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ALL RIGHT.[ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road September 1, 2022 7:00 P.M. ]
WE WILL CALL THE MEETING OF IN CUPRA HEIGHTS, CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION TO BORDER AT 7:03 PM.CAN I BRING YOU DURING THE ROLL CALL TONIGHT? UH, YES.
THE RECORD WILL REFLECT THAT, UH, MR. STEVENS AND MISS STEGALL ARE NOT IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, BUT THEN ALL OTHER MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
AND THEY ARE BOTH EXCUSED TONIGHT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UM, FOR JUNE THE SECOND.
ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE JUNE? SECOND MINUTE, ONE QUESTION.
DO WE, DO WE APPROVE THE AGENDA? NO.
BUT WE HAVE SIX O'CLOCK ON THE AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE JUNE 2ND MINUTES? UM, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE AT LEAST ONE.
MISS NEWBIE ON PAGE THREE ON THE FOURTH AND FIFTH LINE WHERE IT STARTS VIRGIL CARTER FROM EXPRESS FITNESS, THAT SHOULD SAY EXPRESS FITNESS STUDIOS, FITNESS STUDIOS OF, HEY, UM, REFLECT THAT CHANGE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL CALL A, UM, VOTE TO ACCEPT THE JUNE 2ND MINUTES AS READ.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, MOTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES WITH THE REFLECTING, THE AMENDMENTS, UH, ADOPTED MINUTES NECESSARILY? IS THERE A SECOND? THAT WAS MS. SIMON.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
WE WILL ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS REFLECTED WITH THE CHANGES ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSITION, RIGHT THEN THE MINUTES.
SO FOR THE JULY 7TH MINUTES, WE HAVE RECEIVED THOSE MINUTES FROM TARA, BUT LAST MONTH, OR I'M SORRY, JULY, THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE VIDEO AND THE AUDIO SINKING.
SO, UM, MS. PURVIS HAS SENT OUT THE MINUTES AS SHE WAS ABLE TO GATHER THEM, BUT SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE A RECORDING, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE, UM, THE JULY 7TH MINUTES AND VOTING ON THOSE FROM OUR NEXT MEETING, ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THAT IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THE HUBER HEIGHTS, CULTURE AND DIVERSITY.
SO THIS IS ACTION COMMISSION, JULY 7TH, 2022 MINUTES UNTIL THE OCTOBER MEETING.
WE WILL MOVE THAT THOSE MINUTES TO THE OCTOBER MEETING.
WE WILL MOVE TO CITIZEN COMMENTS, WELCOME TO OUR CITIZENS AND OUR VISITORS.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS? RIGHT.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW ME, I AM DAVID THOMAS, I'M PRESIDENT OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS, PERFORMING ARTS.
AND, UH, THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF YOU THAT I ALREADY KNOW AND EVERYTHING.
AND IF WORKED FOOTBALL WITH, ESPECIALLY, UM, I JUST WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY, UM, JUST TO JUST A COUPLE GENERAL THINGS.
NUMBER ONE WAS ABOUT THE BEER GARDEN THAT WE HAD AT THE MC FESTIVAL.
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UM, WE DID END UP EITHER BREAKING EVEN, OR LOSING A LITTLE BIT MONEY ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, INSURANCE AND THE LICENSE.AND THERE WASN'T A LOT OF, OF SALES THAT DAY.
IT WAS MORE OF, UM, I THINK PART OF IT IS BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES THAT ARE NOT ISSUES, BUT EVENTS THAT WERE GOING ON, WHICH I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.
BUT ONE THING THAT I CAN SAY THAT I'M GOING TO BE TAKING UP WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE WERE EXTREMELY UPSET ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE PORTA JOHNS WERE LINED UP IN FRONT OF THE BEER GARDEN SO NOBODY COULD SEE IT.
UM, I KNOW THAT IF I HAD BEEN THERE, WHICH I COULDN'T BECAUSE I HAD ALREADY, UM, HAD ACCEPTED A DJ GIG FOR THAT DAY, I WENT THE NIGHT BEFORE TO HELP SET UP BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN I WENT OUT THERE AFTERWARDS TO LOCK EVERYTHING UP AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING CLEANED UP AND TORN DOWN, ALL THE PORTA JOHNS WERE LINED UP ACROSS THE FENCE LINE IN FRONT OF THE BEER GARDEN AREA, WHICH PEOPLE COULDN'T SEE WHEN THEY CAME IN.
I MEAN, EVENTUALLY THEY PROBABLY DID SEE IT, BUT JUST THE FACT THAT THEY WERE LINED UP THERE WAS VERY, VERY UPSETTING TO ME AND A COUPLE OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TOO, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.
AND WE DO NOT BLAME, UM, THIS COMMISSION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I DO BLAME PARKS AND RECREATION BECAUSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT TRANSPIRED DAYS BEFORE THEY GOT CHANGED AFTER AGREEMENTS HAD ALREADY BEEN MADE AND EVERYTHING WITH PARKS AND REC.
AND I WILL BE TAKING THAT UP WITH, UM, WITH JOSH AND REFERENCED TO THAT.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT IF THEY HAD SET THAT UP IN FRONT OF A, A FOOD TRUCK OR ANYTHING, THEY WOULD'VE COMPLAINED PROBABLY JUST AS, OR BEEN JUST AS MUCH AS UPSET AS WE'RE UPSET ABOUT IT.
AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE PLACEMENT OF THAT WAS DONE.
I CAN TELL YOU THOUGH, HOWEVER, THAT OUR BOARD IS VERY PLEASED WITH THE WAY THAT OUR BOARD AND THE COMMISSION WORKED TOGETHER.
UM, IT WAS OUR FIRST EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE COMMISSION AND WE THOROUGHLY ENJOYED IT.
WE APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND SERVE AND NOT ONLY SERVE THE COMMISSION, BUT SERVE THE COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BEER.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY LIKES A GOOD BEER EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
UM, UH, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, THAT I WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU IS I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE OF ALL THE EVENTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY GOING ON THAT DAY.
AND WE WERE KIND OF CHALKING IT UP TO, UH, WHY THERE WAS NOT A VERY LARGE ATTENDANCE PLUS I UNDERSTAND SOME GROUPS THAT CANCELED, UM, AT THE LAST MINUTE AND DIDN'T PERFORM FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, I WORK FOR DAYTON LIVE, WHICH IS WORKING FOR THE SCHUSTER, THE VICTORIA, UH, THE LOFT AND THE PNC ADDAX.
SO MY HAND, I'M A HOUSE MANAGER FOR THE SCHUSTER CENTER AND THE OTHER FACILITIES, BUT COME TO FIND OUT THAT DAY, THERE WERE 10 EVENTS ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, WHICH I'M NOT SURE ALL OF YOU WERE AWARE OF BECAUSE WHEN MY, UM, TREASURE TOLD ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE TURNOUT AND EVERYTHING AND WHAT YOU GUYS WERE EXPECTING AND WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING, ALSO, I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE 10 EVENTS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME AS THE MC FESTIVAL.
UM, THERE WAS A SHOE STORE EVENT.
THERE WAS A VICTORIA THEATER EVENT.
THERE WAS EVENT AT THE, UM, PHRASE PAVILION AT THE EICHELBERGER PAVILION DOWNTOWN, AND SOME OTHER AREA ONES.
UM, IN OTHER CITIES THAT WERE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT I THINK KIND OF HURT THE FESTIVAL ITSELF THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO DO.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REMEDY THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN I FOUND THAT OUT, THAT MADE A LOT MORE SENSE ON WHY THERE WEREN'T A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN WHAT I KNOW THAT, UM, THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AND FIGURED OUT THAT THERE, THERE MIGHT POSSIBLY BE.
THE THING THAT I AM TAKING AWAY FROM THIS THOUGH, IS THAT HUBER HEIGHTS, PERFORMING ARTS DOES WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION ON OTHER PROJECTS.
WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT WITH YOU.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED WITH OUR VERY FIRST ONE THAT WE DID, EVEN THOUGH IT, IT KIND OF HURT US A LITTLE BIT IN THE LONG RUN, BUT AS FAR AS OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMISSION, WE THINK IT'S GREAT.
AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU GUYS, UM, ARE THINKING THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO THAT.
WE DO WANT TO WORK TOGETHER ON SOME OTHER PROJECTS AND YOU HAVE OUR FULL SUPPORT FOR ANY PROJECTS THAT YOU NEED HELP WITH.
AND THERE MAY EVEN BE A TIME THAT I COME AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND SAY, HEY, WE, WE NEED
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SOME VOLUNTEERS OR WE NEED SOME HELP BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UM, OUR BOARD IS DOWN TO FIVE.WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT SOME MORE MEMBERS.
UM, SO BASICALLY I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY.
I MAY, IT TO ME WHEN, WHEN I GOT THE PHONE CALL, UM, FROM MS. KITCHEN, AND THEN YULANA, AND RHONDA, BOTH THAT GOT IN CONTACT WITH ME, I WAS ECSTATIC.
AND WHEN THEY TOLD ME WHAT IT WAS, I KNOW, I KNOW HOW BEER SALES GO.
ESPECIALLY LIKE IF THE SCHUSTER, THE VIC AND, AND EVEN AT THE ROSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT I THINK THERE WERE JUST A LOT OF THINGS AGAINST US AT THE TIME.
UM, AND IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT? SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED, AND WE ARE THERE TO HELP YOU OUT WITH ANY OTHER NEEDS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
AND THANKS FOR THAT FEEDBACK TOO, BECAUSE WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR NEXT YEAR.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU ON OUR PLANNING COMMITTEE FOR NEXT YEAR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT OR SOMEONE FROM THE PERFORMING ARTS, UM, WE INVITE YOU TO DO THAT AS WELL.
UM, THE CO THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL ACTUALLY WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
WE HAD ABOUT 400 PEOPLE, WHICH WAS, UM, I THINK MORE THAN I ANTICIPATED FOR OUR FIRST GO ROUND.
UM, AND OF COURSE WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND SO, AS WE THINK ABOUT THAT, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOGISTICS ARE SET SUCH THAT THERE'S VISIBILITY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO, UM, MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND INVITE YOU TO BE A PART OF OUR PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH PARKS AND REC AS WELL.
AND YES, I, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS HAPPENED.
SO, AND I WILL TELL YOU, UM, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, MY BACKGROUND WAS IN THE JCS FOR, UH, PROBABLY 20 YEARS.
AND I ACTUALLY RAN THE HUBER HEIGHTS 4TH OF JULY FESTIVAL, UH, AT THE TIME BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES WHEN WE HAD IT.
AND I WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT FESTIVAL.
SO I'VE GOT A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
UM, I WAS ALSO WORKING WITH MARK BRUNS ON THE, UM, PAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THE 4TH OF JULY, TRYING TO GET SOMETHING WORKING, BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PLANS FELL APART AND THEN COVID HIT AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER ISSUES.
SO I DO HAVE A LOT OF, UM, LARGE FESTIVAL ORGANIZATIONS.
I USED TO BE A, A CHRISTIAN CONCERT PROMOTER.
UM, I BROUGHT IN SOME BIG NAME ACTS FOR THOSE OF YOU THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME LARGE CHRISTIAN ARTISTS.
UM, AND IN FACT, JUST RECENTLY, I HAD TALKED WITH, UH, CC WINES, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FROM MARIAN, MY SON PLAYED DRUMS FOR HER WHEN SHE WAS UP AT THE NEW, UM, RV GUEST THEATER.
CAUSE MY SON IS THE WORSHIP TEAM LEADER FOR THE STUDENTS UP AT TROY CHRISTIAN HIGH SCHOOL.
SO IT RUNS IN OUR FAMILY, IT RUNS IN OUR BLOOD, BUT I DO HAVE THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND, AND TALK TO YOU GUYS OUT WITH SOME OF THAT STUFF.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE PARTNERSHIP AND WORKING TOGETHER AND WE'VE WORKED WELL TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE WILL MOVE SORT TO OUR GUESTS LADY BUG LEMONADE.
YOU PROBABLY NOTICED LEMONADE, UM, ELIMINATES STAND OUT IN THE LOBBY AND WE HAVE LADY BUG LEMONADE HERE TODAY, AND SHE'S A, SHE'S A LITTLE SHY SHE'S UM, HASN'T DONE THIS, BUT ONCE BEFORE, AND LAST TIME SHE DID IT, SHE, SHE GOT TOO NERVOUS.
SO I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HOW WE GOT STARTED WITH THE LEMONADE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH RIVER VALLEY CREDIT UNION.
THEY HAD A NATIONAL LEMONADE DAY, UM, AND THEY HAD LESSONS AND IT HAD, UM, EVERYTHING WAS GEARED TOWARDS LITTLE KIDS.
SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH, UM, THINK IT WAS LIKE 16 LESSONS WE HAD TO GO THROUGH AND IT TAUGHT THEM BUDGETING.
IT TAUGHT THEM HOW TO, UM, ASK FOR DONORS HOW TO GET INVESTORS.
UM, AND THEN WHAT, WHAT ELSE DID IT TEACH YOU? TEACH ME ABOUT HOW TO MAKE AND SPEND A LITTLE, GIVE A LITTLE AND SAVE A LITTLE BIT.
SO I TAUGHT HER HOW TO SPEND A LITTLE, GIVE A LITTLE, SAVE A LITTLE.
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SO THE ADULT, UM, SHE DECIDED TO DONATE SOME OF HER PROCEEDS TO DIABETES, DIABETES DATE.AND WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY, I DIABETIC.
SO WE CAME UP WITH A SUGAR-FREE, UM, LEMONADE.
SO I GO TO FESTIVALS AND NEVER CAN GET THE LEMONADE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HARDLY EVER HAVE SUGAR FREE.
SO WE CAME UP WITH A STRAWBERRY SUGAR-FREE AND A RASPBERRY SUGAR FREE, AND THEN TELL THEM YOUR OTHER FLAVORS.
UM, MY OTHER FAVORITE FLAVORS ARE STRAWBERRY BREAK KILLER.
UM, AND MY FAVORITE, MY FAVORITE IS STRAWBERRY OF PETE MIXED TOGETHER, MIXED THE BACK.
SO WE HAVE A PEACH, A STRAWBERRY, UM, SUGAR-FREE AND, UM, RAGGED.
WE ALSO HAVE ONE CALLED SUNRISE SUNSET, BUT WE SELL IT EVERY NOW AND AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IT, IT'S MY SECRET RECIPE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT ON A MENU ALL THE TIME.
SO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM ABOUT YOUR POSTER? WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS? SO ONE OF THE LESSONS SHE HAD TO DO, BUT TWO HAD TO DO WITH, I HAD TO DO A TASTE TEST WITH ALL MY ELIMINATES AND SEE, UM, HOW DID IT TASTE AND HOW DID IT NOT TASTE? SO WE CREATED AN INVITATION.
WE INVITED SOME PEOPLE OVER AND THEY SAMPLED OUR LEMONADE.
THIS WAS OUR FIRST GO ROUND IN SOME OF IT WAS GOOD.
AND SOME OF IT, THE STRAWBERRY WAS TOO THICK BECAUSE HE USED A LOT OF STRAWBERRIES.
WE PUT TOO MANY STRAWBERRIES IN IT AND IT CAME OUT MORE LIKE A SMOOTHIE.
THEY GAVE US INPUT AND WE RE WENT BACK IN THE KITCHEN IN THE LAB AND WE RECREATED SOME OTHER FLAVORS.
