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AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING THIS AS IF YOU WERE HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, REGULAR SESSION.
AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT 7:00 PM.
UH, THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY
[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]
CALLED TO ORDER AND I'M NUMBER TWO ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR INVOCATION THIS EVENING BY RABBI LABEL, THE GAR OF THE BETH JACOB SYNAGOGUE AT 70 20 NORTH MAIN STREET IN DAYTON, OHIO, HEAVENLY FATHER GRANT, BLESSING TO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ASSEMBLE IN THIS HOLY ROOM, GUIDE THEIR DISCUSSIONS, LET THEIR DISCUSSIONS BE FOR THE SAKE OF HEAVEN.LET THEIR DISCUSSIONS BE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THOSE WHOM THEY REPRESENT, BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR PARENTS, AND THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR SPOUSES, AND ALL THAT IS THEIRS.
MAY OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, GRANT THEM THEIR DUE REWARD AND GRANT THEM FULL SUCCESS AND THEIR HOLY MISSION OF GUIDING THE CITY INJUSTICE IN PEACE AND IN TRUTH.
MR. ROGERS, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? MR. SHAW, MS. BAKER, MR. CAMPBELL, MRS. BERGE, MR. OTTO, MR. LYONS HERE, MR. HILL HERE.
AND MR. AUTO, MR. SHAW AND MR. CAMPBELL HAVE REQUESTED THEIR ABSENCES BE, UH, APPROVED THIS EVENING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ABSENCES MR. HILL EXCUSE AND MR. WEB.
THERE WAS A MOTION A SECOND TO EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF MR. SHAW.
UM, MR. ROGERS CALLED THE ROLL PLEASE.
EACH OF THOSE ABSENCES ARE APPROVED.
AND NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
UH, THERE ARE TWO OTHER, I'M SORRY.
THERE WERE NO MINUTES FOR APPROVAL AT THIS MEETING.
AND NEXT IS NUMBER SIX, SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS ANNOUNCEMENTS.
FIRST OFF WE HAVE, UH, ITEM SIX,
[ Mayoral Proclamation Presentation To Mrs. Lu Dale – Mayor Jeff Gore]
A MAYORAL PROCLAMATION PRESENTATION TO MRS. LOU DALE, UH, BY MAYOR JEFF MOORE.MRS. DALE, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT TO JOIN THE MAIN I THINK THE GUY FOR DIRECTIONS.
IF YOU WANT TO WAIT THROUGH THE OTHER PRESIDENT, I'VE HEARD OF SAY, WELL, WE LOST WE'LL JUST GO BACK HOME.
WELL, IT HAS VIDEO RECORDED, SO IT CAN BE SEEN ON VIDEO TOMORROW.
JUST ONE MINUTE YOU SHOULDN'T GET MANAGER.
SO THIS EVENING WE HAVE A SENIOR PEOPLE HEIGHTS, MY OLD PROCLAMATION AND THE SPECIAL RECOGNITION AGAIN FOR THE SPECIAL ISSUE FOR SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT.
SO WHEREAS THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS WISHES TO EXPRESS ITS SINCERE APPRECIATION
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FOR THE DEDICATED, DISTINGUISHED LIFELONG SERVICE TO DALE AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY, YOU SAID IT'S AN ACTION CONDITION.AND WE'RE ASKED MRS. DALE RETIRED FROM THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS.
SO 32 YEARS OF SERVICE WAS CHAIR OF THE Y THE MORE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELING DEPARTMENT CREATED THE DR.
MARTIN LUTHER KING HOLIDAY CELEBRATION FOR HUBER HEIGHTS CREATED HERITAGE PROGRAMS. THEN YOU WRITE TO THESE SCHOOLS, ORGANIZE THE BLACK AWARENESS CLUB UNDER RACIAL DURESS, TALKED AND COUNSELED IN EUROPE FOR 10 YEARS AT THE KAISERSLAUTERN AMERICAN HIGH SCHOOL IN GERMANY, AND SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS BOARD OF EDUCATION.
AND WHEREAS MRS. DALE IS CERTIFIED IN RACE RELATIONS, RECEIVED A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE FROM CENTRAL STATE UNIVERSITY AND A MASTER OF ARTS DEGREE FROM BALL, STATE UNIVERSITY AND COMPLETED POST-GRADUATE WORK AT WRIGHT STATE UNIVERSITY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF DATE AND GRASS.
MRS. DALE SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THE HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTING WARD ONE FROM JANUARY, 2012, THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2015, SERVED AS THE CITY'S FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN VICE MAYOR IN 2015 AND WAS DYNAMIC LEADER AND INTEGRAL PART OF NUMEROUS ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE CITY, IF YOU WILL.
AND NOW THEREFORE I, JEFF GORDON BARRETT TO SEE IF HE WRITES TO HEREBY EXTEND OUR VERY BEST WISHES FOR HEALTH HAPPINESS.
HE CONTINUED SUCCESS, AND THIS WAS BLUE DATE WILL BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS RECOGNITION IS SEALED BY PRESENTING TO THIS ART INDIVIDUAL, A KEY TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AS A TOKEN OF OUR ESTEEM AND WITNESSED BY PIER TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY ROADS TO BE FIXED THIS 22ND DAY OF NOVEMBER IN THE YEAR OF OUR OR 2000 OKAY.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, I'M CERTAINLY GIVING YOU SOME TIME.
WELL, I'M JUST, I REALLY AM JUST HONORED THAT YOU EVEN THOUGHT OF ME, UM, AND TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO THIS, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL AT ALL TO THE COUNCIL AND ALL THE MEMBERS AND ALL OF THESE GOOD PEOPLE THAT I KNOW SITTING UP HERE AND ALL OF MY FRIENDS OUT HERE, I COULDN'T BE, I COULDN'T HAVE DONE ANY OF WHAT I DID WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT.
ALL, ALL OF THEM OUT HERE HAVE SUPPORTED ME.
I WANT US TO WORK HARD TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
MA'AM I WANT US, MAY I ASKED IF ANY, ANYBODY OUT HERE WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE? AND IF YOU WANT TO AIM UP HERE, YOU CAN, THE MICROPHONE'S OVER.
I JUST WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE COUPA, HIGHEST CULTURE AND DIVERSITY SYSTEM, ACTUALLY COMMISSION, WE WERE STILL HAPPY.
SO, AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF DELTA, BUT, UM, YOU'VE BEEN OFF TO THIS CITY.
I MEAN, WE HEARD ALL OF YOUR, NOT ALL, BUT JUST A FEW OF YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND YOU HAVE BEEN SO IMPACTFUL IN THIS CITY, AND WE KNOW AND KNEW THAT IT WAS UP HERE, THAT YOU RECOGNIZE ONE THING TO THAT, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOLD THAT COMMUNITY.
YOU'VE BEEN A VOICE FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDENTS WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
YOU'VE BEEN A VOICE FOR US AS RESIDENTS.
AND WE SO APPRECIATE THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGED THAT.
IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL, I'VE BEEN SURFING SINCE 1997 AND SHE
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SAID, I WON'T SAY WHAT SHE'S SAYING.YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID, BUT IF IT WASN'T FOR HER AND HER ENVIRONMENT IN THE CITY, UH, I WOULDN'T BE HERE, UM, TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND GET OTHER FOLKS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHO HAS HAD A SERIOUS IMPACT ON MY LIFE AND MY FAMILY LIFE.
AND WE BELIEVE IN GIVING FLOWERS BEFORE YOU GO MEET JASON.
AND SO I AM VERY HAPPY THAT THE CITY DECIDED WITH THE COMMISSION TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE IMPACTED, YOU GOT PEOPLE THERE THAT WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL HERE, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THEY GROWN NOW AND GOT KIDS.
YOU HAVE TO GET A SERIOUS IMPACT ON ALL OF US IN HERE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT COLOR.
EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT AND BULLY ME INTO
WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, WE'RE GOING TO STEAL ANYTHING THAT WE DO IN THE CITY OF CLEVELAND HEIGHTS.
WE'RE DOING IT IN A MEMORABLE YOU, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER CLOSER, WE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU ALL, WE ARE STANDING ON YOUR SHOULDERS REGARDLESS OF HOW THE CDB SOMETIME, AND WE MIGHT NOT GET WHAT WE WANT TO GET, BUT YOU, WE ARE STANDING ON YOUR SHOULDERS.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS YOU OR MAKE YOU COME BACK WHEREVER YOU AT
WE DON'T DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE YOU PROUD OF US TO KEEP JUST SITTING ON I AGREE WITH WHAT SHE WAS SAYING WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT OVERBEARING AND PUSHING.
BECAUSE WHEN I SEE POTENTIAL, I DON'T BACK UP ON THE FIRST WHEEL BREAKFAST BEGAN.
I HAD, UM, ONE OF THEM AND THEY UP THERE BACKING UP ON ME ON STAGE.
AND I WAS A PRESIDENT OF THE BLACK AWARENESS.
AND I USED TO GO TO THE OFFICE A LOT, A LOT, A LOT, A LOT, A LOT.
I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON HER COUCH, VENTING, YOU KNOW, THAT PRE-TEEN TEENAGE STUFF.
UM, AND I TELL YOU WHAT NOW, YOU KNOW, GRADUATED COLLEGE GRADUATED.
UM, AND NOW I HAVE FIVE KIDS, SO I'M SUPER BUSY.
AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU GET LIKE PULLED INTO YOUR LIFE AND FORGET.
AND SO SOMEONE WILL ASK ME TO DO STUFF.
I SAID, WELL, I GOT THINGS TO DO, BUT WHAT I FIND OUT MS. DALE WAS ASKING, OH, I GOT TIME.
SO WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, I SAID, OH, THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE THAT I'LL BE.
AND WHATEVER YOU NEED ME, AND YOU CALL ME THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE FOR YOUR IMPACT.
I KNOW EVERY NEW INCREASE HER WAR
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I THINK SHE HAD SOMEONE TAKING PICTURES.
I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST HAVE YOU READ THIS
THEY HAD ORIGINALLY WANTED THE COMMISSION TO DO IT FIRST.
THEY WANTED THE COMMISSION FIRST.
ON THE COUNT OF THREE GUYS, 1, 2, 3.
AND NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER SIX,
[ Huber Heights Ordinance Review Commission Final Report Presentation - Huber Heights Ordinance Review Commission]
BEAT ITEM SIX, B THE HEBREW HEIGHTS ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION, FINAL REPORT PRESENTATION BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION AND CHAIR JIM ELLIS.THIS IS NOT FAIR HAVING TO FOLLOW THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OF THE REPORT AND WE'LL TRY TO GET THIS THING WORKING HERE.
YOU KNOW, WHY IS THERE AN ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSIONED IN THE FIRST PLACE? UM, THE HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY CHARTER REQUIRES THAT THE COUNCIL APPOINT A COMMISSION EVERY 10 YEARS TO REVIEW ALL OF THE ORDINANCES THAT THIS, UH, THE CITY HAS ENACTED FROM THE DAY ONE.
AND SO, UM, OUR TASK WAS TO LOOK AT EACH ORDINANCE, DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT ANY CHANGES WERE NEEDED, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS
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THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE THE COUNCIL.AND WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING THE LAST YEAR OF THAT.
UM, IN THAT PROCESS, WE WOULD MEET ABOUT ONCE A MONTH AND, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE WITHIN A YEAR OF OUR APPOINTMENT.
AND WE WERE APPOINTED ON OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.
UM, OUR ACTIVITY WAS THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION, UM, MEMBERS WERE SELECTED FROM JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2020.
WE HELD OUR FIRST ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING ON OCTOBER 21ST, 2020.
UM, WE THEN WHERE YOU REVIEWED THE PROCEDURES FROM THE 20 10, 20 11, UM, COMMISSION TO SEE IF WE WANTED TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY OR DO THINGS, UH, BASICALLY THE SAME, UH, WE ESTABLISHED A REVIEW APPROACH AND THAT REVIEW WAS, WE, UH, WOULD BREAK DOWN ON THE, UH, THE CODE IN VARIOUS SECTIONS.
WE WOULD THEN LOOK AT EACH, EACH SECTION, EACH ONE OF US AND BRING OUR INPUT AND OUR THOUGHTS BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, WE THEN WOULD, UH, ADDRESS THE INPUT FROM EVERYONE, CONSOLIDATE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN SUBMIT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.
AND WE HELD OUR LAST MEETING ON OCTOBER 20TH, 2021.
SO WE MET OUR ONE YEAR, UM, REQUIREMENT, UM, IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE REVIEW FINDINGS.
UM, WE LOOKED AT EACH OF THE VARIOUS PARTS OF THE CODE AND WE REVIEWED VARIOUS, UH, WELL, WE REVIEWED EVERY CODE SECTION SOME REQUIRED, AND WE THOUGHT WOULD BENEFIT FROM SOME MODIFICATION, SOME UPDATING, UH, AND IN SOME CASES, SOME REMOVAL, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, UM, SLIDE THAT, UH, THE PART ONE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND PART NINE, THE STREETS AND PUBLIC SERVICES CODE HAD THE MOST RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF A COMMITTEE, UH, TO COUNSEL.
UM, UH, AND THEN UNDER THE RECORD, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 81 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ORDINANCES WITH VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AS A RESULT OF THE RECOMMENDATION SUBMITTED BY THE COMMISSION.
THREE ADDITIONAL ORDINANCES WITH VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN THE REVIEW PROCESS.
AND THE VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PART 11 PLANNING AND ZONING CODE HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND ADOPTION, UH, AS FAR AS REQUIRED.
UM, WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE WHAT WE DID WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF STAFF.
AND THESE WERE THE VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS, UH, THAT, UM, PROVIDED INPUT AND RECOMMENDATION AND EXPLANATION TO THE VARIOUS CODE SECTIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AS WE WENT THROUGH, UM, WAS PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ANTHONY ROGERS, TONY, HIS CLERK OF COUNCIL MADE THIS JOB VERY, VERY EASY, UH, WITHOUT HIS ORGANIZATIONAL SKILLS, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FLOUNDERING AROUND.
AND I WOULDN'T BE STANDING HERE WITH A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO SHOW A LOVE YOU PEOPLE.
SO FROM THE COMMISSION REALLY APPRECIATED EVERYTHING THAT TONY DID FOR US AND KAREN AS WELL.
UM, WHEN WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE WORK THAT TONY DOES UPFRONT, KAREN DOES BEHIND THE SCENES.
SO, UM, UH, THANK HER VERY MUCH AS, UM, AND AGAIN, SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO, TO TONY.
UM, I WAS THE CHAIR, GLENN OTTO WAS THE VICE CHAIR AND HE FILLED IN FOR ME ON A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT I HAD TO MISS.
AND, UH, UH, THIS WAS MY THIRD TIME DOING THIS.
SO I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS WHEN HE USED TO ADD 10 YEARS, 10 YEARS, 10 YEARS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE HAD VALUABLE INSIGHTS OR NOT, BUT I'VE HAD MORE INSIGHTS THAN MOST.
SO, UM, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A PLEASURE, UH, DOING IT THIS TIME.
UM, AND THESE ARE THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION MEET THE MEMBERS MYSELF AS THE CHAIR, GLENN OTTO, VICE-CHAIR JONATHAN FANON, JOE HENDRIX, BRIAN KITCHEN, WHICH I BELIEVE BRIAN'S THERE.
UM, JERRY WAMSLEY AND DON WEBB, WHO IS ON COUNCIL, UH, GLEN AND DON WERE THE, UH, UH, COUNCIL LIAISON INDIVIDUALS, UH, ON, ON THE COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH REALLY HELPED A LOT BECAUSE THERE WERE SEVERAL TIMES WHERE THINGS WE WERE DISCUSSING EITHER HAD BEEN, OR WERE COMING UP BEFORE COUNCIL TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE
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US, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THESE MEETINGS THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE OTHERWISE HAD, HAD THEY NOT BEEN ON COUNCIL ON THE COMMISSION.UH, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE IT, I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, WE WOULD PRESENT OUR FINAL REPORT.
UH, THERE'S AN APPENDIX TO THE ACTUAL REPORT WITH EVERY ORDINANCE THAT WE REVIEWED AND EVERY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MADE, UH, WHICH IS, I THINK IS PART OF THE FINAL REPORT REPORT THAT'S BEING PRESENTED.
SO, UH, SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME OR BRIAN, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? NO.
SO AT THIS POINT I PRESENT THE REPORT.
SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THANK YOU, JIM.
I JUST CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE ORDINARY COMMISSION.
I KNOW THAT WAS, UM, SOME FASCINATING DISCUSSIONS, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN, YOU KNOW, ALL JOKING ASIDE, I KNOW THAT'S A, IT'S A VERY SERIOUS JOB AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND, UH, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION AGAIN.
