Apr 05, 2022 Council Work Session

LIKE YOU ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? OKAY.

THIS LEGISLATION, UH, WILL AUTHORIZE THE AWARD AND ENTER A CONTRACT WITH INSIGHT PIPE CONTRACTING FOR THE LINING OF EXISTING SEWERS.

UH, SANITARY SLIP LINING, UH, WILL BE INSTALLED IN DIFFERENT SPANS OF THE OLD CLAY SANITARY SEWER IN THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN TELEVISED BY THE TRI-CITIES AUTHORITY, UH, CAMERA CREW.

AND THESE PIPES WERE RATED THE WORST AS FAR AS CRACKS MISALIGN JOINTS AND PARTIAL PARTIALLY COLLAPSED PIPE.

UH, WE WILL BE, WE PLAY OUR RELINING, UH, 7,200 LINEAR FEET OF PIPE.

UH, IN THIS PROCESS OF LINING HAS BEEN USED.

UH, THIS IS THE FIFTH TIME WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST.

AND, UH, UH, IT HAS WORKED WELL TO PREFER, TO PROVE ALONG THE LIFE OF THE SEWER.

UH, THE BID OPENINGS FOR THIS PROJECT WERE ON MARCH 25TH.

UH, THERE WERE FOUR CONTRACTORS THAT SUBMITTED BIDS AND A BIT OF RESULTS, UH, ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

UH, INSIDE PIPE CONTRACTING WAS THE LOWEST AND BEST WITH A BID AMOUNT OF $280,324 AND 120 CALENDAR DAYS TO COMPLETE THE WORK.

UH, OUR NOT TO EXCEED ON THIS LEGISLATION IS $300,000.

UH, INSIGHT PIPE CONTRACTING HAS NOT PERFORMED ANY LIGHTING PROJECTS IN HUBER HEIGHTS, BUT HAS WORKED IN TIP CITY IN THE PAST.

AND THEY DID GET A GOOD REFERENCE FROM THEM.

SO, UH, WE GOT, I CALLED THEM AND GOT A GOOD REFERENCE.

UM, THIS PROJECT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE SEWER CAPITAL, UH, FUND, AND, UH, WE WOULD, THIS WILL BE ON MONDAY NIGHTS MEETING AND WE'D LIKE TO

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ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO MONDAY? ALL RIGHT, NEXT

[ 2022 Water Main Replacement Program - Solicit Bids]

UP IS ITEM THREE C, WHICH IS A 2022 WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND SOLICITING THOSE BIDS ACROSS.

THIS LEGISLATION WILL ALLOW US TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING WATER MAINS ON PORTIONS OF SEVEN DIFFERENT STREETS WITHIN THE MIDDLE TO SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CITY.

UM, A STREET MAP IS ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS THE AREAS OF CITY THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS REPLACEMENT.

UH, THE STREETS THAT WE WERE REPLACING, THE WATER MAINS INCLUDE PORTIONS OF HUBBARD, HINKLEY, HOLBROOK HELWIG, ALTER CROOKSTON, AND TOMBERG, UH, THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED MANY WATER MAIN BREAKS, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, UH, WOULD BE USING WATER CAPITAL FUND FOR THIS PROJECT WITH A, TO EXCEED AT $1.5 MILLION.

AND THIS ITEM WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A FINAL AWARD AFTER THE BIDDING IS COMPLETE.

THANKS ROSS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS WATER, MAIN REPLACEMENT, ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE MONDAY? YES.

I MEAN, I STARTED RAPPING ABOUT BACK ARE THESE REALLY THE SEVEN MOST BREAK AREAS? BECAUSE I WAS SEEING SOME, I HAVE THREE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND IT'S NOT ON THERE.

NOT THAT I WANT MINE MOVED UP, BUT THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT HAD WHAT I SAW LESS THAN THAT.

AND SO I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE SEVEN MOST NEEDED AREAS.

I LIKE TO SAY, I THINK WE ARE.

AND, UM, WE DO HAVE THE NEXT SET LAID OUT FOR NEXT YEAR OR WHENEVER WE WANT TO DO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO BE PRETTY SOON.

UH, AND I COULD SEND YOU THAT MAP.

IT'LL PROBABLY HAVE THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY REFERRING TO.

THAT'S THE NEXT PART.

I WAS HITTING THE BIGGEST AREAS WITH THE, WE HAD TALKED ORIGINALLY ABOUT DOING $4 MILLION WORTH, AND I THINK WE'LL HOPEFULLY DO SOME OF THAT NEXT YEAR AND, BUT WE'RE ALREADY SETTING THAT UP.

UM, SO I THINK WE'LL BE GETTING ALL THOSE AREAS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY THINKING ABOUT, UH, WITH THAT NEXT PROGRAM.

BUT THESE, I FELT WERE THE MOST, THE BIGGEST AREAS, THE QUESTIONS, ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING THIS ONTO MONDAY.

NEXT UP IS I AM THREE D, WHICH IS ZONING CASE 21 DASH 45, 4 KERMAN.

[ ZC 21-45 - Kirmon Khalilov - Major Change - Basic and Detailed Development Plan - 5480 Old Troy Pike]

KOLOFF AT THE MAJOR CHANGE AND A BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AT 54 80 OLD DETROIT.

UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE LOWER SIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE SCREEN, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, WHAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE OR VISUALIZE ON THE SITE, UH, FOLLOWING DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT THIS PLAN NOT BE APPROVED, UH, BY A COUNCIL BY A ONE TO THREE MARGIN.

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS CASE WAS RECENTLY BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY.

UH, AARON CRL, OUR PLANNER WILL BE HERE TO PROVIDE, UH, COUNSEL IN THE COMMUNITY WITH A FORMAL PRESENTATION DURING THAT TIME.

UH, SO THIS WILL JUST BE A SUMMARY OF COMMENTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY MADE BY HIM, UH, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THIS CASE WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED BACK ON MARCH 15TH.

SO THE SITE IN QUESTION FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR IS, UH, LOCATED ON OLD TROY PIKE.

IT IS THE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, PARCEL HERE IN YELLOW.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT RELATES TO, UH, THE PROPERTIES AROUND, UH, IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CONTEXT, DEPENDING UPON THE PARTICULAR USE.

THE SITE ITSELF IS A TWO AND A HALF ACRES AND WAS FORMERLY OCCUPIED, UH, AS AN AUTO DETAILING BUSINESS.