SO SHE HAD TO CREATE HER BUSINESS PLAN.
AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY, THE CREDIT UNION DID A DAY WHERE ALL THE KIDS, UM, CAME TO A PARK AND THEY PUT IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY DID LIKE A CONTEST.
SO LONDON ACTUALLY WON FIRST PLACE FOR THE BEST BUSINESS PLAN.
UM, AND THEN HER ACTUAL FIRST DAY OF SALES, WE DECIDED TO GO TO A BARBERSHOP.
SO SHE HAD TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE OWNER OF THE BARBERSHOP.
CAUSE SHE SET UP, HE SAID, YES, WE WENT AND WE SOLD OUT.
SO ACTUALLY WE'VE BEEN BACK TO HIS BARBERSHOP SEVERAL TIMES.
SO, SO THEY REALLY LOVE HER LEMONADE.
SO SHE'S GETTING HER NAME OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SHE'S HAVING A LOT OF FUN.
I TOLD HER WHEN SHE STOPPED HAVING FUN, THEN WE'RE GOING TO STOP.
CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S FIVE FOR HER AND SHE'S STILL LEARNING, BUT SHE'S ACTUALLY READY TO SPEND SOME OF HER MONEY.
BUT WE FIRST, WE TOLD HER WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETE COMPLETED FOR THE SUMMER.
OUR LAST EVENT IS SEPTEMBER THE 30TH.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A CHECK UP TO THE DIABETES ASSOCIATION AND GIVE THEM THEIR CHECK
YOU ARE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB.
YOU ARE EIGHT AND YOU HAVE A BUSINESS.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LIKE OLDER GROWN PEOPLE THAT CAN SAY THAT, RIGHT? SO YOU ARE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB.
AND YOU ARE A, UH, BLACK FEMALE OWNED BUSINESS, WHICH IS AWESOME.
AND THERE'S A LOT THAT COMES UP AGAINST BLACK BUSINESSES AND BLACK WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES AT THAT.
AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S, UM, THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME IN PLAY THAT DISCOURAGE US FROM MOVING FORWARD AND ACCOMPLISHING OUR GOALS AND OUR DREAMS. BUT GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE NOT LETTING THAT STOP YOU AND DON'T EVER LET THAT STOP YOU.
UM, SO WE DID BRING SO LEMONADE FOR YOU GUYS TO SAMPLE TONIGHT.
WE BROUGHT PEACH STRAWBERRY, THE SUGAR-FREE AND THEN WE BOUGHT THE REGULAR.
UM, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE READY TO TASTE IT, SO WHERE WILL YOU BE? YOU SAID YOU HAVE AN EVENT COMING UP ON THE 30TH.
WE WILL BE AT, I CAN, OH, I BE AN OLD PART IN THE RIGHT DUNBAR DISTRICT.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A FREE CONCERT GOING ON THAT NIGHT.
UM, THINK IS THE GROUP IS CALLED TOP FLIGHT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE THAT NIGHT, UM, PERFORMING AND WE'RE GOING TO SET UP OUR STAY AND THEY ASKED US IF WE COULD COME AND SET UP THE STAND.
WE JUST DID ONE THERE, UM, LAST FRIDAY
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AND SHE DID SO WELL, THEY HAD A REGGAE CONCERT AND SHE DID SO WELL THAT THEY ASKED US TO COME BACK.CAUSE THEY DO THEIR, UM, MUSIC IN THE PARK THINK IS ONCE A MONTH.
SO THERE'S SEPTEMBER IS THE 30TH AND THEY ASKED US TO COME BACK.
WELL, AGAIN, I AM DEFINITELY PROUD OF YOU AS WELL.
YOU ARE DEFINITELY AN INSPIRATION TO A LOT OF US HERE, BUT WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO DO A LEMONADE BUSINESS? UM, I ASKED HER, DID SHE WANT TO DO THE LEMONADE? BECAUSE THE CREDIT UNION HAD IT GOING ON FOR THE KIDS.
AND I ASKED HER THAT WISHED SHE LIKED TO DO IT.
CAUSE, YOU KNOW, I TOLD HER SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO SQUEEZE LIMIT BECAUSE OUR LEMONS ARE FRESH SQUEEZED THAT SHE FOUND OUT THAT YOU DON'T RUB YOUR EYE WHEN YOU'RE REVENUE LIMITS.
UM, BUT SHE, SHE SQUEEZED THE LEMONS, BUT I ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED TO DO IT.
AND I TOLD HER IT WAS A CUT ME AND ME.
CAUSE WE, SHE HAD TO, HER MOM HAD TO BRING HER OVER, UM, ONCE A WEEK AND WE WENT OVER THE LESSON.
SO THEY ACT, THEY SUGGEST THAT YOU DO THE LESSONS SLOWLY, SO THEY WON'T GET OVERWHELMED AND WHAT EVERYTHING WAS GEARED FOR HER AGE.
AND, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS AMAZING.
I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH IT.
SO, SO WE JUST DECIDED TO KEEP IT UP FOR THE SUMMER AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO STOP FOR THE WINTER AND THEN WE'LL START BACK UP SUMMERTIME IF SHE WANTS ONE COMMENT, I JUST HAVE TO, UM, I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING THE BUSINESS PLAN.
SO, UM, LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, AND, AND, AND GOOD JOB WITH THE BUSINESS AND MOST BUSINESS PEOPLE, DON'T START OFF THINKING ABOUT SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.
UM, WE NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE BUSINESSES GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE IN THIS, IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN OUR WORLD TO CREATE SOME SYNERGY, TO SOLVE SOME OF THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS. SO THANK YOU FOR, UM, GIVING BACK TO THE DIABETES, DAYTON FOUNDATION AS WELL, AND, UM, KUDOS TO YOUR PARENTS FOR BRINGING YOU OUT AND HELPING YOU DEVELOP YOUR BUSINESS PLAN THAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED LOOKING AT.
UM, AS A BUSINESS PROFESSOR, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME TIPS, IF YOU WANT IT, IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S FINE.
IT'S REALLY GENERIC BECAUSE IT WAS FOR KIDS.
BUT, UM, SHE DID LEARN A LOT CAUSE YOU KNOW, JUST LEARNING A LOT FROM IT, BUT THIS IS A MOM RIGHT HERE, JASMINE, UM, GRANDPA HOUSING COPY.
SO WE, WE FOUND OUT THAT JUST AS A FAMILY THING, CAUSE IT TAKES ALL OF US TO DO IT.
AND THEN MY, I HAVE ANOTHER DAUGHTER THAT'S 22 THAT ACTUALLY LIVES IN HUBER.
UM, SHE'S NOT HERE, BUT SHE USUALLY HELPED US.
AND THEN LONDON IS REALLY, REALLY CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTED.
HOW CAN WE, UH, HOW CAN WE FOLLOW YOU ON SOCIAL MEDIA? SO SHE DOES HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGES, LADY BUDS, LEMONADE, AND SHE'S VERY ACTIVE ON IT.
AND SO WE'RE THEN WE STARTED, WE STARTED TO PAGE ONCE WE STARTED JUST TO IN, SO PEOPLE ARE ASKING, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE? PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING, CAN WE BUY, CAN THEY BUY ABOUT A GALLON? BUT THAT'S JUST SO TIME CONSUMING.
SO LAPTOPS, I SAY, NO, YOU KNOW, SO WE JUST SELL IT BY IT CUPS.
AND HOW, HOW, HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE PLAN INTO YOUR BUSINESS? UM, HOW CAN THEY HELP YOU WITH YOUR BUSINESS? WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM THE COMMUNITY? THIS CUP LEMONADE COME BY.
HOW MUCH IS YOU? ELIMINATE $3, $3.
AND THE 16 OUNCE CUPS USED TO BE TWO USED TO BE TWO, BUT WE INFLATION, RIGHT? I'M A PLANT $50 IN YOUR BUSINESS.
YOU GUYS HAVE A CASH APP FOR HER.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION, QUESTION, A COMMENT.
SO ARE YOU AWARE THAT GO FUND ME HAS A GRANT RIGHT NOW FOR LEMONADE STAND FOR KIDS.
I WANT TO SAY IT'S $500, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I CONNECT WITH YOU ON THAT.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE PLANS FOR LONDON WANTS TO GET AN ELECTRIC LEMON SQUEEZER.
I DIDN'T EVEN, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY MADE THEM.
I GOT ON AMAZON CAUSE WE, UM, SO NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, ADVANCE IT.
AND ALSO PLEASE, WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS
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AND FESTIVALS HERE, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE LADY BUGS.UM, SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR HER TO SET UP HER STAND HERE TO IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR HAVING US AND THEN SAY ANYTHING.
AND THEN YOU BROUGHT LEMONADE TODAY.
SO DO YOU GUYS WANT ME TO SERVE IT NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL YOUR MEANS OVER IT'S UP TO YOU? HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT? ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? YOU CAN TAKE A BREAK.
UM, BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE A LONG MEETING TONIGHT.
DID YOU WANT A RECESS FOR, LET'S SAY 15 MINUTES, MAYBE 10, 10.
WELL THEN WE WILL RESET THE MEETING FOR 10 MINUTES.
WE'RE BACK ON AND WE'RE READY TO GO WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
NO, JUST PUT IT ANYWHERE OVER THERE.
SO THANK YOU TO LADYBUG LEMONADE FOR COMING TO VISIT AND BRING THE LEMONADE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR OLD BUSINESS.
FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS THE CITIZEN COMPLAINT REVIEW BOARD AND MR. STEVENS IS NOT HERE, BUT I BELIEVE MS. TARA PURVIS IS GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT, UM, TO SHARE THE UPDATE ON THE CITIZENS COMPLAINT REVIEW BOARD.
UM, SINCE WE HAVEN'T MET SINCE JULY, UM, QUITE A BIT HAS HAPPENED WITH THAT.
UM, ERIC STEVENS, ERIC RICHARDSON AND MYSELF HAVE HAD, UM, ABOUT EVERY OTHER WEEK MEETINGS WITH, UM, BRIAN AND CHIEF LEITNER, UM, TO GO OVER SOME DETAILS ARE PRE-PLANNING FOR THIS BOARD, UM, ON WHAT WE WOULD WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE OR PERCEIVE IT TO BE.
UM, SO FAR WE HAVE IT HAVING, UM, SEVEN MEMBERS, UM, ONE FROM THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION, ONE FROM THE NAACP, UM, ONE FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, BUT CLOSE CITY TIES OR WITHIN THE CITY, UM, RESIDENCY, UM, ONE WITH A LAW TYPE BACKGROUND, UM, LIKE A, A LAWYER, BUT WITH A RELEVANT BACKGROUND TO THIS, UM, THEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY FROM THE LARGEST ETHNIC GROUP.
UM, AND THEN TWO MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM THE FIRST AND SECOND OF THE LARGEST MINORITY GROUPS, UM, BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS DATA.
UM, CAUSE THAT'S ABOUT AS BASED MAYBE ON A 2020 CENSUS DATA CAUSE THAT'S, UM, THE MOST RECENT, YOU KNOW, PLACE WE COULD PULL THAT INFORMATION FROM.
UM, THERE WOULD BE TWO ADDITIONAL NON-VOTING MEMBERS OR, WELL, EXCUSE ME, LET ME PUT THAT BACK.
THE TWO NON ADDITIONAL NON-VOTING MEMBERS WOULD BE ONE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR A DESIGNEE OF CHIEF LIGHTENERS AND THEN ONE FROM THE CITY, UM, LIKE THE LAW DIRECTOR OR SOMEBODY DESIGNATED FROM THE CITY TO SERVE AS NON-VOTING MEMBERS KIND OF WEIGH IN ON THINGS THAT CAN AND CANNOT HAPPEN FROM JUST THAT STANDPOINT.
UM, WE ARE FOCUSING ON ISSUES THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELEVANT TO, UM, THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 AND THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT ACT, WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 AND THOSE SPECIFIC PROTECTED CLASSES.
UM, THIS IS NOT TO BE A BOARD TO STAND UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BETTY FELT THAT SHE WAS DISRESPECTED IN A WAY THAT WAS NOT RELEVANT TO SOME TYPE OF A CIVIL RIGHTS CLAIM.
UM, THE PROCESS OF COURSE WILL BE NOT, OF COURSE THE PROCESS WILL BE, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FIRST.
THIS IS SOMEBODY MAKES A CLAIM AND IT IS VETTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AN OUTCOME IS LODGED LOADED, UH, YEAH, RENDER THEIR, THANK YOU.
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AND THEN BASED ON THAT OUTCOME THAT SOMEBODY DID NOT AGREE WITH THAT OUTCOME OF THAT INVESTIGATION AND THEN WOULD HAVE THE CHANCE TO REQUEST THIS TYPE OF A REVIEW.UM, THE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS WHAT ERIC HAS NOTED AS WELL AS THE REST OF US.
THE POINT FOR THIS IS TO BE VERY PROACTIVE IN THESE APPROACH TO HAVE AN OPEN, TRANSPARENT PROCESS, UM, AND NOT TO BE REACTIVE, UM, AFTER THE FACT WHEN THESE THINGS ARE NEEDED, IF THIS IS A NEED WHEN IT BECOMES A NEED.
UM, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE HAVE MUCH MORE TO SHARE FROM THAT.
WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN TWO WEEKS, UM, TO FURTHER GET THROUGH SOME ISSUES, UM, PLAN SOME THINGS OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE MUCH MORE TO ADD JAKE, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SO FAR? WHAT DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? WHAT ARE THE AVENUES THAT THEY WOULD SUBMIT IF THEY'RE NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FINDINGS? SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT, UM, AS ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THE PLAN IS TO HAVE, UH, A FORM AVAILABLE IN PAPER HERE, UM, A FORM AVAILABLE FOR ONLINE SUBMISSION.
UM, AS WELL AS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT FORM IN AS MANY LANGUAGES OR THE ABILITY TO TRANSLATE INTO LANGUAGES AS NEEDED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, ENGLISH SPEAKING FIRST AND WE NEED TO BE, UM, OPEN TO THAT AND UNDERSTANDING OF, YOU KNOW, THE VARIETY OF MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I GUESS, CAN I ASK HER A QUESTION WHEN THEY GET A LETTER BACK FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT SAYS, HEY, IT WASN'T VALID OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
A PART OF THAT LETTER WILL BE LANGUAGE TO SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN DO, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN BRING INTO THIS COMMISSION, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, TAKE IT, YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THEY CAN HAVE RIGHT THERE.
SO THEY GET IT ALL AT ONE TIME.
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED BACK FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO IN ADDITION, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS GOING FORWARD.
SO THEY HAVE AN AVENUE BESIDES, CAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE WAS HAVING TO GO TO THE POLICE ABOUT AN ISSUE WITH THE BULLY.
SO THAT ALLOWS US AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT HAVE, TO HAVE A PERSON NOT BRING SOMETHING FOR.
AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS WILL DEFINITELY BE IF THEY WANT TO BRING THAT HERE.
AND IF WE CAN HELP THEM EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WHOLE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO IF THEY WANT SOMEONE TO, HEY, I DON'T REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING THROUGH WITH IT.
CAN YOU GUYS HELP ME WALK THROUGH IT? SO I UNDERSTAND IT.
SO OUR INFORMATION WILL BE THERE AS WELL TO HELP WALK THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT, I KNOW THE MEETING THAT WE MET WITH CITY COUNCIL AND IT MOVING FROM, UM, INTERNAL TO AN EXTERNAL MEETINGS, WAS THERE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT THIS DISCUSSION REGARDING, UM, BEING COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF ALL CITY OR ALL POLICE? IT REALLY IS.
