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          OKAY, SO IT IS NOW SIX OH ONE. 
          THIS IS THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. 
          TODAY IS NOVEMBER 19TH, 2020. 
          GETTING STARTED AT SIX OH ONE. 
          AND THIS MEETING IS TAKING PLACE TO BE, UH, UH, REMOTE. 
          AND, UH, NUMBER ONE IS TO CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER WHICH WE'VE DONE AND OUR ROLL CALLS, MR. ROGERS, IF YOU WILL, MR. SHAW HERE, MS. BAKER HERE, MR. CAMPBELL HERE. 
          THIS IS BURJ HERE, MR. OTTO HERE. 
          MR. LIONS HERE, MR. HILL HERE. 
          MR. WEBB HERE OR HERE. 
          UH, NEXT STEP 
          [2. Approval of Minutes]
IS I REMEMBER TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          SO WE HAVE A SET OF MINUTES UNDER ITEM TWO, A FOR NOVEMBER 2ND, 2020. 
          IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR AMENDMENTS TO THOSE MINUTES, THEY'LL STAY AS APPROVED HEARING. 
          NONE OF THOSE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 2ND 
          [ City Manager Report]
ARE APPROVED. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE IS OUR WORK SESSION TOPICS OF DISCUSSION FOR THIS EVENING. 
          AND ITEM THREE EIGHT IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORT. 
          MR. SCHOMER, IF YOU'RE BACK UPSTAIRS. 
          UH WE'LL. 
          WE'LL HEAR YOUR REPORT, MR. BELL, DID YOU SEE ROB FLY PAST YOU? OH, YOU'RE MUTED. 
          HE HAS NOT COME UP, UH, STAIRS YET. 
          OH, HERE HE COMES HERE. 
          HE US, YOU NEED TO HIT FLOOR TO BUTTON WHEN YOU GO. 
          SORRY FOR THE DELAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. 
          UM, JUST HAVE ONE BRIEF THING THIS EVENING IS, UH, AS I SENT OUT TO YOU IN AN EMAIL, OBVIOUSLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, UH, SOME CHANGES IN RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND ADVISORY NOTICES, AS WELL AS THE, UH, INSTALLATION OF THE STATE ORDER WHERE THE CURFEW AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY, I HAVING A COUPLE OF EVENTS GOING ON. 
          UH, I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, UH, PRUDENTIAL AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION TO SEE WHAT THE DESIRED OUTCOME OF OUR CURRENTLY SCHEDULED EVENTS, UH, BASED ON THE, UM, THE WISHING IN POLICY OF COUNCIL AND FOLLOWING, UH, THAT ADVISORY ORDER. 
          SO ROB, ARE WE HAVE THE DATE? I THINK IT'S DECEMBER THE FIFTH. 
          IS THAT THE DATE FOR OUR, UH, OUR OWN CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING? NOT THE ONE THAT YES, I BELIEVE SO. 
          AND THAT FALLS WITHIN THE CANCELED. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT ORDER GOES THROUGH DECEMBER 17TH. 
          SO WHAT IS, YEAH, WE KNOW WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE GOVERNOR ARE. 
          WE KNOW THE, THE, THE CURFEWS, WE KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GOING ON. 
          UH, WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE COUNCIL'S FEELINGS ON, UH, ON OUR CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY AT THE EICHELBERGER? YES. 
          MR. AUDIT. 
          OH, GLADLY GIVE MY OPINION. 
          UM, I THINK THAT, UH, I I'M A GO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE MAJORITY IS AGAINST THAT, THAT'S FINE. 
          UH, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S OUTDOORS. 
          UM, THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE THERE FOR DISTANCING. 
          UM, I'M SURE WE CAN UTILIZE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYS TO, UH, TO PROVIDE SAFETY TO RESIDENTS. 
          AND, UM, IF RESIDENTS WANTED TO GET OUT AND GET TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT DURING THE SEASON, THEY'D BE ABLE TO, UH, ON THE FLIP SIDE, IF IT WERE TO BE COLD, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          I ASKED, SORRY, THAT'S KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I GUESS MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO KEEP IT, KEEP IT IN FULL SWING, BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE WALKING THAT FINE LINE REALLY WELL REALLY WELL. 
          AGAIN, I IT'S MY PREFERENCE THAT WE HAVE IT FULL ON. 
          MR. SHAW. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MEET, UH, WITH THE ANB COMMISSION. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY BEFORE THESE ORDERS CAME OUT, UM, TODAY I'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF THEM, UH, VIA TELEPHONE, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          UH, AND I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          UH, THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE GONE EVERY DIFFERENT DIRECTION, UH, UH, IMAGINABLE, UM, HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAYED AN INTEGRAL PART IN OUR, UH, UM, CHRISTMAS CELEBRATIONS EACH YEAR. 
          UM, IT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT, UM, 
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THIS EVENT, UH, CONTINUES, UM, WITH THE FULL SUPPORT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF, ALONG WITH ACTIVE PARTICIPATION AT THAT EVENT. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK A VIRTUAL EVENT IS BENEFICIAL IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. 
          I DON'T THINK CANCELING IT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM IS BENEFICIAL. 
          UM, CHRISTMAS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE TIMES OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, MY CHRISTMAS TREE IS ALREADY UP MY HOUSE OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE, DECORATED THE WIND BUSTED TWO OF MY OUTDOOR CANDY CANES. 
          UM, IT'S MY FAVORITE TIME OF YEAR. 
          UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT, UH, UM, WITH THE, UM, PROVISIONS IN PLACE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS SAFE AND HAVING THIS EVENT THEN, UM, I THINK IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE NOW ON THE SECOND PART OF THE CITY MANAGERS, UH, CONVERSATION, WHICH WAS THE CURFEW THAT WAS, UH, UM, PUT IN PLACE BY THE GOVERNOR. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, PLACE POLICY WITH OUR HEBREW HEIGHTS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO NOT ENFORCE THAT. 
          UM, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE MANPOWER OR THE NECESSITY, AND I BELIEVE IT WOULD OPEN US UP GREATLY FOR, UM, UNNECESSARY, UM, UH, LITIGATION, UH, TO RANDOMLY STOP PEOPLE THAT WHO ARE NOT OUT DURING THAT TIME. 
          UM, SO, UM, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS AS YOUR CAMERA. 
          DOES YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED OR YES. 
          YES. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUE AND I'M, I'M ON THE SIDE OF, UH, UH, MR. OTTO AND MR. SHAW, IF WE MAKE IT AVAILABLE, UM, AND FOLKS WANT TO ATTEND, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO, BUT I WOULD, UH, I WOULD SUPPORT THE, UH, DECISION OF COUNCIL, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EVENT GO ON. 
          YEAH, APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS, UH, FROM ME THREE. 
          SO LET ME CHIME IN HERE A LITTLE BIT. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I, UM, THIS, THIS COUNCIL AND THIS IN OUR, IN OUR STAFF SINCE COVID, YOU KNOW, BECAME A THING BACK IN MARCH AND ONCE LOCKDOWN STARTED AND CLOSURE STARTED HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THE POSITION THAT PEOPLE WILL PARTICIPATE IF THEY'RE COMFORTABLE PARTICIPATING. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE DONE. 
          THAT'S KEPT ANYBODY FROM DOING THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO FROM OUR, UH, OUTDOOR EVENTS THAT WE HAD AT THE EICHELBERGER WHERE WE HELP WE HAVE MUSIC. 
          WE, WE KNOW THAT WE WERE KIND OF THE FIRST OUT OF THE GATE TO KEEP OUR, UM, UH, TO GIVE YOU A QUICK CENTER OPEN. 
          WE WERE ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR 4TH OF JULY PARADE. 
          SO I THINK THROUGH ALL OF THIS, SOME OF THESE CELEBRATIONS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, UM, HAVE, HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT ENOUGH IS, UH, AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING EVENT IS BECAUSE DURING THESE TIMES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T TALKED ENOUGH ABOUT IS JUST THE OVERALL MENTAL HEALTH OF PEOPLE. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE MENTALITY OF PEOPLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO CELEBRATE A CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING AS LITTLE AS THAT MIGHT SEEM, OR AS MINOR AS THAT MIGHT SEEM, THAT IS, I THINK THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          AND I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO THAT, THAT BRINGS, AGAIN, SOME NORMALCY TO PEOPLE'S, UH, JOYS OF PEOPLE THAT WE CAN ACTIVELY DO AS A COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SCARED AND WHO ARE WORRIED, UM, WHO PROBABLY WON'T COME AND THEY SHOULDN'T COME. 
          I THINK WE'VE ALL SAID, AND I'VE SAID MANY, MANY TIMES, YOU NEED TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE YOUR FAMILY'S TAKEN CARE OF, AND YOUR FAMILY IS SAFE AND YOU CAN ACT IN THAT MANNER THAT HELPS YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY. 
          AND IF, AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BEING OUT, IF IT'S OUTSIDE IN THE OPEN, THEN YOU CAN PARTICIPATE. 
          I WOULD ADD THOUGH, I BELIEVE ROB, IT ISN'T THE GOVERNOR'S NEW RESTRICTIONS WHERE THEY, HE DID MENTION OUT EVEN OUTDOOR CONGREGATE AREAS, AS FAR AS, UH, PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO BE UP AND CONGREGATING IF THEY WERE PEOPLE WERE OUTSIDE, KIND OF THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO STAY SEATED. 
          I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT KIND OF WENT ALONG WITH THE WHOLE NOTE DANCING ORDER, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THERE IS SEATING AT THE EICHELBERGER AMPHITHEATER. 
          SO I THINK THERE IS ROOM WHERE PEOPLE COULD SIT DOWN ON ALL THE BENCHES THAT ARE THERE. 
          UH, I THINK THERE'S AREAS PLENTY OF GRASS AREAS WHERE PEOPLE COULD BRING CHAIRS AND BLANKETS WHERE 
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SOCIAL DISTANCING REALLY COULD BE PRACTICED IN EVEN AN HOUR IN THAT OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, AND WE PROVIDE SEATING THERE. 
          SO IF THERE WAS, UH, IF I'M MISTAKEN, THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD THAT ORDER, AND MAYBE THAT IS ONLY INSIDE, NOT OUTSIDE, BUT WHEN I HEAR CONGREGATE AREAS, I THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY MIGHT BE. 
          BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO BE SEATED IF THAT'S PART OF THE ORDER WHERE WE WOULDN'T BE OPENLY VIOLATING, UM, YOU KNOW, A, UH, WHAT I BELIEVE WITH THE GOVERNOR CALLED A SLOWDOWN, NOT A SHUTDOWN. 
          UM, ROB, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO, I MEAN, IS THERE, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT? OR, UM, AND I GUESS, AND I WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED IN YOUR, IN YOUR OPINION TOO. 
          I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE HAD ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS ALL SUMMER ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT WE'RE DOING, THE AQUATIC CENTER, AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE FROM, FROM WHAT, FROM WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS AS THE MANAGER OF THE CITY, UM, WHO WORKS ALL OF OUR, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY IN TUNE TO ALL OF OUR EMS SERVICES, UH, IS THAT STILL KIND OF THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE, OF THE CITY AS WELL, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE OFFER THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN PARTICIPATE IN AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO. 
          YEAH, I CERTAINLY WOULD, WOULD AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REFLECTED THUS FAR. 
          UM, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY HAS RESPONDED WELL. 
          I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE, UH, HAVE BEEN CHECKED OFF BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THE MANNERS AND WAYS, I THINK THAT, UH, OUR STAFF, OUR VOLUNTEERS, OUR RESIDENTS ARE WELL-TRAINED AND INFORMED AS TO WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY MAKE DECISIONS TO DO THINGS, HOW TO DO THEM WITH CAUTION AND SAFETY. 
          AND, UM, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE ORDER DOESN'T, UM, EXPLICITLY PROHIBIT THE ABILITY TO MOVE THOSE THINGS ON. 
          UH, THE ONLY THING WOULD BE IS THAT THERE'S THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS BECAUSE, UM, AS NOTED MANY OTHER AREA EVENTS, WE, WE LIKELY WILL BE ONE OF THE ONLY COMMUNITIES HAVING SOMETHING. 
          AND, UM, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE INFORM PEOPLE EXTRA ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL GUIDELINES. 
          AND IF WE CONTINUE TO GO ON WITH THE EVENT, UH, FROM A STAFF SIDE PERSPECTIVE, IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL INFORM OUR VOLUNTEERS AND OUR STAFF AND ALL THE ATTENDEES HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO BE WITHIN COMPLIANCE OF THOSE GUIDELINES AND ORDERS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          CAUSE, AND I THINK, UH, YEAH, SOME OF THESE EVENTS ARE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DROPPING OFF. 
          AND, UM, I THINK I JUST SAW WHERE WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP WAS LIKE THE LATEST ONE TO, TO CLOSE OR CANCEL THEIR, THEIR TREE LIGHTING EVENT. 
          SO, UM, AS YOU SAID, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN A LEADER IN STILL ALLOWING THINGS TO GO ON AND IN THE WHOLE REGION. 
          AND WE PROBABLY DO GET PEOPLE FROM OTHER AREAS THAT COME HERE TO ENJOY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO. 
          SO, SO CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, MS. BURCH, UH, YES. 
          UM, WHILE WE CONTINUED TO, UM, RUN OUR EVENTS, THIS SUMMER THINGS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY SINCE THEN. 
          THEY'RE PROJECTING THAT TOMORROW, IF NOT TOMORROW, THE NEXT DAY, THE NUMBER OF CASES PER DAY IN OHIO ARE GONNA RISE TO 10,000. 
          UM, THERE'S A, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, MONTGOMERY COUNTY ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO STAY AT HOME. 
          OUR SCHOOLS ARE GOING REMOTE. 
          THE KIDS THAT ARE COMING HOME FROM COLLEGE ARE GOING TO STAY HOME, MANY OF THEM THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR AND, AND DO, UH, REMOTE STUDYING. 
          UM, I, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING A TREE LIGHTING EVENT FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO OUT THERE AND STAND IN THE OPEN, BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR NORMAL, UM, KIDS' ACTIVITIES AND THINGS, AND, AND, OR ENCOURAGING THE KIDS TO COME OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL NOT BE SOCIALLY DISTANCED, UH, WHILE THEY'RE DOING THEIR ACTIVITIES OR WHILE THEY'RE DRINKING THEIR COCOA OR WHATEVER ELSE. 
          AND CERTAINLY NOT TO, UM, TO TALK TO SANTA. 
          I, I THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT WISE BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT CORONAVIRUS NUMBERS THAT WE TAKE THE RISKS NOW. 
          AND, AND THE IDEA OF US TAKING THE LEAD IS ONE THING, BUT THIS VIRUS HAS HIT A CRITICAL POINT AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S HIT A CRITICAL POINT. 
          AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER FOCUS ON AN ACTIVITY, AN ALTERNATE ACTIVITY, LIKE ENCOURAGING OUR BUSINESSES IN OUR HOUSE, OUR HOMEOWNERS, TO, TO, UH, OUR RESIDENTS, TO LIGHT UP THE CITY AND TO CREATE THE CHRISTMAS, CHEER THAT WAY AND TO PUT UP THEIR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS AND, AND TRY TO TRY TO FEEL SOME NORMALCY, UH, DURING THIS REALLY CRAZY HOLIDAY SEASON. 
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UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I AM TEMPTED TO SAY, I'M NOT, I DON'T GO OUT BECAUSE I'M SCARED AT FIRST IT WAS FOR AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, BUT NOW I'M SCARED. 
          I REALLY AM. 
          WHEN THE NUMBERS STARTED HITTING ABOUT 10,000 A DAY AND THE HOSPITALS ARE GETTING FULLER AND EVERYTHING. 
          UM, I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT HAVING THE, UH, EVENT AT THE, UH, EICHELBERGER IS THIS A SARAH REALLY THE RIGHT WAY TO APPROACH THIS, THIS HOLIDAY SEASON WITH RESPECT TO LOOKING OUT FOR OUR, UM, OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE, I KNOW MY SON-IN-LAW STARTING MONDAY, THE, HIS COMPANY, UH, WHEN HE WORKS AT SPEEDWAY, THEY'RE ALL SENDING EVERYBODY HOME TO WORK REMOTELY THE REST OF THE YEAR. 
          AND YOU'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THAT. 
          SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I JUST, I THINK THAT BECAUSE OF PUBLIC HEALTH ORDER IS TO STAY AT HOME, THEN WE NEED TO STAY AT HOME. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE ACTIVITIES FOR PEOPLE TO DRAW THEM BACK OUT OF THEIR HOUSES. 
          THAT'S MY INPUT. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT INPUT AND EASY. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IF IT'S A MODIFIED, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S ANY TYPE OF MODIFIED, UH, EVENT IN LIGHTING THE TREE, MAYBE IT ISN'T THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BIG GATHERING THAT, THAT WE HAD BEFORE. 
          BUT I TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, W WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT, I DO THINK THAT IF, UM, I THINK WE'RE ON THE VERGE, WE KNOW THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY IS ONE OF THE THREE COUNTIES ON THE WATCH LIST FOR THE CODE. 
          I GUESS THE LEVEL FOUR OF THE, OF THE REAL STATE OF EMERGENCY WITH THIS THING. 
          UM, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN, HAS HIT THOSE SIX OUT OF THE EIGHT INDICATORS A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT THE, TO ADVANCE TO THAT NEXT LEVEL OF LEVEL FOUR, YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU HAVE TO MEET SIX OF THE EIGHT INDICATORS IN, IN CONSECUTIVE WEEKS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S, WHAT'S PUT US ON THE WATCH LIST NOW IS THAT, UH, IF WE, IF WE HIT ONE MORE WEEK, UH, CONSECUTIVELY WHERE WE'VE HIT THOSE SIX INDICATORS, THEN, THEN WE WOULD END UP BEING A PURPLE COUNTY AS WELL. 
          SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO THINK IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S STILL AT A RED LEVEL OR REALIZED THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING WORSE, BUT IF IT'S A RED LEVEL, I THINK I WOULD BE OKAY WITH SOME TYPE OF A MODIFIED EVENT, UH, AT THE EICHELBERGER. 
          BUT I THINK IF WE GET INTO LEVEL A PURPLE LEVEL, WHERE, AND I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY EVEN ASKED THE GOVERNOR IN THE PAST, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WATCH SOME OF THOSE, UM, PRESS CONFERENCES HE HAD, WHAT DOES EVEN MEAN IF YOU GET TO A PURPLE LEVEL, WHAT CHANGES REALLY HAPPENED? AND HE W THE ONE THAT I SAW, HE WASN'T PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR SAY WHAT W UH, THE CHANGES THAT WOULD HAPPEN, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY KNEW, OR NONE OF THAT WAS PLANNED YET. 
          I THINK NOW THAT FRANKLIN COUNTY FOR COLUMBUS HAS BEEN PUT ON A PURPLE LEVEL, THOSE, THOSE INSTRUCTIONS, OR THOSE ADVISORIES ARE GONNA START COMING OUT NOW FOR THOSE COUNTIES, BECAUSE THERE IS A PURPLE COUNTY, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK NOT TOO FAR INTO THE FUTURE TO SEE WHAT THAT MEANS FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND WHAT HAPPENS HERE. 
          SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR. 
          AND IF WE DID PREPARE SOME TYPE OF EVENT, A MODIFIED EVENT AT THE ACO BURGER, AND AT THAT LEVEL CHANGES INTO A LEVEL FOUR, I THINK WE GOTTA BE PREPARED TO SAY, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          MR. WEBB, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS ROB, FOR SENDING OUT THE, UM, RELEASE FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY. 
          AND AS I READ IT, I READ IT OVER SEVERAL TIMES. 
          IT'S APPARENT THAT THERE IS A, AN ADVISORY THAT IS TELLING PEOPLE TO STAY AT HOME, AND IT CLEARLY SAYS TO, UH, AVOID ATTENDING SOCIAL GATHERINGS AND SCHEDULING EVENTS DESIGNED TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. 
          I DON'T KNOW IT'S AN ADVISORY. 
          UH, I DON'T THINK AS RICHARD SAID, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, CALL OUT THEM ALL ALICIA, TO HAUL PEOPLE OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE GATHERING AROUND A CHRISTMAS TREE. 
          I AM CONCERNED THAT WE MIGHT BE INVITING PEOPLE TO GATHER AND FURTHER SPREAD OF COVID. 
          AS NANCY MENTIONED THROUGH SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE, THE HOT CHOCOLATE, THE KIDS PLAY AROUND, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          MY SUGGESTION, I GUESS, WOULD BE TO PRESENT THE ITINERARY FOR THE TREE LIGHTING TO THE, UM, UH, TO MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH AND ASK THEM IS THIS ACCEPTABLE. 
          AND IF IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT. 
          IT ISN'T ADVISORY FOR ISN'T. 
          AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. 
          THANKS, MAN. 
          EXTRA STREP, MR. HILL. 
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THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT, I MEAN, MENTAL HEALTH IS IMPORTANT, AND SO IT'S REALLY, UM, TO THAT POINT, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE CANCELING IT IF WE ARE GIVEN THE GO-AHEAD FROM MAIL DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT STREAMED IN SOME WAY TO FACEBOOK, SO THAT THOSE THAT DO WANT TO STAY HOME AND WANT TO STAY SAFE AT HOME, INSTEAD OF GOING TO IT ARE ABLE TO ALSO PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, I DID WANT TO SPEAK ON MR. SHAW'S STATEMENT THAT, UM, WE HAVE TO THAT, THAT IF WE HAVE THE EVENT THAT ALL SHOULD, UM, ALL COUNSELORS SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND ALL THE COUNSELORS SHOULD BE THERE. 
          I FEEL THAT I WAS KIND OF DEMEANING AND CALLOUS JUST TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE THERE. 
          UM, WHEN I BELIEVE THAT IT'S EACH INDIVIDUAL'S CHOICE AND THAT SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE APPROVED, APPROACHING IT IN A WAY THAT WE FEEL MOST SAFE. 
          UM, I, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IT, WHEN I AM CHOOSING DO THINGS OR NOT DO THINGS IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH PROTECTING MY FAMILY, FRIENDS AND MY COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, I LOVE CHRISTMAS THE MOST. 
          I MEAN, CHRISTMAS SEASON IS SUCH A BIG PART OF MY LIFE. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK ABOUT PRETTY MUCH ALL YEAR, I PUT LIGHTS UP AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IF I CHOOSE NOT TO GO TO A TREE LIGHTING, THAT'S MY CHOICE AND NOT SOMETHING THAT ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD FORCE UPON US. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS FOR SHARING. 
          APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS, MR. OTTO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD IN SOMETHING THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION EARLIER. 
          I KNOW THAT THROUGH TO SOME DISCUSSIONS, THERE ARE SOME VOLUNTEER MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE EVENT AS WELL, AND OTHERS WHO AREN'T. 
          UM, AND IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE SOME OF OUR STAFF OR WHATEVER, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS IN THE PAST, I, THAT THE EVENT GOES ON, I'LL AVAIL MYSELF, I'LL BE THERE THE WHOLE DAY. 
          SO I AM, I'LL BE THERE AND AVAILABLE FOR SET UP CLEAN UP OPERATION AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF AS WELL. 
          SO JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, I JUST, I DON'T WANT IT. 
          I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT IT TO BE SHUT DOWN DUE TO LACK OF MANPOWER. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF POINTS, UH, ONE FROM, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WEBB. 
          UM, I THINK THE SECOND PART OF THE CITY MANAGERS, UH, STATEMENT WAS ALSO REFERRING TO THE CURFEW THAT WAS INITIATED BY THE GOVERNOR FROM 10:00 PM TO 5:00 AM. 
          THAT WAS ME PROVIDING DIRECTION AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE WE NEED TO PUT POLICY TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO STOP AND ENFORCE THAT. 
          UM, SO I, I HOPE THAT BROUGHT A LITTLE CLARIFICATION TOO, TO THAT COMMENT, NOT TO THE CHRISTMAS TREE EVENT. 
          UM, ADDITIONALLY TO COUNCIL MEMBER HILLS, UH, UM, COMMENTS, UM, IT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO STATE THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER NEEDS TO BE THERE, BUT THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER EITHER NEEDS TO SUPPORT THIS, UM, EVENT MOVING FORWARD OR THE EVENT CANCELED ALTOGETHER. 
          UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMUNITY EVENT, UH, WE'VE JUST HEARD LATER, UH, EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON THAT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS CANCELED THEIR EVENT. 
          UM, THEY ARE STILL GOING TO LIKE THE TERRAIN, UM, IT'S, UH, GOING TO BE WITHOUT A CEREMONY WITHOUT AN EVENT. 
          UM, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS COUNCIL NOT ALL ATTEND, BUT ALL BE SUPPORTIVE OR WE FIND ANOTHER WAY. 
          UM, AND, AND MARY, YOU ACTUALLY BRING UP A VERY VALID POINT, UM, THAT IF THIS COUNCIL DOES MAKE A DECISION TODAY AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO CONTINUE SIGNING THOSE CONTRACTS WITH DIFFERENT VENDORS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AS LONG AS THEY FALL WITHIN THE ORDERS AND THOSE DOLLARS, UM, ENCUMBERED OR EX, UM, EXPENDED. 
          AND LET'S SAY A WEEK FROM NOW THAT WE DO TURN INTO A PURPLE SITUATION, THINGS DO ESCALATE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK TODAY WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION IF THAT OCCURS. 
          UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY THE CITY MANAGER HAS ASKED US TO, TO MAKE THAT POLICY DECISION. 
          AND SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE THREE POINTS. 
          AND JUST TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU MY OPINION, I DO BELIEVE THAT IF MONTGOMERY COUNTY DOES TURN PURPLE AND THINGS DO ESCALATE, UM, AS THE VICE MAYOR HAS INDICATED THROUGH HER RESEARCH, UM, THEN YES, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I THINK THE EVENT SHOULD BE CANCELED AT AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND HELP TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, TO YOUR POINT, MR. MAYOR, UH, THE SIX OF THE EIGHT INDICATORS INCLUDES DEATH AND ICU, UM, UH, INTUBATION. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY SERIOUS POINT BEING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL MEDICAL CENTERS WITHIN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, UM, AND A FEW OF THEM VERY CLOSE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT IS MY FULL AND WHAT I HOPE THAT DRAWS SOME, UH, SOME LIGHT TO SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE COMMISSIONER SHAW AND I, AND I WOULD, I WOULD JUST SAY TO, UH, I COULDN'T SUPPORT A PUBLIC GATHERING OR AN EVENT IF, IF WE MOVE INTO THAT FOURTH LEVEL OF, UM, UH, 
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OF AN ADVISORY OF PURPLE. 
          SO I THINK I DON'T MR. HILL, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED, UH, MRS. BAKER HAS HAD HER HAND RAISED FOR WAY FOR AWHILE. 
          SHE HASN'T, I HAVEN'T CALLED HER. 
          SO I'M GOING TO BED AND CALL ON, UH, MS. BAKER TO GIVE COMMENTS. 
          AND I KNOW, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER HAS HAD SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TOO. 
          YES. 
          MS. BAKER, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, JUST, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR GUYS' INPUT. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY VALUABLE. 
          I DO LIKE MR. HILL. 
          YEAH, I WAS ON MY LIST ALSO. 
          COULD WE ANYWAY, POSSIBLY FILM THE TREE LIGHTING OR HAVE LIVE STREAM SO PEOPLE COULD WATCH IT AT A TIME THAT IS CONVENIENT TO THEM AND A THROWN HOME. 
          THAT WAS ONE INPUT I HAD. 
          AND THEN, UM, IF RESIDENTS COULD SUBMIT THEIR ADDRESS TO HUBER HEIGHTS WEBSITE TO PROVIDE LIKE A DRIVE-BY LIST AND PEOPLE COULD STAY IN THEIR CARS AND DRIVE BY AND SEE THE LIGHTS, I THINK THAT'D BE A NICE SOCIALLY DISTANT ACTIVITY. 
          UM, I LIKE, I LIKE IDEAS. 
          I LIKE IDEAS. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD HAVE, UM, CHILDREN ARE USED TO SUBMITTING THEIR HOMEWORK BY SUBMITTING IT ELECTRONICALLY? IS COULD THEY SUBMIT THEIR LETTERS TO STAY IN US AUTOMATICALLY? COULD THAT BE SET UP? WE, YEAH, I'M SURE IT COULD. 
          CAUSE, I MEAN, WE HAVE A, WE GET A SEPARATE WEB ADDRESS OR A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT COMMENTS EVEN TO A, PRIOR TO A, TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING IF THEY WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTARY. 
          SO I CAN'T IMAGINE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET AN EXTENSION OFF THE WEBSITE, LOUIS SANTA BEING AT THE TREE LIGHTING, PEOPLE WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO SANTA CAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF OUR SMALL RESIDENTS. 
          YEP. 
          YEAH. 
          LETTERS THAT WERE SENT THEY COULD SEND ELECTRONICALLY AND WE'D MAKE SURE SAYING GOT IT. 
          YEP. 
          AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD PUT SANTA IN A WINDOW WITH A MICROPHONE AND THE CHILDREN COULD AT LEAST WALK BY OR COME BY AND SAY, AND HAVE LIKE A WALKING PARADE IN FRONT OF SANTA? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALLOWED IN THIS COVID AGE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK POSSIBLY SO, SO THOSE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS. 
