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WHEN I READY?

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WHO DID? YEAH.

WE'RE GOOD.

IT IS

[ AGENDA MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road September 28, 2022 6:00 P.M. ]

FIVE 50.

OH, IT'S 6:00 PM THE HUBER HEIGHTS MILITARY VETERAN COMMISSION MEETING CALLED TO ORDER.

I WILL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN WE'LL ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO STAND AS OUR FRIEND RAY DOES THE INVOCATION ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ADD TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS ON NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

LET US PRAY.

DEAR LORD, TODAY, IN ALL DAYS, WE CHOOSE TO HONOR OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS WORTHY MEN AND WOMEN WHO GAVE OF THEMSELVES WHEN THEY WERE CALLED UPON TO SERVE AND PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.

WE ASK FATHER THAT YOU BLESS THEM FOR THEIR UNSELFISH SERVICE AND FOR THE DEDICATION THEY HAVE SHOWN TO PRESERVE OUR FREEDOMS, OUR SAFETY, AND OUR COUNTRY'S HERITAGE.

PLEASE, FATHER, BLESS THEM ABUNDANTLY FOR THE HARDSHIPS THEY FACE, FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MAKE AND FOR THEIR MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO AMERICA'S VICTORIES OVER TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION.

WE RESPECT THEM.

WE THANK THEM, WE ARE PROUD OF THEM, AND WE PRAY THAT YOU'LL WATCH OVER THEM, THESE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, HOLD OUR TROOPS IN YOUR LOVING HANDS.

PROTECT THEM AS THEY PROTECT US.

BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES FOR THE SELFLESS ACTS THEY PERFORM FOR US IN OUR TIME OF BE LORD, PLEASE GUIDE US IN ALL THAT WE DO AND BLESS ALL THE MILITARY AND VETERANS WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS.

THESE THINGS I HUMBLY ASK IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST ARE LORD AND SAGER.

AMEN.

AMEN.

PLEASE BE SEAT.

ROLL CALL.

UH, YES.

MR. BAITZ.

HERE.

MR. BRINER.

HERE.

MR. WINDSOR.

EXCUSED.

MR. GERARD.

HERE.

MR. GRIGGS.

HERE.

MR. ESTEVAN.

HERE.

MR. PRESENT.

MRS. PLE.

HERE.

MR. HELD HERE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF MR. WINDSOR? SO MOVED.

SECOND'S BEEN, UH, MOVEMENT.

PROPERLY SECONDED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ON THE TABLE? SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSERS HAVE THE SAME, RIGHT? THEY'RE BEING NONE.

MOTION CARRIED.

THEN WE'LL ASK FOR THE SAME.

FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, YOU GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

MOVE THE MINUTES BE APPROVED NOW.

SECOND MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.

NOW WE'RE HERE FOR THE MOMENT.

MOST OF YOU ARE HERE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT LIKE THIS WHEN WE HAVE OUR MEETINGS, BUT USUALLY WE ONLY GET IT WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL GUESTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

AND WE'LL TAKE THAT.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO OR ANNOUNCEMENTS OF SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS, MRS. MARY MCDERMOT, OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO VETERANS, COMMUNITY AND COUNTRY, EVERYONE, BUT UTTER BETWEEN THE, BEFORE I START, UH, IT'S CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE AS MANY OF OUR VETERANS WOULD ENJOY WHAT MARY FOR ARE HERE.

AND I THINK THAT IS CERTAINLY THE RIGHT THING.

ALSO SHOW MS. MARY MCDERMOT IS BEING RECOGNIZED TODAY FOR HER DEVOTED SERVICE FOR OVER SIX YEARS TO HONORING ALL MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY CURRENT FORMER AND RETIRED IN 2016, MS. MCDERMOT DECIDED TO PUT INTO ACTION THE GREAT AFFECTION.

SHE HAS HER ACTION,

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FORMER AND RETIRED MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY SERVICES LAKE.

SHE FACILITATED A MONTH MONTHLY FREE BREAKFAST FOR ALL VETERANS AT THE LONGHORN STATE RESTAURANT ON MILLER LANE.

THE BREAKFAST IS A SUPER PAIR CONSISTING OF EGGS, SALTED FRI POTATOES, PANCAKES, COFFEE, AND SERVED EAT EACH VETERAN BY A GROUP OF POLITICAL CHILDREN WHO MS. MC ENLISTED FOR SERVING DUTY.

SHE ALSO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EQUATE THE CHILDREN WITH THE CONCEPT OF SERVICE TO VETERANS AND PATRIOT.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE BREAKFAST, MSN USUALLY PROVIDES A SHORT MESSAGE IN A PRAYER HONORING THE VETERAN WHEN THE CHILDREN SAVE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.

FOR THOSE THERE ARE MANY PATRIOTS IN THE UNITED STATES WHO HAVE GREAT FOR HAVE SERVED.

NOT ALL ARE SO PROMINENTLY ACTIVE AS MS. BEDERMAN.

THROUGH HER CONSISTENT EFFORTS, MS. MCDERMOT HAS SERVED AS A MODEL AND INSPIRATION TO SUPPORT A MILITARY VETERANS OF ALL SERVICES.

ALL OF OUR EFFORTS HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED DURING HER FREETIME AND WITHOUT ANY REATION WHATSOEVER, EXCEPT FOR THE WELL DESERVED FEELING OF PRIDE AND ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE VERY NOBLE MISSION.

THE SUPPORT OF OUR MILITARY VETERAN.

ALTHOUGH THERE WAS A SLIGHT PAUSE AND THE FREE BREAKFAST OPPORTUNITY DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, IT NOW CONTINUES AS A FREE MONTHLY ACTIVITY AT THE LONG STATE HOUSE RESTAURANT.

MS. MC KEEPS AN IMPROV EMAIL LESS OF THE NO VETERAN WHO ENJOYS THE EVENT, REMAINS UNAWARE OF THE BREAKFAST SCHEDULE.

AS A VETERAN, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE BREAKFAST EVERY MONTH.

I CAN ASSURE EVERYONE THAT NOT ONLY IS THE FOOD GREAT, BUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH MANY OTHER VETERANS IN CHAT ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCES IS A TRUE DELIGHT.

IT IS MY VERY DISTINCT PLEASURE TO NOMINATE MARY MC FROM THE HUB RIGHTS MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION.

OUTSTANDING VETERAN SERVICE RECOGNITION AWARD FOR HER DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO HONORING ALL MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY.

ABOUT WAY PLEASE.

FOR JUST, UH OH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WOULD YOU GO THERE AND STAND JUST BY THE TABLE? WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THEM COME UP AND I WAS GONNA SAY, FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A PICTURE WITH, UM, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THIS MART GUYS CAN COME DOWN AND HANG AND I'LL ON YOUR PERIOD, MOVE OUT ALL.

THEY SURELY LISTEN TO HIM AS BREAKFAST.

IF, IF ANYBODY HAS A PHONE, THEY'D LIKE ME TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH SOMEBODY ON THOSE SIDE.

AND JUST HOW YOU DOING? GOOD.

ADJUST.

WE'RE GOOD.

AND THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE STANDING STILL UP, WILL YOU JUST MAYBE COME AND STAND BEHIND? YEAH.

CAUSE Y'ALL STAND.

WELL, IF YOU HAVE TO CRUNCH EM TOGETHER.

YEAH.

AND, AND THEN THERE IT IS.

ONE, TWO, OF COURSE.

SURE.

I'LL

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GET ONE WITH YOU BY MYSELF.

OKAY.

UM, I'M PROBABLY GONNA GET REALLY EMOTIONAL CAUSE I REALLY ENJOY IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR VETERANS PASS RECENTLY, I JUST, YESTERDAY'S SAD ABOUT ALL THIS, BUT I TRULY ENJOY IT.

I HOPE YOU GUYS, I HOPE YOU GUYS' YOU WANNA, IT'S JUST A REALLY WONDERFUL TIME.

IT'S A GREAT TIME FOR US TO GET BACK AND TO HAVE FUN.

UM, JUST ENJOY EACH OTHER'S PRESENCE AND JUST LET EACH OTHER KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE FOR ONE ANOTHER AND SAME COMRADERY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE CHILDREN THAT YOU HAVE DURING THE SERVING AND TAKING NEW ORDERS.

THEY ARE OUTSTANDING WORKERS AND AS POLITE AS THEY CAN BE.

AND THAT'S THE PART THAT I THINK OF THE MOST.

WELL, GOOD.

YEAH.

THEN THAT'S MY, UM, THOSE ARE MY KIDS AND MY EXTENDED FAMILY.

AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY NOWADAYS IN SCHOOL AND AT HOME, GET TAUGHT ENOUGH ABOUT GETTING BACK TO ONE ANOTHER.

UM, LEARNING HOW TO GIVE TO ONE ANOTHER WITHOUT RECEIVING SOME TYPE OF PAYMENT.

ORATION, I APPRECIATE THIS AWARD THAT I DID NOT DO IT FOR THIS.

UM, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO FILL LOVE AND KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE OUT THERE AND THAT WE'VE DONE FOR OUR COUNTRY TO GIVE US FREEDOM AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST EVERY DAY I DID GO ON FOR HOURS, BUT .

BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU AS YOU HAVE SERVED US AND EVERYONE ELSE AROUND US.

AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE WORLD, YOU KNOW.

SO WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR, I'M NOT GOING DON'T FORGET NINE SATURDAY.

SO NINE O'CLOCK SATURDAY IF YOU WANNA COME.

AND IF YOU WANT, UH, YOU CAN MAKE A LIST OF YOUR NAME AND NUMBERS AND THEN I'LL ADD YOU TO MY TEXT MESSAGE AND I'LL CALL YOU AND LET YOU KNOW.

AND THEN I FORGOT TO SAY HI.

APPRECIATE.

I JUST REMEMBER.

HEY, GOOD.

SEE YOU.

YOU OUGHT COME BACK.

HEY, MARY, HERE'S A LITTLE POUCH VISIT.

IT'S OKAY.

YES.

I KEEP IT FROM BEING SCRATCH.

OKAY.

GOOD TAKE.

I DIDN'T WANNA, I DIDN'T WANNA HIDE HERE.

HOLD OVER.

DIDN'T WANT HURRY YET.

OH, IT'LL GO.

SORRY GUYS.

THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

COMING OUT.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS FOR THOSE COMMISSIONERS THAT ATTENDED THE WAYNE MILITARY AND VETERANS APPRECIATION NIGHT.

JUST A FEW WORDS TO TELL US ABOUT THE EVENT, HOW IT WENT, WHAT YOU LIKED ABOUT IT.

WELL, I KNOW TONY WENT, BUT HE, UH, I WENT, OKAY, TOM, WHAT YOU GOT? I, I WENT AND IT WAS A VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD EVENT.

WAS NOT WELL ATTENDED, BUT IT WAS A VERY GOOD EVENT.

AND I WAS, I'M NOT FROM THIS AREA, SO I, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WAYNE FOOTBALL OR WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I WAS, I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED CUZ WE, WE LINED UP, UM, JUST MINUTES BEFORE KICKOFF AND PROBABLY TAKEOFF WAS AT, UH, SEVEN O'CLOCK AND PROBABLY ABOUT THREE MINUTES TILL SEVEN, THE WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACHES

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COME OVER AND SHOOK ALL OUR HANDS.

AND I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO, SO GREAT.

YOU KNOW, THOSE GUYS, THEY, IT WAS LIKE THEIR NOT THE FIRST GAME OF THE YEAR, BUT IT WAS, UH, I THINK THE SECOND.

THE SECOND.

YEAH.

AND, UH, AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS VERY, VERY KIND TO THEM TO DO THAT.

IN FACT, I WANNA SETTLE, GET IN TROUBLE.

BUT DID THE, THE, THE N C I C OF THE, UH, WAYNE, UM, JT C R RTC RIGHT.

HE WAS THERE.

I MEAN, HE SHOOK OUR, OUR HANDS ALSO.

SO, UH, BUT IT, IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY NICE, GOOD, GOOD EVENT.

OKAY, GOOD.

YEAH.

I WENT LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR.

MY, UH, SON HAD C AND THEN I DIDN'T WANT TO RISK IT, SO, CAUSE I WAS GONNA GO TO THE BREAKFAST TOO.

RAY MADE ME COME OVER HIS HOUSE AND SIGN THE CERTIFICATE AND I'M LIKE, OH, MY SON HAS JUST BEEN EXPOSED.

BUT HE MADE ME WEAR A MASK AND SPRAY DRINK BLEACH.

SO IT WAS ALL GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT UPDATE IS THE VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION CEREMONY FOR THOSE THAT ATTENDED.

UH, SOME OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT, UH, WE HAVE CUSTODY OF OUR GRANDSON FROM EL PASO, WHO IS SIX MONTHS OLD.

AND WE HAD A COURT HEARING THAT EVENING CUZ EL PASO WAS TWO HOURS BEHIND US.

SO I DID PLAN TO ATTEND, BUT THAT IS WHY I DIDN'T ATTEND IS BECAUSE WE WERE IN COURT VIA ZOOM.

SO I KNOW RAY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING AND WHOEVER ELSE JUST, UH, YEAH.

MIKE, QUICK UPDATE.

DO YOU WANNA DESCRIBE IT OR I'LL GO AHEAD.

WELL, THE VOLUNTEER, UH, RECOGNITION, UH, ACTIVITY THE OTHER NIGHT WAS REALLY GREAT.

UH, THEY HAD A WELL SET UP.

THEY HAD A WONDERFUL CATERING.

UM, THE, UH, CEREMONY WENT JUST ABOUT PERFECTLY.

UH, ALL, EVERYBODY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE ALL GOT A BAG AND A CERTIFICATE LIKE THAT AND WE GOT THE SIT IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL KINDS OF OTHER VOLUNTEERS.

AND, UH, WE WERE THERE AS A, UH, I THINK AS A CADRE OF PEOPLE THAT SUPPORTS THE COMMUNITY BY THEIR VOLUNTEER EFFORTS.

AND IT WAS WELL RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY AND, UH, ALSO BY THE LEADERS OF THE POLICE IN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS A PLEASANT EVENING FOR SURE.

AWESOME.

WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE GR LIKE? WELL, IT WAS TERRIFIC.

WELL, WHAT THEY HAD, CAUSE UH, THEY HAD, UH, IT WAS CATERED BY CHRISTIE CHRISTIE'S.

I WAS ABOUT TO ASK.

OKAY.

AND, UH, YEAH, SO THEY AWESOME.

CAUSE CHRISTIE'S DID IT LAST YEAR.

I WENT TO THE ONE LAST YEAR AND THEY HAD SOME KIND OF CHICKEN WITH CATALINA SAUCE ON IT.

UH, IT WAS, IT WAS AWESOME.

YEAH.

IF YOU GOT KRISTY'S, YOU'RE GONNA GET GOOD FOOD.

YEAH, THAT'S FOR SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

CITIZENS COMMENTS, THEY ALL LEFT , UM, OLD BUSINESS.

MR. MIKE MEMORIAL PAVER UPDATE.

UM, WELL, BASICALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ MY EMAIL TODAY, UM, REGARDING THE, UM, READING THE BANNERS, THE BANNERS KIND OF PROCEDURE FOR THAT.

AND THEN WHAT I HAVE, UM, KIND OF PUT TOGETHER WITH A COUPLE OF COMMISSION MEMBERS HERE, UM, WITH THEIR INPUT AS WELL.

UM, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NO OBJECTIONS TO, UM, ANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THAT DOCUMENT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF POLISH THAT UP A LITTLE BIT AND THEN PUT THAT OUT.

UM, I WILL SAY THIS, UM, I'VE RECENTLY GOT THE FIRST IN INSTALLATION, UM, UH, ESTIMATE QUOTE.

AND, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR INSULATION OF, OF PER BRICK OF HUNDRED DOLLARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, UM, LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, UM, AND FOR ENGRAVING, YOU'RE AT, YOU'RE AT $50.

SO BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR $125 THAT YOU'RE ASKING, WE'RE PAYING $25 TO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, THEY'RE GETTING BANGS FOR THEIR BUCKS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY.

SO JUST FROM A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITY, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

THE CITY IS PAYING $25 PER BRICK ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING PAID.

CORRECT.

IF YOU, IF WE GO WITH ONE, ARE WE GOING WITH 1 25? IF WE STAY WITH 1 25 AND THEN ONCE OUR SUPPLY OF BRICKS IS EXHAUSTED, THEN IT'S 1 25 PLUS THE 25 FROM THE CITY PLUS THE COST OF ANOTHER BRICK.

YEAH.

YOU, I MEAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT, BUT YOU, THE COST OF THE BRICKS, WHICH YOU'RE TAKING OUT AND PUTTING BACK ARE KIND OF, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT TYPES.

SO BEING THAT, UM, AN OVERALL AVERAGE COST, WILL WE TAKE FROM THAT IS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, UM, THE, THE DONATION WOULD BE LOSING WOULD BE

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A DONATION.

IT BE, YOU KNOW, AN EXPENDITURE OF 25 PER BREAK, BASICALLY.

WOULD ANYBODY NOT DO $25 MORE TO GET THE BRICK DONE, YOU THINK? I DON'T, I MEAN, MY QUESTION, MY FINAL QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION WOULD BE THIS, UM, IN COMPARISON TO WHAT, LIKE, I I TRY TO THROW THAT OUT THERE TODAY WITH THE, THE, THE, UH, MILITARY BANNER, YOU KNOW, GUIDELINES IN THOSE ASPECTS.

WE ARE CURRENTLY CHARGING FOR THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, $167, YOU KNOW, TO EXPEND CITY CROSS.

THOSE, THOSE, THOSE COSTS AREN'T QUITE COVERED BY THAT AMOUNT IN MY OPINION BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE ARE INCLUDED WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER ASPECTS.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A TWO, TWO YEAR BANNER PROJECT THAT'S TWO YEARS FOR 167, WHICH YOU'RE HAVING A ACTUAL BRICK THAT COULD LAST 2030.

WHO KNOWS? 10, WE'LL SAY THE MOST 10.

YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST GIVING THOSE COSTS IN ORDER AS FAR AS MAKING IT SENSE WITH WHAT THEY'RE HAVING WITH WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN THERE.

BASICALLY, HIS QUESTION THOUGH WAS DO THEY THINK THEY'D BULK A PAIN 150? I MEAN, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE TO SHORT THE CITY A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT.

BUT JUST PERSONALLY AS, AS MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND RATHER THAN ONES WOULD BE THE ONE 50.

YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL, YOU KNOW, IT WAS MY, WASN'T THE CONSENSUS OF OF THE COMMISSION WHEN WE ORIGINALLY GOT GOT DOWN TO THE ROOTS OF THIS.

NOW, NOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO SOME ROOTS OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST FOR INSTALLATION AND THIS IS HIGH END, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST US THE MOST.

BUT IT'S STILL THAT THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S, I MOVE, I MOVE FORWARD WITH A LOT OF THINGS.

I DO ENGINEERS ESTIMATES.

SO ENGINEERING ESTIMATES IS, IT'S GONNA BE, THE LEAST AMOUNT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS PERFECT.

PER INSTALLATION.

THAT'S TODAY'S QUESTION.

SO JUST AS, AS A CONVERSATIONAL KINDA COMMENT, UM, I WOULD ALMOST RECOMMEND THAT WE GO TO THE ONE 50 KNOWING THAT WE'RE COVERING THE COST OF THE BRICK AND THE INSTALLATION.

AND, AND I'D SAY THAT FOR TWO REASONS.

BECAUSE IF THE CITY HAD TO PUT MONEY IN, MAYBE WE DIDN'T GET A HUNDRED BY THE END OF A YEAR.

SO WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 70 PEOPLE OR 50 PEOPLE WHO HAVE BOUGHT THEIR BRICK IN GOOD FAITH.

WE DON'T WANNA MAKE THEM WAIT YEARS BEFORE THEY'RE INSTALLED.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THE CITY STEP IN AND GO, WE'LL COVER THE COST OF GETTING THESE BRICKS IN CUZ THESE PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT THEM IN GOOD FAITH.

MM-HMM.

AND IT'S NOT RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO PUSH THEM OFF BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HIT OUR MAGIC NUMBER.

YES.

WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WITH THAT WAS, IS TO, TO REITERATE SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK I'M ONE THE SAME PAGE HERE IS IF YOU READ WITHIN THAT STIPULATION OF, UM, THE BANNER PROJECT, IT'S THE, THE FIRST TUESDAY AFTER LABOR DAY TO BE INSTALLED BY SUCH AND SUCH SHAPE FOR VETERAN'S DAY.

AND THEN IT'S THE FIRST, UM, TUESDAY OR MONDAY AFTER I, YOU KNOW, IN MARCH FOR MEMORIAL DAY.

SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS MANY BRICKS.

WE, WE WOULD HOPE WE HAVE A HUNDRED BRICKS EVERY TIME EASILY.

YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HOPE THAT, BUT IF NOT, IF WE HAVE 50, IF WE HAVE 40, WE'VE WILLING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, THEN WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, THESE ARE GONNA BE INSTALLED BY THIS SUCH STATE.

BECAUSE IN THAT CASE, THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON TO GET THIS.

AND THEN, THEN, THEN TOO, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

DO WOULD SAY IN THAT, IN THAT GUIDELINE TOO, IS IF, LET'S SAY THE PROGRAM KIND OF LIKE GOES, WE DON'T WANT IT TO GO SOUTH, WE WANT IT TO IMPROVE, BUT THEN WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT LATER, OKAY, WELL IF IT'S NOT IMPROVING AND OUR INSTALLATION COSTS, LET'S SAY WE'RE SELLING FIVE OR BY SUCH AND SUCH DATE, COST US TO GET FIVE BRICKS FOR A MASON TO COME IN HERE TO, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.

SO THOSE COSTS MAY BE KIND OF INCURRED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

YOU KNOW, I CAN'T, I CAN'T HELP WITH, UM, THE KIND OF LABOR RATES, WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THAT.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, ARE THESE BRI, AT ONE POINT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THESE BRICKS WILL BE REPLACING ANOTHER BRICK.

MM-HMM.

, IS THAT STILL THE PLAN? YES.

SO WE WOULD, WE WON'T RUN OUT OF BRICKS.

YOU COULDN'T.

YOU YOU COULD, YOU COULD.

THERE'S DAMAGE TO A BRICK.

THERE'S, THERE'S, YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.

THERE'S IT'S DAMAGE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S DAMAGED WHEN IT PULLED OUT.

YEAH.

THERE'S, THERE'S DAMAGE VARIABLES THAT THAT, THAT ARE INCLUDED IN JUST THE AVERAGE OF WE'RE TAKING, I'M PUTTING IT BACK AND AGAIN, WE'RE GETTING BACK INTO THE DONUT SHOPPING AND LIKE, WERE THESE NO, I JUST WAS ASKING.

YEAH, I JUST, IT'S JUST YOU HAD BROUGHT IT UP.

YEAH.

THESE ARE JUST THE BASICS OF HERE'S WHAT IT IS.

YEAH.

HERE'S WHAT RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE.

$150.

YES, I AGREE.

I DO NOT THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH.

I MEAN, IT MIGHT SOUND LIKE TOO MUCH TO SOME

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COMMISSION MEMBERS, BUT FOR WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GETTING AND THE, THE BANNER, UH, PROGRAM HAS WENT VERY WELL.

THERE'S, THERE'S BECOME SOMETIMES LIKE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF POLLS TO PUT THE BETTER, ONLY SO MANY OF THEM.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF, SO YOU, YOU GIVE PEOPLE ALTERNATIVES TO THE BRICK SITUATION AS WELL.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

I WOULD RECOMMEND, THIS IS WHY WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO RAISE IT.

UM, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ESTABLISH A COST OF $50 THAT WOULD COVER ENGRAVING PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION.

I SECOND MOTION MOTIONS BEEN PROPERLY.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED HAVE THE SAME.

RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIED.

SO MOVING, MOVING FORWARD, WHAT, WHAT WE'LL DO FROM HERE IS I'LL PUT THIS, YOU KNOW, FINE TUNE WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, UM, GET SOME DAYS, DATES TOGETHER.

WE PUT 'EM OUT IN EMAIL.

SO OUR NEXT MONTH IN OCTOBER, WE, THIS IS WHAT WE, WE WILL BE PRESENTING FOR OUR NEXT EVENT FOR THE MEMORIAL AND START PUTTING IT OUT AT THAT TIME TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE AS A VETERAN'S COMMISSION.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD WITH.

SO EVERYBODY, SO I, UM, IF I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT INDIVIDUALS NOT BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY PURCHASE ON FIXING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WORKING WITH THE FAIRBORN PROJECT AND THAT CREEK PROJECT.

AND ONE OF THE WAYS THEY ADDRESSED IT IS THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FRATERNAL ORGANIZATIONS IN, OR MILITARY ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE SPONSORING THEM ON BEHALF OF THE VET.

SO INSTEAD OF THE VET MAYBE HAVING TO COME FORWARD FOR THE FAMILY, COME FORWARD WITH A FULL AMOUNT, IT'S BEING SUPPLEMENT WITH SOMETHING COMING FROM THE VFW AWARD.

WERE THE AMERICAN NATIONS, LIKE THIS IS ONE OF OUR PEOPLE, THESE ARE OUR FAMILIES.

WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO ONE IN HONOR OF, IN THE NAME OF.

AND SO IT'S A WAY FOR THEM TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ENGAGEMENT AS WELL.

HOW DOES A POTENTIAL RICK BUYER BECOME AWARE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A SPONSOR LIKE THAT, THAT I WAS NOT, WE DIDN'T HAVE, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY, I GUESS BECAUSE THEY HAD PEOPLE FROM THE, THOSE AGENCIES IN THE CONVERSATIONS AND BUILDING THEIR MEMORIAL PARK.

UM, CAUSE THEY'RE GOING ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

I THINK IT WAS JUST A NATURALLY GENERATING CONVERSATION IN THEM AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA PUT IT OUT IN THEIR, THEIR DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

I, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

UM, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS SHARED WITH ME OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONVERSATION.

I KNOW IT HAD AS AN INDIVIDUAL IN, IN THE, UH, DOCUMENT YOU SENT OUT, WAS THERE AN ISSUE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE LOCAL LEGION OR AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE AGREED UPON BY THE COMMISSION? SO MR. ARD BROUGHT UP THE DISSECTION OF AGREEANCE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS, AS A COMMISSION, THIS PERSON OR THIS ORGANIZATION HAS REQUESTED A, IT'S JUST, AND WE, WE WOULD JUST SAY THIS, THIS ORGANIZATION, OKAY, HERE'S THE APPLICATION.

WE AS THE COMMISSION, WE SEND IT OUT.

ARE YOU GONNA BE GREENING POTTER OR NOT? YOU KNOW, THAT GOES BACK TO, AND I THINK THIS TAKES AWAY FROM THE DONUT SHOP ERA THAT WE ORIGINALLY GOT INTO THIS, JEFF, YOU KNOW, IN, IN A SENSE OF JOHNNY'S AUTO SHOP.