SO, SO THANK YOU, UH, MR. KITCHEN, BRIAN, APPRECIATE YOU SERVING ON THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
UH, MR. RADO, WASN'T HERE, BUT FOR, UH, GLENN AND FOR DON, THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN FOR THE TIME AND THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO, INTO THOSE MEETINGS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT TONY HAD SOMETHING HE PRESENTED TO US IN A WAY THAT COUNCIL COULD CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT CHANGES WERE BEING RECOMMENDED OR, OR, UM, NEEDED TO BE CHANGED.
SO, UH, TO ALL OF YOU HERE, WHO SERVED, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND JIM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PRESENTING THIS EVENING.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, I CAN REMEMBER JUST BRIEFLY.
I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT AS A COMMISSION MEMBER AND AS A COUNCIL PERSON, I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED THE GUIDANCE AND THE LEADERSHIP THROUGH THIS YEAR.
UM, THE BEST THING I CAN SAY ABOUT JIM ELLIS AS OUR CHAIR WAS THAT YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK AND YOU CAME PREPARED AND KEPT US ON TRACK.
UM, YOU DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB LEADING THIS COMMITTEE OVER A YEAR, AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE.
SO TONY, IF YOU WOULD READ ITEMS, ITEM
[ Huber Heights Ordinance Review Commission Mayoral Proclamation Presentation - Mayor Jeff Gore]
SIX C HUBER HEIGHTS ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION MARROW PROCLAMATION PRESENTATION BY A MIRROR, JEFF COURSE.SO WE'D ASKED THE MEMBERS PRESENT FROM THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION TO JOIN AMERICORPS UPFRONT.
SO THIS IS A SUPER HIGH-TECH MAYORAL PROCLAMATION FOR SPECIAL RECOGNITION.
WHEREAS A HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT LEAST EVERY 10 YEARS PER THE CITY CHARTER TO REVIEW THE CITY CODE, ANY OTHER ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS OF THE CITY.
AND WHEREAS THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION TAKES MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN ELIMINATION OR REVISION OF PROVISIONS OF THE CITY CODE.
IN OTHER WORDS, DUNCES OR RESOLUTIONS, WHICH MAY HAVE OUTLIVED THEIR USEFULNESS OR PRACTICALITY.
AND WHEREAS THE WORK OF THE MEMBERS OF THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION AND THE CITY STAFF TO THIS PROCESS HAS RESULTED IN SUBSTANTIAL AND SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY CODE THAT WILL ENHANCE THE PROVISIONS OF CITY SERVICES AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND HUMAN RIGHTS.
AND WE'RE ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE RIGHTS WISHES TO EXPRESS IT SINCERE APPRECIATION AND THE DEDICATED VOLUNTEER SERVICE AND THE MEMBERS OF THE ORCHESTRA OF THE COMMISSION IN OCTOBER, 2020 THROUGH OCTOBER, 2021.
NOW, THEREFORE I, JEFF WARREN MAYOR TO SEE IF HE WRITES YOU HEREBY EXTEND OUR VARIOUS DESTINATIONS FOR HEALTH HAPPINESS CONTINUED SUCCESS.
THE JIM ELLIS, JONATHAN VAN, JOSEPH HENDRIX, GRAND KITCHEN, AND GLEN AUTO JERRY WAMSLEY, DON BEING FURTHER OR FALL IN THIS RECOGNITION OF THE SEAL BY PRESENTING THESE AREN'T INDIVIDUALS, THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS COIN AS A TOKEN AND WITNESS ROW BY APPEARANCE TO SET MY HAND AND CALLS THE SEAL OF THE CITY PEOPLE RIGHTS.
SO YOU FIX THIS 22ND DAY OF NUMBER OF NEW YEAR, 2000.
AS, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, YOU KNOW, THIS CITY JUST SIMPLY WOULD NOT FUNCTION WITHOUT, UM, THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAVE.
AND, UM, YOU WILL NOT ONLY AGAIN FOR, FOR YOU GUYS WITH THE EXTRA TIME THAT MR. READ MR. OTTO PUT FORTH AS WELL.
INDIVIDUAL PROCLAMATION FOR JIM THAT'S YOURS.
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OKAY.EXCEPT AS I, NUMBER SEVEN CITIZENS
[7. Citizens Comments]
COMMENT, UH, WE JUST HAVE ONE THIS EVENING.IF YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PHOTO ANITA KITCHEN, 62 18 ALTAR ROAD.
UM, I JUST BEEN LOOKING AT THE AGENDA.
I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY LAST WEEK AT THE WORK SESSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROPERTY AT KEY BANK.
AND TAYLOR'S, I'M SORRY, AT CHAMBERSBURG AND OLD TROY, THAT AREA IS IMPLODING WITH WATER MAIN BREAKS.
AND TO PUT ANOTHER THING RIGHT NOW ON THERE, I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO ASK FOR MORE PROBLEMS. SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY FOR RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SAYING DITCH IT FOREVER, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, UNTIL THOSE PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED, LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND.
WAS I NUMBER EIGHT CITIZENS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS. THEY'RE NOT ASSUMING MIRROR.
[9. City Manager Report]
NINE IS OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT, RIGHT? THANK YOU, SIR.JUST A FEW BRIEF ITEMS FOR COUNCIL THIS EVENING.
UH, FIRST, UH, JUST WANTED TO, UM, NOTE THE SUCCESS OF THE MINETA IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, OVER THE WEEKEND WE HAD A APPROXIMATELY 300 OR SO FOLKS SHOW UP TO, UH, TO THE PARK TO ENJOY THE AMENITIES AND, AND CELEBRATE THEIR OPENING AND AVAILABILITY TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT WAS QUITE THE SUCCESS.
UH, SPEAKING OF SUCCESS, UH, THE HEBREW HEIGHTS POLICE DEPARTMENT RECENTLY, UH, WAS NOTIFIED OF THEIR SUCCESS ON A GRANT.
UH, THEY HAD SUBMITTED FOR, UH, FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR OUR NINE 11 UPGRADES.
SO IT'S ABOUT $112,000 PROJECT, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SECURE, UH, $67,700 TOWARDS OFFSET IN THE EXPENSE OF THAT PROJECT.
SO JUST OVER, I THINK IT'S PUSHING 60% AND THEN I'M SPEAKING OF REVENUES INTO THE CITY.
UH, WE DO HAVE OUR PRELIMINARY, UH, NET PROFIT PROJECTION FROM THE ROWS, AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING $1.1 MILLION IN NET PROFITS FROM THIS YEAR'S OPERATION OF THE ROSE.
SO, UH, SHORT AND SWEET TONIGHT, UM, NOTHING BUT GOOD NEWS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WITH THAT, UH, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
ANY, UH, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT UP IS OUR NUMBER TENDONS PENDING BUSINESS TONIGHT BY
[ An Ordinance Amending Certain Sections Of Part Nine, Streets And Public Services Code, Of The City Code Of Huber Heights. (second reading)]
THEM TEN EIGHT, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS, A PART NINE STREETS AND PUBLIC SERVICES CODE OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS AT THE SECOND READING AND MR. ROGERS COMMENTS.UH, THIS IS WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION.
THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PART NINE.
I WENT OVER THESE AT A RECENT COUNCIL WORK SESSION IN MORE DETAIL.
UH, THEY ARE AT THE SECOND READING AND THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE THIS EVENING.
AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A MOTION MR. BERGE FOR A SECOND, MR. HILL SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS? OKAY.
[ An Ordinance For Making Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2022 And Ending December 31, 2022. (second reading)]
BEAT ITEM 10 B AN ORDINANCE FOR MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF FEW RIGHTS OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2022, AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2022 AT THE SECOND READING AND WRITE COMMENTS.SO IF A COUNCIL RECALLED CONVERSATION FROM JUST LAST WEEK, UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, THAT STAFF WILL LOOK TO IDENTIFY, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT WE COULD PUT INTO ADDRESSING THE UTILITY ISSUE.
UH, AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO THAT.
UH, WE'VE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY WORK ALREADY AND WE'VE, UH, WE FOUND SOME SIX FIGURES WORTH OF ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK AS PART OF, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE FINAL ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET, UNLESS THIS IS A MEASURE THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER TONIGHT AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES VIA SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION AT A FUTURE MEETING.
UH, BUT, UH, THAT IS AGAIN AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.
SO, UH, AGAIN, WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE, UH, THE REQUEST AND THE DEMAND, AND, UH, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
SO RYAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IN SIX FIGURES, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF AN IDEA OF ABOUT WHAT KIND OF EXTRA EXPENSE AND THIS WOULD BE ON TOP OF THE MILLION DOLLARS WE HAD ALREADY HAD? CORRECT.
SO, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS IN THE WATER RESERVE FUND, GUARANTEEING A LOAN, WHICH WE'VE BEEN PAYING DOWN OVER TIME.
SO WHEN WE WENT BACK AND REVIEWED, UH, THE, UM, THE RESERVE REQUIREMENTS, WE WERE ABLE
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TO RELEASE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FROM, UH, FROM THE RESERVE.SO WE'LL BE ADDING APPROXIMATELY $400,000 TO THE ACTUAL WE'LL CALL IT CONSTRUCTION OR, UH, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN WE WOULD UTILIZE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THAT MONEY TO FUND THE STUDY, UH, THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, AT THE WORK SESSION TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, KIND OF GET THAT MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ADDITIONALLY, WE WENT BACK WITH RESPECT TO ONGOING REVENUES.
WE WENT BACK AND WE LOOKED AT, UM, THE WATER AND SEWER FUNDS AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN PERFORMING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
WHAT WE NOTICED WAS THAT THE SUPERFUND HAS BEEN RUNNING A $600,000 PROFIT FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS, UH, SINCE THAT TIME PERIOD.
AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY ANALYZING, UM, UH, RATES CHANGE, IF YOU WILL, TO LOWER THE SEWER RATE IN INCREASE THE WATER RATE TO TRANSITION THOSE REVENUES FROM THE SEWER FUND TO THE WATER FUND, SO THAT, UH, WE WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE UTILITY SYSTEM WITHOUT INCREASING ANY EXPENSE TO THE RESIDENTS.
SO THIS WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY A NET NEUTRAL EXERCISE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE'VE ASKED, UH, OUR FRIENDS OVER AT SUEZ AND IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR HIGH USERS, SOME OF OUR LOW USERS AND SOME OF OUR MID USERS, AND ENSURE THAT OUR THEORY, UH, THAT THIS WOULD BE A COST NEUTRAL NET NEUTRAL FOR OUR RESIDENTS, UM, IS, IS GOING TO PROVE PLAUSIBLE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AT THE MOMENT.
WE'RE ALSO PULLING TOGETHER THE INFORMATION THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED WITH RESPECT TO SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE MONEY SUCH AS FUND BALANCE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE AREA OF, UH, GRANT MONIES OR FEDERAL ASSISTANCE THAT'S COME IN.
SO AARP HAS BEEN, UH, A BIG TOP.
SO, UH, WE'RE, WE ARE PREPARING TO HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND A PRESENTATION ON, UH, THE 7TH OF DECEMBER.
UH, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO IDENTIFY SOME OTHER ISSUES AND CONCERNS, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, TEMPORARY BUDGET VERSUS PERMANENT BUDGET.
SO BASED ON, UH, THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL GAVE THAT WE WOULD ONLY PASS A TEMPORARY BUDGET FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES FOR THE FIRST 90 DAYS, UH, WE'VE COME ACROSS SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
SO, UH, ONE FOR INSTANCE, WOULD BE THE PURCHASE OF A NEW LADDER TRUCK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OPERATIONS BUDGET ONLY.
WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS PURCHASE.
AND AS A RESULT, WE WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE THE COST OF THE ENGINE BY, OR BY THE LADDER BY APPROXIMATELY $165,000.
UM, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO ARE DELAYS WOULD PUSH, UM, NOT HAVING CAPITAL AVAILABLE IN JANUARY WOULD PUSH SEVERAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, UH, TO THE POINT WHERE WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE SCHEDULED.
SO CONTRACTORS ARE BIDDING THEIR WORK IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WOULD EVEN BE BIDDING AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS.
SO, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO ANALYZE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION ON DECEMBER SEVEN.
SO, UH, WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE ON THIS ONE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING THROUGH BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
SO WE'RE, I WOULD SAY, SO WE HAD A RECOGNITION OF THE WORK SESSION IN THE PAST TIME TO A THIRD READING.
UM, I THINK THE BIG REASON THAT WE HAD ASKED TO MOVE IT TO A THIRD READING WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EXTRA MONEY AT THAT TIME.
NOTHING WAS NOTHING AT THE WORK SESSION PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED MORE DAUGHTER, MORE DOLLARS TO THE WATERLINE PROJECT.
SO, UM, SO I W I WOULD JUST ASK COUNSEL ISN'T AN ADDITIONAL HALF, A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, ALLOCATED TO THE WATER LINING PROJECT FOR NEXT YEAR.
ON TOP OF THE MILLION THAT WE HAVE, IS THAT AN, IS THAT ENOUGH, UM, WORK AT THIS POINT TO CAPACITY TO PASS THE BUDGET THIS EVENING, AND THEN WORK OFF OF ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL THAT WE MAY NEED MOVING INTO THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
SO, UM, SO WE, UH, WE HAVE THAT OPTION TO EITHER PASS A BUDGET THIS EVENING OR MOVE TO A THIRD READING, BUT, UM, AT LEAST PART OF THAT TASK HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY KNOWING THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED ANOTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE WATERLINE PROJECT FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO ANY OF YOU, TO EITHER A MOTION TO MOVE IT ON TO A SECOND READING OR A MOTION TO PASS.
AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO.
UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, BRIAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE STAFF AND THE HARD WORK AND DILIGENCE THEY PUT IN TO BRING US ANOTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, MAYOR WITH, UH, THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS OUT TONIGHT.
UM, I THINK I WOULD JUST FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE HAD CLOSER TO A FULL COUNCIL AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS TAKING THIS TO A THIRD READING.
I KNOW WE ALSO DISCUSSED ABOUT, UH, TABLING THIS, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF NOT HAVING A TEMPORARY BUDGET IN PLACE, UH, BRIAN, DO YOU THINK THAT TEMPORARY BUDGET WILL BE AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING A WORK SESSION COUNCIL
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MEETING IN DECEMBER AT THIS POINT IN TIME? UM, WE ARE PREPARING TO BRING FORWARD A PERMANENT BUDGET FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION ON THE SEVENTH FOR ADOPTION ON THE 13TH.SO BASICALLY WHAT WOULD BE A REVISION TO THIS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR NEXT YEAR, THE $300,000 AND ONGOING REVENUES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL COST INCREASES OR, UM, WE'LL CALL IT, UM, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF AN OPERATIONS BUDGET ONLY MAKES SENSE FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE TO BRING FORWARD A FULL BUDGET FOR ADOPTION ON THE 13TH PRIME EXAMPLE IS THE WATER LINING PROJECT ITSELF FOR 2022, AS IT'S CURRENTLY FUNDED AT A MILLION DOLLARS, IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ENGAGE SUEZ IN A CONTRACT BY THE END OF JANUARY, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE OUR PROJECT IN 2022 BASED ON THE MEETING WE HAD WITH THEM ON THURSDAY LAST WEEK.
UM, SO MAYOR WITH THAT INFORMATION, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WAS AT THE, I ATTENDED THE WORK SESSION.
I HEARD THE DISCUSSION, UH, I WOULD JUST FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE TAKING THIS TO A THIRD READING WHERE WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL THE NEXT, UM, WHEN THE NEXT WORK SESSION IT'LL GIVE STAFF MORE TIME TO WORK ON THOSE ISSUES.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'M POINTING THIS TONIGHT.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
UM, BRIAN, UM, WE ARE GETTING A, UH, A PRETTY NICE AMOUNT FROM OUR GAS TAX.
WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT MONEY? SO THE GAS TAX ARE DOLLARS THAT ARE EARMARKED FOR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES RELATED TO PUBLIC WORKS OR SUPPORT.
WE'LL CALL IT MORE NOMINAL, VALUED, UM, IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE CITY IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY GOES FOR STREETS.
THERE ARE, YES, THERE IS THE ADDITIONAL GAS TAX MONEY THAT CAME IN, UH, LAST YEAR THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TOWARDS THE LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
SO IF IT'S ALLOCATED FOR THE STRAIGHT DEPARTMENTS, THEN THAT IS MONEY.
WE DID NOT HAVE IN THE PAST AND HAD TO USE OTHER MONIES FOR.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, WHERE, WHERE THE MONEY WENT, THAT THIS IS, UH, IF YOU WANT TO CALL REPLACING IT, OR, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SUSTAINED BUDGET FOR THE STREETS.
NOW WE'D HAVE A GAS TAX ON TOP OF THAT.
SO IF THAT MONEY IS FOR THE STREETS, WHERE ARE WE SEEING THE BENEFIT OF IT? SO WE HAVE CONTINUED TO, AS THE, AS THE MONEY HAS COME IN, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO INVEST IT IN THE WAY THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO.