IT REALLY IS INDEPENDENT OF ALL POLICE INTERACTIONS IN THIS PROCESS OTHER THAN THEY ARE PROVIDING THE REPORTS AND THE OUTCOME OF THEIR INVESTIGATION, BUT TO MAKE IT A 5 0 1, 3 C OR TO HAND IT OVER TO ANOTHER GROUP WOULD FURTHER DELAY THE PROCESS.
AND WE JUST KIND OF FELT AS A GROUP TO NOT FURTHER IMPEDE THIS, THAT TO STAND IT UP AS A FIVE AND ONE, THREE C AND JUMP THROUGH ALL THOSE HOOPS TO STAND SOMETHING UP AS A NONPROFIT WOULD PROBABLY PUT US AT LEAST ANOTHER CALENDAR YEAR, POSSIBLY OUT BEFORE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE MOVES WITH THIS.
SO FOR US AS THE REFORM GROUP, AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, WE REALLY FELT THAT TO STAND IT UP COMPLETELY INDEPENDENTLY WOULD PROBABLY NOT WORK OR WOULD BE AS FEASIBLE.
UM, WE HAVE IT COMING, FILTERING IN AND OUT AT THIS POINT THROUGH CITY STAFF, YOU KNOW, STRICTLY AS SOMEBODY TAKES THIS PAPERWORK AND SENDS IT TO THE NEXT PERSON THAT IS THE LAW DIRECTOR AND THEY ISSUE A RESPONSE TO THE CLAIM.
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PAPER COMES BACK AND IS THEN SENT TO THIS BOARD TO REVIEW AND ISSUE A FINDING IF THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.UM, SO THE HANDS ARE IN THE POT ONLY TO HELP MAKE SURE THE PROCESS STAYS IN ALIGNMENT.
UM, HOW WE VISION IT RIGHT NOW, ENVISION IT RIGHT NOW.
UM, IT IS AS INDEPENDENT AS WE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE IT WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY AS POSSIBLE PROCESS.
I THINK, UH, ONE THING I THINK WE WANT TO THINK THROUGH OR THINK ABOUT IS THE MORE HANDS WE HAVE, THE, IT INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THINGS GET COME UP MISSING OR GET LOST OR ARE THERE PARAMETERS AROUND HOW WE CAN, UM, PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING? I GUESS.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'D BE A LOT OF HANDS THAT WILL BE IN IT.
SO WHOEVER THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO GO TO.
SO RATHER IT'S COME TO A MEMBER HERE, PUT IT ONLINE MAIL IN AND WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, UH, RIGHT NOW THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET IT WHERE IT COMES THROUGH TONY'S OFFICE.
SO THAT'S JUST ONE HAND THAT'S THERE.
THEN IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO TONY TO GET NOT UP TO, BUT HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO GET IT TO THE LAW DIRECTOR, TO SEE IF A, DOES IT MEAN THAT A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE HAS HAPPENED AND THEN HE CAN ISSUE SOME FORM OF FIGHTING EITHER YES OR NO.
AND AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE, BECAUSE NOW IT'S GOING TO THIS BOARD THAT'S THERE.
SO IT REALLY NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT HANDS MIGHT EXPLAIN THAT KIND OF, RIGHT.
SO IT WOULD JUST, JUST THOSE TWO STEPS AND THEN IT'S RIGHT TO THIS BOARD AND THEN THEY GOT, UH, CHARGED.
YOU'LL HAVE TO GET YOU THE EXACT DAYS OF OKAY.
I THINK WE DECIDED, WHAT WAS IT? 20 DAYS? IT'S LIKE A 20 TO 30 DAY TURN AROUND.
UM, IF THEY'RE GOING TO DECIDE TO PICK THAT PARTICULAR CASE UP, THEN THEY GOT ANOTHER 20 DAYS TO SCHEDULE WHEN THEY WANT TO START IT AND TRY TO GET A FINDING DONE.
AND THEN ANOTHER 20 DAYS, OR IS IT 20 OR 30 DAYS FROM THERE TO COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL DECISION? OKAY.
SO IT'S NOT A LOT OF HANDS THAT IN THE PROCESS AND TO NOTE ANOTHER BARRIER AS WELL, UM, WAS PART OF THAT FULLY INDEPENDENT PART WAS HUBER HEIGHTS DOES NOT HAVE ITS OWN INDEPENDENT COURT FOR US TO ISSUE ANYBODY SUBPOENA POWERS.
SO IT REALLY HAS TO HAVE THIS KIND OF INVOLVEMENT IN ORDER TO GET WHAT IS ASKED, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE ARE HAVING AN EXTENSION OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY AS COURTS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN LIKE COURT SYSTEM.
SO THAT FURTHER MADE IT DIFFICULT TO BE FULLY INDEPENDENT BECAUSE THAT ABILITY TO GRANT SUBPOENA POWERS IS GOING TO BE PRETTY MUCH, NO.
SO ARE WE SAYING THAT, WHAT ARE WE SAYING ABOUT THE SUBPOENA POWER THAT THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS FOR THIS BOARD WHERE WE LOOKING FURTHER INTO THAT? THE ISSUE IS IT'S BASED ON THE NATURE OF THE BOARD AND THE CONSTRUCT OF WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THE OUTCOMES TO BE OR THE DESIRE OR TO INFLUENCE.
UM, IF THIS, UH, COMPLAINT BOARD WAS CREATED AS AN INDEPENDENT 5 0 1 C3, THE CITY COULD NOT DELEGATE ANY, UM, SUBPOENA POWERS TO IT, PERIOD.
IF THERE WAS A WANT FOR THIS BOARD TO HAVE SUBPOENA POWER, THEN IT WOULD NEED TO STAY AS AN AFFILIATE OF THE CITY, WHICH IS HOW IT'S CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED AMONGST THE WORKING GROUP.
THE WORKING GROUP THEN HAD FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IF IT STAYED AS AN AFFILIATE TO THE CITY, SHOULD IT HAVE SUBPOENA POWER? AND BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS AMONGST THE WORKING GROUP, INITIALLY, THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT NO, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE SUBPOENA POWER.
UM, AND THAT THE IDEA WOULD BE BASED ON HOW THIS PROCESS IS BEING DISCUSSED.
AT THIS POINT, IT APPEARS THAT THE MAJORITY, THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY OR THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO MAKE THE DECISION, UH, OR TO MAKE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE ISSUES, UM, CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THESE,
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UM, CASES THAT THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.UM, AND THAT SIMPLY HAVING SUBPOENA POWER DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ANY OF THE OTHER LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT, I E THE JUDICIAL BRANCH, THE COUNTY COURTS, WOULD BE AS WILLING AND ABLE TO HELP AS THEY COULD.
IF THIS WERE A CITY COURT, SAY FOR INSTANCE, FAIRBORN HAS ITS OWN CITY COURT, KETTERING HAS ITS OWN ZIP CODE.
SO THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE DIRECT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR JUDGES AND THOSE JUDGES HAVE A DIRECT INVESTED INTEREST IN THAT ALL OF THE CODES WITHIN THOSE JURISDICTIONS ARE ENFORCED, UM, OR COULD BE HEARD BY THE COURT IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A COURT SUCH AS OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY COURT, AND WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE COURT HAS A BURDENSOME, UH, HAS A CASE, A BURDEN THAT COMES FROM MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS THAT INVOLVES A SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF CRIME BEYOND, UH, UM, BEYOND WHAT, WHAT ACTUALLY THIS WOULD RISE TO.
SO TO HAVE THE COURT GIVE DEFERENCE TO A INVESTIGATIVE BOARD'S REQUEST FOR A SUBPOENA, UH, LET ALONE, UH, I I'M SURE THAT OVER TIME, I'M SURE WITH DEVELOPING, UH, A DEVELOPING A STRONGER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COURT OVER TIME, THE COURT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT THE COURT MIGHT HAVE AN APPETITE TO DO THAT, BUT INITIALLY I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT OUR REQUEST FOR A SUBPOENA IN A, IN A COMPLAINT DRIVEN BOARD WOULD MERIT THE COURT'S ATTENTION, UH, WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PRESSING CRIMINAL CASES.
SO HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT I'M TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN, UM, DIFFERENT THAN THE PERSONNEL APPEALS FOR THAT HAS SUBPOENA POWER? WELL, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE POWER DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT YOU USE IT, AND EVEN IF YOU WERE TO USE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT COMPELS COOPERATION EFFECTIVELY.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT THE COURT LET'S SAY THAT THIS BOARD EXISTED, THE COMPLAINT BOARD EXISTS.
LET'S SAY THAT IT HAS SUBPOENA POWER.
LET'S SAY THAT WE GO TO THE COURT AND WE COURT, WOULD YOU ISSUE A SUBPOENA THAT SO-AND-SO WOULD COME BEFORE AND TESTIFY BEFORE THIS BOARD A JUDGE SAYS, OKAY, I'LL ISSUE A SUBPOENA.
AND 10 DAYS LATER, THAT PERSON DOESN'T RESPOND TO THAT SUBPOENA.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO THE COURT TO SAY, I'M HERE.
AND I AGREED TO GIVE MY TESTIMONY OR MY STATEMENT BEFORE THE BOARD.
WELL, THAT PERSON'S A NO SHOW.
MAYBE IF THE COURT IS INSULTED, WE'LL ISSUE A BENCH WARRANT FOR CONTENT.
WELL, NO, ONE'S GOING TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO ENFORCE A BENCH WARRANT ON A SUBPOENA.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE RESOURCES TO ACTIVELY ENFORCE A BENCH WARRANT.
SO AGAIN, THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE SUBPOENA POWER DOESN'T NECESSARILY COMPEL ANYONE TO COME AND TESTIFY HAS THE APPEALS BOARD HAD TO USE THEIR SUBPOENA POWER TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE PRECEDENT WITH THE PRECEDENCE WITH THAT.
I DO NOT, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
I'M NOT AWARE I'M I BELIEVE THAT IT MEANT ONE TIME IN ITS EXISTENCE, RIGHT.
BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.
IT'S MET ONE TIME IN ITS EXISTENCE.
OH, I DON'T KNOW I WAS ON IT FOR TWO YEARS AND WE MET MORE THAN ONE TIME.
I WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED IN, UM, IN KNOWING KIND OF WHAT THE PRECEDENT IS SINCE THE, THAT PERSONNEL APPEALS BOARD DOES HAVE SUBPOENA POWER.
HAVE THEY HAD TO USE THAT SUBPOENA POWER? AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT PROCESS, I GUESS BEFORE WE KIND OF JUST MAKE A, JUST TO SEE IF IT'S AN OPTION.
WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN OPTION, BUT TO SEE IF IT'S A FEASIBLE OPTION.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY AS PART OF THE WORKING GROUP HAS SAID, UM,
AND IF THERE IS SOME NEED FOR IT, THEN THE CITY CAN AMEND THE, THE INCORPORATING LEGISLATION AND PROVIDE FOR THAT SUBPOENA POWER IF IT'S NECESSARY.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE IS SAYING IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S SAYING THAT IT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED, OR IS IT AN OPTION, BUT AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE IT CAN BE USED DOESN'T MEAN IT SHOULDN'T BE USED, NEEDS TO BE USED.
I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY THE POINT WE WOULDN'T HAVE.
AND I'VE BEEN KIND OF THINKING ON THAT YOLANDA IS THAT
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ON BEHALF OF THE PERSON THAT'S BRINGING THE COMPLAINT FOR THE MOST PART, ANYONE THAT THEY NEED TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR CASE, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO COME, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO SUBPOENA THEM.SO THE ONLY OTHER PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
RIGHT? SO NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO SUBPOENA THE POLICE OFFICER TO COME.
WHEN ALL THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS PROVIDE THE WRITTEN STATEMENT ON ALREADY WITNESSED HAPPENING, NEGOTIATE, NOT NEGOTIATE, BUT IN THEIR INVESTIGATION.
SO THEIR INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION.
SO I GUESS WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT TO SAY, OKAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT IS THIS BOARD TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, TRYING TO FIND OUT, DID SOMETHING HAPPEN? DID SOMETHING GO WRONG SO THAT WE CAN DO A RECOMMENDATION TO GET IT DONE? SO IT'S NOT NO, UH, I GUESS JAIL TIME OR, YOU KNOW, NOTHING JUDICIAL WAS GOING TO HAPPEN FROM THIS.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT COME OUT OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY TO GO THROUGH THIS SUBPOENA PROCESS, BECAUSE IF I'M BRINGING THE CASE, I'M HOPING EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO HELP ME IS CALMER.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE SUBPOENAED YOU TO COME HELP ME AND THEY CAN BRING ANYONE.
YOU BRING ANYONE, YOU KNOW, SAM BEFORE THIS BOARD, RIGHT.
AND THE BOARD AND THE BOARD CAN ASK TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ME, THE COMPLAINANT DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS BOARD IS GOING TO BE MADE UP OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, AN ATTORNEY, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY FROM THE NAACP.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY FROM THIS, UH, BOARD THAT'S ON THERE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY FROM, UH, THE CITY REPRESENTATION.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FAST VARIETY OF BRAINS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE THAT ARE, MAY THINK OUTSIDE OF THE ACTUAL COMPLAINTANT THEMSELVES, AND STILL BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO SO-AND-SO SPONSOR SO-AND-SO TO HELP US WITH OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS CASE.
SO I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY WE REALLY NEED THE SUBPOENA POWER AT THIS TIME, IF, IF IT DOES, I THINK MAYBE WE COULD TRY TO REVISIT THAT, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED THAT WITH THE BRAINS THAT ARE GONNA BE ON THAT BOARD.
WHAT IS THE, UM, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT A TIMELINE.
I KNOW WE, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING, BUT SUPPORT A TIMELINE FOR US.
I THINK WE GOT A GOOD FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.
UM, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF SKETCHED IT OUT.
THE FUNNY THING IS WE WANT TO DO A FLOW CHART RIGHT ON, UH, AT OUR, AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET A NICE LITTLE FLOW CHART THAT WE CAN PUT UP ON THE WALL THAT YOUR HUSBAND'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
SO YOU LET HIM KNOW HE'S GOT THE FLOW CHART.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET THAT FLOW CHART DONE.
ONCE WE GET THAT DONE, I THINK WE GOT A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF AT LEAST A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE.
AND THEN NOW, YOU KNOW, BRIAN, I THINK CAN NOW BEGIN TO WORK HIS MAGIC TO TRY TO GET IT PUSHED AND GET IT APPROVED.
SO WHERE, WHERE I WOULD SEE THIS GOING NEXT IS IN ADDITION FORMS BROUGHT, UH, BROUGHT TOGETHER SO WE CAN KIND OF, UH, MOCK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? HOW WOULD THE PAPER FLOW, UH, ONCE WE HAVE THAT EXERCISE, WHICH WILL BE THAT NEXT MEETING AND ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO, UH, ASSUMING EVERYBODY IN THE WORKING GROUP IS OKAY WITH HOW THAT LOOKS.
UH, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO REACH OUT TO THE LAW DIRECTOR AND VERIFY THROUGH THEIR OFFICE, HEY, CONCEPTUALLY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
THESE ARE HOW THINGS ARE, ARE SHAPING UP.
