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[ AGENDA BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road June 2, 2021 6:30 P.M.]
I SHOULD CALL THE MEETING OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS TO ORDER MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I MOVE THAT AGENDA FOR JUNE 2ND.
THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING IS APPROVED AT THIS TIME.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR YOU TO STAND SO I CAN SWEAR YOU IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO STAND AT YOUR DOING RAISED THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.
DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD.
MAYBE SEE TO ANYONE THAT MAY WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
AFTER THE CASE REVIEW AND STAFF REVPRO REPORT, I NEED YOU TO PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM, SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AFTER MR. MELORE SPEAKS.
UH, BEING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS, WE SHALL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
THIS IS BZA CASE 21 DASH OH SEVEN.
THE APPLICANT PAUL FOLTZ IS REQUESTING A VARIANT FROM SECTION 1191 DOT OH ONE.
ASSESSORY BUILDING LOCATION FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN A SECONDARY FRONT YARD PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 68 OH TWO LONGFORD ROAD, MR. MAILLARD.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT ON A WET EVENING.
UM, AS STATED THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR THE LOCATION OF AN ACCESSORY BUILDING.
THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AS ARE ALL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UH, SECTION 1190, ONE OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS CODE REQUIRES LOCATION OF AN ACCESSORY BUILDING AND A REAR YARD, NOT WITHIN FIVE FEET OF A PROPERTY LINE OR ANY OTHER BUILDING.
THEREFORE IT HAS TWO FRONTAGES OR FRONT YARDS.
THIS CONFIGURATION DIMINISHES THE USABLE BACKYARD SIGNIFICANTLY.
SINCE THE BACKYARD ENDS AT THE HOUSE FOUNDATION ALONG HEMINGWAY, THE APPLICANT PLANS TO ENCLOSE MORE OF THE YARD WITH A NEW PRIVACY FENCE AND WISHES TO LOCATE THE STORAGE BUILDING AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE HOUSE, THEREFORE ENCROACHING INTO THE SECOND YARD.
THE SECOND FRONT YARD, THE PROPOSED LOCATION WOULD BE SET BACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY EIGHT FEET.
THE APPLICANT THEREFORE REQUIRES A LOCATION VARIANCE FROM SECTION 1190 1.01.
CITY STAFF HAS NO ISSUE WITH THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT MUST APPLY FOR HIS OWN NEW CERTIFICATE.
IF THE BOARD GRANTS THIS VARIANCE AT THE STAFF ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY IS AS FOLLOWS A LOT OF THE PROXIMITY, A QUARTER ACRE, THERE IS A 10 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT ON HEMINGWAY ALONG THE SIDEWALK THAT EASEMENT IS ONTO THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE WOULD ENCROACH INTO THIS EASEMENT BY TWO FEET, ACCORDING TO THE SUBMITTED DRAWING.
HOWEVER, THE CITY DOES NOT ENFORCE YOU TILL THE EASEMENT RESTRICTIONS, AND THERE ARE NO CITY UTILITIES WITHIN THE EASEMENT ENCROACHMENT INTO A UTILITY EASEMENT IS ALWAYS AT THE PROPERTY OWNERS RISK.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY WORK TO BE DONE IN THAT EASEMENT AND A STRUCTURES IN THE WAY THAT STRUCTURE GETS MOVED OUT OF THE WAY BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY.
AND THERE'S NO OBLIGATION FOR IT TO BE PUT BACK BY THE UTILITY COMPANY DOING THE WORK.
UH, IT IS A RESIDENTIAL TYPE STRUCTURE TO BE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE HOUSE.
UH, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DID NOT HAVE COMMENTS ON THIS VARIANCE REQUEST.
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I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.UM, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE THERE.
UM, I KNOW THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED IN SOME DRAWINGS WERE THE MULTIPLAYER DECK, THE GATE IN THE PROPOSED NEW SHED, BUT THERE'S NO MEASUREMENTS WHAT THE DISTANCE IS BETWEEN THAT GATE AND THAT NEW SHED.
WE KNOW THAT NO, SINCE WE DON'T ISSUE PERMITS OR DO INSPECTIONS ON THE FENCING, WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
WELL, NO, NOR WOULD WE ASK FOR, WITH THE, WITH THE INSTALLATION OF ANY EXCESS RESTRUCTURE, BUT, UM, THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION YOU COULD POSE TO THE APPLICANT.
