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I'LL USE THE GAMBLE.

[ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road May 6, 2021 7:00 P.M. ]

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR MEETING THIS EVENING.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

IT IS THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION MEETING FOR TODAY, MAY 6TH AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

UM, HAS EVERYONE HAD AN, HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE AGENDA? ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHTY.

SO THE MEETING HAS BEEN CALLED TO ORDER.

KATIE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? DR.

AKINS, MS. HONAKER HERE, MS. NEWBIE PRESENT MS. PURVIS PRESENT.

MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON, PRESENT MR. STEVENS.

MS. STEVENS, MS. SOMEONE PRESENT.

OKAY.

WE GOOD? OKAY.

SO ERIC STEVENS, UM, DOES HAVE AN EXCUSE, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S RECORDED IN THE MINUTES THAT HE IS EXCUSED FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING.

UM, HAS EVERYONE RECEIVED A COPY OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? YES.

WHEN HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES? YES.

MADAM CHAIR MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

OKAY.

I SECOND.

OKAY.

IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE MEETING, THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 1ST MEETING.

AND SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, UM, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS AND WE WILL START WITH REF FORM.

ERIC IS NOT HERE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, STEFAN? UM, SO FOR THE REFORM COMMITTEE, WE LAST MET ON MONDAY, APRIL THE 19TH, UH, FROM SIX TO 9:22 PM.

UH, DURING THE, THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THE NAACP EIGHT POINT PLAN, THE HUBER HEIGHTS, POLICE DEPARTMENTS, MENTAL HEALTH POLICY, AND OHIO HIO SENATE AND HOUSE BILLS.

UH, WE ALSO REVISITED DISCUSSIONS THAT TOOK PLACE ON MARCH 31ST WITH CHIEF LECHNER IN THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, SKULL FELLOW KOSKI.

UM, REGARDING THE EIGHT POINT PLAN, THE COMMUNITY JUST CONTINUES TO HAVE FOCUSED DISCUSSION ON INCREASED ACCOUNTABILITIES FOR POLICE OFFICERS, UH, THROUGH THE COMPLAINTS.

UH, THIS AREA HAS BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS AS THERE HAVE BEEN LIMITATIONS IMPOSED BY THE CBAS AND CITIZENS, PRIVACY, AS MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

HOWEVER, THE COMMITTEE AGREED THAT THERE SHOULD BE A SOLUTION, UH, WITH THAT SAID, UH, WE REACHED OUT WELL, THE HUMAN'S RELATION COUNCIL FROM THE CITY OF DAYTON HAS A CITIZENS APPEAL BOARD THAT THE COMMITTEE IS REACHING THAT IS RESEARCH AND GETTING INTO, UH, AS A COMMUNITY BENCH BENCHMARK PROGRAM FOR THE POLICE DIVISION RECRUITMENT, UH, WAS ALSO DISCUSSED FROM YOUTH OUTREACH, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, DAYTON'S POLICE, UH, AND YOUTH TOGETHER, AS WELL AS HUBER HEIGHTS, UH, EXPLORER PROGRAM, UM, TO THE HIRING OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

UH, THE PRIMARY POINT WAS COLLABORATE, COLLABORATING TO INCREASE DIVERSITY WITHIN THE CITY SPECIFICALLY.

UH, WE ALSO REVISITED HOW THE HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DEPARTMENT ADDRESSES MENTAL HEALTH ENCOUNTERS.

UH, WE CONTINUE TO BRAINSTORM ON THE BEST WAY TO INCORPORATE MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS IN RESPONSE TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS CALLS, UM, ASKED FOR THE OHIO SENATE AND HOUSE BILLS.

A HANDOUT FROM ACO WAS PROVIDED THAT PROVIDED A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE INFORMATION WITHIN THE BILLS, UH, REGARDING IN PROGRESS RECOMMENDATIONS.

ERIC HAS REACHED OUT TO MR AND CHIEF LECHNER, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL BRAINSTORMING COLLABORATION AS WE DEVELOP AND FORMALIZE, UH, THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR NUMBER ONE, UH, REVIEWING DATA AND CITIZENS APPEAL BOARD TO DETERMINE IF WE CAN LEVERAGE THEIR PROGRAM, UH, FOR A CITY, UH, NUMBER TWO FOR A TREE TICKET PLAN ON PROACTIVELY SEEKING DIVERSE POLICE CANDIDATES AND THREE ADOPTING A MENTAL OR SOCIAL WORK CRISIS INTERVENTION POLICY.

AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FORMALIZING TO A FORMAL POINT.

UM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY, A DATE HAS NOT BEEN SET UP YET.

SO ONCE THAT DATE SET UP AND WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ACTIONS, UH, FORMALLY WITH THE CITY AS FOR NEXT DATE, OUR NEXT MEETING DATE, UH, IT'S TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE THIRD MONDAYS OF THE MONTH, UH, WHICH IS TENTATIVELY MONDAY, MAY 17TH OF 2021.

UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION TO REFORM THE SUPERINTENDENT

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OF HUBER HEIGHTS DID MAKE MENTION OF, UM, THE FACT THAT THEY WILL BE PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH THERAPISTS FOR ALL STUDENTS, UM, STARTING THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, UM, WHICH I THINK IS HUGE.

UM, AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAD A JUVENILE COMPONENT AT ONE POINT THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF THAT TO YOU ALL, IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT HE DID MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AND IT WILL BE FOR ALL STUDENTS, NO MATTER WHAT TYPE OF INSURANCE.

SO THANK YOU.

REFORM ANY QUESTIONS FOR REFORM.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUTREACH.

GOOD EVENING.

EVERYONE.

LET'S SEE, MAKE SURE I GOT THE RIGHT REPORT BECAUSE I HAD TO, THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE MET, UH, LAST TIME, APRIL 27TH, THERE WAS, UH, A QUORUM OF COURSE, UH, MR. LYONS AND SOMEONE POINTED OUT, WAS THAT THE MEETING? UM, THE, A WARD SIX REPRESENTATIVE.

UH, LET'S SEE, WE DID A, UH, QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HEBREW ARTS CULTURE FESTIVAL.

UM, AND SINCE THEN WE HAD A WORKING MEETING, UM, UH, OF THE, UH, THE MEMBERS TO, UH, GO OVER SOME OF THE DETAILS FOR THE, UH, THE HEBREW HEIGHTS CULTURE FESTIVAL AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO POSTPONE THE, UM, THE, UH, CULTURE FESTIVAL THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 12TH.

THE INTENDED DATE OF, UH, THE, UH, THE FESTIVAL FOR NEXT YEAR IS, UH, JUNE 25TH, 2022.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UH, WELL MULTIFOLD.

THE BIGGEST REASON WAS THE, UM, THE EFFECTS OF COVID AND THE GROUPS THAT JUST SIMPLY NOT COMFORTABLE COMING OUT AND PARTICIPATING AND PERFORMING IN FRONT OF LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE.

UM, THAT'S BASICALLY THE JEST OF IT.

AND, AND, AND OFF TO, TO AN INTERESTING START AND GETTING THOSE GROUPS TO PARTICIPATE, AND IT JUST DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

UM, AND SOME OF THOSE, UH, FOLKS CALL THEM MIA AS EARLY AS THIS WEEK.

AND, UM, I'M SORRY.

AND THEY WENT THROUGH AND WITHDREW LOCATION.

SO WE'RE, UM, TO BE, TO ADD TO A FRIEND, UM, THAT IS THAT WE DID HAVE ABOUT 20 VENDORS, BUT LITERALLY ABOUT 12 OF THEM ARE NON CULTURAL VENDORS.

SO MORE THAN HALF OF THEM, WEREN'T MULTICULTURAL VENDORS.

AND WE HAD VERY FEW MULTICULTURAL VENDORS AND ONLY TWO PERFORMERS.

SO IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A, IT WASN'T REALLY GOING TO BE A TRUE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

IT WAS STARTING TO LOOK MORE LIKE A SUMMER VERSION OF THE MARIGOLD FESTIVAL.

AND IN ORDER TO HAVE AN OP A REALLY GOOD, I MEAN, WE NEED TO START OFF DOING A, YOU KNOW, DOING THIS FESTIVAL JUSTICE AND IT HAVING IT JUST TO HAVING IT AND NOT HAVING IT BE TRULY MULTICULTURAL IS NOT A GOOD START WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU WANT TO DO AN INAUGURAL PROGRAM.

SO WE THOUGHT THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO PUSH IT FOR NEXT YEAR AND GIVE SOME TIME FOR THE GROUPS TO GET TOGETHER, BECAUSE THERE ARE BIG EVENTS LIKE THE DATE AND THE WORLD AFFAIR HAS CANCELED THIS YEAR.

SO THESE THINGS ARE, UM, WE JUST CAN'T GET THESE GROUPS TO, TO GET TOGETHER FOR THIS.

AND I ALSO, UM, I HAD, I MADE A SUGGESTION WITH, UM, PARKS AND REC.

I REACHED OUT TO THEM BECAUSE I HAD TWO FOOD TRUCKS AND THEY HAD, HE SAID THEY HADN'T INTENDED ON HAVING, UM, THE FARMER'S MARKET THAT DAY BECAUSE OF THE FESTIVAL.

BUT NOW THIS COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL DAY, A SATURDAY THAT THE FARMER'S MARKET CAN HAPPEN.

AND, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO INVITE THE FOOD TRUCK VENDORS TO, TO BE PART OF THAT DAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA, I'M GOING TO LET THE FOOD TRUCK VENDORS KNOW.

I HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY LET ANY OF THE GROUPS KNOW UNTIL AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING AND WE MAKE THIS OFFICIAL, SO WILL MAKE.

AND I ACTUALLY, WON'T BE JUST CALLING THEM TOMORROW RATHER THAN SENDING THEM AN EMAIL AND TO CALL THEM OUT.

AND I LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR APPLYING, BUT WE ARE GOING TO, UM, JUST POSTPONE THIS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

AND THANK YOU FOR SENDING THAT OUT.

LEAH.

AND WE ALSO HAD A COUPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE BACK FROM THE TWO OF THE COMPANIES THAT I, UH, CONTACTED IN REGARD TO SPONSORSHIP, AND I DIDN'T RESPOND TO THOSE RESPONSES YET.

SO I'LL, I'LL LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE IT OUT TO NEXT YEAR WITH THE INTENT OF, UM, OF, UH, PROBABLY GETTING, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE PARTICIPATION FROM THEM AS WELL.

THANK YOU, BLUE SPONSORSHIPS, ALSO ANOTHER FISCAL YEAR TO, TO PUT US ON FOR NEXT YEAR, TOO.

SO YEAH, SO THE OTHER EVENT THAT WE ARE PLANNING, AS THEY CAN REMEMBER THE OBSERVANCE OF, UH, IN NOVEMBER FOR THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

AND, UM, WE'LL GO OVER SOME, SOME OF THE DETAILS WITH AN I SPEAKING TO BRETT, OH LORD, MY THINGS ARE MIXING UP HERE, NOT BRITAIN DOWN AGAIN.

THAT'S ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UM, THE CURRICULUM SPECIALIST, I CAN'T REMEMBER

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HIS NAME NOW.

AND, UM, I SPOKE WITH HIM AND WE'LL GO OVER SOME DETAILS OF WHAT THAT THING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN NOVEMBER.

CAUSE WE WERE THINKING DIFFERENT KINDS OF CONTESTS, UH, LIKE SIMILAR TO THE, UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING ESSAY CONTEST, BUT I WANT TO GET A LOT MORE STUDENTS INVOLVED.

AND UM, AND THAT AGAIN, THAT'LL BE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, NOT THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, BUT WE'LL PLAN IT AS THE SUMMER GOES FURTHER.

THAT IS ALL MADAM CHAIR.

ALRIGHTY, THANK YOU, DR.

AKINS FOR THAT REPORT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT? UM, I DO THINK THAT BECAUSE WE ARE TO BRING THINGS BACK TO THE GREATER COMMISSION, WE NEED TO FORMALLY VOTE ON POSTPONING THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

SO MOVED ON TO MOTION TO POSTPONE AND I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY DR.

AKINS AND SECONDED BY ME OR THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL FOR THIS YEAR.

UM, AND THAT WE WILL, UM, OBVIOUSLY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR A NEW DATE, UH, JUNE 25TH, 2022.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, KATIE, WOULD YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? YAY.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

AGAIN.

YEP.

AND I DO WANT TO ADD THE, UH, THE BAGS AND PASSPORTS AND STUFF THAT WE HAD PLANNED TO PURCHASE FOR THIS YEAR.

AND SINCE WE WERE ALREADY IN PROCESS OF DOING THAT WITH THE VENDOR, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO, TO, TO DO THAT.

AND, UM, AND, AND PURCHASE THE BAGS AND THE VENDORS.

THEY'RE NOT YEAR SPECIFIC.

THEY SAY HUBER HEIGHTS ON IT.

AND, UM, IT WE'LL JUST PUT THOSE IN STORAGE SOMEWHERE UNTIL NEXT YEAR AND USE THEM FOR THE EVENT AT A QUESTION, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO, TO DATE AND TO HAVE THAT GRANT PROGRAM AND IN WHICH WE COULDN'T MEET THAT THE GRANT PROGRAM WAS SUPPOSED TO BY OHIO, OHIO IS, UH, IT WAS A, UM, A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT PROVIDED, UH, FUNDING TO CULTURAL AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS.

