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ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE.

[ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road April 21, 2022 6:30 P.M.]

IT IS 6 29.

UH, WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

ROLL CALL.

SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

VINCENT KING HERE.

ALEX BLACK HERE.

BRIAN, DENNY HEIR, CHRISTOPHER HALL.

BLAKE.

HERSTEIN HERE.

GLENN POTTINGER SIDNEY SMITH, DENNIS SNYDER, MATT TIG, RON IFR HERE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

UH, THIS IS THE OPENING REMARKS BY THE CHAIR.

UM, I HAVE LUNCH TODAY, SO I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO TODAY'S MEETING DATE.

ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS TODAY? IT'S PROBABLY THE FARMER'S MARKET.

ISN'T IT.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE OLD BUSINESS.

JOSH PARTS MANAGER UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING.

I GAVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATED CALENDAR, UH, FOR THE SUMMER MUSIC SERIES.

WE HAD A CANCELLATION, SO WE RESCHEDULED THAT FIRST WEEKEND THERE WITH THE DATE AND PHONE CALL STARS IS OUR NEW BAND ON THE DOCKET.

SO, UH, THAT'S ALL SET IN STONE.

EVERYTHING'S READY TO ROLL FOR THAT.

UM, GOT OUR SUMMER MOVIES IN PLACE AND A FARMER'S MARKET KICKS OFF HERE IN WHAT, THREE WEEKS.

I THINK VINCE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, WE'LL BE GOING STRONG WITH THAT.

UH, BOTH PLAYGROUNDS WERE DELIVERED THIS WEEK FOR, UH, EICHELBERGER AND FOR COMMUNITY, UH, EICHELBERGER WILL BE INSTALLED FIRST AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GET COMMUNITY PUT IN AFTER THAT.

UM, AND THERE'LL ONLY BE HALF OF COMMUNITY INSTALLED, CAUSE WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE GRANT ABOUT THAT A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE SWING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE ACTUAL PLACE STRUCTURE AND THEN WE CAN ADD THE SWING LATER WITHOUT AFFECTING ANYTHING.

UM, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE GOT, UH, THIS WEEKEND, WE'VE GOT OUR, UH, EARTH DAY, BUT WE'LL LET, WE'LL SAVE THAT FOR LATER IN THE AGENDA.

OTHER THAN THAT SUMMERS HERE ALMOST SHOULD GET BUSY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

JOSH, UH, COULD I COULD GET AN UPDATE AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS IN, INTO THE MINUTES, IF BEST IN CHRIS, THE STATUS ALL DAY OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURTS, WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING AT THE WIDE THERE.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ENTERED AS PART OF THE RECORD.

YEAH.

STILL COLLECTING BIDS FOR THAT.

AND I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SPACE IN THE BUDGET, UM, WHETHER WE CAN SQUEEZE IT IN THIS YEAR OR ADDING IT TO THE CAPITAL FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO, OKAY.

NOW HOW FAR DOWN THAT PRIORITY LIST YOU HAVE THERE? WE IN THE TOP FIVE YET? UM, I MEAN, OUT OF THE, I DON'T NECESSARILY FOLLOW THE PRIORITY LIST FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.

SO IF IT'S IN THE TOP 10, IT'S GOING TO GET WORKED ON WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE FIT THINGS IN AS WE CAN.

SOME OF THE THINGS ON THAT PRIORITY LIST ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET FOR AWHILE, SO, BUT YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

YUP.

YEAH.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE CIP RIGHT NOW.

SO ONCE I GET THROUGH THAT, WE'LL GET IT SQUEEZED IN THERE FOR NEXT YEAR, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

FELL DOWN TO FAMILIES THAT STARTED ASKING ME THIS ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, GO, MY GRANDSON WHO WAS GOING HERE, HUBER ELEMENTARY BACK HERE, HE'S A SOPHOMORE NOW AT VANDER, YOUR BUTLER.

WHEN THEY STARTED ASKING ME ABOUT THIS AND I KEPT TELLING HIM WE WERE GOING TO WORK ON IT.

SO AFTER A WHILE THEY THINK YOU'RE LYING TO THEM, SOMETHING, I DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE.

THEY SAID WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS AND I WANT IT PART OF THE MINUTES.

WHAT AM I ASKING FOR? THANKS JOSH.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOSH AND WE'LL STOP AND SEE JUST MENTIONED.

OKAY, JOSH, UH, THE DOWEL PARK BRIEF.

YEAH.

MAKE SURE MY CLICKER'S ON HERE.

OH, HOLD ON THE TV SCREENS ON A LITTLE BIT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS A, THE SURVEY RESULTS FROM THE SURVEY THAT WAS SENT OUT LAST YEAR.

WELL, LET'S SEE HERE.

WELL, THAT IS REALLY HARD TO SEE.

I WISH IT WAS BIGGER.

UH, LET'S SEE HERE SURVEY INCLUDED 15 CLOSING AT THREE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS, RESPONSE TO ALL

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CLOSING THE QUESTIONS WERE GROUPED BY RESPONSES FROM RESIDENTS NEAR DIAL PARK COMPARED TO THOSE FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WE'LL HAVE BREAKDOWNS FOR EVERY GRAPH, SHOULD HAVE THE BREAKDOWN UPON WHERE THEY WERE.

THIS IS A KIND OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE RESPONDENTS.

THAT'S LIKE THE BIGGEST PORTION.

THERE WAS 35 TO 44 YEARS OLD.

AND THEN OUT OF THIS, 38 WERE SPENT 38% OF ALL RESPONDENTS REPORTED LIVING ON A STREET IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING DIAL PARK.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT SPLIT UP THERE IN THAT GRAPH.

SO THIS IS QUESTION ONE, IT SAID, DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE PROPOSED MULTI-USE NATURAL SURFACE TRAILS? UM, WE HAD A MAJORITY SAY YES FROM WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND KNOW, OR, UH, AND KNOW FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE BREAKS DOWN HOW THEY HEARD ABOUT IT, UH, VIA SOCIAL MEDIA AND WORD OF MOUTH WHERE THE TWO BIGGEST RESPONSES THERE.

AND THEN THIS WAS, WHAT DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE PROPOSED TRAILS? A BIKE TRAIL WAS THE BIGGEST RESPONSE THERE AND THEN BIKE AND SKATE PARK AND THEN WALKING TRAILS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD RESISTANCE AND PROPOSAL STAGE AND PARKING CONCERNS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE RESPONSES THERE BELOW, UM, WHERE PEOPLE COULD KIND OF FILL IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD HEARD TRAILS WILL BE TWO MILES LONG, WILL BE FOR EXPERIENCED INTERMEDIATE AND BEGINNER, BIKE RIDERS.

AND SOMEONE ELSE SAID THEY HEARD IT'S GOING TO BE A PUMP TRACK.

AND THEN THIS PERSON SAID, I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WOULD BE A WALKING TRAIL BEGINNING TO DIAL INTO THE WOODED AREAS.

TRAILS WOULD HAVE ACCESS FROM SEVERAL STREET ENTRANCES, UH, HEARD CITIZENS IN AREA DON'T WANT IT THERE.

UM, SEND A PROPOSAL STAGE.

I JUST HEARD ABOUT THE PROPOSED IDEA AND LOCATION, AND THEN THE PARKING CONCERNS WAS WHAT THE WILD VIEW DRIVE, UM, ACCESS.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE WITHIN SUPPORT AND OPPOSE THE NATURAL SURFACE TRAILS.

UH, EVERYTHING CAME DOWN ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT ARE ON A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE IS ABOUT THREE AND A HALF IN SUPPORT AND FOUR PER OR FOUR OUT OF FIVE SUPPORT OUT OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, DO YOU PLAN, DO YOU THINK THE PLAN WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE? AGAIN? THERE'S YOUR STATISTICS THERE ON A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE? UH, LET'S SEE THAT SAYS, DO YOU FEEL THE PLAN ADDRESS YOUR PERSONAL NEEDS? KNOW HOW HALF AGAIN YOU'RE RIGHT.

KIND OF LITTLE ABOVE MIDDLE THERE ON BOTH OF THOSE.

AND THEN WHEN THEY ASKED WHY THEY FELT THIS WAY, THE PERSONAL ADDRESS PERSONAL NEEDS WAS FOR NATURE, FAMILY AND KIDS NEED MORE TRAILS, EXERCISE, RECREATION, GOOD FOR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD.

AGAIN, SOME OF THE RESPONSES TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL READ THEM ALL.

THEN NATURE.

IT GIVES PEOPLE A PLACE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND TO ENJOY NATURE.

AT THE SAME TIME GIVES PARENTS A WAY OF TEACHING THEIR KIDS ABOUT NATURE.

AND THEN THIS ONE FOR FAMILY AND KIDS, IT SAID I HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN AND GREW UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I FEEL THAT THEY NEED MORE PLAYGROUND AND PLAY EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THEY DO NOT HAVE AT ALL IN THIS AREA.

NEXT RESPONSES.

I FEEL LIKE THERE AREN'T A LOT OF GREAT WALKING TRAILS IN HUBER, ESPECIALLY IN TOWN.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

UH, RECREATIONAL AREAS WILL BENEFIT MANY RESIDENTS.

I WOULD LOVE A PARK LIKE THIS CLOSE TO MY HOUSE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT POSITIVE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN THOSE WHO, UH, WEREN'T SURE OR DOESN'T ADDRESS THEIR PERSONAL NEEDS.

THEY WOULDN'T USE IT BECAUSE IT'S INCONVENIENT, PARKING, TRAFFIC, SAFETY, NOISE, TRASH, AND OTHER PRIORITIES.

SO LIKE THIS ONE SAYS WOULDN'T USE OR INCONVENIENT ALMOST A FIFTH OF ALL FREE TEXT RESPONSES, BOTH FOR AND AGAINST THE PARK FEATURED OPPOSITION TO OR HESITATIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED TRAILS FROM RESIDENTS WHO WROTE THAT THEY WOULD NOT USE THE PUBLIC SPACE OR THAT IT WOULD BE AN INCONVENIENT LOCATION FOR THEM SINCE THEY LIVE IN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THIS PERSON SAID, I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.

I'M NOT LIKELY TO VISIT, UH, PARKING AND TRAFFIC.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CANNOT HANDLE THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS PARK WILL BRING SAFETY.

I'M NOT SURE IF SAFETY WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, HOW WILL IT BE POLICED NOISE? OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUIET.

IT'S WHY I CHOSE TO LIVE HERE.

AND THE ONLY REASON I STAY TRASH, I LIKE THE IDEA.

BUT WONDER IF HUBER HEIGHTS CAN KEEP UP WITH THE UPKEEP OR IF IT WILL SOON TURN INTO AN EYESORE OR PLACE FOR TEENS TO TRASH AND OTHER PRIORITIES, I FEEL MONEY SPENT ON THIS PROJECT CAN GO TO A BETTER PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

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IT SAYS, WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SEEN IN THE OPEN AREA OF DIAL PARK? UM, AGAIN, SO DARK BLUE IS DIAL RESIDENTS, LIGHT BLUE IS OTHER RESIDENTS.

UM, 44% PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE, 32% NATURE PLAY 26% EDUCATIONAL ELEMENTS, 23% SHELTER HOUSE.

AND I'M ONLY READING OFF THE RESIDENT NUMBERS.

22% HAVE NO OPINION, 16% BASKETBALL COURT AND 15% OTHER, ALMOST HALF OF ALL RESIDENTS IN DOWEL PARK CALLED FOR A PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE IN THE OPEN AREA OF DIAL PARK WITH ALMOST A THIRD.

ALSO CALLING FOR NATURE PLAY AREA INDICATING THAT OUTDOOR RECREATION SPACES FOR CHILDREN ARE A PRIORITY FOR THOSE WHO LIVE CLOSEST TO THE PARK AMONG RESIDENTS OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, NATURE PLAY AND A SHELTER HOUSE THAT COULD BE USED FOR COMMUNITY GATHERINGS EMERGED AS TOP PRIORITIES.

I REMEMBER SIX, DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, OR ARE A CARETAKER FOR CHILDREN THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PARK? 60% OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA SAID YES, 59%.

AND OTHER AREAS SAID, YES, HOW OLD ARE THE CHILDREN? IT LOOKS LIKE A MAJORITY ARE FIVE TO 12.

THIS WAS BOTH GOT ABOUT 28% OF THE RESPONSES.

UH, PLEASE SHARE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED MULTI-USE NATURAL SURFACE TRAILS, THAT DIAL PARK.

SO YOUR BIGGEST WAS RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT, TRASH AND MAINTENANCE, SAFETY, NATURAL AESTHETIC SEATING AND INCLUSIVE.

AND CHILD-FRIENDLY.

SO RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT SAID WE WOULD LOVE A PLAYGROUND THAT'S SUITABLE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN.

THERE'S MANY FAMILIES WITH YOUNG KIDS AROUND THIS AREA AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT FROM IT, TRASH AND MAINTENANCE.

ALSO, YOU NEED TO SUPPLY TRASH CANS AND HAVE THE CITY PARKS MAINTAIN THE AREA SAFETY.

MY ONLY OTHER OPINION IS THAT IT WILL NEED TO BE A REGULAR PATROL ROUTE FOR OUR OFFICERS TO DETER CRIME FROM HAPPENING.

WALKING IN THE WOODS IS A LITTLE INTIMIDATING.

IF YOU FEEL ALONE AND LEAVING YOUR CAR PARKED AT THE HEAD OF A TRAIL IS AN EASY OPTION FOR BREAK-INS NATURAL AESTHETIC.

PLEASE MAKE SURE NO TREES OR NATURAL HABITATS ARE HARMED IN CONSTRUCTION OF THIS SEEDING.

IF IT'S GOING TO BE SURFACE TRAILS, THERE NEEDS TO BE PLENTY OF BENCHES ALONG THE TRAILS WHERE OLDER RESIDENTS MAY SIT AND REST OR CONVERSE WITH FRIENDS AND THEN FOR INCLUSIVE AND CHILD-FRIENDLY ACCESSIBLE ACCESS FOR EVEN THOSE WITH DISABILITIES WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

AND NEXT ONE IS HOW OFTEN DO YOU USE THE PARKS WITH THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SAYING EVERY FEW MONTHS OR EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS? UM, LET'S SEE HERE, PLEASE RATE YOUR SATISFACTION WITH THE FOLLOWING ASPECTS OF CITY PARKS, PARK QUALITY.