WOULD YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
YOU'RE DOING IT MORE QUESTION FOR ME.
SO IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL IT FOR ME.
PAUL FOLTZ, P A U L F U L T Z.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT YOUR DIAGRAM, YOUR DRAWING THAT YOU PUT ON HERE.
I KNOW WE HAVE COUPLE OF VARIANCES.
WE HAVE TO MEET A ONE INSPIRED FOOT FROM THE, YOUR EXISTING STRUCTURE, WHICH IS YOUR HOUSE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MEASUREMENT IS BETWEEN THAT? THANK KATE PART AND A PROPOSED NEW SHIT FROM, UH, FROM THE HOUSE.
I'M THIS, YOU KNOW, I WENT OUT THERE, I STOPPED AND LOOKED AT IT.
I THINK IT SEEMED LIKE THE REAR DECK BEING THAT BIG.
ARE YOU PLANNING ON CHANGING THE REAR DECK ALSO? CAUSE EVEN THE AERIAL PHOTOS, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT THERE, YOUR REAR DECK DOES NOT GO FAST.
THE HOUSE PROPOSED I'VE REFURBISHED THAT DECK AND IT GOES, IT GOES, UH, I THINK FIVE OR SIX FEET PAST THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE.
AND IF I MAY, THOSE AERIAL PHOTOS, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHEN THEY WERE FLOWN.
THE LAST TIME THE SATELLITE WENT ACROSS, I DON'T CONTROL THE SATELLITE, UNFORTUNATELY.
SO THIS COULD BE A COUPLE OF THREE OR FOUR YEARS OLD.
POSSIBLY THE AERIAL PHOTO WE HAVE.
IF YOU COULD PUT IT BACK UP, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO KIND OF GO, RIGHT? SURE.
HONESTLY THIS IS PROBABLY 40 YEARS OLD.
WE RESTRUCTURED THE DEBT AREA, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS UH, IN 2014.
HERE'S THE NEW GATE IS COMING ACTUALLY ALL OF THEM TO GIVE US ACCESS INTO THE STAIRS SO THAT IT COMES UP RIGHT AROUND SIX FEET.
I DID LOOK AT IT ON HEMINGWAY.
I DID SEE WHERE YOUR EXISTING GATE, WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO RENEW.
WHAT WASN'T GETTING THE SHUT UP.
THEN I'M NOT GOING TO FIX WHATEVER ISSUES ARE EXISTING THERE THAT THIS WHOLE FINS WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CORNER.
PROBABLY YOUR PREPAREDNESS NEW SHED THAT YOUR DOORS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE INSIDE THE FENCE AREA.
YOU KNOW WHAT A NEW SHED YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BROCHURE.
IF YOU WANT IT, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE, HERE, IT WILL HAVE REGULAR WHO HAVE NOT SHOWN IN THE PICTURE.
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I GUESS JUST ONE.IS THERE ANY OTHER PLACE YOU CAN PUT THAT SHED AND STUFF I'LL CALL AN EASEMENT? WELL, THE ISSUE IS THIS, OF COURSE THERE ARE THE, THERE'S A LARGE EASEMENT GOING BACK ACROSS FOR THE GAS LINE.
SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE, BUT IT THERE, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO EXTEND OR ARE OUT WHEN THE LITTLE SHED INCREASES.
THIS IS THE PLACE THAT GETS THE MOST LIGHT.
EVERYTHING ELSE STARTS GETTING BLOCKED HERE THIS WAY.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF MY TABLET.
ONCE YOU GET AROUND THERE FOR THAT SIDE IT'S CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I HAVE ENOUGH QUESTIONS, BUT SO FOLKS TODAY, MY MAIN CONCERN WAS MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO BE FINISHED IN TEARING DOWN THE OLD FENCE ALONG ALONG HEMINGWAY.
BUT YOU ACTUALLY DON'T PUT NEW FENCE AROUND YOUR FENCE.
THE, THE, THE DECK WILL CREATE THE CORNER FOR THE FENCING.
AND THEN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, BECAUSE IT'LL BE RIGHT UP CLOSE TO THE DECK, THERE IT'LL MOVE.
IT'LL BE THE GATE SECTION AND WHATEVER FENCES ON THE DECK TO REALLY MAKE THAT, FINISH THAT OFF.