WE DON'T WANT JOHNNY'S AUTO SHOP, YOU KNOW, OR, OR YOU KNOW, JODY'S HAIR SALON OR SOMETHING.

WE MIGHT NOT WANT THAT.

MAYBE WE DO AT SOME POINT.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THAT, THAT DECISION WOULD BE MADE BY THE COMMISSION AND THE DECISION OF THE CITY.

AND, AND THIS WOULD BE, YOU WOULDN'T ACTUALLY KNOW THE AMERICAN, LIKE THE AMERICAN REGION'S NOT GONNA BE ON THAT BRIDGE.

RIGHT.

IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

IT'S JUST SOMEBODY PAYING THE BILL FOR THEM.

WELL, I THINK WHAT TOO, TO, TO JUST SOMEWHAT 0.2 IS, IS THE AMERICAN LEGION VFW POSTS 32 83, IF THEY WANTED TO PURCHASE A GRID, WE AS A COMMISSION COULD AGREE UPON THAT.

THAT'S YES, THAT WAS SOME OF MY POINT BEHIND THAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

JUST ONE KIND.

I WOULD THINK THE NON BUREAUCRATIC IN THE SIMPLE WAY WAS JOE BLOW FINDS OUT FROM LEGION X THAT DALE PAY THE MONEY.

SO JOE GO, GETS THE MONEY FROM THEM AND THEN THEY, THEY BUY THE BRICK MIGHT.

SO LEGION X IS NOT EVEN KNOWN TO, IT'S STILL COMING FROM THAT WOULD BE A POINT.

IT'S COMING FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL.

IT'S NOT COMING.

YEAH.

I KNOW WHAT I THINK I'M SAYING THE LEGION OR CLUB, IF THOSE LEGIONS OR ORGANIZATIONS MAKING KNOWN, IF YOU WANNA BUY A BRICK, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE MONEY FOR IT.

THAT'S SOMETHING.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

YES.

I THINK TOO IS THE SAME THING TOO.

SOME WE'RE DISCUSSING YOUNG MARINES THEY MAY WANT AS AN ORGANIZATION.

I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF US DECIDING.

YOUNG MARINES HAS A BRICK.

RIGHT.

REAL BRICK MILITARY.

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THEY'RE A MILITARY ORGANIZATION.

YOU, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK THAT THAT, THAT FALLS BACK TO WE, THE CITY AND THE COMMISSION BEING THE CITY AS WELL, HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, DISSECTION OF DECIDING THOSE THINGS.

I THINK THAT, UH, ANY NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT'S TIED TO THE MILITARY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT A BRICK IN THERE.

AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE INCLUSION.

AND THOSE, THOSE, AGAIN, THOSE COULD BE DECIDED BY PERMISSION LATER.

I, I THINK INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM TO HAVE TO COME TO THE COMMISSION ONE AND AFTER THE OTHER AND ASK FOR PERMISSION, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GIVE A BLANKET FOR NONPROFIT MILITARY ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BE, TO BE ABLE TO BUY A BRICK.

YEAH.

WELL THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, UH, IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT, THE, UH, THEN WE BACK INTO THE CONUNDRUM OF, IS THE, THE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION, JOE'S IITA JOE'S, YOU KNOW, NO, NO, NO.

I I I WOULD JUST SAY THIS, IT SHOULD BE JUST HOW I HATE TO KEEP, WE COULD NAME EVERY, YOU KNOW, VFW, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS.

OKAY.

AND THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW OUT THERE THAT'S A 5 0 1 ORGANIZATION THAT MIGHT, WE NOT, MIGHT WANT TO BE POLITICALLY FALSE.

.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AS IT'S WRITTEN IS OPEN TO THE DISSECTION, WHICH IS THE WORD.

GET THE WORD NOW, THE DISSECTION OF WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD DECIDE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

THAT'S, THAT'S, I'M JUST GONNA LOOK, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE, YEAH.

I, I JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR SCALPEL TO SEE WHERE, HOW DISSECT, ALL RIGHT.

SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT IS BEING PURCHASED BY NAME FOR A INDIVIDUAL WITH A SERVICE HISTORY THAT NEEDS THESE REQUIREMENTS.

IT'S A NO BRAINER.

WE GO, YOU GOT IT.

IF IT IS AN ORGANIZATION THEY SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR AND WE JUST DO A QUICK APPROVAL AT A MONTHLY MEETING MM-HMM.

REACH BACK TO THEM, SAY YOU'RE GOOD TO GO REACH BACK TO THEM, SAY LETTER KEEP CONTROL HERE.

YEAH.

AND THEN IS, IS THAT ONE EXACT YOU JUST SAID IT SEEMED LIKE WHEN I FIRST THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THAT WOULD BE IF WE COULD JUST DO A PLANT, A BLANKET THING THAT YOU KNOW, BUT THAT COULD GET AWAY.

SO I WITHDRAW MY SUGGESTION.

OH, THAT'S OKAY.

SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S INCLUDED IN HERE SOMEWHERE THAT IT SAYS IN GROUPS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT.

EXACTLY.

SHE GOT IT.

SHE GOT IT.

JUST TELL HER TO SEND IT TO YOU .

RIGHT.

IT'S KIND OF THERE, BUT IT IS WHERE IF I WAS, IF I WAS PROPRIETOR EMPORIUM, WHAT I WOULD WANT IS A CERTIFICATE THAT SAID RAY GERARD EMPORIUM SPONSORED A BRICK FOR THE HUBER HIGH SCHOOL MEMORIAL FOR PRIVATE JOHN JONES US ARMY.

THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE ON MY WALL.

AND I LET THE BRICK SAY PRIVATE JONES US ARMY.

SO THAT I THINK IS A DOABLE THING.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS SOMETHING THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THE WE COULD ORGANIZATION, BUT IT'S NOT IN OUR PART.

ALL, IT'S JUST THANK YOU ACTUALLY COULD BE THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, BECAUSE I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY WALKS IN AND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE IMAGE BEING PRO-MILITARY, THEN THAT WOULD BE A NICE THING TO HAVE ON WALL.

THANK YOU.

A SMALL, YEAH, A SMALL LITTLE THING.

NOT A BIG SPONSORING THE BRICK OF, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE FIRST CLASS.

I DUNNO, I'M NOT COMING UP WITH ANY NAMES.

YEAH.

SMITH.

SO WE, SO OUR HOMEWORK IS YOU'RE GONNA, FOR OCTOBER'S MEETING, WHAT DID YOU SAY YOU WERE GONNA DO? POLISH THE CURRENT GUIDELINES UP, RIGHT? WHICH IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT EMAIL, YOU EMAIL ME OUT THEM AND THEN BY THE TIME THE OCTOBER MEETING COMES, WE'LL HAVE A FINAL DRAFT THAT WE'RE GOING TO AGREE UPON AND THEY'LL BE, IT SHOULD BE AGREED UPON.

CAUSE THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION BY THAT TIME.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WE'VE PICKED IT APART ENOUGH.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO THEN WE'RE MOVING ON THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DECIDE.

AND SO, AND WE COME TO OUR, OUR THE MEMORIAL, WHICH WILL BE IN TWO WEEKS FROM THERE.

SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A REALLY TIGHT TIMEFRAME HERE, IS WE SHOULD HAVE THIS BE ABLE TO BE PUT OUT WHILE WE'RE DOING THE BEDROOMS DAY.

WE SHOULD BE, BE ABLE TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO OUR AND THE COMMUNITIES SHOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF FORMS AVAILABLE AT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT, THE MC COULD TALK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COME UP WITH THE PROGRAM OR YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT'S THE VERBIAGE

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OF TO BE DISCUSSED AT, AT, AT THE PROGRAM.

THAT PROGRAM WILL BE MENTIONED, HOW TO FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE SOME FORMS, APPLICATIONS AVAILABLE THERE, THAT KIND OF THING.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY SOUNDS LIKE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO NEXT, UH, THE VETERAN'S DAY PLANNING.

SO WE ALL VOTED TO MAKE IT 1100, WHICH I DID NOT AGREE WITH.

THEN WE VOTED TO CHANGE IT TO WHAT I DID AGREE WITH.

I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE.

MY BUDDY TOM, MY BUDDY TOM HAD MY BACK, BUT IT'S ALL GOOD.

IT'S ALL GOOD.

UPDATE ON THE REQUEST FOR SPEAKER TER GENERAL.

ANDREW, YOU WANT TO GIVE US ANY LITTLE TIBI? JEFF? SO I SPOKE WITH HIS PA EXEC PEOPLE.

HE'S CONFIRMED THAT HE'S IN TOWN AND ON SCHEDULE TO BE THERE AT 1600 ON THE 11TH.

UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE STANDARD INFORMATION, GIVE THEM PROTOCOL.

OKAY, I GOT IT.

AWESOME.

AND THEN, UH, PARKING, THAT KIND OF THING FOR HIM AND WHATEVER HIS FOLLOW ON PEOPLE ARE, IF HE NEEDS ANY, ANY SIDE PEOPLE THERE.

UM, YOU GOT ALL THAT DONE.

PERFECT.