          UM, KATE, I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          SO AS, SO LET'S, LET'S GO BACK HERE JUST ONE SECOND. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A MODIFIED EVENT, SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT EVEN WHERE WE'RE AT NOW WITH A LEVEL THREE, IF WE, IF, IF, IF COUNCIL IS FULLY SUPPORTIVE, UH, OF A MODIFIED EVENT, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING EVEN WITH WHERE WE ARE TO LEVEL THREE, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF MODIFICATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, NANCY, TO YOUR POINT, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE POINT. 
          I, I DO THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE A LEVEL THREE, NOW THE LEVEL THREE RIGHT NOW IS DIFFERENT THAN THE LEVEL THREE WE WERE EARLIER IN THE SUMMER. 
          I THINK THAT THE NUMBER OF CASES HAVE RISEN. 
          I THINK EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT FEEL LIKE IT'S STILL GOING ON AND MAYBE NOT AS BAD, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL AT A LEVEL THREE, IT WASN'T AS BAD, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO. 
          SO, SO I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THAT POINT, NANCY. 
          I DO THINK THAT IT IS WORSE NOW. 
          UH, WHEN THAT'S NOT ME THINKING WE ALL SEE THE EVIDENCE, WE KNOW THAT IT'S WORSE NOW THAN IT WAS. 
          SO, UH, I THINK IF, IF WE, IF COUNCIL, IF ALL OF COUNCIL WAS SUPPORTIVE OF AN EVENT DURING A LEVEL THREE, THEN IT DOES NEED TO BE MODIFIED THAT. 
          I THINK MAYBE SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT KATE HAD WERE SOME GOOD IDEAS ABOUT HOW THAT EVENT MAY BE MODIFIED, BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD, BUT I WOULD SAY THIS, I THINK NEXT WEEK, IF THIS TREND CONTINUES, WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY IS A PURPLE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEN FOR ME AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD BE ALL BETS OFF. 
          MR. SCHIRMER. 
          WELL, I HAD A FEW MORE, I'M SO SORRY. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO LIGHTING, MAKE SURE OUR CITY BUILDINGS ARE LIT UP THE POLICE STATION, THE FIRE STATION, AT LEAST SOMETHING PUT OUT FRONT. 
          SO THEY, AGAIN, GOING WITH THE DRIVE BY AND EVERYBODY STAY IN THEIR CAR IDEAS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SCHIRMER. 
          AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT LIGHTING UP CITY HALL, ACTUALLY AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, UH, THE, UH, THAT ARE, UH, VETERANS DAY CEREMONY. 
          AND I THINK, YES. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY HALL HAS SOME LIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO, UH, AS PART OF THE CENTER OF THE CITY. 
          I KNOW, UH, IF WE'RE ASKING BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS AND THINGS TO KIND OF LIGHT UP THEIR HOUSES AND DECORATE, THEN CERTAINLY CITY HALL CAN LEAD BY EXAMPLE. 
          WE CAN HAVE SOME LIGHTS UP, IT LIGHTS UP THERE AND MR. SCHUMER READ. 
          SO I THINK, UH, HE'S GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS FOR US. 
          UH, I'M GOING TO GO, UH, MRS. BURCH HAS HER HAND RAISED AND THEN WE'LL GO, OR ACTUALLY, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I WANT TO GIVE MR. SCHIRMER CHANCE. 
          HE'S HAD HIS HAND UP, THEN WE'LL GO TO MS. BERGE AND WE'LL GO BACK TO MR. HILL. 
          MR. SHARP. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, NO, JUST REAL QUICK. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR LAST FARMER'S MARKET, UH, THIS WEEKEND. 
          WE WEREN'T REALLY CONSIDERING THAT A SOCIAL EVENT. 
          WE WERE PLANNING ON MOVING ON WITH THAT. 
          WE HAVE SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY GETTING FRESH FOOD, UH, AND, AND OTHER GOODS FROM THAT, UH, PARTICULAR EVENT. 
          UH, IT'S THE LAST ONE OF THE SEASON ANYWAY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THAT WE HADN'T INCLUDED THAT IN OUR SOCIAL GATHERINGS, THAT WOULD BE UNDER CONSIDERATION UNLESS COUNCIL SALT DIFFERENTLY, A GOOD POINT. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TIMES I'VE BEEN TO THE FARMER'S MARKET, I THINK A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT GO THERE ARE REPEAT 
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CUSTOMERS. 
          AND I THINK THEY KIND OF KNOW THE DRILL, RIGHT. 
          SO, UH, AND WE ACTIVELY HAVE, UH, SARAH AND JOSH AND I'VE SEEN, UH, VINCE KING OUT THERE AT SEVERAL OF THOSE FARMER'S MARKETS. 
          SO I THINK PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE FARMER'S MARKET, THEY DEPEND ON IT. 
          THEY KNOW IT'S THE LAST ONE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF REPEAT CUSTOMERS AND THEY KNOW THE DRILL, THEY KNOW THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, THEY KNOW THE LINES, HOW THEY GO IN AND COME BACK OUT. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY TO WRAP UP AND KEEP DOING THAT THIS WEEK. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN COMPLIMENTED ACTUALLY BY THE, UH, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH STATE MONTGOMERY COUNTY FOR THE WAY THAT THAT'S MANAGED. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS ROB, MS. BURCH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MEETING NANCY WITH RESPECT TO THE FARMER'S MARKET. 
          WE'VE BEEN REALLY FORTUNATE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ONE RAINY SATURDAY, SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A REAL, REAL GOOD SUCCESS. 
          UM, AND I COMMEND THE STAFF FOR, FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          UM, THE OTHER QUESTION, THE QUESTION THAT I HAD IS, UM, ROBBIE, IF WE WAIT UNTIL MONDAY TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS, SO WE HAVE A BETTER FIELD FOR, UM, WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS THE COUNT WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE COUNTY. 
          UM, ARE THERE ANY CONTRACTS THAT YOU HAVE PENDING THAT MIGHT BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED? YOU'RE ON MUTE, ROB YOU'RE MUTED. 
          I AM. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YES. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL FIND OUT AND I'LL CHECK ON THAT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING WITH, UH, UH, WITH STAFF AND, UH, DETERMINE THAT AND, AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE STATUS OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO IT'LL BE A WEEK FROM TODAY, RIGHT? WHEN WE HAVE THE NEW NUMBERS IN TERMS OF THE, UM, CAUSE THURSDAYS AREN'T, THE THURSDAYS ARE MR. DUANE'S DAYS THAT HE GOES OVER THE, THE NUMBER. 
          SO IT'LL BE NEXT THURSDAY WHEN WE FIND OUT IF WE HAVE MOVED OR ADVANCED. 
          SO THAT PURPLE LEVEL IS THAT CORRECT? BUT WE'LL SEE THE TREND. 
          SURE. 
          IF WE KNOW WE'RE UP TO, IF WE DO HIT THE 10,000 CASE NUMBERS, AND I THINK WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO, UM, TO MAKE A COMMON SENSE CALL ABOUT HOW THAT EVENT WOULD OR WOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD. 
          MR. HILTON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO MR. SHAW, THAT I APOLOGIZE FOR MY MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE STATEMENT. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANKS FOR HELP, MR. WEBB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM ROB IN YOUR, UM, IN YOUR EMAIL TO US, YOU EVENTS, AND YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE TREE LIGHTING AND THE FARMER'S MARKET. 
          WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CALENDAR THAT I'M NOT TAKING IT ON? UM, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          OTHER THAN JUST SCHEDULE MEETINGS, I, I, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY COMMUNITY, UM, LIKE GATHERING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DOES, UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS INTO AT LEAST MAYBE GETTING BACK FROM ROB TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OUTSTANDING CONTRACTS OR ANYTHING THAT WE, UH, HAVE ALREADY PROMISED MONEY TO THAT MAY COME BACK, BUT EVEN THE, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT BEING THAT EXPENSIVE TO WHERE WE WOULD BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD BE WILLING TO ADVANCE AN EVENT, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF SOME MONEY, IF WE REALIZE THAT THOSE TRENDS ARE REALLY HEADING, HEADING IN A NEGATIVE, MORE NEGATIVE DIRECTION, THEY ALREADY ARE. 
          SO I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN TOMORROW AND OVER THE WEEKEND. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN MONDAY MONDAY'S MEETING KIND OF GET AN UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE ARE. 
          UM, AND THEN I THINK DECIDING THEN HOW SOON WE COULD MODIFY THAT EVENT, IF THE NUMBERS WEREN'T AS BAD, OR IF WE DIDN'T MOVE INTO THE PURPLE CATEGORY BY THURSDAY. 
          AND THEN I THINK IF, IF WE HAVE, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, IF WE DO MOVE INTO THAT PURPLE CATEGORY AS MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THEN AT THAT POINT, I THINK THAT CANCELLATION IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          MR. SCHIRMER. 
          UH, YES, I JUST WAS INFORMED. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MR. , WHO'S OUT THERE WATCHING AND LISTENING. 
          UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WE MIGHT NOT GET BACK RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THE SANTA SUIT RENTAL FEE AND, UH, THE REST OF THE CONTRACTS CAN WAIT. 
          SO THERE WILL BE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. 
          I DON'T THINK THE SANTA SUIT RENTAL FEE IS GOING TO BREAK US TO THE POINT OF, UH, PUTTING ON THE EVENT WHEN IT'S, UH, WHEN IT WOULDN'T BE, WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT TO DO SOMETHING. 
          SO I HOPE NOT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANKS. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          IS THERE MS. BURNS, DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? YEAH, I DID. 
          I QUICK QUESTION ON MONDAY, ROB, CAN WE HAVE AN IDEA OF IF WE'RE GOING 
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TO MODIFY IT, WHAT, UH, HOW WE WOULD MODIFY IT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, UH, TALK WITH STAFF TOMORROW AND, UM, MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS REGARDING SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I WAS GOING TO COME SIT ON HIS LAP, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AND, UH, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL ADDRESS IT ACCORDINGLY. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BAKER, IF YOU WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SOME GREAT IDEAS THAT YOU HAD. 
          WOULD YOU MIND, UH, SHOOTING MR. SCHIRMER, AN EMAIL, JUST KIND OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF YOUR IDEAS WERE, UH, UNDER THE SAME MANAGER, JUST SO HE CAN, HE CAN HAVE THAT AS SOON AS THEY HAVE THEIR STAFF MEETING, IT CAN KIND OF TAKE SOME OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          I'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SHAW. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION REGARDING THE CHRISTMAS TREE EVENT. 
          UM, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ASK THE CITY MANAGER IF HE HAS ENOUGH DIRECTION OR POLICY LEAD REGARDING THE CURFEW AND HOW HUBER HEIGHTS WILL ENFORCE THAT. 
          WELL, I, I CAN ANSWER THAT TO BE HONEST IN MY EMAIL THAT I, UH, UH, SENT TO, UH, REGARDING IT, THERE'S SOME AMBIGUITY IN WHAT THAT ORDER IS. 
          UM, AND THERE'S SO MANY EXCUSES AND REASONS THAT SOMEBODY COULD BE OUT EVEN PAST THE NOTED CURFEW. 
          UM, AND SOME OF THE ANSWERS GIVEN WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT CERTAIN PLAYS AND APPLICATIONS, UH, WERE LEFT KIND OF, WELL, NO, THAT'D BE OKAY AS WELL. 
          SO WITH THAT MUCH AMBIGUITY, I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD WANT TO, UM, REALLY RISK A STOP AND SEIZURE ON SOMEONE. 
          UH, AND WE WOULD ADDRESS IT IN A COMPLAINT BASED, UM, FORM WHERE, UH, LIKE ANY, LIKE WHEN THERE WAS A STAY-AT-HOME ORDER AND WHEN THERE WAS A LACK OF GATHERING AT HOMES, IF THERE APPEARED TO BE AN ISSUE THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS IT, BUT JUST THE COMMON CITIZEN THAT WOULD BE, UH, OUT IN CONDUCTING PERHAPS THEIR BUSINESS, GOING TO GET SOME TAKEOUT, FOOD, UM, COMING HOME FROM WORK, UH, GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, UM, DOING ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PERMITTED USES. 
          UM, THERE'S REALLY NO REASON FOR US TO GO OUT AND ATTEMPT TO IDENTIFY WHY PEOPLE ARE OUT AT 10 O'CLOCK. 
          I CERTAINLY, AS A PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR WOULD NOT ADVOCATE THAT. 
          I THINK THAT THAT POTENTIALLY POSES A LIABILITY RISK, UH, TO THE CITY, UM, UNLESS WE HAVE A REAL GOOD PROBABLE CAUSE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS OUT WOULD BE OUT, UH, INDIRECT VIOLATION OF THE ORDER. 
          AND I THINK THE PARAMETERS OF THAT WOULD BE HARD TO MEET BY JUST GENERAL OBSERVANCE OF PEOPLE OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I KNOW I'VE, I'VE HAD THAT QUESTION POSED TO ME, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS ON VARIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND, AND I AGREE THE, THE CONVERSATION WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE, UH, WHEN ASKED BY A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, UM, EVEN, UM, UH, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          I DON'T EVEN THINK THE ACTUAL SIGNED ORDERS EVEN BEEN RELEASED, EVEN THOUGH IT GOES INTO EFFECT TONIGHT. 
          I DIDN'T LOOK FOR IT LATER THIS AFTERNOON, BUT, UH, YESTERDAY I WAS LOOKING FOR ONE AND DIDN'T SEE WHAT, YEAH, I, I KNOW THIS AFTERNOON, I DIDN'T SEE ONE. 
          I KNOW OML HAS NOT SENT THAT COMMUNICATION OUT AS THEY TYPICALLY DO. 
          UM, SO THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO EVEN REALLY KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR, WHAT TO ENFORCE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. 
          I THINK THERE'S SOME SOLID GUIDELINES IN THE CURRENT DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, UM, ADVICE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE RUN INTO SITUATIONS WHERE THERE ARE GATHERINGS OF PEOPLE OR COLLECTING IN A PARKING LOT, OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BUT IF SOMEBODY IS ISOLATED BY THEMSELVES, DRIVING IN A CAR, YOU KNOW, THAT IN OF ITSELF DOESN'T POSE A RISK IN ACCORDANCE TO THE ORDER. 
          UM, I THINK OUR COMMUNITY CAN REST EASY THAT OUR POLICE ARE NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND ACT AS A POLICE STATE AND PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DOING THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE PROSPECTS OF THAT ORDER. 
          COMMUNICATION. 
          THANK YOU, ROB. 
          SO JUST ANOTHER POINT, ANOTHER POINT OF DISCUSSION HERE. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE HAD, I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, BUT YOU GUYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, UM, POSTING ALL OF OUR SIGNAGE AND, UH, ON CITY BUILDINGS. 
          AND NOW LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THOSE THREE DIFFERENT ALERT LEVELS THAT WE HAD BASICALLY AS A CITY. 
          SO IF IT COMES DOWN TO, UH, SO THE REASON I BRING THIS UP TONIGHT IS WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MEETING ON A MONDAY, BUT THEN WE WOULDN'T MEET AGAIN UNTIL THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY, I GUESS THAT PURPLE LEVEL POSSIBLY WOULD COME OUT BETWEEN THE TIME OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN A FOLLOWING WORK SESSION. 
          I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF DAYTON TOOK A PRETTY BOLD MOVE, WHERE THEY CLOSED DOWN ALL OF THEIR CITY BUILDINGS AND THEIR CUSTOMER COUNTERS. 
          SO THEY'VE ELIMINATED ANY PERSONAL ONE-ON-ONE CONTACT BECAUSE IN THE CITY OF DAYTON ALREADY, IF WE DO FIND OUT THAT WE HAVE ADVANCED TO THAT LEVEL FOR EMERGENCY, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, NOW THAT'S FINE, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT OUR RULES ARE OR WHERE WE WOULD FALL ON THAT ALERT LEVEL 
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OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, WATER DEPARTMENT, OPEN TAX DIVISION, OPEN, UH, PEOPLE COMING IN TO CITY HALL, PERMITTING, ALL THOSE THINGS, ANY INTERACTIONS FACE-TO-FACE THAT PEOPLE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE WITH ANY CITY EMPLOYEE? I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO START AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF WE ADVANCE INTO THAT LEVEL FOUR. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME DEFINITION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE AND CLASSIFY OURSELVES AS AN OFFICE ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND BASED ON THE ORDERS OF THE STATE, IF OFFICE ENVIRONMENTS HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOSED, LOBBIES, ET CETERA, LIKE THEY HAD EARLIER IN THE YEAR, THEN WE WOULD FOLLOW SUIT. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE THINK OF OURSELF IS, UM, NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER BUSINESS IN THE CITY THAT WOULD, UH, BE REQUIRED TO BE OPEN AND PROVIDE SERVICES. 
          IN FACT, UM, IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT AT A HIGHER LEVEL BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ASSOCIATED TO PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES AND TO JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, CLOSED DOWN WHEN OTHER BUSINESSES ARE STILL REMAINING OPEN, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD FALL OURSELVES IN LINE WITH WHAT THE DIRECTION OF THE LIKENED SIMILAR BUSINESS WOULD BE. 
          SO, UH, IF GOING TO PURPLE MEANS THAT WE FALL BACK INTO SOME OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE IN THE, UH, ORIGINAL ORDER ISSUED, UH, FROM MARCH APRIL-ISH, UH, THEN ABSOLUTELY WE'RE PREPARED TO GO BACK INTO THAT ACTIVE STATUS. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STILL CONTINUE PROVIDING ALL SERVICES AS WE DID BEFORE. 
          UH, WE WOULD JUST REMOVE ANY TYPE ACTUAL PERSONAL PREFERENCE. 
          SO WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT IF THAT'S WHAT, UM, UH, WHAT THE ORDERS CALL FOR, UM, WE'VE BEEN THERE AND DONE IT BEFORE. 
          IT WAS PRETTY SEAMLESS AND SMOOTH. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL BE PREPARED TO DO THAT AGAIN. 
          PERFECT. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST, SINCE NOBODY'S BEEN PURPLE YET, EXCEPT FOR TODAY, I DON'T THINK ANY, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY REGULATIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS SEEN, WHAT AN ACTUAL STATUS OF ALL THE BUSINESSES AND CITY OFFICES WOULD BE INSIDE OF A COUNTY. 
          CAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY YET UP UNTIL TODAY. 
          SO YES, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THOSE INDUSTRY DEFINITIONS WITHIN THE ORDER. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE TYPICALLY FALLEN INTO THAT, UH, SMALL OFFICE ENVIRONMENT, UH, BASED ON THAT. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN GO DEEPER AND FIND THAT THERE'S EXCEPTIONS FOR GOVERNMENT. 
          SO, UM, BUT WE TRY TO FOLLOW AND SET THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT, UM, SOMEBODY LIKE AND SIMILAR AND OPERATIONS THAT WE WOULD DO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS A BUNCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE ON TOP OF THAT AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          SO, AND I DID HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM IF WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE REGARDING THE MAIN FEED UP THERE, I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, JUST THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR, UM, FOR THAT DISCUSSION. 
          UH, I THINK IT WAS GREAT. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT AND I THINK WE HAVE A DIRECTION GOING FORWARD, MR. SCHIRMER, IF YOU'D HOLD UP JUST ONE SECOND, MRS. BERG IS HER HAND. 
          SHE MIGHT HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          UH, NANCY. 
          YEAH, I DO. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, I READ TODAY THAT OUR POSITIVITY RATE WAS 13 AND I THINK THE TRIGGER POINT IS 15 WHEN WE GO PURPLE. 
          SO, UM, THAT MAY BE AN INDICATOR EVEN BEFORE, UM, WE GET THE FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT JUST AS A POINT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BIRCH. 
          GOOD INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, BEFORE, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED, SO I'M GONNA ASSUME THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE EVENTS. 
          I THINK WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD, MR. SCHOMER, UH, THE, ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOUR REPORT? YES, I HAD ONE MORE THING. 
          UM, THERE WAS A, A YOUNG LADY NAMED MCKAYLA ALERTS SHE'S ATTENDING, UM, UH, KINDERGARTEN AND A K THROUGH 12 ONLINE SCHOOL HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE WAS, UH, WAS, UH, ASSIGNED TO DO WAS TO CREATE A MAP OF HER CITY AND SHE HAS DONE SO HER, UH, HER MOM HAS SUBMITTED THAT TO US AND ASKED THAT WE SHARE IT. 
          SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, DISPLAY THAT AND SHOW THAT I THINK IT'S A VERY COMMENDABLE WORK. 
          SO LET ME A PRETTY LEVEL. 
          DO WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT GRADE WAS SHE IN AGAIN? UH, KINDERGARTEN. 
          KINDERGARTEN, YES. 
          I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS. 
          YES. 
          AND AS SOON AS MY SCREEN ALLOWS ME TO SHARE IT, WELL, I WILL, UH, MAKE ONE MORE ATTEMPT HERE AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON. 
          I THINK I KNOW WHY. 
          GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          THERE WE GO. 
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THAT'S NOT, IT IS I, IF FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT GIVING ME THAT OPTION TO SHARE THAT PARTICULAR, UH, PICTURE, UM, AND SHAME AND SHAME. 
          IS THERE A WAY TO PRINT IT? OH, WAIT. 
          I'M SEEING, IS THERE, THERE WE GO TO PRESENT? SO I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO DROP IT IN A, IN A WHOLE NOTHER WINDOW HERE. 
          DO YOU SEE, YOU SEE A BLANK? HOW'S THAT? OH MY GOD. 
          THAT'S STELLAR. 
          YEAH, THERE WE GO. 
          AWESOME. 
          WELL, JEFF, THAT'S PROBABLY BETTER THAN YOURS, HUH? YES. 
          YOU DON'T WANT ME DRAWING ANYTHING THAT'S FOR SURE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THERE WE GO. 
          THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS FANTASTIC. 
          THAT WAS GREAT. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S THAT'S WHAT, SO HERE. 
          SO WHAT WERE THE THREE BUILDINGS THAT WERE ON THERE? I SAW, I SAW THE RECIPES, ET CETERA. 
          WHAT WERE THE BUILDINGS? YEAH, THE AQUATIC CENTER, THE MUSIC CENTER, CARRIAGE HILL AND GET AIR. 
          IMAGINE THAT, IMAGINE THE TOP FOUR PLACES OF HUBER FOR A KINDERGARTNER. 
          I THINK IT'S WHAT THE FALL. 
          YES. 
          OH, THAT WAS A GREAT, WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND THANKS TO HER MOM FOR SOME THAT DIDN'T AND THAT WAS GREAT. 
          YES. 
          [  Power Cots - AFG Grant - Award Contract - Fire Division]
OKAY. 
          SO NEXT UP, WE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE B, WHICH IS THE POWER COTS FOR THE AFG GRANT, THE WORDING THAT CONTRACT, UH, THIS IS WHAT THE FIRE DIVISION AND I SEE XIV, ASHWORTH. 
          HOW ARE YOU, SIR? MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          I HOPE EVERYBODY'S DOING WELL. 
          YES. 
          AS YOU REMEMBER EARLIER IN THE YEAR, BATTALION CHIEF, KEITH KNISELY HAD ACQUIRED A GRANT FROM HOMELAND SECURITY, OR IF IN THE AMOUNT OF $243,000 FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF POWER ASSISTED COST FOR EACH AMBULANCE AND INCLUDED IN THAT WAS A LOADING SYSTEM BY THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT. 
          WE HAD TO PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND WE HAD ONE VENDOR RESPOND, WHICH IS THE VENDOR THAT WE ASSUMED WOULD HAVE RESPONDED TO ANYWAY. 
          SO WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO AWARDING THE CONTRACT. 
          SO TONIGHT'S ASK IS TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO A COMPANY CALLED STRYKER, UH, THE COST OF THE POWER COTS, UH, AND UNLOADING CAME TO $219,697 AND 50 CENTS. 
          THE REMAINING MONEY IN THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED WILL BE USED. 
          WE HAD TO PAY FOR THE INSTALLATION OF LOAD SYSTEM. 
          SO THAT WILL BE USED OVER, UH, THE REMAINING PORTION OF THAT. 
          AND IF THERE IS ANY MONEY LEFTOVER IN THE GRANT AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT, WE CAN PETITION FEMA TO ALLOW US TO USE THAT FUNDING FOR OTHER NECESSARY, UM, NEEDED EQUIPMENT. 
          BUT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS FIRST. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO, UH, USE EVERY DIME WE POSSIBLY CAN OUT OF THAT GRANT. 
          BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID EARLIER TONIGHT TO ASK IS TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD THE CONTRACT, TO STRYKER IT'S ABOUT A 10 WEEK PROCESS BY THE TIME WE ORDER AND GET THE EQUIPMENT IN AND THEN GET THEM INSTALLED. 
          AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE POWER COT, THE CREWS WILL NOT HAVE TO PICK UP A PATIENT WHILE ON THE COT MANUALLY. 
          AND ALSO THE SYSTEM HAS A CANDIDATE LEVER LOADING SYSTEM THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO PHYSICALLY PICK THE COT AND THE PATIENT UP TO PUT THEM IN THE BACK OF THE EMILE. 
          SO THE SYSTEM DOES IT ALL THIS WILL HELP REDUCE, UM, NUMEROUS INJURIES BACK STRAINS AND STRAINS, RIGHT? THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S AWESOME NEWS COLLABORATING, UH, GOT A GREAT TO GET THOSE THINGS GOING INSTALLED AND A GREAT JOB TO HAVE A TINY CHEAT NICELY AGAIN, FOR, FOR ALL THE MONEY THAT HE'S BROUGHT INTO THE FIRE DIVISION, UH, OVER THE YEARS IN THE FORMS OF THESE GRANTS, ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY EVENING NOW FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. 
          WE'LL SEE IT. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL. 
          [  2021 Annual Legislation      *  Public Works Division - Various Goods and Services]
ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE C, WHICH IS THE 2021 ANNUAL LEGISLATION. 
          UH, UH, THE FIRST PIECE OF THAT IS THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION ON DIFFERENT VARIOUS GOODS AND SERVICES FROM THEM. 
          MR. SHARP. 
          YES. 
          AS YOU SEE IN THE, UM, AGENDA PACKET, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. 
          IF YOU RECALL, TOWARDS THE END OF EACH YEAR, WE GO THROUGH A SERIES OF, UH, PIECES OF LEGISLATION. 
          WE ACTUALLY USED TO DO EACH ONE OF THESE LISTED AS INDIVIDUAL PIECES OF LEGISLATION, BUT, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE, UH, IN, IN THANK YOU COUNCIL, UH, FOR THAT, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO COMBINE INTO ONE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A THREE HOUR LONG MEETING GOING THROUGH, UH, READING ALL OF THESE, UH, BUT WHAT THESE, UH, WHAT, WHAT THESE ARE, ARE BASICALLY THE ITEMS THAT WE KNOW STARTING JANUARY ONE, WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH ENCUMBRANCES FOR PURCHASE ORDERS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF OPERATIONS FOR THE CITY IN 2021. 
          SO 
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YOU SEE IN THIS ONE, UH, WE'VE GOT ROAD SALT, DICING, TREE SERVICES, DIESEL, FUEL GASOLINE, ET CETERA, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE KNOW AND WHAT WE DO, AND THE REASON WHY IT IS, UM, UH, IT IS NOTED AS WAIVING. 
          THE COMPETITIVE BID IS THAT ALL OF THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS WE BUY OFF OF THE CURRENT, UH, STATE BID SCHEDULE. 
          SO THAT IS WHY THAT IS LISTED THERE. 
          AND, UM, THE ASSIGNED AMOUNTS ARE THE AMOUNTS THAT WE ARE ASKING AND NOT TO EXCEED REGARDING THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. SO WE ASKED THAT THE RESOLUTION BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING FOR ADOPTION. 
          THANKS FOR SHORT. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, PURCHASE. 
          [       *  Various Departments/Divisions - Various Vendors]
OKAY. 
          SO THEN WE HAVE THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT IS THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS THROUGH OTHER VARIOUS VENDORS. 
          UH, THOSE COMMENTS THE SAME, OR DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? ROB COMMENTS ARE THE EXACT SAME. 
          UH, THE, THE REASON THAT THE WAVING OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS HERE IS BECAUSE ALL OF THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS ARE EITHER HAVE A SPECIAL SKILLS, KNOWLEDGE, OR PROPRIETARY KNOWLEDGE AND OR SOLE SOURCE. 
          SO, UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, LIAISES THE, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE AUDITORS, UM, PEOPLE WHO WE GET SPECIAL EQUIPMENT FROM, THAT'S WHAT, UH, THAT'S WHAT THIS LIST IS AND THE ESTABLISHED RESPECTIVE, UM, NOT TO EXCEED COSTS. 
          SO WE ALSO ASKED THIS ONE IS CONSIDERED THE SAVING FOR ADOPTION. 
          APPRECIATE IT, ROB, ARE THERE, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO, TO MONDAY? OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE'LL MOVE. 
          [  Supplemental Appropriations]
UH, NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE D WHICH IS OUR SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS. 
          MR. BELL, IF I CAN JUMP IN REAL QUICK BEFORE JIM GOES, I JUST WANT TO, UH, I JUST WANT TO PAY, UM, MAKE SPECIAL ATTENTION IN NOTICE ON A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, IN THE PACKET YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL AND I WANT TO MAKE A DISTINCT, UM, NOTICE OF A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY I'M GOING TO START REAL QUICK WITH THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER. 
