Jun 08, 2021 Council Work Session

GOOD EVENING.

UM, COUPLE ITEMS FOR EIGHT TONIGHT.

SO ONE WE HAVE, UH, RECEIVED THE BIDS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, WE RECEIVED FIVE BIDS OF, UM, THAT, UH, UH, FROM, UH, FIVE DIFFERENT GROUPS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT IS IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF REVIEWING THOSE.

AND WE'LL BRING A COUPLE OF THOSE IN FOR INTERVIEWS AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AT A FUTURE MEETING.

SO, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

UM, MR. FOSTER AND I ARE LOOKING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE AND, UH, RANKING THEM, SCORING THEM.

AND, UH, WE'LL START THAT PROCESS OF THE INTERVIEWS HERE, COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, THE BELL PLAIN PARKING AREA THAT IS NOW COMPLETE.

THERE ARE CONES IN FRONT OF IT RIGHT NOW, AS THINGS ARE SETTLING AND EVERYTHING, BUT THE WORK IS DONE.

UM, THERE IS NOW I BELIEVE IT'S NINE PARKING SPACES THERE, UH, WITH A HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACE.

UM, SO THAT, UH, PROJECT IS COMPLETE.

THIS WEEKEND IS THE COMMUNITY-WIDE GARAGE SALE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, AT THE FRONT DESK THERE'LL BE, UH, COPIES OF ALL THE ADDRESSES PLUS THAT WILL BE POSTED ONLINE FOR ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED.

AND THEN, UH, LASTLY FOR TONIGHT, I'VE GOT, UH, THAT THE, UH, THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER, UH, IS, UH, SCHEDULING SHOWS RIGHT NOW, UH, KIND OF GOING CRAZY RIGHT NOW.

UH, JOHN FOGARTY WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THIS YEAR ON JULY 16TH.

SO THAT'LL BE THE FIRST CONCERT FOR US.

AND THEN THERE'S CURRENTLY 21 ANNOUNCED SHOWS FROM JULY ONE OR JULY 16TH THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

SO THERE'S MORE TO COME THAT THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT AND TRYING TO MAKE SOME WE'LL CALL THEM THREE-DAY WEEKENDS AND GET AS MANY AS WE CAN IN THAT LIMITED TIMEFRAME.

UM, SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

THANKS SCOTT.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR MR. MCCALSKY AND ST.

ANDREW.

[ 2022-2026 Capital Improvement Plan (CIP)]

FOR STREETS TO BE ON THERE, BUT HAVEN'T SEEN THAT BE ADDED YET.

SO ASIDE FROM THREE B, WHICH IS THE 2022 THROUGH 2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, SCOTT, DO YOU WANT TO, UH, ADDRESS THAT? UH, SURE.

UM, SO WE HAD THE FIRST READING, UM, OR, UH, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND THERE WAS, UH, A TIME GIVEN TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL.

WE DID RECEIVE A, UH, A LIST FROM MR. SHAW, UM, THAT, UH, I COULD SAY IT'S MORE OF A PRIORITY LIST.

UM, THE MAJORITY OF THESE ITEMS WERE ALREADY ON THE CIP.

UM, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ALSO IN THE 2020, UH, THE TWO LIST FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO, UM, THAT, UH, HIS REQUEST IS THAT, UH, THESE BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ON THAT LIST, HAD SOME, UH, FURTHER CORRESPONDENCE.

AND, UM, UH, THE REQUEST IS THAT'S A, THIS COULD POSSIBLY, SOME OF THESE COULD BE USED FOR, WITH THE, UH, THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING FROM THE FEDERAL FUNDING.

UM, SOME OF THEM MAY WORK.

SOME OF THEM WILL NOT BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A, THERE'S A TOPIC ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT ABOUT SETTING UP THE FUND FOR THE ART FUNDS, BUT WE ARE STILL AWAITING KIND OF A FINALIZED LIST OF WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO USE THE FUNDING FOR.

UM, THERE'S, THEY, HAVEN'T GIVEN US A A HUNDRED PERCENT FINAL LISTS.

THERE'S THE, FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS.

THAT'S BEEN ON THE LIST SINCE DAY ONE.

UH, WE WERE STILL HOPING

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UM, AND, UH, SO TH THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WE'LL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL ON ONCE WE HAVE THAT FINAL LIST OF WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GO DOWN A ROAD THAT'S WE ENDED UP HAVING TO PAY SOME MONEY BACK IN THE END.

SO, UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, LIKE I SAID, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE ALREADY ON THE CIP LIST.

SO, UH, THIS IS READY FOR, TO GO FOR ADOPTION ON MONDAY.

AND, UH, IT'LL BE DONE PRIOR TO THE TAX BUDGET THAT JIM WILL BE BRINGING TO THE NEXT MEETING.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR SCOTT? YES.

AS BIRGIT.

NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE C EXCUSE ME, SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS, MR. BELL MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I SAY THAT ABOUT EIGHT ITEMS ON HERE FROM THE FIRE DIVISION, THE POLICE DIVISION OF PUBLIC AND PLANNING AND ZONING ARE, UH, REPLACEMENT ITEMS THAT ARE BASICALLY ON THE, ON THE 20, 22 SCHEDULE, BUT, UH, BASED ON THEIR LIFE CYCLE.

AND I GUESS THAT, UH, I WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT RUSHING DISPOSAL OF THESE ITEMS, UM, PRIOR TO THE PROJECTED DATE, BECAUSE WE WOULD BASICALLY BE USING, LOSING A YEAR OF THEIR LIFE AND WE DON'T HAVE EXTRA MANPOWER TO BE USING BOTH THE NEW AND THE OLD, UM, ALSO FOR THE OTHER ONES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING THESE AHEAD OF TIME AND WHAT SOME OF THESE ITEMS, UM, ACTUALLY MEAN LIKE, UM, THE MARION MEADOWS, UH, PROJECT, THE TED FUNDS, WHY WE WOULD BE USING, UM, RECOVERY FUNDS FOR THAT, AND A $1.4 MILLION IN PARKS AND REC IMPROVEMENTS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS FOR MOVING THEM UP AND, UH, SENIOR CENTER UPGRADES.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE BACKGROUND IS ON THAT OR WHAT, UH, RESEARCH MR. SHAW DID ON ANY OF THESE THAT WOULD GIVE US, UH, A REASON FOR MOVING THEM UP.

UH, I'M SURE THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE A LONG LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE CAN USE THE RECOVERY ITEM, THE RECOVERY FUNDS FOR, AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, SMART IN USING THEM.

SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MOVING, YOU KNOW, WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL DISPOSITION IS, UH, FOR THE, UH, HOW WE CAN USE IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE CAUTIOUS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE THINKING.

IS HE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR SCOTT? ANY OBJECTIONS? YES.

MR. WEBB, THANK YOU.

MA'AM SCOTT, JUST CLIFFSNOTES ON 2026 ON THE CIP.

WHY DID 2026? WHY IS IT FALL OFF SO MUCH? I NOTICED THE DROPS ARE APPROXIMATELY THREE AND IN 2025.

AND THEN AGAIN, IN 2026, WAS THERE A WRONG, IS THERE A STUFF THERE THAT WE JUST CAN'T PROJECT? THERE'S A LOT OF ZEROS IN THE BUDGET.

I BELIEVE A LOT OF THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IS THAT THE HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS HAVE BEEN PLACED IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS AND LOOKING FIVE YEARS OUT.

UM, THAT'S SOME DEPARTMENTS, UM, HAVEN'T FORECASTED SOME HIGH DOLLAR ITEMS THAT FAR BECAUSE OF BEING ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, AND MR. CHUCK KOSKI HAS, UH, UH, DEALT WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ON SETTING THIS UP.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, UH, REGARDING THAT.

SURE.

UM, MR. WEBB, TO YOUR QUESTION, THE BIG NUT THAT'S MISSING THERE IS ABOUT $1.8 MILLION.

THAT'S NORMALLY IN THE WATER FUND.

SO THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T PROGRAM AT $1.8 MILLION.

THAT ABSENCE IS MORE ABOUT INSURING 1.8 IS WHAT WE WANT TO PLAN FOR THAT AS OPPOSED TO A LARGER NUMBER.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE TREND DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE, I KNOW THIS SHEET IS RELATIVELY SMALL.

IT ONLY LOOKS AT THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW, BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK BACK, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY FLUCTUATES, UM, WITH WE'LL CALL IT SOME CONSISTENCY.

SO THE ISSUE IS, IS, UH, WHAT NUMBER SHOULD THAT BE? AND AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER SO THAT WE COULD MAKE THE REQUIREMENT DEADLINES TO GET THIS IN ADVANCE OF THE TAX BUDGET, UH, ENGINEERING DIDN'T HAVE THAT NUMBER AVAILABLE, WHICH IS WHY, UH, IT'S ZERO, AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHER NUMBER, BUT REST ASSURED, WHEN YOU SEE THIS IN 2022, IT WILL HAVE A LARGER NUMBER, UH, INSERTED IN THAT LINE ON IT.

YOU BET.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I FIGURED, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

SURE.

THANK

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YOU.

MA'AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING FOR APPROVAL BEFORE THE TAX BUDGET? OKAY.

SEE NOW TO MOVE THIS TO MONDAY,

[ Supplemental Appropriations]

SORRY, SIR.

I'M VERY GOOD.

HOW ABOUT YOURSELF? GOOD.

GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE HERE EXCEPT FOR ED.

UM, I HAVE BEFORE YOU, UH, SEVERAL, UM, UH, CHANGES TO THE BUDGET THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.

UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE GOT, UH, $13,126 FOR FINANCE STAFF HEALTH INSURANCE.

WE HAD SOMEONE CHANGED FROM A SINGLE PLAN TO A FAMILY PLAN, WHICH IS IN THEIR RIGHTS.

UH, WE HAVE, UM, UM, A WASH HERE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

UH, WE NEED A $10,000 INCREASE, UH, TO HAVE SOME, UH, A TEMPORARY WORKER DOWN AT THE TAX OFFICE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LITTLE DIFFICULTY HIRING SOME PART-TIME WORKERS DOWN THERE.

SO WE'VE, UH, I'M PROPOSING TO MOVE OR DEDUCT $10,000 FROM THE PERSONNEL LINE ITEM AND MOVE THAT TO THE OPERATING LINE ITEM OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE A NET ZERO INCREASE TO THE BUDGET.

UH, WE'VE HAD A SAVINGS IN THOSE PART-TIME SALARY FIGURES BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HIRE THE TWO THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED ENDING OF THE YEAR MASK.

UM, IS THERE SOME REASON THAT ARE THOSE, UH, TWO PEOPLE SAY SNOW? YEAH.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE FULL, UH, THEY'RE PART-TIME UM, FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A NEED FOR ONE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT PERSON VERSUS HAVING TWO PART-TIME.

WE HAVE, UH, LOOKED AT THAT BRIAN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXTENSIVELY, UH, PRIOR TO THIS.

AND, UM, WE, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT, UM, BUDGET NEUTRAL, UH, IT WAS, UM, WE'D HAVE TO GIVE UP THREE POSITIONS AND WE DID NOT, UH, IN ORDER TO, BECAUSE EACH POSITION IS 25 HOURS, RIGHT.

SO WITH THE BENEFITS AND ALL THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE, UM, IT, IT FALLS IN BETWEEN TWO AND THREE.

AND, UH, WE THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE UNFAIR TO, UM, THERE'S A THIRD PERSON OCCUPYING THAT PART-TIME POSITION WITH THREE PART-TIMERS DOWN THERE.

AND, UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS A $25,000 BEEN REQUESTED BY, UH, KATIE FOR A LIABILITY INSURANCE PREMIUMS AND DEDUCTIBLES.

SHE'S ASKED FOR THAT TO BE ADDED TO THE BUDGET.

UM, ALSO, AND THAT'S JUST POTENTIAL, THERE'S NO, UH, ACTUAL COST OF THAT.

IT'S JUST THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT.

UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S READY TO SPEND IF, IF NEED BE TO PUT ON A PURCHASE ORDER.

UM, NEXT ITEM, I THINK SCOTT'S DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE.

UH, WE RECENTLY, UM, UM, RECEIVED WORD THAT WE GET A GRANT FOR, UM, PUTTING IN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, BOTH AT THE MUSIC CENTER AND AT CLOUD PARK.