UM, YEAH, I JUST GOTTA COMMUNICATE THAT BACK WITH HIM.

THEY'VE BEEN REALLY OPEN AND RECEPTIVE.

THEY SAID HE'S EXCITED TO DO IT, SO.

OKAY.

ALWAYS GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ARE YOU PROVIDING THE STANDARD INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST REFERRED TO? DANA IS, I GOT IT.

OH, DANA IS? YEP.

OH, I HAVE PROTOCOL PACK.

I WAS WORKING ON HIM LAST WEEK.

OH.

AND TELLING HIM TO BRING HIS TRENCH CODE.

PROBABLY, YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAVE HIS BIO.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO EMAIL IT OUT, BUT I GOT SIDETRACKED BY WORK STUFF, SO IT'S ALRIGHT.

I'LL GET YOU HIS BIO.

SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO HE IS.

HE'S A MEDICAL DOCTOR AND A GENERAL, SO I'M SURE IS PARENTS ARE PROUD.

YEAH.

HOW YOU PULL THAT OFF.

UM, QUICK QUESTION.

HAVE WE INVITED ANY CITY LEADERS ASIDE FROM OUR LOCAL CITY LEADERS? UM, IS THERE ANYBODY COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY? ANY COMMISSIONERS, ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S GOING? CUZ THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE, WHEN YOU WALK IN, I DON'T KNOW.

AS WE GET CLOSER, IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT RSVPS IS FINE.

I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL ON TOP OF THAT.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSION TO ASK AND MAYBE, UM, ALSO, UM, I MEAN WE ALL HAVE LOTS OF, UM, CONTACTS IN AND I, I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET MORE INVOLVED WITH SOME OF OUR MILITARY BACK THE CONVERSATION.

SOME OF OUR MILITARY POSTS AND ORGANIZATIONS HERE AROUND THE COMMUNITY HERE, GWS, UM, REACH OUT TO THEM TO MAYBE GET SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE INVOLVED AS WELL HERE WITH US IN THE COMMISSION AND HAVE THEM COME TO THE MEETINGS AS WELL.

SOMETIMES, AS YOU KNOW, WE WISH OUT TO INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO THEM, MAYBE GET THEM GOING WITH LOU.

AND ONCE LOU MOVED ON, THAT KIND OF DRIFTED AWAY.

BUT WE HAD A GOOD ORGANIZATION, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS, AMERICAN LEGION ON THE FW, ALL THAT.

LOU WAS A MEMBER OF EVERYTHING.

AND UH, SO WE NEED ANOTHER LOU.

BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DEPUTY NEED TO DO THAT.

WELL, BUT WHO WOULD BE THAT HOPEFUL? AND WE ALSO HAVE A LINKAGE WOULD, UH, BE VIETNAM VETERANS AMERICA 97 BECAUSE YOU GOT THREE MEMBERS SITTING HERE AT THE TABLE AND STEVE RATCLIFF GETS IT, IT ALL.

SO JUST FOR LIKE HEAD COUNTING, WHO WORKS WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION? KAREN HEIGHTS.

OKAY.

WITH THE VFW.

AND THEN YOU HAVE VVA, AMEX, WHAT OTHER AM VETS? AM VETS IT.

I EMAILED ALL THREE OF THOSE EXCEPT FOR AMERICAN LEGION.

CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A EMAIL ADDRESS.

NO NEED TO LIKE GO SOCIALIZING ONE.

UH, I GOT A GRANDSON NOW, SO MY SIX MONTHS, MONDAY'S OVER.

WE ENGAGE WITH THE THOUGH GOES OVER, I JUST EMAILED HIM SAYING I'M CHAIR HEIGHTS MILITARY VETERAN COMMISSION.

WE LOVE TO HAVE Y'ALL PARTICIPATE IN OUR NOVEMBER 11TH CEREMONY.

SO I'M NOT A MEMBER OF AMEX ONLY AMERICAN LEGION.

SO WHAT ABOUT BASE ORGANIZATION'S? CHIEFS GROUP TOP THREE RISING FORWARD FIVE SIX CLUB.

YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THE CONNECTIONS TO THOSE, BUT YEAH, IF THEY WANT TO, THEY GOT PARTIAL CONNECTIONS TO THE CHIEF GROUP.

YOU WANT ME TO CHECK WITH THEM? ABSOLUTELY, YEAH.

YEAH, DANA DOES.

OH, JOHNSON, COLONEL JOHNSON.

YEAH.

SO THOSE CONTACTS YOU LOST IN LOST FIRST SERGEANTS GROUP

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SHIRTS.

I GOT THE SHIRTS.

SO OUR MILITARY ORGANIZATIONS TOP THREE AND FEWER HEIGHTS THAT ON BASE RIGHT THERE.

AIR FORCE BASE.

JOHN, I NEED A NAME WHO'S DOING, UH, MILITARY ORGANIZATIONS.

JEFF NEED A NAME.

HE'S GOT THE CHIEFS AND THEN ON BASE YOU'RE DOING ON BASE.

DOING ON BASE.

OKAY.

AND THEN HE'S GOING ON.

ALRIGHT, GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT WE WILL HAVE RAY UPDATE US ON FATHER NIPPLE.

FATHER NIPPLE DECLINED AND IN HIS PLACE WHO, UH, HAS AGREED HIS FATHER ROBERT HA OF ST.

PETERS.

AND HE WILL, HE WILL DO IT A L H A L E.

THE HELL YOU SAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO CAN I OFFER JUST ONE OBSERVATION FROM LAST YEAR? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK COLONEL MILLER DID THAT WAS REALLY WELL RECEIVED WATCHING THE AUDIENCE WAS HIS INCLUSION OF FAMILY IN HIS COMMENTS.

UM, HE MADE SEVERAL REFERENCES TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, ESPECIALLY AS OLD AS IT WAS.

UM, THE LAST COUPLE, I KNOW WE TEND TO STAY VERY FOCUSED ON THE VETERANS AND FOR, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE NICE TIMES TOO.

IF, IF WE COULD JUST SHARE TO, TO THE CHAPLAINS.

WAS IT CHAPLAIN OR FATHER? OBVIOUSLY FATHER.

UM, UH, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IN.

I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD IDEA IN CONTEXT, BUT FRANKLY I DON'T EXPECT, UH, BECAUSE HE'S DOING THE INVOCATION IN BEN ADDICTION, I EXPECT HIM TO JUST GIVE A RELIGIOUS PREMISE AND THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, YOU KNOW, HE'S ADDRESSING THE FATHER ON OUR BEHALF, GUY UPSTAIRS, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE BLESSINGS ON THE, ON THE EVENT.

BUT HE'S NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE CUZ FRANKLY, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

I MEAN, HE KNOW WE COULD HAVE THE, WE COULD REACH OUT TO THE BRIGA OR GENERAL AND ASK HIM TO, THAT'S THAT.

WELL, I WAS TAUGHT THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE GOING WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT BOTH.

THEN WE CAN, WHEN WE, UM, CIRCLE UP WITH HIS PA JUST MAKE THE, THE BE FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE.

AND, UH, NO, NOT A PROBLEM.

ALL RIGHT.

MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG MARINE'S INVOLVEMENT.

JUST A QUICK UPDATE, RAY.

WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMBINATION OF FOUR N FIVE TOGETHER, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT US DOWN FOR OUR COLOR GUARD.

AND THEN ON THE NUMBER FIVE, YOU'VE GOT ROTC, HONOR GUARD DETAIL PRESENTING IN THE COLORS.

THAT'S A COLOR GUARD.

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA.

I DON'T HAVE YOU, I SENT YOU THE MEMO, SIR.

SO WHAT MEMO? THE MEMO REQUESTING MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG MARINES INVOLVE ME.

WELL, I KNOW IT, I KNOW YOU.

SO THE COLOR GUARD.

I'M JUST SAYING ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH, ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK THAT IF YOU GOT, WE CAN GET RID OF THE, OF, WE CAN GET RID OF MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG MARINES BEING THE COLOR GUARD AND WAYNE GERALD TC WOULD HANDLE THAT.

NOW WE CAN STILL LAY THE WREATH AND DO TAXE.

YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, THAT, THAT WAS MY POINT.

YEAH.

NO REASON FOR, TO GET ALL THIS GOODBYE.

NO, WAYNE, WE, WE, HEY WAYNE, GERALD TC.

THEY FEEL LIKE, UM, THEY AIN'T GETTING THE LOVE LIKE THEY SHOULD.

YOU KNOW, MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG MARINES SHOW UP STRONG, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING.

SO COLONEL RED WOULD AGREE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD DO.

THESE ARE HIS WORDS.

THEY WOULD PROVIDE A 46.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

WE WON'T HAVE PROBLEM DETAIL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OUR LARGEST, LARGEST PROBLEM.

WE COMBATING THE WIND AND THE COLD IN THE RAIN, RIGHT? YEAH.

OVERCOME.

RIGHT.

HELL OVERCOME.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE COMING.

SURVIVE.

WE, WE COMING AROUND THE, UH, PIKE.

SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA, NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE JEFF, WHO'S GOING TO UPDATE US ON IT.