          UH, NOT HAVING A SEASON THIS YEAR, OBVIOUSLY ARE COUNTED ON REVENUE, BUT IF YOU SEE THERE, UH, WE HAVE, IN MY OPINION, A VERY LOW, VERY EFFICIENTLY MANAGED COST THROUGH ALL THE WAY UP TO ALMOST THE LAST MINUTE. 
          UH, WE WERE STILL TRYING TO PROMOTE, UH, ADVERTISE AND BE PREPARED FOR, UH, CONCERTS. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT. 
          UH, OUR GREAT PARTNER WITH ME, ME, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT ITEM RIGHT THERE AND THAT NUMBER, UM, WE'VE NOT YET APPLIED THE SPONSORSHIP MONEY FROM THE, UH, NAMING RIGHTS SPONSOR, STEWART MADE ME ROSE FOUNDATION. 
          SO, UH, I THINK THAT IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SOME OF THE, UM, ITEMS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, COST OFF TO THE CARRIER ZACK WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE TOUCHLESS FEATURES, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PERFORMANCES, UH, I THINK THE IMPACT CONSIDERING OUR GREAT SUCCESS YEARS PAST, UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A BLIP ON THE RADAR. 
          SPEAKING OF THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, WE CAN, WE CAN JUDGE AND RATE THINGS AS TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. 
          A LOT OF TIMES BY WHAT PEOPLE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN, UH, ME AND MR. CAMPBELL, WE'LL TALK IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO. 
          AND WE'RE JUST TALKING GENERALLY ABOUT CONSUMER CONFIDENCE IN THINGS IN THE ECONOMY AND STOCK MARKETS, ET CETERA, UH, LIVE NATION, OBVIOUSLY AS A WELL-KNOWN, UM, UH, CONCERT PROMOTER, RIGHT? THE LIVE NATION IS A, UH, IS A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY. 
          AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR STOCK CHART OR THE PRICE OF THEIR STOCKS PRE MID AND POST COVID, AND THEN WHERE WE ARE NOW, UH, THEY WENT FROM ABOUT A $70 STOCK AND THEY PLUMMETED DOWN TO ABOUT A $20 STOCK. 
          WELL, WITH THE RELEASE OF THE INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE INFORMATION ON THE PROPENSITY, THE POSSIBILITY ACTUALLY THE ACTUALITY OF A VACCINE, UH, PEOPLE HAVE STARTED RE-INVESTING KNOWING THAT THERE'S A 20, 20 SEASON FOR ENTERTAINMENT COMING AND THAT STOCK PRICE IS BACK UP TO WHAT ITS NORMAL PRICE IS. 
          UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I THINK THAT MEANS THAT IF PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO INVEST, UH, AND, AND KNOW THAT THEIR INVESTMENT IS GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, RETURN WELL, THEN THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE EFFORTS BEING MADE IN THE PERFORMANCE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY IS PRETTY SOLID. 
          SO, UH, I, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT, UH, THERE'S TWO THINGS THIS, AND THEN THE SUPPLY, THE SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUDGET REGARDING OUR PROJECTED REVENUE, UH, IS REALLY GOING TO CHANGE. 
          SO, UH, UH, I, I REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD STORY. 
          THE NEXT ONE GOING INTO THE AQUATIC CENTER, UH, WE NOTICED THAT, UM, THE AQUATIC CENTER, UH, HAD A DIFFERENCE IN TECHNICALLY, WHAT DID IT COST THE CITY TO OPERATE THE AQUATIC CENTER THIS YEAR? UH, IT COSTS 81,000. 
          I KNOW LAST WEEK YOU SAW A DOCUMENT THAT HAD 91, UH, THERE WERE SOME EXPENDITURES IN THERE THAT WE HAD ALREADY COVERED. 
          UH, AND 
          [00:55:01]
AS WE GO THROUGH, AS WE ALWAYS DO AND FINALIZE AND ACCOUNT AND RECONCILE ALL OF OUR EXPENSES BETWEEN NOW AND THE REST OF THE YEAR TO CLOSE OUT 2021, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME ADJUSTMENTS. 
          SO, UH, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS SOME CAP, UH, SOME MAINTENANCE AND OTHER RELATED STUFF, UH, THAT WAS ALREADY COVERED OUT OF THAT. 
          THE OVERALL COST OPERATE THE AQUATIC CENTER. 
          IF ANYBODY HAS ANY GUESSES, I'LL TELL YOU, UH, THIS YEAR WAS ABOUT $538,000. 
          SO OUT OF 500, 30, $8,000, IF THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE TO COVER IS 81, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY DARN BARGAIN, PRETTY DARN GOOD BARGAIN, UH, FOR, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING SOME OF THE, UM, UH, DIFFERENCES IN OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR SOME OF THE INVESTMENTS WE MAKE IN THE PARKS, UH, SOME INVESTMENTS LIKE THE NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND, UH, IN BELLE PLAINE PARK, UH, THE OPERATION CUTTING GRASS, PAINTING, DOING THINGS TO TOM CLOUD, ET CETERA, WHERE THERE ISN'T A GENERATOR REVENUE STREAM. 
          SO THE COST OF HIS FACILITY THAT BIG, UH, AND THAT ATTRACTIVE TO ONLY COST THAT MUCH. 
          UH, I THINK THAT THE, UH, THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING A PRETTY GOOD BARGAIN. 
          AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE RESIDENTS ENJOYED HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THAT FACILITY, THIS, UH, THE SUMMER. 
          SO, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, SOMEBODY COULD PROBABLY PUT A NEGATIVE SPIN AND SAY, HEY, WE LOST MONEY. 
          NO, I'M NOT SURE WE DID. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IT COSTS 538,000 TO OPERATE IT. 
          AND, UH, WE JUST NEED TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE OF 81,000. 
          UH, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD INVESTMENT. 
          I BET OUR TAXPAYERS AND OUR IN OUR RESIDENTS WOULD, UH, WOULD ALLOW US TO TAKE THAT GAMBLE AND MAKE THAT BET EVERY YEAR FOR THEIR BENEFIT. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO TOUCH ON THOSE TWO THINGS, UH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE KIND OF LARGE-SCALE AMENITIES AND, AND, AND, AND ALMOST SEPARATE BUSINESS OPERATIONS WITHIN THE CITY. 
          UH, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GIVE IT ITS DUE ATTENTION TO NOTICE, UM, BEFORE JIM TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE REST OF ALL OF THE, UH, UH, THE THINGS THAT THE SUPPLEMENTAL. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM, ROB. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. 
          AND, UM, AND, AND KIND OF BRINGING THAT UP. 
          SO, UH, CAUSE I DO, I, I DO BELIEVE THE SAME THING. 
          I DO BELIEVE OUR RESIDENTS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE, EVEN NON-RESIDENTS, WE'RE, WE'RE EXTREMELY HAPPY THE RULES WE HAD ABOUT, UH, RESIDENT DAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THE AQUATIC CENTER OVER THE YEAR, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF SUMMER, I THINK WORKED REALLY WELL. 
          UH, PEOPLE WERE HAPPY AND, AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. 
          SO THANKS FOR THAT UPDATE. 
          UH, YES, UH, QUITE A FEW THINGS TO GO OVER, UH, A VERY BUSY WEEK AND FINANCE THIS WEEK. 
          UH, THE, THE NOTE PROCEEDS, UH, UH, NO SALES WERE YESTERDAY, UH, FOR ALL THE LAND PURCHASES AND PROPERTY PURCHASES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          AND THE, UM, FRIDAY WILL BE THE, UM, THE LEASE WILL BE FINALIZED FOR THE ENERGY EFFICIENCIES IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE GOING ON FOR THE MAJORITY OF NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THOSE ARE ON HERE. 
          UM, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER BACK IN MARCH, UH, WHEN MARION MEADOWS WAS, UM, UH, PURCHASED, THAT WAS, THERE WAS AN ADVANCE FROM GENERAL FUND TO THE TRANSFORMATIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. 
          UM, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE NOTES DONE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO REIMBURSE THAT ADVANCE. 
          SO THAT 2,602,000 IS GOING TO GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. 
          UH, WE'VE ALSO GOT, UM, UH, I WANTED TO PUT IN HERE, UM, ADVANCED FUNDING FOR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL. 
          I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW BIDS ARE GOING OUT SOON. 
          SO THIS ALLOWS FOR, UH, WE ALREADY, WE STARTED WITH 200,000 AND I'D LIKE TO BUMP THAT UP TO A MILLION. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S HERE. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL'S ON BOARD WITH, WITH GOING FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN CASE THERE WERE ANY EXPENSES THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR THAT WE AT LEAST HAD SOME BUDGET TO WORK OFF OF. 
          AND THEN I'VE GOT ADDITIONAL MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR IN CASE, UH, IN CASE THAT, UH, THE BIDS COME IN LARGER THAN $1 MILLION. 
          THE NEXT ITEM, UH, 220,009, 28 32. 
          YOU JUST HEARD FROM CHIEF ASHWORTH. 
          UH, THIS IS THE FEMA PORTION, THE GRANT PORTION OF THOSE POWER CUTS. 
          SO I NEED TO BUDGET THAT, UH, WHEN THAT FEMA MONEY COMES IN, THAT MONEY WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE FEMA FUND OVER TO THE FIRE CAPITAL FUND. 
          AND, UM, LATER, UH, AT THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE THE 243,800 2115 THAT'S FOR THE POWER COTS. 
          UM, I HAVE TO EXPENSE THE WHOLE AMOUNT OUT OF THE FIRE CAPITAL FUND, AND THEN THAT REIMBURSEMENT WILL COME BACK TO THEM WHEN THAT FEMA GRANT MONEY IS RECEIVED. 
          THE, UH, NEXT ITEM IS $3 MILLION. 
          AS I MENTIONED FOR THE ENERGY EFFICIENCIES IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UH, THAT, UH, CAPITAL LEASE WILL BE, UM, UH, GO INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT. 
          SO I'M GOING TO RECORD THAT AS LIKE A MEMO REVENUE, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE EXPENSES FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          AND SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET A PO START WORKING ON, ON THOSE ITEMS AS THEY COME UP. 
          I THINK, UH, SOME ITEMS ARE ALREADY, UM, UH, GETTING STARTED AND THERE'LL BE A LOT GOING ON NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, ROB ALREADY MENTIONED THE, UH, UH, THE DIFFERENCES FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER AND THE MUSIC CENTER. 
          AND, UH, THOSE ARE THE NEXT THREE ITEMS. AND THEN, UM, THE ITEM UNDER THAT $398, IT'S A DECREASE, UH, TO THE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUND. 
          UH, ACTUALLY I HAD A BUDGETED, UH, THEY TOLD US AT THE BEGINNING 
          [01:00:01]
OF THIS, UH, FOR THE CARES ACT MONEY THAT I NEEDED TO BUDGET FOR NOT ONLY THE CARES MONEY THAT CAME IN, BUT MY ESTIMATE AS TO HOW MUCH INTEREST WE WOULD EARN ON THAT MONEY, I ESTIMATED $500. 
          UH WE'RE UH, RIGHT NOW THE INTEREST HAS BEEN $102. 
          SO I NEED TO REDUCE THE BUDGET TO ASK COUNCIL TO REDUCE THE BUDGET BY $398 TO MATCH THE, UH, ZACK MONEY PLUS THE INTEREST EARNED ON THAT MONEY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A REDUCTION TO THAT. 
          UM, AND THE, UH, DUE DATE IS TOMORROW FOR ALL OF THE, UM, EXPENSES BEING TURNED IN TO THE, UH, FINANCE PORTAL, UH, FROM, UH, OPPOSITE BUSINESS BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT. 
          AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT, UH, IF THERE IS MONEY, WE'VE SPENT ALL OF THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO US, IF THERE'S ANY MONEY AVAILABLE, UH, THAT SHOULD COME BACK OUT TO US FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY ON THE 25TH. 
          SO THAT'S A QUICK TURNAROUND, UM, UH, FOR THEIR PART. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, AND, UH, SO WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL MONIES TO BE REDISTRIBUTED, I WILL, UH, LET EACH OF, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THROUGH ROB THE, UH, NEXT ITEM, $7,400 IS FOR THE OH DOT SMOOTH SEAL COAT. 
          UH, THIS WAS AN ODAT, UH, PAVING PROJECT. 
          THEY ASK US TO PAY, UM, I FORGET IT'S EITHER 10% OR 20% OF THAT COST. 
          AND, UM, WHEN THE FINAL COSTS CAME IN ON THAT, UM, THE INITIAL AMOUNT THAT WE PAID IN WAS NOT QUITE ENOUGH. 
          SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL $7,400. 
          SO THAT NEEDS TO BE AN INCREASE IN THE BUDGET WAS NOT ANTICIPATED. 
          UH, THE FINAL ITEM 5 MILLION, 230, $4,172 IS FOR THE, UH, VARIOUS, UH, PROPERTY, UH, RELATED PURCHASES AND ADDITIONAL EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          AND AS I SAID, UH, THAT IS, UH, COVERED BY THE NOTE PROCEEDS THAT WERE JUST RECEIVED YESTERDAY. 
          AND I WOULD ASK THAT ALL OF THESE, UH, BE APPROVED ON MONDAY, IF YOU COULD. 
          SO, UH, SOME OF THESE EXPENSES COULD, UH, UH, IN PURCHASE ORDERS COULD START TO BE OBTAINED. 
          THANKS, JIM, APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO GO THROUGH AND CERTAINLY, UH, I WOULD ADD, YES, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN BUSY THIS YEAR AND AS, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THINGS, JUST KIND OF TALKING TO HIM AS MY MEMORY GOES BACK, KIND OF REFLECTS ON WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW, HOW MUCH WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR IS WE'RE KIND OF GETTING DOWN TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR, HOW MUCH WE GOT ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY'VE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN. 
          I THINK, UH, THE EFFICIENCY AND THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE AND WHAT THIS, UH, COUNCIL HAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND APPROVED. 
          I THINK AS WE MOVE INTO 2021, I THINK WE'RE IN ABLE TO LOOK BACK AT 2020 AND FIND THAT IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF OUR MOST PRODUCTIVE YEARS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE DONE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO, UH, THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK, UH, IF THERE'S SEED MR. MR. WEBB, MR. OTTO, MR. CAMPBELL'S MOST HAVE THEIR HANDS RAISED. 
          SO, UH, WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, SO WE'LL SEE A LITTLE SERIOUS GO. 
          MR. WEBB, YOU HAD YOUR HAND RAISED FIRST, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT, PLEASE COME HERE. 
          OH, THIS IS JUST A COMMENT TO JIM, UH, IN READING THE, UM, UH, THE RITA HEAD MATERIAL YOU PROVIDED THE WAY YOU'VE GOT THE LISTED OUT, UH, VERY CLEAN, EASY TO UNDERSTAND, AND I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AT. 
          UH, IT'S VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK ANY OF OUR, UH, RESIDENTS WHO WOULD READ THIS COULD EASILY SEE WHAT THE CHANGES ARE IN THE BUDGET. 
          THE NUMBERS ARE CLEAN AS A GREAT JOB. 
          I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU TO SHERWEB. 
          WE'LL GO TO MR. OTTO AND THEN, UH, TO MR. CAMPBELL. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT WHO GO TO, BUT JUST CURIOUS, HOW DID WE GET TO THE MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER FOR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL? YEAH, I CAN ANSWER THAT. 
          AS YOU RECALL, WE HAD ESTABLISHED A, A PROJECT AND WE'D INDICATED IN THAT PROJECT, UH, A, A, A PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          SO IN ANTICIPATION OF, UM, THE RFPS, UH, COMING BACK AND ANTICIPATION OF APPROVAL OF ONE OF THOSE RFPS BASED ON THE DESIGN, UH, WE WERE, WE WERE CHARGED, UH, TO GO OUT AND GET A DESIGN, UH, WITHIN THOSE BUDGET PARAMETERS. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE THAT WE'RE WE'RE, WE JUST GOT TO, I THINK, YESTERDAY, UH, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TURN THAT INTO BID DOCUMENTS HERE AND GET IT RELEASED HERE SOON BY THE END OF THE MONTH, WHICH WAS OUR TARGETED DATE, UH, AS I GAVE HIM MY UPDATE, IF YOU RECALL, UM, THE, UH, THE ONE THING THAT, UM, UH, JIM, DID YOU WANT, DID YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON THE BWC AS TO HOW, UH, WE TOOK OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, UM, RIGHT NOW? SURE. 
          AND IN CASE THE COUNCIL'S NOT, UH, AWARE, UH, THROUGH THE, I THINK 
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IT'S BEEN MENTIONED IN THE OML BULLETINS THAT COME OUT ON FRIDAYS, THAT, UM, WE WILL BE RECEIVING A THIRD BWC, A PREMIUM REFUND THIS YEAR. 
          UH, WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED ONE FOR ALL OF THE PREMIUMS THAT WE PAID IN FOR 2018 AND FOR 2019. 
          AND SO SINCE THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN REDISTRIBUTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL FUNDS WHERE THE WORKERS ARE PAID OUT OF THIS THIRD REFUND, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE 3.72 TIMES THE LAST REFUND, UH, ESTIMATED TO BE OVER $800,000 COMING INTO THE CITY, UM, THE AUDITOR OF STATE HAS RULED THAT WE CAN PUT THAT INTO THE GENERAL FUND, ALL OF THE PROCEEDS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DIRECT REFUND OF PREMIUMS ALREADY PAY IT'S ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT THE STATE IS REIMBURSING TO ALL, UM, EMPLOYERS, UH, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. 
          SO, UH, DEFINITELY WANT TO PUT THAT INTO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND SO THAT ALLOWS US TO, UH, INCREASE WHAT WAS A BUDGET OF 200,000 FOR EXPENSES THIS YEAR FOR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT, UH, INCREASE THAT TO A MILLION DOLLARS WITHOUT ANY TRUE INCREASE TO THE, UH, GENERAL FUND BUDGET, BECAUSE WE WILL BE GETTING, UH, UH, $800,000 AT LEAST OF REVENUE THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE. 
          THANKS, JIM. 
          THAT WAS GREAT NEWS, JIM. 
          THAT WAS GREAT NEWS CAMPBELL, UH, JIM BELL, UH, THIS IS A PERSONAL COMMENT. 
          I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR DEDICATION DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED AND HOW LUCKY THE CITY IS HAVING USE OR FINDINGS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          HAVE A GREAT STAFF. 
          YOU, YOU CERTAINLY DO, AND THEY'RE GUIDED BY A GREAT MAN AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I WOULD ECHO THOSE COMMENTS. 
          GREAT JOB, JEN. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD OR BEFORE I GUESS? OH, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MARK, UH, YOU, WERE, YOU FINISHED, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING, UH, THE SUPPLEMENTALS ONTO MONDAY'S COUNTY HEARING AND SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE THOSE 
          [  CARES Act Expense Declaration]
ONTO MONDAY. 
          NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE E WHICH IS THE CARES ACT EXPENSE DECLARATION I'M MR. BELL, IS THAT YOU AGAIN AS WELL? UH, YES, IT IS. 
          UH, AS I MENTIONED, UM, UH, PART OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL WAS TO REDUCE THE, UH, HERE'S THAT EXPENSES THAT I HAD PREVIOUSLY ASKED TO BUDGET FOR, UH, BY A $398. 
          UM, WHAT THIS IS IS, AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE DONE THIS. 
          UH, I WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THIS MEETING, SO THAT WAY ALL OF THE EXPENSES CAN BE GIVEN TO YOU AND YOU CAN DECLARE THEM AS NECESSARY. 
          THIS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE STATE AS A, UH, AN ADDITIONAL WAY TO PROVE THAT THE COUNCIL IS THE BORE, UH, BEHIND ALL OF THE EXPENSES. 
          AND, UM, AND THIS RESOLUTION DECLARES THEM ALL AS, UH, NECESSARY FOR OUR, UM, FIGHTING, UH, THE PREVENTION OF THE CORONA VIRUS SPREAD. 
          AND, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE, UH, UM, PURCHASED A NUMBER OF THINGS. 
          UM, THERE IS STILL, UH, $83,454 THAT HAS NOT BEEN A CHECK WRITTEN FOR, BUT THAT IS OUR, UM, PROJECT THAT WE'VE GOT WITH THE TOUCHLESS FEATURES. 
          AND, UH, THEY'RE WORKING HARD TO GET THOSE ALL COMPLETE BY THE END OF DECEMBER. 
          UH, THE, UM, THE RULES FROM THE, FOR USE OF THIS MONEY IS BY TOMORROW'S DATE. 
          WE HAD TO HAVE EVERYTHING EITHER SPENT OR ENCUMBERED, UH, FOR A PROJECT THAT HAS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          AND WE'VE MET THAT DEADLINE AND THIS LEGISLATION JUST, UH, IT, IT, UH, TAKES THE, UM, UH, LEGISLATIVE BODY TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE BEHIND THIS. 
          UH, WE APPROVED THIS AND THAT SHOULD HELP DURING OUR AUDIT NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, WHEN THEY COME INTO AUDIT THE USE OF THESE, UH, FUNDS HAVE OVER $2.2 MILLION. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING US ONTO MONDAY AS WELL? IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU SHOULD MENTION THAT THERE'S THE AMENDED EXHIBIT A, UH, THERE WAS MR. IF YOU NEED TO CANCEL, THAT WILL BE THE ONE THAT WE'LL BE APPROVING, NOT THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT WAS IN THE PACKET. 
          YES, YES. 
          UH, I, I DID HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT CAME OUT LATE TODAY. 
          UM, AND, UH, ONE OF THE, UM, I HAVE, UH, IN, IN TRANSFERRING THE MONIES FOR THE, UH, POLICE AND FIRE PAYROLL, I HAD ACTUALLY TRANSFERRED UP TO THAT $500 INTEREST INCOME LEVEL. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I HAD TO AMEND, UH, WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING TONIGHT, UH, FOR THE ACTUAL EXPENSES. 
          I BACKED OFF THAT $398 OF THE TRANSFER. 
          UM, SO, UH, THAT WAS DONE EARLIER TODAY AND HAD TO SUBMIT IT TO YOU AS AN AMENDED VERSION. 
          SO I APOLOGIZE THAT, UH, THE, UH, HAD TO 
          [01:10:01]
AMEND A YET AGAIN, WHAT I SUBMITTED TO YOU ON TUESDAY, NOT TO WORRY ANY OBJECTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL MOVE THAT ONTO MONDAY AS WELL. 
          NEXT 
          [  County Assessments Authorization]
IS ITEM THREE F WHICH IS THE COUNTY ASSESSMENT AUTHORIZATION. 
          UH, YES, THAT WOULD BE A UNDER MY DOMAIN AS WELL, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          SO AS YOU KNOW, I COME TO YOU, UM, PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR WITH, UM, ASSESSMENTS THAT NEED TO BE SENT TO THE COUNTY. 
          AND, UH, THE ONES I'VE GOT BEFORE YOU, UH, TONIGHT ARE, UH, ATTACHED AN EXHIBIT A AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, PRIMARILY FOR GRASS AND WEEDS, UH, PEOPLE THAT, UM, THAT, UH, THE CITY, UH, TOOK CARE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE NOTIFIED THE CITY, UM, ALREADY WENT TO THE EXPENSE OF, UH, PAYING FOR THOSE TO BE DONE. 
          UH, THERE'S JUST A FEW OTHER ITEMS, UH, ONE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND FOR TRASH AND LITTER ASSESSMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. 
          AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS, UH, WE'D HAVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES, APPROVE THIS ON MONDAY NIGHTS, SO WE CAN GET THIS TO THE COUNTY, UH, IN GOOD TIME, SO THEY CAN GET THIS, UM, ASSESSED FOR NEXT YEAR'S PROPERTY TAXES. 
          THANKS, MR. BELL, MR. SHAW BUSH. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, UH, JIM OR ROB, UH, COULD YOU CLARIFY, UM, EXACTLY WHAT COUNTY PUBLIC ENTITY, UM, HAS REQUESTED US TO DO THIS? I KNOW OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE TO DO IT AS WELL. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT DIRECTION INITIALLY CAME FROM COUNTY AUDITOR? I BELIEVE JIM, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          MADE EVERYTHING LIKE THIS TO THE COUNTY ON HER. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY OBJECTIONS? NOT THAT MR. SHAW HAD OBJECTION, BUT ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SEEING, HEARING, SEEING, AND HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THOSE ASSESSMENTS ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING 
          [  Diversity Needs Assessment]
THE NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE G, WHICH IS A, UH, THE DIVERSITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          UH, THE, UH, CULTURAL DIVERSITY SYSTEMS ACTION COMMISSION HAS, UH, HAS, HAS BEEN TALKING. 
          UH, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THEY'VE DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, UH, THAT THEY WOULD APPRECIATE, AND LIKE A NEEDS ASSESSMENT KIND OF FROM THE COMMUNITY TO SEE, UH, SOME ITEMS THAT THEY SHOULD BE SPENDING SOME TIME ON AND FOCUSING ON. 
          SO I WOULD, UH, JUST MOVE THIS OVER TO ROB, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, OR KIND OF WHAT THIS PROCESS MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          UH, SO WE CAN HELP, UM, GET SOME DIRECTION, UH, FROM, FROM COUNCIL, UH, ON, ON THIS COMMISSION AS WELL. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S PRETTY BASIC. 
          WE JUST, WE JUST WANT TO EXPLORE WHAT OPTIONS WOULD BE INVOLVED IN A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE, UM, UH, STAFF GOING OUT, UM, IN FINDING THOSE OPTIONS, UH, HEARING THE, UM, THE, THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF WHAT THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THAT. 
          AND THEN ALSO AS COUNCIL. 
          SO I KNOW KATIE'S, I BELIEVE ON THE CALL, UH, SHE'S THE STAFF LIAISON THAT'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION. 
          SO, UH, IF, UH, IF SHE'D LIKE TO JUMP IN I'D YES. 
          HI, THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          SO YES, THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION, AND OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO, TO, UM, DISCUSS PRIORITIES OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          AND THIS IS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES THEY'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, SO THEY'D LIKE TO DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WOULD SURVEY THE COMMUNITY TO HELP GAUGE, UM, HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT DIVERSITY INCLUSION THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND MAYBE WILL HELP DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS, IF ANY, COULD POSSIBLY BE ADDRESSED, UM, OR TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS UPON. 
          SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING, UM, TO REQUEST THE AUTHORITY, TO HELP IDENTIFY THOSE NECESSARY FUNDS AND TO BUDGET THOSE ITEMS ACCORDINGLY, UH, THE COMMITTEES THEY'VE BROKE OUT INTO COMMITTEES AND ALL THE COMMITTEES THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, ITEMS THEY WANT TO BE LOOKING AT. 
          SO AS I GET THOSE ITEMS AND WE GET MORE INFORMATION, UM, WE CERTAINLY WILL BRING THOSE ITEMS BACK, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S MORE OF, UM, GETTING THE AUTHORITY TO IDENTIFY THOSE NECESSARY FUNDS SO WE CAN BUDGET THOSE ACCORDINGLY. 
          THANKS. 
          KAY. 
          UH, MR. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, YES. 
          UM, JUST, UH, A, A BIT OF CLARIFICATION. 
          I DO KNOW THAT INITIALLY WHEN THIS, UM, UH, COMMISSION WAS FORMED, UH, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ON A, UM, A COMMUNITY WIDE SURVEY. 
          UM, IS THIS INCORPORATED INTO THAT ACTUALLY, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, KIND OF A MULTITUDE OF THINGS GOING ON IN 2021. 
          WE HAD PLANNED WITH OUR, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, COORDINATOR, OBVIOUSLY SARAH AND, UM, HAD GOING INTO 2021. 
          WE HAD ALREADY KNOWN EVEN BEFORE THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION WAS FORMED. 
          THE 2021 WAS A YEAR THAT WE WERE GOING TO ASSEMBLE A GENERAL COMMUNITY THING, FINDING OUT THINGS LIKE YOU FEEL SAFE, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT IS NECESSARY, UM, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GAUGE OUR DELIVERY OF SERVICES AND SEE WHAT IMPACTS 
          [01:15:01]
WE NEED TO MAKE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE UPCOMING, UH, SURVEY AS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, UH, REGARDING THE SINGLE, UH, TRASH HAULER PROGRAM AND ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC AS WELL, UH, DIRECTED AROUND, UH, CULTURE AND DIVERSITY RELATED, UH, NEEDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ASK IS REALLY TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF SEEKING OUT A FIRMER CONSULTANT AND GET SOME PROPOSALS TO SEE WHAT AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE SEEKING OUT WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE. 
          UH, OF COURSE, W W YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND MAIN CONTRIBUTORS TO THAT BEING OUR OWN CULTURAL DIVERSITY COMMISSION, UH, BUT UTILIZING, UH, THE INDUSTRY STANDARD AND BEST PRACTICE TOOLS TO ENGAGE THAT. 
          SO, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY INCORPORATED INTO THAT GENERAL, UM, COMMUNITY SURVEY. 
          UH, THIS ONE WE SAW AS MORE OF A, UH, TARGETED, UH, SPECIFIC DIRECTING, UH, YOU KNOW, DESERVING OF, OF A, UM, UH, ITS OWN PROCESS, UH, FOR, FOR, UH, FOR THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY A WHOLE LIST OF PRIORITY SO MUCH MORE COMPLEX. 
