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OKAY,

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WE ARE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION.

AND CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DR.

REGAN'S PRESENT MS. HONAKER, MS. NEWBY PRESENT MS. PURVIS, MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON, MR. STEVENS, MS. STEVE, MS. STEPHENS PRESENT THIS SUMMER.

OKAY, PERFECT.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF THE DECENT, THE THIRD MINUTES.

DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, CHANGES TO THE MINUTES AND AMENDMENTS TO THE, THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR DECEMBER 3RD MEETING? MADAM CHAIR? YES, I DO HAVE SOME, UM, CHANGES TO THE MINUTES.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

FIRST CHANGE ON PAGE TWO, UNDER NUMBER FOUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

I DO SEE THAT MR. ERIC STEVEN'S NAME IS MISSPELLED.

I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE E R I C.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE OTHER CHANGE YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.

AND THE OTHER CHANGE IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH WHERE IT SAYS MR. JANE NEWBIE, FASCIA BEING MISSED INSTEAD, MR. THE NEXT CHANGE IS ON PAGE THREE, THE FIRST PARAGRAPH AND THE SECOND TO THE LAST LINE AGAIN, MR. STEVENS.

FIRST NAME IS MISSPELLED.

IT SHOULD BE E R I C.

AND AGAIN, ON THE SAME PAGE, THE LAST PARAGRAPH, THE SECOND SENTENCE AGAIN, MR. STEVEN'S NAME SHOULD BE SPELLED E R I C AND MY FINAL, UM, CORRECTION.

IT'S JUST AN OVERALL, UM, QUESTION.

AND IN TERMS OF CONSISTENCY, AS AN EXAMPLE ON PAGE THREE, THE LAST PARAGRAPH WHERE IT STARTS BY SAYING CHAIR, YOLANDA STEPHENS, SO FORTH AND SO FORTH, WE SEE WHERE A COMMISSION MEMBER HAD MADE A COMMENT ABOUT A PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

BUT IF YOU GO TO THE FOURTH SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS ONE MEMBER, IS THERE A REASON WHY THE PARTICULAR MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY NOT BE STATED WAS THAT MISSED BY CHANCE? WE CAN GO BACK AND ADD NAMES.

I CAN HAVE HER DO THAT.

OKAY.

AND THAT IS SHOWN SEVERAL TIMES, UM, THROUGHOUT THESE MINUTES WHERE YOU WILL SEE EITHER ONE MEMBER OR THREE MEMBERS.

SO JUST FOR CONSISTENCY AND FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. NEWBIE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? NO ADDITIONAL, NO CORRECTIONS.

OKAY.

DO WE, UM, COUGH OR APPROVE OF THE MINUTES AS REFLECTED WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT MS. NEWBY BROUGHT FORTH? MS. NEWBIE? YES.

YEAH.

MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON, MR. STEVENS.

MS. STEVENS.

YES.

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MS. SOMEONE? YES.

DR.

AKINS.

YES.

MISS HONAKER.

SORRY.

OKAY.

I WASN'T IN FAVOR THAT THE MINUTES WILL BE, ARE APPROVED.

THE CHANGES AS BROUGHT FORTH.

YOU WANT TO MOVE ON TO OLD BUSINESS.

UH, WE HAVE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AS OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS TONIGHT UNDER OLD BUSINESS.

AND WE HAVE A FEW VISITORS WITH US TONIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE MR. COLTON ELEY FROM THE MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE HAVE TIME.

AND IS SARAH AT ONE AS WELL? YEAH, I'M HERE.

OKAY.

AND SIERRA, UM, FROM THIS, FROM THE CITY, SHE'S OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALISTS.

UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN ASKED TO JOIN TONIGHT TO KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, INFORMATION IN TERMS OF A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

NOW, UM, MR. SCHAKOWSKY BROUGHT UP THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER LAST IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT MR. ELEY IS WORKS FOR THE MIAMI VALLEY REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, AS A MR. AILEY, WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR ACTUAL TITLE? I DON'T WANT TO BOTCH IT.

RE SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

UH, I AM THE REGIONAL EQUITY INITIATIVE MANAGER.

OKAY.

UM, AND SO HE JOINED THE MIAMI VALLEY REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IN AUGUST.

OKAY.

UM, AND SO HE IS WORKING WITH THE NV RPC ON EQUITY INITIATIVES.

AND SO WE HAVE HIM TONIGHT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE DOES, UM, AND FOR YOU ALL TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR HIM, WE THOUGHT THAT HE MAY BE A GOOD SOURCE OF INFORMATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE MAY NEED TO UTILIZE FOR THAT AND BUILDING AN RFQ FOR THAT AS WELL.

SO WE'LL START WITH MR. ELEY.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE TOM ON WITH US ALSO.

AND TOM, YOU TELL ME THE NAME OF YOUR AGENCY, THE IMPACT, THE IMPACT GROUP AND SARAH, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST.

SO WE'LL START WITH MR. ELEY.

OKAY.

SO YOLANDA, DO YOU HAVE THE SLIDES THAT I SHARED EARLIER TODAY OR? I DO NOT HAVE SLIDES.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

DID YOU SEND ME SLIDES? WELL, I SENT THEM TO BRIAN.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO SHARE MY SCREEN OR HOW YOU'D LIKE TO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN, YOU HAVE RIGHTS TO DO THAT.

I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING FOR YOU TO DO THAT.

UM, I DON'T USE THIS PARTICULAR PLATFORM THAT OFTEN HAVE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO SHARE MY STORY.

SO IF YOU SEE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, YOU SHOULD SEE LITTLE DOTS, SOMEWHAT I'M ON MY IPAD.

SO CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE LAPTOP? ARE YOU ON THE LAPTOP, MR. ELEY? NO, I'M ON A DESKTOP.

A DESKTOP.

OKAY.

UH, THREE DOTS.

WHERE, WHEN YOU HOVER OVER IT, IT SAYS MORE ACTIONS.

I THINK IT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

UM, ACTUALLY IF YOU GO TO THE SQUARE WITH THE ARROW POINTING UP RIGHT NEXT TO THE RED LEAVE BUTTON, THAT'S THE SHARE SCREEN BUTTON.

OKAY.

I SEE.

I SEE WHICH ONE DO I PUSH ON AND PUSH ON THE SQUARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE LEAVE BUTTON WITH THE UP ARROW IN IT.

THAT'S UPLOAD YOUR SCREEN ICON.

OKAY.

SCREEN NUMBER ONE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE, DO YOU SEE MY SCREEN NOW? OKAY.

I'M JUST OPENING UP THE SLIDES NOW.

UH, DO YOU SEE THE FIRST SLIDE? YES.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE.

AND, UH, BRIAN CONTACTED ME ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO.

UM, AND THEY SAID THAT IT'D BE FIVE FOR ME TO MAYBE OFFER REMARKS AND ABOUT 20 MINUTES.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T BE A DISTRACTION, UH, YOLANDA, IF I NEED TO SHORTEN MY REMARKS, JUST LET ME KNOW.

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OKAY.

OKAY.

WE WANT TO LEAVE SOME TIME TO, FOR, UM, THE FOUR QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE FOR YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY, GOOD.

