE AND GIVING THE PUBLIC THE BEST, UH, SERVICE POSSIBLE, UH, FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR, IN THE START OF NEXT YEAR.
SO YOU'LL, WHAT I'M HEARING IS, YOU'LL KNOW BY THE END OF THIS YEAR WHETHER YOU ARE ABLE TO FILL THOSE PERMANENT ROLES.
I WOULD HOPE, UH, THROUGH THE EMPLOYMENT PROCESS, UH, WORKING WITH KATIE KNISELY, UM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, GET SOME MORE APPLICATIONS.
IT'S, IT'S JUST HAD SOME UNFORTUNATE SITUATIONS.
SOME PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF TOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST, UH, RETIREMENTS, UH, WE'VE JUST HAD, UH, UM, IT'S JUST BEEN A TOUGH YEAR ON, UH, ON THE STAFF DOWN THERE, SO.
WELL, I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK AND, UH, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE POSITIONS THAT PAY FOR THEMSELVES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE PRESENTED TO US THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH ON, ON THE DELINQUENCY THAT'S BEEN FILED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, ASSIST BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS TO GETTING TAXES FILED ON TIME, UNLIKE WE WERE HAVING TROUBLES IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
UM, SO I, I KNOW I'M JUST ONE VOTE AND ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.
PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT POSITIONS BECAUSE, UM, I, I THINK THAT IS ONE DEPARTMENT.
WELL, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND IT'S NEEDED.
THEY, IT, THEY APPRECIATE YOUR, I I CAN'T
SO THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT THAT DEFINITELY, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
UM, YEAH, THANK, UM, I'M GETTING A BACK OVER HERE,
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, WE ALL GO DOWN THERE.
WE ALL, WE ALL APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, SO, UM, I JUST, AND I'M SURE I'LL MAKE SURE THEY LISTEN TO THESE COMMENTS CUZ I I'M SURE THEY VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HEARING IT.
I, I MEAN, I KNOW IT WAS JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.
WE DID, UH, WE DID A COMPLETE, UH, REMODEL AND EXPANSION DOWN THERE TO, I MEAN, AGAIN.
UM, AND WE'RE IN PROCESS NOW OF HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THEM IN THE, IN THE UPCOMING YEARS.
UM, SO I MEAN, JUST, I KNOW MY SHORT TIME HERE, WE'VE DONE A LOT AND, UH, I KNOW I DEFINITELY WANNA CONTINUE THAT.
UH, I KNOW A LOT OF US DON'T GET TO SEE ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A SEPARATE LOCATION, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO OUR WATER OFFICE.
NO, I, NO, I KNOW RESIDENTS TEND TO BE VERY FEARFUL OF GETTING THEIR TAXES DONE, BUT THEY'RE JUST HERE, THEY'RE JUST THERE TO HELP.
I REMEMBER THE WHOLE EXPANSION ON PUBLIC WORKS.
GUYS WERE DOWN THERE, I WAS DOWN THERE AND, UH, THEY, I MEAN, JUST A GREAT GROUP, GREAT GROUP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, ANY OBJECTIONS? MOVING THIS ONTO MONDAY? OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE.
JUST TO NOTE, WE WOULD WAIVE THE SECOND READING ON ASSUME YES, PLEASE.
[ 2023 City Budget]
M UH, IS THE 2023 CITY BUDGET.UM, WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE, UM, UH, DETAILS.
I KNOW WE WENT OVER THIS, UM, THREE WEEKS AGO NOW.
UM, UH, UM, UH, GAVE YOU QUITE AN OVERVIEW THAT TIME.
GAVE YOU SOME REVENUES, UH, WENT THROUGH THE, THE TIMELINE, THE HISTORY OF, UH, BUDGETS.
SO, UH, TONIGHT I WANTED TO, UM, HIGHLIGHT THE, UM, THE PROJECTS.
AND I'M, I'M GLAD, UH, VINCE HAS STUCK AROUND BECAUSE HE'LL, HE'LL LIKE WHAT HE SEES IN THIS, I BELIEVE
SO, UM, JUST, UH, SO, UM, UH, JUST A, A CHECK ON OUR CURRENT STATUS.
UH, EVERYTHING'S REMAINING ON OR UNDER BUDGET.
UH, WE'RE MAINTAINING A STRONG REVENUE POSITION.
UM, AS I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES, THE COVID IMPACTS WERE, UH, MINIMAL AND IF NOT, WE'RE ACTUALLY COMING OUT BETTER ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE OF GRANT REVENUE THAT'S BEEN, UH, UH, ALLOTTED TO US.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE ARPA MONEY WE ALREADY RECEIVED, IT WAS GOOD NEWS TONIGHT TO HEAR THAT WE'RE GONNA GET SOME, UH, HELP WITH FIRE AS WELL.
UH, AS I SAID LAST TIME, UH, WE INCREASED OUR BOND RATING IN 2021, SO WE WOULD HOPE TO STAY IN A STRONG, STABLE FINANCIAL POSITION.
SO THAT WAY, WAY WE CAN CONTINUE THAT, UM, AS WE LOOK AT, UH, UPCOMING
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DEBT THAT WE'LL NEED, UH, NEXT YEAR WITH ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.SO THE, UH, PREVIEW TONIGHT, I'M BRINGING YOU THE FORMAL SUBMITTAL.
UH, I WOULD ASK THAT THE, UH, BUDGET IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT HAD THE APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE, UH, THAT LISTS ALL OF THE DOLLARS, PERSONNEL, UH, OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL, UM, DEBT AND, UH, TRANSFERS AND ADVANCES.
THOSE ARE ALL, UH, UM, IN YOUR PACKET.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST FOR FIRST READING ON MONDAY NIGHT.
UM, AS IT STANDS TODAY, AND, UH, AS I ALWAYS TELL BRIAN, WE'RE, UM, BASICALLY ON A DAILY BASIS TWEAKING THE BUDGET, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE, UH, ABOUT THE SAME, UH, AS WHAT THEY WERE LAST TIME.
UH, 101,000 8 45 391 IS OUR ANTICIPATED REVENUES AT THIS TIME, 103,998.
UH, THE PROJECTED FUND BALANCE, UH, THE FUNDS THAT I EXPECT TO GROW, UM, DURING, IN OTHER WORDS, REVENUES WOULD BE EXCEEDING, EXPENSES WOULD BE IN THE GENERAL FUND, A MOTOR VEHICLE FUND, GAS TAX FUND, AND LOCAL STREET OPERATING FUND.
AND, UH, THOSE FUNDS THAT WE ARE PLANNING, UM, TO, UH, REDUCE TO, TO USE OUR RESERVES FOR, UH, SPECIFIC PROJECTS, AS YOU'LL SEE COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES IS THE POLICE FUND, FIRE FUND, PARKS FUND, WATER, SEWER, AND STORM WATER.
SO WE WANNA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT MEANS, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BE USING, UM, MORE EXPENSIVE THAN REVENUES IN THOSE CASES.
UM, FIRST I WANNA GO OVER THE ONGOING COMMITMENTS.
SO THESE ARE ITEMS THAT, UH, SOME OF THE DOLLARS FLUCTUATE, BUT, UH, THESE ARE ONGOING COMMITMENTS.
STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS, 250,000, UH, ANNUAL SIDEWALK REPAIRS.
UH, I DID INCREASE THAT, UH, I THINK 15% FOR NEXT YEAR.
I THINK IT WAS 150,000 THIS YEAR.
SO, UH, THAT WAS AT RUSS'S, UH, URGING THAT WE, UH, INCREASED THAT AMOUNT.
UH, SANITARY SEWER LINING, 350,000, UH, FLEET VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN FLEET MANAGEMENT, UH, WITH ENTERPRISE AND, UH, THAT'S BEEN GOING REAL WELL.
AND SO WE WOULD ESTIMATE, AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE SUPPLY CHAIN, UH, INTERRUPTIONS, UH, WE WOULD EXPECT TO SPEND ABOUT 320,000 ON THAT.
UH, WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT, UH, MILLION 300,000.
AND THE, UH, ANNUAL STREET WORK, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.
UM, WE ARE TAKING NOT ONLY WHAT IS NORMALLY, UM, A PORTION OF THAT IS OUT OF THE, UM, TAX MONEY THAT WE, UH, BRING IN FOR THAT, AS WELL AS, UH, GAS TAX MONEY.
WE'VE BEEN USING 500,000 FOR THE, UH, LIKE CONCRETE, UM, SIDEWALK WORK.
AND, UH, AND THEN ALSO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THAT WILL BE OUT OF THE, UH, STORM WATER.
UM, AS, UH, WE WERE, UM, COUNCIL JUST PASSED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO, UM, WE WON'T HAVE THAT, THAT PORTION THAT SHOULD BE COMING OUT OF STORMWATER MONEY IS, UM, IS HERE.
SO OF THAT COMPONENT, IT'S MADE UP OF THREE DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT ARE FUNDING THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST ALL UNDER, UH, TAX REVENUES, CUZ I DO ANTICIPATE THE TAXES NEXT YEAR, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR STREET PROGRAM SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE THAN $2 MILLION.
SO WE'RE PULLING MONEY FROM OTHER, UH, FUNDS IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT A, A WORTHWHILE, UH, PROGRAM.
GET MORE STREETS DONE NEXT YEAR.
UH, NOW THE REST OF THESE SLIDES ARE GONNA BE ONE TIME COMMITMENTS.
UM, THEY MIGHT BE THE BEGINNING OF PROJECTS, BUT THEY ARE, UM, ONE TIME, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE NOT CONTINUING.
SO WE HAVE A FIRE MEDIC COMING UP NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS REPLACING A 1997 ENGINE, UH, THE STREET SWEEPER, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE COMING OUTTA THE STORMWATER FUND.
UH, EMERALD GATE WATER TOWER PAINTING, UH, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
THERE WERE OTHER THINGS THAT CAME UP.
SO WE PUSHED IT OFF TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
UM, WE'VE ALSO GOT, UH, THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, NEW, WELL, UH, MILLION THREE FOR THAT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT ALSO INCLUDES A COMPONENT FOR BUYING LAND THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE DOLLARS.