A GREAT IDEA HE HAS FOR MEMORIAL DAY R FOR VETERANS SUICIDE.

9 88.

TAKE IT AWAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO I'M ACTIVE DUTY.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT.

UM, THE UNITS I WORKED WITH WERE ALL COMBAT OPS RELATED FOR THE FIRST 12 YEARS OF MY CAREER.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS YES, SIR.

IS YOU MICHAEL THOUGHT SO.

IS THAT IT? OH, THERE IT IS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE FIRST 12 YEARS OF MY CAREER WAS ALL COMBAT OPERATIONS, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, ALL OTHER SORTS OF PLACES.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COMING UP NOW THAT WE'RE TRANSITIONING AWAY FROM COMBAT OPS, THE WAY WE USED TO BE DOING THEM

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IS WE'RE HAVING A HUGE RASH OF SUICIDES IN THE MILITARY BETWEEN PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN DOING THE JOB IN OVERSEAS AND ONCE THEY'RE HOME AND HAVE TRANSITIONED, BEEN CONTRACTORS, BEEN CIVIL SERVANTS, THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, IT'S BECOMING A HUGE PROBLEM.

I'M HEARD, I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL HEARD THE 22 A DAY.

THOSE ARE GETTING TO BE OLD NUMBERS.

UM, FROM THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, UH, THIS TIME LAST MONTH TO TODAY, THREE PEOPLE I KNEW AND WORKED WITH ON A DAILY BASIS COMMITTED SUICIDE IN THAT TIME.

AND THAT BROUGHT ME TO 17 PEOPLE I'VE KNOWN IN MY CAREER THAT HAVE COMMITTED SUICIDE.

AND THESE ARE ALL LIKE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES, KIDS.

AND IT'S, IT'S JUST GETTING TO ME.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT OF DOING WAS, ASIDE FROM RAISING AWARENESS THAT THIS IS A, A GIANT PROBLEM, IS PUTTING TOGETHER A, A, A FUNCTION THAT RAISES FUNDS FOR SOMETHING LOCAL THAT SUPPORTS VETERANS IN CRISIS.

SO THE IDEA IS BASICALLY TO DO A, NOT A LONG, BUT LIKE MY THOUGHT WAS AROUND SEVEN MILES.

SO TAKE IT FROM THE VETERANS MEMORIAL UP TO CHAMBERSBURG FROM 2 0 1 TO 2 0 2.

COME BACK ON FISHBURG AND COME RIGHT BACK TO THE MEMORIAL.

UM, THAT'S AROUND SEVEN MILES.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACT.

IT'S NOT A RACE.

IT'S MORE OF JUST A CARRY BANNERS, CARRY FLAGS, GET EVERYBODY OUT THERE AND, AND SEEING THAT, UM, WE'RE SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THE SUPPORT AND TRY TO RAISE AS MUCH FUNDS AS POSSIBLE AND FIND A GOOD NONPROFIT OR ORGANIZATION THAT GOES ABOUT SUPPORTING THESE GUYS AND SUPPLY THEM WITH FUNDING TO, TO INCREASE RESOURCES THAT THEY'RE BEING MAKE THAT THEY CAN MAKE AVAILABLE.

HOW THAT IS DONE, I DON'T KNOW CUZ I'M ALL NEW TO THIS, BUT, UM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, UM, THAT DO A LOT OF WORK WITH NONPROFITS IN THE AREA SUGGESTED PARTNERING WITH THE NONPROFIT AND HAVING THEM BE KIND OF A PASS THROUGH FOR FUNDING SO THEY CAN, ANY SUPPORT WE GET FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THAT KIND OF THING CAN ALL BE PUT INTO A FUND.

AND THAT FUND WE CAN THEN PRESENT TO WHATEVER ORGANIZATION THROUGH THE NONPROFIT.

THAT WAY THE CITY ISN'T HAVING TO MANAGE, YOU KNOW, ENROLLMENT INTO THE WHOLE THING OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THE LEGALITIES OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW AND HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO EXPLORE JUST YET.

BUT I THINK MEMORIAL DAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S SEVERAL MONTHS OFF.

WE'D HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO PLAN.

WE CAN MAKE IT A REALLY, A REALLY GOOD EVENT THAT RAISES AWARENESS AND HOPEFULLY A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

WE CAN BRING THINGS IN LIKE FOOD TRUCKS INTO THOMAS CLOUD AND MAKE IT KIND OF A, A MORE, A MORE FUN EVENT THAT CAN BE ATTENDED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THE WEATHER'S USUALLY NICE.

UM, BANNERS FOR GROUPS WALKING IN TEAMS, HAVE SOME OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES SPONSOR TEAMS OR PUT BANNERS OUT TO BE CARRIED.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE EXACTLY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S FLOATING AROUND IN MY HEAD.

SO IF WE COULD APPROVE THE IDEA AND THEN WORK OUT THE DETAILS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO.

ANYBODY GOT QUESTIONS OR YOU JUST WANNA MAKE A MOTION? THEN WE CAN HAVE QUESTIONS? NO MOTION JUST YET.

A COUPLE OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

SAY QUESTIONS FIRST.

THE YOUNG MARINES HAVE PLENTY OF MARCHES AND ROUTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND YOU HAVE, UH, I'M GOING BACK TO WHAT MIKE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AS THE SAFETY DIRECTOR.

IF YOU HAVE A ROUTE LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU GOT PEDESTRIANS CROSSING STREETS AND YOU GOT THE SAFETY OF THAT KIND OF THING.

SAFEST WAY TO PLAN A ROUTE IS TO GET A LARGE FEEL WITH A ONE MILE ROUTE AND LET 'EM RUN AROUND, GO AROUND IT SEVEN TIMES AND HAND 'EM A, A TAG EVERY, EVERY MILE THEY GO.

MY MY MY IDEA IS TO MAKE IT A LOT MORE BROADLY IMPACTING THAT I WANT THE STREETS TO CLOSE.

I WANT PEOPLE TO STOP AND STREETS TO CLOSE.

IF, IF WE HAVE, I MEAN WE'VE DONE HALF MARATHONS AROUND THE CITY.

WE'VE DONE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT, WE'VE CLOSED IT FOR THE MARTIN LUTHER KING WALK.

WE, I MEAN WE 4TH OF JULY PARADE, WE DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

A RUCK OF SEVEN MILES ISN'T GONNA INCONVENIENCE ANYBODY FOR TOO LONG.

OKAY.

THE NEXT QUESTION, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE JOKING OR NOT, BUT 40 POUNDS IN THE R WERE YOU I I NO.

WERE YOU CONS? WERE YOU CONSIDERING SPECIFICATION OF A LOADED R NOPE.

WHENEVER PEOPLE WANT TO DO, THEY WANT R IT WITH 40 POUNDS, 80 POUNDS, 120 POUNDS BE ON THEIR BACK OR YOU KNOW, USING THE SEGUE, I DON'T CARE.

BUT YOUR EXPECTATION IS THE R WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE PERSON PARTICIPATING.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND I WILL TELL YOU THE OHIO ROAD RUNNERS, UM, R WB ALL, THERE'S DIFFERENT RUNNING GROUPS

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IN THE STATE OF OHIO THAT HOSTS RS AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR.

A LOT OF 'EM ARE IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE IT'S SUICIDE AWARENESS MONTH.

UM, THEY, THEY WOULD WELCOME AN ADDITIONAL RUG.

UM, LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO AND THEY BRING THEIR OWN.

A LOT OF 'EM ARE FORMER VETS.

THEY JUST BRING THEIR OLD BACKPACKS OR WHATEVER THAT THAT THING IS CALLED THAT THEY THE RUG SACK AND THEY'LL LOAD IT DOWN.

SOMETIMES IT'S LOADED WITH 40 POUNDS, SOMETIMES IT'S PROBABLY THEIR LAUNDRY.

UM, PAYLOADS.

BUT, BUT WHATEVER WORKS LOOKS GOOD.

IT'S, IT'S, UM, SO THERE'S THAT.

DOES IT HAVE TO BE DIRTY? UM, AND AND I I DANA'S THOUGHT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW CAUSE I DO THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION THAT MIKE WOULD HAVE TO GET FROM THE CITY IN TERMS OF WHETHER WE CAN PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.

UM, WHETHER WE CAN SUPPORT THE EVENT THAT'S HOSTED BY THE CITY AND NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, WITH US TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF WORKING WITH A NONPROFIT CUZ THERE'S SPONSORSHIP AND, AND THEIR SPONSORSHIP POLICIES OR PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IF WE ARE ACTING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WORKING WITH ANOTHER AGENCY.

CORRECT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THE NONPROFIT FITS IN JUST YET.

I THINK WE GOT A ONE IN, IN SIMILAR, SIMILAR EVENTS THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF, UM, ONE C AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THAT OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE IN THE PAST.

UM, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE THING IS THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED AS FAR AS WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED, HOW LONG IS THE ROUTE, WHAT'S THE ROUTE, YOU KNOW, LOGISTICAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW.