SO AS THE DOLLARS HAVE COME IN, SO LET'S SAY WE RECEIVED A HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE IN 2019, WE INCREASED THE INVESTMENT CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT IN STREETS BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN 2020, IF $300,000 MORE, IT CAME IN IN 2020, WE THEN INCREASED THE BUDGET IN 2021 TO OFFSET THAT.
OKAY, I GUESS, I GUESS I'M NOT EITHER SAYING IT RIGHT, OR I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IT, THAT WE ARE SAYING.
UM, RUSS SAYING THAT HIS BUDGET WAS A MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR.
I THINK IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BEFORE.
UM, WELL, HIS BUDGET FOR THE STREETS, WE INCREASED A LITTLE BIT FOR 2021.
UH, WAS THAT A RESULT OF THE GAS TAX OR WAS THAT A RESULT OF, DID THAT COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TRY TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE, WHERE THE MONEY COMES IN FROM THE GAS TAX FROM ARPA, FROM, FROM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DIFFERENT REIMBURSEMENTS.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN PUT TOGETHER, WE WERE ALREADY TO PUT TOGETHER THIS INFORMATION OR RELATIVE TO THE UTILITY, THE WATER UTILITY FOR THE DECEMBER 7TH, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SIMILAR INFORMATION FOR THE STREET PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE SOURCES OF REVENUES THAT GO TO SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM.
AND SOME OF THOSE REVENUES COME FROM ACCOUNTS THAT WE WOULD CALL THEM MIKE'S ACCOUNTS.
AND SOME OF THAT REVENUE COMES FROM ACCOUNTS THAT WE WOULD CALL RAICES ACCOUNTS THAT EFFECTIVELY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS CUMULATIVELY.
THEY'RE INCREASING, AND THEY'RE BEING UTILIZED TO IMPROVE
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THE STREETS AND THE SIDEWALKS AND CURBS.SO WE CAN PUT TOGETHER THAT INFORMATION AS PART OF THAT PRESENTATION AS OKAY.
UM, AND WHEN YOU COME BACK NEXT TIME, UM, IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD TO HAVE A WRITTEN, UH, REVISED BUDGET THAT SHOWS THIS EXTRA MONEY, THE $600,000 THAT YOU GUYS UNCOVERED.
AND ALSO, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT, UH, THANKS TO MR. UH, WEB THAT WE NEED A LINE ITEM IN THERE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THAT SPELLED OUT PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT A TEMPORARY BUDGET.
I THINK IT SENDS A NEGATIVE MESSAGE FROM, AND SO IF WE HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF US, THEN PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT I CAN, I CAN SUPPORT THAT KNOWING THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS, UH, FOR 2022, THAT WILLIE, THAT WE'LL GET THE ANSWERS TO AND WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM AT THAT TIME.
BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PASS, PASS A FULL BUDGET FOR 20, 22.
AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS INCLUDED IN THERE.
AND THE FACT THAT I DID NOT TOUCH ON THE SENIOR CENTER, IS IT A REFLECTION THAT WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET? IT JUST WAS NOT THE KEY FOCUS OF THE CONVERSATION FOR THAT EVENING.
SO MY APOLOGIES, IF IT WAS CONSTRUED, WE WENT ON AND I MEAN, WHEN WE HAVE IT IN WRITING IN FRONT OF US, SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE PASSING, THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE.
SO ON THE SEVENTH, THE PRESENTATION FOR A PERMANENT BUDGET WOULD, WOULD BASICALLY BE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ADDITIONAL MONIES FROM THE, UM, FOR THE WATER LINING PROJECT.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE LINE ITEM FOR THE, FOR THE SENIOR CENTER.
SO ANY OBJECTIONS INTO MOVING THIS ON TO THE DECEMBER 7TH WORK SESSION? OKAY.
SO WORK SESSION AND THEN THIRD READING AT THE DECEMBER 13TH, 13TH COUNTS.
NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH IS NEW BUSINESS ITEM, 11, 11, 8,
[ A Motion To Reappoint Darius Smith To The Citizens Water And Sewer Advisory Board To A Term Expiring January 1, 2025.]
A MOTION TO REAPPOINT DERRIUS SMITH TO THE CITIZENS, WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARDS FOR A TERM EXPIRING FIRST, 2025 ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.I'LL JUST MAKE COMMENTS FOR ITEMS 11, A B, C, AND D, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.
UH, THESE ARE ALL REAPPOINTMENTS TO CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR EXPIRING TERMS, UM, WHERE APPROPRIATE, UH, BACKGROUND CHECKS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ON THESE INDIVIDUALS AND UPDATED.
AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR ACTION ON ALL OF THESE MOTIONS THIS EVENING.
SO WE CAN HAVE THESE APPOINTMENTS IN PLACE, UH, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, RECOMMENDED ACTION ON MOTION 11 EIGHT.
IS THERE A, UH, IS MS. BERG? IS THERE A SECOND BOY, MR. HILL SECOND, BUT MOTION ON THE SECOND FOR REAPPOINTMENT OF DERRIUS SMITH IN THIS MR. ROGERS, MR. LYONS.
AND THE MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO.
[ A Motion To Reappoint Arrick Richardson To The Culture And Diversity Citizen Action Commission To A Term Expiring December 31, 2024.]
THERE A MOTION FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT OF ERIC RICHARDSON TO THE CULTURE? OH, YOU HAVE TO READ IT.ITEM 11, BE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT ERIC RICHARDSON TO THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION TO A TERM EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.
IS THERE A MOTION MS. BAKER MOVED TO THE POINT? MS. BERG, THE MOTION A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS, MR. HILL? YES.
[ A Motion To Reappoint Tom Istvan To The Military And Veterans Commission To A Term Expiring December 31, 2024.]
ITEM 11, C A MOTION TO REAPPOINT TOMMY VAN TO THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION TO A TERM EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.IS THERE A MOTION? THAT'S YOUR WEB AMATEUR LINES.
MR. ROGERS, MR. WEBB, MS. BAKER.
AND MOTION ALSO CARRIES FIVE ZERO.
[ A Motion To Reappoint Sheila Ballard And Donna Hess To The Property Maintenance Review Board To A Term Expiring December 31, 2024.]
ITEM 11, D A MOTION TO REAPPOINT SHEILA BALLARD THAT DONNA HAS TO THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD TO A TERM EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.IS THERE A SECOND, MR. HILL? SECOND, THE MOTION ON THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS, MS. BAKER, MRS. BERG, MR. LYONS, MR. HILL, MR. WEBB MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Of Huber Heights To Renew An Agreement With Pickrel Schaeffer & Ebeling For Legal Services As Law Director For The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Time Period Of January 1, 2022 Through December 31, 2022. (first reading)]
I HAVE AN 11 E AND A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF NEW BRIDES TO RENEW AN AGREEMENT WITH PICKEREL, SHAFFER, AND EVELYN FOR THE LEGAL SERVICES AS LAW DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO[00:50:01]
FOR THE TIME PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST, 2022 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2022 AT THE FIRST STREET, MR. ROGERS COMMENTS, UH, THERE'S JUST A REDO OF THE CONTRACT, UM, BASICALLY ON THE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS AS IT WAS IN 2021, UH, TO RETAIN, UH, MR. MCDONALD IS A LITTLE DIRECTOR AND, UH, THERE WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE OF $10 PER HOUR FOR THE LEGAL SERVICES.UH, THE COSTS FOR PROSECUTION SERVICES REMAINED THE SAME AS IN 21.
AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT A SIGN THIS EVENING.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION? THIS IS BIRCH FOR A SECOND.
I WILL SECOND HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, COUNSEL DID ASK FOR, UM, INFORMATION FROM MR. MCDONALD REGARDING SOME OF THE LEGAL, UH, FEES AND SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT OVER THE PAST YEAR.
SO I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED FOR ALL COUNCIL REVIEW, UH, PRIOR TO SAVINGS.
THERE'S NO DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS, MRS. BURR.
MR. LYONS, MR. HILL, MR. WEBB, MS. BAKER.
AND MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO AND ITEM 11 F
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract With The Montgomery County Public Defender Commission To Provide Statutorily Required Legal Counsel To Indigent Persons For Fiscal Year 2022. (first reading)]
ITEM 11 F A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH A MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER COMMISSION TO PROVIDE STATUTORILY REQUIRED LEGAL COUNSEL TO INDIGENT PERSONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 2 AT THE FIRST READING AND MR. ROGERS.UH, THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE ITEM AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, FOR MIAMI COUNTY.
THIS IS FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY FOR PUBLIC DEFENDER SERVICES.
UM, THESE RATES HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY $6 PER CASE, UM, OVER THE 2021 RATES.
IS THERE A MOTION, MR. LIGHTS? SO MOVE SECOND, MR. HILL SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO THE SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO IN NEXUS ITEM 11, G
[ An Ordinance Amending Certain Sections Of Part Thirteen, Building Code, Of The City Code Of Huber Heights. (first reading)]
ADAM 11 G AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF PART 13, THE BUILDING CODE OR THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS AT THE FIRST READING AND MR. ROGERS, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE ITEMS FROM THE ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMISSION DEALING WITH PART 13.THE BUILDING CODE I REVIEWED THESE, UH, RECOMMENDED CHANGES AND DETAIL AT THE LAST COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR THIS ITEM TO GO TO A SECOND READING, TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO ADOPTION.
RECOMMENDATION WAS THE SECOND READING.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING TO ANOTHER READING? OKAY.
[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For November 22, 2021 By The Huber Heights City Council For Zoning Case 21-34. The Applicant Is The Annex Group. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Rezoning To Planned Residential And A Basic Development Plan For Property Located At 6502 Old Troy Pike And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 04004 0003 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]
I HAD AN 11 AGE, A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR SENDING CASE TWO ONE DASH THREE FOUR APPLICANT IS THE ANNEX GROUP.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF RESENTING TO PLAN RESIDENTIAL AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 5 0 2 OLD TRAY PIKE, AND FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PERSONAL NUMBER P 7 0 0 4 0 0 4 0 0 0 3 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.
SO WE'LL WAIT FOR MR. LYONS TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SINCE WE NEED FIVE PEOPLE FOR A QUORUM.
SO I DON'T COUNT THAT IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING OKAY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 BY THE HEBREW RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL PRESENTING CASE TWO, ONE DASH THREE, FOUR IS OPEN AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD CALL ON OUR CITY STAFF TO MAKE THEIR INITIAL THANK YOU, MAYOR.
AND THE APPLICANT, THE ANNEX GROUP IS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND REZONING FOR A PLAN 216 MULTI-FAMILY UNIT, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON 20 ACRES AT 65 0 2 OLD TROY PIKE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF OLD TROY AND CHAMBERSBURG PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R FOUR.
UH, IN THIS REQUEST DOES INCLUDE A REZONING TO PLANNED RESIDENTIAL SAN JOSE, EXCUSE ME, SANITARY, SEWER, AND WATER THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE CITY'S MAIN SYSTEM AND IS LOCATED ON OLD TROY PIKE.
AND CHAMBERSBURG STORMWATER WILL BE HANDLED THROUGH A PUBLIC STORM SEWER SYSTEM, INCLUDING DETENTION BASINS, WHICH CAN BE SEEN ON THE SCREEN.
THE SITE HAS TWO PROPOSED ACCESS POINTS, ONE ON OLD TROY NEAR THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, AND ONE ON CHAMBERSBURG AND EXISTING ACCESS POINT ON OLD TROY.
CURRENTLY THE ACCESS TO THE KEY BANK WILL ALSO BE UTILIZED 6 36 UNIT BUILDINGS ARE BEING PROPOSED.
THE BUILDINGS WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO BE COMPLETELY SIGHTING.
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STAFF DID RECOMMEND A MINIMUM OF 25% OF THE SURFACE AREA BE FINISHED WITH BRICK OR STONE MASONRY PRODUCT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON TUESDAY.AND A NEW RENDERING WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, UH, TO SHOW, UH, THE BRICK TO BE USED, UH, ON THE SIDE AND IN THE FRONT WHERE YOUR ELEVATIONS 345 PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WITH 14 OF THOSE BEING ADA ACCESSIBLE, A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS COMPLETED ON THE INTERSECTION AND IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE FOR THIS PROJECT INCLUDE THE WIDENING CHAMBERSBURG ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE EXTENSION OF THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE ON OLD TROY TO CHAMBERSBURG, UH, AS PART OF A SEPARATE PROJECT, UH, THE CITY WILL BE IMPROVING CHAMBERSBURG TO THE WEST OF OLD TROY.
NOW AT THE WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY, SEPARATELY ISSUES WERE BROUGHT UP.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE NOW, IF I MAY, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, OBVIOUSLY A BIG CONCERN HERE, THE WATER CONNECTION, GO BACK TO THIS MAP WITH WATER BEING ON OLD TROY AND CHAMBERSBURG.
THIS SITE HAS THE POTENTIAL AND I BELIEVE IS PROPOSED TO BE A LOOPING SYSTEM.
SO THE HOTSPOTS FOR THE WATER MAIN BREAKS PER OUR CITY ENGINEER WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BY THIS PARTICULAR.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, THE TAP IN FEES FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 40 AND 62,000, DEPENDING ON, UH, THE METER SIZE.
THOSE FEES CAN GO DIRECTLY TO HELPING FUND SOME OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS NECESSARY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO IN THE CRA DISTRICT.
NOW WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
HOWEVER, PILOT PAYMENTS COULD BE AN OPTION AND UNLIKE TAX PAYMENTS, WHICH ARE DISTRIBUTED TO DIFFERENT AREAS, THE PILOT PAYMENT COULD BE USED AT OUR FULL DISCRETION.
100% OF THAT PILOT PAYMENT THAT COULD ALSO BE DIRECTED TOWARD THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY IN THE CITY.
UH, TRAFFIC BEING AS WAS ALSO A CONCERN, I BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS PRESENT THIS EVENING, UM, AND HE CAN DISCUSS, UH, SOME OF THE ISSUES IN THE REPORT.
UH, AND ANY COMMENT THAT THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE THE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ALONG CHAMBERSBURG ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN HERE, THAT YOU SEE, UH, THE WIDENING OF CHAMBERSBURG, WE'RE GOING TO BE A PART OF THE CITY'S WIDENING PROJECT WITH THIS APPLICANT TAKING ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY WOULD SAVE THE CITY AN ESTIMATED 90,000, UH, AND FINALLY PARKING, UH, WAS, WAS MENTIONED AS A CONCERN.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE AND I WOULD DEFER TO HIM TO SPEAK ON THAT PLANNING COMMISSION DID APPROVE OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FOSTER AT THE MOMENT? MA'AM I DO.
UM, AND, UH, SINCE I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING AND I, ALTHOUGH I WATCHED IT SEVERAL TIMES, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UM, THAT I DIDN'T HEAR ANSWERED.
UM, ARE THESE APARTMENTS TO BE LEASED RENTED? WHAT, WHAT INCOME LEVEL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE GENERALLY KNOW IF THEIR MARKET RATE, OR WHAT HAS THERE BEEN DISCUSSION ON THAT WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSION THESE ARE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.
WHAT'S THAT MEAN? I BELIEVE THEY ARE 60% AMI AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME.
THESE ARE NOT GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED APARTMENT UNITS.
UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT MEANS OPPOSED TO MARKET RATE.
SO I THINK I WILL ALLOW APPLICANT TO SPEAK ON THAT AS I THINK HE CAN SPEAK A LITTLE MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I CAN ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.
SO IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS ARE AT THE 60% AREA MEDIAN INCOME LEVEL.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE UNITS WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THOSE WHO MAKE, UM, A CERTAIN INCOME, UM, WHICH IS 60% AMI IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THE APARTMENT.
UM, IT'S ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30 2040 4,000 FOR THE COUNTY.
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UM, ALL RIGHT.THE, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL CONCERNS I HAVE.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS THAT, UM, THERE WAS NEVER ANY MENTION THAT WE HAVE GONE TOWARD NOW WHEN THERE ARE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE WIDER SIDEWALKS IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR VICE BY BICYCLE RIDING OTHER, UM, MODAL TYPE TRANSPORTATION.
UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT HAVING THAT AVAILABLE.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT WHEN THE, UH, CHAMBERSBURG IS WIDENED, THAT IT ALSO INCLUDE THE WIDER SIDEWALK.
SO, AND I DO APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T MENTION THAT.
I BELIEVE I MENTIONED IT ON TUESDAY.
UM, AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN, WHEN THE WIDENING OCCURS FOR CHAMBERSBURG, THEY WILL BE CURVED AND SIDEWALK ADDED TO THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE EAST AND TO THE PROPERTY LINE, TO THE WEST.
UM, AND HAS ARREST REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC STUDY? UH, ACTUALLY I BELIEVE SCOTT REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC STUDY PRIOR TO HIS DEPARTURE.