UH, CARRIAGE TRAILS, SEWER LIFT STATION 150,000.
UH, AND THEN THE NEXT TWO ARE THE DESIGN WORK.
UH, SO IN 2023, WE'LL NEED, UM, APPROXIMATELY 10% OF THE ANTICIPATED, UH, TOTAL PROJECT CONSTRUCTION COSTS WILL GO TOWARDS DESIGN.
SO PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY DESIGN ANTICIPATED TO BE A MILLION DOLLARS AND DESIGN FOR THE COUNCIL SLASH SENIOR CENTER FACILITY, UH, 550,000 FOR THAT.
UH, THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY ROAD PROJECTS.
SO ONE TIME COMMITMENTS FOR ROAD PROJECTS IN 2023, CHAMBERSBURG WIDENING WEST OF TRO PIKE, UH, POWELL ROAD REALIGNMENT, UH, THORN GATE DRIVE REMOVAL, UH, ILLUMINATED STREET NAME SIGNS, 135,000 FOR THAT.
UH, BRANT PIKE REVITALIZATION $150,000.
UH, FISHBURG ROAD WIDENING FROM OLD TROY PIKE TO BRANT, THAT'S $700,000, UH, ANTICIPATED ESTIMATED.
AND THEN THE FINAL ONE, OLD TROY PIKE, ADDITIONAL NORTHBOUND LANE.
THAT'S, UM, WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IN THAT, UH, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS THERE.
UM, UH, COMING OFF OF TAYLOR'S BILL DOWN TO, UH, SAY MCDONALD'S, THE, THAT LANE IS ANTICIPATED TO
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COST $1,400,000.AND AS YOU SEE SOME OF THAT, UH, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PAVING WORK STARTED ON THAT, UH, UH, HERE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, NOW THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE ALL ONE TIME COMMITMENTS THAT ARE PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, ON THE ROAD PROJECTS, UH, WE TALKED BEFORE, WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT, UH, THE, THE WAY THAT WE RESURFACED THE ROAD, UH, AT, UH, CHAMBERSBURG AND BR WITH THE, UH, THE NICE MARKINGS, LARS.
AND WE WERE, I THOUGHT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE DIFFERENT INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW THAT DESIGN.
AND I'VE BEEN ASKED SEVERAL TIMES IF THAT'S GONNA BE DONE.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING RECENTLY ON IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THAT, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT THAT CONCEPT IS INCLUDED IN ALL OF THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE WOULD BE WORKING THROUGH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE CROSSWALK AREAS.
I CAN CONFIRM WITH THE ENGINEER, BUT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS TO INCLUDE THAT KIND OF WORK IN OUR PROJECTS HAS BEEN PASSED ONTO THE ENGINEER AND IS INCLUDED.
SO ON TAYLORSVILLE AND 2 0 2, WE SHOULD SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR, SINCE THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK UP THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION.
THEY'RE SIMPLY JUST ADDING THE LANE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ADDING THE LANE ON THE EAST SIDE AS OPPOSED TO CUTTING ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND REBUILDING THE FULL INTERSECTION.
SO THAT WOULD NOT SEE IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
BUT FOR INSTANCE, THE PROPOSED, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AT CHAMBERSBURG, UM, IN ELROY, THAT WOULD BE AN INTERSECTION WHERE WE WOULD GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND DO ALL FOUR CORNERS.
AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE WOULD THEN MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS RELATIVE TO THE, UH, CROSSWALK DELINEATIONS.
I THOUGHT ANYWHERE THAT WE WERE PUTTING LIKE THE MASS ARMS IN THAT, THAT, THAT WAS GOING TO ALSO FOLLOW SUIT ONLY IF WE'RE ONLY, IF WE'RE WORKING WITHIN, UH, THE ROADWAY, WE'RE DOING A FULL RECONSTRUCT.
SO NEXT YEAR, AND WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THE REPAVING BRT PIKE FROM K TO FISHBURN.
RIGHT? WILL IT GO, WILL GO ANY FURTHER NORTH THAN THAT? SO WOULD THE FISHBURG BRT PIKE INTERSECTION WHEN WE, WHEN THAT GETS REDONE, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE THE SAME DESIGN WORK? THAT'S A CHAMBERSBURG WE'D HAVE TO HAVE.
UM, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE OOC CONTRACT FOR NEXT YEAR.
I KNOW THAT'S, I KNOW THAT'S BEING DONE NEXT YEAR.
GRANT, JUST LIKE WE JUST, WE JUST DID OLD TROY, UH, I, WE WENT, WE WENT THROUGH FISHBURG BY WHAT, MAYBE 50, 60 FEET MAYBE? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT ROAD IS GETTING DONE THROUGH THERE AND I KNOW ODO CORRECT, ODOS NOT PAYING FOR THAT.
BUT IF WE CAN COORDINATE IT SO THAT THAT'S BEING DONE, CUZ IF IT'S A MATTER OF DOING IT WHEN THE ROAD WORK GETS DONE, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO COORDINATE THAT.
AND I, I'LL CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IF WE WANTED IT DONE.
SO, UM, I SUSPECT THAT THAT'S, WITH ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING TO THAT, TO THAT INTERSECTION, TO THAT AREA.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS.
I THINK PROBABLY ALL OF, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THE SAME TYPE OF, UM, COMMENTARY THAT I HAVE FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT, UM, I MEAN, PEOPLE LIKE TO FEEL GOOD IN THE SPACE THEY'RE IN AND THOSE INTERSECTION CROSSWALKS WITH THE BRICK.
I MEAN THAT, UH, LIKE I'VE GOT MORE COMPLIMENTS ON JUST THAT WHAT SEEMS PROBABLY A SMALLER ITEM, BUT PEOPLE LIKE TO FEEL GOOD IN THE SPACE THEY'RE IN AND THAT THAT'S A FEEL GOOD, UH, THING THAT'S DONE THERE.
AND, AND PEOPLE WERE REALLY APPRECIATIVE THAT THAT HAPPENED.
SO I THINK CERTAINLY AT BRANT AND FISHBURG, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT THAT ODOS IS GONNA RESURFACE FROM KIT UP THROUGH FISHBURG, WE NEED, WE NEED TO COORDINATE THAT.
I WOULDN'T WANNA SEE THAT ALREADY TO BE DONE REPAID, THEN LET'S GO BACK AND HAVE TO DO IT AND TEAR IT UP.
GLEN, SINCE WE'RE HERE, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, WHERE IT MENTIONS BRIAN PIKE REVITALIZATION.
WOULD THAT BE LIKE STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENTS OR, I'M NOT THE ONE THAT ASKED THAT.
UH, AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M BRINGING TO YOU ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WE, BRIAN AND I MET WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND, AND BRIAN MIGHT KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THIS, BUT, UH, WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR AND WHAT, UH, HAS BEEN AGREED ON BY US TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE BUDGET IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT.
SO ON THE, THE BRAND PIKE REVITALIZATION, IF YOU'LL RECALL, UH, THERE WAS THE STUDY, UH, FROM 1617.
THAT STUDY WAS REVIEWED BY, UH, M V R P C, WHO GLEANED FROM THAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BEGIN, UM, UM, WHO GLEANED FROM THAT SEVERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO RECONSTRUCT GRANT TO REFLECT THE IDEALS THAT WERE INCLUDED WITHIN, UH, THAT STUDY.
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NOW WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH, UH, THE FIRM WHO CREATED THE STUDY TO COME UP WITH CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AT COST ESTIMATES OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.AND SO THIS WOULD BE A CONTINUATION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DESIGN AND APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THERE'S NO PHYSICAL CONSTRUCT ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THE GRANT PIPE REVITALIZATION AS YOU SEE IT HERE, BUT THIS IS THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE ENGINEERING AND THE PRELIMINARY WORK, WHICH WOULD LEAD TO, UH, PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS SLIDE BEFORE JIM MOVES FORWARD? OKAY.
AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE GONNA BE, UH, PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND, UM, TRIED TO GO FROM, UH, LOW DOLLAR TO HIGH DOLLAR ON THESE.
SO, UH, $20,000 FOR BALL DIAMOND FENCES.
UM, $30,000 FOR SHELTER ROOFS, UH, $50,000 FOR PARKING LOT PAVING, UH, PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHICH WAS MENTIONED TONIGHT.
UH, $70,000 FOR RESURFACING THOSE, UH, THE TOM CLOUD PARK WALKING PATH, $200,000.
UH, TOM CLOUD'S SIDEWALK GOING FROM KITTRIDGE DOWN TO CLOUD PARK.
UH, SPLASH PAD IMPROVEMENTS, $200,000.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON ANY OF THESE? I THINK THIS, THESE HAVE BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ASSESSMENT STUDY THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UH, COMMUNITY CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, $105,000, UH, SHO GATE PARK PLAYGROUND, $300,000, UH, DIAL PARK IMPROVEMENTS, $315,000.
AND THEN, UH, FINALLY I'VE GOT, UH, THE, THE AQUATIC CENTER IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THESE ARE WITH BRIAN AND I HAVE TALKED TO, UH, CHRIS LINMAN.
AND SO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, UH, SEVERAL ITEMS TOTALING $180,700.
AND, UH, WE'VE HAD INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, UH, THE MIMI FOLKS AS TO WHAT'S NEEDED, UH, FOR IMPROVEMENTS OUT AT THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER.
AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS THE INITIAL ESTIMATE FOR THAT, UH, DETAILS TO COME.
AND SO THE, UM, THE ONE TIME COMMITMENTS, UH, IN THE 2023 BUDGET AS IT STANDS TODAY, UH, $9,285,700.
QUESTION, YES, BRIAN, UH, DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE ANY MONEY IN THERE FOR THE SPLASH PAD OR DID THERE'S $200,000 SLIDE? THERE'S $200,000 FOR THE SPLASH PAD.
UM, MIGHT GO UP A LITTLE BIT, MIGHT GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT 200,000 IS WHERE, WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GONNA BE.