UH, EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE OUR LOWEST NUMBER THERE FOR PARK MAINTENANCE AND AMENITY AVAILABILITY IS 3.4.

UH, PART QUALITY IS 3.6 SAFETY 3.6 ACCESSIBILITY, 3.8, ADEQUATE PARKING 3.8.

THOSE ARE RADIO OF THE PARKS IN THE CITY OVERALL.

UH, THIS IS OUR SOCIAL MEDIA DISCOURSE ANALYSIS.

SINCE JANUARY 1ST, THERE WERE 2,824 ONLINE INTERACTIONS.

UH, 47% WERE POSITIVE.

2% WERE NEGATIVE AND 51% WERE NEUTRAL.

UM, MORE THAN THREE QUARTERS OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA DISCOURSE IN VIRTUALLY ALL POSITIVE INTERACTIONS CAME FROM THREE MAIN DRIVERS OF CONVERSATION, ESCAPE, BMX PARK CARE, CHILL, METRO PARK, AND THE CLOUD PARK SPLASH PAD.

SO OUT OF ALL OF THE TALKS ABOUT PARKS, THOSE WERE THE THREE MAIN TOPICS.

OKAY.

THIS IS GOING TO BE LONG AND LENGTHY.

I THINK HERE.

ALL RIGHT, CONCLUSIONS, THE SURVEY RESULTS OUTLINED ABOVE INDICATE THAT ALL THOSE, SOME DOUBTS LINGER ABOUT THE PROPOSED MULTIPURPOSE NATURAL SURFACE TRAILS AND CHANGES TO DIAL PARK, A FRAGILE CONSENSUS SUPPORTS THE PLAN AND MANY ARE EAGER TO PROVIDE INPUT ON ENHANCING THE COMMUNITIES, RECREATIONAL SPACES, RESPONSES IN THE CLOSE ENDED QUESTION INDICATE THAT LOCALS ARE AVID USERS OF FEWER PARKS WITH MOST VISITING AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH.

FURTHER RESPONDENTS EXPRESSED OVERALL SATISFACTION WITH PARKS SERVICES AND AMENITIES, AND BOTH THE SURVEY AND THE RELEVANT SOCIAL MEDIA DISCOURSE AS SUCH THE SURVEY FINDINGS SUGGEST THAT RESIDENTS VIEW LOCAL PARKS AS A CENTRAL PART OF THEIR DAILY LIVES AND ENJOY UTILIZING OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL SPACES.

HOWEVER, THE LOWER USAGE OF PARKS BY RESIDENTS AND YOUR DIAL SUGGESTS THAT THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS BAIN BE A WELCOME ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS PARKS.

HOWEVER, WHEN IT CAME TO PLANS FOR THE MULTIPURPOSE TRAILS AT DIAL PARK, THERE APPEARED TO BE SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

AS RESPONDENTS REPORTED ABOUT HEARING PLANS FOR BIKE TRAILS, BIKE SKATE PARK, WHICH MAY HAVE CONFUSED WITH THE MONITA PARK PROJECT AND DEDICATED HIKING TRAILS.

AND WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT OTHER DIAL PARK AMENITIES WERE BEING PROPOSED.

THIS CONFUSION MAY

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HAVE BEEN EXACERBATED BECAUSE MOST RESIDENTS HAD HEARD ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FROM SOCIAL MEDIA OR WORD OF MOUTH, AND ONLY A HANDFUL KNEW FROM LOCAL NEWSPAPERS OR TV REPORTS ACCORDINGLY.

IF THE CITY WERE TO PUBLISH MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXACT PLANS FOR THE PARK, EITHER ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR THROUGH PRINT AND BROADCAST MEDIA RESIDENTS MAY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE FORMING A HOLISTIC OPINION ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.

NEVERTHELESS, RESPONDENTS EXPRESSED MORE SUPPORT FOR THE TRAILS THAN OPPOSITION.

ALTHOUGH THE DEGREE OF SUPPORT WAS HIGHER AMONG RESIDENTS AND NOT IN THE DIAL PARK AREA AND PARTICULAR RESIDENTS CITED.

THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT WOULD BRING IN TERMS OF PROVIDING MORE NATURAL AND RECREATIONAL SPACES AND ACTIVITIES FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN EMPHASIZING THESE BENEFICIAL ADDITIONS TO THE COMMUNITY MAY HELP BOLSTER SUPPORT FOR THE PLAN, ESPECIALLY AMONG THE MORE SKEPTICAL RESIDENTS IN THE DIAL PARK AREA AT THE SAME TIME DOUBT ABOUT THE PROPOSAL AND ITS FEASIBILITY PRIMARILY STEMMED FROM CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING AND TRAFFIC, PUBLIC SAFETY, NOISE, TRASH, AND GENERAL CONCERN THAT ALL THE CITY'S RESIDENTS WOULD NOT EQUALLY BENEFIT FROM THE INVESTMENT, ADDRESSING THESE PAINT, THESE PAIN POINTS, WHILE BOTH ADDRESSING CONCERNS OF DIAL PARK AREA RESIDENTS AND EMPHASIZING THE BENEFITS.

THE PARK WOULD BRING TWO NON DIAL PARK RESIDENTS MAY ALSO BOLSTER SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSAL TO CONCLUDE.

ALTHOUGH THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF SUPPORT FOR LOCAL PARKS, WE ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO CLOSE THE FEEDBACK LOOP ABOVE AND AROUND THE ABOVE CONCERNS RAISED BY RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO THE PARTICULARS OF THE DIAL PARK PROPOSAL AND THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE EXTERNALITIES ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS RESIDENTS.

AND THEN THIS IS JUST SHOWING ALL THE STREETS THAT WE'RE GIVEN THE SURVEY AND THAT'S IT? YES.

YEAH, YEAH.

WE WILL MAKE IT AVAILABLE.

ALRIGHT, THANKS JOHN.

SO ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YEAH.

JOSH ONLY ISSUE A PARKING.

UH, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE, UH, CHIEF OF POLICE AND WHAT PROBLEM THAT MIGHT CALL SHELLCODE THAT'S RIGHT IN THE TOP OF A HEEL.

I THINK, UH, MY NEIGHBOR BACK HERE, YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU COME AROUND A CURVE AT THE TOP OF A HILL AND YOU GOT COST PARKING THERE WITH CHILDREN AROUND THE CARS AND EVERYTHING.

UH, I THINK WE BROKE THIS UP BEFORE SAYING THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MAY BE THE, THE LONG POLE IN THE 10TH.

YOU'RE SAYING WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE PEOPLE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT, UM, WHEN I HAD CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF LINER AND HE SAID THE BEST OPTION WOULD BE TO PUT, YOU KNOW, PARKING ON THE, AND PUT A PARKING LOT FURTHER INTO THE PARK, NOT STREET PARKING, BUT ACTUALLY HAVE A POOL IN PARKING LOT.

THAT'S WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

AND THAT WAS PART OF WHEN WE ORIGINALLY STARTED DISCUSSING EVERYTHING AND MAKING CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YES.

IS THERE, DO YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF A BLUEPRINT OR WHATEVER DRAWN UP NOW OF WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE SINCE YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IN THE TRACKS AND EVERYTHING AND THEY WENT, THANK GOODNESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY, I SAID, I HOPE THE KIDS ARE HAVING FUN.

IT'S GREAT.

THERE'S 65 KIDS UP THERE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

I MEAN, BUT IT'S AN EYESORE.

YOU GOT TO ADMIT IF HE HAD TO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, RIGHT.

THAT WAS YOUR VIEWPOINT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

IT IS A MONSTROSITY.

I'M SO GLAD.

I'M SO GLAD THAT AT LEAST THAT ENDED UP WHERE IT IS.

I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY'RE VERY HAPPY.

YOU CAN BE CLOSER TO HOME.

UH, AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL UP THERE.

WELL, WHAT I'M THINKING IN MY HEAD IS WHAT ABOUT THE KANSAS DIAL AND DOWN OVER TO THE RECRUITER OVER HERE? WELL, WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THAT FACILITY IN THERE THOUGH, THERE WASN'T THAT MANY, I MEAN, I JUST SEEN, I'M GLAD THAT IT WAS BUILT THE, WHERE IT WAS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE YOU SAID, YES, THERE'S CHILDREN THERE AND THEY NEED SOMETHING TO DO.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT MY POINT.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS TOO AGGRESSIVE FOR THE AREA.

WAS MY POINT.

SO BACK

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TO YOUR QUESTION, NO, WE HAVEN'T PUT TOGETHER A BLUEPRINT BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING FOR THE BOARD TO, TO SEE THIS FINAL, UM, SURVEY RESULTS AND THEN TAKE THAT AND SEE WHAT IT IS WE COULD PUT IN THERE.

WELL, HERE WAS MY OTHER QUESTION.

I REMEMBER AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE WERE AT, THAT YOU ASKED JOSH TO CHECK OUT AND SEE IF THAT AREA WOULD BE, COULD BE USED AS LIKE A RESERVE OR A GREEN SPACE.

WAS THAT EVER LOOKED INTO, I MEAN, ANYTHING CAN BE USED AS GREENSPACE AND IT'S GOT GRASS IN IT.

WELL, OKAY.

BUT I'M THERE AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF WILDLIFE BACK THERE, THE DEER AND THE ANTELOPE PLAY, I MEAN A LOT OF WILDLIFE AND THEY ALL COME FROM RAP UP THROUGH, UP THROUGH THERE AND THEY USE THAT AREA.

IT'S THE ONLY PLACE THEY HAVE TO GO.

I'M MY BIG ISSUE TOO, IS MORE ABOUT SAFETY AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE WILDLIFE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO THEN I WAS ASKING, CAN THAT BE CONVERTED FOR WILDLIFE, BUT STILL USE, MAYBE HAVE WALKING TRAILS, YOU KNOW, MORE OF LIKE A RESERVE TYPE AREA WITH WALKING TRAILS AND STUFF.

I MEAN, EVEN FOR KIDS, FOR NATURE WALKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I THINK WOULD BE GREAT AND BE IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA TO BE ABLE TO TAKE YOUR KIDS ON NATURE WALKS AND STUFF BACK IN THROUGH THERE.

SO HAS THAT, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? I MEAN, ANYTHING RIGHT NOW IS A POSSIBILITY, CAUSE WE'RE STILL IN, LOOKED INTO AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED TO DOING, I MEAN, EVEN A SMALL PLAYGROUND OR WHATEVER, BUT MY THING IS JUST NOT AS AGGRESSIVE IT'S EITHER THAT, OR LEAVE IT ALONE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE WILDLIFE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WILDLIFE BACK THERE.

YEAH.

SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY FROM, FROM HEARING THIS, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK BY HAVING A NATURAL PLAY IN THE TRAILS, VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FOR THAT.

UM, THERE'S ALSO POSITIVE FEEDBACK TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND, UM, A WALKING PATH AROUND THE PARK IN SHELTERS IN BASED ON OUR LAST CONVERSATION LAST YEAR, YOU, YOU WERE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMETHING THAT WAS, THAT HAD SOME PEOPLE SO MUCH I'M FOR, BUT IT'S JUST THAT I KNOW THAT I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A COMPROMISE, RIGHT? IF I HAD IT UP, IF IT WAS LEFT UP TO ME, I'D LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPROMISE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA TO USE IF THEY WANT TO.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE SELFISH AND SAY, DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR EITHER.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SIMPLIFIED AND MORE OF A NATURE TYPE THING AS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING AGGRESSIVE, WELL, LIGHT TRAILS.

I MEAN THE BIKE PARKING LOT WAS GONE.

I MEAN, THAT'S OFF THE TABLE CAUSE THAT'S ALREADY AT ANOTHER LOCATION.

CORRECT.

SO I MEAN THAT AGGRESSIVE PART ISN'T THERE NOW.

THAT'S NOT EVEN AN OPTION.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT.

UM, SO MEAN NOW YOU'RE TALKING TRAILS IN THE WOODS AND SOMETHING IN THE OPEN SPACE AND WHAT THAT IS, NO OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID BEFORE THOUGH, PEOPLE, I MEAN THAT OPEN AREA, THERE ARE KIDS THAT GO OVER THERE AND, AND, AND PLAY BALL AND FOOTBALL OR KIDS, PEOPLE TAKE THEIR KIDS OVER AND FLY KITES IN THAT OPEN AREA BECAUSE THERE'S NO TREES, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S NOT USED, IT'S NOT USED A LOT BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S NOT A PARK, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT OPEN AREA FOR KIDS PLAYING SOCCER OR PRACTICING PITCHING BALL, WHATEVER THEIR KIDS IN THAT AREA THAT DO USE THAT OPEN AREA, THE PLAIN AREA, THE GREEN SPACE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY PLACE ELSE AROUND.

THAT'S LIKE THAT THE KIDS CAN GO INTO AND PLAY WITH NO TREES, FLY YOUR KITE, YOU KNOW, RUN AROUND, WON'T RUN INTO TREES.

IT WAS JUST, THE OPEN AREA IS A GOOD THING TO LEAVE IT AS OPEN AND, AND ANYTHING WE PUT IN THERE, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING, YOU PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO TAKE UP, YOU KNOW, THEY PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO TAKE UP 50 BY 60 AND A SHELTER HOUSES ROUGHLY THE SAME SIZE.

SO YOU PUT THOSE FARTHER IN THE BACK, YOU STILL GOT A WHOLE BIG OPEN FIELD AREA THAT COULD BE USED OR WHATEVER.

RIGHT.

BUT JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING, I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING WE CLEAR TRAILS THROUGH THE WOODS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE.

NOT LIKE WHETHER OUR NOW YOU'VE GOT TO DUCK AND WEAVE UNDERNEATH EVERYTHING.

SO WOULD YOU CLEAN OUT A LOT OF THE BRUSH AND STUFF THAT'S BACK

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IN, THROUGH THERE IN THE AREAS THAT WE WERE PUTTING TRAILS IN THE HONEYSUCKLE WOULD BE, WOULD BE REMOVED IN THOSE AREAS.