          UM, WE'RE JUST GOING TO WRAP IT ALL INTO ONE, RATHER THAN WRAPPING IT ALL INTO ONE. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU WRAP IT ALL INTO ONE, I THINK THAT YOU LOSE IMPORTANCE AND THINGS GET MISSED, AND QUITE FRANKLY, PEOPLE WOULD NOT GIVE IT AS MUCH ATTENTION, YOU KNOW, WE ENVISION, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THE FIRM IS GOING TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING. 
          IN ADDITION TO JUST A SURVEY, PERHAPS FOCUS GROUPS, UH, PERHAPS SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND ACTIVITIES MUCH. 
          LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU IMAGINE THE BRAND PIKE REVITALIZATION STUDY, UH, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, FAR MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN, THAN A, A DIVERSITY OF CULTURE NEEDS ASSESSMENT INVOLVING MANY OTHER LAYERS. 
          BUT THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED TO IDENTIFY THAT FINAL REPORT IS BASICALLY, UH, WHAT WE ENVISION A FIRM OR A PROFESSIONAL WOULD RECOMMEND. 
          SO WE NEED TO GET OUT THERE AND ASK SOME OF THEM TO SEE WHAT THE BEST APPROACH TO THAT WOULD BE. 
          UH, BUT WE FELT, UH, UH, THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION CERTAINLY WANTS TO PUT IT ON THEIR PRIORITY LIST. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON, UH, BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING ON, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO, UH, TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, UH, BRING BACK, UH, SOME PROPOSALS, UH, TO ESTABLISH THE FUNDING, UH, THAT WOULD BE NEEDED GOING INTO 2021 FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UM, ACTION. 
          PERFECT. 
          MARY, MY LAST POINT IS, UM, AND, AND I'M SURE WE'RE DOING THIS. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION, UH, WITH, UH, MS. NICELY HERE BEING THE STAFF LIAISON THAT, UM, ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE WITH, UM, WITH JOBS, OHIO DAYTON DEVELOPMENT COALITION, A LOT OF SPECIALTY RESOURCES WITHIN THE AREA THAT THIS COMMUNITY IN THE CITY IS A PART OF, UM, THAT, UM, DO OFFER SOME ASSISTANCE. 
          WE ARE PROVIDING THAT AND REACHING OUT TO OUR PARTNERS TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE OR WITH OUR PARTNERS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK AT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AS JUST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTED FIRST STEP, UM, INSTEAD OF GOING OUT AND HIRING AN OUTSIDE FIRM LUNCH, LET'S, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, LET'S PARTNER LET'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US IN THE REGION THAT KNOW, YOU KNOW, OUR REGION, OUR INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN SHARE A LOT OF OUR COMMONALITIES. 
          AND THEN IF AT THAT POINT, UM, WE ARE STILL AT A STALEMATE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GETTING, UM, YOU KNOW, VALID INFORMATION THEN I THINK AT THAT POINT, WE LOOK OUTSIDE THE BOX. 
          THAT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          THOSE ARE CERTAINLY ITEMS THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO AS WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GO TO MR. OTTO AND THEN TO MS. BURCH. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. 
          I, AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF YOU KNOW, THAT I LIKE TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH ALL THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, COMMISSION MEETINGS AND WHATNOT. 
          AND SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THEM IN PERSON NOW, WHICH I'D PREFER TO ATTEND, BUT, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL REMOTE. 
          NOW. 
          WE'VE HAD SOME VIDEO ISSUES AND WHATNOT. 
          I STILL WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, AND I'VE NOTICED WITH THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION, LET ME NOTE, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH SURVEYING OUR COMMUNITY IN PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS AND VIEWS ARE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION IS BEHIND THESE ACTIONS AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GET THOSE, IF WE HAVE VIDEOS OF THOSE MEETINGS, UM, OR WHATEVER, WE COULD GET THOSE POSTED FOR REVIEW, OR, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO WATCH THOSE AND, AND PARTICIPATE WITHIN THOSE MEETINGS. 
          I KNOW THAT THEY ALL ARE PRODUCED THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THE, UH, THE LINK DOT H-HOW H.ORG/REMOTE MEETING LINK AS PUBLISHED AS PART OF THE MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          UM, AND ANYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO CLICK THAT TEAM'S LINK AND MONITOR AND VIEW AND PARTICIPATE IN THOSE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          UH, THE ACTUAL 
          [01:20:01]
COMMITTEE, THE ACTUAL COMMISSION MEETINGS ARE LIVESTREAM LIKE ANY OTHER COMMISSION MEETING THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UH, THE RECORDINGS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING. 
          UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. 
          WE DO HAVE THEM, UM, THAT WE ARE IN THEIR LARGE FILES. 
          LET'S JUST SAY THAT. 
          SO WE'RE IN A PROCESS OF, UM, FINDING A WAY TO GET THOSE POSTED SWAG. 
          IT DOES ALL OF OUR OTHER RECORDINGS. 
          SO, UH, WE'VE GOT THOSE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE POSTED ONTO AGENDA QUICK, UM, AS AN ATTACHMENT. 
          SO THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT WE DO HAVE THEM, UH, AND, UH, WE, UH, WE DO INTEND TO HAVE WE'LL CATCH UP WITH GETTING THEM POSTED AND THAT COMMISSION IS VERY ACTIVE. 
          UH, WE CAN HARDLY KEEP UP WITH GETTING ONE MEETING POSTED AND THEY HAVE ANNOUNCED AN AGENDA, UH, FOR ANOTHER. 
          SO, UH, TRY TRYING TO, TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH, UH, THE MANAGEMENT OF KEEPING THE BACKEND OF THE OPEN MEETINGS, PART OF THAT, UM, OF THAT COMMISSION. 
          SO, UM, ALL THE, ALL THE TOOLS ARE IN PLACE. 
          WE'VE JUST GOT TO GET IT ASSEMBLED INTO THAT COMMON AREA OF AGENDA QUICK, WHERE PEOPLE CLICK LOOK AT A THING AND FIND A VIDEO, BUT IF SOMEBODY NEEDS A COPY OF A VIDEO OR SOMETHING, UH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT ON THUMB DRIVE RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THOSE UPLOADED AND STREAMED ONTO THE, UH, THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WE USE, THE SWAG AND AGENDA QUICK. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF UNDERSTANDING WHY DECISIONS ARE GOING THE WAY THEY ARE, WHY REQUESTS ARE GOING THE WAY THEY ARE. 
          IT JUST FILLS IN BLANKS. 
          IT MAKES THINGS A LOT EASIER. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND A GREAT, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BIRCH. 
          YES. 
          UH, KATIE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF, UM, MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION JUST HIRED A GENTLEMAN WHO COMES FROM WASHINGTON, DC, WHO IS AN EXPERT IN, UM, IN, UM, EQUITY, EQUITY AND DIVERSITY ISSUES. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THEY BROUGHT HIM HERE TO, UH, THE MIAMI VALLEY IS TO HELP THE COMMUNITIES AROUND HERE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT OUR COMMISSION IS TRYING TO DO. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT GUYS, THEY MISS CARLTON ELA, BUT I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. 
          AND SINCE IT'S WITH MBR RPC, THERE SHOULD BE NO CHARGE TO US, BUT HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME REALLY GOOD GUIDANCE ON THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH THIS AND WHAT AREAS TO FOCUS ON. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT COULD BE A GOOD RESOURCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BERKSHIRE, BRINGING THAT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO A, TO MONDAY WHERE A STAFF WILL HAVE, UH, OR LOOK TO APPROPRIATE THE FUNDING AND THINGS TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE NEEDED ASSESSMENT COMPLETED, UM, YOU KNOW, TO WORK ON THAT? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WOULD MOVE, MOVE ON? ARE WE GOING, LOOKING AT ANY OTHER, UM, UH, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER SOURCES OR MAYBE AS MRS. BIRD SAID, OR IS THIS SOMETHING STAFF'S RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO AHEAD AND AT LEAST THIS PORTION TAKE CARE OF SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? YEAH. 
          I, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE LEGISLATION WOULD BE AFTER THIS DISCUSSION, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          UH, WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT THE, UH, MVR PC, UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL TAP INTO THAT. 
          WE MAY HAVE, UH, LEGISLATION AT LEAST AUTHORIZES IF NECESSARY, UH, TO AT LEAST SEND OUT AN RFP TO SEEK PROPOSALS. 
          THAT'S THAT DOESN'T REALLY COST US ANYTHING YET. 
          AND I THINK AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING WHAT THE BUDGET MIGHT BE, I THINK WE WAIT TO SEE UNTIL WE GET SOME OF THOSE PROPOSALS AND INFORMATION BACK, UH, BEFORE WE IDENTIFY THAT. 
          BUT, UH, W WE, UH, WE MAY HAVE A, UH, A RESOLUTION FOR MONDAY, UH, THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE, UH, DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WOULD GO OUT RIGHT AWAY, BUT AT LEAST AUTHORIZE US TO, UH, TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          SO I DO KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, SO SOME OF OUR OTHER BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS HAVE, UM, HAVE FUNDING. 
          THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE BUDGETS AND LIKE A B. 
          SO I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ORIGINAL CREATION OF THE, THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION, UH, THEY WERE GOING TO WANT TO PUT ON SOME EVENTS. 
          I THINK THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE ON KIND OF THE, THE CULTURAL FESTIVAL NOW OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER. 
          AND, AND WITH COVID A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, UH, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HAPPEN, BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO 2021, AND, AND THE MORE ACTIVE THAT THEY GET, THE TYPES OF THINGS THEY WANT TO DO, UH, I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERING WHAT TYPE OF FUNDING OR W OR BUDGET WE'D BE PREPARED TO ALLOCATE FOR THIS COMMISSION THE SAME AS WE DO A AND B AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THEY DO BRING THINGS TO THE CITY AND THEY, THEY PUT ON EVENTS. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND CONCERN THE SAME THING FOR THIS COMMISSION. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL BE THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          AND, AND STAFF WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF RECOMMENDATION COMES BACK AS, AS WE LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THE NEEDS ARE. 
          I THINK THE NEEDS WOULD HELP DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF A BUDGET THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD GET ESTABLISHED FOR THE COMMISSION. 
          SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SO ROB, CAN WE JUST EXPECT THEN MAYBE, UH, THE, THE RFP TYPE LEGISLATION FOR, FOR MONDAY'S MEETING REGARDING 
          [01:25:01]
THIS, BUT NOTHING MORE SPECIFIC THAN THAT IN THE RFP? YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          WE WOULD NEED TO, UM, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT PROPOSALS COME BACK. 
          SO BEFORE WE, UH, SEE WHAT WOULD BE INVOLVED. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          [  Montgomery County TIF District Extension]
OKAY. 
          SO, UH, THAT TAKES US ON TO, UH, ITEM THREE H WHICH IS THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIF DISTRICT EXTENSION. 
          UM, AND ANYTIME WE TALK ABOUT, UM, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AND THE CITY, UH, SO FAR I HAVE, UM, I HAVE BEEN RECUSING MYSELF FROM THESE PORTIONS OF THE MEETINGS. 
          I'VE TALKED TO MR. UM, MR. MCDONALD. 
          AND ALTHOUGH I, DON'T NOT A HUGE ISSUE HERE, UH, JUST TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH HOW I'VE DONE THINGS BEFORE, UH, I WILL, UH, MOVE ON AND LET MRS. BURCH HANDLE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. 
          AND I SEE, UH, MR.  ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ON, ON HERE AS WELL. 
          SO I'M ASSUMING HE'S GOING TO LEAD PROBABLY LEAD THAT DISCUSSION. 
          UH, BUT FROM AT LEAST FROM THIS POINT, UH, I WILL, UH, I WILL REMAIN OUT OF THE DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT. 
          SO MS. BURGERFI WOULD, YES. 
          WILL, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ONCE AGAIN, ITEM H MAJOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIP DISTRICT EXTENSION, UM, MR. , UH, YES. 
          MA'AM. 
          UM, SO, UM, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS, UH, PLAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IT'S ONE SKI TO SKI. 
          WE ALL, WE ALL, WE ALL KNOW THE LANGUAGE YOU'RE SPEAKING. 
          UH, THE, UH, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS PUT IN PLACE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, JURISDICTIONS WHO HAVE, UH, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IN PLACE, UH, TO EXTEND, UH, THE LEGISLATION OR TO EXTEND THOSE DISTRICTS PROVIDED THAT, UH, THE DISTRICTS MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, ONE OF OUR DISTRICTS DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR EXTENSION, AND THAT IS THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIF DISTRICT. 
          AND SO WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO ENTERTAIN LEGISLATION, UM, TO EXTEND THAT TIP AND SO EFFECTIVELY, UM, ANY PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY RECEIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE TIF WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT BENEFIT FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS. 
          AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO CAPTURE, UH, DOLLARS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE TAX DOLLARS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE GO TO, UH, DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THOSE. 
          UM, WHAT COUNSEL WOULD NEED TO DO IS, UH, YOU WOULD NEED TO, UH, ENTERTAIN THIS LEGISLATION IN TWO READINGS, UM, AT THE NEXT TWO RESPECTIVE COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          AND WE WOULD ASK YOU TO ENTERTAIN THAT LEGISLATION AS AN EMERGENCY MEASURE ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF VACATING, THE REFERENDUM PERIOD AT THE END OF THE SECOND READING, UH, THERE IS AN OBLIGATION UNDER THE LAW THAT, UH, ANY TIFF EXTENSION BE, UH, APPROVED AND IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE REASON THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR YOU, UM, TO, UH, TO ADOPT THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE AS A, UM, EXCUSE ME, AS AN EMERGENCY. 
          UM, YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE PACKET, UH, WE DID INCLUDE A NOTIFICATION LETTERS, COPIES OF NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT WILL BE SENT TO, UH, BOTH, UH, THE HUBER HEIGHTS SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, AS WELL AS TO THE, UM, MIAMI VALLEY, UM, CAREER, UM, FOLKS. 
          UH, SO WE'LL SEND THOSE OUT, UH, ASSUMING THAT, UH, TOMORROW ASSUMING COUNCIL W WOULD MOVE, UH, MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD. 
          SO THEY'LL RECEIVE NOTICE, AND THEY'LL BE GIVEN AN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL, UH, AND PRESENT ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THIS LEGISLATION PRIOR TO YOUR, UH, ENTERTAINING, UH, THE LEGISLATION FOR ADOPTION. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS MA'AM THAT YOU OR OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE IF I COULD SUPPLEMENT HIS, HIS COMMENTS REAL QUICK BEFORE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, UH, YOU'LL SEE, LATER ON IN OUR, IN OUR, ONE OF OUR DISCUSSIONS, THE GREAT SUCCESS AND ESTABLISHING THIS FUNDING SOURCE, UH, IN A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT, UH, THAT THIS MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIFF HAS BEEN AND WHAT IT'S BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, UH, COMING ACROSS AND SEEING THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          I THINK A COUNCIL HAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO FURTHER SUSTAIN, UM, FINANCIAL SUCCESS AND STABILITY AND INVESTMENT DIRECTLY BACK INTO THIS COMMUNITY. 
          YOU LOSE UTILIZING THIS SOURCE. 
          AND THAT'S THE KEY THING IS MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE HARD EARNED DOLLARS THAT OUR TAXPAYERS PAY GO RIGHT BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO MEET WITH A PERSPECTIVE, UH, NEW BUSINESS, UH, LOOKING AT A FEW AREAS. 
          AND ONE OF THE PARTICULAR THINGS THAT HE WAS MOST IMPRESSED ABOUT WAS THE REINVESTMENT AND ABILITY FOR US TO CAPTURE AND RETAIN OUR OWN LOCAL DOLLARS AND THE DESIRE AND THE, AND THE CULTURE SET BY THIS COMMUNITY OF MAKING SURE TO, TO, TO KEEP THOSE DOLLARS INVESTED RIGHT BACK IN ITSELF. 
          SO, UM, AND I THINK THE STATE HAS RECOGNIZED THAT THAT MAKES US COMPETITIVE, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL JOBS IN THE STATE. 
          AND WE LOOK AT IT IN WAYS OF THREE PRIORITIES. 
          WE WANT THE JOBS TO OUR STATE, 
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THEN WE WANT THE JOBS TO OUR REGION, AND THEN WE WANT THE JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S A WIN ALL THE WAY. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SUPPLEMENT THE COMMENTS WITH THAT, THAT THIS IS SUCH A GREAT, EXCITING OPPORTUNITY. 
          UH, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT TO CELEBRATE REGARDING THE SUCCESS OF THE DECISIONS MADE, UM, PREVIOUSLY ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE USE OF THIS TIF. 
          SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT IN MR. CAMPBELL, UH, BRIAN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          DID I UNDERSTAND RIGHT. 
          THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 30 YEARS? UM, SO THIS IS, UH, THIS SIR IS THE ROLLING TIF. 
          AND SO THE WAY THAT, SO THE WAY THAT THE LEGISLATION READS IS THAT ANYONE WHO'S CURRENTLY RECEIVING THE BENEFIT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THE BENEFIT. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, ANYONE WHO'S COME OFF OF THE TAX INCREMENT CAPTURE. 
          WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO APPLY THAT NEW, BUT ANYONE WHO'S CURRENTLY ON IT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EXTEND. 
          SO, UM, I WON'T SAY THAT WE WOULD GARNER ANY NEW MONEY FROM THIS, UH, THIS EXTENSION, SIR, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CAPTURE ADDITIONAL MONIES IN THE FUTURE THAT WE WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO CAPTURE BASED ON THIS LEGISLATION. 
          AND AM I GRASPING THE EXTENT OF THIS AND COULD IT BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? UH, IT WOULD BE A CONTINUATION. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, LAST YEAR WE COLLECTED APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF MILLION, JUST OVER ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. 
          SO IF WE WERE TO EXTEND, UH, THAT LEGISLATION, SO WE COULD IN THEORY, EXPECT TO RECEIVE THAT AMOUNT CONTINUOUSLY GOING FORWARD, RIGHT. 
          FOR THE NEXT 30 YEAR PERIOD, WITHOUT THIS LEGISLATION, EVENTUALLY THAT NUMBER WOULD DECREASE OVER TIME BECAUSE THE, THE CAPTURES WOULD WEAR OFF AFTER THAT 30 YEAR PERIOD. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. 
          SO 5 MILLION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S LEGITIMATELY 30 MORE YEARS BASED ON A TIFFT BUSINESS BUILDING PAPER MEANT THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. 
          EVERYONE WHO IS RECEIVING THE TIF, UH, WHO IS, UH, WHO WE ARE RECEIVING THE TIF BENEFIT FROM. 
          WE WOULD CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THAT BENEFIT BASED ON THIS LEGISLATION FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS BASED ON WHERE THEY ARE TODAY. 
          AND MAY I ASK WHO RAN ACROSS THAT? WHO, WHO FOUND THIS? UM, UH, I WANT TO SAY THAT BOND COUNSEL, UH, CHRIS ROZMAN ATTORNEY, CHRIS FRANZEN BROUGHT THAT TO, UH, TO MR. BELL'S ATTENTION. 
          AND THEN MR. BELL BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION. 
          SO, UM, IT CAME IN THROUGH, UH, THROUGH BOND COUNSEL AND, AND INTO THE RIGHT HANDS. 
          WHAT, ROB, WHAT DO WE SPEND ANNUALLY ON OUR INTERIOR STREETS PROGRAM? UM, I DON'T KNOW, JIM, DO YOU KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HAND? I KNOW WE, WE JUST, WE INCREASED IT FOR THIS YEAR. 
          YES. 
          UM, I THINK COMBINED, UH, BETWEEN CURB GUTTER, UM, SIDEWALKS STREETS, UH, ABOUT $2 MILLION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. 
          AND IS THIS MONEY BRIAN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? UH, OBVIOUSLY NOT ENCUMBERED YET? UH, CORRECT. 
          BUT FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE HAVEN'T REALIZED IT, SO, UM, BECAUSE WE REALIZED THAT IT'S MONEY THAT COULD BE PUT BACK INTO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          SO, UM, I THINK MR. BRAS, OR IT'S GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION A LITTLE LATER, UM, IN, IN, UM, IN TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT HE'S GOING TO DEMONSTRATE IS, UM, THE NET INDEBTEDNESS RELATED TO THE CURRENT MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIF FUND. 
          AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, THE TIMING OF THE TIFF REVENUES FALL OFF ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS THAT DEBT SERVICE FALLS OFF BY PASSING THIS RESOLUTION, THE REVENUES WOULD CONTINUE AT THE SAME LEVEL IN THEORY THAT THEY ARE AT TODAY, BUT THERE WOULD NOW BE NO OFFSETTING DEBT. 
          SO SOMEWHERE AROUND, UH, I THINK IT'S 20, 34, 2033, SOMEWHERE IN THERE, WE WOULD EFFECTIVELY HAVE ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF REVENUE GENERATED FROM THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIFF THAT HAS NO CORRESPONDING EXPENSE TIED TO IT. 
          SO THAT IS WHEN WE WOULD REALLY TRULY REALIZE THIS BENEFIT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SURE. 
          MR. SHAW, I THINK YOU WERE NEXT. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, BRIAN, AND, UM, JUST FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WATCHING, UM, THE, THE EXHIBIT A, COULD YOU KIND OF, UM, GO OVER THAT AND EXPLAIN THAT FOR THE FOLKS WHO MAY WATCH THIS MEETING LATER, UM, AND KIND OF THE SHADES OF BLUE, RED AND GREEN, JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          SO, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE EXHIBIT, WE INCLUDED SEVERAL, 
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UM, COMPONENTS TO THE EXHIBIT, BUT ONE OF THOSE BEING THE MAP THAT, THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING. 
          SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, UM, THE, THE TIF AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GENERALLY REPRESENTED BY THE BLUE COLOR OF THE MAP. 
          THAT IS THE AREA OF THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIF. 
          UM, THE GREEN PORTION ON THE NORTHERN END OF THIS MAP IS ACTUALLY, UH, THE COLLECTIVE MIAMI COUNTY TIF DISTRICTS, WHICH DON'T QUALIFY FOR EXTENSION, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ONLY THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIP. 
          AND THAT IS, AGAIN, THAT AREA IN BLUE, THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED ON THE MAP, UH, THAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE PACKET CORRESPONDING PARCELS TO THAT MAP ARE THAT ALSO, UM, ACCOMPANIED IN THE PACKET ARE LISTED AS AN ATTACHMENT AS WELL AS, AS PART OF THAT EXHIBIT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, BECAUSE I NOTICED A COUPLE OF AREAS, UH, KIND OF, UH, TO, TO MR. CAMPBELL'S POINT, UH, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, IS A, IS TWO OH ONE AND TWO OH TWO. 
          AND THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS, UM, IF THIS COUNCIL, IN MY OPINION, IS LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, A TIFF EXTENSION OF ROUGHLY $45 MILLION OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. 
          UM, I THINK THE, THE MAGICAL QUESTION IS WHY AND HOW IS OUR RESIDENTS GOING TO BENEFIT DIRECTLY? UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL AREAS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN THIS MAP, UM, IS INCLUDED THE, UM, THE, THE TIF AREA, UM, UH, DOWN, UM, UH, BEHIND THE NORTH PARK PLAZA, UM, AS WELL, UH, WHICH IS BEHIND, UM, UM, I'M GOING TO CALL IT A GANDER MOUNTAIN, UM, UM, A FORMER LOCATION THERE. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THERE WERE SOME PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ON SOME RECREATIONAL USE, UM, IN THAT AREA, HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE, UH, THE ENTIRE, UH, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS AREA ALONG EXECUTIVE. 
          SO I GUESS WITH THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, EXTENSION IS, IS WHY, AND WHAT IS THE TRUE BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF JUST CAPTURING THOSE DOLLARS THAT WOULD NORMALLY GO TO, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS, LIBRARIES, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS I, I CAN, I CAN JUMP IN REAL QUICK. 
          WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THAT, AND MR. CAMPBELL ACTUALLY JUST HIT ON IT A LITTLE BIT, UM, WITH OUR INTERIOR STREETS PROGRAM AND OTHER THINGS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, OUTPUT OF YEARS LOOKING AT ONCE BY ABOUT 2033 ISH OR SO, UH, YOU CAN IMAGINE, UM, CURRENTLY SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, AND THEN BY THAT TIME, SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, SO WHY WOULD THIS MONEY BE NEEDED? WELL, WHAT IT IS IS IT'S TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THE TAX PAYER TODAY. 
          SO AS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT MORE ROADS, UH, MORE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL, BY THAT TIME BE EVEN MORE NEED OF REPAIR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, TH LOOK, LOOK WITHIN THAT DISTRICT. 
          ONE OF THE MAIN PROJECTS ASSOCIATED IN THE COUNTY AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIFF RIGHT NOW IS THE TWO OH TWO AND TWO OH ONE INTERCHANGES, RIGHT? SO BY THAT TIME, MOVING FORWARD, YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE LARGE-SCALE PROJECTS NEEDED TO BE UNDERTAKEN REGARDING, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE INTERSECTIONS IN 11 THEMSELVES. 
          SO THE, THE ANSWER IS, IS, IS I'VE HEARD MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR, UM, NOT, NOT FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS, A SUCCESSION PLAN, BUT A, A, A STRUCTURED PLAN, A PHASED IN APPROACH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP UP WITH THE NEEDS OF MAINTAINING AND REPLACING AND IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, BRIDGES, WATER LINES, UH, STREETSCAPES, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT FALL IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE REALM OF THAT. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ESTABLISH OURSELVES IN THE FUTURE, AS SOME OF THE CURRENT PROJECT MONIES HAVE RUN OUT THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME THAT SOME OF THOSE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO NEED, YOU KNOW, REPAIRED OR REPLACED. 
          SO, UH, IT'S A GREAT FUNDING SOURCE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND I THINK WHAT THIS DOES, IS IT, UH, IT ENSURES A POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE FOR THOSE HIGH PRIORITY INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND TO, TO MR. SCHUMER'S COMMENTS, KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE. 
          UM, OH THREE, UM, I JUST PULLED IT UP HERE. 
          UM, AND SO THAT PARTICULAR, UH, YEAH, IT'S IT'S ORDINANCE, UH, 2003, UH, DASH DASH OH DASH 1409 FOR EVERYONE KEEPING SCORE AT HOME. 
          AND IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION. 
          AND SO THE MONEY THAT IS BEING COLLECTED IS BEING COLLECTED FOR THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS DEFINED IN THAT ORDINANCE. 
          SO TO MR. SCHUMER'S POINT, WHEN YOU READ THAT, UH, THAT LEGISLATION, THE MONEY 
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THAT WOULD BE EXTENDED THROUGH THIS PROJECT WOULD BE REDEDICATED TO THOSE PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, 72 OH TWO, TWO OH ONE AND THE RELATIVE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, THAT ARE DEFINED WITHIN, WITHIN THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION. 
          SO, UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT THAT TH THIS REVENUE THAT WILL BE CAPTURED IS MONEY THAT WE WILL HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND IS NOT IN ALLOWS US TO NOT HAVE TO SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO, TO, TO HANDLE THOSE, THOSE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE NEEDS. 
          SO THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT REVENUE SOURCE, SO THAT WE CAN DIVERT, UH, OR I SHOULD SAY WE COULD UTILIZE OUR OTHER MORE CONVENTIONAL REVENUE SOURCES ON PROJECTS THAT WE NEED IN A BROADER SENSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          AND TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UH, BRIAN, IF I MAY, AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT, THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE, THE MONIES ARE REDEDICATED TO THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE CAN'T CREATE NEW PROJECTS. 
          THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED FOR THOSE PROJECTS TO BE EXTENDED OR BUILT UPON IT. 
          AM I FAIR ENOUGH WITH THAT? THAT I CAN'T SAY, UH, YES. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT AS A GENERAL STATEMENT. 
          YES. 
          BUT THE MONEY THAT'S CURRENTLY COMING IN WOULD BE RELEVATED WOULD BE RELEGATED TO THOSE PROJECTS DEFINED IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE. 
          YES. 
          SO THE 1.5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE COMING IN IS THAT THE 1.5 MILLION, UM, THAT, UM, HAS GONE THROUGH AND BEEN CALCULATED, OR IS THAT STILL ATTACHED TO THE ORIGINAL DOLLARS FROM THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE? SO THAT 1.5 MILLION THAT CAME IN LAST YEAR IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, NOT ITS EXTENSION. 
          AND THAT 1.5 MILLION IS GOING TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE VARIOUS, UM, LOAN OBLIGATIONS WE HAVE FOR ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO THE SIBLINGS ARE IN THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, THE, TO THE INTERCHANGE AND THE, THE AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT THOSE INTERCHANGES, UM, IN, IN ALL OF THE SUBSEQUENT INFRASTRUCTURE IN, AND AROUND THAT AREA THAT, THAT WAS PAID FOR BY, UH, THE INITIAL ISSUANCE OF THOSE LOANS FROM EARLIER. 
          MY LAST STATEMENT, WHICH MAY, I BELIEVE I MAY HAVE CONFUSED MYSELF OR MAY BE INCORRECT. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FOR A PERSONAL CLARIFICATION ON THIS. 
          IF THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE COMPARED TO THE 2003 ORDINANCE, WOULD THIS EXTENSION NOT GARNER ADDITIONAL DOLLARS OUTSIDE OF THAT WITH THE CURRENT INVESTMENTS AND THE CURRENT ABILITY? SO WE COULD POSSIBLY BE LOOKING AT MORE THAN 45 MILLION A YEAR BECAUSE OF THE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE INVESTMENTS THAT'S BEEN MADE IN THAT AREA AND THE ONGOING INCREASE. 