SPEAKING OF THE SPLASH PATTERN, BRIAN, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THAT CONVERT.
WE TALKING ABOUT THE CONVERSION.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT NOW OR WE THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LEANING, OR ARE WE GONNA KEEP IT? SO THERE'S PLUSES AND THERE'S PLUSES AND MINUSES.
THE, UM, TO KEEP THE FACILITY AS A CHLORINATED RECYCLE FACILITY WILL REQUIRE SOME UPGRADES.
UH, PROBABLY LESS THAN $200,000.
BUT NOW THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE COMING ACROSS IS WHO'S AVAILABLE TO SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE THESE, UH, ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHO HAS THE PROPER TRAINING AND CERTIFICATIONS TO DO THIS CONSISTENT TESTING AND CHLORINATION.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
WE THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A VENDOR WHO COULD HELP US OUT.
UH, BUT UH, THE VENDORS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO RUN THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES ARE FEWER AND FURTHER BETWEEN.
THAT'S ON THE CHLORINATION SIDE.
UH, WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO RUN THE FACILITY AS A NON CHLORINATED, UM, THROUGH AND THROUGH.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD JUST PUMP IN WATER DIRECTLY FROM THE SYSTEM AND THEN, UM, DISCHARGE THAT WATER INTO THE CREEK TO WHAT WOULD BE THE SOUTH, SOUTHEAST, UM, OF THAT LOCATION.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THAT.
UH, WE WOULD PUSH THROUGH THAT SYSTEM IN A SEASON ROUGHLY 1.8 MILLION OR 8 MILLION, 1.8 MILLION GALLONS, UH, WORTH OF WATER BASED ON WHAT THE AVERAGE DAILY DEMAND IS.
WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT THAT DEMAND WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE HOTTEST DAYS OF THE SUMMER BASED ON OUR CURRENT, UH, UM, PRODUCTION CAPACITY.
UH, THAT'S PROBLEM NUMBER ONE.
PROBLEM NUMBER TWO IS WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT 1.8 MILLION GALLONS WORTH OF FREE FLOWING WATER IN A CREEK THAT DOESN'T SEE THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS,
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW THAT ALL, HOW THAT ALL WORKS AND MOVES TOGETHER.
I MEAN, THE REALITY QUITE FRANKLY IS WE MAY WIND UP HAVING THE PAD IN A SIMILAR CONDITION.
IT WILL BE FUNCTIONAL, UH, BUT IT MAY BE FUNCTIONAL IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION, RIGHT? SO, UM, WE'VE JUST GOT TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST AVENUE OR WHAT THE BEST OPTION IS.
IT WOULD BE A SHAME FOR US TO MAKE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AT THE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CHLORINATION PERSPECTIVE TO TURN AROUND AND THEN THE FOLLOWING
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YEAR, UH, ABANDON ALL OF THOSE AND MOVE TO A FRESH WATER SYSTEM OR VICE VERSA.SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, JOSH AND I TALK ABOUT THAT IN OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS.
THE ISSUE IS WE'RE WAITING ON SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE O EPA.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM, UM, OD AND R WE'RE TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR WITH RESPECT TO, UM, MAINTAINING, UM, AND OPERATING THESE CHLORINATED FACILITIES.
AND SOMETIMES THOSE FOLKS DON'T REALIZE THAT WE SHOULD BE THEIR ONLY CLIENT.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
BUT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE SPLASH PAD AT THE MOMENT.
I GUESS I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT HAVING A NON CHLORINATED SYSTEM.
UM, WHAT'S THE, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENTS STAND ON THAT? WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT RECYCLING THE MATERIAL THAT'S GOING RIGHT OFF THE PAD AND INTO, UM, AND INTO A DISCHARGE.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT RUN NON RECYCLED SYSTEMS WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.
UM, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TAKING A SHOT.
HOW DO WE WANT TO, HOW DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE? OKAY.
AND, AND, AND WE'RE GOING HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON THAT WHEN, UH, AS SOON AS WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION BACK WITH RESPECT TO BOTH, WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE TO CHLORINATE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN ADEQUATELY MAINTAIN, UH, THE VOLUME DEMAND THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN THE SUMMERTIME AT THIS FACILITY.
BASED ON WHAT, BASED ON WHAT I KNOW TODAY, I WOULD SAY IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY THAT WE'LL HAVE TO RUN AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR AS A CHLORINATED FACILITY UNTIL THE NEW WELL FIELD CAN GO IN, AND WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE PRODUCTION, UH, FOR OUR DAILY DEMAND, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY'S DAILY DEMAND.
SO THE COST OF A NEW WELL FILLED, I'M SORRY.
WHAT'S THAT? THE COST OF A NEW WELL FILLED AND A TIME TO PUT IT IN IS, SO THE, YEAH.
THE ISSUE AT THIS POINT IS, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THAT FIELD? I MEAN, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, THIS UNFORTUNATELY LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A TAKING SITUATION.
AND SO, UM, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH THAT AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS WE CAN, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THAT, BUT IF WE CANNOT, UM, OKAY.
NINA? I GUESS THE SLIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER ASSESSMENT AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, IS THAT SOMETHING, DO WE REALLY NEED AN ASSESSMENT TO DO THIS TO THE TUNE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS? WELL, JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BUDGET DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE INTEND TO SPEND THE WHOLE, WHOLE AMOUNT, BUT THE IDEA IS NOT JUST THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN ASSESSMENT, BUT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING OR SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN WORK AS WELL, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A, A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AT THAT FACILITY IN THE LONG TERM.
VER I KNOW WE KIND OF, UH, TOOK A, UH, LEFT FIELD APPROACH HERE ON THIS.
OH, JIM'S GOING, WHAT THE HELL?
UM, AND I, I, RYAN, I'M PROBABLY SURE YOU DON'T HAVE THESE NUMBERS NOW, BUT IF YOU COULD EMAIL THEM OUT MAYBE TO ALL OF COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UM, ON WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE SPLASH PAD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? UM, I THINK THOSE NUMBERS WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY EYE OPENING TO COUNSEL.
IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY 15% HIGHER THAN WHAT I RECALL THEM BEING BEFORE, UM, THAT MIGHT BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE WANT TO HAVE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
AS LONG AS YOU DIDN'T SCREW UP YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT, JUST, JUST MAKING NOTES.
SO, UM, THOSE TWO COMBINED, UH, OVER 14 MILLION OF, UH, COMMITMENTS IN THE NEXT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND THEN, UH, JUST MY SUMMARY PAGE HERE, UH, WE'RE GONNA LEVERAGE OUR STRONG AND STABLE FINANCIAL POSITION FOR LONG-TERM GAINS.
UM, WE WANT TO MANAGE MONEY TO CEMENT OUR NEW BOND RATING, SO WE NEED TO MANAGE IT PROPERLY SO THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP OUR GOOD, UH, INCREASED BOND RATING.
UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REDUCE DEBT AS POSSIBLE.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING, UM, TIF MONIES TO, UH, PAY OFF, UH, PAYER ANNUAL DEBT ISSUES.
AND, UM, UH, THIS SHOWS A COMMITMENT TO THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, WHICH WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A FEW YEARS, AND ALSO A COMMITMENT TO THE NEW COUNCIL, SENIOR CENTER FACILITY.
AND, UM, IT WILL ENSURE, UH, RESOURCES FOR SUPPORTING OUR 2025 PLAN.
AND THEN I WANTED TO, AT THE END, UH,
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NOTE FOR YOU, UH, BASED ON MY ANTICIPATED, UM, REVENUES, TAX REVENUES, AS WE TALKED ABOUT JUST MOMENTS AGO, THE, UH, THE TWO LEVIES THAT ARE COMING UP, WHICH, UH, WOULD RENEW IN 2024.AND IN 2025, EACH OF THOSE ARE 0.25% OF OUR 2.25%, UM, INCOME TAX, UH, COLLECT, UH, COLLECTIONS.
AND, UH, I ESTIMATE THOSE TO BE ABOUT 2.75 MILLION EACH.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, HIT TO, UH, OUR ABILITY TO, UH, FUND AND OPERATE SEVERAL OF THESE, UH, PROJECTS THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, IF EITHER THOSE WERE TO NOT BE RENEWED AND, AND OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, POTENTIALLY BRINGING THOSE, UH, TO THE BALLOT IN 23, UH, AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, SO I THINK, AS TONY MENTIONED, IF WE WERE GONNA BRING IT IN MAY, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION BY FEBRUARY 1ST.
AND, UM, UM, SO IT'D BE MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME THAT WE, UM, JUST LOOK AT RENEWALS.
NO NEED TO ASK FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MONIES, BUT, UH, ONCE AGAIN, IF THEY WERE NOT RENEWED BY THE PUBLIC AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO ANY, UM, ANY RESIDENT OR BUSINESS, THEN UH, THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL LOSS OF 2.75 MILLION OF INCOME TAX REVENUE IF EITHER OF THOSE WERE NOT RENEWED.
AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE THIS, THESE NUMBERS NOW, BUT IF YOU COULD GET 'EM TO ME, UM, WHEN POSSIBLE OR, OR TO ALL OF COUNSEL, UM, THE NUMBERS YOU HAVE AT, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, THE, UH, QUARTER PERCENT, UM, UP IN 2024 AT 2.7, UH, FIVE MIL, AND THE SAME THING FOR THE 2025.
ARE THOSE CURRENT MILLS OR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE, OR WHAT WE COULD BE RECEIVING? OH, IT, IT'S NOT LIKE A MILLAGE, LIKE A, UM, A PROPERTY TAX LEVY.
UM, THAT'S TWO $2,750,000 IS WHAT I'VE ESTIMATED THAT WE WOULD BRING IN IN 2024 FOR 0.25% OF OUR 2.25% TOTAL INCOME TAX.
SO, UM, I THINK THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU A FEW YEARS AGO, UM, WHEN I WAS INCREASED CHANGING THE NUMBERS, IT WAS 1.99 MILLION.