ONE OF THE STUFF OFF TO THE SIDE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT WOULD STAY.

THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING TOO IS BECAUSE I, I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION.

IT HAD BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THAT AREA BACK IN THERE WAS CLEANED UP.

NOW I REMEMBER WHEN THE GIRL SCOUTS IN ORDER TO EARN THEIR BADGES OR WHATEVER USED TO GO AND TAKE A WEEKEND AND CLEAN UP BACK IN THAT AREA.

AND THEY WOULD COME OUT WITH TRASH BAGS AND TRASH BAGS FULL OF TRASH.

WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR CLEANUP DAY, I BET YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A DUMPSTER.

I BET FOR BACK IN THERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE, THEY HAD TIRES, THEY HAD KIDS, OUTDOOR TOYS, EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF, THE PEOPLE HAVE DISREGARD, YOU KNOW, JUST GOTTEN RID OF AND THROWN IT IN THE WOODS.

WE HAVE A GROUP THAT'S NOT GOING OUT THIS WEEKEND, BUT WE DO HAVE A GROUP.

THE ACTUALLY THE, UM, THE, SO THEY'RE SIXTH GRADE TO 12TH GRADE, IT'S THE, UH, INTERSCHOLASTIC CYCLING ASSOCIATION GROUP IS PLANNING.

CAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO TRAIL PRESERVATION HOURS.

SO THEY'RE PLANNING TO GO OUT THERE AND GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE AREA AND PULL EVERYTHING.

THAT'S NOT NATURAL OUT THAT THEY CAN, BUT YEAH, ANYWHERE THAT, THAT WE PUT TRAILS IN THAT, YES, THE HONEYSUCKLE WILL BE REMOVING THOSE AREAS.

BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AREAS BACK THERE ARE OVERGROWN WITH IT AND, AND WE'LL CLEAN UP WHAT WE CAN.

BUT A LOT OF THAT FUNNY STUFF THAT WILL STAY BECAUSE SOME OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, COVER OR SOME OF THE WILDLIFE.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DELINEATED PATH TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT AREAS ARE SAFE TO GO TO AND WHAT AREAS AREN'T.

CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S AN AREA TOWARDS THE BACK THERE WHERE THERE'S A PRETTY STEEP, THE BENCHES FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE TAKING A WALK, WANT TO SIT DOWN.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF BIRDS, A LOT OF THEIR HAWKS AND ALL KINDS OF BIRDS.

WOODPECKERS.

I HEARD THE WOODPECKER OUT THERE POUNDING ACROSS THE FIELD THIS MORNING.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THERE'S A LOT WILD BIRDS UNLIMITED IS ACTUALLY, UH, SENT ME OVER SOME PRICING, DISCOUNTED PRICING LISTS.

SO FOR THAT LOCATION FOR RIP RAP, WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IN THE POLLINATOR PASTURE AND FOR CLOUD, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO PUT UP SOME BIRD FEEDERS AND BIRD HOUSES AND HABITATS IN THOSE AREAS.

RIGHT.

BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL OPEN AREAS.

OKAY.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO PLAN AS OF YET BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING FOR, FOR THIS TO BE DONE AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND SEE, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT THE SURVEY SHOWS THAT PEOPLE WANT.

SO LET'S START, LET'S START THERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.

AND EVEN WITH A PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE.

I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME NON-CONVENTIONAL PLAYGROUND STRUCTURES THAT AREN'T BRIGHT, VIBRANT COLORS.

SO SINCE IT WOULD BE A SMALL AND MORE OF A NATURE TYPE PARK, WHAT ARE YOU, WHERE DO YOU GO WITH PARKING? I MEAN, HOW SMALL OF A LOT I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT AND SEE JUST A SMALL NATURE TYPE PARK WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO PULL INTO, TAKE THEIR KIDS, WALK ON THE TRAILS OR WHATEVER, AND A SMALL PLAYGROUND PARKING LOT.

I THINK IT'S BASED ON LIKE POPULATION IN THE AREA.

THERE'S A MINIMUM AND A MAXIMUM, LIKE THERE PROBABLY IS NO MAXIMUM, BUT I THINK THERE'S A MINIMUM REQUIRED TO SERVICE AN AREA.

AND IF I, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, UM, MR. WHEN HE WAS HERE, WHEN WE HAD LOOKED AT IT, I THINK IT WAS 25 PARKING SPACES THAT WE HAD TO HAVE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, OUT OF THAT 25, I BELIEVE TO HAVE TO BE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.

UM, SO I THINK THAT WAS THE MINIMUM AND I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, UM, AND, AND I COULDN'T EVEN CHECK WITH RUSS, OUR ENGINEER TO SEE, AND THEY WOULD PROBABLY BASE IT UPON THAT WEDGE OF TOWN.

OKAY.

THERE'S THIS MANY RESIDENTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY USE THIS.

SO HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.

UM, AND THEN WE WOULD PUT THAT FORWARD AND MY OTHER THING IS PUTTING THE PARKING ON HIM, BUT THAT'S WHY I SAID, I GUESS I'M.

YEAH.

SO, YEAH.

AND THE, SO WHEN YOU SAY, WHEN I SAY THERE'S NO BLUEPRINT, THERE'S NOT ONE ON PAPER, BUT SO HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I ENVISIONED CHECK-INS THOUGH SEEN ABOUT A WRITTEN ABOUT A NATURE PARK AND A RESERVE AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT IT DOESN'T GET, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE FOR A RESERVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE HAS TO BE WETLANDS OR IF THEY'RE ASKED TO BE IN DANGER AND WILDLIFE SPRING AND EVERYTHING BACK THERE.

YEAH.

SO, SO HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

UM, WE HAVE THAT PORTION, THE DISCUSSION PORTION LATER ON, UM, IN THE MEETING.

SO WE CAN TABLE THAT DISCUSSION FOR RIGHT NOW AND THEN THE BOARD CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY JUST HEARD.

AND THEN WE'LL START THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PERHAPS WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE TO SEE IN THE PARTS.

UM, AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL.

UM, THEN THAT WILL ALLOW JOSH TO DO HIS THING, TO START LOOKING AT A DESIGN OR SOMETHING.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN FURTHER DISCUSS IT AND THEN TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.

ULTIMATELY,

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THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THE, UM, THE, WHO HAD THE DECISION TO DO THIS IS COUNSEL.

WE WILL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

AND I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

UM, BUT, UM, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, THE BOARD A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER ON IN THE MEETING.

AND IT'S ABOUT A COUPLE OF SUBJECTS DOWN AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

THINGS JOBS.

WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOSH ON THE BRIEF? OKAY, CHRIS WELL, WE DIDN'T SEND ANY OUT.

WE SENT THE POSTCARD OUT WHERE THEY HAD THE OPTION TO TAKE IT OR NOT.

I'M TRYING TO THINK WE PRINTED 1200 AND I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WENT OUT.

I THINK IT SAYS AT THE BEGINNING, HOW MANY ACTUALLY TOOK IT HERE? LET ME GO BACK HERE.

UH, 472 RESPONSES OUT OF 1200 CARDS THAT WERE PASSED OUT, PLUS ALL THE, ALL THE DIGITALLY MORE THAN WE GET ON THOSE SURVEYS.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND PLUS THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THEM ALSO HEARD ABOUT IT FROM, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA.

RIGHT.

OKAY, CHRIS, ALL RIGHT.

UM, JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON SHELTER RENTALS.

UM, WE'RE AT 139 AS OF THIS AFTERNOON.

UM, WE DID 5 69, UM, LAST YEAR.

SO, UM, WE'RE ON A PRETTY GOOD PACE TO BE WHERE WE WERE AT LAST YEAR.

UM, SO AS THE WEATHER HOPEFULLY GETS WARMER, MORE PEOPLE REALIZE, OH, CRAP, I NEED A SHELTER AND THEY'LL START CALLING OR COMING BY.

UM, BUT YEAH, UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF SHELTER RENTALS GOING ON RIGHT NOW, UM, AS FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER, UM, WE WILL START, WE STARTED FILLING OUR FIRST BODY OF WATER TODAY.

UM, THE WEATHER THIS WEEK, UM, HAS NOT BEEN GOOD FOR US, UM, BUT WE'RE STILL ON TRACK TO HAVE EVERYTHING READY.

UM, OUR MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH INSPECTION FOR OPENING IS SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, MAY 17TH.

UM, SO AS LONG AS THAT GOES, WELL, UH, ALL BODIES OF WATER WILL BE LICENSED AND READY TO GO FOR MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.

UM, WE NEED THE WEATHER TO GET WARMER ALSO.

UH, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT GOT APPROVED LAST FALL WAS TO PAINT THE TWO WATER SLIDES AND THE SLIDE TOWER, UM, BAY NUMB OUT OF NORTHERN KENTUCKY, UM, WAS AWARDED THE JOB AND, UM, IT'S GOTTA BE ABOVE 55 DEGREES, PRETTY MUCH IN THE EVENINGS FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND PAY.

SO IF WE CAN BREAK THIS SNOW AND COLD WEATHER, UM, THEY'RE SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW TO COME OUT THE FIRST WEEKEND MAY, SO THAT'D BE MAY 2ND.

THEY WOULD BE OUT TAKE ABOUT 10 DAYS TO GET DONE.

UM, SO THAT LINES UP PERFECTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

UM, AS FOR HIRING STAFF, WE'RE, WE'RE AT A GOOD SPOT.

WE OF COURSE NEED LIFEGUARDS AS ALWAYS.

UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING THERE.

UM, AND WE'RE ON TRACK TO BE OPEN ON SATURDAY, MAY 28TH.

SO HOPEFULLY THE WEATHER IS BETTER THAN LAST YEAR.

CAUSE I THINK MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, LAST YEAR WAS COLD AND RAINY AND NOT VERY NICE CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE ACTUALLY OPENED THE POOL UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF THAT WEEK.

AND WE WERE THE FIRST PART OF JUNE, SO WELL ALWAYS RAN TO THE WARRIOR CLASS.

SO THEY MOVE THEIR WEEKEND.

YOU MIGHT HAVE A GOOD CHANCE.

NO, SO, BUT WE'RE ON TRACK.

AWESOME.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRIS? I CAN WAIT TILL THE END, IF YOU WANT ME TO, OR I CAN JUST DO NOW AND GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY.

GO AHEAD.

UM, THE, UH, LAST FEATURE FOR THE SKATE PARK BIKE PARK, UH, WAS STARTED ON MONDAY.

THE CREWS SHOWED UP FROM CALIFORNIA, UH, TO BEGIN THAT, UH, SO WHETHER, DEPENDING WHICH IT'S MAY OR IT'S APRIL AND MAY, SO, YOU KNOW, THEIR TIMELINE SHOT, BUT, UH, THEY SAID FOUR WEEKS, IT'LL PROBABLY BE MORE LIKE FIVE OR SIX.

UM, BUT WE HAVE GUYS ON SITE TWO GENTLEMEN RIGHT NOW, GETTING EVERYTHING MAPPED OUT, DUG OUT FOR THE INITIAL TRAIL.

UH, THEY'RE GONNA START DOING SOME TERRAFORMING, UH, TOMORROW, IF, WHETHER IT LOOKS NICE.

AND UM, THEN OF COURSE MONDAY WAS A RAIN OUT AGAIN.

SO SOMETIME NEXT WEEK THEY'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT.

UM, WE HAVE A TENTATIVE GRAND OPENING DATE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, JUNE 11TH, BUT, UM, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT YET.

CAUSE WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING TO SEE THAT GIVES EIGHT WEEKS FROM WHEN THEY STARTED IN ORDER TO, UH,

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FOR THEM TO FINISH UP AND TO, FOR US TO GET SOME CLEAN UP AND QUITE POSSIBLY GET THE ROAD AND PARKING LOTS REPAVED.

UM, SO ALL OF THAT IS ON, IS ON EVERYBODY'S RADAR.

UM, ALL THE, UH, CONTRACTORS KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS AND THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.

UM, THE GYMNASIUM AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, WILL BE STARTING MONDAY.

THEY'RE PAINTING THAT.

SO NEXT WEEK, UM, THE ONLY RENTAL WE HAD DURING THE WEEK WAS A SCOUT, WAS A CUB SCOUT TROOP.

AND HE SAID THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE MEETING NEXT WEEK ANYWAY.

SO WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE WEEK BLOCKED FOR THAT ROOM.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THERE AND GET THAT FRESH AND UP.

UM, WE DID GET A NEW SIGN OUT FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S BEEN BUYING, SEEN THAT.

UM, SO THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF AND UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK, OH, AND WE, WE GOT MORE TABLES AND CHAIRS.

SO OUR CAPACITY'S NOW ABOUT 80, UM, THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SEAT AT 22 TABLES, 80 CHAIRS.

AND UM, SO FAR I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY NEED MORE THAN THAT.

SO WE ARE, UH, WE'RE GOOD THERE.

AND THEN, UH, LIKE I SAID, PLAYGROUND, EICHELBERGER WILL BE THIS WEEK.

HOPEFULLY THEY'LL START, UM, GETTING THE GROUND STRIPPED OUT OVER THERE.

AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS ONE OTHER ONE I FORGOT.

I'LL LET YOU WITH DO WHAT COMMUNITY GARDENS .

SO RIGHT NOW THOSE RAISED BEDS ARE GOING TO BE USED TO HEAL IN 75 TREES THAT WE PURCHASED TO PUT IN A RIP RAP.

AND SO ONCE THE POLLINATOR PASTURES ARE PLANTED AND WE GET THOSE TREES IN, THEN WE WILL, UH, HAVE THOSE BEDS AVAILABLE TO START PLANTING.

I THINK FOR THIS YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY PLANT A LOT OF PUMPKINS IN THERE, UH, FOR AN EVENT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AN OCTOBER.

UM, SO WE WILL HAVE SOME PUMPKINS FOR THE EVENT, UM, AND THEN, UH, LOOK TO THE FUTURE ON MORE BEDS AND MORE SPACE AND WHAT WE CAN DO OUT THERE, BUT FOR THIS YEAR, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO JUST PLANT THE PUMPKINS.

SO YEAH, WE GOT IT.

