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WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHY THEY CALLED AND SAID, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT.

[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]

HEY, GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, BEING HERE OR TUNING IN THIS EVENING FOR THIS, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UH, KIND OF SPECIAL WORK SESSION, UH, TO DISCUSS OUR REDISTRICTING OF THE WARD LINES BASED ON OUR POPULATION GROWTH.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING, AS WE GET THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION.

UH, SO THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.

IT IS 6 0 3.

AND MR. ROGERS, WOULD YOU GET MR. SHAW HERE? MS. BAKER, MR. CAMPBELL, MRS. SPURGE, MR. OTTO HERE, MR. LYONS, MR. HILL HERE.

MR. WEBB HERE, MAYOR GORD.

OKAY.

AND THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT.

SO WE DO HAVE A COURT PROCEEDINGS WHO WILL, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE.

UH, NUMBER

[2. Approval of Minutes]

TWO IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

THERE WAS, UH, ITEM TWO EIGHT IS NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021.

WE DO HAVE SOME MINUTES, THOSE MINUTES WILL BE, UH, APPROVED.

THEY'VE BEEN DISTRIBUTED AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, OKAY, SO THOSE MINUTES, UH, FROM NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021 WILL BE APPROVED.

[ Ward Redistricting]

AND NEXT UP IS UNDER A THREE, WHICH IS THE REASON WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING, WHICH IS, UH, ITEM THREE A AND THAT IS THE WORD REDISTRICTING.

SO I'M GOING TO TURN OVER AT THIS POINT TO MR. ROGERS, MR. ROGERS HAS PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO MAYBE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE BEGINNING TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON HOW WE HAVE TO MOVE SOME OF THESE THINGS AROUND BASED ON, UM, THE, THE ORC I GUESS, AND WHAT OUR, UM, WHAT OUR WORD LINES ARE.

AND THEN, UH, THE PLAN WILL BE FOR TONY THEN TO GO DOWN, UM, OR THEN COMPUTER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE CAN DO SOME OF THE BIGGER VERSION, MANEUVERING, MOVING SOME THINGS AROUND AND GET SOME DIFFERENT POPULATION TOTALS SO WE CAN KIND OF BE INTERACTED WITH THAT.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE, UH, SOME NUMBERS WHERE WE THINK THAT MIGHT WORK AND SOME DISCUSSION, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK WITH SOME MORE, UH, CONCRETE NUMBERS AND REALLY GET DOWN TO WHERE THOSE LINES WILL BE REDRAWN.

SO, UM, MR. ROGERS, APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES IN A GENERAL SENSE, AND SO WE'RE INTO THE NITTY GRITTY PART OF IT NOW.

SO, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN, AND WHAT I PASSED OUT TO COUNCIL HERE IS BASICALLY AN OVERVIEW MAP THAT SHOWS THE CITY SIX WARDS AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST WITH THEIR LINES.

AND THEN OVERLAID ONTO TOP OF THAT MAP IS THE 2020 US CENSUS DATA BY POPULATION.

AND, UM, YOU'LL SEE ON THIS, THAT THERE'S AN, EACH WARD, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF LITTLE CELLS OR PODS OF, UH, MULTICOLORED, UM, PIECES, UH, THAT EACH HAVE A NUMBER ATTACHED TO THEM.

THE NUMBER THAT IS REFLECTED WITHIN, UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS CELLS IS THE POPULATION BASED ON THE 2020 US CENSUS RESULTS, UM, FOR THAT PARTICULAR GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.

UM, I'VE GONE AHEAD AND PLOTTED ONTO THIS MAP ALSO, UH, THE HOME RESIDENCES OF THE EXISTING COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WARD FOUR, UH, WITH, UH, MR. HILL'S IMPENDING DEPARTURE, UM, I PLOTTED, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER, A LAX HOME ADDRESS, UH, AND TOWARD FOR, UH, TO REFLECT THAT SO THAT YOU COULD, UM, BE AWARE OF THOSE LOCATIONS.

UH, THE MAIN REASON FOR THAT IS THAT, UM, A MEMBER OF COUNCIL MUST RESIDE WITHIN THE WARD, UH, THAT THEY WERE ELECTED FROM.

UM, PART OF OUR PROCESS HAS BEEN, UM, IN THE PAST TO, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT ALL THESE FACTORS, BUT NOT, UH, DRAW SOMEBODY WHO'S AN EXISTING SEAT OUT OF THEIR WARD EITHER.

UM, SO THE LITTLE RED DOTS REFLECT THE SIX WARD COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, THERE'S A GREEN DOT, I BELIEVE FOR THE TWO AT-LARGE, UM, MEMBERS AND THEN A ORANGE DOT FOR THE MAYOR'S RESIDENCE.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO THE COMPUTER TONY REAL QUICK, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THE CURRENT POPULATION NUMBERS ARE? YOU GOT THE, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

WELL, THESE ARE TEENY TINY, ALL THIS STUFF IS TANIUM.

OKAY.

SO THE ANSWER TO, UH, MR. SHAWLS, UH, QUESTION ABOUT POPULATION, UH, BASED ON THE U S CENSUS, UH, THE TOTAL POPULATION OF HUBER HEIGHTS WAS 43,439, UH, PEOPLE.

SO

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I'M BREAKING THAT DOWN BY WARD.

WE IN WARD ONE, THERE'S A POPULATION CURRENTLY OF, UH, 6,427.

AND WARD TWO, THE POPULATION IS 11,198, WARD THREE, UH, 63 62 WARD FOUR IS 62 0 3, WARD FIVE IS 64 61 AND WARD SIX IS 6,788.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, WAR II IS OBVIOUSLY THE MAJOR ISSUE THAT THERE'S BEEN MOST SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF GROWTH WITHIN WARD 64.

I'M SORRY.

I KIND OF GOT TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS BASED ON THE LISTING THAT WE'VE GOT HERE.

UM, FOR WAR TWO, YOU SAID HOW MANY LOVE 1,198? THIS SHOWS THE 11 0 4 7 ON THIS PAGE FOR THE TOTAL WAR TWO.

WHERE ARE YOU GETTING A THOUSAND OR 47? THAT IS THE US CENSUS POPULATION TOTALS BY WARD PDF SHOWS THAT 1100 FEET.