I THINK, UH, THIS GOOGLE EARTH IMAGE HERE SHOULD PROBABLY, UH, DIAL IN EVERYBODY'S MEMORY OR, UH, CONCEPT OF THIS PARTICULAR SITES LOCATION.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAD MADE, UH, PREVIOUS SUBMITTALS TO THE CITY REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

UH, AND FOLLOWING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY, UH, HAD, UH, PULLED THE, UH, FURTHER MOVEMENT ON THIS PROJECT BACK UNTIL RECENTLY, UH, WHEN THEY RESUBMITTED THEIR PLAN, UM, IDENTIFYING, UH, SOME CHANGES IN THE PARKING LAYOUT, UH, THEY HAD REMOVED THE POLE SIGN THAT WAS ON THE LADDER THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE LOT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE IT, UH, AND THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSING AN ENCROACHMENT INTO, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIRED YARD AREAS, UH, TO GIVE YOU A VISUALIZATION OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS, UH, SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL LOOKS LIKE.

UM, THE USE WAS FOR, UH, AUTOMOTIVE, UH, SALES AND SERVICE FACILITY, WHICH IS PERMITTED WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.

UH, THIS IS THE INITIAL PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UH, EARLIER ON THAT WAS REVIEWED AND EVALUATED BY STAFF, UH, BACK IN DECEMBER.

UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, I CALL YOUR ATTENTION UPFRONT HERE TO WHAT WOULD BE THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

UH, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THE CHANGE, UH, AS WE SCROLL INTO THE REVISED PLAN, UH, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE PLAN CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THEY MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS UPFRONT, UH, TO INCLUDE MOVEMENT AND TRAFFIC.

UH, THEY'VE ALSO MADE SOME, UH, SCREENING IMPROVEMENTS DOWN HERE ON,

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SO ONE MEMBER VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE PLAN.

UH, ONE MEMBER VOTED OUR, EXCUSE ME, THREE MEMBERS VOTED, UH, IN OPPOSITION TO THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD, UH, AND LARGELY THAT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, THIS ENCROACHMENT AREA, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, INTO THE REQUIRED YARD SPACE.

UH, THAT IS THE CASE IN SUMMARY.

UH, AGAIN, MR. CRL WILL PRESENT A MORE DETAILED, UM, A MORE DETAILED SUMMARY OF THE PACKAGE, UH, DURING THE PLANNING, UH, VARIOUS MEET DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, THERE ARE MEMBERS, UM, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT IN CASE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, UH, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE ADDRESSED, UM, IN ADVANCE OF, UH, MONDAY'S MEETING.

I TOO, AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT I CAN WITH RESPECT TO THIS ISSUE.

SO THAT ENCROACHMENT INTO THAT.

SO THIS IS WHAT THAT WOULD BE A MARKER AND HELLER.

THINK BACK TO, UM, THERE WAS JUST TALK ABOUT THIS TODAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO, SO IS THERE, UM, IS THAT JUST THE ONLY WAY THAT CAN BE, I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO KEEP THAT AT AT 15 FEET, IF THAT WAS THE MAIN CONCERN, WAS THAT DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT? ARE THEY, ARE THEY WILLING TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS OR CHANGES THERE? UM, I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT.

I KNOW THAT THAT WAS TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

THIS IS A, UM, THIS IS NOT AN OBLIGATE TORI, UM, ENCROACHMENT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS FACILITATING THIS OTHER THAN THE APPLICANT'S CHOICE.

UH, BUT, UH, AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT, UM, AND ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO OFFER, I GUESS I'LL JUST ASK, ARE YOU, ARE YOU FLEXIBLE? I MEAN, ON THAT, I MEAN THAT IF, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THE DECISION RECORD AND LOOK, I MEAN, IF THERE'S, UH, A BIG SORE THUMB THAT STICKS OUT AND THAT'S IT, I MEAN, IS THERE, UH, ARE YOU WILLING TO DO WHAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO HELP ALLEVIATE WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT ISSUE IS? I MEAN, I THINK FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE BUSINESS, IT'S, IT'S ZONED PROPERLY THERE.

CORRECT.

AND IT FITS THAT USE.

I THINK WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S, UM, IT'S ON THE SOUTHERN END OF TOWN WHERE WE HAVE ALL TALKED ABOUT NEW BUSINESSES AND, AND GROWTH AND EXPANSION, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, CAR SALES OR WHATEVER MIGHT NOT BE EVERYONE'S CUP OF TEA, BUT NEITHER IS, UM, CHICKEN RESTAURANTS AND STORAGE FACILITIES AND, UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

HE WANTS TO OPEN A BUSINESS HERE AND, UH, AND OPERATED HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK, UH, THAT PARTICULAR SITE I'VE, I'VE BEEN BY THERE MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS.

AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, A LOCATION THAT STILL DEALS WITH WORKING ON AND SERVICING CARS, WHETHER IT BE WASHING THEM DETAILING DOWN OR WHATEVER.

SO I THINK THE ISSUE IS JUST A MATTER OF WHEN THE CARS ARE PARKED THERE ON SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME, I GUESS, BUT, UM, IN GENERAL, IF PLANNING COMMISSIONS A BIG CONCERN WAS THE ENCROACHMENT INTO THAT NEIGHBORING YARD.

IF THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE BY THE, UM, BY THE APPLICANT TO MAKE IT CONFORM MORE, TO JUST, UH, KEEPING OUT 15 FOOT, UH, REQUIREMENT.

UM, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A MAJOR ISSUE HERE AND I WELCOME MORE, MORE BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR CITY.

OH, THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS, NANCY.

UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE AND IT SAYS THEY USE THE SHALL BE LIMITED TO AUTOMOBILE SALES AND MINOR SERVICE OF, FOR SALE VEHICLES ONLY.

SO THAT SAYS TO ME THAT IT'S NOT A GENERAL MAINTENANCE FACILITATE, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE, UM, ENFORCE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE DESIGNATE, WHETHER IT'S LIMITED OR, OR A GENERAL.

AND, UM, I'M WONDERING IF THEY'RE GOING TO SELL CARS.

UM, ARE THEY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MIX ABUSED, NEW WHATEVER ELSE, IF THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF CARS PARKED THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME OR, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT TURNS INTO A, A MAINTENANCE GARAGE BASICALLY.