UH, BUT YEAH, IT WAS, UH, BRIAN, UH, TO KOSKI WHO INVITED ME TO, UH, OFFER REMARKS, UH, AS YOLANDA ALREADY INDICATED, I WORKED FOR THE MIAMI VALLEY REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, WE'RE ONE OF THE 400 METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS IN THE NATION, WHICH ENCOURAGE REGIONAL COOPERATION AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

AND ALSO WE'RE ONE OF THE 500, UH, REGIONAL COUNCILS, UH, THAT WORKED TO FACILITATE REGIONAL COOPERATION AS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, ADVANCED THEIR COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OBJECTIVES.

UH, LAST JANUARY, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAME THE HOME FOR A REGIONAL EQUITY INITIATIVE, AND THIS IS A BOLD COMMITMENT, UH, TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE.

UH, IT'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY INVOLVING MULTIPLE PARTNERS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT REPRESENTS THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS OF THE PLANNING PROFESSION AS WELL AS PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.

AND I WAS ASKED TO OFFER A BRIEF OVERVIEW ON NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

UH, THIS EVENING, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE JUST TO TAKE ROUGHLY ABOUT 18 OR SO MINUTES TO OFFER SOME COMMENTARY ON THE TOPIC FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR GROUP, AS WELL AS TO OFFER JUST A HIGHER LEVEL OVERVIEW ON THE PROCESS.

UH, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE USEFUL FOR YOU.

SO, AS I INDICATED EARLIER IN AUGUST, THE MAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, HIRED ME TO SERVE AS THEIR REGIONAL EQUITY INITIATIVE MANAGER.

AND AS MANAGER, MY DUTIES ARE TO LEAD DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF EQUITY INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT THE MIAMI VALLEY IN COLLABORATION WITH REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.

UH, THEY'RE ROUGHLY ABOUT 85, UH, MEMBER PARTNERS WITHIN THE MIAMI VALLEY REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SOVOS SERVE ON THE BOARD.

AND WITH OTHER STRATEGIC PARTNERS, I ACCEPTED THIS POSITION BECAUSE IT GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WORKING AND HELPING INSTITUTIONS TO EXPAND THEIR SOCIALIZATION BOUNDARIES.

UH, WHEN I WORKED FOR THE U S ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, I ACTUALLY CREATED A MANAGED A PORTFOLIO ON THE TOPIC OF EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT.

AND I MANAGED THAT FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS.

SO IF YOU ACTUALLY TYPE THE TERM EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT, A WEB BROWSER, UH, THE FIRST REFERENCE THAT WILL, UH, APPEAR IS ACTUALLY, UH, THE LANDING PAGE ON THE TOPIC FOR EPA IS OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

UH, ALSO, UH, PRIOR TO RESIGNING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, I ACTUALLY WROTE A PLANNING ADVISORY SERVICE MEMO THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION FOR THE BENEFIT OF HIS 40,000 MEMBERS.

AND THAT MEMO HELPED TO RE-ENERGIZE APA FOCUS ON EQUITY AND PLANNING.

SO AGAIN, A LOT OF MY WORK WITHIN THE PAST 10 YEARS HAS FOCUSED ON HELPING INSTITUTIONS TO EXPAND THEIR SOCIALIZATION BOUNDARIES, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE INSTITUTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD OR A HISTORY OF REALLY WORKING ON THE ISSUE OF EQUITY, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT PUBLIC PRIORITY.

I JUST WANT TO START BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE PRACTICE OF PLANNING IS NOT BASED ON A STATIC MODEL, UH, IRREGULARLY ADAPTS TO NEW TRENDS, OPPORTUNITIES, AND CHALLENGES.

IN FACT, WE RISK STIFLING, BOTH THE SKILLS DEVELOPMENT OF PUBLIC SERVANTS AND THE SERVICE DELIVERY OF PUBLIC ORGANIZATIONS.

WHEN WE SUBSCRIBE TO NARROW SOCIALIZATION, BOUNDARIES NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS NOT A NEW TOOL.

HOWEVER, IT REPRESENTS ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS NEED TO EMBRACE, UH, GIVING THE INCREASING INTEREST IN ADVANCING EQUITY WITHIN COMMUNITIES.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I HAVE THIS SLIDE REPRESENTED, UH, IN 2008, POLICY LANGUAGE IS ONE OF THE NATION'S LEADING PROPONENTS FOR EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT, HAD THEIR EQUITY SUMMIT, AND IT EXCEEDED 4,000 ATTENDEES.

AND I LIKE NUMBERS LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT SENDS A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE ABOUT PENT UP DEMAND.

AND SO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE THE OPTION OF BECOMING MORE PROFICIENT AND THE PRACTICE OF NEEDS ASSESSMENT OR CITIZENS WILL TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO CONDUCT THESE TYPES OF ASSESSMENTS THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY EXPECT MORE OUT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

UH, ONE OF THE LEADERS WHO I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR WHO IS OUTPERFORMING, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO NEEDS, ASSESSMENT IS ACTUALLY CHANCY MARCH REL IN 1992, CHANCY WAS A STUDENT AT UCLA AROUND THE TIME OF THE LA CIVIL UNREST.

AND AS SHE SAW THIS UNFOLD, UH, IN LOS ANGELES, CHANCY REALIZED AT THE THAI POPULATION IN LOS ANGELES WAS LESS VISIBLE AS AN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY.

AND AS A COMMUNITY, SHE SAW THAT THEY HAD NEEDS THAT WEREN'T BEING ADDRESSED.

AND SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF, UH, UNREST THAT WAS HAPPENING COULD JUST AS EASILY HAPPEN WITHIN THE THAI COMMUNITY IF THEY WERE RENDERED INVISIBLE.

SO AS A GRADUATE STUDENT, SHE PREPARED A LANDMARK COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE THAI COMMUNITY.

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AND OVER THE SPAN OF 20 YEARS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS ASSESSMENT HAVE ACTUALLY CASCADED AND TO MANY OUTCOMES, INCLUDING THE CREATION OF THAI COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CENTER AND THE DESIGNATION OF THAI TOWN IN LOS ANGELES AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR MODEL, I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT THERE IS A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE.

I'VE KNOWN CHANCEY SINCE 2015.

SHE REGULARLY LECTURES, UH, AROUND THE COUNTRY ABOUT HER ORGANIZATION AND THE PROJECTS THAT THEY DO, THE IMPACT THAT THEY'RE MAKING.

AND ALTHOUGH SHE'S BUILT HER CAREER AROUND THE ACT OF HAVING CONDUCTED A LANDMARK NEEDS ASSESSMENT, I ASKED HER WHETHER OR NOT WHEN SHE'S FREQUENTLY DOING THESE SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS, WHETHER OR NOT SHE'S OFFERED REMARKS ABOUT THE PROCESS.

AND SURPRISINGLY, SHE SAID, NO, UH, MOST OF HER AUDIENCES WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE RESULTS OF HER ORGANIZATION RATHER THAN THE PROCESS THAT'S FACILITATED THEM.

AND IN MY OPINION, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE GREAT COMMUNITY OUTCOMES ARE NOT THE RESULT OF SERENDIPITY.

ANOTHER MODEL THAT I JUST WANT TO REFERENCE IS ACTUALLY THE CARE MODEL, UH, CARE ACTUALLY REFERS TO COMMUNITY ACTION FOR RENEWED ENVIRONMENT.

UH, THIS MODEL WAS CREATED IN 2005, UH, BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.

IT WAS BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT CITIZENS TRULY ARE THE EXPERTS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEN YOU LISTEN CAREFULLY, CITIZENS WILL ACTUALLY TELL YOU WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE.

