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OH, WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[ AGENDA MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road May 25, 2022 6:00 P.M. ]

I'D LIKE TO CALL THE HEBREW HEIGHTS, MILITARY VETERANS COMMISSION TO ORDER.

WE NOW HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH JUSTICE SPRAWL WAS PRAY.

LET'S DO LORD REMEMBER THE FAMILIES OF THOSE PEOPLE AND INVOLVED IN TEXAS FOR THAT HORRIBLE EVENT HAPPENED DOWN HERE BY THE SLAVE SCHOOLCHILDREN.

TODAY OF ALL DAYS, WE CHOOSE TO HONOR OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS WORTHY MEN AND WOMEN WHO GAVE OF THEMSELVES WHEN THEY WERE CALLED UPON TO SERVE AND PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.

WE ASK FATHER THAT YOU BLESSED THEM FOR THEIR UNSELFISH SERVICE AND FOR THE DEDICATION THEY HAVE SHOWN TO PRESERVE OUR FREEDOMS, OUR SAFETY IN OUR COUNTRY'S HERITAGE, PLEASE FATHER BLESSED HIM ABUNDANTLY FOR THE HARDSHIPS THEY FACED FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT THEY MAKE IN FOR THEIR MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO AMERICA'S VICTORIES, OVER TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION.

WE RESPECT THEM.

WE THANK THEM.

WE ARE PROUD OF THAT, AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL WATCH OVER THEM.

THESE VARIOUS SPECIAL PEOPLE, HEAVENLY FATHER, HOLD OUR TROOPS IN YOUR LOVING HANDS, PROTECT THEM AS THEY PROTECT US, BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES FOR THE SELFLESS ACTS.

THEY PERFORM FOR US IN THE TIME OF OUR NEED.

LORD, PLEASE GUIDE US IN ALL THAT WE DO AND BLESS ALL THE MILITARY AND VETERANS WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS.

THESE THINGS I HUMBLY ASK IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.

AMEN.

UH, ROLL CALL.

OKAY, TOM ESTEBAN HERE.

JOHN BANQUETS HERE.

RAISE YOUR ARM.

KIESEL NICELY PRESENT YOU.

BRENNER ANTHONY.

HERE.

WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR A QUORUM TONIGHT.

AGREE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, DID EVERYONE GET TO SEE THE MINUTES? I KNOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY APRIL, BUT YOU KNOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING IN APRIL, SO, UM, EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES OF MARCH 23RD, 2022.

IF SO, UM, LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OR MAKE UPDATES AS NECESSARY.

SO MOVED.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

OPPOSERS HAVE THE SAME RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

ANNOUNCEMENTS, SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS SECTION? OKAY.

CITIZENS COMMENTS ASK ALL CITIZENS.

YOU HOLD YOUR COMMENTS TIL THE END.

ALL RIGHT.

OH, BUSINESS.

SO, UM, I HAD SENT THE, UH, MEMORIAL DAY AGENDA JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.

I KNOW I SENT IT THROUGH EMAIL, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE COULD JUST RECAP IT HERE.

UNFORTUNATELY.

UM, IT DIDN'T, WASN'T ABLE TO BE PRINTED OFF.

UM, I DID JUST SEND IT TO HER, MY BUDDY, MIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN PULL IT UP, BUT BASICALLY MR. JOHN BANKER WOULD, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I GO INTO THAT, UM, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO, UM, GET THE MORAL DAY AGENDA TOGETHER.

NUMBER ONE.

BUT, UM, WHEN WE HAD THESE MEETINGS AND THE LACK OF A MEETING IN APRIL, IF YOU WILL, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ALL THE COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO ROLL OUR SLEEVES UP OUTSIDE OF THE OUTSIDE OF HERE.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS AT PANERA.

WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS AT TJ CHUMPS TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

UM, SO, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S RESPONSE AND TRYING TO BE TIMELY.

SOME PEOPLE LIKE EMAILS, SOME PEOPLE LIKE TEXTS.

I DID BOTH.

I CAN'T TEXT MR. TOM THOUGH, BUT HE TEXTS HIS EMAILS.

SO IT WASN'T AN ISSUE.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR RESPONDING.

SO WITH THE AGENDA, LET ME SPEAK ON THAT.

OKAY.

UM, BASICALLY, UM, FOR THE AGENDA FOR THAT DAY, I'M AT 1700 MASTER OF CEREMONIES,

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UM, WHO IS NOW JOHN BANQUETS.

IT'S YOUR TIME WITH THAT? THANK YOU, CHAIRPERSON.

UM, 1700 DIRECTLY AFTER THAT, UM, OVER YOUR REMARKS, PRESENT COLORS AND COMMAND.

UM, 1705.

MY EVALUATE MARINES HONOR GUARD WILL ADVANCE THE FLYING POLE AND RAISE THE US FLAG AND THE POW FLAG TO THE TOP OF THE FLAG POLE.

IT IS ALREADY AT THE TOP OF THE FLAG POLE FLAGPOLES SLOWLY LOWER THE FLAGS AT HALF MASS.

AT THAT POINT, THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BEGINS.

THE RECORDED SLEUTHS ARE RENDERED AND HONOR GUARDS FULLY RAISES THE FLAGS TO THE TOP.

RI LOWERS THE FLAGS APP MASS.

IT WILL THEN TIE THEM OFF AFTER NATIONAL ANTHEM CONCLUDES OR THE TOP WAS COMPLETE.

WHICHEVER IS LAST A HUNDRED OR RETIRES? 1750, UM, MC INTRODUCES FATHER, KYLE.

SORRY, I SHOULD NIPPLE.

SORRY.

I PRONOUNCED THAT WRONG, BUT EXCUSE ME.

DID YOU SAY PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ON WHERE THE MIDDLE WAS? THAT IT'S NOT INDIA AGENDA.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

BOTHER SNIPPER.

DOES IT, DOES IT, ARE YOU SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE NEEDS TO BE IN HERE ARE ASKING YOU TO LAY DOWN? YEAH, WE, YEAH, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED, BUT WE NEVER OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU CAN CALL IT FATHER KYLE THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOOD.

I LIKE THAT FATHER KYLE.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

TRYING TO PRONOUNCE SNIPPETS.

THAT'S THE WAY HE REFERS TO HIMSELF ANYWAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, 17, 18 INVOCATION CONCLUDES EMCEE INTRODUCES MR. GARY T. WASHINGTON, 1738 EMCEE INTRODUCES HONORABLE JEFF OR MAYOR OF CITY.