WELL, I THINK SO THE MEETING THAT I ATTENDED, I BELIEVE WHEN, WHEN I THINK IT WAS THE SON OF THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY HAD SPOKE, THESE ARE MY INTERPRETATION WAS THEY WERE GOING TO BE, UM, USED CARS, BUT NEWER USED PROBABLY MORE, UH, IMPORTED IMPORTED CARS, BUT CERTAINLY ON A NICER SCALE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I

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I THINK BACK ON WAFFLE HOUSE, THERE USED TO BE A CAR SITTING ON TOP OF THE SIGN OFF OF 70 AND HEBREW HEIGHTS FOR MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.

THIS WAS CERTAINLY AN UPGRADE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CARS.

THE, UM, I THINK THERE'S A, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE LAW, BUT THERE'S A LOT RIGHT THERE OFF OF OH 2 0 1 IN 70.

UM, BUT IT SEEMS TO DO A REALLY, REALLY GOOD BUSINESS AND I SEE LOTS OF TURNOVER IN THE VEHICLES ARE THERE, YOU NEVER GO BY AND JUST SEE KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE SAME ONES THAT ARE THERE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, I'D WELCOME TO BUSINESS ON THE, ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE CITY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, RICHARD, THANK YOU.

MA'AM UM, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS WITH THE, UH, WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

UM, EVEN THOUGH THE APPLICANT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, VERBALLY PROVIDING COUNCIL DIRECTION THAT THEY ARE GOING TO, UH, AMEND THOSE PLANS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE, UM, EITHER IN WRITING OR AS A DESIGN CHANGE PRIOR TO COUNCIL'S VOTE.

THAT MEANS, YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

I HAVE A FEW ISSUES, UH, WITH THE PLAN AS PRESENTED, AND I WILL GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH I DID ATTEND.

AND DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THE ENCOURAGEMENT TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WASN'T THE ONLY ISSUE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HALF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE LAYOUT YOU SEE HERE BASICALLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE ISLAND AND THE TWO TO FOUR SPACES.

UM, THANK YOU.

THE TWO TO FOUR SPACES THERE, A ROOM IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE DOORS, UH, ENTERING INTO THE BUILDING, THE TURNING RADIUS, AND WHAT HAVE YOU FURTHER, THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT THE EXPANSION OF THE PARKING LOT, WHERE ALL OF THOSE CARS ARE, THAT'S CURRENTLY GREEN SPACE OUT THERE, WHICH MIRRORS THE GREEN SPACE.

THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE FUNERAL, HOME TO THE NORTH AND THE OLD CARWASH PROPERTY WHERE THE DETENTION BASIN IS TO THE SOUTH.

SO THIS WILL BE A, A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE LOOK OF THAT AREA ON ALL TROY PIKE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS NOT TO SPEAK FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE LOOK OF THIS FROM THE STREET IS GOING TO PUT A LINE OF CARS OUT WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY GREEN SPACE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SHOVED OUT BETWEEN THE FUNERAL HOME AND THE POND ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROW OF CARS THERE.

THAT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN OF PLANNING COMMISSION.

AT LEAST THAT'S A SENSE I GOT FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AS A FORMER PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN THE SATURN DEALERSHIP WAS APPROVED FOR, UM, I SHOULD KNOW I LIVED THERE SHAWL ROAD, OLD TROY PIKE, UH, NOW KIA, BUT PREVIOUSLY SAT, OR I WAS SITTING ON PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.

AND WE HAD A REAL HEAVY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO HAVE A ROW OF CARS LINED UP AGAINST OLD TROY PIKE, THEIR TYPICAL CARLA FASHION, NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN YOU WOULD SEE IF YOU GO DOWN ON LOOP ROAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE DEALERSHIPS THERE AND WHAT SATURN AND THE CITY WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT IS WHAT YOU SEE AT THE KIA DEALERSHIP NOW.

AND THAT IS THE CARS ARE BACK OFF OF THE STREET.

THE PARKING LOTS ARE STAGGERED AND ON ANGLES, IT'S VISUALLY APPEALING AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ROW OF USED CARS ALONG MAIN THOROUGHFARE.

SO I NOTICED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION RECORD, THEY ASKED FOR, UM, REASONS WHY THEY WERE VOTING, NOT IN FAVOR AND THE SINGLE BIGGEST ONE, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOTED IS THAT IT DIDN'T FIT THE CHARACTER.

AND I BELIEVE THAT NOT FITTING THE CHARACTER MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THAT GREEN SPACE.

WE HAVE OUT THERE IN FRONT, ON OLD TRIPOD, AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT A LINE OF CARS OUT THERE.

AND HONESTLY, THIS IS A VERY JAMMED UP PARKING LOT OUT THERE ON THE FRONT.

SO BEFORE I COULD VOTE FOR THIS, I WOULD NEED TO SEE SOME CLARIFICATION WITH REGARD TO THE LAYOUT AS MR. SHAW STATED.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

THANKS, TOM.

OR IF THIS IS JUST KIND OF, IT'S GOTTA BE THIS OR IT'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THAT IS OR WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR, UM, YEAH, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, AND, AND I DON'T REMEMBER HEARING THIS AT THE PLANNING MEETING, UM, THAT THIS, THE PROPOSED PLAN REDUCES THE EXISTING REQUIRED YARD BUFFER FROM 15 FEET, WHICH IS REQUIRED IN THE PC DISTRICT TO APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET.

AND AGAIN, I THINK I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY BY THE, BY THE APPLICANT AND, AND WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THE LAYOUT WOULD BE,

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AND YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, THAT'S HOW WE WERE, THAT'S THE, THE ENCROACHMENT THAT WE RIGHT.

AND SO I, I JUST, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE A REASON TO DO THAT.

I THINK INITIALLY THAT'S WHERE, AND HE DID SAY THE OTHER THING HAD FLEXIBILITY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. SHAW WAS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS SEEING A REVISED PLAN.

AND, UM, MR. WEBB CERTAINLY HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE OVERALL LAYOUT.

SO, UM, I THINK IT'S JUST AS A, IS THERE A MATTER OF, OF ROOM TO DO, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT MANY CARS HAVE TO GO ON A LOT AT A SINGLE TIME OR, YOU KNOW, CAN THE BUSINESS STILL FUNCTION AND OPERATE WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MUCH MORE APPEALING TO THE EYE AESTHETICALLY ON ULTRA PIKE? OKAY.