AND ALSO CITIZENS ARE MORE LIKELY TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF SOLUTIONS IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY'VE BEEN HEARD.

AND SO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM WAS CREATED AS A GRANT INITIATIVE THAT OFFERED LEVEL ONE GRANTS FOR ISSUE IDENTIFICATION, LEVEL TWO GRANTS FOR IMPLEMENTATION.

THE PROGRAM WAS VERY EFFECTIVE FOR HELPING COMMUNITIES THAT MAY HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CONCERNS TO CONDUCT VISIONING EXERCISES, TO IDENTIFY NEEDS THAT NEEDED TO BE TARGETED, TO ENCOURAGE COLLABORATION WITH MULTI-LEVEL PARTNERS, UH, TO REDUCE POLLUTION IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO ACHIEVE MEASURABLE RESULTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE FUNDING AND THE CARE PROGRAM WAS ZEROED OUT IN 2011.

HOWEVER MANY PROGRAM DOCUMENTS STILL EXIST.

THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE ONLINE, INCLUDING THE ONE THAT'S FEATURED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE.

SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF TOOLS THAT CAN ALSO HELP YOU AS YOU HAVE THIS EXPLORATION ON THE TOPIC OF NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

ANOTHER MODEL THAT I WANT TO INTRODUCE BRIEFLY IS ACTUALLY THE COLLABORATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING MODEL.

THIS ONE IS STILL IN USE.

UH, EPA LEARNED VERY EARLY THAT MANY COMMUNITIES THAT MAY HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CONCERNS ARE, ARE DEALING WITH CHALLENGES THAT ARE DEEPLY ROOTED, AND THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO RESOLVE WITHOUT EFFORT AS WELL AS THE ACTIVE PARTICIPATION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS.

SO THE FRAMEWORK FOR MODEL WAS ACTUALLY BASED ON SEVEN ELEMENTS BASED ON THE ONES THAT ARE PROJECTED, ONE OF WHICH IS ACTUALLY ISSUE IDENTIFICATION.

AND I REALIZED THAT THE ENVIRONMENT WASN'T NECESSARILY CALLED OUT IN TERMS OF THE FOCAL AREAS OF THE CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION.

HOWEVER, THE MODEL, UH, COULD BE TRANSFERABLE FOR, UH, YOUR BENEFIT.

ALSO A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS, UH, THAT HAD VERY MODEST BEGINNINGS THAT ARE USING THESE TWO PARTICULAR APPROACHES ARE ACTUALLY CELEBRATE IT NOW AS NATIONAL EXAMPLES OF COMMUNITY DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, HAROLD MITCHELL, WHO WAS REFERENCED ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, UH, IS THE FOCUS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COLLABORATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING MODEL THAT I JUST INTRODUCED AS A COMMUNITY BUILDER.

HE HAS ACTUALLY LEVERAGED $300 MILLION AND COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT IN SPARTANBURG, SOUTH CAROLINA, CAROLINA MARTINEZ IS FEATURED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE.

AND SHE'S A LAND USE POLICY MANAGER FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION, WHICH IS BASED IN CALIFORNIA, UH, MUCH OF HER WORK, UH, THAT FALLS UNDER HER PORTFOLIO ACTUALLY STARTED AS A COMMUNITY HEALTH SURVEY FOR RESIDENTS IN NATIONAL CITY.

SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION, JUST FOR YOUR BENEFIT IS ONE OF THE COMMUNITY NONPROFITS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE CARE PROGRAM WHEN IT WAS ACTIVE, TRYING TO ADVANCE MY SLIDES.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE GO.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT WHEN BRIAN, UH, CONTACTED ME A FEW WEEKS AGO, I WAS TRANSPARENT WITH HIM.

UM, I SAID THAT ACTUALLY PERSONALLY, I'VE NEVER CONDUCTED A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I LACK AN APPRECIATION OF THE APPROACH.

UH, MY UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE IS IN SOCIAL WORK AND I'VE WORKED ON THE TOPIC OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND EQUITY OVER THE SPAN OF ROUGHLY ABOUT 20 YEARS.

AND SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS I STRIVE TO BE A GOOD LISTENER WHEN I ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, I RESIST THE URGE TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS, I BELIEVE, AND GIVING DEFERENCE TO LOCAL KNOWLEDGE.

I REALIZED THAT UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS HAVE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND WE SHOULDN'T TRIVIALIZE THEM.

AND FINALLY, I BELIEVE, UH, THAT THE PROCESS

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IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE OUTCOME.

AND SO THESE ARE VALUES THAT ARE REALLY AT THE CORE OF NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

OKAY.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO TRANSITION AND JUST OFFER A QUICK OVERVIEW ON THE PROCESS OF CONDUCTING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

UH, THE SLIDES MAY BE STUCK.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I'M GOING TO CONTINUE ANYWAY.

UH, THE FIRST POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS THERE ARE MANY MODELS, UH, CONCERNING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AS AN APPROACH.

AND MY ADVICE TO YOU AS A GROUP IS TO NOT GET OVERWHELMED, UH, BY THE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT MODELS.

UH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HIRE A CONTRACTORS, A GROUP IS REALLY THEIR JOB TO FIGURE OUT THE METHODOLOGY.

BUT AS A COMMISSION JOB IS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT UNTAPPED AUDIENCES, UH, PARTICULARLY WITHIN TROOPER HEIGHTS, UH, ARE REACHED AND THAT YOU FIND A WAY TO PROPERLY ENGAGE THEM DURING THE PROCESS WHEN YOU'RE CONDUCTING YOUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO POINTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIS GROUP.

FIRST, THE GOAL OF CONDUCTING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS REALLY DOCUMENTATION AND A KOREAN RECORD.

UH, I USED TO VIEW WRITING AS A CHORE, UH, UNTIL IT BECAME APPARENT THAT PUBLIC OFFICIALS WILL CHALLENGE VERBAL STATEMENTS, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY CHALLENGE DOCUMENTATION AND THEY DON'T CHALLENGE PAPER TRAILS.

AND SO AGAIN, NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

THE REASON WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DOCUMENTING ISSUES THAT NORMALLY HAD BEEN RENDERED INVISIBLE, OR MAYBE WITHIN THE SHADOWS.

SECOND, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, ASSESSMENTS ARE REALLY A COLLABORATIVE EXERCISE.

THERE IS ESSENTIAL FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND AS A RESULT, THEY'RE A GREAT WAY TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND TO FORM PARTNERSHIPS.

AS I SAID EARLIER, THERE ARE MANY MODELS.

HOWEVER, THE PROCESS OF CONDUCTING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIS PRESENTATION, I TRIED TO REALLY SUMMARIZE THEM IN BASICALLY FIVE STEPS.

AND THOSE STEPS ARE TO DEFINE THE SCOPE, TO GATHER THE DATA, TO ORGANIZE THE KEY FINDINGS, TO SET THE PRIORITIES AND TO COMMUNICATE THE NEXT STEP.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO DEFINING THE SCOPE, UH, THIS REALLY STARTS WITH BASICALLY FRAMING THE PROBLEM.

AND OTHER WORDS, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, BASICALLY FRAME AND ARTICULATE, WHAT'S THE COMMUNITY CONCERN THAT NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED.

AND THIS IS REALLY WHAT THE HIGH-LEVEL OBJECTIVE OF DEFINING THE SCOPE IS.