WELL, SINCE WE HAVE RUSS, I THINK, UH, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR HIM TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND THEN, SO HE SAID THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT TO THE CURRENT WATER AND SEWAGE SYSTEMS. UM, AND THEN $90,000 SAVINGS THAT YOU SUGGESTED WOULD BE IF WE WENT THIS WAY, IF WE CONTINUED ON WITH THE, UM, STATE SUBSIDIZE, UH, THING, THEN OUR PORTION WOULDN'T BE THE SAVINGS.
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY STATE SUBSIDIZED.
THEY, THE OHIO, UH, WHEN MY THINKING OF JEFF FARE, THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM, FROM THE STATE TO WIDEN CHAMBERSBURG EAST, UH, WHICH WE WILL EVENTUALLY DUE WEST THAT A CERTAIN PORTION OF THAT COMES FROM THE STATE.
SO WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME SAVINGS OR PERCEIVED SAVINGS OF $90,000, IF THEY DIDN'T DO IT, THEN WE WOULD GET MONEY FROM THE STATE.
SO MAYBE THE SAVINGS REALLY IS AT NINE, $8,000.
SO I KNOW, I THINK SO WE ARE HAVING, THERE IS GRANT MONEY OR MATCHING FUNDS, BASICALLY RUNNING CHAMPIONS.
THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE MADE FROM CHAMBERSBURG TO THE, TO THE EAST IS THAT IS, IS CHAMBERSBURG FROM OLD TROY PIKE TO THE WEST, OR EVEN A FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS WEST NOW BEYOND BRANT PIKE, WEST
IS ANY OF THAT COMING FROM, FROM STATE MONEY AS NANCY MENTIONED, OR WAS THAT GOING TO BE ALL ON OUR DIME THROUGH REVENUE FROM OTHER DEVELOPMENT? SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, SO YES, KIND OF, SORT OF MAYBE SOMETIMES, UM, THE WAY THAT THAT WORKS IS THAT BASED ON THE NATURE AND THE DYNAMIC DEFINITION OF, OF CHAMBERSBURG, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS AN ARTERIAL COLLECTOR AT QUALIFIES FOR FEDERAL FUNDING AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, BUT JUST BECAUSE OF QUALIFIES A DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT IT GETS THE MONEY B EVEN QUALIFYING FOR THE MONEY STILL REQUIRES THE CITY TO HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE SOME PORTION OF THE COST.
SO NANCY'S ARGUMENT, ISN'T IT NANCY'S POSITION.
ISN'T AN INCORRECT, DO YOU MEAN MRS. BURGESS POSITION? ISN'T AN INCORRECT POSITION TO SAY IT MIGHT NOT COST THAT THAT IS TRUE.
WE HAVE A COST SHARING OBLIGATION, HOW YOU WANT TO ASSIGN THAT COST SHARING ALLOCATION DEPENDS ON WHATEVER POLICY COUNTS WOULD TAKE.
SO FOR INSTANCE, ON THE CHAMBERSBURG WEST PROJECT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S PUSHING A $4 MILLION PROJECT.
I WANT TO SAY AT THIS POINT WITH DESIGN ENGINEERING AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION ON THAT PROJECT TO FUND 1.1 MILLION.
SO THERE'S NO, UM, THEN THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT.
HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO ADD? WHAT ARE THE BASIC NECESSITIES THAT ODAT REQUIRES VERSUS WHAT WE WANT TO ADD? SO IT, IT GETS, IT GETS CONVOLUTED VERY QUICKLY.
SO, BUT AGAIN, THESE PROJECTS, DEPENDING UPON WHEN THEY HAPPEN AND WHAT GROUP OF FUNDING WE'RE USING, THERE CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM A TWO YEAR WINDOW TO A SEVEN YEAR WINDOW BASED ON WHEN YOU'RE AWARDED THE FUNDING.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO WHICH, THE MORE THAT YOU BID TO MATCH YOUR PROJECT,
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THE MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO RECEIVE THE PROJECT.SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, THE MINIMUM MAGIC REQUIREMENT ON A PROJECT MIGHT BE ONLY 20% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT, AND IT'S ALL A POINT BASED SYSTEM.
SO IF YOU CONTRIBUTE 25% OF THE COST, YOU HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF RECEIVING THE AWARD BECAUSE YOU GET MORE POINTS BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING MORE LOCAL MONEY.
AND SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTIONABLE PROJECT ON SCORE, RIGHT, YOU WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, SO YOU SCORE HIGHER AND THEN YOU MOVE IN.
SO MRS. BURGESS COMMENTS AREN'T INCORRECT, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY HOW CORRECT DID THEY WOULD BE OR HOW INCORRECT THEY MIGHT BE UNTIL WE'RE OUT LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL PROJECT.
THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, DID WE SUBMIT A REQUEST TO MCRPC? SO FOR THIS LEG, I DON'T BELIEVE BASED ON THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN LINE FOR CHAMBERSBURG, WE ARE NOT TO THIS.
WHAT WOULD BE EASTERN PORTION OF OLD, OF, UH, EASTERN SIDE OF OLD TROY FOR CHAMBERSBURG? RIGHT.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WE WERE, WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK AND SEE IF WE DID? YEAH.
UH, BECAUSE I WAS BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING ON MAKING THAT A CONNECTOR TO THE GREAT VITAMIN BIKE PATH, AND WE KNEW THAT, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE WAS GOING TO COVER SOME OF THAT.
BUT, UM, AND WE HAD OTHER AVENUES WE WERE PURSUING, BUT I THOUGHT THEY WERE STILL GOING TO ASK OUR SUBMIT DOCUMENTS, UH, THROUGH MCRPC A REQUEST FOR SOME FUN.
SO I AM AWARE THAT THAT WESTERN PORTION IS BEING FUNDS ARE AN STP GRANT, AND WE ANTICIPATE THOSE REVENUES BEING AVAILABLE TO US IN FISCAL YEAR 20, 25, BUT THAT WORK STOPS AT THE INTERSECTION IN AND OF ITSELF.
SO THAT WOULD, WOULD PULL US AS FAR AS WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD TROY IN THAT PORTION OF CHAMBERSBURG.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT WORK IF WE'VE DONE ANY WORK ON IT AT ALL.
AND SO, AS I WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY WORK IN THAT DIVISION UNTIL ABOUT FOUR DAYS AGO, I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT WHAT'S THERE.
SO, AND, AND MY, MY POINT WAS THAT THAT THE PROJECTED SAVINGS THAT JASON, UH, BROUGHT UP WERE KIND OF AS TENUOUS, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT AS, AS THE PROSPECTIVE SAVINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOR BOY, WE WENT THROUGH, OH, DOC AGREED.
BUT I THINK, I THINK THE POINT, UM, IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO SIMPLY SAY THAT THIS PROJECT REQUIRES US TO INVEST LESS AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE FOR THE SAME IMPROVEMENT, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S 100%, 50% OR 30% THAT IS STILL, UH, A SAVINGS THAT CAN BE INVESTED TOWARDS ADDRESSING OTHER UTILITY ISSUES.
AND THEN MY LAST, UH, CONCERN WAS THAT THERE'S NO OVERFLOW PARKING AND YOUR PLAN THERE.
AND, UM, AND I HOPE WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO I DO HAVE, UM, JUST SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON HOW WE ARRIVED AT OUR, UH, PARKING RATIO.
UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO FIND SOME PARKING DEMOGRAPHIC FOR RENTER VEHICLE OCCUPANCY, UM, IN THE FOUR SURROUNDING CENSUS TRACKS, UH, IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND ON AVERAGE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES PER RENTAL HOUSEHOLD IS 1.59 FOR THOSE CENSUS TRACKS, UM, AS COMPARED TO OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING AT 2.07.
UM, SO THERE IS A, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RENTAL OCCUPIED HOUSING UNITS, UH, AND THE OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING UNITS.
UM, IN OUR CURRENT PARKING RATIO, I BELIEVE IS 1.6.
UH, WE'RE WE'RE RIGHT IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
UM, I ALSO HAVE A SHEET, UM, THAT SHOWS OUR BUILDING AND PARKING MATRIX FOR A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS.
THEY HAVE, UH, AROUND SIX HERE.
UM, AND MOST OF OUR, UH, I THINK OUR AVERAGE COMPANY-WIDE, WE'RE AT 1.57, UM, FOR OUR PARKING RATIO AS WELL.
UM, AND THAT'S, SOME OF THEM ARE IN LARGER CITIES.
SOME OF THEM ARE IN SMALL RURAL TOWNS, UM, COLLEGE TOWNS, UH, JUST KIND OF A GENERAL MIX.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST TYPICALLY WHAT WE, WHAT WE TEND TO SEE, BUT THAT IS BASICALLY FOR THE RESIDENTS, RIGHT? UH, IT'S FOR THAT'S FOR PARKING ALL OVER.
UM, SO IT'S PARKING FOR VISITORS AND RESIDENTS.
UH, WHOEVER'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THERE, AND THE PARKING WILL BE NEAR THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES RIGHT BY THEIR APARTMENTS.
SO IF, UH, WHEN WE HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER PLANS HERE IN THE CITY FOR APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, THERE HAVE BEEN EXTRA SPACES THAT HAVE BEEN KIND OF SET ASIDE FOR PEOPLE VISITING, OR IF A HOUSEHOLD HAS MULTIPLE CARS OR WHATEVER ELSE.
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THAT IN THERE, YOUR 1.6 TELLS ME WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THERE WHO HAVE TWO CARS.SO WHERE IS THE SPACE FOR THE REST OF THEM TO PARK WHAT I CALL OVERFLOW? YEAH.
AND I THINK TO, TO THAT POINT, UM, I THINK IN THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, WE SEE THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE CARS.
UM, SOME PEOPLE RELY ON TRANSPORTATION.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE.
UM, I HAVE, I CAN, I CAN SHOW YOU THE, OUR DATA SHEET, UM, FROM ALL THE REST OF OUR PROJECTS, BUT WE, WE TEND TO NOT EVEN THE RTA ROUTE A MAP, YOU CAN GET A MAP FROM THEM.
IN FACT, I THINK RUSS BERKMAN HAS ONE AND HE WILL SHOW YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE THE BUS STOPS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA.
THIS IS NOT A, A WALKING OR A, UH, HEAVILY TRAVELED, UH, PUBLIC TRANSIT AREA.
SO UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR DEVELOPMENTS ARE BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE COMMUTERS.
AND WE DO, UM, WE BROUGHT IT JUST AS A, A PLAN B.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, OPTIONAL SITE SITE PLAN, UM, THAT INCLUDES OVERFLOW PARKING.
IT ADDS AN ADDITIONAL 43 SPACES IN THE AREA JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE, THE CREEK THERE.
UM, I HAVE IT IN MY HAND, SIR, IF YOU, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF PARKING IS GOING TO BE, UM, YOU COULD GIVE A COPY OF A JAR TO MS. ROGERS AND HE COULD DISTRIBUTE IT.
UM, JASON BROUGHT THE PILOT PAYMENT, SO WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
SO IS THIS AN, A CRA, IS THAT THE, THE, THE, THE REASON FOR THE, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE HALAPENS, IT IS, IT'S A, AN A PRE 94 PRE 94.
SO THAT'S A 15, 15 YEAR PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT THAT WE COULD NEGOTIATE PILOT PAYMENTS ON.
SO THOSE, THOSE, THOSE PILOT PAYMENTS THAT COULD BE USED, UM, SO KNOW THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THAN TIF REVENUE.
SO THAT MONEY THAT WOULD COME IN THROUGH THE PILOT PAYMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPER, COULD THAT BE USED, DOES THE CITY HAVE DISCRETION ON WHERE THAT MONEY GETS SPENT IN, OR HAS THAT BECOME DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC KIND OF LIKE A TIF REVENUE FOR THE TIF DISTRICT? NO.
UNLIKE TIF REVENUE, PILOT PAYMENTS ARE THE MONIES RECEIVED THROUGH PILOT PAYMENTS ARE FULLY DISCRETIONARY TO THE CITY AND CAN BE SPENT ON WHATEVER PROJECT THAT YOU WOULD DIRECT THEM TO BE SPENT.
SO ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COMES IN THAT'S NEGOTIATED THROUGH PILOT PAYMENTS COULD BE DIRECTED DIRECTLY TOWARD WATER INFANTS.
CORRECT? IF THAT IS WHAT COUNCIL WISHED YES.
DOES THIS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE LOOP SYSTEM.
WE'RE CLOSING THIS FROM OLD TROY, AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED ALSO IN CHAMBERSBURG, AND I KNOW THAT THE BIG CONCERN IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS THE ISSUE OF ADDED STRAIN OR ADDED STRESS ON TO, UM, AN ALREADY, I HATE TO EVEN USE THE TERM OVERLOAD BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE OF, OF SOME OF THESE WATER MAIN BREAKS ARE.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S PRESSURE OR NOT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
SO WHAT, FROM AN ENGINE AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.
SO FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, UM, DOES THAT IN FACT ADD STRESS ON TO THE OTHER PART OF THE SYSTEM? DOES IT WHEN YOU'RE AT, BECAUSE I MEAN, CLEARLY THIS IS GOING TO BE NEW WATER, NEW WATER MAIN.
SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
DOES THAT ADD STRESS ON THE EXISTING SYSTEM ALREADY? IS THAT A VALID CONCERN OR IN A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM? DOES THIS PROJECT, DOES THAT MAINTAIN THE WATER IN THAT AREA AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THAT'S A REAL ISSUE THAT I'M NOT SURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE UNDERSTOOD AND WE CAN HAVE THE CITY ENGINEER, MR. BERGMAN, ADDRESS THAT AND FOLLOW UP COMMENTS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING UNDER A PRESSURIZED SYSTEM, SUCH AS THIS ONE, NO, IT WOULD NOT.
BUT, UH, THE ENGINEER, WE CAN HAVE CONFIRMED IN HIS STATEMENT, UH, TO COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THAT IF THAT WOULD MAKE, UH, THE MEMBERS, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE TO COUNSEL UNDERSTANDING OF KNOWING WHAT, WHAT EFFECT HAS MR. SHAWL POINTED OUT AT THE LAST MEETING? HIS, HIS BIG CONCERN WAS, UH, AND THEN THAT EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT WAS ADDING TO A SYSTEM THAT IS ALREADY UNDER DURESS, BUT NOBODY EVER SAID, IS THIS SPECIFIC PIECE GOING TO AFFECT WHAT'S UNDER
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DURESS.AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT.
AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT FOR CERTAIN BEFORE, UH, BEFORE WE STARTED MAKING THEM START MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
I MEAN, THAT WAS, UM, I'D LIKE TO GET AS OPINION ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY TOO, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HE SEES, UH, UH, IN THERE THAT MAYBE HE HAS AN ADDITION FOR MANAGING THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FLOW.
AND I KNOW, AND IT, MR. CASKEY BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST, I MEAN, A THIRD MEETING THAT, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION THAT WE SEE TODAY IS NOT GOING TO BE THE INTERSECTION THAT'S THERE FOR FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.
UM, SO I THINK, UH, A REAL GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE, MAYBE EVEN ON, NOT SO MUCH EVEN AN ENGINEERING DRAWING, SO TO SPEAK, BUT SOMETHING BETTER, A MARKED UP, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE VIEW OF WHAT THAT IS THAT SHOWS WHAT SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE, WHAT THAT'S, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE.
UM, I KNOW MY EYESIGHT'S NOT THE GREATEST, I MEAN, I KNOW JUST FROM RIGHT NOW LOOKING, EVEN WHEN I SEE ON HERE AND JUST A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, BLACK AND WHITE LINES, IT MAKES IT TOUGH TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AND SEE EXACTLY WHERE ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA GO.
SAME THING, UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE.
UM, I THINK A MARKUP BECAUSE THIS IS, I MEAN, THIS IS A, A KEY INTERSECTION FOR, FOR THIS CITY.
SO I THINK MARKUP TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN THIS IS ALL DONE WITH WHAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CHANGES ARE, I THINK WOULD PROBABLY HELP ALL OF US BE ABLE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THAT CORNER, BUT NOT JUST NOW, WHAT WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE? I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF.
UM, WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW AS WELL? MR. WEBB.
MA'AM UH, BRIAN IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR YOU WITH THE BROAD REACH DEVELOPMENT NORTH ON OLD TROY, UH, COUNCIL HAD A STIPULATION THAT THE ROAD WORK WOULD BE COMPLETED PRIOR THE START OF THE PROJECT.
UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE WITH THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS ON CHAMBERSBURG AS THIS DEVELOPS? UM, SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WE HAVE NOT HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING THAT TYPE OF PROCESS OR THOSE TYPES OF CONDITIONS.
AND THAT'S ONLY FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE HAVE NOT YET HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING THE POTENTIAL PILOT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO ANY OF THOSE CAVEATS THAT WE, AS THE CITY WOULD WANT TO SEE SUCH AS IF YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TAX BENEFIT, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE AS IT RELATES TO THE DEVELOPMENT FOR YOU TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT.
SO WE COULD NEGOTIATE THOSE AS TERMS AND CONDITIONS IF WE WERE TO EXPLORE THE PILOT OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT STAGE YET.
