Jul 25, 2022 City Council Meeting

RICHARD IS A AT THE NLC SUMMER LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE IN ATLANTA CURRENTLY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE HIS ABSENCE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO A MOTION AND A SECOND TO EXCUSE RICHARD'S ABSENCE.

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THIS IS BERGE MR. OTTO.

MR. SHAW IS NOT HERE.

AND NEXT IS OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES, WHICH IS I'M NUMBER FIVE OUT IN FIVE, A CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 11TH, 2022.

SO MOTION TO EXCUSE PASSES SIX TO ONE.

[5. Approval Of Minutes]

THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED THROUGH NO CORRECTIONS.

THEY WILL STAND AS APPROVED ANY CORRECTIONS.

THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND APPROVED.

NEXT UP.

IS THAT NUMBER SIX SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ARE THERE ANY THIRD ON A SYDNEY MIRROR? THE NUMBER SEVEN CITIZENS

[7. Citizens Comments]

COMMENTS.

I HAVE ONE THIS EVENING.

MR. DAVID GOMPERS, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

I'VE BEEN UP HERE.

WE GOT ONE, ONE MORE WOMEN, COUNCILMAN.

UH, WE'VE BEEN IN THE CITY, MY WIFE, SALLY AND I FOR 50 YEARS.

I CAME TO THIS AREA IN DECEMBER OF 1972 AND OPEN THE FABRIC STORE OVER IN THE OLD NORTH TOWN SHOPPING CENTER ON MAIN NORTH MAIN STREET.

UH, MY WIFE DIDN'T LIKE THE AREA OVER THERE, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS SOME NICE TWO DOOR ENGLISH HOMES.

UH, SO WE HAD A STORE IN UBER CENTER AND THE MANAGER THERE SUGGESTED THAT WE COME TO UBERT HEIGHTS AND LOOK, AND WE ENDED UP ON TILBURY ROAD FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS AND ARE NOW PRESENT ADDRESS, UH, OFF OF RUSTY WOODS, WHICH WOULD BE TIMBER VIEW DRIVE TOWARDS THE WOODS THERE FOR 40 YEARS.

OUR TWO CHILDREN, SHELLY 81, WAYNE GRADUATE, ALSO AWARD ONE RESIDENT ON, UH, HUNTSVILLE COURT, SON, 85, WAYNE GRADUATE, UH, EVERGREEN WOODS, HIS WIFE, ANNA IS THE DEVELOPMENT FACILITATOR FOR THE PLACE OVER THERE.

UH, I USUALLY COME, UH, OH, BY, THERE WAS A PLACE ON NORTH DIXIE FROM NORTH MAIN STREET TO, AND YOU, PEOPLE MIGHT BE TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER, BUT THE TENDER TRAP DOES ANY OF YOU REMEMBER THE TENDER TRAP? WELL, I USED TO STOP THERE ON THE DAYS THAT I WORKED TILL SHORT DAYS.

IN OTHER WORDS, NOT AT NIGHTTIME.

AND, UH, I WAS IN THERE THIS ONE DAY AND UH, I MET THESE TWO PEOPLE.

UH, AND ONE GUY SAYS, WHERE, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? AND I SAID, UH, YOU WERE HEIGHTS.

HE SAYS, I LIVE IN HUBER HEIGHTS TOO.

HE SAYS, DO YOU HAVE ANY CHILDREN? I SAYS, I HAVE TWO, FIVE AND NINE.

HE SAID, DO THEY LIKE BASEBALL? I SAID, YES, THEY DO LIKE BASEBALL.

I SAID, MY DAUGHTER, EVEN POTS BASEBALL CARDS.

SO HE SAYS, MY NAME IS CHARLIE MANITA.

AND I SAID, MY NAME IS DAVE GOMPERS.

HE SAYS, WHERE DO YOU LIVE IN THE HEIGHTS? I SAID ON TILBURY ROAD, HE SAID, PERFECT.

HE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE, YOU WOULDN'T MIND HELPING US GET READY FOR THE BASEBALL SEASON AND WORK IN THE FIELDS.

WOULD YOU, UH, THE PARTICULAR, THE Y FIELD IS CLOSE TO YOU.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE, WHY IS? NO, SIR.

I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE IT'S.

I SAID, I KNOW WHERE TOM BURT, FITCHBURG, CHAMBERSBURG, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOUR MONTHS, UH, TO GET THE HOUSE.

AND SOMETIMES THAT'S EVEN A PROBLEM.

SO HE SAID, WELL, I'M GOING TO CALL YOU.

YOU GIVE ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND I'LL CALL YOU.

AND HE DID TO MAKE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA TIME ME OUT IN FIVE MINUTES.

I WANT TO GET TO THE POINT.

ANYHOW, I GO UP THERE THE TIME, MAYBE AT FIRST OR SECOND SATURDAY IN MAY UP TO THIS, WHY I FOUND OUT WHERE IT WAS RIGHT UP AROUND THE CORNER FROM MY HOUSE, DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS AT.

AND HE SAYS, WELL, I, I WAS THIS, UH, ARNIE JENS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE WITH HIM.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHO ARNIE JONES WAS.

YEARS LATER FOR YEARS, SINCE THAT WAS THE START OF MY 13 YEAR TENURE WITH THE HHA VA.

SO, UH, HE SAYS, I NEED YOU TO GO UP THE WILDCAT.

WHERE IS WILDCAT? HE SAID, THIS GIRL WOULD TAKE YOU UP.

I JUST GOT THESE BOYS.

I DON'T HAVE NO ADULT PEOPLE HERE, BUT YOU TODAY.

AND YOU GO UP THERE AND GET THIS TRACTOR.

I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE.

I'M A RETAIL, MAN.

I CAN'T

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NO FARMER.

I CAN'T DRIVE NO TRACTOR.

HE SAID, IF YOU COULD DRIVE A CAR, YOU CAN DRIVE THIS TRACK.

SO I GO UP THERE AND GET THE TRACK.

YOU'RE IN THE COURSE, MANY OF YOU MIGHT'VE KNOW IT WAS ED HART'S BUDDIES AND ED HART DIRECTS ME ON HOW TO COME OUT TO TAYLORSVILLE, DRIVE DOWN TO HARSHMAN BILL AND JUST GO STRAIGHT DOWN.

WELL, 50 YEARS AGO, THE TRAFFIC WASN'T IN, LIKE IT IS TODAY AND IN OUR LOVELY TOWN.

SO ANYHOW, LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS THE START 13 YEARS AS COACH, SUPERVISOR, AND SPONSOR OF THE HHA VA.

SO I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT I'VE DONE THINGS HERE IN THE HEIGHTS.

SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS, I HAVEN'T SLEPT I'M HERE TONIGHT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO UP THERE ON TO, UH, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OLD UBER INVESTMENT PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE.

I WOULD'VE TAKEN THAT AND MADE A PARK AND HAD A PLACE COME OUT.

WE GOT ENOUGH BUSINESSES, ENOUGH CHICKEN PLACE.

I BLAMED MY WIFE WHERE THE CHICKEN PLACE, OH, THAT'S COMING IN.

BECAUSE, UH, WHEN WE WERE AT HER 60TH REUNION BACK TWO YEARS AGO, UH, HER CLASSMATE AND, AND THE DEVELOPERS HAVE 35 OF THE CHICKEN POPEYE'S CHICKEN PLACES IN THE WASHINGTON VIRGINIA AREA.

AND SHE SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANY THERE'S ONE DOWN SOUTH.

AND THERE'S ONE OVER ON THE WEST SIDE.

I THINK WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN THE DATE IN THERE YET.

SO I BLAMED MIRVS.

HE, SHE MAY HAVE CAUSED SOME PROBLEMS THERE.

SHE MAY HAVE CALLED THEM.

SO, ANYHOW, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT I'M GOING TO READ OFF TO YOU, IT MEANT A LOT TO ME OVER THE YEARS OF MY 50 YEARS, A LOT OF THEM WERE SMALL PEOPLE'S HEIGHTS.

A LOT OF THEM WERE COUNSELED PEOPLE.

I PERSONALLY KNEW ALL OF THEM AND HAD ASSOCIATION WITH THEM AND DID THINGS WITH THEM OUTSIDE OF BUSINESS THINGS.

CHARLIE, YOU WERE FROM A ONE, OUR BUILDER OF THIS FINE COMMUNITY.

CHARLIE WAS EVEN REALLY NICE WHEN HE HAD A FEW DRINKS UNDER HIS BELT.

HE WAS PRETTY FUNNY, MR. , YOU KNOW, WE'RE APPROACHING SEVEN MINUTES, SO WE'RE WELL OVER WELL OVER THE FIVE, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PEOPLE AND THEN I'LL SHUT UP.

CHARLIE MANITA, ED HART, KEN GIBBS, DICK SCHUMPER, SHERWIN EISMAN, HENRY CAMPBELL, JAN VARGO THE CALIP'S RON FISHER, DALE HENDRICKS THE FALL, A FAMILY, THE WINNERS FAMILY WHO WERE BANKERS WERE A BANK.

UH, MY BACK KEEP IT IS TODAY, THE CHASE AND WE'RE BUSINESS PEOPLE.

AND A COUPLE OF THEM WERE EVEN, UH, DICK AND, UH, AND CHARLIE WERE EARLY PIONEERS OF THE TOWNSHIP EVEN.

AND, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO HAVE.

I UNDERSTAND, EVEN, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY I'M GOING OVER.

THESE ARE THE, THIS IS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY.

I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD TO YOU SO FAR.

SO YOU SHOULD GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

WELL WE ARE, BUT WE STILL HAVE.

WE STILL HAVE, I STILL HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT FOR US BEING THE FIRE CHIEF SO FAR, I JUST, THE FIRE CHIEF I'VE TALKED TO IN THE LAST YEAR.

I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT ONE OF THE NICE INSPIRE DEPARTMENTS FOR ANY CITIES AROUND.

I THINK WE GOT ONE OF THE NICEST POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

I JUST HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO TALK TO TALKING TO THE CHIEF PATROLMAN AND THE CHIEF PATROLMAN FIRST, THEN THE CHIEF ABOUT THE DRIVING IN THE HEIGHTS.

AND THEY'RE ON TOP OF IT.

SO I'M HAPPY WITH IT.

I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO COME TO YOU GUYS.

I WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IN BOTH CASES.

I HAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COME TO THE HOUSE TWICE IN 50 YEARS.

THEY WERE THERE BEFORE I GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THE DISPATCHER.

WE'RE TOP-NOTCH THERE.

WE'RE TALKING TO WATCH WITH HAVING THE ROSE UP THERE.

AND THE THING THAT I REALLY FOUGHT FOR FOR YEARS WAS THE TAX DEPARTMENT.

I HATE GIVING OUR TAXES OUT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO THIS IS ALL FOR THE GOOD OF THE HEIGHTS, BUT I THINK YOU REALLY ARE CRAMMING A THIN UP THERE ON 2 0 2 THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN AS A PARK FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE FOR MENTIONED.

UH, I GOT THE ELECTRIC THING, WHICH YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE AGGREGATED.

I'M WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE OUR DISTRICT AES IS INNOCENT ON THIS IT'S PGM AND FERC THAT'S CAUSING THE PROBLEM.

UH, A S IT'S.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE FEDERAL BOYS TO GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF.

I NEED YOU TO, I NEED YOU TO WRAP UP.

UH, THERE AGAIN, I WANT TO BE AS RESPECTFUL AS, AS POSSIBLE.

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ONE MORE QUESTION.

HOW ABOUT COMMUNITY PARK? YOU CERTAINLY, AREN'T GOING TO TAKE THAT AND PUT PARTMENTS AND STUFF IN THERE.

ARE YOU WELL, I KNOW.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

NUMBER EIGHT, ASSISTANTS, REGISTER TO SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY NON-MARRIED OKAY.

[9. City Manager Report]

NEXT UP IS THAT NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS A STATE MANAGER REPORT, RIGHT? THANK YOU, SIR.

A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR COUNSEL AND A COMMUNITY ATTENTION TONIGHT.

UH, WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED OUR FIRST DISTRIBUTION FROM, UH, THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT.

IT'S THE FIRST OF 18 PAYMENTS, UH, AND IT WAS FOR APPROXIMATELY $10,200.

UH, ALSO WANT TO MAKE COUNCIL AWARE THAT WE RECEIVED A FEDERAL GRANT TO ASSIST WITH OUR 9 1 1 SOFTWARE UPGRADE.

THE ORIGINAL PROJECT COST WAS 85,200.

OUR GRANT WAS APPROXIMATELY 51,100 AND THE TOTAL REMAINING COST TO US IS $34,100.

AND THEN, UH, TWO OTHER ITEMS, UH, BOTH INVOLVING OUR, UH, PARTNERS AT LWCC, UH, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH, UH, SOME OF THEIR STAFF, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, ONE REGARDING CR DAYTON.

THEY'VE MADE SOME, UH, VALUE ENGINEERING ADJUSTMENTS, UH, AND, UH, HAVE PRESENTED, UH, WE'LL CALL THEM NEARLY COMPLETE PLANS.

UH, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A MORE DETAILED BRIEFING WITH COUNCIL ON THAT, UH, IN JUST ANOTHER FEW SHORT WEEKS.

AND THEN ALSO ON THE SENIOR CENTER IN COUNCIL SPACE, UH, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED A BUILDING, UH, FOOTPRINT, UH, AND ARE GOING TO BEGIN PUTTING TOGETHER SOME, UH, PRELIMINARY, UH, INTERNAL SPACING AND LAUGHS AND THEN THERE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE IN FOR MEMBERS OF THE SENIOR CENTER, UH, BOARD AS WELL AS, UH, FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO LOOK AT THOSE, UH, LOOK AT THOSE LAYOUTS AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE GOING TO WORK AND WHETHER OR NOT ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.

SO WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS THERE.

AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, SIR, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE EXPERIENCE.

SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN AND BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, JUST FROM THE AUDIO PERSPECTIVE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, YOUR MICROPHONES ARE TURNED ON WHEN YOU SPEAK AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE CLEARLY SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR WE'RE HAVING, UH, GETTING LOTS OF EMAILS AND QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS OR WATCHING THE LIVE STREAMS ONLINE AND THEY CAN'T HEAR EVERYBODY.

SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING WELL ENOUGH INTO THE MICROPHONE.

SO THE LIVE STREAM CAN, UH, CAN PICK YOU UP A SPECIAL MAY CALL THE ROLE.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE VOTING OR GETTING THOSE MESSAGES TOO.

SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

YEAH, YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU'RE OKAY.

BUT ESPECIALLY WITH THE MASS, JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE TALKING LOUD FOR EVERYBODY CAN HEAR.

UM, TONY, DID YOU GET FEEDBACK FROM THE SHREDDING SHREDDING COMPANY ON, WE DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT THAT IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT AS, UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE PRESENT WERE AWARE.

WE HAD SOME, UH, PARTICULARLY AT THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER SITE, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BACKUP.

UH, JUST, THERE WERE SO MANY CARS THERE THAT UP TO 75 CARS IN LINE AT ONE TIME.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REWORKING SOME OF THE TRUCKS AND STUFF, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR'S EVENT OR THE NEXT TIMES EVENT, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT POUNDAGE PROVIDED THAT I EXPECT I'LL HAVE THEM BY THE NEXT.

UM, AND, AND I'M SURE THAT ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS WILL BE THAT IT MIGHT'VE BEEN A LOT EASIER IF WE HAD HAD TWO TRUCKS THERE AND, AND THAT WILL BE DRIVEN BY HOW MUCH YOU FOLKS GOT DOWN AT, UH, THOMAS CLOUD, BECAUSE IT WAS CONTINUOUS.

I MEAN, OF ALL THE YEARS WE'VE DONE THIS, IT WAS, IT WAS CONTINUOUS AND IT WAS HUGE LOADS.

BUT IT'S A LARGER EVENT THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF RESPONSE.

UM, WE COULD ALSO, UH, LOOK INTO AN, I ALREADY CHECKED WITH THE GUY WHEN I WAS DOWN THERE ON SATURDAY AT THE TIME WAS CLOUD, UH, THAT WE COULD HAVE TWO TRUCKS AT THE ROWS AND WANT IT ON HIS CLOWN.

AND THANKS EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT BECAUSE IT TRULY WAS A SUCCESS.

GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR RIGHT.

10 PENDING BUSINESS ITEM 10, A, AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL A TO PLANT INDUSTRIAL PAI AND A LOT SPLIT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 4 1 6 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PERSONAL NUMBER P 7 0 0 3 9 0 2 0 0 1 8 MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR SMASH, AND SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CASE RC 22 DASH 17 AT THE SECOND, READING BRIAN, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS SO THAN WHAT WE DISCUSSED? UH, YES, SIR.

NEXT UP WAS I NUMBER

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning From Agricultural (A) To Planned Industrial (PI) And A Lot Split For The Property Located At 9416 Taylorsville Road And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 03902 0018 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Not Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RZ 22-17). (second reading)]

AND UP TO COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION AT THE LAST WORK SESSION, UH, IT WAS, UH, NOTED THAT THIS ITEM SHOULD BE TABLED UNTIL THE AUGUST 16TH WORK SESSION

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WITH PENDING ACTION ON AUGUST 22, UH, IN LIEU OF, OR I SHOULD, UH, PENDING, UH, THE, UM, THE DISSEMINATION OF A CALL IT A COMPARISON OF THE VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION AT THIS PROPERTY.

UH, BEING IN THAT COMPARISON IS TO BE PREPARED BY MR. CRL AND HIS COMPANY.

SO I THINK, SO I THINK THE DATES THEN I'M CONFUSED.

THE RECOGNITION OF WORK SESSION WAS TO MOVE THIS IN ON THE TABLE AT TWO SEPTEMBER.

SO IT WOULD BE THE FIRST WORK SESSION SEPTEMBER.

WE WOULD, IT WOULD SHOW UP ON THAT ITEM OR THAT AGENDA AND THEN, UH, AND THEN BE VOTED ON, OR AT LEAST MOVED TO THAT, READING AT THIS AT THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.

SO, WHICH WOULD BE THE SEPTEMBER 12TH.

SORRY, MY APOLOGIES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE DATES, RIGHT.

SO THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO TABLE A, IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022 AND WOULD ACTUALLY BE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ACTION ON A ITEM 10, A TWO, A THIRD READING AT THE SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR A SECOND.

I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION.

TONY CALLED ROLL PLEASE.

THIS IS KITCHEN MR. WEBB.

IT'S BAKER.

NUMBER 11, THIS OWNER NEW BUSINESS OR CITY COUNCIL ITEMS, MR. ROGERS, I'M 11 EIGHT.

AND THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT UP AS THAT

[ A Motion To Restart The City Manager Search Process Commencing In February, 2023 Pursuant To The Baker Tilly Executive Recoupment Guaranty Whereby Baker Tilly Will Undertake The Process Charging Only For Project-Related Expenses But No Additional Professional Fees.]

I AM 11:00 AM.

MOST OF THE RESTART, THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH PROCESS COMMENCING IN FEBRUARY, 2023, PURSUANT TO THE BAKER TILLY EXECUTIVE RECOUP MINT GUARANTEE WHEREBY BAKER CHILE WILL UNDERTAKE THE PROCESS CHARGING ONLY FOR PROJECT RELATED EXPENSES, BUT NO ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL FEES.

UH, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION LAST WEEK.

AND, UM, TH TH THE MOTION WOULD JUST PUT A PAUSE ON THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH PROCESS UNTIL FEBRUARY 20, 23.

OF COURSE, IF COUNCIL HAD A CHANGE OF PLANS LEADING UP TO FEBRUARY, IT COULD ALWAYS BE CHANGED BY EMOTION, BUT THAT WOULD JUST KIND OF PAUSE THAT PROCESS AND ALLOW, UM, SOME PERIOD OF STABILITY HERE AT THE CITY.

AND, UH, TO REVISIT THAT DECISION, THEN THERE WOULD NOT BE A PENALTY, UM, AS STATED IN THE MOTION WITH BAKER, TILLY, UM, UP TO A YEAR FROM NOW, THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO RE-ENGAGE IN THAT PROCESS AT NO ADDITIONAL COST.

IS THERE A MOTION MS. BIRCH MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK A RESTART IS A BAD IDEA.

UM, I HAD MENTIONED THIS MYSELF ABOUT, I DON'T SAY ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

HOWEVER, I DON'T FEEL THAT WAITING SIX MONTHS IS APPROPRIATE.

UM, AS TONY SAID, WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE.

SO I WILL, I WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW.

AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE CITY, IN MY OPINION, TO MOVE FORWARD, SECURE A FULL-TIME CITY MANAGER, BACKFILL, THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY VACANT AND APPROVED AND MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS UNDERWAY.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH, THE DISCUSSION.

AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 11, B ITEM 11, BE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 25TH, 2022 BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE BDP 22 DASH 13.

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For July 25, 2022 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case BDP 22-13. The Applicant Is Hartman I, LLC. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Basic Development Plan And Rezoning To Planned Office (PO) For Property Located At 7611 Old Troy Pike And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 04005 0140 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

THE APPLICANT IS HARTMAN ONE, LLC.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND REZONING TO PLANT OFFICE PO FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 76, 11 OLD TROY PIKE, AND FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PERSONAL NUMBER P 7 0 0 4 0 0 5 0 1 4 0 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.

SO, UM, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE JUST A, UM, A QUICK BREATHER BECAUSE I'M HEARING THAT NONE OF THE AUDIO OR THE VIDEO IS WORKING AGAIN.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA JUST HOLD TIGHT UNTIL WE SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT BACK UP AND RUNNING.

IS NOT A FAILURE OF OUR INTERNAL EQUIPMENT.

EVERYBODY PLEASE.

WE'RE READY TO GO.

SO WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN ADVISED TO, UH, KICK IT STARTED OVER, SEE IF THAT WORKS.

UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND START THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE NOT SURE W UH, ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS ON.

WE'RE JUST NOT SURE IF IT'S STILL BEING BROADCAST THROUGH A LIVE FEED.

UH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO AND CONTINUE NOW WITH, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, WE'LL START THIS, AND THEN MR. ROGERS AND WILL LET US KNOW BY THE TIME WE GET BACK TO THE ONE, WHETHER OR NOT THE ACTUAL LIVE STREAM IS WORKING.

UM, BUT AGAIN, SO ANYBODY WHO IS LISTENING AS THIS GETS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE TOMORROW, THIS

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THIS IS AN ISSUE WITH THE ENCODING MACHINE PROVIDED BY OUR LIVESTREAM COMPANY.

THAT'S NOT BROADCASTING.

SO, UM, I, I CERTAINLY APOLOGIZE, UH, TAMRA ANYBODY, UH, AS THEY'RE WATCHING THIS TOMORROW, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO WATCH IT ON LIVE STREAM.

UM, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO WE GO LIVE, AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE WE CAN DO TO TRY TO GET TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON IT TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIX IT.

BUT AGAIN, HERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUARTER TO SEVEN ON A MONDAY NIGHT, LOVE THOSE PEOPLE HAVE GONE HOME.

SO, UH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE, BUT MY APOLOGIES TO EVERYONE WHO ISN'T ABLE TO SEE THIS LIVE, UH, WHO'S WATCHING, UH, WOULD BE TOMORROW WHEN IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.

USE IS PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED IN THE PLANNED OFFICE DISTRICT.

SO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 25TH, 2020 22, BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE BDP 22 DASH 13 IS NOW OPEN.

UH, I WOULD CALL ON SAY STAFF TO MAKE OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION, WHICH THIS EVENING, MR. , HOW ARE YOU, SIR? I'M GOOD.

MAYOR.

HOW ARE YOU? UM, WELL, THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, AARON SWALE, INTERIM CITY PLANNER WITH THE CITY HE WRITES.

SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

UH, THIS IS, UH, THE, UH, HE BRIDES A MEDICAL FACILITY IS A, UH, APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND REZONING FROM A PLAN COMMERCIAL TO PLANT OFFICE.

THE SITE IS 1.1 ACRES.

UH, IT IS THE LAND USE IS RETAIL.

THE SITE IN QUESTION IS A SORT OF MARGINAL UNUSED PARKING, UH, OUTDOOR STORAGE AND DISPLAY.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING TO PLANT OFFICE TO CONSTRUCT, UH, JUST UNDER 11,000 SQUARE FOOT EMERGENCY OUTPUT, UH, OUTPATIENT MEDICAL FACILITY, UH, WHICH HAS 10 EXAM ROOMS, ABOUT 15 EMPLOYEES.

UM, AND, UH, WILL THEY ANTICIPATE 30 TO 40 PATIENTS, UH, INITIALLY PER DAY, UH, UPWARDS OF 50 TO 60 DAILY.

WHEN, UH, ONCE IT'S ESTABLISHED HERE IS A SITE IN QUESTION, UH, THIS IS TAYLORSVILLE OLD TROY PIKE HERE.

UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING RURAL KING IT'S, UH, BASICALLY IN THEIR PARKING LOT.

UM, ONCE IT WILL BE SPLIT OUT, UM, THE, UH, CASE WAS HEARD BY PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, IN APRIL OF 2022, UH, THEN CAME BACK TO, OR CAME TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, WAS THEN REMANDED BACK TO, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION WITH SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ACCESS POINTS ALONG TAYLORSVILLE.

UM, THE SITE HAS SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVED SINCE THEN, AND, UH, I THINK THE UPDATES ADDRESS MOST OF THE CONCERNS.

UM, SO SOME OF THE PROJECT UPDATES OR SITE PLAN UPDATES, UM, THERE WAS A, UH, A LARGER GROUND SIGN THAT'S BEEN RELOCATED TO THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SITE.

UM, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE APPLICANTS WORKED WITH RURAL KING TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING CURB CUT ON TAYLORSVILLE, UH, WHICH WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR A SECOND OR A REALLY THIRD CURB CUT.

THAT WOULD BE, UH, IN THAT SECTION.

SO THE CURB CUTS THERE ON TAYLORSVILLE WOULD BE THE CURRENT BANK, UH, AND THEN THE EXISTING, UH, WORLD KING OR, UM, ACCESS POINT.

UM, AT CLOSING RURAL KING WILL RECORD A BLANKET COVENANT, UM, GRANTING UNOBSTRUCTED, VEHICULAR, AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE DRIVE ISLES, UH, SURROUNDING THE SITE.

SO THERE WILL BE, UH, UNFETTERED ACCESS, UH, TO THAT SITE.

OTHER ITEMS OR ISSUES THAT KIND OF HAS SPRUNG UP, UH, AS A RESULT OF THIS CASE WAS DEALING WITH THE, UH, OUTDOOR SALES, UH, AND STORAGE THAT HAD GROWN OVER THE YEARS SINCE THE ORIGINAL PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, APPROVAL.

UM, THE RURAL KING IS MAKING PROGRESS, UM, SLOWLY, UH, WITH COMPLYING WITH THOSE OUTDOOR STORAGE REQUIREMENTS.

THEY ARE SLOWLY CONSOLIDATING BACK WITHIN THE ORIGINAL, UM, APPROVED PARAMETERS THAT THIS CASE ALSO THEN TRIGGERED, UH, ENFORCEMENT ACTION ON OTHER PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UH, INCLUDING KROGER, WHICH IS, WILL BE COMING TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE NEXT WEEK TO, UH, HAVE SOME OF THEIR OUTDOOR STORAGE, UH, OR SALES, UH, REVIEWED HERE'S THE REVISED SITE PLAN.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE ACCESS MAIN ACCESS IS OFF OF TAYLORSVILLE.

THERE WILL BE A DRY ACCESS ALONG THE EXISTING DRIVE AISLE.

UM, THE, THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE, UM, PROVIDED, UM, THERE IS ACCESS POINTS AGAIN TO THE NORTH, UH, DRIVE AISLES AS WELL.

UH, THE MECHANICS, UH, MECHANICALS WILL, WILL BE SCREENED, UH, THIS, THE REZONING, UH, AND THE SITE PLAN LARGELY, UM, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING CODE.

HERE'S THE SITE KIND OF IN PERSPECTIVE OF THE REST OF, OF THE RURAL KING PARKING LOT.

SO AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS, UH, THE PROPOSED

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UM, THERE IS A 15 FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER YARD THAT IS PROVIDED IN THE REVISED SITE PLAN.

UH, THE SITE PLAN GENERALLY MEETS, UH, CHAPTER 1181 REQUIRED, UH, REQUIREMENTS.

UH, ONCE WE GET TO THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR WHEN WE GET TO THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, WHICH THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED, UM, EXTERIOR LIGHTING, MECHANICAL SCREENING AND STREET TREES HAVE ALL BEEN ADDRESSED AND, AND MEET, UM, MEET THE CODE.

UM, AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING, LIKE I SAID, I'M ON THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE WERE AREAS IDENTIFIED FOR LANDSCAPE ISLANDS.

UM, FURTHER DETAIL HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, AND IT DOES, IT DOES MEET ALL OF OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

AS FAR AS PARKING.

THE USE REQUIRES 45 SPACES.

UH, 50 ARE ILLUSTRATED IN THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UH, THERE HAVE BEEN NO NEW SIGNAGE UPDATES, UM, BEYOND THE LOCATION OF THE, OF THE GROUND SIGN.

UH, ORIGINALLY IT WAS AN EIGHT FOOT TALL GROUND SIGN BECAUSE OF THE GRADE CHANGE YOU HAD, UH, WEST ON TAYLORSVILLE THAT HAS BEEN REDUCED TO A SIX FOOT, UH, SIGN IN THEIR DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE.

UM, OTHERWISE, UH, EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME AS WAS PERMIT OR WAS, UM, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION, OR YOU CAN SEE THE DETAILS OR THE, UM, THE ILLUSTRATIONS OF POTENTIAL SIGNAGE.

THERE ARE, UM, FOUR EMERGENCY SIGNS AND THEN THREE, UM, CORPORATE BRANDING LOGOS ON THE BUILDING, AS FAR AS THE STAFF ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION.

UM, I FELT THAT THE APPROVAL, UH, OUTLINED IN 11 71 0 6 CAN BE MET AND RECOMMENDED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE REZONING FROM PLANNED, UM, COMMERCIAL TO PLAN OFFICE WITH THESE SEVEN CONDITIONS.

ONE THAT THE STREET TREES SHOULD BE PLACED EVERY 40 FEET ALONG TAYLORSVILLE, WHICH IS TO CODE THAT THE COMPLY WITH THE SCREENING OF THE SERVICE STRUCTURES, THE LIGHTING STANDARDS, LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING, UM, AND THE WALLS.

CAN IT BE SIGNS THAT, THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BE, UM, CONTINUE, UM, WHICH, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED ON APRIL 12TH, BUT THE GROUND SIDES NOT EXCEED SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND THE APPLICANT, UH, WILL, UH, COMPLY WITH ALL FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE THREE TO, TO, UH, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING AND THE, UH, THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THOSE SEVEN CONDITIONS INCLUDED QUESTIONS OF ME.

SO WE'LL GET TO SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AS WE GET THROUGH THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA, BUT THIS TIME I WOULD CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE OF HARTMAN, LLC, HARTMAN ONE, LLC, TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN OF, UM, BY THE PLANNER.

AND GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

UM, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY FORMAL COMMENTS.

UH, WHILE DIRECTOR, IS THERE ANY, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE KIND OF FILLING IN FOR JURY.

HE DIDN'T, WAS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT? OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE THIS EVENING? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE THIS EVENING? OKAY.

NEXT I WOULD CALL ANY MEMBERS OF THE HEBREW RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

NANCY.

UM, AARON, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE HEARD IS, IS ROCKING, LEASING THAT PROPERTY NO RURAL KING OWNS THAT PROPERTY.

AND SO THE SALES AGREEMENT FOR THIS 1.1 ACRE SITE IS BETWEEN, UM, THE APPLICANT AND RURAL KING, UM, OUT OF ILLINOIS.

AND WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH BOTH THE STORE MANAGER, AS WELL AS THEIR REAL ESTATE LEGAL COUNSEL ABOUT THE STORAGE ISSUES ONSITE.

I, I JUST, I HAD NEVER HEARD THAT AND I WAS WONDERING WHY THEY HAD TO ADJUST THEIR COVENANT.

SO, YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES ANYONE IN COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR AARON OR THE APPLICANT NON THANK YOU.

MA'AM AARON, THE STREET TREES THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO PUT ON TAYLORSVILLE ROAD? WELL, THOSE EXTEND ALL THE WAY DOWN THE RURAL KING PROPERTY DRIVEWAY.

NO, AT THIS POINT IT IS, UH, JUST IN FRONT OF THEIR SITE.

FOOT ON CENTER RATHER THAN 40 FOOT ON CENTER.

UM, WE CAN, THEY ARE ACTUALLY, UH, WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS, UH, UM, STREET TREES THAT ARE EXCEED OUR REQUIREMENT.

UH, THEY'VE SUBMITTED A 25

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WE CAN MAYBE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, UM, IF WE JUST WANT TO SPREAD THEM OUT.

UM, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF TREES IS IT'S ABOUT THE SAME.

THANK YOU, DON.

I MEAN, SO I KNOW THAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO PICTURE MY MIND HOW THAT WOULD LOOK TO JUST A NICE ROAD TREES AND THEN I'LL THEN NOTHING.

IS THAT A RECOMMENDATION OR SUGGESTION TO, TO DO THAT, TO SPREAD THAT OUT? IS IT SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OR YES.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE AGREEMENT'S GOING TO BE, AS FAR AS, UH, YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE STIPULATIONS ON THE SHARED ACCESS THAT RURAL KING WILL PROVIDE COMING UP THERE, BUT I THINK FOR AESTHETIC REASONS, IT WOULD BE, UM, MUCH MORE ACCEPTABLE TO HAVE THOSE TREES SPACED OUT, DOWN TO THE ENTRANCE.

I THINK WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE IS IF, UH, BECAUSE IT IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IS MAYBE WE STAGGER ROOM, UH, WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.

UM, BECAUSE I, MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE'RE OKAYING KING IS NOT A PARTNER TO, TO THIS, THAT, UH, THROUGH BENIGN NEGLECT, THEY ARE NOT MAINTAINED MARK.

AARON, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA REGARDING ROLL KING AND IF THEY HAVE ANY PLANS ON CLOSING OR DO THEY INTEND ON STAYING IN THE BUSINESS FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ATTORNEY LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT THEY INTEND TO STAY IN BUSINESS.

I THINK THEY'RE DOING WELL.

UM, THEY HAVE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT STAFFING ISSUES AS FAR AS TURNOVER AND LOCAL MANAGEMENT, WHICH HAS LED TO, UM, SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND, AND KIND OF THE, THE, UM, DELAY IN MA MAKING FULL COMPLIANCE.

BUT I GET NO INDICATION THAT IN MY CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO LEAVE.

AND BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT WOULD CONTRADICT THAT IN ANY WAY? I DO NOT SERVE FROM NO INDICATION WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE CORPORATE OFFICE WOULD LEAD US TO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE CLOSING SHOP ANY TIME SOON.

AARON, WHEN I LOOK AT THE ARIEL, ALL OF THE GOODS THAT ARE OUTSIDE ARE GOING TO ENCUMBER THE PARKING ONCE THE OFFICE IS BUILT, IS THAT FAIRLY ACCURATE? UM, WELL, ONCE THE OFFICE IS BUILT, UM, THIS IS REALLY WHAT THEY WERE APPROVED ORIGINALLY TO HAVE, AS FAR AS OUTDOORS DISPLAY, THEY'VE JUST GROWN OVER THE YEARS.

SO AT THE, WHEN THIS OCCURS, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, CONDENSE WHAT, WHAT THEY HAVE YEAH.

BE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO RUN ON A PARKING SPACES.

CORRECT.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH PARKING.

THIS IS STILL ALL OF THEIR PARKING UP HERE THAT'S AVAILABLE.

SO I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE OF PARKING ABSENT OF CHRISTMAS EVE, UM, THAT, THAT THERE REALLY WILL BE A STRAIN ON, ON THIS SITE.

SO I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF THE OFFICE BUILDING, WILL THAT IN ITSELF REQUIRE THEM TO CLEAN UP YES.

AND MINIMIZE WHAT THEY HAVE OUT IN THE PARKING LOT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE S THE OUTDOOR STORAGE BASICALLY GOES UP TO ABOUT RIGHT HERE.

SO BY SELLING THE LAND, THEY WILL BE FORCED TO CONDENSE WHAT THEY HAVE.

AND HAS ANY OF THAT DISCUSSION TAKING PLACE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION? WE DISCUSSED IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DIDN'T GET INTO ANY DETAIL ON TIMING OR HOW THAT WOULD WORK AT ALL.

BUT I THINK THERE IS RECOGNITION THAT THIS WILL, THAT THE, THE AREA OF OUTDOOR DISPLAY WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT IS THERE NOW.

AND, AND BRIAN STAFF IS WORKING WITH ROLL KING, AND WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW AND MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEANED UP.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE ALL THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US TO BRING THIS, UH, OUTDOOR DISPLAY AREA INTO SOME SORT OF, UM, MORE APPEALING, UH, FORMAT.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE, UM, UH, FROM THE ZONING DIVISION PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION, UH, AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLKS THEY'VE BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH BOTH THE LOCAL MANAGER, AS WELL AS WITH THE CORPORATE OFFICE IN AN ATTEMPT TO KIND OF BRING THAT OUTDOOR STORAGE AREA INTO A QUICKER COMPLIANCE THAN WHAT THE SALE WOULD, UH, WHEN WE ARE CONTINUING TO PREPARE OURSELVES TO ADVANCE COMPLIANCE, IF WE NEED TO, BEYOND THE SALE.

UM, AND PERHAPS, MAYBE IN AN UNWILLINGNESS TO COMPLY IN SHORT ORDER, UH, WE'VE ALSO STARTED A CONVERSATION INTERNALLY, UH, ONE THAT MR. SARAN AND I HAVE YET TO HAVE, UM, ON A FORMAL BASIS, BUT, UH, WITH THE SALE OF THIS LOT, UM, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE ORIGINAL, UH, PUD, UH, FOR RURAL KING? AND DOES THIS TRANSITION OF, DOES THIS TRANSACTION, UM, ENABLE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MORE ACCURATELY DEFINE OR REDEFINE, UH, THE OUTDOOR STORAGE THAT'S THERE? SO

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SO IF SOMEONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORAGE BEING AN ISSUE TODAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX TO MAKE SURE THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF.

I NEED A, ARE THEY ABLE TO USE THAT SIDE AREA FOR THAT OUTDOOR STORAGE INSTEAD OF THE FRONT, BECAUSE KMART BACK WHEN THEY DIDN'T, THEY HAD THE SPRING THING, IT WAS OVER TO THE SIDE IS WHERE THEY ALWAYS HAD IT IS THAT'S A POSSIBILITY INSTEAD OF HAVING IT UP FRONT.

THERE IT IS.

I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE ENGAGE THEM FURTHER, UM, ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, UH, IF THEY WANT TO, UH, UH, STORAGE BEYOND WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED TO HAVE, I THINK THAT, THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SIDE MOVING, SOME OF IT TO THE SIDE IS A NATURAL PROGRESSION.

UH, THEY HAVE MOVED SOME OF THEIR TRAILERS.

THEY HAVE MOVED SOME STUFF OFF, OFF THERE, AND TO THE, TO THE REAR, INTO THE SIDE, BUT IT CAN BE UTILIZED MORE FULLY THAN IT IS.

AND THE FOLLOW-UP FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, SINCE THIS WON'T COME BACK TO US WITH A DETAIL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, SPEAK, AARON, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT, THAT THE LINE OF SIGHT GOING OUT ON D TAYLORSVILLE DOES MAINTAIN THAT, THAT DOESN'T GET BLOCKED BY ANY TREES OR WHATEVER THEY PUT IN, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE CHALLENGING GETTING OUT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, DON.

MA'AM SORRY, AARON, JUST ONE MORE.

YOU MENTIONED THAT IN YOUR OPINION, RURAL KING WILL STILL HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR RURAL KING'S PURPOSES.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THE PREVIOUSLY ALLOTTED PARKING THAT WAS GRANTED TO HIGH HOP IHOPS, OVERFLOW PARKING, UH, ARE THERE, UH, I HOP WAS PERMITTED WITH THE STIPULATION THAT RURAL KING'S PARKING LOT WOULD BE USED FOR THEIR, YEAH.

THAT THAT DOES NOT CHANGE.

AND THIS WILL NOT CHANGE IHOPS, UH, OVERFLOW PARKING WHATSOEVER THAT THAT'S STILL IS, UH, MEMORIALIZED IN, IN SHOULD NOT IMPACT THE SHOULD NOT IMPACT.

I HOP AT ALL.

SO A RURAL KING BY NATURE OF THEIR BUSINESS, RURAL CARRYING WALL HAVE, UM, PARKING THAT WOULD MEET OUR CODE FOR THAT TYPE OF RETAIL BUSINESS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR AARON OR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

ONE LAST TIME.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE PRESENT, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING CASE? OKAY.

MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I MEANT TO ASK THIS.