HE WRITES, UH, 1748.

OH, YOU GONNA STOP A MINUTE? SURE.

GARY WASHINGTON CENTRO IS OKAY.

JOHN HAS IT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE IT.

NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK ME FOR IT.

I SENT YOU THE REVISED.

THERE'S NO PROBLEM.

WE CAN GET IT TO HIM.

I GOT HIS EMAIL ADDRESS.

I GOT IT TOO.

BUT, UH, I'LL, I'LL SEND A COPY TO SOCCER WHEN, WHENEVER YOU GET IT, SEND IT TO ME.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

NO PROBLEMS. 1738 AND MC INTRODUCES HONORABLE JEFF GORE, MARY CITY.

HE WRITES 1748 MC ONE THAT MR. T WASHINGTON AMERICAN WAR WILL LAY THE REEF.

HIS FIRST NAME IS G NOT T CARRY T.

OKAY.

SO MR. WASHINGTON, AGAIN, AND MAYOR GORE TOGETHER, BRING THE FLAG OR THE REEF FORWARD AND PLACE ON ONTO MEMORIAL STAND 1750 MC WE'LL CONCLUDE ASSEMBLY, ATTENTION AND SALUTE SO THAT ALL REPRESENTED UNITS CAN LINE UP THE APPROPRIATE FORMATION, COME TO ATTENTION AND RENDER A HAND SALUTE.

THEN THE COMMISSION.

WELL, MY VALIUM RANDOM, SORRY, FOREIGN PARTICLE FIRE AT 21 GUN SALUTE FALLING, WHICH A YOUNG MARINES TROUBLE PLAYER WILL PLAY TAPS AFTER WHICH MC WILL COME IN ORDER ARMS 1755.

AND SEE WHAT INTRODUCE FATHER KYLE FOR THE BENEDICTION 1758 EMCEE CONCLUDES CEREMONY WITH FINAL REMARKS.

YES.

MR. BURNER, A QUESTION.

NO, I THOUGHT I SAW IT WAS FINAL REMARKS.

WHO IS THAT GOING TO BE? YOU INTRODUCE YOU BACK IN FOR FINAL MONSTER.

OKAY.

GERMAN REMARKS AND, AND ALL THAT NOTE IS TIMES ARE GUESSTIMATES.

OKAY.

UM, I ALSO, UM, TO REITERATE, UM, COUPONS, UM, SOMEWHAT, UH, COMMENTS EARLIER I SENT OUT A LIST OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT PROVIDES, WHICH IS MY SERVICES, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE PODIUM AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT WILL BE NO DIFFERENT THAN THINGS IN THE PAST THAT WE'VE HAD.

SO LISA VERY SIMILAR OR DISSIMILAR TO ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED, INCLUDING THE PLAYING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.

NOW THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.

YEAH.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO HAVE THAT ON THEIR PHONE OR I CAN HAVE ONE OF MY PEOPLE HAVE ON THEIR PHONE OR SOMETHING.

YOU'D BE LIKE, OKAY, I KIND OF JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT.

MY ONLY FEAR WITH MY PHONE IS SOMEBODY WILL CALL.

SOMEBODY WILL CALL ME WHILE THE CERTAIN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REASON I WOULDN'T WANT TO USE MY PHONE.

UM, SO AS ANYBODY ELSE THAT, UH, WILL BE WILLING TO PULL UP THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.

NOW, WHEN WE SAY NATIONAL AND WHAT TYPE, WHICH ARE WE GOING WITH? LIKE A ROCK AND ROLL VERSION, JUST A REGULAR VERSION, ARMY BAND VERSION.

I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO BE CLEAR.

KSE.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT SIR? HE'S A REGULAR

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STRAIGHTER.

NO THINKING YOU SEE DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU IN A SPOT THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE THE MOST ADVANCED.

IT PROBABLY COULD.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE, YOU PLAN TO BE THERE.

I'M SORRY.

OH YEAH.

I'LL BE HERE.

OKAY.

CAN WE USE YOUR PHONE? AND NOBODY CALLED ME AND SAY JOHN , WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

THAT'S OKAY.

YES.

YOU NEED TO PLUG IT IN TO ME TO HOLD IT UP TO THE MICROPHONE.

BASICALLY IT'S A, IT'S A BLACK TUBE.

IT IS A BLUETOOTH KIND OF THING.

SO YEAH, I THINK WE'LL BE THERE.

YOU GET THERE EARLY AND THEN THEY DO A WALK THROUGH THE WHOLE GROUP AS A WALK THROUGH AND KIND OF GET THAT EARLY AND THEN WE'LL HELP YOU GO TO THE BAR, SETTING THIS UP.

I'M GOING TO STOP THAT FILE JUST FOR THAT.

SO PERFECT.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE TOOK CARE OF THAT FROM MY AUNT.

THAT WAS HIS ONLY DO OUT, WHICH I WAS GOING TO BRING UP, BUT HE DID, UM, ON THE, UH, AGENDA.

I'M LIKE EMAIL THE AGENDA OUT.

WHEN I GET HOME, I'M GOING TO ADD, UH, AT THE BOTTOM THAT YOU, THE MCL ATTORNEY BACK OVER TO ME AT THE END FOR GERMAN.

AND THEN THE BIO FROM MR. GARY T. WASHINGTON WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU THIS EVENING.

AND THEN FOR THE FATHER, WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE FATHER.

WE JUST INTRODUCED THE FATHER.

RIGHT.

WE JUST INTRODUCED THE PERSON DOING AN APPLICATION.

YEAH.

UH, WE DON'T GIVE THEM A RUNDOWN.

YEAH.

PROVIDING THE INVOCATION FATHER FROM SCIENCE, PETER PARISH ST.

PETER AND I SIT A BIO FOR HIM.

I DON'T THINK SO.

I DON'T THINK I PROVIDED A BILE FOR HIM.

THAT'S WHY WE DID IT.

WE JUST DID THE IMPLICATION IN IT.

WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE CHURCH? I'LL PUT IT ON ST.

PETER PARISH.

ST.

PETER.

THE ONE WHERE THEY HAD A CARNIVAL.

IS THAT YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

CAUSE YOU HAVE TO SAY STEP UP.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE HIM AS FATHER KYLE, STRIMPLE, YOU NEED TO PRACTICE.