THESE ARE THE NUMBERS BASED ON THE GIS OVERLAY.

THAT SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE.

I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT DID YOU SAY? ELEVEN ONE ELEVEN, ONE NINETY EIGHT, A HUNDRED FIFTY.

AND THEN ON, UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER WARD FIVE.

YOU SAID, HOW AM I? HOW MANY? 64 61.

OKAY.

WARD 6 67, 67 88, THIS FOR 69 39.

OKAY.

UM, THESE WERE JUST GIVEN TO ME TODAY IS THE LATEST NUMBERS FROM THE GIS PEOPLE, BUT I CAN ASK HIM TO CLARIFY THOSE DESCRIBING.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT HUGE, BUT ON AVERAGE IS WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, LIKE, UH, A MARGIN OF ERROR OF 5%.

SO BASED ON THE TOTAL POPULATION OF, UM, 43 FOR 39, UH, THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY WHAT WE'D BE SHOOTING FOR IS 7,240 RESIDENTS PER WARD.

AND THE 5% DIFFERENTIAL WOULD BE 362.

UM, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO EXCEED THAT IN A DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN ANY OF THEM.

SO, UH, SO WE, WE DO HAVE A DIFFERENTIAL.

SO THE NUMBERS THAT MR. OTTO IS REFERENCING, WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THAT DIFFERENTIAL, BUT WE'LL CLARIFY THEM ANYWAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

ROUGHLY.

THEY'RE ABOUT THE SAME, THEY'RE OFF A FEW HUNDRED.

OKAY.

SO, UH, BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS THEN, UM, WARD ONE NEEDS TO GAIN, UM, APPROXIMATELY 813, UH, PEOPLE OR TWO NEEDS A REDUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 3,958 PEOPLE OR THREE NEEDS TO GAIN ADA, APPROXIMATELY 878 WARD, FOUR NEEDS TO GAIN APPROXIMATELY 1037 WORD FIVE NEEDS TO GAIN APPROXIMATELY 779.

AND WARD SIX, UM, HAS THE LEAST NEED OF ADJUSTMENT, WHICH IS, UH, APPROXIMATE GAIN OF 452, UH, 8 78.

SO TONY, I'M SORRY, COULD I GET A WAR ONE AND TWO AGAIN, THE APPROXIMATE AGE OR LOSSES THAT NEED TO BE MADE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? I HAVE IT NOW.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, SO HISTORICALLY, UM, WELL THIS WAS DONE 10 YEARS AGO.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAD TO BE MADE AT THAT TIME IS WARD SIX WAS BROUGHT ACROSS THE BOUNDARY LINE OF BRANT PIKE AND OVER INTO THIS AREA HERE, UM, WHICH IS NOW PART OF WORD SETS TO ADJUST FOR POPULATION AT THAT TIME.

UM, AT THE TIME OF THE LAST, UH, PROCESS, THIS LITTLE POCKET HERE BELOW INTERSTATE SATURDAY, WHICH IS PART OF WAR II CURRENTLY, UH, WAS RETAINED, UM, IN THIS AREA, UM, KIND OF OUTSIDE THE LINES BECAUSE THE, UM, PREVIOUS WAR TWO COUNCIL MEMBER HAD RESIDED IN THIS AREA AT THE TIME.

UM, AS PART OF THAT PROCESS ALSO, UH, WARD SIX ALSO CAME ACROSS BRANT

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PIKE IN THIS AREA HERE, WHICH WAS FORMERLY WAR THREE.

AND AS THE AREA, UH, BETWEEN, UH, INTERSTATE 70 AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALL ROAD.

SO, UM, THOSE WERE THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT TOOK PLACE AT THE LAST TIME THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AS LARGE OF A POPULATION INCREASE AND NOT AS LARGE OF A POPULATION INCREASE, CONCENTRATED IN ONE MORE.

UM, THIS IS THE, UH, MIAMI MONTGOMERY COUNTY LINE RIGHT HERE RUNS ACROSS THE TOP.

AND, UH, THIS POCKET HERE THAT'S, UM, IN MIAMI COUNTY, IS THERE MORE THAN ONE.

SO, UM, THIS IS WHERE THE INTERESTING PART BEGINS TO TAKE PLACE, WHICH IS TO TRY TO, UM, REDRAW THESE LINES, UM, RETAINING PEOPLE IN THEIR WARDS, UH, TRYING TO DEVELOP THE POPULATION CONSISTENCY.

UM, ALSO TRYING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ULTIMATELY ARE IMPACTED BY A CHANGE IN WARD.

AND BECAUSE OF THIS IS ALL CONCENTRATED TO THE NORTH, THIS, THESE POPULATION CELLS, AS THEY EXIST ON THIS MAP NEED TO BE PROGRESSIVELY MOVED, UM, FROM THE NORTH HERE TO EITHER THE EAST, WEST OR SOUTH.

AND THEN, UM, THERE'S KIND OF A CASCADING EFFECT THAT AS SOME OF THAT'S PUSHED DOWN HERE FURTHER INTO WARD THREE, ONE AND SIX, THEN THERE MIGHT BE A RIPPLE EFFECT WHERE THE LOWER PART OF WARD THREE, IT NEEDS TO BE PUSHED IN TO WARD FOUR AND CORRESPONDINGLY THE LOWER PART OF WORK FOR, AND AWARD FIVE, UM, TO KIND OF SHIFT THAT POPULATION, SOUTHWARD, EASTWARD, AND WESTWARD.

SO, UM, IT'S AT THIS POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, WAY, UH, UH, GAME AS TO HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED OR A STRATEGY ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED IN THAT RESPECT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE INITIAL PART OF THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE, UH, TAKING SOME OF THESE CELLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN BOARD TOO, AND START MIGRATING THEM TO, OR ONE SEX AND, UM, THREE AND THREE, CORRECT.

WHAT IS YOUR CHARTER SAY, MR. ROGERS CHARTER, DOESN'T SPEAK A LOT TO THIS EXCEPT TO SAY, UH, THE, UM, YOU HAVE TO BE CLOSED ANKLE AND, UH, SITTING BOARD MEMBER HAS TO LIVE, UH, RESIDE IN THEIR WARD THAT THEY'RE ELECTED.