AND SO FOR THOSE SIX, UH, THE TOTAL COST IS $75,000, WHICH WE NEED TO BUDGET THE WHOLE AMOUNT, BUT WE'LL GET BACK.

UH, HALF OF THAT 37,500 WILL BE THE GRANT PORTION.

SO, UH, I'VE LISTED THAT DOWN HERE.

UH, THEN THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE ITEMS ARE RELATED TO OUR RECENT, UH, BOND ISSUE FOR THE, UM, VETERANS MEMORIAL BONDS AND, UH, TAKING THE MUSIC CENTER BONDS.

THE LAST PIECE THAT WAS SHORT-TERM, WE JUST TOOK IT LONGTERM ON JUNE 1ST.

AND I DID NOT PUT IN THE BUDGET NOT KNOWING WHAT THE INTEREST RATES WERE GOING TO BE, UH, DECIDED TO WAIT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DID THE BOND ISSUE, WHICH WAS LAST WEEK.

AND NOW WE KNOW WHAT THE DEBT PAYMENT WILL BE THIS YEAR, UH, COMING UP IN DECEMBER $514,375 COMBINED FOR THE TWO ISSUES WILL BE OUR DEBT PAYMENT THIS YEAR.

UM, SO I'VE ADDED THAT.

AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS ALSO RELATED TO THAT DEBT ISSUE, $175,100 WAS OUR ISSUANCE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BOND ISSUE.

UH, THOSE, WE NEED TO BUDGET TO SPEND THE MONEY, BUT THE MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED AS FAR AS THE BOND PROCEEDS FROM THAT SALE.

SO IT'S JUST, UH, UM, SOME HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES ON THAT.

AND THEN THE FINAL ITEM IS $514,300, AND THAT IS TO, UM, HELP TO SHORE UP THE TRI-CITIES WASTEWATER, UH, FUND BALANCE.

UH, I THINK SCOTT, YOU'VE TALKED TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE ABOUT, UH, YOUR MEETING THAT YOU HAD WITH THE CITY MANAGERS.

UH, WELL, THE, THE BIGGEST PORTION OF, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS THIS YEAR WAS, UH, TO PRETTY LARGE, UM, SEWER BRAKES, UM, UH, AROUND THE TAYLORSVILLE DAM AREA THAT, UH, ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW FIXING, UM, WITH SOME LARGE SINK HOLES.

UM, SO THERE'S BEEN EMERGENCY REPAIRS ONE AFTER ANOTHER UP THERE THAT, UH, HAS, UH, GONE THROUGH A, UH, A PRETTY LARGE

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AREA.

SO THAT'S, UH, WHAT THE BIG PORTION OF THIS IS, UH, TO, UH, RESTORE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS.

YEP.

AND THIS IS OUR PORTION VANDALIA AND TIP CITY ARE ALSO GOING TO THEIR COUNCILS TO INCREASE THEIR BUDGET FOR THEIR PORTION.

OUR PORTION IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF USAGE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SYSTEM, WHICH IS USUALLY JUST OVER 50% AROUND 53, 50 4% OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

SO THE TOTAL ASK IS $1 MILLION, BUT OUR PORTION IS JUST 500, 14,300 FOR OUR USAGE.

IS THERE EVER BEEN AN INSTANCE WHERE THE OTHER TWO MUNICIPALITIES HAVE NOT PUT IN THERE? NO, I'VE BEEN IN, I'VE BEEN IN CONSTANT TALK WITH THEM AND THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO THEIR COUNCILS TO INCREASE THEIR PORTIONS.

AND, UH, WE HAVE HAD NO, UM, UH, NO RATE INCREASE SINCE 1996, UH, FOR SEWER RATES.

SO, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN QUITE A TESTAMENT TO, UM, THE GENERAL MANAGER THERE, DAVID HECKLER AND, UM, UH, WHO WAS RECENTLY REPLACED BY, UH, DANNY KNIFE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM, BUT, UM, THIS, UH, THIS ALONG WITH THE, UH, WE HAD THE DIGESTER DOME ISSUE THAT HAPPENED, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UM, THAT HAS, UH, BROUGHT THE FUND BALANCE DOWN TO, UM, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, A CONCERNING LEVEL.

UH, SO THIS WILL HELP TO BRING THE FUND BALANCE UP TO A MORE REASONABLE LEVEL MOVING FORWARD.

NEXT UP IS I'M THREE D WHICH HAS INCREASED SPENDING LIMITS FOR ACCOUNT TEMPS THROUGH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND IN THIS, IN NO WAY TRIGGERS EVEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT A RATE INCREASE FROM OUR RESIDENTS OR ANYTHING, WE HAVE THE FUND BALANCE, UM, THAT'S COVERS THIS EASILY, VERY GOOD POINT.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM US ABOUT, OKAY, OBJECTIONS ARE MOVING THOSE SUPPLEMENTALS ONTO MONDAY.

AND IF WE COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVED ON MONDAY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE BEING ABLE TO GET THE TEMPORARY WORKER AND, UH, FOR TAX.

ABSOLUTELY.

THE SECOND READING.

HEY, THANK YOU, JIM.

[ Increase Spending Limits - Accountemps - Finance Department]

YES, THAT WOULD BE ME ALSO.

UM, JUST THE SUBJECT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE ACCOUNT TEMPS THAT WE USE FOR OUR TEMPORARY WORKER THERE.

UH, WE'VE HAD, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD TWO IN PLACE THAT, UH, BOTH LEFT US, UH, AT THE END OF MAY.

AND, UM, SINCE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE NEW PART-TIME, UH, EMPLOYEES HIRED YET.

UH, WE NEED TO EXTEND THAT ABOUT ANOTHER TWO MONTHS AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE NOW THAT WE'RE, UM, UH, AFTER THE TAX DEADLINE.

SO WE BELIEVE WE CAN GET BY WITH ONE.

AND SO THAT WILL CAUSE US TO SPEND WITH ACCOUNT TEMPS MORE THAN 25,000, WHICH TRIGGERS COMING TO COUNCIL FOR A NOT TO EXCEED.

AND I'M ONLY ASKING FOR A MAXIMUM OF 30,000.

SO IT'D BE A $5,000 INCREASE OVER THE NORMAL MAXIMUM OF 25,000 FOR THAT VENDOR.

CAN I GET ANY QUESTIONS, ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? OKAY.

MOVE THAT.

AND

[ American Rescue Plan Fund Creation]

NEXT IS ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUND CREATION.

THAT WOULD BE ME ALSO, UM, I'M ASKING COUNCIL TONIGHT OR FOR MONDAY TO APPROVE, UH, THE ATTACHED LEGISLATION, UH, WHICH I HAVE SENT TO JERRY FOR HIS REVIEW.

UH, I KNOW EACH CITY IS, UM, UH, MY COLLEAGUES THAT I'VE TALKED TO, EVERYONE'S PUTTING THROUGH A, UH, A, UH, ESTABLISH A NEW FUND JUST FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS.

I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO SET UP A SEPARATE FUND AND NOT USE THE SAME ONE THAT WE USE FOR THE CARES ACT, BUT REALLY KEEP RATHER KEEP THEM SEPARATE.

SO IT'S EASIER TO TRACK, UH, THE FUNDING.

UH, I'VE ALSO, UH, SET UP A NEW BANK ACCOUNT SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE FUNDS.

WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY YET, BUT I WANT TO BE, HAVE THIS ALL PUT INTO PLACE AND BE READY FOR WHEN THOSE FUNDS DO COME ACCORDING TO, UM, ALL THE, UM, EVERYTHING THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD WE SHOULD BE GETTING THOSE FUNDS WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.

SO OUR FIRST, UM, TRANCHES ARE CALLING, IT SHOULD BE 3.7, $5 MILLION, ACCORDING TO THE ESTIMATES THAT I'VE RECEIVED.

AND, UH, THAT WILL BE THAT AMOUNT THIS YEAR.

AND THEN, UH, ANOTHER AMOUNT, SAME AMOUNT, UH, 12 MONTHS FROM NOW.

SO WE'D BE EXPECTING THAT IN JUNE OF 2022.

THANK YOU, JIM.

ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THOSE FUNDS OR THE CREATION OF THAT ACCOUNT? YES.

MR. WEBB, THANK YOU.

MA'AM JIM, COULD YOU JUST, UM, IS IT JUST A MATTER OF KEEPING THE BOOKS REALLY PLAYING? IS THAT THE REASON FOR OUR SUPPER AND POND? JUST YES, YES, YES.

ANYTIME YOU GET GRANT MONIES OR ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS IN A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, UM, WE HAVE, UM, ALL THE WAY UNTIL 20, 26 TO SPEND THESE FUNDS, WE HAVE TO AT LEAST ENCUMBER THEM BY THE END OF 2024.

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BUT SINCE THIS IS GOING TO BE A MULTI-YEAR SPENDING, UH, WELL, AND ALSO RECEIVING OF THE FUNDS OVER TWO YEARS, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TRACK THESE SEPARATELY.

AND, UH, AND THAT'S WHY I'M ALSO SETTING UP A SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT FOR THEM BECAUSE, UH, IT'S NOT CLEAR YET, BUT I'M GUESSING THAT THE INTEREST THAT IS EARNED ON THESE FUNDS UNTIL WE SPEND SOME OF THEM WILL BE, UH, ALSO NEED TO BE TRACKED AND, UH, ALSO CLASSIFIED INTO USE OF THE SAME WAY THAT THE INITIAL FUNDING IS.

WE HAD TO DO THAT LAST YEAR WITH THE CARES ACT.

I THINK MR. WEBB AND OBJECTION SOME MONDAY MAYOR.

SHORELINES.

I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION.

JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR JIM, JIM, WHAT ARE THE ELIGIBLE USES, UH, FOR THESE, UH, FOR THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE EXPECTING? WELL, THERE ARE, UM, CATEGORIES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, UM, TOLD TO US SO FAR.

AND, UM, AS SCOTT MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, UM, THE, THE BIG CATEGORY, UM, THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, OR, UH, I'VE ATTENDED TWO WEBINARS ALREADY, AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE SCHEDULED FOR LATER THIS MONTH, UH, TO TRY AND LEARN MORE.

UM, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE LIKE STORMWATER, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME STORMWATER PROJECTS.

DOES THAT COUNT IN THE WATER SEWER CATEGORY? WE DON'T KNOW, UM, STREETS SO FAR HAS BEEN, UM, NOT ON THE LIST, UH, TO USE, UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER CATEGORIES, UM, UH, PREMIUM PAY IS ONE OF THEM FOR, UM, UH, CERTAIN WORKERS.

UM, THERE'S ALSO, UM, A LOSS OF REVENUE AND THAT'S BEEN, UH, UM, UH, THAT'S GENERATED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS WELL ON HOW TO CALCULATE THAT LOSS OF REVENUE.

AND, UM, AND IF IT'S, UH, COMPARED TO, UM, YOUR BASE HERE, WHICH FOR US WOULD BE 2019, UM, AND THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT 20 21, 22 AND 23 AS TO WHETHER YOU WOULD HAVE LOSSES BASED ON WHAT YOU COLLECTED IN 2019.

UH, THERE'S ALSO BEEN QUESTIONS ON THAT AS TO WHAT COUNTS AS A REVENUE AND WHAT DOESN'T COUNT, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, TRANSFERS WOULD NOT COUNT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, SCOTT AND BRIAN AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS VERY INTENTLY OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS.

AND AS SOON AS WE GET MORE CLARIFICATION, WE, AS SCOTT MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND, AND DISCUSS IT FOR OPTIONS.

UH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT PERSONNEL.

WAS THAT SPECIFIC TO PUBLIC WORKS OR WAS THAT PERSONNEL IN GENERAL OR WAS THAT JUST A DIFFERENT, UH, EXPLANATION? WELL, UM, I KNOW SCOTT YOU'VE LOOKED AT THIS TOO.

SO, UM, THAT IT'S NOT BEEN MADE AS CLEAR AS IT WAS LAST YEAR WITH THE CARES ACT MONEY WHERE WE RECEIVED A SPECIFIC CARES ACT MONEY FOR, UM, UH, POLICE AND FIRE THAT WERE DEALING WITH, UH, COVID PATIENTS.