I'M NOT INTRODUCING MC UH, UH, AMY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE AGENDA.

UM, BUT I WANT TO SAY ONE THING FROM EXPERIENCE FOR THE PAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, AS, AS THE TAPS THEY DID, IT WAS JUST SILENCE.

NOW THEY'RE TELLING YOU TO SAY ORDER ARMS. OKAY.

SO YOU PLEASED THAT A LOT OF CLEAR, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS I WAS DOING IT FROM THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT.

CAUSE AT THE TIME I STILL PROBLEM.

SO WHAT ARE WE SAYING NOW? HE'S COMING OF TAPS.

I'LL SAY ORDER.

YEAH.

YOU WANT ME TO ADD IT OR NO? YOU GOT IT.

WELL, HE WROTE AND READ IT.

OH, IT SAYS IT ON THERE ALREADY.

YEAH.

WHEN WE BRING IT UP.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEP.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA FOR MEMORIAL DAY? ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE TOPICS, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR WE MOVED.

WE GAVE MIKE A BREAK LAST MONTH, SO HE SHOULD JUST BE LOSING AND OVERLAYING WITH INFORMATION REGARDING ENGRAVING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MIKE.

WELL, BASICALLY THE INFORMATION I HAVE IS BASICALLY THE SAME THING I'VE BEEN PROVIDED ALREADY.

UM, I, I THINK AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, WE JUST NEED TO DECIDE AS THE COMMISSION OF THE, THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO CHARGE OR ON EACH INDIVIDUAL.

OKAY.

SO, AND, AND, AND THEN TO, UM, SOMEWHAT OF THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW IS THE AMOUNT NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO IS THE QUALIFICATION, THAT'S IT, RIGHT.

I MEAN, AS A VETERAN, IS IT VETERANS AND WE'RE VETERAN ONLY I GOT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A FAMILY VETERAN WE'LL TACKLE THAT.

AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE DECISIONS THAT YOU'VE MADE AND MOVING FORWARD.

I, I MEAN, I JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT THIS OFF ANY FURTHER THAN WE HAVE TO, BUT, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME THINGS, DECISION LEVI'S ARE I AGREE? YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, MOUNT, I KNOW WE WENT AROUND THE ROOM THAT LAST TIME.

AND WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE OF THAT? LIKE 1 10, 1 11, ACTUALLY ONE 11 WAS THE AVERAGE.

SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

UH, I SENT OUT A EXCEL SPREADSHEET.

I KNOW, UH, LAYING ALL THAT STUFF OUT.

YEAH.

I REGRET I DIDN'T BRING IT BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD APPROVES DISCUSSION.

WELL, BUT IF, I MEAN, AT THE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO SET AN AMOUNT.

SO I KNOW TOM WAS ON THE HIGH END.

I WAS LIKE, OH, THAT'S KIND OF HIGH, BUT HEY, IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE.

SO AT THE TIME, I THINK YOU SAID LIKE TWO OR TWO 50.

YEAH.

AND I'M REALLY READY TO GO.

I'M WILLING

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TO GO WAY LOWER.

WELL, IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WITH THE TYPES OF BRICKS THAT WE HAVE, AND THE COST OF THE ENGRAVING ITSELF IS GOING TO PUSH IT INTO THAT STRATOSPHERE ANYWAY.

SO WE COULD SAY, WE ONLY WANT TO CHARGE 50 BUCKS, BUT THEN NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY COSTING THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, MORE MONEY THAN ACTUALLY MAKING A PROFIT OR NOT MAKING A PROFIT.

I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT TO, TO HELP FUND THE MEMORIAL ITSELF.

SO DO YOU, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THIS COMING UP? MAKE IT A PROFIT IT'S KIND OF WELL ADVISED BECAUSE IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF YOU DON'T WANT TO SUSTAIN A LOSS, RIGHT? YES.

YEAH.

THAT'S THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO MAKE A PROFIT.

WE DON'T WANT TO SELL THEM FOR 50.

SO WHAT, SO WHAT DOES, SO WE FIGURED OUT WHAT OUR, UH, WHAT OUR BOTTOM LINE IS.

WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO CHARGE NOWHERE TO TURN A PROFIT.

I MEAN, DO WE, IT'S OUR PROVINCE HARD TO DETERMINE AT THIS POINT.

OKAY.

UM, BEANS THAT WE HAVEN'T DECIDED LINE PUBLICATION, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, UM, THOSE PACKAGES WILL COME AND GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, ONCE WE DECIDED LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING.

OKAY.

AND THEN I HAVE TO CONTACT ABC COMPANY TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THIS OUT FOR US? OKAY.

WE, THAT THE GRANITE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER TYPE.

UM, THE BLACK GRANTED, OR LET'S JUST SAY THEY'RE SPECIAL.

THEY'RE DONE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE THREE RECEIVABLES I PUT UP.

SOME OF THOSE ARE MORE, I DO USE A TIER PROCESS.

UM, I STILL THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION AND IN A SENSE OF BREAKING EVENING, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO GET AWAY WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE AS FAR AS A DIFFERENT PROCESS OF IT LOOKING DIFFERENT.

BECAUSE I THINK BASICALLY, I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS, CAUSE I'M NOT, I WASN'T, I WASN'T THE PERSON WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE SPECIFICATION OF LAYING THIS OUT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THE MEMORIALS LAID OUT THIS SIDE, BASICALLY WHEN YOU WALK UP TO IT, THE RIGHT SIDE IS ALL THE SAME BRICKS.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT FOR MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

OKAY.

THE ONLY INDIAN PHILADELPHIA NAMES AND THEY LOOKED THE SAME.

OKAY.

AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, THIS OTHER HALF, SO, YOU KNOW, CIRCULAR PORTION OVER HERE WILL BE THE SAME TIME, STEP, TOP BRICKS, AS FAR AS YOU UNDERSTAND.

SO YOU WOULDN'T WANT A BRICK THAT LOOKS LIKE A CITY BRICK OR A REG RIP RECUR, YOU KNOW, YOU'D WANT THE SAME SIMILAR BRICKS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO BE SCULPTED FOR EACH.

YES.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING WITH THAT IS NOT TO INCUR ANY MORE COSTS FOR THE CITY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE, I WOULD SAY ADVISABLE TO SAY, KEEP YOUR COSTS WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE THEY'RE AT.