UM, WE DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT, UH, QUICK ENOUGH AND WE COULDN'T MEET THE APPROPRIATE DEADLINES, BUT CONSIDERING THIS, I THINK WE HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO TRY TO INCORPORATE THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I THINK WE CAN GET SOME SPONSORSHIP FROM THAT TOO, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.

JUST SOMETHING JUST TO THROW OUT THERE AS A, AS A REMINDER, UH, OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT CAN BE USED FROM THE DATA IN THE COMMUNITY.

I JUST, UH, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE GRANT AND THE LIMITATIONS FOR WHOM IT CAN BE MONEY CAN BE GRANTED FROM THAT ORGANIZATION.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, GRANTS GOING TO PUBLIC ENTITIES OR, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS CONSIDERED A MUNICIPALITY, EMMA, A COMMISSION OF A CITY.

SO IF, AND I KNOW YOU MAY HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, SO IT'S, YES, THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF FUNDING THAT THEY PROVIDE BASED OFF OF THE ASSOCIATION.

UM, FOR US, IT'S BASICALLY LIKE A 50% THAT WOULD BE FUNDED BASED OFF OF THE BUDGET.

AND THEN FOR NONPROFITS WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT WAS BASED OFF OF THE 2020 PROGRAM.

UM, SO THAT COULD BE ADJUSTED NEXT YEAR.

UM, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS, UH, OUT THERE BASED OFF OF THE TYPE OF ENTITY THAT'S REQUESTING THE FUNDS.

UM, BUT THERE IS FUNDING THAT, THAT COULD BE TAPPED INTO.

DO YOU REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE GRANT PROVIDER? NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

UM, WAS IT THE UNITED WAY? WAS IT WITH THE UNITED? UM, I THINK IT WAS WITH UNITED WAY DAY AFFAIR TODAY, THEIR RACIAL, IT HAD TO DO WITH THE DATE AND FOUNDATION.

SO I THINK IT WAS PART OF THAT.

UM, THE RACIAL, UM, I THINK IT WAS UNITED WAY WHEN IT WAS MINE.

MINE'S MUST'VE UNITED WAY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK WE BOTH, YEAH, IF YOU CAN JUST GET THE INFORMATION TO ME, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE REQUIREMENTS AND DEFINITELY WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED AT WRIGHT STATE.

WE WERE LOOKING AT IT TOO, AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CITY WITH THE BUDGET ALARM BUDGET, SO THEY WERE ALLOWING US TO STILL APPLY FOR IT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS UNITED WAY.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

IT WAS, IT WAS.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S THE STEFAN, SORRY, MS. NEWBIE, THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE.

WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE WE MET LAST TUESDAY, APRIL 27 TO

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FURTHER DISCUSS THE LOGISTICS FOR THE TWO QUARTERLY FORUMS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IN 2021.

AND AS ALREADY MENTIONED AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, THE FIRST FORUM WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY, JULY 10TH.

AND THE TOPIC IS AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING DIVERSITY TO CREATE AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY AND THE SPEAKERS FOR THAT WILL BE DR.

NICOLE CARTER, DR.

KRISTA GARROW AND MS. CAROL MI, PLEASE LET ME KNOW THAT I'M SAYING THIS CORRECTLY.

OH, WELL POSSIBLE CAROL CAROL LOMA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

PEARL, WHAT IS OKAY.

UM, THEY HAVE BEEN CONTACTED AS FAR AS WHAT THE PROPOSED IDEA IS AS FAR AS THE FORMAT FOR THE, UM, FORUM.

AND DEFINITELY WE WOULD NEED CITY COUNCIL, THE RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS DISCUSSION AS THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE.

UM, THE OTHER FORUM FOR THIS YEAR THAT WAS PROPOSED IS GOING TO BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 13TH.

AND THE TOPIC FOR THAT FORUM IS RACISM.

ISN'T PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

AND THE SPEAKERS FOR THIS FORUM ARE DR.

MICHAEL DULIN FROM DOING ASSOCIATES AND DR.

GENEVIEVE RICHIE, WHO IS AN ANTHROPOLOGIST PROFESSOR.

AM I CORRECT THAT? THANK YOU AS CENTRAL STATE UNIVERSITY.

UM, NOW I WILL HAVE TO SAY TO, UM, MR. SCHAKOWSKY, I APPRECIATE YOUR ASSISTANCE IN GETTING THOSE DAYS ON THE CALENDAR, BUT I DID SEE THAT FOR THE RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS FORUM.

THE DATE IS INCORRECT ON THE CITY CALENDAR.

IT SHOULD BE OCTOBER 13 INSTEAD OF THE SIX.

AND THE TIME WAS CORRECT, WHICH IS 6:30 PM UNTIL 8:30 PM FOR THAT FORUM AND FOR THE FORM ON THE 10TH FROM TWO UNTIL 4:00 PM.

THAT WAS CORRECT ON THE CITY CALENDAR.

SO THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP.

UM, NOW, AS FAR AS LOCATION, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MR. SCHAKOWSKY FOR YOUR HELP.

I DID REACH OUT TO MISS THERESA FARROW, WHO IS AN EMPLOYEE FOR THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS.

AND SHE DID GIVE ME A POC TO CONTACT MS. TAMMY JORGENSEN, WHO FINALLY I SPOKE WITH YESTERDAY.

AND SHE TOLD ME THERE'S A FORM ON THE CITY SCHOOL WEBSITE THAT YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT TO SECURE LOCATION.

UM, ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT I DID NOT KNOW IS THERE IS A FEE, UM, IN TERMS OF RENTING THE FACILITY.

SO SHE GAVE ME SOME QUOTES AND THE COMMITTEE, I BRIEFLY MENTIONED THIS TO THEM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND RECONVENE TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION, BUT TO USE WAYNE HIGH SCHOOLS, A TERRARIUM, THE COST IS $86 PER HOUR FOR WISE INBORN.

THE CAFETERIA GYM AREA IS $51 PER HOUR.

AND FOR, I GUESS, ANY OF THE FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE CITY IS $46 PER HOUR.

SO FAIRLY REASONABLE GRANTED THAT WE DO HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO HAVE THESE TWO FORUMS ANYWAY THIS YEAR.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TO THE COMMISSION.

AND AS STATED, THE COMMITTEE WILL RECONVENE JUST TO DECIDE ON A FINAL LOCATION.

NOW I DID ASK MS. JORGENSEN, IF WE CAN DO LIKE A HYBRID FORMAT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE BEING THERE PHYSICALLY AND REMOTELY.

SO SHE'S GOING TO FOLLOW UP AND CALL ME NEXT WEEK TO TELL ME HOW THAT CAN BE DONE.

SO I'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR THE COMMITTEE PERTAINED TO THAT.

AND FINALLY, THERE IS ONE OTHER FORUM THAT THIS COMMITTEE WANTS TO HAVE IN COLLABORATION WITH REFORM

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IN TERMS OF HAVING A DIALOGUE, HUBER HEIGHTS, CITY POLICE, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING A TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP AND CORE, ESPECIALLY BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY THIS PAST MONTH.

YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION WITH MS. MAKIA BRYANT AND COLUMBIA, MR. ANDREW BROWN IN NORTH CAROLINA, DEFINE TASTE SMITH AND, YOU KNOW, SODA, I CAN GO ON AND ON, BUT WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS OCCURRING HERE AT HUBER HEIGHTS.

SO WE HAVE A TENTATIVE TIME TO HAVE FORUM AND THROUGH OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE REFORM COMMITTEE, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING THE WEEK OF AUGUST 23RD.

SO WE WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH REFORM COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS LOGISTICS AND THE PLANS FOR THAT.

AND AGAIN, AS I ALREADY MENTIONED EARLIER, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL, THE LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS TO ATTEND THESE FORUMS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE JUST NEED TO BE ON ONE COMMON GROUND, EDUCATE, HAVE DIALOGUE, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT WHAT WE ARE AS A CITY.

YOU KNOW, I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.

SO, BUT MADAM VICE CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

THANK YOU.

MAYBE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS NEWBIE? SO I HAVE A COUPLE, UM, OUR SPEAKERS.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE RECEIVING SOME TYPE OF AN HONORARIUM OR HOW WILL THAT WORK OUT? WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THAT, BUT THAT COULD BE, UM, DISCUSSED WITHIN THE COMMITTEE.

UM, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS WITH REGARD TO JUST THE ADVERTISING, HAS THE CITY STARTED ADVERTISING BEYOND THE WEBSITE FOR THIS EVENT SO THAT WE CAN GET THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED FROM COUNCIL.

DOES COUNCIL KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS YET? OKAY.

SO THAT'S, I HAVEN'T SEEN, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T PRINTED ANYTHING.

I GAVE SARAH THE GRAPHIC.

OKAY.

UH, Y LITTLE, SHE ASKED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND I GAVE IT TO HER, BUT I HAVE, UM, LIKE I'VE NOT SEEN AN ALL HANDS OR ANYTHING, BUT I KNOW, UM, I WAS REACHED OUT.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT? SO SHE WAS GETTING CALLS FROM VENDORS.

SO SHE REACHED OUT TO ME AND I, UM, AND SHE SAID SHE WAS GOING TO UPDATE THE WEBSITE, BUT I'M HONESTLY, I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE WEBSITE TO SEE IF IT'S ON THERE.

SO WE HAVE NOT REALLY OTHER THAN OUR FACEBOOK GROUP AND US PUTTING IT OUT, HAVE THEM, I DON'T THINK IT'S DONE.

NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

EITHER A HUNDRED PERCENT FULLY OUT.

I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THINGS, BUT I'VE NOT SEEN IT ON THE KEY ADS OR ANYTHING YET.

SO NO, NO.

THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE SEEN, YOU PROBABLY SEEN IT AS WELL, AS I JUST MENTIONED THE HEBREW HIKES CITY CALENDAR HAS THOSE DATES, UM, PUBLICIZED.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NO ONE ADVERTISEMENT.

SO YEAH, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET IT ADVERTISE.

WE WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF IT AND WE WANT THEM TO PUSH IT.

AND I MEAN, THEY'VE ALL GOT WARDS, SO WE NEED, WE NEED THEIR SUPPORT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE PUTTING ALL THESE F THIS EFFORT INTO IT, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE REPRESENTING UNIVERSITIES COMING TO THE FORUMS, WE WANT SOMEBODY TO ATTEND.

SURE.

AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT SARAH HAS A PLAN ON HOW SHE PLANS ON TIMING, THOSE RELEASING THOSE POSTINGS AND WHATNOT.

SO I'LL, I'LL COMMUNICATE WITH HER, UH, TOMORROW OR MONDAY AND FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS AND PUSH THAT INFORMATION OUT TO YOU.

ALSO, YOU, YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT SHE'S THINKING WITH REGARD TO MAKING SURE THAT YOU WARMS IN JULY THAT WAY YOU COULD PUT IT ON.

YEAH.

SURE.

OKAY.

AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, UM, FROM MR. MCCASKEY.

SO DOES SARAH HAVE LIKE A SCHEDULE AS FAR AS DEADLINES TO HAVE THE FIRES ADVERTISED OR POSTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY? YEAH, SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS WHEN, UM, WE BRING SARAH INTO A PROJECT TO HELP PROMOTE WHATEVER THAT IS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, ON THE VARIOUS FACEBOOK PAGES THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER ON OUR LINKEDIN ACCOUNT OR WHATNOT, SHE'LL WORK FROM A PARTICULAR DATE.

SO WHATEVER DATE THAT IS THEN BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE GET, UM, IT SHOULD BE BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE

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RECEIVE ABOUT, UM, WHEN PEOPLE HIT THESE WEBSITES IN ADVANCE OR WHEN PEOPLE SEE.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SCIENCE OF IT MAY SAY THAT IF YOU WERE TO RELEASE THIS INFORMATION TODAY, RIGHT.

PEOPLE WILL SEE IT, BUT THEY WON'T REMEMBER IT, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S TOO FAR OUT IN ADVANCE.

AND SO TH THIS IS INFORMATION THAT SARAH HAS WHEN SHE MAKES THESE DECISIONS.

AND SO EVERY EVENT IS DIFFERENT BASED ON WHAT IT GETS POSTED WHEN THOSE POSTINGS GET RELEASED.

SO SHE TYPICALLY PROGRAMS THOSE IN ADVANCE.

SO IF WE GIVE HER THAT INFORMATION, NOW SHE WON'T POST IT NOW, BUT SHE'LL PROGRAM IT TO BE RELEASED 30 DAYS BEFORE BEFOREHAND, THERE'LL BE A REMINDER, A POP-UP 20 DAYS.

SO I'D HAVE TO TALK WITH HER ABOUT WHAT SHE'S THINKING WITH REGARD TO THIS AND WHAT SHE'S GOT POSTED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE TWO MONTHS OUT, SO SURE.

YOU KNOW, AS FREQUENT AS POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE FIRE IS, YOU KNOW, CREATED AND FINALIZED FOR IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, ADVERTISED.

SURE.

YEP.

SO I WILL TALK WITH HER AND GET THAT INFORMATION AS SOON AS I CAN GET A COMPREHENSIVE LIST FROM HER OF KIND OF WHAT SHE WAS THINKING AND WHAT HER PLAN WAS.

WE'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU ALL.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

OKAY.

AND MIA, I THINK YOU YOU'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH SARAH, RIGHT.

ON SOME OF THEM, SHE GIVES ME THE, LIKE THE DIMENSIONS AND THE NEED FOR KEY ADS.

SO I USUALLY GIVE HER THE, UM, THE GRAPHICS THAT I HAVE DO YOU WANNA DO THE SAME THING WITH THE FORUMS? I DID THAT WITH THE MLK REFERRING TO SOME OF IT'S LIKE, PERFECT.

