* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. [ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road December 16, 2021 6:30 P.M.] IT IS 6:32 PM. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO WATER. ROLL CALL. THAT'S A KING HERE. BRIAN DADDY HERE. ALEX BLACK HERE. CHRISTOPHER HALL HERE. BLAKE HERSTEIN HERE. GLENN POTTINGER SIDNEY SMITH. DENNIS SNYDER. MATT, TAKE RON I FOR HERE. WELL, GO AHEAD. MOVE ON TO IT. I DON'T NUMBER THREE, OPENING REMARKS BY THE CHAIR. SO WELCOME EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM HERE. CITIZEN COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS SINCE THERE ARE NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA. ITEM, NUMBER FIVE, OLD BUSINESS PARKS MANAGER, UPDATE JOSH GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, A COMMUNITY CENTER OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN PUT DOWN THERE TO, UH, MAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY IS STILL AVAILABLE FOR US. WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER OPTION, SO WE'LL KEEP OUR EYES OPEN FOR THAT. UM, THEY DID START PUTTING SOME SOD DOWN AT THE SKATE PARK THIS WEEK. THEY STARTED YESTERDAY. THEY GOT, UH, TWO OF THE INFIELD AREAS OF THE PUMP TRACK DONE. AND AS THE SOD FARM CAN CUT SOD, THEY WILL GET IT FOR US. BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT NOW WITH THIS RAIN WE GOT TODAY, THOSE FIELDS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY SWAMPY. UM, BUT THEY'LL HAVE, UH, ALL THE INFIELDS OF BOTH THE BMX AND THE SKATE AND THE PUMP TRACK DONE. AND PART OF THE PERIMETER, A COUPLE OF LAYERS OF THE PERIMETER OF THE BMX TRACK WILL BE DONE. UM, BY THE END OF THE WINTER, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME FINALIZED DESIGN. I CAN'T SHOW IT TO YOU THIS EVENING, BUT I WILL GET AN EMAIL OF IT OUT TO, TO VINCE FOR THE SKILLS LOOP THERE THAT MONITA, UH, WE MADE A COUPLE OF CHANGES. UM, THEY HAD, UH, SOME PRETTY COOL FEATURES ON IT, BUT THEY WERE, YOU HAD TO BE PRETTY SKILLED ALREADY TO HANDLE THOSE FEATURES. SO WE, WE TOOK THE ONE OF THEM OUT, UM, AND EXCHANGED IT FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE USER-FRIENDLY FOR EVERYONE. UM, THAT WAY WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY, UH, INCIDENTS UP THERE, BUT I'LL GET THAT OVER TO VAN SO HE CAN GET THAT PICTURE TO YOU GUYS. AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ONCE THEY START ON IT. UM, AS WE WRAP UP THE YEAR, I'VE GOT TWO MORE RENTALS FOR THE YEAR AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO WE WILL END THE YEAR WITH 40 RENTALS, UM, FOR THIS SEASON. SO, UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF USE UP THERE AND THOSE 40 RENTALS ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE SCOUT TROOPS THAT ARE USING IT. SO THE SCOUT TROOPS, UM, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY PAY ONE FLAT RATE FOR ALL THE SCOUT TROOPS PLUS SERVICE HOURS FROM EACH TROOP. UM, CAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE MEETING WEEKLY. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE $200 A MONTH FOR A LOT OF THOSE SCOUT TROOPS. SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PLAN WITH THEM, BUT, UH, IT WORKS OUT WELL. SO I MEAN, IF YOU COUNT THE WEEKS FROM THAT, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THREE TO FOUR A WEEK IN THERE SINCE JANUARY, SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD YEAR GETTING A LOT OF USE UP THERE AND UM, GOT A FEW MORE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE. WE DID GET MOLD CHATTED TO THE PLAYGROUND THAT IS STILL LEFT UP THERE. THE CLIMBER GOT A BORDER PUT AROUND IT. UM, THAT WAS THE REMNANTS OF THE COMMUNITY FIRE. WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE SOME OF THE BORDER FROM THAT AND UH, USE IT, REPURPOSE IT UP THERE. SO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, A DESIGN ON ITS WAY FOR COMMUNITY. UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO A SIMPLE DESIGN UP THERE, BUT IT WILL INCLUDE, UM, THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE SWING. UM, THAT WILL BE OUR NEW STANDARD FOR ALL NEW PLAYGROUNDS, UH, MOVING FORWARD MINUS THE AMPHITHEATER, JUST BECAUSE THAT SWING COSTS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND AT THE AMPHITHEATER. AND, UH, WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY SWINGS UP THERE AT ALL. SO, UM, BUT, UM, SO AS THAT DESIGN COMES IN, I WILL PASS THAT ONTO THE BOARD AS WELL. AND UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET, UM, THAT PUT IN PRETTY QUICKLY IN THE SPRING OR LATE SPRING, NEXT YEAR, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG MANUFACTURING TAKES ON IT. SO OTHER THAN THAT YEARS OVER SO THAT WHEN YOU START PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR, CAN YOU TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE SKATE PARK? SORRY. OH YEAH, YEAH, THAT WAS A, WE HAD A GOOD CROWD. WE HAD OVER 250 PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THE SOFT OPENING OF THE SKATE PARK. UM, I GOT THERE ABOUT 12 AND THERE WAS ALREADY OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE AT 12 O'CLOCK AND, UM, [00:05:02] THE GUYS THAT WERE DOING THE INSTALL GOT THERE EIGHT O'CLOCK THAT MORNING TO FINISH PUTTING SOME SIDE PANELS ON. AND AS SOON AS THE FROST WAS OFF THE GROUND, THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE. SO IT'S, UH, AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY EVERY DAY, ABOUT THREE O'CLOCK. WE GOT A GOOD CROWD OF ABOUT 20 OR 30 SHOW UP AND, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DAY THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN PEOPLE THERE. SO IT'S DEFINITELY GETTING USED. UM, THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY ENJOYING IT. UH, WE DID HAVE ONE INCIDENT. UM, THE DAY OF A COUPLE OF BIKES WERE STOLEN FROM, UH, MIKE'S BIKE PARK. THEY WERE RECOVERED ABOUT FOUR DAYS LATER. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS KIND OF A MISCOMMUNICATION IS WHAT THE, IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD. SO WE'LL SEE. HOW'S THE PARKING, YOU MENTIONED 250 PEOPLE WERE THERE. I KNOW THE CHURCH HAS BEEN, UM, WAS THERE OVER, HELLO? IS THERE ISSUES WITH PARKING OR ANYTHING? UH, WE WERE PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE GRASS THAT LONG THAT GOES OUT TOWARDS FITCHBURG. THE CHURCH DID TELL PEOPLE, PLEASE USE OUR LAW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WHILE YOU'RE HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHURCH WAS, UH, SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE, HAVE THAT AMENITY ADDED. I GUESS THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SKATE COMMUNITY AT THEIR CHURCH. SO THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED WITH IT. THEY DRUG THEIR GRILL OVER, THEY GRILLED OUT HOT DOGS ALL DAY LONG AND WE'RE PASSING OUT CHIPS AND WATER AND STUFF. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, UH, THEY WERE MORE THAN WILLING TO LET US USE WHATEVER THEY TOLD US. THEY'D OPENED THE BUILDING. WE COULD USE THE RESTROOMS IF WE WANTED TO DO SO, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I SAID, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT LET'S NOT, LET'S NOT GO THAT FAR TODAY, BUT, UH, THEY ARE ALREADY ASKING WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR THE SPRING WHEN WE HAVE OUR GRAND OPENING. UM, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP THEM IN THE LOOP WITH THAT AS WELL. SO VINCE WAS DOING BACKFLIPS ON BURGERS NOW, FORTUNATELY. YEAH, NO, WE AIN'T GOING TO WRITE IN THERE. SO I WOULD SAY I WAS THERE AS WELL, AND IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. UM, A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS FROM YOUNG YOUNG CHILDREN TO ADULTS THAT WERE VERY INTERESTED AND WERE HAVING A LOT OF FUN. UM, I WATCHED A DEMONSTRATION, UM, A LOT OF VERY INTERESTING, UM, AS WELL, JUST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS, THAT THOSE, SO IF YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT TO MY NEED, TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE, WATCH, WATCH THE KIDS, WATCH THE ADULTS, UM, PRACTICE AND, AND PERFORM ON THE TRACK. SO, AND I'M SURE THE HELMETS ARE GONE LIKE THAT. THEN THAT MANY PEOPLE RAN OUT OF THE LARGER ONES OF THOSE IMMEDIATELY. I PROBABLY STILL GOT 14 OR 15 OUT OF 20 OF THE SMALL ONES DEFINITELY GETS MORE. IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS OR ARE THERE SIGNS UP SAYING CERTAIN THINGS CAN BE DONE ON SIR, WE'RE STILL GETTING SIGNAGE TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VERBIAGE THAT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE USE, BUT SOME OF IT, THE LANGUAGE IS TOO STRONG. SO WHEN YOU PUT TOO STRONG A LANGUAGE IN THERE, YOU'RE ASSUMING MORE LIABILITY. SO, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SIGNS UP THAT JUST SIMPLY SAY THIS, UM, THIS FACILITY IS UNSUPERVISED, YOU USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. UH, BUT AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE COLLECTING, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE WORDED FOR OUR SIGNING AND STUFF. YEAH. IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, NOTHING MOTORIZED, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE HARD PART, CAUSE THEY'RE NOT VEHICLES. SO YOU CAN'T SAY NO MOTOR VEHICLES, BUT IT'S NOT EQUIPMENT. SO IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND THAT WORDING A LOT OF TIMES IT'LL SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, HUMAN POWERED WHEEL IMPLEMENTS OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE UP AT RIGHT NOW. I, NOBODY REALLY HAS A GOOD ANSWER FOR US. IF ONE TRACK YOU CAN'T PUT BIKES AND ROLLER SPEEDS ON BOTH OF THEM. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO THE PUMP TRACK WAS DESIGNED TO BE WRITTEN COUNTER-CLOCKWISE NOW YOU CAN RIDE A CLOCKWISE. AND IF THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, PEOPLE WILL THEY'LL RIDE IT THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. BUT MOST OF THE TIME WHEN THERE'S A LARGE GROUP, THERE, THEY'RE ALL GOING THE SAME DIRECTION. AND YOU KNOW, YOU LET SOMEBODY GO, YOU COUNT TO 10 AND THEN YOU GO AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KIND OF GIVE EACH OTHER SPACE, BUT I MEAN, THERE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, ANY ISSUES, COLLISIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO YEAH, ONCE WE GET OUR SIGNAGE UP, IT'LL BE A LITTLE EASIER. I ASKED THEM IF WE NEEDED TO PAINT ARROWS OR ANYTHING ON IT. AND THEY SAID, NO, IT IT'LL IT'LL WORK ITSELF OUT. SO, UH, JUDGE, WHAT ARE THE PROCEDURES FOR YOU HAVE FROM KIDS LIKE CHANGING THE HELMETS? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU HAVE YOUR CHILD RIDES THAT AND MINE HAD COMING ALONG LATER ON WHO RESPONSIBLE FOR [00:10:01] CLEANING THE HELMET? OH NO, NO, NO. WE DON'T RENT THE HELMETS OUT. WE WERE GIVEN HELMETS BY CHILDREN'S AND WE GAVE THOSE. YEAH. THEY WERE GIVEN TO THEM. IT'S THEIR HELMET. YEAH, NO, WE DON'T RENT THEM OUT. YEAH. I'M NOT GOING TO SIT UP THERE ALL DAY AND DO THAT. I JUST THROW THEM IN A BUCKET AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED ONE, TAKE ONE, TAKE ONE. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JOSH? OKAY. THANKS JOSH. OKAY. UH, NUMBER TWO, YMCAS AT THE HEIGHTS. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT, UM, WE WILL START TAKING RESERVATIONS FOR SHELTERS AND USER GROUPS, UM, AFTER, UH, JANUARY 2ND. SO THE THIRD, UM, SO THE FIRST AND THE SECOND ARE ON A SATURDAY, SUNDAY THIS YEAR. SO WE'LL START DOING THAT ON THE THIRD. UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE IS THAT, UM, THERE WAS MONEY ALLOCATED AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET FOR THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER. UM, SO WE'RE DOING SOME WORK UP THERE. UM, SO WILL CLUES PAINTING OF THE POOLS, SOME WORK IN THE CONCESSION STAND, UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME SINCE IT'S BEEN BUILT THAT THE AQUATIC CENTER HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT NEWS. SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE SOME INVESTMENT THERE AND CONTINUE TO KEEP THE FACILITY UP AND LOOKING GOOD. OKAY, PERFECT. THEY'RE NOT CAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT REVENUE. SO, UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT RATES AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD. UM, SO YOU KNOW, THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THINGS CONTINUES TO INCREASE AS EVERYBODY NOTICES IN THEIR EVERYDAY WORLDS. UM, REVENUES, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS HAVE NOT CHANGED. SO THERE'VE BEEN PRETTY STEADY. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT, UM, WITH BRIAN AND JIM AND MYSELF AND JOSH AND SARAH FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO RATES BOTH DAILY AND MEMBERSHIP. YES. IS IT BREAKING EVEN? NO, IT'S NOT BREAKING, YOU KNOW, NO, SORRY. UM, IF YOU THERE'S TWO RATES, THERE'S A RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT, I BELIEVE DEPENDING ON IF TWO ADULTS AND TWO KIDS I THINK IS THE WAY THE RULES WERE SET UP OR THE WORDING, UM, I THINK IT COMES OUT TO BE SOMEWHERE TO SHOW JUST NORTH OF $200 AND THEN EACH ADDITIONAL CHILD IS AN ADDITIONAL $10. PERFECT. YEAH. AND THEN IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT THREE KIDS, YOU KNOW, IT'S $10. YEAH. THAT'S