          SURE. 
          I MEAN, IF THE MARKET, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE ACREAGE THAT WE OWN THAT AS FORMERLY THE LE OR FORMERLY THE LAYMAN PROPERTY, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THAT VACANT ACREAGE, THAT IS THE, THE NEW BAUER, UH, PROPERTY, RIGHT. 
          FOR INSTANCE. 
          SO IF WE SEE DEVELOPMENT ON THERE, THAT'S NEW INVESTMENT TO, TO, YOU KNOW, ON WHICH WE CAPTURE THE INCREMENT. 
          SO YES, WE WOULD BRING IN MORE THAN ONE AND A HALF MILLION WHERE WE WOULD BRING IN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE VALUE OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT AD IS. 
          SO IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO MAKE MORE THAN THE 1.5 MILLION. 
          UM, IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO MAKE LESS THAN THE 1.5 MILLION. 
          IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT REAL ASSETS EXIST WITHIN THE DISTRICT AT THE TIME, FOR WHICH WE'RE CAPTURING THE INCREMENT, BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW TODAY, IF WE EXTRAPOLATE GOING FORWARD, IT WOULD BE 1.5 MILLION EFFECTIVE, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY OVER A CONTINUOUS, ADDITIONAL 30 YEAR PERIOD, BUT THAT COULD GO UP. 
          IT COULD GO DOWN, RIGHT. 
          AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE THOSE AREAS IN BLUE HAVE SEEN ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND SINCE THE OH THREE CALCULATIONS WERE PUT INTO PLACE BY THAT ORDINANCE. 
          SO, THEORETICALLY SPEAKING, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PROPERTY VALUES AND, AND, AND TRUE INVESTMENT, I WOULD SAY THAT TO INCREASE, UH, A GOOD 20% HAVE NOT HIRED SINCE 2003. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND IF YOU WERE TO LOOK BACK AT REVENUES THAT WERE GARNERED THROUGH THAT TIF DISTRICT, YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN PREVIOUS YEARS WHEN THE DISTRICT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAD LESS DEVELOPMENT IN IT, WE WERE BRINGING INSIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER AMOUNTS OF REVENUE. 
          SO AGAIN, NOW THAT THERE'S BEEN MORE INVESTMENT OR CAPTURING MORE OF THE INCREMENT IF WE HAVE, SO YES. 
          AND, AND VICE PREMIER, MY, MY LAST QUESTION, UH, WHICH, UH, WOULD BE, UH, PROBABLY TO ROB, UM, OR TO BRIAN, UM, PLEASE EXPLAIN. 
          AND, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO MAY WATCH THIS VIDEO LATER, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME INTEREST IN US. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY BY THIS COUNCIL, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO TIPS REGARDING, UH, THEIR CAREER CENTER, UM, HUBER HEIGHTS, CITY, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND EVEN BETHEL SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          WHEN WE DISCUSS MIAMI COUNTY TESTS, PLEASE EXPLAIN THE IMPACT, UM, CURRENT AND FUTURE, IF THIS 
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PAST, UM, TO, TO THOSE ENTITIES AND INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, COUNTY ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO RECEIVE THIS MONEY WELL, AS FAR AS THE IMPACT TO THEM, UH, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY IMPACT? I GUESS THERE'S BEEN SOME PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, UH, YOU KNOW, ON, ARE THEY BEING MADE WHOLE, IS THIS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST RE CLARIFYING THAT TO, UH, TO, TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          I KNOW WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION MULTIPLE TIMES WHEN IT COMES TO TIFF, BUT WHERE ARE WE AT CURRENTLY WITH THAT, WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, AND THEN WOULD THAT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE WHERE THE, UH, THE CURRENT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIFF HAVE A PLANNED, UH, AGREEMENT WITHIN THE, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          UM, AND THERE IS, WE HAVE ACTUALLY RECENTLY COME UPON THE TIME WHERE THAT 25 75 STARTS TO FLIP AND SWITCH, UM, WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, THE TIFF WAS FRONT END LOADED FOR THE BENEFIT FOR US TAKING THE PROJECTS ON THE BACK END LOADED FOR THAT, THAT MAKEUP. 
          AND THAT STRUCTURE REMAINS, AS I SAID, UH, BRIAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE EXTENSION ALREADY HAS BUILT IN EXCLUSIONS AND PERCENTAGES REGARDING, UH, SCHOOLS, CORRECT? YES. 
          SO BECAUSE WE'RE EXTENDING, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE EXTENDING THE EXISTING LEGISLATION, WE WOULD SEE THE APPLICATION OF THAT. 
          UM, W WE WOULD SEE THAT APPLICATION, UM, DEPENDING UPON AGAIN, WHERE THEY ARE, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE 75, UM, THE 75% UPFRONT, AND THEN THE A HUNDRED PERCENT REIMBURSEMENT TO THE SCHOOL ON THE BACK END OF THAT. 
          AND ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN OF, OF SOME DISPUTE BASED ON CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN, UM, UH, SCHOOL FINANCE FOLKS AND, UM, MUNICIPAL FINANCE FOLKS, UH, IN ALL ACTUALITY IN A DISTRICT WHERE THOSE TAX DOLLARS ARE WITHIN THE TIF, IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDING, MAYBE NOT THE PAYMENT OF THE SCHEDULE IS THE SAME, BUT IT ACTUALLY CREATES MORE MONEY TO PROVIDE BACK TO THE SCHOOLS IN THAT SCENARIO. 
          SO, UH, HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THE SCHOOLS. 
          I THINK THAT, UH, ANYONE WOULD SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SHARE OF THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WAS CREATED BASED ON THE INCENTIVE OF THAT TIF DISTRICT, THAT THE SCHOOL LIKELY WOULD NOT HAVE REALIZED, UM, THAT THE DEVELOPER MAY NOT HAVE CREATED, UH, THE IMPACT IS THAT, UM, THEY'LL SEE MORE MONEY. 
          AND ROB, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IF MEMORY SERVES CORRECT, UM, THERE W THERE WAS A JOINT SCHOOL BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THAT CONVERSATION HAD COME UP, AND I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PROVIDE CLARIFICATION AND ADDITIONAL INSIGHT TO THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION TO THAT. 
          AND, AND HOPEFULLY, UM, I KNOW THE REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MEET TOGETHER AGAIN SOON. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY IRON OUT SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ALONG THAT SAME WAY TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          AND, AND MR. SHAW, TO THAT, TO THAT POINT, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, DO YOU WANT TO CORRECT MY COMMENT EARLIER REGARDING, UH, THE SCHOOL'S REIMBURSEMENT? THE EXTENSION DOES GUARANTEE THAT THE CITY PROVIDES 100% REIMBURSEMENT. 
          SO, UM, SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT INITIAL 10 YEAR PERIOD, UM, UNDER THE, UNDER, UNDER THE LEGISLATION, UM, FOR THAT 25 75, THE SCHOOL IS REIMBURSED FOR A 100% OF WHAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAVE COMING TO THEM IF NO ABATEMENT, OR IF, IF NO TAX CAPTURE OCCURRED. 
          AND THAT'S BOTH ENTITIES, I WOULD ASSUME THE CAREER CENTER IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WHAT THE LEGISLATION SAYS, WHICH IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS 100% OF WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE HAD RECEIVED WITHOUT THE DISTRICT BEING IN PLACE. 
          SO I DID WANT TO CORRECT MY EARLIER COMMENT BECAUSE I INCORRECTLY, UH, APPLIED THE 25 75 PROVISION, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE UNDER THE EXTENSION. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          UH, I, I NEED A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON A COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, AND I'M GOING TO KEEP THESE SHORT AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS, THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT TIF IS SET TO EXPIRE 2033, IT'S A 30 YEAR TIF ESTABLISHED IN 2003, CORRECT? SO THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TIF DISTRICT IS SET TO EXPIRE AT THAT TIME. 
          THIS IS WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS A ROLLING TIF. 
          SO THE DISTRICT ITSELF EXISTS INDEFINITELY. 
          IT HAS A NEW DEVELOPMENT OCCURS WITHIN THE DISTRICT, THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          THEN WE, WE THEN CAPTURE THE INCREMENT FOR A 30 YEAR PERIOD ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT ON THAT PARTICULAR INVESTMENT. 
          IN THIS INSTANCE, THE LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW US 
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TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THE INCREMENT FOR A PERIOD LONGER THAN THE 30 YEARS, SO THAT WHAT WOULD THAT YEAR WOULD THAT TAKE THEN TAKE IT OUT 30 YEARS FROM LET'S SAY TODAY OR 30 YEARS FROM THAT ORIGINAL END DATE. 
          SO WHERE ARE WE LOOKING AT? UH, YOU KNOW, UH, 2050, ARE WE LOOKING AT 2063? IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHATEVER THE PROPERTY IS. 
          SO LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, PROPERTY ONE IS ALREADY 13 YEARS INTO THE ABATEMENT, RIGHT? WE'VE EXTENDED THAT NOW 30 MORE. 
          SO ANY NEW PROPERTY WOULD FALL INTO THAT 30 YEAR ABATEMENT PERIOD. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ANY NEW PROPERTY I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO, TO BOND COUNSEL ON EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD APPLY TO A PROPERTY THAT COMES INTO THE CYCLE BEYOND THIS EXTENSION? THE WAY THAT THE LEGISLATION READS IS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING AN EXTENSION TO THOSE ALREADY RECEIVING THE BENEFIT. 
          SO IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY RECEIVING THE BENEFIT, WE CAN'T DEDUCTIVELY, WE CAN'T EXTEND WHAT THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING. 
          RIGHT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, WITH THIS BEING A ROLLING TIF, IF A NEW DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, UM, YOU KNOW, ON EXECUTIVE, IT'S NOT A 60 YEAR TIF, IT'S STILL A 30 YEAR TIF, CORRECT? RIGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THEN A SECOND WOULD BE TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE WHAT MR. SHAW I THINK WAS GETTING TO, OR MAYBE NOT, UM, WE'RE TALKING A MILLION AND A HALF A YEAR COMING OUR WAY, WHO IS NOT GETTING THAT ONE AND A HALF MILLION, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT MAGIC. 
          IT DOESN'T GROW ON TREES. 
          SO SOMEBODY IS LOSING FOR US TO WIN, WHO TAKES THE LOSS. 
          SO AFTER THE FIRST, SO IN THE FIRST 10 YEARS, IT IS A COMBINATION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY HAVING THEIR RESOURCES DIRECTED TO THE CITY AFTER THE FIRST 10 YEARS, IT IS ONLY THE COUNTY WHO HAS RESOURCES CONTINUALLY DIRECTED TO THE CITY RELATIVE TO THE INCREMENT FUNDING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, THE COUNTY PROGRAMS AND, AND MIAMI VALLEY, UH, THE, UH, CTC THAT'S. 
          YES, NO, WE DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, SO IT DEPENDS, IT DEPENDS ON EACH PARTICULAR DISTRICT AND THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CTC IS EXEMPTED BECAUSE AT THE TIME THAT THE DISTRICT WAS FORMED, THE CTC WAS NOT CONSIDERED, BUT FOR OTHER DISTRICTS, LIKE, UH, FOR THE NEWER ONES, THE CTC IS CONSIDERED AND THEIR FUNDS ARE NOT WITHHELD. 
          THEIR FUNDS ARE REIMBURSED. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW THIS ONE IS STRUCTURED, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, UH, BUT TO BE DEFINITIVE, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH, WITH, UM, WITH EITHER, UM, MR. . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I COULD JUST COMMENT ON THAT, THAT WE ARE MAKING PAYMENTS TO THE, UM, UH, LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CTC NEXT YEAR IN THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY. 
          YEAH. 
          IN FACT, IF YOU SEE IN THE NOTICE LETTERS, UH, THERE ACTUALLY IS ONE, UH, ALSO TO THE CTC. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, AND THE REASON I ASKED IS JUST, I KNOW THAT IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE FOR EVERYBODY TO GET THAT MONEY. 
          SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LOSING FOR OTHERS TO GAIN. 
          AND IN THIS INSTANCE, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, COUNTY SERVICES, CERTAIN COUNTY SERVICES, MAYBE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, SCHOOL FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS AND CTC, NOT REALLY SURE, BUT, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND. 
          WHO'S NOT GETTING FOR US TO DO, IT'S A VERY DEBATABLE TOPIC, UM, IN TERMS OF THAT, BECAUSE WHERE THERE MIGHT BE ONE, THERE'S ANOTHER, FOR INSTANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE COUNTY'S REVENUE STREAM TAKES CARE OF COUNTY ENGINEERING AND STREET MAINTENANCE SYSTEMS. SO FOR AN AREA LIKE AN URBANIZED TOWNSHIP, LIKE, UH, BUTLER TOWNSHIP, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, HARRISON TOWNSHIP, ET CETERA, WHO HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING, UH, THE COUNTY PERFORM A LOT OF THOSE FUNCTIONS FOR THEM. 
          UH, OUR TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THAT AS WELL. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IN, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO, EVEN THOUGH OUR TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING THAT SAME AMOUNT, WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT SERVICE, WE'RE PROVIDING THAT SERVICE ON TOP OF IT. 
          SO IT, IT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD LITERALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE AND THE BALANCES TO ANSWER WELL, WHO'S MISSING WHAT FUNDAMENTALLY REALLY NOBODY IS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY LEGISLATIVELY IT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL AND ACCEPTABLE TO INSTILL A TIF. 
          IF IT WAS A GREAT DISADVANTAGE AND DID CREATE A BURDEN ON ANOTHER, UH, POLITICAL SUBDIVISION, THEN I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY FOR ALL THESE YEARS WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED TIFFS TO CONTINUE TO EXIST. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN RULES THAT EXEMPT 
          [01:55:01]
CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFIED WITHIN THE LAWS AND ORDINANCES. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE PREMISE IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITHIN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL SAYING THAT WE ARE ROBBING MONEY FROM ANOTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION, OR A SCHOOL IS A HUNDRED PERCENT INCORRECT. 
          WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE MAXIMIZING THE ABILITY OF THOSE TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE PAID BY OUR RESIDENTS AND APPLYING THOSE TAX DOLLARS DIRECTLY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ARE PROVIDING SERVICES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE PROVIDED, UH, BY AND THROUGH THOSE OTHER ENTITIES WHEN THERE'S ADVANTAGES AND OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT AREN'T CONTRIBUTING ANYMORE, BUT ALSO DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THEM SERVE THOSE SERVICES THEMSELVES. 
          SO THAT IN ESSENCE IS ONE OF THE, UM, ADVANTAGES OF BEING A CITY IS THAT YOU GET TO TAKE ON AND PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES DIRECTLY. 
          BUT ONE OF THE DISADVANTAGES IS THAT THIS, WELL, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE THAT'S GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK BACK AT WHEN WE BECAME A CITY THAT I'M SURE WE DON'T NEED TO, YOU KNOW, DRAG THIS MEETING ON ANY LONGER, UH, THAT I'M SURE MR. CAMPBELL AND OTHERS COULD SPEAK ABOUT THAT. 
          ALL OF A SUDDEN, OVERNIGHT, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE ROADS AND THAT'S QUITE AN UNDERTAKING. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST KIND OF JUST KIND OF AN EXPLANATION AND JUSTIFICATION OF, OF HOW AND WHY THAT LAW EXISTS AND WHY CONTINUES TO EXIST. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY ROBBING ANYBODY OF ANYTHING. 
          UH, IT'S A REDISTRIBUTION AND A BALANCE OF KEEPING THE INVESTMENT FROM THE LOCALIZED TAXPAYERS BACK INTO LOCALIZED PROJECTS, MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          MR. . 
          YEAH. 
          ROB, UH, REGARDING THE COUNTY, DO THEY HAVE A FUND THAT THEY LIVE OFF OF MORE THAN ANOTHER? LIKE, DO THEY MAKE MONEY OFF SALES TAX SALES TAX WITHOUT A DOUBT? YES. 
          AND AS OUR ROSE MUSIC CENTER GENERATES SALES TAX, IF THE DESERT EVERY BIT HELPS EVERY BUSINESS IN THE CITY, CAMPING WORLD GENERATES SALES TAX, UH, HUGELY, UM, YOU KNOW, YES. 
          SO, SO THE MORE BUSINESS WE CREATE, THE MORE SALES TAX DOLLARS, WE GENERATE A HUNDRED PERCENT, WHICH IS HELPING THE COUNTY OUT OF WHO WE'RE GETTING THE MONEY BACK FROM KEEPING AT HOME JIM BELL. 
          UH, IF YOU WOULD UNMUTE, UH, COULD YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH WE PAID THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM TIF PER YEAR? CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME IDEA? OH, UM, I COULD, UH, LOOK THAT NUMBER UP AND GIVE IT TO YOU A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I COULD DO THAT. 
          AND BEFORE YOU DO THAT, IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER, RIGHT? YES. 
          AND IT GROWS EVERY YEAR BECAUSE EVERY TIME THE SCHOOL REACHES THAT YEAR 11. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE GETTING, UM, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS EACH YEAR. 
          YES. 
          UH, BRIAN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          JUST SO I KNOW WHAT THE HEADLINE IS IN THE MORNING THAT WE ALL READ THE NEWSPAPER, THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS HAS JUST DISCOVERED AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCE TO PAY FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COULD BE $45 MILLION OR GREATER OVER THE NEXT 10 YEAR PERIOD. 
          WOULD THAT BE A PROPER HEADLINE? YEAH, I WOULD SAY SIR, THAT YES, THE, THE, THE, THE CORRECT HEADLINE WOULD BE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TIFF EXTENSION PROVIDES UP TO ANOTHER $45 MILLION FOR, FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS. 
          THAT THAT IS A CORRECT HEADLINE. 
          AND RICHARD, IF, IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND, COULD I, UH, CONTINUE? I THINK WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION TO BE PLEASED, PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IN 2003, WHEN WE ESTABLISH, UH, THE TIF, WE CAPTURED THE INCREMENT BETWEEN WHAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WAS IN THE IMPROVEMENT CURVE OVER TIME, THE COUNTY THAT, AND MIGHT OVER TIME INCREASE THE VALUE OF THAT. 
          CORRECT? DOES OUR INCREMENT GROWTH? YES. 
          YES. 
          YEP. 
          SO TO, SO TO RICHARD'S POINT, JUST RECENTLY, THE COUNTY EVALUATED IN SOME CASES, PRETTY MUCH WHAT PROPERTY VALUES WERE. 
          SO WHEN THEY DID THAT, WE'RE CAPTURING A BIGGER DOLLAR AMOUNT THAN WE DID THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE CALCULATED, WE'RE APPRECIATING BASED ON SOME SCALE OR MODEL ABOUT 1,000,005 OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD FOR A TOTAL OF WHAT ROB SAID WAS 45 MILLION. 
          I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE THE FLOOR. 
          AND IT WOULD ONLY GO UP AND IN A ROLLING TIFF, WE'VE TIFF, THESE DISTRICTS. 
          AND IF 10 YEARS INTO THAT 30 YEAR TIF BUILDING COMES OUT OF THE GROUND, IT'S GOING TO BE TIFF FOR HOW MANY YEARS. 
          SO IT'D BE 30 IN OUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT. 
          AND IT MIGHT BE A TEN-YEAR-OLD TIF DISTRICT. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO YOU GUYS HAVE PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THIS WHEN, WHEN YOU CALCULATED A MILLION AND A HALF TIMES 30 BEING 45 MILLION, YOU DIDN'T PULL THAT NUMBER OUT OF THE AIR, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IN 
          [02:00:01]
JIM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT ANSWER TO PIGGYBACK RICHARD'S POINT ON WHAT WE HAVE REINVESTED BACK TO THE SCHOOLS IN DOING ALL THIS. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS FOR ALL OF YOU FOR HEIGHTS. 
          I THINK THIS IS A BIG FINE JIM, UH, AS THE MEETING'S GOING ON, I'M TRYING TO LOOK UP, UH, THE FIRST YEAR WE STARTED RECEIVING REVENUES AND HOW FAR THEY HAVE COME. 
          UM, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT 2003, FOUR AND FIVE HADN'T FOUND ANY. 
          YES. 
          SO I'M ASSUMING AROUND 2006 OR SEVEN IS WHEN WE STARTED RECEIVING THEM. 
          SO, UM, I WILL LET YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS I HAVE THOSE FIGURES WELL, AND WE DEFINITELY, WE DEFINITELY WON'T RUN OUT OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WITHIN THE DISTRICTS. 
          I DON'T THINK THIS IS A BIG VICTORY AND SOMETHING TO REALLY CELEBRATE FOR YOU FOR HEIGHTS. 
          GOOD JOB. 
          WELL, IF I MAY CONTINUE ON THOSE COMMENTS, UM, IF THE VICE MAYOR, UH, W WOULD ALLOW SURE, UM, I BELIEVE WHERE THE BIG BONUS COMES INTO PLAY HERE. 
          AND I, AND I REALLY, YOU KNOW, KEEPING ME EYE ON THE BALL, THE LONG VISION IS THIS IS NOT INCLUDED OF ANY TYPE OF POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN THAT COULD BE PASSED BY A FEDERAL STATE ENTITY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE LOOKING AT HOPEFULLY A QUICK REBOUND ECONOMICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR GASOLINE TAX FUND, OUR HOTEL TAX FUND, UM, AND THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE KNOW, I'M HOPING POPPING OUT OF THE GROUND VERY SOON ON EXECUTIVE. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A COMPLETE WIN. 
          UM, AGAIN, NOBODY'S LOSING HERE FROM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTANDING. 
          UM, BUT THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS OF HUBER HEIGHTS IS DEFINITELY WINNING. 
          AND, UM, I MEAN, I COULD SEE A, A SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION, IF NOT A HALF, A MILLION DOLLARS, UM, AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, COMING OUT OF THE GROUND VERY SOON, UM, UH, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND, UM, THAT WOULD BE AN M WITH A MILLION, UM, BECAUSE, UH, I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW OUR TAXPAYERS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THOSE ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES TO YOUR POINT. 
          MR. CAMPBELL. 
          THANK YOU, MR. BELL. 
          UH, YES, I DID LOCATE, UM, THE, UM, REVENUES STARTED COMING UP IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY EXCEPT IN 2007, UH, $775,000. 
          AND, UH, JUST THIS LAST YEAR, UM, UH, 1,991,000. 
          WELL, THAT'S A, WOW. 
          SO OVER 13 YEARS, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JIM. 
          I'LL KEEP LOOKING FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WE PAID THE SCHOOLS, BUT, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A SPREADSHEET ON THAT. 
          SO, UH, PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET THAT TO YOU TONIGHT NEAR FUTURE ANYTIME. 
          THANKS, JIM. 
          GREAT. 
          ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS SUBJECT? OKAY. 
          ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS TO MONDAY'S AGENDA FOR THE FIRST READING? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL PLAN ON DISCUSSING IT THEN. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR MAYOR IS. 
          THERE HE IS. 
          [  BusinessFirst! Program Renewal]
OKAY. 
          SO NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE BUSINESS FIRST PROGRAM RENEWAL, UH, THAT'S ME AS WELL, SIR. 
          AND, UM, I'M, I THINK MOST MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROGRAM. 
          UH, THIS IS A FOUR COUNTY REGION, UH, 30 PLUS JURISDICTIONS PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM. 
          UH, IT'S ADMINISTERED BY MONTGOMERY COUNTY. 
          AND, UH, THE, THE PREMISE HERE IS REALLY ONE STOP SHOPPING FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES, WITH EVERYTHING FROM, UM, EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, FINANCING ASSISTANCE REGARDING EXPANSION AND GROWTH, UH, TO A RELOCATION, UH, ASSISTANCE, UH, AND, AND SEVERAL OTHER, UH, UM, SEVERAL OTHER BENEFITS REGARDING OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN A PARTICIPANT, UH, FOR A VERY LONG TIME IN THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL TO US IN SEVERAL WAYS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT THE PROGRAM, UM, UM, PROMOTES IS A, IS, IS KIND OF A WALK-AROUND. 
          SO ABOUT TWICE A YEAR, WE GET TOGETHER WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM, UH, AND THE COUNTY, AND WE WALK, UH, GO DOOR TO DOOR, UH, TO, UH, TO OUR LARGER BUSINESSES, JUST TO CHECK IN AND LET THEM KNOW, HEY, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT YOU, YOU'RE ON OUR MIND. 
          UH, HOW ARE THINGS GOING? WHAT CAN WE DO? UM, AND THIS ALMOST WITHOUT FAIL LEADS TO SOME KIND OF LEAD FOR FUTURE EXPANSION, UM, OR, UH, OR BUSINESS RETENTION. 
          SO, UH, AND THEN WE, WE PARTICIPATE IN OTHER WALKABOUTS FOR, UH, FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO ARE PARTICIPANTS. 
          SO 
          [02:05:01]
A VERY VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT PROGRAM TO, TO US AS A COMMUNITY, VERY VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT PROGRAM, UH, TO, UH, TO MY DIVISION, WITH RESPECT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL ENTERTAINED LEGISLATION, UH, AS YOU WERE IN THE NEXT MEETING TO, UH, APPROVE A, ANOTHER CONTRACT TO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM FRONT OF THE FIVE YEARS. 
          THANK YOU, BRIAN. 
          UH, IS THERE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION I SEE MR. BELL, HAS YOUR HAND RAISED ON THE MONITOR? I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A CONTINUATION FROM THE LAST OKAY. 
          THERE, IT WENT DOWN. 
          SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR BRIAN REGARDING, UH, THE BUSINESS FIRST PROGRAM AND THAT RENEWAL NOW? YES. 
          MR. WEBB. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          WELL, BRIAN, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, I DO SUPPORT THIS. 
          UM, IT'S AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING REMOTELY. 
          I THINK THE WEBSITE IS BUSINESS FIRST DATE AND REGION ALL ONE WORLD BUSINESS, FIRST DATE AND REGION.ORG. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. WEBB, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR BRIAN OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO MONDAY? HEY, SEE, NONE HEARING NONE. 
          WE'LL MOVE THAT ON. 
          [  License Agreement - Old Taylorsville Inn Property]
NEXT UP. 
          IS ITEM THREE J THE LICENSE AGREEMENT AT THE OLD TAYLORSVILLE IN PROPERTY, MR. SCHUMER? YES. 
          UM, IF YOU RECALL A WAYS, A WAYS BACK THE NEIGHBOR HEMEL GARN, UH, HAD VOLUNTEERED TO INSTALL FENCING IN AND AROUND THAT AREA. 
          UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN MAINTAINING THAT THERE. 
          WE HAVE ALSO RECENTLY USED THAT LOT FOR STORAGE OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS WHEN WE ADDED THE WATER SOFTENING, UH, AND THEY HAVE NOW ASKED IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT AREA FOR STORAGE OF CONTAINERS, UH, IN EXCHANGE, UH, FOR USE OF LAND. 
          UH, THEY HAVE AGREED TO MAINTAIN IT, UH, AND KEEP IT IN A, UM, IN A MAINTAINED FASHION. 
          UH, THE LICENSE AGREEMENT WOULD, IS CURRENTLY LISTED FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD, UH, AT SUCH TIME, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DECIDE TO MAINTAIN IT, UH, OR RETRACT IT. 
          UH, WE HAVE NO CURRENT USE, UM, OR PLANNED USE FOR THAT AREA. 
          UH, AND IT, UH, WOULD OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS NECESSARY FOR US TO MAINTAIN, UH, HAUL MOWERS DOWN AND, AND KEEP TRACK OF THAT. 
          SO, UM, WE BRING IT TO YOU FOR A CONSIDERATION. 
          IF SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TO ALLOW, THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. 
          MR. SHAW, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UH, ROB, I UNDERSTANDING YOUR, YOUR COMMENT JUST MOMENTS AGO THAT, UH, WE REALLY HAVE NO USE FOR THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THEN IT DOES, I'M GOING TO JUMP ON A LIMB HERE AND SAY, IF YOU WERE, IT MAKES COMMON SENSE TO ALLOW THEM KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SOME CONTINUED USE, UM, TO DO THAT, OR SOME USE FOR THAT. 
          MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS AFTER THIS LEASE IS OVER WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE, UM, WE AS A CITY SHOULD LOOK AT A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THAT, THAT, THAT PROPERTY, UM, WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE? UM, SO MAYBE ONCE THIS CONVERSATION COMES UP, LET'S SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER OF NEXT YEAR, UM, WE CAN KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT. 
          OR MAYBE THEY NEED ANOTHER LEASE EXTENSION. 
          MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. 
          YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF BY DESIGN, WHY WE WANTED TO LOOK AT EVALUATING IT FOR A YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOMETHING MAYBE THEY WANT TO PURCHASE IT IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO YEAH, THAT THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION. 
          SO YEAH, WE WOULD CERTAINLY KEEP THAT IN MIND AND WORK TOWARDS THAT, UM, GOING INTO, UM, UM, TO WHAT WE WOULD DO FOR THE SECOND YEAR. 
          PERFECT. 
          YEAH. 
          CAUSE I KNOW I WOULD, I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          THERE MAY BE SOME EXCLUSIONS OF WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THAT PROPERTY. 
          AND, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION. 