DOES IT SAY WE, HOW MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE, HAS TO BE YEAH.

IT SPECIFIES THAT THERE'S, THAT'S DIVIDED AS SEX.

YOU'RE ONLY TO EVER BE SIX.

WELL, LET'S CHANGE THE CHARTER.

I'M JUST ASKING.

YEAH.

MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS, LET'S ADD A COUNCIL MEMBER AND ANOTHER AT LARGE, WELL, THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE PROFIT.

OKAY.

I'M JUST ASKING.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, I'M REDOING THE CHARTER, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE VOTERS.

OKAY.

THIS PROCESS IS LARGELY GOVERNED BY THE OHIO REVISED CODE.

UM, AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

I KIND OF BRIEFED YOU ON THAT.

UH, LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS IS HOW THAT APPLIES TO THAT.

AND THAT'S ALSO, UH, WHAT, WHICH ESTABLISHES SINCE DEADLINE.

THIS HAS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

I GOT THAT PART.

YEAH.

TONY CAN, CAN THIS BE LIKE, CAN YOU INTERACTIVELY JUST LIKE MOVE LINES AND SEE NUMBERS ADJUST? IS THERE, YEAH, IT'S NOT THAT FANCY.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD 10 YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE JUST TAKING A PAPER MAP AND COLORING IT IN AND DOING IT BY HAND.

SO WHAT I CAN DO ON THIS IS, UM, I CAN HIGHLIGHT AREAS OF CELLS AND THEN, UH, USE THE GIS PROGRAM TO CALCULATE A TOTAL ATTACHED TO THOSE CELLS SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE POPULATION WOULD BE IF THIS WOULD BE MOVED TO ONE SIDE OR ANOTHER.

OKAY.

SO YOU MENTIONED, OBVIOUSLY YOU MENTIONED MOVING PART OF TOO, OBVIOUSLY IT'S EITHER ONE, SIX OR THREE IS HOW THAT GETS MOVED DOWN.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE, LIKE MAYBE TO, TO EXPAND ONE IN SIX NORTH? SO YOU'RE NOT JUST TAKING EVERYTHING INTO AND SQUISHING IT DOWN, BUT WE'RE KIND OF MOVING IT TO THE SIDE.

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SO WHERE YOU HAVE PART OF WORK, ONE THAT IS CONTINUES END UP INTO MIAMI COUNTY OF CARRIAGE TRAILS, PART OF WARD SIX ON THE EASTERN EDGE, NORTH UP INTO CARRIAGE TRAILS.

AND THEN YOU JUST KIND OF THAT MIDDLE SECTION THAT YOU NOW HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MOVING NOW.

SO DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE A LITTLE MORE SENSE THAN JUST TRYING TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT'S INTO? OH YEAH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO ONE, SIX AND THREE.

UM, THE OTHER PIECE TO THIS IS IT HAS TO BE CONTINUOUS, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN HAVE, UH, A POD THAT'S OFF BY ITSELF.

THAT'S IN ANOTHER WARD THAT IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO IT.

SO, UH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT GROWING ONE IN SIX SENTENCES THAT ALREADY.

YEAH.

LIKE I MENTIONED, SIX IS ALREADY OVER, YOU KNOW, JUMPED THIS LINE OVER HERE.

SO A LOGICAL EXTENSION FOR ADDING ON TO SIX WOULD BE TO, UM, GO NORTH HERE AND BRING SOME OF THESE PIPES IN TOWARDS SIX, AND THEN MAYBE EVEN POTENTIALLY ELIMINATE THIS, UH, PIPE HERE OR THIS GROUPING, UH, THAT IS IN WARD SIX.

NOW I'M PUSHING THAT BACK INTO WAR THREE AND BRINGING THIS LINE BACK TO BRYANT PIPE.

UM, YEAH.

CAUSE ESPECIALLY CAUSE WE'RE WORD SIX NEEDS THE LEAST AMOUNT ADDED TO IT.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE SIX AND KEEP THAT LINE ALONG BRAND FOR A MOVE SIX TO THE NORTH, THEN YEAH.

THAT ALLOWS US TO, UM, TAKE THAT SECTION OF THAT SIX DOWN AND MOVE IT BACK TOWARD THREE.

AND IT MAKES THAT EDGE LYING BARRIER THAT EXISTED PREVIOUSLY UNTIL 10 YEARS AGO, WHICH WAS WARD SETS WAS BOUNDED ENTIRELY BY GLENN.

YEAH.

UM, THE, THE OTHER, I THINK HITCH IN THIS, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

BUT I THINK A STEP BEFORE THAT IS, UM, FIGURING OUT FIVE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, PROBABLY HAVE TO PUSH FIVE OUT, PICK UP SOME ABOUT THE BOTTOM OF SIX.

THEN WE CAN MAKE THE ONE IN SIX ADJUSTMENTS AND JUST, JUST ADJUST THOSE LINES DOWN ON TWO, THREE AND FOUR, BECAUSE WE GOT TO COVER FIVE AND CAUSE EVERYBODY, NO YOU'RE RIGHT.

CAUSE EVERYTHING RIGHT.

CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO END UP WHERE EVER WHERE NOW YOU'VE GOT THIS BUBBLE AT THE BOTTOM AND FIVE AND THEN NO PLACE TO SUPPORT YEAH.

TO GOING TO PLACE YOUR PICK.

ANY OF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH.

SO MAYBE IF WE BRING OUT FIVE AND PICK UP THAT LITTLE CHUNK TO THE NORTHEAST AND SIX, THE GIS APPLICATION HERE THAT WE CAN BRING SOME OF THIS IN HERE AND FINDS ME TO GIVE YOU, YOU BLOCKED YOUR RENT, THE PIG FIBER FIRST, AND THEN WE CAN BRING SIX AND ONE IN THIS WAY IN 2, 3, 4, LIKE THE IDEA I LIKE THAT TOO.

IT, THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THEN BASED ON WHAT GLEN WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE PICKED UP EVERYTHING SOUTH OF FITCHBURG.

THIS IS YEP.