AND, UM, THEN THE QUESTION I HAVE TOO IS GOING FORWARD, UM, NOW THAT THE STATE HAS DROPPED, UM, THE GUIDELINES, UM, CAN WE USE THAT MOVING FORWARD OR CAN IT ONLY BE USED FOR, UM, EXPENSES IN 2020 AND, UH, NO LONGER AFTER JUNE 1ST.

SO WE MIGHT BE LIMITED INTO WHAT WE COULD SPEND IN THAT SECTION ONCE AGAIN, LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET ANSWERS TO.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS FOR ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL? NO, THAT IS NOT A COMPONENT OF IT.

NOW THERE'S A, THERE'S TALK OF PREMIUM PAY, BUT NO TALK OF, UH, HIRING ADDITIONAL WORKERS.

I KNOW QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP, WHETHER WE CAN BUY A NEW AMBULANCE WITH THAT OR BUY A NEW FIRETRUCK.

AND THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN CLEARLY STATED WHATSOEVER.

AND WHAT IS YOUR, UH, WHAT WAS YOUR PROJECTED REVENUE LOSS FROM LAST YEAR? WELL BASED, I NEED TO LEARN WHAT THEY'RE BASING THEIR CALCULATIONS ON.

SO I HAVE NOT RUN THOSE NUMBERS YET BECAUSE, UM, WHAT THEY'RE CLASSIFYING AS WHAT COUNTS AS REVENUE AND WHAT DOESN'T COUNT AS REVENUE.

AND I BELIEVE FROM WHAT I'VE READ SO FAR, THAT IT'S LOOKING AT, UM, ALL FUNDS, EXCEPT FOR LIKE, UH, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, LIKE WATER AND SEWER FUNDS DO NOT COUNT.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR FURTHER GUIDANCE ON THAT AS TO, UM, DOING A CALCULATION AS TO WHAT TRULY COUNTS AS A REVENUE LOSS.

UH, DO YOU HAVE A, JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE? I PROMISE I WON'T HOLD YOU TO THAT.

I DO NOT KNOW.

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MS. BYRD, UM, JIM, DID I READ THAT, UH, LOST TAX REVENUES ARE NOT, UH, INCLUDED IN THAT, THAT WE CANNOT CLAIM LOST? OKAY.

UH, NO, ACTUALLY I'VE READ THAT.

THAT CAN BE INCLUDED.

THE TAXES ARE INCLUDED.

I READ SPECIFICALLY THAT TRANSFERS BETWEEN FUNDS CAN'T COUNT BECAUSE IF YOU TRANSFER MONEY FROM ONE FUND TO ANOTHER, THAT LOOKS LIKE REVENUE IN ANOTHER FUND AND SAY, YOU DIDN'T DO AS MANY TRANSFERS IN 20, AS YOU DID IN 19, THAT YOU WERE THAT ARTIFICIALLY INFLATE YOUR BUDGET ON THE REVENUE SIDE OR DEFLATES IT IF YOU DON'T DO THE TRANSFERS.

SO THOSE DON'T COUNT.

UM, I THINK THAT I'VE READ THAT.

UM, UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT GRANT MONEY BECAUSE IF, IF WE HAD TO COUNT THE CARES ACT MONEY, YOU KNOW, THAT ADDED $2.2 MILLION IN REVENUE TO OUR BUDGET IN 2020, THAT WASN'T THERE IN 2019.

SO THAT WOULD HURT IF THAT HAD TO COUNT AGAINST US.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WATER AND SEWER, I DID READ, UH, DO NOT COUNT AS REVENUES.

SO JUST MORE TO LEARN.

YEAH, NO, THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVE THIS TO MONDAY, YOU SAYING NOTHING TO MOVE IT ON.

IS A ZONING CASE 21 DASH 17 CAL FLAMING FOR A MAJOR CHANGE AT 75 36 BRANDT PIKE.

NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE F WHICH

[ ZC 21-17 - Kyle Flaming - Major Change - 7536 Brandt Pike.]

SCOTT.

DEPARTMENT AND TO THE APPLICANT ITSELF, THE REAR OF THIS SITE IS WOODED.

SEE IF I CAN SHARE THE SCREEN UP THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE, THE FIRST OF THE ZONING CASES TONIGHT, UM, AND THERE'S THREE OF THEM TONIGHT AND ALL OF THEM ARE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS ON MONDAY.

SO THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL DISCUSSION THAT I WILL GO THROUGH, UH, THE, UH, THE BASICS OF THE CASE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, UM, MONDAY, IT WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE FIRST HAVE SCHEDULED TWO READINGS FOR EACH OF THESE.

THE FIRST ONE IS TO APPROVE A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TAKE FIVE OIL CHANGE FACILITY AT 75 36 BRAND PIKE.

THIS IS LOCATED ON, UH, THE EAST SIDE OF BRANT PIKE, JUST NORTH OF THE HARDEE'S RESTAURANT.

THIS IS A USED TO BE A GAS STATION SITE YEARS AGO.

AND THEN I THINK IT WAS A SMOKE SHOP.

UH, AND EVENTUALLY THE BUILDING'S BEEN TORN DOWN AND YOU STILL HAVE REMNANTS OF A PARKING LOT OUT THERE.

UM, CURRENTLY, UM, AND THE SITE HAS TWO CURB CUTS.

SO, UH, THE ACCESS CURRENTLY, UH, COMING OFF A BRAND PIKE, THE PROPOSAL IS TO, UH, ONE, UH, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CURB CUTS.

SO YOU JUST HAVE THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE ONTO THE SITE AND TO PLACE A NEW BUILDING FOR, UH, THIS, UH, QUICK LUBE OIL CHANGE FACILITY.

SO THE ACCESS TO THE SITE, AS YOU COME ONTO THE SITE, YOU'LL COME AROUND AND YOU ENTER THE BUILDING FROM THE BACK.

THIS IS THE STYLE OF OIL CHANGE FACILITY, WHERE YOU STAY IN YOUR CAR, UM, AND THEN THEY DO THE OLD CHANGE.

AND THEN YOU LEAVE OUT THE FRONT.

THERE ARE THREE BAYS THAT THIS, UH, DISCUSSION THAT A PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, TALKED ABOUT.

THIS IS NOT THE KIND WHERE THERE'S SOMEBODY DOWN IN LIKE A BASEMENT.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE THAT THEY WILL GO UNDERNEATH THE CARS, UH, AND BASICALLY WORK, UH, ONE EMPLOYEE AT A TIME AT EACH OF THE VEHICLES THAT COME THROUGH.

UM, PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT PARKING SPACES.

THEY, UH, SHOWED ONLY, UH, FIVE TOTAL PARKING SPACES.

THAT WAS A, AN AMENDMENT, UH, THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED IS, UH, A MINIMUM OF SEVEN PARKING SPACES.

SO THAT HANDLES, UH, UH, STAFF WHEN OUR LARGEST LARGEST SHIFT.

UM, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE JUST PULLING IN AND PARKING AND VISITING, UM, AT THIS SITE.

UM, ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION AS PART OF THIS PLAN, UM, THERE WILL BE, UM, FIRE COMMENTS FOR A, AN TURNAROUND AS YOU COME IN, THEY'LL PUT IN LIKE A HAMMERHEAD THERE AT THAT MAIN ENTRANCE IN CASE THERE'S A NEED FOR, UM, A FIRE VEHICLE TO GO ONSITE THAT HAS TO MAKE THAT TURN, UM, RATHER THAN A BYPASS LANE ON THE OUTER SIDE THAT, UH, SAVES A LOT MORE OF THE GREEN SPACE, UM, AND WHAT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO THE FIRE

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AND SO THAT IS, UH, GOING TO REMAIN, UM, THAT THEY ARE, UH, KEEPING EVERYTHING MORE TOWARDS THE FRONT.

THE THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANY DETENTION ON THIS SITE, BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY LESS IMPERVIOUS AREA THAN WHAT IS OUT THERE CURRENTLY.

UM, UTILITIES IT'S, UH, CONNECTING INTO THE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER, UM, JUST AS THE SITE PREVIOUSLY DID, UH, ITSELF.

SO THE, UH, MORE LANDSCAPING OUT FRONT AND, UH, THROUGHOUT THE SITE, IT'S A, UH, A WELL LANDSCAPE SITE.

UM, THEY ARE, THE DRAINAGE PATTERN GOES TOWARDS THE REAR, SO THEY'LL CONTINUE THAT, UH, PATTERN.

AND THEN THE BUILDING ITSELF IS, UH, UM, ALL MASONRY EXCEPT FOR THE, UH, THE GARAGE DOORS ITSELF, UH, SO DIFFERENT, UH, FORMS OF EFS AND SOME STUCCO, UM, AND MULTIPLE COLORS.

UH, THIS IS, UH, THEY DID NOT SUBMIT A SIGN PACKAGE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION A FEW.

WHAT'S YOUR DATE? UM, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, FIVE TO ZERO ON THIS ONE.

AND, UM, IT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S READY FOR THEM PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY.

THANKS SCOTT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KELSEY REGARDING THIS CASE, MR. WEBB? THANK YOU.

REMEMBER, SCOTT TOOK A, UM, A DRIVE UP AND AROUND THE WHAT'S LEFT OF THE PARKING LOT, THE TANKS THAT WERE THERE FROM THE PREVIOUS STATION A LONG TIME AGO, IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE HAVE BEEN, UH, HAVE THOSE BEEN REMOVED.

YEAH, THE, THE SITE HAS BEEN ABATED, I'LL SAY SO.

UM, THE, THE EPA WAS INVOLVED.

UH, THE, UH, UM, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN THIS WAS, BUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, SO THE TANKS WERE REMOVED AND THE SOIL'S BEEN TESTED AND SOME MONITORING WELLS WERE PUTTING AT THE TIME OR REALLY TAKEN CARE OF.

AWESOME.

UM, NO, IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT, THANK YOU.

THANKS.

MA'AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL MONDAY? SOUNDS GOOD.

[ ZC 21-14 - Campbell Berling Huber Heights, LLC - Rezoning/Major Change - Chambersburg Road]

NEXT UP THERE'S ITEM 3G, WHICH IS UNDER CASE 21 DASH 14, CAMPBELL BERLIN.

HE WRITES LLC.

THIS IS REZONING FOR MAJOR CHANGE ON CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.

UH, THEY WOULD SEND OUT TO THOSE RESIDENTS PRIOR TO A PURCHASE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF, UH, WHAT THOSE ARE.

UM, SO QUAIL RIDGE CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF A NEW, UH, UH, PUD FOR THE SITE.

AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT WAS APPROVED FOR 68, RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOR THE 21 ACRES.

THAT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.

UM, AFTER THAT APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT WENT THROUGH AND STARTED DOING SOME MORE, UM, DUE DILIGENCE AND, UH, UH, UPON THE, WE'LL SAY THE TOP OF THE HILL, UH, NEXT TO STONY CREEK, UH, THEY DID SOME SOIL BORINGS THERE AND FOUND ROCK THAT WAS VERY SHALLOW AND, UM, AS IT WAS CALLED UNRELIABLE, UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DIG THROUGH WOULD TAKE DYNAMITES, UM, AND THAT WOULDN'T WORK NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE ABLE TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH.

SO, UH, THE APPLICANTS, UH, CAME UP WITH A NEW PLAN THAT LEAVES, UH, OPEN SPACE IN THAT AREA AND IS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LOTS, UH, THAT IS, UH, BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO IN GENERAL, THE, THE, THE LOT SIZES ARE ALL THE SAME AS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THE BUFFER ZONES, UH, NO DISTURB ZONES ON EACH OF THE SIDES IS REMAINING THE SAME.

UH, THE, UH, EMERGENCY ACCESS TO HIGHLY A PARK IS REMAINING THE SAME.

IT'S JUST NOW THAT, UH, THIS IS ENDING IN A CUL-DE-SAC INSTEAD OF LOOPING BACK, BUT THEN THE, THERE IS AN ADDITION OF FOUR FLAG, LOTS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE.

UM, THAT WOULD BE, UM, BEHIND SOME OF THE OTHER LOTS, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE PURCHASING THE LOTS THAT FRONT ON THE MAIN STREETS, THAT THEY ARE NOTIFIED THAT THERE WILL BE DRIVEWAYS NEXT TO THEM THAT GO BACK TO THESE FLAG LOTS.