UM, I ALSO ATTENDED, AND I VIEWED THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME CONCERN, OH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SELL CARS WHILE WE MIGHT WORK ON SOMETHING, OR WE MIGHT BRING OTHER CARS IN.

IT WAS A DIFFERENT USES THAT THE GENTLEMAN WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT HIS USES.

EXACTLY.

SO THAT WAS A PROBLEM WITH A PLANNING COMMISSION THAN I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE.

AND I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE BUFFER ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S BEEN, THEY WERE COOPERATIVE NEIGHBORS AND THEY HAD A PLAN OF BUFFERING AND HAVING THAT MANY CARS WHEN YOUR LINE OF SIGHT, WHEN YOU'RE PULLING OUT A, A FUNERAL MOTORCADE TO HAVE THAT MUCH CARS, IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR THE LINE OF SIGHT TO, TO TURN SOUTH AND TO BE LOOKING CAUSE YOU HAVE TO CROSS OVER IN FRONT OF THE, THE NORTHBOUND LANE.

I THINK CERTAINLY THE PLAN NEEDS WORK.

UH, IF, IF THE, IF THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO THAT.

TO THE COMMENTS THAT THE COUNCIL'S MADE AND THE PLAN AND THE PUBLIC HEARING NEXT WEEK.

I SAY, JUST THROW MY 2 CENTS IN A GUN, WENT DOWN ON THIS ONE.

I THINK WE CAN GET A MORE VISUALLY APPEALING, UM, VIEW ON THE FRONT END OF IT.

UM, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME, AS FAR AS THE USAGE.

I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

IT'S, IT'S HAD, YOU KNOW, CARS IN AND OUT OF THAT PLACE.

I MEAN, IT'S MATTER OF FACT, ONCE UPON A TIME I MANAGED THAT BUILDING WHEN IT WAS A LUBE SHOP AND WE DID A LOT OF REPAIRS AND STUFF, UM, WORKING FOR RON.

AND, UM, SO ANYWAY, THE TYPE OF BUSINESS HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME, THEY USAGE, BUT I JUST, I THINK WE CAN GET A BETTER VISUAL FROM THE FRONT, LIKE DON WAS IMPLYING.

AND LIKE RICHARD SAID, BRING US SOMETHING BETTER TO LOOK AT AS A DRIVE BY, I THINK THE BUSINESS ITSELF WOULD BE FINE AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF DEPTH TO THAT LOT.

MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME PARKING TOWARDS THE REAR IF IT RIGHT.

IF THEY WANTED TO ADD THAT.

AND I THINK TOO, WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT OF WHO THE NEIGHBOR IS A LONGSTANDING BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS TOO.

AND I MEAN, THERE WERE ONE OF, I THINK PEOPLE THAT WERE OPPOSED AND IT KIND OF SENT SOME LETTERS REGARDING THE BUSINESS.

SO, UH, WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBOR AND HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN HERE AND, AND THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT THEY HAVE THERE.

SO, UM, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THERE'S, UM, THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL HERE, AS LONG AS WE CAN GET SOMETHING MORE STATICALLY APPEALING IN THAT LOCATION.

UM, I DON'T HEAR ANYONE ON COUNCIL SAYING THEY DON'T LIKE THE USE BECAUSE THAT IS KIND OF THE USE THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO KIND OF UPHOLD THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW THAT LOOKS, UM, IF, IF IT CAN BE, UH, A LITTLE BETTER VISUALLY THAN, THAN I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING.

SO, SO BRIAN, BASED ON THAT, IS THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS, BRIAN, WHAT WOULD BE NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO IN TERMS OF, UM, IF THEY'RE OKAY TO CHANGING SOME OF THIS, UH, RATHER THAN COMING BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ALREADY SCHEDULED OR WOULD, WOULD WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THEY HAVE ANOTHER PLAN OR SHOW SOMETHING DIFFERENT BEFORE WE WOULD DO THAT? THE, UM, WHAT WE COULD DO BASED ON COUNSEL'S COMMENT, WHAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WITH THE PLANNING HERE, BUT THE PLANNING HERE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING ALREADY SCHEDULED AND ADVERTISED, UH, IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR COUNCIL TO POSTPONE THE HEARING.

UM, WHEN, UH, THE POSTED TIME OCCURS TO A LATER DATE, UH, IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO BRING BACK A MORE DETAILED SITE PLAN, AND WHAT I CAN DO IS FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, I CAN REACH OUT TO, UH, TO THE PLANNER, PASS THESE ON AND JUST GET HIS INITIAL THOUGHTS ON WHAT THIS SITE PLAN MIGHT LOOK LIKE, HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT, UH, THE APPLICANT OVERALL, UH, ESPECIALLY TO, I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. AUTO'S COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE LOT, HAVING SOME DEPTH TO IT.

SO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE OF VOLUME OF VEHICLES BEING ON, IS THERE A WAY THAT, UH, WITH SOME STAFF CONSULTATION, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP THE APPLICANT GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME TIME TO GET FROM, UH, WHERE WE ARE TODAY,

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AND IF WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD DISCUSSION, WE CAN AT LEAST UPDATE YOU AT THAT TIME AND THEN PERHAPS POSTPONE OR, UM, TABLE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

EVEN IF WE, IF COUNSEL WAS AMENABLE TO ANOTHER MEETING TO BRING BACK ACTUAL DRAWINGS THAT WOULD REPRESENT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.

SO RATHER THAN WASTE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE AN APPLICATION THAT HAS A USE THAT'S APPEALABLE TO, UH, AMENABLE TO COUNCIL, LET'S CONTINUE THAT PROCESS AND TRY AND HELP THE APPLICANT GET DONE WHAT THEY NEED TO GET DONE, UH, TO ADDRESS COUNCIL'S CONCERN.

IS ITEM THREE E, WHICH IS ZONING CASE B D P 22 DASH OH SEVEN, CHARLES SIMMONS DEVELOPMENT AT THE GABLES, THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON BRAND PLANK.

SO IN THAT CASE, THE, I GUESS WORST CASE WOULD BE THAT WE GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN, UH, WE JUST GET AN UPDATE AND THEN POSTPONE THE ACTUAL HEARING UNTIL ANOTHER MEETING THAT WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION OR MORE FLEXIBILITY BACK FROM THE APPLICANT.