I FORGOT, BUT NOW MY MEMORY CAME BACK TO ME.

CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT SIDES GO BACK TO THE PICTURE AND SHOW ME WHAT SIDES THE, UM, THE SIGNAGE WILL BE ON FOR THE BUILDING.

SO IT'S VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

UH, ESSENTIALLY IT WILL, UM, BE HERE.

WELL, WHAT WILL BE ON THE BUILDING? WHAT SIDE IS THAT ON FACE TAYLORSVILLE BASEBALL.

TROY, ABOUT THE BUILDING SIGNS ONE, WE'LL SAY EMERGENCY, BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE THEIR LOGO ON IT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, LET ME GO TO THAT.

SO THERE WILL BE, UM, A CORPORATE LOGO AND EMERGENCY THAT FIT THAT DO THAT BOTH FACE TAYLORSVILLE.

AND THERE'LL BE SOMETHING, A TREE FACING THERE WILL BE AS WELL AS ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.

ANYONE PRESENT WHO IS JUST SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR AS IN A CASE.

11, SEEK CORRECT ITEM 11, C A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 25TH, 2022 BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR MJC 22 DASH 21.

MARTIN, FURTHER COMMENTS, PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE BDP 22 DASH 13 IS HERE BY CLOSED.

ARE WE STILL AUDIO? YEP.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For July 25, 2022 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case MJC 22-21. The Applicant Is Skilken Gold Real Estate Development. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Major Change To The Basic Development Plan To Construct A 6,138 Square Foot Convenience Store With Fueling Pumps And Carwash For Property Located At The Northeast Corner Of Old Troy Pike And Taylorsville Road And Further Described As Parcel Numbers P70 04005 0015 And P70 04005 0043 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

THE APPLICANT IS SKILL CAN GOLD REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO CONSTRUCT A 6,138 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE WITH FUELING PUMPS AND CARWASH FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF OLD TROY PIKE AT TAYLORSVILLE ROAD FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PERSONAL NUMBERS, P 7 0 0 4 0 0 5 0 0 1 5 AND P 7 0 0 4 0 0 5 0 0 4 3

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ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITORS MAP.

NORTHBOUND LANE THAT, THAT IS BEING ADDED.

AND FOR EVERYONE HERE, WE'RE GOING TO GET USED TO HEARING THIS PROCEDURE.

WE HAVE A FEW MORE OF THESE THIS EVENING.

SO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 25TH, 2022 BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE MJC 22 DASH 21 IS NOW OPEN.

AND I WOULD CALL OUR CITY STAFF AGAIN, MR. SARELL TO MAKE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.

GREAT.

UM, SO THIS IS, UH, UH, APPROVAL OF A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE SITE IN QUESTION IS 2.82 ACRES.

IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN MIXED USE.

IT IS VACANT LAND IT'S DOWN THE STREET.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE BEEN DILIGENTLY CLEARING THE LOT.

UM, JASON ZONING IS PLANNED MIXED USE TO THE NORTH ARE SIX APARTMENT BUILDINGS TO THE EAST.

UH, SINGLE FAMILY ZONING ARE FOUR TO THE SOUTH AND THEN PLAYING COMMERCIAL, WHICH WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT TO THE WEST.

UM, THE ORIGINAL BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED MAY 11TH, 2021.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO CONSTRUCT A ROUGHLY 6,000 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE WITH A FUELING PUMPS AND A 1600 SQUARE FOOT CARWASH.

THE MAJOR CHANGE APPLICATION WAS REQUESTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ALLOW CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS THE SITE IN QUESTION ON THE, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER OF TAYLORSVILLE AND OLD TROY PIKE.

UH, THIS IS THE APPROVED BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UH, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE WEST EDGE, OR EXCUSE ME, THE SOUTH EDGE OF THIS SITE.

IN ADDITION TO THE USES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED IN THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE WERE, UM, TWO TENANT ID SIGNS, UM, MULTI-TENANT ID SIGNS THAT WERE APPROVED AS WELL AS A GENERAL, UH, COMMUNITY ID SIGN.

UM, THE SMALLER SIGN WAS HERE AT THE CORNER.

UH, THE LARGEST SIGN IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF OLD TROY PIKE.

AND THEN THE MEDIUM MULTITENANT SIDE IS, UH, IN THE MIDDLE HERE AT TAYLORSVILLE.

THE, UH, WHAT'S, WHAT IS REALLY, UH, ABOUT THIS CASE, UM, FOR THE MAJOR CHANGE IS TWO ADDITIONAL GROUND SIGNS BEING, UM, PROPOSED THE ORIGINAL, UM, BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAD NINE CONDITIONS.

UH, I'M ONLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THEM, BUT THEY RELATED THE LAND, USE TRANSPORTATION AND SIGNAGE.

UH, AS FAR AS LAND USE, THE ALLOWABLE REESE, UH, USES WHERE RETAIL OFFICE, COMMERCIAL PLACEMENT SERVICE, COMMERCIAL FILLING STATIONS AND SERVICE STATIONS.

UM, THE DEVELOPER, UH, HAS, IS MAKING WILL MAKE SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE, UH, INCLUDING WHITING OF THE NORTH SIDE OF TAYLORSVILLE ROAD TO ADD A RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE OR REALLY EXTEND THE EXISTING RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE.

UH, THEY WILL BE WIDENING THE EAST SIDE OF OLD TROY PIKE TO ADD A SIXTH LANE.

UH, THERE'LL BE NEUTRAL, A NEW SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, UM, ON OLD TROY PIKE AND THEN ACCESS EASEMENTS, UH, ARE BEING GRANTED TO FILL, UH, FACILITATE THE VACATION OF HUBER ROAD.

SO I'M GOING TO GO INTO, I THINK THIS WAS A SOURCE OF CONFUSION.

UM, SO I'M GOING TO GO INTO SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE.

SO THIS IS TAYLORSVILLE ROAD HERE.

UH, THE INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE STAYS THE SAME.

IT'S A, IT'S A FOUR LANE SECTION.

UH, THERE IS ONE EASTBOUND, UH, AND THREE, UH, WESTBOUND, UH, LANES.

THE IMPROVEMENTS HERE ARE WHERE THE, THIS, UH, THIS RIGHT-AWAY, UH, IT GETS ENLARGED TO WHERE THERE IS A RIGHT RIGHT-HAND TURN NOW A SECOND, RIGHT, OR A FULL RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE, UH, FROM HERE DOWN TO ULTRA PIKE.

SO INSTEAD OF A THREE LANE SECTION ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, THERE WILL BE A FOUR, A FOUR LANE ROAD SECTION.

UH, YOU CAN JUST LAY THAT OVER.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THIS WORKS.

THIS IS THE NEW CURVING, THIS IS THE EXISTING, UH, RIGHT AWAY RIGHT NOW, IT GETS PUSHED BACK.

UH, AND SO THERE WILL BE A FULL RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE, UH, HEADING WEST SIMILARLY ON, UH, OLD TROY PIKE.

UH, THERE IS A, THERE IS A, A FULL LANE OF BEING ADDED RIGHT NOW.

TAYLORSVILLE IS A FIVE LANE SECTION.

UH, THERE ARE TWO NORTHBOUND LANES, UH, TWO SOUTHBOUND LANES, AS WELL AS THE CENTER TURN LANE.

UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, NOW A SIX LANE SECTION WITH, UH, THREE NORTHBOUND LANES AND TWO SOUTHBOUND LANES.

UH, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, THIS IS THE EXISTING CURVE LINE AS IT IS NOW.

THIS WILL BE THE NEW CURB LINE.

UH, AND SO THERE'S A WHOLE NEW

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SO WE CAN GO FURTHER NORTH, UH, SAME THING, THIS, UH, FULL, UH, NEW LANE, UH, NORTHBOUND.

THIS WILL BE A FULL, UM, FULL MOVEMENT INTERCHANGE, A NEW SIGNALIZED INTERCHANGE HERE.

THIS IS BURGER KING.

UM, SO THERE WILL BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT WILL HELP MEET HER, UH, TRAFFIC, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND.

ALSO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER TO GET OUT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, AT THIS LOCATION, THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL, UH, EXTEND UP TO JUST PASSWORD.

THE EXISTING HUBER, UH, ROAD IS, UH, THE CITY WILL THEN PICK THEM UP, UH, AND TAKE IT UP TO WAVERLY WHERE NORTH OF WAVERLY ALREADY IS A SIX LANE SECTION, UH, WHICH THEN ALSO WIDENS TO A SEVEN LANE SECTION, UH, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE INTERCHANGE.

SO, AS I SAID, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO CONSTRUCT A, UH, JUST SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN 6,000 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE, A FEELING CENTER AND THE CARWASH.

UM, SO THE ONLY REAL MAJOR CHANGE THAT'S NEEDED IS THE APPROVAL OF THE TWO GROUND SIGNS FOR THE FOUR SHEETS.

UH, THE USES ARE PERMITTED UNDER THE EXISTING BASIC DEVELOPED PLAN.

I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THIS IS THE MAIN SHEETS BUILDING HERE.

UH, THESE ARE THE FIELD CANOPIES.

UH, THE, THERE ARE THE ENTRANCES ON THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

DO NOT CHANGE.

THESE ARE EXISTING TRAVEL LANES, THEY'RE USING THOSE TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.

UH, THIS IS THE CARWASH THAT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED CARWASH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE.

THROW AWAY JUST SOME ELEVATIONS.

SO YOU GET A PERSPECTIVE OF THE, THE BUILDING, UH, IT'S CLAD IN BRICK AND STONE, UH, WHICH MEETS OUR MATERIALS REQUIREMENTS.

THIS WOULD BE THE, UH, WEST ELEVATION.

THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM, UH, UH, ULTRA PIKE.

THE, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION CAME IN WITH WHAT I WOULD CALL A STANDARD GAS STATION SIGN A BASICALLY A 30 FOOT PYLON SIGN, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY REVISED THIS SIGN TO CA TO KEEP THE, OR CARRY FORWARD THE SIGNED DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF BROAD REACH DEVELOPMENT.

SO, UH, IT HAS NOW MOVED TO A, UM, FROM A 30 FOOT PYLON SIGN TO A SIX FOOT, 10 INCH ROUND MOUNTED SIGN WITH A STONE BASE.

UM, SO A SIGNIFICANT, VAST IMPROVEMENT, UH, AS FAR AS WHAT WE WOULD SEE BOTH ON OLD TROY PIKE.

UH, AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, UH, ON THE, ON TAYLORSVILLE, WHICH HAS A MUCH GREATER DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL, UM, USES AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS.

UM, THE PROPOSED USES ARE PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED IN THE PLANNED, UM, MIXED USE DISTRICT.

THE PROPOSAL ALSO GENERALLY MEETS ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.

THE TWO, UH, GROUND MOUNTED SIGNS ARE THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES NECESSARY FOR THE, UM, BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, LANDSCAPING BE ADDRESSED DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPED PLAN AS PROPOSED UNDER CODE.

THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES 49 SPACES, UH, AND AT LEAST FIVE STACKING SPACES FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH.

THE INITIAL SITE PLAN, UH, INDICATES OR ILLUSTRATES, UH, 53 SPACES, INCLUDING A SHARED SPACES FOR THE BATHROOMS BY THE, UH, BY THE CARWASH, AS WELL AS, UH, BASICALLY 10 SPACES TO S UH, TO STACK, UM, THE FINAL PARKING LOT OR PARKING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE DETERMINED AT THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PHASE, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE INTERNAL PROGRAMMING OR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONVENIENCE STORES, LESS COOLER SPACE, OFFICE SPACE, ET CETERA.

SO 53 SPACES IS THE MAXIMUM THAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED.

IT WILL PROBABLY BE LESS THAN THAT.

THE ELEVATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE BUILDING MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, OTHER CONSIDERATION.

SO WE ASKED THEM TO, UM, UPDATE THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY BASED ON THE CHANGE OF USE, UH, TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE RATHER THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED, WHICH WAS THE BANK AND A MEDICAL OFFICE, AND THEN A VACANT LOT.

UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS NO MATERIAL CHANGE, UH, TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

UH, IN FACT, IN SOME AREAS, THE DELAYS ARE A LITTLE SHORTER.

NOW THEY'RE A LITTLE SHORTER BY LIKE HALF A SECOND OR A 10TH OF A SECOND, BUT THIS USE DOES NOT, UH, INCREASE, UH, ANY OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT ARE, THAT ARE THERE.

UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

UH, IN A SECOND, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE ALL OF THE REQUESTED FIRE TO BART APARTMENT CHANGES, WHICH REALLY

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WAS ABOUT CANOPY HEIGHT AND TURNING RADIUS.

ALL OF THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED.

THE SYDNEY ENGINEER EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE EAST PARKING, UH, AND HAVING A BACK INTO A DRIVE AISLE, UH, AND THEN CAN EXPRESS SOME CONCERN ABOUT DRIVE-THROUGH CUSTOMERS GOING FROM THEM, ORDERING BOARDS ACROSS THE DRIVE AISLE, UH, TO THE PICKUP WINDOW.

SO LET ME GET INTO THE, SOME OF THESE ISSUES A LITTLE BIT, UM, DEEPER.

SO AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS THAT THIS IS, UH, THAT THE NUMBERS THAT THAT WERE USED, UM, IS THAT THIS 76% OF THE TRAFFIC INTO THE SITE IS PASSED BY TRACK.

UH, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT'S TRAFFIC ALREADY ON THE ROAD.

UH, AND THOSE CARS ARE PASSING BY AND WE'LL COME INTO THE SITE, BUT THE SITE IS NOT GENERATING TRAFFIC.

UM, THERE ARE ONLY 38 IN AND OUT TRIPS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GENERATED BY THIS USE THE REST OF THE TRIPS FOR PEAK HOUR.

THOSE CARS ARE ALREADY THERE.

THOSE FOLKS ARE GOING TO WORK AND THEY'RE PASSING BY, OR THEY'RE COMING HOME FROM WORK AND THEY'RE PASSING BY AND THEY'RE STOPPING IN VERY RARELY DO PEOPLE JUST GO TO THE GAS STATION.

I MEAN, THIS 38 REPRESENT THESE 38 IN AND OUT TRIPS REPRESENT THOSE FOLKS ARE GOING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BEER, THE PIZZA, THE FOOD, OR OCCASIONALLY GAS, BUT CONVENIENCE STORES ARE NOT HUGE TRAFFIC GENERATORS, UH, AS FAR AS NEW TRIPS.

SO I WANTED TO, UM, MAKE THAT POINT.

THIS IS TOUGH TO READ.

I JUST REALIZED.

UM, BUT THIS IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, CALCULATION, AS FAR AS THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL THREE USES THAT WERE POSED COMPARED TO THE, THE CONVENIENCE STORE USE AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, IS THAT IN MANY CASES, SO THIS IS YOUR 22, 20 22.

SO IF IT WERE BUILT TODAY, UM, THIS WOULD, UM, THESE ARE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE DOES NOT MATERIALLY CHANGE AT ALL.

WHAT WAS A C OR A, B STAYS, A C OR A B, THERE ARE MINOR IMPROVEMENTS, BUT AGAIN, THE DELAY IS AN IMPROVEMENT OF HALF A SECOND.

UM, WHAT DID COME UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION WAS IN 2042, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS THAT FAIL, UH, PARTICULARLY ON, UM, AT OLD TROY PIKE AND TAYLORSVILLE, BUT THEY FAIL REGARDLESS OF THIS USE.

UM, SO THIS USE IS NOT CAUSING THESE INTERSECTIONS TO HAVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE, GREAT F IT'S JUST DUE TO THE NATURAL GROWTH OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR.

UH, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT, UH, THE CITY ENGINEERS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT BABIES.

BASICALLY, PEOPLE EITHER PULLING INTO HER BACKING OUT INTO TRAVEL LANES.

UM, THIS SITE IS NOT UNIQUE AS FAR AS HAVING PARKING ALONG TRAVEL LANES.

UH, THIS IS, UM, UH, IN KETTERING, THE SHOPS ACADEMY AND JUST WHAT'S THAT YES, TOWN AND COUNTRY.

UH, ARE MADISON HEIGHT AND DESIGNED IN A COMPLIMENTARY MANNER, UM, TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND DEVELOPMENT SIGNS THAT ARE THERE KEYBOARD AS I'M WORKING.

AND YOU CAN SEE QUITE A LOT OF SPACES THAT ARE BACKING INTO AND OUT OF TRAVEL LANES.

UH, THIS IS THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT IS JUST NORTH OF THE SITE, UM, JUST NORTH OF WHERE, UM, THE, THE LANES, THE PARKING SPACES ALL BACK INTO, IN AND OUT OF TRAVELING.

SO THIS IS, UH, NOT A UNIQUE SITUATION.

THE APPLICANT ALSO HAVE FIELDS THAT THEY'RE, THE DRIVE-THRU CUSTOMERS ARE NOT GOING TO CAUSE, OR, OR REALLY LEAD TO ANY CONGESTION OR STACKING ONLY 10% OF THEIR CUSTOMERS OR SALES ARE RELATED TO THE DRIVE THROUGH.

SO AS FAR AS STAFF'S ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION, UM, AGAIN, THE APPLICATION WAS INITIATED THE REQUEST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, SO THE COUNCIL COULD REVIEW AND, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, STAFF FEELS THAT THE MAJOR CHANGE REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT MEETS THE STANDARDS, UH, OUTLINED IN CHAPTER 1170 1.06, UM, OR THESE FOLLOWING REASONS, ONE THAT THE USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE APPROVED BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT ALL SITE ACCESS LOCATIONS, INTERIOR CORRIDORS REMAIN UNCHANGED, UM, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUEL FUELING STATION, UM, DOES NOT RESULT IN ANY REAL SIGNIFICANT OR ACTUALLY ANY DELAYS OR, OR, UM, DECLINE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, AT THOSE VARIOUS INTERSECTIONS.

UH, AND THE TWO GROUND MOUNTED STEINS,

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SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

ONE THAT ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY, UH, UH, IMPOSED IN MAY OF 2021 REMAIN IN EFFECT THAT THE TWO ADDITIONAL GROUND MOUNTED, UH, GAS PRICE SIGNS NOT EXCEED SIX FOOT, 10 INCHES, THE APPLICANT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL ENGINEERING BUILDING FIRE CODES, AND THE APPLICANT SHALL UPDATE THE BASIC DEVELOPED PLAN TO REFLECT ANY CONDITIONS IMPOSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THERE WERE NONE, UH, THIS, THIS CONDITION WOULD THEN FALL TO, TO COUNSEL IF THERE WERE ANY CONDITION, ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS AND POSTS BY COUNCIL, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO APPROVE THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THREE TO TWO, UH, TRAFFIC WAS THE BIGGEST DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING.

THANKS HERE.

UH, SO NEXT WE CALL IT REPRESENTATIVES OF SKULK AND GOLD REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, OR JUST BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

SO NEXT TIME I CALL THEM THE LAW DIRECTOR.

MAKE ANY COMMENTS, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE LAW DIRECTOR? NO.

MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

IS THERE A PRESIDENT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE, GUYS, OUR OWN PRESIDENT WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR SET IN CASE.

NEXT I WOULD CALL NUMBERS OF HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, I THINK, YES.

AARON, UM, ON TAYLORSVILLE, HOW WIDE ARE THE SIDEWALKS GOING TO BE THAT RUN DOWN THERE? YEAH, THEY WILL BE A FIVE FEET, WHICH IS WHAT OUR CODE REQUIRES ON THOROUGHFARE SEAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? YES.

NONE.

MA'AM UM, AARON, YOUR SLIDE NUMBER 21 OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TRAFFIC STUDY.

UM, DELAYS ARE REDUCED IN MOST INSTANCES COMPARED TO THREE PRIOR USES.

WHAT ARE THOSE THREE PRIOR USES? THE THREE PRIOR USES? UM, WE'RE A, UH, A BANK, UM, A MEDICAL FACILITY AND THEN AN UNKNOWN, UH, OFFICE USER I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

SO BASICALLY THREE OFFICE USES.

I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS WHAT THE PREVIOUS PROPOSED.

UM, IT WAS OKAY.

AND I GUESS SHOOTING FROM THE HIP HERE, AARON, SINCE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A, AN ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC, CAN WE GET AARON'S OPINION ON, UM, TRAFFIC WITH THIS? SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A MATERIAL, UM, IMPACT FROM TRAFFIC BASED ON THIS USE.

UM, AS THE STUDY SHOWED 76% OF THOSE CARS ARE ALREADY THERE.

UM, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT AN OFFICE USE DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON TAYLORSVILLE OR OLD TROY PIKE THAN WOULD BE DEVELOPED ARE MORE BE CAUSED BY THIS PARTICULAR USE.