SO TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, OUR INCOME TAX STAFF IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OF FINDING THOSE DOLLARS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN REPORTED IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND SO, AND OF COURSE THERE'S BEEN MORE GROWTH TO THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY WE ADDED 5,000, UH, RESIDENTS OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND SO THE INCOME TAX COLLECTIONS GROW, AND, UM, SO THAT NUMBER GROWS.
AND I MAY HAVE ASKED THAT INCORRECTLY, BUT YOU GAVE ME WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
SO THOSE TWO LEVIES REPRESENT FIVE AND A HALF MILLION A YEAR IN REVENUE.
AND THOSE ARE 10 YEAR RENEWALS.
THAT'S 55 MILLION HIT TO OUR BUDGET IF THEY DON'T PASS 5.5 MILLION.
SO 55 MILLION OVER, OVER 10 YEARS.
OVER 10 YEARS, YES, IT WOULD, MM-HMM.
SO OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE MUCH MORE, UH, SIGNIFICANT.
AND, UM, OUTSIDE OF THESE TWO AND THAT ONE, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IS, UM, PERMANENT ON THE INCOME TAX.
ANY QUESTIONS OR WAS THIS THE END OF THE OKAY.
THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION AND, UM, I, I, I, UM, UH, WHEN I TALKED EARLIER IN MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT ABOUT, UM, WE TWEAKED THE BUDGET ALMOST DAILY.
WE ARE NOT ADDING AND SUBTRACTING, UM, ITEMS AND OPERATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, WHEN I TALK ABOUT THAT, UM, UH, MY DEPUTY FINANCE DIRECTOR AND I, UM, WE MOVE MONIES AS A, AS PART OF TRANSFERS AND ADVANCES AND DEBT PAYMENTS.
SO, UH, AND THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S CONSTANTLY MOVING DEBT PAYMENTS.
WE WERE, UM, DOING THOSE NOTES, AS YOU KNOW, UH, WERE JUST PRICED, UH, LAST WEEK.
SO AS WE GET MORE FINAL NUMBERS BEFORE THAT SECOND READING AT THE SECOND MEETING IN, IN NOVEMBER, UM, WE'LL HAVE A FINAL BUDGET TO GIVE YOU, BUT IT WILL BE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW.
I THINK THE LAST FIGURE I LOOKED AT WAS ONLY A DIFFERENCE OF 35,000, UM, WHERE THE REVENUES WEREN'T MATCHING THE, THE, UH, EXPENSES WHEN IT COMES TO DEBT AND TRANSFERS AND ADVANCES.
SO WE'LL GET THAT ALL IRONED OUT BEFORE THE NEXT, UH, SECOND READING, ANITA.
THE WATER FUND, THE, THE WATER THING CAME OUT.
THEY ESTIMATED $4 MILLION A YEAR NEEDS TO BE SPENT TO REPLACE THE WATER LINES.
I MEAN, SO HOW ARE WE HANDLING THIS? SO, AS WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, UM, OUR STAFF'S INTENT IS AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL ABOUT ADDRESSING, UH, WASTE WATER.
THERE IS A HUNDRED MILLION PLANT EXPANSION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR, UH, AT THE TRI-CITIES FACILITY.
TRI-CITIES HAS ALREADY BEGUN RAISING RATES TO ITS MEMBERS.
SO THE BOARD PASSED A 10% RATE INCREASE TO ALL OF THE JU UH,
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ALL OF THE JURISDICTIONS LAST MONTH.AND WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL ABOUT HOW THAT LOOKS FOR US AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD, AND HOW WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.
THAT'S THE FIRST PRIORITY BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST EMINENT PRIORITY THAT'S BEING DRIVEN BY AN ORGANIZATION BEYOND US.
THE NEXT COMPONENT WOULD THEN BE THE WATER COMPONENT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE SANITARY STORM, OR NOT SANITARY STORM, THE SANITARY SEWER ISSUE, THE WASTEWATER ISSUE, WE WOULD LOOK TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH RESPECT TO, UM, UH, THE WATER SYSTEM AND HOW WE PLAN TO FUND, UH, THE RECOMMENDED, UH, THE RECOMMENDED INVESTMENTS FROM THE STUDY.
UH, IN 2025, THE CITY WILL MAKE THE LAST PAYMENT ON ONE OF ITS EXISTING DEBT OBLIGATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE WATER FUND.
AND THAT WILL FREE UP 1.6 MILLION WORTH OF MONEY THAT CAN THEN BE REDIRECTED TO, UH, ANNUAL WATER MAIN, UH, REPLACEMENT OR WATER MAIN INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THE GAP BECOMES SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER IN 2025.
SO WE WOULD TALK WITH COUNCIL, UH, IN 2023 ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN INCREMENTALLY RAISE THE WATER RATES THROUGH TIME SO THAT WHEN THE DEBT IS PAID OFF IN 2025 AND THE FULL 1.26 BECOMES AVAILABLE IN 2026, UM, ALL OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO MEET THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE, UM, OF THE STUDY ARE PRESENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD CONCERNING THAT REPORT, HAVE WE ORDERED THE CORRECT SIZE PIPING THEY RECOMMENDED IN THERE? SO YES, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ENGINEER, WE ARE ORDERING AS MUCH PIPE AS WE CAN GET IN THE SIZE THAT IS NEEDED, AS FAR IN ADVANCE AS WE CAN, UM, BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW OUR PROJECTS TO BE.
AND AS OF, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK, UH, ORDER DEAD, EXCUSE ME, ORDER LEAD TIMES MOVED FROM SIX MONTHS TO 10 MONTHS.
YEAH, THAT REPORT WAS, YOU KNOW, EYE OPENING, UM, GOOD, BUT EYE OPENING AND JUST AS I SAID, I KNOW IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT IF WE COULD NOT SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON A STUDY THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE WE COULD POSSIBLY USE FOR PIPING.
UM, I JUST SEE THIS AS BEING A CRITICAL ISSUE, UM, WHEN THEY'RE SAYING BY 30, 20, 37 THAT IF WE DON'T GET ON TOP OF THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR PROBLEM.
AND I'M NOT PLANNING ON BEING HERE IN 2037, UM, BUT I DON'T WANNA LEAVE A BIG PROBLEM FOR THE COUNCIL THAT DOES COME UP AT THAT POINT.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION, AND I RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP AT THE TOP OF THE LIST ALL OF THE TIME, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO.
AND SO IF IT IS THE POLICY DIRECTION OF COUNCIL THAT WE REALLOCATE RESOURCES IN THIS BUDGET FROM WHAT THEY ARE TODAY TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TOMORROW, THEN WE AS STAFF WILL RESPOND TO THAT A ACCORDINGLY.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO MOVE IN WHATEVER DIRECTION AND PRIORITIZE WHATEVER, UH, PARTICULAR ISSUES COUNCIL WANTS PRIORITIZED.
UH, AND THIS BUDGET IS REFLECTIVE OF THE INFORMATION WE HAD AT THE TIME WE ASSEMBLED THE BUDGET.
AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CHANGE, WE'RE HAPPY TO, UH, LOOK AT AMENDING THIS BUDGET AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE TIME WHEN THAT DIRECTION IS PROVIDED BY COUNCIL.
I WOULD ALSO ADD, UM, A COUNCILWOMAN, UH, KITCHEN THAT, UM, ONE SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE THAT WAS ON THAT LIST FOR NEXT YEAR IS 1.3 MILLION FOR A NEW, WELL, NEW, UH, WELL, FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, THAT IS NOT A NORMAL ONGOING EXPENSE.
SO THAT COULD HAVE BEEN 1.3 MILLION ADDED TO THE OTHER 1.3 MILLION.
WE COULD HAVE BEEN SPENDING 2.6 MILLION ON, UM, UH, WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT NEXT YEAR.
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MORE OF A TYPICAL YEAR THAT WE COULD DO THAT.
UM, WE HAD TO CARVE THAT MONEY OUT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT NEED.
AND SO, UM, THERE ARE, IT'S JUST DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT THAT UNFORTUNATELY, UH, TIE OUR HANDS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, ASSESSMENT STUDY, UM, I JUST WANNA REMIND COUNSEL THAT THERE ARE BUCKETS.
WE HAVE, UM, A CITY GOVERNMENT IS FUND ACCOUNTING, SO NO, THERE'S A WATER FUND, THERE'S A, A STORM WATER FUND, THERE'S A PARKS AND RECREATION FUND.
I CAN'T MOVE MONEY FROM PARKS AND RECREATION OVER TO WATER.
SO, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE OTHER DECISIONS, LIKE IF YOU WANNA MOVE SOME MONEY FROM GENERAL FUND OVER TO WATER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, THE STUDY IN THE PARKS FUND IS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHEREAS THE, UH, WATER FUND IS FOR WATER RELATED, UH, ITEMS. AND, UH, THANK YOU.
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I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET, BUT UH, I JUST WANTED, UH, TO DRILL, KIND OF SUMMARIZE, UH, IN MY MIND WHAT COUNCILWOMAN KITCHEN MENTIONED.UH, BRIAN, SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT ON, UM, THE, UH, WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM INTEGRITY STUDY SUMMARY THAT YOU WAS SENT OUT, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR 4 MILLION A YEAR THAT'S NEEDED.
UM, BUT THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET.
THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, NEXT, EARLY NEXT YEAR.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T RECALL, UH, THE WATER LINING PROJECT.
I THINK RUSS MONTHS AGO SAID THAT HE HAD SUSPENDED THAT NOTHING NEW UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD AN UPDATE ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT KIND OF GOES THE SAME THING.
THAT'S NOT THIS PART, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF AN ONGOING ISSUE CUZ WE STILL HAVEN'T HAD ANY WATER MAINS REPLACED AT THIS POINT SO FAR THIS YEAR, EVEN THOUGH WE FUNDED IT.
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS, I HAD THAT CORRECT IN MY MIND AS FAR AS THE $4 MILLION.
NOW, UH, WE GOT THE SUMMARY FROM STAFF, UM, BUT I STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE ACTUAL SUM OR THE, THE STUDY.