ALL THOSE THINGS FIRST, YOU KNOW, AND HOW MUCH PLANNING WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK AND LOGISTICAL SUPPORT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE YOUR PRIVATE BY, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE, FIRE AND MYSELF, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WOULD CHANGE LIKE FOR THE HALF MARATHON HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 3000 PARTICIPANTS THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT BEAST, RIGHT? SURE.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABLE SUPPORT FOR THE CITY WILL, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A WORKER OR HAVE TO ASK FOR ACCOMMODATION FROM A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION.

THAT SENSE.

MM-HMM.

WALKING AROUND IN MY HEAD.

WELL, JEFF, YOU HAD A, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF IDEAS ABOUT THE ROUTE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

CAN YOU WORK UP A TENTATIVE OP PLAN AND THROW IN THE, SOME LOGISTICS LIKE THE WATER AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT? WELL, FROM LOOKING AROUND ON THE INTERNET, SEEING WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES DO FOR SIMILAR KIND OF EVENTS, THEY, THEY BASICALLY HAVE THE STARTING POINT ESTABLISHED AND A FEW FEW RESOURCES, BATHROOMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AT THE STARTING POINT, WHICH ALREADY EXIST AT THOMAS CLOUD AND EVERYBODY ELSE, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE R BRING BRING WATER WITH THEM.

YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING.

BUT YOU KNOW, MIKE'S GONNA BRING THIS OUT SO IT'S BETTER THAT HE, HE HAS A LITTLE MORE THAN WORDS IF HE HAD SOMETHING OUT THERE.

YEAH, I CAN, I'LL, I'LL WORK IT, I'LL WORK IT OUT.

I CAN DO A MAP EASY ENOUGH.

JUST WHAT'S GOING TO MATTER WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

LIKE WE DID A SIMILAR TO, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE AN AFTER MEETING DISCUSSION OF IT, BUT THERE WAS ONE EVENT PARTICULAR, IT WAS FOR A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION.

IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH SCHOOLS THAT KIND OF STAYED OFF THE BEATEN PATH BUT WAS ON THE BEATEN PATH IN THE ROADWAY AND THAT WAS ALLOWED OKAY.

WITH A TYPE OF ESCORT MIGHT BE SOME THINGS.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT IS SOME, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.

WHEN YOU GET INTO, UM, LOGISTICS OF LIKE HALF MARATHON WHERE YOU WERE TAKING OUT PARTIAL LANES OF ROADWAYS, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING INTO COSTS OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE HERE TO, TO SPONSOR THIS AND PROVIDE A LOGISTICS.

I GOTCHA.

AND I, I CAN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF NUMBERS ON WHO I THINK WOULD SHOW UP, BUT I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME WE DO IT.

SURE.

I'D LOVE FOR THIS TO BECOME AN ANNUAL THING ON MEMORIAL DAY.

SO I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY MAKING IT LIKE SPARSE TO START WITH AND SEE WHAT THE RESPONSE IS.

MIND, BECAUSE AT LEAST YOU GOT THE UH, POSSIBILITY OF FAVORABLE WEATHER TOO.

THAT'S A BIG THING.

AND IF YOU STARTED IT AT THE RIGHT TIME, IT COULD ACTUALLY KICK OFF SOME SORT OF SUNRISE OBSERVANCE AT THE MEMORIAL PARK.

THAT'D BE PRETTY.

SO YOU HAVE A GREAT CROWD TO TURN OUT TO KICK OFF THAT DAY.

UM, MIKE, CAN YOU, SO WE'VE GOT SOME LEISURE TIME FOR THIS THEN, RIGHT? I'M SORRY.

WE HAVE SOME LEISURE TIME TO PLAN THIS OUT.

OH, I, YEAH, THAT'S THINKING IF YOU'RE TALKING MEMORIAL DAY, BUT MY QUESTION IS WHY MEMORIAL DAY WHEN WE HONORED DEAD AND WE WANT SOMETHING THAT TO PREVENT SOME GUY'S DEAD DEATH

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AND COULD IT BE ANOTHER DAY? IT IT COULD BE ANY DAY.

HONESTLY, I WAS THINKING MEMORIAL DAY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S TRYING TO KIND OF BURN IN YOUR MIND.

THE FACT THAT THESE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT SERVED OUR CASUALTIES FOR THE LAST WARS WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING AREN'T COMING FROM OVERSEAS BY AND LARGE, FAR FAR, FAR MORE ARE COMING WHILE THEY'RE AT HOME, YOU KNOW, GOING ABOUT THEIR DAILY, DAILY LIFE AND THEN THEY JUST CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.

SO WE'RE KIND OF HONORING THEIR SACRIFICE ON MEMORIAL DAY BECAUSE THEY, THEY ARE THE CASUALTIES OF WAR.

THEY JUST DIDN'T DIE OVERSEAS.

UH, IF WE CAN THROW OUT ONE SIDE COMMENT AS THE YOUNG MARINES, IT, OUR PRIMARY MISSION IS DRUG DEMAND RESISTANCE AND REDUCTION.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADDICTION RESEARCH, WHICH IS THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY DRUG COALITION.

WELL, WHAT'S COMING DOWN FROM THE COUNTY AND FROM THE DEA ACTUALLY THEY, THEY USED TO SAY WE GOTTA CON WE GOTTA GET COMBAT DRUGS, WE GOTTA COMBAT ALCOHOL, COMBAT DRUGS, COMBAT ALCOHOL.

BUT THE OBVIOUS THING POPPED UP AND SAYS, HEY, A PARTNER TO THIS IS MENTAL HEALTH.

AND IN THE ARENA OF NOT NECESSARILY VETERANS, THERE ARE A LOT OF SUICIDES TAKING PLACE BECAUSE THOSE THREE FACTORS ARE INTERACTING TO SET UP AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE A SUICIDE IS THE ANTICIPATED OUTCOME.

OUTCOME.

AND UH, ALL I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT NOBODY CAN ARGUE WITH THE FACT THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN SUICIDE BECOMES A NATIONAL ILLNESS, SO TO SPEAK.

AND THAT THERE ARE ARE PLENTY OF AGENCIES THAT ARE COMBATING IN IN OTHER ARENAS.

SO I, I WOULD SAY THAT THE IDEA THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, DID YOU KNOW VETERANS ARE ARE SUBJECT TO SUICIDE THREATS, WOULD NOT BE SHOCKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THEY WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS, AS KNOWING THAT IS IT IS NOW PREVALENT IN OUR SOCIETY.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAID.

I THINK THE POINT BEHIND THE IDEA OF THIS IS MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE AND USE THAT AWARENESS TO RAISE MONEY FOR RESOURCES.

CUZ ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH WHY PEOPLE ARE GETTING ADDICTED IN COMMITTING SUICIDE IS THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH ACCESS TO CARE FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

EVEN ON THE BASE.

PEOPLE ARE WAITING WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS TO GET ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTHCARE AND THESE ARE ACTIVE DUTY MEMBERS.

IT'S JUST THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SERVICE THE AMOUNT OF, TO SERVICE THE NEED.

SO KIND OF TWOFOLD GOALS BEHIND DOING THIS, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE AND TO HELP PROVIDE FUNDS FOR THOSE THAT ARE DOING THAT WORK.

BUT, BUT THE ONLY, I DON'T KNOW, I'M ONLY SPEAKING BECAUSE I UNFORTUNATELY LANE BEFORE I KNEW THIS COMMITTEE EXISTED, I'M REPLACING A MAN WHO WAS ON THIS COMMITTEE AND, UH, WHO FROM ME TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE, THIS MAN WAS A GREAT MAN.

HE WAS INVOLVED IN NUMEROUS ITEMS IN THE THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY AND UH, HE, I WAS ALSO BEING ON VET AND HE CAME, EXCUSE ME, HE WAS A MEMBER OF OUR CHAPTER AND HE DID COME TO A FEW MEETINGS AND THAT'S HOW I MET THE MAN AND JUST, AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE THAT I WAS SHOCKED THAT THE GUY COMMITTED SUICIDE.

CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS HE WAS VERY OUTGOING.

HE WAS WELL LOVED BY OTHER PEOPLE.

HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEN JUST, IT JUST, I KNOW SUICIDE'S KIND OF HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND I'M NOT THAT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND IT.

YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M A CLOCK A COWARD REALLY.

IF I WASN'T TO COMMIT SUICIDE, I COULDN'T DO IT.

YOU HAVE TO BE SOME, I, YOU KNOW, I I I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS I HAVE A HARD TIME IF WE'RE GONNA RAISE FUNDS FOR SOME ORGANIZATION, HOW IS THAT ORGANIZATION GONNA PREVENT SUICIDE? THAT WAS, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M MOST CONCERNED OF.

THE RAISING AWARENESS CAN BE DONE.

RAISING AWARENESS IS NOT A SOLUTION.

I WOULD, IF WE'RE GOING TO FIND AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S GONNA UTILIZE THE

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FUNDS WE RAISE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEIR METRICS ARE ON HOW THEY'RE DOING IT.

YOU, YOU CAN'T MEASURE THOSE HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE.

I DON'T MEAN THAT TO BE SO THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR THE JOB.

MY JOB, YOU CAN'T REALLY MEASURE WHETHER A PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL IN, IN COMBATING SUICIDE CUZ YOU DON'T KNOW.