I THINK THE TRIP, THE TRAFFIC OR THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENT THAT THE DEVELOPERS, UH, IS DOING AS FAR AS ADDING A SIXTH LANE TO OLD TROY PIKE.

UH, AND THEN WHEN THE CITY, WHEN WE MAKE OUR IMPROVEMENTS UP TO WAVERLY, I THINK YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SEE A BETTER NORTHBOUND FLOW.

UM, AND, AND ALSO THE STACKING ALONG TAYLORSVILLE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE NOW ON TAYLORSVILLE, BUT ADDING THAT, THAT, THAT FULL RIGHT TURN LANE WILL ALLOW ADDITIONAL STACKING AND REDUCE ANY TIME OF CONGESTION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING THROUGH RATHER THAN HAVING TO WAIT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, MAYOR, IF I'M READY, JUST ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

I, SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME.

OKAY, BETH, COULD YOU, UM, AND MY QUESTION IS SIMPLY, UH, TO GO BACK TO A STATEMENT YOU MADE AT THE LAST PRESENTATION REGARDING THE DRIVE-THROUGH AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, THE THINGS YOU PROVIDE THERE.

COULD YOU, UH, GIVE ME A RUNDOWN ON THAT ONE MORE TIME? UM, ABSOLUTELY.

SO GOOD, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AGAIN.

UM, YES, THE DRIVE-THROUGH PERCENTAGE

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FOR SALES IS ABOUT 10%.

UH, I THINK I FAILED TO MENTION ALSO THAT THE DRIVE-THROUGH IS SERVICED BY A KIOSK, SO THERE'S NO HEADSETS INSIDE THE RESTAURANT, NO PERSON SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE CUSTOMER.

IT'S ALL KIOSK.

YOU TOUCH.

IT'S A TOUCHSCREEN, JUST LIKE YOU WILL SEE ON ANY INSIDE.

UM, AND YOU CAN ORDER ANYTHING IN THE CONVENIENCE STORE RESTAURANT.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO GET MILK, A DIET COKE, A BOTTLE OF DIET COKE, AND, UM, A MILKSHAKE, UH, THE FRIED MAC AND CHEESE BITES, THE FRENCH FRIES, WHATEVER THAT'S ALL AVAILABLE THROUGH THE THROUGH.

UM, I DO HAVE THOUGHT ARMSTRONG WITH US TONIGHT WITH SHEETS THAT HE CAN VERIFY MY 10% DRIVE-THROUGH NUMBER, WHICH I'M SURE IS KIND OF, UM, UNBELIEVABLE TO BELIEVE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SHEETS IS DEFINITELY, UM, LIKE THEIR GAS STATION, BUT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO PUMP YOUR GUESTS, YOU GO INSIDE TO GET WHATEVER YOU MIGHT NEED.

SO, UM, BUT THE DRIVE THROUGH IS OBVIOUSLY VERY CONVENIENT FOR CUSTOMERS AND, UM, IT ACCOUNTS FOR 10% OF SALES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? YES, I NEED IT.

BRIAN.

I HAD ASKED YOU HERE THE OTHER DAY ABOUT HOW MANY GAS STATIONS FOR OUR POPULATION IS NEEDED.

I'M OKAY FOR TONIGHT, BUT BEFORE ANOTHER GAS STATION COMES UP HERE, CAN WE GET THAT NUMBER JUST BECAUSE OF THE EPA REGULATIONS? I HATE TO SEE US PUT IN A BUNCH OF GAS STATIONS, OIL CHANGE PLACES, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BE ANOTHER GAS STATION OR OIL CHANGE PLAYERS BECAUSE OF THE EPA REGULATIONS BEING LIABLE FOR A MILLION YEARS, BASICALLY.

ANYHOW.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER OF HOW MANY, A CITY, OUR SIZE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH OUT OF TWO, IT CAN HANDLE GAS STATIONS IN THIS AREA.

WHAT HAPPENED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE? YES, MARK MAYOR AT THE WORK SESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT ELIMINATION OF THE CARWASH.

WOULD THIS BE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT? OF COURSE, FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, YOU WERE PRESENT AT THE WORK SESSION AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD DONE ANY ADDITIONAL RESEARCH OR GAVE IT ANY MORE THOUGHT, UM, ELIMINATE, I, I IMMEDIATELY, UM, SENT THE CONCERNS OF COUNCIL TO SHEETS AND, UM, WHILE THEY, THEY ARE INTERESTED OR WILLING TO, TO ELIMINATE THE CARWASH, THEY DON'T LIKE A CONSIDERATION TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

UM, IF, IF THE TIME ARISES IN ONE TO TWO YEARS, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS.

I'M JUST SHOOTING NUMBERS HERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE WILLING TO ELIMINATE THE CARWASH WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THEY'D LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU ALMOST LIKE A PHASE TWO, UM, ALMOST LIKE A PHASE TWO, CORRECT? YES.

SO YOU WOULD SECURE THE PROPERTY W UM, WE ARE TAKING THE ENTIRE PARCEL REGARDLESS.

SO, SO YOU MIGHT COME BACK IN A COUPLE OR THREE YEARS MAKE THAT PROPOSAL.

UH, AARON, HOW DOES THAT STRIKE YOU? I THINK THAT IS FINE.

UM, I THINK THAT WE WOULD WANT FLEXIBILITY MAYBE AT THE STAFF LEVEL TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE PARKING SIDE.

I'D HATE FOR THERE TO BE BASICALLY THAT ISLAND OF PARKING THAT WOULD BE UP THERE IF WE DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY, UM, AND WORK WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON, UM, AND THE APPLICANT ON, UH, RECONFIGURING THAT, THAT PARKING AREA, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE, THE CARWASH WHERE IT WOULD STILL ACCOMMODATE A CAR WASH.

SO IF THEY SO CHOOSE CORRECT, AND MAYBE BE A LITTLE MORE AESTHETIC LEE PLEASING, THEN A NINE PARKING STALL SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT.

AND WE WILL MEET MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK ON.

I MEAN, IT, IT WILL, IT WILL DEFINITELY BE HIGH CLASS AND LOOK VERY, VERY GOOD.

I'M SURE IT WILL.

THE IMAGES LOOK VERY NICE.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK, I GUESS THE, SO WE, WE DO HAVE THE LEGISLATION THIS EVENING FOR THIS PARTICULAR ZONING APPROVAL.

WAS THIS ONE, ONE THAT WAS, UH, ASKED TO APPROVE TONIGHT? OR WAS THIS MOVING ON TO, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO A SECOND RATING.

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO IN A SECOND.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TIME THEN.

UM, I GUESS I WOULD JUST ASK IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF REMOVING THE, THE CARWASH THEN THAT WOULD NEED TO BE IN THE LEGISLATION OR PART OF THAT ZONING THAT COMES BACK.

SO, UM, IF THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED, OKAY.

WOULD WORK WITH STAFF TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND RATING, WHICH WOULD BE OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TO THE SECOND RATING, WE'D HAVE AN AMENDED ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THAT EVENING.

SO, SO MARK, IS THAT A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU'RE MAKING TO REMOVE THE CARWASH FOR THAT LEGISLATION COMING FORWARD? YES.

NANCY.

MADE BY, BY MARK TO, TO HAVE THE CARWASH REMOVED FROM THE SITE AND WORK WITH STAFF, HAVE THE LEGISLATION LAY THAT OUT? UM, VERY CLEARLY ON WHAT THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE ANY OBJECTION.

SO IS THERE ANY, I'LL JUST ASK, IS THERE A MAJORITY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION

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SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION, AT LEAST MOVING FORWARD.

YES, MARK.

HERE.

I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, MAYBE AARON, THAT THIS LAND THAT WE WOULD HOLD IN RESERVE WOULD BE FINISHED.

THERE WOULD BE SOME FINISHED GRADE TO THAT.

IT WOULDN'T BE LEFT UNFINISHED, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM ON SOME, SOME MINOR LANDSCAPING TO MAKE SURE THAT PERIMETER IS ATTRACTIVE.

TO ITEM 11, D ITEM 11, D A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 25TH, 2022 BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE BDP 22 DASH 25.

SO I THINK WE HAVE STAFF HAS DIRECTION ON, ON WHAT COUNSEL IS REQUESTING FOR, FOR THE COLORADO.

SO NEXT I WOULD ASK, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR AARON? OKAY.

ONE LAST TIME.

IS THERE ANY ONE PERSON WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR CENTER CASE? OKAY.

SO BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, A PUBLIC HEARING BY CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE MJC 22 DASH ONE IS YOUR BIKE CLOSED, WHICH LEADS US

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For July 25, 2022 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case BDP 22-25. The Applicant Is Homestead Development. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Basic Development Plan For 15.56 Acres For Property Located At 6209 Brandt Pike And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 03912 0140 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

THE APPLICANT IS HOMESTEAD DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 15.56 ACRES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 62 0 9 BRAND PIKE FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 3 9 1 2 0 1 4 0 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITORS.

THANK YOU, JOHNNY.

SO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 25TH, 2022 BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL, FOR CASE TO BDP 22 DASH 25 IS NOW OPEN.

AND I WOULD CALL ON CITY STAFF, MR. TO MAKE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION ONCE AGAIN.

THE CLOSEST EDGE, UH, BETWEEN, UH, FOR THIS END UNIT BETWEEN HERE AND THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, UH, IS APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET.

SO THIS IS APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 135 UNITS, SENIOR COMMUNITY, AND A 192, A UNIT MARKET RATE COMMUNITY.

UH, THE SITE IS 15.56 ACRES.

IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN TO MIXED USE.

UH, ALSO WITH THE BRAND PIPE REVITALIZATION OVERLAY, UH, DISTRICT, UH, IT IS A VACANT LAND IT'S BEEN VACANT LAND FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UM, ADJACENT IS, ARE FOUR TO THE WEST PLAYING COMMERCIAL TO THE, TO THE NORTH, UM, PLAN MIXED USE TO THE EAST AND, UH, TO THE SOUTH IS PLANNED PUBLIC USE AND B3.

UH, AS I SAID, UH, THERE ARE TWO, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, ONE A HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE UNITS, SENIOR COMMUNITY, AND ONE, A 192 MARKET RATE COMMUNITY.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS NON-INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS.

HERE IS THE SITE IN QUESTION.

UM, THE LIBRARY IS CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED ABOUT RIGHT HERE.

OOPS.

SO AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE BACKGROUND, UM, THE BRAND PIKE TARGET REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS ADOPTED, UH, IN 2017, WHICH IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR SENIOR AND MARKET RATE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING IN THAT AREA.

UH, THE CITY PURCHASED THE SHOPPING CENTER TO FACILITATE THAT REDEVELOPMENT.

UM, RIGHT NOW THE, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS BRANCH LIBRARY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UH, DOGTOWN WILL BE MOVING IN THERE.

AND THEN THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS, UH, ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SHOPPING CENTER, FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO THAT AREA.

UM, THIS IS THE, UH, THE SITE PLAN, UH, WITH THE OVERALL, UM, THIS IS THE MARKET RATE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THIS IS THE SENIOR FACILITY, UH, DOWN HERE IS THE PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

DOGTOWN IS HERE THIS, THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER, AND THESE ARE TWO POTENTIAL FUTURE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING OR A, UH, ANOTHER PUBLIC PURPOSE BUILDING ON SITE.

I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THE SITE PLAN AND WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS, HAS DONE AS FAR AS MITNICK HELPING MITIGATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS TO THE, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH.

UM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS SECTION OF, OF HOUSING OF THE APARTMENTS IN THE MARKET RATE IS OFFSET AND REALLY IS, IS INTENDED TO ALIGN WITH, UH, THE BEND IN THE ROAD.

AND THE FACT THAT THESE HOMES TO THE NORTH, OR EXCUSE ME TO THE WEST, UM, CONTINUALLY ARE SET BACK QUITE A DISTANCE.

SO FROM ROUGHLY AT

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UH, AS WE LOOK AT THIS, THE LARGER, UM, FACADES, UH, IT RANGES FROM APPROXIMATELY 150 TO 160 FEET HERE, UPWARDS OF 200, UH, 200 FEET AS, AS WE GET CLOSER, AS WE GET FURTHER IN, AND THESE, THESE HOUSES CONTINUE TO GET SET BACK FURTHER.

UM, SO THERE, THE, THE LARGE FACADE, UH, REALLY IS, IS WELL SCREENED FROM, I THINK FROM THE BACK OF, ESPECIALLY THIS PARTICULAR, UH, GROUP OF, OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THE SENIOR FACILITY, UH, IS ALSO BUILT IN A U SHAPED, WHICH ONE MAXIMIZES THE WALL FACADE ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

WE WANT TO SEE THESE USES, UH, BE UP TO THE STREET TO FRAME THE STREET.

UM, BUT AS IT GETS BACK TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHAT YOU'RE ONLY SEEING IS THIS END CAP UNIT, WHICH IS LARGELY A STAIRWELL, UH, MAYBE A COUPLE OF WINDOWS, NO BALCONIES HERE ON THE END.

UH, AND THIS IS ABOUT 180 FEET FROM HERE TO THE BACK OF THAT HOUSE, UH, BACK THESE BACKYARDS.

SO THE DEVELOPER'S GOING TO DONE, I THINK, A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF CREATING THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL USES AND THE EXISTING, UH, HOMES TO, TO THE WEST.

OOPS, I LOST THE SLIDE.

UH, HERE IS THE, UH, SOME EXAMPLES OF THE FACADES.

UH, THERE A MIXTURE OF, UH, A BRICK, A STONE, A HARDY PLANK.

UM, ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD AT PLANNING COMMISSION WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD CONNECTIVITY.

SO THERE ARE, UH, WALKS, UH, ALL AROUND, UH, THE UNITS, UH, WE HAD THE, THE DEVELOPER HAS REVISED THE SITE PLAN, UH, SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

SO THERE ARE NOW FIVE FOOT WALKS THAT ARE ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THE RAMP PIKE OVERLAY DISTRICT ONLY SPECIFIES FOUR FEET, UH, STAFF WANTED FIVE FEET, UH, ESPECIALLY, UH, WHEN WE GET TO A SENIOR COMMUNITY, UM, YOU HAVE SOME MOBILITY CONCERNS, WHEELCHAIRS, UH, THAT SCOOTERS, UH, FOUR-FOOT SIDEWALK IS NOT GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SAME WAY.

YOUNG FAMILY WITH A STROLLER, UM, A FOUR-FOOT WALK, UM, FOR TWO PEOPLE, MY SIZE IS DIFFICULT.

UH, SO WE WANTED US TO SEE THIS BE FIVE FOOT, UH, ON THE PERIMETERS HERE, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE.

UH, THIS IS JUST THE MATERIAL SHEET AGAINST STONE, HARDY PLANK, UH, SOME, SOME SHINGLE, UH, AGAIN, UH, ATTRACTIVE FACADE THAT WOULD, UH, THAT, THAT REALLY, I THINK, LENDS ITSELF FOR THIS FIRST PHASE OF REDEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS THE RENDERING OF THE SENIOR FACILITY.

THIS WOULD BE PROBABLY THE FRONT DOOR THAT MOST PEOPLE USE, BUT THIS IS REALLY THE REAR ENTRANCE INTO THE COMMON AREA.

THIS IS THE, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE FACADE THAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM, FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL SCREENING.

UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS STAGGERED THE, THE BUILDING SIZES.

SO ON THE END CAPS, THEY ARE A TWO STORY IN THE MIDDLE.

THEY ARE THEY'RE UPWARDS OF THREE.

UM, THERE'S ALSO A GARAGE, A SINGLE-STORY GARAGE THAT HELPS SEPARATE THE POTENTIAL, UH, NOISE FROM THE UNITS AND ALSO THE, THE VISUAL SCREENS, LARGELY THE, THE PARKING LOT THAT IS RIGHT HERE.

UM, SO BETWEEN THE FENCE LINE AND THE BACK OF THE GARAGE, UM, IS ABOUT 37 FEET.

UH, THERE'S A FOUR-FOOT MOUND BEING PROPOSED.

THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH, YOU CAN'T REALLY GET MUCH HIGHER THAN FOUR FEET BECAUSE OF THE, UM, I'M SORRY, IT'S A FIVE FOOT MOUND, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, THE WIDTH, UM, BETWEEN DRAINAGE, UH, EROSION CONTROL MOWING FIVE FOOT IS ABOUT AS HIGH AS IT'S GONNA GET.

UH, BUT THERE ARE PLANTINGS ON HERE WHICH WILL AGAIN, UH, FROM A, FROM A VISUAL PERSPECTIVE, HELP SCREEN AND SOFTEN, UM, THE BACK OF, OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THESE RESIDENTS SEE AS FAR AS THE BACK OF THE UNITS, THE DEVELOPERS TAKING GREAT CARE, AND TO TRY TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT.

SO AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, THESE USES THE BOTH RESIDENTIAL USES ARE PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED IN THE, UM, PLAN MIXED USE DISTRICT.

THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 40% OPEN SPACE.

ONLY 25%

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IS REQUIRED.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS AT 37 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE BACK OF THE GARAGE.

UM, 25 FOOT IS REQUIRED.

THERE WAS NO SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING OR LIGHTING PLANS IN THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMISSION, WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL.

THOSE LEVEL OF DETAILS WILL, WILL COME FORWARD THROUGH THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.

AGAIN, THE LANDSCAPING IS PLAN IS NOT HAD, UM, BEEN SUBMITTED.

UM, ONE THING THAT WE RECOMMENDED WAS, UM, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU INTERPRET THE ZONING CODE, THERE WAS A POTENTIAL THAT, UH, MOUNDING COULD BE REQUIRED WHERE THE NEW MEDICAL OFFICE PROPOSED USE COULD BE.

UH, WE DIDN'T THINK, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS APPROPRIATE ALL WE'RE BUILDING A COMMUNITY, NOT A COMPOUND.

UH, SO WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE WAS, UM, CLUSTERS OF LANDSCAPING, UM, THAT REALLY SHOWS OFF THIS, THE QUALITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

IT DOESN'T HIDE IT.

UM, THE CODE REQUIRES AS FAR AS PARKING TWO SPACES PER UNIT, THE NON-SENIOR FACILITY HAS A 320 SPACES, WHICH WORKS OUT TO ABOUT 1.6, SEVEN SPACES PER UNIT.

THE, UM, SENIOR FACILITY HAS 1.1 SPACES PER UNIT, WHICH IS, UH, UH, OF 149 SPACES.

THERE HAVE BEEN RECENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THAT HAVE LESS THAN TWO SPACES PER, UH, PER UNIT.

UM, THE, UH, THE PARK VIEW APARTMENTS, UH, HAS A 1.72 SPACES PER UNIT.

UM, AND THEN THE HAYDEN APARTMENTS, WHICH WE JUST, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BROAD REACH, UH, HAS 1.4, FIVE SPACES PER DAY, PER UNIT.

SO ON AN ASIDE, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE THING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DISCUSS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ZONING CODE CHANGES IS THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING WE REQUIRE MORE THAN IS NECESSARY, FRANKLY.

UM, SO AS FAR AS THE BRAND PIKE OVERLAY DISTRICT, UM, THE, THE USE MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.

UH, IT DOES HAVE A HEIGHT LIMIT OF THREE STORIES AT 35 FEET.

IT'S THE ONLY DISTRICT THAT HAS A HEIGHT REQUIREMENT.

UM, WE FELT THAT THIS, THAT THE THREE STORY UNITS, UM, ARE, ARE APPROPRIATE.

UH, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DENSITY, UM, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, THE, THE LAND BE, UH, GENERATE AS MUCH ECONOMIC VALUE AS POSSIBLE CONSIDERING, UH, THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC RESOURCES THAT WENT INTO PURCHASING THIS, THE BRANT PIKE OVERLAY ALSO MANDATED, OR, UH, ONLY HAS A MINIMUM OF FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK WIDTH.

UM, WE, UM, WE REQUIRED OR RECOMMENDED THAT THE SIDEWALK WITH BE, UH, INCREASED TO FIVE FEET CONSISTENT WITH, UH, THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS.

UH, THE ELEVATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE BUILDING MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS FOUND IN, UH, 1181.

UH, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WAS, UH, SO LIKE I SAID, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL.

UM, THEY WILL NEED TO COME IN FURTHER WITH SIGNAGE LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING.

UH, AS FAR AS ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION, WE FELT THAT THE STANDARDS, UH, IN 17, UH, 17, EXCUSE ME, 1171 TO SIX CAN BE MET.

UM, AND WE HAD, UH, NINE CONDITIONS.

UM, AGAIN, THE SIDEWALKS BE REQUIRED CONNECTING THE SENIOR BUILDING ALONG THAT, UH, FUTURE ROADWAY.