SO WE DO NOT HAVE THAT COMMITMENT AT THIS TIME.
AND AM I CORRECT THAT ONCE THIS LEAVES OUR HANDS WITH APPROVAL, UH, COUNCIL WILL NOT SEE THOSE COMING BACK BEFORE US FOR THOSE TYPES OF DETAILS, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
IT WOULD BE A STAFF, UM, NEGOTIATION.
UM, THEN THERE ARE TWO THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PRIOR TO OUR NEXT WORK SESSION.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE PILOT PAYMENTS, SOME SORTA OF A GUESSTIMATE AND, UH, THE OTHER WOULD BE, UH, SOME IDEA OF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES FROM 2018.
I DID NOTE THAT IT HAS THE BANK TRAFFIC IN THERE, UH, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW RELEVANT IT IS OVERALL.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME FURTHER INFORMATION ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INTERSECTION CAN HANDLE IT.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE THIRD THING IS WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP.
I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM ROSS REGARDING ANY IMPACT ON OUR EXISTING SEWER AND WATER.
MA'AM UM, JASON, UH, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT IT WAS RUSS'S OPINION THAT THIS PROJECT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON OUR WATER AND SEWER.
UH, WHERE ON CHAMBERS BIRD, UH, WOULD BE THE CLOSEST WATER MAIN BREAK THAT WE'VE HAD? WELL, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION ON CHAMBERSBURG.
THE MAP THAT I SAW EARLIER TODAY ACTUALLY HAD, UM, BRAKES THAT WERE IN THE VILLAINS TO THE NORTH, DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH.
UM, RUSS DOES HAVE THAT FULL MAP.
I'M SURE THAT HE CAN BRING THAT, UH, TO THE WORK SESSION AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THAT, BUT I CAN NOT SPEAK ACCURATELY ON THAT, SO.
AND WITH THOSE, UH, BREAKS, UH, IS THAT FED INTO THIS SAME SYSTEM OR IS THAT A SEPARATE SYSTEM? THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE SYSTEM.
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WAS PROBABLY WHERE RUSS WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T, UH, IT WAS ANOTHER ONE.SO, UM, HOW LONG HAS THAT WATER MAIN BEEN THERE, WHICH WATERMAN THE ONE ON CHAMBERSBURG THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAP INTO? UH, I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
HAS IT BEEN ALIGNED YET? IS IT ON THE PROCESS FOR BEING LINED? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PARTICULAR LINE HAS BEEN LIKED.
AND, UM, THE MAYOR, I KNOW COUNCILMAN BERGE MENTIONED IT AND COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN WEB MENTIONED IT.
UM, JUST BELAYING THIS INFORMATION.
UM, STAFF'S VERY AWARE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A TEMPORARY BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF MONEY.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET INTO OUR WATER MAIN, UH, REPAIR AND LINING.
UM, I'M IN WARD SIX, BUT WHAT AFFECTS ONE WART AFFECTS US ALL.
I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS, MORE SIX ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND SEVERAL OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SEXUALLY, ALL OF THEM WERE CC'D IN THERE, UM, WITH THE CONCERN ABOUT THIS.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT LIKE TO BRING BACK AS A PARROTED BY THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND, UM, COUNCIL, WOMAN, LEG, KITCHEN, JUST SPOKE TO THIS ABOUT THAT.
SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, REAL ISSUES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, EVEN PUTTING A TEMPORARY BUDGET IN THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN ON THE DAYAS IN 10 YEARS.
SO, UM, WE JUST REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND PLEASE PASS THAT INFORMATION ALONG TO RUSS MY QUESTIONS, UM, WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WATER, UH, LINING PROJECT.
COULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON THE MAP ADDED TO IT? IS IT NECESSARY TO HIS RECOMMENDATION? HE SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE GIVE HIM ONE MORE MONEY, HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO RUN IT IN.
AND THAT'S FANTASTIC BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT THE LAST TWO YEARS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT WE ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC WATER LIGHTING PROJECT.
UH, SO NEXT, UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD CALL ON THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE INEXT GROUP FOR ANY PRESENTATION OR ANY COMMENTS ACTUALLY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE FOR PUBLIC HEARING? UM, I HAVE MADE MOST OF MY COMMENTS, UH, MOST OF THEM WERE IN REGARDS TO THE PARKING.
UM, I DO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR SCHEDULE, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, HOW THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS GOING.
AND WHEN WE PLAN ON STARTING CONSTRUCTION AND LEASE UP AND WHATNOT, UM, WE'RE PLANNING TO, UM, GET OUR DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL, UM, IN MARCH, UM, WITH THE TAX CREDIT APPLICATION GOING ON IN, UH, IN APRIL AND OUR RESERVATION AND AWARD, UM, HOPEFULLY IN JUNE OR JULY OF 2022, UM, WITH PERMITTING PROCESS JULY TO SEPTEMBER, UM, CLOSING IN SEPTEMBER AS WELL, CONSTRUCTION FROM OCTOBER, 2022 TO JANUARY OF 2025.
AND WE WILL BEGIN LEASING, UM, IN JULY OF 2024.
UM, SO SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETE.
UM, SO WHAT WAS THE SCHEDULED COMPLETION DATE? I HAD SOME NUMBERS BACKWARDS, SO IT, THE WHOLE THING WILL BE DONE OBVIOUSLY SPECULATIVE, UM, JANUARY OF 2025 WITH LEASING BEGINNING IN JULY OF 2024.
AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW YOU WANT, IF YOU ACTUALLY, IF YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND, I'M GOING TO, I DIDN'T, I JUST WENT AND MAKE SURE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TWO PARKING SPACES FOR EACH UNIT.
SO I WOULD LIKE YOUR ADDITIONAL 43.
AND IF WE COULD GET UP TO TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT AS MY ONLY COMMENT.
UH, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, MAYOR AND STAFF.
UM, I PREPARED THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
I KNOW, UM, COUNCIL HAD SOME COMMENTS LAST MEETING AT THE WORK SESSION JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY AND AS WELL AS ANSWERING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU GUYS MAY HAVE, UM, THE STUDY AND GOOD POINT.
UM, MR. WEBB, UM, THE STUDY USE 2018 COUNTS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE CITY.
UM, WE USE THE EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING PLAN THERE.
UM, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS 260 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT, UM, GENERATES 80 TRIPS IN THE AM PEAK HOUR AND 95 TRIPS IN THE PMP COWER, AND THE AM THE MORE HEAVILY WEIGHTED TO OUTBOUND TRIPS, UM, AND SOME INBOUND AND THEN IN THE PM AND VICE VERSA THAT MORE, MORE INBOUND TRIPS THAN OUTBOUND TRIPS.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE THREE ACCESS POINTS TO PROPOSED, ONE BEING ONE NEW
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ONE ON OLD TROY PIKE ON THE NORTH END, AND ONE, A NEW ACCESS POINT ON CHAMBERSBURG ROAD, WHICH ALREADY HAS A CURB CUT THERE, JUST WEST OF THAT STREAM AND THE BOX CULVERT.UM, WHEN, WHEN YOU ANALYZE THAT AND YOU ADD THOSE TRIPS TO THE NETWORK, THIS INTERSECTION STILL PERFORMS THAT ALL SERVES THE, UM, AND AS AN A ONE SERVICE OR ONE, SORRY, ONE SECOND OF DELAY.
ON AVERAGE TO THE VEHICLES THAT GO THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION, THE PEAK HOURS, UM, A LEVEL OF SERVICE D DOESN'T SOUND GOOD IN SCHOOL, UM, BUT LEVEL SERVICE D IS AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, BY INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
AND ACTUALLY WHEN YOU GET INTO MORE URBAN PRIME LOCATION LEVEL SERVICE IS ACTUALLY ACCEPTABLE.
UM, WHEN YOU'RE DOING STUDIES AND IN COLUMBUS OR INDIANAPOLIS OR EVEN CHICAGO.
UM, NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE STUDY DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPROVEMENTS ON CHAMBERSBURG ROAD THAT DEVELOPER, UM, IS COMMITTING TO, UM, WITH THE WIDENING THERE.
UM, ESSENTIALLY WE'LL TAKE IT'S FIVE LANES OR NOT FIVE LANE, BUT THE THREE LANE SECTION EAST AND DO THE CLOSED SECTION ON THE NORTH SIDE ONTO BY CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALKS.
UM, THOSE PEDESTRIAN FOR THE SCHOOL, UM, THE STUDY ALSO RECOMMENDS AN EXTENSION OF THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE ON THAT PROVIDE MORE STORAGE AND QUEUING FOR FOLKS ON OLD TROY PIKE THAT NEEDED TO MAKE THAT LEFT ON THE CHAMBERSBURG ROAD, UM, THAT WASN'T IN TAKING AN ACCOUNT IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND THAT CERTAINLY WILL HELP, UM, ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT, WHICH THE CITY OBVIOUSLY IS GOING FORWARD WITH IS THE IMPROVEMENTS ON CHAMBERSBURG ROAD WEST OF OLD TROY PIKE.
UM, THE T TODAY THAT EXISTING LEFT TURN LANE IS ONLY 60 FEET LONG.
SO WHEN THERE'S A THIRD CAR WAITING TO GET, TAKE A LEFT, IT'S JUST BLOCKING THE THROUGHS AND VICE VERSA.
WHEN THE THROUGHS ARE LONGER THAN THAT STORAGE, IT'S GOING TO BLOCK THE LEFT TURN.
SO ANY IMPROVEMENT TO CHAMBERSBURG ROAD WEST, THIS INTERSECTION IS GOING TO GREATLY HELP THE CAPACITY OF THE INTERSECTION, ITS LEVEL OF SERVICE.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT PROJECT IS, AS, AS STAFF HAS MENTIONED, THAT'S A 2025 PROJECT, AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM OUR SCHEDULE.
UM, THEY WOULDN'T START LEASING UNTIL JULY OF 2024 AT BEST CASE SCENARIO.
UM, SO THAT GAP IN TIME SHOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE, UM, ALIGNED.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE WILL BE MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO CHAMBERSBURG ROAD WITH THIS PROJECT EAST OF OLD TROY PIKE.
SO I THINK THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU'LL SEE AFTER THIS PROJECT IS DONE IS, IS TO A BETTERMENT OF THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT YOU SEE THERE TODAY.
UM, THE, THE TRIPS IN THE DATA WE USE WAS FROM 2018, BUT WE DID APPLY A 2% OR A ONE HALF PERCENT GROWTH RATE TO ANALYZE THIS IN 2023.
UM, IT, IF YOU LOOKED AT OLD TROY PIKE AND THE TRAFFIC DATA FROM ODAT, THERE'S ACTUALLY STAGNANT GROWTH ON THAT ROAD HAS ACTUALLY GROWN AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, 2020, TAKE IT OUT OF THE EQUATION.
I THINK WE SAW OVERALL ALMOST LIKE A 20% REDUCTION IN THAT YEAR, BUT IF YOU TOOK A GROWTH RATE FROM THE TRAFFIC DAY THAT WE HAD BEFORE 2018 AND YOU GROW IT, THAT WAS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE ONE AND HALF PERCENT GROWTH RATE.
SO I THINK WE WERE A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE ON THE STUDY.
UM, IF YOU'VE TAKEN THE COUNCIL AND ADDITIONAL PERMITS ON THE CHAMBERSBURG, AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASED LEVEL OF SERVICE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMIT THAT TO OUR PROJECT, BUT I THINK IF YOU WANTED TO SEE SOME MORE ANALYSIS, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU.
MS. BERTRAM, DID YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IN YOUR TIMING AND THE INTERSECTIONS, THE, UH, THE HUGE NUMBER OF BUSES THAT ARE GOING TO EACH OF THE SCHOOLS THERE? SO WITH THE 2018 DATA, THERE'S A PEAK HOUR FACTOR, AND ACTUALLY IT'S A PRETTY LOW PEAK HOUR FACTOR, WHICH MEANS THE WORST 15 MINUTES IN THE PEAK HOUR.
UM, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE USING THAT, IT'S BASICALLY, UM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT'S, A LOT OF TIMES ARE REALLY LOW BY SCHOOLS AND BIG PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT.
CAUSE YOU HAVE THOSE HUGE TIME DISMISSALS WITH ALL THE BUSES AND, AND STUDENTS AND PARENTS THAT ARE LEAVING AT THE SAME TIME OR ARRIVING AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THE DATA ACTUALLY WE GOT WHEN I REALIZED WHEN I'VE SEEN THE PEAK HOUR FACTORS WERE ALREADY LOW.
SO I KNOW THAT IT'S BEING EXTRA CONSERVATIVE ON, ON THE STUDY BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE THOSE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE A BAD 10, 15 MINUTES THAT COME UP.
AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF, I MEAN, THAT'S TYPICAL WHEN YOU'RE AROUND SCHOOLS.
SO ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET THE HIGH SCHOOL TO THE EAST AND THE SCHOOL OF THE SOUTH ON OLD TROY PIKE, I DO WANT TO MENTION THE STUDY KEPT THE EXISTING TIMINGS AS IS.
UM, I, I WOULD ASSUME OLD TROY PIKE IS COORDINATED AND SYNCHRONIZED.
SO THOSE CYCLINGS LINKS NEED TO BE THE SAME.
UM, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SPLITS ON EAST AND WEST, UM, ON THE ROAD THAT WERE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR, BUT WOULD IMPROVE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY.
I HAVE ONE FOR THE, FOR THE DEVELOPER.
UM, YOU WERE, YOU SAID YOU HAD ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM.
WHAT ARE THE SIZES OF THOSE UNITS? UM, THERE ARE ROUGHLY 700 SQUARE FEET, UH, FOR THE ONE BEDROOMS, UH, 900 SQUARE FEET FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS AND 1100 SQUARE FEET FOR THE THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO READ THOSE HAD 60%.
SO THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE RESERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS MAKING,
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UM, ANYWHERE, BUT AT THE 60% AMI LEVEL.UM, SO ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30, 30, 1000 A YEAR AND 44,000 A YEAR, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHY WHEN THE MARKET IS OUT THERE TO GET A HIGHER YIELD ON A 1100 SQUARE FOOT APARTMENT THAT YOU WOULD RENT IT FOR SUCH A LOW RATE.
UM, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, I THINK IS A HUGE NEED RIGHT NOW AS COMPARED TO MARKET RATE HOUSING.
UM, AND THAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
WE, WE FULFILL THAT NEED, UM, AND COMMUNITIES THAT DO NEED IT.
NEXT TO THE CALL, THE LAW DIRECTOR TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY JERRY, UH, CALLING ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF HEBREW, JUST TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
HEY, IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE? IS THERE ONE PRESIDENT WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE ISSUE? ONCE AGAIN, I NEED A KITCHEN 62 18 ALTAR.
I ASK UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT IS CAUSING THESE WATER MAIN BREAKS.
I DON'T TRUST, UH, OH, WE'RE BYPASSING IT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSED ALL OF THESE BREAKS UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT'S CAUSING THEM.
WHY ARE WE PUTTING WORK PRESSURE AND STUFF ON THEM? WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT'S CAUSING THEM.
SO I DON'T TRUST THE, OH, WE'RE GOING TO BYPASS THIS.
I'M JUST SAYING UNTIL WE GET THIS RESOLVED, THIS NEEDS TO KIND OF BE ON THE BACK BURNER, NEXT SIDE, CALLING THE MEMBERS OF HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY TO MAKE OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OTHER THAN THE QUESTIONS ALREADY ASKED.
IS THERE ANY PERSON PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE? OKAY.
SO BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY COUNCIL WE'RE PLANNING COMMISSION CASE DC 21 DASH 34 THIS YEAR BY CLOSED.
[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For November 22, 2021 By The Huber Heights City Council For Zoning Case 21-35. The Applicant Is DDC Management. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Rezoning And A Basic Development Plan For Property Located At Chambersburg Road And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 04008 0004 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]
I CORRECT.I PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR ZONING CASE TWO ONE DASH THREE FIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS DDC MANAGEMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A REZONING AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT CHAMBERSBURG ROAD AND FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 BY THE HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR ZONING CASE 21 DASH 35 IS NOW OPEN.
AND I WOULD CALL ON CITY STAFF TO MAKE THEIR INITIAL PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT DDC MANAGEMENT IS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF IT.
BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 172 AND A HALF ACRES FOR THE VILLAGES OF WESTPORT, A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTH OF LEXINGTON PLACE ON CHAMBERSBURG ROAD WITH THE INTENT OF BUILDING 283, RESIDENTIAL LOTS SANITARY, SEWER, AND WATER WILL CONNECT TO THE CITY'S MAIN SYSTEM.
BOTH UTILITIES ARE LOCATED ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.
STORMWATER WILL BE HANDLED THROUGH A PUBLIC STORM SEWER SYSTEM, INCLUDING DETENTION BASINS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.
ALL OF WHICH FOLLOWS OUR CITY CODE.