SO THIS IS GOING TO GO OUT TO COUNCIL THIS WEEK THEN SO THAT THEY HAVE IT.

YEAH.

WE CAN GIVE A NOTICE TO TONY AND YOU CAN PUSH IT OUT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THAT'S MY CONCERN, UM, THAT ALL OF COUNCIL IS AWARE OF IT.

CAUSE I KNOW THEIR SCHEDULES ARE BUSY AND THEN WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTION COMING UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE IT ON THEIR CALENDARS.

RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? JANE, ARE YOU, UM, OKAY.

SO WITH REGARDS TO ADVOCACY, WE'VE HAD A PRETTY BUSY MEETING.

WE MET ON APRIL THE 21ST.

WE MADE THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH AND WE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS.

UM, LET'S START WITH ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST MEETING WAS US WANTING TO EIGHT UP TO A MINORITY BUSINESS AT THE MONTH.

AND I MENTIONED THAT I WAS GOING TO BE MEETING WITH THE SECRETARY OF THE COLUMBUS AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER, WHICH I DID HAVE THAT MEETING.

UM, AND HE GAVE ME SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO, HOW WE COULD ESTABLISH A CHAMBER, UM, EITHER IN OUR CITY, UM, WHETHER IT BE A MINORITY CHAMBER, AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER DAYTON DOES NOT HAVE AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER.

THEY USED TO HAVE ONE, THEY DON'T HAVE ONE ANYMORE.

SO THE REASON WE WANT TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE THE SAME ACCESS TO RESOURCES THAT OTHER BUSINESSES HAVE.

AND SO HE DID GIVE ME SOME, SOME INSIGHT ON HOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, AND OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGED ME TO PARTNER WITH THE DATE AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHO HAS A MINORITY BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP SO THAT THEY COULD MAKE SOME OF THEIR RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO US.

SO, UM, MY GOAL IS TO, BY OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THIS MONTH TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION FROM THE MINORITY BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP ON WAYS THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT OUR BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, UM, ARE ABLE TO ACCESS THE RESOURCES THAT THEY MAY HAVE AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT'S TRAINING, UM, FUNDING, INFORMATION, CERTIFICATION, INFORMATION, WHATEVER THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.

SO I WILL REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

ONCE THAT MEETING HAS BEEN, HAD TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ENDED UP THERE.

I THINK PEOPLE WILL LEAVE ON MINORITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THEY HAVE LEFT AND THEY, THE DAY DAVIS WAY, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY OTHER IN THIS AREA, BUT THE BIG HISPANIC CHAMBER UP WITH ROBERTSON LATENESS IS AN ACTIVE GROUP IN THIS AREA TOO.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING

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WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE.

NO, NO, THAT'D BE, IT WOULD BE, UM, HE HAS, HE HAS LIKE GLOBAL CONNECTIONS WITH SOME OF THE MINORITY.

OKAY.

THEY HAVE BACKED UP THEN BECAUSE THEY ALREADY OWN SHAMAR ONLY UP MINORITY COMP CHUMP CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT WE HAVE.

I THINK ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS IS THAT THERE IS NOT AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER ANYMORE.

AND THE ONE THAT WE HAD, SHE WAS SO HELPFUL IN ASSISTING AFRICAN-AMERICAN OWNED BUSINESSES.

SHE USED TO BE IN THE UNITED WAY BUILDING.

UM, ELAINE, I CANNOT ELEANOR, I THINK IT WAS ELEANOR CAN'T THINK OF HER LAST NAME, BUT SHE WAS AMAZING.

AND SO THAT IS A DEFICIT IN OUR CITY, UM, FOR THE DAYTON AREA, BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

UM, ANOTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR MEETING ORIGINALLY, WE WERE GOING TO FOCUS ON MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, BUT, UM, AND JUST FOR REFERENCE AND YOU ALL MAY KNOW THIS, BUT JUST MAKE A NOTE OF THIS, THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES TO BE CERTIFIED AS A MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS, YOUR COMPANY MUST BE AT LEAST 51% OWNED, OPERATED, AND CONTROLLED BY A MINIMUM OF ONE US CITIZEN WHOSE ETHNIC BACKGROUND IS AT LEAST 25% ASIAN, INDIAN, ASIAN, PACIFIC, BLACK, HISPANIC, OR NATIVE AMERICAN.

AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD QUALIFY A BUSINESS AS A MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT A MINORITY BUSINESS ENTERPRISE, WE GET INTO WOMAN OWNS VETERAN OWNED OR A GROUP THAT IS OWNED BY ONE OF THOSE ETHNIC GROUPS THAT I JUST MENTIONED.

SO, UM, WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE'RE SAYING WE WANT TO FOCUS ON MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT FILTERING THE TRUE INTENTION OF OUR COMMISSION, WHICH IS TO ELIMINATE THAT STRUCTURAL RACISM.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES ARE HAVING ACCESS TO THE SAME RESOURCES THAT OTHER BUSINESSES HAVE ACCESS TO.

AND SO THERE MAY BE A WOMAN OWNED BUSINESS, BUT IT NOT, MAY NOT BE OWNED BY A BLACK WOMAN.

IT MAY BE A VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS, BUT IT MAY NOT BE OWNED BY A BLACK VETERAN.

SO WE WANT TO STILL MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON BLACK AND BROWN BUSINESSES.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT FILTERING THROUGH THOSE QUALIFICATIONS BY JUST SAYING OWNED.

SO WE MAY FOCUS ON A MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS.

WE MAY FOCUS ON A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS AUGUST AS BLACK OWNED BUSINESS MONTH.

AND SO THAT WILL BE A GREAT TIME TO REALLY FOCUS ON BUILDING UP BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I WANTED TO KIND OF BRING THAT UP TO YOU GUYS.

UM, ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO MAJOR INCIDENTS, UM, WHETHER THEY BE A CRIME, A MAJOR CRIME OR A MAJOR INCIDENT.

SARAH, DO YOU HAVE YOUR NOTES ON THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE TAKING NOTES FOR THAT MEETING.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME WAS THE RESPONSE TIME AND HOW WE WANT TO RESPOND TO, UM, MAJOR INCIDENTS.

AND SO WHAT WE SAID IS WITHIN 24 HOURS OF A MAJOR INCIDENT, WE WANT TO HAVE THE MAYOR OR HIS DESIGNEE GIVE SOME TYPE OF RESPONSE, WHETHER IT'S JUST AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OR WRITTEN LETTER, BUT SOME SORT OF STATEMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A SISTER CITY HAS HAD SOME TYPE OF MAJOR INCIDENT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE FAVORABLE TO OTHER CITIES AND THAT NEEDS TO COME FROM A LEADERSHIP POSITION FROM MAYOR TO MAYOR OR HIS DESIGNEE, WHICH MAY BE A COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, AND THEN WITHIN 48 HOURS, THE AVID, THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME SORT OF STATEMENT.

AND THEN WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF INCIDENT, SOME SORT OF SOLIDARITY EVENT, WHICH, WHETHER IT BE A RALLY, WHETHER IT BE A PROTEST, WHETHER IT JUST BE A LETTER, WHATEVER THE SOLIDARITY EVENT IS, WE WOULD DECIDE THAT, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE A CONSISTENT PROCESS

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FOR HOW WE ARE ADDRESSING THESE INCIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IF WE WERE LOOKING FOR THE, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT ADVOCACY IS THE DEFINITION OF A MAJOR INCIDENT.

IT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, LOSS OF LIFE DURING A POLICE INTERACTION, HATE CRIMES OR HATE INCIDENTS AND INCIDENTS OF ETHNIC INTIMIDATION, JUST TO KIND OF SUM UP THOSE MAJOR INCIDENTS FOR US.

AND THEN THE LAST THING WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, UM, WAS OUR ANTI PROTEST BILLS.

AND I THINK YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT IT AND REFORM AS WELL.

UM, I SENT YOU ALL, DID EVERYBODY RECEIVE THE ANTI PROTEST BILLS THAT I SENT YOU ALL? HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO KIND OF LOOK THEM OVER? CORRECT? I DID.

SO THERE WAS A SENATE BILL, 41, UM, HOUSE BILL 22 HOUSE BILL ONE OH NINE AND THEN SENATE BILL 16 AND I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO REALLY LOOK AT IS HOW THESE BILLS ARE GOING TO CRIMINALIZE CRIMINALIZE OR INCREASED PENALTIES FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR.

IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT IF WE AGREE WITH THE BILL OR DISAGREE WITH THE BILL, BUT ON OUR COMMISSION, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURAL PIECE AND HOW THESE THINGS IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY OF COLOR.

HOW ARE THESE BILLS GOING TO IMPACT PEOPLE OF COLOR? UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT SENATE BILL 16, UM, IT'S IN REGARD TO CIVIL ACTION BY CRIMES AGAINST FIRST RESPONDERS.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT ALL OF THESE BILLS, BUT I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO READ THEM BECAUSE IF THE GEORGE FLOYD SITUATION HAD GONE WAY DIFFERENT, THAT WOULD HAVE REALLY IMPACTED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE THESE HAVE THESE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE BILLS, WHERE THEY ARE IN THE SENATOR HOUSE IN OTHER STATES, BUT I KNOW THAT IN MINNESOTA, IF THEY HAVE THESE ANTI PROTEST LAWS AND THESE LAWS HAVE PASSED, THINGS COULD GO RIGHT WAY BAD FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PROTESTING BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SITUATION WITH GEORGIA, FLORIDA.

SO WE NEED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, HOW ARE THESE BILLS GOING TO IMPACT? AND I LOOK AT IT PERSONALLY, HOW WOULD THIS BILL IMPACT ME? IF THAT WERE, MY SON WAS KILLED, I WOULD WANT TO PROTEST, I WOULD WANT ANSWERS.

YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO PERSONALIZE THESE THINGS AND LOOK AT HOW THEY IMPACT US, HOW THEY IMPACT PEOPLE OF COLOR AND HOW THEY'RE IMPACTED, HOW COULD THEY IMPACT OUR CITY? MINNEAPOLIS COULD HAVE BEEN HUBER HEIGHTS AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY LOOK AT THESE DEALS.

AND ONE OF THEM IS 53 PAGES LONG.

SO YOU GOT TO KIND OF DIG INTO IT AND REALLY LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE CHUNK AND HOW RIDING ON A SIDEWALK CAN GET YOU A FELONY, HOW BLOWING BUBBLES CAN GET YOU A FELONY.

SO THOSE THINGS THAT SEEM LIKE NOTHING.

I MEAN, YOU COULD JUST, YOU COULD THINK I'M DOING A GREAT THING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT MAKING NOISE.

I'M JUST BLOWING BUBBLES AND END UP WITH A FELONY.

SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

UM, LOOK AT THESE BILLS.

I KNOW REFORM IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH.

MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL ARE REALLY DOING WITH THE BILLS, BUT FROM AN ADVOCACY PERSPECTIVE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR NOT BEING CRIMINALIZED, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THE EDUCATION SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THESE BILLS ARE, SO THAT WHEN THEY BLOW BUBBLES, THEY KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF BLOWING BUBBLES IS IN THIS SITUATION.

AND THESE BILLS ARE BROUGHT UP AND WHY WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE VERY, UM, SPECIALLY TARGETING, UM, THE MARGINALIZED GROUPS, THESE BILLS, ONE BROUGHT UP UNTIL STANDING ROCK STARTED.

SO THEY INITIATED THAT WITH THE NATIVE AMERICAN, BECAUSE WE WERE STARTING THE, UH, THE NATIVE AMERICAN GROUP, OHIO WAS STARTING TO PROTEST AGAIN, THE FRACKING THAT'S IT, IT WAS A TALL

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AT THAT TIME.

THEN WHEN THE PROTEST OVER THE SUMMER WITH THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT, THAT'S WHEN THEY ACTUALLY PUSHED THAT AS LEGISLATIVE AND IT PACKED TO AVOID TO WHERE IT'S NOW IN FRONT OF THE STATE, UNTIL THESE CAN ACTUALLY BECOME WALLS IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, AND THE WAY OUR STATE VOTES MORE THAN LIKELY IT WILL.

CAUSE I DON'T THINK DEWINE.

SO YEAH.

SO IT'S, IT'S THE AWARENESS PIECE, THE AWARENESS PIECE, JUST GOTTA BE AWARE.

TARA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR ADVOCACY? UM, WE DID DISCUSS PUTTING, UM, AN EVENT ON THE CALENDAR FOR, UM, THE ANNIVERSARY OF GEORGE FLOYD'S DEATH, UH, MAY 25TH, THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO A, UH, RALLY AND A CANDLE CEREMONY AT DUSK AT COMMUNITY PARK ACROSS THE STREET FROM WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO IT WILL BE A BLACK LIVES MATTER RALLY AND REMEMBRANCE FOR GEORGE FLOYD ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH FROM EIGHT TO NINE 30.

SO PLEASE KEEP IT'S TUESDAY.

UM, PLEASE KEEP THAT DATE, UM, AVAILABLE FOR US FOR THAT NIGHT, THE 25TH OF MAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, ANY DISCUSSION ON ADVOCACY'S REPORT OR TOO QUIETS AND RIGHT.

I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT WRONG WITH ADVOCACY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, IF THE, AS A SUGGESTION FOR EITHER OUTREACH OR ADVOCACY GROUP, UM, UM, TO DO MORE OF A VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVES.

YEAH.