RIGHT.

YOU'RE NOT, THIS IS ALL GONNA IT'S, IT'S IN A CENSUS.

IT'S GOING TO BE HERE, BUT IT'S FOR A GOOD CAUSE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AS FAR AS DURABILITY IS CONCERNED, ALL YOU GOT TO WORRY ABOUT IS WHETHER DURABILITY, IF THE BRICKS THEMSELVES WON'T BE A WALKWAY PER SE.

AND I SAY THAT IN REMEMBRANCE OF SINCLAIR OR HOW THEY HAD A BUNCH OF BRICKS AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY ALL KIND OF DISAPPEARED OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE WALKING ON THEM.

UH, SO THE BRICK SHOULD LAST QUITE A WHILE THEY CAN SUSTAIN WEATHER DURABILITY.

YOU DON'T THINK WE HAVE MUCH FOOT TRAFFIC IS SINCLAIR DOES.

NO.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AS FAR AS I SAY, WITH THE BLACK GRANITE THAT IS CHOSEN FOR THE MEMORIAL STUFF, THOSE HAVE TO BE ETCHED.

THE OTHERS CAN BE ENGRAVED.

SO THERE'S A COST DIFFERENCE.

BUT THOSE TWO DIFFERENT TYPE STYLE OF MASONARY BRICK, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO, WE'RE GOING TO PROMOTE IT AS THAT, THAT IT'S TOP QUALITY IS TOP OF THE LINE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING PRICE LIKE THAT, THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND READ MINE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE COUGH.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? RICOTTA, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LET'S LET'S GO BACK.

ARE YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING OUT AN INVITATION FOR BID TO AB AND C COMPANY, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I DON'T KNOW THE QUOTE.

I DON'T HAVE TO KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW THE COST EFFECTIVE THAT I DON'T HAVE TO.

WE AS A CITY ENTITY, AS FAR AS YOU BET, YOU MENTIONED PUTTING OUT THE COMPANY APNC WHAT'D YOU MEAN BY THAT? I WILL DEFINITELY DO MY DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO I'M SAYING IN ORDER TO, IF YOU'RE TALKING LIKE RFE STUFF, NO, NO.

IT'S KNOW WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS IF YOU PUT OUT EVERY QUEST TO MAKE SOME BRICKS, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME SPECIFICATIONS BY WHICH YOU COULD COMPETE, WHICH CAN COMPARE.

AND A LOT OF THE WORDS THAT YOU GO SPECIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED HERE AT THE TABLE.

WE JUST NEED TO INCLUDE THOSE IN DECIDING WHAT THOSE WORDS ARE.

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FOR EXAMPLE, SIZE SIZE IS ALREADY THERE.

SLIDES IS ALREADY THERE, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR BOARD BREAKS.

SO IT'S A SIZE THAT ARE GOING TO PROVIDE IT.

NO, WE HAVE 400.

WE HAVE ALMOST 100 BRICKS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE THERE FOR BRICKS.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS THE PROBLEM IS THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE RISKS.

OKAY.

MOST COMPANIES WANT YOU TO PURCHASE A BRICK FROM THEM OR X NUMBER OF BRICKS FROM THEM.

OKAY.

WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED HERE.

OKAY.

SO WE GOT, SO WE GOT TO SAY TO NUMBER OF LINES, ARE THESE, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR US NOW? BASICALLY, WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR ME FOR THESE, THESE X NUMBER OF BRICKS? AND WE HAVE TO START WITH A NUMBER OF, TO GET THE DONATION.

WE HAVE TO START IT AT X NUMBER OF 1500 HERE.

OKAY.

AND THEN YOU START THE PROCESS.

OKAY.

YOU DO THEN A HUNDRED BRICKS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU HAVE THEM INSTALLED.

THAT'S IT? I GUESS ALL I'M SAYING IS YOU CAN'T PUT OUT A REQUEST, HEY, HEY, WE NEED SOME HELP WITH OUR BOOKS AND JUST CARRY IT IN AND DOCUMENT.

NOW YOU GOT TO PUT SOME SPECIFICATIONS.

WHAT HE'S SAYING IS HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT BRICKS.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GOING TO ABC COMPANY REGARDING THE ETCHING AND THE ENGRAVED, NOT THE BRICK.

OKAY.

WE'RE TALKING APPLES AND ORANGES.

ALL I'M TALKING ABOUT IS IF YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THREE COMPANIES TO DO IT, YOU GOT TO HAVE GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO DECIDE UPON.

RIGHT.

WHATEVER THAT CRITERIA IS.

RIGHT.

BUT THAT THEY, THEY OKAY.

AND WHATEVER THE CRITERIA IS, IS ALREADY TOTALLY SPELLED OUT.

AND WE'RE JUST NOT NO NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

WHAT THE SPECIFICATIONS WOULD BE THREE LINES.

IF THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDE, IT WILL BE THREE LINES OF INFORMATION, RANK, WHATEVER BRANCH OF SERVICE, BOOM.

WE CAN SPECIFY THAT.

THEN MIKE GOES TO THE, THESE COMPANIES AND SAY, HERE'S THE BREAK.

WE WANT THREE LINES.

OR WE WANT TWO LINES, WHATEVER THAT IS.

OH, WE'RE IN TOTAL AGREEMENT.

RIGHT.

SO, BUT WE KNEW THAT, BUT WE WERE, WE'RE TRYING TO ARRIVE AT FIRST IS THE AMOUNT.

NOW MY, MY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE KIM.

WE CAN ALWAYS LOWER THE AMOUNT.

OH, WE DON'T WANT TO LIKE, IF IT'S TWO 50 AND THEN AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, WE SEE THAT IT REALLY ONLY COST US.

IT IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE NEED TO AGREE UPON SO I CAN MOVE FORWARD TO SAY, THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING WE NEED TO KNOW IS WE NEED TO AGREE UPON ONE 11.

THAT'S THE AVERAGE WE ALL AGREED UPON.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

YES, SIR.

WE ALL AGREED UPON.

YOU ALL DID AS COMMISSIONS.

OKAY.

YEP.

SO I WASN'T HERE.

SO NOW I'M SORRY YOU WERE IN FLORIDA, BUT YOU'RE BOTH AS A REGULAR, AS AN AVERAGE.

I WASN'T HERE EITHER.