UH, ONCE WE GET THAT DONE, WE NEED TO CIRCLE BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, CONCEPTUALLY, UH, SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM, I E TONY ROGERS.
SO, AND, UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE ISN'T GOING TO BE, ISN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE FOR VOLUME OR WORKLOAD OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.
WE DO NEED TO HAVE, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THAT.
UM, AND SO WE'LL NEED TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
AND THEN ONCE WE DO THAT, I THINK WE COME BACK BEFORE THIS GROUP, UH, WALK THROUGH HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS WITH YOU, AND THEN ASSUMING EVERYBODY IS OKAY WITH HOW THAT WORKS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT TO COUNCIL.
THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE COMMISSIONS PRESENT ONE OF THE COMMISSIONS PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER WITH WORKING WITH STAFF AND LIKE COUNCIL TO, UH, TO ADOPT THAT WE'VE KIND OF CHECKED THOSE BOXES.
SO, UH, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THIS.
UH, WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE AT LEAST BEFORE COUNCIL BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, AND THEN A FUNCTIONAL BOARD, IF YOU WILL, PROBABLY
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FIRST QUARTER OF 2023.THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. PARKINSON, MR. RICHARDSON.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK I'VE ASKED A THOUSAND.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE EDUCATION FORUM.
WELL, MADAM CHAIR, I JUST HAVE TO PREPARE UPDATE, BECAUSE I'M JUST NOW SEEING THIS.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE REFORM COMMITTEE AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE TO COME TOGETHER, TO DO A, WE'LL SAY EDUCATION TO THE YOUTH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, AS FAR AS POLICING.
SO I'LL HAVE TO TALK TO MR. STEVENS ABOUT THAT.
AND FROM THERE, WE CAN DO A TASK ROUTE MEETING AS TO WHETHER WE STILL WANT TO DO THIS FOR THIS YEAR OR MOVING TO 2023.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN ACTIVITY NEXT MONTH, I BELIEVE FOR ADVOCACY FOR BREAST CANCER MONTH AND THEN SOMETHING GOING ON IN NOVEMBER PRETENDING TO THE DEED.
SO I WOULD PREFER TO TALK TO MR. STEVENS TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING EARLY IN 20, 23, POSSIBLY.
I, UM, WE DID, THIS IS, WE WERE ABLE TO GO TO THE SCHOOL FOR WHO WAS THERE, WHO WAS TO GIVE A REPORT ON THIS FIREARM.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, LIKE GOING TO THE SCHOOL, TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, TO THE TEACHERS EVEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO OTHERS LIKE TO SHARE, I KNOW I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.
YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING YES.
ABOUT, UH, THIS, UH, THE I'LL SHARE.
SO, UM, RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED, THE HIGH SCHOOL HAD ANY EVENT YOU PROBABLY CAN TALK ABOUT TO DOCTOR AGAINST, BUT THE HIGH SCHOOL HAD AN EVENT, UH, OPENING FOR THE TEACHERS.
SO THEY HAD KIND OF A FAIR TYPE THINGS SET UP WHERE THEY HAD BOOTHS SET UP AND THEY HAD FOOD TRUCKS AND THEY INVITED US TO COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
SO WE HAD A TABLE, WE HAD A BOOTH SET UP, WE HANDED OUT INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMMISSION.
UM, AND KAYLA STEPHENS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED A, UM, A FLYER WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMMISSION.
AND I'M GOING TO SEND THOSE TO YOU ELECTRONICALLY.
SO YOU ALL HAVE THEM AND I'LL BRING SOME COPIES ALSO TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, BUT WE HANDED OUT THOSE FIRES AND JUST HAD CONVERSATIONS TO TELL THE TEACHERS ABOUT, ABOUT THE COMMISSION.
UM, WE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE PRINCIPAL AND SHARED WITH HIM THE, UM, THAT WE DO ANTICIPATE DOING, UH, THE FORUM WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE HIGH SCHOOL.
HE WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH THE COMMISSION.
SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS ON LINES OF THAT.
SO THEY'RE READY FOR OUR, OUR FORUM.
WHENEVER WE DECIDE TO DO IT, THEY'RE READY TO WORK WITH US.
I WILL FOLLOW UP AS MENTIONED MR. STEVENS, AND AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU.
DEI COLLABORATIVE, MS. SEMILLON.
SO THE COLLABORATIVE OR MEETING REVIEW IS SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 6TH, AT SIX O'CLOCK.
THAT WILL BRING TOGETHER ALL OF THE LOCAL THAT MY MOUTH WAS LOUD ENOUGH, BUT SO THIS, THE DEI COLLABORATIVE IS SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 6TH, SIX O'CLOCK, UM, THAT WILL BRING TOGETHER ALL OF THE LOCAL DEI INITIATIVES IN THE AREA, UH, FAIRBORN, BELLBROOK, SPRINGBORO, ALL OF THE LOCAL SURROUNDING SUBURBS AND CITIES THAT HAVE DEI INITIATIVES.
UM, WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE IS WHETHER, BECAUSE WE HAD KIND OF SAID BEFORE, WE MIGHT DO AN ICE CREAM SOCIAL, OR IF WE WANT TO DO A CARRY IN, OR IF WE WANT TO JUST DO LIKE A DESSERT, BRING A DESSERT SORT OF THING.
THE WHOLE GOAL IS FOR PEOPLE TO UPDATE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEIR INITIATIVE.
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES YOU MAY BE HAVING, UM, WHAT'S GOING WELL, WHAT'S NOT GOING WELL.
WHAT UPCOMING EVENTS YOU HAVE INTO REALLY JUST
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STAY CONNECTED AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.SO DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR IDEAS ABOUT WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IN TERMS OF MAYBE AN ICE CREAM SOCIAL FOR YOUR DESSERT? I THOUGHT IT WAS THE CARIBBEAN.
LIKE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, INITIALLY IT WAS, WE DID THE ENTREE AND EVERYBODY ELSE PROPPED THE SIDES.
I KNOW WE BROUGHT THAT UP, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT HAS TO GO.
NO, IT DOES NOT GO LIKE THAT AT ALL.
IT CAN BE WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO BE SINCE WE'RE HOSTING IT.
WELL, AND THE THING IS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAD SAID.
IT CAN BE AT TJ CHUMPS IN THEIR COMMUNITY ROOM.
IT CAN BE WHEREVER WE WANT IT TO BE.
DO THEY USUALLY, YOU SAID THEY PROVIDE, NORMALLY WHOEVER IS HOSTING WHAT SET UP EVERYTHING.
LIKE THE ONE I WENT TO, IT WAS IN THE PARK.
YOU KNOW, SUMMARY EVENTS ARE EASY.
CAUSE YOU CAN DO THEM IN THE PARK.
YOU CAN COOK OUT AND EVERYBODY BRING ASIDE, BUT IN NOVEMBER IT MAY BE COLD.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE MAY WANT TO HAVE IT INDOORS.
AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD WE BE EXPECTING? SO THE EVENT THAT WE HAD THE LAST TIME WE HAD ABOUT 20, 25 PEOPLE THERE AND EVERYBODY WAS NOT THERE.
SO IF EVERYBODY'S THERE, IT COULD, I MEAN, IT COULD EASILY BE 40, 50 PEOPLE.
WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE AGREE TO.
I MEAN, WHEN WE GET CLOSE TO NOTHING, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT.
WE TALKED ABOUT FUNDING FOR THIS.
SO WE ORIGINALLY DID THIS UNDER ADVOCACY.
SO IT WOULD COME UNDER OUR BUDGET.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT, STILL GOT SOME MONEY LEFT UNDER ADVOCACY.
SO WE JUST NEED TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING BIG IT'S HOLIDAY TIME, DO WE WANT TO DO MORE OF A CARIBBEAN OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE IT SOMETHING SIMPLE? LIKE BRING A DESSERT, YOU KNOW, MEET AND GREET WINE AND CHEESE.
WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO BE? I WOULD SAY, YEAH.
UM, I MEAN, IT'S STOOD ON THE PANDEMIC.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE CURIOUS, CARRY OUTS ARE GOOD WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE A STORE FURNISH THINGS, THE STORE CAN PREPARE THE RESTAURANT AND PREPARE KIND OF LIKE WHAT BYRON WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GET STUCK ON THAT.
WE CAN JUST SAY, WE WANT TO DO DESSERTS AND WE CAN JUST CALL IT.
I MEAN, IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO FOOD, I CAN SOME, YOU KNOW, HOMEMADE, FRENCH IT'S WHATEVER.
BUT I DO WANT TO GET NOTICED SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE AND ALL OF THAT.
SO, CAUSE I MEAN IT'S SEPTEMBER.
SO IT'S SIX O'CLOCK WHAT'S THE END TIME OR DO WE HAVE AN ENDING TIME? IT NORMALLY IS LIKE SIX TO EIGHT.
SO NOBODY HAS TO STAY FOR TWO HOURS, RIGHT? FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, AS FAR AS REFRESHMENTS, IT DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T BE NOTHING TOO ELABORATE, YOU KNOW, NOTHING HEAVY, BUT I AGREE WITH THE PANDEMIC, WE STILL WANT TO BE PRECAUTIOUS.
SO WHETHER WE HAVE IT LIKE A TJ CHUMPS, WHERE EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN FOOD OR THE CAREY, YOU KNOW, OUT OPTION.
SO, SO YOU'D SAY TOMS WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE THEM PROVIDE A COUPLE APPETIZERS FOR US AND THEN WE COULD JUST DO IT THERE IN THEIR COMMUNITY ROOM AND MAYBE, MAYBE WILLING TO DONATE TO SOME ITEMS. SO THEY WOULD, WE WOULD
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DO THE APPETIZERS AND PEOPLE CAN ORDER IF THEY WANT ON THEIR OWN.DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A PLAN? EVERYBODY SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN TO MOVE.
DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? AND SO THE BUDGET, WE WOULD NEED TO VOTE ON THAT OR WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT NOW.
UH, THE BUDGET, WELL, YOU PROBABLY NOT PREPARED FOR THAT.
ARE YOU? WELL, I KNOW WE HAVE 500 AND ADVOCACY, UM, BUT IF WE KNOW WHAT THE COMMISSION IS WILLING TO APPROVE, THEN I CAN, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATE FROM THERE WITH TJ CHOPS OR EVEN WITH SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS THAT MAY WANT TO HELP THE BUDGET.
I HAVE NO IDEA BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN EVEN PROVIDE.
I MEAN, WHAT THEY PROVIDE IN THE COST OF THINGS, BUT THERE IS A THREE TO 400, 300 WOULD BE A GOOD STARTING POINT.
AND THEN IF IT'S LESS THAN THREE, YOU CAN ALSO BRING, LET ME, LET ME MAKE SURE.
I KNOW WE WERE ABLE TO BRING A CAKE IN FOR AN EVENT THAT I HAD THERE.
UM, WELL LET ME SEE IF YOU'RE WILLING.
IF THEY'RE ABLE TO ALLOW YOU TO BRING THINGS IN STILL, UM, YOU CAN BRING A CAKE, YOU CAN'T BRING A CAKE.
I DO KNOW THAT YOU CAN, I THINK YOU CAN BREAK A CAGE BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUR 50TH THERE.
WE'RE ALL, EXCEPT FOR ONE OF US OVER ONE NOW, EXCEPT FOR TWO OF US, THREE OF US, I'M ALMOST THERE PUT ME IN THAT GROUP.
SO I'LL CHECK WITH TJ CHUMPS AND SEE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING IS MAKING SURE THE ROOM IS AVAILABLE WHEN THEN IF YOU'VE SOME, SOME SORT OF A BUDGET, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO OFFER.
UM, I'D RATHER DO IT THAT WAY.
AND THEN, WELL, NOVEMBER WOULD BE A MONTH OUT.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN WE'D HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO OUR OCTOBER MEETING.
SO, UM, THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS MEETING IS FROM THE COLLABORATION'S THE TAKE AWAY IS BASICALLY TO GET US AS A DEI TO COMMUNITY, TO WORK TOGETHER, TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING WELL, WHAT'S NOT GOING WELL AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT IT.
LIKE SUGAR CREEK CARES HAS A MEETING TONIGHT, WHICH I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE GONE TO, BUT WE HAD OUR MEETINGS.
SO EVEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS NOT PLANNING MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, ON THE SAME NIGHT SO THAT WE CAN ATTEND EACH OTHER'S MEETINGS AND SUPPORT.
SO YEAH, IF YOU CAN GET THROUGH TJ JUMPS, FIND OUT THAT IS AVAILABLE.
AND THEN IF IT'S NOT COME HAVE A BACKUP, MAYBE THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THEN STILL DO SOME SORT OF A CATERING AND THERE'S PROBABLY A RESTAURANT THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO DONATE SOMETHING TO US ALSO, I WOULD THINK.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT LESS SUMMER? I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR DAVE.
DOES THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER HAVE SPACE? WHERE DO YOU ALL, DO YOU ALL HAVE A BUILDING? NO, YOU DON'T.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY SPACES IN THE CITY THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE? IF SO, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT LATER? YOU DON'T HAVE TO, ANYTHING REALLY BIG IS ANYTHING THAT WE DO LARGE.
WE USUALLY DO THE HIGH SCHOOL CAFETERIA.
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NORMALLY WHEN WE DO OUR BACHELOR, WHAT CAN YOU CHECK WITH YOUR CONNECTIONS? I KNOW YOU'RE WELCOME ACTED, SO, OKAY.CAN I JUST INTERJECT ONE THING ALSO? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PARLIAMENTARY, BUT NORMALLY THAT HAS TO DO ANYTHING MONETARY.
NORMALLY THAT IS A PHONE IN YOUR HAND, WHATEVER YOU'RE SPENDING MONEY, JUST, I'M NOT AN ART PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.
IF YOU GO BY ROBERT'S RULES, BORDERS, IF THERE'S ANYTHING MONETARY THAT HAS TO BE BROUGHT AROUND.
SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THAT IN OUR NEXT MEETING, WHEN IT'S, WHEN WE HAVE A LINE ITEM KIND OF ITEMIZED WHAT THE ANTICIPATED COST IS, UH, MS. SOLOMON WILL BRING THAT FORWARD AND WE'LL VOTE ON IT THEN.
SO MADAM CHAIR, IF WE COULD VOTE ON EIGHT AND AMOUNT, EVEN IF I HAVE TO AMEND THAT AMOUNT AT OUR NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE IF THIS HAS TO GO TO COUNTY, WE HAVE TO GET THAT APPROVED.
WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY DELAY BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO, WE DO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.
IF WE COULD VOTE ON IT TONIGHT AND I HAVE TO AMEND IT, AT LEAST IT CAN GO TO COUNCIL, BUDGET CAN BE RELEASED AND ALL OF THAT.
SO WE DON'T GET HELD UP, YOU KNOW, IN OCTOBER TRYING TO VOTE ON A BUDGET AND THEN HAVE TO GET IT TO A MEETING AND GET THEM TO APPROVE IT.
AND ALL OF THAT, THE POINT DOES THAT HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL TO BE APPROVED FOR THAT.
UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE, SO YOU HAVE, UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH REMAINS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE ALLOCATED FOR YOU.
I BELIEVE IT WAS $15,000 IN BASIC OPERATIONAL EXPENSES WITHIN THE BUDGET.
AND THEN THERE'S FUNDS AVAILABLE, UH, STILL OF THAT 15,000.
SO, UM, THERE IS SUFFICIENT REVENUES AVAILABLE.