UH, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, CHAMBERSBURG WILL BE IMPROVED TO A 45 FOOT, HALF RIGHT-AWAY SECTION PER OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND I'LL ENTER YOUR STREETS WILL BE PUBLIC WITH CURB AND SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES.
TWO STYLES OF LOTS ARE BEING PROPOSED OF THE TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE NINETY EIGHT ARE PROPOSED TO BE 70 FOOT LOTS AND WILL BE LOCATED ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY OR THE DARK SHADED LOTS ON YOUR SCREEN.
THE ADDITIONAL 185 LOTS ARE PROPOSED 51 FOOT, LOTS TO BE LOCATED ON THE INTERIOR OR THE LIGHTER SHADED LOTS ON THE SCREEN.
UH, STAFF DID RECOMMEND THAT 25% OF FRONT FACADES SHALL BE BRICK OR MASONRY.
THE PROPOSED SETBACKS FOR THIS PROJECT ARE 25 FOOT FRONT AND REAR FIVE FOOT SIDE YARD.
THE PROPOSAL ALSO CALLS FOR 101.58 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 59.4% OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, A 20 FOOT PRESERVATION ZONE, WE PLACED ALONG THE EASTERN BORDER NOW AT THE WORK ON TUESDAY.
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THAT WE HEARD WAS THE CONNECTION TO SANDAL W TO THE NORTH, AFTER A DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT CONNECTION IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.UH, ALSO DISCUSSED WAS A CONNECTION TO RUSTIC WOODS FURTHER TO THE WEST, UH, ON YOUR SCREEN, UH, BASED ON THE TOPOGRAPHY, UH, THE SPAN IN WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRIDGE THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO BRIDGE THE CREEK, UM, AND ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMIT FEES.
UH, THE CONNECTION IS NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE, EVEN WITH CITY ASSISTANCE, PLANNING, COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT FOR COMMENT AND QUESTION, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND SOME EXTRA, I WOULD CALL THE REPRESENTATIVES OF DDC MANAGEMENT FOR THEIR PRESENTATION OR COMMENTS.
UH, GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, JOHN BILLS WITH DDC MANAGEMENT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT, PROBABLY MORE TO ADD THAN, THAN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE WORK SESSION.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WITH STAFF NOW FOR, FOR CLOSE TO A YEAR ON THIS, AND WE ARE EXCITED AT THE POSSIBILITY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND, UH, THE ENTRANCE TO THE, THE NORTH AND UNLIKE WAS STATED.
I DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND RECHECK WITH OUR ENGINEERS.
AND THEN I SPOKE WITH BRIAN ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE UNABLE TO MAKE THE CONNECTION.
I FORGET THE NAME OF THE STREET, BUT FURTHER TO THE WEST THERE, I DID ALSO GO BACK AND RECONFIRM.
UM, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYBE HAD SENT IN AN EMAIL AND I'D REVIEWED IT TOO.
WE HAD AT ONE POINT LOOKED AT A CONNECTION TO THE EAST END OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISION DHEILLY, I BELIEVE, UM, THAT IT COMES OVER THERE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT ONE WAS ELIMINATED EARLY ON FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, YOU CAN TELL BY, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING IN THE PRESERVATION EASEMENT THERE, BUT THE TOPOGRAPHY BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY TO THE RIGHT AND DOWN INTO OURS, I FORGET, BUT IT'S LIKE 50 FOOT DROP OR WHATEVER.
IT'S A PRETTY STEEP DROP OFF THERE, AND IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD PER THE PUBLIC OR THE HUBER HEIGHTS, PUBLIC, UH, SPECS FOR THE ROADWAY AND BE ABLE TO TRAVERSE THE TERRAIN THERE IN ORDER TO CONNECT TO THE EAST.
THAT ONE DIDN'T COME UP LAST NIGHT, BUT IT WAS RAISED AFTER THE FACT OR LAST WEEK.
AND I WANTED TO JUST ADDRESS THAT ONE AS WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE QUESTIONS ABOUT DENSITY IN THAT WAY, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO BE PRESENTING AT 1.6, FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.
IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE OVER A HUNDRED ACRES OF GREEN SPACE, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF WHICH IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC PARK SPACE, NOT JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS HERE AND JUST FOR THE HOA OR FOR THEM THAT WILL BE CONNECTED TO BE ABLE TO BE USED BY THOSE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND IN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE TRAIL NETWORK SYSTEM AND ALL OF THAT FOR IT, AS IT CONCERNS THE CONNECTION TO THE NORTH, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION INTO THAT.
IT'S NOT NEEDED, YOU KNOW, UM, PER THE FIRE CHIEF AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED, YOU KNOW, FROM MY VIEWPOINT AS THE DEVELOPER.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAD IT IN HERE AND ARE WILLING TO DO IT IF IT'S NEEDED FOR CONNECTIVITY AND FOR OTHER REASONS THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.
UM, BUT WE WOULD BE FINE WITH ELIMINATING IT IF THAT WAS THE, THE COUNCIL'S WISHES AS WELL.
SO BEYOND THAT, UM, WE'RE JUST EXCITED AT THE OPPORTUNITY AND WOULD LOVE TO GO TO FORD, MOVE FORWARD WITH ANOTHER PROJECT WITH HUBER HEIGHTS.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR, FOR MYSELF.
THIS IS VIRTUAL, UM, WITH ALL THAT NICE GREEN SPACE, DO YOU ENVISION PUTTING IN A PARK AREA WITHIN A DEVOUT? YEP, WE DO.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH FINAL PLANS FOR THAT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON IT BECAUSE THERE IS A PORTION OF THIS THAT WILL BE DEDICATED FOR PUBLIC PARK AREA AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON WHAT ALL THAT ONE TAIL.
A LOT OF IT WILL BE PASSIVE, YOU KNOW, NATURE TRAILS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE NORTH AND THAT, UM, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, WE ARE LOOKING AT LIKE A TOT LOT LIKE A PLAYGROUND AREA AND THAT AS WELL, OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, MY ONLY QUESTION, WHERE WOULD THE PART GO AND WHERE WOULD THE PARKING BE FOR THE PARK? UM, THE FINAL PLAN AND I BELIEVE HAS IT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN FULLY IDENTIFIED, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A, AND BRIAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS.
BUT I BELIEVE WE SETTLED WITH THE CITY ON THE AREA ON TO THE RIGHT OF THE, UH, ENTRANCE ON THE RIGHT.
SO AS YOU'RE COMING IN THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THAT LARGER GREEN SPACE TO THE RIGHT THERE.
AND PART OF THAT IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE, UH, DEDICATED OVER TO THE CITY, THEY WOULD INCLUDE PARKING AND THAT WITH IT AS IT'S COMING IN
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, FOR THE DEVELOPER, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.DIRECTOR, MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
JERRY, IF YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA CALLS, ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVE THAT HE PROVIDES TO MAKE ANY COMMENT OR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OTHER THAN WHAT MR. FOSTER HAS ALREADY PROVIDED, WHICH WOULD BE NOBODY THERE, ANYONE HERE PRESENT, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS AS IN CASE, IS THERE ONE PRESIDENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE SONY CASE? I CALL THEM MEMBERS OF THE RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE HER PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF THE QUESTIONS ALREADY ASKED.
OKAY, WELL, MY ASSIGNMENTS ARE ON PRESENT, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS IN CASE.
BARRING FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION CASE ZEC 21 DASH 35 THIS YEAR BY CLOSED AND ACTUALLY HAVE ITEM 11, J
[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For November 22, 2021 By The Huber Heights City Council For Zoning Case 21-37. The Applicant Is Megan Prather. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Rezoning To Planned Mixed Use And A Combined Basic And Detailed Development Plan For Property Located At 6119 Brandt Pike And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 03912 0088 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]
ITEM 11, J A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL PRESENTING CASE 21 DASH THREE SEVEN.THE APPLICANT IS MAKING PRATER.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF REZONING TO PLAN MIXED USE AND A COMBINED BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 1 1 9 BRANT PIKE AND FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 3 9 1 2 0 0 8 8 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.
THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 BY THE HEBREW RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR ZONING CASE 21 DASH 37 IS OPEN NOW OUR NEXT CALL ON STAFF TO MAKE THEIR INITIAL PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT MAY PRAY WITH HER IS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL, BUT BASIC AND DETAILED ABOUT AND PLAN FOR ONE ACRE TO CONSTRUCT A NEW DOGTOWN FACILITY AT 61 19 BRAND PIKE.
UH, AS MR. ROGERS MENTIONED, THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR THIS PROJECT IS A PLAIN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SANITARY, SEWER, AND WATER WILL CONNECT THE CITY'S MAIN SYSTEM AT THE EDGE OF THE PARCEL AND STORMWATER WILL BE HANDLED THROUGH A PUBLIC SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH FLOWS TO AN EXISTING DETENTION BASE INTO THE SOUTHWEST 21.
PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT WITH TWO BEING ADA ACCESSIBLE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE FACILITY, UH, COMES OFF AN EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT THAT LEADS TO BRAND PIKE AND FISHBIRD ROAD.
ALL LIGHTING FOR THIS FACILITY SHALL FOLLOW CITY CODE AND LANDSCAPING IS PROVIDED IN ALL DRIVE AND PARKING ISLANDS AND AROUND THE MONUMENT SIGN, A 10 FOOT TALL MONUMENT SIGN IS PROPOSED.
STAFF DID RECOMMEND THAT THE SIGN BE LIMITED TO SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND SEVENTY-FIVE TOTAL SQUARE FEET IN THE AREA.
ONE WALL SIGN BEING PROPOSED STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THAT SIGN HAVE A MAXIMUM SIZE OF 75 SQUARE FEET.
BOTH RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE STAFF WOULD MEET THE CURRENT CITY CODE.
UH, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS PLANNED TO BE A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE, UH, CONSTRUCTED A BRICK IOFFICE AND OTHER MASONRY UNITS.
TWO OUTDOOR AREAS ARE PROPOSED, BOTH OF WHICH ARE FURTHER AWAY THAN THE CURRENT OUTDOOR AREA AT DOGTOWN.
UH, THEY WILL ALSO BE SURROUNDED BY A SIX FOOT, UH, PICKET FENCE AROUND THE OUTSIDE, UH, PARK AREAS.
PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND, UH, APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY, UH, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANY QUESTIONS.
SO NEXT I'D CALL ON REPRESENTATIVES OF MEGAN PREY THERE FOR ANY PRESENTATION OR COMMENTS YOU HAVE ONE.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JASON REGARDING THIS? OKAY.
NEXT I CALLED ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVES, CITY BRIGHTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ANYONE, ANYONE, IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING CASE? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS CASE? NEXT I CALL NUMBERS THAT HE WRITES CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION GOING ONCE.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THIS ZONING CASE?
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BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENT? THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION CASE ZEC C 21 DASH 37 IS HEREBY CLOSED.AND WE TO DO THIS ONE MORE TIME.
[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For November 22, 2021 By The Huber Heights City Council For Zoning Case 21-40. The Applicant Is Daniel Greene. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Rezoning From B-1 (Commercial) To PR (Planned Residential District) For Property Located At 4270 Murdock Avenue And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 00201 0063 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]
ITEM 11, K A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR ZONING CASE TWO ONE DASH FOUR ZERO.THE APPLICANT IS DANIEL GREEN.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF REZONING FROM
AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 BY THE RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR ZONING CASE 21 DASH 40 IS NOW OPEN.
AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL CALL HIM MR. FOSTER FOR THE PRESENTATION OF STAFF.
UH, THE APPLICANT DANIEL GREEN IS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL TO REZONE HIS FIVE LOTS TO PLAY IN RESIDENTIAL, UH, COMPANY.
THIS REZONING REQUEST BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, UH, THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUESTED THE COMBINATION, UH, OF THE FIVE LOTS TO CREATE ONE PARCEL, UH, FOR THE CONTINUED USE OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT.
UH, THESE ACTIONS WOULD, UH, CLEAN UP THE ZONING MAP, UH, TO A ONE, ONE OWNER PARCEL, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE OF MR. GREEN PRESENT FOR ANY COMMENTS? SO SIR, ANY QUESTIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL DIRECTLY TO MR. FOSTER, MR. MACDONALD, ANY OTHER PRESENTED FROM THE CITY OF HEBREW HEIGHTS WISHES TO MAKE COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ANYONE PRESENT, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE? ACTUALLY CALLING MEMBERS, IF HE WRITES CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE HER PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THIS ZONING CASE? HEY, BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING BY CITY COUNCIL WE'RE PLANNING COMMISSION CASE CC 21 DASH FOUR ZERO THIS YEAR BY CLOSED AND NEXT UP OUR AGENDA IS UNDER ADMINISTRATION AND IT IS ITEM 11, YOU KNOW, ITEM
[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning To Planned Residential And A Basic Development Plan For The Property Located At 6502 Old Troy Pike And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 04004 0003 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Tax Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Zoning Case 21-34). (first reading)]
11 L AND ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REZONING TO PLAN A RESIDENTIAL AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 5 0 2 OLD TROY PIKE AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBERAND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT WE CONFIRM, UH, THE CHAMBERSBURG ROAD SECTION IN THE GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS OR IN THE PLANNING SEGMENT.
SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN THIS ELEMENT MIGHT, UH, MIGHT MOVE FORWARD, UH, BASED ON A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH COUNCIL, UH, AT THE WORK SESSION, I BELIEVE I HAD MADE THE COMMENT THAT, UH, WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TABLE THIS PARTICULAR MINOR, UH, SO THAT WE AS STAFF COULD, UH, BRING TOGETHER, UH, ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED THEN.
UM, AND SUBSEQUENT TO MY COMMENT, MY APOLOGIES, UM, BEING A CITY MANAGER AND SITTING IN THIS CHAIR IS LIKE RIDING A BIKE.
AND, UH, SOMETIMES YOU'RE A LITTLE WOBBLY WHEN YOU START.
SO, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMUNICATION FROM THE LAW DIRECTOR ABOUT, UH, OUR COMMENTARY, UM, AND, UH, I'LL ALLOW THE LAW DIRECTOR TO, UH, TO SPEAK TO THAT.
UH, BUT OUR INTENTION FROM THE WORK SESSION WAS JUST TO PROVIDE THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION SUFFICIENT TIME SO THAT WE COULD ASSEMBLE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WANTED.
SO, UH, APOLOGIES FOR THE INCORRECT VERNACULAR.
AND WITH THAT, MR. WALDER, UH, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, UH, THE MIC IS YOURS DIRECTOR DIRECTOR.
UH, YES, WE WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE, UH, IN MY OPINION TO, UH, TABLE THIS INDEFINITELY, THE BEST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE SIMPLY TO BRING IT TO ANOTHER READING THAT WAY THERE WOULD BE A WORK SESSION BEFORE
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THAT, WHERE WE COULD GET THE INFORMATION AND THEN COUNCIL COULD ACT, UM, WE ARE REQUIRED BY OUR CODE TO TAKE CERTAIN ACTION ON ZONING ZONING REQUESTS AND TO TABLE INDEFINITELY IS NOT ONE OF THE, UM, ALLOWABLE ACTIONS.SO, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THIS MATTER, GET MOVED OVER TO A SECOND READING, GREAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THIS TO SECOND READING AND ANY OBJECTIONS TO A SECOND READING BY COUNSEL.
OKAY, SO NOW WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO A SECOND.
NEXT UP WOULD BE ITEM 11 M ITEM 11:00 AM
[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning To Planned Residential And A Basic Development Plan For The Property Located At Chambersburg Road And Further Identified As Parcel Numbers P70 04008 0004 And P70 04008 0006 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Tax Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Zoning Case 21-35). (first reading)]
AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REZONING TO PLAN RESIDENTIAL AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT CHAMBERSBURG ROAD AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBERS.TWO ONE DASH THREE FIVE AT THE FIRST READING AND BRIAN COMMENTS, PLEASE.
IN LIGHT OF THE INFORMATION SHARED AT THE WORK SESSION AND THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM COUNCIL, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL MOVE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ONTO A SECOND READING.
ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING, ASSIGN THEM TO A SECOND READING? YES.
WHEN WE MOVED THIS ONTO A SECOND READING, UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT THE GENTLEMAN GAVE US, UH, CAN WE MODIFY THE MATH TO, UH, DELETE THE CONNECTOR SO THAT THE CONVERSATION, UH, NO LONGER INCLUDES THAT AND THEIR DESIGN NO LONGER INCLUDES THAT, UH, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD, UH, WITH THE DIAL ROAD RESIDENTS, UH, WE NEVER HEARD BACK FROM THEM ON WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
AND, UM, SO I THINK THIS IS PRESUMPTUOUS OF US TO EVEN INCLUDE THAT IN THERE, WITHOUT FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS UP THERE.
AND THE OTHER REASON IS THERE ARE A LOT OF MEETINGS OF CONNECTORS AND MY DEVELOPMENT, THERE WAS A CONNECTOR TO A, UH, TO ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A FOOT PATH.