YES, SIR.

THAT WOULD BE MY ADVICE.

ALL RIGHT.

WAS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT FROM ANYONE ON COUNCIL? OKAY.

SO I'M HEARING THAT WE ARE GOING TO POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL SEE WHAT TYPE OF UPDATED INFORMATION THAT WE GET BACK FROM THE APPLICANT.

AND IF THERE ARE, IF THERE AREN'T DRAWINGS OR IF COUNCIL WAS NOT, UM, OKAY.

WITH INFORMATION, WE GET BACK, THAT'S UPDATED FROM THE PLANNER.

ONCE THEY SPOKEN TO THE APPLICANT, THEN WE CAN POSTPONE IT AT THAT POINT.

BUT I THINK WE DON'T MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET THE UPDATE AND ARE READY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME DURING THE MEETING.

AND THEN IF WE NEED TO POSTPONE IT, WE'LL POST ON IT.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

NO PROBLEM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM, FROM ANYONE, ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT SCENARIO? SO WE'LL KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THE DECISION ON WHERE TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THEN ONCE WE GET AN UPDATE, BUT WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT NOW IS A CITY MANAGER TO GET WITH THE PLANNER AND THE PLANNER TO GET WITH YOU AND KIND OF FIND OUT WHAT, UM, WHAT FIXED MIGHT BE AVAILABLE.

[ ZC BDP 22-07 - Charles Simms Development - The Gables - Basic Development Plan - Brandt Pike]

UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, AGAIN ALSO SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 11TH, AND THAT WILL BE AGAINST STAFF REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED BY MR. SORRELL, OUR CONTRACTED PLANNER.

THIS CASE WAS ALSO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, BACK ON MARCH 15TH, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PARCELS ON THE NORTH END OF TOWN, UH, IN CONTRAST TO, UH, TO THE CASE WE JUST DISCUSSED, UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROJECT AREA, UH, IS HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE DASHED RED LINE, UH, AND IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FAIRWAYS CONDOMINIUM PROJECT, UH, JUST NORTH OF THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, THE METRO PARK.

UH, TOTAL AREA OF THE SITE IS JUST UNDER 16.

UH, AND AS I INDICATED WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY PART OF THE FAIRWAYS PROJECT, UH, THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER, UH, SIMS IS PROPOSING 74 UNITS, UM, IN 11 BUILDINGS, THEY ARE INTENDING TO LEAVE JUST OVER 10 ACRES OF THE SITE, UH, AS OPEN SPACE.

UM, THIS IS A VISUAL REFERENCE FROM THE STREET, UH, TO GIVE FOLKS AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT HERE.

THIS WOULD BE, I BELIEVE IT IS THE DAN BERRY FACILITY, IF I'M CORRECT, UH, JUST OFF IN THE DISTANCE AND, OH, HERE WE GO A LITTLE FAST.

SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED FOR THE CITY WHEN THE PROJECT WAS THE RESERVE AT THE FAIRWAYS, UH, THIS PORTION, UH, KIND OF ON THE LOWER PART OF THE SCREEN IS THE PORTION THAT WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED.

UH, EVERYTHING OUTLINED IN THE, UH, THE RED CIRCLE, UH, WAS THE AREA OF THE INITIAL PROJECT THAT WENT UNDEVELOPED AND IS SUBJECT TO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.

UH, YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, WHEN COMPARING AND CONTRASTING THE TWO LAYOUTS, UM, THERE IS A, UH, OBVIOUSLY A CLEAR DIFFERENCE IN DENSITY.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS LESS DENSE.

UH, IT IS DESIGNED AND INTENDED TO BE A SEPARATE PROJECT AWAY FROM THE FAIRWAY.

SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY, UM, WE'LL CALL IT DIRECT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

UH, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, THIS, UH, HAS A SEPARATE ENTRANCE, UH, AS WELL AS SOME BUFFERING BETWEEN THE EXISTING PROJECT OR THE EXISTING, UH, FAIRWAYS, UH, PROJECT AS WELL.

UH, CONCEPTUALLY, THIS IS WHAT, UH, THE PRODUCT IS INTENDED TO LOOK LIKE WHEN COMPLETE ONSITE.

UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THIS IS A SIMILAR IN DESIGN TO PRODUCT, UH, CURRENTLY ALSO IN THE MARKET, UH, WITHIN THE REGION, UH, BY THE SIMS GROUP.

UH, AND AGAIN, SOME ADDITIONAL CONCEPT RENDERINGS OF WHAT THESE PARTICULAR UNITS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, AS YOU'LL NOTE, UH, FROM THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, UH, THAT THIS PROJECT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, OF, UH, OF THE CODE, UH, AND, UH, WORKS TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE COMMON CONCERNS THAT, UM, WE MIGHT HAVE

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WITH RESPECT TO THESE PARTICULAR TYPES OF PROJECTS, UM, ENSURING THAT, UH, WE WOULD BE DELIVERING THE BEST, UH, POTENTIAL PRODUCT, UH, THROUGH THIS PROJECT.

THESE WERE, UM, ADDITIONAL NOTES, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, COMPLIANCE AND CONFORMITY TO THE CODE AS NOTED.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT CAME OUT OF, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WITH A FOUR TO ZERO RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

UH, THESE WERE THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS THAT CAME WITH THAT APPROVAL, AND THESE ARE NOT DISSIMILAR TO OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS IN THE PAST.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DEVELOPER HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE.

THANKS.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY, THANKS MAYOR.

UM, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SPOT WHERE IT HAD PARKING? IT WAS LIKE 334 SPACES AND 200.

HERE WE GO.

HERE WE ARE.

SO IT NOTES THAT, UH, PARKING IS PROVIDED THROUGH A MIXTURE OF GARAGES, DRIVEWAYS, AND GUEST PARKING AREAS 334 SPACES ARE PROPOSED AND 222 ARE REQUIRED.

SO HAVING BEEN AT THE OTHER SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT, HOW MUCH, WHERE ARE THOSE GUEST SPACES AT? UH, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT TO HIGHLIGHT THEM SPECIFICALLY, UM, BUT IT WOULD APPEAR THAT, UH, THESE BUMP-OUTS WOULD REPRESENT WHAT WOULD BE THE GUESTS PARKING AREAS OR THE GUEST PARKING SPACES.