PLENTY OF IT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JOSH? OKAY, GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT EVENT.

UM, EARTH DAY PLANS.

UH, BLAKE.

YEAH.

SO THIS SATURDAY, APRIL 23RD, FROM 10 TO TWO, WE HAVE EARTH DAY CELEBRATION OVER AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS 43 0 1 POWELL ROAD.

UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES PLANNED, UH, SO MANY THAT I NEED A LIST AND, UH, OR ELSE I'LL FORGET SOME OF THEM.

UM, SO I HAVE THE FLYER THAT I'LL PASS AROUND.

UM, SO SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARK CLEANUP.

UH, WE RESERVED A TRAILER FROM THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.

UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT SATURDAY MORNING.

UM, IT'S GOT LIKE SHOVELS AND GRABBERS AND UH, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO, UH, OUTDOOR WORK AND THAT'S FREE.

AND UM, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON, UH, FROM 10 TO 12 OR SORRY, FROM 12 TO TWO, UM, WE'VE ALSO GOT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN PREP WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PREP THOSE BOXES, UH, THAT THE TREES ARE IN PUMPKIN'S ARE GOING TO GO INTO.

UM, SO WE'VE GOT SOME, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE, UH, WEEDS AND THINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THOSE AND THEN FILL IT IN WITH MULCH TO GET READY FOR THE TREES.

UM, AND THEN, SO THAT'LL BE FROM 10 TO NOON.

SO 10 TO NOON IS THE, UH, THE BED PREPPING AND THEN NOON TO TWO IS THE PARK CLEANUP.

UM, WE'VE ALSO GOT A ROCK PAINTING CLASS THAT'LL BE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE AFTERNOON.

PEOPLE CAN JUST POP IN, UM, PAINT ROCKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE ROCKS KIND OF AROUND THE, UM, THE S THE COMMUNITY CENTER SIGN, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT THAT'LL BE THEIR FINAL RESTING PLACE.

UM, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET, BUT AT LEAST I'M TALKING ABOUT MAYBE GETTING A ROCK GARDEN, PUT IN, UM, A PERMANENT ONE AT SOME POINT.

UH, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO VARY THEM CREATION CLASS AND WILDFLOWER AND SEED PLANTER GIVEAWAYS.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT A CUB SCOUT AND BOY SCOUT, UH, PACKING TROOP COMING OUT TO RUN KIND OF LIKE, UH, UH, CAMPS, A CAMP GROUND SET UP WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIRE BUILDING, UH, ACTIVITY, AND THEN THE HAVE SOME TENTS SET UP AND THEY'LL DO KIND OF LIKE A, UM, RECRUITING EVENT.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A, UH, LIKE A BIG TREVI SHEA WITH A LAUNCH TENNIS BALLS ACROSS THE BIG OPEN FIELD.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S OF COURSE THE BASKETBALL COURTS THERE WE'LL HAVE BASKETBALLS THERE FOR KIDS TO PLAY.

AND WE'VE ALSO GOT A FOOD TRUCK FOR YOU AS FOOD TRUCK TRAILER.

AND AS OF, I DON'T KNOW, RECENTLY, I GUESS WE HAVE KONA ICE ALSO.

COOL.

UM, UM, THEY SAW 80 DEGREES ON SATURDAY.

THEY WANT TO TAKE NICE.

UM, SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FREE TIME, YOU KNOW, COME UP FOR AN HOUR OR SO, AND, UH, HELP PASS OUT PLANNERS OR, OR FILL IN THE GARDEN BEDS, BUT THAT'LL BE FROM 10 TO TWO ON SATURDAY.

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AND OF COURSE IT'S FOR BLAKE.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP OF CARE REVIEW OF THE 2022 PRIORITIZATIONS, I'M SORRY, 2001 PRIORITIZATION SHEET.

SO, UM, AGAIN, UM, STARTING NEXT MONTH, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH START MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 2022 TO SUBMIT TO COUNCIL.

UM, WHAT I WILL SAY IS RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S ON OUR CURRENT LIST IS, UM, THE BASKETBALL COURTS NORTH OF 70, WHICH JOSH HAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO AND HE'S CAPTURING SOME, SOME BIDS ON THAT.

UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO LOOK AT ADDING A FITNESS PAD OR A CIRCUIT PAD SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY AT ONE OF THE PARTNERS.

UM, WE DISCUSSED, UM, AT, IN CONSIDERING ADDING A PERMANENT BATHROOM TO COMMUNITY PARK AS WELL.

UM, WE STILL WANT TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL OF ADDING IN SOME TYPE OF MODERN, INTERACTIVE TECHNOLOGY INTO THE PARTS.

SO SORT OF MAKING THEM SMART PARTS, UH, AD.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON ADDING A PLAYGROUND, SO EICHELBERGER AMPHITHEATER, SO THAT WE'LL MOVE OFF THE LIST.

UH, THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE IT, UM, EXPANDING THE SHOWCASE PARKING LOT WAS ALSO ANOTHER THING THAT WE DISCUSSED ADDED ANOTHER BATHROOM TO THOMAS CALLED PARK, UH, CONSIDER ADDING ANOTHER VOLLEYBALL COURT TO THOMAS CLOUD PARK, WALKING AT COTTONWOOD, LOOKING AT THAT.

AND THEN I HAVE ONE HERE AT THE BASEBALL AND MOUNTAIN BASEBALL DIAMONDS.

SO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY, UM, THE BASE SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL ASSOCIATION, CORRECT.

AS FAR AS, UM, YES, I'M DOING THAT.

YOU'RE DOING THAT.

OR AT CLOUD, OR ALMOST DONE AGAIN, WHETHER HAS BEEN A PAIN IN THE BUTT, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE FROM THERE TO MONITA AND FOR MONEY TO BACK TO CLOUD.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO STRIP OUT THE HARDBALL DIAMOND.

THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE SPLASH PAD FIELD ONE AND REDO IT AS WELL.

THERE WILL BE 4, 6, 7 FIELDS, UM, BY SUMMERTIME.

OKAY.

SO THEN THAT WILL ALSO COME UP WITH THIS AS WELL.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, FROM NOW UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING, GO OUT INTO THE PARKS, SEE WHAT WE HAVE, SEE WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD.

I WILL ALSO SEND OUT ON WHAT WE, THE COMPLETED LESSON LAST YEAR AS WELL, SO THAT YOU ALL WILL HAVE IT ALSO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THE PROGRAMMING NOW I TOLD YOU I WOULD KEEP PROGRAMMING ON THE LIST, UM, AS A PERMANENT ITEM SO THAT WE WON'T MISS ANYTHING AND WE CAN CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE IDEAS WE WANTED TO ADD TO THE PART.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS START WITH, UM, CHRIS HALL, I THINK.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

CHRIS HALL, UM, BASKETBALL.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BASKETBALL YET? LET'S TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

GO FOR IT.

CAN I TOUCH BASE WITH YOU WERE GOING TO DO A LOWER, SO WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT, I'D SAY PROBABLY 11.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I WOULD SAY THAT.

CAUSE I THINK THE 11, 12 LEAGUE WAS 10 FOOT 10.

SO I WOULD SAY 11, 12 ALL THE WAY.

I THINK FROM LOOKING AT IT MORE, IF YOU DID THAT 11 TO 14, 15 TO 18, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AN ADULT, IF WE WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SPLIT IT UP INTO THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY COVER THE MOST BASES THAT WAY.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE DECIDE, DO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE MEN'S WOMEN'S TEAMS, CO-MINGLED MEN'S WOMEN'S TEAMS. I MEAN, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A THOUSAND OPTIONS THERE, SO, AND PROBABLY LOOK AT THE EIGHT.

THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, WE, YEAH.

I MEAN, I AM ALL FOR ONCE YOU GET PAST 18.

SURE.

YEAH.

ALEX AND DENNIS, YOU GUYS GOT A TEAM.

NO CHEST JUST NEED ONE MORE.

RIGHT, GLEN, RIGHT THERE.

HE'S GOT HIS FINGER ALL TAPED UP.

READY TO GO THERE.

HOW MANY COURTS OR WHO WAS YOUR, UM, IF WE DID CLOUD PARK, WE HAVE TWO, THE TWO FULL SIZE THERE.

UM, SO I

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MEAN, THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD RUN.

WE WOULD RUN TWO AT A TIME.

UM, BUT THEN, THEN IT DEPENDS.

IF YOU WANTED TO TRY TO DO HALF COURT, YOUR KNOW, THEN THE ONLY ISSUE YOU RUN INTO THERE IS, YOU KNOW, A STRAY BALL GOING HERE AND IT, YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

IF YOU PARTICIPATE THOSE TERMS YOU'VE USED, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH SEPARATION PLAN, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD.

RIGHT.

I THINK THAT IF YOU THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE TO GROW FROM IT, AND I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO BUY OFF THE SHOE AND HAVE CO-ED THIS, THAT YOU MAY HAVE THREE TEAMS CO-ED OR, OR WHATEVER IT DOES WARRANT TAKING UP THE OTHER PORT TIME TO MAYBE THAT OTHER TEAMS GOT TURNED AWAY THAT WANTED TO PARTICIPATE.

AGAIN, I DON'T, THAT'S OFF SCHEDULING, BUT I THINK YOU JUST FINE TUNE IT.

I THINK IF YOU GET INTO THE ORDER AGE KIDS, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE OFFICIATING YOUR CALL, YOUR OWN BRACKETS, NO LONDON FOUND ALL OF A SUDDEN.

NOW YOU GOT A LITTLE EXTRA CURRICULARS GOING ON THAT YOU DON'T WANT.

SO, UM, I'VE SENT A COUPLE OF EMAILS OVER TO WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE BASKETBALL COACH.

UH, I I'VE NEVER GOT A RESPONSE BACK BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR HELP WITH IT, AS FAR AS LIKE THE COACHES COMING IN TO DO THINGS, THE STUDENTS COMING IN TO EITHER PARTICIPATE AND OR HELP RUN THE EVENT.

UM, BUT I HAVEN'T EVER HAD THE BASKETBALL COACH TO RESPOND.

UM, SO WE'LL SEE, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE SIT DOWN AND HASH EVERYTHING OUT, WE, I KNOW THAT, UM, IS IT THE FLY INTO THE HOOPS? IS THAT THE BIG TOURNAMENT I SPOKE WITH HIM A WHILE BACK AND HE SAID, HE'S GOT AN OUTLINE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UH, WHAT YOU NEED FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE COULD SEND OVER TO ME.

AND, AND THAT'LL KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA.

I THINK WHEN I GREW UP ALWAYS GOING TO MOM'S GUS, I GUESS I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE DID FIND RULES AND THAT TYPE OF THING, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD BENCHMARK TO CONSIDER INCORPORATING THEM.

SOMEHOW AGE BRACKETS ARE BAUER THAT, I MEAN, THEY USED TO DO ONE DOWN IN CINCINNATI, AROUND SKATING BACK IN THE DAY, THEY HAD 60 COURTS, JUST ALL AROUND THE STADIUM AND THEY HAD HUNDREDS, HUNDREDS OF TEAMS PARTICIPATING IN COURT SPACE TO DO IT.

BUT IT'S I KNOW, UM, I THINK HE STEBBINS COACH, UM, JACK BROOKS, I SPOKE WITH HIM AND HE SAID, HE'D BE WILLING TO PROBABLY HELP OUT SOME, GET A COUPLE OF HIS GUYS OUT, MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, SUMMER SCHEDULE LINES UP WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT LIFE THROWS AT US.

UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS SCHEDULE AND LOOKING AT WHEN, WHEN DOES FOOTBALL CONDITIONING START, YOU'RE GOING TO START JULY 19.

SO YEAH, YOU'RE TALKING, WE GOT TO DO THIS INTO JUNE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOTTA BE SOMETIME IN JUNE OR ELSE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO ALREADY BE IN FOOTBALL CONDITIONING.

OKAY.

SO YOU, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO AS FAR IN JULY 11TH, THE LAST, THAT WEEKEND BEFORE THAT JULY NINE.

YEAH.

OBVIOUSLY JULY SECONDS OUT.

CAUSE THE COURTS WILL BE FENCED OFF.

WE CAN'T GET TO THEM ANYWAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL DO A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, CHRIS? YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM THE Y STANDPOINT, UM, AT NINE O'CLOCK STARTING IN JUNE, WE'LL HAVE A COMMUNITY GROUP EXERCISE CLASSES AT THE AMPHITHEATER BEFORE THE FARMER'S MARKET STARTS.

SO, UM, WE'LL USE WINE INSTRUCTORS, THERE'LL BE FREE AND OPEN TO ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

CLASSES WILL CHANGE FROM WEEK TO WEEK AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THE MARKETING STUFF DONE, UM, FOR THAT.

SO IN ONE WEEK IT MIGHT BE YOGA THE NEXT WEEK.

IT MIGHT BE BOOTCAMP, UH, ZUMBA, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THERE'LL BE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY, HOPING TO GIVE PEOPLE OUT BEFORE THE FARMER'S MARKET OPENS UP AT 10.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL DRIVE SOME BUSINESS YOUR WAY.

UM, THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT, UH, AUGUST 6TH IS THE STRONG KIDS TRIATHLON AT THE AQUATIC CENTER.

SO THAT SATURDAY MORNING, UM,

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WE HAD 244 KIDS PARTICIPATE LAST YEAR.

UM, SO WE'RE HOPING TO GROW THAT.

UM, AND, UH, IT WENT REALLY WELL LAST YEAR WITH TIMING.

UM, UH, CAUSE WE ACTUALLY TIMED IT USING SPEEDY FEET.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT EVENT AGAIN THIS YEAR, UM, WITH A FEW MODIFICATIONS.

UM, AND THEN, UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE TWO, FIVE KS, ONE IN SEPTEMBER, ONE IN OCTOBER, I'M STILL WORKING ON THE DETAILS OF THAT.

AND THEN, UM, WE ARE DOING A TRUNK OR TREAT AT THE Y UM, I THINK IT'S OCTOBER 23RD, THAT SUNDAY NIGHT.

SO, UM, COUPLE, COUPLE OF COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT, THAT WE'LL HAVE AS WELL.