BUT ANYWAY, SO BESIDES THAT POINT, MOVING FORWARD AT THIS POINT, SO I COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THIS DONE.

YOU NEED TO COME IN BECAUSE THE AVERAGES WERE FROM HERE TO, THERE IS ONE 11.

OKAY.

SO NOW WE HAVE TO AGREE UPON, AND I'VE ALREADY GAVE YOU THOSE, THOSE EMAIL, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICATIONS OF FACTS AT ONE 11, YOU'RE LOSING.

RIGHT.

YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE LOSING.

OKAY.

BUT STILL WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE ON THAT AMOUNT.

ARE WE LOSING AND MOVING FORWARD? NO.

OKAY.

OR ARE WE CREATING A PROFIT OR, OR NOT? THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DONATION, A DONATION ASPECT TO IT.

OKAY.

THERE'S NO PROFIT IN IT, RIGHT.

I MEAN, OH, WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO CHARGE IN ORDER TO EITHER SUSTAINABILITY.

YES, YES.

SUSTAINABLE.

HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

I'M GOING DO WHAT WE NEED TO CHARGE.

I MEAN, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT OR HAVE YOU LOOKED IT UP OR I LIKE TO LIKE TO SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABILITY.

MY RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BRICKS ALREADY PROCESSED AND I FORGET I'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS FOR THREE MONTHS NOW TRYING TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS, BUT MY RECOMMENDATION, I PUT UP AND LOOK AT THE FORMER EMAILS AND I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE MYSELF ON THAT.

RIGHT.

BUT THAT WOULD, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT AMOUNT.

WHAT I HAD FIGURED OUT THAT, THAT TIME, THAT COULD CHANGE NOW THOUGH, BECAUSE LABOR COSTS WHATNOT.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT SAY, HEY, BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE HAVING READY IN JULY.

IF THAT'S JUST AN ORDER IN JULY FOR THEM NOT TO BE READY UNTIL SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.

RIGHT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THEIR STUFF EITHER.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

THEN WHOEVER THE BID GOES TO WHICHEVER COMPANY THAT INCLUDES, THEY COME OUT, REMOVE THE BRICK, ENGRAVE IT, BE SEPARATE.

THAT'S A SEPARATE, THAT'S A SEPARATE CHARGE THEN INCUR THAT COST TOO.

WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, I REMEMBER YOU SAYING THAT BEFORE, BECAUSE

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MY DAUGHTERS, JUST TO DIG THEM UP AND GET THEM TAKEN TO WHERE WE GOT TO TAKE THEM TO THE GOLD COST MONEY.

JUST SO, BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE, SO BASICALLY YOU'RE COMING OUT, I'M TAKING THIS KEYBOARD FROM YOU FOR SIX WEEKS.

OKAY.

AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THAT KEYBOARD AND REPLACEMENT OF THE REPLACEMENT BRICKS WE HAVE OUT OF THE 300.

OKAY.

THOSE WILL BE PUT BACK IN THOSE, WE'LL COME BACK AND GRAVE AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AND THEN REPLACE THOSE.

THEN WE'LL CUT THOSE BACK AS WELL.

SO, SO YOU GOT, SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, SO IT MAKES SURE I UNDERSTAND IS THAT AS THEY TAKE BRICKS OUT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE IN ITS PLACE.

RIGHT.

AND AS THEY TAKE THEM OUT, WE HAVE THEM IN PLACE.

WE HAVE SO MANY BRICKS THAT ARE THERE.

YES.

IF YOU, YOU KNOW, LET'S USE NUMBER 50, TAKE 25.

YOU TAKE THE 25, YOU PUT 25.

YES.

OKAY.

I GOT YOU.

AND THEN WE'D GO ON.

WE GO 75, RIGHT? HERE'S ANOTHER FIVE.

YES.

RIGHT? YES.

I MEAN, OKAY.

I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THAT YOU COULD HAVE THE SPACE EMPTY.

YOU HAD TO PUT SOMETHING IN THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE TH TH THAT'S WHAT THESE WERE BOUGHT FOR.

SO THERE'S NO EMPTY SLOTS.

SO WE COULD, WE COULD ACTUALLY SELL 400 AND DECIDE LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO 400 OR HOWEVER MANY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I FORGET THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

BUT WE COULD, WE COULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GO TO 300 AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THESE BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON HAND.

AND THEN DO THAT AND SEE HOW WE DO.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PRICE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE UPON.

SO I CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THESE PEOPLE.

YES.

A FAIR MARKET PRICE.

DID YOU SAY, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW WHAT, I MAY BE ABLE TO WHAT I CAN SAY, THIS IS OUT IN THE WORLD, OR, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA AGREE UPON FOR RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNSEL.

RIGHT? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF IS SOMEONE TO COUNSEL THERE'S ULTIMATE DECISION-MAKERS OF WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY FIND OUT, ARE THEY, YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS THE CHARGE.

LET'S SAY A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR PRICK.

SOMEBODY'S NOT GOING TO AGREE WITH THEM.

OKAY.

GUARANTEED, GUARANTEED.

YES.

SO AS A COMMISSION, WE NEED, YOU GUYS NEED TO AGREE UPON, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION TO COUNCIL TO CHARGE THIS MUCH AMOUNT.

AND THEN I NEEDED TO GO SHOOT THAT FROM THESE COMPANIES.

YEAH.

WE WANT IT.

WE WANT TO CHARGE YOU 50.

SO THAT WAY THEY COME TELL YOU, WHAT'S GONNA COST YOU $300.

YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, I CAN'T DO THAT.

THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THAT'S ALL I'M AT.

IT MAKES SENSE.

YEP.

SO DO WE WANT TO VOTE AGAIN? DO WE WANT TO JUST SAY 200, 2 50? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I THINK THAT WE OUTRAGEOUS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

YEAH.

I THINK THERE'S WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A BRICK AT THAT PRICE.

AND IF THEY COULD, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T.

OKAY.

EVERYBODY ELSE.

THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ALL ALONG PROMOTING THIS BREAK.

I KNOW WE CAN'T USE THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE A HEAVY BREAKS THAT WE HAD TO USE.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

WE DON'T DO IT.

WAIT A MINUTE.

DO WE HAVE TO, I MEAN, NO.

WERE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO USE THOSE BRICKS AND CAN WE JUST LEAVE IT PLAIN AND PICK ANOTHER AREA AT THE SITE? UH, I CAN, I CAN BRING THIS BRICK, RIGHT, DUDE.