AND THOSE ARE SPREAD OUT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DIVISION.

WELL, THIS ALSO WILL HAVE A CLUBHOUSE WITH NEEDED MORE PARKING.

I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT.

SO THERE'S NO CLUBHOUSE, SO NO NEED FOR AN EXTRA A HUNDRED SPOTS.

CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

THESE ARE ACTUAL, THESE ARE FOR-SALE CONDOMINIUMS. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, GOTCHA.

ANYTHING I JUST WANT TO SAY WELCOME TO, OR HIGHS, GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS COME IN HERE AND PRESENT SUCH A NICE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S ACTUALLY, THIS IS THE LAST PARCEL NORTH THAT'S STILL IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, CORRECT? I THINK I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT.

YOU THE NORTH, NOW YOU REMIND ME, SO, SO THIS IS BETWEEN THE RESERVES AND THEN THE WA WATERSTONE THEIR CARRIAGE TRAILS.

I THINK THAT SECTION THERE.

AND ACCEPT AS ITEM THREE F ZONING CASE OR D 22 DASH 16 CITY SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS.

CORRECT.

I AGREE.

I MEAN, SO SAM'S, THIS IS THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT YOU GUYS HAVE HAVE DEVELOPED IN HUBER HEIGHTS RESERVE.

UH, YEAH.

SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH YOUR WORK, UM, SOUTH OF TOWN.

SO I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY TO SEE YOU, UH, DECIDED TO GIVE HER RIGHTS AS, UH, IS THE NEXT PLACE YOU WANNA DEVELOP.

I KNOW, UM, QUALITY AND BACKGROUND OF SIMS IS VERY WELL KNOWN IN THE AREA.

SO, SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO YOUR MONDAY'S MEETING MAYER? YES.

UM, YEAH, I, I OBJECT TO THIS, MOVING ON, UM, JUST, UH, AS A RESULT OF THAT.

SO JUST TO, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

THERE'S NOT A MAJORITY OBJECTION.

IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO WE'LL BOOTSY THIS ON

[ ZC ORD 22-16 - City Sidewalk Requirements]

THAT IS GOING TO BE MR. BERKMAN, SIR.

UH, YEAH, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP A WHILE BACK.

THIS WAS A CODE PLANNING CHANGE FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION, OUR, FOR OUR CODE TO CHANGE IT, TO ALLOW OR TO REQUIRE WIDENING OF CURBS AND SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF A DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR ANY NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, JEREMY MCDONALD, I THINK REVISE THE CODE ITSELF.

IT WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, I DON'T, I WASN'T AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO KNOW, I GUESS IT WENT APPROVAL THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION.

I DID NOT.

I WASN'T SURE.

THEN WHEN BRIAN, ZOE, NO.

OR JIM.

OKAY, PERFECT.

IN FACT, I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY WELL OVER A YEAR AGO THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED MAKING THIS A REQUIREMENT.

BEFORE IT WAS KIND OF AN OPTION OF WHOEVER'S REVIEWING IT TO REQUIRE IT OR NOT DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION, BUT NOW IT MAKES IT A REQUIREMENT THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE WIDENED AND WITH CURRENT CYCLE.

YEP.

SO, YEAH, I KNOW THIS, THIS HAS COME UP ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS IN DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS AND WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM,

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AND, UM, SO YEAH, I THINK I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS.

I MEAN, THIS DOES ADD SOME RESPONSIBILITY AND HELPS AT LEAST ON OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES ADD SOME CONSISTENCY IN THE CURB AND THE WALKS THAT WE HAVE.

SO CAN I SAY IT DOES MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF TO JUST SAY, LOOK, IT'S REQUIRED.

ALL RIGHT.

IT TAKES IT OUT OF THE NEGOTIATION OR WHATEVER, SO, OKAY.

YES, JERRY, UH, TONY HAD MENTIONED IN SECTION TWO C UH, THERE IS A SECOND LINE THAT SIMPLY READS IN ADDITION, ALL NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS TO EXISTING PAYMENT AND STORM DRAINAGE FOR THE STREET IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

AND HE SAID, HE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS INCOMPLETE, INCOMPLETE, AND IT IS WHEN YOU READ IT WITH THE ONE BEFORE, IT, IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE, BUT I THINK, UM, WELL, I DON'T THINK AT THE, THE COPY THAT WILL BE BEFORE COUNCIL WILL SAY, IN ADDITION, THE SUBTYPE DIVIDER SHELL, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A COMPLETE ALL NECESSARY BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

CAUSE THAT LANGUAGE WAS JUST MISSING, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY SUBSTANTIVE, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR, FOR YOU ON MONDAY.

AND OBJECTIONS TO, UM, TO THIS, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CHANGE THAT MAKES IT READ WITH ACTION.

3G, WHICH IS THE BRAND PIKE REVITALIZATION PROJECT BRIGHTENING UPDATES.

YOU, NO OBJECTIONS.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ONTO MONDAY AS WELL.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ Brandt Pike Revitalization Project]

UH, YES, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF UPDATES FOR THOSE THAT HAVE DRIVEN UP AND DOWN BRENT PIKE, AS OF RECENT, UH, YOU WILL NOTE A GREAT DEAL OF ACTIVITY, UH, ON, UH, THE NORTH END OF THE SITE.

UH, THE WORK OCCURRING UPFRONT IS THE LIBRARY, UH, GETTING THE SITE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION.

UH, THE WORK IN THE BACK IS THE CITY, UH, HANDLING SOME SOIL REMEDIATION FOR SOME PCE AND TCE ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED FROM AN OLD, DRY CLEANER.

UH, WE ARE WAITING ON SOME, UM, COMPACTION INFORMATION FROM THE DATE AND METRO LIBRARY.

THAT PORTION OF THE SITE IS A SHARED PARKING.

SO WE'RE WAITING ON SOME COMPACTION, UM, INFORMATION FROM THEM TO KNOW HOW TO BACK, FILL THAT HOLE AND THEN WE'LL BE DONE.

SO HOPEFULLY, UH, THIS TIME NEXT WEEK, UH, WE'LL BE OFF SITE AND IT'LL JUST BE THE LIBRARY FOLKS WORKING OVER THERE.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE WAITING ON A PROPOSAL FROM BURTON PLANNING.

UH, BURTON IS THE GROUP THAT PUT TOGETHER THE, UM, REVITALIZATION PLAN BACK IN 2016, 17.