SO DURING THIS STAGE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK A SET OF VERY INTROSPECTIVE QUESTIONS AND THE SENSE OF WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? WHY DOES IT EXIST? WHO OR WHAT IS CAUSING IT? WHO DOES IT AFFECT OR WHAT BEHAVIORS MAY BE A CONCERN.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ARE EQUALLY USEFUL, SUCH AS WHEN DID IT FIRST OCCUR OR WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORY, WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM? ARE THERE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM AND CAN THE PROBLEM BE RESOLVED IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME? SO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE, BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO MOVE BEYOND A SUPERFICIAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONCERN.

AND SO THIS HELPS WITH FRAMING THE PROBLEM.

CLEARLY, SECONDLY, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY THE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED.

SO THE FIRST STEP IS BASICALLY TO ASK SOME AND WORLDLY FACING QUESTIONS IN ORDER TO QUALIFY THE NEED.

NOW, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS BASICALLY ASK THE OUTWARDLY FACING QUESTIONS THAT WOULD HELP YOU TO ASSESS THE NEED.

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE MORE PERTINENT TOWARDS SERVING THE COMMUNITY.

SO SPECIFICALLY, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU NEED TO ASK THE PUBLIC? WHAT QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED TO DEVELOP INTERVENTIONS THAT MAY HELP THE TARGETED POPULATION? WHAT QUESTIONS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR SURVEYING THE COMMUNITY? ARE THERE LOCAL NUANCES THAT YOU NEED TO CLARIFY? DO YOU REQUIRE METRICS? AND IF SO, WHAT QUANTITATIVE QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ASKED.

YOU ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO IDENTIFY THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FOCUS OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

IS IT DEFINED BY GEOGRAPHY? IS IT DEFINED BY A SPECIFIC POPULATION THAT'S SERVED? IS IT DEFINED BY OCCUPATION OR AFFINITY GROUP? SO YOU HAVE TO DEFINE YOUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

A FOURTH IS IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY WHO THE BENEFIT IS.

SHARES ARE, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT SPEED, UH, OR STANDING NEED, UH, OF THE SERVICE OR STAND, UH, BASICALLY, AND HAVING THEIR NEEDS MET.

AND SO AS USERS, THIS GROUP MAY HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF GAPS AND NEEDS.

THEY MAY ACTUALLY HELP YOU TO IMPROVE HOW YOU FRAMED THE PROBLEM.

IF YOU IDENTIFY THEM EARLY.

AND ALSO THEIR CHARACTERIZATIONS ABOUT VALUE MAY ACTUALLY BE MORE MEANINGFUL COMPARED TO PERSONS WHO MAY BE EMOTIONALLY DETACHED FROM THE TOPIC AND FIFTH UNDER DEFINING THE SCOPE.

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WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, SIMPLY ANYONE WHO HAS AN INTEREST WHO HAS AN INVESTMENT, UH, WHO MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE AN IMPACT IN TERMS OF THE WORK, UH, THE SECOND STEP, AND I'M GOING TO MOVE ALONG RATHER SWIFTLY IS YOU NEED TO GATHER THE DATA.

SO THE FIRST, UH, TYPE OF DATA THAT MANY OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH IS ACTUALLY STATISTICS AND DEMOGRAPHICS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE DATA THAT NORMALLY IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE U S CENSUS OR THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO WADE THROUGH A LOT OF CENSUS DATA, MOST PUBLIC AGENCIES ALREADY DO THAT BECAUSE THEY ANALYZE IT FOR THEIR LOCAL PLANS, FOR THEIR ANGER REPORTS, FOR THEIR GENERAL PROFILES, FOR STRATEGIC POPULATIONS, THAT WORK IS ALREADY BEING DONE BY MANY PUBLIC AGENCIES.

THE SECOND TYPE OF DATA THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IS COMMUNITY LEVEL INDICATORS.

THESE ARE THE FACTS AND FIGURES, UH, THAT CAN BE POOLED, UH, FROM A COMMUNITY TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL INSIGHTS INTO WHAT A COMMUNITY'S PROBLEMS MAY BE, UH, IN CONTRAST TO NATIONAL DATA SETS THAT ARE GREAT FOR ANSWERING MANY CONVENTIONAL QUESTIONS AT A HIGHER SCALE SCALE, UH, COMMUNITY, YEAH, LEVEL INDICATORS OFTEN REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIGGING BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT DATA THAT'S AT A MORE REFINED SCALE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OFTEN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING, WHEN YOU'RE USING DATA SETS LIKE A US CENSUS AND THE FA IN THE SENSE THAT THEY TEND TO AGGREGATE UP.

AND WHEN YOU START ASKING QUESTIONS AT A LOWER SCALE, SOMETIMES IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND SOME OF THE QUANTITATIVE DATA THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SUB-POPULATIONS SUCH AS LIKE MINORITY GROUPS, UH, THE THIRD TYPE OF DATA, UH, THAT YOU NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF IS COMMUNITY MEMBER EXPERIENCES.

AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU'RE ENGAGING SUBJECTS DIRECTLY.

YOU'RE CAPTURING THEIR ANECDOTES.

AND OFTEN THESE ANECDOTES HELP WITH, UH, CAPTURING INFORMATION THAT REALLY WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE IN SOME OF THE HIGHER LEVEL DATA SOURCES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE OFTEN GETTING QUALITATIVE TYPE, UH, FEEDBACK THAT HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND BASICALLY THE QUANTITATIVE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GATHERING.

UH, THE THIRD STEP, UH, IS TO ORGANIZE THE KEY FINDINGS.

I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE.

THIS IS REALLY WHERE YOU DO THE SYNTHESIS AND YOU TRACK THE TIME TO MAKE SENSE OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN COLLECTED.

UH, WHEN I DISCUSSED THE BASICS EARLIER, THE POINT THAT I MADE IS THE FACT THAT, UH, IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO DEVELOP DOCUMENTATION AND TO DEVELOP RECORDS.

UH, AS I INDICATED EARLIER, THE ACT OF WRITING CAN BE A CHORE, BUT WHAT I ENCOURAGE WITH YOU FOR THIS STEP IS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT.

THIS IS REALLY YOUR NARRATIVE.

UH, NEVER ASSUME THAT THERE IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE MOST CITIZENS AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS STILL WORK WITHIN THEIR SILOS.

THEY TEND TO HAVE A LIMITED BANDWIDTH.

AND SO IN THE END, YOU REALLY ARE THE TRUE EXPERT ON YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO NEVER ASSUME THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS OBVIOUS TO YOU, THAT IT MAY BE OBVIOUS TO SOMEONE ELSE.

AND SO WHEN YOU'RE ORGANIZING YOUR KEY FINDINGS, I LIKE TO SAY THAT AUTHORSHIP IS IMPORTANT.

UH, THE FOUR STEP, IT BASICALLY IS TO SET YOUR KEY PRIORITIES.

WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BASICALLY FRAMING CAREFULLY, WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE SETTING KEY PRIORITIES, WHAT YOU REALLY NEED TO FOCUS MORE SO, MORE SO ON IS REALLY EXPLAINING WHAT YOUR VISION IS.

THERE'S A THIN LINE BETWEEN ASSESSMENT AND COMMUNITY PLANNING.

AND IN SOME INSTANCES, THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS MAY ACTUALLY SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR COMMUNITY PLANNING EXERCISES.