          YEAH, WE'LL INCLUDE THAT IF WE'RE, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NEXT YEAR, UM, MR.  HAS JUST REMINDED ME THAT, UH, UH, ANY AREA THAT'S VACANT AND CERTAINLY OWNED BY THE CITY WILL BE INCLUDED IN REVIEW OF THAT. 
          SO ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY AND PLAN A WILL COME OUT AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TELL SCOTT, UH, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE HIS FEEDBACK DURING OUR MEETING. 
          I'M SURE HE JUST HEARD YOU SAY THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM ANYONE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT ONTO, ONTO MONDAY'S MEETING? OKAY. 
          [  2021 City Budget]
AND NEXT UP WE HAVE REACHED ITEM THREE K, WHICH IS OUR 2021 CITY BUDGET. 
          MR. SHERMAN. 
          YES. 
          [02:10:01]
THANK YOU. 
          UM, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL START OFF REAL QUICK. 
          UM, THERE'S, THERE'S KIND OF THREE COMPONENTS OF, UH, OF THE, UH, OF THE BUDGET WITHIN, UH, THE, THE PRESENTATION HERE. 
          I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH, UM, WITH PROVIDING SOME ANSWERS TO SOME QUESTIONS AND A FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF, UM, UM, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. 
          LET ME GET THAT PULLED UP. 
          UM, AND WHOOPS, I SHARED THE WRONG SCREEN. 
          HANG ON JUST A SECOND. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AS A, AS YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE, WE HAVE THE, UM, A COPY OF THE KAPHA REPORT, THE PAGE THAT, UH, TALKS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL, UH, THE KAPHA REPORT, I HAD INDICATED IN A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, UM, JUST BECAUSE I WASN'T LOOKING AT IT AND THERE WAS A MULTITUDE OF NUMBERS BEING THROWN OUT. 
          UM, I SAID, WELL, PERHAPS IT, IT WASN'T CORRECT. 
          AND ACTUALLY GOING BACK AND CHECKING AND AUDITING IT. 
          UM, IT, UH, IT, IT IS IN FACT, CORRECT. 
          SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO START OFF WITH THAT THE NEXT, UH, COMPONENT WOULD BE, UH, IF DID, DID THE DOCUMENTS CHANGE? YES. 
          OKAY, GOOD, GOOD. 
          NEXT COMPONENT IS TAKING OUR, UH, BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS, UH, TAKING OUR STAFFING LEVELS, UH, AND TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT POSITIONS MAY BE ON THE STAFFING CHART, BUT NOT FUNDED. 
          I KNOW IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, UH, BACK IN, UH, GOING A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, WE HAD PLACED POSITIONS ON THE CHART SHOWING THAT WHAT THE GOALS WERE, UH, BUT IF THE DISCUSSION HAS NOW LED TO THAT, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          UH, NO PROBLEM. 
          UM, I CERTAINLY WOULD ADMIT THAT THERE WAS KIND OF A COMBINATION OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SOURCE DOCUMENTS TO LOOK AT, TO GET AN ACCURATE READING AS TO WHAT OUR AUTHORIZED STAFFING WAS VERSUS WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, PLACEMENT OF PEOPLE WERE VERSUS WHAT THE FUNDING LEVELS WERE. 
          AND, UM, IN AN ATTEMPT TO TAKE AND STREAMLINE THAT DOWN, ONE OF OUR OPTIONS IS THIS DOCUMENT, UH, WHICH WOULD, UH, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE PASSING THAT ON TO THE, UH, TO THE MEETING ON MONDAY TO MAKE ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS. 
          THE ADJUSTMENTS ARE, UH, ARE INCLUDED TO REMOVE ANY POSITIONS THAT AREN'T FUNDED. 
          FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD A CITY PLANNER POSITION ON THERE. 
          WELL, IT'S NOT FUNDED, UH, SCOTT'S PERFORMING THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL, UH, SECRETARY POSITION, UH, IN THE FIRE DIVISION. 
          UH, WE ALSO BASED ON DISCUSSIONS, UH, HAVE CHANGED FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS FROM 39 TO 41. 
          UM, AND TO MEET THAT TOTAL OF 63, UH, WE HAVE NO CHANGES IN ANY OF THE OTHER AREAS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF YOU'LL SEE, UM, LET ME FIND IT HERE, HERE IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          YOU SEE, WE HAVE LEFT THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT A FIELD OR FUNDED POSITION AND THAT'S REQUIRED, IT'S A REQUIRED POSITION BY OUR CHARTER. 
          SO, UH, THAT AS WELL AS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICES, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT IS STILL LISTED ON HERE AS WELL. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S A REQUIRED POSITION THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT'S LISTED IN THE CHARTER. 
          SO THIS DOCUMENT, UH, WOULD, I GUESS, MATCH THE LEVEL OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS BEGUN. 
          AND, UH, WE WOULD THEN TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING AND ADOPTING THIS PARTICULAR PIECE, UH, SHOULD COUNCIL, UH, WISH TO, UH, WISH TO DO SO. 
          THE NEXT PIECE IS THE ACTUAL BUDGET ITSELF, UH, REGARDING SOME, UH, CHANGES, UM, AND, UH, AMENDMENTS BASED ON RECENT INFORMATION. 
          SO I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH SCROLLING DOWN TO THE RELEVANT SLIDES, UH, THE FIRST, AND LET ME BEGIN THE SHOW HERE. 
          UH, THE FIRST IS LET'S SEE, YOU'RE NOT SEEING WHAT I'M SEEING. 
          I BET WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PIE CHART NOW FOR THE, FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, I'M JUST GOING TO, IT'S GOOD. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER JUST TO SCROLL THROUGH AND DO IT THIS WAY WITHOUT DOING A FULL SCREEN SHOW, IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          UM, I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE. 
          SO WE UPDATED THIS TO REFLECT THE, UH, AUTHORIZED EMPLOYEE NUMBERS, AND WE BROKE IT DOWN AND ADDED. 
          WE PREVIOUSLY JUST HAD, UM, FIRE POLICE STREETS, BUT WE WENT THE, AND ADMIN, WE WENT AND ADDED THE ENTIRE COMPLIMENT OF THE, UH, OF THE, OF THE CITY. 
          AND THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON WHAT WAS REFLECTED IN THAT LAST CHART, UH, OR THAT LAST ORDINANCE THAT I SHOWED YOU, UH, IF 
          [02:15:01]
THOSE, UM, UH, IF THOSE CHANGES WOULD BE, UH, WOULD BE ADOPTED. 
          SO WE'VE REMOVED POSITIONS THAT ARE AUTHORIZED, BUT UNFUNDED, UH, THE ONLY, AGAIN, EXCEPTION TO THAT, JUST TO MAKE SURE TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE AND CLEAR, OBVIOUSLY THE PART-TIME POSITIONS THAT ARE LISTED. 
          THOSE OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T FILLED BECAUSE WE DID NOT HIRE CONCESSION AND EVENT STAFF WORKERS AT THE MUSIC CENTER. 
          SO I DIDN'T TAKE THOSE OFF BECAUSE WE'RE HOPEFULLY PLANNING ON UTILIZING NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT TO SH TO SAY THAT THOSE ARE CURRENT EMPLOYEES JUST UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE SEASONAL EMPLOYEES IN THAT LARGE NUMBER THERE. 
          SO IF YOU TAKE ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER, UM, AND IF YOU WANT IT TO REMOVE THE 130 SEASONAL, THAT'S FINE. 
          UH, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL NUMBER 352 EMPLOYEES INCLUDING PARK. 
          AND FULL-TIME THE NEXT, UM, SLIDE THAT WE MADE SOME CHANGES ON IS THE KEY BUDGET SUMMARIES. 
          WE WENT BACK AND WE, UH, WE TOOK A LOOK AT ADJUSTED, UH, REVENUES. 
          A COUPLE OF EVENTS HAVE OCCURRED, UH, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CHANGE IN SENTIMENT AND OUR CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES OF WHAT THE REVENUE WOULD BE. 
          UH, WE, UH, WE MADE MODIFICATIONS TO THAT, INCLUDING WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PROJECT REVENUE AND TO THE MUSIC CENTER. 
          UH, AND WE ALSO PROJECT A REVENUE AND WE MADE SOME CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS, UM, IN, IN A MORE CLOSE REVIEW, UM, BASED ON WHAT OUR RECENT, UM, REPORTS OF COLLECTIONS ARE. 
          AND THAT HAS BASICALLY RAISED OUR ESTIMATES FROM OUR PREVIOUS ASSESSMENT IN THE, IN THE REVENUES. 
          OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT THEY EXACTLY ARE UNTIL THEY ARE ALL COLLECTED THROUGH, UH, UH, THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE IS A CHANGE IN THE IN-CONTEXT DISTRIBUTION. 
          UH, THERE'S SOME INCREASES IN THESE NUMBERS BASED ON THE NEW, UH, THE NEW ESTIMATES, UH, THE BUDGET SUMMARY AND THE LAST, UH, SLIDE IS ALSO CHANGED, UH, BASED ON THE CHANGES THAT WE HAD. 
          UH, THE BUDGET OVERALL IS, IS A STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGET. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEGALLY BALANCED AND STRUCTURALLY BALANCED. 
          AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT LEAVES IS LOOKING AT OUR, OUR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE REVENUES THAT WE EXPECT, UH, ADJUSTMENTS TO THE EXPENSES, UH, THAT WE EXPECT GOING IN. 
          UH, WE FEEL THAT THAT HAS, UM, THAT HAS REFLECTED ACCURACY IN OUR, IN OUR PROJECTIONS. 
          AND WHAT THAT HAS DONE IS THAT HAS NOW PLACED US, UM, IN A POSITION WHERE THERE IS A $333,000 POSITIVE, UH, NET ON THE, UH, ON THE ESTIMATE FOR THE 20, 21 BUDGET SUMMARY. 
          SO THAT IS, UH, IN SHORT, UH, THE UPDATE AND WILL BE THE, UM, MODIFICATION TO THE BUDGET ORDINANCE THAT YOU WILL SEE ON MONDAY. 
          UH, I KNOW THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKET, UH, THESE FIGURES AND INFORMATION IN DETAIL IN THAT ORDINANCE, UH, AND THAT WILL BE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE THAT WE WILL BE ASKING FOR, FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION IN THE 2021 BUDGET. 
          UH, THE OTHER ORDINANCE, AS I SAID BEFORE, UH, WOULD BE ANOTHER COMPANION PIECE SHOULD COUNSEL CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          AND I WILL NOW CLOSE MY SCREEN OUT AND TURN IT OVER TO MR. PROSSER FOR OUR PRESENTATION REGARDING, AS I TOLD YOU LAST WEEK, THE, UM, OVERALL DEBT, UH, OF THE CITY AND, UH, THE DEBT RATING. 
          UH, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANTED TO MAKE SPECIAL NOTICE AND RECOGNITION, UH, TO OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE A COMMON THEME TONIGHT FOR, UH, FOR MR. BELL. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE RECENTLY NOTIFIED OF IS A, IS AN AWARD THROUGH THREE PLUS ONE, UH, OUR CASH VEST SCORE. 
          AND I'LL LET JIM BRIEFLY TALK ON IT REAL QUICKLY, BUT, UH, AS COUNCIL KNOWS AND RECALLS OUR, OUR FINANCIAL POSITION, OUR TRANSPARENCY AND OUR HANDLING OF PUBLIC FUNDS, UH, IS UNDER SCRUTINY, NOT ONLY BY THE PUBLIC, NOT ONLY BY USE ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT ALSO BY THE STATE, OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITORS. 
          AND ON TOP OF THAT, UM, JIM AND OUR STAFF HAVE MADE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION TO HAVE YET ANOTHER INDEPENDENT, UH, ENTITY AND FROM REVIEW A SPECIFIC COMPONENT OF OUR, OF OUR FINANCES. 
          AND THAT IS BASICALLY THE LIQUIDITY AND THE HANDLING AND INVESTMENT OF THE CASH, UH, WITHIN THE CITY. 
          AND IT TAKES A, A LEVEL OF STANDARDS TO MEET CONSISTENT HIGH RATINGS OF 90 AND ABOVE. 
          AND, UH, WE WERE RECENTLY PROVIDED THE AWARD FOR MEETING THAT, UH, THAT MOTIVE EXCELLENCE BY THIS INDEPENDENT FIRM. 
          UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A VOLUNTARY THING MUCH, LIKE IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR, OUR, OUR POLICE ACCREDITATION, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, BUT WE CHOOSE TO, AND WE RECEIVE A HIGH RATINGS AND STANDARDS. 
          THE AUDIT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO BY LAW, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER LAYER THAT WE CONSCIOUSLY TAKE ON JIM. 
          YOU WANT A REAL QUICK REVIEW WHAT THAT AWARD IS, WHAT IT'S CALLED? WELL, UM, THE, UM, THE COMPANY THREE PLUS ONE, WHICH, 
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UM, IS A NATIONAL COMPANY THAT, UH, I MET, UH, BY ATTENDING THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. 
          AND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, PROMOTING THEIR SERVICES THERE AND, UH, TALKED TO A COUPLE OTHER, MY COLLEAGUES THERE, UM, UH, THE ONE LADY FROM DUBLIN, UH, SHE'S BEEN USING THEM FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND, UH, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THEM, SAID THAT IT HELPED HER TO, UH, EARN, UH, MORE THAN 20,000 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS PER YEAR. 
          AND, UH, JUST MORE CLOSELY MANAGING THE LIQUIDITY OF MONEY. 
          AND BY THAT, I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, UM, JUST THIS WEEK, SO WE RECEIVED, UH, ALMOST $8 MILLION OF NOTE PROCEEDS. 
          AND SO INSTEAD OF ME JUST PARKING IT IN OUR CHASE ACCOUNT, EARNING, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW DOLLARS OF INTEREST, UM, I IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE MONIES ARE FROM THE, UH, ADVANCED TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO, UH, THAT MONEY IS NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR ANY, UH, PURCHASE A PROPERTY COMING UP. 
          SO MIGHT AS WELL PUT THAT TO GOOD USE, PUT IT TO INVESTMENT. 
          AND SO I MOVED THAT OUT OF THE CHASE ACCOUNT IMMEDIATELY AND, UH, AND JUST DOING SMALL LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, UH, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY RATE THE, UM, THE ABILITY OF MYSELF AND STAFF HERE TO MOVE THOSE MONIES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO THE BEST POSSIBLE EARNINGS, UH, ACCOUNT AND, UM, AND MAKE THE BEST USE, UH, DON'T HAVE STALE CASH SITTING AROUND. 
          AND SO, UM, THE AWARD IS ONLY GIVEN IF YOU REACH THAT 90 OR ABOVE, UH, EFFICIENCY LEVEL FOR FOUR STRAIGHT QUARTERS. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE QUARTER, IT'S DOING IT OVER AN ENTIRE YEAR. 
          SO, UH, THIS, UH, RECENTLY THIS THIRD QUARTER OF 2020, UH, WAS THE FOURTH QUARTER IN A ROW THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE THAT EFFICIENT WITH, UH, MANAGING THE LIQUIDITY OF THE CITIES OF THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS. 
          AND SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT, UH, AWARD. 
          AND, UM, IT HAS, UM, UH, IT'S FUNNY WHEN YOU FIRST SIGN UP WITH THEM, UH, THEY GUARANTEE YOU THAT THEY'RE GOING TO EARN YOU $10,000 OR MORE IN, UH, MORE INTEREST EARNINGS. 
          AND IF THEY DON'T HIT THAT, THEN YOU DON'T PAY THEM A DIME. 
          AND, UH, THEY, THEY MORE THAN HAVE PROVED THAT, UH, SINCE THEN. 
          AND, UH, THEY'RE A VERY GOOD RESOURCE. 
          I TALKED TO THEM QUARTERLY. 
          UH, THEY GO OVER ALL OF THEIR, UM, METRICS AND, UH, AND THEY KEEP ME, UH, EXTREMELY CHALLENGED TO, UH, TO, UH, WATCH THE CITY'S FUNDS AND MANAGE THEM THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. 
          WELL, CAUSE I THINK ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, UH, OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE BENEFIT OF, UH, REPRESENTING ALL THE TAXPAYERS ON YOUR BEHALF, IN THE POLICIES THAT YOU SET, UH, AS COUNCIL. 
          UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT GREAT OPPORTUNITIES AND METHODS AND WAYS OF, OF CELEBRATING SUCCESSES THIS YEAR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK ON, ON THE BUDGET REAL QUICK AS WELL. 
          I THINK THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A YEAR WHERE WE PROJECT, UM, CERTAINLY SOME POTENTIAL LOSSES IN REVENUE GOING INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A DOUBT AS THE EFFECT OF COVID, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SEE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS PROFIT AND BUSINESS RETURNS A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE ALSO HAVE ALWAYS BET ON OURSELVES IN TERMS OF HOW WE MANAGED TO DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY LOCALLY. 
          UH, WE WERE VERY LUCKY AND NOT IMPACTED AS BAD AS SOME COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE AS DIVERSIFIED OF A LOCAL ECONOMY. 
          AND I THINK TAKING LOOK AT AND BEING VERY, UM, DILIGENT WITH HOW AND WHAT WE DO. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS MR. MAYOR, I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IN A, IN A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY IS ABOUT, UM, YOU ENDED UP TALKING ABOUT A DOCUMENT WHERE YOU RECOGNIZE HOW OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE, OUR LIQUIDITY, OUR CASH HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY AND SEQUENTIALLY YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          AND THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT BY ACCIDENT. 
          THAT IS A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY IS PUT IN A POSITION WHERE WHEN IT DOES, UH, GO OUT TO ISSUE DEBT, WE HAVE THE BEST RATING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN GET. 
          AND WE ALSO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT THE TAXPAYERS PIGGY BANK, UH, TO USE A, TO USE A PHRASE, UH, FROM, UH, FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, BUT IT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE, UH, GOOD RESERVES AND THAT WE DO HAVE LIQUIDITY AND RESPONSIBLE USE FOR THAT. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE AWARENESS AND KNOWLEDGE, UH, BY YOU, MR. MAYOR, UH, BY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OF RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF MANAGING OUR FUND BALANCES TO KEEP AND TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION, UH, AND, AND, UM, AND STABILITY. 
          AND, UH, AND I THINK IN COMBINATION OF ALL THESE THINGS, I THINK THAT WE REALLY GOING INTO 2021, UH, ARE, ARE IN, I THINK, A COMFORTABLE POSITION. 
          UH, COULD IT BE BETTER CERTAINLY, BUT THERE'S, THOSE ARE BASED ON THINGS THAT ARE OUT OF OUR CONTROL, BUT THE THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR CONTROL, UH, WE STAY AWARE OF. 
          AND, UM, UH, AND I THINK BASED ON ALL THIS INFORMATION, INCLUDING, UH, A BUDGET GOING INTO 2021 TO BASED ON REVENUES AND EXPENSES, UH, WE STILL SEE A POSITIVE NET AT THE END. 
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UH, I THINK THAT THAT'S HUGE. 
          UM, CERTAINLY WE HAVE, UH, RESERVES TO, UH, TO PROVIDE FOR, UH, EXTRA ORDINARY EXPENSES AND ONE-TIME COSTS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO AS COUNCIL MAKES SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS AND CHOOSES TO TAKE ON, UH, VARIOUS ADDITIONAL, UH, PROJECTS OR BUDGETS OR IMPROVEMENTS OR UNANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, REPAIRS AND EXPENSES THAT COME ON. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT STRUCTURED, UM, BUILDUP OF FUND BALANCE. 
          AND, UH, THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT REALLY IS, IS A DEMONSTRATION OF GOOD SOLID PRACTICES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          UH, AND WE CONTINUE TO, UH, TO BUILD ON THAT. 
          UM, AND I KNOW, UH, UH, ANDY IS READY TO GO WITH HIS PRESENTATION. 
          I KNOW WE'VE KEPT HIM WAITING. 
          I WOULD APPRECIATE ALLOWING HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THROUGH THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, UH, IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT, UM, SO THAT HE CAN, UM, GET ON WITH HIS PRESENTATION AND EVENING IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT BE FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING OUR MEETING AND CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PRESENTATION FOR WELCOME ROBERT, LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN ON THE PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          GO RIGHT HERE. 
          AND THEY LOAD THIS UP AND FOR ALL THE YOU, I DON'T KNOW, UM, UH, ANDY BRAS, HE IS OUR, UH, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE CITY. 
          AND, UH, HE IS THE ONE THAT WE CONSULT WITH TO IDENTIFY WHEN WE ARE LOOKING TO, UH, ISSUE DEBT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING TO MANAGE, UM, UH, THE, THE CITY'S COFFERS PER SE. 
          UH, JIM UTILIZES HIM AS A RESOURCE AND, UH, I'LL LET HIM TAKE IT FROM THERE. 
          WE JUST LOST YOU HANDY. 
          OKAY. 
          EVERYONE'S SEEN THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION THAT'S ON THE SCREEN WE DID. 
          AND NOW IT'S GONE. 
          NOW IT'S GONE. 
          LET ME TRY THAT ONE MORE TIME. 
          HOW'S THAT? THERE WE GO. 
          GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, GOOD EVENING. 
          WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH ABOUT 15 SLIDES HERE. 
          I PROMISE I WON'T KEEP YOU HERE ALL NIGHT ON TALKING ABOUT BOND INFORMATION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH FIRST, A BRIEF INTRODUCTION ON THE BOND MARKET, UH, WHERE THAT STANDS TODAY, GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE AT. 
          UH, THEN WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH THE OUTSTANDING DEBT, UM, AND WE'VE KIND OF CLASSIFIED IN DETAIL AND THEN BROKEN OUT BY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FOR YOU. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH SOME REFUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE US, UM, PRESENTING TO COUNCIL. 
          UM, ASSUMING INTEREST RATES STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT AND THE SAVINGS STAY, WHERE THEY ARE AT, UH, THAT, THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AS WE HEAD INTO 2021, UH, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FINALLY APPROACHING US. 
          SO, FIRST SLIDE HERE ARE TAX EXEMPT INTEREST RATES, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT AS TO WHERE THE MARKET CURRENTLY STANDS AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IN THE, IN THE GRAY BAR, AS YOU SEE THAT THE TOP LINE AND THE BOTTOM LINE, THAT IS YOUR AVERAGE OF WHERE INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN GOING BACK TO 1991. 
          AND WE PRESENT THIS SLIDE BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S A PRETTY POWERFUL PICTURE OF A WAR. 
          THE MARKET IS TODAY. 
          AND SO THE GRAY BAR IT'S BEEN AS HIGH AS OUR, TO BELIEVE 7% BACK, 1991. 
          UM, AND RECENTLY WE WE'VE MADE SOME ALL-TIME LOWS. 
          ACTUALLY THIS YEAR WE DID, UH, ON, ON THE YIELD CURVE. 
          THE AVERAGE IS ACTUALLY RIGHT WITH THE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. 
          AND SO IN THAT ORANGE LINE, THERE THAT'S THE AVERAGE INTEREST RATE ON THE YIELD CURVE. 
          AND SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT IS THE FIRST YEAR OF, OF A PARTICULAR BOND MATURITY GOING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE 30TH HERE. 
          IF YOU USED TO DO A 30 YEAR BOND, UH, WHAT THE INTEREST RATES WOULD BE ON THE AVERAGE. 
          AND THEN THE GREEN LINE IS THE NOVEMBER. 
          UH, WHAT WE CALL THE MMDS, THE AAA RATE, WHICH IS, UH, A YIELD CURVE, WHICH IS WHAT ALL THE BONDS IN THE MARKET ARE PRICED OFF OF. 
          AND SO YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT WE WERE JUST SLIGHTLY OFF OF THE ALL-TIME LOWS, BUT A VERY FLAT YIELD CURVE, UH, AND A YIELD CURVE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF US WERE VERY SURPRISED THAT THEY CAN ACCESS ON A AAA CURVE, UH, BELOW 2%, UH, TAX EXEMPT RATES FOR 30 YEARS. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE CURRENT MARKET AS TO WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE SAW A LOT OF VOLUME, UH, IN OCTOBER RUSHING TO, UM, BEAT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. 
          IF YOU RECALL, FOUR YEARS AGO, AN ACT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, THERE WAS A SPIKE IN INTEREST RATES OF ABOUT 50 BASIS POINTS, THE 75 BASIS POINTS. 
          UH, AND THAT WAS A CONCERN OF A LOT OF, UH, BOND ISSUERS. 
          AND SO, UH, OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR WAS THE SECOND LARGEST, UH, ISSUANCE MONTH EVER. 
          AND, UM, ANNOUNCED SETTLED DOWN AGAIN. 
          SO INTEREST RATES ARE VIEWED TO BE STEADY AND NOT EXPECTED TO GO ANYWHERE FOR A WHILE. 
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IN TERMS OF CREDIT RATINGS, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO GO OVER THE CREDIT RATINGS FOR THE CITY AND WHERE THAT STANDS TODAY. 
          UH, THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS FOUR OUTSTANDING CREDIT RATINGS. 
          THE TOP FOUR FIRMS, AS YOU SEE UP ON THE SCREEN ARE MOODY'S INTERIM PORES IN FITCH RATINGS. 
          UM, MOODY'S HAS BEEN THE PREDOMINANT ONE THAT, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS UTILIZED IN THE PAST. 
          AND AS, UH, SEE DOWN BELOW THERE, THE RATINGS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING FOR THE CITY IS THE AA FREE FOR A GENERAL OBLIGATION RATING FOR THE CITY, UH, AN A ONE FOR THE INCOME TAX REVENUE BONDS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING BY MOODY'S, UH, A ONE FOR THE WATER REVENUE BONDS OF THE CITY BY MOODY'S AND AA MINUS FOUR, THE WATER REVENUE RATING, UM, UH, FOR THE CITY. 
          AND SO THE, IF YOU GO TO THE FAR LEFT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE HIGHER, IF YOU WILL, THE CREDIT RATING, THE LOWER THE INTEREST RATES. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY AS YOU GO DOWN BELOW ON THE CREDIT RATING CURVE, UH, THE LOWER THE INTEREST RATES, AND THEN YOU FALL OFF OF THE INVESTMENT GRADE CATEGORY. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE THE, UH, THE RATINGS ARE FOR THE CITY, UH, VERY SOLID RATINGS, UH, AND VERY TYPICAL FOR, UM, A CITY OF YOUR SIZE AND WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO A CREDIT RATING FOR A MUNICIPALITY AND STAYED AWAY FROM THE WATER, UM, CREDIT RATING FOR NOW, DEMOGRAPHICS SIZE THING, THINGS THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T CONTROL IN A SHORT TERM PERIOD, UM, OR, OR IMPACT YOUR CREDIT RATING, UM, INCOMING WEALTH LEVELS. 
          UH, AND AS YOU SEE DOWN BELOW THERE, WE, WE HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF, OF WHAT KIND OF FACTORS COULD HELP THE CITY MOVE UP. 
          THAT CREDIT LADDER. 
          UH, ONE IS IMPROVED, UM, IMPROVEMENT IN ECONOMIC DEMOGRAPHIC INDICATORS, UH, THAT WOULD BE POPULATION AND INCOME AND WEALTH. 
          UH, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS MODERATION OF THE CITY'S DEBT BURDEN. 
          UM, ONE MORE FACTOR THAT'S NOT INCLUDED ON THERE THAT I DIDN'T PUT ON THERE IS, IS INCREASING YOUR GENERAL FUND BALANCES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES THAT GOES AGAINST, UM, REALLY, PROBABLY WHAT IS THAT FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD IN TERMS OF CONTINUING TO INCREASE YOUR, YOUR BALANCES, BUT THAT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON, ON YOUR CREDIT RATING AS WELL, FACTORS THAT COULD LEAD TO A, TO A DOWNGRADE, UM, DETERIORATION IN THE, IN THE, UH, ECONOMIC PROFILE POPULATION, INCOME QUALITIES, UH, THOSE ARE FACTORS THAT THEY'VE KEYED ON LATELY. 
          UM, WHEN THEY START TO SEE A STRUCTURAL AREA, INBOUND OPERATIONS, MEANING YOU'RE SPENDING MORE THAN, UH, THEN YOU'RE BRINGING IN AND DETERIORATION IN THE FUND BALANCE. 
          UH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO WATCH THAT AND SEE IF IT CONTINUES ON A TREND. 
          UH, AND THEN THEY'LL WANT TO CALL THE CITY AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH, WITH THOSE TRENDS AND THEN ANY NOTABLE INCREASES IN CITY, UH, DEBT AND PENSION, UH, BURDENS IT'S IN BURDENED PENSION BURDENS, OR A, UM, A FACTOR THAT'S COME IN THE LAST FIVE, FIVE TO 10 YEARS IN TERMS OF PREDATOR RATINGS. 
          UH, THEY, WE DIDN'T USE TO SEE THEM BACK, UM, AS PART OF THE CREDIT PROFILE WHEN, WHEN I FIRST GOT INTO BUSINESS 20 SOME YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S REALLY OBVIOUSLY THE HEADLINES, UH, OUT THERE WITH A LOT OF THE PENSION BURDENS ACROSS THE STATES. 
          UM, THEY ARE NOW MORE OF A IMPACT ON CREDIT RATINGS THAN THEY EVER HAVE BEEN BEFORE. 