THERE ARE ALSO OTHER ACCOUNTS WITHIN YOUR GROUP OF FUNDS.
SO WE HAVE OTHER RESOURCES AVAILABLE IF WE NEED THEM, UM, TO HOST THIS EVENT OR ANY OTHER.
SO, UM, AT THIS POINT I WOULD SAY, UM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A HEALTHY CONVERSATION WITH TJ CHUMPS FOR SOMETHING OF A VALUE OF LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UH, AND ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, YOU CAN COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY TO KATIE OR I, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH FINANCE AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT FINAL BUDGET AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT'LL BE FUNDED WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND GOT AN OCTOBER.
SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SEAMLESSLY THROUGH THAT.
SO, SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT HAS TO GO TO POUNCE OR ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A LOT OF BIGGER.
UM, AND I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
SO TIMELINE WISE THAT'S FEASIBLE.
IF WE WANT TO, I MEAN, ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OR DO WE, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T VOTE ON IT.
UM, IF WE WANT TO WAIT WE CAN WAIT, BUT IT, BRIAN SAID, WE JUST NEED TO SEND AN EMAIL ON THAT WITH THAT.
I THINK SO I WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMETHING SET, YOU KNOW, AND ITEMIZED, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO, CAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND THEN WE VOTE ON THAT AND THEN WE'RE DONE WITH IT.
OUT READ SO WE DON'T HAVE COMMITTEES ANYMORE.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE ITEMS, WE HAVE FOCAL AREAS.
WE STILL HAVE THE SAME FOCAL AREAS.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE COMMITTEES.
I SUPPOSE WE'LL USE IT OUTREACH.
UM, I DUNNO, I WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND I KNOW WE HAVE PLANNED AN EVENT FOR THE FALL.
WE WERE WAITING FOR THE, UM, THE KIDS GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND THEN CONTACT THEM ABOUT CURRICULUM AND WHAT BEST WAY TO FIT IN ACTIVITY IN THERE FOR THE FALL.
SO, UM, HAVING MET, NOT DONE THAT YET, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH SOME STUFF IN MY HEAD.
I KNOW WE HAD THE, UM, TIC TOK CHALLENGE THAT WE, UH, I THINK WE PURCHASED TWO THINGS FOR, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY WERE, UH, AMAZON ECHO DOT, WHATEVER THAT WAS.
AND THEN THERE WAS SOME FUNDS BUDGETED FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO WE CAN, UM, WELL, I'LL, UM, START THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, MATT SOMETIME.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY THIS WEEK, BUT NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET ON.
DO WE NEED ANY SORT OF WORKING GROUP FOR A FALL ACTIVITY FOR, YEAH.
GENE NEEDS TO BE ON THAT WORKING GROUP.
UM, I'M JUST, I'M JUST USED TO WORKING WITH PEOPLE, JUST GOING TO GET STUFF DONE RIGHT TO
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SHAPE.SO YEAH, WE'LL, UM, I'LL REACH OUT TO THE FOLKS AT THE, UM, IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WE'LL COME UP WITH A PROJECT.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU KNOW, HOW WILL BE ON THE WORKING GROUP.
I'LL BE ON THE EDUCATION ALSO.
SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.
SO ORIGINALLY WE DID HAVE THE PINK AND PEARLS, UM, EVENTS SCHEDULED.
UM, I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE, UM, DELAY THIS EVENT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE NOT HAD A, WE HAVE NOT HAD A TAX TASK MEETING, UM, FOR THIS.
AND I DO FEEL LIKE BASED ON SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO, THIS IS A PROJECT OR AN INITIATIVE THAT WE CAN DO IN 2023.
WE ALL, WE HAVE A FALL FESTIVAL THAT THE CITY IS HAVING ON THE SAME DAY THAT THE MAKE A DIFFERENCE OR MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY, OCTOBER 22ND, THERE'S A CITY FALL FESTIVAL.
UM, AND WE'VE REALLY GOT TO GET BETTER ABOUT NOT HAVING EVENTS IN THE CITY ON THE SAME DAY, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO PICK WHAT EVENT THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO.
SO, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE, WE CAN STILL DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS TALKING TO YOLANDA ABOUT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE EVER SEEN CANCER, CHEMO PACKS.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE? NO, BASICALLY IT'S A PACK THAT HAS THINGS LIKE FUZZY SOCKS.
IT'S GOT BLISTEX, A WORD PUZZLE, CROSSWORD PUZZLE, UM, THINGS THAT SOMEBODY COULD DO IF THEY WERE AT A CHEMO THERAPY TREATMENT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S FIVE OR SIX ITEMS IN A PACK, MAYBE SOME LOST HINGES, SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE THEM IN THE PACK AND IT'S MEANINGFUL AND IT HELPS THEM GET THROUGH THEIR CHEMOTHERAPY APPOINTMENT.
WE COULD STILL DONATE THAT TO PINK RIBBON GIRLS, UM, ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMISSION AND THAT SOMETHING MEANINGFUL THAT WE COULD DO AND STILL HAVE SOMETHING FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, AND WE'RE STILL MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT TIE, TYING THAT BACK TO THE LEGISLATION, UM, COMMISSION.
AND I TALKED IN JUNE, I GAVE YOU ALL SOME STATISTICS ABOUT, UM, AFRICAN-AMERICAN, UH AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND YOU KNOW, HOW BREAST CANCER IMPACTS THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND MINORITY COMMUNITIES.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO TIE IT BACK TO OUR LEGISLATION, BUT WE KNOW THAT WOMEN AND MEN ARE BOTH IMPACTED BY BREAST CANCER, BUT WE WANT TO JUST BE MAKING A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE HEALTH IS AN INITIATIVE OF OUR ADVOCACY COMMITTEE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON HEALTH AND IT IS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.
SO IT'S A GREAT TIME TO GET BACK NEXT YEAR WITH A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED, MORE VOLUNTEERS.
UM, WE CAN DO A MORE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES THAT WE WANT TO DO.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE TYPE OF EVENT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE IN A MONTH.
SO THE FALL FESTIVAL, OR WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMEHOW? SO JOSH HAD MENTIONED THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH, UM, PARKS AND RIPE ON THE FILE FESTIVAL.
I WAS THINKING OF A WAY THAT WE COULD TIE SOMETHING, MAKE A DIFFERENCE INTO THE FALL FESTIVAL OR HOW WE COULD TIE THIS BREAST CANCER, MAKE IT A DONATION DRIVE FOR THOSE PACKS, MAKE A DONATION DRIVE FOR THE PACK.
LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE FALL FEST, LIKE DO A DONATION DRIVE TO BRING THE FUZZY SOCKS AND THE BOOKS AND THE STUFF TO MAKE THE KIDS AND BRING IT BACK TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY.
THAT'S THE WAY WE COULD DO THAT.
AND THEN WE CAN STOP THEM AND DELIVER THEM AFTER MAYBE A DIFFERENT STUFF.
THAT'S A GREAT, I MEAN, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
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MAKE, UM, SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PARTNERING WITH PARKS AND REC WITH THE FALL FEST, IF WE WERE THERE FOR LIKE A, MAKE A DIFFERENT STATE CAPACITY AT FALL FEST AND, AND ADVERTISE IT FOR A DONATION DRIVE AND HAVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DROP OFF THE FUZZY SOCKS AND THE THOSE STUFF TO MAKE THE KIDS, AND THEN AS PART FOR MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY ON THAT DAY, AND THEN AFTERWARDS, WE COULD COMPILE THE KIDS AND DROP THEM OFF AND THAT WOULD BE MEANINGFUL, BUT THAT MEANS WE JUST HAVE TO GET THEM ON BOARD WITH HELPING US ADVERTISE THAT DONATION DRIVE.I KNOW I CAN, I CAN'T HELP WITH THAT, BUT YEAH, I, I THINK THAT WAY WE STILL, YOU KNOW, CAN HONOR MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY IN BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.
AND THE KIDS ARE SUPER EASY TO PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THEM, WE USE LITTLE GIFT BAGS, STUFFED EVERYTHING INSIDE, PUT SOME AFFIRMATIONS AND SOME OTHER, UM, LIKE PICTURES THAT THEY COULD LOOK AT.
UM, ANY THOUGHTS, COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO PUT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE TO DELAY THE PINK OUT AND PEARLS TO 2023 SECOND.
AND SECOND, WE WILL POSTPONE THE PINK AND PEARLS DAY UNTIL 2023.
AND IN REGARDS TO THE CANCER CHEMO PACKS AND, UH, DOING A DRIVE FOR ITEMS FOR THAT, OR THERE ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? JUST ONE QUESTION WE'VE MENTIONED DOING THAT DURING A FALL FESTIVAL AND WE COMMITTED TO DOING THE FIRST OF ALL YET.
SO THAT THE PACKS MIGHT BE A LITTLE PREMATURE TO HAND OUT A DATE EVENT THAT WE'VE NOT YET DECIDED THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FALL FESTIVAL.
AND IF WE ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN WHAT CAPACITY? WELL, I THOUGHT WE WERE COLLECTING THE ITEMS. YEAH.
WE'RE JUST COLLECTING ITEMS AT THE FALL FESTIVAL.
WE'LL DO THE PACKS AT A LATER TIME.
WE'VE PUT THEM TOGETHER AT A LATER TIME.
SO AT THE FESTIVAL, WE'RE JUST SETTING UP A TABLE OR BOOTH OR WHATEVER TO COLLECT ITEMS. YES.
AND GIVE OUT, WE CAN GIVE OUT INFORMATION AWESOME COLLECT ITEMS, PUBLICIZE IT AS PART OF THE FALL FAST.
HOPEFULLY THEY'RE OPEN TO THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD PUT THE KIDS TOGETHER AFTER, AND IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE, THEN WE COULD PURCHASE THOSE ITEMS, BUT THE KIDS TOGETHER, AND WE CAN TOTALLY STILL CALL IT A PINK OUT IN PROSE DONATION.
WE CAN STILL PUT ON OUR PEARLS.
AND I MEAN, THE MEN DON'T HAVE TO, OBVIOUSLY I HEAR FRANK, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN STILL TOTALLY WEAR PINK AND PEARLS, YOU KNOW, AND IT CAN BE PINK OUT, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST THE FOCUS.
THE FOCUS WILL BE ON THE DRIVE, COLLECTING THE ITEMS. SO, AND IT'S NEEDED.
UM, I'M GONNA SAY THIS REAL QUICK, MY DAUGHTER HAS TO GO TO THE CANCER CENTER TO GET HER ID INFUSIONS AND EVERY TIME WE'RE THERE, THE LADIES ARE ASKING FOR WATER, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A CHAPSTICK, THEY'RE ASKING FOR WARM BLANKETS, SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, SEARCH PUZZLES.
SO DON'T GO, THEY'RE ALWAYS ASKING FOR SOMETHING.
CAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE THERE FOR HOURS GETTING THEIR TREATMENT SO IT'S NECESSARY.
DO WHAT DO WE NEED FOR THAT? WE NEED, UM, A GROUP TO WORK ON THAT WORK GROUP WHO WAS PART OF THAT? WHEN I WENT TO BUY ROOMS DOWN THERE, I THINK I HAD AT THE LAST MEETING OR PRIOR, I DID NO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT.
SO YOU GOT THE LIP, YOU GOT THE NAME.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PARTICIPATING
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IN THE FALL FESTIVAL AND COLLECTING ITEMS OR DONATION.WE WILL HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHO WILL BE DONATED TO OR DONATION.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? MADAM CHAIR I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, THAT THE HOOPER HEIGHTS, CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION PARTNER WITH PARKS AND REC, UH, FOR THE FALL FESTIVAL TO COLLECT DONATIONS FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, IS THERE A SECOND BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND THAT WE WILL PARTNER WITH PARKS AND REC FOR THE FALL FESTIVAL AND COLLECT ITEMS TO DONATE FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS WEEK.
ANY OPPOSITION, RIGHT? IT'S PAST OCTOBER 22ND.
SO WE HAVE A WORK GROUP SET FOR THAT.
COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION UPDATES.
I SENT OUT A LIST OF, I MET WITH KATIE AND TONY YESTERDAY TO GO OVER THE LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TODAY TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, AND I EMAILED THOSE OUT TO EVERYONE, BUT WE BASICALLY WENT LINE BY LINE OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND WE WORKED, WORKED THROUGH THOSE.
UM, DID EVERYONE GET THAT EMAIL? OKAY.
YOU PROBABLY HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST KIND OF GIVE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM IT.
UM, MOST OF THE THINGS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS ON THINGS.
SO IN TERMS OF THE WEBSITE, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET, THE CITY IS WORKING ON THE WEBSITE AND OBTAINING, UM, PICTURES.
THEY'VE HIRED A PHOTOGRAPHER TO GO OUT AND TAKE PICTURES TO INCORPORATE INTO THE WEBSITE.
AND THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING PROJECT.
UM, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE WELL, THAT WILL BE DONE BY NEXT YEAR, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON IN TERMS OF GRANTS.
THAT WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS LISTED.
UM, THE CITY WILL HELP WITH CONTENT FOR WRITING, FOR GRANTS.
IF WE SEE ANYTHING THAT COMES UP, BUT WE DO NEED TO GIVE THEM AT LEAST SIX WEEKS, LATE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND IF WE FIND A GRANT WE WANT TO SUBMIT FOR, WE CAN'T JUST SUBMIT FOR IT.
IT HAS TO COME FROM THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM THE CITY, THE DIVERSITY TRAINING, UH, THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING FACE-TO-FACE DIVERSITY TRAINING USING THE PREMIER HEALTH PREMIER HEALTH TO DO THE TRAINING.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE DIVERSITY TRAINING AND HARASSMENT TRAINING.
IT WILL LIKELY BE A TWO HOUR TRAINING.
UM, THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT AND THAT WILL BE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES AND WILL ALSO BE OFFERED TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
AND OF COURSE, OPEN TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, IT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR EMPLOYEES, BUT OF COURSE IT CANNOT BE REQUIRED FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OR CITY COUNCIL FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.
UM, THE TRAINING WILL BE RECORDED.
SO ALL NEW EMPLOYEES WILL RECEIVE THE TRAINING WILL BE ONGOING IN YOUR, FOR EVERYONE.
LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WAS ANOTHER ONE, UM, THAT HAS NOT REALLY BEEN DISCUSSED.
THERE MAY BE SOME LEGAL IMPACT TO THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE LEFT THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER DO NOT NEED APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A BLACK BUSINESS.
THE THOUGHT WAS TO PARTNER WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I THINK THAT CAME UP IN ANOTHER MEETING TO PARTNER WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
MARK BRUNS IS NO LONGER THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
WAS THAT A SIGN OF CYNTHIA BOYD? WHO IS THE, WHAT IS SHE THE BOARD PRESIDENT? YOU KNOW, CYNTHIA BOYD.
I THINK SHE'S THE BOARD PRESIDENT.
SO SHE'S STANDING IN FOR MARK BRUNS RIGHT NOW.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO HER
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IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN WORKING THE ADOPT BLACK BUSINESS AND PARTNERING WITH THE CHAMBER TO DO THAT.UM, MY ONLY CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS THAT USUALLY THE CHAMBER ONLY PARTNERS OR HELPS THOSE WHO ARE CHAMBER MEMBERS, WHICH CAN POSE A SLIGHT ISSUE, UM, FOR MINORITY BUSINESSES.