SO THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PROPOSED, UH, UM, LANGUAGE OF WHAT,

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AND THAT'S, UM, AS I SAID, THAT THERE'D BE A DRIVEWAY, UM, IN THEIR SIDE YARD, THEY WILL STILL HAVE THE SAME WITH LOTS THAT, UH, UM, ALL THE REST OF THEM DO THEIRS.

IT WOULD JUST BE, UM, AN ADDITIONAL SHARED DRIVEWAY BETWEEN, UH, LISTED TWO SETS OF FLAT LOTS THAT WOULD SHARE A DRIVEWAY.

THERE WILL BE, UM, IN THE PLATTING AND IN THE DEED, THERE WILL BE AN AGREEMENT IN EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR MAINTENANCE, UM, OF THAT DRIVE SHARED BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.

UH, THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A CONNECTION OUT TO CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.

UM, WE ARE, UH, PUTTING INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT, UH, THEY CANNOT HAVE A DRIVEWAY ACCESS TO CHAMBERSBURG ROAD THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF.

UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS WHAT THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL WAS.

UM, IT'S JUST A REDUCTION NOW DOWN TO 43, RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THIS ALSO IS SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC YEAH.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR SCOTT AS A MERCHANT.

SCOTT, HOW WIDE ARE THOSE, UH, THOSE, THOSE, UH, SHARED DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE, UM, IT'S A TOTAL OF 25 FEET FOR THE, THE, UM, IT'S 12 AND A HALF FOOT ON EACH LOT.

SO A TOTAL OF TWENTY-FIVE FEET, THE DRIVEWAY ITSELF, UM, WOULD BE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, THAT'S BAD PLANNED OUT YET, BUT AT LEAST 12 WEEKS.

UM, SO IT HAD ENOUGH FOR ONE CAR FOR EACH HOMEOWNER UH WIDTH-WISE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PARK TANDEM.

THEY WOULDN'T PARK ON THIS DRIVEWAY.

THIS WOULD JUST TO GET BACK TO THEIR SITE ITSELF.

OH, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YES, SCOTT, I HAD A QUESTION.

SO IF IT'S MORE THAN 30 HOUSES, WILL THERE BE A SECOND ENTRANCE? YES.

THERE IS A CONNECTION DOWN TO LEXINGTON PLACE.

THERE IS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT THERE THAT, UH, GOES FROM THE PUBLIC STREETS OVER TO HIGHLY A PARK.

SO THAT IS PART OF THE PLAN TO HAVE THAT SECONDARY ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY.

AND THAT WILL BE GATED OFF AND LOCKED, OR JUST THAT IT WILL BE ITS OWN SEPARATE LOT TO NOT BE PART OF ANYBODY ELSE'S LOT.

AND IT WOULD CONNECT TO THE LOTS THAT HAS THE STORM WATER DETENTION IT'LL BE OPEN.

THERE THEY'LL HAVE A GATE THERE.

UM, THAT'S THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES WILL, UM, PROBABLY A KNOX LOCK THAT'S, UH, SO THAT IT CAN'T BE USED FOR, NO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO MONDAY FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE H WHICH IS ZONING CASE 21 DASH 16 BROAD REACH RETAIL PARTNERS, LLC REZONING FOR BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON OLD TROY PIKE AND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, SCOTT.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG

[ ZC 21-16 - Broadreach Retail Partners, LLC - Rezoning/Basic Development Plan - Old Troy Pike/Taylorsville Road]

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THIS IS, UH, FOR THE, UH, UH, ZONING CASE FOR A, UH, REZONING FOR 17.2 ACRES.

THIS IS CURRENTLY MULTIPLE PARCELS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF TAYLORSVILLE AND OLD TROY PIKE.

UH, THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX AND B3.

SO THERE IS A, UH, MULTI-FAMILY COMPONENT CURRENTLY, THAT IS THE SOUTHERN END OF IT.

AND THEN THE NORTHERN END OF IT HAS THE BUSINESS, UH, ZONING.

UH, THERE AREN'T CURRENTLY, UH, THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON THE SITE, PLUS SOME OFFICES.

AND THEN WHAT COMES OFF OF HEBER ROAD IS THE VACANT PORTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SO THE, THE REQUEST IS TO REDEVELOP THE SITE AND BASICALLY FLIP THOSE TWO USES.

SO HAVE THE MORE THE COMMERCIAL USE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHERN END AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE LOCATED AT THE NORTHERN END.

SO WITH THAT, UH, THE CITY'S 2011 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,

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UH, SHOWS THIS AREA AS COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND MIXED DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

SO THIS, UH, AS IT'S CURRENTLY USED THIS PROPOSED USE DOES FOLLOW OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE, UH, REQUEST, AS I MENTIONED, HAS THE, UH, COMMERCIAL USE, UM, WHICH HAS PROPOSED BUILDINGS AND OUT LOTS THAT, UH, WOULD HAVE ACCESS OUT TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD AND TO OLD TROY PIKE.

UH, THERE'LL BE, UH, ALL MASONRY BUILDINGS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME EXAMPLE LOOKS, THIS IS, UH, A REQUEST FOR THE USE TO BE APPROVED.

SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS MAY NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS WHEN THEY COME FORWARD WITH A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE GO THROUGH.

AND THEN AS YOU GET BACK TO THE MULTIFAMILY AREA, THE MULTIFAMILY ALSO IS, UH, ALL MASONRY.

SO A COMBINATION OF A BRICK STONE, THE FIBER CEMENT BOARD, UH, FOR THE SIDING THREE STORY AND RIGHT, UM, 192 MARKET RATE APARTMENTS IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS FOR THAT AREA.

SO THIS DOES FIT WITHIN THE, UH, PLANT MIXED USE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, SOME OF THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS TO SHOW SOME OF THE DEPTH AND THE MATERIALS.

SO, UH, THE DISCUSSION AT PLANNING, COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, DIDN'T HAVE, UH, ANY, UH, REAL ISSUES WITH THE USE ITSELF, THE COMBINATION OF, UM, THE COMMERCIAL AREA AND MULTIFAMILY AREA.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, IT DOES FITS, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SOME OF THE CURRENT USES THE MAJORITY OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, REVOLVED AROUND TRAFFIC AND ACCESS TO THE SITE.

SO, UM, WITH THAT THERE THERE'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TWO FOLD OF THE TRAFFIC DISCUSSION.

THIS PROJECT ITSELF, UH, ENCOMPASSES, AS I MENTIONED, 17.2 ACRES, BUT THE OVERALL LOOK AND DISCUSSION IS ABOUT THE WHOLE AREA AND THE CORRIDOR OF OLD TROY PIKE AND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.

SO AS YOU GO NORTHBOUND FROM TAYLORSVILLE, UH, UP TO THE HIGHWAY AND BEYOND, UM, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC CURRENTLY, AND ALSO AT THE INTERSECTION OF MERRILY WAY AND OLD TROY PIKE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HELP IMPROVE.

SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, ON OLD TROY PIKE, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING TO, UM, WHY TO KNOW TROY PIKE AND ADDITIONAL LANE.

SO THIS WILL BE AN EXPRESS LANE THAT, UH, ALSO WILL, UM, THAT THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO EXTEND THIS ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE CURRENTLY IT DOES WIDEN OUT FOR A, UH, AN EASTBOUND TURN ONTO .

SO THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT EXPRESS LANE, UM, BASICALLY TAKING A TWO LANE ROAD INTO A THREE LANE ROAD.

SO THE INCREASE IN VOLUME IS, UH, BY A THIRD, UM, OF, UH, WHAT, UH, THAT TOTAL CAPACITY WOULD BE AS, UH, IF YOU GO UP THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S CURRENTLY WORK BEING DONE AT THE INTERSECTION OF OLD TROY PIKE AND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.

UM, PART OF THAT IS FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS FOR THE MASS STORMS THAT ARE ALSO, THERE IS THE WIDENING OF OLD TROY PIKE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF TAYLORSVILLE ROAD TO PUT IN THAT TURN LANE, UH, ON TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.

SO THAT'S A CURRENT PROJECT THAT, UH, THE CITY IS WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

UM, ALSO WITH THIS, UH, THERE IS THE PROPOSAL TO, UH, REMOVE HEBA ROAD, UM, AS A THAT'S THE AREA WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS WILL GO AND ALSO TO IMPROVE THE ACCESS OUT ON TO OLD TROY PIKE.

THE PROPOSAL IS FOR A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UM, AT THE EXISTING ENTRANCE ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, AT BURGER KING THAT ENTRANCE.

SO TO LINE UP THOSE ACCESS POINTS AND HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, HUBER ROAD BEING CLOSED OFF IT, BECAUSE THAT IS AWFULLY CLOSE TO THAT NEW SIGNAL, UM, THAT WOULD ALL HAVE THAT ACCESS NOW BEING BROUGHT TO THE SIGNAL.

SO THIS WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT EXISTING BUSINESSES.

UH, THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY HELP IMPROVE THE, BE ABLE THE ABILITY TO GET OUT ON TO TROY PIKE, UM, BECAUSE

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YOU BE ABLE TO USE THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.

SO AS YOU KEEP GOING FURTHER NORTH ON THAT, UM, YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THE CITY'S ALREADY DONE IS PUT THOSE DELINEATORS OUT SO THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT, UH, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT WILL SAY DODGE, THE PORK CHOP, AND TRY TO DO THE LEFT TURNS IN AND OUT OF, UH, EITHER STARBUCKS OR, UH, FIVE GUYS, UH, LOCATION.

UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN AN IMPROVEMENT OF, UH, PEOPLE NOT TRYING TO MAKE THOSE MOVEMENTS THEN UP EX UH, MERRILY WAY ITSELF.

UH, SO THERE'S, UH, PLANS TO, UH, IMPROVE SOME OF THE SIGNAGE.

SOME OF THE ISSUES UP THERE IS, UH, PEOPLE COMING OUT INTO THE INTERSECTION AND WE'LL SAY, STOPPING AND BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC, UM, BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY CAN GET THROUGH AND THEY RUN THAT YELLOW, RED LIGHT.

UM, SO THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL NOTICE FOR THEM THEN ALSO ON MERRILY WAY ITSELF.

UH, WE HAD WIDENED THE AREA, UM, WHERE MCDONALD'S IS TO MAKE, UM, UH, BASICALLY TWO LANES SO THAT IF MCDONALD'S BACKED UP, YOU HAD THE ABILITY THAT SOME OF THE VEHICLES YOU COULD STILL GET AROUND WHAT WE HAVE NOW, UH, RIGHT ABOUT WHEN WE WERE FIRST TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE TIME WHEN, UH, THE WEATHER BROKE AND EVERYBODY DECIDED THAT THEY NEEDED TO CLEAN THE SALT OFF THEIR VEHICLES.

AND THE NEXT BUSINESS, THERE IS A CARWASH, UH, GOT VERY BUSY.

SO WE NOTICED ANOTHER ISSUE OF SOME OF THAT BACKING OUT ONTO MERRILY WAY AND NOT BEING ABLE TO GET AROUND THOSE VEHICLES.

SO, UM, ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THERE IS EXTENDING THAT WIDENED AREA DOWN FURTHER TO GET THERE SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT, UH, WE'LL CALL IT THAT TWO LANE AREA TO BE ABLE TO GET DOWN AND UTILIZE THE, THE HOTEL, THE RESTAURANTS, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, FURTHER DOWN MERRILY WAY ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF MY WAY.

ALSO A WIDE IN THAT AREA FOR THE TURN LANE TO GO ON TO OLD TROY PIKE TOO.

CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT, UH, YOU HAVE TWO LANES RIGHT NOW, ONE TURNS LEFT ON, UH, SOUTHBOUND ONTO OLD TROY AND THE, UH, NORTHERN ONE EITHER GO STRAIGHT OR TURNS ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL TURN LANE WILL INCREASE THAT CAPACITY AND FREE UP SOME OF THAT SPACE TO ALLOW FOR MORE MOVEMENTS, UH, FROM MERRILY LANE ITSELF, AS YOU KEEP GOING NORTHBOUND.