THE DEVELOPER HAS COME IN WITH THE REVISED PLANS AND THAT HAS NOW BEEN ADDRESSED ALL SIDEWALKS, BE FIVE FOOT, UM, MINIMUM WIDTH THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

UM, THERE IS NO, WE WANT TO SEE STREET TREES, 40 FOOT ON CENTER ASSIGNED PACKAGE THAT MEETS THE, UH, THE ZONING CODE, UH, LIGHTING PLAN, LANDSCAPING PLAN, UH, AND IN LUA MOUNDING, AGAIN, ALONG THE FUTURE ROADWAY, WE WANT TO SEE CLUSTERED, UH, LANDSCAPE AREAS BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS AND THE SIDEWALK AND THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS, UH, AND ALSO ALL FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS.

SO THERE WERE TWO RESIDENTS THAT SPOKE AT THE MEETING.

THERE WERE, THEY DIDN'T SPEAK IN OPPOSITION MORE ABOUT, UH, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

UM, THE FIRST WAS FLOODING, UM, WHAT THE RESIDENTS SAID, THE RESIDENTS TO THE WEST, UH, SAID THAT THEIR, UH, THEIR LAND, EXCUSE ME, FLOODS QUITE A BIT.

UH, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THIS, THE EXISTING SITE, ABOUT 75% OF THAT SITE FLOWS TOWARDS THEIR HOMES.

UH, SO WHEN THE FINAL GRADING IS, IS DONE FOR THIS PROJECT, THIS WILL GREAT RELIEF GREATLY

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REDUCE OR POSSIBLY ELIMINATE, UH, ANY OF THE FLOODING ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE.

SO THAT STORMWATER THAT IS NOW DRAINING INTO THEIR BACKYARDS WILL BE CAPTURED ON SITE.

UH, AND SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ALLEVIATE, UH, THOSE, THOSE FLOODING ISSUES.

THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUILDING HEIGHT, JUST, AND THEN GENERAL NOISE CONCERNS REGARDING NEW RESONANCES MOVING IN BEHIND THEM.

UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE FIVE TO ZERO TO APPROVE THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THANK YOU, AARON.

SO, UH, NEXT I CALLED THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM HOMESTEAD DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION OR JUST BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANKS, MATT.

UH, AND NEXT I'D CALL ON OUR WALL DIRECTOR TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF THERE IS ANY NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

MR. MAYOR.

UH, SO IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ZEN IN CASE? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR CENTER IN CASE YES.

YOU JUST COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? UM, MY NAME IS WILDA STANLEY.

I'M A RESIDENT OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

I'VE BEEN HERE MAYBE 17 YEARS.

I DON'T REMEMBER MY, JUST MY CONCERN IS JUST THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS IN GENERAL THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, WE ALL PROBABLY STARTED OUT IN APARTMENTS WHEN WE WERE FIRST INDEPENDENT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DEFINITE NEED FOR THEM.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN APARTMENTS TEND TO BE MORE TRANSIENT.

UM, I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD HAVE LESS COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

I KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WHEN WE WERE RENTERS, BUT ONCE WE BOUGHT A HOME, WE WERE MUCH MORE INVOLVED WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES WERE.

UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SCHOOL LEVIES ARE VERY HARD TO PASS.

UH, I DON'T SEE MUCH MOTIVATION FOR A TENANT WHO'S TRANSIENT BY NATURE TO VOTE FOR A SCHOOL LEVY.

THAT CONCERNS ME A LOT.

UM, YOU KNOW, JUST VOLUNTEERISM, MOB, THINGS LIKE THAT.

JUST KIND OF CONCERNED ME JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY APARTMENTS I BELIEVE BEING PLANNED.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A NEED FROM THE STUDY IN 2017, ARE THOSE NEEDS NOT BEING MET BY THE APARTMENTS AT OFF OF A ULTRA PIKE NEAR TAYLORSVILLE, AND WHERE THERE SOME OTHER, OTHER APARTMENTS OVERALL BELL FOUNTAIN SOMEWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE I HEARD A RUMOR ABOUT THAT, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

THE PLANS LOOKED LOVELY.

YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO BE A NICE, AND CERTAINLY IT'LL LOOK BETTER THAN IT DOES NOW.

AND IT HAS, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS IN GENERAL, INSTEAD OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THAT'S IT.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS CASE? COME TO COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION PLEASE.

UM, I LIVE ON ANNE'S BERRY AS TO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT CURB AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE OTHER HOUSES IS THAT SECTION, UM, WHERE LIBEL IS.

SO YOU'RE TALKING THOSE HOUSES COMING IN.

FROM WHERE LIBEL IS.

SO YOU'RE COMING IN ABOUT ONE TO FOUR AS MINE.

SO I'M BRIGHT ON THIS SIDE OF THAT BEND.

THEY'D PROBABLY BE RIGHT ABOUT WHERE MINE IS.

SO BEHIND OUR HOUSES, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE.

IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING BEHIND OUR HOUSES? UM, OR IS IT JUST GOING TO GO FROM, I'M TALKING ABOUT IT LIKE A FENCE OR ANYTHING TYPE THING LIKE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE.

AND THEN FOR MY HOUSE, SO FAR BACK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A THREE-FOOT EARTH, THREE STORY BUILDING.

YEAH, PLEASE.

DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OR CANTERBURY DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, UH, OF EXPLAINING THE SIGHT LINES.

I THINK THE, THE, THE DRAWING OF THE MOUNTAIN AND THE FENCING WAS KIND OF ON THE SIGHT LINE IS PROBABLY IMPORTANT FOR HER TO MAYBE TO THE PLANNING COMMITTEE OR, OR WORK SESSION.

IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THOSE SIGHT LINES WERE.

UM, I THINK MR. CARVER

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SO BETWEEN THE BACK OF YOUR HOUSE, AGAIN, THE APARTMENT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE GIVE OR TAKE ABOUT 200 FEET.

UM, THERE WILL BE A, A SIX FOOT FENCE THAT WILL BE BUILT, UH, JUST UP TO YOUR PROPERTY LINE.

UM, THE DEVELOPER IS PLANNING TO MEET WITH ALL OF THE RESIDENTS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR EXISTING FENCE OR, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY REPLACE IT WITH ONE UNIFORM FENCE DOWN THE ENTIRE SITE.

UH, SO IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, UH, HE WILL BE REACHING OUT WITH, UH, WITH YOU.

UM, SO THIS IS YOUR BACKYARD EFFECTIVELY BEHIND THE EVENTS WILL BE AT FIVE FOOT LOUD, ALONG WITH A SIX FOOT AND 15 FOOT EVERGREEN TREES.

UM, SO IT WILL BE THE TOPS OF THOSE TREES SHOULD BLOCK YOU FROM SEEING MORE OF THIS REALLY BREAKUP, UM, THE TOP OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THAT'S WHAT THIS LINE IS REPRESENTING IS AS YOU LOOKING UP, UM, THE, THE TREES, UM, SHOULD REALLY BLOCK THAT VIEW.

MINE IS ONE OF THE ONLY PROPERTIES THAT DOES NOT HAVE A FENCE.

SO THAT'S WHEN ANYBODY CUTS HER, THEY ALWAYS CUT THROUGH MY YARD.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOODING PART TO MY YARD.

DIDN'T GET HIS FAT AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S, BUT THE REST HAD STANDING WATER, ET CETERA, IN THEIR YARDS.

IT'S A GOOD SHOE ADDRESS RIGHT NOW.

75% OF THAT SITE DRAINS INTO EVERYBODY'S BACKYARD.

ALL OF THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

WELL, THEY DUG IT OUT AND IT'S GOTTEN LIKE, SO THAT HAS HELPED A LOT, BUT IT'S FILLING OUT OVER THE YEARS.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I WAS JUST SURPRISED WHEN YOU SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE THREE STORES.

THAT KIND OF SURPRISED ME WITH ALL OF THEM BEING SINGLE HOMES ON ADS, VERY EXCEPT FOR ONE HOUSE, UM, FURTHER DOWN TOWARDS FITCHBURG.

THANK YOU REAL QUICK.

JUST TO CLARIFY TO YOU WHAT I KNOW WE SAID WE'D STAGGERED THEM.

SO SOME OF THEM ARE TWO STORIES, SOME ARE THREE STORIES, SO NOT, SO THERE'S THREE BUILDINGS OF THE GARAGES THAT ARE BACK THERE.

SO THE, OR THE, I'M SORRY, THE GARAGES, THERE'S THREE BUILDINGS OF GARAGES, BUT HOW ARE THE ACTUAL APARTMENT BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, THOSE ARE STAGGERED TO AND VERSUS THREE-STORY CORRECT.

SO THE END BUILDINGS ARE OUR TWO STORY, THE MIDDLE RAPE.

SO IT WOULD BE 2, 3, 3, 2, 2 3, 3, 2.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CLARIFIES OR HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THERE'S, IT DOES BRING UP THAT VISUAL, RIGHT? THIS IS GOING TO BE SENIOR LIVING PLUS THIS WILL BE SENIOR.

THE SENIOR LIVING IS MORE DOWN THEN TOWARDS THE END OF ASBURY, UM, BEHIND THE BOOSTER CENTER, CORRECT WAY BOOSTER SUMMER, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND BEFORE YOU SAT OUT, WOULD YOU PLEASE JUST GIVE US YOUR, DO YOU HAVE TO GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, BUT JUST YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTINE.

ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR SET IN CASE? OKAY.

SO ONE LAST TIME A THURSDAY, WHEN PRESIDENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE.

AND, AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING ALLOCATION THAT PARKVIEW AND ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT ARE USING.

BARRING FURTHER COMMENTS, PUBLIC HEARING BY CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE BDP 22 DASH 25 IS HERE.

BUT I APOLOGIZE THAT I SKIPPED OVER COUNCIL.

I STARTED THINKING THAT, YEAH, THAT'S NUMBER EIGHT, A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, WISH TO EXPRESS ANY COMMENTS, NANCY.

AARON, UM, COULD YOU CLARIFY, YOU SAID IT WAS 192 UNITS, OR IS IT 184? SO IT'S 192.

UM, THE 180 4 CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL SET OF PLANS THAT WAS LISTED AS 180 4 IN ERROR BY CURRENT, CONFIRM THAT WITH THE DEVELOPER TODAY, IT'S 192 UNITS, 192.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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AREN'T THERE COMPLAINTS UP THERE ABOUT THE POWER OF THE PARKING? I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY, BUT YEAH, NO.

YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET ALL OF THE GROCERIES INTO ONE INTO ONE BAG WHEN WE GO TO THE GROCERY STORE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD GO TO BRIAN DEVELOPER, EITHER ONE OF YOU CAN FEEL THIS IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT CAN WE GO TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS A MORE BACKED OUT, UH, OVERVIEW.

THERE WE GO.

CAN WE GET, UM, BECAUSE THIS HAS CHANGED FROM PREVIOUS, UM, SOME PREVIOUS ILLUSTRATION, SO WE CAN GET A LITTLE KIND OF, UH, DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THIS CENTER IS HERE FOR US, BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE KIND OF CHANGE THAT REALLY, UH, TO ME, FELT LIKE THIS IS BRINGING IT INTO THE BRAND PIKE REVITALIZATION, UM, GOAL IN THE BEGINNING.

SURE.

SO, UM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL PROJECT CURRENTLY REPRESENTS WHEN, UM, WE'LL BE WORKING COLLECTIVELY WITH THE DEVELOPER, UM, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THERE'S SEVERAL LAND SPLITS AND SOME PREPARATION WORK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

UM, SO WHAT WE'LL SEE WHEN THIS PROJECT KICKS OFF, THIS WILL BE A GREEN SPACE HERE, AND THIS WILL BE GREEN SPACE.

UH, BRIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA IS WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT.

SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE THE LIBRARY, THE PARKING AND THIS RETENTION POND, UM, WILL COME OUT, UM, OF THE GROUND, I GUESS, WILL BE DUG INTO THE GROUND AS THESE BUILDINGS COME OUT OF THE GROUND.

UM, MOVING FORWARD, WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING WITH COUNCIL WITH HERE SHORTLY IS, UM, TAKING THIS PROPERTY HERE.

UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UH, SENIOR CENTER, UH, AND COUNCIL WORKSPACE AT THIS LOCATION.

AND SO THIS IS THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING THAT LWCC WILL BE WORKING WITH WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR, UM, INTERNAL, UM, INTERNAL, UM, USE CONFIGURATIONS, UH, FOR BOTH THOSE PURPOSES.

SO THAT WILL BE A LATER PROJECT THAT THE CITY WILL INITIATE.

UH, BUT THIS IS THE SITE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AND THROUGH THE LAND SPLIT, UH, SUBDIVISION PROCESS TO BRING THE REST OF THIS TO FRUITION, THIS WILL BE SPLIT OFF AS A SEPARATE LOT.

UH, THIS HERE IS THE PUBLIC SPACE, UM, THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT, UH, PUBLIC SPACE WAS A COMPONENT OF THE ORIGINAL 2017 PLAN.

UH, IT WAS, UH, REFERENCED HEAVILY DURING THE, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING WHEN WE REVEALED THIS PROJECT.

UH, AND I KNOW IS A COMPONENT OF CONCERN TO SEVERAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S TURNED OVER TO US.

IT WILL EFFECTIVELY BE, UM, UH, WE'LL CALL IT GRADED IN SEEDED PROPERTY, BUT IT WILL BE OURS TO DESIGN AND DEVELOP AS WE SEE FIT AND MOVING FORWARD.

BUT THE IDEA IN CONCEPT IS THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE PARK SPACE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, UM, OR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING AND PRESENT, UM, IS BEING PROPOSED.

UM, AND AGAIN IS NOT PART OF ANY PORTION.

THIS IS CONCEPTUAL WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE AN EXTENSION IF YOU WILL, OF WHAT IS THE CR DAYTON, UM, UH, UH, STRIP MALL, UH, UNDER THAT NEW FACADE AND LAYOUT TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMERCIAL GROWTH ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

SO THIS WOULD BE TO CREATE A NEW SPACE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS PROJECT, BUT, UM, IS A CONCEPT THAT WE'VE BEEN ADVANCING WITH THIS DEVELOPER SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT IMAGE OUT THERE, THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO ADD, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL SPACE TO THIS AREA, UH, ESPECIALLY MODERNIZED SPACE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S LACKING.

UM, AND AS IDENTIFIED IN, UH, IN THE 2017 PIKE REVITALIZATION STUDY.

SO THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE, UM, IS, UH, THE DOGTOWN FACILITY.

THEY'RE STILL COMING OUT OF THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND THEY ARE ABOUT TO BE A TEMPORARY TENANT OF OURS OVER HERE IN CR DAYTON.

SO WE CAN KIND OF MOVE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ALONG.

UH, THIS PARCEL BACK HERE IS RETAINED BY PREMIER HEALTH NETWORK, UH, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHY THE APPLICANT IS REFERRED TO THIS AS MEDICAL SPACE, PREMIER MAY DEVELOP IT THEMSELVES.

THEY MAY SELL IT OFF TO SOMEONE ELSE, BUT, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS PROPERTY THAT IS IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S POSSESSION.

UH, BUT WE WOULD WORK TO, UM, WE WOULD WORK TO, UH, FACILITATE GROWTH AT THE SITE.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER SHOULD COUNCIL ELECT TO, UM, MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD IN THE AUTHORIZING LEGISLATION.

UH, WE HAVE INCLUDED DIRECTION TO STAFF TO BEGIN WORKING WITH THE OWNERS OF THESE PARCELS, UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE PROJECT SITE, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS, I SHOULD SAY, ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.

SO, UH, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT MAYBE WHAT, UH, THAT WE WERE LACKING, SOME RETAIL, COMMERCIAL ELEMENTS AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

UM, AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE IS A GREATER EMPHASIS ON COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL IN THIS AREA.

UM, BUT, UH,

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SO, UH, WE, WE PUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GROCERIES IN THIS BAG CAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BEST WAY TO, TO RACK IT AND STACK IT.

AND SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE REST OF THE GROCERIES IN THIS BAG UP HERE.

SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S IN THE LEGISLATION AS WELL.

SHOULD COUNCIL, UH, MOVE TO ADOPT THIS? UM, ONCE WE GET WORKING HERE, UH, WE'LL BEGIN TALKING WITH, UH, THE OWNERSHIP UP HERE TO CONTINUE TO REDEVELOP IT.

SO THAT'S HOW ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS PLAY TOGETHER, UH, TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE COOK.

THE ITEMS IDENTIFIED IN THE REVITALIZATION STUDY FROM 2017.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

AND I WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOU, YOU AND STAFF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AS WELL.

AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE IS I THINK THAT GREEN SPACE, THAT PUBLIC PLACE, UM, THAT WE CAN DEVELOP, UM, AND AS PART OF THAT TOWN CENTER IS GOING TO BE VERY INTEGRAL TO THIS PROJECT.

AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ISCHIA THANK YOU.

MAYOR CAN ERIN OR THE DEVELOPER CLARIFY? MY QUESTION IS, UM, SO 55 AND OLDER, IS THAT GOING TO BE MARKET RATE ALSO? YES.

NEXT IS ITEM 11 E ITEM 11, A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 25TH, 2022 BY THE HUBRIS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE MJC 22 DASH 27.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ON COUNCIL? YES, I NEED IT.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, I, I LIKED THE PLAN, BUT I'M A VOTE.

MY RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THIS BACK THERE AND ANN'S BARRIER LABELED.

THEY ARE AGAINST IT, AND I CANNOT BE FOR THIS FOR THAT REASON.

WHAT ELSE? OKAY.

SO NOW WE'LL MOVE TO THE LAST ONE, BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE BDP 22 DASH 25 IS HERE BY CLOSED.

I'M ALMOST THERE ONE MORE TIME.

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For July 25, 2022 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case MJC 22-27. The Applicant Is Ruetschle Architects. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Major Change To The Basic And Detailed Development Plans For An 11,623 Square Foot Addition For Property Located At 5400 Chambersburg Road And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 04004 0032 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

THE APPLICANT IS ROOT SHUL ARCHITECTS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MAJOR CHANGE THAT BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE 11,623 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5,400 CHAMBERS MARK ROAD, FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER PIECE 7 0 0 4 0 0 4 0 0 3 2 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITORS MAP ON THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE.

UH, I, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, IS, IS MY EMPLOYER.

UH, SO I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS DISCUSSION.

I'VE ASKED, UH, VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL, UH, TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS SPECIFIC ZONING CASE.

SO, UH, THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M GOING TO GO IN THE BACK.

JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED.

I WOULD ANNOUNCED THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 25TH, 2022, BUT THE YOU BRIGHT CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE M J C 22 DASH 27 OPEN, I WOULD CALL ON STAFF TO MAKE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.

AARON, PLEASE.

ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO THIS IS A APPROVAL FOR THE MAJOR CHANGE TO A BASIC AND D UH, DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR, UM, A, UH, NEARLY 12,000 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, THE SITE IS 47.8 ACRES.

IT'S ZONED PUBLIC PRIVATE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.

THE CURRENT LAND USES THE HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, JASON LAND IS OUR FOUR TO THE WEST, THE SOUTH AND THE EAST, AND, UH, PP OR THE PLAN PRIVATE BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH.

THE ORIGINAL COMBINED BASIC DEVELOPMENT BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER, 2009.

UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING A MAJOR CHANGE TO ADD OR A, A THE CAREER TECHNOLOGY ADDITION, UM, TO THE EXISTING AUDITORIUM FACILITY, UH, AND A 26, UH, PARKING SPACE REDUCTION AS A RESULT.

HERE'S THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, THE ADDITION IS TO THE REAR OF THE AUDITORIUM, UH, INDICATED BY THE GREEN ARROW.

THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL BASIC, UH, AND COMBINED DETAILED AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UH, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS, UH, IT WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE BUS STAGING, AS WELL AS, UH, EXISTING PARKING LOT.

UM, OVER TIME, THIS HAS MORPHED INTO, UH, PARKING AND MARCHING BAND PRACTICE.

UH, THE BUSES ACTUALLY STAGE, UH, FURTHER, FURTHER SOUTH.

UH, THIS IS THE, UH, PROPOSED, COMBINED BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED ADDITION TO THE SOUTH OF THE, UH, THE AUDITORIUM

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THERE ALSO BE SOME INTERNAL, UH, RENOVATIONS TO ADD SOME, UH, CLASSROOMS, BUT BASICALLY THIS IS THREE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE INSIDE THIS ADDITION.