UM, AND WE'RE WORKING ON SOME OTHER STUFF AND ONCE WE GET IT NAILED DOWN, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW.

PERFECT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRIS ARE YOU LOOKING TO, TO JUDGE NANCY? I VOLUNTEERED NANCY.

YEAH, WE PROBABLY WILL.

UM, SO IT'LL BE MOSTLY OUTSIDE OF THE Y UM, WE, WE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR PARTNERS TO PARTNER UP WITH, BUT RIGHT NOW FOR SURE WE KNOW THAT THE TRUNK OR TREAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE PARKING LOT, BUT YEAH, THE COSTUME CONTEST WILL, WILL IS PART OF WHAT WE'VE PLANNED ON.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND PENCIL YOU IN FOR YOUR AVAILABILITY THAT NIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS NANCY.

UM, JUST THE DATE FOR EVERYBODY TO PUT IN THEIR HEAD.

WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL EVENT YET, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, OCTOBER THE 22ND, UM, HAD SOMEONE FROM CULTURE AND DIVERSITY REACH OUT AND I FORGET WHAT THE DAY IS, BUT IT'S SOME KIND OF LIKE COME TOGETHER, WORK TOGETHER SORT OF DAY ONE OF THOSE EXTRA.

I FORGET WHAT IT WAS CALLED.

I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE, BUT, UM, THEY WERE ASKING FOR AN EVENT THAT SOME OF THE BOARDS COULD COME TOGETHER TO DO.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP A WHILE BACK, WHICH IS PARTIALLY WHY WE'RE PLANTING THE PUMPKINS IS POSSIBLY DOING A FAMILY LIKE FALL HARVEST FESTIVAL SORT OF THING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON THAT DATE.

SO WE GET ALL THE BOARDS TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND KIND OF DO THAT EVENT AS A LARGER GROUP.

UH, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM BACK THERE TO DO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HAY RIDES LIKE THEY DID AT THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING LAST YEAR, THEY HAD THE LITTLE WAGON PULL PEOPLE AROUND.

WE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM TO DO THAT.

WE'VE GOT ROOM TO HAVE A BONFIRE.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT PUMPKINS, WE'LL HAVE PUMPKINS WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO, THE SCOUTS MIGHT BE ABLE TO THROW SOME PUMPKINS, MAYBE IF WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, GET THE SAFETY CLEARANCE FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT TRYING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF EVENT LIKE THAT.

AND, UH, IT WAS RHONDA VINCE THAT HAD REACHED OUT ABOUT THAT.

SO I'LL, UH, I'LL GET BACK WITH HER AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE DAY WAS CALLED.

CAUSE I FORGOT.

BUT, UM, I KNOW SPEAKING WITH, UM, JERRY AND CINDY WITH A AND B, I MEAN THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD LOVE TO DO SOMETHING AND I KNOW, UM, THE IDEA OF SOME SORT OF CHILI COOK-OFF HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP FOR POSSIBLY THROWN AT THAT EVENT AS WELL.

UM, SO I SAID JUST ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE SUITABLE TO ADD TO THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR IDEAS AND HELP OBVIOUSLY FOR WHATEVER THAT EVENT BECOMES.

SO, OKAY.

I HAVEN'T HEARD IT, BUT OKAY.

THE PERSON, OTHER THINGS, BUT NOT THAT ONE.

OH, WELL THAT'S ALL I'VE HEARD, SO, OKAY.

LET'S COMPARE NOTES LATER.

WHERE'D YOU SAY? THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON PROGRAM? OKAY.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO NEW BUSINESS HERE.

SO DOWEL PARKED DISCUSSION RECOMMENDATION.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION TODAY, BUT IO COUNCIL A WAY FORWARD ON WHAT WE THINK WE SHOULD PUT AT THAT PART.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THAT ACTION AND AS SOON AS WE CAN AND THEN, SO THAT WAY WE CAN ALSO MOVE ON TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL.

UM, SO WHAT I WILL DO IS OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO YOUR IDEAS BASED OFF OF WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY, UM, FROM THE SURVEY RESULTS, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO SEE AT DOWEL PART? WELL, THE AREA KNOWN AS DEL PARK AND I'LL START TO MY LEFT.

BRIAN, UH, I, I STILL, UH, LIKE BY ORIGINAL IDEA, LIKE A CHARLESTON FALLS TYPE OF LIKE HOW CHARLESTON FALLS IS SET UP.

IT, THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL IDEA UNTIL THE WHOLE MOUNTAIN BIKE THING WAS BROUGHT IN.

THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO DO THE BIKE TRAIL WITH THE WALKING TRAIL.

SO THE NAME WAS GOING TO DO IT FOR US, BUT I STILL LIKED MY ORIGINAL IDEA OF SOMETHING LIKE CHARLESTON FALLS.

SO FOCUSING ON THE TRAIL AREA AND MAKE IT AT SIMILAR TO WHAT CHARLES CHARLES BALLS HAS.

YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE?

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I AM, I DON'T WANT TO SIDE WITH HIM.

I, I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF THE NATURAL OR NO HIKING TRAILS AND THE BIKING TRAILS, A COMBINATION.

I'M VERY WITH THAT STUFF FOR METRO CARS AND IT SEEMS TO WORK NICE, BUT I DO HAVE ONE THING TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE, UH, IF WE OWN, HOW DO YOU START HOLDING EVERYBODY WHO STAYS TRYING TO GET BETTER? SOME PEOPLE WERE HAVING THIS.

YEAH, BECAUSE I BACK EVERY YEAR, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE TO CUT IT BACK.

THEY HAVE KEVIN AND TREATED IT'LL STOP, BUT IT'S TOO LARGE OF A PROJECT FOR US BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T KILL EVERYTHING IN THAT PARK, ALL OF THE VERBS ARE GOING TO BRING IT BACK.

NOTHING TO THE MURDERS.

BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT BRINGS BACK THE NATIVE PLANTS THAT THE BIRDS PREFER.

AND THE WILDLIFE FOR A LOT OF, A LOT OF HONEYSUCKLE TAKES A LOT OF THE NUTRIENTS OUT OF THE SOIL.

SO YOUR LARGER TREES, AREN'T GETTING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET.

AND IF YOU DON'T GET A THICK ENOUGH CANOPY, A THICK CANOPY WILL CHOKE IT OUT, BUT YOU CAN'T GET A THICK ENOUGH CANOPY WHEN IT'S ALL HONEYSUCKLE AND THEY'RE STEALING ALL THE NUTRIENTS.

IT'S PART OF MY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

I'M GOING TO START THROWING MONEY IN EVERY YEAR FOR DIFFERENT PARKS TO HAVE SOME OF THAT ERADICATION DONE, UM, DEEPLY ROOTED LANDSCAPE OUT OF BEAVER CREEK.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING OUR POLLINATOR PASTURES.

THEY HAVE A VERY, UM, NATURAL REMOVAL OF PROCESS THAT THEY DO FOR HONEYSUCKLE.

UM, AND EVEN ALONG CREEKS AND AREAS WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO GET ANYTHING IN THE WATER THERE'S, THERE'S STUFF THAT THEY MAKE THAT AS WATER SAFE THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THERE.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT GOES DOWN IN, YOU DO IT IN THE FALL.

WHEN IT'S DRAWING IN THE LAST OF ALL THE NUTRIENTS, THEY CAN GET, YOU PUT THE STUFF ON IN THE FALL AND IT GOES DOWN AND IT JUST KILLS THE ROOTS.

AND THEN SOMETIMES YOU CAN GO IN, IN THE SPRING AND JUST PLUCK IT RIGHT OUT.

AND THE ROOTS ARE SOFT AND BRITTLE AND THEY JUST POP RIGHT OUT.

BUT LIKE HE DID SAY, UNLESS SOMETHING STARTS TO GROW BACK IN ITS PLACE, ALL THE BIRDS GOT TO DO IS POOP.

AND THERE'S HUNTING CYCLE, YOU KNOW, SAME THING WITH YOUR MULBERRY BUSHES, SAME THING WITH ALL THAT STUFF.

I WAS AT A PARK, UH, OPEN FOREST IN KENTUCKY A MONTH AGO, WALKING.

THERE WAS NOT ONE PIECE, ONE PIECE.

IT WAS BEAUTIFUL AND GEAR AND BIRDS AND OTHER NATURAL WILDLIFE WAS FANTASTIC.

SO HOW DO YOU STOP? THAT IS INVASIVE.

I NEVER HAD MORE TO THAT OF ALL THE TIME.

I LIKE YOUR IDEA.

I'M DONE CHRIS.

I DON'T ZERO THE MIND ON THE CHARLESTON PAUL PATTON TRAIL, BUT I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THE SURVEY KIND OF SPOKE AND HE SAYS PLAYGROUND AREA OVER THERE.

UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF BEATS, THE PURPOSE OF SENDING A SURVEY OUT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT BOND.

SO THEY, NO MATTER WHAT WE CAN DO, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND.

AND I REALLY FOUND WITH MORE NOISE AND PARKING AND ALL THAT, BUT KIND OF KNEW THAT WHEN THE SURVEY WENT OUT PLAYGROUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THE PLAYGROUND HAS TO BE IN A BOTTLE, EVEN THE GREEN AND LIKE ALL THAT.

AND THEN YOU NEED THAT ALSO.

BUT I, YOU AGREE THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES IN THAT AREA AND THAT'S NOT REALLY ADVERTISED OVER THERE, THEN OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

SO I WILL SAY THAT TO YOUR POINT EARLIER.

YES.

THERE'S NO PLAN ON PAPER YET, BUT THE INITIAL THOUGHT IS TO HAVE A PERIMETER TRAIL.

LIKE WE HAVE AT ALL OF OUR OTHER PARKS, THAT'S PAID OR GRAVEL, IT'S STILL ACCESSIBLE THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK

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IN THE OPEN AREA JUST ALONG THE OUTSIDE OF, AND THEN THAT TAKES YOU TO THE BACK AREA WHERE WE COULD PUT IN A PAVILION OR A PLAYGROUND, AND IT STILL MAKES THAT ACCESSIBLE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'VE GOT THOSE COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTORS IN, YOU CAN TAKE THOSE, UM, CAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE CHARLES STREET IN BEHIND YOUR HOUSE ON IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTORS CAN ALMOST COME IN AND GO RIGHT INTO THE WOODS, BUT YOU STILL HAVE ONE LITTLE FINGER THAT CONNECTS TO THAT ACTUAL PATRIOT.

AND THEN WE MARKED THAT OUT AT A SPECIFIC LINK.

SO PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, IF I WANT TO COME UP HERE AND GET EXERCISE, I CAN WALK THIS OR I CAN WALK INTO THE WOODS.

IF I'M FEELING A LITTLE MORE ADVENTUROUS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE, YOU TAKE ALL THAT AND YOU CONNECT IT TOGETHER, BUT IT'S ALSO SEPARATE FROM EACH OTHER.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK IN THE WOODS IF YOU DON'T WANT.

SO YOU CAN JUST WALK ON THAT KIND OF OUTER PERIMETER TRAIL THAT WE HAVE AT ALL OF OUR OTHER PARKS.

AND IT JUST KIND OF HUGGED THE EDGE AND, YOU KNOW, MAP IT OUT TO A MILE OR THREE QUARTERS, A MILE, WHATEVER THAT THE SPACE ALLOWS.

BUT AGAIN, CONNECTING THAT BACK TO SOME SORT OF PLAY AREA IN THE BACK, THOSE ALL HAVE TO BE ACCESSIBLE.

SO YOU HAVE THAT ACCESSIBLE PATH THAT GOES BACK THERE FOR STROLLERS, FOR WHEELCHAIRS, FOR WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT PEOPLE CAN GET IN.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE, YOU HAVE A SMALL SHELTER HOUSE OR PLAYGROUND OF SOME SORT OVER THERE.

THAT'S WHAT I ENVISIONED HAPPENING.

AND THEN AGAIN, THAT CONNECTING THAT INTO THE WOODS WHERE YOU CAN WALK IN THERE IF YOU WANT OR NOT, IT'S UP TO YOU.

AND THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE GRAVEL, ARE YOU TALKING AROUND THE GREEN SPACE UP IN THERE? YEAH.

SO LIKE WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS UP FRONT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD CONNECT, USE THAT EXISTING SIDEWALK CONNECT TO THAT KIND OF, NOT DIRECTLY BEHIND THE HOUSES, BUT KIND OF IN THAT LITTLE LANE BEHIND THE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, KIND OF STAY ALONG THE PERIMETER WHERE ALL THAT HOME STUFF OF BRUSHES GROWN OUT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR PARKS FOR THE MOST PART, HAVE A, SOME SORT OF PERIMETER TRAIL THAT JUST HUGS THAT EDGE.

SO PEOPLE AND PROBABLY MY BEHIND HOUSE SECTION 15 5,000, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

THAT WOULDN'T BE PART OF IT.

THAT WOULD, THAT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP CLEARED FOR THE TREES FALLING DOWN, BUT JUST COMING UP.

SO YOU WOULD COME TOWARDS THAT AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT OR WHATEVER WAY YOU'RE COMING FROM.

YEAH.

IT COULD BE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY CRUSHED.

GRAVEL IS ANY CAFETERIA CRUSH, LIMESTONE, YOU PUT IT IN AT A CERTAIN DEPTH AND YOU ROLL IT AND KEEP IT AND MAINTAIN IT.

IT IS, IT IS WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE.

YES.

YEAH.

IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH, SAME LIKE THE BASE YOU PUT UNDER THE ASPHALT ROAD.

I MEAN, YOU'RE DRIVING A ROLLER OVER AND THERE'S ADDITIVES YOU CAN DO JUST LIKE WE DID AT THE BMX TRACK.

YOU COULD PUT SOIL TACK ON TOP OF IT THAT HOLDS IT TOGETHER AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ASPHALT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ASPHALT IS LESS MAINTENANCE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S OPTIONS TO MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S NOT AS HERE'S A TRAIL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GRASS, YOU KNOW, SO MORE NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING LOTS AT CARE CHILL, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT YOUR MAIN PARKING LOT IS ASPHALT, ALL YOUR OTHER PARKING, LOTS OF GRAVEL.