AND THEN OF COURSE, NEW FENCING AND WE'RE WANTING TO PUT A, A VERY NICE ROLLING GATE TO GO ACROSS THERE TO MAKE IT EASIER TO ACCESS FOR GETTING MY CAMPER IN AND OUT THERE.
AND SO, UM, YEAH, MY PLAN IS ONCE WE HAVE THIS IN THAT I CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTRACT BECAUSE I'LL NEED TO GET FENCING UP AS SOON AS I POSSIBLY CAN, UM, BECAUSE OF THE SWIMMING POOL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN.
IT'S GOTTA BE A VERY STURDY PROFESSIONAL GATE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT I'M WANTING TO DO THERE.
CAUSE I SAW A NEW POLL OVER THE FACE.
I WAS LOOKING OVER THE FENCE AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WAS, WHERE YOU ACTUALLY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING THE SHED BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOUR PURGATORY WAS RIGHT THERE BY THE EDGE OF THE FENCE LINE.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING, CAUSE I WAS LIKE, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT A FIT.
YOU ASKED HIM TO PUT A SHED OUTSIDE OF THAT FITS.
THAT'S WHY I WENT OVER THERE TO MAKE SURE IT JUST, WASN'T GONNA BE A SHED SITTING ON THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT WOULDN'T LOOK VERY GOOD, NOT PROFESSIONAL, BUT YOU ACTUALLY, THE WAY YOU'RE DOING IT, YOU ACTUALLY ASK HIM FOR THE VARIOUS.
BUT THEN AFTER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FISH THE WHOLE YARD.
ARE THERE'S SOME OLD FENCING THAT'S GOTTA BE REFURBISHED THERE.
THAT THAT'S MY FENCING THAT FACES THE LONGFORD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THE GATES SAGGING.
UM, I'VE GOT TO GET THAT, UM, UP TO SPEED.
SO, SO THAT OUR OVERALL OUTWARD LOOK IS, IS MUCH BETTER LANDSCAPING WISE.
AND, AND FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE BACKYARD NEIGHBOR BEHIND YOU, UH, IT SEEMED LIKE Y'ALL BEEN KNOWING EACH OTHER FOR QUITE SOME TIME, YOUR NEIGHBOR BIT HIGHER WHERE THE RV IS RIGHT BESIDE THE FITZ.
CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE VERSUS THE BACK OF YOURS, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, NO CONCERNS, I DIDN'T GET NO LETTERS.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I HAD YOUR VISION.
LIKE HE WAS SAYING, WE WERE LOOKING AT MEASUREMENTS AND WE AT THAT TIME, MR. SCOTT AND I, WE COULDN'T REALLY VISUALIZE IT.
AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO CLARIFY IT.
I, I, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A GOOD VISION FOR IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE A NICE, FINISHED LOOK TO EVERYTHING.
EVEN THE, THE SHED THERE, THERE'S A SLIGHT INCLINE.
UM, I'M HOPING TO HAVE IT ON A, UH, UH, A GOOD FOUNDATION, NOT JUST A SKID FOUNDATION AND UM, AND THEN FINISH OFF THE SKIRTING OF THAT, WHERE IT'S UNLEVEL SO THAT IT GIVES IT A NICE CLOSED IN APPEARANCE WITH THE FENCE ALTOGETHER AND, UH, SOMETHING THE CITY CAN BE PROUD OF THAT WAY, SIR.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE PUTTING A PRIVACY FENCE OUTSIDE YOUR WHOLE STRUCTURE RIGHT THERE.
WE'LL GO FROM THE CORNER OF THE SHED OVER TO DERIVE NEW CAVES SLICE FENCE THERE AT THE CORNER OF THE DECK AND THEN THIS GATE OVER HERE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE EXISTING WHILE THE PROPOSED NEW SHED IS HALF A BED.
IT'S GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF YOUR NEW FIXTURE.
NO, THE CORNER OF IT WILL BE WE'LL SHOW
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PRIVACY FENCE GO PRETTY VITAL PRIVACY PS.SO THAT MAKES US ALL LOOK UNIFORM.
AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, SEE THE FENCE THAT IT BLENDS RIGHT INTO THE SHED SKIRTING OF THE SHIT OUT OF THE WHOLE CONTOUR.
UM, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. CHAIR.
I JUST, I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE MEASUREMENTS OF A LITTLE BIT BETTER DIAGRAM AND DRAWING WHILE META APPROVED THIS FOR RIGHT NOW.