SO WHAT I CAN DO WITH THIS TOOL IS YOU CAN, UM, GONNA HAVE TO SET THE MICROPHONE DOWN, JUST TALK LOUD, HIGHLIGHT THESE WE GOT TO ADD ABOUT 600 TO FIVE OR SEVEN YOU TAKE ALL OF THESE BEER STATISTICS POPULATION AND THOSE TOTAL 1300.

SO THAT'S TOO MANY THAT'S ROUGHLY THREE TIMES.

PROBABLY NEED TO GO START AT THE SILENT

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I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE LITTLE PIECE OF SOFTWARE FOR THE 69.

WELL, EVEN IF YOU, HOW MANY DOES THAT MAKE MORE SENSE? UM, SO THIS RIGHT HERE, WHEN HIGHLIGHTED WOULD HAVE 830, UH, TO AWARD FIVE, WHICH NEEDS AT LEAST 7 79 AND, UH, IT WOULD SUBTRACT 769 FROM WARD 6 69 FOR MORTON FOR, AND START TO CLOSE SOME OF THOSE POCKETS.

WHAT DID HE DO TO 6, 7 69? WE GOT TO PICK UP 14 OR SO.

SO THAT GIVES YOU A 1400 TO PICK UP IF WE MOVE SIX MORE THAN TO SEE TEETH.

RIGHT.

WELL THEN THERE'S ALSO THAT POCKET POTENTIALLY IS ANOTHER ONE.

OKAY.

THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE GIS THING IS ONCE I GOT AWAY FROM THIS, DO YOU WANT TO DO A SNIPPING TOOL AND SAVE THAT PICTURE? JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU SELECTED.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

THAT'S YEAH.

I KIND OF GOT AN IDEA.

I GRIND GRINDING THE NUMBERS DOWN HERE.

OKAY.

WHERE WOULD THAT BE? A START.

AND THEN JUST IF YOU'RE ABLE TO TYPE, JUST TYPE S N AND THEN THAT ONE THERE, SNIPPING SKIP THE TOP ONE.

AND THEN YOU CAN JUST CLICK NEW, MOVE THE WINDOW OUT OF THE WAY.

NOW I'M THINKING ABOUT 20% OF MY BAR ON THE TOP.

YEAH.

JUST CLICK ON THE BAR ON THE TOP AND MOVE IT OUT OF THE WAY.

NOW, OPEN IT BACK UP AND CLICK ON THE TOUR.

UH, JUST UP A LITTLE BIT INTO THE RIGHT.

ACTUALLY I THINK YOU

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CAN CLICK THERE AND MOVE IT.

OH, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT THIS WAS ACTUAL TOOL TO CLIP.

OH, IT IS.

BUT YOU NEEDED TO MOVE IT OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT YOU CAN DO THE SNIP.

OKAY.

SO NOW CLICK NEW AND THEN YOU'RE JUST CUT AND THEN A FILE SAVE AS AND WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO CALL IT.

YEAH.

I HAVE A TWO BUTTON PUSH ON .

YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO A FREE FORM.

OPTIONAL.

NOT TONIGHT.

RICHARD, NOT TONIGHT.

THE ONE-ON-ONE CLASS.

IT'S EVEN EASIER COMMANDS.

THIS IS SIMPLE.

HE'S GOING TO CLEAR THAT UP.

THEN YOU JUST EARNED ALL YOUR MONEY FOR THE LAST FOUR MINUTES.

OKAY.

SO WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO NEXT, PERSONALLY? I THINK WE NEED TO WORK 6, 7 1 COMING IN TO CARRIAGE TRAILS BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE CAN JUST BE ADJUSTED TO 300.

WE WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS AREA HERE.

LET'S GET THE ELBOW.

WELL, SHOULD WE PUT THAT BACK? I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT ONE SECTION OF SPACE BACK INTO, BACK INTO THREE.

UM, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 200 VOTERS IN THE BOARD HERE.

SO THAT'S 8 75 REMOVED FROM SIX MORE ALBUMS. I'VE GOT A BUMP FOR AS WELL, THREE AND FOUR.

I'LL JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DO SO THOSE GOING INTO THREE GIVES THREE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE .

JUST THE WINDOWS KEY SHIFT ELLS.

I DON'T SEE.

I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ON WINDOWS LONG ENOUGH.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

THAT'S WHAT I USE.

CLICK ON IT.

OFF OF A WARD SIX, THEN WE'D HAVE TO, UH, MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION HERE NOW.

OKAY.

SO SIX, WE STARTED WITH, UM, LEADING FOR 52.

WE HAVE, UM, SUBTRACTED 7 69 FROM THE WINTER WARD FIVE AND WE SUBTRACTED 8 75 FROM THAT, WENT TO WARD THREE.

SO NOW WARD SIX WOULD NEED TO HAVE ADDED BACK, UM, 1192, 1100.

SO IF WE START, WE CLICKING IN THIS CONTIGUOUS AREA,

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FOR SOME REASON THAT ONE IS ALL LINKED.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE THAT ISSUE RIGHT HERE TOO.

WHAT'S IN THAT AREA.

LET'S TAKE THAT.

LET'S CLEAR THAT, UM, THIS WOULD BE THE COUNTY LINE RIGHT HERE.

SO THAT WOULD BE CARRIAGE TRAILS OKAY.

SO LET'S TRY NOT PUTTING THAT 5 45 1 IN BECAUSE THAT ONE, WELL, SEE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT CONNECTS TO THIS OTHER HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS ZERO WE NEED TO AS THE POPULATION, I CAN'T EVEN SEE WHAT THE IF YOU SWAP FROM 1 94 IN THE 2 0 1, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SUCH A WEIRD PIECE OF LAND.

UH SO MANY IS BECAUSE THERE'S SEE THERE'S A WINDOW BECAUSE , IT'S JUST GOING TO BE WEIRD.

CAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SECTION FOUR, SECTION 24 RUNS THIS WAY.

THAT'S GOING TO HAVE WORD SIX SOUTH.

SO I WOULD RATHER REMOVE THE TOP SECTION THAT GOES OVER TO THE RIGHT AND THEN ADD THE ONE 20 SWAP THE 1 24.

YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE WITHIN THE MARGIN.

DID YOU COUGH IT UP?

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I DON'T SEE THE 1 21 RIGHT NOW.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE THERE'S A SECTION OR IT'S GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WHAT IF WE TOOK OFF THE SECTION ABOVE THAT? IT GOES ALL OVER TO THE RIGHT.