SO, JESSICA, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING ABOUT THE PRAYER ? WELL, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE THERE, BUT I WAS JUST GIVING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO LIKE FOR, FOR YOU ALL, YOU COULD WALK RIGHT OUT AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE TRAIL INTO THERE.

WE DID WELL WITH THE TORNADO.

IT'S ALL COVERED WITH THE TREE.

YOU CAN'T, BUT WE WOULD HAVE PLACES LIKE THAT.

SO LIKE, YOU COULD HAVE ONE AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

SO WHEREVER YOUR PLAY STRUCTURE WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE A TRAILHEAD THERE WHERE, OKAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO SIT HERE.

NO, YOU CAN GO WALK IN AND TAKE A LOOP BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ONCE YOU'RE IN YOU'RE IN, UNTIL YOU FINISH IT.

WHEN YOU DIVIDE ALL THAT STUFF UP IN THE SMALLER LOOPS, YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN TAKE THIS HALF MILE LOOP, YOU CAN TAKE THIS MILE LOOP, YOU CAN TAKE WHATEVER THERE IS OUT THERE.

THERE'S WAYS TO DIVIDE IT UP TO WHERE IT SUITS EVERYBODY.

SO PEOPLE WHO CAN ONLY DO A SHORT BIT AND YOU STILL PUT BENCHES ALONG, ALL OF IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU PLOP THEM DOWN WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF GAUGE IT OUT AND, AND THERE'S DIFFERENT GUIDELINES AND THINGS TO FOLLOW.

OKAY.

EVERY X AMOUNT OF FEET YOU SHOULD HAVE THIS, THIS AND THIS.

I MEAN, GENERALLY IT'S A TRASHCAN, A BENCH AND SOME SORT OF POINT TO STEP OFF THE TRAIL IF NEED BE.

UM, AND I HAD COMPANY OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAN COME OUT AND SURVEY THAT AND SEE WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR THAT AREA.

AS FAR AS TYPOGRAPHY, LIKE KNOWING WHAT YOUR TOPOGRAPHY IS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, JUST TO PARK PLACE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING.

YEAH.

SO THERE, I MEAN, THERE'S TRAIL BUILDING COMPANIES THAT ARE FOR BUILDING HIKING TRAILS AND TRAIL MAINTENANCE.

THEY'RE ALSO FOR BUILDING MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS.

THEY'RE ALSO FOR BUILDING URBAN TRAILS.

SO YOU GET A COMPANY LIKE THAT.

THEY'LL FOLLOW THE TOPOGRAPHY.

AND A LOT OF TIMES, THE ONLY TIME THAT THEY WILL DIG IN IS IF YOU HAVE A LOWER AREA,

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THAT'S GOING TO HOLD WATER AND THEY'LL KIND OF DIG OFF TO THE SIDE.

SO THE WATER COMES OFF THE TRAIL.

AND EVEN AFTER A RAIN, THE TRAIL ITSELF IS STILL USABLE.

THEY'LL ALMOST CREATE A, UM, A SMALL LITTLE RETENTION AREA OFF TO THE SIDE.

UM, AND, UH, A LANDSCAPE PUBLIC PARK, THE KIDS WOULD JUST STUFF.

YEAH.

I MEAN, LEE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ARE THE ONES WHO DESIGN THE STUFF AROUND PARKS.

NOW YOU'D HAVE SOME WHO WILL GO INTO THE WOODS AND DO STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT MOST OF YOUR STUFF IN THE WOODS IS GOING TO BE BY A TRAIL BUILDER.

CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW THE THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW THAT THE APOSTROPHE AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AND GO, OKAY, THIS LINE DOES THIS, BUT THIS WAY OVER HERE, YOU CAN ADD A THOUSAND FEET AND DISTURB LESS.

UM, AND TH THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF GROUPS WE'LL USE.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TRAIL BUILDING GROUPS IN THE AREA.

THE METRO PARKS, UM, USES SOME OF THEM.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHO WE WOULD USE.

YEAH.

SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING TO PICK UP THE HONEY STOCKWELL, WOULD YOU BE REMOVING THE TREES THEN THAT WENT DOWN FROM THE TORNADO, THEN THE LARGE TREES ARE UNIVERSAL BLOCKS.

UM, IF THEY'RE IN AN AREA WHERE A TRAIL WOULD GO THROUGH, WE WOULD PROBABLY JUST CUT A GAP OUT OF IT AND LEAVE IT BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FALLING, TREES ARE NOW HABITAT SNAKES, SALAMANDERS, FRAUDS, WHATEVER.

UM, AND EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO DECAY INTO THE EARTH.

SO MOST OF THOSE FALLEN TREES, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WOULD STICK OFF OF THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A BIG JAG AND LIMB STICKING.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, YOU TRIM THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I'LL PUT THE LOGS THEMSELVES, YOU CUT A HOLE LET TO WALK THROUGH AND YOU LEAVE THEM.

YEAH.

AND THEN I GET TO LOOK AT IT.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THE TORNADO HIT RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.

SO I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE LANDS.

I MEAN, ALL THE TREES NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M A FAN OF THE INVASIVE KIND OF STUFF.

CAUSE DURING THE SUMMER, I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT IS A MESS FACTOR.

WELL, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE WOULDN'T TAKE ANY OF THAT OUT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, FURTHER INTO THE WOODS AND, AND TRAIL AREAS.

YEAH.

IF IT'S IN THE WAY OF A TRAIL, YOU CUT THROUGH IT.

BUT THERE'S NOT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T COME THROUGH AND CLEAN UP TO MAKE THAT BACK STRETCH A LITTLE MORE PLEASANT.

I MEAN, WHAT WE DID, WE DID IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, UH, AND JUST BLOCK THEM AWAY.

I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN CUT ALL THOSE LOGS AND THOSE TREES BACK THERE, THEY'RE JUST PILED UP.

YOU'RE NOT NATURAL, THEY'RE CUT AND PIECES.

AND I'VE KIND OF WANT TO ADD TO THE COMMENT ABOUT TAKING THE SURVEY AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE RIGHT AROUND THAT PARK.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THERE IS NO KIDS THAT LIVE IN THE HOUSES RIGHT HERE IN THIS L-SHAPE SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RETIRED.

HOW DO I ADD MY OTHER TWO? THAT IS THE PEOPLE THAT WANT IT WHERE LIKE, YEAH.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.

UM, FROM THE PARKING PERSPECTIVE, YOU'RE THINKING THAT IT WOULD COME IN OFF OF LONGFORD, WHEREVER, AND A NICE LITTLE, UH, AND WE LOOKING AT DIAL ROAD, IF I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT.

AND AFTER THOSE PALS IS ALL ALONG FLIPS, THERE'S HOUSES ALL ALONG DIAL IN THERE.

WELL, IT'S ALREADY, THERE'S ALREADY AN OPENING.

I MEAN, A CURB CUT OUT THERE.

RIGHT.

AND THEN I, I THINK, UM, THEY DID A, MY NEIGHBORHOOD ADDED SPEED BUMPS TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN.

THERE WAS SOME MENTION OF COMING AROUND THE CURVE, MAYBE A LITTLE TOO FAST.

YOU ENDED UP WITH A PLOWED TRUCK THROUGH SOMEBODY'S FRONT DOOR.

YOU POST PEOPLE UP THERE.

WELL, I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF WHAT WAS MENTIONED WITH, UH, SOME KIND OF TRACK ON THE OUTSIDE THAT WAS MORE ASPHALT IN THEN AS YOU GET INTO THE INTERIOR PART JUST HAPPENED TO BE COME UP WITH THE MULCH TO JUST, UH, WHEN I GO DOWN TO THE WOODS WHERE WE GO WITH THAT, AND IT'S JUST IS BEAT DOWN AND YOU JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE YOUR NEXT TO THE PATH, THAT'S WHAT YOU TAKE.

SO, AND ONCE IT'S THERE AND USE IT, IT MAINTAINS FOR THE MOST PART, IT MAINTAINS ITSELF.

CUT THE TREE THAT FELL.

OR IF YOU DO HAVE AN AREA WHERE, OKAY, THIS BUSH IS OVER HERE, BUT NOW IT'S GROWING THIS WAY.

NO, TAKE YOUR LOPPERS OUT THE CLINICAL.

I THINK THAT, UH, WE SHOULD KEEP A LOT OF THE GREEN SPACE IN THE FRONT, UH, LIKE TAKE OUT MAYBE ENOUGH FOR A PARKING LOT.

UM, AND THEN I DO THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE A PLAYGROUND, UH, POTENTIALLY A SHELTER.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE EXACTLY THAT THAT WOULD GO.

I DON'T KNOW LIKE WHAT DIMENSIONS WE'RE WORKING WITH, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT PUTTING PATHS INTO THE TREES WOULD BE A BAD THING LIKE INTO THE WOODED AREA.

UM, ESPECIALLY WE TAKE OUT A LOT OF THE

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INVASIVES.

I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD, UH, PROBABLY DO BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THAN, THAN LEAVING ALL THE INVASIVES AS IS EVEN JUST A SMALLER, YOU KNOW, PATH FOR PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGH, NO DIAL TOTAL THAT WE OWN.

UM, THE, THE DIRECT PIECE THAT WE'RE CALLING DIAL PART IS 18 ACRES.

THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE WE HAVE ALL THE DEAD END ROSEMONT WOODS THAT TOUCHES IT.

THAT IS EIGHT ACRES.

UH, BUT THAT, THAT PIECE IS, IS 18.

UH, YEAH, I'LL AGREE WITH ALL THE ADJUSTING, THEIR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

I THINK THE SHELTERS, ALL THIS, WE NEED TO HAVE ONE THERE.

I THINK THE TRAILERS ARE GREEK.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THE BASKETBALL COURTS WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT 14 TO 18 YEAR OLD TEENAGERS.

TRUST ME.

I SEE THAT THE Y ALL THE TIME, I THINK BASKETBALL COURTS THERE IN THAT ERA IS DEFINITELY REQUIRED COURT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE, EVEN IF IT'S RIGHT OFF THE EDGE OF THE PARKING LOT.

CAUSE THAT'S THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE ON THE CURB, YOU COULDN'T HAVE A BASKETBALL COURT ON THE CURB THERE, IF YOU WANT IT TO.

RIGHT.

CAUSE YOU'D BE SHOOTING UP HILL OR DOWN LITTLE, EVERY SINGLE TIME I LIVE DOWN THE STREET, COME BACK TO THAT EFFECT.

WHAT YOU CALL IT ABOUT? I THINK WE HAVE A MINUTE.

VILLA HAS A SMALL LITTLE HALF COURT.

I MEAN, IT'S SMALLER THAN THIS WHOLE OPEN AREA IN THE ROOM IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE PATTERN OF WHO CAN WE KNOW WHAT THEY USE.

THEY DID THAT ACCORD.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A KID ON AT MIAMI VILLA AND YOU GET THEM OCCASIONALLY, BUT YOU GOTTA THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY ACCESSIBLE FROM 25 HOUSES, UM, BECAUSE OF THE ROAD THAT IT'S ON.

BUT YEAH, THE KIDS THAT LIVED DIRECTLY BEHIND IT USE ALL THE TIME.

YEAH, YEAH.

THERE'S ONE BOY.

EVERY TIME I GO BY THE PARK THERE HE'S OUT THERE.

HIS SIBLINGS ARE PLAYING ON A PLAYGROUND AND YOU SHOOT WITH, THEY GET USED QUITE A BIT.

WHEN THEY HAVE A BASEBALL GAMES.

I SEE A LOT OF FAMILIES, LIKE ONE KID IS PLAYING BASEBALL, THE OTHERS ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THE KIDS PLAYING ON USING THE EQUIPMENT SO FORTH.

SO IT DOES GET USED THE QUESTION OF HAVING SOME KIND OF A PROBLEM AREA, THE BASEBALL FIELD, I ASSUME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH.

MOST TIME THOUGH, YOU DON'T JUST SEE THE CHILD GOING OVER DAYS, FAMILY, OR THEY MAY BE MODELING TO EACH OTHER OR VICE VERSA, MOM WITH A KID PLAYING BASEBALL AND DEATH AT THE PLAYGROUND.

BUT YOU DO SEE A LOT OF KIDS PLAYING OVER THERE WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A BASEBALL GAME.

I MEAN, IT IS ONLY 25, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE KNOW, WE KNOW ME 25, AN HOURS.

I WAS HIGHLY PAID ATTENTION TO EXACTLY.

WHAT ABOUT KEEPING THE PLATE AREA LIKE TWIN CREEK, RIGHT? IS IT 23? POWERFUL YOU'RE OFF ALASKA.

IS THAT, WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT KEEPING AN AREA LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF KEEP IT A SMALLER STRUCTURE? YEAH.

I MEAN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, NOTHING SET ON ANY SIZE STRUCTURE.

NOT YET.

WE, THEY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ONE ADULT PLATE EITHER.

IT WAS THE SAME SITUATION.

AND THEN, UH, NOW THERE'S 10 PARKING SPACES AT DELTA.

UM, SO I MEAN, THERE'S NOT YET, AND THAT'S NOT ANY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS THAT ARE COMING IN FOR THOSE PARKING LOTS.

BUT YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M NOT PLANNING, YOU KNOW, SOME HUGE, YOU KNOW, PLACE STRUCTURE AND THERE'S LOTS OF COMPANIES NOW THAT MAKE PLAY STRUCTURES THAT THE POST WILL LOOK LIKE WOOD OR THEY'LL LOOK NATURE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST MAKING THEM BROWN OR GREEN, BUT ACTUAL TEXTURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND YEAH.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I, I HATE TO SAY THAT YOU PAY MORE FOR LESS, BUT YOU REALLY DO.

YOU KNOW, YOU PAY MORE FOR THAT ARTISTICALLY DESIGNED PLAY STRUCTURE THAT HAS A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT THAN YOUR REGULAR PARK PLAYGROUND WOULD HAVE, BUT IT IS MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

IF YOU LOOK OVER FROM YOUR HOUSE AND BLINDFOLD THAT THAT TREE IS SHINY, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF, OH, LOOK AT THAT GIANT ORANGE SLIDE, YOU KNOW, COME AT THAT, YOU KNOW, SO YES, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY THINGS WE CAN DO, UH, TO MAKE IT AESTHETIC

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WISE, MORE APPEALING OVER THERE.