I'VE BEEN, UH, TALKING WITH THIS COPY.

I CAN BRING THIS BRICK BACK TO YOU FOR ENGRAVED FOR ABOUT 70, $75.

PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THAT.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD $200 FOR A BRICK, THE THROW UNDERGROUND.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, JOHN, YOU SAID, UM, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AGAIN? DO WE HAVE TO USE THOSE BREAKS? SO MIKE, AS THEY'RE ALIVE, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER DECISION OF THE COMMISSION TO CHANGE THIS AS A RECOMMENDATION, AS A COMMISSION, WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO EVEN MORTAL, AS FAR AS THOSE OTHER THAN THE BRICKS THAT HE, THAT WE'VE GOT DONALD DON'T UNDERSTAND.

THEY'RE QUITE A BIT LARGER.

YES.

WELL, UH, THOSE DON'T HAVE TO BE WASTED.

THOSE COULD BE USED FOR BUSINESSES TO ADVERTISE AND TO HAVE THEIR BRICK PUT IN ON THE CD OR, UM, I MEAN, JUST AS A VETERAN, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.

YOU SORRY, JUST AS THAT, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S A VETERANS MEMORIAL.

I DON'T NEED TO ADVERTISE, THIS IS MY OPINION.

I'M A VETERAN.

I DON'T NEED NO ADVERTISEMENT.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE SKIPPY.

JOE'S I JUST DID NOT.

I'M SORRY.

I'M A VETERAN.

I LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.

I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THAT I HIT THE PRICE POINT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR YOUR, UH, WOULD BE UP IN THE 200 OR BETTER RANGE AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE A LOT MORE MONEY FOR AND MEMORIAL.

I A SO RATHER THAN THAT, WE COULD PUT SOME OTHER BRICKS AT ANOTHER PLACE.

IS THAT WHERE WE'RE THAT WE'RE AT NOW? WE'RE OPENING UP.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

OH, THE BOX, RIGHT? WE'RE MOVING THE GOALPOSTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT SETTING IN OUR MOUTH.

NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

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NOT USING THE BRICKS AND GO ON WITH OTHER, BUT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ONE THING AT A TIME, NOT TALKING ABOUT NOT USING THOSE BREAKS ON USING DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PURPOSE.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

WHO'S NEXT TO, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMENT AND AESTHETICS.

IT'S GOT TO GET A STORY TO TELL YOU.

WHEN I WENT TO THE POST OFFICE THIS MORNING, TWO PEOPLE CAME OUT.

BOTH OF THEM KNEW ME.

THE SECOND LADY HELD ME FROM FIVE MINUTES TO TELL ME HOW BEAUTIFUL THE MEMORIAL THAT WE SET UP WAS.

SO IF THAT'S, AND I'VE HEARD MANY, MANY COMMENTS ABOUT HOW WELL DONE THAT MEMORIAL IS, I WOULD REALLY PREFER US NOT TO PLAY IN THE AREA OF AESTHETICS.

IF THE AESTHETICS WHICH HAVE BEEN DULY CONSIDERED PRIOR TO ITS CONSTRUCTION ARE GOOD.

NOW LET'S BE DARN CAREFUL BEFORE WE PLAY THAT GAME.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, RAY.

TOM, YOU GOT ANYTHING TO ADD OR DO YOU JUST LIKE WHAT RAY SAID? OKAY.

SO CAN WE AGREE ON THAT AMOUNT? WE'RE BACK TO A MAN.

SO, WELL, I CAN SAY ONE MORE THING.

THEN I HAD THAT DATA SHEET AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T BRING IT.

AND I HAD MY RECOMMENDATION THERE.

I FORGOT WHAT I SAID.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GO HOME AND EMAIL YOU MY RECOMMENDATION, IF THAT WOULD WORK, BECAUSE IF I THROW A NUMBER OUT IT'S, UH, I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER A NUMBER BASED ON THE DATA DULY CONSIDERED IN.

AND I HAVE SOME, BUT I FRANKLY FORGOT WHAT THE CONCLUSION WAS BECAUSE IT WAS MULTIPLE CONCLUSIONS.

SO I FORGOT WHICH ONE WON OUT.

UM, I CAN JUST REITERATE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS AND IN A SENSE OF, I THINK THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS MEMORIAL, AND I'LL TELL YOU, THIS IS, IT'S BEEN THIS COMMISSION'S OKAY.

SO I WOULDN'T, I MEAN, VENTURE TO TAKE COPYCAT IS THE MOST, YOU KNOW, FLAT.

OKAY.

BUT ALSO I'M THE TYPE OF PERSON I LIKE TO DO MY OWN THING AND MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS.

AND I THINK THAT THIS COMMISSION, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AS WELL.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING WITH THAT IS I AGREE WITH YOU, RIGHT? AESTHETICALLY, I'D NEVER HEARD NOTHING BUT A POSITIVE COMMENT ABOUT THAT AREA.

OKAY.

AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.

SO I WOULD JUST REITERATE TO THE COMMISSION, MAYBE MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS AND NOT COUNT ON WHAT YOU KNOW, OVER HERE OR OVER THERE HAS DONE.

MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS.

WAIT A MINUTE, MR. DATA COLLECTION ITEM HERE.

OKAY.

OOPS.

I CAN MOVE IT SO YOU CAN ROTATE IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

MY, WELL, I'VE GOT MY RECOMMENDATION.

IF WE'RE GOING TO GET IT, I CAN SAY WHAT IT IS BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN ASKED FOR BETWEEN MY EAT.

MY INBOX STAYS FULL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ARE WE, YES.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE AGAIN, LIKE WE DID LAST TIME AND, UM, SEE, SEE WHAT HE CAN FIND OUT WHEN HE GOES OUT TO SPEAK WITH THEM, THESE DIFFERENT VENDORS, THE QUALIFICATIONS PART.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

AFTER GOING DOWN THE LINE, WE'RE GOING TO LAY A NUMBER THAT WE'RE GOING TO.

YEP.

SO LET'S START WITH MR. TOM.

1 50, 1 51 51 51.

UM, I'M GOING TO GO TO 50 ANDREW HOLE, HUNTER, AUDREY.

I'M GOING, I'M GOING TO A HUNDRED.

WE CAN'T AFFORD, BUT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

SO, SO A BRAIDED, RIGHT.