UM, MS. NOVI, IF HE MAKING W WHAT ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? FIRST OF ALL, WE GOT A MOTION.
WE ASKED FOR A MOTION ON THE, ON.
SO WHAT THE MOTION IS ONLY MADE.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO APPROVE WHAT THAT HE'S STILL GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION NOT TO APPROVE.
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, WE CAN ASK TO TABLE TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, WHICH WAY DO YOU WANT? YEAH, WELL, I THINK WE, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE SHOULD DO THAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD TABLE IT AND NOT DISAPPROVE IT.
I, UNTIL WE GET TO, LIKE YOU SAY, UNTIL WE GET WHERE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE MEASUREMENTS AND, AND BASED ON THAT'S ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO SO WE CAN TABLE IT UNTIL THEY GET JULY.
MAY I, MAY I SAY SOMETHING? I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO COME BY AND SEE ME AND I CAN, IF YOU NEED ME TO WALK THROUGH, MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP MR. FAULTS.
I DID DRIVE BY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE IN YOUR BACKYARD, OF COURSE, WHAT I'M GOING OFF OF IS EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY SHEDS OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE.
I THINK PROBABLY THAT IS PROBABLY MORE MY CONCERN MORE THAN ANYTHING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BRICK HUBER HOME AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FENCE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHED.
THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FENCE, THE FENCE.
WELL, IT IS PART OF THE FENCE.
THE SHED WALLS ARE PART OF THE FENCE.
I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN BUILD A FENCE AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, MOVE IT A FOOT EITHER DIRECTION.
AND THAT'S, I'M GOING OFF IS THAT DIAGRAM RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS NOT, YOU CAN SEE THEM FENCE BUTTON RIGHT INTO MATTER OF FACT, LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT EVEN HAVE A FOOT WHERE THE ART PROGRAM THAT I WAS TRYING TO USE THE TRACK I'M IN.
SEE, THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO PROVE RIGHT THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW THAT APPROVAL IS IF THE FENCE WAS ON THE OUTSIDE, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
IT'S JUST A PROVEN THAT DRAWING RIGHT THERE.
SO I DIDN'T HAVE THE SKILL TO DO A 3D RENDERING, SO, OKAY.
SO MADAM SECRETARY, SO I NEED TO, SO WE NEED TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE FENCE TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE, SO THE SHED IS ENCLOSED.
AND THEY'RE ASKING YOU IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
I CAN CANVAS SHED IN THE FENCE.
SO WE CAN PUT THAT AS PART OF THE DECISION RECORD.
THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO POSTPONE POSTPONE THAT PRICE GOES UP.
SO I, I, I NEED TO MR. WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO REQUIRE IS THAT THE SHED BE ENCLOSED BY THE FENCE RATHER THAN ESSENTIALLY PART OF THE FENCE.
IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? YES.
BECAUSE, AND UNDERSTANDING THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE FOR A SEPARATION BETWEEN A STRUCTURE AND A FENCE, ONLY A STRUCTURE IN OUR PROPERTY LINE.
DO YOU HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF A CERTAIN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT SHED.
IF YOUR FENCE IS SIX INCHES OFF THAT SHED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT.
YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO GET BACK THERE.
AND TYPICALLY I RECOMMEND AT LEAST TWO FEET OF, OF ROOM TO MAINTAIN IT.
SINCE WE CAN'T ENFORCE THE PROPERTY LINE FIVE FOOT SETBACK, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO STIPULATE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO STIPULATE TO A CHANGE IN THE LAYOUT, YOU MAY WANT TO STIPULATE HOW MANY FEET OR HOW MANY
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INCHES DO YOU WANT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE SHED AND THE FENCE? BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE A REQUIREMENT THERE, THE LAY RECOMMENDATION.SO PERHAPS THERE'S ROOM FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT POINT.
NOW I THINK THE TWO FEET, WELL SAYING IT'S SIX FEET NOW OFF THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE TO THE SHIT, RIGHT BACK, PROBABLY GO BACK FIVE FEET FOR FIVE FEET, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE ZONING.
AND THEN YOU'D HAVE ANOTHER FOOT EVEN MORE SO ON THE FENCE GOING OUTSIDE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND ALSO BEAR IN MIND, I CAN'T REQUIRE WHERE OFFENSES INSTALLED.
AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T CROSS THE SIDEWALKS.