ADD THE 1 24, BUT WHAT'S THE NUMBER ON TOP 2 0 1.

I GUESS WELL, WHAT HAPPENS? YOU KNOW THE 1 24 YOU TAKE OFF THE 2 0 7 DOWN BELOW WHERE YOU GOT 2 0 7 DOWN BELOW THERE.

IF WE TAKE THAT OFF AND PUT IN THE 1 24 BY THEM.

SO IT'S MORE CONTINUOUS IF YOU REMOVE THAT WITHIN THE VARIOUS.

UM, I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THAT TO MAKE THE LINES CLEANER.

YEAH.

I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO KEEP IT ON BLOCKS.

YEAH.

SO IF YOU TOOK OUT THAT 2 0 7 UM, THE ONLY THING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH IS THAT, IS THAT ONE PIECE THAT'S SOMEHOW LINKED TO VERIFY THAT WE LOSE THERE BECAUSE AS IT STANDS AND HOW THE DA IS WEIRD AND THEY'RE NOT EFFECTIVELY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WAS 1219.

SO THAT'S 1219 OF THE 39, 58 WHEN YOU LOSE UP TO OKAY.

AND UM, I DON'T THINK WE'VE TAKEN ANYTHING AWAY FROM THERE'S THAT LITTLE PIECE OF TWO SOUTH OF JOEL.

WHEN DID HE TELL, WANT TO TRY TO PUT THAT BACK INTO AND THREE

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LITTLE CHUNK OF, OH, THIS PART HERE PULL UP 70.

I THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN TWO, THREE AND FOUR.

YEAH.

UH, I THINK THE NEXT THING WOULD BE TO BRING WARD ONE OVER AND GET IT THEN CALCULATE WHERE WHAT'S REMAINING HERE IN THE CENTER IN MID PART OF WAR TO GET STATS NUMBER.

AND THEN ANYTHING BELOW THAT POINT IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET PUSHED OUT.

SO, UM, CORRECT.

AND WE CAN GO, I MEAN THE LOGICAL PLACE WOULD BE HERE, START WITH THAT ONE.

WELL, THE PROBLEM IS IS YOU GOT THIS 8 67 WOULD DO IT ALONE MORE THAN DO IT.

WHY DON'T YOU HAVE TO START AND YOU CAN DO THE UNDERNEATH OF IT.

WELL, YOU COULD DO IT ALSO DO THE 17 AND THE 46 HERE.

AS LONG AS YOU STAY AWAY FROM THAT, YOU'RE REALLY GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO MAKE THE LINES CLEAN WITH ANY OF THESE FIVES, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT EXISTS OVER HERE.

BUT BASICALLY ONE MORE WORD.

ONE'S GOING TO COME OUT HERE, WHETHER IT'S NORTH OR SOUTH, HOW MUCH EXTRA, THAT 800, HOW MUCH EXTRA DOES THAT? DOES THAT PUSH US OVER? WHAT THE VARIATION IS? THE 867 THAT IS OVER AND THAT'S NOT CONTINUOUS.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE EITHER.

BEEN STARING AT IT 17 AND 40 SETS AND THEN KIND OF HERE THEY'RE CONTIGUOUS TO THE BEST ONE.

IF YOU HAD TWO 40 AND THEN THERE'S A 98 THERE LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

IF WE'VE PICKED UP, SORRY.

IF WE PICKED UP THE EIGHT, 13, WE HAVE THE 5% DEVIATION.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF WE PICK THE, IF YOU CLICKED ON THE TWO 40, THE 17 AND THE 8 68, WOULD THAT STILL PUT IT WITHIN THE 5%? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A 362 WAS A 5% DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

YOU NEED TO TAKE THE TWO 40, BECAUSE IT'S CONTIGUOUS TO GET TO THE 67.

AND IF YOU TAKE THE SIX TO SEVEN

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AT 1 46, MAYBE THE 1 98? YEAH, THE 1 98 AND 94 94 WHEN YOU DID EIGHT, 13 OKAY.

SO IF THAT'S, ROBIN'S GOING TO BE, AS IF YOU ADD ALL THESE TITLES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN MOVED IN TO, UM, MORE SIX OR ONE, IS THERE STILL ENOUGH POPULATION TO GET DOWN HERE? WE TOOK 12, 19 OF THE SIX.

AND HOW MUCH IS WHAT'S THAT? EIGHT 50.

WHAT? THAT WE JUST PUT INTO 1 8 50, 8, 58 THAT'S.

SO THAT LEAVES US WITH 1881 LEFT AND WE HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF TWO.

WHERE DO WE HAVE LET'S SAY THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THAT LITTLE.

OKAY.

SO MY CALCULATION IS, UH, 39 58 WAS WHAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE OUT AWARD 2 12, 19 MINUS 12, 19 MINUS 8 58.

SO THAT STILL LEAVES 1881 1881.

SO IF WE START THEN WE WOULD START HERE, START LOPPING OFF THE CELL.

HOW MUCH IS THAT? YEAH, WE NEED 1881.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS BIG BLUE BLOCK, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM IF IT DOESN'T GO IN EITHER WARD TWO OR THREE, BECAUSE CONTENARY UM, SO LET'S GO CLEAR.

DID I TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT? NO, IF YOU, IF YOU HAD TO, LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE IT, YOU COULD JUST MINIMIZE IT AND THEN DO A NEW CAPTURE.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE IT EVERY TIME.

OKAY.

SO LET'S TAKE THAT.

I FEEL LIKE THAT GUY IN THE BIG BOARD ON FOX NEWS ON ELECTION NIGHT, THIS IS A LOT WORSE.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST, IF YOU COULD JUST TOUCH IT, YOU'VE ONLY GOT THE TWO POINTS, I THINK THE 7 35.

SO WE STILL NEED ABOUT ANOTHER 111 30, THEIR ADS, 700, ALMOST, ALMOST A THOUSAND, RIGHT THERE.

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YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET PRETTY CLOSE JUST BY TAKING THIS 1 76, 16 0 9 WITHIN 270 YEARS.

BUT WARD FOUR IS, NEEDS A THOUSAND.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT FROM.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

AND THAT'S 1851 AND IT WAS PERFECT.