LET'S SEE IF WE WANT TO BRING THE ADOPTED BLACK BUSINESS TO CITY COUNCIL.
THEN THEY ASK THAT WE DO PUT TOGETHER A FORMAL PROPOSAL FOR THAT, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT IT WOULD ENTAIL, EVERYTHING FROM A TO Z.
IF WE STILL WANT TO SUBMIT THAT TO CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, WE DISCUSSED THE RFQ AND THE FACT THAT IT STILL NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE M V P R C AGAIN, BASED OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH I WAS TOTALLY CONFUSED.
TONY AND I TALKED THROUGH THAT AND I SAID, I COULD SWEAR THAT WE LAUGHED, NOT SWEAR, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE LAUGHED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT PENDING THE UPDATES TO ANY GRAMMAR ISSUES OR SPELLING.
HOWEVER, THAT WAS NOT THE UNDERSTANDING.
THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE STILL GOING TO CONNECT WITH MVP RC AGAIN, TO REVIEW THE CONTENT.
IS THAT WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY AT? OR WHERE ARE WE AT IN THAT'S? THAT IS WHERE IT SAYS CURRENTLY MVP, RC, MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.
SAMANTHA, YOU SAID CURRENTLY IS WITH THEM.
HOW LONG HAS, WELL, IT'S NOT WITH THEM.
SO THE UNDERSTANDING FROM THAT FROM OUR AUGUST MEETING WAS WE'D MAKE THE CORRECTIONS, RIGHT? THE GRAMMATICAL CORRECTIONS.
SO THAT CAME TO US, WE MADE THE GRAMMATICAL CORRECTIONS.
I HAD, I DID HAVE ONE CHANGE TO IT, WHICH SHE'S GOOD WITH.
AND THE CHANGE THAT I MADE WAS TO TAKE OUT THE LANGUAGE AROUND THE INSURANCE AND BONDING.
UH, YEAH, THE CHANGE WAS NOT THAT, UM, THEY NEEDED TO PROVIDE, UH, THE BONDING AND INSURANCE AT THE TIME OF THE RF ACUTE, BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST RESPONDING WITH QUALIFICATIONS.
SO THE AMENDMENT IS TO SAY THAT AT THE, SHOULD THEY BE AWARDED THE CONTRACT, THEY WILL NEED TO PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE BONDING OR INSURANCE IS WHAT THE CHANGE WAS.
SO, YEAH, SO THAT IS THE ONLY CONTENT CHANGE THAT WAS MADE TO THE DOCUMENT.
SO NOW IT SITS WITH US BACK TO, WE NEED TO TALK TO THE MVP RC AND Y'ALL KNOW I WAS ADAMANT ABOUT NOT DOING THAT BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF GOING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT, BUT I WILL DO IT AGAIN SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD.
SO I WILL REACH OUT TO THE MVP RC AND TALK THROUGH THOSE COMMENTS AND THEN MAKE THE CHANGES AS NECESSARY.
DO WE WANT THAT TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION? MADAM CHAIR? YES.
SINCE MS. BERGE OFFERED TO, TO HAVE US, UM, SEND IT BACK, UM, WOULD THERE BE A REASON WHY YOU COULDN'T ALLOW HER TO TAKE IT BACK AND TO FINALIZE ANY CHANGES AS SHE SEES FIT? WHAT DO WE WANT THAT? WELL, I MEAN, SHE, SHE WANTED IT TO GO BACK, SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, LET HER TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT.
SO AT LEAST BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
AND I WOULD SAY WHEN SHE DOES SEND IT, THIS IS MY SUGGESTION THAT WE'RE COURTESY COPY WHAT SHE SAID OR FOR DOCUMENTATION PURPOSES AND WHAT, UM, MS. BERGERSEN.
SO ARE YOU ASKING HER TO MAKE CHANGES OR MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON CHANGES? NO.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR HER TO TAKE THE LEAD ON IT.
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AT THE LAST MEETING WE WERE AT, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT FORWARD PENDING GRAMMATICAL SPELLING ERRORS, ONCE THAT WAS FIXED, WHICH WE DID, THAT IT WAS MOVING FORWARD.SO SINCE SHE STILL HAS SOME ISSUES WITH THE DOCUMENT, IT'S ALREADY GONE TO MV RPC ONCE BEFORE, UH, MICHAEL MICHAEL ELEY.
SO SINCE SHE WANTS IT TO GO BACK, I WOULD JUST ALLOW HER TO TAKE THE, TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT.
SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO SPEND ANY ADDITIONAL TIME ON.
UM, I WOULD WANT TO REVIEW IT THOUGH.
UM, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING ALL THE CHANGES.
I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING FOR HER TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT I'M SAYING ALLOW HER AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO TAKE THE DOCUMENT WHICH WE PUT TOGETHER, WE USED OUR TIME ENERGY EFFORT TO PUT TOGETHER, ALLOW HER TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND TAKE IT BACK TO MV RPC SINCE SHE'S GOT AN AFFILIATION THERE AND THEN TO BRING IT BACK TO US WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MVP, RC.
SO THEY'D GIVEN US RECOMMENDATIONS VIA EMAIL THROUGH MS. BIRCH, RIGHT.
UM, WE DIDN'T, DID WE MAKE CONTENT CHANGES BASED ON WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CONTENT CHANGES BASED ON THAT? OH, NO, BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THAT ARE THE SCOPE OF WORK OR SOMETHING WASN'T BROAD ENOUGH.
SO WE HAVE THE FEEDBACK THAT HE SENT TO HER.
Y'ALL KNOW, I'M FRUSTRATED, I'M MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE'S WORKED ON CONTRACTS.
SHE SAID, SHE'S WORKING ON CONTRACTS.
SO MAYBE THERE'S A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT SHE HAS.
SO ALLOW HER TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO TAKE IT BACK.
AND THEN THIS SENSE, THIS IS SOMETHING SHE HAS EXPERTISE IN.
I MEAN, THEY'RE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THIS IS WHAT THEY DO TO ACTUALLY MEET WITH THEM THEN.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT CHANGES SEE SUGGESTION BEFORE WE FINALIZE IT? YEAH, I THINK THAT, UM, WE WERE ALL COPIED ON THE EMAIL OR RECENT OUT WITH THE WORDS THAT HE HAD TO SAY.
UM, THE MAIL FROM MVP, RC HAS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
I BASE, I THINK BASICALLY IT WAS ABOUT THE SCOPE, BUT I'LL RESEND.
DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THAT? Y'ALL RECALL THAT I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE, UH, CHANGES, UH, SUGGEST AT WORK, BUT, UM, THE THINGS THAT WERE IN THE LETTER THAT I THINK WE SAW, WE DID INCORPORATE MUCH OF THAT OTHER THAN CONTENT AND WE DIDN'T WIDEN THE SCOPE AT ALL.
LIKE BRIAN EXPLAINED TO THEM, UM, RIGHT.
AND THIS IT'S A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SUBCONTRACT PORTIONS OF IT.
IF YOU CAN'T MEET THE WHOLE BILL, THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, I WILL, I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT, SOMEHOW LOOP HER IN.
UM, BUT I'LL ALSO TALK TO MVP, RC REPRESENTATIVE ABOUT, DIRECTLY ABOUT HIS RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE RFQ.
UM, THE PROCLAMATION, SO ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MEET WITH THAT.
WE WOULD MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL DIRECTLY AND WE HAD THAT MEETING LAST MONTH, BUT THAT MEETING FOCUSED ON THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND FOCUSED ON THE YES, CCRB.
HOWEVER, WE WANTED TO MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY TO DISCUSS THE PROCLAMATION.
AND WE WANTED TO DISCUSS HOW BASICALLY, HOW DO WE MOVE THE WORDS OFF OF THE
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PAPER INTO ACTION? HOW DO WE ALIGN ACTIONS TO THE PROCLAMATION? AND THE THOUGHT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT I RECEIVED THOUGHT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT BY IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING NOW.SO THERE'S NOT AN UNDERSTANDING, A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AROUND WHAT DO WE MEAN BY ALIGNING ACTIONS TO THE PROCLAMATION.
SO I SAID, OKAY, SO DO WE NEED TO HAVE A FORMAL WRITTEN OUT RECOMMENDATION TO X, Y, Z.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
WELL, MADAM CHAIR, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I HAVE NOT SEEN, I'M SURE ALL OF US CAN AGREE ANYTHING IN A PROCLAMATION BEING EXECUTED, YOU KNOW, BY THE CITY IT NEEDS TO, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, ON THAT.
YES, IT WAS GOOD TO TALK ABOUT THE CCRB, BUT WE HAVE TO SHIFT ALSO TO FOCUS ON THAT RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT WILL BE TWO YEARS IN APRIL OF 2023, SINCE THAT RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THERE WAS NO ACTION EXECUTED.
SO THAT DISCUSSION HAS TO BE HAD PERIOD.
SO CITY COUNTY, CITY COUNCIL, AND I'M SPEAKING VERY BROADLY HERE BELIEVES THAT THERE ARE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN PLACE BASED ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT.
THERE'S ACTIVITY I'LL SAY, BUT I'M REALLY TRYING TO DRIVE HOME.
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE DONE A LOT, WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THESE ARE SURFACE AND THEY'RE REALLY SOME DEEP SYSTEMIC THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BEGIN TO WORK ON.
BUT IF PEOPLE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT THEMSELVES, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW.
AND I THINK THAT THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE ALONG THE WAY.
I'M HOPING TO EXPAND THE THINKING AND EXPAND THE PURVIEW OUTSIDE OF JUST THEIR INDIVIDUAL.
BUT IT MEANS THAT, UM, WE HAVE TO PUT A DOCUMENT TOGETHER WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, AND, AND YOU, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT YOU SAW IN HERE THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT CITY COUNCIL BE PRESENT, PARTICIPATE IN THINGS.
AND, UM, I SHARED THAT THAT WILL NEVER LEAVE OUR LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE WE ALWAYS EXPECT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN, ESPECIALLY FROM OUR EDUCATION FORUMS, IT'S FINE TO COME TO THE FESTIVALS AND WE ALL CAN GET TOGETHER AND LEARN ABOUT DIFFERENT CULTURES.
BUT THOSE EDUCATION FORUMS ARE REALLY WHEN A LOT OF THE HEAVY CONVERSATION HAPPENS IN A LOT OF THE LEARNING HAPPENS TO DIET AT THE DEEP DIALOGUE AND IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO BE THERE AND BE REPRESENTED BECAUSE THEN I THINK THEY COULD UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT PROCLAMATION IS AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND MADAM CHAIR, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU FOR THE FORM THAT WE HAD IN JUNE, THAT WAS WHY WE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES FOR CITY COUNCIL LEADERSHIP TO BE PRESENT, TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, THOSE SEVEN SECTIONS IN THE PROCLAMATION.
AND WE ASKED THEIR FEEDBACK AND BUY-IN FOR THOSE THAT ATTENDED IT WASN'T EVERYONE.
BUT FOR THOSE WHO ATTENDED AND THE RESPONSES AS THOSE OF US WHO WERE THERE, THEY JUST GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE, AS FAR AS THAT FORUM TO BE A FOLLOW-UP TO THE FIRST FOUR THAT WE HAD ON THIS TOPIC.
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I THOUGHT, OKAY, WELL, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? DO WE NEED TO OPEN IT UP AND DO A COMMUNITY FORUM WHERE ALL THE CITY COUNCIL IS REPRESENTED AND TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION AND SEEKING IDEAS AND INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.AND IF WE DO THAT, THEN IT BECOMES A MEETING.
SO IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC, WHICH IS FINE.
BUT THEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM THERE THAT THEY DECIDE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME, THEN WE CAN'T HAVE IT, RIGHT.
BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING AND YOU'RE CONDUCTING, YOU'RE CONDUCTING CITY BUSINESS.
IF YOU'RE HAVING A DIALOGUE ABOUT IT'S CONSIDERED CITY BUSINESS, BRIAN HAS SOMETHING, I MEAN, IT'S POLICY DIALOGUE IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THAT DIALOGUE COULD IMPACT LEGISLATION.
AND SO THAT, THAT IS CONDUCTING BUSINESS.
TRANSPARENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO SOMEHOW TRIED TO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL WANTS US TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, LEEWAY TO WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.
SO AGAIN, BASED ON THIS RESOLUTION, YOU HAVE SEVEN SECTIONS.
WELL, I'LL SAY SIX, REALLY? THAT TALKS ABOUT KEY POINTS IN TERMS OF COURSES OF ACTION THAT THEY CAN TAKE.
DO THEY WANT US TO GIVE THEM EXAMPLES OF WHAT THEY SHOULD DO? AND THEREFORE WE WILL HAVE THAT DIALOGUE.
I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS EXACTLY, THEY NEED TO BE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT THEY WOULD NEED FROM US TO HAVE A PRODUCTIVE DIALOGUE TO EXECUTE.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THESE THINGS HERE, BACK THAT COUNTS.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY I SAID IT, BUT, AND THEY MENTIONED EXAMPLES.
DO THEY MENTION EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING? WELL, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE A MULTICULTURAL.
I MEAN, WHEN WE LOOK THROUGH OUR LIST OF, OF, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE, WE HAVE OUR PROCLAMATIONS, WE HAVE OUR JUNE TEAM, WE HAVE OUR INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S DAY.
WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS, RIGHT.
THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, THOSE ARE GETTING TO KNOW NONE OF THAT.
THE ISSUE IS SPECIFIED IN THE VESSEL.
IT DOESN'T ALIGN, BUT THAT'S THE THOUGHT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.
JUST SHORT OF DRAWING A MAP ON A MAP TO, UH, WHAT A PERFECT HUBER HEIGHTS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
CAN WE IDENTIFY MAYBE FIVE TO 10 THINGS? AND I KNOW WE'VE PROBABLY DONE THIS ALREADY, THAT THE COUNCIL CAN DO THAT ABSENT OF THIS COMMISSION.
UM, AND CAUSE IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO TEACH DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION, UM, AND THE ABSENCE OF A CRISIS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S HOW MOST ORGANIZATIONS AND, UM, IN THIS CASE, MUNICIPALITIES LEARN, RIGHT.
AND WE IN THIS, THIS, THIS BODY HERE W WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING, BY PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE AND KIND OF POINTING OUR CITY LEADERS TO WHAT WE KNOW, DIVERSITY EQUITY, INCLUSION, INCLUSION, TO LOOK LIKE.
SO WE CAN'T DO THAT FOR THE CITY.
THE CITY HAS TO DO THAT FOR THE CITY, RIGHT? SO MAYBE WE CAN IDENTIFY FIVE THINGS, LET'S START HERE.
AND THEN NEXT QUARTER, FIVE MORE THINGS, AND THEN DO A, LIKE A PROGRESS AND HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE COUNCIL DO A PROGRESS REPORT OF HOW THOSE FIVE INITIATIVES ARE DOING AND, AND, AND, AND GET THEM MORE INVOLVED IN THE WORK OF DEA.