SO THE REASON I WAS SAYING THAT ON CATEGORY OF YOUR NEIGHBOR ON HEMMING, HEMINGWAY, HEMINGWAY, THIS FENCE IS ABOUT WHOLE WAY ON THE SIDEWALK ITSELF.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAYING, I THINK WE HAVE ROOM TO MOVE THE FENCE CLOSER TO THE SIDEWALK.
STILL GIVE YOU THE TWO FOOT AROUND THE SHED.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS BACKING MY CAMPER INTO THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE I KNOW I CAN'T BACK IT UP GOING TOWARDS THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY BECAUSE THEIR FENCE IS JUST A FEW FEET OFF OF THAT LINE.
AND IT TAKES ALL, I'VE GOT TO GET IT IN THERE.
SO I WAS TRYING TO GIVE MYSELF AS MUCH SPACE AS POSSIBLE IN BOTH THE OPENING FOR THE, FOR THE DRIVEWAY, FOR THE FENCE AND THE DRIVEWAY, THE GATE.
AND ALSO AS FAR UP I CAN BRING, I CAN COME OUT A COUPLE OF FEET, BUT THAT PUTS ME FURTHER INTO THE EASEMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S AGAIN, ALL OVER THE WORLD.
FENCES ARE IN EASEMENTS, USUALLY IN THE BACKYARDS, BUT ALSO IN THE, IN THE, IN THE SIDE YARD.
SO I, THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER NOR INTEREST IN PLACING OUT OF THE FENCE IS STRICTLY OUTSIDE OF MY PURVIEW.
UM, SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO DIMINISH THE ENCROACHMENT INTO THE EASEMENT, WHICH I THINK IS A POINT HERE, CORRECT.
THEN, UM, WHERE THE FENCE IS PUT IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE TO ZONING OTHER THAN THE BOARD NEEDS TO STIPULATE.
IF THEY HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE SHED AND THE FENCE FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES, WHICH I CAN NOT REQUIRE OR MISS OF, UM, MR. FOLKS, UM, WHAT ABOUT A SMALLER SHIT WOULD THAT, SO I'M TRYING TO MAXIMIZE MY SPACE THERE.
UH, THE ORIGINAL SHED WAS 10 BY 20, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED.
UM, THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE OF MY AGE, WE HAVE A LOT MORE EQUIPMENT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.
I HAVE A, I HAVE A RIDING LAWNMOWER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A HUGE YARD BECAUSE MY KNEES ARE BAD.
I HAVE A SNOWBLOWER, I HAVE A GENERATOR, I HAVE A ROTOTILLER, LARGE, A SMALL ROTOTILLER.
AND SO, UH, RIGHT NOW THAT STUFF PACKS IN THE GARAGE, UM, MY WIFE DOESN'T ALWAYS FEEL SAFE GETTING OUT IN THE DRIVEWAY, ESPECIALLY IN INCLEMENT WEATHER.
AND SO I'M TRYING TO CLEAR OUT A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT SITS IN THAT GARAGE OF EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING RIGHT NOW THAT THE EXISTING SHED HOLDS MAYBE ONE OR TWO ITEMS, BUT, UM, IT'S HARD TO GET IN AND OUT OF RIGHT NOW, THE SH THE SHEDS AND DISTRICT, I MEAN, IT'S NEEDING TO BE TORN DOWN.
UM, IT DOES ITS JOB AT SHELTERS, EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S, IT'S OLD LOOKING AND IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT DOWN.
SO THE MAIN REASON FOR THE SIZE OF THE SHED IS TO GIVE US ROOM FOR STORIES.
THERE'S NOT MUCH STORAGE IN THAT THE ONLY STORAGE WE'VE GOT IS OVER THE GARAGE.
AND WE'RE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE WATCHED, AND THAT'S JUST CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS UP THERE.
AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABILITY OF THAT CEILING IN THE GARAGE.
YOU'D BE ABLE TO HOLD THE WEIGHT MUCH LONGER.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING WOULD BE, COULD I GO WITH ANOTHER CONFIGURATION, UM, AND, OR, OR EVEN SET IT, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT WAY, 12 BY 60, IT GOES FROM 12 OR 16 TO 12 BY 20.
UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW OTHER THAN TALKING TO THE MANUFACTURER AND SEEING WHAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE IN THAT AREA.
CAUSE YOUR WIDTH IS YOUR 16 IS FROM EAST TO WEST.