AND THERE YOU GO.

GOING TO HAVE TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE'VE PUT IN THE THREE POCKET FROM OVER HERE TO GET A PICTURE OF THIS ONE.

ALRIGHT, SURE.

I FEEL ABOUT THIS LAND GRAB UP IN WASHINGTON, MUCH YELLOWSTONE.

OKAY.

DAWN, DON'T WORRY.

I WON'T TAKE ANY FROM YOU PROMISING.

WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION? JUST GIVE THEM TO HIRE AND MANUAL SYSTEM.

OKAY.

UM, WORD THREE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT 8 78.

SO WE REMOVED FOR MORE THOR WARD THREE, UM, 8 75, 8 78.

WHEN WE TOOK THAT PART ON THE RIGHT.

WE HAD ABOUT 1700 OKAY.

SO WHY DIDN'T YOU SUGGEST THAT EARLIER? UH, SO THE WORD THREE NEEDED 8 78.

WE TOOK 8 75 OUT, SO WE NEED TO MAKE THAT UP.

SO THAT WOULD BE A CLASS 8 75.

AND THEN WE JUST ADDED 1851.

I'M SORRY.

SO WE NEED 1753 AND WE ADDED IT.

WE JUST ADDED 1851.

YEAH.

THAT, WASN'T SORRY THAT WENT TO THREE.

LET'S JUST END UP SKIMMING EVERYTHING OFF THE TOP OF WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

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RIGHT.

WE JUST USE THAT TO GO UP AND INTO TO, AND WE TOOK SOME OUT OF WARD FOUR.

WE TOOK 69 OUT OF WARD FOUR TO FIVE.

SO WARD FOUR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ADDING 1,037.

SO THE NUMBER WOULD BE 11 SIX MINUS 69, WHICH IS SO YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD 11 SIX AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME THREE SOUTH THREES.

HE WAS 63 62.

WE REMOVED 8 75.

YEAH.

THAT 18 73 38, WHICH IS WITHIN A HUNDRED OF WHAT WE WERE SHOOTING FOR.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE THOUSANDS GOING TO COME FROM, ADD TO BRING UP WORK FOR, I GOT 73 38, A HUNDRED.

UM, SO ONE OF THESE IS HOLDING SOME EXTRA POPULATION THAT WE CAN MOVE WARD FIVE.

WE STARTED WITH 64 61 AND WE ADDED 838 AND THE CHANGES TO WARD FIVE.

SO THAT'S AT 72 99.

SO THAT'S ROUGHLY CORRECT.

DID WE ADD 80, 30 OR DO WE TAKE LATE 38? WE ADDED EIGHT 30.

WELL, WE ACTUALLY HAD AT 7 69 69, IT WENT TO FOUR AND WE ADDED EIGHT 30TH.

YEAH.

SO WARD FIVE AS WARD THREE AND FIVE OR ON TRACK.

UM, LET'S SEE, WARD ONE.

WE STARTED WITH 64 27.

THE POCKET THAT WAS EVER HERE OFF, OVER AT PIKE.

OH NO.

WE TOOK AWAY FROM MORE THREE.

UM YEAH, THAT'S ADD.

THAT'S ADDING TO, BUT I DIDN'T THINK YOU TOOK AWAY ANYTHING.

I THINK YOU ADDED, BUT I DIDN'T SEE WHERE ANYTHING WAS TAKEN AWAY.

SO THAT'S WHY BUT I DON'T RECALL TAKING AWAY I HAVE REMOVED FOR MORE THREE.

WE DID.

UM, WE TOOK EIGHTIES 8 75.

I THINK YOU'VE ADDED THAT.

WHERE DO WE NOT TAKE AWAY? BECAUSE THAT WAS THE STUFF.

NO THAT'S YEAH.

I DON'T RECALL TAKING ANYTHING AWAY.

NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE AN ADD TOWARD THREE.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE LIKE OVER A THOUSAND HUNDRED.

OKAY.

SO NOW I JUST WANT TO TAKE LIKE THE TOP 360 360 2, 18 51.

YEAH.

WE'RE ABOUT A THOUSAND OVER 3000

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BELOW AND WORK FOR OKAY.

SO KATE, YOUR WAY TO THE NORTH SO THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPACT ANYTHING HERE WITH YOU.

YEAH.

SO WHAT IF WE TOOK 2 0 9 51 AND 39? AND YOU, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, I THINK YOU COULD DO, YOU COULD DO BOTH.

I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE A NATURAL THING TO CUT OFF.

CAUSE THEN, UH, THIS MORNING COME TO RIGHT UP HERE.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE COULD PICK UP THE RAS.

DO WE WANT TO GET THAT 48 AS WELL, GET BACK, GET BACK.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET OUR SIGN SHOP TO MAKE SOME SIGNS WELL, BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN.

CLEVELAND AS A YEAH.

THE NEXT THING HE KNOWS I'M GOING TO CONGREGATE, UH, TONY I WAS LIKE, GLEN, YOU CAN'T LEAVE.

THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF US.

SO WE NEED 200 MORE, JUST A COUPLE OF HUNDRED OFF.

WHAT ABOUT GO BACK TO THE RIGHT ORANGE PATCHES, RIGHT? YEAH.

GIVE IT BACK TO WARD FOUR.

AND THEN BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING IT FROM THREE ANYWAY, 26 UP THERE ON THE RIGHT CORNER COULD GO IN BEFORE AND THEN THAT JUST BE A NATURAL BARRIER THERE WITH, UM, TAILOR.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT IF WE ASK IN THE SENSE THAT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES WE JUST GAVE IT TO THREE, BUT WHEN WE NEED TO TAKE FROM THREE, SO SHIFTING FOUR, BUT THEN THAT TAKES AWAY.

WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO CAUSE THEY'RE OVER A THOUSAND.

OH, SO DO THAT ONE, THE 79 AND THE 87 THERE.

AND THAT SHOULD BE ABOUT TWO SOMETHING, WHICH I THINK WAS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

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BOUNDARIES BY ROADS VERSUS JUST NOT BASED ON THE IT'S, JUST BECAUSE THOSE POCKETS THIS BLUE ONE GOES ALL THE WAY HERE.