UH, AND THEY HAD MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT, UM, IMPROVING THE ROAD AND PRPC PICKED UP ON THOSE THROUGH THEIR REVIEW OF THE PLAN.

AND THEY HAD SUGGESTED THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, UM, A REDEVELOPMENT PACKAGE FOR BRAND PIKE TO MAXIMIZE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STUDY, UH, ALSO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF GRANTS.

SO WE'RE WAITING ON A PROPOSAL FOR, UH, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, UH, TO DO THAT.

SO, UH, BEFORE WE COMMIT TO, UM, MIAMI VALLEY PLANNING COMMISSION, WE SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW HOW MUCH THAT STUFF MIGHT COST.

SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, UH, C R DATE AND RENOVATION THAT IS OUT TO BID, UH, THE FACADE THAT IS CURRENTLY OUT TO BID, UH, THE PRE-BID MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR FOUR 12.

THAT PROJECT IS BEING LED BY OUR FRIENDS AT LWCC.

SO THEY ARE, UH, ACTING AS OUR, UH, AS OUR AGENT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE, UM, THE PROPOSALS BACK FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION, THE FIRST WORK SESSION IN MEETING OF MAY, UH, I'LL CONFIRM THAT WITH THE SCHEDULE, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, IS WHERE WE ARE.

AND THEN, UH, WE CONTINUE TO WORK TO, UM, BRING ALL OF THE VARIOUS PROJECT SCHEDULES INTO ALIGNMENT.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR PROBABLY THE LAST TWO YEARS OR SO WITH VARIOUS FOLKS ALONG THE WAY, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS THE LIBRARY, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS DOGTOWN, UH, OR IN THE CENSUS NOW, UM, HOMESTEAD W WE HAD TO WORK WITH ALL THOSE FOLKS, KNOWING WHAT WE KNEW, BUT WE COULDN'T SHARE, UH, ABOUT OTHER SCHEDULES.

AND SO NOW THAT ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE PUBLIC, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY AND GET EVERYBODY, UH, EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULES LINED UP.

SO SPENDING A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WORKING WITH THOSE FOLKS, BUT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY TO BE AT THE TABLE AND MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD.

SO, UH, THE, THE COUNCIL DREAM OF A FEW YEARS AGO IS ABOUT TO COME OUT OF THE GROUND AS REALITY.

AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP, UH, WORKING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR A BRAND PIKE.

DID I SERVE, THANKS, RYAN.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN ON ANYTHING HE JUST REPORTED? YES, DON, THANK YOU, BRIAN.

ANY IDEA WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, CONTRACTORS STANDING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, I'M ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE FACADE.

SO THIS SCHEDULE THAT THEY HAVE, I BELIEVE IS, UH, I THINK WE CAN EXPECT BODIES ONSITE IN JUNE.

UH, THEY HAD A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND, UM, AND I'M STALLING FOR TIME AS I PULL UP THE EMAIL THAT HAS THE SCHEDULE ON IT.

SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU IF YOU'LL HUMOR ME FOR JUST ONE MOMENT.

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UH, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION OKAY.

FOR HERE.

UH, OKAY.

WE AWARD THE BID, THE FIRST MEETING OF MAY.

I IMAGINE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE WITHIN 30 TO 45 DAYS PROBABLY AFTER THAT.

YEAH, LET'S SEE.

SO PERHAPS IT IS NOT AS EASY TO FIND AS I HAD THOUGHT.

OH, HERE IT IS.

IT'S ALWAYS THE LAST PLACE YOU LOOK.

UM, SO THE, UH, THE PRE-BID MEETING IS, SO IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY.

THE PRE-BID MEETING, THIS IS THE, UH, I LIED, THEY HAD TO UPDATE THE SCHEDULE.

AND, UH, SO WE'VE HAD TWO COMPETING.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'M WORKING FROM THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT, IF YOU WOULD, WE'RE WORKING FROM THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE.

UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT AWARDING THE CONTRACT MAY 28.

SO IF YOU WERE TO PUSH IT WITH CONSTRUCTION, UH, BEGINNING, MAY 2ND.

SO IF YOU WERE TO PUSH THAT OUT ABOUT 30 DAYS, IT WOULD BE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE UPDATED SCHEDULE.

AWESOME.

UM, IF COUNCIL WILL PERMIT ME, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN A REQUEST FOR A MINOR PIECE OF MAINTENANCE THERE, AND THAT WOULD BE TO SEE IF OUR, UM, COMPANY THAT'S HANDLING REPAIRS AND WHAT HAVE, YOU CAN SEND SOMEONE UP THERE WITH A, UM, SINGLE EDGE RAZOR BLADE AND SCRAPE THE WORDS, FLEA MARKET OFF OF THE GLASS WITH ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, THE LIBRARY COMING OUT OF THE GROUND, DOGTOWN AND EVERYTHING ELSE BE A PRETTY CHEAP WAY TO DRESS A PLACE UP JUST A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE START CONSTRUCTION AND I'LL DEFER TO MAYA'S OR COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF THEY THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR A WASTE OF MONEY, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

AND THE UPDATED SCHEDULE IS MAY 16TH.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE TOM SAWYER, HUH? YEAH.

I, WE CAN GO BY RAZORBLADES AND BARRING THAT.

UM, GIVE ME A KEY 30 MINUTES AND I'LL BURN MY OWN RAZORBLADES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, FOR BRIAN'S UPDATE.

UP IS ITEM THREE H WHICH IS THE CONFERENCES RELEVANT PLANS STEERING COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

AND NEXT

[ Comprehensive Development Plan Steering Committee]

UM, SO THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STEERING COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO INCLUDE SEVEN CITIZENS, TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR AT THE LAST MEETING CANCELED PER THE APPOINTMENT OF, UM, NANCY BERG DATA KITCHEN, AND THE AIR CORPS BY THE APPLICATION DEADLINE, WE HAD ONLY RECEIVED THREE CITIZENS APPLICATIONS AND AT A PREVIOUS MEETING CANCELED COUNCIL HAD AGREED TO APPOINT THOSE THREE WITHOUT INTERVIEWS, NOT SHOPPERS, STEVE'S ABANDONED IN HERMAN CARHOP, AND WE ARE STILL WAITING TO COMPLETION OF ONE BACKGROUND CHAP, AND TWO WERE RETURNED SATISFACTORY, UH, FOR VACANCIES STILL EXISTS.