I REMEMBER WHAT WAS IT? UH, DAVID, DONALD'S USED TO HAVE THE BIG TALKING TREE, SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF THE KID.

SO WOULD YOU BE KEEPING ALL OF THAT? ALL OF THAT.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE PARKING LOT.

WELL, AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON IT.

YOU KNOW, WHERE EVERYTHING WOULD GO.

I MEAN, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, YOU'D COME IN AND I FORGET THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME THAT LIVES RIGHT THERE.

LIKE SECOND HOUSE IN BOTTOM OF THE HILL, HE WAS HERE FOR A MEETING.

YOU GET TO A CERTAIN POINT OF COURSE, THEN THE WHOLE PARK DROPS OFF.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY AND KIND OF THERE'S THAT OTHER LITTLE CUTOUT BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF TALKING BACK THERE, OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO BE INVISIBLE BECAUSE THAT'S CREATES, IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU DID HAVE A FAMILY MOVE IN BY YOU THAT HAD KIDS AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO PLAY AT THE PARK, BUT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN'T SEE THEM AT ALL.

YOU KNOW, AS A PARENT, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT IT TO WHERE YOU'RE STEPPING OUT YOUR BACK DOOR ON THE PLAYGROUND EITHER.

SO IT'S KIND OF FINDING THAT PERFECT SPOT.

YOU KNOW, WHERE YES, IF YOU LOOK OUTSIDE, YOU MIGHT SEE IT, BUT YOU MAY NOT HEAR THAT WHILE THEY'RE THERE.

AND THEN LOOKING OUT FROM THE DIAL SIDE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE IT IF YOUR KIDS OR GRANDKIDS WERE PLAYING, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT RIGHT ON TOP OF YOU.

SO I THINK THAT WESTERN LEE SIDE, YOU KNOW, IS PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE FOR IT, BUT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE WAY THAT THE PHOTOGRAPHY LIES.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A PLAYGROUND MADE.

I KNOW THAT A LOT OF KIDS ARE ITCHING TO GO OUTSIDE AND IT'D BE A REALLY NICE THING FOR THEM TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THEM SPECIFICALLY TO PLAY ON.

AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE A HIKING TRAIL AS WELL.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO TOO? LIKE BOTH OF THEM, LIKE A, YOU SAID A TRAIL AROUND THE PARK.

OKAY.

LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE THAT JUST REGULAR SURFACE TRAIL.

LIKE ALL OF OUR PARKS HAVE, RIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEONE WHO JUST WANTS TO GET OUT AND GET A QUICK LAP OR TWO IN TO GET SOME EXERCISE AND DOESN'T WANT TO VENTURE INTO THE WOODS.

AND THEN YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU OPEN THE WOODS UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN SCROLL AND DO A STROLL THROUGH THERE ON A, YOU KNOW, SIX OR EIGHT FOOT WIDE KIND OF MANAGE YOUR PATH THAT GOES BACK THROUGH AND MAKES IT SO WHERE YOU HAD SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, WALKING EITHER DIRECTION OR PEOPLE WALKING DOGS.

THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT FRUSTRATES ME THE MOST IS NARROW TRAILS AND STUFF.

SO MY DOG IS AT TWO, IT GETS A LITTLE ONE-SIDED SOMETIMES, AND YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT SPACE, BUT AGAIN, IT GOES TO THAT FORMULA OF EVERY X AMOUNT OF FEET YOU'D HAVE A TRASHCAN BENCH AND A CUTOUT.

SO IT MAKES PERFECT.

THE OTHER THING, WHEN WE PUT THESE TRAMS IN AND BRINGING IN PEOPLE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS BIKES ARE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CONTROL.

THEY CONTROL 90% OF OUR TROUBLE.

THEY HAVE BIKES, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR LITTLE SIDE BY SIDE TRAIL.

THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.

YEAH.

CORRECT.

AND WE'LL BE RIDING YOUR BIKE YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, SO HERE'S WHAT I, HERE'S WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY.

AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU ALL MY OPINION ON IT.

SO, UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING A SMALL PLAYGROUND THERE, UM, SORT OF LIKE A NATURAL TYPE PLAYGROUND, UM, FOR THE TRAILS SPECIFICALLY, EVERYONE, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION FOR THE TRAILS AND WHEN I'M TALKING TRAIL AND TRAP IN THE WOODED AREA THERE, UH, SOME DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT SIMILAR TO THE CHARLESTON FALLS AREA.

SO IT WAS MORE NATURAL PRESERVE AREA.

UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, THERE WERE IDEAS ABOUT ALSO INCLUDING A WALKING PATH AROUND THE PARK, AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PARK.

THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT A PARKING LOT STILL IN THE AREA.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW THAT COULD, HOW THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT PLAN IF IT WAS TO BE INSERTED.

SO HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

AND WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE BASKETBALL COURT TO THE INCLUSION OF A POTENTIAL BASKETBALL COORDINATOR AREA.

SO MY OPINION IS, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR HAVING A PLAYGROUND IN THE AREA.

I THINK IT NEEDS SOMETHING.

UM, I WOULD LIKE A NATURAL PLAYGROUND.

AND THEN ALSO FOR THE TURF, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AT EICHELBERGER, I THINK YOU WOULDN'T DO IT EITHER, BUT SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT LOOKS NATURAL TO THE AREA.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO SOMETHING

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THERE, UM, THE WALKING TRAILS.

YES.

UM, CAUSE I THINK THAT WILL GET USED A LOT.

I'M AROUND THERE AS WELL AS THE WALKING PATH THEY'VE BEEN ALSO PUTTING IN A SHELTER, UM, SOMETHING WORKED, BAM IS, CAN GO AND JUST SIT AND TALK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'M NOT NECESSARILY MEANT FOR A HUMONGOUS, NO PARTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN JUST GO AND SIT WHILE YOUR KIDS ARE JUST WALKING AROUND THE TRAIL, PLAYING IN THE FIELD, ET CETERA.

SO, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE OUT AT TWIN CREEK.

UM, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU ALL'S PERSPECTIVE IS HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED FROM HERE? UM, I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO HAVE JOSH JUST GO AHEAD AND START JUST LOOKING AT SOMETHING? UM, I THINK I MAY HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO COUNCIL FIRST.

UM, JUST TO SAY, THESE ARE THE THINGS HERE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

UM, BUT THEN I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE JOSH TO START LOOKING AT SOME POTENTIAL.

THIS IS WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY OCCUR.

YES.

ONE THING WE HAVE NOT MENTIONED OR BROUGHT UP YET, UM, IS RESTROOM FACILITIES.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS OVER THERE.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY NOBODY WANTS THERE TO PORT A JOHN, UM, YOU KNOW, METRO PARKS HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF BUILDING CORRALS AROUND THEM, BUT THERE ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE PLACES NOW WE'RE MAKING THESE PREFAB, THE DROP, THE LITTLE BUILDING DOWN THERE JUST HAS, YOU KNOW, MEN'S AND WOMEN'S ARE TWO RESTROOMS OR WHATEVER, AND IT'LL HAVE THE PIT UNDERNEATH, BUT IT'S ALL SELF-CONTAINED.

SO THEY COME IN, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR THING AND THEY PUMP IT OUT LIKE THEY DO FOR THE JOHNS, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE OUT OF TAYLORSVILLE.

UM, DAMN IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THAT'S WHAT THEIR RESTROOMS ARE.

UM, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WITH THOSE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST COME IN AND HOSE THEM DOWN FLOOR TO CEILING AND CALL IT DONE.

SO IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, THE PARTS TO HAVE A RESTROOM? I DON'T KNOW.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

OKAY.

TWIN CREEK DOES NOT, BUT IT DOES HAVE TWO CREEKS THOUGH.

OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF WAITING FOR THE RESTROOMS TO SEE HOW MUCH THE PARK IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE USED? SURE.

YEAH.

WELL, I SAY SURE.

UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING THAT SAYS, IF YOU HAVE A, B AND C, THEN YOU HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW.

AND I CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

I, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO PARK, THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN-ENDEDNESS BECAUSE THAT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE, UH, THE SKATE PARK.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE PORTAJOHN THERE LAST YEAR.

WELL, NOW WE HAVE TWO BECAUSE IT'S GETTING A LOT OF USE.

AND EVENTUALLY THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO TURN INTO A FULL-BLOWN, YOU KNOW, WATER AND SEWER RESTROOM BUILDING, SEE HOW MUCH IT'S USED HERE.

THERE'S ALSO A DIFFERENCE THAN IF YOU'RE STANDING UP A NEW PART VERSUS JUST REVITALIZING AN EXISTING PART.

THEN THE RULES BECOME THEY'RE DIFFERENT JUST LIKE WHEN WE PUT IN THE PLAYGROUND.

SO THOSE ARE ALL.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I, YEAH, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO DROP A BIG BLUE BOX OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD BECAUSE ONE, YOU KNOW, THEY GOTTA BE ABLE TO GET TO IT, TO CLEAN IT AND DRIVING THAT BIG TRUCK CROSS.

THERE IS NO FUN EITHER, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT IT.

YEAH.

SO YOU LOOK AT YOUR USAGE AND SEE, YOU KNOW, OKAY, ARE THESE PEOPLE COMING OUT HERE FOR, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ARE THEY COMING OUT FOR 20, 30, 40 MINUTES TAKING A STROLL AND GOING HOME, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE PEOPLE COMING OUT AND ACTUALLY SPENDING A WHOLE DAY? YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT.

AND THAT'LL BE AN, A LOT OF THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPORTING BACK TO US AS WELL.

LIKE, HEY, WE'RE NOTICING, YOU KNOW, 15, 20 CARS OUT HERE ALL THE TIME.

OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S GOING TO TELL US, HEY, WE'LL GET A LITTLE MORE USAGE THAN WE WERE EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU'RE ONLY SEEING, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST WALKING UP ALL THE TIME AND THEY'RE PROBABLY CLOSE ENOUGH TO HOME THAT HE PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH IT.

OKAY.

SO THE LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS WHAT, WHAT, WHERE DO YOU ALL WANT TO GO FROM HERE? I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE A, A PLAYGROUND, UM, A SHELTER, UM, WALKING PATH, WALKING TRAIL, UM, IN THAT AREA.

AND WE KNOW IT MAY HAVE, WE MAY HAVE TO PUT A PARKING LOT IN, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE RULES ARE FOR THAT AREA.

SO WHERE DO YOU ALL WANT TO GO? I DON'T WANT TO STEER THE CONVERSATION, BUT I'LL START WITH BLAKE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE COOL TO HAVE, UH, LIKE A SCHEMATIC OR BLUE PEN, JOHN OF LIKE ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH.

UM, CAUSE IT'S HARD FOR ME TO VISUALIZE WHAT ALL THERE IS AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO MAKE DECISIONS.

YEAH.

ALEX.

YEAH.

I THINK IT'S EASY, YOU KNOW, TO CRITICIZE SOMEBODY

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ELSE'S WORD RATHER THAN TO DO IT YOURSELF.

SO I THINK IF JOSH COTTON BAG WITH HIS RECOMMENDATION, IT'D BE EASY TO LOOK AT IT AND THEN DECIDE WHAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED VERSUS US ALL STANDARD.

AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DESIGN IT.

SO I THINK THE BEST WAY TO STOP WILL WE'D HAVE HIM COME BACK WITH THE LAYOUT FOR US TO LOOK AT AND THEN WE CAN TALK TO THEM TO GO FROM THERE.

OKAY.

CHRIS, I'M LIKE TO SEE JOSH, YOU BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF BRINGING IN FRESH.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT OUR POTENTIAL IS THERE WITH WITHOUT BLAME SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PLAYING.

I AGREE WITH ALEX.

SO JOSH, COULD YOU PUT A SCHEMATIC TOGETHER WITH THOSE IDEAS IN MIND TO SHOW US WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN THERE? WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THE ACTUAL, BUT JUST POTENTIALLY.

UM, AND THEN NANCY, COULD I BRING, SHOULD I BE WAITING UNTIL HE BRINGS THAT BACK BEFORE I COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY, THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS? WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH OF AN EFFORT YOU WANT JOSH TO PUT INTO IT.

IF HE'S GOING TO SEEK OUT A PROFESSIONAL, YOU'D PROBABLY NEED TO GET THE BUY IN.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT EVEN TRUE BECAUSE BRIAN WELL FOR THE DESIGN OF A SHELTER, THE PLAYGROUND, STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, THERE, THERE'S NOT A CHARGE FOR THAT AND UNLESS SOMEBODY IS COMING ON SITE, I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHY.

THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE WAITING LINES AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A PIN AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRAW ON THEIR COMPUTER SCREEN AND MAKE A TRAIL, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I CALL ONE OF MY PLAYGROUND VENDORS AND GO, HEY, HERE'S THE SITE WE'RE LOOKING AT? WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR HERE? WHERE DO YOU RECOMMEND THIS? UH, SAME THING WITH, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE OPTIONS OF THE PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IF WE CAN DO THE PATH IN GRAVEL, MAYBE WE CAN DO THE PARKING LOT AND GRAVEL AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S JUST KIND OF, THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THERE.

SO RIGHT.

I THINK THERE PROBABLY HAS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL AGREE TO AND THEN PICK THE NEIGHBOR, BRING IT TO CANCEL, OR YOU CAN BRING IT TO COUNCIL AND KIND OF GET THAT BUY-IN BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S NO BUDGET FOR IT RIGHT NOW.

AND, AND SO THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING WE NEED FROM HERE, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PRIORITIZED WITH ALL YOUR OTHER THINGS TO, TO GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION ON MAYBE YOUR TOP FIVE, WHEREVER THEY ARE ON YOUR PRIORITY LIST.

BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO BUDGET FOR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, LET'S SEE WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.

YOU KNOW, ALEX SAID HE HAD A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO IF YOU GUYS COULD COME TO US AND DO THAT, BUT THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND THEN THIS IS A KIND OF A MASTER PLAN ON THE COMMUNITY WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO GO IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD TONIGHT THAT I'M GOING TO ADD TO MY LIST THAT I'M PROVIDING TO THE VENDORS IS, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE LOOK AT SMART PARKS.