          UM, JUST TO NOTE THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN ALLOCATION FROM THE STATE ON THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE ALLOCATED BACK TO THE CITY OF HEBREW HEIGHTS, IF THERE, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN AND WHAT MOODY'S IS MOODY'S AND S AND P TRIES TO DO WITH THAT PENSION BURDEN IS TO, UH, MAKE IT FAIR ACROSS ALL STATES. 
          AND SO, UH, WE CONTINUALLY TELL THEM IN OHIO, UH, THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT, WHETHER IT'S 50 BILLION, 50 MILLION HOURS FOR THE CITY HUBER HEIGHTS, ISN'T CURRENTLY DO, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY STILL USE THAT AS AN INDICATOR TO COMPARE APPLES, TO APPLES, TO OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, MOVING ON TO, UH, THE DEBT SUMMARY. 
          AND, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ALL CAN SEE THIS, UM, PRETTY CLEARLY THERE THERE'S WE TRIED TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION, BUT ALSO LIMIT THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WAS TOSSED UP HERE. 
          UM, AND I'D LIKE TO JUST GO THROUGH A COLUMN HERE, AND, AND MAYBE WE FOCUS ON THAT FIRST COLUMN FOR THE 2010, UH LTG AND BROWN UNDER EACH ONE OF THESE. 
          AND WE'VE GOT TWO PAGES HERE FOR YOU TO SEE, WE INDICATE WHAT THE SECURITY IS UP TOP. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S A LIMITED TAX GENERAL OBLIGATION PLEDGE WITH THE CITY FOR THE 2010, EIGHT. 
          IT WAS ISSUED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE SPLASH PAD AND SOME DECK SPECIAL ASSESSMENT NEEDS, UH, THE TAX STATUS ON IT IS TAX EXEMPT. 
          AND THEN WE LIST THE ORIGINAL CAR OUTSTANDING AT $2.9 MILLION IN THAT CASE. 
          AND THEN WHAT IS OUTSTANDING TO DATE? UM, UNDER THE 2010 DAYS, IT'S $190,000. 
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THAT ONE IS CLOSE TO BEING PAID OFF. 
          UM, AT THIS TIME IT WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED BACK IN 2010 INTO THE FINAL MATURITY FOR EACH ONE OF THESE. 
          AND THIS ONE IS LISTED AT 12 ONE TO 2021. 
          AND THE OPTIONAL REDEMPTION FOR THAT DEAL, UH, IS, UH, 12 ONE TO 20. 
          SO THE OPTIONAL REDEMPTION MEANS THAT THE FIRST DATE THAT WE CAN CALL THE BOND AND REFINANCE AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION, NOT AT THE INVESTOR'S DISCRETION. 
          SO IT'S OUR ABILITY TO REFINANCE THE BOND. 
          IF WE SO CHOOSE OR PAY IT OFF, WE THEN LIST EACH CREDIT RATING FOR EACH DEAL FOR YOU. 
          UH, AND THEN WHAT TYPE OF TRANSACTION IT IS, IF IT WAS A CAPITAL MARKETS DEAL OR A SIBLING LOAN, OR A PRIVATE PLACEMENT WITH A BANK, UH, AND THEN DOWN BELOW THERE, WE, THE LAST TWO COLUMNS WE INDICATE WHAT IS THE REPAYMENT SOURCE. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS THE GENERAL FUND AND SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, AND THEN WHAT THE MAX ANNUAL TH THAT SERVICES FOR, FOR THAT BOND ISSUE SPECIFICALLY. 
          BUT, AND SO THAT WAS THE 2010, A'S THE 2010 BS. 
          UM, IT IS, UM, MADE UP OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, PURPOSES. 
          UH, AND SO WE'RE GONNA TRANSITION DOWN AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE FOR YOU, BUT THIS GIVES YOU A LAYOUT THAT I BELIEVE YOU DIDN'T GET A COPY OF THIS, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, UH, TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND ANALYZE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THERE, THE WATER BONDS THAT ARE LISTED IN BLUE, UH, THE INCOME TAX REVENUE BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER, AGAIN, THE 2014 WATER REVENUE BONDS, THE SIBLING IN 2014, IT WAS FOR THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIF AND THE MUSIC CENTER. 
          AND THEN THE 2015 LTU FIRE BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED. 
          THE NEXT PAGE CONTINUES ON WITH THE 2016 SIBLINGS, NO, THE 2017, UH, LIMITED TAX YEAR AND ALLEGATIONS AT ISSUE FOR CARRIAGE TRAILS. 
          UH, THE GREEN COLUMN, THERE IS THE CARRIAGE TRAILS AND MUSIC CENTER 2017. 
          UH, THE BROWN IS THE VARIOUS PURPOSE ISSUE IN 17. 
          THAT WAS A REFINANCING OF SOME 2010 BONDS, UM, 2010 BONDS AS A MUSIC CENTER FINANCING AS WELL. 
          AND THEN IN 2020, YOU HAVE, UH, ODDA LOANS FOR THE WATER SYSTEM. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THERE ARE VARIOUS LEASES THAT WE WANTED TO LIST OUT FOR YOU. 
          IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AT ONCE, BUT, UM, WANTED TO LIST IT OUT FOR YOU INDIVIDUALLY BY, UH, BY, BY FINANCING SOURCE THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. 
          SO DOWN BELOW, AND THIS NEXT SLIDE, WE THEN COME DOWN INTO THE FUNDING SOURCE AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BREAK IT OUT AS TO HAVE ALL THAT, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS UP ON FOUR AND FIVE TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO THE FUNDING SOURCE, UM, FOR THE, FOR THOSE BOND ISSUES. 
          AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE COMPILED ALL THE DEBT FOR MY, THE MIAMI COUNTY TO IF IT'S PAID OUT OF THAT TIF DISTRICT. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE THE CARIOUS TRAILS IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AQUATIC CENTER. 
          AND IN THERE, WE ARE THE COMBINATION OF CITY, CITY LTG O UH, BONDS AND GAS TAX REVENUE ON SOME OF THE CIVIL LOANS, UH, THE ORIGINAL PAR ON ALL THAT DEBT WAS $26 MILLION. 
          AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL BE DOWN TO 20, A LITTLE OVER 20 MILLION HOURS IN THE FINAL MATURITY OF THOSE BONDS. 
          AND THE MIAMI COUNTY TIF IS, UM, 12 ONE TO 37. 
          AND IN ALL THOSE BONDS IN AGGREGATE HAVE INTEREST RATES THAT RANGE FROM 2.67 TO 5.92, AND THE MAXIMUM DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IN THAT ISSUE IS IN THAT TIF DISTRICT IS ABOUT $2.1 MILLION A YEAR GOING TO GO THROUGH THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIP, AS WELL AS THE NEXT COLUMN. 
          OVER AGAIN, WE LIST DOWN IT'S ALL FOR THE MUSIC CENTER IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS WHAT'S BEING PAID OUT OF THERE. 
          UM, WE HAVE A COMBINATION LTG O BONDS AND GAS TAXES AS PAYMENT SOURCES, UM, ORIGINAL AMOUNT ISSUED AT 20.5 MILLION. 
          WE ARE NOW AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, DOWN A LITTLE OVER 18.7 MILLION HOURS. 
          THE FINAL MATURITY IN THERE IS 12 ONE OF 2042 AND INTEREST RATES THAT GO FROM 2.63 TO 3.35, AND THERE'S A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, ALMOST $1.1 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE A YEAR. 
          UM, THE OTHER TWO FUNDS ARE, I WOULD SAY BY FUNDING SOURCE THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT WOULD BE THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT BONDS THAT ARE PAID OUT OF GARRETT'S TRAILS IMPROVEMENTS AND THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS UP THERE. 
          AND THAT IS ALL LTG O BONDS OR LTO CREDIT, ORIGINAL PART $9.5 MILLION. 
          WE'RE DOWN TO 8.1 MILLION. 
          UM, 
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FINAL PAYMENT IS 2042 INTEREST RATES FROM 3.35 TO 5% IN THE MAX DEBT SERVICE. 
          THERE IS ABOUT $1.3 MILLION. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, THE WATER FUND, UH, WATER FUND IS ACTUALLY, UM, ONE OF THE ONES YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S THE COOL OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, ROOFING HAS SOME DEBT FOR SOME SAVINGS. 
          AND SO WE CURRENTLY, UM, ORIGINALLY HAD $41 MILLION AND DEBT ISSUED FOR THAT SYSTEM. 
          WE'RE DOWN TO 28.4 MILLION. 
          UM, AND THE FINAL MATURITY ON THAT, MAINLY FROM THE ODDA LOANS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING IS 2050 WITH INTEREST RATES FROM 3% TO 4.7, 5% IN ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE, ABOUT 4.6 MILLION HOURS. 
          SO WE TOOK ALL THAT INFORMATION AND WANTED TO PUT IT IN A GRAPHICAL FORMAT FOR YOU. 
          WOULD THEY SHOW YOU GRAPHICALLY HOW THIS LAYS OUT OVER TIME? AND SO HERE YOU SEE THE MIAMI COUNTY TIF DISTRICTS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT THAT'S REQUIRED EACH YEAR, UH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S PRETTY LEVEL, AND THEN IT STARTS TO TAIL OFF OVER TIME. 
          UH, WE DO NOTE THERE FOR YOU IN 2032, YOU SEE THAT SPIKE, UM, THE, THE BONDS WERE DESIGNED BECAUSE THOSE ARE PRIVATELY PLACED. 
          I BELIEVE WITH HUNTINGTON BANK THAT THERE'S ABOUT THREE YEARS LEFT TWO TO THREE YEARS LEFT OF PRINCIPLE THAT THE CITY, IF AT THAT POINT IN TIME, ABOUT $865,000 WORTH WILL EITHER NEED TO REFINANCE IN 2032 OR PAY THAT OFF. 
          UM, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, UM, IN TERMS OF THAT, THAT, THAT MATURITY THAT COMES THROUGH IN 2042, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT TAILS OFF TO 2038 UNLESS OTHER DEBT IS ISSUED IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, THIS NEXT SLIDE IS THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIFF. 
          UH, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, I WOULD SLOWLY OVER TIME. 
          UM, PRETTY MUCH THEY SALE THAT $1.4 MILLION AMOUNT. 
          UH, THERE IS A SLIGHT BLIP THERE IN 2021, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT REFINANCING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF NEXT YEAR, UH, ON A PRIVATE PLACEMENT ISSUE, THAT'LL THEN GET SMOOTHED DOWN OVER TIME. 
          BUT, UM, THAT DEBT FALLS OFF IN 20 AND 2043. 
          AND I THINK YOU WENT SOME DISCUSSION THAT I HAD ALREADY ABOUT THE TIFF BEING EXTENDED. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THEREAFTER 2042 IS THAT LAST PAYMENT THAT GOES DOWN TO ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 800,000 CALLED $850,000 A YEAR. 
          I THINK NEGATIVE HERE IS THE, UM, THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT BONDS IN THIS LIST HERE, UH, SHOWS YOU, UH, THE, UM, THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST. 
          UH, AND IN THIS CASE, WHAT'S LEFT ON, ON THOSE ISSUES STARTING IN 2020, ALL THE WAY UP TO 2042, THE PURPLE BAND, THERE IS THE PRINCIPAL PORTION. 
          AND THEN THE GREEN IS THE INTEREST PORTION FOR THOSE BONDS. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE DROP OFF IN 2028 TO 2029 SIGNIFICANT PORTION DOWN IN TERMS OF THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT THAT THAT'S, UH, THAT, THAT WILL BE OUTSTANDING AT THAT POINT. 
          AND THEN OUR FINAL CHART FOR YOU TONIGHT IS THE WATER BONDS. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THAT THERE'S ISSUE OUT THERE THAT HAS, UH, THAT HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING FOR QUITE SOME TIME IN 1995 WATER REVENUE BONDS, WHEN THOSE WERE ISSUED, THAT'S THE, UM, THE FIRST COLUMN HERE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE FINAL MATURITY IS 2025. 
          UH, THOSE WERE ISSUED AS NON-CORE LEVELS. 
          UM, SO WE, WE'D NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO REFINANCE THOSE. 
          UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH A LOT OF THE DEBT THAT THERE'S A DROP-OFF THAT COMES IN LATER IN 2031 FOR A DEBT VERBUS. 
          AND WE DROPPED FROM ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 2.5 CALLED $2.6 MILLION A YEAR DOWN TO ONE FIVE, AND THEN AS MORE DEBT GETS PAID OFF, WE DROP OFF AGAIN IN 2038. 
          AND SO THOSE WERE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE, THAT MAKE UP YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR WATER FUND DEBT SERVICE. 
          THEN WE'LL WALK THROUGH A FEW ISSUES HERE. 
          UM, I DO THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY, UM, BUT THE 2014 AVON IS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, UM, WAS ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE BOND ISSUES WE'VE BEEN WATCHING AND TALKING WITH JIM ABOUT, UM, THESE WILL, UH, WE STEP BACK A BIT WHEN THEY DID THE TAX REFORM ACT A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY TOOK AWAY THE ABILITY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ADVANCE REFUND BONDS BEFORE THE CALL DATE AND, AND ATTAIN SAVINGS. 
          AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO, UNLESS THEY CHANGE, AND THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION IN THE CURRENT OF THE, THE HOUSE BILL THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR, HAD SOME PROVISIONS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU TO GO BACK TO REFINANCING DEBT BEFORE THE CALL DATE, UH, BUT WE'RE STILL HELD UNDER THOSE REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND SO OUR 
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FIRST OPTION ON A 2014, A BONDS, UH, COMES UP NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, AND SO AUGUST OF NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE THE CHANCE ON THIS ISSUE TO, UM, IF THE, IF THE MARKET MAKES SENSE TO TAKE A LOOK AT REFINANCING, NOT EXTENDING THE DEBT LIFE, UM, NOT INCREASING IT, BUT, UM, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE INTEREST RATES THAT ARE OUTSTANDING, WHICH WERE ABOUT 4.7%. 
          UH, AND RIGHT NOW ALMOST CUTTING THAT IN HALF. 
          AND JUST FOR THE 1300 BONDS, WE'D BE LOOKING AT A NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF ABOUT $1.1 MILLION, UM, ASKED ABOUT 26.7% SAVINGS. 
          UH, YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT THESE DAYS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS ON A REFINANCING OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, WE TYPICALLY, UH, THE MARKET INDUSTRY STANDARDS IS TO LOOK AT A REFINANCING WHEN IT'S IN THE THREE TO 5% RANGE. 
          AND SO I THINK TFOA, UM, THEIR STANDARDS OR THEIR SUGGESTED IS OVER 5%. 
          AND YOU SEE THERE ON THAT ISSUE WHERE AT 26.7% SAVINGS. 
          SO THAT'LL BE, UH, SOME ABOUT AUGUST OF NEXT YEAR WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THE SAME. 
          UM, WE HAVE THE 2014 WATER BONDS, UH, AND WHEN WE DID THIS ISSUE YEARS AGO, WE MADE SURE AT TIMED UP WITH THE PREVIOUS ISSUE IN TERMS OF A REFINANCING OPPORTUNITY IF IT EVER CAME UP. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS ONE IS, UH, DECEMBER 1ST OF NEXT YEAR, SAME TIME FRAME ON THIS ISSUE. 
          UH, THE AVERAGE INTEREST RATES THAT ARE OUTSTANDING ABOUT 3.19%, UM, AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET DOWN TO ABOUT 1.5, 7%, AGAIN, A NICE SAVINGS, $823,000 IN NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS ABOUT 10.5, 1% PERCENTAGE WISE, THE LAST OR THE LAST ONE FOR REFINANCING SAVINGS IS THE INCOME TAX REVENUE BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED BACK IN 13. 
          THIS AGAIN HAS A 12 ONE OF 21, UM, OPTIONAL CALL REDEMPTION FOR US. 
          AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ABOUT ONE POINT ALMOST ALMOST $1.3 MILLION IN SAVINGS, A 20% SAVINGS, UM, UH, FOR THAT ISSUE. 
          SO, UH, KEEPING YOUR FINGERS CROSSED SOME NICE SAVINGS, UH, OPEN TO THE CITY NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, AND JUST TO SUMMARIZE YOU WITH NEXT STEPS ON THIS LAST PAGE FROM, UM, WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR, AND, AND WHEN YOU'LL BE BACK SEEING LEGISLATION, UM, THE MUSIC CENTER, PRIVATE PLACEMENT WITH HUNTINGTON BANK, ABOUT $7.7 MILLION MATURES, SIX ONE 21. 
          SO JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE BACK WITH THE LEGISLATION PROCESS TO REFINANCE THOSE BONDS INTO A LONGER, UH, FIXED RATE ISSUE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT DONE IN MAY 21, TWO TO MEET WHEN THAT, UH, THAT 7.7 COMES DUE ON THAT ISSUE. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THAT DEAL, WE DIDN'T FAKE THE INTEREST RATES WOULD BE ANY LOWER THAN WHAT WE GOT OR THAT FINANCED APP, BUT I MEAN, EVERYTHING IN THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY LOWER INTEREST RATES THAN WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAYING ON THE MUSIC FINANCING. 
          UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE WATER BONDS, UM, THE 13 AND THE 14 ISSUES. 
          THOSE WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU, UM, PROBABLY THE LEGISLATION PROJECTS PROCESS IN MAY OF 21, THE EARLIEST WE COULD ACTUALLY ISSUE THE BONDS IN THE MARKET WOULD BE AUGUST THE 21, UH, AND THAT'S, UM, 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE CALL DATE. 
          AND SO THAT'S, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE SAVINGS ON THAT ISSUE. 
          WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE 2013, IT COMES TAX REVENUE BONDS AS A POSSIBLE REFINANCING, AND THAT'LL TAKE THE SAME PROCESS AND TIME TIMELINE AS THE, UH, THE WATER BOND MAY 21, UH, WITH AN ISSUE ON SOMETIME IN AUGUST THE 21. 
          UH, AND THEN THE 2020 BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES WILL COME DO THAT. 
          WE'RE JUST CLOSED, UH, THIS WEEK. 
          UH, THOSE WILL MATURE, UM, UH, NOVEMBER 17TH OF 21. 
          UH, THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO RENEW THAT FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR. 
          AND SO WE'LL START THAT PROCESS, UH, PROBABLY AUGUST, SEPTEMBER TO, UH, TO GET THE LEGISLATION IN LINE TO GET THAT PASSED IN TIME. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED INTERNALLY ABOUT, UH, BECAUSE RATES ARE SO LOW, UH, IS TO TAKE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL LONG-TERM AND FIND THAT SAME TIME WITH THE MUSIC CENTER FINANCING. 
          AND WE'RE ABLE TO COMBINE THOSE TOGETHER FOR SALE PURPOSES AND SAVE MONEY AND KEEP THE, UH, ISSUANCE COSTS DOWN. 
          UH, AND BECAUSE RATES ARE SO LOW, THAT'S ALL IT IS TO GET THAT FIXED PERMANENTLY AT THIS PRESENT TIME. 
          UH, ONE OTHER ITEM IS THAT DOWN THE ROAD, THE, UM, UM, THE SERIES 15 THIRD STREET, OR STARTS RIGHT THIRD AT FIRE STATION FINANCING, AND IT WAS DONE IN 2015, 1.8 MILLION TAX EXEMPT, LTO TTO BONDS TO BE REFINANCED IN 12 ONE TO 23. 
          UH, WELL, WITH THE BEGINNING OF THAT PROCESS, UH, AND, UH, IN AUGUST THE 23. 
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SO THAT IS, UM, UM, A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE DEBT. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY HATE DOING IT THAT WAY. 
          I WOULD PREFER FOLKS JUMPING IN WITH QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG, INSTEAD OF ME, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME, BUT, UM, THAT IS A, UM, WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT. 
          AND, UH, ROB, I GUESS WE'RE READY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MAY HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU HAVE A COMMENT, MRS. BERG HAS HAD HER HAND UP EARLIER. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK HER IF SHE HAS A QUESTION AND MR. WEBB HAS HIS HANDS UP ALSO, THIS IS JENNIFER. 
          HE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MR. WEB QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          UM, THANK YOU, MIRROR. 
          HI, ANDY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, UH, WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND ROB DID GET, UH, AN ADVANCED COPY OF THE PRESENTATION OUT TO ALL OF US. 
          SO JUST ENOUGH TO FALL ON THE SCREEN NECESSARILY SEE IT ON A BIGGER FORMAT AND, UH, UH, VERY CLEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          W ONE, ONE, ONE COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, UM, INDIE, IF YOU COULD GO TO, UM, SLIDE EIGHT AND JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS AND, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIFF, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, AND, AND EVEN UP TO SLIDE SIX, IT DEFINES OUT WHAT THE SOURCES OF DEBT SERVICE ALLOCATION IS, UH, FUNDED THROUGH AND BY THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIFF, UM, ALL OF THE DEBT SERVICE CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY TIF IS COVERED AND TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH THAT AND THAT OLD, UM, FUNDING SOURCE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, UH, ANYTHING THAT IS CURRENTLY INCLUDING THE MUSIC CENTER, UH, INCLUDING, UH, REMAINING FINANCING FOR THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS OR THE AQUATIC CENTER, ET CETERA, THAT WOULD BE ATTACHED TO THAT FUNDING SOURCE. 
          IT'S COVERED THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS DEMONSTRATES, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          AGAIN, COUNSEL, I THINK THAT AS WE EMBARKED UPON THE 2025 PLAN, YOU RECALL, UH, THAT WE TOOK ON A FINANCIAL POLICY. 
          WE DID SOME RESTRUCTURING, SOME OF THOSE REFINANCINGS IN 17 THAT, UH, UH, THAT ANDY REFERENCED, UH, AGAIN, A COMMON THEME TONIGHT IS IDENTIFYING THINGS THAT ARE, UH, WORTHY OF SUCCESS, UH, AND CELEBRATION, UH, PROMISES, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THE OUTPUT AND SUCCESS OF THE INVESTMENTS MADE ON THEIR BEHALF. 
          UH, HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE, UH, THAT THE PLANS PUT IN PLACE, THE POLICY SET ARE WORKING AND, UH, BY ALL, UH, EDUCATED, UH, PROFESSIONAL ESTIMATES AND GUESSES AND THEORIES IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO, SO ROB, I HAVE A COMMENT, SO I'M LOOKING OVER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, ALL THE SLIDES HERE, LISTENING TO PRESENTATION AND, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION FOR NEXT YEAR AND HEARING THE THINGS THAT MR BELAN SAID. 
          I MEAN, AS I, YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT THESE, UM, AND I KNOW ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT I WASN'T RUNNING, BUT PAYING ATTENTION, UM, AND MR. BELL HAD MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REVENUE STREAMS, THE CITY HAS REVENUE STREAMS THAT COVER DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'RE PAYING. 
          SO WHEN I LOOK AT KNOWING WE HAVE REVENUE STREAMS THAT COVER DEBT SERVICE, UH, WE HAVE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, A NET BUDGET INCREASE OR DECREASE ACTUALLY. 
          UM, WE LOOK AT THAT, THAT NET OF 330, $3,000, WE LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE DONE, THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKEN, UM, THAT, THAT WE, WE BORROWED SAVINGS, FUTURE SAVINGS FOR INTEREST RATES, UM, THE POTENTIAL OF $45 MILLION WE FOUND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          I MEAN, I, WHEN I LOOK AT THE FINANCES OF OUR CITY, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE IN INCREDIBLY GOOD SHAPE. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS STUFF WRONG, UH, IF I'M HEARING SOMETHING WRONG, THEN YEAH, SOMEBODY WOULD NEED TO TELL ME. 
          BUT I THINK, UH, CITIZENS ARE WATCHING THIS PAYING ATTENTION WHO, WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CITY'S FINANCES? UM, LOOK, I THINK THIS IS A TIME TO TELL EVERYONE, EVERYONE KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. 
          WE'VE MADE GOOD DECISIONS WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THOSE DECISIONS. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING TOP QUALITY TOP-NOTCH SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF HEBER HEIGHTS AND FINANCIALLY SPEAKING. 
          UH, I THINK THE, I THINK THE SHIP IS DEFINITELY HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          NOW, IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 
          NO, I'M CERTAINLY NOT THE 
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FINANCIAL ADVISOR, BUT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AND, AND HELPING IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE GOALS OF POLICY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND, UH, WORKING ON SOME STUFF ADMINISTRATIVELY THAT SLIDE, I WAS GOING TO ASK A HANDY TO GO TO KIND OF SPEAKS IN, IN SAYS IT ALL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD NOT BE RATED IN THE AREA THAT WE WOULD NOR WOULD INVESTORS BE WILLING TO BUY, UH, OUR, UH, OUR REQUESTS FOR BONDS AND DEBT. 
          HAD WE NOT SHOWN STRONG FISCAL POLICIES AND THE ABILITY TO MANAGE AND PAY THAT DEBT OFF. 
          UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF SAYS IT ALL THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU TALK ABOUT REVENUES. 
          UH, CERTAINLY IF WE DID NOT HAVE ADEQUATE REDDIT REVENUES ENABLED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THROUGH THE VARIOUS METHODS THAT WE DO THROUGH AUDITING, UH, THROUGH THAT INDEPENDENT SOURCE, UH, THREE PLUS ONE, AND THE CASH FAST RATING, ALL THOSE THINGS CONTRIBUTE TO DEMONSTRATING NOT ONLY WHAT WE THINK THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE HAVE THAT CHECKED INDEPENDENTLY. 
          AND, UH, THE BOND RATING IS YET ANOTHER WAY THAT WE ARE REVIEWED INDEPENDENTLY WITH ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          AND I THINK THAT IN AND OF ITSELF DEMONSTRATES IT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY COULD BE STATING, WELL, THE CITY SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY DEBT AT ALL. 
          UM, I I'D LIKE TO FIND THERE, AND MAYBE THERE'S A CITY OUT THERE THAT IS LIKE THAT, BUT IN REALITY, THAT'S JUST NOT. 
          UH, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CONTROL, UH, I THINK THAT WE MANAGE A CONTROL WELL. 
          UH, AND, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS, THAT IS CERTAINLY DEMONSTRATED NOT BY US, BUT BY THOSE INDEPENDENT SOURCES AND OUR ABILITY TO, UH, TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, USING THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          WE CAN NOT OPERATE IN A NEGATIVE OR DEFICIT SITUATION. 
          UH, WE W YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE, UH, LEGALLY OR STRUCTURALLY BALANCED. 
          UH, IF NOT, THEN WE GO INTO A STATE OF A FISCAL EMERGENCY. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DEMONSTRATIONS SHOW THAT THE COURSES THAT WE'VE TAKEN IN THE PATH THAT WE'RE ON, I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT INCREASE OF OUR FUND BALANCES GO BACK SIX YEARS AND SEE WHERE THEY WERE COMPARED TO TODAY. 
          UH, THAT'S TAKEN EFFORT, UH, AND AT THE SAME TIME, LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE INVESTED IN, WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? WELL, THAT HAPPENS THROUGH GOOD STRONG POLICY, UH, AND THAT HAPPENS THROUGH, UM, THROUGH MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE UTILIZING THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE WELL, UH, THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, COMMUNITY CONSUMER CONFIDENCE HIGH, AND WE'VE GOT CONFIDENCE IN THOSE INDEPENDENT RATING SOURCES, UH, AS BEING HIGH. 
          UM, SO, SO YEAH, ALL THAT SAID, I THINK YOUR STATEMENT IS EASILY SUPPORTIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN I THINK ABOUT JUST, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE MONEY, THAT WE'VE SPENT MONEY, THAT WE BORROWED TO, TO REINVEST IN THE CITY, UH, ALL THE WHILE HAVING, HAVING REVENUE THAT COVERS THE DEBT SERVICE, ALL THE, AND ALL THE WHILE I'M ABLE TO PUT MORE MONEY IN THAT RAINY DAY FUND, INCREASING OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE, HAVING THE MONEY TO DO THAT, UM, SHOWS SO IS VERY SOUND FISCAL MANAGEMENT ON THE STAFF AND, UH, AND THE POLICY THAT THE COUNCIL MAKES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK, AGAIN, I'D HEARD, UM, ON ONE OF THE MEETINGS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, AGAIN, IT WAS A MEETING WHILE I WAS SICK. 
          I WASN'T RUNNING THAT MEETING, BUT I HEARD THE QUESTION ASKED, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MONEY IN CASH DOES THE CITY HAVE? WHAT KIND OF MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THE TOTAL OF ALL THOSE FUNDS? AND I BELIEVE MR. BELL SAID THAT NUMBER WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND $45 MILLION, CORRECT. 
          SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THAT GROW, WE SPEND SOME OF THE MONEY OUT OF THOSE FUNDS THAT COME UP FOR THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THE DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THE CITY THAT IT'S DEPENDENT ON THAT MONEY, BUT ALL IN ALL THOSE, THOSE FUND BALANCES WERE $45 MILLION YEARS AGO. 
          THEY'RE STILL $45 MILLION. 
          SO THAT SOUND FISCAL MANAGEMENT, ALL THE, WHILE WE'VE GROWN THE GENERAL FUND, WE'VE ADDED AMENITIES TO THE CITY. 
          I BELIEVE WE'VE MADE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS BETTER. 
          AND, AND WE STILL HAVE STRONG FISCAL MANAGEMENT AND THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN HUBER HEIGHTS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC AND I COULDN'T BE MORE PLEASED. 
          YES, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE, UH, HAPPY AND, AND CELEBRATING THAT COMING OUT OF, UH, UH, WE ALL WANT 2020 IN OUR REAR VIEW MIRROR. 