SO IF YOU CHANGE THAT CONFIGURATION AND MAKE YOUR 12 FOOT FROM YOUR HOUSE TO AFTER THESE, YOU KNOW, SHIFTED THIS WAY.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA THAT THE SHED IS NOT CONF, THAT, THAT I HAVE IS NOT CONFIGURED FOR THAT.
IT HAS A LOSS AT THE END, UH, FOR STORAGE
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AND UP IN THE CEILING.SO I DON'T KNOW HOW CONDUCIVE THAT WOULD BE.
I MEAN, THE DESIGN OF THIS IS THE DOUBLE DOORS WITH THE TWO WINDOWS ON THE SIDES OF IT.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT IMPACTS THE DESIGN, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO GO ANOTHER ROUTE BECAUSE YOUR DOORS WOULD BE TORTURE RIGHT.
YOU TURN IT SO THAT THE DOORS ARE INWARD.
I WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO GET THE TRACTOR IN.
PROBABLY THERE'D BE TWO OR THREE FEET THERE.
SO, AND, AND SO WE'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME THING.
IT'S STILL OUT THERE WHERE IT IS.
JEREMY, I'M SAYING, IF WE DO A FIVE FOOT FROM THE STRUCTURE OF THE HOUSE, TO THE SHED, WHICH BRINGS IT BACK UP TO THE WEST SIDE ONE FOOT, WHICH BRINGS IT OFF THE EASEMENT AND THEN YOU'D HAVE MORE SPACE AROUND THE FENCE.
WOULD THAT BE FEASIBLE INSTEAD OF, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW, HOW FAR THAT DECK IS.
YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE FIVE, IT COULD BE SIX FEET.
I'M THINKING IT'S MORE SIX FEET BEYOND, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY NOT BE DOABLE MOVING AT A FOOT CLOSER, OTHER THAN TEARING OUT THE CORNER OF THE DECK THERE.
SO SAME THING MISSING THE LARD IS JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU MORE SPACE AROUND YOUR SHED, SHRUB DEEP AND EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I RE ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED THIS, I THOUGHT, WELL, ABOUT SIX FEET UP WOULD PROBABLY GIVE ME ENOUGH ROOM TO DO A COUPLE FEET AROUND THE SHED.
UM, PERHAPS EVEN, UH, UH, A DECK WALKWAY TO, TO, TO MAKE.
SO DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STUFF GROWING BACK.
NO, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET A MOWER BACK THERE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PART OF WHERE ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED THE, UH, THIS DESIGN, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THINGS, IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING IN TWO FEET, THE OTHER WAY TO GET A FENCE AROUND IT THAT MIGHT ENCROACH IN THE, IN THE ROLLING GATE.
I THINK I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 TO 20 FEET THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT GATE TO GIVE, GIVE IT THE SUPPORT IT NEEDS, HOW MUCH THAT NEEDS TO BE UNTIL I HAVE A PROFESSIONAL LOOK AT IT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND YOU DON'T KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IS THAT WE TABLE THIS, UM, SISTER OTHER SKY, MR. SCOTT HAS CONCERNS ABOUT IT AND WHAT CONFIGURATIONS, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING AND THEN COME BACK.
AS FAR AS TO COLD GO, OR HE HAS COME BACK AND ASK ONE ANOTHER PARENTS.
I DO FEEL LIKE IF I COULD HAVE, COULD HAVE OFFERED IT IN A 3D RENDERING, I DO THINK THAT THE WALLS OF THE SHED WOULD MAKE A NICE APPEARANCE FOLLOWING THE FLOW OF THE FENCE LINE FROM BOTH SIDES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE THE UNDERNEATH PORTION WHERE YOU CAN SEE UNDER THE EDGE OF THE SHED, UH, COVERED WITH, UM, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE SOLID WOODS, HAVE A GOOD WELL-BUILT SHED THERE THAT MOVING THAT JUST IN THE FLOW OF THE FENCE LINE FOR MYSELF.
AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT HERE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WOULD MAKE A VERY NICE APPEARANCE IN THE, IN THE OVERALL PRESENTATION OF THAT CORNER AND NOT LOOK LIKE SOMETHING STICKING OUT THERE.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR THERAPY IS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FENCE THAT'S GOING AROUND THE WHOLE SHED, OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SHED AS PART OF THE FENCE LINE.
I THINK WE, UH, WE WILL, UH, THERE'S ENOUGH.