SO SETTING PRIORITIES IS ONE OF THOSE POINTS OF INTERSECTION.

WHEN YOU SET PRIORITIES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

LIKE I SAID ABOUT VISIONING ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SUPPORT DIVISION, WHAT ARE THE GAPS? WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES? UH, AND SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES MAY BE IS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE PROBLEM IS LOCALIZED, THE WAY THAT PROBLEM IS SOLVED MAY ACTUALLY EXTEND BEYOND YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, A FOUNDATION, AND MAY TAKE AN INTEREST IN YOUR WORK, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH SOME OF THEIR PROGRAMS MAY TAKE AN INTEREST IN YOUR WORK MEDIA, UH, MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN DOING A NEWS STORY.

AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE TO ACTUALLY DO AN ASSESSMENT THAT FOCUSES ON SOME RATHER NUANCED ISSUES, UH, THAT ACTUALLY IDENTIFIES FINDINGS THAT NORMALLY WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED WOULD ACTUALLY BE OF INTEREST TO THEM.

SO THE TECHNIQUE OF APPRECIATIVE INQUIRY IS IMPORTANT WHEN YOU START SETTING YOUR PRIORITIES.

SO RATHER THAN RESTATING THE GAP IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WAYS TO FRAME IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY.

UH, THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M TAKING TIME TO PUSH THIS ISSUE IS BECAUSE AS A SOCIOLOGIST, I APPRECIATE THE IMPORTANCE OF ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT GAPS AND PROBLEMS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HUMAN BEHAVIOR AND RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT MOST DECISION-MAKERS WANT TO FOCUS ON

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SOLUTIONS.

AND SO THE FIFTH STEP BASICALLY IS TO TAKE TIME TO COMMUNICATE YOUR FINDINGS.

UM, THE CONVERSATION OF NEEDS ASSESSMENT, DOESN'T END WITH THE REPORT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE THE TIME TO SHARE YOUR FINDINGS WITH YOUR PARTNERS, WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED WITH THE BENEFICIARIES, AND ALSO THE WHOLE PROCESS OF SHARING YOUR FINDINGS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT MAY OPEN THE DOOR FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

SO WE WANT TO STRESS THAT YOU SHOULD THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT THAT PROCESS, AND ALSO THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT HOW TO DEVELOP A COMMUNICATION STRATEGY AS YOU WORK, UH, ON YOUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

AND AS YOU BRING IT TO CLOSURE.

SO I'M AT 20 MINUTES RIGHT NOW.

SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT I WRAP UP AND BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO ASK ME A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

LET ME JUST CONCLUDE BY SIMPLY INDICATING, UH, THAT I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF RESOURCES THE MIAMI VALLEY REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION CAN PROVIDE.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I NEED TO STRESS IS THE FACT THAT THE MINE VALLEY REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE FUNDING FOR NEEDS ASSESSMENT, BUT WHAT WE ARE IN THE POSITION TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH, IF YOU'RE A COMMISSION OR AT THE CITY OF HARIBO HEIGHTS IS SEEKING A CONSULTANT, WE CAN ASSIST YOU WITH SCOPING.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY AS A RESEARCH ORGANIZATION, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE OFTEN MINE DATA FROM THE U S CENSUS OR FROM THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY TO PERHAPS ASSIST WITH LIMITED RESEARCH OR EVEN SPATIAL ANALYSIS.

AND ALSO WE OFTEN PLAY A ROLE IN TERMS OF HELPING SOME OF OUR MEMBER PARTNERS WITH GETTING STARTED OR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN GET AN EFFORT OFF THE GROUND.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT TO ILLUSTRATE ILLUSTRATIVELY, CONVEY WHAT WE CAN DO AS A REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.

I'LL STOP THERE.

THAT'S A RATHER SHORT LIST, BUT I WANT TO USE A SHORT LIST FOR BEGINNERS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH THE IMPRESSION OF OVER-DELIVERING AND THEN NOT BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT.

AND SO IF THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE BEST IS FOR YOU TO ASK WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS, AND THEN I CAN FOLLOW UP IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO RESPOND TO DIRECTLY.

AND SO I APOLOGIZE THAT THESE, THIS SLIDE SHOW FROZE UP ON YOU, BUT THAT'S THE LAST COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE.

AND I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UH, MAYBE ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS GIVEN THE FACT THAT I'M THINKING YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER PERSON WHO'S GOING TO OFFER IT REMARKS AS WELL.

HELLO, IS ANYONE HAVE ANY, IF I MIGHT, I JUST WANTED TO SEE THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO EMAIL THAT OUT TO, UM, THE OTHER MEMBERS OR THE REST OF THE MEMBERS WHEN THAT'S AVAILABLE? YES.

I CAN EMAIL IT TO YOLANDA AND YOLANDA.

IF YOU DON'T MIND SHARING IT WITH THE GROUP, I'D BE HAPPY TO MY APOLOGIES THAT THE SCREEN FROZE AND YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE THE REST OF THE SLIDES, BUT I HOPE THAT MY CHARACTERIZATIONS VERBALLY WERE HELPFUL AND DEMYSTIFYING THIS PROCESS.

OKAY.

UM, MR. , HE SAID HE JUST EMAILED THE PRESENTATION TO EVERYONE, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE IT.

OKAY.

I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I MISSED IT.

YOU MEAN, IN TERMS OF, YOU SAID YOU, YOU ALL COULD PROVIDE HELP WITH SCOPING THE PROJECT.

UM, WHAT LEVEL OF ASSISTANCE COULD YOU PROVIDE WITH THAT HELPING WITH THE REVIEW PROCESS, OR MAYBE HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS, JUST TO GET A BETTER SENSE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WOULD IDENTIFY AS BEING A PROBLEM.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER IN THE PROCESS OF EVEN WITH THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, YOU NEED TO START ASKING SOME VERY CRITICAL QUESTIONS AND DRILLING DOWN DEEPER.

SO YOU MOVE BEYOND A SUPERFICIAL LEVEL.

AND THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE HELPFUL EVEN WITH THE PROCESSES OF JUST DEVELOPING A SCOPE OF WORK.

SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I MEAN IS IT'S GOING TO BE A PROCESS OF BASICALLY BEING AVAILABLE TO YOU AND TRYING TO ASK SOME PROBING QUESTIONS, BUT IT MAY INVOLVE A LITTLE BIT OF WRITING AS WELL, BUT THE ONLY WAY IN WHICH WE CAN POSITION OURSELVES TO HELP YOU WITH THAT IS TO BASICALLY GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR CONCERNS.

I MEAN, I I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THE OTHER MEETINGS, UH, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN GATHER THROUGH THE PROCESS OF JUST SEEING, HEARING OR RECORDING.

AND SO THE MORE THAT I'M ABLE TO LEARN THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ENGAGEMENT THAT MAY HELP IN TERMS OF IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF A SCOPE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE SUBMITTED TO A CONTRACT.

ABSOLUTELY.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. AILEY.

THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY EXPERIENCE I CONDUCT NEEDS ASSESSMENTS FOR ORGANIZATIONS AND ORGANIZATIONAL STANDPOINT IN MY BUSINESS, MY CONSULTING BUSINESS.

AND SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, OR ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES WITH THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS TO REALLY DETERMINE

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WHAT THE REAL ISSUE IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES A ISSUE MAY PRESENT ITSELF AS ONE THING, BUT THAT'S NOT THE REAL ISSUE.