UM, I LOOKED AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE, BUT I HAD FORGOTTEN THE PARKS.

UM, I INVITE YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT WHERE YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY, THE, THE, THE PARKS AND REC TO BE IN 10 YEARS.

AND THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY INPUT.

BUT WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH HASN'T BEEN YET, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

YOU CAN COME IN JUST LIKE TODAY AND YOU CAN LISTEN, BUT THERE WILL BE TIMES WHEN YOU CAN GIVE YOUR COMMUNITY INPUT OR AT ANY TIME YOU CAN GIVE IT TO, UH, ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION AND WE CAN GET IT INTEGRATED INTO WHAT THE VENDORS ARE DOING, BUT PLEASE, PLEASE, WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEED YOUR INPUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL GET TO THE END, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER.

PERFECT.

SO WHERE DOES THE FUNDING COME FROM? WHO'S GOING FIND IT CAUSE I KNOW THE BASKETBALL COURT.

SO IF YOU GUYS, WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN GRANT MONEY FOR PARKS, UH, FOR SOME, FOR ANSWER SPECIFICALLY FOR TAKING A SPACE LIKE DIAL AND REJUVENATING, IT THERE'S SPECIFIC MONEY FOR CREATING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTABILITY WITH WALKING TRACKS.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, STUFF FOR

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BILLING PLAYGROUND STRUCTURES ITSELF.

UM, SO EVERY YEAR I GO THROUGH ALL THE BRANDS AND I LOOK AT PROJECTS, OKAY, THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THIS, JUST LIKE WITH COMMUNITY MARK, WE WERE READY TO JUST THROW THAT FLICKER ON IT AND BE DONE WITH IT.

WELL THEN THE CRISPR REESE FOUNDATION GRANT POPPED UP THAT THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE SWINGS QUALIFY FOR.

OKAY, WELL LET'S SLOW THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT WHILE WE WAIT FOR THIS, HERE'S THE POTENTIAL TO GET $30,000 TO COVER MOST OF THE COST OF IT.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY MY BUDGET WORKS IS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY UP FRONT TO PAY FOR IT, BUT I CAN CONSTANTLY APPLYING FOR GRANTS THAT JUST COME BACK IN AND REIMBURSES FOR MOST OF IT.

UM, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THINGS I FOLLOWED UP WELL, AND SOME OF THAT WAS JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY PRIORITIZING THIS STUFF IN THE BOARD WAS PUTTING IT OUT THERE AND THEN IT WAS NO, JUST ONE ROUND.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M PLAYING 15 YEARS TO CATCH UP ON WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, ADDING NEW STUFF.

THAT'S ON TOP OF THAT.

SO, BUT YEAH, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S FUNDINGS FOR ALL SORTS OF APARTMENT ENTITIES.

UM, SO YEAH, I JUST GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT WHAT I'M FIGURING OUT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THE NEXT STEP FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS JOSH, CAN YOU GO WORK WITH YOUR PARKS FOLKS AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN SORT OF DESIGN THAT WOULD LOOK DECENT IN THE AREA, NATURAL SCAPE, ALL THAT FUN STUFF, BRING IT BACK TO US AND WE'LL DISCUSS VOTE, TAKE IT TO COUNCIL AND GO FROM THERE.

SO WHEN DO YOU PLAN ON PRESENTING THIS TO COUNCIL? I DON'T KNOW.

I WAS GOING TO TALK TO BRIAN AND SEE IF IT WAS EVEN REALLY NECESSARY.

I MEAN, JUST KIND OF EMAIL IT TO LET THEM GO THROUGH IT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

I THINK IF, IF THIS WAS MORE A TOOL FOR THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE A TOOL FOR YOU ALL TO FEEL THE TEMPERATURE.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE TAKING WHAT WE SEE HERE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THE BOYS TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF OFF OF THE PLATE.

OKAY, PERFECT.

AND WHEN HE, WHEN HE PRESENTS YOUR APPROVED DESIGN TO COUNCIL, HE CAN SUMMARIZE THIS IF HE WANTS TO, OR HAVE IT AVAILABLE IF SOMEONE ASKS FOR IT.

BUT YEAH.

PERFECT.

AND BEFORE WE GET OFF OF THIS SUBJECT, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW IS WHEN WE DO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE GREEN SPACE.

SO THINK ABOUT THE GREEN SPACES IN THE AREA, IN THE CITY THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE DESIGNATED TO STAY THAT WAY.

BECAUSE AS WE HEAD INTO THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, WE'RE NOT PUTTING A LOT OF TREES AND STUFF AND THAT'S DISTURBING TO ME A LITTLE BIT.

WELL, UNFORTUNATELY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARK SPACE AND GREEN SPACE YEAH.

IT'S, WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER.

WE'RE NEVER GETTING THE PRIMARY REAL ESTATE TO PUT IT IN A BARKER.

AND I THINK IT'S SURE.

SURE.

AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT GOES INTO THE PARK DESIGN IT'S HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS PIECE WE CAN'T USE ONCE YOU TURN IT INTO A GREEN SPACE.

AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, AND IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THAT'S GOOD.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU DON'T USE IT.

WELL, PIECE OF LAND LET'S THROW STUFF IN IT.

BUT SOMETIMES EVEN THE GREEN SPACES THAT ARE LEFT, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING, BUT JUST LET THE, NOT LIKE THE INVASIVE WILD STUFF OR YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT STUFF OUT OF THAT.

AND THAT TOO WAS BECAUSE FOREIGN CHANGES FOR WHERE THEY'RE DEVELOPING AND BUILDING ALL THIS, ALL THAT SPACE.

THAT'S GREEN SPACE IN THERE.

WE'RE LOSING THEM.

YEAH.

BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO CREATE MORE ORDINANCES THAT SAY WHEN THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE DONE, THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GREEN TREES ANYWAY, ANYTHING HERE TO RESTORE THE AREA.

UH, BUT I LOOK IN COMMUNITY PARK THAT LAYING BEHIND COMMUNITY PARK IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL AND, AND COMMUNITY CENTER.

YEAH.

AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT DESTROYED.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT MEAN, YOU LOOKED AT SEVERAL AREAS AROUND THE CITY.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE IDEA BEHIND THE POLLINATOR AND THE PRAIRIE PASTURE AREAS, BECAUSE WHY SPIN 20, $30,000 A YEAR TO MOW THESE SPACES WHEN YOU CAN PLANT A NATURAL HABITAT THERE AND MOLD ONCE A YEAR, JUST TO KNOCK IT BACK, YOU KNOW? SO THE FRESHMEN COME UP.

UM, SO YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE HER A LOT MORE SPACE FOR THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE DIAL IS, OH, YOU WANT, I GUESS BOTH THREE TIMES A YEAR, ANYBODY, I KNOW THEY GO BEHIND THE HOUSES, THEY DO THAT PATH.

THERE'S SOMEBODY .

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OKAY.

SO, UM, SO WE'VE GOT A PLAN FOR THAT.

SO, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, COMMUNITY CENTER DISCUSSION.

SO JOSH, I ADDED THIS ONTO THE LIST.

SO NOW THAT WE'VE GOT PART ONE DONE, RIGHT, WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL.

SO WHEN WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO HAVE A TOWN HALL AND I'M LOOKING AT, DOWN AT, UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN THAT AREA, WHEN WILL BE A DECENT TIME TO HAVE THAT MEETING? WELL, I WOULD SAY I SAT IN, ON THE MEETING WITH THE, UM, THE CONTRACTORS OR VENDORS, WHOEVER THEY ARE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE OTHER DAY.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT STUFF'S ALREADY GOING TO BE HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO TO NOT CREATE REDUNDANCY, MAYBE WE GET WITH THEM AND GO, HEY, SINCE YOU'RE HERE, WHAT SHOULD, YOU KNOW? AND I CAN CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HATE FOR US TO BE SITTING HERE DOING THE SAME THING WHEN THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE YOU'RE DOING.

OKAY.

UM, SO LET ME CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE, UH, THEIR THOUGHTS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GET SOMETHING OUT AT LEAST TO THAT IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREA LIKE WE DID WITH THE AISLE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS A COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT AGAIN, WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY AROUND IT THAT ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT THE MOST.

RIGHT.

UM, SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE, WELL, I SAT WITH HIM THE OTHER DAY AND THEY SAID WE CAN NARROW THAT DOWN, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE WANT WITH SOME OF THAT STUFF.

BUT AGAIN, I WOULD, AGAIN, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE SETTING UP PLACE THE TAPE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE HERE? AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING.

AND IF I SAID, I'LL SPEAK WITH THEM AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN RECREATE THE SURVEY, WE CAN GO PASS OUT THE CARDS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO PASS IT OUT, BUT NOW I KNOW THAT.

YEAH.

BUT WE ADDRESS BETTER.

ALRIGHT.

COOL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT, BUT CAN YOU TELL US REAL QUICK, WHAT IS CURRENTLY GOING ON AT, UM, COMMUNITY PART AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER? YES.

WHY? WELL, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN RIGHT NOW, BUT SOME COUNCIL HAVE BROUGHT UP, I THINK THERE WAS FIVE THINGS, YOU KNOW, PAINT, A SIGN, UM, MORE TABLES AND CHAIRS PARKING, AND MAYBE THERE WAS ONE MORE KITCHEN.

YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THE KITCHEN I APPLIED FOR A LOWE'S COMMUNITY GRANT.

I I'D ALREADY GOTTEN A QUOTE TO DO IT.

UM, SO I GOT ANOTHER QUOTE TO DO IT, AND I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE LOWS OF COMMUNITY GRANT, IF THAT GOES FORWARD THE KITCHEN THREE TIMES.

SO THAT'S ALL THIS, UH, AS FAR AS PARKING GOES, WE HAVE TWO EVENTS A YEAR, AMY, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING.

UM, SO ALL THOSE BOULDERS COMING IN THE DRIVE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, WE'VE DISCUSSED KICKING THOSE BOULDERS IN, YOU KNOW, 25 FEET OR SO.

AND THAT'S ABOUT THE EDGE OF WHERE IT ALWAYS SAYS WET.

UH, SO WE KICKED THOSE IN THERE.

WE CAN LEAVE IT AS GRASS SO PEOPLE CAN OVERFLOW OR WE CONVERT IT TO GRAVEL OR SOMETHING.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A SPIN, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO EXCAVATE AND EXTENDED PAYMENT, ALL THAT FOR SOMETHING YOU MAY ONLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TWICE A YEAR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT CREATING, CREATING OPTIONS, WE GET TO WORK.

SO WE DO HAVE, UM, AS YOU LOOP AROUND THE PARKING LOT, THERE IS ANOTHER LITTLE PIECE BEFORE THE RAVINE THAT YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING.

YOU COULD HAVE IT OPEN UP FOR OVERFLOW, BUT YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DELINEATE.

LIKE, DON'T GO PAST HERE.

UM, CAN'T DO ANYTHING OUT BACK BECAUSE IT SAYS WET BACK THERE AS WELL.

UM, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TERRAFORM AND DONE TO KIND OF MOVE WATER AWAY FROM THAT AREA AS WELL.

AND THEN AGAIN, SEEING WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PUT A PLAYGROUND AND OUT THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

YOU CAN'T GO BEHIND THE BUILDING.

YOU CAN SEE IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE LEFT SIDE, UM, IN THAT KIND OF SPACE BETWEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT, THERE NEEDS TO PUMP IN TO PLANT SOME MORE TREES.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY WE'LL EXPAND THE GARDENS.

UM, EARLY ON, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING SOME COMMUNITY, NOT COOKING CLASSES, BUT LIKE COME IN ADVERTS, COME IN, EVEN HAVE THE KIDS COME IN AND HEY, WE'RE GOING TO MEAL PREP.

YOU KNOW, HERE'S YOUR RECIPE, HERE'S YOUR FRESH PRODUCT.

YOU'RE GOING TO CHOP IT UP.

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YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT HOME.

YOU COOK THIS NEWLY PARENTS, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU ONLY HAVE TO EITHER BUY ABC LITTLE THINGS OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT ALL THERE AND THEY CAN JUST GRAB IT AND GO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET SOME MORE CLASSES IN THERE.

WE HAVE THE LADY DOING THE PAINTING CLASSES THREE TIMES A MONTH.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A CAMP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AFTER NEXT SUMMER.

UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE THE ENTIRE MONTH OF JUNE.

UM, THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE DETAILS HASHED OUT FOR THAT YET.

UM, AND I DO HAVE ANOTHER PARTY INTERESTED IN POSSIBLY COMING IN THIS SUMMER AND RUNNING A CAMP OF SOME SORTS, BUT, UM, SHE HASN'T REALLY COME BACK OVER THE DEFINITIVE PLAN KIND OF RUN OUT OF TIME FOR THAT.

OKAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COMMENT WITH ME, HOW CAN YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT DOESN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, CLASSES OR SOMETHING ADDED? AND I FULLY AGREE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A MILLION DOLLAR PLAN FOR THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S, IT BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO VOLUNTEERS OR STAFF THAT ARE THERE.

SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN, DURING THE DAY, CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT BECAME THE OPEN DURING THE DAY BECAUSE I GOT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BE THERE AND HERE AND THERE AND OVER THERE AND ALL THAT.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO MOST.

UH, SO THE EXTENSION OF EXTENSION.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOSH ON THAT TOPIC? OKAY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY.

UH, SO HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM TWO MONTHS AGO? HE'S GOT IT ON FENDER COURT FOR THE BASKETBALL COURT.

THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 60,000.

YEAH.

SORRY.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT WAS JUST FOR THE PAVING.

RIGHT.

JOSH, ONE QUARTER YOU GOT JUST THAT 60 WITHOUT THE THREE ZEROS SINCE TAKING ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS.

OKAY.

SO, UM, WITH THAT ONE ADJUSTMENTS, THE MEETING MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

OKAY.

WELL, I'M SORRY.

THAT WAS FEBRUARY 17TH MEETING OUR, YEAH.

OKAY.

OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON MAY 19TH AT 6:30 PM.

AND IT IS EIGHT 12.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.