UH, COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT I GET THAT AS LONG AS WELL AS THE REST OF COUNSEL WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT? SO THAT STUDY WAS MADE OUT, EMAILED OUT THIS MORNING IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST FROM MR. SHAW AND ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WERE ON COPY TO THAT EMAIL.
OH, THAT WAS THIS MORNING? YES, SIR.
AND I WOULD NOTE THAT WE SUSPENDED THE LINING PROJECT AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL BECAUSE IT WAS COUNCIL'S REQUEST THAT IF WE WERE TO INVEST THAT WE INVEST IN A METHOD THAT WE KNEW WOULD RESOLVE OUR ISSUES, WHICH WAS WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT REQUEST AND ITS RELATION TO THE 2022 BUDGET, THAT DELAYED OUR ABILITY TO GET ENGINEERING COMPLETED, UM, AND HAVE THAT WORK DONE FULLY WITHIN CALENDAR YEAR 2022.
AND THAT WAS THEN COMPOUNDED BY, UM, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
SO NO, I, I REMEMBER ALL THAT.
I HAD, UM, I DID GET THAT EMAIL, UM, BUT THERE WAS A, APPARENTLY A THING YOU HAD TO PUSH TO GET TO THE VERY BOTTOM THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE STUDY ACTUALLY WAS.
UH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DRILL DOWN ON.
I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL SAVE THOSE FOR, YOU KNOW, LET OTHER PEOPLE GO, BUT THEY ON THIS ISSUE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, UH, ON THE DISCUSSION PORTION HERE FOR WHAT JIM HAS PRESENTED? EASY.
YEAH, I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED AND NEVER ASKED.
I KNOW THE SCHOOL'S GOOD MONEY FROM THE LOTTERY, FROM GAMBLING.
DO MUNICIPALITIES GET ANY MONEY FROM THAT? NO, THERE'S, THERE'S NO MONEY THAT, THE ONLY MONEY THAT WE WOULD GET RELATED TO GAMBLING IS, UM, OUR WONDERFUL FOLKS AT THE INCOME TAX OFFICE.
UH, IF YOU, IF YOU, UM, DO HAVE GAMBLING WINNINGS AND THEY'RE OH, I KNOW, I KNOW THEY ARE TAXED.
SO WE DON'T GET DIRECT MONEY FROM THE OHIO LOTTERY.
SO WHATEVER HAPPENED TO, IF, IF YOU WIN THE BILLION DOLLARS YEAH.
THEN, THEN YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T CARE GET, WOULDN'T CARE AT ALL.
UM, THAT'S A YEAR AGO, I THINK IT WAS THE STATE WAS PROPOSING THAT ALL OF OUR TAX REVENUE GO TO COLUMBUS AND THEN THEY WOULD SEND IT BACK THE, THE INCOME TAXES AND THEN THEY WOULD HOLD OUT A SERVICE FEE.
ARE THEY DOING THAT? UH, THAT WAS, UH, DECLARED TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
SO WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THE REFUND.
THAT WAS SUCH A VERY TINY FEE.
UM, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS VERY SMALL.
AND, AND SO THERE IS STILL THAT RELATIONSHIP, UM, THAT THEY ESTABLISHED.
SO BUSINESSES, THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT REGULARLY PAY INTO THE OHIO BUSINESS GATEWAY MM-HMM.
AND WE DO GET THOSE, UH, SENT TO US ON A, A WEEKLY BASIS, SO.
I'M GLAD THAT IT WAS ROLLED OUT, BUT THERE'S NO FEE TAKEN OUT NOW.
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THAT'S PRESENTED FROM STAFF, UM, 2.1 MILLION, UM, MORE IN EXPENDITURES THAN WHAT IS ANTICIPATED REVENUE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.JUST WANTED TO CHECK ON THAT DETAIL.
UM, THEN IN THE PREVIOUS, UM, WORK SESSION, I THINK IT WAS, WE WERE GIVEN PRESENTATION, PRELIMINARY PRESENTATION, UM, ALL PERSONNEL, UM, ACCORDING TO OUR ORG CHART, FULLY STAFFED AND FULLY FUNDED FOR THIS BUDGET.
IS THAT STILL THE SAME, UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US NOW? YES.
THAT, WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET? UH, THE, THE FIRST MEETING I CAME TO YOU IS, UH, THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, UM, THE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, AND I WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT BASED ON WHAT CHIEF KNISELY SAID, THESE WILL BE NON-SUPERVISORY POSITIONS.
SO THESE ARE JUST THE BASIC FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS 42 ARE ON THE ORG CHART, 42 ARE FUNDED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, I GAVE THOSE NUMBERS AT THE LAST, UM, WORK SESSION, SO I WOULD STAND BY THOSE.
UM, YEAH, I'M JUST CHECKING, MAKING SURE.
YEAH, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY CHANGE, UM, REDUCED OR INCREASED.
I AM GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK WITH CHIEF KNISELY AS TO, UH, I WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE BUDGET TO SEE IF IT INCLUDED THOSE TWO GRANT POSITIONS OR IF WE, UH, HAD THOSE IN THE ORG CHART TO INCLUDE WHETHER WE WERE GONNA GET THE GRANT MONEY OR NOT.
MY GUESS WOULD BE THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE THEM IN THERE, BUT I WANT TO, I WANNA GO BACK AND RESEARCH THAT TO MAKE SURE, UM, I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD'VE PUT THEM IN THE BUDGET, UM, WHETHER WE WERE GONNA GET THOSE GRAND DOLLARS OR NOT.
SO THAT'S, UM, UH, THAT'S EVEN BETTER THAT WE'RE GETTING GRANT TO REIMBURSE US FOR THOSE COSTS BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT EXTRA MONEY IN THE PERSONNEL FUND FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS.
IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE, UM, WELL, THE FIRE FUND, WHICH IS SUBSIDIZED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS ON THE NUMBERS WE HAD, SO WE HAVE 39 THAT ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED, BUT WE'RE SHORT ONE, SO WE HAVE 38, ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF, 38 FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ACTIVELY TRYING TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS.
AND, BUT, SO THEN, AND HE SAYS HE HAS FOUR CONDITIONAL OFFERS.
SO THE 38 PLUS THE FOUR GIVES US 42, SO 39 PLUS THE THREE THAT WERE APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO TO BE FUNDED.
IF WE HAVE 38 AND WE HAVE FOUR CONDITIONAL OFFERS.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE 42 THAT SHOULD BE FUNDED IN IN ORDER CHART.
PLUS THE ADDITIONAL CAPTAIN POSITION THAT CHIEF TALKED ABOUT IN HIS PRESENTATION LAST YEAR, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN WHAT YOU CALL THE BIG THREE PRESENTATION.
SO IN MY BRAIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S HOW I'M INTERPRETING THOSE NUMBERS.
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL, BRIAN? 38 PLUS FOURS 42? CORRECT.
THE, I BELIEVE THE FIREFIGHTER POSITION THAT WAS FUNDED.
AND CHIEF KNISELY HAS SEVERAL GRANTS THAT ARE PENDING.
SO THE FIREFIGHTER POSITION THAT WAS FUNDED IS A POSITION THAT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET, THAT IS ALREADY WITHIN THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.
SO THAT IS NOT A NEW POSITION THAT DOESN'T, SO IT'S NOT 43, IT'S JUST FUNDING TO PAY FOR ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL THREE, IT'S FUNDING TO PAY FOR ONE OF THE 42.
THE CAPTAIN'S POSITION IS RELATION TO, THERE IS A, UH, I GET THE NAME WRONG, BUT I WANNA CALL IT IT LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE LIEUTENANT, OR THERE'S A TRAINING OFFICER, A TRAINING LIEUTENANT, UH, IN THE DEPARTMENT.
THE CAPTAIN'S POSITION WILL BE STOOD UP AND THE TRAINING LIEUTENANT WILL BE MOVED INTO THAT POSITION, AND THEN THE TRAINING LIEUTENANT'S POSITION WILL THEN BE REMOVED FROM THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.
SO IT IS NOT A NEW POSITION AS FAR AS A BODY GOES.
IT IS A NEW POSITION WITHIN THE MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE TO TAKE ON CERTAIN DUTIES, BUT ALSO ADD ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES TOO AS WELL.
AND, UM, AND I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE THE CAPTAIN ON THE ORG CHART.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IS CORRECT.
THE CAPTAIN WAS ADDED TO THE ORG CHART AT THE TIME THAT THE THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS WERE ADDED TO THE ORG CHART AS WELL.
UH, JIM, ON THE SPREADSHEET, UM, THAT WAS IN THE PACKET.
UH, WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PUT THAT UP HERE.
IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
I DON'T HAVE THAT ON A THUMB DRIVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.
BUT, UH, I DO, I DID BRING IT, UH, PAPER COPY WITH ME SO I COULD.
UM, SO JUST STARTING ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE, UH, GENERAL FUND, UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, LAST FOUR COLUMNS ON THE, FROM THE RIGHT.
ARE YOU READING FROM THE EXPENSES OR THE REVENUES? UH, THIS WOULD, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
DOES IT, DOES IT LOOK LIKE THIS? OH, I CAN SEE THAT CLEARLY FROM HERE,
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UM, WHEREAS THE REVENUES HAVE A GREEN BAR, IT'S PROBABLY BE EXPENDITURES, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE IT'S GOT THE CITY MANAGER'S REQUEST AND THE SECOND TO LAST COMS YES.
SO THE LAST FOUR YOU HAVE THE 2022 REVISED BUDGET, 6 30, 20 22.
THEN YOU HAVE THE EXTENDED 2022, AND THEN YOU HAVE CITY MANAGERS REQUEST, WHICH WOULD BE THE BUDGET WHERE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
AND THEN THE LAST COLUMN WOULD BE A PERCENT CHANGE REVISED? YES.
THAT, THAT IS A PERCENT INCREASE OR DECREASE FOR THE 2023 BUDGET COMPARED TO THE REVISED BUDGET FOR 22.
AND REVISED BUDGET MEANS ANY ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR ANY OF THE FUNDS, UM, IN ADDITION TO ANY SUPPLEMENTALS THAT I BROUGHT TO YOU THAT YOU'VE APPROVED.