SO AS A COMMISSION, UM, I KNOW WE KNOW WHAT OUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE INTERACT WITH IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT THEIR ISSUES AND CONCERNS ARE.

BUT AS MR AILEY SAID, I THINK THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT REALLY GETS TO THOSE DATA POINTS SO THAT WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW PREVALENT IS ISSUE ABC, SO THAT WE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE SPECIFIC ISSUES ARE THAT THE BULK OF OUR COMMITTEE OR OUR COMMUNITY IS WORKING AROUND OR DEALING WITH.

SO THAT AS A COMMISSION, WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AS IT PERTAINS TO, UM, THE CULTURE AND THE RACE ISSUE.

SO, UM, THANK YOU MR. LEE FOR THAT.

AND WE WILL, I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT.

OKAY.

YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? NO.

MR. ELLISON.

OH, OH, I'M SORRY.

ALL I WANTED TO SAY WAS THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT I INTRODUCED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.

AND SO YOU MAY WANT TO, UH, REVIEW SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OR EVEN CHANCES PRESENTATION, BECAUSE YOU'LL PROBABLY FIND THAT ILLUMINATING AS WELL.

SHE HAS BEEN DOING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AS THE LEADER OF A NONPROFIT FOR ROUGHLY 25 YEARS.

SO AGAIN, THAT LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE, YOU CAN'T PUT A DOLLAR VALUE ON THAT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND, UM, SO WE HAVE TOM ON WITH US AS WELL, AND HE'S FROM THE IMPACT GROUP, WHICH THEY CONDUCT THESE ASSESSMENTS FOR MY UNDERSTANDING.

UM, SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO, UM, IF YOU LEARN IT, APPRECIATE IT.

UM, WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? WHAT IS YOUR LAST NAME SPEAKS? SHE SPEAKS.

OKAY.

AND A FUNNY NAME.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A SENTENCE.

THAT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING ROB, IF YOU WANTED TO MAYBE KIND OF FRAME HOW YEAH, ABSOLUTELY GETTING TO EVERYBODY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO DROP IN BECAUSE, UM, WE'VE CERTAINLY BEEN TRACKING AND PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORTS INTO MAKING SURE THAT, UH, AS A CITY AND FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE GATHER THE RESOURCES TO PUT THE, THE, UH, THE, THE ENGINES AND THE MOTORS AND THE TOOLS IN PLACE TO GET THIS OFF THE GROUND AND GOING.

SO, UH, AGAIN, WE COMMEND THE COMMISSION FOR COMING UP WITH THE IDEA OF RIGHT OFF THE GATE RIGHT OUT, UH, FOR IDENTIFYING A, UM, UH, THE NEED FOR A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, UH, BECAUSE ARE THE POINTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BY, UH, UH, BY MR. ELEY THERE EARLIER ARE EXACTLY WHY THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND FOCUSING ON THAT FIRST STEP, HE'S EXACTLY RIGHT TO FINDING THAT SCOPE OF WORK.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT'S VERY, VERY CRITICAL THAT HE, THAT HE MADE MENTION OF WAS THE FACT THAT, UH, THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IS TO ASK THE COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, OKAY, HE'S A HUNDRED PERCENT, RIGHT.

WE TEND TO BE IN OUR OWN SILOS, UH, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US THAT WORK WITH AND FOR THE ACTUAL LOCAL GOVERNMENT ITSELF, BECAUSE WE HAVE CERTAIN TASKS AND JOBS, AND WE SEE THAT AS TASKS AND JOBS.

WE MAY NOT SEE THAT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE EYES OF A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY WHILE WE'RE PERFORMING OUR JOB, WHEN WE'RE NOT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN WE, OUR MEMBERS AND WE MIGHT SEE IT, BUT IF THAT DOES OCCUR AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT, AND, AND WE, WE CERTAINLY, UH, HAVE, HAVE CONSISTENTLY TAKEN EFFORTS TO, TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, TO FIND THINGS OUT.

IN FACT, WE'VE GOT A KIND OF A SLIGHT SURVEY GOING ON NOW.

SO THIS IS BACK TO, UH, WHEN WE BROUGHT IT UP TO COUNCIL COUNCIL, OF COURSE, WAS, UH, WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE AND LEFT US WITH THE CHARGE TO GO BACK AND START IDENTIFYING SOME RESOURCES, UH, UP TO, AND INCLUDING IF WE COULDN'T IDENTIFY A REGIONAL LOCAL OR AN INTERNAL RESOURCES TO EFFECTIVELY ACCOMPLISH THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT, UH, TO THEN, YOU KNOW, ASSEMBLE, UM, SOME FORM OF, UH, OF PROCESS TO, TO, UH, TO, UH, TO IDENTIFY, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ADDITIONAL FROM THERE.

LUCKILY THE IMPACT GROUP IS, UH, IS OUR COMMUNICATIONS FIRM.

UH, THEY HAVE HANDLED MANY, MANY ITEMS FOR US.

THEY ALSO HAVE HISTORY AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING SOME OF THOSE, UH, SOME OF THOSE KEY DATA POINTS THAT THEY'VE GATHERED AND COLLECTED BEFORE.

UH, AND, UH, THEY'RE WELL POISED AND READY TO BEGIN GOING.

SO, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS.

I KNOW TOM WILL PROBABLY TELL YOU HERE SOON.

UH, HE HE'S GETTING READY AND WE WANTED TO WAIT FOR THIS MEETING, UH, AND MAKE THE INTRODUCTION POST THIS MEETING WITH HIM AND MR. ELEY AND SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT HE'S PROVIDED AND REALLY JUMP INTO THAT, UH, THAT STEP ONE OF IDENTIFYING THE SCOPE AND KIND OF MESHING THAT INTO SOME DATA GATHERING.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, LIKE A WHITE BURB SESSION WITH THIS COMMISSION, UH, BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION HAS THE IDEAS OF WHAT SOME OF THAT SCOPE AND WHERE THOSE TARGET

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AREAS OF, UH, OF, OF CONCERN AND IDENTIFYING, UH, THOSE EXPERIENCES ARE GOING TO BE, UH, AND, AND PUTTING THAT ALL TOGETHER AND FACILITATING A METHOD TO GET OUT AND ASK THE COMMUNITY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY SEE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AFTER, UH, SOME OF THOSE SCOPES ARE DEFINED, UH, AS FAR AS SOME OF THE OTHER DATA POINTS THAT, UH, MR. ED MENTIONED AGAIN, THE NATIONAL DATA, SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE'VE GOT MANY OF THOSE RESOURCES, BUT THE KEY THING, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO, UH, TO, TO, TO, TO FORMULATE AND ORGANIZE THE METHODS FOR GOOD COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

AND THAT'S GOING TO START WITH UTILIZING THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT WILL BE FOLLOWED UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME SESSIONS WITH THIS COMMISSION, UH, SO THAT, UH, TOM AND HIS GROUP CAN, CAN ASSEMBLE SOME TACTICS AND SOME OBJECTIVES TO GO OUT AND START GATHERING THAT INFORMATION, GATHERING THAT NECESSARY DATA SO THAT IT CAN THEN BE COMPILED INTO, UH, UH, SOME OF THOSE KEY FINDINGS.