AND JUST SEND THIS TO ME THOUGH.

I DON'T THINK.

OR DID YOU KNOW? I SENT IT TO EVERYBODY.

THAT'S WHAT THAT STANDS FOR ALL CONCERNED.

RIGHT.

WELL, I KNOW ALL KINDS STAND FOR IT.

THAT DON'T MEAN YOU SENT IT TO EVERYBODY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, BUT YEAH, MY EMAIL WAS JUST TO ME, BUT FROM HERE, UM, I'LL TAKE AVERAGE.

AND FROM THAT AVERAGE, I'LL AVERAGE OUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT HEARING THE COMMISSION AS THAT AVERAGE AND INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR AVERAGE.

OKAY.

JUST LIKE I DID LAST TIME AND I'LL EMAIL YOU OUT THAT NUMBER AND THAT WILL BE MY, MY, MY NEGOTIATING NUMBER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT THESE, THE ABC COMPANY COULD DO TO GET THIS IN PROCESS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO WE GOT THEM OUT AND HE'S GOING TO WORK HIS MAGIC NOW TO QUALIFICATIONS.

UM, THAT WAS BEING WORKED, BUT

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WE NEVER REALLY, UM, AGREED.

UH, NOW I KNOW AT ONE POINT, UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE RECOMMENDATION I DID RECEIVE WAS TO USE WHATEVER CRITERIA WE USE FOR THE HONOR BANNERS IN THE HUBER HEIGHTS.

SO, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME WAS WHATEVER THOSE QUALIFICATIONS ARE TO BE ON THE HONOR, BANNER ON THE STREETS OF HUBER HEIGHTS, WE USE THAT SAME CRITERIA.

AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHO CAN GET IN.

WHO, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA.

YOU DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT ON LACKLAND AIR FORCE BASE.

THERE'S A MONUMENT AS BIG AS OURS, ACTUALLY.

IT'S FOR A MILITARY WORKING DOGS WHO DON'T HAVE HIS DD TWO 14.

SO SUPPOSE SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT THEIR DOG THEY'RE WORKING DOG.

NO, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S DEFINITELY EXCEPTIONAL.

WELL, TELL ME ABOUT THE MILITARY HISTORY OF THAT WORKING DOG WOULD BE RECOGNIZED BY SOME TYPE OF AWARD.

YES.

RIGHT? IT WOULD BE MILITARY RECORD OF IT.

NOT RANKING EVERYTHING THEY'RE RANKING.

CORRECT.

RIGHT.

MILITARY DOGS WHEN I WAS OVER IN AFRICA.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE A MILITARY RECORD.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE BASE IT OFF OF IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE ASPECTS, IT MAY, I'M SORRY.

MAY I ASK WHAT THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE FOR THE HONOR? I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

THOSE ARE, THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS NOT CHANGED.

THE KIND OF THE POLICY IT'S KIND OF GOING UP IS NOW A LITTLE BIT CHANGED, BUT EVERYTHING BUT SANDAL THE MAJORITY, CAUSE LET'S HANDLE THE MAJORITY MILITARY SERVICE.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD ALSO ALSO ACCEPT A RETIRED ID CARD OR VA CARD.

THEY'VE ALREADY HAD TO PROVE THAT THEY, YOU GOT TO GET THAT DOOR TO GET THAT CAR.

YOU GOT TO HAVE YOUR .

YES, YES.

THAT'D BE IT.

HAVE YOU DONE THE MILITARY? I RETIRED.

I KNEW THAT YOU HAD TO BE SOME PEOPLE.

YES.

NATIONAL PERSONNEL RECORDS CENTER BEING 14, LOCKED UP.

I LOST MY DD TWO 14 FIRE.

LET'S SAY IT DIDN'T REGISTER WITH THE CITY NOW.

HOW CAN I SAY THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHEN YOU'RE SAYING HONORABLE SERVICE, RIGHT? BY PROOF OF A TWO 14.

YEAH.

IT'S TWO 14 COULD BE A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE, BUT THAT DON'T MEAN THEY'LL BE GOING IN MATE.

HE WRITES MILITARY AND VETERAN COMMISSION MEMORIAL, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO, UM, IT'S UP TO BANNERS.

YOU HAD TO BE DEAD AND DID ALL THE BANNER.

NO, YOU DON'T.

OKAY.

SO MEMORIAL AND THERE'S ACTIVE.

UM, SO WE JUST SAY HONORABLE DISCHARGES REQUIREMENT, I WOULD SAY SO DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? SO AS WE HAVE, I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE LIKE OTHER THAN HONORABLE UNDER HONORABLE CONDITIONS OTHER THAN HONORABLE DISCHARGE UNDER HONORABLE CONDITIONS.

WHAT ABOUT UAC? THAT'S FINE.

I'M SAYING THIS HONORABLE.

NO.

SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN POVERTY.

AND THEN THEY GET THE DISHONORABLE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING DISCHARGE UPGRADES NOW AND GET IT UPGRADED.

COVID WE DID GET PUT BACK ON THE GOOD SIDE.

HE'S ON THE GOOD SIDE, RIGHT ON THE WINNING TEAM.

NOW OFF THE LOSER TEAM, UH, ANYBODY'S GOT A VA CARD OR, UH, A RETIREE CARD OR RETIRED ID CARD.

THAT'S AUTOMATIC.

YEAH.

HERE IT IS.

HERE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE MILITARY HONOR PROGRAM.

THE MILITARY PROGRAM HONOR BANNER PROGRAM BANNER PROGRAM INDIVIDUAL TO BE HONORED AND RECOGNIZED MUST BE RESIDE OR AVERAGE SIDE.

AND YOU HAVE RIGHTS DURING THEIR MILITARY SERVICE AND CALL HUBER HEIGHTS, THEIR HOMETOWN, OR BE IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEN OR, OH, THE HUBER HEIGHTS, RESIDENT, SPOUSE, PARENT CHILD, SIBLING GRANDPARENT GRANDCHILD CHILD.

AND THOUGH THE INDIVIDUAL MUST HAVE SERVE OR HAVE SERVED IN ANY OF THE SIX BRANCHES OF MILITARY SERVICE, ARMY NAVY, AIR FORCE, SPACE, FORCE, MARINES, AND COAST GUARD, INCLUDING RESERVES AND NATIONAL GUARD.

AND THIS ALSO MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE CURRENTLY ACTIVE DUTY KNOW, I DON'T REALLY DISCHARGED.