UM, 30, I THINK WE HAVE LIKE 30, A LITTLE OVER 30,000 REGISTERED VOTERS IN THIS CITY AND LITERALLY 2007 TUESDAY, THIS MOMENT, THIS MOMENT, AND THIS NOVEMBER IS GOING TO BE VERY SIGNIFICANT IN THE ELECTION WITH MANY COUNCIL SEATS UP AND THE MAYOR OF THAT AFFECTS US OR PERMISSION AS WELL.

SO I, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOME MORE, UM, THIS SUMMER WORK ON VOTER EDUCATION, REGISTRATION DRIVES AND JUST THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING OUR, WE HAVE A IT'S YEAR BY YEAR.

I GET DISAPPOINTED EVERY TIME I SEE THE NUMBERS OF THE VOTERS IN THE CITY THAT WE JUST DON'T GET THE NUMBERS HERE.

SO I, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US WITH THAT.

UM, SINCE THAT WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION COMING UP AND TO INCLUDE THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE WE JUST, I THINK WE DID PRETTY WELL AND GETTING OUT, AND WE DID THAT IN A SHORT NOTICE OF GETTING THOSE OUT, UM, GETTING THOSE OUT FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE TIME TO BE OUT MORE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THINGS TO GET MORE, EVEN IF IT'S DOOR TO DOOR.

I MEAN, I, I'M WILLING TO GO ON, WALK AROUND TO, TO GET THEM, YOU KNOW, TO GET PEOPLE REGISTERED ANY FIRST.

YEAH.

AND TO CHANGE THE MINDSET THAT MY VOTE DOESN'T COUNT.

YEAH.

I I'VE READ THAT ALL OR THAT RENTERS AREN'T ARE THE REASON WHY WE'RE NOT RUNNING.

I'M JUST GONNA, SO BETWEEN THE THREE OF OUR COMMISSIONS OR FOUR OF OUR COMMISSIONS, WE CAN COME TOGETHER TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK ON SOME, UH, VOTER MOBILIZATION, VOTER REGISTRATION TYPE EVENTS, EACH EVENT THAT WE MAY HAVE JUST HAVE LIKE A TABLE OR SECTION WHERE YOU CAN REGISTER PEOPLE TO VOTE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I WONDER WHERE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE REGISTERED THAT JUSTIN VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES BECAUSE SOMETIMES I THINK PEOPLE DON'T GET THE IMPORTANCE OF VOTING IN THE PRIMARIES AND IT'S AS IMPORTANT IF NOT MORE REGISTERED PRESIDENT JOHN, I CAN'T TELL YOU IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, MY EXPERIENCE, I WORKED ALL DAY AT THE POLES CAMPAIGNING.

UM, MY EXPERIENCE ALL DAY AT THE POLLS AT THIS LOCATION, I WAS AT JUST CONFIRMED TO ME THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS COMMISSION AND OUR FORUMS THAT WE WERE, I HAD PROBABLY SOME OF THE MOST AWFUL CONVERSATIONS THAT DAY ABOUT THEY BROUGHT UP BECAUSE THEY KNEW I WAS ON THE COMMISSION.

SO THEY BROUGHT UP ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING AND JUST, IT JUST SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THIS MESSAGE OUT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, SHARE WHAT WE'RE DOING, GETTING LONELY, HOW IMPORTANT IS JUST AN EYE.

IT WAS A LITTLE BIT, I WOULD SAY, HEARTBREAKING AND SAD TO HAVE SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH VOTERS

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AND, UM, JUST, AND WHY THEY WERE CHOOSING WHO ELVIS INFORMED US.

IT JUST, IT, IT WAS A VERY ROUGH, IT WAS SOME ROUGH CONVERSATIONS THAT DAY.

BUT I THINK THAT JUST, UM, I JUST WANT TO, IN EVERYBODY I'M HEARING THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY IS DOING TO GET THIS MESSAGE OUT, TO SHARE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, IT'S SUCH A POSITIVE THING THAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR CITIES AND OUR COMMUNITY TO DO THIS.

AND JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S JUST MY LITTLE SOAPBOX PIECE AFTER MY EXPERIENCE, TUESDAY, ALL DAY UP AT THE POLLS.

SO TO MAKE A MOTION TO RALLY.

YES.

MA'AM YES.

MA'AM.

I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD A RALLY AND BRING ON, NOT IN THAT, NOT IN VICE CHAIR.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY.

EIGHT TO NINE 30.

SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADD A BLACK LIVES OR CELEBRATION OF BLACK LIVES RALLY, UM, IN OBSERVANCE OF GEORGE FLOYD'S DEATH ON MAY 25TH FROM EIGHT TO NINE 30, ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR COMMITTEE REPORTS.

UH, WE DO HAVE SOME OLD BUSINESS.

THE FIRST ITEM DID HAVE ONE THING TO ADD.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VOTER REGISTRATION NOW THAT THE FARMER'S MARKET IS BACK UP.

MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT DOING BOTH AT THE FARMER'S MARKET REGISTRATION.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

EXCUSE ME.

UM, WOULD EVERYONE MIND TURNING THEIR MICROPHONES ON? I JUST GOT A MESSAGE THAT SOME FOLKS DON'T HAVE THEIR MICROPHONES ON.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO HEAR.

SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR MICROPHONE ON, UM, SOME FOLKS WATCHING AT HOME, CAN'T HEAR, SO THANK YOU.

YOU WANT ALL OF THEM ON WHETHER WE'RE SPEAKING OR NOT? NO, JUST YOUR MIC WHENEVER YOU WERE SPEAKING IS, IS FINE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO UNDER OLD BUSINESS, UM, THE FIRST ITEM E O DATA TRACKING AND HIRING PRACTICES, I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT, UM, WHO'S BEING HIRED.

UM, AND ARE YOU ALL TRACKING THAT INFORMATION? HOW ARE YOU TRACKING IT? SO THIS WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA.

ARE YOU OR BRIAN SPEAKING ON THIS? UM, I'M NOT SURE.

OKAY.

UM, AND WE DO FOLLOW THE EOC GUIDELINES.

WE, WHILE OUR, UM, EEO COMPLIANCE EVERY TWO YEARS.

SO IT'S BIENNIAL.

UM, WE COLLECT THAT INFORMATION ONCE HIRED AND WE SUBMIT THAT THROUGH REPORT, UM, TO THE EOC, WHICH IS DUE THE SEMESTER, EVERY DISCUSSION WITH THE ITEM.

DID YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION, KATIE, IS THAT DATA COLLECTED WHEN WE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE APPLYING FOR THE POSITIONS, ARE WE TRACKING THAT WE HAVE NOT TRACKED THAT? AND WHEN UPON APPLICATION WE TRACK IT ONCE HIGHER AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMPLIANCE IS WITH THE EFC.

OKAY.

IS THERE A REASON WHY WE'RE NOT TRACKING IT AT APPLICATION SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE'RE HIRING? NO, THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC REASON.

UM, WE FOLLOWED UP WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO ENSURE THAT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MEETING ALL OUR OBLIGATIONS AND WE ARE, UM, RECOMMENDATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CONTINUE DOWN THAT SAME PATH.

UM, SO WE DO NOT TRACK IT AT ALL.

OKAY.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN, CAN DO BECAUSE THE MOST EMPLOYERS, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES AS WELL.

THEY ARE TRACKING THAT INFORMATION AT APPLICATION AND AN EFFORT TO COMPARE THE APPLICANTS, THE APPLICANT BASE IN COMPARISON WITH OUR HIRING AND WHO WE'RE HIRING.

IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE LOOK AT, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S VOLUNTARY, IT'S ANONYMOUS IN A WAY THAT WE WOULD KEEP IT COMPLETELY SEPARATE

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FROM THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, RIGHT.

IT COULD BE A POLICY WE COULD LOOK AT IF, IF THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE.

AND I THINK FOR ME, IT GOES BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT EQUALITY VERSUS EQUITY.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TWO MINORITIES OR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO BE RECRUITED, TO APPLY, TO INTERVIEW AND BE HIRED.

UM, BUT, BUT IT'S THAT EQUITY PIECE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT EEOC SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, BUT I THINK WE IT'S TIME TO JUST TAKE THE STANDARD A BIT HIGHER, YOU KNOW, AND NOW LET'S, WE REALIZE THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME ACCESS.

THAT'S JUST THE REALITY.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO STEP BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE ACCESS TO APPLY, TO BE RECRUITED, TO BE INTERVIEWED AND TO BE HIRED.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY ASK.

UM, AND I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMISSION, BUT THAT WILL BE MY ASK IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST THE EQUALITY PIECE.

SO I'M SORRY, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN POSITIONS WITH THE CITY APPLIED ARE, DO ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS COME IN, UH, PAPER APPLICATIONS, OR DO WE DO SOME OF THEM ONLINE? WAS THERE A COMBINATION? SHOULD WE DO A COMBINATION? SO, UM, JUST FOR THAT REASON, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO ONLINE, WE HAVE THEM HERE AT THE CITY BUILDING, YOU CAN MAIL IT IN, YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE.

YOU CAN SUBMIT EVERYTHING ONLINE, INCLUDE YOUR RESUME, COVER LETTER, UM, WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

UM, SO THAT OPTION, AND THEN THERE'S A PAPER COPY.

YOU CAN PRINT OFF.

IF YOU DO HAVE ACCESS TO, MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO SUBMIT IT ONLINE, YOU CAN DO THE PAPER COPY FOR THAT ALSO.

SO THERE IS A WAY OF WHAT WE CAN ADD TO THAT PAPER APPLICATION AND ADDENDUM, UM, ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT, ARE THEY, UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO SPECIFICS, BUT THERE'S ABOUT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED AND I'VE SEEN THESE APPLICATIONS BEFORE.

UM, IT COULD ALSO BE ADDED TO THE ELECTRONIC APPLICATIONS WHERE THE ROUTING FOR THAT PARTICULAR PAGE JUST GOES TO A DIFFERENT PLACE.

IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'D HAVE TO TRY AND SET UP AND MAKE SURE IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS AND VOLUNTARY.

OKAY.

SO DOES IT COME IN WITH THE APPLICATION? CAUSE I WANT TO, I WOULD HAVE TO KEEP THOSE SEPARATE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANKS.

SO I JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT THE FACT THAT IT IS VOLUNTARY MEANS THAT AS A STATISTICAL MEASURE, IT WILL BE AN INACCURATE DATA SET.

EVERY TIME WE MAKE A COMPARISON BASED ON THE INTENT THAT YOU DESIRE THE DATA TO BE USED.

I JUST WANT THAT IS THAT DOESN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S A GIVEN.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ASSUMED THAT NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE, WE CAN BASICALLY BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT THAT OF THOSE WHO APPLIED AND VOLUNTARILY RESPONDED TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

THIS IS THE OUTCOME, CORRECT? NOT KNOWING HOW MANY APPLICATIONS YOU HAD VERSUS HOW MANY VOLUNTARY RESPONSES YOU HAD WILL SKEW THE DATA WHEN YOU MAKE THE FINAL COMPARISON OR WHEN YOU ATTEMPT TO MAKE THE ASSESSMENT.

SO AS LONG AS THAT'S UNDERSTOOD, AND THAT'S A DECISION THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL WANT TO INSTILL, THEN THAT WILL BE THE DIRECTION THAT WE UNDERTAKE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE COMMITTEE IS NOT TO SKEW THOSE NUMBERS, BUT TO CAPTURE REAL DATA, RIGHT? IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION AND THAT'S THE DATA THAT WE ARE GOING TO, THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT STATISTICS, ANYTHING CAN BE SKEWED.

I MEAN, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE MARK, MARK TWAIN SAID THERE'S LIES, DAMN LIES AND STATISTICS.

SO AWESOME.

SO WHEN I'VE APPLIED FOR A JOB THAT ALWAYS FOLLOWS THE APPLICATION.

SO SHOULD I ASSUME THAT IF THAT FOLLOWS MY APPLICATION AND I CHOOSE TO NOT VOLUNTARILY NOT GIVE THAT INFORMATION, THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT I GAVE THE INFORMATION.

SO IF I SAY THAT I'M BLACK, THAT I'M A WOMAN THAT I'M NOT A VETERAN AND I DON'T HAVE A DISABILITY AND IT'S ATTACHED TO MY APPLICATION.

SHOULD I ASSUME THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT RHONDA L SUMLIN COMPLETED THAT THE, THE W HERE, RIGHT? THEY WOULDN'T KNOW THAT RHONDA L SUMLIN COMPLETED THAT.

CORRECT.

IF YOU ATTACH IT TO YOUR APPLICATION, IT'S ALREADY ATTACHED.

IT'S IT'S ONLINE.

IT FOLLOWS EVERY APPLICATION THAT I'VE EVER DONE.

IT'S THEY CAN'T ASK ME TO ANSWER YOU, THE

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HR MAY HAVE IT, BUT LIKE, IF IT GOES TO A SEARCH COMMITTEE OR SO, CAUSE I BET, I BET ON SEARCH COMMITTEES WHERE I GET JUST THE GENERIC, THIS, HOW MANY THIS VOTE, I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO IS, WHO OR WHO, WHAT FITS, WHERE THERE'S, IT'S SPECIFICALLY ON QUALIFICATIONS FOR THAT POSITION.

CAUSE I I'VE NEVER NOT SEEN IT.

AND I'M APPLYING FOR EXECUTIVE LEVEL POSITIONS, RIGHT? SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT I APPLIED.

AND I SAID, I WAS BLACK FEMALE, NON VETERAN NON-HISPANIC UNLESS, AND I HAVE THE OPTION TO SAY, I CHOOSE NOT TO DISCLOSE.