UH, THERE ALSO WILL BE A PEDESTRIAN, CAN IT BE CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN THE MAIN HIGH SCHOOL AND, UH, AND THE ARENA ALONG WITH SOME, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, TO THE PARKING LOT AREA, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE ADDITION, THIS IS THE, UH, RENDERING OF, OF THE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE FROM THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, ACCESS BAY DOORS ALONG WITH, UH, UPPER STORY WINDOWS.

UH, THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE, UH, WHAT CAN IT BE WALKWAY? THERE ARE THREE, UH, CLASSROOMS IN THE EDITION.

UH, ONE IS WELDING.

ONE IS VAC, UH, AND THEN ANOTHER CONSTRUCTION, UH, UH, TECH LAB, UM, FACILITATING THEIR CAREER TECH EMPHASIS THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL IS MOVING TOWARDS.

UM, AS FAR AS PERFORMANCE WITH THE, UH, ZONING REGULATIONS, THE PROPOSED USE CONFORMS TO, UH, CHAPTER 1174, THE PP, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE USE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DISTRICT.

THE SITE HAS, UH, 1100 OR ROUGHLY 1100 PARKING SPACES.

AND THAT PARKING, UH, WAS BASED ON THE STADIUM NEEDS.

UM, THE SCHOOL USE ITSELF ONLY REQUIRES 460 SPACES.

UH, STAFF FEELS A 26, UH, SPACE REDUCTION OUT OF 1100 SPACES, UH, IS NEGLIGIBLE FOR THEIR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.

UH, WE FEEL THAT THE STANDARDS APPROVAL OF APPROVAL OUTLINED IN 1170 1.06 CAN BE MET, AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT MEETS THE FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS, APPLICANT MEET ALL ENGINEERING, UH, REQUIREMENTS.

UH, IT WAS A QUICK PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, MEETING, UH, THEY VOTED FIVE ZERO TO SUPPORT THE MAJOR CHANGE OR TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THANKS, AARON.

UH, I WOULD NOW CALL ON REPRESENTATIVES OR SHELL ARCHITECTS TO MAKE COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY NAME IS MIKE RICHLY WITH RICHLY ARCHITECTS.

UH, IT'S A PLEASURE OF BEING FOR COUNCIL TONIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THIS IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STUDENTS OF, OF WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, IF ANY OF YOU TRIED TO BID ANYTHING OR LOOK FOR A CONTRACTOR OR AN HAC TECH, UH, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT.

SO FOR WAYNE TO, UH, TO OFFER THE STUDENTS TO THIS COMMUNITY, UM, THIS OPPORTUNITY IS REALLY EXCITING.

IT IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH MIAMI VALLEY CAREER TECH CENTER.

SO CONSTRUCTION TRADES, WELDING HVC TECH, UH, SHOULD BE AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STUDENTS BEYOND, YOU KNOW, BEYOND FOLKS WHO ARE MAYBE HEADING TO COLLEGE.

SO WITH THAT, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY FORMAL PRESENTATION IN HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WOULD CALL ON LAW DIRECTOR, DAVE MONTGOMERY TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, CALL ON ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF YOUR RIGHTS, MAY COMMENTS, OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ASK IF THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE PRESENT WHO WOULD WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVED ISSUE.

ASK IF THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE PRESENT WHO HAD WISHED TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE ISSUE, CALL ON MEMBERS OF THE NEW BRIGHT CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

MY LUCKY DAY, UM, HAS ONE LAST TIME, IF THERE'S ANY PERSONS PRESENT WHO WISHED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE ISSUE, BARRING FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE M J C 22 DASH 27 IS HEREBY CLOSED.

IS ITEM 11 F AND I'M ALIVE AND A HALF, AND THERE WERE DEATHS TO APPROVE A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND REZONING TO PLAY IN THE OFFICE, A PO FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 76, 11 OLD TROY PIKE, AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER 5 0 1 4 0 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CASE BDP TWO, TWO DASH 13 AT THE FIRST READING.

NEXT UP UNDER OUR ADMINISTRATION

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Basic Development Plan And Rezoning To Planned Office (PO) For The Property Located At 7611 Old Troy Pike And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 04005 0140 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case BDP 22-13). (first reading)]

AND NEXT I WOULD CALL ON OUR,

[01:50:02]

I DIDN'T SEE A MANAGER BRYANT ANY FURTHER COM UH, YES, THERE, JUST AS A REMINDER TO COUNCIL, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS FOR THE EMERGENCY FACILITY AT ULTRA TAYLORSVILLE AS DISCUSSED THE WORD SESSION, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT COUNSEL WAIVE THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN READINGS AS THEIR APPROVAL AS A CONDITION OF CLOTHES.

AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY TO EXPEDITE THE ADVANCEMENT OF THIS PROJECT.

THANKS, BRIAN.

AND WE HAD DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING AND ADOPT THE TIME THIS EVENING ARC MOTION TO WAIVE THE EMOTION THAT WE OBSERVE.

SECOND, SECOND THOUGHT.

OH, SECOND, THE EMOTION AND THE SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON WAITING? YES.

11, G ITEM 11 G AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF OLD TROY PIKE AND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 4 0 0 5 0 0 1 5 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE COMMISSION AND CASE MJC 22 DASH 21 AT THE FIRST READING AND BRIAN, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS FOR THE SHEETZ GAS STATION, UH, IN TONIGHT'S PUBLIC SECTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, UH, WITH THIS LEGISLATION, UH, I'M INTENDING TO VOTE NO, ON THE SECOND READING IN A TWO WAY, THE SECOND READING, AS WELL AS WHENEVER THIS ORDINANCE COMES UP.

UH, THE ISSUE FOR ME IS THE LACK OF FUNDING FOR THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, AS I'VE STATED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

AND, UH, WITH THAT, I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE, UH, THAT DEDICATION.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, JOHNNY, MR. OTTO? YES.

SO A MOTION TO WAIVE REQUIRES SIX VOTES.

SO EMOTIONAL WAVE FAILS FIVE TO TWO.

SO THIS WILL MOVE ON TO SAY SECOND READING AT THE NEXT MEETING.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Major Change To The Basic Development Plan For The Property Located At The Northeast Corner Of Old Troy Pike And Taylorsville Road And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 04005 0015 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case MJC 22-21). (first reading)]

UH, AND, UH, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED AND WITH THEIR DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION THAT WAS RECOMMENDED PAST THE TIME TO A SECOND READING.

IS THERE A MAJORITY OBJECTION TO MOVING ON TO A SECOND READING? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE THIS.

I'M JUST A SECOND READING AS WELL.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 11

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Basic Development Plan For The Property Located At 6209 Brandt Pike And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 03912 0140 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case BDP 22-25). (first reading)]

H ITEM 11 H AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THAT BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 2 0 9 BRAND PIKE AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PERSONAL NUMBER 9 1 2 0 1 4 0 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAN, AND ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE BDP 22 DASH 25, THE FIRST STREET, RIGHT? UH, YES, THERE, THIS IS A TO CLARIFY, THIS IS A RELATED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT FOR THE 135 SENIOR APARTMENT UNITS AND THE 192 MARKET RATE APARTMENT UNITS LOCATED AT THE SITE, COMMONLY KNOWN AS MARION MEADOWS.

THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION TO ADVANCE THIS TO A SECOND.

GREAT.

THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION, THE RECOMMENDATION.

ANY OBJECTION, MOVING THIS TO A SECOND READING CASING, NONE.

WE'LL MOVE TO A SECOND READING.

AND NEXT IS ITEM 11.

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Major Change To The Combined Basic And Detailed Development Plan For The Property Located At 5400 Chambersburg Road And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 04004 0032 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case MJC 22-27). (first reading)]

I OH, 11 I AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A MAJOR CHANGE, THE COMBINED BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5,400 CHAMBERSBURG ROAD AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER 4 0 0 3 2 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE MJC 22 DASH 27 AT THE FIRST STREET.

GOT IT.

THIS, UH, ITEM RELATES TO THE PUBLIC HEARING MATTER INVOLVING THE ADDITION TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE PLANNING VARIOUS.

YOU USED THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SITE AT THE WORK SESSION, EXCUSE ME, TO WAIVE THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN, UH, READINGS INTO ADOPT AS THE SECOND, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO ADVANCE THIS PROJECT, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL IN A TIMELY MANNER.

RECOMMENDATION WAS THE WAY THE SECOND READING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO WAVE MOTION TO WAVE? OKAY.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. LYONS? NO, THIS KITCHEN.

MR. OTTO MOTION TO WAIVE CARRIES SIX TO ONE SORT OF MOTION TO ADOPT.

CLICK, MOVE TO ADOPT FOR A SECOND.

MARK.

SECOND MOTION.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? THIS IS KITCHEN.

MR. LYONS, NO MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

[01:55:03]

NEXT IS

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Community Reinvestment Area Agreement With Hayden Properties, LLC Under Certain Terms And Conditions. (first reading)]

11 J OKAY.

ADAM 11, J A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A COMMUNITY RE-INVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH HAYDEN PROPERTIES, LLC, UNDER CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS AT THE FIRST READING.

K ITEM 11, K AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ADVANCES AND TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS FUNDS OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO AND AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 1.

AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ENABLES THE MASTER DEVELOPER BROAD REACH LLC, UH, TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO TAYLORSVILLE AND OLD TROY PIKE AS WAS ACTUALLY OUTLINED EARLIER THIS EVENING IN THE PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHEETZ GAS STATION.

THANKS BRIAN RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION AND DISCUSSION WAS SO ADOPT THE I MISS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION DON? SOMEWHAT.

IS THERE A SECOND? NANCY, SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. RATA? YES.

THIS IS KITCHEN MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

NEXT IS ITEM 11,

[ An Ordinance Authorizing Advances And Transfers Between Various Funds Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio And Amending Ordinance No. 2021-O-2511 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2022 And Ending December 31, 2022. (first reading)]

I SHOWED AS 2 5 1 1 BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF YOUR BRIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2022 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2022 AT THE FIRST STREET.

THIS ORDINANCE IS TO, UH, MOVE FUNDS TO APPROPRIATE ACCOUNTS SO THAT THE CITY CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY.

UH, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE PASSED, UH, TONIGHT WITH A WAVING OF THE SECOND READING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO WAIT, NANCY MARK, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND TO WAVE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION TONY MS. BAKER? YES.

AND NEXT 13 EMOTION FOR ADOPTION.

IT'S NOT ONE OF TOE DOG.

SORRY, A SECOND.

ANYTHING I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON ADOPTION? TONY MR. CAMPBELL.

THIS IS KITCHEN MR. WEBB.

MYSPACE.

IS ITEM 11, L ITEM 11 L AN ORDINANCE TO LEVY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR THE REPAIR AND RECONSTRUCTION OF SIDEWALKS, CURBS AND GUTTERS DRIVE AWAY APPROACHES AND A PERTINENT.

THE NEXT

[ An Ordinance To Levy Special Assessments For The Repair And Reconstruction Of Sidewalks, Curbs And Gutters, Driveway Approaches And Appurtenances Thereto On Parts Or All Of Certain Streets In The City Of Huber Heights Referred To As The 2022 Sidewalk Program, And Declaring An Emergency. (first reading)]

IS THERE TWO ON PARTS ARE ALL UP CERTAIN STREETS IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS REFERRED TO AS THE 2022 SIDEWALK PROGRAM AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AT THE FIRST STREET.

UH, THIS LEGISLATION EMPOWERS THE CITY TO LEVY, UH, EXPENSES, NOT PREVIOUSLY PAID BY PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, UM, WAIVE THE SECOND READING AND ADOPT THIS EVENING SO THAT THIS MATTER CAN BE TIMELY FILED WITH THE COUNTY ASSESSOR.

AND THIS WAS, UH, WAVING THE WAY THE SECOND READING WAS ALSO, WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE TO, OH, YES, THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

IS THERE A MOTION TO WAIT, NANCY? IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR WAVING ANY DISCUSSION, DON, JUST QUICKLY.

I'D LIKE TO THANK JIM BELL'S FOR HIS EXPLANATION ON THE NEED FOR THE WAVING OF THE SECOND READING, DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.

DID A GOOD JOB OF THAT.

THANKS TOM.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, TONY MRS. BURSCH YES.

MOST OF THE WAVE CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

WAS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT? I NEEDED SO MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

SECOND MOTION.

AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTION? TONY MR. OTTO? YES.

MS. BAKER, MR. CAMPBELL.

THIS IS VERSION YES.

THIS FEELS, AGAIN LIKE A BIT OF A BAND-AID SIDE.

ALSO.

THE NEXT IS ITEM 11.

[ A Resolution Establishing And/Or Amending The City Of Huber Heights Organizational Chart And Authorizing The New Personnel Staffing Levels As Detailed Below. (first reading)]

MM.

ITEM 11:00 AM A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING AND, OR AMENDING THE CITY OF HUMAN RIGHTS, ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AND AUTHORIZING THE NEW PERSONNEL STAFFING LEVELS AS DETAILED BELOW WITH THE FIRST GRADE COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THIS, UH, THIS RESOLUTION, UH, ESTABLISHES SPECIFICALLY THE POSITION OF ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER AS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

IS THERE A MOTION MARK MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS OF CLINTON? YEAH, I, I, I JUST FEEL THIS POSITION.

UH, IT FEELS MORE LIKE A BAND-AID AND RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO DO SOME SERIOUS REPAIRS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL UNFILLED POSITIONS, CITY MANAGER, UM, DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

AND, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS RECENTLY ADDED.

UH, I FEEL THAT WE NEED TO ADD THOSE OTHER POSITIONS GO INTO A MORE PERMANENT SITUATION MOVING FORWARD.

[02:00:01]

I CAN'T SUPPORT AT THIS TIME.

I THINK BRIAN WAS CERTAINLY TO HELP.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT TO DO AS WELL, BUT IT WAS A PERMANENT POSITION.

COULD YOU UPDATE US OR UPDATE MR. RADO AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE OFFERS TO MAKE THOSE OTHER TWO PERMANENT POSITIONS? YES.

SO WE, UM, WE'VE EXTENDED OFFERS REGARDING THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POSITION, UH, WHICH HAVE BEEN RESPECTFULLY DECLINED BY THOSE THAT WE SOLICITED.

SO WE ARE NOW IN THE MARKET.

UH, AN OFFER HAS BEEN MADE WITH REGARD TO THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE WERE WAITING TO HEAR BACK WITH RESPECT TO THAT PARTICULAR OFFER, AND THEN WE'LL KNOW HOW TO ADVANCE FORWARD WITH THAT POSITION AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE SIT CURRENTLY ON THE, UH, SENIOR STAFFING POSITIONS.

BRIAN, DO YOU NEED THIS POSITION? YES.

THIS POSITION WE'LL DO.

UM, IN THE SHORT TERM, UH, LET'S, LET'S CALL IT IN THE ABSENCE OF STAFF CONDITION WHERE WE ARE NOW.

UM, DISPOSITION WOULD HELP US, UM, STAY ON TOP OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE, UH, WITH, WITH THE POSITIONS WE DO HAVE FILLED, UM, AS WE BEGIN TO FILL THOSE SENIOR LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, UH, THIS, UH, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER POSITION WILL ALLOW US TO BECOME MORE PROACTIVE IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO DO.

SO, UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, TO SEEK AND APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING, UH, TO ADVANCE MORE, UH, DEFINITIVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WITH RESPECT TO OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THIS POSITION WOULD HELP US BE ABLE TO DO IS WE BEGIN TO FILL THOSE, UH, THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP POSITIONS.

UH, AND THEN OVER TIME WE FEEL THAT WE CAN EFFECTIVELY INTEGRATE THIS POSITION IN THE ORGANIZATION.

LONG-TERM THROUGH ATTRITION, UM, AT A COUPLE OF OTHER POSITIONS.

SO, UH, WE HAVE TRIED TO GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO THE CONCERNS YOU'VE EXPRESSED.

MR. OTTO, IS THERE ANYTHING, IS THERE ANY OF THAT COUNSEL HAS COUNSEL GIVEN YOU ALL THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED TO FILL THE OTHER TWO SENIOR LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ABILITY TO INCREASE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES INTERESTED IN THE POSITIONS? NO, YOU HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO TO MAKE THIS, UH, MAKE THIS ORGANIZATION FUNCTION AS EFFECTIVELY AS IT COULD HAVE YOU DONE EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, AND UTILIZE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE TO TRY AND HIRE THOSE OTHER TWO POSITIONS.

WE HAVE, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ANYONE ELSE AT? YES.

UM, BRIAN, UM, HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS PARAMEDICS DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN THE CITY? UH, EMPLOYED.

I'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH A HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

AND WHEN COUNCIL DECIDED TO CHANGE THE ORG CHART TO ADD THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS, DID THEY FUND THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS? UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT DID OCCUR YES.

THAT THEY FUND THAT WE FUNDED THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS.

THE ONES RECENTLY THE WOODS RECENTLY, THE AMENDED, I'M SORRY.

YOU'LL HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY.

MIND.

ARE YOU TO REFERRING WITHIN THE RECENT PAST THE LAST FOUR MONTHS? FIVE MONTHS? NO.

SO WE HAVEN'T FUNDED THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS.

I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THAT AMENDMENT HAD PASSED TO ADD THOSE THREE POSITIONS.

I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF AMENDMENTS TO THE UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD, BUT WE DID, UH, AMEND THE ORG CHART AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

THERE WAS RESOLUTION, THOSE BOTH PASSED.

BUT THE ORDINANCE TO ADD THE FUNDING WENT TO A SECOND READING AND IT WAS VOTED DOWN.

SO THE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED, BUT NOT BEEN FUNDED.

ALREADY AUTHORIZED POSITIONS.

AND, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE, UH, MEMORY, UH, TONY DO YOU IS THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY WITH THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION WAS ADMITTED THAT THE POSITIONS, BUT THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS TO FUND THAT WAS VOTED DOWN THIS, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MATT MAYER, FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M A NO VOTE ON THIS THING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, ANOTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE REASON THAT THE FUNDING WAS VOTED NO IS BECAUSE OUR FIRE CHIEF ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS HAS COME TO THIS COUNCIL INSTEAD OF THAT TABLE AND SAID THAT HE DID NOT WANT TO ADD FIREFIGHTERS TO THE ORG CHART TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UNTIL JANUARY OF 2023, WHEN THEY HAD A BETTER POOL OF QUALIFIED APPLICANTS BECAUSE OF THE GRADUATION TIMES, UH, THAT THE CURRENT FIREFIGHTERS, UH, THEY BELIEVED THEY WOULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE TO CHOOSE FROM.

SO YES, THE ORG CHART WAS CHANGED TO ALLOW FOR THOSE, AND THEN THE FUNDING WASN'T APPROVED THAT WAY WE COULD.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR ANYONE LISTENING AT THE FIRE CHIEF'S REQUEST NOT TO HIRE THOSE FIREFIGHTERS UNTIL JANUARY OF 2023, MARK.

IN REGARDS TO YOUR COMMENT, IS IT MADE BECAUSE YOU THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AN ASSISTANT AND NOT AN ASSISTANT TO IT WAS MADE, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE LOTS OF SEVERAL MULTIPLE POSITIONS THAT ARE GOING UNFILLED AND WE'RE CREATING MORE POSITIONS WITHOUT FILLING

[02:05:01]

I THINK THAT WE COULD DO, UH, PROVIDE A LOT MORE HELP TO CITY STAFF BY PROVIDING THEM WITH A FIRM, A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, THE COMMUNITY OR DIRECTOR.

UM, YEAH, I THINK THOSE THINGS WOULD, IT'S BETTER SERVICE THAN AN ASSISTANT.

BRIAN, IF YOU FILL THE PLANNER AND THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

DO YOU STILL NEED THIS POSITION? YES, SIR.

THIS POSITION DOES STILL HAVE VALUE TO THE ORGANIZATION.

AND ARE YOU DOING, ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING THOSE OTHER TWO POSITIONS? YES, SIR.

AND IF THIS ITEM WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE FUNDING OF THREE FIREFIGHTERS, WOULD YOU START VOTING YES.

ON THE PROJECTS YOU'VE BEEN VOTING? NO.

ON, ARE YOU SERIOUS YET? DEAD SERIOUS.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY POSITION FOR THE FUNDING OF THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS.

ARE WE GOING TO HIRE THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS ONCE THE FUNDING'S IN PLACE? WOULD THAT BE PART OF THE SURE.

YOU GIVE ME YOUR WORD THAT YOU'LL HAVE YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT.

I'M ASKING IF, IF THIS WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE FUNDING FOR THREE FIREFIGHTERS AND THEN YOU'VE COME BACK WITH THE HIRING.

WOULD YOU START VOTING YES.