AND THEN , WE'RE JUST GETTING THAT BECAUSE THE BOUNDARY 43, NOW IT'S GOING TO BE UP HERE THAT ALL THIS IS GOING TO COME ACROSS HERE.

UH WE COULD KIND OF, I MEAN, IF WE WANTED TO KEEP IT, IF WE WANTED TO KEEP US OUT, WE GET SKIP OVER THAT ONE AND WE COULD STILL GO WITH THAT 73, 1 0 2, 1 16 AND WE CAN BRING IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

CAUSE THAT LITTLE DIP IN THE 2 83, THAT LOOKS PRETTY CLEAN AND FINE CALL IT THIS RIGHT HERE.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF DRAWLING AND NUMBERS.

SURE.

WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE TONIGHT AND THEN MAYBE HAVE ANOTHER BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A MAP THAT SHOWS THE REDRAWN LINES AND THE TOTALS WITHIN THOSE LINES.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

IT COULD BE TWEAKED FROM THERE.

YEAH, I LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT, I MEAN, BASED ON THE ROUGH CALCULATIONS THAT'S SHOULD BE ALL WITHIN THE POPULATION DISTRIBUTION OF 5%.

AND UH, I THINK A LOT OF THE POCKETS THAT EXISTED ON THE MAP HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED.

EVERYBODY'S STILL IN THEIR SAME WARD.

UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE CHANGING WORDS, BUT IT REALLY CAN'T BE HELD WITH THE WAY THE CITY'S LAID OUT.

SO WHAT I COULD HAVE BY NEXT WEEK, WHEN I CAN HAVE BY NEXT WEEK IS JUST A NEW MAP, UH, WOULD SHOW THESE REDRAWN LINES AND POPULATION TOTALS WITHIN EACH WARD.

AND THEN, UH, YOU COULD DECIDE IF THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OR IT NEEDS SOME FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT THEN I THINK WE'D ONLY BE TALKING ABOUT MOVING A FEW OF THE CELLS,

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NOT MASSIVE QUANTITIES TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.

AND THEN I REALLY STRONGLY URGE THAT WE PARTNER WITH OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, ALL OF THEM AND HAVE A SERIOUS CAMPAIGN IN THIS CITY TO REEDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT WORD THEY LIVE IN.

UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF MOVEMENT.

I REALLY WASN'T JOKING.

I SAID, WE COULD GET THE SIGN SHOP TO START PUTTING SIGNS WITH NUMBERS ON THEM, ON SOME, ON THE GO TO NEW ORLEANS AND STUFF THAT YOU HAVE NINTH WARD.

YOU SAID IT'S THE SAME WAY.

I MEAN, WHAT'D YOU GET INSIDE OF THE BELTWAYS THEY'RE INSIDE THE LOOPS.

THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE BROKEN DOWN TOWARDS, THEY CALL IT, THEY CALL THEM.

SO UNTIL YOU GET PEOPLE USED TO WHERE, WHERE THEY ARE, ESPECIALLY, MAYBE NOT THROW THE WHOLE CITY, BUT IN THE AREAS THAT REALLY CHANGED WHERE WE'RE MOVING, SOME STUFF PUT SIGNS UP AND WE DO HAVE A TOOL ON OUR WEBSITE THAT ANYONE CAN PUT THEIR ADDRESS IN AND IT TELLS A WORD, BUT THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BE UPDATED.

AND FOR HOW MANY YEARS SINCE WEBSITE'S BEEN UP, BUT PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE STILL OUT THERE, TONY, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENS ONCE WE DO HAVE OUR DEFINED LINES AND THE BOUNDED BY HOW DOES THAT GO THEN TO BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND YEAH, THAT'S UH, UH, YEAH.

SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IS ONCE YOU GUYS AGREE TO THE FINAL LINES, THEN IT GETS WRITTEN BY SOME ATTORNEYS AND MEETS AND BOUNDS.

SO THAT IT'S THE LEGAL TERMINOLOGY TO DESCRIBE THE BOUNDARY LINES.

UM, UH, FOR THOSE PURPOSES, IT'S PUT INTO THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE.

COUNCIL PASSES THE ORDINANCE.

UM, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT IF THIS DOESN'T GET ACTION UNTIL THE DECEMBER MEETING, UM, THEN IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE SECOND READING IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WAIVED AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADOPTED AS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO HAVE IT IN EFFECT.

UM, BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, UM, THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE PLOT THAT OUT ALL IN OUR GIS SYSTEM HERE TO SHOW THE NEW WARD LINES, REDRAW THE WARD MAPS.

OFFICIALLY, WE SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE, UH, COUNTY, UM, ENGINEERING AND GIS DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS BOTH MIAMI COUNTY AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS.

UM, I'VE ALREADY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE MIAMI COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS.

THEY WERE WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IN REFERENCE TO THIS BECAUSE, UM, THEIR, THEIR CONCERN IS NOT SO MUCH, UH, THEY NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE WORD LINES ARE, BUT THEY ALSO, UH, THE INCREASE IN POPULATION IN MIAMI COUNTY.

THEY'RE DETERMINED TRYING TO DETERMINE IF THEY NEED MORE PRECINCTS AND THAN THEY CURRENTLY HAVE VOTING PRECINCTS, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT THING THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WITH THE WARDS.

BUT IT IT'S IMPACTED BY THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEN FOR THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE, THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT, UH, ALL OF THE PEOPLE ARE BUDDING WITHIN EITHER MIAMI COUNTY OR MONTGOMERY COUNTY, UH, WITHIN THOSE PRECINCTS.

THEN THE PRECINCTS HAVE TO KNOW WHICH WARD IS ASSOCIATE, THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE THERE'S MAY PRIMARIES AND THEN THE GOVERNOR RACES NEXT YEAR.

SO, SO TONY, WITHIN THAT CONVERSATION, UM, THAT MR. WEBB JUST BROUGHT UP, UM, TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT PRECINCTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, WOULD WE AS A CITY BE ABLE TO PETITION, UH, MIAMI COUNTY AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY, UH, TO CHANGE POLLING LOCATIONS BECAUSE I PERSONALLY FEEL I'M ASKING OUR RESIDENTS IN WARD TWO AND, AND CARRIAGE TRAILS TO DRIVE 15 MINUTES NORTH TO GO VOTE WHEN THEY'RE PASSING FOUR, ALMOST FIVE AVAILABLE LOCATIONS.