          AND, UM, AND, UH, WE, UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD, A GOOD STEPPING STONE TO, TO LAUNCH US INTO 21 WITH EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S OCCURRED. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT HAS TO DO WITH JIM, THERE'S SO MUCH THAT THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY DOES THAT. 
          I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY REALIZE, UH, HE'S, HE'S NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL THAT MAKES SURE THAT THE BOOKS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR, BUT AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE AWARD GIVEN FOR THE LIQUIDITY AND THE MANAGEMENT OF IT, UH, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, UH, JIM JUST TALKED ABOUT, WE RECEIVED THE PROCEEDS OF THOSE NOTES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE PURCHASES. 
          WELL, JIM FIRST THING IN THE MORNING IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRING THAT TO START OHIO, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL AND ENHANCED INTEREST THAT WE CAN COLLECT UNTIL WE DRAW AROUND TO USE THOSE FUNDS, HE'S DOING IT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IN LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INVEST, TO MAKE SURE TO MAXIMIZE, UH, THE LIQUIDITY THAT WE HAVE TO GET THE 
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LARGEST PART OF RETURN. 
          A LOT OF OUR, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR REVENUE IS INTEREST INCOME. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS, IS TO GET AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW, IS WE CAN'T, THERE WAS INTEREST INCOME IN THE CARES FUND. 
          SO IN THE SHORT TIME THAT WE HAD THAT MONEY, JIM MADE INTEREST ON IT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, GOOD SOUND POLICIES. 
          SO, UM, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL, AS POLICYMAKERS, I HAVE AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF CONFIDENCE IN, IN WHAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT IN PLACE. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HEARING REPORTS LIKE THIS, UH, CONTINUING TO HAVE THE LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THAT WE HAVE SO THAT THE, UH, THE TAXPAYERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVIEW AND, AND SEE AND CHALLENGE US ON ANYTHING. 
          UM, I THINK ALL CONTRIBUTES TO, UH, TO THAT OVERALL CONFIDENCE MOVING FORWARD. 
          THANKS, REBECCA. 
          I COULDN'T, I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE, UH, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT GOES INTO, UM, MANAGING A CITY WITH A BUDGET APPROACHING MILLION DOLLARS. 
          SO, UH, GREAT WORK TO EVERYBODY, MR. CAMPBELL, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES, ANDY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, JIM BELL. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE'VE WENT THROUGH A GREAT RECESSION AND NOW COVID, UM, WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OF HOW WE'VE HANDLED THINGS? WELL, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE SEEN, UH, HIGHS AND WE'VE SEEN LOWS, AND I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE ON A HIGH. 
          AND, UH, AND I KNOW YOU'VE CHALLENGED ME OVER OVER THE YEARS AND, UH, I'M SURE YOU'RE, UH, AWFULLY PROUD TONIGHT TO THE FACT THAT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEIR IDEAS ABOUT THE MUSIC CENTER IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE PROMISED THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE OUT. 
          LONG-TERM WHAT WE COULD AT THE BEGINNING. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, OKAY, WHEN WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO GO LONG-TERM WITH THE REMAINING 7.7 MILLION, WE WOULD COME AND DO IT. 
          AND, UH, AND NOW IT'S THE TIME NEXT YEAR WHERE WE CAN TAKE IT. 
          AND SO THE COMMUNITY CAN KNOW THAT THE ENTIRE, UH, MUSIC CENTER DEBT IS GOING TO BE COVERED BY THE TIF REVENUES. 
          UM, I'M PROUD OF THE CITIZENS CAN, THE SUPPORT THEY'VE SHOWN. 
          I'M PROUD OF EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER PRESENT AND PAST AND, UH, STAFF, UH, IN ALL THE WORKERS. 
          UM, I BELIEVE ONE THING WE CAN ALL TAKE PRIDE IN AS A COMMUNITY. 
          UH, ROB, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER A TIME WHEN BLADE EMPLOYEES OFF, AM I CORRECT? I, I'VE NEVER KNOWN IN MY 25 YEARS, UH, AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY. 
          I'VE NEVER KNOWN IT TO OCCUR, BUT I'M PROUD TO WORK WITH EVERYONE AGAIN, PRESENT AND PAST. 
          UM, UM, I'M VERY IMPRESSED GETTING A SUMMARY. 
          WE, WE DON'T TYPICALLY TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW AND THEN CELEBRATE ON THIS LEVEL. 
          SO I DO APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND AGAIN, THE GOAL WAS TO MAKE SURE OUR DEBT SITUATION IS COMMONLY TALKED ABOUT, AND WE FEEL THAT WE DO REVIEW IT. 
          UH, BUT I THINK FROM THE STANDPOINT AND PERSPECTIVE OF OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, UH, BEING ABLE TO CATEGORIZE IT LIKE THIS, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, UH, ANDY'S WORK ON THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS AND INFORMATION IS SOMETHING, AS I TOLD YOU EARLY ON, WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, UH, THIS YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING IN KNOWING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE NEXT YEAR, UM, OR AN ISSUE ONCE, UM, FOR DEBT. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THE STRUCTURE OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE POSITION THAT WE ARE SO THAT THERE ARE NO, UM, YOU KNOW, FALSE IMPRESSIONS OR, OR BAD ASSUMPTIONS. 
          UH, THE FACT IS THAT OUR POLICIES AND OUR PRACTICES HAVE BEEN FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND WE ARE IN A, IN A HIGH QUALITY RATING. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, ANDY. 
          ALSO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UM, FOR ANDY OR FOR ROB, UH, OR FOR MR. BELL? UH, REGARDING A BUDGET PRESENTATION OR A DECK SUMMARY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          SO DO WE NEED TO, UM, UH, SO ARE THERE, WERE THERE TWO PORTIONS OF THE BUDGET THAT WOULD BE COMING FORTH? UH, WHAT DO WE NEED, IF ANYTHING, FOR THE COUNSELING, FOR, UM, FOR ANY TYPE OF APPROVAL OR WOULD THAT COME IN DIFFERENT STAGES? I KNOW, YEAH, WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO BRING FORWARD, UM, ARE ALREADY, WE HAVE THE BUDGET ORDINANCE, UH, THAT ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE REGARDING, UM, UM, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE STAFFING TABLE, UH, WAS THE OTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION, UH, IN THE OVERALL DISCUSSION. 
          SO, UH, WHATEVER COUNCIL WOULD, UM, OBJECTIONS TO MOVE THIS ON FORWARD TO MONDAY FOR THE ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE HAS ALREADY 
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HAD A FIRST READING. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THIS SECOND READING AND, UH, AS PRESENTED AT THE AMENDED ORDINANCE. 
          SO WHAT COUNCIL WOULD BE ACTING ON ON MONDAY WOULD BE TO AMANDA, THAT ORDINANCE TO THE REVISED VERSION, AND THEN ADOPTING IT AT THE SECOND READING ON MONDAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS, HEY, SEEING NONE HEARING NONE. 
          THAT'S HOW THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD. 
          NEXT UP AS ITEM THREE L, WHICH IS THE 2021 MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER AGREEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SORRY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THE OTHER LEGISLATION, ROB REFERENCED, UH, AS FAR AS THE STAFFING LEVELS, WAS THAT GOING TO BE SEEN ON MONDAY AS WELL? I THINK THAT WAS JUST, WAS THAT JUST FOR THE PRESENTATION PORTION THERE, ROB, OR, UH, WHO NEEDED TO MAKE ANY, WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT, CORRECT? NO, THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION DOESN'T AFFECT CHANGE OUR EXISTING STAFFING TABLE, AS I INDICATED, AND BASED ON THE DISCUSSION AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PRESENT MOVING FORWARD, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION, UM, BASED ON EARLIER DISCUSSIONS, ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE STAFFING TABLES THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SEE THAT AS WELL. 
          THANKS, ROB. 
          OKAY. 
          [  2021 Montgomery County Public Defender Agreement]
NEXT ITEM, 2021 MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER AGREEMENT. 
          MR. ROGERS. 
          YES. 
          UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCIL SAW A FEW MEETINGS AGO FOR THE MIAMI COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER AGREEMENT. 
          THIS IS THE AGREEMENT FOR, UH, 2021 FOR THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER, UH, TO REPRESENT INDIGENT, UM, UH, PERSONS WITHIN THE CITY. 
          UH, THEY MAINTAIN THE SAME RATES, UH, IN CONTRACT AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS, WHICH IS A RATE OF $222 AND 84 CENTS PER CASE. 
          SO THEY'VE MAINTAINED THAT GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR, SAME AS IN, UH, 2020. 
          UH, THIS IS A RESOLUTION AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS IN PLACE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, TO BE READY FOR 2021. 
          SO THE REQUEST WOULD BE TO, UH, PUT THIS RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA FOR ADOPTION ON MONDAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANKS TONY. 
          ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? OKAY, WELL THEN ONTO MONDAY'S MEETING, NEXT UP IS ITEM 
          [  Liquor Permit #60766850005 - Modern Food and Gas - 5186 Brandt Pike]
THREE IN THE LIQUOR PERMIT, NUMBER SIX (076) 685-0005 OR MODERN FOOD AND GAS AT 51 86 BRAND. 
          YES, THIS IS A TRANSFER OF A LIQUOR PERMIT AT 51 86 BRAND PIKE. 
          UH, THIS IS FORMERLY THE DOUBLE DEUCES PROPERTY, UM, THAT HAS BEEN, UH, DEMOLISHED THE BUILDING AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION. 
          AND SO IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE OPERATING UNDER THE NAME, UM, MODERN FOOD AND GAS DOING BUSINESS AS DOUBLE DEUCES. 
          AND, UH, THIS LIQUOR PERMIT TRANSFER HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE POLICE AND FIRE DIVISIONS. 
          AND THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE TRANSFER OF THE LIQUOR PERMIT. 
          SO WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL ON MONDAY, HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE TRANSFER OF THAT LIKE OF PERMIT. 
          THANKS, MR. ROGERS. 
          UM, MS. BURCH, YES. 
          UM, IS SINCE IT'S GOT THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, I THINK THE DBA OF DEVIL DEUCE, UM, IS IT THE SAME OWNER, TONY? DO YOU KNOW, IT'S LISTED AS DIFFERENT CORPORATE ENTITIES, UM, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE DOING A TRANSFER BETWEEN THE ENTITIES AS FAR AS THE STOCKHOLDERS OR SHAREHOLDERS BEHIND THE CORPORATION. 
          I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT'S THE SAME PEOPLE AS THE CURRENT OWNERS. 
          SO DO WE HAVE, UM, IT JUST SEEMS WEIRD THAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING A LICENSE WHEN THERE'S JUST AN EMPTY LOT THERE. 
          UM, SO HAS THE, HAVE THE PLANS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE NEW BUSINESS? UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THAT. 
          UM, SCOTT OR ROB MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT IF THAT'S BEEN THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION YET, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE UNCOMMON THOUGH, TO TRANSFER, UM, A LICENSE TO A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS, UM, AT THE SAME LOCATION. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE A FAIRLY NORMAL, UH, IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, THE FORMER BUSINESS WAS DEMOLISHED, SO, YEAH. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT IT WAS DEMOLISHED AS A STEP TOWARDS THAT THEY'RE ACTIVELY MOVING ON THEIR PLAN TO ESTABLISH THE NEW BUSINESS ABOUT LOCATION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, TONY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM OH, THIS IS FOR TONY ALSO. 
          TONY, IS THERE ANY SIGNIFICANCE TO THE ADDRESS ON THE, 
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UM, LIQUOR LICENSE STATING, UH, 51 86 BRANT PIKE AND PATIO ON BOTH THE OLD, OLD AND THE NEW? UM, I CAN'T SAY I'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE, BUT, UM, THE PROPERTY ADDRESS FURTHER FOR, UH, FORMER DOUBLE DEUCES AND THE PROPOSED ADDRESS SITE FOR, UH, THE GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORY IS, UH, BOTH 51 86. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE ANN PATIO DOESN'T, UH, GRANT THEM THE RIGHT TO, UM, UM, SERVE AS DOUBLE DUTY AS DID OUT ON, OUT IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ANY OF THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN, IN, UH, UH, THE ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THEY'RE LOCATED IN AND BASED ON THE, UH, PERMITTED USE FOR THAT PROPERTY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING, REGARDING THAT? THE CT? OKAY. 
          NEXT UP IS ITEM 
          [  Board and Commission Appointments]
THREE IN THE BORDEN COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. 
          YES. 
          UH, THE LAST ONE, UH, THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT TO, UH, HAVE A NEW MEMBER TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE CURRENT VACANCY ON THAT BOARD THAT THIS WOULD FILL THAT VACANCY. 
          UH, THERE WERE TWO, UH, PEOPLE THAT APPLIED FOR THE OPEN VACANCY. 
          UH, THEY WERE BOTH INTERVIEWED BY OUR INTERVIEW PANEL. 
          UM, CHRISTOPHER HALL WAS SELECTED TO BE THE PERSON TO BE APPOINTED TO THAT VACANCY, UH, FOR A TERM ENDING MARCH 31ST, 2022. 
          UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY PROCESSING THE BACKGROUND CHECK ON, UH, MR. HALL. 
          AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THIS APPOINTMENT ON MONDAY, IF THAT BACKGROUND JACK COMES BACK, UH, PRIOR TO THAT MEETING, UH, THE OTHER CANDIDATE WAS ALSO A QUALIFIED CANDIDATE AND, UH, HAD EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN SOME OTHER, UH, UH, SERVICE ON ONE OF THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE VACANCIES. 
          AND SO WE'LL BE BRINGING FORTH AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT INDIVIDUAL, UH, FOR APPOINTMENTS WITH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OBJECTIONS TO, TO THAT ITEM? OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          WE'LL MOVE THOSE COMMISSION IMPLEMENTS ON TO, UH, ONTO MONDAY ROB REAL QUICK BEFORE, BEFORE WE, UH, ADJOURN, I KNOW THERE IS A REASON FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION SAVINGS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO BEFORE WE ADJOURN BACK ON THE, ON THE STAFFING LEVEL, THEN I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLARIFY, UM, WAS THAT THE, THERE, THERE, THERE WAS READJUSTED NUMBERS IN THE STAFFING LEVELS, IS THAT WHEN I HAD ASKED KIND OF FOR OBJECTIONS TO THAT AS THOSE, IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION, OR I KNOW YOU HAD BROUGHT THAT FOR BASED ON SOME DISCUSSION IN THE PAST, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD ONTO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, IS THAT I FEEL LIKE I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION AROUND THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT WASN'T PART OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE. 
          THAT WAS PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTIONS WERE RAISED IN LIED PREVIOUS. 
          UH, IF THOSE CHANGES, UM, ARE DESIRED, THEN YES, THAT ORDINANCE WOULD NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, AS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WAS DISCUSSED AND PRESENTED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN BASED ON SOME OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S LEGISLATION, I THINK THE WAY THAT WAS LAID OUT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THEY SAW BASED ON THE PREVIOUS NUMBERS AND WHAT THE COUNCIL AGREED TO. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT PARTICULAR STAFFING CHANGE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          MR. CAMPBELL. 
          YES. 
          UH, ROB SHOMER. 
          YES. 
          UH, MAYOR GORE. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN REGARD TO THE STAFFING LEVEL CURRENTLY TONIGHT, UM, WE NEED TO SPEND SOME MORE TIME AND DO SOME MORE RESEARCH, UH, IN MY OPINION, BEFORE WE PUT THAT ON MONDAY'S AGENDA ON, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE CHANGING THAT NUMBER TONIGHT AND MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO, SO THAT STAFFING THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US INCLUDED A NUMBER FOUR FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS, THAT I'M STILL NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ON TOP OF THAT. 
          THAT'S THE NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S, YEAH, I THINK THE, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, IS AS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND ROB, YOU HAD MENTIONED WITH THOSE STAFFING LEVELS, THE WAY THEY LOOK, I THINK, I THINK WE DO NEED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE SHOW PROPER STAFFING LEVELS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT POSITIONS AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S FUNDED AND WHAT'S NOT FUNDED OR UNFUNDED. 
          I THINK SOME 
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OF THOSE, I MEAN, I THINK I'M A PRETTY SMART GUY AS I LOOK AT SOME OF THAT, THAT IS, IT'S DIFFICULT TO KEEP TRACK OF WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE STAFFING LEVELS. 
          UM, SO I'D READ MR. CAMPBELL, I THINK MAYBE WE NEED SOME MORE DISCUSSION AROUND HOW THOSE, HOW THOSE GET LISTED. 
          SO, UH, GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT WHAT YOU PRESENTED, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD IS THAT PIECE. 
          AND I THINK, UH, I'M IN AGREEMENT MR. CAMPBELL, HERE, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT BEFORE WE WOULD AGREE TO CHANGE THOSE STAFFING LEVELS. 
          YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          WE, WE CAN BE PREPARED TO PROVIDE WHATEVER COUNCIL WISHES. 
          SO, SO, UM, TONY, I'M NOT SURE. 
          SO YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT HOW THAT PIECE OF MOVING FORWARD TOO ON THE STAFFING. 
          WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT PIECE NEEDS MOVE FORWARD ON NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. 
          I THINK JUST THE PIECE OF THE, THE SECRETARY FOR THE BUDGET ORDINANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, JUST BECAUSE IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN CIRCLING AROUND THIS WAGON FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW, UM, IS THE CITY MANAGER, AND THIS IS JUST MY CLARIFICATION IS THE CITY MANAGER CLEAR ON WHAT IS BEING ASKED IN THE NEXT WORK SESSION, WHAT HE'LL NEED TO BRING, UM, WHETHER IT'S FUNDED UNFUNDED TO WHAT CHARTS, TO WHAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF SEEMS LIKE, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THERE HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. 
          AND WHAT I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER PROVIDED TODAY WAS VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE UNLESS I'VE MISSED SOMETHING. 
          IS THAT A DIRECT QUESTION TO MR SCHOMER? OR IS IT YEAH, IF, IF MR. SCHOMER IS CLEAR ON WHAT HE NEEDS TO BRING BACK TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHAT HE PRESENTED WAS VERY CLEAR, UM, AND HE PROVIDED A VERY GOOD EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE. 
          AND, UM, AND THOSE WERE FACT, I MEAN, OUTSIDE OF BRINGING THE FIRE CHIEF IN AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTORS, UM, OPINION ON THE POSITION, BUT WE HIRE THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE THAT OVERSIGHT, I GUESS I'M, I MAY BE MISSING SOMETHING HERE AND I APOLOGIZE IF I AM, UH, MAYOR, COULD I SPEAK? YES. 
          MR. CAMPBELL, DO I UNDERSTAND ROB THAT WHAT YOU PRESENTED TONIGHT WOULD INCREASE THE BUDGET BY HIRING ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS? YES. 
          RICHARD, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO RYAN. 
          PARDON ME? WHY BELIEVE WE NEED ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS? NO, I DIDN'T ASK THAT. 
          ARE YOU GOOD? WE HAVE CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS. 
          WE HAVE CURRENT POSITIONS FUNDED, AND MOST OF THAT OCCURRED IN FEBRUARY, 2018 AT A MEETING THAT YOU WERE ABSENT AND ANOTHER COUNCIL PERSON WAS ABSENT. 
          THE VOTE, I THINK WAS FIVE TO ONE EIGHT. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT A CERTAIN SPECIFIC NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS. 
          THERE IS SOME QUESTION HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. 
          I DIDN'T HAVE ANY TIME TO RESEARCH THIS ISSUE REALLY UNTIL TODAY. 
          SO I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING AND I'M REALLY UNCLEAR WHAT THE NUMBER SHOULD BE, AND I'M NOT CONFIDENT IT'S 41. 
          AND THE NUMBER THAT'S CURRENT ROB, AM I CORRECT? THAT IT'S 39. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AS A RESULT OF THAT DISCUSSION UP TO TODAY. 
          YES. 
          AND IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU SUBMITTED AT NIGHT, BASED ON LAST WEEK'S DISCUSSION, IT WOULD IMPACT THE BUDGET WITH TWO ADDITIONAL SALARIES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND I THINK I NEED TO HAVE MORE RESEARCH AND MORE DIALOGUE BEFORE I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          AND THERE'S NOT A STRONGER ADVOCATE WITH THE FIRE DIVISION THAN I AM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2018 VIDEO, I THINK IT'S, UH, TONY CORRECT ME. 
          IS IT FEBRUARY 18TH, FEBRUARY 12TH, 2018. 
          RICHARD, IF YOU WOULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT, UH, 11 MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          11 MINUTES, 57 SECONDS. 
          UH, SETH MORGAN, UH, ASKED THE CITY MANAGER FOR CLARITY AND, AND YOU'LL GET A LOT OF ANSWERS FROM THAT VIDEO THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THREE MORE YEARS AND TALK ABOUT STAFFING LEVELS. 
          BUT AS IT IS TONIGHT, I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT 41 IS THE CORRECT NUMBER, AND THERE'S NOT A BIGGER PROPONENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY THAN I AM. 
          SO I WANT US FULLY STAFF, BUT DURING THAT DISCUSSION IN FEBRUARY OF 2018, ROB WAS ANSWERING SETH MORGAN COUNCILMAN MORGAN'S QUESTIONS AND THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION, UH, FIRE CHIEF MARK ASHWORTH WAS AT THE PODIUM IN AGREED TO EVERYTHING. 
          AND IT WAS MARK ASHWORTH WHO BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF HIRING MORE FIREFIGHTERS. 
          AND HE WANTED THREE FIREFIGHTERS. 
          THE ISSUE WAS WE HAD 38 ON THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, RICHARD, BUT WE HAD ONLY 
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FUNDED 36. 
          AND WHEN SETH ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION OF HOW MANY ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS WE WOULD HIRE, ROB SAID, I WANT TO MAKE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR. 
          ONE MORE FOR A TOTAL OF 39, BECAUSE TWO OF THE POSITIONS WERE FUNDED. 
          SO IT WAS 36 PLUS THREE, WHICH WOULD BE 39. 
          IF YOU WENT WITH THE STAFFING LEVEL OF 38, TWO OF WHICH WEREN'T FUNDED 38 AND THREE IS 41. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DENIED. 
          AND I'M NOT OPPOSING ANYONE, AND I'M NOT ARGUING WITH ANYONE BUT HONEST ENGINE AFTER LOOKING AT THE VIDEO TODAY, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CERTAIN 41 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO TOO. 
          AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS TODAY, BUT, UM, IN YOUR OPINION, WHERE DID THE NUMBERS FALL APART AND HOW WERE THEY CONFUSED? OKAY. 
          IF, IF I WERE TO LOOK AT THE 2017, UH, STAFFING FOR FIREWALL FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS, IT SAYS 38. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED FEBRUARY 12TH, 2018, WE PASSED 39, A TOTAL OF 39. 
          AND IN THE LEGISLATION, I THINK THE SECOND PARAGRAPH MIGHT SPEAK TO, WE WANT TO ADD THREE FIREFIGHTERS. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND WE WANT TO ADD THREE FIREFIGHTERS BASED ON THE FEBRUARY 12TH, 2018 LEGISLATION ADDED TO THE STAFFING LEVEL IN 2017 OF 38, THE NUMBER SHOULD HAVE BEEN 41, BUT IT'S 39. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU THINK THE NUMBER SHOULD BE 41. 
          IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO, ROBERT EXPLAINS IT BECAUSE HE'S BEING ASKED QUESTIONS BY COUNCILMAN MORGAN, WHILE THAT CHIEF WHO BROUGHT UP THE REQUEST ORIGINALLY FOR THREE DIGITAL FIREFIGHTERS STOOD THERE AND ROB EXPLAINED, NO, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO ADD ONE MORE BECAUSE THERE'S TWO THAT AREN'T HIRED IN ARE, UH, PAID FOR IN THE, IN THE CURRENT BUDGET. 
          I, SO IF YOU GO BY THAT, IT'S 36 AND THREE. 
          SO IT'S THREE, BUT D ADD THREE TO 36, OR DO YOU HAVE THREE TO 38? THAT'S THE QUESTION. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER IN MY HEART WHAT THAT IS. 
          I DO REMEMBER A CONVERSATION TAKING PLACE, UM, IN ADDITION TO A CONVERSATION WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR ON THE FUNDING ASPECT OF THOSE FIREFIGHTERS, UM, I GUESS TWO, THAT, THAT, THAT MARK AND, UM, WHATEVER RESEARCH THE CITY MANAGER WILL BRING IT, THE NEXT WORK SESSION, I WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT, UH, THAT COMMUNICATION. 
          SO DO YOU AGREE WITH ME TONIGHT FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND NOT OKAY. 
          WHERE WE'RE AT UNTIL WE CHANGE IT. 
          THE MAYOR ASKED IF EVERYBODY WAS OKAY, PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA AND VOTE BEFORE MONDAY. 
          I'M NOT FOR THAT. 
          I'M NOT FOR HAVING THAT ON THE AGENDA MONDAY AND VOTING FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S PREMATURE. 
          CAUSE I THINK THERE'S MORE RESEARCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THOUGH. 
          AND NOT THE ANSWER HERE TONIGHT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION IS ONE. 
          DO WE NEED ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS? AMEN. 
          IS THERE AN IMPACT TO OUR CURRENT SERVICE TIMES RIGHT NOW IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE DIRECTION OF THE FIRE CHIEF THAT IS OVERSEEN BY THE CITY MANAGER? AMEN. 
          I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION. 
          QUESTION TWO IS WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS PERIOD? THAT'S IT. 
          AND QUESTION THREE IS WHERE DO WE STAND FINANCIALLY IN ORDER TO, AGAIN, FUNDING THOSE POSITIONS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT NEED. 
          UM, AND I, IN MY OPINION, THOSE ARE THE THREE QUESTIONS I'D BE LOOKING FOR AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          ROB, ARE THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU COULD FIND OUT FOR US? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS FOR THE DISCUSSION. 
          SO, UH, TONY, UH, THAT PIECE WON'T BE ADDED, UH, TO MONDAY'S AGENDA, JUST THE ACTUAL BUDGET ORDINANCE. 
          I GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, SO LET'S, UH, TAKE THE TIME TO GET A JOURN HERE FOR THE, FOR THE MEETING ITSELF. 
          AND, UM, I KNOW WE'VE, UH, WE DO NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO, UH, ROB, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, LISTEN TO THE PROCESS SO WE CAN, UH, WE CAN, UH, TAKE, TAKE THE VOTE AND, UH, AND ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          ALL RIGHT, I'LL GET IT GOING HERE. 
          UH, MR. MAYOR, DID I, DID I MISS WHAT THE NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION A VOTE? YES, WE HAVEN'T TALKED. 
          ROB WAS GETTING READY TO READ WHAT THAT PURPOSE IS. 
          OH, I SEEN ROB GO OFF CAMERA. 
          SO I THOUGHT HE WAS LEAVING SOMEWHERE. 
          NOPE, NOPE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK HE'S, HE'S, HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING FOR, FOR THE, UH, THE LANGUAGE. 
          CAUSE WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          SO HE'S HE'S 
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MY ASSUMPTION WAS HE'S WAS GETTING THAT AND UM, UH, HE'LL READ THE PURPOSE AND THEN WE'LL THEN WE'LL TAKE THE BOOK, ROB. 
          YOU ARE STILL HERE, RIGHT? MAYBE YOU MIGHT BE OUT OF THE CHAMBERS TO GET THE SHADE FOR THE EXECUTIVE STAFF. 
          YES THAT'S YEAH, THAT COULD BE YES. 
          YES. 
          WELL, YEAH. 
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WELL WE SAID AT LEAST, AT LEAST YOUR SMILE AND WITH ALL THE REST. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US THE PURPOSE FOR THE MOTION AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT WHILE YOU'RE GETTING US BACK INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND YES, ROB, I HAVE SCREEN CAPTURED THE SMILE. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. HILL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, A MOTION TO ADOPT OUR MOTION TO YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MOTION TO GO DIRECT EXECUTIVE FASTER FOR THAT PURPOSE AS STATED BY MR. SHAW. 
          YES. 
          AND MR. WEBB, IS THERE A SECOND OR A SECOND MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THAT PURPOSE? THE MOTION AND A SECOND, MR. ROGERS, PLEASE CALL THEM UP. 
          MS. BAKER. 
          YES. 
          MR. CAMPBELL. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS BERN. 
          YES. 
          IT'S TORONTO. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S TURTLE. 
          I AM. 
          YES. 
          MR. HILL. 
          YES. 
          MR. WEBB. 
          YES. 
          MR. SHAW. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          A MOTION HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION AND, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL ADJOURN THIS TIME FOR REAL, TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE WILL COME BACK AND INFORM THE PUBLIC. 
          IF ANY DECISIONS WERE MADE. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          YOU HAVE AUDIO AS WELL. 
          SO WE HAVE ADJOURNED. 
          IT IS NINE 48. 
          WE ADJOURNED, OR WE'VE NOT A GERMAN. 
          WE'VE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AT NINE 48 AND THERE WERE NO SPECIFIC DECISIONS MADE. 
          SO AS OF NOW, NINE 48, THIS NOVEMBER 19TH, 2020 REMOTE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION IS A JOURNEY. 
          HAVE A GREAT EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          AND WE'LL SEE YOU SOON. 
          GOODNIGHT, EVERYBODY. 
          THANKS.
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