AND WE EVER RECEIVED FOUR APPLICATIONS AS OF END OF BUSINESS TODAY.

AND THOSE APPLICANTS ARE RONALD DX GOT DAVIDSON AND JEFFREY HELD.

SO IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW THE CANDIDATES OF COOK'S OFFICE CAN SET THAT UP.

OR IF YOU WANT TO JUST HOW MANY RUN THE BACKGROUND CHECKS, WE CAN SET THAT UP ALSO.

I'M JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR DIRECTION.

WELL, I THINK IF WE HAD FOUR SPOTS AND IF WE HAD FOUR PEOPLE APPLY, I THINK WE JUST HANDLED IT THE SAME WAY WE HANDLED THE FIRST THREE THAT APPLIED WITHIN THE DEADLINE.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WOULD SEEM TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, AND THE CLOSING DATE IS FAST, THEN THE APPLICATION PERIOD IS YES.

THE APPLICATION DATE HAS PASSED.

THERE WERE FOUR VACANCIES.

WE HAD FOUR APPLICATIONS WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE JUST APPOINT THE FOUR THAT APPLIED, UH, CALL IT A GOOD OBJECTION TO THAT.

NO OBJECTION.

ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THAT ON TO, WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO THAT.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING NEED TO BY LEGISLATION, CORRECT.

CAUSE LEGISLATION ALREADY EXISTED FORM A COMMITTEE, CORRECT? YES.

LEGISLATION EXISTS TO FORM THE COMMITTEE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO NO OBJECTIONS WITH THAT.

AND THEN WE WOULD JUST DIRECT THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO GO AHEAD AND PERFORM BACKGROUNDS AND GET THAT DONE AND LET US KNOW THOSE, IF THOSE FOUR DONE, THEN WE'LL POINT THEM.

THREE, IC LIQUOR PERMITS FOR ANY 2022 ANNUAL OBJECTIONS.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ City Liquor Permits - 2022 Annual Objections]

WE TYPICALLY SEE THIS, UM, ANNUALLY AS IT SAYS.

SO,

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UM, SO EACH YEAR THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REJECT ANY RENEWAL OF ANY LIQUOR LICENSES IN THE CITY.

UM, CITY STAFF, POLICE DIVISION, AND FIRE DIVISION HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED ANY LIQUOR PERMIT OBJECTIONS IN THE CITY AT THIS TIME.

WE JUST WANTED TO MOVE ON WITH THAT.

UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THERE WAS? UM, I WAS JUST, SO FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, WE HAD THE ONE OBJECTION THAT WE HAD BEFORE THAT SEEMED LIKE IT TOOK TWO YEARS TO GET THROUGH ALL OF COVID AND ALL THAT STUFF.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE OPERATING AS A BUSINESS NOW, DO WE KNOW, OR WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET, I MEAN, DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY OTHER COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES OR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS WE COULD FIND OUT BEFORE STATING PUBLICLY AND OFFICIALLY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS? UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH AND EVALUATE, UM, WHENEVER THERE'S PARTICULAR, WHATEVER THOSE ESTABLISHED MIGHTS BE ALL SELECT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED EVERY POSSIBLE SITUATION, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT GIVE US A REASON TO FILE THE OBJECTION.

I THINK I REMEMBER JERRY, DO YOU REMEMBER THE BAG? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE DID FILE, BUT THEN THEY CAME BACK AND THERE WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT IT, BUT I WOULD JUST BE NICE TO KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE CONTINUAL ONGOING COMPLAINTS WITH THAT PARTICULAR.

BY THE TIME THEY GOT AROUND TO HEARING IT, IT WAS NOT ONLY, UH, THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD BE REINSTATED, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRANSFER IT AND THEY HAD ALREADY TRANSFERRED IT AND SOMEONE ELSE WAS ALREADY IN THERE AND OPERATING.

AND SO IT WAS CRAZY.

BUT ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF AT THAT TIME, THE, THE, UH, ENTITY OPERATING AND HADN'T, UH, NO REAL COMPLAINTS, NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER, NOT EVEN THAT HAD NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF ANY.

SINCE THEN.

I REMEMBER WE HAD, UM, UH, MR. SHAWL CERTAINLY HAD SOME ISSUES THERE.

UH, I THINK AS, AS DOES SOME REST OF COUNCIL WE VERBALLY HAD TALKED ABOUT, SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE, THAT WE'RE ALL GOOD BEFORE WE PUBLICLY SAY NO.

MA'AM UM, IN LINE OF GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM CHIEF ON, UH, THAT, THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS IN ANY OTHERS, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION MOVE TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION, UH, BARRING NO, UM, STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO FILE AN OBJECTION BY A CERTAIN DATE, UM, AS THERE IS A BUSINESS THAT I'M LOOKING INTO, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO COUNCIL.

I HAVE NOT FINISHED MY RESEARCH AT THIS TIME.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO RICHARDS, UH, WAY TO MOVE THIS ONTO WORK SESSION? THERE, THERE IS A TIMEFRAME, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS.

SECOND BY SECOND.

AND SECOND IS THE DEADLINE.

SO WE'RE GOOD.

SO IF WE HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION THAT WE COULD STILL GET IN TIME FOR THE LAST MEETING OF NAMES FOR THE JUNE TICKET THAT WAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

NEXT UP IS I'M FOUR, WHICH IS OUR GERMAN.

UM, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, UH, THERE IS A NEED FOR A EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING.

UH, I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO MR. MCDONALD TO READ THE MOTION AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE.

UH, WE NEED AN, A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION RELATED TO TRADE SECRETS OF AN APPLICANT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, WHERE THE INFORMATION IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO REQUESTS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ASSISTANCE UNDER ONE OF THE LISTED PROGRAMS AND ORC 1 21 22 G EIGHT, AND WHERE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE INTEREST OF THE APPLICANT OR POSSIBLE INVESTMENT OR EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO BE MADE IN CONNECTION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

IS THERE A MOTION? NO.

MR. CAMPBELL, IS THERE A SECOND, MR. WEBB MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION PRIOR TO THE BOOK MS. BAKER? YES.

AND MOTION TO MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

UH, WHEN THAT'S OVER, WE'LL COME OUT AND I WANT TO KNOW IF ANY DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.