SO JUST FOR MY OWN CLARIFICATION, UM, ONE, TWO, THE FOURTH COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT, THE REVISED BUDGET, UH, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING, UH, 6 30, 20 22, UH, THAT'S HALFWAY THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE.
IS THAT WHAT, WHAT MAKES THAT PARTICULAR DATE IMPORTANT? WELL, WHEN WE START PUTTING TOGETHER THE 2023 BUDGET, I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO TAKE A PICTURE IN TIME.
SO THERE'S SO MUCH THAT HAPPENS AFTER JUNE 30.
SO IT JUST IS A VERY EASY, UM, MOMENT IN TIME TO TAKE, TAKE, UH, AND SAY, OKAY, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS PASSED FOR 1 1 22 AND AS OF JUNE 30TH, UM, FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS BUDGET, UH, FOR GENERAL FUND, UM, YOU PASSED A BUDGET LAST YEAR OF 13 MILLION 2 33 500.
AND UH, AS OF JUNE 30TH, THERE WERE SUPPLEMENTALS TO BRING THAT BUDGET NOW TO 15 MILLION 7 55, 800.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DONE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
AND THEN THE THIRD COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT, 2022 EXPENDED WITH THE SAME DATE.
IS THAT JUST HOW MUCH WAS SPENT THROUGH THAT? UH, HALF OF FISCAL YEAR? YES.
THAT'S THE ACTUAL BUDGET YOU SAID WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN THE CHANGE REVISED 2.32 IN THAT FIRST COLUMN IN THE GENERAL FUND, YOU'RE ANTICIPATING WITH THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT IT WILL BE, THE GENERAL FUND WILL BE INCREASED 2.32%.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE ESTIMATE WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD, THE BUDGET WOULD CHANGE, WOULD BE, UH, LARGER NEXT YEAR BY 2.3% MORE THAN THE 2022 BUDGET.
WHICH, IF YOU WERE, COMPARE THAT TO, UH, INFLATION RUNNING AT ABOUT 8% RIGHT NOW, THAT'S, UH, I THINK A GOOD NUMBER.
AND SO THEN IF IT'S IN PARENTHESES, UH, LIKE THE THIRD COLUMN OR THIRD ROW DOWN 14.01%, THAT WOULD BE A REDUCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO WHAT'S PROPOSED THIS YEAR OF 14.01%? YES.
AND, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, FOR THE GAS TAX, THE, UH, BUDGET OF 2.2 MILLION 1 29 COMPARED TO THE REVISED BUDGET OF 2 MILLION 4 76.
SO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR IN GAS TAX IS LOWER THAN, UH, WHAT WE'VE SPENT THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE, IF YOU GET TO A BIGGER NUMBER, YOU GO DOWN A FEW NUMBERS TO THE STATE HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE, AND THAT GOES, THAT'S INCREASED 131%.
SO I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE VARIOUS NUMBERS AND IF THERE'S, IF THEY'RE ALL ZEROS, LIKE YOU GO DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THE BUDGET FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO WHAT'S PROPOSED NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT'S JUST A FLAT LINE EXACTLY THE SAME.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCES, UM, IN THOSE.
THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.
UM, CONGRATULATIONS ON, UH, THE AUDITOR STATE AWARD FOR, UH, WITH DISTINCTION AGAIN THIS YEAR.
OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR THAT, UH, OUTSTANDING EFFORT ON YOUR PART AS FAR AS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, HOW MANY YEARS IN A ROW IS THIS? UM, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S MORE LIKE, UH, ABOUT SIX OUT OF THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
I THINK WE HAD SOME TROUBLE DURING THE COVID YEARS, UH, UM, MEETING SOME DEADLINES.
AND SO I THINK SIX OUTTA THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED THAT AWARD.
KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.
ANYTHING THAT WE NEED, UH, FOR, UM, FOR MONDAY, OR IS THIS GONNA BE, UH, FIRST I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU HAVE FIRST READING, YOU HAVE FIRST READING FOR MONDAY, NOT PASSING IT, UH, SECOND READING, UH, LATER IN NOVEMBER.
I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME MORE, LIKE I SAID, TWEAKS, UH,
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ITEM THREE N, WHICH IS LIQUOR PERMIT NUMBER 1 2 3 3 4 96 FOR THE CAPE LOUNGE AT 51 30 BRAT PIKE, TONY.UH, IS THE MAYOR STATED THIS IS A LIQUOR PERMIT? IT'S A TRANSFER FOR AN EXISTING PERMIT AT THE CAPE LOUNGE AT 51 30 GRANT PIKE.
UH, THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE, UH, POLICE AND FIRE DIVISIONS WITH NO OBJECTIONS TO THE TRANSFER.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE A MOTION ON MONDAY TO, UM, TO RESPOND TO THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL WITH NO OBJECTIONS TO THE APPROVAL OF THAT TRANSFER.
UM, I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF, UH, DIFFERENT PERMIT CLASSES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LIQUOR PERMIT, INCLUDING D ONE, D TWO, D THREE, D THREE A AND D D SIX, BUT NO MAGICAL D FIVE.
SO, UM, I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
IS THERE A NEW OWNER? DOES THAT KINDA WHAT THIS TYPICALLY WOULD? IT, IT COULD BE A NEW OWNER OR A NEW HOLDING PARTY ON THE LAKER PERMIT, BUT IT, IT IS AN EXISTING PERMIT.
IT'S NOT ANY CHANGE TO THE, THE TYPE OR LOCATION OF THE PERMIT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.
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NEXT IS ITEM THREE OH, WHICH IS LIQUOR PERMIT NUMBER 37 98 99.THIS IS THE MARATHON STATION, 70 51 OLD TROY PIKE.
TONY, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS.
UH, SO THIS, UH, I THINK HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO, UH, MOST OF COUNSEL POSSIBLY THROUGH THE, UH, LAW DIRECTOR, BUT IT INVOLVES, UM, PART OF A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS NEGOTIATED AS FAR AS THE MARATHON LIQUOR PERMIT.
THAT HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE D FIVE LIQUOR PERMIT.
MATT, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS MORE SPECIFICALLY OR DO YOU WANT ME TO NO, I CAN'T.
WE, UH, THERE'S A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN PREPARED THAT BASICALLY MARATHONS GOING DO TRADE IN, FOR LACK OF A BETTER PHRASE.
THEY'RE D FIVE OR C1 C TWO, THEY'RE GONNA PUT THE D FIVE IN SAFE KEEPING, THEY'RE NOT GONNA OPERATE AS A D FIVE ANYMORE.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA RE WITHDRAW OUR CURRENT OBJECTION TO D FIVE IN ORDER THEM TO GET A PROPER C1 C TWO CARRY OUT.
SO IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE LAW DIRECTOR THAT WE, UH, RESPOND TO THE HIGHER DIVISION OF LI CONTROL, NO OBJECTIONS TO THE C1 C2 PERMIT, UH, FOR, UH, MARATHON.
AND ONCE THAT'S APPROVED, THEN THEY'LL, UM, NOT OBJECT TO, UH, GIVING UP THEIR D FIVE LIQUOR PERMIT AT THAT LOCATION WE HAVE THAT WOULD END THE LITIGATION.
AND, UH, SO WE HAVE TO WITHDRAW BEFORE THEY'LL CHANGE IT TO A, FROM A D FIVE? NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO WITHDRAW IT, IT ON THEIR BEHALF.
I MEAN, OUR COMPLAINT, SO NO, OUR OBJECTION, WE'RE GOING TO, THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO, UH, ALLOW THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL TO APPROVE THE C1 AND C2.
ONCE THEY GET THAT APPROVED, THEN UM, THEY WOULD WITHDRAW, UH, THEY WOULD TERMINATE THEIR D FIVE LIQUOR PERMIT, AND THEN THE CITY WOULD END ITS, UH, STEPS TO, TECHNICALLY THEY PUT THEIR D FIVE AND SAFE KEEPING, BUT THEY NO LONGER OPERATE.
THEY CAN SELL IT OR LET IT GO BACK TO THE STATE.
WHATEVER IT'S BOTTOM LINE IS, IT SATISFIES THE PROBLEM THAT WE ALL HAD WITH THAT LOCATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, RICHARD, I DO APPRECIATE THE SETTLEMENT AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UM, MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE IS, UH, WHEN CAN WE GET THESE SHOTS OFF THE LIQUOR BOARD, OFF THE RAIDER BOARD LIQUOR BOARD LIQUOR ON THE RAIDER BOARD? EITHER WAY.
SO, IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, MATT? YES, SIR.
UM, IT DOES NOT SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT ON THEIR CURRENT READER BOARD RIGHT NOW, IT SAYS, HEY, COME IN AND BUY SHOTS WITH US.
SO BASICALLY THE ANSWER IS, SO LONG AS THEY HAVE A D FIVE, THEY CAN OPERATE AT THAT D FIVE SELLING HARD LIQUOR.
SO ONCE THEY SIGN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, BASICALLY THAT WILL PUT IN THE MECHANISM TO PUT THE D FIVE AND SAFE KEEPING, WE WITHDRAW OUR C1 C TWO OBJECTION, AND IT CONVERTS, NOT CONVERTS, BUT THE ISSUES OF C1 C TWO.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME TRANSITION WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THEIR C1 C TWO TO GET APPROVED.
UH, AND IT, THE SOME AGREEMENT DOES NOT SPEAK TO TAKING THE SHOTS OFF OF THE LOOKING BOARD THAT MORNING.
REALLY THROUGH THE CONCEPT OF C1 C TWO, IT'S ONLY CARRYOUT ONLY, JUST LIKE A NORMAL PACKAGE OR GAS STATION OR CARRYOUT WOULD NORMALLY BE OPPOSED TO A FIVE NINE.