AND THEN WE'RE ASKING OUR RESIDENTS IN WARD FIVE TO GO VOTE IN THE CITY OF DATE.

YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE DIRECT CONTROL OVER.

YOU COULD CERTAINLY INITIATE A CONVERSATION AS A BODY, UH, WITH THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS ABOUT THAT.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE POLLING LOCATIONS, UH, FOR MIAMI COUNTY RESIDENTS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY OR VICE VERSA.

I THINK THEY WOULD PROBABLY KEEP IT WITHIN THE COUNTY LINES.

UM, BUT THEY COULD ESTABLISH DIFFERENT POLLING LOCATIONS AND PRECINCTS.

FIRSTLY, THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY PRECINCTS THEY NEED TO HAVE, AND THEN THEY DETERMINED THE POLLING LOCATIONS FROM THAT.

UM, BUT WE TYPICALLY HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE DECISIONS.

THOSE HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS.

UM, AS FAR AS WHERE THE POLLING LOCATIONS ARE LOCATED, THERE USED TO BE A LOT MORE, UH, POLLING LOCATIONS AND THEN THEY CONSOLIDATE IT BACK.

UH, 10 YEARS AGO WE USED TO HAVE A POLLING LOCATION HERE, UM, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHERE PEOPLE VOTED IN THE PRECINCT SURROUNDING THIS AREA, THERE WAS ALSO A POLLING LOCATION AT THE SENIOR CENTER, WHICH NO LONGER EXISTS ANYMORE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I'VE JUST, I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT WORD TWO AND FOCUSING CARRIAGE TRAILS, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW OF SEVERAL CHURCH LOCATIONS AND OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE POLLING COULD TAKE PLACE AND INSTEAD OF DRIVING LITERALLY 15 MINUTES NORTH AND MR. ROBOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS WITH THAT QUESTION.

IT ACTUALLY IS, UH, MR. CHAVEZ, BECAUSE

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I THINK, UH, I CAN ONLY GUESS IF THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE LAST CENSUS DATA WHEN THEY CREATED THOSE PRECINCTS AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN CT WITH THE INCREASE IN POPULATION.

THERE'S BEEN A BIG SHIFT, UM, IN MIAMI COUNTY, THERE'S A HUGE VOTER BLOCK THERE AND I AGREE THEY WERE SENDING THEM 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO VOTE.

SO, UM, WE DO, I THINK AS A COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OBLIGATION TO CONTACT THEM AND STRESS.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING THE POLLING LOCATION CLOSER TO WHERE THE VOTERS ARE DITTO FOR WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING WITH THE POLLING LOCATION IN THE CITY OF DATE AND FOR IT'S FIVE HOARD FIVE.

YES.

YEAH.

AND I THINK IT'S LITERALLY JUST, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

MAYBE IT'S ONLY ONE PRECINCT OF WARD FIVE THAT VOTES DOWN THERE.

YEAH.

UM, BUT YEAH, NO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN WITH THIS CONVERSATION AND MR. WEBB, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

I DO BELIEVE WE, AS A COUNCIL DO NEED TO MOVE ON THAT.

AND I WOULD ALMOST SAY, AND JOINTLY OR SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, UM, FOR THE UPCOMING, UH, ELECTIONS, UM, ONCE MIAMI COUNTY HAS THESE NEW NUMBERS, BUT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE NUMBERS.

UM, I THINK THAT'S JUST A SIMPLE REQUEST AND THAT WAS JUST LIKE BACK IN 2015.

UM, WHEN A, UH, WHEN TWO PRECINCTS AWARD ONE VOTED AT THE FREE METHODIST CHURCH, UH, THERE WAS A MOVE BY THE CITY MADE AND THEN NOW THEY GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO I DO THINK THAT AT LEAST IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THEY TRY TO, UH, LINK THE WARDS TO THE VOTING PRECINCTS TOO.

SO IF THESE CHANGE, THEY MAY BE CHANGING, UH, THEIR VOTING PRECINCTS TO CORRESPOND TO THE WARD BOUNDARIES AS WELL.

UM, WELL IN MIAMI COUNTY, IT'S ALL BEEN MORE TOO.

SO BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'VE GOT, I THINK A TOTAL OF FOUR REGISTERED VOTERS IN WARD ONE THAT ACTUALLY VOTE AND BYMAN COUNTY.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, THE, UM, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT.

AND THE REASON FOR THE DEADLINE FOR THIS HAVING TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR IS FOR THE FACT THAT IT'S ALL HAS TO BE SET UP IN TIME FOR THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ELSE AND ANYBODY OUT THERE THING, EVERYTHING GOOD? LOOK GOOD.

YUP.

THROW ONE MORE QUICK THING OUT.

WE HAVE VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AT HOME, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT AS THIS HITS SOCIAL MEDIA, THE WORD GERRYMANDERING WILL BE THROWN ABOUT, UH, I THINK WHAT YOU'VE WITNESSED HERE TONIGHT IS THERE IS NO GERRYMANDERING OR TRYING TO DO THIS AS THE, UH, ORC AND OUR CHARTER PROVIDES FOR MAKE EACH, UH, WARD RELATIVELY EQUAL.

SO WHEN YOU SEE THOSE ATTACKS COME AND THEY WILL, UM, BE VOCAL ABOUT IT, LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THIS IS THE WAY THINGS SHOULD WORK AND ARE WORKING IN THE STUDY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND I THINK IF WE WERE, IF THIS WAS GERRYMANDERING, I MEAN, NOBODY WOULD AGREE TO THIS.

SO I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT THIS GOING, YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE.

I THINK SHOWS THAT IT'S, IT'S ALL BEING DONE FOR THE RIGHT REASONS FOR THE LAST TIME AND THIS WAS DONE.

IT WASN'T TELEVISED OR STREAMED.

IT WAS DONE IN A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT IT WAS ONLY SEEN BY THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTUALLY HERE.

RIGHT.

AWESOME.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, NOBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE.

UH, WHAT 7 21 HAVE A GREAT NIGHT VERMIN.