UM, MR. BERGMAN JUST, UH, SHOWED ME THE DESIGN PLANS FOR REDOING THE MEDIAN AREA, UM, RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THE GAS STATIONS ARE.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALSO NOTICED AN ISSUE OF, UH, SOME STACKING OF, IF SOMEBODY'S WANTING TO MAKE A TURN PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO GO NORTHBOUND AND BE ABLE TO MAKE A WESTBOUND TURN ONTO THE HIGHWAY, UH, SOME OF THAT TO BACKS OUT AND, UH, BLOCKS OLD TROY PIKE AS DURING SOME OF THE HEAVIER TIMES, UH, THIS DESIGN THAT, UH, WE, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE JUST GOT THE DESIGN DRAWINGS IN.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BRING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL HERE IN, UH, IN A FUTURE MEETING, UM, ABOUT REDOING THAT TO ALLOW FOR MORE STACKING, TO GET ONTO A HIGHWAY AND ALSO SOME, UH, UM, BETTER MOVEMENTS ALONG WITH TROY PIKE IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT'S, UH, SOME OF THE, THE OVERALL DISCUSSION OF OLD TROY PIKE NOW GOING DOWN TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, THIS PROJECT ITSELF HAS WIDENING OF OLD OF TAYLORSVILLE EXTENDING THE WIDENING.

THERE'S A, THE WIDENING JUST FOR A TURN LANE RIGHT NOW THAT GOES NORTHBOUND ON TWO OLD TROY PIKE.

THIS WILL EXTEND THAT BACK, UH, ALONG THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR MORE, UH, STACKING OF THAT.

UM, AS YOU COME OUT, UH, FROM TAYLORSVILLE AND WANTING TO EITHER MAKE THAT RIGHT-HAND TURN OR TO CONTINUE DOWN TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, UM, ALONG THE INTERIOR, GET BACK TO ALONG THE WAY INTERIOR, THERE THERE'S MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS AND, UH, UH, WAYS TO MOVE THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

UM, UH, WANT TO CAUTION THAT THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT A DETAILED PLAN WOULD COME WITH FINAL DESIGN AT A LATER DATE, BUT THE, THE OVERALL TRAFFIC PLAN IS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS CORRECT ON THIS, THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS OUT TO OLD TROY PIKE AT A SIGNAL, UM, THAT, UH, LET'S SAY ANYBODY COMING FROM THE MULTIFAMILY, THAT ONE WANTS TO GO NORTHBOUND.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SIGNAL AND TURN RIGHT AND GO UP TO THE HIGHWAY OR CROSS THE HIGHWAY OR WHEREVER THEY'RE LOOKING TO GO.

IF THEY ARE LOOKING TO GO SOUTHBOUND, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPTIONS.

UH, ONE IS DEPENDS ON TIME OF DAY.

THEY CAN GO OUT TO THE LIGHT AND TURN AT THAT SIGNAL AND GO SOUTHBOUND ON OLD TROY PIKE.

THIS ALSO PROVIDES MULTIPLE

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WAYS TO GET DOWN TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, TO FOCUS SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC TO GET AWAY FROM OLD TROY PIKE TRAFFIC.

SO IF THEY WANTED TO GET DOWN TAYLORSVILLE, HEAD EASTBOUND, IF THEY WERE GOING OVER TO BRANDT PIKE FOR THAT AREA, THEY WOULD GO DIRECTLY DOWN TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.

ALSO, YOU CAN GO DOWN TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD TURN RIGHT, AND GO TO A SIGNAL THERE TO BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT AND GO SOUTHBOUND ON OLD TROY WHERE IT'S NOT AS CONGESTED.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, KIND OF THAT DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH THE APPLICANT OF, UH, WHAT THE USERS WILL REALLY DO, UM, WHAT YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE AS SOMEBODY THAT LIVES BACK IN THE APARTMENT AREA WILL COME OUT TOWARDS THAT LIGHT.

THEY'LL GET TO THAT, UH, INTERIOR INTERSECTION, LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S BACKED UP.

IF THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WAITING AT THAT SIGNAL AND MAKE A DECISION RIGHT THERE ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD OR GO TO THE SIGNAL ITSELF.

SO THIS ALLOWS FOR THAT, UH, UM, THAT TRAFFIC PATTERN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO GET TO EITHER THE MULTIFAMILY AREA OR TO ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS ITSELF.

THERE IS A LARGE, UH, WE'LL CALL IT A RETENTION POND, UH, ON THE SITE, THE OLD GRAVEL AREA, IT'S A VERY DEEP, UM, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR STORMWATER DETENTION FOR THIS SITE.

UM, BUT THAT'S THAT TRAFFIC PATTERN GOES AROUND THAT IN ITSELF.

UM, THERE ARE PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT RUN THROUGH THIS.

SO THERE'S WATER AND SEWER THAT ALREADY RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'LL CONNECT INTO, UM, AND THEN GOES ALONG THE EXTERIOR AS WELL.

SO THERE'S NO CAPACITY ISSUES FOR WATER OR SEWER, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS SITE ITSELF.

SO THIS IS, UH, ALSO SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY.

UM, PLANNING COMMISSION DID HAVE A, UH, DISCUSSION, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE MAJORITY OF DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN FOR TRAFFIC.

UH, SO IT WAS, UH, UH, IT WENT FURTHER THAN JUST WHAT'S THIS PROJECT DOES, BUT WHAT THIS PROJECT DOES IS, UH, PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MORE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT AREA.

UM, THAT'S, UH, CURRENTLY, UM, WHEN I SAID WE WE'VE, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING ISSUES, UM, DEFINITELY DIFFERENT TIMES A DAY, WHERE THINGS ARE BACKED UP ALL TO, UH, TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, ADDING THAT EXPRESS LANE.

AND, UH, WE'LL BE RETAINING ALL THE LIGHTS WITH THAT ADDITIONAL LIGHT ALL THE WAY FROM THE TAYLORSVILLE UP TO THE HIGHWAY.

AND, UH, JUST NOTICED IN TRYING TO CONTINUE THAT, UH, TIMING BETTER EVEN NORTH OF THE HIGHWAY ITSELF, OH, NOT HAS HAD CONTROL OF THE HIGHWAY TIMING.

AND THAT'S BEEN SOME OF THE ISSUE OF ODAT WOULD LIKE TO GET ALL THE CARS OFF THE HIGHWAY AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT STACKING BACK ON THOSE RAMPS.

WELL, THAT TIMING DOESN'T ALWAYS LINE UP WITH OUR TIMING OF GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE INTERSECTION ON OLD TROY PIKE.

SO, UH, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OF WORKING WITH ODATA ON, UH, A BETTER TRAFFIC TIMING TO GET THROUGH THAT, TO, UM, RELEASE THOSE, UH, CARS AT A BETTER RATE AND BETTER TIMING AND STAGGERING THEM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOOD FLOW THAT GOES THROUGH THAT AREA.

SO, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS FOUR TO ONE, AND AS MENTIONED, THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY.

THANKS, SCOTT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU WRAPPING THAT UP THERE ABOUT THE LIGHT TIMING.

THAT'S THE ONE NOTE THAT I HAVE ON, ON ALL THIS IS, I KNOW THOSE LIGHTS ON I 70 IS KIND OF THE PAIN OF ALL OF OUR EXISTENCE WHEN THOSE THINGS AREN'T TIMED, RIGHT WITH THE REST OF THE LIGHTS ON OLD TROY, THAT CREATES SUCH A HUGE BACKUP.

I KNOW WHEN, UH, EMS SERVICES GO THROUGH, I MEAN, THAT CHANGES BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO SHIFT THE TURN, THE LIGHTS, SO THEY HAVE ACCESS, BUT THEN WHEN THOSE THINGS GET RESET AND THEN WE RESET THEM AND THEN ODAT COMES BACK IN AND CHANGES THEM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S THIS BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR EVER.

SO, YEAH, WE, WE HAVE TO GET A PLAN TO FIX THAT.

CAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAVE IS THE BACKUP ON OLD.

TROY HAS THOSE LIGHTS AT 70, IF ALL THE OTHER LIGHTS ON OLD TROY GREEN, BUT THOSE ARE RED AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO MOVE.

THEN WE ENDED UP PEOPLE SITTING IN THE INTERSECTION OF MARILEE AND OLD TROY PIKE.

SO WHEN THE OTHER LIGHTS TURNED GREEN TO GET ONTO A TRAIN, THERE'S NO PLACE TO GO BECAUSE THE LIGHTS ON AT 70 ARE AREN'T MOVING.

SO THIS BACK AND FORTH HAS JUST BEEN FRUSTRATING.

ALL OF US CAN GO AND MAKE SOME OF THOSE HAVE GONE UP AND SET AND MCDONALD'S, AND ARBY'S, AND JUST KIND OF WATCHED HOW THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS MOVE.

AND THOSE LIGHTS AT 70 ARE JUST LIKE, YOU'RE KILLING ME.

I MEAN, THEY JUST START, NEVER SEEM TO BE IN SYNC WITH, WITH THE REST OF THEM.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL GOOD THAT WE CAN GET WITH A, NOT TO LEAVE THEM ALONE ONCE THEY'RE SET OR WHEN THEY READ TIME ON RE TIME ON WITH THE REST OF OUR LIVES? THAT'S IT IT'LL BE A

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CONSTANT PROCESS OF, UM, WE WILL KEEP AN EYE ON IT WHEN IT DOES MAKE CHANGES THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE CHANGES AS WELL, UM, THAT THEY ARE SINKED BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST NOTICED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, LOOKING AT IT MORE AND MORE, THE FAR ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 70 WAS MORE OF THE ISSUE THAN MERRILY WAY AND THE SOUTHERN ONE, BECAUSE THOSE TURNED GREEN, THE RIGHT PATTERN TO LET PEOPLE START MOVING, BUT YOU COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE THAT FAR ONE WAS STILL RED AND DIDN'T RELEASE EVERYBODY.

UM, SO, SO YES, IT'S, IT IS A CONSTANT DISCUSSION WITHOUT DOTS AND THAT'S, IT TAKES CONSTANT TWEAKING.

THAT'S WHAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT WHEN THE, WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOES THROUGH AND THEN IT'S RELEASED FROM THEIR WHOLE DUSTIN, IT DEFAULT BACK TO WHAT OUR PREVIOUS SETTINGS IT DOES.

SOMETIMES IT TAKES SEVERAL CYCLES FOR IT TO CATCH UP AND THAT'S, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A BACKUP THERE THAT'S BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY IS STOPPED AND THEN IT TAKES A COUPLE OF CYCLES, IT COULD TAKE A GOOD HALF HOUR TO GET BACK TO A NORMAL TRAFFIC PATTERN.

THANK ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

UM, CAN YOU CLARIFY, SO THE APARTMENT'S PROJECTED ARE 192 APARTMENTS.

HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH FOR TWO APARTMENTS, SEVEN AND A HALF THE MEN APARTMENT? UM, I BELIEVE IT'S TWO SPACES PER UNIT.

SO IT MIGHT BE, UM, THAT THAT'LL COME WITH THE DETAILED PLAN THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE WHAT, UH, WHERE OUR CITY CODE, UM, ALLOWS FOR.

UM, SO THEY WILL, UM, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER, BUT THEY SAID THEY DO HAVE THE REQUIRED AMOUNTS.

THE ABILITY TO PUT THAT ON THIS SITE IS ONE MORE QUESTION.

SO IT'S A THREE-STORY BUILDING.

WELL, THEY HAVE ELEVATORS FOR ACCESSIBLE FOR HANDICAPPED.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NOW THEY, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T.

SO BEFORE, UM, ACCESSIBLE UNITS WILL BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MR. WEBB.

MA'AM UM, I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN CAMPED OUT UP THERE AND RVS AND ON THE OF PROPERTY AND OVER WHERE THE OIL CHANGE I'VE BEEN CAMPED OUT UP THERE.

AND LOOK, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO PULL THE TRAFFIC OFF OF OLD TWI PIKE AND INTO THIS AREA AS WELL.

SOME OF THE OTHER LIKE STARBUCKS, AND I DO WANT TO COMMEND THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY ON THIS PLAN BECAUSE I HAD TO DO SOME VISIONING OF IT.