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MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, AND THIS MAY BE INTERNAL WITH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, IS ONCE, ONCE WE HAD THIS AGREED UPON WITH NO OBJECTION THAT THE LIQUOR COMMISSION WAS GONNA EXPEDITE THIS, AND WE WERE GONNA PUT THAT ON THE SHELF, UH, FOR THEM, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS GONNA BE SIGNED, UM, MY BIGGEST THING TOO IS I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS OFF THE READER BOARD QUICK, FAST, IN A HURRY.SO IF WE, WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF DATE, UM, UH, SENT TO ALL OF COUNSEL WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE DONE, I'M SURE OUR ZONING DEPARTMENT, UH, WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM OF, UH, VISITING THAT LOCATION, UH, TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF.
[ Board And Commission Appointments * Citizens Water And Sewer Advisory Board - Reappointments]
THREE P, WHICH IS BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.WE HAVE CITIZENS, WATER AND SEWER CULTURE, DIVERSITY, UH, CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION, MILITARY AND VARIANCE COMMISSION, AND PROPERTY MEETINGS REVIEW BOARD.
SO, UH, TONY, YOU'VE BEEN BUSY.
THIS IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN WE HAVE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT A LOT OF REAPPOINTMENT TO VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY.
UH, MY COMMENTS FOR ALL, UH, FOUR OF THESE BOARDS, UH, WOULD REFERENCE THE FACT THAT IF AN UPDATED BACKGROUND CHECK WAS, UH, NECESSARY OR DUE FOR, UH, ANY OF THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT, THEN THEY HAVE BEEN PROCESSED THROUGH, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES ACCORDINGLY.
SO THE FIRST UP IS THE CITIZEN'S WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD.
UH, IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT WE REAPPOINT SETH BREWER AND SAMUEL ROBINSON TO A TERMING JANUARY 1ST, 2026.
ON THE CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION OF REAPPOINTMENTS, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT GENE NEWBY AND TARA PURVIS, UH, TO THIS COMMISSION FOR TERMING DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
ON THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION.
IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT KEON.
LASTLY, AND DANAY FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
AND ON THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD, UM, THE RECOMMENDED REAPPOINTMENTS ARE LEONA GRAY, JOHN ROBERTS, AND RICHARD WINKLER FOR TERMS ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
I WILL NOTE YOU'VE SEEN, UM, A NUMBER OF, UH, VACANCY POSTINGS FROM ME IN THE LAST WEEK, UH, FOR VARIOUS, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AFTER WE HAD JUST REACHED FULL, UH, FULL STAFFING OF ALL THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE THOSE COME, WE, WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, ONE THAT WAS, UH, RESIGNED DUE TO HEALTH REASONS.
WE HAD ANOTHER, UH, PERSON, CINDY DAVIS, WHO HAD ANNOUNCED EARLIER THAT SHE WAS GOING TO BE RESIGNING FROM THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION, AND THEN THE REST OF THOSE, UH, VACANCIES THAT HAD BEEN CREATED, OR, UM, POSITIONS WHERE THERE WERE EXPIRING TERMS OF MEMBERS OF THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
AND THEY DO NOT WISH TO SEEK, UH, REAPPOINTMENT, UM, UH, TO THOSE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE RECRUITING NOW.
SO I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO YOUR CONTACTS AND IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, ALL THE POSTINGS FOR THOSE VACANCIES ARE UP, UH, ON THE WEBSITE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND WE'LL BE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE VACANCIES THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH.
SO WITH THAT, UH, MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO, UH, PLACE FOUR MOTIONS FOR REAPPOINTMENTS FOR THESE RESPECTIVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY.
FOR QUESTIONS, RICHARD? UM, TONY, I, I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, AND THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS CUZ IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY A FEW OF OUR CURRENT, UH, CHAIRS AND BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY ATTENDANCE ISSUES WITH ANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO REAPPOINT? NO, THAT'S PART OF THE VALIDATION OF OKAY, THOSE SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT.
AND, UM, THERE WAS, UH, ONE THAT WAS TIED TO A HEALTH REASON THAT WE HAD ON ONE BOARD THAT HAD MISSED, I THINK, UH, 12 MEETING CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS, UM, AND COULD EVEN CONTACT THE PERSON.
BUT WE FOUND OUT LATER, UH, THROUGH AN ADDITIONAL SOURCE THAT THAT PERSON HAD HAD A FALL AND HAD BEEN IN A NURSING HOME, AND SO THEY WEREN'T EVEN IN CONTACT OR SELLING THEIR HOME AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, UM, WE DO GO AFTER THOSE WHEN THEY'RE IDENTIFIED BY THE STAFF LIAISONS FOR AN ATTENDANCE ISSUE.
SO THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF LIAISON REACHING OUT TO THEM AND TRYING TO ADDRESS ATTENDANCE ISSUES.
UM, IF, IF THAT DOESN'T GET A RESPONSE, THEN THEY TURN IT OVER TO ME.
I EITHER SEND A LETTER OR CONTACT THE PEOPLE PERSONALLY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND THEN EITHER GET THEM BACK ON TRACK WITH ATTENDANCE OR ASK THEM TO RESIGN IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO, UM, OR TO THE BOARD COMMISSION TO WHICH THEY WERE APPOINTED.
BUT ALL OF THESE, UH, THAT WE HAVE HERE BEFORE US TONIGHT, ATTENDANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING ON TO MONDAY? OKAY, NEXT ON
[ 2023 Council Work Session/City Council Meeting Schedules]
LAST WOULD BE ITEM THREE Q, WHICH[02:30:01]
IS THE 2023 COUNCIL WORK SESSION AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULES.AND YOU'VE SEEN THESE EACH, UH, YEAR AS, UH, ANNUAL MOTION TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL, IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN TO, UH, PROVE 2023 COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULES.
UM, BASICALLY I'VE JUST LEFT, UH, THE SCHEDULES AS WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING, WHICH IS, UH, SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAYS OF THE MONTH FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
AND, UM, THEN THE WEEK PRIOR TO THOSE, UH, HAVING A WORK SESSION, UM, SCHEDULED AT, UH, 6:00 PM FOR BOTH SETS OF MEETINGS.
UH, REAL QUICK, SO 6:00 PM I KNOW THAT WE MADE THAT CHANGE.
IS THAT WORKING OUT FOR EVERYBODY FOR FROM THE, UH, THE COUNCIL MEETING SIDE SIX O'CLOCK AS WELL? HAS THAT BEEN GOOD FOR EVERYBODY? OKAY.
AND THEN, UH, WE'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE THINGS LIKE TONIGHT WHERE THERE'S SPECIAL, UH, EVENTS OR SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE MEETING SCHEDULE.
AND WE'VE ALSO TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE, UH, FOR 2023.
SO, UM, I WOULD ASK FOR COUNSEL'S APPROVAL THIS BY MOTION ON MONDAY SO THAT I CAN BEGIN TO, UH, DISPENSE THESE TO THE VARIETY OF PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT NEED TO KNOW OUR SCHEDULES FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND I WILL, UM, GET THEM OFFICIALLY ADOPTED.
YES, RICHARD MAYOR, I'M GONNA MAKE MY ANNUAL PITCH AS I DO ALMOST EVERY YEAR FOR A SUMMER MEETING SCHEDULE WITH ONE COUNCIL MEETING IN MAY, JUNE, AND JULY.
UH, THIS IS PRACTICE DONE BY OTHER COUNCILS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, I KNOW A LOT OF US HAVE YOUNG FAMILIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND TAKE VACATIONS.
UH, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT PITCH AGAIN THIS YEAR AS I'VE DONE BEFORE.
UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT ACTUALLY.
I MEAN, I THINK, UM, IT'D BE UP TO THE REST OF YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT, UM, FOR THOSE THREE MONTHS, MAY, JUNE, JULY OR MAY, JUNE, JULY OR JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, UH, I THINK IT WAS MAY, JUNE AND JULY, UM, I MEAN, AGAIN, WE CAN HONESTLY HMM.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S A MATTER OF, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT.
I THINK BRIAN, IT'S JUST FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, IS THERE, UM, WELL, I MEAN IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE, WE COULD CALL THE SPECIAL, WE COULD CALL SPECIAL MEETING.
I WOULD JUST, IF, IF WE TOOK THE ROUTE OF MINIMIZING OUR SUMMER SCHEDULE TO JUST ONE MEETING, I WOULD ASK THAT EVERYONE BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT SOMETHING MAY COME UP AND THEN MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE FOR A SPECIAL MEETING SOMETIMES DURING THOSE THREE MONTHS IF THAT PUT SOME TYPE OF, UH, HINDRANCE ON STAFF BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNDER SOME TIMELINES FOR CERTAIN THINGS TOO.
SO, WELL, BASED ON THE, BASED ON COUNCIL'S SCHEDULE, UH, ASSUMING THAT YOU CANCELED THE LAST MEETING OF THOSE MONTHS, BUT HELD THOSE DATES FREE ON YOUR CALENDAR, RIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE A WAY THAT, THAT WE AS STAFF COULD RESPOND IF WE HAD ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED WITHIN A TIMELY MANNER.
BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S DECISION ON WHETHER I WOULD THINK THOSE MEETINGS THEN WOULD BE A VERY SHORT MEETING IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT JUST WAS URGENT THAT WE HAD TO TAKE CARE OF.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE WOULD HAVE A FULL, FULL SCALE AGENDA.
IT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME UP THAT FOR AN EMERGENCY PURPOSE.
SO WE, WE CAN, SO WE CAN ADAPT IF THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL WOULD, WOULD WISH TO DO, WOULD BE TO, TO ONLY HOLD, UH, ONE MEETING THOSE THREE MONTHS, WHATEVER THAT LOOKED LIKE.
WE COULD, WE COULD ADAPT TO THAT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT.
IS THERE, WHAT'S OTHER FEELINGS NEEDED? I JUST WOULD RATHER DO JUNE, JULY, AUGUST INSTEAD OF MAY, JUNE, JULY.
JUST, I THINK THAT'S BEGINNING TRADITIONAL, HONESTLY.
YOU KNOW, GREAT PART ABOUT IT IS WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION NOW, SO YOU MAY WHATEVER THREE MONTHS.
I JUST, I THINK, YOU KNOW, START A SCHOOL IN AUGUST AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS A TEACHER, WE GOT KIDS.