I CAN CHECK THAT BOX TOO.

BUT IF I DISCLOSE IT, YOU KNOW, THAT I, THAT I'M WHO I SAY I AM.

RIGHT.

BUT IT WOULDN'T BE WITH THE APPLICATION.

IT WOULD BE SEPARATE.

I WOULD NOT GO INTO A SEPARATE PLACE.

CORRECT.

IF I DO IT ONLINE, IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO THE APPLICATION.

I WOULD NOT HAVE AN ASSET THAT REQUIRED TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE APPLICATION SO THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES.

BUT THE PURPOSE IS THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING THAT DATA IS IF IT'S AN HR PRACTICE, IT'S CALLED THE FORFEIT.

THIS WILL ACTUALLY, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE HIRING PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE NOT SUBSTANTIAL, YOU'RE NOT HIRING A SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER NUMBER OF PEOPLE FOR A CERTAIN GROUP THAN YOU ARE FOR THE OTHER GROUP.

SO IT'S REALLY A POLICY SET IN PLAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON, UM, SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MINORITY APP.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO GET CLARITY.

SO ONLINE, WHEN I SEE THIS FOLLOWING MY APPLICATION, I SHOULD ASSUME THAT SOMEBODY UP IN THE CLOUDS HEAVENS IS, IS GOING TO TAKE THAT FROM MY APPLICATION AND SENT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

CAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HAPPENS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S A QUESTION OF INFORMATION MANAGEMENT AND HOW IT'S PROGRAMMED ON THE BACK END.

I MEAN, NOBODY HERE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ANY SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION OTHER THAN THE ONES YOU WORK FOR.

BUT DON'T DO THAT.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S A SEPARATE EMAIL, IT GOES TO, UM, IT, IT CAN NOT BE ATTACHED TO THE APPLICANT.

CORRECT.

UM, I CAN'T HAND, YOU KNOW, LIKE MISS HONAKER SAID, I CAN'T HAND A SCREENING COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR RECORDS, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR REQUISITES.

THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER MALE, FEMALE, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S STRICTLY ON QUALIFICATIONS FOR THAT POSITION.

SO THAT INFORMATION WOULD ALLOW US TYPICALLY TO TRACK, OKAY, WE'RE REACHING THIS MANY PEOPLE.

IF WE'RE NOT REACHING THIS MANY PEOPLE, WHERE ELSE DO WE NEED TO REACH? BUT IT'S NOT USED, IT'S NOT USED AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

AND IT SHOULDN'T BE, IT SHOULDN'T BE USED IT'S TECH.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A DIFFERENCE WITH LEGALITIES BETWEEN PUBLIC ENTITIES AND PRIVATE ENTITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IS FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO, AGAIN, TO AVOID DISCRIMINATION AND ALL THAT.

BUT I KNOW FOR PUBLIC ENTITY, LIKE WE, WHEN WE HAVE THIS, WE HAVE TO POST EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE, IT GOES TO OUR SEARCH COMMITTEES AND OUR TRAININGS AND OUR SEARCH COMMITTEES.

WE CAN'T EVEN ASK QUESTIONS AT THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN CANDIDATES.

SO ALL THE CANDIDATES HAVE TO GET THE EXACT SAME QUESTIONS.

AND SO, AND THEN WE DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THEY DO GET ASKED THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE GET THE DETAILS, WHAT HR GIVES TO US.

SO I'M ASSUMING OUR HR PEOPLE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WHO ANSWERED WHAT OR WHATEVER.

BUT WHAT WE GET AS A SEARCH COMMITTEE IS JUST BASICALLY WE HAVE FOUR AFRICAN-AMERICANS, TWO ASIANS, THREE IDENTIFY OTHER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IS WE JUST HAVE BASIC STATISTICS WHO WAS, WHO I DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE MEET THE CANDIDATES FACE TO FACE, BUT THAT'S HOW WE DO IT AT, UM, AT RIGHT STATE.

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S PRETTY MUCH MOST ACROSS THE BOARD FOR MOST PUBLIC PUBLIC ENTITIES.

SO WE, WE DON'T GET THAT MUCH INFORMATION.

WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICATION.

THE, UM, THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION IS NOT EVEN SEE, EVEN IF YOU RUN A, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED AN AGGREGATED REPORT FOR THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, YOU ONLY GET THE INFORMATION THAT THE SEARCH MEMBERS NEED, EQUITY AND INCLUSION HIRING.

SO WE OBVIOUSLY GET, BUT I MEAN, BUT WE DON'T AUTOMATICALLY GET IT WITH ALL OUR STUFF.

ANYWAY, WE HAVE TO ASK OUR HR TO GIVE IT TO US.

WELL, WE AUTOMATICALLY GET IS JUST YOUR RESUME OR QUALIFICATION, THAT'S IT.

AND THAT WE DON'T GET ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THAT.

BUT IF WE WANT MORE, WHICH WE USUALLY DO BECAUSE WE ARE HIRING AND YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY WORK.

SO WE'RE HIRING THOSE STAFF.

SO WE WANT TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSE POOL OF CANDIDATES, SO THEY'LL GIVE US THAT.

BUT THAT'S ALL, THAT'S WHAT WE DO ON THAT.

WE ONLY GET IT IF WE REQUESTED, IF IT'S AGGREGATED, RIGHT.

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WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S WHO OR WHO'S, YOU KNOW, OR ANYTHING WE JUST GET, THIS IS HOW MANY YOU GOT AND THAT'S IT.

AND IT'S VERY, IT'S, IT'S ALL ANONYMOUS.

SO, SO DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THAT THAT DATA IS STARTING TO BE TRACKED SO THAT THAT INFORMATION CAN BE LOOKED AT THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT TO THEM.

KATIE, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM AND THE CITY, I'M SORRY I HAVE, WHAT DO WE USE AN APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM? NO, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT SOFTWARE.

SO WE PUT EVERYTHING INTO A SPREADSHEET OF OUR OWN.

I'VE LOOKED INTO THOSE.

SO IT'S, IT'S THE ONES WE'VE LOOKED AT ARE KIND OF COSTLY, BUT, UM, SO I LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE WHEN WE'RE READY TO THAT YOLANDA IS PUTTING EMOTION ON YOLANDA.

WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU.

I BET.

CAN YOU HEAR ME A LITTLE BIT LOUDER? SORRY.

I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT, UH, FOR CITY TO MOVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE TRACK EEO DATA AT POINT OF APPLICATION, MADAM CHAIR SECOND.

OKAY.

IT HAS BEEN, UH, MOVED AND SECOND THAT A RECOMMENDATION BE MADE TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE BEGIN TO TRACK DATA FROM THE POINT OF APPLICATION.

UH, KATIE.

WELL, I'LL DO IT THIS WAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

OPPOSED DID YOU CATCH IT? OKAY.

OKAY.

I THINK WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE ANTI PROTEST BILLS THAT I UNDER ADVOCACY.

SO UNLESS THERE WAS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL MOVE PAST THAT.

STEFAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THOSE ANTI PROTEST BILLS AND NOT JUST THE, THE ACLU, UM, UH, BROCHURE THAT WAS PROVIDED, UH, REGARDING THE SENATE BILLS AND, UM, JUST, UH, PROVIDING THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, UPDATES, UH, PERIODICALLY BASED OFF OF THE, THE SESSION COUNCILS THAT THEY'RE HAVING AT AT, AT SENATE AND HOUSE.

UM, SO THERE ARE FREQUENT AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED SINCE THEN, AS WELL AS STRONG PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS TO THE BILL.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOBILIZATION, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, I THINK THE BEST WAY WOULD BE TO PROVIDE A COLLECTIVE VOICE TO GO TO HOUSE, TO SPEAK FOR, FOR ORDER AGAINST THE BILL.

DO YOU HAVE THAT BROCHURE THAT YOU COULD SEND OUT TO ALL OF THE AC? OKAY.

OKAY.

WE'LL GIVE YOU GRACE AND MERCY.

ALRIGHTY.

SO NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, OH, I'M SORRY.

I'M ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO WE WERE UNDER OLD BUSINESS.

WE'RE NOW UNDER NEW BUSINESS PROCESS FOR MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

NOW, UH, STEFAN DID SEND OUT A FIVE PAGE DOCUMENT.

IT GETS BUSY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A BOTTLE OF WINE LATER, YOU GET FIVE PAGES DOWN AND THAT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENED.

YEAH.

UM, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT, WE JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR PROCESS IS GOING TO BE FOR THE CULTURE OF DIVERSITY COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND GO FOR IT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

I HAD A TALK WITH, WITH, UH, WITH BRIAN REGARDING THE PROCESS.

UM, SO IN GENERAL, UH, UH, ONCE THE COMMISSION MAKES A FORMAL, FORMAL RECOMMENDATION, A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, UH, SHOULD ATTEND THE NEXT, UM, NEXT REGULAR WORK SESSION, UM, TO SHARE THE RECOMMENDATION WITH COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL WILL THEN USE THAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO SCHEDULE THAT RECOMMENDATION AT THE NEXT WORKING, WORKING SESSION.

SO THAT'S ALREADY

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TWO WORKING SESSIONS AND IN WHICH WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN PLANNING, UH, SO AFTER AT LEAST TWO WORKING SESSIONS, UM, AFTER THE COUNCIL, UH, DISCUSSES THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, THE FORMAL ACTION WILL THEN BE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO AT MINIMUM, UM, FOR, FOR PROCESSING, UH, AFTER OUR FORMAL RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION, UH, IT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 25 TO 35 DAYS AT MINIMUM.

UM, AND THE REASON IT'S AT MINIMUM, YOU MAY HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS, INQUIRIES FROM COUNSEL, UH, ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION INVESTIGATOR POINTS TO, TO LOOK INTO, TO, TO KIND OF FILL IN ANY GAPS, KNOWLEDGE GAPS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.

UM, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET A RECOMMENDATION THROUGH, UM, AND, AND LOOKING AT THE COUNSEL'S CALENDAR, UM, SOME OF THE MINDSETS THAT YOU CAN TAKE INTO PLAY IS UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO GET THROUGH TWO WORKING SESSIONS AND AT LEAST ONE CITY COUNCIL SESSION BEFORE IT IS IN FRONT OF CITIES COUNSEL.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROCESS TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA FOR A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL SESSION.

OKAY.

AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ADDITIONAL ACTION CAN COME, CAN TAKE PLACE.

SO THAT'S THE GENERAL, THE GENERAL PROCESS.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH, WITH, WITH THAT.

UH, AND IT'S, IT'S AN EMAIL SO WE CAN GO THROUGH AND THEN JUST GENERALIZE THE MESSAGE PAIN POINTS.

UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT LED ME INTO THE, THE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL ATTACHMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS PROCESSES THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE IMPLEMENTED WITHIN THEIR OWN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

UM, AS, AS THEY GROW, UH, THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT HAVING A FORMAL LETTER OF REPORT, UH, HELPS, UH, PROVIDE, UH, ADDITIONAL KNOWLEDGE, UH, TO PANEL MEMBERS, COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, AS THEY GO THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS AND ALSO INCREASES CREDIBILITY TO THE COMMISSION, UH, THAT WAY, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE RECENTLY PASSED THE PUBLIC HEALTH RESOLUTION, UM, AND REALLY HAPPY THAT WE DID THAT BECAUSE IT SORT OF STRENGTHENED OUR PERSPECTIVE AND OUR UNITY.

I BELIEVE IF WE HAD A REPORT THAT ACCOMPANIED THAT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE REPORT POSSIBLY COULD HAVE STATED, UM, SPECIFIC, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES THAT ARE CALLED OUT BY MONTGOMERY HEALTH COUNTIES, UH, A DEPARTMENT FOR ABLE TO TIE THAT IN, OR PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS WITHIN THE REPORT.

I THINK WE'D BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE AS OURSELVES TO HAVE INFORMATION TO FIGHT BACK OR TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO AREN'T NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE, UH, REGARDING THE ASSOCIATE RECOMMENDS .

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PROCESS THAT I, I BELIEVE THAT CAN PROVIDE CREDIBILITY TO US, UH, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, INFORMATION TO SUPPORT OUR, OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BEGINNING TO END.

UM, SO THAT'S THE REASON IT WAS, IT WAS FIVE PAGES.

IT'S A VERY ROUGH DRAFT, UM, DIFFERENT CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRIES HAVE DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT THEY GO THROUGH FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

HOWEVER, EACH CITY THAT, THAT DOES HAVE SOMETHING, THEY HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS, WHETHER IT BE TWO PARAGRAPHS AT A COMPANY, A LETTER TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, OR A FORMAL REPORT THAT ACCOMPANIES SOME OF THE MORE COMPLEX, UH, OBJECTIVES, UM, THAT CITIES ARE TACKLING.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE FIVE PAGES CAME FROM.

UH, I TRIED TO LIMIT IT, UH, AND I DID LIMIT IT SURPRISE.

NO, YOU DID.

CAN YOU ADD IT INTO OUR GOOGLE DOCS? YEAH.

SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT IT DOES COME WITH A MOTION TO FORMAL.

SO I, I MOVED TO, I WROTE IT DOWN THAT WAY I CAN SAY APPROPRIATELY.

SO I MOVED TO DEVELOP A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION PROCESS THROUGH COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FROM THE COMMISSION.

SO WITH, WITH THAT MOTION ENTAILS US SAYING, HEY, WE WANT SOME TYPE OF PROCESS IN PLAY.

UH, WHETHER IT BE A LETTER TO A REPORT REGARDING, REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS.