PEOPLE DON'T COME FORWARD AND GO, I WAS GOING TO DO THIS AND NOW I DIDN'T BECAUSE OF THIS.

IT, THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE.

UNFORTUNATELY.

IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WITHIN THE D O D IS WE HAVE ALL OF THESE RESOURCES.

WE KNOW THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

WE KNOW SOME PEOPLE USE THEM, WE KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T.

WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DON'T.

WITH, WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS WE KNOW THERE'S STILL A STIGMA AND BARRIER TO MENTAL HEALTH.

UM, THINGS THOUGH.

AND HERE'S WHERE I WAS THINKING, UM, SERVICE DOGS.

THERE ARE GREAT PROGRAMS FOR SERVICE DOGS.

WE KNOW SERVICE DOGS DO KEEP SOME OF OUR VETERANS FROM, FROM SPIRALING DOWNWARD.

THAT'S THEIR WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO HELP MITIGATE THOSE FEELINGS AT TIMES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND.

UM, THERE ARE SOME GREAT COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDING FOR, FOR SUICIDE AWARENESS, SUICIDE, MENTAL HEALTH.

WHAT JEFF'S TALKING ABOUT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN IMPACT IN TERMS OF HAVING PEOPLE AVAILABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CLINICIANS THAT IS A NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE, UM, FOR, FOR SO MANY REASONS.

UM, THAT SAID, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS CREATING A MORE POSITIVE AWARENESS OF THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE SO THAT PERSON WHO'S SITTING THERE AT MIDNIGHT KNOWS THAT THESE ARE THE NUMBERS I CAN CALL, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE I CAN CALL AND IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO CALL.

UM, THAT, THAT TO ME AND, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF THAT'S NOT KIND OF WHAT YOUR ANGLE IS, IS THAT GUY THAT'S SITTING THERE WHEN THERE'S NOBODY ELSE AROUND KNOWS THAT HE HAS RESOURCES, KNOWS THAT HE HAS SOMEBODY TO CALL.

UM, AND DOES IT NOT JUST THAT HE KNOWS, BUT HE DOES IT BECAUSE WE'VE MADE THIS COMMUNITY ONE THAT SAYS, IF YOU NEED HELP, CALL ME.

UM, SO THAT SAID, I I THINK, UM, PROBABLY GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE WEEDS THAN WE NEED TO BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN EVEN DO THIS.

IF, IF I'M, IF I CAN SAY THAT, UM, WE CAN POTENTIALLY HOST A RACE, BUT CAN WE HOST A RACE THAT THEN FUNDS A NONPROFIT OR IS THIS CITY ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING THAT RAISES MONEY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE? THAT'S ONE QUESTION.

UM, CAN WE PARTNER WITH A NONPROFIT THAT TAKES FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY FUNDS THAT COME IN ASIDE FROM WHATEVER COSTS THAT WE NEED TO GIVE TO THE CITY? AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY MONEY COMING IN OR THE CITY GIVING ANY MONEY AWAY.

WHAT ARE THE RULES IF WE, WE FIND THAT THIS IS A GOOD THING TO DO, ARE WE ALLOWED TO GO OUT AND SOLICIT SPONSORSHIPS ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMISSION, WHICH IS PART OF THE CITY? SO IN THEORY, IN THEORY, WE'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY CUZ I GUARANTEE YOU IN THIS AREA WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING A FEW PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND SPONSOR A WATER STATION.

UM, WE WON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A PROBLEM POTENTIALLY DONATING SHIRTS.

WE WON'T HAVE PEOPLE CUZ THAT'S THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THIS IS.

YOU GUYS SHARED THAT LAST NIGHT BY HONORING SOMEONE WHO DID SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS ORGANIZING SUNDAY, SATURDAY BREAKFAST, BUT THE IMPACT WAS PHENOMENAL.

SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO HELP.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT ONE, CAN WE DO IT? TWO, HOW CAN WE DO IT? AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE WILL KIND OF FALL INTO PLACE THAT THAT'S OKAY.

WELL, UM, SO WHAT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL TABLE THIS.

UM, I HAVE A COUNSELING, UH, I'M GOING BEFORE THE COUNCIL'S WORK SESSION ON OCTOBER 16TH.

SO BETWEEN ME AND MIKE, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO PROVIDE A UPDATE ON THE INFORMATION.

DANA, COULD YOU SEND ME, EMAIL ME THOSE OR TEXT ME THOSE CONCERNS THAT YOU JUST RAISED SO I CAN, UM, ME AND MIKE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO'S LANE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND UPDATE AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

PERFECT.

AND I, I'M SORRY IF I, THAT WAS NOT AN INTENT TO SHUT THIS DOWN AT ALL.

IT'S JUST, I KNOW THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE TO ASK FIRST BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY ASK FOR THE DETAILS.

UM, THE OTHER THING, AND I KIND OF SHARED IT QUIETLY, IS MAY IS ACTUALLY MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHY TO WHAT TOM'S SAYING ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING THAT IS MEANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE LIVING ON A DAY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AND RESPECTING THE DAD.

UM, BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAT MONTH AND IT MIGHT EVEN HELP GENERATE, BUT WE COULD ALSO COMPLETELY PUSH IT OFF AND DO IT IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS SUICIDE AWARENESS MONTH.

AND WE COULD DO IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A MIRACLE FESTIVAL.

I'M FLEXIBLE.

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I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANY, ANY WAY OR HOW OF DOING THINGS.

I WOULD JUST, LIKE, I DON'T, I DON'T JUST FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS, AS A CITY, KNOWING SOME COUNCILS, HOW MUCH DO FOR THEM NEVER DO THAT.

BUT BASICALLY THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS TO SUPPORT SOMETHING AND THOSE ARE THE DETAILS AND, AND STAFF CAN LOGISTICALLY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.

I DON'T BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WOULD HAVE ANY QUALM OR VALUE OF SUPPORTING ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

SURE.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, JUST FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, FROM HERE, MOVING ON, AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND OUT THE DETAILS TO FIND OUT STILL BEING LOGISTIC.

LOGISTICALLY THIS IS CAPABLE OF US HANDLING WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO.

I THINK, I MEAN I LOVE THE IDEA, BUT I JUST EXPLORE DETAILS BEING IRONED OUT AND THEN COME FORWARD WITH THOSE THINGS AND THEN WE CAN, WE, AS THE COMMISSION AS SUCH AS PEACE ON HAS, UM, KIND OF GARNERED TO IT, IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAKE RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL WITH HIS BRIEFING TO THEM THAT, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING BE ABLE TO POSSIBLY RECOMMEND THIS.

WE NEED SOME DETAILS AND GET BACK WITH THEM.

GETTING THE APPROVAL SUPPORT BEHIND.

I HONESTLY, I DO NOT THINK ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM SUPPORTING AID WITH THIS.

IT'S JUST THE LOGISTICS.

JUST LOGISTICS FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE.

YEP.

THAT'S ALL.

IS THERE A GOOD POINT OF CONTACT FOR SOMEBODY WITHIN THE CITY STAFF THAT'S RUN EVENTS LIKE THIS BEFORE? THAT'S ALL YOU.

I JUST NEED, I NEED THOSE DETAILS AND THEN I'LL RUN 'EM THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE SAFETY DIRECTOR, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO THOSE WOULD BE, SOME OF US HAS, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE DIFFERENT STRAW HATS ON THIS TIME, SO.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I HAD ONE OTHER PIECE OF NEW BUSINESS.

SHOULD I PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT WEEK? WE TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY.

UM, LET'S, UM, WELL, LET'S TABLE THAT FOR NOW.

AND, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST, I THINK YOU AND I, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BRING IT UP.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YOURN, DID WE NEED TO MOVE TO ADJOURN? SECOND MEETING? ADJOURN.

7 0 7.

1907.

OH BOY.

GOOD.

SO WHAT I, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THIS IS NOT BUT COOL BAG.

YEAH.

DON'T FORGET YOUR BAG EVERYBODY.

OH, SO IT WAS IN THE MOUNTAIN, LIKE, ANYWAY, SHE RAN TO SPRING.

THEY ENDED UP SHARING STORIES.

COURSE.

CAUSE YOU KNOW THEY HAVE 35 TOGETHER.

EVERYBODY FORGET YOUR BAGS.

YOU GOT THEM MEETING A MEETING? UH, NOT ADJOURN.

NO, I'M JUST PLAYING THE VA MEDICAL CENTER.

THE 16TH ANNUAL STAND DOWN FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 11 TO 1:00 PM THEY WILL BE PROVIDING A DRIVE THROUGH WHERE THEY WILL BE GIVING YOU A BACKPACK WITH VA AND COMMUNITY RESOURCE INFORMATION, TOILETRIES AND WINTER ITEMS ALONG WITH THE FOOD BAG, MILITARY RAIN, PONCHO, AND SNACKS.

AND THE EVENT OF SEVERE WEATHER, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 14TH.

SAME TIME, SAME VET CHANNEL.

THANK YOU.

BETTER GET THOSE PONCHOS FOR VETERANS TODAY.

TODAY, RIGHT.

I'M GETTING YOU A.