AUGUST SEEMS TO BE A HEADACHE TIME.
I'M FINE WITH JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO JUNE, JULY, AUGUST HAVING JUST, UH, NO SECOND MEETING A MONTH, BUT KIND OF HOLDING YOUR CALENDAR OPEN TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE NEED SOMETHING WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION THAT IF SOMETHING COMES UP, HEY WE GOTTA HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
AS LONG AS EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT, THEN I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T SEE ANY ISSUES AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS THERE'S NO STAFF ISSUE.
AND PART OF STAFF ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES WOULD BE HAVING ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE NOT GONNA BE CORRECT.
THEY CAN'T ANTICIPATE THAT A PRE-PLAN ACCORDINGLY.
IT MIGHT MAKE FOR SOME LONGER MEETINGS OF THE ONE MEETING WE HAVE IN THOSE THREE MONTHS.
UH, JUST MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO THANK THIS OVER A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE MAKE A COMMITMENT TO IT.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, SINCE WE'VE GOT SOME TIME TO DO THIS, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT BROUGHT UP AS A, UM, WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS IT MORE THOROUGHLY, UM, AND LOOK AT, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
UH, IT SOUNDS GOOD ON, ON THE SURFACE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
[02:35:01]
ANY OF THOSE.SO GLENN, I WOULD SAY I'M FINE WITH IT AS LONG AS CUTTING THE MEETING MEETINGS.
THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS IN HALF DOESN'T CREATE TWICE AS LONG MEETINGS BECAUSE TWO AND A HALF HOURS IS TAXING ENOUGH FOR THREE HOURS.
WE DON'T WANNA BE HERE UNTIL, I DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
I WANT TO CLOCK STUFF AGAIN LIKE WE DID IN THE PAST.
SO YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH IT AS LONG AS STAFF FEELS THAT IT, IT WOULDN'T SUBSTANTIALLY LENGTHEN THE ONE MEETING WE HAD.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT, SEE IF THERE'S ANY HISTORICAL ITEMS ON THOSE AGENDAS OVER THAT TIME AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND IF, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE AGENDAS ARE TYPICALLY PRETTY LIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THING.
IF THOSE AGENDAS ARE TYPICALLY HEAVY, WELL THEN YOU, YOU MIGHT GET A DIFFERENT, YOU MIGHT GET A DIFFERENT THOUGHT FROM STAFF.
TONY, DOES IT GIVE YOU SIGNIFICANT HEARTBURN IF WE BRING THIS BACK TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION AND HAVE IT AT THE LAST MEETING? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY LIGHT TO GET THE SCHEDULES OUT.
UH, CUZ THERE'S, UH, THE COUNCIL MEETING, THE WAY THEY FALL THIS YEAR, IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL, IT WOULDN'T GET APPROVED UNTIL NOVEMBER 28TH, WHICH WOULD, UH, BE SIGNIFICANTLY PASSED WHEN WE'VE APPROVED THESE, UM, BEFORE.
AND THIS GOES FROM EVERYTHING TO SWAG IT TO THE MEDIA, TO UH, THERE'S RIPPLE EFFECTS TO THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOAD TO OUR SYSTEM WITH THE MEAN DATES AND THEN THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ALSO BUILD THEIR CALENDARS AND SCHEDULES OFF OF THE COUNCIL'S SCHEDULE.
WHY DON'T MEETING SPACE? SO WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS, UH, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST ONE MEETING ON THE, ON THE MONDAY COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, EVERYBODY THINK THROUGH THE TIMEFRAME OF IT BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY'S MEETING.
SO WE'LL JUST HAVE THAT BROADER DISCUSSION ON MONDAY WHEN THIS IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
UH, WE'LL JUST PLACE IT AS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON MONDAY.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, IF THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES OR ANY BRIAN, THAT YOU FIND THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS RIGHT, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON MONDAY, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND LEAVE THE SCHEDULE AS IT IS AND AS WE NEAR THOSE TIME PERIODS, IT'S EASIER TO LOOK AHEAD 30 DAYS THAN IT IS TO LOOK AHEAD SIX MONTHS FROM NOW OR EIGHT MONTHS FROM NOW TO SEE WHAT THE SCHEDULE MIGHT BE LIKE.
AND THEN IF, IF IT LOOKS LIKE STAFF COULD CONSOLIDATE ISSUES, WE COULD JUST VOTE TO SKIP A MEETING.
AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO SCHEDULING.
JUST CUZ YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE PASTORS HERE FOR INVOCATIONS, THE VIDEOGRAPHER, UH, SWAG, THAT ALL THESE THINGS ARE TIED IN.
THE MORE YOU CHANGE THE SCHEDULES AROUND AFTER THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED, IT, IT CREATES A LOT OF WORK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO ALL THE, THEY GET I SEE.
IS I AGREE WITH GLENN, I I WOULDN'T WANNA SEE US NOT HAVE A SECOND MEETING BUT HAVE A FIVE HOUR MARATHON MEETING ABSOLUTELY.
SO IF THAT WAS GONNA BE AN ISSUE, I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF IT.
SO IN THE, IN THE INTEREST THEN OF ALL OF THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS COUNSEL COULD ADOPT AT THE NEXT MEETING ON MONDAY, YOU COULD ADOPT THE SCHEDULE AS PROPOSED BY THE CLERK.
YOU COULD THEN HAVE A WORK SESSION AND TALK ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF CANCELING MEETINGS IN THE SECOND MEETINGS IN JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST AT THAT WORK SESSION, GIVING THE CLERK TIME TO NOTICE ALL OF THE PEOPLE HE NEEDS TO NOTICE STAFF THE TIME, THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND STILL GIVING EVERYONE ADVANCED NOTICE OF WHAT A A, THE SCHEDULE AT LEAST WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE 90% OF THE MEETINGS.
DID YOU SAY THAT WOULD BE TOO LATE TO TRY TO HAVE THAT? NO, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SCHEDULE TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE EASIER IF WE COULD MAKE A DECISION NOW, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE SOME CONCERNS, SO I WOULD RATHER APPROVE THE SCHEDULE AS IS AND THEN TAKE SOME MEETINGS OFF THEN TO, UH, DO IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
DON, I AGREE WITH WHAT, UH, UM, THE CLERK OF COUNCIL JUST STATED.
I'D RATHER SEE US ADOPT THE SCHEDULE AND THEN IF WE, UM, MOVE FORWARD IN ELIMINATING DATES, AS BRIAN SUGGESTED, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION DOES.
WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKS AHEAD AND REALIZES THAT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO, UH, FOR THE UPCOMING MEETING, THEY, THEY CANCEL THEIR MEETING.
I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AHEAD AND SEE WHAT'S THE SUMMER GONNA BE LIKE.
AND I DO WANT THE INFORMATION THAT BRIAN'S TALKING ABOUT, I WANT TO GO BACK AND REVIEW PREVIOUS AGENDAS AND SEE ARE WE SLAMMED IN AUGUST? UM, AS LONG AS THERE'S A A LEGITIMATE REASON TO TAKE THAT SECOND MEETING AND, AND KNOCK IT OUT, UH, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
[02:40:01]
UH, AS GLENN STATED, I DON'T WANNA SEE US KNOCK IT OUT SO THAT WE'VE GOT A MARATHON MEETING THE FIRST OF THE MONTH OF EACH OF THOSE THREE MONTHS.I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE A JUNCTURE TO DO IT, UH, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED ALSO WOULD BE THE RULES OF COUNSEL SPEAK TO WHEN THE WORK SESSIONS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED.
YOU CONSIDER THAT AT THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.
UM, SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT THE SCHEDULES OUT AND THEN IF YOU WANNA ADOPT A SUMMER SCHEDULE, WE'D HAVE THE DATA FROM BRIAN AND WE COULD MAKE THE CHANGES AS PART OF THE RULES OF COUNCIL CHANGES AT THAT.
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, BRIAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE SOLD ON IT HAS TO BE THE LAST MEETING.
IF IT SEEMS TO BE A TREND OF THERE'S MORE STUFF AT THE LAST MEETING VERSUS THE FIRST MEETING THAN LET'S CANCEL THE FIRST MEETING IN THE MONTH WHEN WE GO TO ADJUST.
IT JUST, I KNOW JUNE 30 IS A BIG BUDGET TIME, SO IF IT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE THAT SECOND MEETING VERSUS THE FIRST YEAH.
AND, AND TO STAFF, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE FIRST MEETING OF THIS MONTH AND THE LAST MEETING OF THE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US.
IT WAS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT I WAS MAKING THAT SUGGESTION.
BUT WHATEVER THE WORKLOAD, PREVIOUS WORKLOAD WOULD DICTATE WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF WOULD HAVE.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO, UH, TONY'S RECOMMENDATION? FOR SURE.
I'M JUST GLAD WE HAD A CONVERSATION.
I, I MEAN IN YEARS PASS USUALLY GETS SHOT DOWN IN FIVE SECONDS, SO THIS IS GREAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL KEEP IT ON THE LIST.
UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, AN IMMEDIATE NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING.
SO TONY, IF YOU WOULD READ OKAY.
WE HAVE, UH, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THREE REASONS.
UH, THE FIRST TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, THE SECOND FOR DISCUSSIONS WITH AN ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY CONCERNING DISPUTES THAT ARE THE SUBJECT OF PENDING OR EMINENT COURT ACTION.
AND THE THIRD, PREPARING FOR CONDUCTING OR REVIEWING NEGOTIATIONS OR BARGAINING SESSIONS WITH PUBLIC EMPLOYEES CONCERNING THEIR COMPENSATION OR OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT.
IS THERE A MOTION, ANITA? SO MOVED.
IS THERE A SECOND? TOM? I WILL SECOND.
AND MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PASSES SIX TO ZERO.
WE'RE MOVING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'LL COME OUT AND ANNOUNCE IF ANY ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN.
OKAY, IT IS 9 33 AND WE HAVE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC ACTION ITEMS TAKEN.
SO AT 9 33 THIS WORK SESSION IS ADJOURNED.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.