FOR THE PROJECT YOU'VE BEEN VOTING? NO.

FOR YES.

NOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT I'VE GOT YOUR SUPPORT ON THE HIRING OF, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT'S OBVIOUS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR WE WOULD FUND AND HIRE THOSE FIREFIGHTERS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

NO, NO TRICKS, NO.

NOTHING ELSE.

JUST STRAIGHTFORWARD.

I HAVE YOUR WORD ON THAT.

OH, I'M NOT GIVING YOU MY WORD.

I WAS JUST ASKING A QUESTION, BRIAN.

WHEN DO YOU GUYS PLAN ON HIRING OR FUNDING AND THEN REESE SEARCHING AND RECRUITING THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD, THE IDEA WOULD BE ONCE THE BUDGET OR 2023 IS PREPARED, UM, WHICH WILL BEGIN THAT PROCESS IN AUGUST.

SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH, UM, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THERE'LL BE AN ELIGIBILITY LIST CREATED FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PROVIDED THAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE.

UH, IN 2023, WE WOULD MAKE THE HIRES FROM THAT ELIGIBILITY LIST AS FUNDS WERE AVAILABLE.

AND IF THAT FUNDING WAS DONE IN CONCERT TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, YOU MOVE THAT TIMETABLE UP A LITTLE BIT.

MOST LIKELY, NO.

WE ALREADY HAVE CONSTRAINTS WITH RESPECT TO POSITIONS THAT ARE MOVING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY.

SO THERE ARE ALREADY POSITIONS THAT, UH, ARE EFFECTIVELY IN LINE IN QUEUE AHEAD OF THOSE, THOSE POSITIONS.

AND SO WE WOULD NEED TO WORK THROUGH THOSE AS WELL, BECAUSE THOSE ARE KEY TO OUR ORGANIZATION.

AND ARE THOSE THINGS YOU WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON IF WE WAITED UNTIL THE TIMETABLE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE CURRENTLY FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS? YES, SIR.

SO IF WE AMENDED THIS ITEM TO INCLUDE THE FUNDING AND THE HIRING OF THREE FIREFIGHTERS, YOU COULD BEGIN TO MOVE THE THINGS OUT OF THE WAY NECESSARY TO PROCEED FORWARD IN A LEGITIMATE WAY TO THE HIRING OF NOT ONLY THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, BUT THE ADDITIONAL THREE FIREFIGHTERS.

PROVIDED THAT THERE WAS A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION THAT PROVIDED FOR THOSE FUNDS.

WE WOULD QUEUE THOSE POSITIONS WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE CURRENT LIST SO THAT WE COULD HIRE THEM WHEN QUALIFIED PERSONNEL WERE AVAILABLE.

GLENN, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING ANOTHER QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE LAST ONE.

YOU'RE NOT FOR THIS UNTIL WE'VE HIRED IN PUTTING IN PLACE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL FOR A PLANNER AND AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND THE CITY MANAGER.

MAY HAVE YES.

UH, BRIAN NEEDS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

HE NEEDS A PLANNER.

AND JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU DO NEED AN ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

THAT POSITION DOES HAVE VALUE TO THIS ORGANIZATION.

OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE A CITY MANAGER AND WE DIDN'T.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE VOTES TONIGHT TO GET ANYTHING PASSED.

SO, UH, I, I, I WILL CONSIDER, UH, SOME CREATIVE WAY OF MAKING SURE BRIAN HAS THE PEOPLE IN PLACE.

I AGREE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD WE CAN BE IN GLEN.

I MEAN, THIS IS, UM, WE WE'VE HAD AN

[02:10:01]

SO TO SAY THAT IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CITY MANAGER OR A CITY MANAGER HAS TO COME FIRST IS VERY HYPOCRITICAL BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE THREE CITY MANAGERS AND YOU COULDN'T, WE'VE GOT THE CITY MANAGER, ACTING CITY MANAGER TELLING US AND YOU THAT HE NEEDS THIS PERSON TO HELP HIM DO HIS JOB UNTIL YOU GUYS CAN VOTE TO HIRE A CITY MANAGER.

SO WE'VE EVEN TRUSTED BRIAN TO DO THIS JOB.

AND HE'S TELLING US HE NEEDS HELP.

WE'VE HEARD FROM STAFF, FROM OTHER STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE OVERLOADED, THAT THEY NEED HELP, THAT SOMEBODY CAN HELP DO THAT.

SO TO NOT HIRE THE CITY MANAGER PERMANENTLY AND THEN WITHHOLD PERSONNEL TO HELP THE ONE THAT YOU'RE ENTRUSTING TO DO THE JOB, TO WITHHOLD THAT, TO LET HIM DO THE JOB BETTER UNTIL THE EIGHT OF YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN REGARD TO HIRING A CITY MANAGER.

UH, I JUST GOT TO SAY, SEEMS JUST, SEEMS REALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

AND, UH, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

I CANNOT MAKE ANY SENSE OF IT AT ALL.

UM, FROM THE FIREFIGHTER PERSPECTIVE, DOES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DOES THAT GENERATE MONEY INTO THE OVERALL CITY COFFERS RYAN? YES, IT DOES, SIR.

SO WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS THAT ARE GENERATED BY ALL THE PROJECTS THAT MR. LYONS IS VOTING, NO ONE WITH SOME OF THAT MONEY, BE ABLE TO BE USED TO HIRE THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT HE'S BEEN ASKING FOR FOR ALL THIS TIME.

SO ED, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MAKES SENSE.

WE NEED THE MONEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GENERATES REVENUE FOR THE CITY THAT WE CAN USE TO HIRE NOT ONLY FIREFIGHTERS, BUT POLICE OFFICERS, UH, TO HIRE THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, PEOPLE THAT WE NEED.

SO I CAN'T BELIEVE SO.

YOU ASKED MARK IF HE WAS SERIOUS, I WOULD ASK YOU, ARE YOU SERIOUS THAT YOU'RE HOLDING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT GENERATE REVENUE FOR THIS CITY HOSTAGE OVER THESE MYTHICAL THREE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE DID ADD TO THE ORG CHART BACK IN 2018, AND WE HAVE FROM 36 TO 39, WE'VE ADDED THOSE FIREFIGHTERS.

THEY'VE BEEN HIRED IN 2018 WHERE THESE ADDITIONAL THREE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE COME UP IS JUST BEYOND ME.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW THE NEED FOR THEM.

THE FIRE CHIEF HAS SAID, I DON'T NEED THEM UNTIL 2023.

ALL THIS DISCUSSION HAS HAPPENED OPENLY IN THE PUBLIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GENERATES REVENUE FOR THIS CITY THAT WE CAN SPEND ON FIREFIGHTERS, BUT YET YOU'RE VOTING NO FOR THE REVENUE STREAM THAT WILL HIRE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE SO ADAMANT AND HIRING.

I CAN'T MAKE ANY SENSE OF ANY OF THIS.

SO I WOULD ASK THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU.

WHAT YOU ASKED TO MARK, ARE YOU SERIOUS? IT MAKES NO SENSE.

NOBODY CAN MAKE ANY SENSE OF THIS MARK.

THIS ISN'T GOING TO PASS.

I'M GOING TO WORK IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

UH, IF ED'S AVAILABLE AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE, BECAUSE POINT IS YOU DO NEED AN ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY PLANS ARE.

I'LL COME BACK TO YOU AT, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ON TOPIC, BUT A LITTLE BIT OFF.

SO BRIAN, HOW MUCH YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THIS NUMBER, HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE YOU SAY BY THESE POSITIONS NOT BEING FILLED THIS YEAR? I MEAN, SINCE WE WERE DOWN SO MUCH STAFF, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE POSSIBLE NUMBER OF THAT WE'VE SAVED.

SO, UM, THE CITY MANAGER WAS BUDGETED FOR $160,000 IN THE BUDGET.

UM, THE SALARY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE OTHER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER'S POSITION IS $130,000.

SO ALMOST 300,000 BETWEEN THOSE, THOSE TWO POSITIONS IS THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE NOT SPENT.

UH, AND THEN WE HAD SOME TRANSITION THAT A FEW OTHER POSITIONS IN THE ORGANIZATION.

SO RIGHT NOW, UM, ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, WE'RE PROBABLY AROUND $350,000 OF BUDGETED SALARIES THAT HAVE GONE ON SPENT FOR A VARIETY OF POSITIONAL TRANSITION ISSUES.

WOULD WANT, BUT IF COUNCIL WERE TO APPROVE IT, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD BE REALLOCATED.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT A NUMBER IS.

I KNOW I'D, ONCE IT, FOR FIREFIGHTERS, I WAS LOOKING AT, IF THAT WOULD FUND MAYBE A POSSIBLE MY FIST RATE OF WATERLINES, LET HER FINISH, PLEASE.

YOU GOT, YOU GOT, YOU.

CAN'T DO THAT.

UM, DEPENDS ON, DEPENDS ON THE FUNDING SOURCE.

SO SOME MONIES FOR THOSE SALARIES ARE SPECIFICALLY OR SPECIFIC PURPOSES.

UM, AND SO THE DOLLARS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THAT, MAYBE LET'S CALL IT A THIRD AND I'M JUST BALLPARKING.

I I'D HAVE TO LOOK A, A THIRD OF THAT COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED FOR THE PURPOSES THAT YOU

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MA'AM COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL.

YOU BROUGHT UP A VERY INTERESTING PROPOSAL THERE.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WE VOTED TO CHANGE THE ORG CHART AND ADD FIREFIGHTERS.

THE FIRE CHIEF STOOD BEFORE US AND LAID OUT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.

UM, WELL DONE PRESENTATION ON THE NEED FOR FIREFIGHTERS.

AND AS THE MAYOR STATED, IT'S 2023 AND 2023 IS A BLINK AWAY.

SO IS THERE ANY MERIT IN DISCUSSING, AMENDING THIS AGENDA ITEM TO INCLUDE FUNDING FOR THREE FIREFIGHTERS SO THAT WE CAN GET A LEG UP ON OUR 2023? IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE TO US, UH, DOING, AS YOU STATED, AMENDING THIS, UM, PARTICULAR ITEM TO ADD FUNDING FOR THREE FIREFIGHTERS AND LET'S GET THE PROCESS ROLLING.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS AND I'VE SPOKEN TO CHIEF KNISELY.

UM, I DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS, BUT, UH, GRADUATING CLASSES, PERSPECTIVE, CANADA, LESS AND SO ON.

SO I'M ASSUMING THERE'S GOING TO BE A TIME LAG.

AND AGAIN, I'LL JUST SAY THAT THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY.

IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME TO GO AHEAD AND MODIFY THIS AGENDA ITEM TO INCLUDE FUNDING FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS? UH, MAYOR YOU POST A QUESTION TO ME? UM, I JUST, THE QUICK ANSWER IS I AM SERIOUS.

UM, I WILL DISAGREE WITHOUT BEING DISAGREEABLE, BRIAN.

UM, WHEN FUNDING IS APPROVED FOR THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN, FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

CORRECT.

AND I THINK, AND I THINK THE ANSWER YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY THIS YEAR, HOW LONG WOULD THAT PROCESS TAKE? YOU SAID UP TO FIVE MONTHS.

SOUNDS ABOUT CORRECT.

SO IN THE 2023 BUDGET, LET'S JUST SAY, HYPOTHETICALLY, WE ADD ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, THE BUD TO THAT BUDGET JANUARY 1ST BUDGET COMES ONLINE, THEN THAT HIRING OF THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS WOULD BE STARTING AT THAT TIME.

CORRECT? JANUARY.

SO HOWEVER MANY MONTHS IT TAKES AT THAT TIME.

SO, UH, MR. CAMPBELL, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, UH, FUNDING OF IT, THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS SOONER, AS OPPOSED TO, UH, LATER WOULD CERTAINLY BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN.

AND, UM, THAT WOULD CAUSE ME TO, UM, GO BACK TO WHERE I WAS BEFORE I STARTED THIS INITIATIVE.

SO, UM, CERTAINLY, UM, WE CAN TALK IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, UH, ON AVAILABLE QUITE A BIT, I HAVE A FLEXIBLE SCHEDULE, BUT I THINK YOU CAN GENERALLY COUNT ON MY WORD, MY HONOR, UH, TO FULFILL THAT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

MA'AM SO, AND ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF THE FUNDING WAS APPROVED, BUT THEY WEREN'T HIRED UNTIL 20, 23? YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, THEY'RE NOT HIRED UNTIL 2020.

WHY WOULD THEY WAIT UNTIL HIRE HIM IN 2026? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CHIEF REQUESTED.

THAT'S WHEN THE BIGGER POOL OF CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE, THAT HE WANTS TO HAVE.

MAYOR, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY REASON TO FIND THEM.

NOW, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HIRE THEM UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

WELL, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE JUST, SO YOU HAD TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

CAUSE I THOUGHT YOU, CAUSE YOU WERE SAYING, YOU SAID WHEN WE GET TO 20, 23, THE BUDGET YEARS ROLLED AROUND AND YOU ASKED BRIAN IS THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO HIRE THOSE FIREFIGHTERS.

HE SAID, YES.

IF THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED MY QUESTION IS, IF, IF IT'S IN THE BUDGET.

TO THAT EITHER, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND.

IF IT'S IN THE BUDGET, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE BUDGET.

WELL, ME TO ME, IF WE SMOKE SCREEN, KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, NOT EVEN PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO BE DISAGREEABLE.

THERE'S PLENTY OF ISSUES HERE.

I MADE A GENERAL STATEMENT.

IF WE FUND, THEN I EXPECT THE FIREFIGHTERS TO BE HIRED SOONER.

AS OPPOSED TO LATER, I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.

IF WE START THAT PROCESS, NOW IT'S BETTER TO START IT NOW THEN TO START IT IN JANUARY OF THE HIRING PROCESS.

SO I'M NOT BEING DISAGREEABLE

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I MEAN, IF, IF THIS IS THE NEGOTIATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON THE NEGOTIATION.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL BE CLEAR CRYSTAL CLEAR WITH MR. CAMPBELL.

SO I'M, I'M ASKING, IS THERE AN ISSUE WHERE IF THE FUNDING IS APPROVED, ARE YOU OKAY WITH TAKING THE, THE FIRE CHIEF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT HE NOT HIRE THOSE CANDIDATES UNTIL HE HAS THE BIGGER POOL OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES TO CHOOSE FROM? THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY ISSUE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FIRE CHIEF STATED TO US CLEARLY IS HE WANTED THE BIGGER POOL OF CANDIDATES TO HIRE FROM.

UM, AND THAT'S, AND THAT WAS HIS RECOMMENDATION.

AND I, AND I KNOW WE, WE SET THE POLICY AND ALL THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE THE ADVICE ALSO OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HIRE OR THAT THE SAME MANAGER HIRES.

AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE CHIEF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS.

I THINK HE ALSO RECOMMENDED, UH, AN ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION WITH THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS FOR 2023 AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL THREE IN 2024.

SO WE WOULD HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ON THE FIREFIGHTING STAFF.

I THINK THE QUESTION IS TIMING, BUT IF THE ISSUE IS AROUND, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT OR DISAGREEMENT WITH THE FIRE CHIEF ABOUT WHEN WE, WHEN HE ACTUALLY HIRES THOSE FIREFIGHTERS, BECAUSE HE SAID HE WOULD PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL THE POOL OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES PASS THE GRADUATION AND THE POOL BECAME BIGGER THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS.

AND THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN DECEMBER.

I BELIEVE BRIAN IS THAT RIGHT? IS DECEMBER WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY HAS EVER DISAGREED WITH HIRING ADDITIONAL BRIEF FIREFIGHTERS OR NOT THE TIMING.

AND IT'S BEEN ABOUT ON THE FIRE SHEETS RECOMMENDATION.

MA'AM MR. LYONS, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT WANTING TO HIRE THREE FIREFIGHTERS.

AND I AM WITH HIM.

I'M FINE TO HIRE HIM AND HIRED FOUR FOR NEXT YEAR AND THREE FOR THE YEAR AFTER THAT.

BUT IF THEY HAVEN'T GRADUATED AND THE OTHER PART IS THEY HAVE TO PASS THEIR BOARDS BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN GET ON THE QUALIFIED LIST.

AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TILL THE END OF THE YEAR.

BUT IF YOU NOTICE ON I, DEPENDING ON FACEBOOK HERE IS A PROBATIONARY FIRE FIGHTER ON JULY 14TH.

SO WE HAVE BEEN HIRING.

SO I THINK TH TH ONE OF THE STRUGGLES WE HAD WAS THE ONGOING PROCESS OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD RETIRE.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE TO REFILL THOSE POSITIONS, BUT THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART CHANGE MADE IN 2018, WITH 36 FIREFIGHTERS THAT BECAME 39 FIREFIGHTERS.

AND THEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST THREE YEARS, THOSE FIREFIGHTERS HAD BEEN HIRED.

UM, NOW WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE WITH ONES THAT RETIRE AND WE HAVE TO NOT ONLY REFILL THOSE POSITIONS OR BACKFILL THOSE POSITIONS, BUT, UM, TRY TO MAINTAIN THE 39 THAT THE 39 THAT WE HAVE NOW.

SO I DON'T THINK I'VE HEARD ANYBODY DISAGREE THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO, OR ADD 42 FIREFIGHTERS.

UM, ADD UP TO THE THREE MORE TO GET TO 42 FROM 39.

UH, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY THEY WERE, THEY WERE AGAINST THAT.

I THINK WHAT I HEARD WAS THE ISSUE OF WHAT THE FIRE CHIEF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS ON WHEN TO BRING THEM ON BOARD.

UM, SO, SO THAT, THAT IS MY GENERAL QUESTION IS HIRERIGHT FUNDING THEM, MAKING SURE THE POSITIONS ARE IN THEIR ORG CHART AND READY TO GO.

WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THE PRESENTATION AND FIRE CHIEF.

HE WANTS TO HIRE THREE PLUS AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, CAPTAIN FOR NEXT YEAR.

UM, THAT HAS BEEN THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FIRE CHIEF.

I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY UP HERE, WOULD WE PLAY GAMES WITH THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE FIRE CHIEF REQUESTING THOSE, THOSE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL? UM, I COULDN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY NOT SUPPORTING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY.

I MEAN, WE KNOW HOW GOOD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS.

THEY'RE RANKED A TOP 5% IN THE NATION AND THAT'S WITH THE CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS.

THAT WAS PART OF THAT ISO CERTIFICATION.

SO, UH, NOBODY'S GOING TO BE AGAINST SUPPORTING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT I SUPPORT OUR FIRE CHIEF ABOUT WHEN HE SAYS HE NEEDS, BECAUSE HE'S DONE THIS BEFORE.

HE'S HIRED THEM BEFORE HE KNOWS WHEN THEY PASS.

HE KNOWS WHEN HE GRADUATE.

HE KNOWS WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE READY TO GO.

AND THAT'S, THAT HAS BEEN THE DISCUSSION.

SO I'M CLARIFYING FOR ANYBODY WHO HASN'T KNOWN OR IS WATCHING NOW, OR WATCH TOMORROW WHEN THIS BEING FINALLY GOES UP, THAT IS, THAT IS THE ISSUE, NOT HIRING FIREFIGHTERS, BUT WHEN THE CHIEF SAID HE WANTED MARK BRIAN.

REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD REGARDING I THINK THE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT, OR MAYBE THE WATER MAIN STUDY AND MR. LYONS WANTED TO EXPEDITE THE PROGRAM.

WAS, I BELIEVE IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR CORRECTING, UH, YOUR QUESTION, WE HAD FUNDED THREE ADDITIONAL, THREE WATER, MAIN REPLACEMENTS AND KICKED TO THE NEXT YEAR.

WHICH ONE WAS THAT? WAS IT THE STUDY OR THE ACTUAL CONTRACTING OUT? I THINK IT WAS THE STUDY.

WASN'T IT? IT

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STAFF FOUND ANOTHER FOURTH, ONE TO FIND, AND I THINK THAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.

UH, WAY BEFORE THAT, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT THE WATER MAIN PROJECT YOU HAD REACHED OUT TO ME, WE HAD TALKED TO RUSS AND BRIAN.

ORIGINALLY, YES, SIR.

ORIGINALLY, WHAT WAS THAT? WAS IT THE ACTUAL REPLACEMENT OF THE PIPE OR WAS IT THE STUDY? AND WE WERE TRYING TO ED'S CONCERN.

WAS HE WANTED TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS? UH, IT WAS THE, UH, THE PIPE IN THE GROUND.

IAN AND THE WATER LINING PROJECT AS WELL.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT TOOK A COUPLE OF SETTINGS BEFORE WE GOT INTO RESOLUTION? YES.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT, BRIAN? YES, SIR.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ED'S GOAL IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I BELIEVE SO.