UH, SO I JUST THAT'S THAT'S YEAH, TRY.

SO IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECONDARY THAT WE HAVE A, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION WORK ON A PROCESS, UM, FOR OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

OPPOSE NONE.

AND SO ONE THING, UM, ONE THING YOU MAY WANT

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TO CONSIDER IS HAVING A SPECIAL COMMITTEE TO WORK ON THAT.

LIKE, WE NEED ANOTHER ONE, BUT KATIE, NOT A COMMITTEE, NOT, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HIRE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

SO THERE, THERE CAN BE A WORKING COMMITTEE.

UM, THERE COULD ALSO BE, UH, A GOOGLE WORKING DOCS THAT BETTERS THAT'S OUT THERE, UM, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU'RE WITH THE COMFORTABLE AND THE COMFORTABLE, YOUR LEVEL OF COMFORT WITH, WITH, WITH TECHNOLOGY.

I DON'T LIKE GOOGLE DOCS BECAUSE IT CONFUSES ME SOMETIMES.

UM, BUT SO THERE, THERE, THERE CAN BE WORKING GROUP, UM, UH, IF I CAN LEAD THE CHARGE AND TOUCH BASE WITH EVERY SINGLE COMMISSION MEMBER TO GET THEIR INPUT, TO GET A FORMAL DOCUMENT DOWN, OR THAT CAN BE A WORKING GROUP, UM, TO, TO LOOK INTO IT, TO, TO FORMALIZE A PROCESS.

UH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

UM, BUT OVERALL, I THINK MOVING FORWARD TO FORMALIZE THAT RECOMMENDATION PROCESS IS GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY, JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, UM, AS THE FUNDS WORK, UM, AFTER HE AND I HAD TALKED AND HE HAD FORWARDED THAT ON, I HAD SENT THAT DOWN TO THE CLERK OF COUNCIL, UM, AS WELL, AND THIS ALSO APPLIES TO THE, UM, UH, THE SOCIAL MEDIA PROCESS AS WELL, JUST SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE FORMAL POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.

SO YOUR COMMITTEE IS EFFECTIVELY KIND OF LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS.

AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT, UM, THE CLERK DOES INTEND, UH, BASED ON THE WORK THAT, UH, AS THE FUND BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, TO INCORPORATE SOME PROCESS FOR BOTH SOCIAL MEDIA AND, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL WHEN HE UPDATES THE BOARD AND COMMISSION HANDBOOK LATER THIS YEAR.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT SO THAT YOU KNOW HOW TO MANAGE YOUR TIME AND INVESTMENT IN THIS ISSUE APPROPRIATELY, BECAUSE THE CLERK IS GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AND KIND OF GENERALIZE THAT.

SO IT APPLIES TO ALL.

SO, UM, I CAN TELL YOU FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK FROM KATIE'S PERSPECTIVE, WE APPRECIATE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT WE JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, DON'T PUT IN ANY MORE EFFORT THAN IS NECESSARY BECAUSE IN ABOUT SIX MORE MONTHS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROCESS THAT IS PUSHED DOWN UPON YOU.

THAT WILL, WILL LOOK SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO, TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY.

SO JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS WITH REGARDS TO THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS? ALL RIGHT.

SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, THE PERMISSION SOCIAL MEDIA PROCESS.

STEFAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, I, I TH THE, THE, THE REASON I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT SOCIAL MEDIA, IT HAS AVASTIN POT AN IMPACT TO THE WAY THAT, UH, NOT ONLY HOW BC'S OURSELVES, BUT HOW THE COMMUNITY SEES, SEES US AS A COMMISSION, UH, GOING BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS AS A CREDIBILITY THAT WE HAVE AS A NEW COMMISSION, UH, TO, TO REPRESENT NOT ONLY THE CITY, UM, BUT OUR, OUR PASSION FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND, UH, AGAIN, THERE, ISN'T A EXPLICIT POLICY THAT IS DONE FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A GENERAL SENSITIVITY OF, OF SOME, OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE WE'RE DEALING WITH ON ALMOST A DAILY BASIS THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S, THERE CAN BE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SENSITIVE ISSUES, UM, BUT THERE CAN BE, I BELIEVE, A STRATEGIC WAY TO TACKLE THE ISSUES, WHETHER IT BE OFFICERS INVOLVED, SHOOTINGS OF MINORITIES, UM, UH, AND THAT SOURCE OF INFORMATION THAT IT'S COMING FROM.

SO FOR AN EXAMPLE, UM, WE CAN LET DOJ COULD, CAN, UH, PROVIDE AN ASSESSMENT ON THE OFFICERS INVOLVED SHOOTING, RIGHT.

UM, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AN OBJECTIVE PERSPECTIVE ON THE SHEETING, UH, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THEIR NEWS RELEASE IS IT'S ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEWS RELEASE IN COLUMBUS, UH, IN, IN MINNESOTA, ET CETERA, UH, EACH DEPARTMENT HAS A NEWS RELEASE, UM, AND, AND THEY GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS PROCESS IN WHICH ADDRESSES THE ISSUES, BUT THERE ARE ALSO, UH, UH, JOURNALISTIC ENTITIES THAT ALSO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.

UH, AND SOME OF THE WAY THAT NARRATIVES ARE TALKED UPON INSIDE OF THESE, UH, NEWS ARTICLES CAN PROVIDE WELL, CAN SWAY A SPECIFIC

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PERSPECTIVE CAUSE MORE DIVISION, RIGHT? AND I THINK AS A COMMISSION, WE ARE HERE TO RESOLVE THAT DIVISION.

AND I JUST THINK THAT WHEN WE'RE POSTING AND RESPONDING TO THE SENSITIVE ISSUES WE TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, NOT ONLY THE FACTS THAT ARE INSIDE OF THE, THE NEWS ARTICLES THAT WE'RE SHARING, UH, BUT, BUT HOW THESE, HOW CREDIBLE THE FACTS ARE, WHERE THE SOURCE IS COMING FROM.

BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE OPERATING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, THERE ISN'T A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY INTO PLACE.

AND SO WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE GRAY WATER, UM, AND WE'RE RUNNING W W WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED MILES PER HOUR FEELS TO FULL STEAM AHEAD.

AND THAT'S, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, TO, TO, TO, TO BE THE VOICE OF UNITY, UH, WHEN, WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH AND TIMES ARE TOUGH.

AND I JUST PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT WHEN, WHEN, WHENEVER WE'RE POSTING SOCIAL MEDIAS, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA ARTICLES, THAT THAT ARE FROM A JOURNALISTIC PERSPECTIVE, UM, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO, TO, TO, TO, TO HANDLE FOR SOME, FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT IT STILL COULD BE ADDRESSED, UH, FROM A, FROM A CONFIRMED SOURCE OF REVENUE SOURCE.

WHEN, WHEN THAT ISN'T, I MEAN, YOU LOOK ACROSS THE SPECTRUM, UM, AND LOOK AT THE TYPE OF NEWS, THE NEWS ENTITIES OUT THERE, AND YOU HAVE THE FOREIGN RIGHTS IN THE FAR LEFT.

AND, AND I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE SOURCES THAT WE'RE SHARING THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PROVIDING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO THE COMMUNITY IS PROVIDING A, A PERSPECTIVE THAT THAT IS, THAT IS LIKELY GOING TO CAUSE DIVISION, BUT MORE OR LESS LEAN TOWARD UNITY.

SO THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE, AND I I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR GOALS AS WELL.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE A PASSIONATE TOPIC, AND I BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S PASSIONATE BEHIND THIS, THE DIOCESE AND ON THE FLOOR.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE ON, ON HOW, HOW ON SENSITIVE ISSUES, HOW WE, WE CAN ADDRESS OUR PUBLIC SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. I, UM, I, I AGREE WITH YOU AS WHEN I POST I POST LIKE I, HOW I WOULD DO IT AT WORK.

CAUSE WE DO THE SAME THING, VERY SIMILAR, BOTH SENSITIVE THINGS.

AND I HAVE TO BE SURE OF WHO MY SOURCES ARE OF STEP, WHAT I POST ALSO, BECAUSE WE CAN CAUSE, UH, UH, FOR, FOR THE UNIVERSITY.

SO I HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT I POST AS WELL.

SO WHEN WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE RESPONSES, BECAUSE THEY ALSO RESPONSE, THEY ALSO, WE GET SOME VERY CONTROVERSIAL AND TYPE RESPONSES TO WHEN WE POST ABOUT FLYERS OR WHEN WE'RE POSTING PICTURES OF LIKE A REVIEW OF THE RALLIES.

UM, I HAVE EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION THAT I I'VE SENT OUT.

UH, I GAVE EVERYBODY THE ROLE THAT THEY CAN, YOU CAN ADD POSTS, YOU CAN EDIT POSTS, YOU CAN, YOU HAVE FULL ADMINISTRATIVE ACCESS TO THE PAGE, TWITTER.

I'M NOT SO USED TO TWITTER.

SO I HAVEN'T REALLY USED OUR TWITTER ACCOUNT YET, BUT FACEBOOK HAS TENDED TO BE THE MORE ACTIVE ONE.

SO I HAVE EVERYBODY HAS THAT ROLE ON THAT TO POST AND TO EDIT.

AND I ADD TO TURN OFF COMMENTING ON A COUPLE OF THOSE ARE ON ARTICLES BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW MUCH AND I, IT WAS, THEY WERE HANDLED, I THINK PRETTY, PRETTY WELL OF ASKING THEM, LET'S MEET, WE'LL TALK, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO OFFER EDUCATION AND THINGS.

UM, THEY WEREN'T BEING OBVIOUSLY RECEPTIVE ON THE OTHER END AND IT JUST TURNED OUT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE.

SO I ENDED UP MAKING, UM, COMMENTS THAT HAD TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THEY CAN POST.

SO I, I TURNED OFF OUR PAGE NOW HAS TO BE, THEY CAN COMMENT, THEY CAN MESSAGE PRIVATELY AND THEY CAN ALSO COMMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO APPROVE COMMENTS AND POSTING.

NO, WE CAN'T MOVE COMMENTS.

WE CAN, CAN WE HAVE TO PROVE POSTINGS FACEBOOK DOESN'T ALLOW US TO WHAT'S WHAT'S, IT'S ALREADY STARTED TO GO BACK IN AND CHANGE THAT PROCESS, BUT FOR NEW ARTICLES OR NEW POSTINGS, WE, IT DOES IT NOW.

SO, BUT FOR THAT ONE THAT HAS BEEN UP VERSUS I DIDN'T DELETE THE ARTICLE.

UM, CAUSE IT WAS GOOD DISCUSSIONS IN THAT WHOLE THING.

I DIDN'T WANT TO DELETE IT, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO, UM, CENSOR PEOPLE EITHER.

YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO HAVE A SAY, I MEAN, WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THAT, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, WE WANT TO BE UNITY.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE.

UM, THE ONLY ONES I DIDN'T REMOVE WAS ONES.

UM, WE HAD A COUPLE THAT WERE REALLY, UM, EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE AND, AND WAS SLUR.

SO THOSE, THOSE WERE REMOVED.

BUT THOSE OTHER THAN THAT, UM, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.

I, I, FOR ME, HOW I POST IS LIKE, I GO WITH LIKE HOW I WOULD DO AT WORK.

JUST VERY CAREFUL OF KNOWING THAT I'M REPRESENTING

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MY EMPLOYER AND NOT MYSELF.

SO IF IT WAS MYSELF, IT'S A FREE PHONE LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT I WORK ON THE CITIES ON THAT PAGE.

WE'RE REPRESENTING THE CITY ITSELF, NOT JUST OUR, NOT JUST US.

SO I, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME FORMAL THING.

LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, YOU'RE WORKING ON WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONS TO DO SOMETHING ACROSS THE BOARD.

CORRECT.

THAT'S WHAT THE CLERK HAD INDICATED THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO BECAUSE, UM, WE'VE HAD SIMILAR ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO PAGE MANAGEMENT AND PAGE CONTENT AT ALL LEVELS OF THE ORGANIZATION WITH, UH, OTHER BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT'S, THAT'S UNIQUE.

SO IT'S, IT'S TIME TO BRING SOME UNIFORMITY TO IT.

BUT SO WE WOULDN'T NEED TO ADD THIS TO THE WORKING GROUP WITH THE, WITH THE EARLIER AND MAKE IT ONE WORKING GROUP OR SO I THINK THE ONE THING I WANT TO SAY BEFORE YOU GO INTO THAT, MIA IS, UM, I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT AFRAID TO HAVE THE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE BECAUSE THAT GOES BACK INTO THE SILENCE AND THE SENSOR SHIT.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANT US TO MOVE AWAY FROM HAVING THOSE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS.

THERE IS A WAY TO SAY EVERYTHING, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE WILLING TO TELL THE TRUTH.

AND CAN YOU TELL THE TRUTH AND, AND SPEAK UNIFIED? YES, YOU CAN, BUT YOU HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH.

SO WHEN WE'RE POSTING ABOUT DANTE WRIGHT BEING KILLED, OR MCCAYA BRYAN BEING KILLED, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING.

THAT'S THE REALITY.

WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS REAL.

THIS IS HAPPENING.

WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE CITY DO OR US DO IS MOVE AWAY FROM REAL ISSUES AND REAL TOPICS IN REAL CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THEN WHAT'S, WHAT ARE WE REALLY DOING AS A COMMISSION? I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND THE SAME IN THE SAME ASPECT, THERE WERE, THERE WERE THERE THERE'S, THERE'S BLACK TRANSGENDER THAT ARE BEING, BEING KILLED THROUGH HATE CRIMES THAT OCCURRED IN THE SAME MONTH AS APRIL.