RESIDENT PRICE. AND THEN I THINK THE NON-RESIDENT IS CLOSER TO 300. I THINK IT IS. AND I'D HAVE TO LOOK. YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE $10. UM, YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE THE PRICES THAT WERE SET WHEN, WHEN I STARTED AND, AND CITY STAFF HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION, UM, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE PRICING, IT'S NOT A YMC DECISION. WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE JUST OPERATED, SO WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION, FIGURE OUT, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT SOME OTHER POOLS ARE CHARGING IN THE AREA. UM, AND, AND GO FROM THERE. SO, BUT WE WILL HAVE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ADDED WHEN DURING THE PANDEMIC WAS THE RESIDENT AND MEMBER ONLY DAYS, UM, WE ACTUALLY EXPANDED THAT BY AN EXTRA DAY, THIS PAST YEAR AND WE'LL KEEP THOSE IN PLACE, UM, AS WELL. AND THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR, OUR BEST ATTENDED DAYS. YEAH. SO WE'LL, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING. SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS, CHRIS? AND IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE A LIFEGUARD, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED RECRUITING, SO IT'S A YEAR ROUND GIG, RIGHT. I'VE SEEN HOW YOU REFFED VOLLEYBALL. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU BE AS A LIFEGUARD, EVERY, EVERY LITTLE KID WOULD GET A TECHNICAL FOUL AND BE THROWN OUT. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, PROGRAMMING IN 2022. SO NEXT YEAR, SO, UM, AS YOU ALL REMEMBER, UM, LAST MONTH WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THAT WE WANTED TO TRY AND INSTITUTE, UM, FOR, UH, FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE HERE. SO WE TALKED ABOUT GOK GEOCASHING ROCK PAINTING CLASSES, TREE IDENTIFICATION, CLASSES, CREATING SOME POLLINATED AREAS AS WELL. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS TRY AND ADD, I'M GOING TO TRY AND DEVELOP A CALENDAR FOR US JUST TO THROW OUT SOME PROPOSED DATES, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE WANT TO DO WHEN, WHEN, SUCH AS THE DOG PARADE AND THE PARK CLEANUPS. CAUSE WE WERE DOING IT DURING ONE, ON APRIL 24TH [00:15:01] FOR EARTH DAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND THAT WAY, WHERE WE CAN LOOK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CONFLICTING WITH ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER EVENT GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY. SO, SO I'LL START DEVELOPING THAT AND I'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU ALSO HAVE A, YOU ALL AT LEAST HAVE A COPY OF WHAT I AM LOOKING AT, WHAT I SEE CURRENTLY. SO YOU ALL WILL GET THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL IDEAS WE WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE? I DIDN'T MENTION THEM ALL, BUT OKAY, WELL LET'S START ROLLING. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME HIGH SCHOOL PLAYERS VOLUNTEERED AND ALLOWS THEM TO REACH OUT TO IN THE BAG. ALL RIGHT. SO CHRIS, I'LL THROW THAT OVER TO YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM PARTS OF FACILITY PROCEDURES. SO LAST MONTH WE STARTED GOING THROUGH THE PARTS OF FACILITY USE PROCEDURES DOCUMENT, UM, JUST TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED. THE ULTIMATE DECISION AT THAT TIME WAS TO PROBABLY LEAVE IT, LEAVE MOST OF IT ALONE AS IS, UM, BUT ADDING, UM, THE PERMIT OR THE SERVE SAFE. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT THE COST ON PAGE TWO FOR, UM, FOR THE CONCESSION STAND CAME AND CHARGED BRIGHTLY TRICITY INTERNET. SO PREVIOUSLY IT WAS $200 A MONTH AND WE THOUGHT THAT COST WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE OBSESSIVE. UM, WE THREW OUT A NUMBER INITIALLY ABOUT $75, BUT THEN WE ALSO ASKED JOSH TO GO BACK AND SEE IF HE CAN COLLECT NUMBERS. UM, SO HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST THE ACTUAL COST THROUGH THROUGH THE SEASON. SO JOSH, THE WAY CLOUD PARK IS SPLIT UP ON OUR DP AND L BILL IS WE HAVE ONE BILL FOR THE BLUE HOUSE AND ONE BILL FOR THE REST OF THE PARK. SO WE DO NOT HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE CONCESSION STAND COSTS. UH, YOU GOT TO THINK MOST OF THE ELECTRICITY FOR THE REST OF THE PARK HAS COMING IN SPLASH PAD, DIGITAL SIGN, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT LIGHTS, IT'S ALL OF THAT COMBINED. UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE CONCESSION STAND IS. UM, YOU KNOW, VINCE AND I TALKED AND IT SEEMED TO BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KEEPING IT RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE INTERNET COST $50 A MONTH, YOU KNOW, SO 200 PER SEASON FOR MOST OF THE SPORTS, UM, AND THAT'LL COVER, WHAT WAS THAT FOR? WAS IT 200, JUST THE ELECTRIC 200 WITH THE ELECTRIC AND THE, UM, WELL, BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE THE WIFI IS 50 A MONTH. 200. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO IT'D BE A HUNDRED A MONTH FOR THE TWO ELECTRIC AND WIFI COMBINED. YEAH. UM, IS KIND OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED. SO 400 A SEASON, UM, TO COVER EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AT THE CONCESSION STAND. AND THEN THAT COST OBVIOUSLY WILL ROLL RIGHT BACK INTO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE UPGRADES THAT NEED TO BE DONE THERE FOR THE ADDING OF BREAKERS, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT GETTING THE EXHAUST FAN PUT INTO TO COOL IT DOWN IN THERE, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, JULY AND AUGUST WHEN IT'S 115 DEGREES IN THE CONCESSION AREA. SO, OKAY, BRIAN, I GOT NOTHING GOING RIGHT NOW, CHRIS, A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH. 50 OF THAT IS, IS THE ACTUAL COST OF THE INTERNET. AND THEN THE OTHER 50 IS OUR ESTIMATE FOR ELECTRIC USE WATER. WELL, YEAH, IT'S OUR WATER. WE DON'T, I MEAN, THERE'S NO WATER BILL THERE. IT'S OUR OWN WATER. SO 100 A MONTH. WE'LL GET YOU THE ELECTRIC AND THE WIFI. NO CONCESSION STAND IS ONE GROUP AT THE TIME. USUALLY SPRING, USUALLY SPRING IS SOFTBALL, BASEBALL, AND THEN FALL IS SOCCER, SIDNEY, ALEX ON O'CONNOR WAIT, DENNIS. GOOD. RON. I HAVE A COMMENT. I KNOW, I KNOW. SO I THINK, UM, THAT PROBABLY A HUNDRED BUCKS A MONTH IS PROBABLY [00:20:01] A LITTLE TOO HIGH FOR ELECTRIC. WELL THAT'S ELECTRIC AND INTERNET AND ELECTRIC AND INTERNET HAVE THE A HUNDRED A MONTH IS BECAUSE THE ACTUAL COST FOR THE WIFI IS 50. SO IT'S 50 A MONTH FOR THE ELECTRIC. GOT IT. OKAY, PERFECT. NOW THE A HUNDRED IS BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER. OKAY. REFRIGERATORS, FREEZERS. WE HAVE, UM, HOT POPCORN MACHINE, HOTDOG ROLLERS, ELECTRIC FANS RUNNING WELL. SURE, SURE. AND IT PROBABLY DOESN'T, BUT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO BREAK DOWN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA, YEAH. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN POWER. THINK OUR LOCKED IN AGGREGATE PRICE JUST WENT FROM FOUR TO, AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT WE WON'T NEED, THEY WON'T EVEN LOCK IT IN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TOUCH THAT RATE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO IF EVERYONE IS GOOD WITH $50 A MONTH, UM, AND ON, AND I DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT IN HERE. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS GO AHEAD AND VOTE AND MAKE A MOTION. I'M SORRY. A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED A MONTH. ABOUT $400 A SEASON. OKAY. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW IS TO ADJUST THE RENTAL COST FOR THE CONCESSION. SORRY. THEY SUGGEST THE CLASS WITH THE ELECTRICITY AND INTERNET. IT'S FROM $200 A MONTH TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH, $400 A SEASON. IS THERE A MOTION FIRST? OKAY. A SECOND, DENNIS. OKAY. CAN I GET ROLL CALL? YES. YES. ALEX BLACK. YES. CHRISTOPHER HALL. HER STYLE. YES. NO SIDNEY SMITH. YES. DID A SNYDER. YES, WE HAVE MAJORITY OKAY. UH, THE NEXT MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO APPROVE THE PARTS FACILITY USE PROCEDURES IN GENERAL, AS, UM, WITH THAT CHANGE. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ADJUST, TO APPROVE THE PARTS FACILITY, USE PROCEDURES WITH THE CHANGE FOR THE ELECTRICITY AND INTERNET? OKAY. YEAH. BLAKE, IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. ALEX, CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? YES. YES. ALEX BLACK. YES. YES, YES, YES. OKAY. PERFECT. SO PARTS FACILITIES USE PROCEDURES ARE APPROVED. OKAY. AND WHAT WE WILL DO IS I WILL ADD THIS ON, WE'LL ADD THIS ON TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN FOR 2023, SOMETIME IN MID JUNE, MID YEAR. SORRY. OKAY. NEXT AGENDA ITEM HERE IN NEW BUSINESS, 2022 RENT AND RECREATION BOARD SCHEDULE. IF YOU ALL LOOK ON THE BACK OF YOUR MINUTES HERE, THE LAST FORM OF YOUR MINUTES PACKAGE, UM, YOU WILL SEE THE LIST OF DATES. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ARE WE MEETING? YEAH. MARCH 17TH, ST. PATRICK'S DAY. GIVE ME A TOUGH ONE. THAT'S GOING TO TELL THEM AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, RIGHT. IT'S A ROTARY GOING TO BE THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT IS GOING TO BE AMAZING. WE'LL TRY TO RESCHEDULE. I'M NOT THAT BAD. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, SO THIS HERE IS THE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THIS YEAR. IT CAN ALWAYS CHANGE BASED ON AVAILABILITY AND WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT OR WE DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO MEET OR OKAY. AND FOR THE RECORD, THE SCHEDULE IS REMAINS MONTHLY CURRENTLY. [00:25:04] OKAY. LET'S GENDER ITEM HERE. IT'S THE ELECTION OF 2022 CHAIR. AND VICE-CHAIR SO EVERY YEAR IN DECEMBER, WE SIT DOWN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, UM, WHAT SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WHO WE NOMINATE SHOULD BE THE VICE CHAIR AND CHAIR, OR WHO WANTS TO DO IT. SO I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO YOU ALL, ALEX, WE ALL, AS A WHOLE ADDITIVE, IT AIN'T BROKE. DON'T SPLIT. SO YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. I'M GOING TO JUST RECOMMEND LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS. NOW. YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO A BRAD OVER THERE, BUT I'LL GET YOU TO CONTINUE. OKAY, BRIAN? WELL, I AGREE WITH VINCE. VINCE HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT, OUTSTANDING JOB, UH, UH, MYSELF, UH, PART OF THE VICE-CHAIR IT'S TO TAKE OVER IF IS GOING TO BE HERE. I'M NOT PLANNING ON LEAVING OR ANYTHING, BUT MY SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY PACKED LATE, ESPECIALLY COMING UP TO THIS, YOU KNOW, IN THE FALL BOTH, I GOT TWO KIDS PLAYING HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER. I GOT IN THE THIRD KID PLAYING TRAVEL SOCCER AND IT JUST GOING TO BE THOSE TWO OR THREE MONTHS, I'M JUST GOING TO BE EXTREMELY BUSY. SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF ANYBODY'S WILLING TO STEP UP, TO TAKE THE VICE CHAIR ROLE. THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST BE THAT JUST IN CASE THE PERSON WAITING FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR YEARS UNTIL I CAN GET THROUGH ALL MY KIDS THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM WHAT BRIAN JUST SAID? I NEED HIS NOMINATIONS. I DON'T KNOW. PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT YEARS. I THINK I WAS HERE, BUT I THINK I WAS HERE. I THINK I'VE BEEN HERE LOADING ANYONE GO BRAG CAME OUT WITH THEIR YELLOW, CAROL MOMS WAS THERE AND TRACY HAD DONE THIS. I GO WAY BACK, FELL OUT OF THE ADVICE, CHAIRED IT WITH TRUDEAU WAS CAROL. UM, UM, I LOSE TRACK THERE. SO, UH, YEAH, SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT IN A FLAVOR HERE, THEY GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. WELL, I REALLY WOULD HATE TO COMMIT TO IT. AND THAT GUY SAID, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU RETIRE THE HARD TO GET AN OLD TRUCK MOVING AGAIN. SO I'M A LITTLE HESITANT STEP INTO THAT. THAT NO ONE ELSE WOULD TAKE IT. I WOULD'VE BEEN STOOD IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO A VOLUNTEER. YOU DON'T BE DOING IT. I'M HOPING IF SOMEBODY ELSE HERE WITH STEP FAULT. SO LET ME ASK, ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS VOLUNTEER NOMINATIONS, NOMINATIONS. SO YOU PROVIDE A NOMINATION NOMINATING. OKAY. SO WE HAVE ONE HERE. ARE THERE ANY MORE, AND THEN ARE THERE ANY VOLUNTEERS GIVEN THAT YOU COULD PUT A SLOW PITCH DOWN THE MIDDLE? THAT'S WHAT IT WAS A LITTLE CLOSE TO THE BACK OF YOUR NOMINATION. I THINK SHE'LL BE A GREAT PERSON FOR THAT. AND I THINK THERE'S SOME, SOME POCKET USE ON HER RED, MAYBE. SO I KNOW MY NAME FITNESS. OKAY. ANY MORE? UM, SO WE HAVE BLAKE, ALEX, AND SYDNEY, THEN THAT'S ENOUGH. OKAY. SO LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION, BLAKE, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT NOMINATION? UH, RESPECTFULLY. OKAY. OUTWARDS, A LITTLE TWIST THERE. SEE ME. OKAY. SHE'S DECLINING. SO DID BRIAN DECLINE, WE CALL THAT A DECLINE. DID YOU ASK HIM BRIAN? YOU DECLINING AGAIN, [00:30:01] JUST LIKE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IF NOBODY ELSE IS WILLING, YOU KNOW, SO I GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MINUTES. OKAY. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TWO AND I DO ACCEPT SO SORRY FOR IT FOR CHAIR. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE. SO I DO, BUT I WANT TO BE, SHE HUNTED ME DOWN. HUH? LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S JUST THE FALL MONTHS. IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY BUSY FOR ME. SO, AND THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR CURRENTLY IS, UH, TO NOMINATE HIM TO ELECT AND IT'S KING AS CHAIR. IS THERE A FIRST MOTION? I GOT 3 31 ROCO. YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. SIDNEY SMITH. YES. TO THE SNYDER. YEP. OKAY. A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ELECT, UH, ALEX BLACK AS VICE CHAIR. IS THERE A FIRST, NOT HERE TO DECLINE, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE, BUT HE HAS TO ACCEPT THAT. OKAY. UM, SYDNEY. OKAY. SO SECOND, SECOND. OKAY. ROLL CALL. YES. YES, YES. YES. LIKE HER STYLE. YES. GLENN POTTINGER SYDNEY SMITH. YES. DENNIS SNYDER. CONGRATULATIONS. THE NEW CHAIRS FOR 2022 IS FENCE AND ALEX LOOKING FORWARD TO GREAT SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO AGENDA. ITEM, NUMBER SEVEN, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY, YUP. WE'RE ON THE, UH, BASEBALL FIELDS IN CLOUD. THEY SPRAYED THEM A WHILE BACK TO KILL OFF ALL THE FIELDS AND THEY WERE OUT THERE YESTERDAY. UM, STRIPPING SOME OF THAT OLD, UH, ORGANIC MATERIAL OFF TO START LEVELING THOSE OUT. SO AS WEATHER PERMITS THROUGHOUT THE WINTER, THEY WILL CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT. YOU MAY, UH, YOU MAY SEE THEM OUT THERE. YOU MAY NOT, BUT IF YOU GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, YOU'LL SEE SOME FRESH DIRT MOVED AROUND ANYTHING FURTHER. YES. UM, I'VE KEPT LAST MONTH. I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP AGAIN. THIS BUCK. WHAT ARE THE PLANS, BUT GET IN THE BASKETBALL COURTS OVER HERE, NORTH OF OUR 70, I WAS JUST TELLING CHRIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, I TALKED TO WAGNER PAVING, UH, TO START GETTING A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WHAT A, UH, ASPHALT PAD WOULD COST. UM, LOOKING AT THE DIMENSIONS OF FULL SIZED BASKETBALL COURTS, 120 BY A HUNDRED WOULD GIVE US TWO FULL-SIZED COURTS, THREE FOOT, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE THE EDGES AND 14 FEET IN BETWEEN THE TWO COURTS. UM, SO ONCE I HEAR BACK FROM THEM ON WHAT THAT, UM, PAD WILL COST AND THAT'LL GIVE ME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE DIRECTION TO GO IN. UM, I AM GOING TO LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION GRANTS, UM, FOR THOSE KINDS OF AMENITIES. UH, I'VE FOUND A COUPLE OF RESURFACING GRANTS LIKE I USED, UH, FOR THE TENNIS COURTS, BUT I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. UM, NOW THE RE THE, THE, UH, RESURFACING WOULD BE GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, COTTONWOOD AND CLOUD. AND, UM, I WILL LOOK INTO THOSE AS WELL, JUST DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH OF A MATCH IT REQUIRES, BECAUSE ANYTHING I PUT TOWARDS THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, UP NORTH, BUT THE SPOT WOULD BE, UH, IF YOU'RE AT THE AMPHITHEATER AND I'LL, I'LL SEND THE ARIEL TO, UH, VINCE AS WELL, SO HE CAN SEND IT OUT. BUT IF YOU'RE AT THE AMPHITHEATER AND YOU LOOK WHERE THE RESTROOM BUILDING IS, THERE'S THAT NICE FLAT AREA BEHIND IT. AND I THINK THE GRAY DROP IS LESS THAN TWO FOOT THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE AREA. UM, SO, UM, STEVE, OVER THERE, WHEN HE FIRST LOOKED AT, IT SAID, IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, PUT IN THEIR LEVEL AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TOO MUCH OF A LIP ON ONE SIDE AND BURIED IN THE OTHER. IT'LL PUT THE PAD ABOUT EIGHT FEET OFF OF [00:35:01] THE EXISTING WALK PATH. SO WE WILL PUT A WALK PATH TO CONNECT. AND IT ALSO PUTS IT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE AQUATIC CENTER. SO ON, YOU KNOW, REST BREAK OR WHATEVER, IF KIDS WANTED TO GO OUT AND GET THEIR HAND STAMPED, GO PLAY SOME BASKETBALL. UM, I SEE IT AS A WAY TO POSSIBLY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT DOWNTIME DRAMA THAT HAPPENS. UM, YOU KNOW, SO GIVE HIM SOMETHING TO DO IN THAT AREA. AND YOU MAY HAVE SOME KIDS THAT GO SWIM FOR A LITTLE BIT. THEY GO PLAY BASKETBALL FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS, THEN COME BACK AND COOL OFF AND THEN GO HOME. SO, UM, BUT I THINK HAVING IT UP THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE A GOOD SPOT. IT OPENS IT UP TO WHERE IF THE Y NEEDS IT FOR ANYTHING. UM, WE MAY LOOK AT RUNNING SOME ELECTRIC OVER THERE HAVING SOME OUTLETS ON THE POLES. SO IF WE DO HAVE FITNESS CLASSES THAT WANT TO GO OVER THERE, THEY GOT SOMEWHERE TO PLUG IN A STEREO OR WHATEVER. SO I THINK ALL TOGETHER IT'LL BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE UP THERE. SO THE TOTAL DIMENSION WAS A HUNDRED BY 120. SO IT LOOKED LIKE THE COURT MEASUREMENTS I SAW WERE, UM, I THINK IT WAS 90. I FORGET WHAT THE 96 BY 55 OR SOMETHING. WELL, THIS WAS, THIS WAS BIGGER THAN HIGH SCHOOL DIMENSIONS. THIS WAS, I DON'T KNOW. I WAS JUST GOING OFF OF, WHEN I, WHEN I TYPED AN OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURT, IT POPPED UP AND SAID, YOU KNOW, YOUR BACKYARD COURT IS TYPICALLY THIS DIMENSION, UH, NBA COURT IS THIS DIMENSION AND IT OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T NEED TO BE THAT BIG. UM, SO I THINK THE, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT A HUNDRED, LIKE I SAID, THE A HUNDRED, IT WOULD'VE BEEN 94 BY 50. I THINK IT WAS THEN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US. OKAY. SO MAYBE THE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE SIZE WAS IN COLLEGE SIZE. YEAH. AND THEN LOOKING AT THE GOALS AND STUFF TOO, I MEAN, JUST THE BASIC, YOU KNOW, ARCH BACK. LIKE WE HAVE EVERYWHERE ELSE WITH THE FIBERGLASS BOARD AND THE, AND THE BREAKAWAY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROBABLY FROM WHAT I WAS FIRST SEEING ONLINE ABOUT TWO GRAND A PIECE. SO, UM, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMETHING UP THERE. THE BIGGEST THING IS I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING SOMEBODY WHO PAINTS BASKETBALL COURTS. I FIND PEOPLE LIKE DOOM INDOORS. I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY THAT DOES THEM OUTDOORS YET. UM, AND EVEN THE TENNIS GUYS ARE LIKE, YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THE DIMENSIONS FOR THAT. AND YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR BIGGEST HURDLE. I HAVE NO TRACK IN MY BRAIN. I THINK FROM A OUTDOOR SCIENCE SALVATION ARMY HAS A VERY NICE COURT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF SERVICE SAYS THAT HAS TO HAVE REGULAR MAINTENANCE THAT THEY MAKE KNOWS WHATEVER COMPANY HERE IN TOWN OR WHEREVER THEY'RE FROM. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD LEAD TO SEE WHO THEY USE. BUT THAT QUARTER THERE'S A LOT OVER THE YEARS I WAS DRAWING A BLANK BECAUSE IT'S, AS A REMINDER, WORK IS NOT SOMETHING WE TALKED A LITTLE SHORT, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS IN. YEAH. WE WERE TALK ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE. THE THREE ARE, WHO IS THE TAKING IT TO THE HOOP GUY. WHAT'S THAT GUY'S NAME FLYING TO THE HOOPS. YEAH. I COULDN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME TO SEARCH MY EMAIL THE OTHER DAY. CAUSE I'VE SPOKE WITH HIM BEFORE HE WAS ULTIMATELY WHO I WAS HOPING TO GET AHOLD OF THAT COULD POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO IT'S COMPANY BY TRADE IS VIDEO BOARDS AND SCOREBOARDS. SO HE WOULD, I, YOU GAVE HIM A CONNECTION. YEP. I'VE GOT IS UH, I KNOW I'VE EMAILED HER BEFORE. I JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME TO EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SEARCH. SO CUT. UM, ALONG WITH THAT, YEAH. WAGNER ALREADY SAID THEY WOULD DO A MINIMUM OF 12 INCHES OF GRAVEL. YEAH. YUP, YUP. YEAH. WAGNER IS THE ONE WHO GOT THE CONTRACT FOR THE PARKING LOT AT CLOUD, THE PARKING LOT AT RIP RAP. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING, UM, THE PARKING LOT AT THE SKATE PARK. YEAH, THEY DO. THEY, UM, EVERY, ANYTHING I PUT OUT FOR BID, GENERALLY THEY COME BACK THE LOWEST WITH THE BEST QUALITY SPEC. UM, SO I USUALLY JUST REACH OUT TO THEM FIRST TO LET THEM KIND OF SET THE, SET THE BAR AND THEN WE REACH OUT FROM THERE. SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JOSH? OKAY. NEXT AGENDA ITEM. HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER? OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE MEETING MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? [00:40:01] MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER NINE, UPCOMING UPCOMING MEETINGS. SO OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON JANUARY 20TH, 2022 AT 6:30 PM. AND IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:12 AM ADJOURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.