BUT WHEN YOU GO UP THERE AND YOU VISION, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT LANE, SOUTH OF TAYLORSVILLE, ALL THE WAY UP TO BASICALLY PULL THAT TRAFFIC OFF AND INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE WAY THEY'RE DOING IT WITH THE RIGHT TURN AND RIGHT TURNOUTS PLUS THE SIGNAL, I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH.

UM, WHAT I THINK WILL BE A GOOD SOLUTION, NOT ONLY FOR OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS UP THERE, BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE GREAT ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I SAW THE, THE DRIVEWAY AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THERE, BEHIND THE POND THAT COMES OUT TO TAYLORSVILLE.

I SEE THAT AS MORE OF A DRIVEWAY TO THE RESIDENCE AS I, I SEE IT SERVICES THE, THE NEW PROPOSED BUILDING ON TAYLORSVILLE, BUT IT REALLY APPEARS TO BE MORE OF A DRIVEWAY TO GET BACK JUST TO THE RESIDENCES OF THE, UH, APARTMENTS BACK THERE, PROBABLY ON THE RIGHT.

I COULD SEE THAT AS BEING MORE USED AS AN ENTRANCE BACK IN THERE.

YES, EXACTLY.

YEP.

THE, UM, UM, I AM CURIOUS TO SEE, UH, IT'S YOUR ITEM I ON THE CITY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, UM, WHAT RUSS HAS COME UP WITH REGARDING THE AREA IN FRONT OF THE BP STATION.

CAUSE THAT IS, I THINK THE PROPER TERM IS THAT IS A CLUSTER BECAUSE IT, UM, UH, MAN PEOPLE TRYING TO GET INTO BP, OR MAYBE NOT, THEY'RE JUST GETTING INTO THE LANE TO GOING DOWN TO MCDONALD'S FOR THE CARS COMING THIS WAY, TRYING TO GET OVER INTO THE, THE TURN LANE TO GET ON I 70 WESTBOUND.

SO I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT, UH, AGAIN, I THINK AN IMPROVEMENT THERE WILL BENEFIT THE WHOLE PLAN AS WELL.

SO OVERALL I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH WHAT I SEE HERE IN FRONT OF ME.

UM, AS FAR AS ALLEVIATING SOME OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES WE HAVE UP THERE.

MA'AM THANKS IS WITH

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MR. SHELL.

UM, BEFORE I GET INTO MY DISCUSSION, I AGAIN, WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK, UH, BROADREACH MIKE AND, AND YOUR ENTIRE GROUP, UH, FROM THE ORIGINAL SET OF PLANS.

FROM THE TIME WE HAD A SIT DOWN CONVERSATION MANY MOONS AGO TO TILL NOW A HUGE IMPROVEMENT.

I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, UH, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, UH, THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

UM, I JUST HAVE TWO CONCERNS.

I DID HAVE THREE COMING INTO THIS MEETING, UM, BUT I WANT TO THANK MY, UH, UH, MY INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO SITTING TO THE RIGHT WHO SOLD ME ON THIS RIGHT TURN LANE ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH, UH, AFTER DOING SOME DISCUSSION AND OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE NOW TAKEN THAT OFF THE TABLE, IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, UH, ADDITION, HOWEVER, I STILL HAVE TWO CONCERNS.

ONE OF THEM IS THE COMMERCIAL TRUCK TRAFFIC, UM, GETTING ONTO THIS PROPERTY AND INCLUDING, UM, NOW BEARS DEVELOPMENT, UH, THERE AT WAYNE TOWN.

UH, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO WORK ALTOGETHER TO GET THAT FIXED.

UM, I THINK EVERYBODY HAS SEEN SEMI-TRUCKS ROLL OVER SIDEWALKS.

UM, CARS BACKED UP.

WE, I THINK THAT IS A HUGE FIX.

IN ADDITION TO, AS THE MAYOR STATED THE TIMING OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, THAT IS I THINK PROBLEM NUMBER TWO, UM, THAT WE ALL HAVE TO FIX AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, THE PORK CHOPS THAT ARE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S ONLY ONE AREA WHERE I CAN SEE TRUCKS TURNING INTO.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE THE NEW TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE AT, AT BURGER KING.

AND IF WE HAVE TRUCKS TURNING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND TURNING OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET, UM, I CAN SEE US HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION AGAIN LATER.

UM, WHEN RESIDENTS ARE BLOWING UP MY PHONE WONDERING WHY THERE'S STILL TRAFFIC ISSUES NOW, BECAUSE WE'VE TRIED TO ALLEVIATE EVERYTHING, BUT NOW WE THREW SEMI-TRUCKS RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S NUMBER ONE FOR ME.

NUMBER TWO IS SOMEHOW SOME WAY, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS.

I JUST HAVE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY WANT TO SEE AND WHAT I THINK WILL WORK OUT BEST FOR EVERYBODY.

UM, I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A CONNECTION, UM, FROM, TO MERRITT LEEWAY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CONVERSATION WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES ON THE OTHER SIDE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE, THE CITY NEEDED TO HAVE WITH VINE, BROOKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO FURTHER WITH YOU GUYS OR HAVE ALL THREE OF US SITTING DOWN THERE IN MY OPINION HAS TO BE THAT CONNECTION POINT, NOT ONLY FOR NOW, BUT FUTURE GROWTH IN THAT AREA.

UM, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE.

I THINK IT WOULD WORK OUT BEAUTIFULLY, NOT ONLY FOR THE 192 APARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE.

UM, BUT I THINK ALSO FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AND FUTURE GROWTH, UM, I, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO IT BECAUSE PRIOR TO, YOU KNOW, THIS CONVERSATION, WHEN I MET WITH MANY OF YOU FOLKS, I HAD A LAUNDRY LIST OF CONCERNS.

NOW I'M DOWN TO THE TWO MAJOR ONES.

UM, UH, SO THE, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS MAYOR, BUT I THINK WE AS A COUNCIL NEED TO SIT HERE AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF SCOTT WANTS TO CHIME IN, IF THE, UM, APPLIQUE, UM, BROADER REACH WANTS TO CHIME IN, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO, TO WEIGH THAT OUT.

I KNOW THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION PIECE OF PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY INPUT ON THIS.

EVERYTHING ELSE I'M GOOD WITH.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I MEAN, THERE IS, I DO THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MARY LEE WAY IN TAYLORSVILLE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT AFFECTS, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT CONNECTION AFFECTS THIS PARTICULAR PIECE HERE, THE ACTUAL ZONING, UM, OR VISTA DEVELOPMENT.

I MEAN, WE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT ACCESS POINT AT THE END OF MERRILY WAY, AND THERE'S ONLY SO MANY DIRECTIONS THAT CAN GO OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING TO TAKE SOME PROPERTY FROM THE HOTEL OWNER AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO, OR OR ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO END UP, UH, I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THAT, UH, WITH THE EASTERN EDGE OF THOSE APARTMENTS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A LANE OR A, ALMOST, UH, A DRIVEWAY ALL THE WAY AROUND WITH INSERTED PARKING SPACES.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE WITHOUT EATING UP THOSE

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PARKING SPACES.

SO IF THERE'S ANY, ANY DISCUSSION, I MEAN, I THINK WE GOTTA TO LOOK AT, UM, ANY EXTENSION MERRILY WAY OUT TOWARDS MOUNT HOOD SOMEHOW, AND THEN MAYBE DOWN TO TAYLORSVILLE.

SO I THINK FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP RICHARD, CAUSE I DO THINK THAT SOME TRY SOME TYPE OF TRAFFIC FLOW THAT ELIMINATES A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC OFF OF OLD TROY SOMEHOW MOVES TO TAYLORSVILLE VIA MERRILY WAY.

I DON'T, I JUST, I THINK THERE'S SOME OPTIONS THERE.

WE COULD LOOK INTO THE DOESN'T AFFECT WHAT THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF US.

UM, BUT I THINK CERTAINLY, UH, I'M OPEN TO HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND LOOKING TO SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE.

UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY MOVE THAT ONTO ANOTHER WORK SESSION SOONER THAN LATER, BECAUSE I DO THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME OUR WAY, AS SOON AS THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAPPENS AND WHO ALL, WHOEVER SHOWS UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WHETHER THEY'RE HERE SPEAKING PERSONALLY OR NOT, I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU WHAT MY EMAILS ARE GOING TO READ, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WHAT MY, MY TEXT MESSAGES ARE GOING TO SAY, MY FACEBOOK MESSAGES ARE GOING TO SAY, AND THAT IS UNTIL UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE FULL TRAFFIC SOLUTION HERE IS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GET ATE UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THIS SITE IS APPROVED AND THAT ZONING IS APPROVED, PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO ASSUME WE'RE THROWING.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SEE ALL THIS TRAFFIC, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GOING TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE, NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE FULL TRAFFIC PATTERN IS.

SO I THINK, I THINK THERE IS A DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ON HOW WE IMPROVE TRAFFIC OVERALL.

THERE W THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST HAVE BEEN HIGH ON OUR RADAR FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, PROBABLY.

UM, BUT IN MY MIND, THOSE SOLUTIONS, AS I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE OVERALL TRAFFIC SOLUTION DOESN'T IMPACT THE SITE THAT I'M LOOKING AT IN FRONT OF ME.

UM, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION SOONER THAN LATER.

SO THE RESIDENTS AREN'T, SO THEY'RE KEPT UP TO DATE OR UP TO SPEED ON MAYBE WHAT WE THINK OUR OVERALL TRAFFIC PATTERN AND TRAFFIC SOLUTION IS NOT JUST, WE'RE GOING TO THROW IN ALL THIS EXTRA BUSINESS ALONG THE OLD TROY PIKE AND TAYLORSVILLE WITH, UM, WITH NO APARTMENTS AND NOT HAVE AN OVERALL PLAN.

BUT I AGREE, I THINK WITH JUST ONE SECOND, RICHARD, WITH, WITH WHAT MR. WEBB SAYS, I DO THINK THAT THAT EXPRESS LANE CERTAINLY HELPS, UM, THE WIDENING OF MERRILY WAY THERE, THE OTHER EXITS, AND WE ARE FINDING WAYS TO PULL TRAFFIC OFF OF OLD TROY DIFFERENT ACCESS ROUTES OR FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE SEE.

I THINK THAT'S OKAY.

I MEAN, I LIKE WHAT I SEE THERE.

I JUST THINK THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THE CITY'S OVERALL MUCH BIGGER PICTURE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT PLAN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, RICHARD, MARY, I, I THINK IF WE GO TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING WITH, WITH OKAY AND NOT ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.

UM, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE ARE GOING TO GET TAKEN TO LUNCH REAL QUICK.

UM, AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS CUT-THROUGH FOR QUITE SOME TIME FOR THAT DISCUSSION TO OCCUR.

I THINK WE'D BE DOING PLANNING COMMISSIONER DISSERVICE IF WE DO NOT HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW, I MEAN, I THINK IT HAS TO HAPPEN NOW.

UM, IF THIS GOES TO, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, FOLKS SEE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THIS IS AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING.

THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM KNOW IT'S A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING, MR. AND MRS. JOHN Q TAXPAYER SEES TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC.

UM, AND UNLESS THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITY HAS A PLAN TO FIX THAT TRAFFIC AND MAKE THAT CONNECTION THROUGH, AND WE'RE ABLE TO EDUCATE THE RESIDENTS ON THAT WITHOUT SAYING, HEY, THIS IS A CONCEPTIONAL, THAT'D BE BETTER DETAILED.

WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, LATER DOWN THE ROAD, THEN I'M GOING TO TELL YOU MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET'S GOING TO COME AND TELL ME, HEY, I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU MULTIPLE TIMES.

THERE'S TRAFFIC UP THERE, YOU DRIVE UP THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ISSUES.

WHY ARE YOU KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT? NO, I DON'T.

I LOOK AT RICHARD, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK WHAT WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

AND THAT'S HOW MUCH BETTER THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN ALONG TAYLOR'S ON OLD TROY MIRROR, THE WAY ON DOWN TO 70, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA ALLEVIATE AND RELIEVE

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TRAFFIC.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

NOW I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT, THAT WE WAIT TO FIND OUT.