AND, UH, WE CAN DEVELOP THAT, THAT DOCUMENTED WAR PRODUCT THAT IDENTIFIES THOSE PRIORITIES AND ALLOWS THEM TO BE, UH, UH, THEN BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE COMMISSION, THROUGH THE CITY AND ALL RESOURCES TO IDENTIFY OBJECTIVES AND MEANS TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE KEY FINDINGS.

UH, BUT AS I SAID TONIGHT, THAT THE MAIN, THE MAIN THING IS, IS TO GATHER THE RESOURCES.

UH, LUCKILY WE'VE BEGUN DOING THAT.

WE'VE GOT SOME RESOURCES ASSEMBLED, UH, WE HAVE WE'RE LAUNCHING AND, UH, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COMMISSION, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING UP WITH THE IDEA AND, UH, JUST HEARING MR. ULI TALKER, I'M CERTAINLY PROUD TO BE INVOLVED IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS TAKEN THIS INITIATIVE AND ACTION AND TAKES THE IDEA OF NEEDS ASSESSMENT VERY SERIOUSLY, SO MUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY, UH, YOU KNOW, JUMPING IN WITH BOTH FEET AND READY TO GET GOING.

SO, UM, UH, I'LL, I'LL PASS IT OFF TO TOM IF HE HAD ANYTHING TO ASK OR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, JUST FROM MY STANDPOINT TO THE COMMISSION AND REPRESENTING COUNCIL AND LIAISON FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, UH, WE'RE IN THIS, WE'RE BEHIND THIS, WE'RE EXCITED HERE, WHAT TYPE OF INPUT THAT THE COMMISSION BRINGS TO THE TABLE.

AND JUST LIKE MR. ED SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FACILITATOR OF THIS PROCESS, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL DEVELOP THAT AND GO FORWARD.

IT'S OUR JOB TO HELP PROVIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THOSE INITIAL IDENTIFY NEEDS, AND THEN BE CATALYSTS TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, TO IDENTIFY THOSE GROUPS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE HEARD FROM.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE MULTITUDES OF EXPERTISE THAT LIVES WITHIN THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL.

SO I'M JUST VERY EXCITED AND, UM, AND, AND VERY BRIGHT, VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF IT.

SO, SO, UM, SO AT THE LAUNCH BUTTON AND GO GOING ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANKS, PROBABLY JUST THAT.

I WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING, UH, UH, YOLANDA AND MR. LEE, YOU GUYS YOU'RE DEAD ON, RIGHT.

AS FAR AS THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE SCOPE, IT'S ALL ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE EVEN TRYING TO STUDY AS HAVING DONE THIS NOW FOR 20 YEARS.

PLUS, UH, THESE THINGS CAN BE ENORMOUS OR THEY CAN BE SMALL, OR, YOU KNOW WHAT, ALSO THE BALANCE I IMAGINE MR. LEE HAS DEALT WITH QUITE A BIT TOO, IS, IS THE IDEA OF, WE GOT TO GET TO ACTION AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU CAN STUDY THESE THINGS TILL, TILL THE COWS COME HOME.

UH, SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS REALLY DEFINE WHAT THIS IS, PUT TOGETHER A VERY STRATEGIC PROCESS AND GET GOING.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO GET GOING UNTIL WE'RE READY, BUT I, THERE IS THAT POINT WHERE WE NEED TO DECIDE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? WHAT IS THE SCOPE? HOW DO WE GO FORWARD? SO IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS FOR FOUR HOURS, BUT TO BREAK IT DOWN WHAT YOU SAID AT THE MOMENT, IT GOES DEAD ON, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE SCOPE? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO, TO, TO, TO, UH, UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE COMMUNITY? AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN THAT.

IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS CONVEYING AS OPPOSED TO ANY SMALL GROUPS, ANY SMALL GROUP IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE HAS SOME PRECONCEIVED IDEAS AS TO WHAT THE ISSUES ARE IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, RIGHT? SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO WEIGH, TO, TO BUBBLE UP SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

SO THE PROCESS HAS TO, HAS TO BEGIN WHERE I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO, ANY PROCESS REALLY BEGINS IN OUR WORLD.

I IMAGINE THIS REALLY HAS A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE IN YOLANDA AS WELL, AND YOURS IS A WHITEBOARD SESSION OR THE EQUIVALENT OF IT.

WE GET THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS RIGHT NOW.

AND WE JUST COLLECTIVELY GO THROUGH ALL OF THE QUESTIONS, REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, REALLY TRYING TO GET TO THE ROOT OF IT, THAT BEING OUR BASIS.

THEN WE BEGIN TO CONSTRUCT THE MODEL TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT INVOLVES, THAT INVOLVES SOME STANDING COMMITTEE THAT INVOLVES FOCUS GROUPS, REALLY, REALLY TARGETED FOCUS GROUPS.

AND WE HAVE HAD AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SUCCESS IN THIS COVID ENVIRONMENT OF ENGAGING PEOPLE.

IT'S, IT'S PRETTY FASCINATING.

ACTUALLY, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE ENGAGED.

YOU CAN GET THEM OUT TO A GROUP AND THIS AND THAT, BUT COVID WITH ZOOM, THEY'LL GET ENGAGED.

SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS REALLY, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE WHITEBOARD SESSION, WHAT ARE THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE NEED TO REALLY GET UNDER

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THE HOOD AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS YOUR PERCEPTION? WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT WAY? WHAT IS THE BASIS OF THAT? HOW, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? REALLY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SAY WHAT'S ON THEIR HEARTS AND TO GIVE THEM A SAFE SPACE, TO SAVE CONFIDENTIAL SPACE, TO DO THAT.

SO HAVE ALL THOSE FOCUS GROUPS AND THAT STANDING COMMITTEE SERVING HAS A GREAT ROLE IN THIS AS WELL.

THIS IS THE QUALITATIVE PIECE, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT TO GET THE, THE SERVING ON, UH, ONLINE PIECES THAT'S PROPERLY DONE.

WE NEED TO DO SOMETIMES PAPER SURVEYS FOR SOME, SOME ELDERLY COMMUNITIES AND SUCH.

WE FOUND THAT, UH, PHONE POLLING WORKS WELL WITH 65.

PLUS GENERALLY, THEY'RE THE ONLY PEOPLE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ANSWERING A LANDLINE.

GOD BLESS THEM.

UH, SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE'RE ENGAGING THOSE FOLKS, RIGHT? SO YOU HAD YOUR, YOUR QUANTITATIVE AND YOUR QUALITATIVE.

AND WE WOULD DISCUSS THIS ALL THROUGH THE WHITEBOARD SESSION AND TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP OF ALL OF US, TO GATHER ALL OF THIS DIFFERENT DATA, THESE DIFFERENT DATA POINTS.

AND THEN AS MR. LEE SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO TO NOW YOU ANALYZE ALL THIS, RIGHT? YOU ANALYZE WHAT IT SAYS, UH, WHAT, WHERE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO WHILE OVERLAPPING ALL THAT DEMOGRAPHIC AND ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION.

NOW, IT REALLY BEGINS TO PAINT A PICTURE.

AND NOW WE CAN, THIS IS THE CLIFF NOTES HERE, BUT NOW WHAT WE DO IS WE START TO ESTABLISH WHAT ARE SOME ACTION POINTS? WHAT ARE, SO WHAT ARE THE, THE THINGS THAT IF WE TACKLE THESE PARTICULAR THINGS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE MOST IMPACT IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE WITH THE FINITE RESOURCES WE HAVE.