AND IF IT'S A ROAD IS FAR MORE, UH, EXPENSIVE AND, AND INTENSE AND BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD INVOLVE TAKING DOWN TREES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
SO WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE CONCEPT OF THE CONNECTOR WAS, HOW BROAD THAT IS.
I THINK IT'S PREMATURE FOR US TO BE CONSIDERING IT WITH THIS DEVELOPERS DESIGN.
SO I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT WAS PROPOSED IS AN ACTUAL ROADWAY CONNECTION THAT CARS COULD TRAVEL ON.
UM, SIMILAR TO THE SIZE OF WHAT ST.
BELLEVUE IS CURRENTLY IN TERMS OF THE WIDTH OF THE STREET.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE CONNECTION IS.
THAT'S IN THE PROPOSAL THAT THE DEVELOPER SAID THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO KEEP IN THERE, ALTHOUGH POLICE FIRE OR MAINLY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE CONNECTION, AT LEAST FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE FROM THEIR, FROM THEIR END THAT DRIVE THAT WELL, IT WAS CALLED ROAD WASN'T NECESSARY, BUT HE SAID THIS EVENING, THEY WOULD, SINCE IT WAS IN THE PROPOSAL, UH, THEY WOULD KEEP IT.
SO I KNOW A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AT THE WORK SESSION WAS THE IDEA OF, OF THE INTERCONNECTIVITY OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, OF THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT OR DIFFERENT PIECES AND PARTS BASED ON A PACKED CHAMBER HERE FOR WEEKS, I COULD NOT SUPPORT THAT.
I SIMPLY COULD NOT SUPPORT A CONNECTOR OVER THERE.
THE CITIZENS HAVE SPOKEN, AND IT WOULD BE VERY HYPOCRITICAL ABOUT US JUST TO CHARGE AHEAD AND PUT A CONNECTOR IN THERE THAT WOULD HAVE QUITE AN EFFECT ON THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK OF COURSE.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I GUESS MY POSITION, I, WE WILL BUILD IT IF THE CITY WANTS THE CONNECTOR, WE, AS THE DEVELOPER DON'T WANT A CONNECTION THERE NECESSARILY FOR IT, BUT WE HAD DONE IT ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, IN TALKING THROUGH WITH STAFF AND THAT, THAT THE THOUGHT WAS THE CITY WANTED A CONNECTOR.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL THAT WE NEED ONE, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO SELL THE COMMUNITY AND TO DO THAT.
WE WOULD BE OKAY, ELIMINATING IT, IF THAT IS WHAT, UM, THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE ONE AT US TO DO.
SO WE'LL, WE WOULD GO AT YOUR DIRECTION WITH IT EITHER WAY.
AND WHAT WOULD THAT CONNECTOR COST? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEIR PERFORMER THERE.
I MEAN THEIR NUMBERS, I HAD SIGNIFICANT
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HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WITH THE BRIDGE AND THEN, OKAY.WE'RE TALKING JUST THE CONNECTOR HAS SHOWN THE PROPOSAL TO ST.
W WHAT'S A PROPOSED CONNECTOR IS SHE'S ASKING ABOUT THE COST OF THAT, NOT THE EXTENSION OVER TO RUSTIC WOODS.
I GUESS I, YOU KNOW, THE, YEAH, THE ONE THAT AS IT'S DRAWN ON HERE, THERE'S STILL A BRIDGE THERE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN FOR THAT IT'S ONE THAT WE WERE SAYING WAS FEASIBLE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A NARROW BRIDGE.
THE STREAM BECOMES SMALLER THERE, BUT THAT ALONE I'D HAVE TO SCALE IT OFF, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY 400 FOOT OF ROAD, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ANYWHERE INTO A HALF A MILLION PLUS FOR JUST THE ROAD TO GO IN.
AND THEN YOU START GETTING INTO THE BRIDGE CROSSING AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS.
SO IT'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILLION PLUS TO PUT THE ROAD IN TO GO UP TO THERE.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS VERSUS PUTTING IN A CONNECTOR THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID, THEY DO NOT WANT, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT THOSE RE THOSE, THOSE WOODS DISTURBED, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.
THAT'S NOT W THE CITY'S NOT SPENDING THE MONEY BUILDING THE ROAD.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A COST THAT THE DEVELOPER IS DOING BECAUSE THEY, AS HE SAID, THAT'S IN THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS, THEY THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO WANT OR REQUIRE.
SO THE BACK CONNECTION THAT YOU'RE SEEING GO UP TO SANDAL VIEW, THAT'S AT THE COST OF THE DEVELOPER, NOT AT THE COST, NOT THE COST OF THE CITY.
SO I SORT UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND JUST FROM, FROM THE MICROPHONES WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, UH, THAT CONNECTOR IS NOT A CITY FIRE, BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE WHAT THAT ONE REQUIRE THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS EACH STILL WILL.
AND THAT'S SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T WORK THROUGH REALLY ON THE OTHER ONE, BUT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
SO DID WE, UM, DID WE GO OVER AND GET OUT ALL OF THE ZONING NOTIFICATIONS TO EVERYONE AND THE SIGNAGE AND THINGS AS WELL? WE TALKED ABOUT THE WORK SESSION TO THE SIGNS WERE PUT OUT, UH, AT THE DEAD END OF SANDAL VIEW AND THE DEAD END OF RUSTIC WOODS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? YES.
SO RUSTIC WOODS WOULD DEAD END INTO THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS AS THE SANDAL VIEW, THEY'RE BOTH STUB ROADS.
SO THERE WERE CUTOFF FOR WHAT I'M ASSUMING TO BE DEVELOPMENT INTO THE FUTURE.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S YIELD SIGNS, THEY'RE BASICALLY REFLECTORS.
AND WE DID PUT THE SIGNS AS REQUESTED OUT, UH, FOR ANY RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE AND AS WELL ALONG CHAMBERSBURG IN FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO, SO NANCY, ALL THAT WAS IN ADDITION TO EVERYONE THAT STILL LIVES WITHIN A TWO, WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY, GOT THE INDIVIDUAL NOTICES MAILED, BUT THE WORK SESSION WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT, HEY, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY IS, UH, IS UNDER A ZONING REQUEST TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SEE THAT AS WELL, OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, INITIAL 200, 200 FOOT THAT, THAT EVERYONE WAS, WAS MAILED.
SO I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT IS, YOU KNOW, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS, IS A SECOND READING.
UM, AND, UH, WE COULD, WE COULD PUT THIS BACK ON THE, ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR TUESDAY TO DISCUSS IT AND HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION AGAIN, AROUND THE CONNECTOR, UM, IT'S USE OR NON-USE NEED, OR NON NEED.
WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION, UH, PRIOR TO HEARING IT AGAIN AT THE DECEMBER 13TH COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE, UH, FOR THE SECOND READING.
AND I WOULD JUST HATE TO SEE THERE BE, UM, OPPOSITION TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I WISH YOU SUCCESS WITH, BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL HELP THE CITY AS A WHOLE, BUT I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE OPPOSITION COMING BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTOR.
UM, AND SO, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE WORD GOT OUT UP THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, BUT IT WILL.
WELL, AND WE WILL HAVE CERTAINLY HAVE TIME WITH OTHER WORK SESSION TOPICS.
SO AGAIN, TONY, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS ON THE, ON THE AGENDA FOR TUESDAY FOR MORE DISCUSSIONS PRIOR TO THE NEXT READING AND IT'S THREE WEEKS FOR
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THE EXTRA EXTRA WEEK.SO WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE TIME, MR. WEB.
WHEN YOU SAID THAT POLICE AND FIRE HAD SIGNED OFF THAT, UH, THERE WAS NO NEED FOR AN ACCESS ROAD.
IT WAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT SAID THEY WOULD NOT NEED THAT ACCESS FOR, FOR EQUIPMENT PURPOSES.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THEY, THE FIRE CHIEF IN A CONVERSATION WITH MR.
AND, UH, TO MY POINT, UH, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FROM A FIRE DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT, IT DOESN'T MAKE GOOD SENSE FROM PUBLIC SAFETY OR POLICING STANDPOINT.
I'LL GO BACK TO MY STATEMENT AT THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A POCKET AND IT'S VERY ISOLATED AND A POLICE OFFICER ON ONE OF THOSE COURTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFICULTY RESPONDING TO A CALL IN MR OTTO'S NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT TO CHAMBERSBURG, TO OLD TROY TO COME BACK IN OFF OF LONGFORD TO GET THEIR WAY TO THAT.
UM, OTHER DEVELOPMENT, EVEN TO THE STANDPOINT OF JUST WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE PUBLIC SERVICES, YOUR, UM, AMAZON DRIVER, I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS TO NOT HAVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTED TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I, SINCE MS. BIRD SAID THAT SHE WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT WITH THAT CONNECTOR, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I WILL LEAD THE OPPOSITION.
UH, IF THIS CONNECTOR ISN'T A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF SEEING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE DEVELOPED IN LITTLE POCKETS THAT HAVE NO ACCESS TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
MY PREFERENCE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE BEEN RUSTIC WOODS.
RUSTIC WOODS IS A MORE OF A THOROUGHFARE IF YOU WILL, IT'S LOGICAL, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE COSTS INVOLVED.
AND I WAS COPIED ON THE EMAIL FROM BRIAN, BUT SOME CONNECTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEEDS TO BE ESTABLISHED JUST FOR THE SIMPLEST OF PUBLIC SERVICES LIKE POLICING.
A SECONDARY BENEFIT IS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT NEIGHBORS CAN GET FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ANOTHER.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE TO A SECOND READING.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MR. HILL? THANK YOU.
UM, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, UM, ECHO COUNCILMAN WEBS, UM, OPPOSITION TO REMOVING THAT.
I AGREE WITH, UH, POCKETS AND, AND NOT HAVING POCKETS.
I DON'T LIKE SEEING THAT, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'VE HAD COME IN.
AND SO, YEAH, MY, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CONNECTION JUST FOR THE STANDPOINT OF WHAT HE MENTIONED, WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN IN CHAMBERSBURG ALL THE WAY AROUND AND THEN COME BACK IN.
UM, THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONNECTION RIGHT THERE.
MAY I ASK THAT, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, WE HAVE A PICTORIAL REPRESENTATION OF THAT ACTUAL CONNECTION.
SO THE ROAD, OR JUST WHERE, WHERE IT WOULD CONNECT TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN BUILDING THAT ROAD.
I WANT, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE NEIGHBORS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT AND BUILDING THAT CONNECTOR AND YOU KNOW, HOW WIDE IT'S GOING TO BE, AND JUST SO THAT THEY CAN SEE WHAT IS BEING PLANNED FROM SANDAL VIEW TO THE INSIDE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND IS THAT GOING TO BE, IS THAT GOING, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO DELAY, HE'LL GET HIS DEVELOPMENT BASICALLY BUILT, BUT IF THEY'VE GOT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS COMING IN THERE AND EVERYONE ELSE, THEY DON'T ACT QUICKLY, SO THAT CONNECTOR WILL PROBABLY BE DONE AFTER HIS DEVELOPMENT IS DONE.
SO I WOULD LIKE JUST, JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY TO HAVE A OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE CURRENT, UH, WOODED AREA IN THERE SO THAT WE CAN SEE HOW THAT'S GOING TO CUT THROUGH.
SO THAT'S THE, IS THERE A, UM, AND SO I'M PART OF WHAT YOU'VE GOT LAID OUT THERE.
ARE THERE ANY DESIGNS THAT SHOW ANY ELEVATION OF H HAS, HAS THE BRIDGE EVEN REMOTELY STARTED TO BEEN ANY KIND OF, JUST SO NONE OF THAT IS IN A DESIGN AREA WHERE SOMEBODY COULD SEE WHAT THAT'S ELEVATION OF, OF ANY OF THE ROADWAY OR THE CONNECTOR, COULD A DIGITAL RENDERING BEING DONE OF,
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OF KIND OF THAT VIEW.I CAN TRY TO WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THE TOPOGRAPHY, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SHOT.
OUR ENGINEER IS WORKING ON THE STRING CROSSING RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO DESIGN IT.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, THE PROFILE OF AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT THE STREET WILL LOOK LIKE, IT WILL STILL LOOK SIMILAR TO LIKE WHAT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF BARS.
I MEAN, MOST OF THAT SITE BACK IN THERE IS WOODED.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO CLEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY TYPICAL WOULD BE CLEARING A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE SWATH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY, UH, FOLLOWING THE PATHWAY THAT THE ROAD WOULD BE SO THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR GRADING ON EITHER SIDE AND MAKE YOUR TRANSITIONS FOR THE ROAD.
UM, SO IT WOULD STILL BE WOODED OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT A HUNDRED FOOT, UH, ROADWAY, UM, PATH THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THERE WITHIN THE BRIDGE ON THE CROSSING.
UM, WE DON'T, I CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF EITHER RENDERING OR SOMETHING.
I'LL TRY TO WORK WITH STAFF, MAYBE TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD DEPICTION OF IT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY JUST OVERLAYING IT ON AN ARIEL FOR ONE WE CAN DO THAT JUST SHOWS THE WOODED AREA AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE AREA THAT WOULD BE REMOVED OUT OF THE TREES IN THAT, UM, FOR WHAT I WAS THINKING.
SO WE CAN TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING AS AN EXHIBIT.
WHAT IS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, MAN, ASK ME FOR IT AND ENGINEERING STATE, MAYBE HAVE IT, BUT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL INCLINE FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THAT COURT TO GET UP, TO, TO GET UP TO WHERE SANDAL VIEW IS? WHAT IS WHAT'S THE ACTUAL GRADE OR, OR THE INCLINE? UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE, IN YOUR EYES, GOING FROM THE BOTTOM OF CLOUD PARK TO THE TOP OF CLOUD PARK, I MEAN, IS IT THAT TYPE OF AN INCLINE OR IS IT, AND I KNOW, I KNOW YOU DON'T, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT, BUT BRIAN, I MEAN, YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THESE ARE TWO FOR CONTOURS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL THEM, LOOKING ON HERE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE AT THE, THE, THE PEAK OF THE VALLEY OF THE RIVER, IT WOULD BE SIX, 12 TO 14 FOOT, PROBABLY LIKE YOU'RE COMING DOWN.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS BASICALLY, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE BEES, THIS IS THE CREEK WINE THAT COMES HERE.
AND SO YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE CREEK THAT HERE, AND THEN IT'S COMING BACK UP.
IT LOOKS LIKE ROUGHLY 12 TO 14 FOOT OF INCLINE FROM THE BOTTOM UP TO WHERE THESE LINES ARE HERE.
I'M PRETTY SURE THOSE ARE TWO.
SO THAT'LL BE FUN TO BICYCLE, HUH? OKAY.
SO, SO FOR 14 FEET AND THEN ABOUT WHAT'S THE DISTANCE OVER WHAT SPAN OF DISTANCE? THIS IS 120, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING OVER 240 200, OKAY.
SO 14, SO 14 FEET OVER 200, OVER 200, 2 50.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY JUST EYEBALLING IT, BUT SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.
NOTHING THAT HELPS ME BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA BEFORE.
SO YEAH, AND WE WON'T BE ALL THE WAY AT THE VALLEY, UH, WITH THE BRIDGE, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE COMING UP WITH YOUR BRIDGE ABOVE WHEREVER THAT LOW POINT IS.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE THAT FULL 14 FEET OR 12 TO 14.
IF YOU RAN IT FLAT, IT'S ABOUT 370.
SO IF YOU RAN AT LEVEL FROM WHATEVER THAT IS, THAT 3 84, I THINK IS THE NUMBER.
SO IF YOU RAN IT FROM 3 84 TO 3 84, OVER THAT CREEK, IT'S 300 AND SOME FEET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE HAVE CLEARLY TWO DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
I KNOW THERE'S STILL THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO AREN'T HERE THIS EVENING, BUT WE'RE HERE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, WAS HE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION POSSIBLE, AND THIS GIVES MORE TIME FOR CITIZEN INPUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE WE, UM, SEE IF A WORK SESSION AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THE ACTUAL, UH, SECOND READING.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
WE APPRECIATE, UH, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING, WORKING THROUGH ALL THIS WITH US AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHEN WE GET THERE.
SO MOVE THIS ON TO, UH, ONE LAST TIME.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO A SECOND READ.
AND NEXT UP AS ITEM, WE'RE SOLID 11, RIGHT? WE ARE 11 AND
[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning To Planned Mixed Use And A Combined Basic And Detailed Development Plan For The Property Located At 6119 Brandt Pike And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 03912 0088 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Tax Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Zoning Case 21-37). (first reading)]
ITEM 11 IN AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REZONING TO PLAN MIXED USE AND THE COMBINED BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 1, 1 9 BRAND PIKE AND FURTHER DESCRIBED, OR RATHER IDENTIFIED AS PERSONAL NUMBER P 7 0 0 3 9 1 2 0 0 8 8 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S TAX MAP AND ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING CASE.[02:10:01]
DASH THREE SEVEN AT THE FIRST READING.I WOULD CALL HIM MR. RICHARD CASKEY, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
UM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, IN LIGHT OF COMMENTS FROM THE WORK SESSION, TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM COUNCIL, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU MOVE THIS ONTO A SECOND READING.