WE KNOW THERE'S TRAFFIC FROM, IF, IF THIS DEVELOPMENT, IF, IF, IF THESE FOLKS ARE BROAD, REACH WAS NOT IN FRONT OF US AT ALL WITH THIS PROJECT, WE STILL KNOW WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM THAT NEEDS THE NEEDS SOLVED EVEN INDEPENDENT OF THIS PARTICULAR, OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS.

SO WHAT WOULD, SO TONY, WOULD IT BE WHEN WE THINK OF, OKAY, SO IN TERMS OF A DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED SOME TIME TO, FOR SCOTT AND RUST TOOK TO PUT TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF PRELIMINARY PLAN TO CONNECT MERRILY TO MOUNT HOOD.

I MEAN, MOUNT HOODS, COES TO TAYLORSVILLE.

SO THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GET MERRILY DOWN THERE WITHOUT MOUNT HOOD.

THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO, UM, COULD WE ADD, JUST SO KNOWING NOW, COULD WE ADD THAT DISCUSSION, MAKE THE DECISION TO ADD THAT TYPE OF, TO THE COUNCIL MEETING AS PART OF THIS? WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SAY AS PART OF THIS, BUT SEPARATE, BUT HAVE, BUT HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AND WE COULD PUT ANY DISCUSSION ON, OR IT COULD BE DONE EITHER SEPARATELY OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, OR IS IT A SEPARATE AGENDA? I THINK IT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISCUSSION SO PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT W WHAT SOME OPTIONS ARE THAT, THAT WE HAVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I'M GOING TO ASSUME MR. CORCORAN WAS HERE EARLIER, I'M ASSUMING TO HEAR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

AND HE WAS EITHER REALLY, REALLY HORKED OFF AND LEFT, OR HE WAS SATISFIED WITH WHAT HE HEARD, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON ALL TROY PIKE WITH TAYLORSVILLE AND ALL THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.

AND HE WAS LIKE, OKAY, HE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS AND I'M GONNA LEAVE.

I'M NOT SURE YET.

UM, WE'LL FIND OUT, WE'LL FIND OUT SOON.

I'M SURE HE LIVES NEXT TO THE QUAIL RIDGE PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, HE IS ALSO INTERESTED IN THIS ONE.

WELL, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I, I SAW LOTS OF NODS AND WHAT, AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO, UM, BUT I THINK ALL OF THE SNOW, EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR, WHAT'S FORTHCOMING, IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME ANSWERS FOR, FOR A LARGER IMPROVEMENT.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF PUTTING OUT THE GUN BETWEEN NOW AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S GOT, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY.

CAN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, A PLAN THAT SAYS, HEY, HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE, WHAT IT WOULD REQUIRE.

UM, I MEAN, NOTHING THAT'S IN CONCRETE IN STONE, BUT AT LEAST STARTING THAT DISCUSSION AT MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING.

SO WE CAN START DISCUSSING IT THEN RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL THE FOLLOWING WORK SESSION.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM ANYBODY HERE TO, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, MAYBE JUST REAL QUICK, WOULD THAT ALSO INCLUDE THAT COMMERCIAL TRUCK PIECE? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY DRAINED TO THE WHOLE PEAK SUDDENLY.

I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, WITH DISCUSSING THAT.

LOT OF TIMES THOSE ARE EARLY MORNING, UM, TYPE THINGS THOUGH.

I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL TRUCKS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THAT IS A PORTION OF THIS PROJECT.

I, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ABOUT HOW WOULD TRUCKS ACCESS ACCESS THIS SITE AND TRUCKS WILL BE COMING FROM THE HIGHWAY AND ALSO COMING FROM THE SOUTH.

SO THEY WILL UTILIZE OLD TROY PIKE.

AND THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT SPOT FOR THAT TRAFFIC, UH, FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC TO ENTER THIS SITE, UM, THERE IS, UH, THAT ENTRANCE WILL BE DESIGNED SO THAT THOSE TURNING RADIUS'S WORK THAT THEY CAN GO LEFT TO, RIGHT.

THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING UP OVER CURBS OF THAT JUMPS TO THE NEXT POINT OF UP AT WAYNE TOWN BOULEVARD.

UM, SO THAT AS TRUCKS ARE TURNING ONTO WAYNE TOWN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PIECE TO THIS WE'LL LOOK AT WIDENING THAT CURB RADIUS FOR THOSE TURNS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE TRUCKS THAT ARE TURNING THERE THAT GO UP ON THE CURB AS THEY'RE MAKING THAT TURN.

AND I THINK THAT WAS THE, WHAT WE, THE ISSUE OF WANTING TO AVOID WITH A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THIS ACCESS POINT, UM, AT THAT SIGNAL, UM, IS LIKE I SAID, GOING TO BE DESIGNED CORRECTLY SO THAT, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE.

UM, AND WITH THE TIMING OF THOSE, UM, FOR DELIVERIES DEPENDS ON, UM, A

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SO, UH, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE RUSH HOUR TIME TRAFFIC, BUT THE ROAD IS, UH, DESIGNED FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC.

AND THAT SIGNAL WILL BE DESIGNED FOR A WIDE ENOUGH FOR THOSE TRUCKS TO GET IN AND OUT CORRECTLY.

CAUSE I THINK THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS BE CONSTANTLY WORRYING ABOUT SPENDING MONEY, REPAIRING CURB AT THOSE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCES, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TRUCKS, I MEAN, THERE'S WAY MORE TRUCKS RUN OVER THAT CURB THAN DON'T GO GOING INTO A LANE DOWN OFF A LITTLE TRUCK.

I MEAN, IT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT GOES IN THERE IS PROBABLY, AND THE TWO PHASE APPROACH TO THAT MIRROR IS ONCE THEY GET INTO THAT, FROM THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT TO EITHER DEVELOPMENT, WILL THEY THEN BE ABLE TO MANEUVER WITH INSIDE? BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS IF THEY MAKE THAT RIGHT TURN INTO THE NEW TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE AT MCDONALD'S OR BURGER KING, GOING DOWN TOWARDS WAYNE TOWN, ARE THEY, IS THE ATTORNEY RADIUS GOING TO BE THERE WITHIN THE SITE? SAME THING, VICE VERSA.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AS A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING, AS YOU SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT'S THERE, BUT ONCE, ONCE THEY'RE IN THERE, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE, RIGHT? BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET OUT OF THERE THAT IMMEDIATELY COME TO THAT, FOUR-WAY STOP RIGHT THERE.

AND THERE'S NOT A TRUCK IN THE WORLD THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A LEFT OR RIGHT HAND TURN THERE, RIGHT THERE ENDED UP IN THE PARKING LOT ON THIS PROJECT.

UH, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT, UH, OUR FIRE REVIEWER HAS THE, ALL THE TEMPLATES THAT, UH, SHE WILL BE PUTTING ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE LARGEST FIRETRUCK CAN MAKE THESE TURNS THAT IS SIMILAR TO A SEMI TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT.

SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT DESIGN TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT INTERNAL ACCESS IS DONE CORRECTLY AS WELL.

AND, AND I GUESS THE SAME THING TO THAT, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT AND I'D LIKE US TO BE GOOD, GOOD BUSINESS NEIGHBORS TO OUR FOLKS ON THE OTHER SIDE, TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM THAT IF THE, IF THIS GOES IN HERE, THIS IS WHERE YOUR PRIMARY COMMERCIAL TRUCK TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE.

SO THAT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES THEY'RE FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR LOADS IN AND OUT.

DEFINITELY HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THEM BECAUSE IT BE ABOUT STRIPING AND MAKING SURE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT RIGHT NOW THAT ARE HUGGING THE RIGHT CURB, THAT WHEN TO TURN LEFT, I WAS GOING TO SAY, CAN WE, CAN WE PLEASE RESTRIPE THAT ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE, I KID YOU NOT, I'VE GOTTEN NO LESS THAN PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN PEOPLE FRUSTRATED THAT THAT EXACT THING HAPPENS.

THEY'RE IN LINE THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO TURN RIGHT TO COME OUT OF THERE TO GO SOUTH ON OLD TROY PIKE.

BUT THE PERSON IN FRONT OF THEM IS HUGGING THE RIGHT LANE AND GOT A LEFT TURN SIGNAL ON.

SO, YEAH.

UM, OKAY, SO BACK TO THAT, BACK TO THIS, UM, SO, SO WE'RE GOOD HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.

WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST HAVE SOME, A GOOD GENERAL DISCUSSION OF WHAT THAT MIGHT TAKE TO CONNECT MARILEE TO, TO MOUNT HOOD, UH, CREATE THAT TRAFFIC PATTERN.

AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT COUNCIL THINKS ABOUT THAT.

TO BE HAVING A VESTED INTEREST, NOT ONLY IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT IN MY, IN MY VISION FUTURE AS WELL AND THAT AREA.

EXCUSE ME.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS FOR MONDAY'S MEETING, UM, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS AND TO, UM, LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THAT BROAD REACHES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER THINGS.

WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE AND WE CAN'T MIX THE TWO AND JEOPARDIZE THEIR PROJECT.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE SOLUTION OUT TO MOUNT HOOD DOESN'T AFFECT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PIECE.

I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, BUT, OKAY.

SO, UM, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, SO ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS PARTICULAR, UH, IS THERE ANY CASE ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING FOR PUBLIC HEARING? YES.

MAYBE JUST A QUICK POINT.

UM, SCOTT, WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, UM, IS THIS GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION, UH, BEFORE MONDAY THAT THE, UM, THAT BROAD REACH IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN? UM, BECAUSE I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IDEAS CONCEPTS YOU GUYS COULD COME UP WITH WITH YOUR CONTACTS WITH VINE, BROOKE, AND OUR FOLKS ACROSS THE STREET AND IN WHICH YOU GUYS USED TO OWN.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK THIS, I DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I BELIEVE THIS NEEDS TO BE A JOINT VENTURE ALL THE WAY AROUND A TRUE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO REALLY NOT ONLY BRING A NICE DEVELOPMENT HERE, BUT THE CURB, THE TRAFFIC THAT MANY OF US, ALL OF US UP HERE HAS HEARD ABOUT FOR YEARS.

I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT, RIGHT.

I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GOING

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SO, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY ASK AS WELL.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM SPEAKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MIKE TOLEDO AND I'M WITH BROADRIDGE.

WE HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP OR PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

I JUST NEED YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND IS I DON'T, I, I CONTROL THIS LAND RIGHT NOW VIA CONTRACT, THAT'S IT? I DON'T CONTROL ANY OF THOSE OTHER SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

SO I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN ABILITY OTHER THAN A PHONE NUMBER OR A CONTACT TO HELP AND ADVOCATE FOR IT.

THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN DO.

I JUST, I CAN'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS FOR THOSE BUSINESS AND THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY.

WE'VE BEEN A PARTNERSHIP THROUGH OUT SINCE WE STARTED THIS PROJECT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE.

SO SING NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, FOR MONDAY TONY, YOU HAVE THE, UH, THERE'LL BE TWO READINGS, CORRECT.

GOING TO BE SCHEDULED FOR TWO WEEKS.

THERE WERE TWO READINGS, AND THEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION FOR THE OTHER AUDIT WITH YOU AND SCOTT TO MAKE SURE HOW YOU WANT THE FLOG DISCUSSIONS TO TAKE PLACE THE ORDER OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UP IS ITEM THREE, I, WHICH IS ADELE PARK AND MADE A PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

[ Dial Park/Monita Park Improvements]

SCOTT, THANK YOU.

UM, SO, UH, WE DID GO OUT TO PUBLIC BID FOR THE DIAL IN BONITA PARK IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR THE, UH, SKATE PARK, THE, UH, UH, BMX TRACK, THE TRAILS AT, UH, DIAL, UM, AND OTHER BICYCLE ACCESSORIES, THINGS THAT, UH, UH, AT DIAL.

UM, SO THOSE, UH, BIDS CAME IN, UH, LATER ON THURSDAY, SO THEY DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE PACKETS.

SO I WILL DISCUSS THEM TONIGHT.

ALL THE INFORMATION WILL BE IN THE PACKET FOR MONDAY.

UM, BUT, UH, I'LL I SAID, I WILL DISCUSS EVERYTHING WE DID RECEIVE FOR THE, UM, THE MAIN PORTION OF THE, THE BICYCLE IN THE SKATE PARK ITEMS, ONE BID EACH.