SO YOU BEGIN TO PRIORITIZE.

AND ALSO AS MR. LEE SAID, THEN YOU BEGIN TO COMMUNICATE, RIGHT? SO YOU FOUND OUT THIS IS OUR PROCESS.

WE'VE GATHERED OUR DATA.

HERE ARE SOME ACTION STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD, AND HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S MANY, MANY WAYS TO TACKLE THIS.

UH, BUT IT ALL BEGINS WITH THAT WHITEBOARD SESSION.

IT ALL BEGINS WITH THIS GROUP SITTING IN A ROOM, WHETHER PHYSICALLY OR ONLINE, AND REALLY TAKING A COUPLE HOURS TO GET UNDER THE HOOD AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF THESE PIECES ARE.

SO TOM YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING PART OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

NOW WITH THE CITY OR LEVEL OF ASSESSMENT OR SURVEY, IT'S THE, UH, THE REFUSE AND THE RECYCLING TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE DONE.

GOSH, FOR 20 YEARS, WE'VE WORKED WITH CITIES AND MANY, MANY, MANY, I MEAN, DOZENS AND DOZENS AND DOZENS OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND BOARDS OF DEVELOPMENT DISABILITIES, AND ALL THE REST TO ESTABLISH IS THEIR, WHAT IS THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN? WHAT IS THEIR DIRECTION FORWARD? HOW DO THEY SUPPORT THE CONSTITUENCIES WITHIN THOSE AREAS? UH, AND, AND THE DIVERSITY INCLUSION IS OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS, ALWAYS A BIG PIECE OF THOSE OF THOSE EFFORTS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WHICH WE ALWAYS GET EXCITED ABOUT TOO, IS THE FIRST STRATEGIC PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS KIND OF FOUR OR FIVE CHESS MOVES DOWN THE BOARD, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE ACTIONABLE ITEMS WHO IS DOING WHAT, WHEN TO MOVE A BALL FORWARD, THAT GETS EXCITING, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING ACTION AND MAKING THINGS HAPPEN.

OKAY.

SO WITH YOUR AGENCY, WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE WITH SPECIFICALLY THE DIVERSITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT? WELL, WITH THE DIVERSITY, WE'VE SPECIFICALLY DONE QUITE A BIT WITH, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WITH CITIES, WITH ONCE AGAIN, AS A PART OF THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, UH, LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF WHAT THE CITY OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROVIDES.

THAT IS, THAT IS ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE PIECES, WHICH COMES UP AND WHICH IS, WHICH HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT.

SO THAT'S BEEN LIKE TARGETED TOWARDS SPECIFICALLY FOR DIVERSITY CULTURE, RACE, HAVE THOSE BEEN TARGETED ASSESSMENTS, TARGETED ASSESSMENT.

THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE LARGER ASSESSMENTS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, IT DOES, BUT IT'S NOT BEEN, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE WITH LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT RACE RELATIONS, UM, CULTURAL DIFFERENCES, BIASES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, NOT ANY SPECIFIC, CITY-WIDE ONE ON THE DIVERSITY.

HAVE I DONE DOZENS AND DOZENS HAVE OUR GROUP DONE WITH THE CITY SCHOOLS AND THE REST AND ALICIA, IT IS ABSOLUTELY A PIECE OF THE CULTURE, A PIECE OF THEIR, UH, THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW ARE DOING SOMETHING CALLED PORTRAIT OF A GRADUATE IN WHICH THEY ARE, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A STUDENT THAT GRADUATES THAT SCHOOL? AND ONE OF THEM IS ALWAYS A SENSITIVITY TO DIVERSITY, UNDERSTANDING WORLD CULTURE.

I MEAN, IT'S, SO IT'S A PIECE OF IT.

YES.

UH, THIS IS ERIC.

UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, OR LET'S SAY, TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, THOSE, UH, PREVIOUS ASSESSMENTS THAT YOU'VE DONE.

SO IN THE STRATEGIC PLANS.

SURE.

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OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO TOM, YOUR AGENCY ACTUALLY HELPS SCOPE OUT THE PROJECT.

UM, LOOK AT WHAT THE, HOW THE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS WILL BE SET UP, SET UP THE FOCUS GROUPS, UM, CONTACT WITH TARGET AUDIENCES, THEN TAKE THE DATA AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT DEVELOPING A STRATEGIC PLAN AROUND THAT DATA IS THAT YOU'RE POTENTIALLY WELL, WHAT'S THE, ONCE AGAIN, I'M HUMBLY, I'M COMING TO THIS LEARNING ABOUT YOU GUYS TONIGHT AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, UH, MR. ELEY, YOUR EXPERTISE TO LONDA, UM, I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW ALL THE DIFFERENT PUZZLE PIECES FIT, BUT SURE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY, YEAH, I W I WOULD ADD IN A REAL QUICK, UH, JUST TO FOLLOW UP THE, THE, THE GOAL OF THIS, BECAUSE TO TAKE A COOKIE CUTTER, A NEEDS ASSESSMENT OR A STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, ONE OF THOSE VARIOUS MODELS, I TEND TO LIKE THE CARE MODEL THAT MR. ELEY, UM, TALKED ABOUT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING ALL OF THOSE, BUT TO, TO TAKE A COOKIE CUTTER, UH, THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN, IN A PROCESS, UH, DEFINED PROCESSES IS A GOOD PLACE TO START, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT BECAUSE THIS IS, AS YOU MENTIONED, NOT A NEW THING, UH, BUT KIND OF A REINVENTED THING OUT OF A SPECIAL AND A NIGHT IN A TARGETED, IDENTIFIED PURPOSE AND REASON, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SITUATION IF THIS WAS JUST A, HEY, AS PART OF OUR REGULAR ONGOING, UH, YOU KNOW, INPUT IN, IN PRIVATIZATION DEVELOPMENT, LET'S INCLUDE DIVERSITY.

WE ALL KNOW THAT MOST OF THIS WAS POINTED IN DRAWN TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE OF RECENT EVENTS.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK THAT IT, IT LIKELY WOULD CHANGE THE BASIC SCOPE OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT COME IN WITH TOO MUCH PREDEFINED PROCESS IN MIND, BUT TO UTILIZE PEOPLE LIKE TOM AND HIS FIRM AND, AND, AND, AND, AND CARLTON AND, AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS INPUT AS TO HOW YOU CAN TAKE AND SHAPE WHAT IS IDENTIFIED AS THE CURRENT AND RECENT NEEDS TO THEN FURTHER ENHANCE AND DEFINE THAT PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO, UH, ALTHOUGH TO TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, AN EXISTING, AND I KNOW YOU USED THE WORD TARGETED TOWARDS ONE SPECIFIC THING, I THINK THE EVENTS AND THE SITUATION IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS PLACED THIS AS A PRIORITY UPON US, UH, IS KIND OF A BEGINNING POINT IN THE FOUNDATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME NEW WAYS TO ADD TO THE SCOPE AND SOME NEW WAYS TO OPERATE AND CREATE A FORMULA TO CONDUCT THE GATHERING OF THE DATA AND ESTABLISHING THE PRIORITIES.

UH, AND I THINK KEEPING THAT OPEN MIND IS GOING TO BE KEY TO MAKING THIS, UM, THE RIGHT THING.

WE DON'T WANT TO JUST TAKE A