WE WILL TABLE THIS, UM, MR. FALLS, UM, UNTIL JULY, GIVE US A CHANCE TO EVEN MEET, NOT MEET YOU OUT THERE.
AND LIKE YOU SAY, HE'LL SHOW US AROUND BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AND THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN.
AND THEN MS. NEWBIE IS STATING THE RIGHT THING, THAT IT WAS OUR CONCERN TO APPROVE, AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE DON'T GO RIGHT.
THEN WE GOTTA COME BACK WITH ANOTHER BARRON'S.
WHEREAS DO YOU LIVES RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER? UM, WITH SET UP MADAM SECRETARY, UM, TO TABLE THIS UNTIL JULY 2ND, I'M GONNA GET THROUGH IT IN MOTION.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE.
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MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL OUR NEXT BZA MEETING MS. NEWBIE AS SECOND.AND THAT NEXT, UM, LIEN WOULD BE JULY 7TH.
AND THEN THEY USED TO BE IN THE MINUTES THAT WE HAVE TABLE IT TO DENY SEVEN, SEVEN, SEVEN LOST SECOND FOR TABLING, MR. DAVIDSON.
GENTLEMEN, WHERE ANYBODY WANTS TO GIVE ME A CALL.
I CAN LEAVE MY CELL PHONE WITH YOU.
I WILL BE GONE FOR 10 DAYS IN JUNE FOR VACATION, SO, OKAY.
WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO COORDINATE IF, IF YOU WANT ME TO BE THERE, SO, OH YES.
WE'LL MAKE SURE IT WAS FROM THE LORD.
WELL, WE WILL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT TIMEFRAME AND WE WILL GET A CLEAR VIEW, UM, MEASUREMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WASN'T THERE, THAT'S CONCERNED.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO TABLE IT AND THEN THAT MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE ON THIS.
ARE YOU GOING, GOING AWAY RIGHT AWAY OR ARE YOU GOING LATER IN JUNE? MR. FOLTS PHONE NUMBER IS ON THE APPLICATION FOR THE BEARINGS AND ALL THEIR FACTS.
UM, IS IT MY MOBILE PHONE? FIVE SEVEN TWO, YES.
JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE, UM, YOU CAN'T GET AWAY FROM US.
I WILL BE GONE FROM SIX 20 TO MAYBE SIX 30.
SO PERHAPS WE CAN COORDINATE SOMETHING BEFORE SIX 20.
I'LL, I'LL DO MY BEST TO COORDINATE MY SCHEDULE.
THE SCHEDULE FRIDAY, BECAUSE I THINK ALL THAT TERRIBLE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO TOGETHER, LOOK AT THIS.
THEN THE ENTIRE BOARD NEEDS TO GO AND LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE TIME WE'LL HERE, MAYBE IN JULY AT THE NEXT MEETING AND THE ONES THAT'S NOT HERE GOING TO BE CONFUSED.
AND WE GO, WE DON'T WANT TO PROLONG THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS TIME.
SO IF THIS FRIDAY OR NEXT FRIDAY, IF WE ALL CAN GET TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY AND GO OVER THERE AND CHECK.
SO ALL OUR MINDS WILL BE CLEAR.
I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
I THINK ALL, I AGREE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, IF THEY ARE ALL SHOW UP AT THE NEXT MEETING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF, THEY'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU EVERYTHING.
WE WANT TO RESOLVE THIS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO FRIDAY, EITHER FRIDAY FOR ME, FRIDAY IS GOOD FOR ME AFTER NINE 10.
I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THIS, SIR.
I SEE YOU LOOKING AT ME, BUT I'M NOT INVOLVED THAT THIS IS OKAY.
WHAT TIME OF MORNING? YOU TALK TO THAT, MAN.
I'M A SLOW MOVER IN THE MORNING.
WITH THE TWO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
YES, THERE'S A FOURTH, BUT IF YOU'LL LEAVE ME YOURSELF, YOU CAN DO THAT AFTER.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS MAN? THERE IS NONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES WITHOUT OBJECTION.
THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 5TH, 2021 VCA MEETING ARE APPROVED UPCOMING MEETINGS.
AS WE JUST STATED WILL BE JULY THE SEVENTH, 2021 AND WEDNESDAY, AUGUST THE FOURTH, 2021.
AND IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE SHALL ADJOURN.
MR. DOOBIE, YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
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NO.I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, AS A GERMAN VERSION APPROVED.