SO THE, THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL GROUP THAT, UH, MR. KING WAS TALKING WITH, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT BID, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OTHER BIDS FOR THE SKATE PARK PIECES.

WHAT WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, BIDS AND QUOTES FOR ARE THE CONCRETE WORK, THE, UH, THE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, THAT THE SKATE PARK DESIGN I'LL START THERE.

THIS DOES INCLUDE ALL OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD, AND THE JOSH HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH USER AND, UH, THAT THE YOUNG LADY WHO CAME IN AND SPOKE THE, THE ORIGINAL, UH, PEOPLE, UM, THE SKATE PSYCH PROFESSIONALS, UM, ABOUT, UH, WHAT TYPES OF, UH, RAMPS AND RAILS AND THINGS SHOULD BE IN THERE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IS INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN.

SO THE, UH, WHAT IS IT, THE MICRO RAMP AND, UH, SO FOR THE BEGINNER AREA, THE EXPERT AREA, THE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UM, THE, UH, CONCRETE PAD WORK, UM, AS I MENTIONED, IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, THIS WAS THE LARGER OF THE PLANS FROM THAT ORIGINAL DISCUSSION.

AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING YOU HAD SEEN BEFORE, BECAUSE IT NOW INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS, UM, NEXT, A LITTLE, LITTLE BLOW UP THAT, UH, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT AS THAT, AND THEN THE, UH, THE, THE BMX AREA THAT, WHICH WOULD BE, WE'LL SAY ON TOP OF THE HILL, UH, NEXT TO THE SKATE PARK AREA.

UM, SO THAT'S, UH, THAT DESIGN IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE WITH THAT, UH, THE ARMORED GRAVEL.

SO, SO THAT IS THE, UH, MANITO PARK, POOR SHIP.

AND THEN DOWN AT, UH, DIAL PARK THERE, YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, THE TRAILS THAT ARE IN THE, WE'LL SAY THE OPEN AREA, UM, AND WITH THE, UM, THE, THE SKILLS TRACK AND THE PUMP TRACK, THEN YOU HAVE, UH, THERE'S THE, THE, THE PUMP TRACK WITH THAT.

AND THEN SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT FEATURES ALONG THOSE TRAILS.

AND THEN THIS ALSO INCLUDES THEN GOING INTO THE MOUNTAIN BIKING PORTION, UM, THAT GOES THROUGH THE WOODS.

SO, UM, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, WE RECEIVED THE BIDS FOR

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I'VE GOT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.

UH, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO READ IT, BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS WILL ALL BE IN THE PACKET, BUT, UH, WE HAD ORIGINAL ESTIMATES THAT MR. KING, UH, RECEIVED, AND THEN THE, UH, THE GROUP FROM AMERICAN RAMP COMPANY, THEY PUT A BID IN ON EVERYTHING.

UH, BUT THERE'S TWO PORTIONS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING.

WE PULL AWAY FROM THEM, UH, BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE BETTER NUMBERS FOR THE PAVING OF THE PARKING LOT AND THE DRIVE, UH, MANITA FOR IMPROVING THAT, THAT IS WAGNER PAVING.

UM, THAT'S AT THAT $30,717, WHERE A IS THROUGH AMERICAN RAMP, THEY HAD AT $99,000.

SO WE WATCHED BETTER PRICE THROUGH WAGNER PAVING.

UM, AND THEN THE CONCRETE PAD ITSELF, UH, DON EARHART'S CONSTRUCTION AT $98,924, WHERE THROUGH AMERICAN RAMP BUILDS 124,500.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND GOING WITH THE LOWER NUMBER THERE.

UM, MR. KING DID MEET THAT GROUP DOWN AT THE SITES AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE SPECS AS WELL.

SO, UH, THERE'S NO WORRY THERE, UM, ABOUT, UH, THE QUALITY OR THE COMPANY ITSELF.

SO, UM, THE FIRST FOR THE MANITA FIELD PARK, WHAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN IS $574,947.

THAT IS ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS THAN THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE.

SO WE'RE HAPPY WITH THOSE NUMBERS, UM, THAT, UH, BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD THERE NOW DOWN AT THE, UM, DIAL PARK, IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, SET UP FOR WE'LL CALL IT A MULTIPLE PHASES.

SO SOME OF THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATES WERE VERY ROUGH.

SO THERE'S ONE THAT BICYCLE SKILLS PARK, THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATES OF 189,000.

IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE 251,000.

SO THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE THERE.

SO THE, UH, DIAL PARK OF 668,500 IS THE TOTAL THERE.

SO THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE OVERALL BETWEEN THE TWO, THE, THE, UM, BID PRICES ARE LOWER FOR THE OVERALL PACKAGE THAN OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE FOR EVERYTHING BY, UH, ABOUT $35,000.

SO THE OVERALL BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, 1 MILLION, $243,447.

SO, UM, WE WILL PUT TOGETHER THE LEGISLATION FOR THESE TO PUT IN THE PACKET, PLUS THE BIDS THEMSELVES.

THE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, ALL THE, UM, THEY'VE GOT WHERE THEY'VE DONE EXAMPLES OF OTHER PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE AS WELL.

SO, AND FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT THAT GOT THEIR TIMING, UM, THE, UH, DIAL PARK IS A LITTLE BIT LONGER TIMEFRAME.

UM, CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A BIGGER PROJECT THAN, UH, THE, UH, MANINA PARK ONE.

BUT, UM, WE HAVE ABOUT A THREE-MONTH PROCESS FOR THE, UM, MANITA AND THEN ABOUT ANOTHER MONTH AFTER THAT FOR THE DIAL.

SO THIS YEAR, UH, BOTH PROJECTS CAN BE COMPLETE.

SO SCOTT, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PHASING, BUT I MEAN, I, WHEN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, JUST FROM THE OVERALL PERSPECTIVE OF GETTING THESE THINGS DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED AND WANTED.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LEGISLATION TO JUST COMPLETE ALL OF THESE TOGETHER ALL AT ONCE.

WE'RE NOT PHASING, UM, THE DOLL ROAD PARK, THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE COMPLETED ALL THIS YEAR, SIGNED, SEALED, DONE.

CORRECT.

I PLANNED ON TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, ONE FOR EACH PARK, BUT YES, THE FULL DIAL PARK, UM, PROJECT CAN SPLIT THAT INTO PHASES.

AWESOME.

NANCY, SCOTT, DID YOU SAY THE MANITA WAS 5 74, 9 47? YES.

SO WE'RE ALLOWED TO SPLIT OUT ALL THE CART PICK WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE AT EACH PHASE OR THE VENDORS IS NO, YOU HAVE TO USE ME FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT TO DO THAT.

SO I PUT THAT IN THE SPECIFICATIONS UPFRONT THAT ANY CONTRACTOR COULD BID ON ANY PORTION OF IT.

IT WAS LISTED OUT AS I BELIEVE ON EACH ONE, I THINK THERE WAS LIKE FOUR ITEMS ON EACH AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT YOU COULD BID ON JUST ONE OF THEM OR ALL OF THEM.

AND ONE, WE WERE HOPING IF SOMEBODY HAD BEEN ON ALL OF THEM, THEY GIVE A DEAL.

UH, FOR NOW WE WERE HOPING FOR MORE BIDS.

UH, MR. KING DID SEND THIS OUT TO OTHER, UH, UM, TRADE, UM, THE PUBLICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT, UM, THIS GROUP, UM, THAT HE HAS WORKED WITH BEFORE AND HAS BEEN HAPPY WITH THE QUALITY OF THEIR WORK.

AND AS I MENTIONED, UH, SOME OF THE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, SITES AND

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CHECKING REFERENCES, UM, IT IS A QUALITY WORK.

THANK YOU, SCOTT, WHAT DO YOU THINK WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE FIRST AT, OR WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE, THE EXTRA MONTH AT DIAL? IS IT GOING TO BE THE TRAILS DOWN INTO THE WOODS OR IS IT WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE THE EXTRA PORTION OR WHAT IS THEIR PLAN FOR KIND OF THE ORDER OF COMPLETION FOR THE DIAL GET TO THAT? OKAY.

SO THE, THE, THE LEAD TIME AT DIAL, UM, IS THE MANUFACTURING OF THE, UH, BICYCLE PLAYGROUND AND BIKE SKILLS FEATURES.

THAT'S THE, UH, THE INITIAL LEAD TIME, UM, BEFORE THEY GET ONTO THE SITE ONTO THE SITES.

UM, THERE'S MORE AREA TO CUT IN, UH, FOR THOSE TRAILS.

UM, THEY'LL DO ALL THE, UH, SITE PREPARATION, MASQUERADING, FINE GRADING AND BERMING THAN THE ASPHALT PUMP, TRACK, THE BIKE SKILLS, UH, FEATURE.

SO, UM, ALL OF THIS, UH, IT'S 80 DAYS IS THE PLANNING AND MANUFACTURING, AND THEN 70 DAYS CONSTRUCTION TIME, WHEREAS MORE KIND OF LEAD, LIKE YOU SAID, LEAD TIME TO GET STARTED FEE THE BIKE SKILLS FEATURES AND BICYCLE PLAYGROUND ITEMS ARE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE SKATE PARK FEATURES.

THE SKATE PARK FEATURES.

UH, THERE WE'LL SAY THEY'RE MORE IN-HOUSE TYPE ITEMS THAN SOME OF THE SPECIALIZED BIKE FEATURES.

SO AWESOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

SO A TOTAL OF 150 DAYS, WELL, I THINK THEY'LL BE WORKING CONCURRENTLY.

WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LEGISLATION WITH THREE DIFFERENT BITTERS, TWO PARKS, NOT SURE FULLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

UM, BUT I, I AGREE WITH SCOTT, IT'S GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF SEPARATE LEGISLATION.

IT MIGHT BE TWO, IT MIGHT BE THREE, BUT I KNOW THE CONCEPT IS THIS THE SAME SHOULD BE DONE FOR THE STREET PROGRAM IS ONE FUCK THAT LET'S PULL THE LEGISLATION THAT HAD THE THREE, OR YOU MIGHT SEE MORE ON THE AGENDA THAN, OKAY.

SO PROBABLY SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER COMPLETION FOR BOTH RICHARD, THANK YOU.

UM, JUST OF SEE THE ESTIMATES HERE, A 1.2, DO YOU KNOW WITH CONTINGENCY, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHAT ARE NOT TO EXCEED IS GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND ONE 24 MILLION.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

EXCELLENT.

I THOUGHT THAT NEVER CAME INTO MIND.

AND NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM THREE, J WHICH IS THE BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.

MA'AM AND THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

OKAY, GREAT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT ON THERE.

[ Board and Commission Appointments * Parks and Recreation Board]

MR. RON.

YES, I HAVE TWO THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

UH, WE DID HAVE ONE APPLICANT FOR A CURRENT VACANCY, UM, MR. MATTHEW TEAGUE.

UM, SO THE REQUEST AFTER BEING INTERVIEWED BY THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL IS THE APPOINTMENT OF MR. T TO A TERM ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD ENDING MARCH 31ST, 2023.

UH, THE BACKGROUND CHECK IS CURRENTLY IN PROCESS WITH HUMAN RESOURCES.

AND SO, UH, BARRING ANYTHING WITH THAT BACKGROUND CHECK, UH, THE REQUEST WOULD BE TO PLACE A MOTION FOR THIS APPOINTMENT ON THE AGENDA FOR MONEY.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

ART CERTIFICATION COMMITTEE.

AND NEXT

[ * Arts and Beautification Commission]

SO THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION.

UM, UH, WE START OUT WITH THREE APPLICANTS, UH, ONE WITHDREW, ONE DIDN'T LIVE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.

AND, UH, SO WE WERE DOWN TO ONE AT THAT POINT.

UH, TINA DAVIS, UH, TINA DANIEL, UM, THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL RECOMMENDS THE APPOINTMENT FOR TERMINATING JUNE 30TH, 2022.

AND AGAIN, THE BACKGROUND CHECK IS IN PROCESS.

AND SO WE WOULD ASK, UH, PENDING THE BACKGROUND CHECK RESULTS, UH, TO PLACE THIS MOTION ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY'S APPROVALS.

ANY OBJECTIONS, SEEING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE THOSE ON THERE.