AND THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS POSTED ABOUT IT, WASN'T MENTIONED, THE FIRST ONE WAS POSTED ABOUT WAS THIS.

THERE WAS AN EIGHT YEAR OLD GIRL THAT WAS SHOT IN CHICAGO THAT WAS KILLED THROUGH THREE GANG VIOLENCE.

THAT WAS IGNORED AND HAPPENED BEFORE.

AND THE FIRST THING THAT WAS POSTED WAS WAS THIS.

UM, IF YOU'RE, IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL OUT, WE CAN ADDRESS, WE CAN ADDRESS THE DIVISION, BUT FREQUENTLY WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON, ON SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC ISSUES.

THE FACT THAT THOSE KILLINGS WERE GLOSSED OVER THOSE AGAIN WERE, WERE, WERE A COMMISSION OF DIVERSITIES, A DIVERSITY COMMISSION, RIGHT? WHY DIDN'T YOU POST IT? YOU CAN POST IT BECAUSE IT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A DIVISIVE TOPIC.

I'M NOT GOING TO, I'M NOT GOING TO POST ANYTHING FROM A NEWS ARTICLE BECAUSE THAT, THAT INFLAMES, THE, THE ISSUES SURROUNDING IT RIGHT THERE.

WASN'T THERE, THERE, THERE ISN'T, THERE ISN'T, THERE, THERE ARE COMMISSIONED, THERE ARE ENTITIES THAT THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY IN ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE A VOICE LIKE US.

WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE LOOK INTO THOSE ISSUES, THERE, THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A FORMAL REPORT.

THERE, THERE ISN'T THAT THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T ADDRESS IT.

THAT THE ISSUE IS THAT THE, THE, THE, THE ISSUES OF, OF OFFICERS INVOLVED SHOOTINGS OF MINORITIES, I, WE ARE ADDRESSING IT.

I BELIEVE WE CAN ADDRESS IT IN A POSITIVE MANNER.

THERE'S THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ADDRESS THESE ISSUES IN A POSITIVE LIGHT.

WE CAN HAVE THESE TALKS.

WE CAN HAVE THESE REAL TALKS IN A POSITIVE LIGHT.

IF WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION, IF WE'RE SHARING NEG NARRATIVES THAT COME OFF OF THE NEGATIVE CONNOTATION AND TH AND THE ARTICLE IN ITSELF, AND IN ITSELF REFERENCED, REFERENCED RESEARCH THAT WAS DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETING CITIES AND INFLATING.

THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE, THE POINT OF, OF, OF THE, OF, OF THE NEWS ARTICLE, I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT HIM GETTING SHOT WAS, WAS, ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT.

I JUST BELIEVE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

I THINK WE CAN SHARE THE INFORMATION IN A

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POSITIVE MANNER AND THAT NEWS ARTICLE DIDN'T DID IT DO WITH THAT.

HOW CAN WE SHARE COUNTLESS AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALES BEING BRUTALIZED BY POLICE IN A POSITIVE MANNER? AND, AND I, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T, BUT I NEED YOU TO EDUCATE ME ON HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

DOES THE NEWS ARTICLE IS THAT, THAT SPECIFIC NEWS ARTICLE, THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN, DID THE FACTS THAT IT, IT STATED, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU READ IT ENTIRELY, IF YOU INVESTIGATED THE LINKS THAT HE PROVIDED WITHIN, WITHIN THAT, THAT NEWS ARTICLE, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU, IF YOU WENT THROUGH HIS LINCOLN ACCOUNT TO, TO LOOK AT HOW, HOW HIS PREVIOUS WORKS HAVE, HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN STRUCTURED.

SO THE JOURNALIST IN IT HIMSELF PROVIDES HIS, HIS JOURNAL, HIS, HIS JOURNALISM STYLE IN ITSELF CAUSES DIVISION.

IF YOU GO BACK AND READ HIS SPECIFIC STYLES AND HIS, THE WAY HE, THE WAY HE WRITES IT'S IT'S IT'S, AND IT'S, HE HAS A SPECIFIC PASSION ON, ON IT.

AND HE PORTRAYS IT IN A SPECIFIC WAY.

HOW DO WE SHARE THAT IN A POSITIVE LIGHT? THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

NOW.

WE CAN, WE CAN REFERENCE THE NEWS RELEASES FROM THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS UNITS THAT ARE, THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE CAN, WE CAN NOT ONLY BE A, A PROBLEM FINDER, BUT BE A PROBLEM SOLVER IF WE'RE GOING TO, TO, TO POST, UH, UH, UH, KILLINGS.

I, NOT ONLY SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE POST THE, THE REAL, THE, THE REALISM ASSOCIATED WITH THE KILLINGS, BUT WE SHOULD POST HOW WE SHOULD ADDRESS THOSE KILLINGS IN GENERAL, THAT THE POSTS, THE POST IN ITSELF ONLY HIGHLIGHTED THE PROBLEM OFFERED NO SOLUTION.

THAT'S THE POSITIVE ASPECT.

WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE IDENTIFYING THE SOLUTION WITH, WITH NO, WHAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEM WITH NO SOLUTION, THEN W WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE DOING IF WE IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM WITH A SOLUTION, THEN NOT ONLY ARE WE HIGHLIGHTING, HIGHLIGHTING THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING AS A COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE ALSO PUTTING THAT POSITIVE ASPECT ON IT SAYING, HEY, THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACING.

AND THESE ARE THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO GET TO IT.

SO HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU CHANGE SOMETHING NEGATIVE? THE POSITIVE IS, IS PROVIDING A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO, IF YOU AND I, OBVIOUSLY I'VE SPOKEN MANY TIMES ABOUT HOW BEING BLACK AND BROWN IS ONE THING, BUT THEN BEING TRANSGENDER, BEING A LESBIAN, BEING A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY, BEING POOR, BEING FROM A LOW SOCIOECONOMIC CLASS, THERE'S SO MANY LAYERS THAT ARE EMBEDDED IN THERE.

I I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, BUT EVERY ONE OF US BRINGS A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE TO THIS COMMISSION.

I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY.

SO I'M PROBABLY NOT LIKELY TO POST WHAT I AM AS A MOTHER OF A BLACK CHILD, TO BLACK CHILDREN.

AND SO WHEN I SEE MOTHERS WHOSE CHILDREN ARE BEING KILLED AND NOT COMING HOME, THAT RESONATES WITH ME AS A BLACK, AS A BLACK MOTHER.

AND SO WHEN I SEE THAT, REGARDLESS OF HOW IT HAPPENED AS A MOTHER, TO KNOW THAT YOUR CHILD IS NOT COMING HOME, THAT RESONATES WITH ME.

AND SO I'M GOING TO POST, AND I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE A MOTHER HAS LOST A BLACK CHILD WHEN WE HAD THE ASIAN, UH, THE ASIAN STOP, ASIAN HATE RALLY.

IT RESONATED WITH ME MORE BECAUSE I HAVE A FRIEND WHO'S AN ASIAN, I PATRONIZE FRIENDS WHO HAVE ASIAN AMERICAN BUSINESSES.

SO THAT WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT MATTERED TO ME.

I HAVE A, IT RESONATED WITH ME.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO POST POST IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN IGNORE THE ISSUE OF POLICE BRUTALITY.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I KNOW POLICE OFFICERS IN OUR CITY.

THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE AND THEY'RE GREAT POLICE OFFICERS, BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME AROUND THE WORLD THAT AREN'T SO GREAT.

AND THE DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF AFRICAN AMERICAN MALES THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED AT THE HANDS OF POLICE SECURITY GUARDS.

UM, I MEAN, THAT NEEDS TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

YOU CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THAT.

AND I TOTALLY AGREE.

YOU CAN LOOK FOR THE POSITIVE IN IT, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I THINK THE POSITIVE, AND IT IS THE WORK THAT YOUR COMMITTEE IS DOING BY TRYING

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TO REFORM SOME OF THESE WALLS.

BUT I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF POSITIVE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING KILLED AT THE HANDS OF POLICE.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK THERE'S A POSITIVITY.

WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE, I'M SORRY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE SPAN OF HUMAN HISTORY, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN AS A SOCIETY, MORE HEALTHY.

WE HAVE NOT HAD AS WE HAVE.

WE HAVEN'T HAD, WE HAVEN'T LIVED IN A BETTER TIME AND WERE ACCESS TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

RESOURCES HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN AT THE TIGHTEST SINCE, SINCE INCEPTION KILLINGS IN ITSELF FOR A COUNTRY THAT HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO BEAR ARMS, THAT IN ITSELF, MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRIES LESS, LESS, LESS THAN ABOUT, I BELIEVE THREE COUNTRIES STILL HAVE HAD THAT WITHIN THE CONSTITUTION RIGHTS.

I, WE ARE FAR BETTER AS A SOCIETY NOW THAN ANY OTHER TIME.

THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAT WE HAVE, THE ABILITY TO TAP INTO, WE ARE, THINGS ARE BAD, BUT THINGS ARE FAR MORE VETERAN THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST CENTURY.

SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT DISCREDITING THIS CREDITING THE, THE, THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS THAT WE'RE HAVING AS A SOCIETY, BUT WE HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A TIME IN ENTIRE HISTORY WHERE AS A SOCIETY, WE ARE FAR OFF, BETTER THAN WE WERE OFF FROM A DECADE AGO, AS AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE YOU THINK THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO JUST SAY THAT FOR THIS CONVERSATION, WE'RE GOING TO DEVOLVE INTO SOMETHING THAT THIS CONVERSATION IS NOT ABOUT.

UM, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, IN HINDSIGHT, MAYBE MOVING FORWARD, LET'S NOT POST ARTICLES, LESS POSTS.

OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH DANTE, HIS FAMILY WHO LOST A LIFE.

IT IS ANOTHER CHILD THAT LEFT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I FELT THAT THAT IS GASLIGHTING, THE BLACK EXPERIENCE, AND THAT IS GAS LIGHTING, A MAN THAT WAS PUT TO DEATH ON THE PAVEMENT AND CRAWLED OUT FOR HIS MOTHER.

AND AS A MOTHER OF A BLACK CHILD, I WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE IF I THOUGHT THAT MY SON WAS IN A BETTER POSITION IN LIFE IN 2021 THAN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN 1975.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

SO MAYBE I'M, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING PLEASE.

UM, WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS WHAT THIS COMMISSION IS ABOUT, THE TOPICS THAT WE ADDRESS JUST BY AS MOST, AS THEY ARE GOING TO BE CONTRADICTORY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE VIEWED AS DIVISIVE PEOPLE.

IF THEY HEAR THE WORD RACISM, THEY SAY, OH, YOU'RE DIVIDING PEOPLE.

NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS.

I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO USE OUR PAGE TEAR.

I AGREE.

WE WILL JUST POST WORDS, NO ARTICLES, UM, ANYMORE, BUT OUR PAGE IS ALSO A MEANS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE AS WELL.

UM, IT ALSO HELPS US AS A COMMISSION.

SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY REALLY THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, BECAUSE I GOT A DIFFERENT VIEW ON SOME THINGS AFTER READING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE POSTS, I WAS DISAPPOINTED BY SOME OF THE RESPONSES THAT PEOPLE MAY.

UM, SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE, UM, ESTEFAN, YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT WE'RE MUCH BETTER OFF AGAIN, THAT DEPENDS ON WHOSE VIEW YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM WHAT LENS, WHAT FRAME OF REFERENCE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM.

UM, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR COMMISSION PURPOSE IS TO REALLY HELP PEOPLE TO SEE THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT LENS.

SO WHAT SOME OF US MET YOU AS WE'RE, WE'RE MUCH BETTER OFF THAN WE WERE BEFORE WE HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE.

WELL, NOT ALL OF US HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE AND NOT ALL OF US HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, OR THAT'S BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SLAPPED WITH A FELONY OR WHATEVER.

THERE'S SO MANY EMBEDDED SYSTEMIC THINGS.

UM, AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO BRING ABOUT AN EDUCATION, TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS, UM, AND EVEN TO HAVE IT IN OUR COMMISSION, BUT THANK YOU, TARA, FOR BRINGING IT BACK DOWN, WE WILL LEAVE THE WORDS, WORDS ONLY TO THE POLLS.

THE CITY WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH PUTTING TOGETHER A SOCIAL MEDIA RESPONSE PLATFORM, UM, FROM TONY, WE'LL LEAVE THAT TO THEM.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT

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WE CAN AGREE THAT WE WILL JUST USE WORDS, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT AS THE FINDING YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO POSE, UM, MIA HAS, AS SHE SAYS, YOU CHANGED SOME THINGS SO THAT PEOPLE, WE CAN KIND OF MONITOR THAT BETTER.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT IN PLACE NOW.

UM, I THINK WE ADDED SOME WORDING ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE TO KIND OF CAVEAT WHAT THIS PAGE IS FOR.

IF YOU ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE A MEMBER OF PAGE.

UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE TAKEN THE NECESSARY STEPS TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME ABOUT FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE POSTS THAT WE HAD, UM, I CAN GIVE FOR FOUR BULLET, AND THIS IS AVA, AVA.

UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UM, I JUST, I COULD UNDERSTAND, UM, TOTALLY WHERE ESTEBAN IS COMING FROM ON POSTING THE SUBJECT WISE.

I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE NEEDED TO CHECK OUR SOURCES THAT WE ALSO POST CAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE NOT ACCURATE.