I MEAN, JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UM, THAT TH THE, THE EXTRA QUESTIONS ON AN APPLICATION,
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DID WE EVER GET THAT DONE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT AND RUNNING INTO LEGAL ISSUES OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE WHEN ALMOST EVERY OTHER COMPANY IN THIS COUNTRY IS COLLECTING THAT SAME INFORMATION, JUST SO WE CAN SIMPLY TRACK HOW MANY MINORITIES ARE APPLYING VERSUS HOW MANY HAVE BEEN HIRED AND IT'S, AND THAT'S LIKE BASIC 1 0 1, RIGHT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ATTRACTING MINORITIES TO WANT TO APPLY? AND THEN WHEN THEY APPLIED, HOW MANY MINORITIES HAVE YOU APPLIED VERSUS HOW MANY WE DIDN'T, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SIMPLE MATH, IT'S SIMPLE COLLECTED INFORMATION.AND WHILE WE HAVEN'T THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TWO YEARS AGO, AND WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT DONE.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN I SEE THINGS LIKE THAT IN ORGANIZATIONS, IT'S, IT'S MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO UNTIL I DON'T NEED TO ANY LONGER.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT I SEE.
THAT'S WHAT I SEE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT I ALSO SEE WHEN A DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION COMMISSION IS TRYING TO MEET TO MAKE THOSE THINGS BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
THERE'S ONE VISITOR HERE, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE AVERAGE OUTSIDE OF JEANS.
MOM, ARE WE, ARE WE REALLY IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY BY WHAT WE ARE DOING? THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I KNOW THAT THE SEATS ARE EMPTY.
I KNOW THAT WE ARE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE, WE'RE TWISTING ARMS OF THE COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE AND COME TO THESE THINGS.
AND AT, UH, IN GREATER NUMBERS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED.
BUT THERE WAS AN ELECTION, RIGHT.
AND AS SOON AS THE ELECTION WAS ALL RAISED, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE'LL GO BACK TO DOING WHAT WE WERE DOING.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT COMPLAINING.
I'M JUST SAYING, THIS IS WHAT I SEE.
AND I KNOW IN ORDER FOR THAT TO GET BETTER TO LEADERS OF, UH, OF OUR, UM, OUR ELECTED LEADERS OF OUR CITY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, PUT SOME OF THE WORK IN UPFRONT TO KEEP THINGS FROM GETTING TO WHERE WE KNOW THEY CAN BE WHEN WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THESE THINGS.
MADAM CHAIR, UM, WHEN WE HAD OUR JOINT MEETING WITH COUNSEL, I GAVE A SHEET, UM, TO EVERY ONE ON COUNCIL THAT WAS, AND I THINK I GAVE YOU A COPY, BRIAN, WHICH WASN'T ASSESSMENT THAT SHOULD BE DONE QUARTERLY TO ANALYZE WHERE YOUR ORGANIZATION IS WITH DEI, THAT QUARTERLY ASSESSMENT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY A D E I WORLD RENOWN SPEAKER, MOTIVATOR TRAINER.
NETTA JENKINS IS D E I WORK WITH MAJOR FORTUNE $500 CORPORATIONS.
SHE WORKS WITH PRIVATE PUBLIC VENTURES.
I PROVIDED THAT TO COUNCIL IN THE CITY, AND I WONDER WHAT HAS BEEN DONE WITH THAT SINCE I PROVIDED IT.
SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PROVIDING RESOURCES, WE'RE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE EDUCATION, UM, SHORT OF TAKING THEM BY THE HAND AND FEEDING IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK WE'VE DONE ENOUGH.
UM, THAT RESOURCE, WHAT I HOPED WOULD HAPPEN IS THAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT IT AND DO AN HONEST ASSESSMENT INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY OF WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY.
UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT WENT ONCE I PUT IT IN THEIR HANDS.
I THINK THE THING TOO, AND I'VE SAID THIS REPEATEDLY, THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT CITY COUNCIL, WE DON'T LEAD THE CITY.
THE LEADERS HAVE TO SET THE TONE FOR THE CITY AS MUCH AS TRY, WE WORK HARD AND DILIGENTLY, BUT IT REALLY HAS TO COME FROM THE TOP.
AND UNTIL IT DOES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MOVEMENT
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THAT WE NEED TO MAKE.AND SO IF FROM, FROM THE TOP, WE CAN'T GET THE BUY-IN AND THE ACTION.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED, BUT THE REAL DEEP WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HASN'T HAPPENED.
AND IF WE, AS A CITY, AREN'T READY TO DO THAT OR WILLING TO DO THAT, THEN WE'RE NOT READY FOR THIS COMMISSION.
SO, UM, BECAUSE I I'M THERE, RIGHT.
UM, WE'VE WORKED HARD AND TIRELESSLY BECAUSE WE'RE COMMITTED TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE AN INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK IF IT'S NOT COMING FROM US TO PUSH IT OUT.
SO IN TERMS OF THE ACTION ITEMS ALIGNED TO THE PROCLAMATION, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM DOING SO MUCH OF THE LEGWORK AND CARRYING IT AND GIVE THAT TO THEM, TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE LEADING THE CITY, RIGHT.
SO WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR YOU TO DO A DEI AUDIT, RIGHT? SO TAKE THE, THE DOCUMENT THAT RHONDA GAVE THEM AND ASSESS IN ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS, START THERE.
AND THAT'S A STEP TOWARD MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE PROCLAMATION.
THEN AS YOU START TO DO THAT, MAYBE YOUR EYES WILL OPEN AND YOU'LL SEE, WELL, THERE'S SOME INEQUITIES HAPPENING HERE.
THERE'S SOME THINGS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR A CRISIS.
SO MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
I MEAN, I'M, I CAN'T, I'M NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE ANSWERS ON THEIR OWN.
ONCE THEY GET PRIVY TO EDUCATION AND INFORMATION, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THAT INFORMATION AND SAY, OH, I NEED TO DO XYZ.
I DON'T NEED ANYBODY TELLING ME TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE AS A COMMISSION, UM, WE COULD FORM A WORK GROUP AND WE CAN START TO LOOK AT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE DOING THE DEI AUDIT OR SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A RECOMMENDED BOOK TO READ ANYTHING, BUT WE'VE GOT TO MOVE BEYOND ALL OF THE DOING, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MOVING THE MARK.
LIKE WE COULD, IF WE HAD THE BUY-IN MADAM CHAIR, UM, SINCE WE HAVE BRIAN HERE, BRIAN, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AS A CITY MANAGER, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO WITH YOUR CITY LEADERS, UM, IN A MEETING AND A STAFF MEETING? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL COULD DO SINCE WE'RE IN FOURTH QUARTER WITH REGARD TO, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO OR WHO DO.
SO BEFORE I, I AGREE, DISAGREE OR PAST E I ASSESSMENT, AS, AS WE TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHERE THE CITY IS WITH THOSE DIFFERENT METRICS ON THAT FORM, AND I CAN RESEND IT TO YOU, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING DIALOGUE WITH YOUR CITY LEADERS ABOUT, UH, IF YOU COULD RESEND THE FORM? UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, UH, AT THE STAFF SENIOR STAFF LEVEL ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT MIGHT BE A TOOL THAT WE COULD UTILIZE, UM, AS YOU MIGHT SUSPECT, WE'RE HAVING SOME STAFFING ISSUES AT THE MOMENT.
UM, AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT, UM, AS AN ORGANIZATION, UM, WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON, OR WE WOULDN'T, I SHOULDN'T SAY WE NEED TO BE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE WORKING ON THAT.
UM, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IMPACT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, UM, WHICH MAKES OUR ABILITY TO BE RESPONSIVE.
UM, UH, NOT AS, UH, NOT AS EASILY AS WE MIGHT LIKE.
SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, WE'RE STILL OPERATING ON A PERSONNEL MANUAL THAT WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2017.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE
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CHANGED IN THE WORLD OF PERSONNEL FROM 2017 TO, TO TODAY.AND THAT'S NOT FOR LACK OF WANT FROM HUMAN RESOURCES, BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, AND ALL OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE, EVEN, EVEN AT FULL STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO HAVING TO UPDATE THAT MANUAL.
AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU GET AN UPDATED, THERE'S A GOOD SECTION OF IT.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, I KNOW THE EEO DATA IS IMPORTANT AND, UM, WE KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT WE ALSO WANT IT TO BE MEANINGFUL.
AND SO FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS A SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT WE, THAT IS PREFERRED BY SOME DEPARTMENTS TO TRACK THAT WE USE FOR OUR TIMEKEEPING.
AND IT DOESN'T WORK AS WELL AS WE WOULD LIKE IT TO, BUT IT WORKS WELL WITH FINANCE AND THE FINANCE SOFTWARE AND THE TIMEKEEPING SOFTWARE, WHICH ACTUALLY ORIGINATED OUTSIDE OF HR DON'T NECESSARILY SERVE EVERY FUNCTION FOR HUMAN RESOURCES AND HUMAN RESOURCES WOULD LIKE TO BRING IN A SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT WOULD WORK MORE IN LINE TO DO THE THINGS HR NEEDS TO DO, INCLUDING TRACK EEO DATA.
BUT IN ORDER TO BRING THAT SOFTWARE IN, YOU'RE NOW IN A WAR WITH 12 OTHER DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHO USES WHAT SOFTWARE AND WHAT CAPACITY AND HOW EVERYONE IS.
SO JUST A SIMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL CHANGE TO SAY, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FROM SOFTWARE PACKAGE X TO SOFTWARE PACKAGE, WHY IT'S NOT AS EASY AS HIRING A VENDOR AND LOADING NEW SOFTWARE OVER OLD SOFTWARE.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO TO HELP, NOT JUST YOU, BUT TO HELP OURSELVES AS WELL, AND SOME OF THESE AVENUES, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE AN ABILITY TO DO.
AND IT'S NOT, ANYBODY'S INTENT TO BE OBSTRUCTIONIST, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, I KIND OF A CANDIDATE TO, IF ANYBODY'S EVER BEEN ON A BOAT, RIGHT, AND YOU CAN SIT AT THE HELM AND YOU CAN SPIN THE WHEEL TO TURN THE BOAT.
AND THE WHEEL TURNS VERY QUICKLY, BUT IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THE BOAT TO PHYSICALLY TURN, EVEN THOUGH THAT WHEEL IS SPINNING AS FAST AS YOU COULD GET IT TO SPIN.
AND SO GOVERNMENT IS NOT DISSIMILAR TO TRYING TO NAVIGATE ABOUT SO WE CAN SPIN THE WHEEL AS FAST AS WE WANT, BUT THE BOAT IS ONLY GOING TO TURN AS FAST AS IT CAN TURN.
AND SO, UM, RHONDA, TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SEND THE FORM, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO WITH THAT.
I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WE COULD HAVE AN EFFECTIVE RESPONSE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AND THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN AT LEAST GLEAN FROM THAT TO HELP US DO WHAT WE DO BETTER.
SO I CAN MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.
I THINK THE KEY THING IS THAT, UM, DEI IS NOT A, LET'S DO AN ACTIVITY ONCE A QUARTER, ONCE A MONTH, WHATEVER IT HAS TO BE EMBEDDED IN THE SYSTEM, IN EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
SO EVERYTHING FROM YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOW MANY MINORITY BUSINESSES ARE WE ATTRACTING AND KEEPING WHEN IT COMES TO BIDDING, ACCEPTING BIDS, HOW MANY MINORITY CONTRACTORS ACTUALLY BID AND HOW MANY DO WE AWARD THINGS OF THAT? I MEAN, IT JUST HAS TO BE IN OUR HIRING PRACTICES, RIGHT? SO IT JUST HAS TO BE EMBEDDED IN THE SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO WORK TOWARD.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING LIKE THE, LIKE I SAID, THE SURFACE THINGS, WE'RE DOING THOSE THINGS, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT HOW DO WE EMBED THIS IN THE ORGANIZATION.
AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT PROCLAMATION IN THE ORGANIZATION, IN THE CITY, AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT PROCLAMATION, THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROCLAMATION IS, IS TO EMBED IT IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE CITY.
SO WE CAN REALLY START TO BE STRATEGIC AND HAVE STRATEGIC CONVERSATIONS AROUND HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN EVERY MEETING THAT WE HAVE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT CONNECTING TO DEI, SERVING OUR DIVERSE POPULATIONS AND MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION IS TRYING TO GET US.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP MAKE HAPPEN.
AND I, I, I WON'T, UM, I WON'T SIT HERE AND, AND, UM, MINIMIZE WHAT IT IS THAT THE COMMISSION IS TRYING TO DO.
I FULLY, I CAN FULLY SEE THAT.
AND I COMPLETELY APPRECIATE THAT.
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AND JUST THE PERSPECTIVES THAT WE HAVE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO ADVANCE THE GOALS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T FIND QUALIFIED PEOPLE.
I DON'T CARE WHAT RACE THEY ARE.
I DON'T CARE WHAT ETHNICITY THEY ARE.
WE CAN'T FIND QUALIFIED PEOPLE, PERIOD, FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE, OFFICERS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONALS, ANYONE TO COME INTO THIS LINE OF WORK RIGHT NOW TO FIND WHO'S QUALIFIED IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.
SO I WANT TO ADVANCE YOUR AGENDA, BUT RIGHT NOW, BUT IN ORDER TO ADVANCE YOUR AGENDA, I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, WE'RE IN COMPETITION FOR EVERYTHING AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, LOOK AT HOW THE REGION IS GROWING.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE TODAY THAT VANDALIA, UH, JUST THE OTHER DAY AND DELHI, A BIG ARTICLE IN THE PAPER ABOUT THEIR BIG WAREHOUSE THAT WAS FALLING DOWN, THAT WAS IN COMPETITION WITH A NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY AND A NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY.
AND RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FOCUSING ON OBJECTIVES OF THE WINNING.
I DON'T CARE WHAT RACE THE BUSINESS OWNER IS.
I DON'T CARE WHAT ETHNICITY THE BUSINESS OWNER IS.
I'M TRYING TO WIN THE BUSINESS PERIOD.
AND IT'S A STRUGGLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
LET ALONE TO BE ABLE TO PUT TIME, EFFORT AND ENERGY, TO FIND SEGMENTS WITHIN THE REALM OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR WITHIN BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, RECRUITMENT, AND ATTACHMENT.
SO YOUR MESSAGE IS NOT FALLING ON DEAF EARS.
PLEASE KNOW THAT, UM, AT OUR LEVEL, UM, WE TO SEE THAT DIVERSITY, WE WANT TO SEE, UM, THAT SPECTRUM OF, UH, REPRESENTATION AT ALL LEVELS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE JUST NOT ALWAYS PROVIDED THE POOL OF WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S EMPLOYEES OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BUSINESSES OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S CON CONTRACTORS.
UM, WE CAN ONLY BE RESPONSIVE WITH, TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND WHEN WE'RE GETTING ONE VENDOR TO APPLY ON, UH, YOU KNOW, A $300,000 PROJECT, AND IT'S THE THIRD TIME WE BID IT, I, I CAN'T BE PICKY OR CHOOSY ABOUT WHAT I'M GETTING, RIGHT.
SO, SO RECOGNIZE WE'RE SEEING SOME STRUGGLES ON OUR END TOO.
SO, UM, WHERE WE CAN, AND WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO TRY AND ADVANCE THE AGENDA OF THE COMMISSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE EYE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND WE'LL LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.
UH, ONE THING I WILL SAY THOUGH, IS I, I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT CAUSE YOU'RE IN THE THICK OF IT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE THE CITY MANAGER.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE WEARING A LOT OF HATS, BUT I THINK IF WE COULD IMPROVE SOME OF THE AREAS AND FOCUS MORE ON SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT THE HANDBOOK IS, YOU KNOW, IMPROVED AND THAT IT'S ADVANCED AND THAT DEI AS EMBEDDED IN THE VERY NATURE OF OUR BUSINESS, IT WOULD BRING, YOU KNOW, SOME QUALIFIED TALENT THAT YOU COULD RETAIN.
UM, SO I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE OUTSIDE IN, I KNOW I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT FROM WHERE YOU'RE SITTING, BUT I DO THINK IF WE COULD CHANGE SOME OF THOSE THINGS, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS REMOVING THAT QUALIFICATION, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR INSURANCE PRIOR TO YOU BEING AWARDED, OPENS UP A POOL OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES NOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SAYING, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO APPLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE INSURANCE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE OPENING IT UP TO GET MORE QUALIFIED BIDS WHEN YOU REMOVE THAT BARRIER.
SO I THINK SOMETIMES LOOKING AT IT A DIFFERENT WAY, UM, MAYBE RECRUITING IN SOME DIFFERENT PLACES, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SOME BOARDS, LIKE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ON THE ASSESSMENT DOES ASK, IF YOU WERE TO ASK YOUR BLACK INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF COLOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT HOW THE CITY ADDRESSES DEI INITIATIVES OR DEI IN GENERAL AS A COMPANY.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, OR THEY DON'T HAVE MANY BLACK EMPLOYEES, OR YOU DON'T HAVE ANY INDIGENOUS EMPLOYEES, YOU CAN'T ASK THEM.
SO THEN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE THAT'S SCENARIO, YOU GOT TO REALLY FOCUS ON.
SO THEN MAYBE THAT, YOU KNOW, SPARKS YOU TO DO SOME DIFFERENT RECRUITING.
SO USE US FOR THAT EXPERTISE TO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS OF HOW TO RECRUIT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
WE WANT TO BE THAT ADVISORY CAPACITY TO YOU.
UM, WE'RE A RESOURCE, BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW THOSE CHALLENGES THAT YOU'RE HAVING, THEN WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HELP YOU.
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AND THIS IS A PRETTY WELL CONNECTED GROUP OF FOLKS.SO I WOULD DEFINITELY TAP INTO IT.
SO, UM, THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION WHERE WE LEFT THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A WORKING GROUP.
THAT'S WHERE WE LEFT IT FOR THE PROCLAMATION.
AND TO REALLY LOOK AT JUST MAYBE THREE INITIATIVES OR THREE THINGS, NO ONE THING RIGHT NOW THAT THE CITY COULD DO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE RONDA'S, UM, ASSESSMENT PIECE, BUT, UM, KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF THAT.
SO WHO WAS INTERESTED IN BEING ON THAT WORK GROUP? WHAT WAS THE WONDERFUL WORK GROUP FOR THE PROCLAMATION? WELL, NAMES, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, EVEN A VOLUNTEER.
CAUSE I'M ONLY CONFUSED, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CORE OF EVERYTHING, ARE YOU CLASSIFYING IT AS A PROCLAMATION OR DID YOU WANT AN EXTRA LEGISLATION? BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S COMPLETELY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE PROCLAMATION IS JUST THROWING YOUR WORDS OUT AND SAYING, HEY, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BLACK HISTORY DAY, ERIN AND EVERYBODY GET TOGETHER WHERE IT'S LEGISLATION.
THAT MEANS THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE DONE SUCH AS YOUR ASSESSMENT, MAKING THAT A REQUIREMENT SAYING, WE WANT LEGISLATION THAT SAYS THIS DDI, WHICH I APOLOGIZE.
SO MAKING THAT A LEGISLATION SAYING THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO LEGISLATION THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS TO FILL IT OUT EVERY QUARTER.
WHEREAS THE PROCLAMATION DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'S THE LEGISLATION ITSELF.
SO I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED WHEN YOU'RE SAYING PROCLAMATION VERSUS LEGISLATIONS.
LIKE HE SAID, YOU DO HAVE THAT FORM AND YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE WITH A PROCLAMATION SAYING, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE IT IS A PROCLAMATION AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
NO LEGISLATION ALIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE ONE THAT'S ON THE ANNOUNCING RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS? THE PROBLEM WE HAVE THAT PROBLEM, IS IT A RESOLUTION OR IS IT IN RELATION TO THE RESOLUTION? THE RESOLUTION RESOLUTION.
WHO'S ON THE WORKROOM AND WE ALL, WE DO TAKE VOLUNTEERS, JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, RHONDA YOLANDA.
AND ALONG THOSE LINES, SO THEY ARE, UM, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE STARTING SOMETHING NEW.
YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT, UM, MAYOR GORE TALKED ABOUT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND ONE OF THE MEETINGS AND WHETHER YOUR OUTCOMES OF THAT IS THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS REPORT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS JUST TO GIVE UPDATES LIKELY, MAYBE QUARTERLY THEY'D HAVEN'T DEFINED IT.
BUT EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIALOGUE WITH CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S JUST AN FYI IN TERMS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE EEO GATHERING DATA, THE, WHERE THAT WAS LEFT WAS I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP THE, UM, APPLICATION SEPARATE FROM THE EEO DATA COLLECTED.
SO WE TALKED THROUGH THAT BECAUSE I WAS SHARING THAT THERE'S CITIES ALL AROUND US THAT ARE DOING IT.
SO I'M GOING TO SEND KATIE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.
THAT WE KNEW WE ALL, WE EXPECTED THIS.
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ANYMORE.
SO WE ARE WELL BEYOND EIGHT 30.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS EVERYTHING
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FROM THE MEETING.ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THAT? ALL RIGHT, GOOD.
SO WE HAVE COVERED, WE WERE MOVING FROM ALSO RECOMMENDATION UPDATE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE RESOLUTION.
SO 20, 23 KEY INITIATIVES AND CALENDAR.
UM, WE NEED TO SOLIDIFY OUR CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO BY, IN NOVEMBER, THEY'RE GOING TO START PUTTING THE CALENDAR TOGETHER, THE, UM, THE FLYER, THE PAMPHLET, WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THE DATES AND THINGS.
SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO SARAH.
SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A CALENDAR TOGETHER IN NOVEMBER FOR WHAT WE'RE TARGETING FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE A FEW THINGS ALREADY.
WE'VE GOT OUR MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL AND NO NOVEMBER.
SO, UM, MA'AM CHAIR, YOU ASKING BY THE NOVEMBER COMMISSION MEETING TO HAVE OUR DATES FOR NEXT YEAR.
IF YOU HAVE IT FOR OCTOBER AND OCTOBER, THE SOONER, THE BETTER, BUT THAT'S THE DROP DEAD IT'S NOVEMBER.
UM, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THE KEY INITIATIVES, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE COMMITTEES ANYMORE.
WE DISCUSSED STILL MAINTAINING OUR FOCUS ON THOSE KEY AREAS.
WE'LL JUST DO IT IN THE FORM OF WORKING GROUPS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? SO I HAVE A QUESTION, MAN, CHAIR.
SO AS FAR AS HE'S WORKING GROUPS, HOW IS THIS GOING TO WORK NOW? SINCE WE DON'T HAVE COMMITTEES ANYMORE, LIKE WHAT'S OKAY.
SO TASKS WILL COME OUT OF OUR MEETINGS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE HAVE OUR KEY INITIATIVES, WE MAY HAVE A TASK GROUP ALIGNED TO ACCOMPLISHING THOSE GOALS.
SO LIKE, WE'LL HAVE A TASK GROUP FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL AND WE WILL HAVE VOLUNTEERS INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL.
BUT THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SPECIAL ITEMS LIKE HERE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION OR LIKE THE BREAST CANCER AWARENESS KIND OF POP UP THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE A TASK GROUP FOR.
SO THEY WON'T BE, THOSE WILL BE SHORTER IN DURATION.
SO AS YOU KNOW, THE FIRST EVENT, I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE.
SO SINCE WE'RE PLANNING THAT TO BE NEXT YEAR, UM, WE CAN START HAVING MEETINGS NOW TO START PLANNING OR OKAY.
AND HAVING ALL THOSE DATES SOLIDIFIED IS GOING TO HELP US WITH OUR PLANNING.
I HAVE MARKETING PROMOTIONAL ITEMS ON HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING.
SO WE WERE AT THE, UM, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, I WAS LIKE, MAN, WE NEED A TABLECLOTH.
THAT'S, THERE'S SOMETHING, BUT FIRST WE NEED A LOGO.
SO WE NEED, WE NEED A LOGO BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE WHEN WE GO TO EVENTS, I WOULD TO HAVE A TABLE, A NICE TABLE OUT THAT HAS OUR CULTURAL DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION ON IT AND PAMPHLETS AND, YOU KNOW, FIRES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I JUST PUT THIS ON, UH, ON HERE FOR US TO START THINKING ABOUT, BECAUSE I KNOW, UM, WHAT NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR NEXT YEAR, WE WILL, FOR THIS YEAR WE HAD $15,000 IN OUR BUDGET.
I BELIEVE THAT SARAH SAID THAT WE'RE BUMPING AGAINST 10, 9, 10 RIGHT NOW.
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SPENT SO FAR.
UM, SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED AND PLAN FOR THAT NOW.
SO I'M GOING TO JUST START BRAINSTORMING THINGS THAT WE MIGHT NEED FOR PROMOTIONAL ITEMS. AND THEN LET ME KNOW, SEND ME, SEND ME YOUR LIST
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WHEN WE NEED SHIRTS.WE KNOW THAT SHIRT'S PROBABLY WORN OUT BY NOW.
NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST NEVER, UH, THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, ANYTHING POP TO MIND NOW
NOW, KATIE THERE MENTIONED, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING NEXT YEAR, THAT MAY REQUIRE US TO NEED MORE MONEY, THEN WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE BUDGET GOES OCTOBER, WE'RE ACTIVELY ENGAGED.
LIKE WE JUST STARTED, I THINK THIS WEEK WAS THE FIRST WEEK THAT WE WERE DOING BUDGET MEETINGS AT STAFF, UH, WITH ALL THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS DIVISION.
SO WE'LL BE PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL BE MAKING PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL IN OCTOBER WITH ADOPTION IN NOVEMBER.
SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, 20, 23 BUDGET, UH, YOU HAD HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER ABOUT, UH, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, IT WOULD BE LIKELY THAT YOU WOULD AWARD A CONTRACT IN 2023 TO ACTUALLY PERFORM THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
SO IF YOU HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WAS GONNA COST, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
WE WOULD BE ASKING THAT INFORMANT, I'M SORRY, WHAT DOES THAT COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET? WELL, YES, BUT WE WOULD ALSO FUND THAT, UM, IN ITS ENTIRETY.
SO, UM, BACK IN THE 2000 AND 2019, RIGHT WHEN THIS GROUP GOT TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME, UM, WE HAD PUT MONEY TO CONDUCT A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AT THAT TIME INTO THE BUDGET.
AND THEN WHEN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD AND THERE WAS NO DIRECTION AT BUDGET TIME MOVING INTO 2020 OR 2021, WHATEVER IT WAS, WE JUST BUDGETED YOU OPERATIONAL MONEY.
SO JUST IF WE HAD AN IDEA, UM, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON, UM, AT THE SAME TIME TO COME BACK AND ADD MONEY TO DO WHAT WE CALL A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION.
UH, SO WE MIGHT PUT AN OPERATIONAL MONEY FOR YOU THIS YEAR AT 15,000.
AND THEN YOU, UH, WERE TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
THAT PROCESS WOULD WORK ITSELF OUT.
WE NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT PRICE, AND THEN YOU WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND ASK THEM TO MAKE A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION AND WHATEVER THE VALUE OF THAT AMOUNT IS.
AND THEN THEY WOULD ADD THAT MONEY TO YOUR BUDGET.
SO IF THERE ARE MORE KIND OF DAY-TO-DAY THINGS, UM, THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO, IF YOU HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT BUDGET WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR, UH, BREAST CANCER AWARENESS, YOUR EVENT FOR, UM, I DUNNO FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, THEN THERE WERE THE SPEAKING EVENTS, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FORUMS. SO IF YOU HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, THAT WOULD HELP US BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT 15,000 AND IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT NUMBER, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT, UM, AND THEN WE WOULD JUST PROGRAM THE BUDGET BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.
SO WE NEED IT, WE NEED THE, UM, INSTEAD OF NOVEMBER WE NEEDED NOW.
SO, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ABSOLUTE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'D RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SET A BUDGET A YEAR AGO THINKING THAT GAS WAS A DOLLAR 99 AND IT'S NOT, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADJUST.
SO, UH, IF YOU WERE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY THINK OF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, 15 THOUSANDS, OKAY.
AT THIS POINT, BUT WE MIGHT NEED MORE.
WELL, IF YOU'LL COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, CITY COUNCIL, WE'VE ADDED THESE THREE ITEMS. AND HERE'S WHY WE THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT.
AND WE NEED Y AMOUNT MORE DOLLARS THAN WE WOULD PASS THIS UP.
WE NOT STAFF, BUT COUNCIL WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, ADOPT A SUPPLEMENTAL TO, TO GIVE YOU THE RESOURCES YOU NEED PROVIDED THOSE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE.
BUT THE FUNDS WILL BE THERE FOR THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IF WE APPROPRIATE THEM.
THEY WILL BE APPROPRIATED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA RIGHT NOW OF WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
WELL, UM, I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.
UM, AND THAT'S OKAY TO NOT HAVE THAT, UH, TO NOT HAVE THAT CONCEPT.
AND THEN WE WOULD JUST ADD IT AT THE TIME.
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PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THIS RF, THIS RFQ PROCESS, UM, IS TO IDENTIFY WHO WE WANTED TO WORK WITH SO THAT THEN WE CAN IDENTIFY WHAT THAT SCOPE OF WORK IS GOING TO COST BASED ON WHO WE WANTED TO WORK WITH.SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU, UH, BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE MIGHT BE, MIGHT HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THESE MIGHT COST.
I DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE PLUS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A PLUS MINUS VALUE TO THOSE ESTIMATES, BUT IF THERE, THERE WAS SOME IDEA OF WHAT YOU THOUGHT IT MIGHT COST BASED ON PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR AT LEAST WE HAVE SOME IDEA IF IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET, WHEN THE BUDGET ADOPTED DOES NOT MEAN WE DON'T HAVE RESOURCES, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE MONEY IN YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND THERE'S THE MONEY IN YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT.
YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEND WHAT'S IN YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT, BUT YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE, THERE'S THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
SO IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE TIME COMES AND WE DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR PAYING THAT BILL IN OUR CHECKING ACCOUNT, WELL, WE'LL REACH INTO THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
SO DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH WE ALLOCATED BEFORE? I WANT TO SAY IT WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT IT WAS ON A THOUSAND.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF IDEA ABOUT THAT TOO.
UM, ANY THING ELSE? ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? WHERE THE PRESENT, YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND IT, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND YOUR BIRTHDAY WITH US.
IT'S SEVEN AT MY APOLOGIES WOUND.
I DID NOT CIRCLE BACK TO YOUR SPONSORSHIP TASK GROUP.
UM, DO WE WANT TO GET A TASK GROUP NOW? OKAY.
WHAT'S YOUR SALES DOWN RIGHT? FOR YOUR TASK GROUP BECAUSE TARA GOT THEM ALL, SO, OKAY.
ADDITIONAL ITEMS MEETINGS NEXT MONTH ON TARA'S BIRTHDAY AT 7:00 PM FROM SEVEN TO 11.
IF THERE ARE NO NOTHING FURTHER, IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT 9:38 PM.