COUNCIL WAS ON BOARD.

DO YOU AGREE BRIAN? YES, SIR.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU HIRE A FIREFIGHTERS, I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU DON'T FIRE HIRE THEM, BUT HERE'S WHAT I KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

THE ISSUE USED TO BE WHEN YOU JUST DESCRIBED MY NEW ISSUE, I CAN'T GET ANYTHING PAST, THAT'S MY NEW ISSUE.

AND I'D LIKE TO GET SOME PROJECTS PAST MY FIRST PROJECT THAT I LIKE TO SEE PAST IS MARRIED MEADOWS.

I KNOW IT NEED IS A NOTE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED THESE FIVE VOTES.

SO I'M, I'M ALL FOR WORKING WITH YOU IF IT'S AMENDING THAT LEGISLATION.

SO, BRIAN, AGAIN, YOU CAN GET YOUR ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WE CAN GET THIS CITY MOVING AGAIN, GET THE LONG GAME BROKE.

I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT GOOD.

AND I WOULD COMPARE THAT TO WHAT YOU AND I WORKED ON WITH THE WATER MAIN PIPES.

IS THAT WAY, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT? YES.

SO I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU LATER.

THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A RESOLUTION OR THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SEPARATE LEGISLATION FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR FIREFIGHTERS.

SO THIS WOULD HAVE TO MOVE TO, TO A WORK SESSION PRIOR TO MAKING TO ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, SO YES, SO, SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, KILL ME, GET THAT ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

THAT'S THE CASE.

WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION FUNDING FOR THE EXTRA APPROPRIATION AND THE FUNDING FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, UH, AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, UH, UNTIL WE HAVE A RESOLUTION WITH THAT BASED ON, ON MR. LYONS, HIS WORD, THEN, UH, IF THERE'S NOT A MAJORITY, OBJECTION, I'D RECOMMEND MOVING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON HIRING OF AN ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER TO THE SECOND READING.

AND, AND THE REASON IS YOU DON'T HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS IT.

I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T MOVE IT TO A SECOND RADIANT, IT'S GOING TO FAIL.

IT JUST CONTINUES THE LOG JAM.

AND THEN AGAIN, BRIAN, YOU NEED THIS POSITION FILLED.

AND JUST TO RECAP, YOU ARE WORKING HARD TO FILL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPER AND THE PLANNER.

A MOTION AND A SECOND, MR. LYONS.

THAT'S ONLY, WE WOULD JUST NEED A MARK AND KATE TO WITHDRAWAL THEIR FIRST AND SECOND THROUGH ABOUT, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

I NEED IT.

SO DO WE NEED FIVE VOTES OR SIX VOTES TO GET BRIAN HIS POSITION FIVE? DID I COUNT WRONG? YEAH, I DID.

EVERYBODY COUNTS WRONG.

I THINK YOU CAN CALL THE BOAT.

SO THOSE HERE, GLENN, IF I MAY, I'VE BEEN THROWN OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE PERSON AND THIS ONE PERSON, THIS ONE PERSON.

AND I WANT TO JUMP BACK TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE EIGHT PEOPLE TO PASS SOMETHING.

IT DOESN'T TAKE SEVEN, DOESN'T TAKE SIX.

IN MOST CASES IT TAKES FIVE.

UM, AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOES, I HAVE A PRETTY HARDY APPETITE FOR THAT.

I THINK I'VE PROVEN THAT, UM, AS IT NEEDED JUST POINTED OUT, UM, THERE, THERE COULD BE BATTERIES ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S SOME BIG MISREPRESENTATIONS THAT THERE'S LIKE A SIDES AND CONTROL.

AND IF ONE PERSON DOESN'T LIKE IT, OTHERS WON'T LIKE IT AUTOMATICALLY.

AND THAT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

THERE'S, THERE'S EIGHT PEOPLE UP HERE AND, UH, I KNOW AT LEAST FOUR OF THEM AREN'T, AREN'T, AREN'T GROUPED IN ANY PARTICULAR WAY.

AND, UH, THEY TEND TO VOTE ON THEIR OWN.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IN ACTION.

UM, SO, SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHO, HOW MANY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR WHICH THING, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY TELL YOU THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD VOTE FOR THAT I WOULD GUESS THAT, WELL, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT EDIT ANITA WOULDN'T VOTE FOR, AND I VOTED AGAINST RICHARD SHAW IN THE PAST AS WELL.

SO I KNOW, I KNOW I GUARANTEE YOUR VOTE ON THIS.

CAUSE I SAID I WAS.

YES, CORRECT.

CORRECT.

BUT I'M ONE OF EIGHT PEOPLE, WELL SEVEN HERE TONIGHT, SO, WELL, I'M GOING TO COUNT ON, UH, AND HE DOES THE ONE WHO'S REQUESTING THE CALL, THE VOTE.

SO I THINK SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, TONY CALL THE ROLE.

WE HAVE

[02:30:01]

WHICH ONE IS MOTION TO HIRE THE ASSISTANT TWO PASSES FIVE TO TWO.

[ A Resolution Establishing And/Or Amending The Salary Ranges And Wage Levels For Employees Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio. (first reading)]

UP, WE HAVE ITEM 11 IN ITEM 11 AND A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING AND, OR ADMITTING THE SALARY RANGES AND WAGE LEVELS FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PUPIL RIGHTS ALIVE.

WITH THE FIRST READING COMMENTS, SIR, THE PERSON YOU'VE JUST AUTHORIZED ME TO HIRE WILL NOT WORK FOR FREE.

SO THIS RESOLUTION WILL ENSURE THAT THAT PERSON IS PAID A FAIR AND REASONABLE SALARY AT THE MARKET.

WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU ADOPT THAT LEGISLATION THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION, DON SOMOS? IS THERE A SECOND? NANCY JACKET EMOTION ON A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS KITCHEN.

THIS WHISPERS MR. OTTO.

NO, MR. LYONS, NO MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO TWO.

NEXT UP AS ITEM 11.

OH, ITEM 11

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For Preparation Of Engineering Plans And Specifications For The Design Of Chambersburg Road West Improvements Project. (first reading)]

HOUR RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER, ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR PREPARATION OF ENGINEERING PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE DESIGN OF THE TROOPERS BIRD ROAD, WEST IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AT THE FIRST STREET.

RIGHT? UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

THIS RESOLUTION IS TO AUTHORIZE THE HIRING OF AN ENGINEER TO BEGIN TO REDESIGN OF CHAMBERSBURG WEST FROM ULTRA PIKE TO THE CITY LIMIT.

WAS THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THAT IT WAS, IS THERE A MOTION, DON? IS THERE A SECOND? NANCY, SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION.

AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION TONY? MR. REP? YES.

NO, THIS IS KITCHEN MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

AND NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ A Resolution To Increase The Not To Exceed Maintenance Contract Amount And Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract Modification With Veolia Environment. (first reading)]

11:00 PM.

ADAM 11 P UH, RESOLUTION TO INCREASE THE, NOT TO EXCEED MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AMOUNT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT MODIFICATION WITH VEOLIA, UH, ENVIRONMENT AT THE FIRST STREET.

THIS RESOLUTION IS TO EMPOWER THE CITY TO WORK WITH ITS CONSULTANT, VIOLA, TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT OPERATIONS OF THE WATER SYSTEM.

AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING, WHICH WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION.

YES, IT WAS NANCY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY, GLENN, SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION MS. BAKER? YES.

MR. WEB, UH, MOTION DID PASS SEVEN TO ZERO, BUT I MISSED THE DISCUSSION.

GLENN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UH, UH, BRIAN, THIS WAS PRIMARILY A LOT OF THIS, AT LEAST IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WAS FOR, UM, REPAIRS TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR REPAIRS.

AND THIS IS ABOUT THE TIME COUNCIL SEES THIS LEGISLATION ANNUALLY, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN INCREASING QUITE A BIT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MORE ACTIVITY AND HIGHER PRICES AND WHATNOT.

UM, QUESTION, SINCE WE'RE ON WATER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPAIRS, HOW MANY AND OUR WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, HOW MANY HAVE WE REPLACED THIS YEAR IN 20 20, 2 OF THE FIVE OR FIVE ORIGINALLY STATED REDUCED TO THREE, TAKEN BACK TO FOUR.

HOW MANY HAVE WE DONE THIS YEAR? SO NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT FOUR OF THE FIVE HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO PROCEED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE HAVE AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR THAT WORK ON THREE OF THE FOUR, THE FOURTH, UM, THE FOURTH WILL BE AWARDED THE NEXT MEETING WHEN LEGISLATION IS PREPARED AND, UH, ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE MATERIALS HAVE BEEN ORDERED FOR THOSE MAINS.

SO AS SOON AS THEY CAN GET HERE, UH, THERE'LL BE REPEAT.

AND AS I UNDERSTAND, AND WE'RE TAUGHT WHERE WE'RE THINKING IT COULD BE END OF THE YEAR SOMETIMES BEFORE WE SEE THAT BASED ON WHAT THE VENDORS HAVE TOLD US.

YES, WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE PIPE, UH, AROUND NOVEMBER WITH CONSTRUCTION, BEGINNING IN DECEMBER, I'M THAT, UH, WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND NEXT YEAR WE SEE A INSTEAD OF THREE OR FIVE, WE SEE MORE LIKE EIGHT OR 10 SINCE WE'LL HAVE TO PLAY CATCH UP NEXT YEAR.

AND I THINK FOURTH STREET THAT WAS ADDED WAS CROOKSTON, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

TOM BERG WOULD BE THE FIFTH THAT WOULD GO INTO THE FIRST ROUND OF THE BUDGET FOR FRACTURE.

BUT CROOKSTON IS THE FOURTH STREET THAT'S BEING ADDED.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE TOMBERG, UM, OF THE TOM TOMBERG PROJECT, I BELIEVE IS IN EXCESS OF $600,000.

THAT'S YEAH.

THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA THIS YEAR.

CAN I ASK THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT TWO THIRDS OF THE SALARIES WE'VE SAVED TO SEE IF WE CAN ADD THE FIFTH STREET THIS YEAR.

SO THAT WOULD BE A POLICY DIRECTIVE OF COUNSEL AND

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SO EVEN IF THAT WERE THE CASE, CAN WE LOOK AT THE SIXTH, SEVENTH, EIGHTH, NINTH STREET THAT MIGHT BE NEXT YEAR, MOVING IT UP TO THIS YEAR? THE, THE ISSUE WITH THAT WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN ENGINEERED.

AND SO IF THOSE LET'S CALL IT THE NINTH STREET ON THE LIST OR THE 12TH STREET ON THE LIST, IF THAT HASN'T BEEN ENGINEERED, MOVING IT TO THIS YEAR, IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN EMPOWER US TO HAVE THE ENGINEERING DONE.

AND BY THE TIME THE ENGINEERING IS DONE, THEN WE WOULD BE INTO CONSTRUCTION YEAR 2023.

CAN YOU CHECK THOUGH TO SEE IF MAYBE THE SIXTH, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH STREETS CAN STAY WITHIN THAT BUDGET, BUT YET STILL GET THE WORK DONE THIS YEAR? I WILL BE HAPPY TO ASK THE ENGINEER WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S POSSIBLE.

Q A RESOLUTION INCREASING THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE EAST WATER MAIN EXTENSION PROJECT AT THE BURSARY.

AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 11, CUTE 11

[ A Resolution Increasing The Not To Exceed Amount And Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For The East Water Main Extension Project. (first reading)]

BRIAN.

AS WAS DISCUSSED WITH COUNSEL DURING THE WORK SESSION, THIS LIST LEGISLATION IS TO AUTHORIZE, UH, THE CONTRACT, UH, THE CITY TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE EAST WATER MAIN PROJECT.

AND WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION, WHICH WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION GLENN? UM, JUST, I WOULD ONCE MORE LIKE TO RESTATE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF, LIKE THIS PROJECT COULD POTENTIALLY BRING A LOT OF GOOD DEVELOPMENT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF THAT.

UM, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE NEW DEVELOPMENT TAKEOVER, UM, MONEY THAT COULD BE USED TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT CITY INFRASTRUCTURE FUND.

SO, UM, I I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT I REALLY HOPE TO SEE A WHOLE LOT MORE MOVEMENT MOVING FORWARD ON THE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND GETTING SOME OF OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE FIXED UP, UM, OR MY APPETITE COULD CHANGE.

SO I JUST WANT THAT OUT THERE.

UNDERSTOOD.

I, AND I WOULD JUST ADD TOO, AND I MEAN, IN GLENN, I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ITEM.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT I THINK PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL IS IN FAVOR OF THAT EAST MAIN PROJECT IS BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING THAT WILL AGAIN, GENERATE THE REVENUE THAT WOULD HELP FUND FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACED.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ALL OF OUR APPETITE TO SEE THAT.

SO I PUBLICLY AGREE WITH YOU 100% ON THAT MATTER.

I LIKE THIS AND I LIKE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO TO HELP US INVEST MORE INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY.

MARK BRIAN, WHAT'S THE PRICE TAG ON THE SIDE OF APPROXIMATELY, UH, OH GOSH, I'M JUST ROUGHLY, WE'RE PUSHING SOMETHING OVER 3 MILLION AND WE'RE DOING THIS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOBS.

WHEN WILL THE INVESTMENT PAY OFF IN EUROPE? IN MY OPINION IMMEDIATELY.

UH, THE PRINCIPLE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING THIS, THERE IS RELATIVE TO OUR SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH CLARK COUNTY.

UH, AND THAT WAS THE, UM, MAIN DRIVING FORCE IN COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED ON THAT.

AND I BELIEVE IT WAS AUGUST OF 2021.

UM, SUBSEQUENTLY WE'VE SEEN SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTEREST IN THE AREA OF THIS PROJECT.

UH, BUT, UH, THE PRINCIPLE PURPOSE WAS TO ADDRESS OUR CURRENT, UM, AGREEMENT AND THE ISSUES WITH THAT AGREEMENT, UH, WITH CLARK COUNTY FOR WATER AND SEWAGE SERVICES.

SO IS THIS AGREEMENT WITH CLARK COUNTY, UH, PAYS OFF IN WHAT WAY TO THE CITIZENS IN YOUR BRIGHT, UM, SO IF COUNCIL WILL RECALL FROM THE BRIEFING IN AUGUST CLARK COUNTY WAS DEMANDING SOME SIGNIFICANTLY DETRIMENTAL TERMS FROM THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO AN, A FUTURE ANNEXATION AND JOINT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT CONDITIONS, UH, IN EXCHANGE FOR BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE UTILITY SERVICES TO, UH, OLD DOMINION, UH, OUR RESPONSE AND TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH CLARK COUNTY TO ADDRESS THEIR DEMANDS WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.

AND AT THE TIME THAT THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WERE STOLEN WAS THE TIME THAT THE ARPA FUNDS WERE ANNOUNCED AND MADE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY.

SO IN AN EFFORT TO PROTECT THE CITY'S LONG-TERM BEST INTEREST WITH RESPECT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE CITY, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THIS, THESE FUNDS BE MADE AVAILABLE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE WATER MAIN EAST IN THE SOAR MAIN EAST PROJECT.

AND THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND THAT WAS THE PREFACE THAT WE BRIEFED COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER.

SO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

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AND WHEN IT PAYS OFF, DO YOU KNOW TO WHAT LEVEL, JUST ROUGHLY IT PUTS THE CITY IN A POSITION TO NEGOTIATE WITH FUTURE DEVELOPERS AND ITS BEST INTEREST, UH, WHICH TO ME HAS, UH, A HIGHER INTRINSIC VALUE THAN ANY SPECIFIC AND IMMEDIATE PAYOFF TO THE CITY WITH A DIRECT PROJECT.

SO DO YOU, DO YOU THINK, DO YOU HOPE THAT IT'S AN A REVENUE STREAM THAT WE CAN USE TO REPLACE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUILD ROADS, THE SALARIES? SURE.

SO THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE GAINING THROUGH THIS EXTENSION IS NOW REVENUES THAT AREN'T THERE, THESE AREN'T WATER REVENUES THAT ARE COMING TO THE CITY, THIS IS WATER REVENUE, THAT'S BEING PAID TO CLARK COUNTY.

SO BY MAKING THIS CONNECTION, WE WILL NOW BE RECEIVING ALL THE SHITS.

THEY WILL BE RECEIVING, WE'LL BE PROVIDING ALL OF THE WATER SERVICE TO THE NORTHEAST COUNTY.

SO WE WILL THEN BE RECEIVING PAYMENTS FROM THOSE CUSTOMERS WHEN THIS CONNECTION IS CONDENSED, THE LEAST REASON WE'RE DOING THIS.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO ALYSSA TALKED ABOUT THE PENNIES FOCUSING ON THE DOLLARS.

WE'RE TALKING REAL MONEY HERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

AND ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE REDEVELOPMENT, WE'RE HOPING TO TAKE THE TAX INCENTIVES THAT WE'RE GAINING TO OFFSET COSTS AND CAUSE REDEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR IN SOUTH HUBER HEIGHTS.

WHEN WE BUILD AN APARTMENT BUILDING, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE, AS MAYOR GORE SAYS MORE EYEBALLS, MORE CARS, MORE TRAFFIC, MORE CUSTOMERS, AND REAP THE BENEFIT FROM THE TAX INCENTIVES.

THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THAT NOT ONLY IS THE DEVELOPERS GOING TO APPRECIATE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO APPRECIATE DIFFERENT.

AND IT'S JOBS YES OR NO AT OUR TAX RATE, I THINK AT TWO AND A QUARTER.

IT, IT, IT COULD BE A WALLET TO OUR GENERAL FUND, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

THAT THOSE MONIES WOULD GO INTO OUR GENERAL FUND AND YOU COULD HIRE COPS AND FIREFIGHTERS.

MARIA, SIR.

COULD YOU BUY WATER MAINS THROUGHOUT THE CITY? IN MOST INSTANCES THE DEVELOPERS BUILD THEM.

SO, SO THE AGING, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S FALLING APART, LIKE WATER MAINS COULD BE REDONE WITH MONIES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THIS INVESTMENT.

BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.

WHEN DO YOU THINK WE'LL SEE A BENEFIT FROM THIS ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS? JUST ROUGHLY, I'D SAY WITHIN FIVE, FIVE YEARS.

OUR ITEM 11 R A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2, 2 0 2 2 DASH R DASH 7 1 4 1 TO MODIFY THE CONTRACT WITH M AND T EXCAVATING LLC FOR THE 2022 WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AT THE FIRST STREET.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, TONY, MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

AND NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM 11,

[ A Resolution Amending Resolution No. 2022-R-7141 To Modify The Contract With M & T Excavating, LLC For The 2022 Water Main Replacement Program. (first reading)]

UH, THANK YOU SIR, TO PURSUANT TO CAT DISCUSSION BY COUNSEL EARLIER IN THE EVENING, THIS RESOLUTION ADDS, UH, THE FOURTH, A WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT, UH, STREETS TO THE LIST ON CROXTON.

AND WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THIS LEGISLATION TONIGHT, UH, AS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORK SESSION.

THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION MARK MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND.

I NEED A SECOND FOR THE MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MR. WEB SPEAKER, MR. CAMPBELL MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER

[12. City Official Reports and Comments]

12, STATE OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO SEE? ONE THING I WOULD ASK AND TONY WANT TO ADD A SPECIAL PRESENTATION TO THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY EIGHT.

SO THIS IS THE AUGUST 12TH COUNCIL MEETING.

UH, THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT, JASON ANNEX, UM, ASKED IF HE COULD COME AND SPEAK TO COUNCIL AS KIND OF AN INTRODUCTION.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD PAVE THE WAY FOR THE NEXT, UH, COUNCIL BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING.

UH, BUT, UH, SO YES, I TOLD HIM THAT WE'D ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA.

SO THERE'LL BE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION BY JASON UNIX AT THE NEXT, UH, AT, AT THE FIRST AUGUST COUNCIL MEETING.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YES.

THE MEETING NEXT WEEK.

IT'S ON MONDAY FOR THE WORK SESSION.

UH, IT IS ON MONDAY, UH, THAT WAS BUILT

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INTO THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY HAVE TO ADJUST IT, UH, FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, WHICH FALLS ON TUESDAY.

JUST CLARIFY THAT.

SO THE NEXT WEEK'S WORK SESSION IS ON AUGUST 1ST, THE MONDAY AT 6:00 PM.

UM, THERE'S ALSO THE JOINT MEETING SCHEDULED ON THURSDAY AT 6:00 PM WITH THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY COMMISSION.