NOT ALL MEDIA IS TOTALLY ACCURATE, BUT CONTINUE TO POST EDUCATED.

LIKE WE GET, UH, INFOGRAPHIC ON RAMADAN, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE, WE PUSH FORWARD TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON THIS AND USE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS SUCH AS WE'RE HAVING OUR RALLY FOR GEORGE FLOYD, OR WE'RE WANTING TO REFORM, UM, MEETING THE COMMUNITY AND USE THAT, UH, THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND EXPLAIN THIS WHY, AND USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY ON OUR PAGE TO EDUCATE.

SO I HAVE NOT FOR HAVE NOT, LET'S NOT POST ANY OF THAT STUFF BECAUSE WE NEED, THAT'S NOT THE COMMISSION WE'RE EDUCATING, BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE, UM, WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE ARTICLES BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE NOT ACCURATELY PORTRAYING OR WRITTEN OR SO, YOU KNOW, BUT I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE DON'T STICK STEER FROM CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES OR WHAT COULD BE HOT TOPICS BECAUSE THAT'S THE POINT OF EDUCATING IS TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND WE CAN SET ON GUIDELINES.

UM, YOLANDA, I WILL SEND YOU, UM, OUR GUIDELINES WE USE AT WORK THAT WE TELL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMENTING THAT THIS IS HOW THIS PAGE WILL RAN.

AND IF YOU VIOLATE THESE GUIDELINES, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR POSTS REMOVED AND, OR YOU CAN BE BANNED FROM THAT PAGE AND, YOU KNOW, REMOVED FROM THAT PAGE.

SO, AND IT'S BASICALLY, UH, NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, NO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BE CIVIL WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING THAT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY YOU HAVE TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CIVIL ABOUT IT.

SO I CAN SEND YOU THAT.

WE CAN PUT SOME KIND OF A PIN POST TO ALL OUR, TO ANYBODY WHO POSTED ON THAT PAGE.

AND THIS IS OUR GUIDELINES OF THIS PAGE.

AND WE ASKED YOU TO FOLLOW THAT TO BE COURTEOUS AND BE RESPECTFUL, UM, BUT HAVE A DISCUSSION.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP HIM FROM HAVING A DISCUSSION.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE YOU DO THAT.

SO THANK YOU, MS. NEWBIE.

YES.

I HAD NO INTENTIONS.

I JUST CAME TO OBSERVE AND SAY THAT I WAS SUPPORT.

BUT FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS EVA NEWBIE.

I HAVE A WORD RESIDE AND WHO BEHIND SINCE 1990.

SO I'VE SEEN A LOT.

I AM OBSERVING.

I'M NOT ONE TO GO AGAINST ANYTHING.

I SUPPORT WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S DOING.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A LOT MORE CITIZENS COME AND SUPPORT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT.

THIS COMMISSION IS NOT GOING TO SURVIVE.

NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO IN OBSERVING AND READING STUFF.

UM, EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL COME WITH A GOOD EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE, BUT SOMETIME WE BE SO ADAMANT ABOUT STUFF.

AND WE ON THESE COMMISSION, WE LET OUR PERSONAL EMOTIONS GET INVOLVED.

OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND HOW WE FEEL ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.

BUT AS A CITY IN THE HUBER HEIGHTS, YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT SAID THAT YOU WAS AT THE POLLS ON TUESDAY.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS COMMISSION.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TALKING IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I AM IN INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY IN A NEGATIVE WAY.

SOME CITIZENS BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS JUST PUT THIS COMMISSION JUST CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF GEORGE FOR ALL THE INCIDENT.

OKAY.

AND ONCE THE ELECTIONS OF THE MAYOR THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE RESOLVED, REGARDLESS OF WE HAVE A COMMISSION OR NOT, GOSH, WE HAVE THIS COMMISSION OR NOT.

WE NEED AS CITIZENS THAT WE PAY TAXES.

WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT ALL GOING TO AGREE ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS CITY.

WE CAN DISAGREE, AGREE TO BE DISAGREEABLE.

OKAY? BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THE CONCEPTS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY.

WHILE WE ARGUING ABOUT WHAT'S ON FACEBOOK, EVERYBODY'S GOING CONCERN WITH FACEBOOK.

KIDS ARE NOT GETTING TO COLLEGE BECAUSE OF THINGS THEY POSTED ON FACEBOOK AS A COMMISSION.

OKAY.

I

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CAME HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE LAWS THAT COLUMBUS IS FROM THE PAST.

THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS CITY.

WE'RE GONNA LOSE AS A CONGRESS SEAT IN SEPTEMBER.

OKAY.

HB 22.

YOU MENTIONED, UH, RHONDA ABOUT GOING, HAVING A PEACEFUL PROTEST, PLEASE CHECK OUT HB 22.

OKAY.

THIS IS THE YEAR.

THIS WEEK IS A YEAR OF KIDS.

SOME OF YOU ALL WASN'T BORN WITH KENT STATE RIOTS HAPPEN, BUT THIS IS THE ANNIVERSARY OF KENT STATE.

OKAY.

AND WE KNOW THINGS CAN BE PEACEFUL, THEN THEY CAN GO ON PEACEFUL.

OKAY.

HB 22 IS GOING TO TAKE OUR RIGHTS TO ASSEMBLE.

YEP.

OKAY.

SO WHAT I WAS COMING HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT, CAUSE I BELONG TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT AS A COMMISSION, SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE ON HERE LOOKING AT THE OKAY.

AND, AND BE A WOMAN.

SO WHEN THESE BILLS COME UP AND WE START RIGHT NOW, MEN'S AS SENATORS.

THEY WORK FOR THE CITY.

OKAY.

AND THEN CAN TALK ABOUT POLICE REFORM.

POLICE REFORM IS ONE ANOTHER ONE.

OH, HOW ON THE PART OF IT TO ME, I'VE READ.

I LOOKED AT AND LOOKED AT EVERYTHING YOU ALL ARE DOING, BUT IT, IT, IT BAFFLES ME FROM WHAT THE INFANCY OF THIS COMMISSION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TO WHAT IS WE WANT TO BE WHEN IT STARTED OUT TO BE, I BELIEVE IN HAVING FESTIVALS AND PARTYING WITH THE PURPOSE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOME CHANGES AND, AND MAKE ELECTED OFFICIALS UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A VOICE.

AND WHAT IF, IF WHAT'S, IF OUR AGENDAS NOT ON THOSE OFFICIALS MINDS, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHY.

OKAY.

AND I'M SEEING IN HUBER, DIRT IS A DIVIDE AND PEOPLE, OR TRYING TO MAKE THIS COMMISSION TO BE NEGATIVE.

OKAY.

IT WASN'T A BLACK, WHITE THING, BUT PEOPLE THINK IT'S ONLY, THIS HAPPENS.

COMMISSION IS BECAUSE OF THE BLACK FOLK.

IT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF US OVER HERE THAT LOOKED LIKE US WHEN WE STAYED IN THE BACKGROUND.

BUT IT AIN'T ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HUMAN TO ME IS A MILITARY COMMITTEE.

IT HAS BEEN FOR YEARS.

SO WE NEED TO NOT LET OUR EMOTIONS GET IN THEM.

BOB.

I KNOW YOU'RE VERY AVID AND I RESPECT THAT.

BUT SOMETIME YOU GOT TO KNOW WINTER, IF I, AND WHEN NOT TO.

OKAY.

AND BY YOU FIGHTING AMONG YOU, I'M SEEING, THERE'S NOT A GRIMACE ABOUT WHEN YOU FIGHTING AGAINST YOURSELF, IT'S JUST LIKE A FISH.

IF IT'S SEPARATED, THEY CAN GET THROUGH.

BUT IF YOU BALL UP YOUR FIST TOGETHER, AS ONE, THEY CAN'T COME THROUGH AS THIS COMMISSION, WE NEED THIS COMMISSION.

WE'VE BEEN NEEDING IT HERE, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.

OKAY.

AND WHEN YOU GATHER LIKE THIS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DISAGREE, DISAGREE OUTSIDE, THEY COME IN HERE.

AND LIKE, YOU DIDN'T KNOW, BUT THIS IS AMAZING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY GOD TOLD ME TO COME HERE TONIGHT.

BUT I SAID, I'M GONNA GO SEE WHAT THE COMMISSIONER IS DOING.

YOU ALL GOT AND WE GOT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.

I'M NOT ON THIS COMMISSION.

DON'T NEVER WANT ME KNOW.

BUT WE, AS A CITIZEN GALLERY WORK AND YOU GOT TO INFORM US OF A LOT OF SYSTEMS. DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS COMMISSION IS ABOUT.

OKAY.

THEY JUST GOT THE PERCEPTION.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AROUND HERE TALK, WELL, THIS AIN'T NOT THIS.

CAUSE THE BLACK LIVES MATTER THING.

SO THEY HAD TO COME.

SOME OF THE CITY COMMISSION DIDN'T WANT TO SAY NO, THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY UP FOR REELECTION.

THEY DON'T WANT THEM TO, OH, THEY'RE AGAINST THIS.

IT'S NOT, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

AND WE HAVE TO COME THERE AS CITIZENS.

OKAY.

IT NEEDS TO BE ADVERTISED.

IT SHOULDN'T, IT SHOULDN'T PEOPLE HERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS OUT THERE, BUT WE TALK AMONG OURSELVES.

OKAY.

AND OR THIS, THIS COMMISSION IS NOT GOING TO SURVIVE.

IF WE DON'T WORK TO COLLECT WITH THE CILIATES THE CITIZENS AND LET THEM BE INFORMED AND GET THAT NEGATIVE MINDSET THAT SOME OF THE CITIZENS HAVE YOU AREN'T WASTING YOUR TIME.

AND THAT'S ALL I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO SAY, BECAUSE WE CAN FIGHT YOU.

YOU YOUNG MAN, YOU YOUNG.

AND I WAS OVER THERE SAYING, BLESS YOUR HEART.

THAT IF YOU FEEL THAT THINGS HAVE IMPROVED, HEY, I'M OLD.

OKAY.

AND I'VE SEEN IT.

I'VE SEEN IT IN HUBRIS WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE.

SO, BUT THE THING I'VE TRIED TO GET, AND THEN I'M GOING TO SAY IS THAT YEAH, LIFE IS NOT FAIR.

LIFE WAS NEVER GOING TO BE FAIR TO FEMALES, PEOPLE OF COLOR, BUT DOES A WAY WE HAVE TO GO AROUND.

WE CAN FIGHT IT,

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BUT WE WILL HAVE TO FIGHT IT COLLECTIVELY.

AND WE CANNOT LET OUR EMOTIONS GET INVOLVED WHEN WE POST STUFF, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY GET YOU.

YOU KNOW? SO WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE IN, THAT'S FINE.

I RESPECT THAT.

BUT AS A COMMISSION, YOU ALL GOT TO WORK COLLECTIVELY AND DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS OR WHAT YOU FEEL.

OKAY.

I'M A SEVENTIES KID.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE IN PROTEST.

I BELIEVE IN EVERYTHING, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A TIE AND A PLACE AND WE HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE, COLLECTIVELY THE WORK ON WHAT WE WANT.

WHAT IS IT THAT THIS COMMISSION REALLY WANT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIST TO DO.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO WORK ON WITH ARE REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENCES.

BUT YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT IS THIS? OKAY.

I RESPECT EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO.

BUT JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING AMONG YOURSELF.

WORK AS A TEAM.

AND RIGHT NOW I SEE THERE'S THERE'S EIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE NOT, YOU W YOU AS A COMMISSION, NOT GOING TO GET A LOT OF STUFF'S RESOLVED ON EVERYTHING.

I'M ON A COMMISSION.

I DON'T AGREE EVERY TIME, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BETTER, THE CITY AND WE WANT, WE WANT, AND I SPEAK FOR ABOUT 75 PEOPLE.

THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

WE WANT A POSITIVE PUPIL HEIGHTS.

WE WANT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME HERE.

WHEN THEY COME FROM THE BASE TO MOVE AND WHO BEHINDS.

LOOK, THAT'S ANOTHER THING YOU ALL NEED TO LOOK AT.

WHAT IS THE STATISTICS OF PEOPLE MOVING HERE? OKAY.

PEOPLE WOULD TELL PEOPLE DON'T MOVE TO HUBER HEIGHTS.

WE DON'T, WE NEED TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW, MOVE SOUTH OF THE BAY.

SO WE NEED TO, WHAT IS THE POSITIVE THINGS WE WANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT HUMAN, HOW HUBER HEIGHTS, AND BE PROUD OF THAT.

THEY WANT TO COME OVER HERE AND, AND BE WITH US.

WE'RE A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY, PROBABLY ONE, THE DIVERSITY COMPARED TO OTHER ONES.

SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT.

WE NEED TO KEEP THAT AND WORK TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY.

AND HOW DID DISAGREEMENTS DISAGREE? THEN LEAVE, HAVE A BEER, CUSS PEOPLE OUT, CAUSE EACH OTHER OUT, BUT COME BACK AS ONE.

AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

THAT'S WHY I WANT TO SPEAK.

I'M SAYING I SAW YOU GETTING FINNA GET EMOTIONAL.

OKAY.

AND I GO, UH, YOU KNOW, DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET IN THE BALL BECAUSE THEN THAT'S A WEAKNESS AS COMMISSIONED, DO NOT SHOW YOUR WEAKNESS WORK AS A TEAM.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU, MRS. NEWBIE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

UM, WITH SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING, MADAM CHAIR, A SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

IS MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.

IT IS EIGHT 49.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.