AND THAT WAS THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION.
ANY OBJECTIONS? WELL, FIRST, ANY DISCUSSION PRIOR TO MOVING US ON TO A SECOND READING.
AND BEFORE WE GET TO ITEM 11, OH, WE'RE GOING TO RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES FOR A RESTROOM BREAK, UM, BEING, WE HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF US HERE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO, UH, WE'LL COME BACK AT, LET'S CALL IT NINE 16 SINCE IT'S ABOUT TO BE NINE 11.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, EVERYONE.
OR AT LEAST THEIR BLADDERS DO.
W DID I NOT MARK OFF NOW? WELL, I THINK WE'RE ON A TEMPORARY NOW.
YEAH, WE FINISHED WITH N LISA.
[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning From B-1 (Commercial) To PR (Planned Residential District) For The Property Located At 4270 Murdock Avenue And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 00201 0063 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Tax Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Zoning Case 21-40). (first reading)]
AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE RESIGNING FOR B ONE COMMERCIAL TO PR PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 42 7 0 MURDOCK AVENUE AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBERUH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, IN LIGHT OF COUNSEL'S COMMENTS AT THE WORK SESSION, AND TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING, WE'D ASK THAT COUNCIL, MOVE THIS ONTO A SECOND READING, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION BEFORE, UH, MOVING THIS ON ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS TO A SECOND READING.
NEXT UP IS ITEM 11, PETE ADAM, 11 P
[ A Resolution Authorizing The Purchase Of Employee Health Insurance Services For The City Of Huber Heights For Fiscal Year 2022 And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST STREET.RIGHT? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION, THIS IS ANNUAL REOCCURRING LEGISLATION TO PROVIDE HEALTH, DENTAL, AND VISION INSURANCE TO THE CITY'S EMPLOYEES.
WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION SO THAT WE MAY PROVIDE THESE BENEFITS TO OUR STAFF EFFECTIVE JANUARY.
THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, ADOPTION THIS EVENING, MR. HILL MOTION TO ADOPT.
IS THERE A SECOND, MR. LYONS? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECONDARY DISCUSSION.
NEXT IS ITEM 11 CUBE, UH, ITEM 11 Q
[ A Resolution Establishing And/Or Amending The City Of Huber Heights Organizational Chart And Authorizing The New Personnel Staffing Levels As Detailed Below. (first reading)]
A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING AND OR ADMITTING THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AND AUTHORIZING THE NEW PERSONNEL STAFFING LEVELS AS DETAILED BELOW AT THE FIRST READING.THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND FOLLOW UP TO COUNCIL'S WORK SAYS, EXCUSE ME, THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST WORK SESSION AND HIS ANNUAL REOCCURRING LEGISLATION TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN ALL THE RIGHT PLACES.
THERE WAS A FOLLOW-UP INFORMATION REQUESTED BY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
AND UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.
IS THERE A MOTION MS. BERG LIFTED UP FOR A SECOND.
MR. LYONS, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.
MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM.
[ A Resolution Establishing And/Or Amending The Salary Ranges And Wage Levels For Employees Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio. (first reading)]
OR RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING AND, OR ADMITTING THE SALARY RANGES AND WAGE LEVELS FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF NEW BRIGHTS, OHIO AT THE FIRST STREET.BRIAN, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AS WE DISCUSSED WITH COUNSEL AT THE WORK SESSIONS IS ANNUAL REOCCURRING LEGISLATION AND ENSURES THAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN ALL THOSE PLACES ARE PAID INAPPROPRIATE WAGE.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE TABLE FOR 2022, UH, COMPARED TO TAPE THE TABLE FOR 2021 WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.
IS THERE A MOTION MS. BURCH LIFTED UP HIS BAKER.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS? MS. BAKER? YES.
MR. WEBB MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.
[ An Ordinance Authorizing Transfers Between Various Funds Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio And Amending Ordinance No. 2020-O-2453 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2021 And Ending December 31, 2021. (first reading)]
S AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS FUNDS.THE CITY VIEW RIGHTS, OHIO AND AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 0 DASH OH DASH 2 4 5 3, BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2021 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2021 AT THE FIRST STREET.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AS WE DISCUSSED WITH COUNSEL AT THE WORK SESSION, THIS LEGISLATION IS TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO ENSURE THAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A WIND BOOK PHASE THREE, SECTION TWO, I BELIEVE AS WELL AS FOR THE ANALYST STATION PROJECT.
AND WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION.
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RECOMMENDATION WAS TO WAIT THE SECOND READING AND THEN ADOPT THIS ITEM, BUT THERE ARE ONLY FIVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL PRESENT.IT TAKES SIX MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO WAVE, UM, TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO WAIT IN THE SECOND READING.
SO WE WOULD ASK THIS MOTION BE MOVED ON TO THE DECEMBER 7TH, DECEMBER 13TH, DECEMBER 7TH IS THE WORK SESSION.
SO THE DECEMBER 13TH MEETING FOR A SECOND READING ANY OBJECTION.
NEXT IS ITEM 11, TEETH ITEM 11 T
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into Change Orders With Respect To The Construction Of The Huber Heights Veterans Memorial Project. (first reading)]
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO CHANGE ORDERS WITH RESPECT TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT AT THE FIRST READING.AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION, THIS LEGISLATION IS TO APPROVE A FINAL CHANGE ORDER TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.
THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, WHICH WAS PROVIDED.
AND UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION TO THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR EMOTION WAS A BIRCH.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS? MRS. BERG? YES.
AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 11, NEW ITEM 11
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into That Certain Fourth Amendment To The Grant Of Public Access Easement Agreement Originally Entered Into Between The City And DEC Land Co I, LLC On February 1, 2008 As Amended. (first reading)]
U W.WE USED TO GET THE DOUBLE LETTERS, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THAT CERTAIN FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE GRANT OF PUBLIC ACCESS.
EASEMENT AGREEMENT ORIGINALLY ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE CITY AND TACK LAND COMPANY, ONE LLC ON FEBRUARY 1ST, 2008 AS AMENDED AT THE BURSARY.
AS WAS DISCUSSED WITH COUNSEL AT THE WORK SESSION, THIS LEGISLATION REDUCES THE DESIGNATED OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE CARRIAGE TRAIL SUBDIVISION, BUT WITH THIS REDUCTION IN THE TOTAL ACREAGE AVAILABLE, IT EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, UH, PURSUANT TO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WORKS AS THE RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTIONS, THEIR EMOTION, YOUR SO MOVED.
IS THERE A SECOND MS. BIRCH EMOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS, MR. LYONS, MR. HILL, MR. WEBB, MS. BAKER MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO, AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 V ADAM 11 V
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into Necessary Agreements And Make Necessary Purchases Of Goods And Services With Certain Vendors And Suppliers For The Purchase, Maintenance And Service Of Equipment, Professional Services, And Miscellaneous Operating Expenses By Various Departments And Divisions Of The City Of Huber Heights For Fiscal Year 2022 And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO NECESSARY AGREEMENTS THAT MAKE NECESSARY PURCHASES OF GOODS AND SERVICES WITH CERTAIN VENDORS AND SUPPLIERS FOR THE PURCHASE MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE OF EQUIPMENT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND MISCELLANEOUS OPERATING EXPENSES BY VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST THREE.UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, THIS LEGISLATION IS ANNUAL REOCCURRING LEGISLATION AND ALLOWS US TO HAVE ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE, UH, CONTRACTS AND, UH, ARRANGEMENTS IN PLACE TO BEGIN CALENDAR YEAR 2022 IN FULL SWING.
WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
YEAH, SO I THINK THIS WAS, UH, WERE WORKS THAT STAR ACTIVATION WAS PASSING THE ITEM, THE SECOND REASON TO LEFT FOR DISCUSSION AND AMENDMENTS.
SO IT'LL BE HERE AND THERE WERE SOME STAFF CHANGES THAT THEY NEEDED TO CHANGE THESE AMOUNTS AND, UH, THAT WASN'T, UM, DONE, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THIS BEING AT THE FIRST READING.
SO, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS IT TO A SEPARATE SECOND READING SO THAT THOSE AMENDMENTS CAN BE MADE IN BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND READING.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO A SECOND READING ALSO? OKAY.
WE WILL MOVE THAT ITEM TO ANOTHER READING.
AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 W UM, 11 W A
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Purchase Various Goods And Services Required For The Ongoing Needs Of The Public Works Division For Fiscal Year 2022 And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE VARIOUS GOODS AND SERVICES REQUIRED FOR THE ONGOING NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST READING.AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION, THIS DOCUMENT IS ANNUAL REOCCURRING LEGISLATION AND ALLOWS THE FOLKS AT PUBLIC WORKS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE COMMODITIES, GOODS AND SERVICES.
THEY NEED TO ENSURE THAT SERVICES CAN BE DELIVERED EFFECTIVELY BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2022.
WE'VE BEEN ASKED COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION IF YOU HAVE, UNLESS YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, THAT WORK SESSION ON ADOPTION, MR. HILL MOVED TO ADOPT MS. BIRCH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.
RIDERS, MR. HILL, MR. WEBB, MS. BAKER, MRS. BERG.
AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 X ITEM 11 X, THE RESOLUTION
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For Abandoning The Jonetta Street Pump Station And Extending The Sanitary Sewer And Waiving The Formal Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR ABANDONING THE JANETTA STREET PUMP STATION AND EXTENDING THE SANITARY SEWER AND WAVING THE FORMAL BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST READING AND BRIAN.AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AUTHORIZING STAFF TO TAKE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO ADDRESS THE GENETIC PRIVATE LAW LIFT STATION AND INSTALL PUBLIC SEWER TO RELIEVE THOSE RESIDENTS OF THEIR PARTICULAR ISSUE.
WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION UNLESS
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THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.BRIAN RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION, MR. LYONS.
SO MOVED MS. BIRCH, YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THIS EVENING? OKAY.
AND BUSH AND CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO.
THE NEXT UP IS OUR NUMBER 12, WHICH IS CITY
[12. City Official Reports and Comments]
OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING? THE CDC, MR. LYONS, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
IF I MAY JUST A QUICK WORD ABOUT A FORMER COUNCIL WOMAN, LOU DALE.
UH, I HAD A PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH HER AND SHE WAS AN UTTER DELIGHT TO WORK WITH ON COUNSEL GAVE ME EXCELLENT ADVICE, DEALING WITH PERSPECTIVE AT TIMES, UH, WORKED VERY WELL.
AND AS I WAS WORKING WITH HER, UM, SHE WAS A GREAT, UH, LEADER FOR HER CONSTITUENCY IN WARD ONE, BUT THE PASSION SHE HAD FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF OUR CITY, UM, UH, MRS. DALE AND I ARE BOTH WORKER BEES.
UM, IN OUR PERSPECTIVE FULL-TIME JOBS AND, UM, THE PASSION SHE WENT, UH, WITH PROTECTING EMPLOYEES, POINTING OUT TO ADMINISTRATORS, UM, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE HER, UM, LEVEL OF, UH, AWARENESS OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, UH, I'M PROUD TO CALL HER A FRIEND AND I, AND SHE'S DEARLY MISSED ON THE DYESS, UH, JUST A WONDERFUL PERSON TO WORK WITH.
UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT MS. DALE AND I'M SURE SHE APPRECIATES THOSE AT ONE WITH HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THIS EVENING, MR. WEB, THANK YOU MIRROR.
THIS COMMENT IS JUST ABOUT, UH, WHAT HAPPENED LAST SATURDAY AND, UH, UM, WHAT A WONDERFUL THING THE CITY HAS DONE FOR THE YOUTH AND THE YOUNG AT HEART IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH MANITA PARK.
UM, I WAS THERE EARLY, ALONG WITH THE MIRROR AND, UH, UH, SAW COUNCILWOMAN FIRST THERE.
UM, MANY OF YOU, IT WAS PHENOMENAL, THE, UH, THE PARENTS WITH THEIR KIDS OF ALL AGES, ENJOYING EVERY ASPECT OF THAT PARK JUST TO THE FULLEST WAS IT WAS BREATHTAKING CITY COUNCIL HAD A LOT OF DISAGREEMENTS WHEN IT CAME TO ANITA PARK.
THERE WERE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANTED TO SEE A PART OF IT PUT OVER IN THIS PARK AND A PART OF IT PUT OVER IN THAT PARK.
BUT AS IT WORKED OUT, HAVING EVERYTHING PUT IN ONE LOCATION WAS TRULY A STROKE OF GENIUS ON A WHETHER INTENDED OR NOT ON BEHALF OF THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS PARENTS WERE PULLING UP WITH KIDS OF ALL AGES AND WATCHING THEM SCATTERED AT EACH ONE OF THE DIFFERENT AMENITIES OFFERED IN THE PARK.
IT WAS TRULY A SUCCESS FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND MY HATS OFF TO, UM, ESPECIALLY OUR PARKS MANAGER, JOSH, UH, FOR DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND BRINGING THIS COMMUNITY TOGETHER AROUND SOMETHING THAT UP UNTIL A FEW YEARS AGO, I HAD NO IDEA WAS EVEN A THING, BUT IT IS A THING.
AND IT'S A BIG THING IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND I THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE.
YOU KNOW, BEING THERE, I MET PEOPLE FROM, UH, SPRINGFIELD FROM NEW CARLISLE, FROM FAIRBORN.
UM, THERE WAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT CAME UP FROM CHILLER COFFEE, UH, TO BE THERE AT THE SOFT OPENING ON SATURDAY.
SO, UH, IT CERTAINLY WAS A REGIONAL DRAW, NOT JUST SOMETHING LOCAL AND, UH, I THINK AS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND IN THE SPRING AND WHETHER IT GETS NICER, I, I DO, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING, UH, PRETTY SPECIAL UP THERE THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ENJOY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.
AND, AND I THINK I CAN SAY, UH, WITH CONFIDENCE THAT THIS TURNED OUT EVEN BIGGER THAN WE EVEN IMAGINED, THE, THE OUTPOURING, THE ENTHUSIASM THAT I MADE PEOPLE FROM 50, PROBABLY I'M GUESSING HE WAS 55.
MIGHT'VE BEEN OLDER, YOU KNOW, USING THE TRA AND USING THE, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, BIKE AMENITIES AND DOWN TO THE SMALLEST ONE WHERE THE KID WAS BEING WITHSTANDING ON ESCAPE BOARD AND HIS FATHER WAS PULLING HIM.
IT WAS JUST THE CUTEST THING EVER SEE IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE, HUGE SUCCESS.
NO DOUBT IN MY MIND WENT BY THE DAY AND THEY'RE PUTTING HIM MORE, MORE, UH, UH, RAILING AND STUFF ON IT.
UM, AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
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MANDY FROM THE ANYONE ELSE.[13. Executive Session]
EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE IS A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING, MR. ROGERS.IT WOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING PERSONNEL MATTERS TO CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE.
IS THERE A MOTION, MR. LIGHTS? SO MOVED SECOND, MR. WEBB, SECOND EMOTION.
AND THE SECOND MR. ROGER, MS. BAKER.
THE MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.
UH, ONCE WE ARE FINISHED, WE WILL COME OUT AND, UH, ADVISE OF ANY ACTION.
IT'S NOW 9 32, AND WE WILL MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IT IS NOW 9 38, AND WE'VE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE, UH, SOME, UH, ACTION WAS AGREED TO.
SO MR. WALL, DIRECTOR MCDONALD, IF YOU WOULD, UM, KIND OF LET THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHAT TOOK PLACE THERE AND THEN WHAT THE MOTION WOULD BE PLEASE.
UH, WE, WE SIMPLY DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE CITY MANAGER, UM, AND HOW, UM, MR.
UM, WE SET A TEMPORARY BASIS, AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UM, WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON MAKING IT MORE OFFICIAL AS TO OFFICIAL INTERIM CITY MANAGER POSITION UNTIL WE GET IT FILLED.
BUT TONIGHT I'M JUST ASKING THAT COUNCIL, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO POINT MR.
THE, UH, BRIAN BE APPOINTED TO THE DUTIES OF THE MANAGER AND EVERYTHING.
JERRY JUST SAID, MR. LYONS, SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ASSUMING MR. CHUCK KOSKI, ARE WE BEING PRESENTED? UM, YES.
I'M VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN SERVING IN THE ROLE.
UH, AND I WILL HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH MR. MCDONALD, UH, FOLLOWING COUNSELING.
UH, YES, AS YOU SHOW UP FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION, SO WE'LL DISCUSS FURTHER.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MR. ROGERS? MRS. BERG? YES.
IT IS NOW NINE 40 AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.