VETERAN DIED IN THE LINE OF

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DUTY MEMORIAL, THE PRO THE PROGRAM CALLS FOR APPLICATIONS AND INSTALLATION DURING THE MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY PERIODS.

THOSE ARE THE, BASICALLY THE APARTMENTS THAT SOUNDS, I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY SIMPLE.

BASIC THE LINE OF DUTY, AND YOU SAY DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

WE DON'T CARE IF THE DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

DOES THAT MEAN I DON'T GET BRICK PROGRAM? OH YEAH.

WELL, I THOUGHT WE WERE.

YEAH.

WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF YOU DIED A LOT OF, DO YOU STILL QUALIFY, CORRECT? YES.

THAT'S A QUALIFICATION THAT GETS YOU THAT GET YOU IN THAT'S ONE QUALIFICATION.

YES.

YEAH.

THAT'S ONE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS YOU JUST LISTED OFF THAT YOU CUT OUT THERE.

NONE OF THE OTHER WAY ROUND NOW I WAS GOING TO RUN DOWN RE-ENLIST FOR GOD'S SAKE.

THE FRONT MOSTLY STAY ON.

WE'RE STRICTLY WITH THE TWO 14, IF A GUY'S SPENT 40 YEARS AND IT WAS ALL NATIONAL GUARD AND HE'S NOT GOING TO THE OTHER TWO 14, HE GETS A STATEMENT OF, DID THAT SAY ANYWHERE IN THERE? ANYTHING ABOUT TWO 14? NO, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

A LOT OF TWO 14.

NOPE.

IT SAYS HONORABLE CONDITIONS, APPLICATIONS FOR APPLICATIONS OR ANY MORE PERIODS.

IF YOU WERE DISCHARGED UNDER, OTHER THAN HONORABLE OR ANY OTHER BAD CONDUCT DISCHARGE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE AN ID CARD.

IF YOU GOT AN ID CARD, YOU'D GOT AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE, BUT THIS WELL, THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK INTO.

CAUSE THIS DOESN'T MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT DD TWO OR HAVING AN ID CARD.

IT SAYS CURRENTLY BE ON ACTIVE DUTY, BE AN HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERAN, WHATEVER EVIDENCE YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE A DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED, HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERAN.

IF THAT'S YOUR ID SAYS THAT SAYS IT, YOUR VA ID, YOUR MONTGOMERY COUNTY, IB, WHATEVER THAT IS TO ME, THAT QUALIFIES AND SUPPLIES, MEATS THAT HAVE BEEN VERIFIED IN ORDER TO GET THERE.

I AGREE.

I AGREE.

SO, UM, WHAT I'LL DO IS TAKE, TAKE WHAT WE HAVE FOR THAT HONOR BANNER PROGRAM, AND THEN I'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REVIEW NEXT MONTH TO, UM, ADD TO, OR TAKE AWAY FROM HOW DOES THAT SOUND? EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT OCCUR? I JUST GOT ONE QUESTION.

IF YOUR KEY OR KILLED ON ACTIVE DUTY, DO YOU STILL GET IT TWO 14? YES.

YES.

YOU DO GREATER CONTENT AND SPECIFICATION WHERE YOU GET REAL FAR IN THE WEEDS.

NIGGA SEND ME THAT.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL GO ONLINE AND GET IT AND THEN PRESENT THAT.

NO, NO, NO.

I'LL PRESENT THAT TO US.

OKAY.

I'LL EMAIL IT OUT.

OKAY.

BUT I'M GONNA, YOU KNOW, GOTCHA.

YEAH.

I'M WITH YOU, BUT I READ IT OVER THE DAY.

KISS, KISS METHOD, YOU KNOW IT ALL RIGHT.

SO HE HAS A MOUNT.

THE QUALIFICATION IS, UH, EVERYONE HERE AGREES.

WE'LL USE THE MILITARY HONOR BANNERS PROGRAM AS A BASE AND BUILD ONTO IT TO MAKE IT FIT.

UM, WHAT OUR QUALIFICATIONS ARE FOR SOMEONE TO BE, WE CAN ADD ID CARD, WE CAN ADD THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.

AND, UM, I'LL, UH, PUT THAT TOGETHER.

LIKE I SAID, AND I'LL EMAIL THAT OUT TO EVERYONE.

AND THEN IN OUR NEXT MEETING IT'LL BE UNDER, UM, UH, ALL BUSINESS, ONE QUESTION AND THAT WAS THE QUALIFICATION FOR REVIEWER.

IF SOMEBODY SAYS I'M QUALIFIED, WHO DID THEY PRESENT A COMPLICATION? YEAH.

I'M GOING TO USE THE INFORMATION THAT'S THAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE THE COMMISSION DOES, BUT IT'S THE CITY.

IT'S THE CITY.

I MEAN, CITIES PRETTY BIG PLACE.

ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR MYSELF.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO GO WITH THAT.

WE CAN INCLUDE THAT.

NONE OF MEMBERS OF STAFF.

YEAH.

I MEAN BASICALLY HOW THE BANNER PROGRAM NOW WORKS.

IT'S RAN THROUGH JAMIE FRY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SHE REVIEWS THE QUALIFICATIONS AND GIVES YESTERDAY AND YOU KNOW, I GET THE DIRECTOR OF THE FOREST, YOU KNOW? OKAY.

GET IT TOGETHER.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE ARE, WE GOT US A LITTLE TRACTION ON THE BRAKES AND THEN THE NEXT THING IS NEW BUSINESS, WHICH I DON'T HAVE NO DOUBT THAT PROCLAMATION FOR THE, SO YEAH.

SO FOR THAT, I LEFT THAT, WELL, IT WAS, I LEFT IT ON THERE JUST BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE WERE GOING WITH ANOTHER TWO, SINCE THOSE TWO DECLINE.

BUT WHEN TALKING TO RAY AND TALKING TO JAMIE, SHE WAS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY A NON IT'S A DEAD ISSUE.

CAUSE THEY BOTH DECLINED.

THAT'S GREAT.

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YUP.

OKAY.

SO NEW BUSINESS, NO NEW BUSINESS GOING ONCE GOING TWICE, NO ARM WRESTLING OVER BRICKS.

IF NO ONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE, WE ALL DECLARE THAT YOU RIDE SOME MILITARY, VERY COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED.